St. Thomas Aquinas Game Thread

Quote from: Foad on November 06, 2015, 05:47:52 PM

Quote from: redstorm212 on November 06, 2015, 05:24:18 PM

Quote from: Foad on November 06, 2015, 05:07:59 PM

Quote from: redstorm212 on November 06, 2015, 04:32:54 PM

The team would look a lot better (this season) with Lavin still at the helm. We wouldn't lose a scrimmage by 30 pts to St Thomas Aquinas, that's for sure.

The team would not look a lot better, because Lavin would still be coaching. And he stinks. He proved that he can win with seniors, aka players who don't need to be coached. See also Davis, Baron. All you'd be hearing this year is how young the team is and how they're taking baby steps up the hill towards the hammer which was about to be hitting the rock. It's your prerogative to GAF about "a scrimmage." But a scrimmage is defined as " simulated game." As such it has no meaning.

You must not have watched the game.

I watched the the first exhibition game coached by Coach Mullin and his 11 new players. And I consider it meaningless relative to the long term success of a program that is infinitely well off as opposed to where it would have been if the repulsive proven loser Steve Lavin were still coaching. Of course as a Lavin toady, YMMV.

What have you seen that makes you think we're better off with Mullin than Lavin? We have played one exhibition game, and the biggest take away is the players look like the worst team to ever take the floor for St.John's.

You hated Lavin.  You were the most negative Lavin basher around.  Now you want to act like Mullin can't compare?  SMFH.  You just like being negative.

Quote from: Poison on November 06, 2015, 06:28:58 PM

Quote from: Foad on November 06, 2015, 05:47:52 PM

Quote from: redstorm212 on November 06, 2015, 05:24:18 PM

Quote from: Foad on November 06, 2015, 05:07:59 PM

Quote from: redstorm212 on November 06, 2015, 04:32:54 PM

The team would look a lot better (this season) with Lavin still at the helm. We wouldn't lose a scrimmage by 30 pts to St Thomas Aquinas, that's for sure.

The team would not look a lot better, because Lavin would still be coaching. And he stinks. He proved that he can win with seniors, aka players who don't need to be coached. See also Davis, Baron. All you'd be hearing this year is how young the team is and how they're taking baby steps up the hill towards the hammer which was about to be hitting the rock. It's your prerogative to GAF about "a scrimmage." But a scrimmage is defined as " simulated game." As such it has no meaning.

You must not have watched the game.

I watched the the first exhibition game coached by Coach Mullin and his 11 new players. And I consider it meaningless relative to the long term success of a program that is infinitely well off as opposed to where it would have been if the repulsive proven loser Steve Lavin were still coaching. Of course as a Lavin toady, YMMV.

What have you seen that makes you think we're better off with Mullin than Lavin? We have played one exhibition game, and the biggest take away is the players look like the worst team to ever take the floor for St.John's.

You hated Lavin.  You were the most negative Lavin basher around.  Now you want to act like Mullin can't compare?  SMFH.  You just like being negative.

No, I didn't hate Lavin. I gave him credit for what he deserved credit for, and I called him out for what I felt he deserved to be called out for. That's called being fair. If you think I'm negative, maybe a shit program/institution for 23 years has contributed to that?

to all of you who are inferring, suggesting or just plain stating that we would be better off with Lavin......please guys, are you for real......the only thing he left us with were 2 headcases who would have been thrown out of any respectable program,  the end of the bench and a few potential recruits who were by no means a lock. We wont be good for probably 2 years but we are moving in the right direction.   

to all of you who are inferring, suggesting or just plain stating that we would be better off with Lavin......please guys, are you for real......the only thing he left us with were 2 headcases who would have been thrown out of any respectable program,  the end of the bench and a few potential recruits who were by no means a lock. We wont be good for probably 2 years but we are moving in the right direction.   

No one is suggesting that we wanted STJ to extend Lavin, but don't tell me that we are better off now. We don't know that yet. All we know is that we lost by 32 points to a team that even in a rebuilding year, we are expected to beat by 32 points. What on earth tells you that we are moving in the right direction, other than the fact that Lavin isn't the coach anymore?

to all of you who are inferring, suggesting or just plain stating that we would be better off with Lavin......please guys, are you for real......the only thing he left us with were 2 headcases who would have been thrown out of any respectable program,  the end of the bench and a few potential recruits who were by no means a lock. We wont be good for probably 2 years but we are moving in the right direction.   

Dude, we just lost to St Thomas Aquinas by 32 points. That is frankly unimaginable. Don't even try to make the argument we wouldn't be better with Lavin right now. I believe in Mullin, and it's not really a knock on him to suggest our 2015-16 would have been more successful under Lavin. By firing him we went from just a rebuilding year to a complete overhaul. I'm not arguing about who would be better in the long run, I'm talking strictly about THIS season. But anyone who wouldn't take those two "head cases" right about now is insane.

I knew we were going to be bad this season, but I wasn't ruling out an NIT bid. Watching that exhibition was deflating, and I'm really hoping to see dramatic improvement today. I support Mullin 100% and am thrilled he is our coach, but blaming Lavin for this season is stupid, unfair, and just desperately searching for a scapegoat.

Longest game thread of the year.....and it is exhibition. 

Longest game thread of the year.....and it is exhibition. 

And most of it is about Lavin. Is Lavin going to be the new Norm Roberts from a few years ago where every thread turns into a debate about him because that gets old real quick. He is gone so lets talk about the team and coaches we have.