Really Really down on Lavin

In all aspects of the program right now, Lavin is not performing well. From a discipline standpoint and a coaching standpoint, this team has a lot of issues. Bad enough our play on the court was embarassing, but throw in a fight, and it's just total chaos.

I didn't expect NCAA bid this year, figured an NIT bid would be ok as long as the team showed improvement and finished strong. The finish to this season has been a disaster. Lavin's recruiting flaws are showing and his coaching flaws are also glaring. Can he recruit? Yes. But it's inexcusable to not have more perimeter scoring. His in game adjustments? As Digger said tonight, non-existent. You can blame young, you can blame whatever you want, but the team on the floor tonight was a reflection of the coach. And the incident is a reflection of the type of program that is developing.

Lavin has to get it together. The cracks are beginning to show.

In all aspects of the program right now, Lavin is not performing well. From a discipline standpoint and a coaching standpoint, this team has a lot of issues. Bad enough our play on the court was embarassing, but throw in a fight, and it's just total chaos.

I didn't expect NCAA bid this year, figured an NIT bid would be ok as long as the team showed improvement and finished strong. The finish to this season has been a disaster. Lavin's recruiting flaws are showing and his coaching flaws are also glaring. Can he recruit? Yes. But it's inexcusable to not have more perimeter scoring. His in game adjustments? As Digger said tonight, non-existent. You can blame young, you can blame whatever you want, but the team on the floor tonight was a reflection of the coach. And the incident is a reflection of the type of program that is developing.

Lavin has to get it together. The cracks are beginning to show.

Great post!

In all aspects of the program right now, Lavin is not performing well. From a discipline standpoint and a coaching standpoint, this team has a lot of issues. Bad enough our play on the court was embarassing, but throw in a fight, and it's just total chaos.

I didn't expect NCAA bid this year, figured an NIT bid would be ok as long as the team showed improvement and finished strong. The finish to this season has been a disaster. Lavin's recruiting flaws are showing and his coaching flaws are also glaring. Can he recruit? Yes. But it's inexcusable to not have more perimeter scoring. His in game adjustments? As Digger said tonight, non-existent. You can blame young, you can blame whatever you want, but the team on the floor tonight was a reflection of the coach. And the incident is a reflection of the type of program that is developing.

Lavin has to get it together. The cracks are beginning to show.

He's looking a lot like Brian Mahoney right now.

 Should probably just fire him and start over..

 Who should be the next coach?

 Should I start a separate thread?

 How about Bob McKillop?   Seth Greenberg?  Doherty still interested?     

Mark Jackson

......oh wait he hates STJ

Dunlap will probably be available

Dunlap will probably be available

+1

No looking to fire him, but holding him accountable for putting a competitive team together next year. He may not be the best  X and O guy, but what concerns me more is our poor roster makeup and absence of a functional offense. Is that too harsh Boo?

Should probably just fire him and start over..

 Who should be the next coach?

 Should I start a separate thread?

 How about Bob McKillop?   Seth Greenberg?  Doherty still interested?     

Who's the guy at Stony Brook? He's built something from absolutely nothing.

No looking to fire him, but holding him accountable for putting a competitive team together next year. He may not be an X and O guy, but what concerns me more is our poor roster makeup and absence of a functional offense. Is that too harsh Boo?

I don't understand how a coach isn't an Xs and O's guy. If he isn't an Xs and O's guy, he's a GM. Lavin looks more and more like a guy who was born into a basketball family more than a great motivator, teacher and coach.

No looking to fire him, but holding him accountable for putting a competitive team together next year. He may not be the best  X and O guy, but what concerns me more is our poor roster makeup and absence of a functional offense. Is that too harsh Boo?

I actually don't recall seeing the 'weave' tonight?  Did we finally kill that dog off?  that's improvement, isn't it?

Should probably just fire him and start over..

 Who should be the next coach?

 Should I start a separate thread?

 How about Bob McKillop?   Seth Greenberg?  Doherty still interested?     

Again who is saying he should be fired? Deserves some heat though, no? Team in shambles. Why can't people question coaching w/o people getting bent out of shape? If you are not going to question him now, you might as well help MCNPA put a Golden Halo on his head.

Quote from: paultzman on March 05, 2013, 09:51:40 PM

No looking to fire him, but holding him accountable for putting a competitive team together next year. He may not be the best  X and O guy, but what concerns me more is our poor roster makeup and absence of a functional offense. Is that too harsh Boo?

I actually don't recall seeing the 'weave' tonight?  Did we finally kill that dog off?  that's improvement, isn't it?

Based on tonights score maybe we should have run the weave.

Quote from: boo3 on March 05, 2013, 09:47:39 PM

Should probably just fire him and start over..

 Who should be the next coach?

 Should I start a separate thread?

 How about Bob McKillop?   Seth Greenberg?  Doherty still interested?     

Again who is saying he should be fired? Deserves some heat though, no? Team in shambles. Why can't people question coaching w/o people getting bent out of shape? If you are not going to question him now, you might as well help MCNPA put a Golden Halo on his head.

I love the fact that you made a post about Lavin apologists and I wasn't part of it since I jumped ship

Quote from: boo3 on March 05, 2013, 09:47:39 PM

Should probably just fire him and start over..

 Who should be the next coach?

 Should I start a separate thread?

 How about Bob McKillop?   Seth Greenberg?  Doherty still interested?     

Who's the guy at Stony Brook? He's built something from absolutely nothing.

please make it stop. We always complained when Calgoon or Smiling jim got a player back from suspension for taking a stereo, or breaking in or assault after 1 game. Lavs made a decision based on D'Lo's future in basketball and in life i think. I don't like the end results as much as you guys but at least he is doing what he deems the right thing. Ill ride this out with coach, yeah tonight made me want to throw something through my TV but we all know we cant shoot. Once we get behind its a done deal for the most part.

Quote from: we are sju on March 05, 2013, 09:55:02 PM

Quote from: boo3 on March 05, 2013, 09:47:39 PM

Should probably just fire him and start over..

 Who should be the next coach?

 Should I start a separate thread?

 How about Bob McKillop?   Seth Greenberg?  Doherty still interested?     

Again who is saying he should be fired? Deserves some heat though, no? Team in shambles. Why can't people question coaching w/o people getting bent out of shape? If you are not going to question him now, you might as well help MCNPA put a Golden Halo on his head.

I love the fact that you made a post about Lavin apologists and I wasn't part of it since I jumped ship

bff's

Quote from: Poison on March 05, 2013, 09:51:46 PM

Quote from: boo3 on March 05, 2013, 09:47:39 PM

Should probably just fire him and start over..

 Who should be the next coach?

 Should I start a separate thread?

 How about Bob McKillop?   Seth Greenberg?  Doherty still interested?     

Who's the guy at Stony Brook? He's built something from absolutely nothing.

please make it stop. We always complained when Calgoon or Smiling jim got a player back from suspension for taking a stereo, or breaking in or assault after 1 game. Lavs made a decision based on D'Lo's future in basketball and in life i think. I don't like the end results as much as you guys but at least he is doing what he deems the right thing. Ill ride this out with coach, yeah tonight made me want to throw something through my TV but we all know we cant shoot. Once we get behind its a done deal for the most part.

Do you throw with your right hand?

Quote from: valgoth on March 05, 2013, 09:56:37 PM

Quote from: Poison on March 05, 2013, 09:51:46 PM

Quote from: boo3 on March 05, 2013, 09:47:39 PM

Should probably just fire him and start over..

 Who should be the next coach?

 Should I start a separate thread?

 How about Bob McKillop?   Seth Greenberg?  Doherty still interested?     

Who's the guy at Stony Brook? He's built something from absolutely nothing.

please make it stop. We always complained when Calgoon or Smiling jim got a player back from suspension for taking a stereo, or breaking in or assault after 1 game. Lavs made a decision based on D'Lo's future in basketball and in life i think. I don't like the end results as much as you guys but at least he is doing what he deems the right thing. Ill ride this out with coach, yeah tonight made me want to throw something through my TV but we all know we cant shoot. Once we get behind its a done deal for the most part.

Do you throw with your right hand?

lefty actually 

for those that want to hold him accountable, i suggest you tweet him directly @stjcoachlavin using hashtag #stjbb

he and the school read them and it's public.

No looking to fire him, but holding him accountable for putting a competitive team together next year. He may not be the best  X and O guy, but what concerns me more is our poor roster makeup and absence of a functional offense. Is that too harsh Boo?

  +1000..... sorry, just wanted to try that once.. it look so much fun.