So again with this 1 time game where they ALMOST win is now definitive of a can't miss.
Well what about a coach who actually won as a 12 seed (Bobby Gonzalez)? What about a coach who took a MAAC team to the Tourney as a 9 seed (McCaffrey)?
Are you lining up Hall of Fame votes for those guys?
Give me a break with this 1 game nonsense. Remember last year Masiello nearly beat the defending NC #4 seed Louisville and then he got hired by USF before that fell thru. USF is arguably the WORST high major job in America, if you consider them high major. And this year he came within 10 points of beating Hampton in a play in game which proves exactly what?
What if under a 1 game scenario Buffalo hired Mike Krzyzewski. And that one game was the NCAA Tourney game against WVU. And he almost beat them.
Does that mean Bobby Hurley is as a good a coach as Mike Krzyzewski and if given the opportunity with 30+ years at Duke he would win 1000 games?
No it doesn't meant that at all. It is pure nonsense.
Nowhere did I say he'd be the next Coach K but he's one of the hottest coaches in the country right now with great coaching pedigree. Not sure what Masiello has to do with anything, he hasn't coached anywhere other than Manhattan yet so it's yet to be seen if he'll be successful or not. McCaffery inherited a brutally bad Iowa team and has led them to back to back NCAA tournaments and has won a game in the tournament. You can't say he's been a failure. Bobby G failed because he's certifiably insane.
I am also not saying had Lavin and Hurley switched places for that one game that Lavin wouldn't have had a good game against WVU. I am saying that had Lavin been coaching Buffalo these past two years instead of Hurley, that program doesn't sniff a tournament.
You brought up a bunch of guys that have had one big tournament win or close game and have not had success after that. In our case with Lavin, we aren't experiencing any type of success either and we didn't even have our big tournament moment. But again, if you want to accept mediocrity and pass up the chance to be great thats up to you. Hurley might not be great, but he certainly can be, where Lavin has proven he can't and won't be great
Give me a break with this nonsense.
First off you completely miss the point. You can take any coach in a 1 game situation and do anything with it and it doesn't prove anything. Any coach. Take the St. Peter's coach and put him with Buffalo for 1 game and say he almost beats WVU. So what? Then take the best coach in America and give him the same situation. It So what?
Excuse making for McCaffery. Love the 2 NCAA appearances. Go look, last year they completely collapsed end of the year. Believe they lost 6 of 7 to finish 9-9, lost in the first round of the B10 Tourney and then lost in the play in round of the NCAA's as an 11 seed. So go look at that 4 year record and translate that here at SJU. Really you are going to make excuses for him after 4 years? NO WAY.
Goes to another point I always make. People are quick to make excuses for other coaches instead of their own simply because it is a convenient way to criticize the coach they have when in fact they would not tolerate much of the stuff they excuse for other coaches.
There is nothing in Bobby Hurley's record that screams that he will be a serious upgrade at this point. I don't care what excuses you come up with.
Do you remember how some people was pumping up Willard before the season? Those same people would've tarred and feathered Willard, if he was at St. John's.
goredmen acts like he has just started watching the tournament. There are always situations where a low seed gives a higher seed all they can handle or even beats 'em. So, I'd be careful using that one-game scenario, as a way to translate into long-term success. I'm not saying Hurley can't or won't be successful at the higher-level. I'm just stating a game or so in the NCAA tournament isn't necessarily a barometer for sustained success.
Yes, I am aware that in a one game scenario anything can happen. However, Bobby Hurley just getting Buffalo to the tournament was a huge accomplishment, and he did it in only his 2nd year there. Buffalo is a program that has been to a grand total of 0 NCAA tournaments and 1 NIT prior to Hurley getting there and not only did he get them there in year 2, he got them in as a 12 seed and was competitive against a really good WVU team.
Tell me this, what exactly has Lavin accomplished here? We're slightly better than we were during the Norm years, not something to celebrate. 20 win seasons like the one we had last year is not an accomplishment when you go 2-9 against actual NCAA tournament teams and don't hear your name called on selection sunday