Why does this staff deserve an extension?

I would like him to recruit need and not just the best available athlete. And I don't mean my team can't shoot so I am going to bring in a white guy I am not going to play. Recruit kids that can knockdown shots and have a chance of playing. What was the point of recruiting Dom and Amir two great athletes that can't make shots. We don't run, so we don't need 12 guys flying around. Both times Lavin has had success with us he played 8 guys and we are usually playing half court offense, yet we don't have any low post scorers and only one guy that can make a three.

I think the hope was Dom would develop into a good offensive player. Unfortunately it hasn't panned out.

Your buddy the Nova fan doesn't know what he is talking about.  Jay Wright would take D-Lo in his backcourt in a heartbeat.  Pretty sure he'd like Jordan and Sampson too.

My biggest concern with the staff has been the inability to make the guys better at playing team basketball... Everybody talks about our talent, and I for one think individually these guys are very talented. However what keeps these guys from taking the  next step is these guys have not learned to play within their strengths and try to do to much on own, which brings out all their flaws.   This I believe is on coaching as much as the players.

Lavin is an outstanding recruiter and if you think other wise, you probably just  don't understand enough about college basketball.  With that said my concern with his recruits are, if he insists on  just taking athletes, then make sure as a coach, you are good enough as a tactician or have someone who is, so that the weaknesses are hidden by drawing up the right plays and playing a rotation  that does not bring out all the deficiencies at once.    The staff can't hit free throws or hit jump shots but they can draw up enough good plays so at the very least, kids are put in the right position to give them the best opportunity to succeed and that I do not see enough.

Our team iq, low post game and three point shooting is awful, so this staff has to figure a way to better game plan, game in and game out next yr, because until these guys learn to  play 40 minutes of team basketball, we are looking at another season of the same.

Your buddy the Nova fan doesn't know what he is talking about.  Jay Wright would take D-Lo in his backcourt in a heartbeat.  Pretty sure he'd like Jordan and Sampson too.

Yup, Jay Wright would take D-Lo, Jordan and Sampson, kids he really didn't recruit for the kids he did recruit and land. Yup my buddy doesn't know what he is talking about.

I don't think Jay Wright recruited a lot of really good players in college hoops right now.  Doesn't mean he wouldn't take those guys on his team.

Hałil Kamacevic and Robal Roberts are exactly why  this staff is a failur. These guys know how to play ball

failure is such a strong word..  and incorrect.

Bs Baldi.    Lavin has real flaws, but Kanacevic was at Hofstra the year before he got hired.  He could've held on to Roberts, but who's to say he didn't try to?   

I blame coach for being invisible with 2014 recruits.  But you can always cherry pick guys that went under the radar and now look good.   

FTR-  it is tremendously lazy basketball analysis to blame everything on a coaching staff or a single coach..  I assume you guys actually watch the games?  Do you guys see the missed layups and foul shots?  Do you see the poor gambles and boneheaded defense?  Do you see the dumb fouls by our bigs?  Seems every game either Sanchez, CO, or Jordan had 2 fouls within the first 5 minutes of most games..

 Of course Lavin and staff have to take a hit.. Seriously though, some of the posts lately have done nothing but shown posters extreme lack of basketball knowledge... Any nice person can look at results that are subpar and say Fire Coach.... And we, unfortunately, have many that grace the pages of this blog.   

FTR-  it is tremendously lazy basketball analysis to blame everything on a coaching staff or a single coach..  I assume you guys actually watch the games?  Do you guys see the missed layups and foul shots?  Do you see the poor gambles and boneheaded defense?  Do you see the dumb fouls by our bigs?  Seems every game either Sanchez, CO, or Jordan had 2 fouls within the first 5 minutes of most games..

 Of course Lavin and staff have to take a hit.. Seriously though, some of the posts lately have done nothing but shown posters extreme lack of basketball knowledge... Any nice person can look at results that are subpar and say Fire Coach.... And we, unfortunately, have many that grace the pages of this blog.   

I just watched VCU/St. joes. Was a pleasure watching 2 well coached teams. They have more talent than St Johns?

 OK.. ( exhibit A)

Quote from: boo3 on March 16, 2014, 03:46:58 PM

FTR-  it is tremendously lazy basketball analysis to blame everything on a coaching staff or a single coach..  I assume you guys actually watch the games?  Do you guys see the missed layups and foul shots?  Do you see the poor gambles and boneheaded defense?  Do you see the dumb fouls by our bigs?  Seems every game either Sanchez, CO, or Jordan had 2 fouls within the first 5 minutes of most games..

 Of course Lavin and staff have to take a hit.. Seriously though, some of the posts lately have done nothing but shown posters extreme lack of basketball knowledge... Any nice person can look at results that are subpar and say Fire Coach.... And we, unfortunately, have many that grace the pages of this blog.   

I just watched VCU/St. joes. Was a pleasure watching 2 well coached teams. They have more talent than St Johns?

During our most painful time, it us always good to know you are there.

Quote from: Marco Baldi on March 16, 2014, 03:54:53 PM

Quote from: boo3 on March 16, 2014, 03:46:58 PM

FTR-  it is tremendously lazy basketball analysis to blame everything on a coaching staff or a single coach..  I assume you guys actually watch the games?  Do you guys see the missed layups and foul shots?  Do you see the poor gambles and boneheaded defense?  Do you see the dumb fouls by our bigs?  Seems every game either Sanchez, CO, or Jordan had 2 fouls within the first 5 minutes of most games..

 Of course Lavin and staff have to take a hit.. Seriously though, some of the posts lately have done nothing but shown posters extreme lack of basketball knowledge... Any nice person can look at results that are subpar and say Fire Coach.... And we, unfortunately, have many that grace the pages of this blog.   

I just watched VCU/St. joes. Was a pleasure watching 2 well coached teams. They have more talent than St Johns?

During our most painful time, it us always good to know you are there.

Quote from: Marco Baldi on March 16, 2014, 03:54:53 PM

Quote from: boo3 on March 16, 2014, 03:46:58 PM

FTR-  it is tremendously lazy basketball analysis to blame everything on a coaching staff or a single coach..  I assume you guys actually watch the games?  Do you guys see the missed layups and foul shots?  Do you see the poor gambles and boneheaded defense?  Do you see the dumb fouls by our bigs?  Seems every game either Sanchez, CO, or Jordan had 2 fouls within the first 5 minutes of most games..

 Of course Lavin and staff have to take a hit.. Seriously though, some of the posts lately have done nothing but shown posters extreme lack of basketball knowledge... Any nice person can look at results that are subpar and say Fire Coach.... And we, unfortunately, have many that grace the pages of this blog.   

I just watched VCU/St. joes. Was a pleasure watching 2 well coached teams. They have more talent than St Johns?

During our most painful time, it us always good to know you are there.

I'm not happy either.

I'm still trying to figure out what's worse. Norm not getting any talent and no NCAA. Or getting top talent, like Lavin does, and still no NCAA?

It's not an either or proposition.    Lavin and the staff truthfully didn't have the team prepared at times (in my opinion), and the players didn't hit their foul shots or commit to rebounding at times.

But that's the on court results.   If the conversation ended there, we wouldn't be debating if coach should return.   But there's everything else that evinces an attitude that rubs fans the wrong way..
- why did the staff take this recruiting season off?
- why didn't Lavin bring Dunlap back?
- why did Lavin go to the press about the contract extension?

It's not an either or proposition.    Lavin and the staff truthfully didn't have the team prepared at times (in my opinion), and the players didn't hit their foul shots or commit to rebounding at times.

But that's the on court results.   If the conversation ended there, we wouldn't be debating if coach should return.   But there's everything else that evinces an attitude that rubs fans the wrong way..
- why did the staff take this recruiting season off?
- why didn't Lavin bring Dunlap back?
- why did Lavin go to the press about the contract extension?

More truth.   Stop trolling!

Right or wrong, Desco, I think the Lavin is looking to fill gaps with role players this year.  He seems more focused in 2015.

Do we know that Dunlap had any interest in coming back?  We can speculate that Lavin didn't reach out to him, but we really don't know.

Who cares about the contract being discussed in the press.  If anything, it might have been a means to reassure recruits that he will be back.  I heard it mentioned that Briscoe's dad was concerned.

 Dunlap was making NBA head coach money sitting at home.. why would he comeback to be an assistant at a job he already left?   Would you? 

He took a year off and now has head coaching gig.

 Lavin broke the extension news?   Missed that one.

 

What makes anyone think Dunlap would want to work as an assistant at St. John's while he is making millions just relaxing and sitting home.

 There is a difference between truth and speculation..... big difference. 

University confirmed they were in talks with Lavin...  http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/eye-on-college-basketball/24472959/st-johns-confirms-extension-talks-for-head-coach-steve-lavin

 Seriously,  no sense in even debating this stuff, since most have their own warped reality on what is going on...  good lord..