Greetings from San Diego

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Re: Greetings from San Diego
« Reply #20 on: March 18, 2015, 12:44:02 PM »
They play nine guys? As almost a platoon!  We r going to get tired.

No time to get tired now. We need to run, run then run some more. if we get into a half court slow it down fight, we are in trouble

Re: Greetings from San Diego
« Reply #21 on: March 18, 2015, 03:57:56 PM »
To our San Diego St. Friends, does your team like to run?
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« Reply #22 on: March 18, 2015, 03:58:38 PM »
They play nine guys? As almost a platoon!  We r going to get tired.
If we get into foul trouble, 10th man Dakarai Allen is an elite defender.  He's long and athletic and more offensively inept than the guys in front of him.  He's a slasher without much else of a game on that end.

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Re: Greetings from San Diego
« Reply #23 on: March 18, 2015, 04:01:27 PM »
How many games do you think they scout? Hoping they are not prepared for Dom. The last few big eat games seemed like he was figured out.

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« Reply #24 on: March 18, 2015, 04:04:31 PM »
To our San Diego St. Friends, does your team like to run?
Our best offense comes in transition when we can use our athletic ability as opposed to actual basketball skills like shooting.

However, it is directly dependent on turnovers produced. 

I'd love to see us run more.  We have the guys who can and the depth (9 deep). 

Re: Greetings from San Diego
« Reply #25 on: March 18, 2015, 04:05:56 PM »
Would you guys agree to five on five....no subs?
If you promise to allow Quinn to shoot FTs for everybody else on our team. 

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« Reply #26 on: March 18, 2015, 04:09:37 PM »
JPaztec, I'd be interested to hear what sdsu fans think of our old friend Polee.
What JP wrote.

Also, the I love how the Show gets the arena to chant "Polee!  Polee!  Polee!  Polee!" in the tune of the "Ole" chant when he makes a play. 

Re: Greetings from San Diego
« Reply #27 on: March 18, 2015, 04:26:22 PM »
'Nother SDSU fan here.  Should be a good game on Friday, and my early feeling is that it will simply come down to who can hit their outside shots at a higher clip.

Polee is definitely a fan favorite out here.  Had very high expectations coming into the season - Preseason All-MWC and starting at wing for our top 25 squad (again, preseason...).  We needed him to be a 12-14 ppg guy shooting the same % he did last year, but a couple games before he went down he was actually pulled from the starting lineup for 6'6" SG Matt Shrigley.  Shrigley was supposed to give us that outside shooting spark on O but has been inconsistent, to say the least, all season.  When DP finally got back, he brought the same energy he brought last year as our 6th man and has rotated between a 6 man and a starter.  Due to his heart condition, he can be out of any game with like two hours notice.

We play anywhere between 8 and 12 guys, with no considerable drop off between them, but each brings something unique and their own pros and cons.  With thinner teams, we usually like to play more guys and will mass substitute a la UK after the first TV timeout.  We usually press on every made bucket and free throw.  My concern here is that you guys playing five guards that know a Big East schedule will be able to handle that press well and get easy looks in transition.  Many times, the M2M press is just to put pressure on the ball handler and wear down the opposition - other times we will ratchet it up and go for turnovers depending on the flow of the game.  Fisher is a big 'game of runs' coach, so if he smells blood out there the press will come hard and in waves.  We play exclusively man to man, so if you happen to see us in a zone it's because we're down 20.  That man to man is played "heels on the line" as our D Coach likes to call it - switch every screen and guard out just a bit past the three point line.  Skylar Spencer, our junior Center who is already our school's all-time leading shot blocker, makes this an effective way to play as his help defense is second to none (...sounds like Obekpa to y'all).

Your offense sounds very similar to ours, honestly.  Our best offense is getting out in transition and finding easy looks before we have to settle into a sometimes anemic half court set.  Our offense always looks terrible, but it only actually IS terrible when shots aren't falling.  We have multiple guys who are very competent and confident three point shooters (Shrigley, DP, Aqeel Quinn, Malik Pope, Trey Kell), and when one or two of them are making shots we are almost impossible to guard.  Shrigley has been baffling at times - he can go entire weeks without shooting, go 0 for 8 in any given game, or make 5 threes in a half.  DP is a spot up guy that roams the perimeter, and is good for 2 or 3 attempts per game (though he has been hitting the mid range shot lately).  AQ is our walkon point playing out of position, but gets us into our offense adequately and has actually shot better than 40% from distance the last few weeks.  6'10"/7'3" with hair Malik Pope is an absolute freak, has only played in 10 or 15 real games since he broke his leg his junior year of high school.  5 star top 40 guy even after two leg breaks and no HS experience, is on Ford's draft board as a one and done lotto pick even with the very limited minutes he's played at the college level.  Mismatch for anyone on the floor as he is our best three point shooter and can also throw down an alley oop over two guys at the back end of a 2-3.

Winston Shepard is always a big question mark for us, and especially considering his ties to SJU he might try to do too much.  If he is in attack mode, he is an NBA prospect with great slashing ability and a good midrange game.  If he gets tentative, his deep ball can be god awful and his dunks turn into layups.  Bad Shep - it's probably yours to win.  Good Shep - it's probably ours to win.   

Fisher just recently called JJ O'Brien the smartest player he's ever coached.  Our entire offense runs through him, and he transitions effortlessly between scorer and facilitator.  The only way to guard him on the block, especially with a smaller defender, is to bring a double.  He is great off the bounce and back to basket against anyone 6'8" or shorter.  Amazing basketball fundamentals, intangibles, and post savvy.  Think Perry Ellis for KU.

We are both senior-led teams, both hungry to prove something... I think it should be a great game.  Either way, I'll be rooting for a Duke loss on Sunday.  I do think we would have been a 2-3 point underdog if your big guy was still playing, as opposed to a 2-3 point favorite.  Hopefully everyone stays healthy and the refs don't get too involved.

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P.S. Who is Lou Carnesecca?  Had to Google "St. John's Lou..." in order to register an account!
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Re: Greetings from San Diego
« Reply #28 on: March 18, 2015, 04:43:04 PM »
LOL  Even I know Lou.  He was the man during the Mark Jackson-Chris Mullin days when I first became a college hoops fan.

I did have to google the correct spelling. 
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Re: Greetings from San Diego
« Reply #29 on: March 18, 2015, 04:54:13 PM »
One error I saw some of you guys have with our analysis is SDSU is not a good rebounding team. We are a decent defensive rebounding team and a dominant offensive rebounding team.   Don’t use avg. per game that’s deceiving due to number of possessions per SDSU game.  SDSU rebounds almost 1/3 of its offensive misses; tops in the nation.   And we miss a ton of shots!  This is why teams go back to playing man against us, or when we’re shooting well from outside.  I will try to locate a clip when we had about 6-7 offensive boards in a single sequence of volleyball off the glass.   

Another reason for our offensive rebounding is we run plays off missed free throws to get the rebound.  You will see our guys cross in the paint screening other guys out so one guy can be freed to get the board.  I guess when you miss enough FTs, you figure out how to do something about it. 

I just hope, if you guys win you will have the lead at the 5 minute mark to keep our 144 game streak in place.  lol

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« Reply #30 on: March 18, 2015, 05:03:10 PM »
Also, if you’re watching us, thinking, “Can this 6’7, PF JJ O’Brien actually dunk?”

Yes!  He is a perfect 1-for-1 on dunks for the season. 

Someone on the Aztec boards, called him the Little Fundamental.  That name fits aptly.  Leads the team in minutes, assists, boards and steals and top 3 scorer.  He is the ultimate glue guy.  If we win, you will hate him.  Yup, he’s that guy on the other team who always gets the loose ball, plays smart making the right passes and waits for the other guy to make a mistake and then he attacks.

IMO, he is the key to the game since he is basically our point forward.  He rarely takes it up the court, but we run our offense through him.   Barring foul trouble, he won’t rest much unlike the rest of the Aztec starters.   

Re: Greetings from San Diego
« Reply #31 on: March 18, 2015, 05:05:22 PM »
How many games do you think they scout? Hoping they are not prepared for Dom. The last few big eat games seemed like he was figured out.

I thought it was weird they had Dom operating on baseline instead of high post. Seemed lost instead of figured out imo.
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Re: Greetings from San Diego
« Reply #32 on: March 18, 2015, 08:51:12 PM »
Excellent analysis Marillac.  I think you error a little on the side of over the top optimism (Amar can turn in a monster game Friday? We haven't seen anything to suggest that).   But overall that was spot on about our strengths and weaknesses.

Aztec, you should know there are several threads on here filled with prayers and well-wishes for dwayne, and updates on his recovery.  We were watching from afar, and he was well liked when he was here.
there were some rumors his frosh year that his dad was a little over bearing, but barely a peep about the kid.   Glad to see he found a good home.


Should be a close and competitive game on Friday.   Is SDSU a mostly man to man d?  Because teams that zone us find out quickly whether we are on that day or not.   Against the zone we can live and die by the 3.  Some games we've shot above 50% from deep and rolled teams from the opening bell.  In other outings dangelo and Phil have struggled, and we've consequently struggled to get good possesions.

Those thoughts and prayers for DP are much appreciated, he's a truly great kid.

SDSU plays exclusively man to man, that switches a lot of screens due to the athletic ability of positions 2-4. who are all between 6-6 and 6-8, long, and capable of guarding anywhere from a 1-4.  That's the  tough part about our Defense, is that there are very rarely  mismatches on the perimeter.  Best bet is to get Matt Shrigley switched onto a big, or our shot blocker Skylar Spencer onto a guard. 

Our second unit (we rotate 4 in off the bench, nearly platoon style) isn't quite as lock down on defense, but poses a stronger offensive threat in my opinion.  DP can put points on the board if he's hitting from deep, and the money maker (quite literally, in the near future) is Malik Pope, 6-10 freshman who is uber athletic and is probably our best 3 point shooter.  He'll be a problem all day on the offensive end, but his defense hasn't caught up to his offense by a long shot.  Potential mismatch as he can post up smaller guards, but still stroke it from deep if you go to a zone. 

What style of defense does your team usually throw out there?  Teams that zone us have had the most success due to the inconsistency of our shooting.  That's probably the best word for it, as we have 4-5 guys capable of knocking down the deep ball, but it feels like if one is off, the basket shrinks and they're all off.  That's where our scoring woes come into play.

Coach prefers man-to-man, but mixes in a matchup zone often.  We've gone to a standard 2-3 at times recently, and I suspect you'll mostly see that...packed in quite a bit. 

We cannot be effectively pressed.  Doing so will only play to our advantage and give us more open looks.  Our third ball-handler, Phil Greene, can beat a press by himself off the bounce and rarely turns it over during his four-year career.  Our starting PF (and at times center), Dom Pointer, is only 6'6 (recruited as a G/F) and would be able to take any big you have off the bounce.

It is music to my ears to hear that you guys are exclusively man-to-man.  I) that is why we are able to play Duke close regularly and even beat them once in a while (we play nearly every year the last couple decades). 

From what I've seen from SDSU, O'Brien will look like an All-American on Friday against us.  You guys will score at least two baskets on missed FTs, and will win the rebounding battle.  You'll beat us back on D for a few made baskets.  If you switch to that 1-3-1, we'll hit a few quick threes to force you out of it. 

Again, we are very similar teams. 

Re: Greetings from San Diego
« Reply #33 on: March 18, 2015, 09:47:50 PM »

Our second unit 

What is this "second unit" thing you speak of?

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Re: Greetings from San Diego
« Reply #34 on: March 18, 2015, 10:47:03 PM »
Jordan is going to dominate this game. 

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Re: Greetings from San Diego
« Reply #35 on: March 18, 2015, 10:58:10 PM »
Jordan is going to dominate this game. 

Can't ask for a better fit for him to do so.  He'll get plenty of bigger, slower defenders on him with their switches.  Take it to the basket!

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Re: Greetings from San Diego
« Reply #36 on: March 18, 2015, 11:07:46 PM »
He seems to think of himself as an NBA player. Well this is the time of year where if you dominate those people will start to take notice

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Re: Greetings from San Diego
« Reply #37 on: March 18, 2015, 11:45:40 PM »
Excellent analysis Marillac.  I think you error a little on the side of over the top optimism (Amar can turn in a monster game Friday? We haven't seen anything to suggest that).   But overall that was spot on about our strengths and weaknesses.


We'll win Friday.  I'm hopeful that Alibegovic can turn in a gem if he can stay out of foul trouble (tall task for him).  Perhaps the zone can protect him.  Every tournament some previously unknown player rises to unlikely hero.  Why not a talented freshman with his first big chance?

A week of first team reps and treatment can really get a guy ready for such an explosion.

8 points 8 boards 5 fouls is my prediction.


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« Reply #38 on: March 19, 2015, 12:17:17 AM »
Excellent analysis Marillac.  I think you error a little on the side of over the top optimism (Amar can turn in a monster game Friday? We haven't seen anything to suggest that).   But overall that was spot on about our strengths and weaknesses.


We'll win Friday.  I'm hopeful that Alibegovic can turn in a gem if he can stay out of foul trouble (tall task for him).  Perhaps the zone can protect him.  Every tournament some previously unknown player rises to unlikely hero.  Why not a talented freshman with his first big chance?

A week of first team reps and treatment can really get a guy ready for such an explosion.

8 points 8 boards 5 fouls is my prediction.
I'll take it. Amar and Joey can hack away For their 10 minutes

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Re: Greetings from San Diego
« Reply #39 on: March 19, 2015, 12:24:37 AM »
Excellent analysis Marillac.  I think you error a little on the side of over the top optimism (Amar can turn in a monster game Friday? We haven't seen anything to suggest that).   But overall that was spot on about our strengths and weaknesses.


We'll win Friday.  I'm hopeful that Alibegovic can turn in a gem if he can stay out of foul trouble (tall task for him).  Perhaps the zone can protect him.  Every tournament some previously unknown player rises to unlikely hero.  Why not a talented freshman with his first big chance?

A week of first team reps and treatment can really get a guy ready for such an explosion.

8 points 8 boards 5 fouls is my prediction.
I'll take it. Amar and Joey can hack away For their 10 minutes

I don't see Joey being a big factor here.  They don't have a back-to-the-basket scoring threat and have no beef on the team.  I think this is Amar's day and *gulp* Christian Jones. 

If I'm the coach, I'm on Jones all week ferociously about him stepping up and playing to his physical talent...that we live and die by his ability to step up and play like the player he looks like.  Come game time, stay on him...ferocious and intense...keep him directed.  Get somebody to call him out in practice this week.  It's sickening that we desperately need the type of player Jones looks like he can be physically. 

If he can give us 10-12 productive minutes on the glass, this is a different squad.