Bracketology thread

I meant to say say that hopefully Dom and CO learn to avoid foul trouble during the early part of the BE season...

Quote from: desco80 on January 15, 2015, 10:16:37 PM

And fwiw, our opponents in close games always have their best players available.
Harrison dom and obekpa all average 3.3 or more fouls per game.
gibbs, henton, smith-rivera, Dunham, hilliard, etc are all 1.4, 1.9, 2 fouls per game at most.

Again, I don't fault the players entirely but look at our patterns:
We get out rebounded
our best players are always in foul trouble
we have limited depth
And on most nights we dont shoot well from outside

How does this equal an NCAA team? 
Sure, we're gritty and play good D, and we score just enough to beat some teams.
But against top 25-caliber teams, we're going to lose.   And that's disappointing.   We should be able to beat good teams by this point.   We have talent and experience.
But the lack of coaching and the roster makeup are going to continue to hold us back.   We're ecstatic today because we got meaningful minutes from Amar.  And I agree, he showed promise, but top 25 teams, sweet16-type teams, have benches that contribute!  And we're rejoicing because our 7th man didn't dribble the ball of his foot.   Our fanbase is so starved for success that they have 1) lowered their expectations to applaud mediocrity and 2) can't tell the difference between a mirage and what a good basketball team looks like anymore.

Not every NCAA team is in the top 25. Right now we have beaten some potential top 25 teams to include Providence. The win gets the team in the right track and avoids the pitfalls of last year up until Sunday, where if we lose we are right back where we started from.

The Nova game  became a 5 on 3 when CO was hurt and had foul trouble, SirDom fouled out and Jordan forgot that there was a game going on.
The start 5 especially CO and Dom are going to have to be careful with their fouls for the rest of the year...They were able to get away with it during non conference but hopefully they are learning to adjust during he early part of the season.

Hopefully Amir was not a fluke in this game and he can actually contribute a body, defense, and a few buckets. This will help CO and Dom stay out of trouble.
There is a lot of hope in this but the potential is there and you know Harrison is willing this team to the tournament. What needs to stop is the college soap opera and everyone having the same mindset...Whicj should not be an issue anymore.

Amen, Brother.

http://collegebasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/01/16/turnover-three-new-teams-join-kentucky-atop-the-bracket/

CBT has us as a 7 seed.

http://collegebasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/01/16/turnover-three-new-teams-join-kentucky-atop-the-bracket/

CBT has us as a 7 seed.

I like that road to the sweet 16. Ok st and Louisville are beatable

All of our losses are to top 20 RPI squads, with the Hall being the lowest at 19.

SJU currently at 23

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/rpi/_/sort/RPI

All of our losses are to top 20 RPI squads, with the Hall being the lowest at 19.

SJU currently at 23

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/rpi/_/sort/RPI

What about the wins?

Quote from: Ron Artesticles on January 16, 2015, 02:56:34 PM

All of our losses are to top 20 RPI squads, with the Hall being the lowest at 19.

SJU currently at 23

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/rpi/_/sort/RPI

What about the wins?

Good call Baldi. Not so many quality wins.

Wins against #72 - St Mary's and #43 Syracuse.

Quote from: Marco Baldi on January 16, 2015, 03:01:21 PM

Quote from: Ron Artesticles on January 16, 2015, 02:56:34 PM

All of our losses are to top 20 RPI squads, with the Hall being the lowest at 19.

SJU currently at 23

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/rpi/_/sort/RPI

What about the wins?

Good call Baldi. Not so many quality wins.

Wins against #72 - St Mary's and #43 Syracuse.

Best win is actually Providence at #21.

Not many quality wins but we only played 4 conference games. Plenty of chances coming for some good wins .

Quote from: Ron Artesticles on January 16, 2015, 03:13:03 PM

Quote from: Marco Baldi on January 16, 2015, 03:01:21 PM

Quote from: Ron Artesticles on January 16, 2015, 02:56:34 PM

All of our losses are to top 20 RPI squads, with the Hall being the lowest at 19.

SJU currently at 23

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/rpi/_/sort/RPI

What about the wins?

Good call Baldi. Not so many quality wins.

Wins against #72 - St Mary's and #43 Syracuse.

Best win is actually Providence at #21.

Nice to have two top-50 road wins on the resume.  Kinda gets that part of it out of the way.  Now we just need to win our home BE games, and the road games against marq, creigh and depaul.  FWIW as of right now kenpom has us as a 1 pt favorite in the Duke game winning 53% of the time.  Game by game projections have us winning 11 more games, but the overall projected record (which accounts for the randomness of actually playing a game) is expecting two additional losses and has us finishing 21-10.

Quote from: Marco Baldi on January 16, 2015, 03:01:21 PM

Quote from: Ron Artesticles on January 16, 2015, 02:56:34 PM

All of our losses are to top 20 RPI squads, with the Hall being the lowest at 19.

SJU currently at 23

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/rpi/_/sort/RPI

What about the wins?

Good call Baldi. Not so many quality wins.

Wins against #72 - St Mary's and #43 Syracuse.

I don't see Syracuse being a good win

The worst loss we have is Butler right now, would that be considered a bad loss? The key difference this year is that we don't have really bad losses early which makes us ahead of the game compared to every other year under Lavin. The good news is that we don't have to dig out of a bad loss whole like years past...This is all dependent on how we do in the BE. Finishing 3rd or 4th this year as of right now would get us in, compared to last year where Providence had to win the whole damn thing to squeak in.

Syracuse Is 4-0 in acc and 13-4 overall. That's a great win.

Quote from: Ron Artesticles on January 16, 2015, 03:13:03 PM

Quote from: Marco Baldi on January 16, 2015, 03:01:21 PM

Quote from: Ron Artesticles on January 16, 2015, 02:56:34 PM

All of our losses are to top 20 RPI squads, with the Hall being the lowest at 19.

SJU currently at 23

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/rpi/_/sort/RPI

What about the wins?

Good call Baldi. Not so many quality wins.

Wins against #72 - St Mary's and #43 Syracuse.

I don't see Syracuse being a good win

top 50 RPI, kenpom, BPI.  Receiving votes in the poll.  Not sure what metric you use, but that about covers it all.  Add in that it was @Syracuse and it is a very good win.

Syracuse Is 4-0 in acc and 13-4 overall. That's a great win.

But 0-2 vs. the BE.  Proof that the BE is better

Syracuse Is 4-0 in acc and 13-4 overall. That's a great win.

They beat Georgia Tech, Florida St, Virginia tech and wake Forrest.

Wasn't DePaul 3-0 in the Big East at some point?

Minnesota is 0-5 and in last place in the Big 10 by the way

To say beating Cuse on the road is not a good win, is silly.  What could be said, is that we beat a Cuse team on the road that is not as good as years past.  We also do not have one bad loss so far this season.  As of today, all of our loses are to teams that are predicted to be in the tournament.  Not to mention, we are 4-4 vs top 100 and have the opportunity to pick up wins against the teams we lost too in the conference.  It is one of the true benefits of being in the new big east.  Balanced schedules can give you an edge against similar teams fighting to get into tourny outside of the BE.

Yes but they are still Syracuse . Going to win a bunch of games at home and be decent on the road. Play 2 games below .500 rest of the way they make tournament easy . They could easily play better then that .

Yes but they are still Syracuse . Going to win a bunch of games at home and be decent on the road. Play 2 games below .500 rest of the way they make tournament easy . They could easily play better then that .

And Providence is still Providence. And that's the best win so far this season