Mussini is not a PG and can't guard

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Mussini is not a PG and can't guard
« on: November 16, 2015, 09:16:15 PM »
Is not really a point guard, needs to get stronger can't guard anyone and has not played anyone yet.

With that being said he has the nicest jump shot this program has had seen since Larry Wright and WASJU claims him as his favorite player. Besides Wright he also reminds me of Henry Steele, which is the nicest compliment I can give someone.
« Last Edit: November 16, 2015, 11:25:24 PM by Dave »

Re: Mussini
« Reply #1 on: November 16, 2015, 09:22:36 PM »
Yes he will struggle against stronger guards. He will be serviceable at PG this season, but will fare much better playing off the ball with Lovett next year.

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Re: Mussini
« Reply #2 on: November 16, 2015, 09:48:30 PM »
I think his ball handling is improving every game.

Re: Mussini
« Reply #3 on: November 16, 2015, 09:53:08 PM »
He will get exposed for sure against the better and more physical athletes.  But as Baldi correctly stated, he is going to get burn good or bad, which will ultimately help in the long run.  Think he will be a really nice player here.  Very excited about watching him develop.  And love the stroke/basketball acumen.

Re: Mussini
« Reply #4 on: November 16, 2015, 10:35:42 PM »
Crafty, savvy, fearless, can shoot. Love this kid's game!  :)

Re: Mussini
« Reply #5 on: November 16, 2015, 11:18:35 PM »
Is not really a point guard, needs to get stronger can't guard anyone and has not played anyone yet.

With that being said he has the nicest jump shot this program has had seen since Larry Wright and WASJU claims him as his favorite player. Besides Wright he also reminds me of Henry Steele, which is the nicest compliment I can give someone.

6 assists is a nice number for a kid who isn't a PG. 

i do agree he'll likely be better off the ball but he's made noticeable improvements since the exhibitions in a few respects.  He's been much better defending the ball and he's gotten a much better feel for what passes he can make and which he can't make against more athletic competition than what he faced in Europe.  I think it's important to appreciate the improvement we're seeing.
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Re: Mussini
« Reply #6 on: November 16, 2015, 11:22:58 PM »
Is not really a point guard, needs to get stronger can't guard anyone and has not played anyone yet.

With that being said he has the nicest jump shot this program has had seen since Larry Wright and WASJU claims him as his favorite player. Besides Wright he also reminds me of Henry Steele, which is the nicest compliment I can give someone.

While I agree with everything you said he did make a number of nice defensive plays tonight. He has active hands (not an Italian joke) and disrupted passing lanes. I'm not trying to draw direct comparisons to Steph Curry but from a body type (weak, undersized) he had similar criticisms entering the NBA but he filled out and uses his quick hands to be disruptive. Give Mussini some time and I bet he gets better.
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Re: Mussini is not a PG and can't guard
« Reply #7 on: November 16, 2015, 11:55:03 PM »
Mussini is gonna be one heck of player when he can be used as a combo guard. Big East fans are going to hate his guts.
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Re: Mussini is not a PG and can't guard
« Reply #8 on: November 17, 2015, 12:02:58 AM »
His game will improve as he builds muscle and confidence (which he seems to be getting there already).

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Re: Mussini is not a PG and can't guard
« Reply #9 on: November 17, 2015, 12:26:35 AM »
Is not really a point guard, needs to get stronger can't guard anyone and has not played anyone yet.

With that being said he has the nicest jump shot this program has had seen since Larry Wright and WASJU claims him as his favorite player. Besides Wright he also reminds me of Henry Steele, which is the nicest compliment I can give someone.

While I agree with everything you said he did make a number of nice defensive plays tonight. He has active hands (not an Italian joke) and disrupted passing lanes. I'm not trying to draw direct comparisons to Steph Curry but from a body type (weak, undersized) he had similar criticisms entering the NBA but he filled out and uses his quick hands to be disruptive. Give Mussini some time and I bet he gets better.

Keep that Curry comparison handy for Ponds next year ;)

I'm not ready to say that Mussini definitely isn't a point guard.  He's not a born pure PG like Lovett...he's just a guard.  Sometimes we force the distinction and most of the time there is a clear difference, but there are some guys like Mussini that it is just splitting hairs.  Whatever he is, thank God he's on this team or we wouldn't have a chance.  I'm sure he'll get exposed by some more physical older players against better teams, but the kid can play.   He can create shots for himself and for others.   You don't get six assists in your second collegiate game and run an offense as well as he did if you are just an undersized shooting guard. 

Re: Mussini is not a PG and can't guard
« Reply #10 on: November 17, 2015, 12:31:49 AM »
Crafty, savvy, fearless, can shoot. Love this kid's game!  :)
Kind of like his coach others here would also add slow and not particularly strong also like his coach
« Last Edit: November 17, 2015, 12:41:02 AM by 96 Schermerhorn Street »

Re: Mussini is not a PG and can't guard
« Reply #11 on: November 17, 2015, 12:48:18 AM »
Is not really a point guard, needs to get stronger can't guard anyone and has not played anyone yet.

With that being said he has the nicest jump shot this program has had seen since Larry Wright and WASJU claims him as his favorite player. Besides Wright he also reminds me of Henry Steele, which is the nicest compliment I can give someone.

While I agree with everything you said he did make a number of nice defensive plays tonight. He has active hands (not an Italian joke) and disrupted passing lanes. I'm not trying to draw direct comparisons to Steph Curry but from a body type (weak, undersized) he had similar criticisms entering the NBA but he filled out and uses his quick hands to be disruptive. Give Mussini some time and I bet he gets better.

Keep that Curry comparison handy for Ponds next year ;)

I'm not ready to say that Mussini definitely isn't a point guard.  He's not a born pure PG like Lovett...he's just a guard.  Sometimes we force the distinction and most of the time there is a clear difference, but there are some guys like Mussini that it is just splitting hairs.  Whatever he is, thank God he's on this team or we wouldn't have a chance.  I'm sure he'll get exposed by some more physical older players against better teams, but the kid can play.   He can create shots for himself and for others.   You don't get six assists in your second collegiate game and run an offense as well as he did if you are just an undersized shooting guard. 

Ponds is more like a lefty Russ Smith or a Nick Van Exel minus the passing. He's all about getting buckets.
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Re: Mussini is not a PG and can't guard
« Reply #12 on: November 17, 2015, 12:50:12 AM »
We all know that he's not a natural point guard. However, since the first two exhibition games, he's gone from Heath Orvis to Dwight Hardy, and yes, I'm fully aware that I'm insane for making that comparison. Hear me out. (I'm not trying to say he's as good as Dwight Hardy)

BUT, he's playing the role of lead guard, which isn't his position, and he's distributing, scoring when it makes sense to and he's been able to handle the backcourt pressure. It's early, and Corey Sanders of Rutgers will be a healthy test for him, but I think he's shown the doubters (like me) that despite acting like a pouty child against Sonoma, he's carried himself well, and he's made smart decisions. Considering that we've seen a lot of young guards play reckless, score-first style of basketball, I find his addition to the program refreshing.

Once he learns to dribble with both hands, hits the weight room and, IDK, friggan eats something, he's going to be a very, very good 4 year player.

Re: Mussini is not a PG and can't guard
« Reply #13 on: November 17, 2015, 01:20:57 AM »
He's averaging 18ppg on 50% shooting over first two games.

D'Angelo Harrison might be only player with better start.
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Re: Mussini is not a PG and can't guard
« Reply #14 on: November 17, 2015, 01:59:03 AM »
He's averaging 18ppg on 50% shooting over first two games.

D'Angelo Harrison might be only player with better start.

And Harrison didn't start that well. He was cold his first two games. Lindsay and Gift were carrying us early on against W&M and Lehigh. (At least that's how I remember it)

Re: Mussini is not a PG and can't guard
« Reply #15 on: November 17, 2015, 02:10:51 AM »
He's averaging 18ppg on 50% shooting over first two games.

D'Angelo Harrison might be only player with better start.

And Harrison didn't start that well. He was cold his first two games. Lindsay and Gift were carrying us early on against W&M and Lehigh. (At least that's how I remember it)

You're right. I was looking at his sophomore game log.
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Re: Mussini is not a PG and can't guard
« Reply #16 on: November 17, 2015, 10:16:56 AM »
he is not going to be able to get into the lane and athletic teams that press him are going to be a nightmare. The issue really is strength at this point. He is going to struggle but definitely the best player to watch on this team.

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Re: Mussini is not a PG and can't guard
« Reply #17 on: November 17, 2015, 10:28:25 AM »
he is not going to be able to get into the lane and athletic teams that press him are going to be a nightmare. The issue really is strength at this point. He is going to struggle but definitely the best player to watch on this team.

No doubt the good teams will pressure us & try to wear down Mussini. Not sure, who can help him at the point. Some suggest M'v, but to date I find his handle suspect, although I value his hustle & spot up shooting potential.

Re: Mussini is not a PG and can't guard
« Reply #18 on: November 17, 2015, 10:59:29 AM »
he is not going to be able to get into the lane and athletic teams that press him are going to be a nightmare. The issue really is strength at this point. He is going to struggle but definitely the best player to watch on this team.

No doubt the good teams will pressure us & try to wear down Mussini. Not sure, who can help him at the point. Some suggest M'v, but to date I find his handle suspect, although I value his hustle & spot up shooting potential.

If you use that Hockey plus minus thing I bet that the Mvouika / Mussini backcourt is really good. Mvouika reminds me of Reggie Jessie. I think you are doing Mussini a favor if you play him with Mvouika.

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Re: Mussini is not a PG and can't guard
« Reply #19 on: November 17, 2015, 11:44:06 AM »
he is not going to be able to get into the lane and athletic teams that press him are going to be a nightmare. The issue really is strength at this point. He is going to struggle but definitely the best player to watch on this team.

No doubt the good teams will pressure us & try to wear down Mussini. Not sure, who can help him at the point. Some suggest M'v, but to date I find his handle suspect, although I value his hustle & spot up shooting potential.

If you use that Hockey plus minus thing I bet that the Mvouika / Mussini backcourt is really good. Mvouika reminds me of Reggie Jessie. I think you are doing Mussini a favor if you play him with Mvouika.

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