What will it take to dance?

I think at minimum St. John's needs to go 2-2 in final four games. I think 3-1 to be extremely safe. However in both those scenarios I think it is essential to beat Xavier. This will solidify St. John's finishing top 5 in the conference.

Would be great to sweep Xavier, Marquette and split with Nova or Georgetown.

2-2 should get STJ in as long as one of the losses ISNT MQ.

If they beat Nova and another team at this point, that should punch it in if Nova does not stumble at any point forward. Winning a game in the BET gets us far away from the play in game.

3-1. Or 2-2 w a win in the BE tourney.

3 more wins before selection sunday to be somewhat comfortable. 4 more to be in for sure. Only 2 more and today wouldn't have been the last time these guys play in CA

Go 9-9 and lose 1st BET, we are either last 4 in or first 4 out. (20-12)   
Win 3 and we are around a 10/11 seed. (21-11) 
Win more than 3 games 8/9 game. 

3 wins, anyway.

Yeah I think 3 more wins does it regardless of who.

Yeah I think 3 more wins does it regardless of who.

I haven't done all the scenarios but if somehow they win 3 and finish in 6th I think they'll be on the bubble. I thought Lavin was smart in post game confidently saying Big East will get 6. Start that train now.

IMO. Absolutely need to beat Xavier and Marquette, and split the Nova/Grown. We need help too. That D2 win is biting us in the arse, useless game

I disagree with you there Baldi.  If we beat Xavier, Gtown and Marquette we are definitely in because of the # of top 50 wins, combined with the SOL, a few top 25 RPI wins, and even more wins when you consider the top 100. 

The SOL is very good even with the D-2 win.

If we had a good RPI but no wins in the top 50 and only a few (or none) in the top 100 we'd be in trouble.  But we didn't have the above last year when I think we were probably a Big East tourney win over Providence from getting in (though some speculate we needed 2).

2-2 may need a win in the BE tournament to get over the hump

I've been on the same number since conference play started: 21. I think 21 wins is basically a lock. 20 wins and around 50/50.  19 and out.

It would be interesting if we beat xavier and finish with 19 or 20 wins. It would seem hard to keep out sju but let in providence and xavier as the last two big east teams. While the whole body of work matters, those 4 games are certainly a big part of the body of work.

Quote from: Tha Kid on February 21, 2015, 03:37:30 PM

Yeah I think 3 more wins does it regardless of who.

I haven't done all the scenarios but if somehow they win 3 and finish in 6th I think they'll be on the bubble. I thought Lavin was smart in post game confidently saying Big East will get 6. Start that train now.

You are probably right - I guess my thinking is if we go 2-2 and finish 6th but then win our first round game against the 3 seed, that would hopefully be enough.  But 3 more plus top 5 is definitely a better scenario.

21 wins any which way

I think at minimum St. John's needs to go 2-2 in final four games. I think 3-1 to be extremely safe. However in both those scenarios I think it is essential to beat Xavier. This will solidify St. John's finishing top 5 in the conference.

Would be great to sweep Xavier, Marquette and split with Nova or Georgetown.

IMO, if they finish 2-2, they'll need at least 1 or 2 wins in the BET

keep winning

At least 5 games left. 3 are at the garden. 1 is vs a bottom team in the big east . No excuses. It starts Monday . 8:00 sucks, Still get ur asses to the garden

At least 5 games left. 3 are at the garden. 1 is vs a bottom team in the big east . No excuses. It starts Monday . 8:00 sucks, Still get ur asses to the garden

Marquette is a bottom team, but winning there is not going to be easy.  Carlino was a real pain in the ass for us last game (until Lavin finally put Sir'Dom on him).

IMO. Absolutely need to beat Xavier and Marquette, and split the Nova/Grown. We need help too. That D2 win is biting us in the arse, useless game

Need help?  Please!  #37 RPI rating and #31 SOS.  The Johnnies control their own destiny. 

2-2 and a win in the Big East tournament will put the Johnnies in.  3-1, and we'll be in prior to the start of the Big East tournament.

 

2-2 would mean we need to win one in the BE tourney. We can earn an at large IMO if we finish 3-1. I don't expect us to beat Nova, but it's not out of the question if Lavin can get something out of our bench. The guys need a breather. Today it was enough. Xavier and GTown will be ready. Those are tough teams, and we're gonna need guys like Alibegovic, Delarosa and Balamou to contribute.

Quote from: Marco Baldi on February 21, 2015, 03:48:37 PM

IMO. Absolutely need to beat Xavier and Marquette, and split the Nova/Grown. We need help too. That D2 win is biting us in the arse, useless game

Need help?  Please!  #37 RPI rating and #31 SOS.  The Johnnies control their own destiny. 

2-2 and a win in the Big East tournament will put the Johnnies in.  3-1, and we'll be in prior to the start of the Big East tournament.

 

Yeah we need 3 more wins total, which I think is what pretty much everyone has been saying. Problem is I do not see us beating Nova or Gtown. So that means we HAVE to beat Xavier which will be a tough game again than take care of business vs Marquette. That would make our 1st BET game a play in. So basically a lot of work to do.