Running Marco off screens

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Re: Running Marco off screens
« Reply #20 on: February 02, 2013, 10:15:55 PM »
Someone give me a rundown on how Marco did.. I hate this wasn't a espn3 game and I can't watch the replay. I've been saying I think our best lineup would be with Marco at the 3 and obekpa and Jakarr up front, did c jones get any burn?

Marco had 12 points and was tied for 2nd leading scorer with Phil Greene.  Harrison was awful.  Georgetown is not the team for him to play against.  Bourgault was 2-6 from 3, but all of them were on the rim and a few more almost rimmed in.  He played a solid game, using his outside shooting ability to draw defender, and either shoot or fake, step and nail 2's.  Not going to say he's the next coming, but he was solid today and was actually a threat out there to do more than just stand and wait for a ball.
This kid should have been playing... I like lavin but sometimes I wonder

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Re: Running Marco off screens
« Reply #21 on: February 02, 2013, 10:20:34 PM »
I'm watching the Michigan and Indiana game and this is beautiful to watch , each coach has a great variety of players who all do different things and mesh well. And not all of them are espn 100 kids either just guys who fit well and are also talented. Our games look nothing like these games the ball dosent move as well and offensive continuity is light years superior to ours. I just hope the future recruiting classes are gonna have us looking like a actual good team in the next couple years

Re: Running Marco off screens
« Reply #22 on: February 02, 2013, 10:22:10 PM »
Like I said chille, we have zero role players. Just athletes with minimal hoops IQ

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« Reply #23 on: February 02, 2013, 10:22:57 PM »
Like I said chille, we have zero role players. Just athletes with minimal hoops IQ

I beg to differ.  We have plenty of role players.  Being asked to do too much or being asked to do nothing at all.
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Re: Running Marco off screens
« Reply #24 on: February 02, 2013, 10:23:22 PM »
I'm watching the Michigan and Indiana game and this is beautiful to watch , each coach has a great variety of players who all do different things and mesh well. And not all of them are espn 100 kids either just guys who fit well and are also talented. Our games look nothing like these games the ball dosent move as well and offensive continuity is light years superior to ours. I just hope the future recruiting classes are gonna have us looking like a actual good team in the next couple years

I still think it will take a bit longer to look the way we want to on the court.  I don't think we'll look like Michigan nor Indiana though.  I think we're going more for a look like UK under Pitino.  Our offensive continuity will come when we have a few better passers though. 

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« Reply #25 on: February 02, 2013, 10:24:02 PM »
Like I said chille, we have zero role players. Just athletes with minimal hoops IQ
Marco fits the bill but he dosent play so does Christian jones and Felix some what , but coach is in love with Dom and Phil.

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« Reply #26 on: February 02, 2013, 10:25:22 PM »
Like I said chille, we have zero role players. Just athletes with minimal hoops IQ
Marco fits the bill but he dosent play so does Christian jones and Felix some what , but coach is in love with Dom and Phil.

Add Harrison to that list. What did he do today, besides pushing the Georgetown player into Branch, thus the injury

Re: Running Marco off screens
« Reply #27 on: February 02, 2013, 10:31:18 PM »
His shot is not slow like all the haters were claiming. And he doesn't need a million screens. They were looking for him and he got some run. That simple. Now I don't expect him to do that every game. But given 15 minutes a game, some games he will help. That is all I was asking for. He can shoot and most on this team can't! 


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Re: Running Marco off screens
« Reply #28 on: February 02, 2013, 10:48:18 PM »
Like I said chille, we have zero role players. Just athletes with minimal hoops IQ
Marco fits the bill but he dosent play so does Christian jones and Felix some what , but coach is in love with Dom and Phil.


Dom deservedly so.  Phil is also a guard and none of our role players can do what he does just yet.  Let's be serious fellas.  A lot of criticism coming out now. But how many minutes thus far has Bourgault shown he was good for?  15?  That's almost half game and he has looked lost thus far.  I, not saying he might not deserve more minutes, but there were a few games he played a bit and never showed what he did tonight.  Very easy to armchair quarterback.

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« Reply #29 on: February 02, 2013, 10:56:30 PM »
Actually Phil is finally recognizing Marco but he seems to only hit him on the left.  Needs to see him when he sets up on right.  Even more effective would be the kick out fron Jakarr and Sir from a pass into the them on the foul line but Jakarr hasn't met a shot from there that he will not take.  A few kick outs will open the middle plus a kick out with him at the FT line sets him up for a rebound on a miss.

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« Reply #30 on: February 02, 2013, 11:09:01 PM »
Marco at 10mpg should average 6ppg. That would be huge.
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Re: Running Marco off screens
« Reply #31 on: February 03, 2013, 12:53:30 AM »
I'm watching the Michigan and Indiana game and this is beautiful to watch , each coach has a great variety of players who all do different things and mesh well. And not all of them are espn 100 kids either just guys who fit well and are also talented. Our games look nothing like these games the ball dosent move as well and offensive continuity is light years superior to ours. I just hope the future recruiting classes are gonna have us looking like a actual good team in the next couple years

Chilleb, you've got a point about our half court offense looking ugly.   It hasn't been crisp or efficient all year.

But, also keep in mind you're watching the Big 10.   I watch their games and see guys drive into the lane and no one touches them, let alone hacks them.   In that league guys set a screen and the defender goes 3 feet wide around it.  Those things don't happen in this conference.   Good, bad, or otherwise  east coast basketball has always looked uglier than Hoosiers style ball in the Midwest. 

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« Reply #32 on: February 03, 2013, 12:55:39 AM »
Marco at 10mpg should average 6ppg. That would be huge.
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I think that's what a lot of us expected coming into the season.   Don't know if it took him awhile to get comfortable before he became aggressive, or if the staff needed to gain in trust in him.   
But there was definitely a feeling out process.   Maybe now he can play with a little confidence. 

Re: Running Marco off screens
« Reply #33 on: February 03, 2013, 01:32:12 PM »
Honestly...Marco is our zone buster.  Want to zone us? Sub him in and now you have two shooters on opposing sides with the occasional baseline run to overload one side of the zone.  Even if he doesn't take a shot, a few games of him busting some zones will force teams' hand and help open up the floor to drive to the basket but also open up rebounding lanes.  Funny how teams pack it in because we can't shoot and we get out rebounded :/

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« Reply #34 on: February 03, 2013, 02:01:36 PM »
I'm watching the Michigan and Indiana game and this is beautiful to watch , each coach has a great variety of players who all do different things and mesh well. And not all of them are espn 100 kids either just guys who fit well and are also talented. Our games look nothing like these games the ball dosent move as well and offensive continuity is light years superior to ours. I just hope the future recruiting classes are gonna have us looking like a actual good team in the next couple years

+ 1,000,000   I said the same thing, almost verbatim, to my son last night, including the word beautiful. And it has less to do with the quality of the players than it does with offensive philosophy.

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Re: Running Marco off screens
« Reply #35 on: February 03, 2013, 02:18:05 PM »
I'm watching the Michigan and Indiana game and this is beautiful to watch , each coach has a great variety of players who all do different things and mesh well. And not all of them are espn 100 kids either just guys who fit well and are also talented. Our games look nothing like these games the ball dosent move as well and offensive continuity is light years superior to ours. I just hope the future recruiting classes are gonna have us looking like a actual good team in the next couple years

Chilleb, you've got a point about our half court offense looking ugly.   It hasn't been crisp or efficient all year.

But, also keep in mind you're watching the Big 10.   I watch their games and see guys drive into the lane and no one touches them, let alone hacks them.   In that league guys set a screen and the defender goes 3 feet wide around it.  Those things don't happen in this conference.   Good, bad, or otherwise  east coast basketball has always looked uglier than Hoosiers style ball in the Midwest.

Respectuflly disagree. This is the Big 10, not the Pac 12. Both teams last night were in each others chili from the opening tap. Wisconsin, Purdue, Michigan State...you're telling me those teams dont play physical basketball? No way.

IMHO the difference in the look of the games is offensive philosophy- moving the ball primarily with the pass vs. moving the ball primarily with the dribble. Not only do we move the ball primarily with the dribble, we dont even really have an offense. Tough to be crisp when you're making it up on the fly. LOL