6th Man of St. John's Basketball
St. John's Red Storm => Recruiting Archives => Recruiting => 2013 Class => Topic started by: kob24 on May 19, 2010, 09:33:27 PM
-
dave make a profile for him. and all the alumni on here get ur money together in a briefcase and have it ready. im hearing this is the one
-
How good is Jevon?
-
I think there was an article on him in the Daily News or Post a few months ago. Plays on Long Island now or something like that. I think the article said there were some really big programs looking at him. Maybe Cal I forget
-
I will have 2012 page up on the site next week. New forum could be up in less than 24 hours. :)
-
Found the article. Was the post
Jevon Thomas gave it a shot.
He spent a year at Thomas Edison, hoping to make it big as a New York City basketball star. Because of academic problems, disciplinary issues, and other distractions, he played sparingly for the Inventors.
Thomas already knew what he had to do before his freshman year ended.
“I had to get out,†said the 6-foot pass-first point guard with a scorer’s streak. “It just wasn’t for me.â€
Our Savior New American, a private Christian school in Centereach, L.I., however is -- so far at least.
Thomas is the starting point guard and the face of the program, assistant coach Eric Jaklitsch said. He is living with a host family, the Fords, near the school’s campus, and working out with renowned trainer Jerry Powell. He has earned a 75 average at Our Savior, far higher than what he produced at Edison.
“I’m basically here for school and basketball,†he said. “I go from home to school and basketball instead of hanging out with my friends.â€
He has also become religious, frequently attending church and taking Bible classes. That was one of the reasons he chose Our Savior over other prep schools.
“I wanted to change my whole life around,†he said.
Thomas cut out the distractions in his life. He rises every morning at 7 a.m. for school, then from 3 p.m. until 8 p.m. it’s all about basketball before he returns home to catch up on his heavy work load. There is no chance to get into trouble – there is nothing around Our Savior and his new home.
“I’m way more focused,†Thomas said. “Now I have to do things on my own, I can’t count on my family doing it for me. It’s getting me ready for college.â€
Longtime mentor Shawn Simms has seen a different Thomas. The kid who liked to isolate himself with only his closest friends has opened up, willing to try new foods, meeting people and exploring wide-ranging interests.
“He’s more a people person,†Simms said. “It’s a credit to him being there – he’s out of his element.â€
He was all set to attend Our Savior as a freshman, but opted for Edison instead. Jaklitsch can see Thomas maturing, understanding what it takes to become a big-time player. When others were staying warm during the blizzard that hit the Tri-State area recently, Thomas was working out with Powell outdoors, pushing his limits.
At Our Savior, Thomas runs a fast-paced, get-it-and-go attack rather than the halfcourt sets Edison ran.
“The kid has unlimited potential,†Jaklitsch said. “He understands more about working hard. He’s in a unique situation because he’s a freshman leading other people. He’s the future of the program and other good players want to play with him. He plays like a senior.â€
Thomas is still a ways away from making a college decision, although, according to Jaklitsch, many programs have expressed interest. The list – featuring Kentucky, Washington, Syracuse, Memphis, Virginia, West Virginia and Arizona – is a who’s who of top Division I programs.
Already, because of Our Savior’s busy travel schedule, Thomas has played in front of John Calipari and coaches from West Virginia, Syracuse and Virginia. He’s also faced top-ranked point guards Dion Waiters of Life Center Academy (N.J.) and Cory Joseph of Findlay Prep (Nev.).
“At Edison I wasn’t going up against great competition,†Thomas said. “Here, I play against the best.â€
It was what he envisioned when he left his Rosedale, Queens home for Long Island. A change was needed. Thomas likes the results he’s seen so far.
Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/high_school/basketball/for_jevon_thomas_new_life_metamorphosis_1QZb5DGjgf4eiORtISfYBL#ixzz0oQtSaAv4
-
This cat is from Rosedale too? WORD. Represent.
-
He's the One. Per Kob.
http://scouthoops.scout.com/a.z?s=75&p=8&c=1&nid=4631882
http://insider.espn.go.com/ncb/recruiting/tracker/player?recruitId=67414&action=login&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fncb%2frecruiting%2ftracker%2fplayer%3frecruitId%3d67414
-
he is class of 2013 and alot i mean alot of the gurus consider him the best guard regardless of class. we shall see
-
he is class of 2013 and alot i mean alot of the gurus consider him the best guard regardless of class. we shall see
Is he a gaucho ?
-
he is class of 2013 and alot i mean alot of the gurus consider him the best guard regardless of class. we shall see
Is he a gaucho ?
I saw that he was.
-
"South Jamaica?" I thought he was from Rosedale (though sometimes Rosedale/ Laurelton/ etc are lumped into "South Jamaica"). Someone clear this up for me.
http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/high_school/basketball/final_destination_thomas_says_st_nzB77rnNHVyanO94qj32zO (http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/high_school/basketball/final_destination_thomas_says_st_nzB77rnNHVyanO94qj32zO)
More than the opportunity to play with better talent, get further away from his dangerous South Jamaica neighborhood and play a national schedule full of high-level tournaments, Thomas was drawn to the school by Roshown McLeod, the new coach. McLeod, a former standout at New Jersey powerhouse St. Anthony, played college basketball at St. John’s and Duke, was the 20th pick in the 1998 NBA Draft and played four seasons in the league.
“He understands me because he’s been there before,†Thomas said of McLeod, who has served as an assistant coach at Indiana and Fairfield. “He knows the game because he played at a high level.â€
Although Thomas has already bounced around, colleges and scouting services are enamored with the slick, pass-first Thomas. He has received significant interest from Syracuse, Villanova, Xavier, St. John’s, Wake Forest, West Virginia, and Washington. Scout.com ranks Thomas as the 15th-best point guard in the Class of 2012. McLeod, for one, is ecstatic to have Thomas in the fold, a player, he said, that makes a difference,
“He’ll make us a better team,†the coach said. “He’s a floor general. He’s a kid that makes others better on the floor and that’s what stood out to me.â€
-
http://www.zagsblog.com/2010/07/09/jevon-thomas-to-st-benedicts/ (http://www.zagsblog.com/2010/07/09/jevon-thomas-to-st-benedicts/)
This summer he will play with the New York Gauchos U16 squad and excited to see his recruitment take off.
Although his coach keeps tabs of most of his recruiting info. Jevon has looks from “Washington, St. John’s, Villanova, Syracuse, Wake Forest and West Virginia,†among others.
-
St. John´s staff intrigued with Jevon Thomas according to Dick Weiss.
http://twitter.com/NYDNDickWeiss (http://twitter.com/NYDNDickWeiss)
[tweet]http://twitter.com/NYDNDickWeiss/status/18605438891[/tweet]
-
there's that "intrigued" word again
-
Kob was on this kid early, good job outta you! About time you brought something to the table! ;)
-
Jevon Thomas is the best New York City point guard right now. The 6-foot Jamaica, Queens native, who is headed to St. Benedict’s Prep in New Jersey, already has offers from St. John’s and Villanova, but there will be plenty more on the way, several coaches told me. The prototypical point is a one-man fast break, but he has expanded his game offensively and can get wherever he wants on the floor. It’s a shame Thomas will be taking that breathtaking ability to New Jersey. He’s one reason the Gauchos backcourt – with Omar Calhoun at the two – may be one of the best in the country next year.
http://www.nypost.com/p/blogs/zach_braziller/look_back_at_the_aau_super_showcase_F0QJbMpAmdLv3KQhw2aouO (http://www.nypost.com/p/blogs/zach_braziller/look_back_at_the_aau_super_showcase_F0QJbMpAmdLv3KQhw2aouO)
-
Since Edison is across the street from St. John's, this kid might not want to return to the same neighborhood that he just got away from. Hopefully, a few years of emotional growth will help him.
-
Let's bring Thomas AND Calhoun ;)
-
Per Zach Braziller's Twitter....
Thomas is '12 RT @NYPost_Brazille: Forgot to tweet this: Jevon Thomas '11 took an unofficial to St. John's on Friday.
12 minutes ago via UberTwitter
-
Per NBE Basketball (premium content).... Jevon Thomas returning to OSNA and updates his recruiting following visit to SJU and more in today's Basketball...
[tweet]http://twitter.com/NBESports/status/21425531407[/tweet]
-
Anyone see him play this summer?? I have a feeling he'll be coming aboard sooner then later.
-
Anyone see him play this summer?? I have a feeling he'll be coming aboard sooner then later.
I saw him a couple of times at the Peach Jam. Seemed like he was trying to carry his team, which resulted in some inconsistent play the couple times I watched.
Nevertheless, you could clearly see that he's quite a talent.
-
Anyone see him play this summer?? I have a feeling he'll be coming aboard sooner then later.
I saw him a couple of times at the Peach Jam. Seemed like he was trying to carry his team, which resulted in some inconsistent play the couple times I watched.
Nevertheless, you could clearly see that he's quite a talent.
Was the Gauchos team weak? I've heard and read some of their teams this summer were lacking.
-
Anyone see him play this summer?? I have a feeling he'll be coming aboard sooner then later.
I saw him a couple of times at the Peach Jam. Seemed like he was trying to carry his team, which resulted in some inconsistent play the couple times I watched.
Nevertheless, you could clearly see that he's quite a talent.
Was the Gauchos team weak? I've heard and read some of their teams this summer were lacking.
Thomas was playing with the 16u Gauchos and for the most part they seemed a bit weak, Moose. And, yes both Gauchos' teams were lacking (especially, the 17u team) this summer. It was something out of the norm.
-
Jevon Thomas to Maurice Harkless: "congratzz on the commitment see you there soon lol"
-
Jevon Thomas to Maurice Harkless: "congratzz on the commitment see you there soon lol"
Gonzalo- was that from Twitter?
-
Jevon Thomas to Maurice Harkless: "congratzz on the commitment see you there soon lol"
Gonzalo- was that from Twitter?
Facebook. Harkless´ wall.
-
87th in Rivals top 150 for 2012. http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/recruiting/rankings/rank-2509 (http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/recruiting/rankings/rank-2509)
-
http://twitter.com/NYPost_Brazille (http://twitter.com/NYPost_Brazille)
per Zach Braziller twitter:Jevon Thomas '12 is back at Our Savior New American
after initially wanting to attend St. Benedict's Prep.
-
Ray Mernagh on Jevon Thomas:
http://www.nbebasketball.com/w3/2010-0125/getting-to-the-point-introducing-jevon-thomas-2013/ (http://www.nbebasketball.com/w3/2010-0125/getting-to-the-point-introducing-jevon-thomas-2013/)
Even when QEA placed a tremendous defender — 6′4″ Charles McKinney– on the solidly built 6-footer from Queens, he still battled in a way that made you recognize his skill set is off the charts. Thomas finished with 15 points and around 15 dimes (not buying the 19 in the book but I seriously counted 13 so I’ll give him +2 for the bathroom break I took).
Thomas, at one point, threw his body into a much taller defender and moved him to the point where he got an open look and converted the and 1. It was a play only a savvy and talented guard makes. He also got thrown to the floor as he attacked the rim late. He hit with a lot of force and came out of the game. About a minute later he was back in, attacking against the multiple double-teams and traps the opposition threw at him. He also went free throw line to free throw line, saw 6′10″ Juvonte Reddic and 6′9″ Quincy Miller waiting under the hoop, and pulled up and hit the 15-foot mid-range jumper from the free throw line. Smart.
Read more... (http://www.nbebasketball.com/w3/2010-0125/getting-to-the-point-introducing-jevon-thomas-2013/)
-
http://www.zagsblog.com/2010/10/13/st-johns-expecting-big-recruiting-week/ (http://www.zagsblog.com/2010/10/13/st-johns-expecting-big-recruiting-week/)
Jevon Thomas, a 2012 point guard from Our Savior Lutheran in Centereach, Long Island, is also said to be considering committing to St. John’s as a junior.
-
Per Lenn Robbins on twitter!
LennRobbins -
St. John's scores the biggest recruiting coup in the Lavin era getting a commitment from elite PG Jevon Thomas of Queens..
http://twitter.com/# (http://twitter.com/#)!/LennRobbins
huge
-
LENN ROBBINS SAYS HE'S COMMITTED.
TO ST. JOHN'S.
-
How did Dave miss this one? lol
-
LENN ROBBINS SAYS HE'S COMMITTED.
TO ST. JOHN'S.
Wow great news. Good times keep rolling
-
I heart Steve Lavin
-
Jevon just updated his FB status
"its official ..st johns here I come!!!!!!"
welcome to Queens kid
-
So I assume this means that we will not fill our full allotment of scholarships for next year?
-
Best point guard since Eugene Lawrence.
-
He does it AGAIN!! Remarkable!!!
-
Jevon just updated his FB status
"its official ..st johns here I come!!!!!!"
welcome to Queens kid
Welcoming a kid who is already from Queens :)
-
So I assume this means that we will not fill our full allotment of scholarships for next year?
Possibly. But don't assume. You heard what happens when you do right? :)
-
Welcome Jevon!! So this is what it feels like to be a top tier program. Recruits rolling in one after another.
-
Jevon Thomas is clearly wise beyond his years. When you live in the best city in the world, there is no reason to leave.
-
great job by the staff..!!
-
How did Dave miss this one? lol
I should have went to IS8 this weekend. Oh well can't get them all :) oh wait Steve Lavin can!
-
Simply amazing!
-
I'm going to try and make it up to Queens this weekend for NY vs NJ game he is playing in
-
Best point guard since Eugene Lawrence.
:2funny: I see you like to clown around, Poison.
A solid commitment for the Johnnies. I watched him a couple of times over the summer and he is the 'goods.' He got himself in trouble a few times when I saw him over the summer at the Peach Jam. But, he does have some game.
Thomas, being on a team surrounded by the kids from 2011 class, is a terrific addition. The opposition could find themselves focusing on the other players on the roster and Thomas will burn 'em.
Keep the ball rollin', Lavin (and staff)!
-
Never seen this kid play but espn only has him as a 3 star player and around the 20-25th ranked PG in the class. Would you guys consider this ranking to be off? will he end up as a top 100 player for 2012?
-
don't put too much stock into ESPN's ranking of Thomas it hasn't been updated in a long time. Their last evaluation is from 2009
-
[tweet]http://twitter.com/LennRobbins/status/28908234011[/tweet]
Per Lenn Robbins: Thomas could be the next great city pg following in the steps of Pearl, Kenny Anderson. Mark Jackson, Stephon Marbury and Telfair
-
Yeeeeessssssssssss!!!!
Excellent job by Coach Lavin.
Welcome, Jevon!!!
-
http://www.zagsblog.com/2010/10/27/jevon-thomas-to-st-johns/ (http://www.zagsblog.com/2010/10/27/jevon-thomas-to-st-johns/)
Having already landed the top New York City player in the Class of 2011 in Maurice Harkless, St. John’s has now gotten a verbal pledge from the best 2012 player in the Big Apple, point guard Jevon Thomas.
Thomas, the No. 14 point guard in the Class of 2012 per Rivals, called Johnnies head coach Steve Lavin Tuesday night to commit.
Asked what he liked about the Johnnies, the 6-foot, 175-pound Thomas said by text, “Coaching staff and I’m just trying to bring NYC basketball back!!”
He also had interest from Washington, Villanova, Syracuse, Wake Forest and West Virginia,
“Jevon will bring back that electric energy and fire back to the Garden and New York,” said Casey Williams, Thomas’ AAU coach.
“He’s a great leader on the court and he’s a New Yorker. He will bring lots of fire and the will to win.”
The St. John’s staff followed Thomas this summer, watching him with the Gauchos at the Peach Jam, among other events.
Thomas briefly transferred from Our Savior New American on Long Island to St. Benedict’s Prep in Newark, but is now back at Our Savior where he is taking sophomore classes.
In order to graduate for 2012, he will have to take summer school classes for the next two summers even as he plays summer ball with the Gauchos, said New York recruiting expert Tom Konchalski.
“He was a freshman last year,” said Konchalski. “Now he’s taking sophomore classes. Our Savior says they can get him out in two years but he has to go to summer school for the next two years. He’s 2012 or 2013.”
Another source said Thomas could do one year of summer school and an on-line course, “but he’ll be fine.”
Still, Konchalski calls him a potential program-changer.
“He’s an elite guard who has another gear,” he said. “He’s very explosive, skilled, gets into the lane, really pushes the ball in the open floor. He can shoot the ball from the perimeter. He’s very, very good.”
-
from the video on redmen he looks likes hes quick, has a good handle, can shoot, pass ,and finish add in all the good things people here have to say about him and it looks like we have a great one
-
You know all you have to do is post a youtube link and it automatically embeds....so easy
Roundball Classic GothamHoops.com Mixtape (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ga2ZdgsjOBA&feature=player_embedded#ws)
-
I am 62 years old (70 grad) and I am so excited with everything thats happening with the bb program at St. John's.Thanks to Steve Lavin and his great staff for their hard work and success. Go ST.JOHN !
-
since kob started this thread, i assume he knows jevon better than anyone.
king, what's your take in this kid???
-
[tweet]http://twitter.com/JohnnyJungleSTJ/status/28926031628[/tweet]
Home Grown Thomas- Jevon Thomas chooses #STJBB the story + quotes http://t.co/r6AYaW9 (http://t.co/r6AYaW9) #VolvoS60
-
Great news! Welcome aboard Jevon!
-
[tweet]http://twitter.com/rpurvis_44/status/28917518729[/tweet]
Any chance we contact him? :D :P
-
From Gus Alfieri to Mark Jackson to Erick Barkley, St. John’s glory years were rife with electric New York City born-and-bred point guards. In the Red Storm’s recent downturn, the area’s best floor generals, be it Kemba Walker or Darryl Bryant, opted to go elsewhere.
New coach Steve Lavin has turned that page, adding several top 100 prospects, and now he has a Queens point guard to reconnect with the program’s past decision makers.
Meet Jevon Thomas, a speedy and skilled 6-foot point guard who verbally committed to St. John’s on Wednesday morning, picking the Red Storm over Villanova, Pittsburgh, Georgia Tech and Florida.
Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/high_school/basketball/thomas_picks_red_john_becoming_latest_9EnFwQSNWFIp4FsxefWX3M#ixzz13c2Osu35 (http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/high_school/basketball/thomas_picks_red_john_becoming_latest_9EnFwQSNWFIp4FsxefWX3M#ixzz13c2Osu35)
-
The article was wrong about one thing: Bryant wanted to come here, Norm didn't agree that he should.
-
guys check out the jungle article on Jevon Thomas
http://johnnyjungle.com/recruiting/home-grown-thomas/ (http://johnnyjungle.com/recruiting/home-grown-thomas/)
-
from the video his wrist snap passes are awe inspiring :D :D
-
Welcome Jevon.
Now hit those books
-
Welcome aboard Jevon! I can get use to this. I feel like a Duke, UK or North Carolina fan! Lavin and staff are doin it!
-
When Steve Lavin took over the St. John's basketball program, he said "great talent will come to play with a great point guard."
It now appears Lavin is getting one.
Jevon Thomas, a speedy 5-11 junior who played at Edison High in Queens before transferring to Our Savior New American (L.I.) two years ago, called Lavin to accept a scholarship offer Wednesday.
"I wanna be part of the rebirth," Thomas said in a text to the Daily News. "Coach Lavin and his staff and their history is amazing."
Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/college/2010/10/28/2010-10-28_lavin_johnnies_land_point_guard.html?r=sports#ixzz13htrkUwW (http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/college/2010/10/28/2010-10-28_lavin_johnnies_land_point_guard.html?r=sports#ixzz13htrkUwW)
-
This was nice to see about our future star point guard.
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/recruiting/basketball/mens/news/story?id=5752252 (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/recruiting/basketball/mens/news/story?id=5752252)
Jevon Thomas (Queens, N.Y./Our Savior New America)
2012, PG, 5-11, 170 pounds
Amayo and Calhoun may have left with the hardware, but Thomas was the best player on the floor on Saturday night. He is quick and bouncy point guard with an air-tight handle and a terrific feel for the game. Thomas also has terrific court vision and a perfected change-of-pace dribble, which allowed him to make plays for himself and others going north to south as well as east to west. The recent St. John's commit made plays on the defensive end of the floor as well and even knocked down two open three-pointers.
I liked how they pointed out that he knocked down some threes.
-
i cant wait to hear and see more info on jevon as this year goes on..hes gonna blow up
-
New video on Thomas....
Jevon Thomas GothamHoops.com Mixtape (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdjYZLsJ1Sk#)
-
that pass at 55 seconds was absurd
-
oooo. nice.
-
Dare I say, I thought I was watching Erick Barkley.
-
The shocking thing about his game from the videos is that he always seems so in control of his body. It's almost like he's going in slow motion. His vision is absurd.
-
[tweet]http://twitter.com/rpurvis_44/status/28917518729[/tweet]
Any chance we contact him? :D :P
Word to even have Purvis saying our name is huge.This young man looks better like he can play in the League already wow.
-
[tweet]http://twitter.com/rpurvis_44/status/28917518729[/tweet]
Any chance we contact him? :D :P
Word to even have Purvis saying our name is huge.This young man looks better like he can play in the League already wow.
Purvis is talented. Purvis and Shabazz Muhammad were coming to Louisville this weekend to check out the campus. His mother is in a relationship with his AAU coach.
It's entirely possible that Thomas may have to be a 2013 recruit.
-
It's entirely possible that Thomas may have to be a 2013 recruit.
I wish that it won´t be true.
-
[tweet]http://twitter.com/rpurvis_44/status/28917518729[/tweet]
Any chance we contact him? :D :P
Word to even have Purvis saying our name is huge.This young man looks better like he can play in the League already wow.
Purvis is talented. Purvis and Shabazz Muhammad were coming to Louisville this weekend to check out the campus. His mother is in a relationship with his AAU coach.
It's entirely possible that Thomas may have to be a 2013 recruit.
So Jevon might go back to 2013?
-
Jevon falling to 2013 would be DEVESTATING to this team's potential.
-
Jevon falling to 2013 would be DEVESTATING to this team's potential.
Devastating?
While it would suck, lets not go overboard. I would have full faith in the staff figuring out an alternative.
-
[tweet]http://twitter.com/rpurvis_44/status/28917518729[/tweet]
Any chance we contact him? :D :P
Word to even have Purvis saying our name is huge.This young man looks better like he can play in the League already wow.
Purvis is talented. Purvis and Shabazz Muhammad were coming to Louisville this weekend to check out the campus. His mother is in a relationship with his AAU coach.
It's entirely possible that Thomas may have to be a 2013 recruit.
What makes you think he could be 2013?
-
Academic issues.
-
Jevon falling to 2013 would be DEVESTATING to this team's potential.
Devastating?
While it would suck, lets not go overboard. I would have full faith in the staff figuring out an alternative.
It's definitely a strong word, but, while I've never seen this kid play, a friend who I trust as much as anyonone told me this kid is an Erik Barkley talent that will start from day one ANYWHERE in the country--Duke, UNC, Kansas, anywhere.
PG's take less time to develop and usually hit the ground running. Look back to that Uconn national championship team, El-Amin was only a soph and the great class before him did not become exceptional until El-Amin came aboard the year after. I think Jevon could have that same effect.
We are all thinking real big here...Final Four or better big...and we need a true pg to get there. I just hope this kid gets it all straightened out.
-
Jevon falling to 2013 would be DEVESTATING to this team's potential.
Devastating?
While it would suck, lets not go overboard. I would have full faith in the staff figuring out an alternative.
It's definitely a strong word, but, while I've never seen this kid play, a friend who I trust as much as anyonone told me this kid is an Erik Barkley talent that will start from day one ANYWHERE in the country--Duke, UNC, Kansas, anywhere.
PG's take less time to develop and usually hit the ground running. Look back to that Uconn national championship team, El-Amin was only a soph and the great class before him did not become exceptional until El-Amin came aboard the year after. I think Jevon could have that same effect.
We are all thinking real big here...Final Four or better big...and we need a true pg to get there. I just hope this kid gets it all straightened out.
He's good no doubt. From everything I've seen and been told.
The good news is he is 2012 right now and not 2011 so he has more time to get it all together.
-
http://stjohns.rivals.com/barrier_noentry.asp?ReturnTo=&sid=&script=content.asp&cid=1170081&fid=&tid=&mid=&rid= (http://stjohns.rivals.com/barrier_noentry.asp?ReturnTo=&sid=&script=content.asp&cid=1170081&fid=&tid=&mid=&rid=)
-
http://stjohns.rivals.com/barrier_noentry.asp?ReturnTo=&sid=&script=content.asp&cid=1170081&fid=&tid=&mid=&rid= (http://stjohns.rivals.com/barrier_noentry.asp?ReturnTo=&sid=&script=content.asp&cid=1170081&fid=&tid=&mid=&rid=)
whats it say?
-
When it comes to suffering, Jevon Thomas has seen plenty. When Thomas was a year old, his father cut out. When he was 12, his mother was deported. At 13, his brother and stepfather were murdered. He was raised by a sister who wasn't much older than he was.
"It was tough," he said. "It just...I don't know how to explain it. Things just didn't seem too good."
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/high_school/2011/01/31/2011-01-31_jevon_thomas_lebrent_walker_support_each_other_through_tough_times_now_thriving_.html (http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/high_school/2011/01/31/2011-01-31_jevon_thomas_lebrent_walker_support_each_other_through_tough_times_now_thriving_.html)
-
Great story. I am really rooting for this kid.
Hope he can focus on school this summer and not get caught up in AAU ball. Who cares where he is ranked.
-
He's got very good straight-ahead speed, a quality handle, and excellent court vision. The things he needs to improve upon are correctable with time: upper-body strength (in order to handle the rigors of penetrating and defending the one in the Big East) and being able to hit the floater in traffic, the mid-range, and three-point shots. Their staff is working with him on hitting the mid-range now--building out.
-
Per ESPN Recruiting (Premium).... I'm sure someone has the full article.
Jevon Thomas emerging as elite PG
After catching the Presidental Hoopfest in Baltimore this past weekend, I wrote that St. John's fans should be excited about junior point guard Jevon Thomas (Queens, N.Y./Our Savior New American).
If Thomas continues to develop and play with the level of consisitentcy he showed this past weekend at the Hoopfest, he will have a chance to be added to the short list of elite point guards in the 2012 class and give St John's head coach Steve Lavin a point guard that can run his team and compete in the upper echelon of the Big East. It looks like Lavin was smart to jump on Thomas, who is a local player and has the makings of a very good team leader. Good players will want to play with this unselfish distributor.
Most of the time Thomas' game is subtle; he goes about his business of facilitating by initiating the offense or creating for teammates. He showed a few moments in his head-to-head matchup with highly-rated 2013 phenom Chris Thomas (Denver, Col./Princeton Day) that showed me Jevon Thomas has another gear he can go to, when pushed.
http://insider.espn.go.com/ncb/blog?name=laplante_mike&id=6150418&ex_cid=nhffromfb&action=upsell&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fncb%2fblog%3fname%3dlaplante_mike%26id%3d6150418%26ex_cid%3dnhffromfb (http://insider.espn.go.com/ncb/blog?name=laplante_mike&id=6150418&ex_cid=nhffromfb&action=upsell&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fncb%2fblog%3fname%3dlaplante_mike%26id%3d6150418%26ex_cid%3dnhffromfb)
-
Here is the rest of that article....
I also got a chance to meet with Jevon Thomas for a little bit after his game and he has a great demeanor. He is a humble, hard working young man that downplays when others try to prop him up and is not afraid to listen to ways he can improve his game. It seems like he is confident in his abilities, wants to let his play do the talking and is not worried about his rating/ranking. These are all qualities that will bode well for him in the future.
Overall, St John's is getting a solid leader and a lightning quick guard with the ball who can shoot it. It will be interesting to follow his progress through the spring and summer circuits to see if he progresses and makes the jump to the upper tier of the 2012 point guard group.
-
Per Rivals....
Jevon Thomas (2012, Metro Hawks)
A St. John's point guard commit, Thomas carved up the CIA Bounce defense in the open court and finished off his speedy bursts with timely and accurate passes
http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1210169 (http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1210169)
-
Per Rivals....
Jevon Thomas (2012, Metro Hawks)
A St. John's point guard commit, Thomas carved up the CIA Bounce defense in the open court and finished off his speedy bursts with timely and accurate passes
http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1210169 (http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1210169)
No more Gauchos?
-
No more Gauchos?
I wondered the same thing, Moose. Maybe, he's playing with the Hawks now and will play with the Gauchos later. Who knows!?!
-
Team broke up. He's down this weekend with Metro Hawks but he might wind up with Juice or NY Elite.
-
Team broke up. He's down this weekend with Metro Hawks but he might wind up with Juice or NY Elite.
Broke up?
-
He played with Juice All Stars at the Pittsburgh Jam. Dave, did you see him play in Pitt? I know he's played in several AAU events this spring, and I barely get any updates or coverage on him. I'm getting a little worried his game is slipping. Any firsthand observations from last weekend?
-
I was told he was playing with Juice and Morton permanently now. Any chance he transfers to Lincoln?
-
Dave whats the story? You and your posse go to Pitt and nobody sees Jevon play? :o :tickedoff:
-
Jevon going to Quality Education Academy next year?
-
Jevon going to Quality Education Academy next year?
Exactly what I mentioned in the QEA article where Coach Pitts mentioned a NYC player he couldnt specifically comment on. Not shocked.
-
Jevon going to Quality Education Academy next year?
Exactly what I mentioned in the QEA article where Coach Pitts mentioned a NYC player he couldnt specifically comment on. Not shocked.
Ya thats the first name that came to my mind when I read that article
-
Jevon going to Quality Education Academy next year?
Exactly what I mentioned in the QEA article where Coach Pitts mentioned a NYC player he couldnt specifically comment on. Not shocked.
Ya thats the first name that came to my mind when I read that article
Marco where did you see it official?
-
Jevon going to Quality Education Academy next year?
Exactly what I mentioned in the QEA article where Coach Pitts mentioned a NYC player he couldnt specifically comment on. Not shocked.
Ya thats the first name that came to my mind when I read that article
Marco where did you see it official?
Oh I didnt see it anywhere, just guessing-thats why I put the question mark
-
Jevon played in the EYBL in Dallas, per Evan Daniels:
Jevon Thomas, PG, Metro Hawks – An early commit to St. John’s, Thomas is an impressive floor general that has a good pace to his game. The 6-foot guard has a slight frame, but that didn’t stop him from using his body in the open court and once he made it to the rim. He has good speed, a nice mid-range jump shot and handles the ball well.
http://scouthoops.scout.com/2/1068828.html (http://scouthoops.scout.com/2/1068828.html)
-
Scout released their updated rankings for the 2012 class. Jevon is #92. I'm a little disappointed with that. I'm expecting a stud PG.
-
Scout released their updated rankings for the 2012 class. Jevon is #92. I'm a little disappointed with that. I'm expecting a stud PG.
Don't be. First off 92 is nothing to sneeze at especially considering the fact that the 2012 class is loaded and second he is the real deal.
He just needs to get his academics in order and he should be alright.
-
A lot of people have opinions of Jevon in one extreme or the other. Love him or hate him. I think it stems from style of play. I think Jevon inserts very well into what St. John's is looking to do.
-
exactly...a pure point surrounded by scorers
happy to have him
-
Also: consider the kind of guard that ends up a highly ranked player - tall, physically sturdy guards or high scoring combo guards who aren't points at all (like Brandon Knight). Very few pass-first PGs get up into the higher levels of the rankings... I think Naadir Tharpe's really good, but he's not a top-40 player b/c he's not that great of a scorer or that big. Kendall Marshall was one of the best freshmen in college ball, but was around a 30th ranked recruit (and he is tall).
If Jevon can handle, pass, lead a team while not getting clowned on defense, he sounds like a good fit. There are enough scorers on the team; the Johnnies are gonna need a facilitator.
-
exactly...a pure point surrounded by scorers
happy to have him
I wouldn't call him a "pure point" He's a scorer
-
Jevon is really really good. Dave i would have to disagree , he is a very crafty ball handler and slick passer. I believe he is ranked to low and will only get better.
-
Jevon is really really good. Dave i would have to disagree , he is a very crafty ball handler and slick passer. I believe he is ranked to low and will only get better.
I'm not dismissing his talents nor saying he isn't a good passer. To call him a "pure point" isn't exactly accurate. I think he's great and more than capable of running an offense especially in this system. There are others though that think he's too much of a scorers mentality, or he's too small, or there are others out there that are better. Put it this way a lot of that stuff was said about Kemba Walker too.
-
Jevon is really really good. Dave i would have to disagree , he is a very crafty ball handler and slick passer. I believe he is ranked to low and will only get better.
I'm not dismissing his talents nor saying he isn't a good passer. To call him a "pure point" isn't exactly accurate. I think he's great and more than capable of running an offense especially in this system. There are others though that think he's too much of a scorers mentality, or he's too small, or there are others out there that are better. Put it this way a lot of that stuff was said about Kemba Walker too.
Pure points can have scoring ability. I don't see the two as mutually exclusive.
What concerns me about Thomas are the stats. They don't seem to be very impessive....ever. Never seen the kid play in person, but I've heard from reputable people that he is the goods. I wonder why his stats aren't more impressive....style of play? talent around him?
-
What concerns me about Thomas are the stats. They don't seem to be very impessive....ever.
I was looking at his stats from the EYBL... they're not impressive, for sure. But he's playing with a couple of Boys & Girls kids (undersized forwards) and one of his OSNA teammates. Not an elite collection of talent. But the numbers from those games are a little worrisome.
-
Everything I've heard is pointing to Jevon being not likely part of the 2012 class, but maybe needing more time and reclassifying to 2013. I think it is why we are seeing Lavin offer guys like Soumaoro, Harrow etc.
-
What concerns me about Thomas are the stats. They don't seem to be very impessive....ever.
I was looking at his stats from the EYBL... they're not impressive, for sure. But he's playing with a couple of Boys & Girls kids (undersized forwards) and one of his OSNA teammates. Not an elite collection of talent. But the numbers from those games are a little worrisome.
OSNA has decent talent, but they lose a lot more games than they should, and none of their players ever seem to hit it big in college, which leads me to believe that the coach sucks.
Samardo was smart to escape there.
-
I saw Jevon play in the IS8 playoffs tonight. I was impressed. He has great handles, was the quickest player on the court, and what I liked the best was how eager he was to pass and get his teammates involved. He scored a decent amount, mostly by getting to the paint and drawing fouls. He also grabbed a bunch of rebounds for a small pg.
His team won btw, they led the whole game.
I know some people were concerned about his lack of stats in other games. There were numerous times in this game when he made a nice pass to a wide open shooter or to a big man down low who couldn't finish. I could easily see his numbers suffering from not playing with great teammates.
-
I saw Jevon play in the IS8 playoffs tonight. I was impressed. He has great handles, was the quickest player on the court, and what I liked the best was how eager he was to pass and get his teammates involved. He scored a decent amount, mostly by getting to the paint and drawing fouls. He also grabbed a bunch of rebounds for a small pg.
His team won btw, they led the whole game.
I know some people were concerned about his lack of stats in other games. There were numerous times in this game when he made a nice pass to a wide open shooter or to a big man down low who couldn't finish. I could easily see his numbers suffering from not playing with great teammates.
Good stuff...Thanks for the insights and letting us know what you saw
-
I saw Jevon play in the IS8 playoffs tonight. I was impressed. He has great handles, was the quickest player on the court, and what I liked the best was how eager he was to pass and get his teammates involved. He scored a decent amount, mostly by getting to the paint and drawing fouls. He also grabbed a bunch of rebounds for a small pg.
His team won btw, they led the whole game.
I know some people were concerned about his lack of stats in other games. There were numerous times in this game when he made a nice pass to a wide open shooter or to a big man down low who couldn't finish. I could easily see his numbers suffering from not playing with great teammates.
He scored 15 last night:
The ability of Whitehead and PG Jevon Thomas (15 points) to get to the stripe helped Juice pull away, although as a team Juice was sour from the charity stripe (they shot a rickety 9-17 in the fourth quarter and 19-36 for the game).
http://nychoops.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1221724 (http://nychoops.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1221724)
-
Is this guy getting recruited over before he even gets a chance to sign?
-
Is this guy getting recruited over before he even gets a chance to sign?
Like I said
-
Is this guy getting recruited over before he even gets a chance to sign?
Like I said
You might have a point.
-
Is this guy getting recruited over before he even gets a chance to sign?
Like I said
You might have a point.
Hopefully St Johns has
-
Is this guy getting recruited over before he even gets a chance to sign?
Like I said
You might have a point.
Hopefully St Johns has
LOL A pretty good one, Baldi.
-
Are we really recruiting over the kid? If we take a pass on MoMo and Harrow, how many PG's do we have on the roster? We will only have possibly Lindsey who will be a junior. Maybe Phil Greene if we consider him a PG, but I think he's more of a combo type. At this point, we don't even know if Jevon will be eligible for 2012. I don't think we need both MoMo and Harrow, but I don't think adding just one of those guys should rock the boat that much. It seems like Jevon is unhappy with the situation, but at this level of ball, having several PGs on the roster is pretty standard.
-
Jevon gets no love from ESPN's top 100 for 2012.
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/recruiting/rankings (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/recruiting/rankings)
-
Jevon gets no love from ESPN's top 100 for 2012.
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/recruiting/rankings (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/recruiting/rankings)
I'm not all into rankings. But if your not Top 100, get some thicker skin. Getting recruited over? Damn right. It's not like he's top 20 or anything.
-
I love Dave Telep, he's the best but I know he hasn't been north and JT hasn't been south so its no surprise to me that he's unlisted. Most people think he's 100-150 anyways.
-
I still think Jevon should head to a Nepsac school this season. It will help both his grades and his game. We'll be able to get more of a feel for his game in a great league like that. He's not top 100 but certainly could ge if he gets serious. Hope he heads to Brewster or similar school.
-
He's rated as a 90 and 3 stars...I see prospect 100 is a 92 so he's just outside the top 100 right now...I have a feeling he'll be climbing the charts next year
-
http://www.cp3camps.com/2011%20CP3%20Elite%20HS%20Roster.pdf (http://www.cp3camps.com/2011%20CP3%20Elite%20HS%20Roster.pdf)
On the Chris Paul camp roster
-
I got this from a post from another forum that I read. The poster just got back from the 2nd day of the CP3 camp.
"Jevon Thomas- St. Johns got a stud in this kid. I admit I knew nothing of this kid coming into the camp but after he made easy work of LJ Rose in 1 on 1 last night he got my attention. He's not the biggest kid at all and he needs to add muscle but his passing ability and being able to finish around the rim with contact makes me even more confident in this kid's ability to play in the Big East. One of the most impressive players so far."
-
http://twitter.com/# (http://twitter.com/#)!/PaulBiancardi
5 11 Jevon Thomas #NY has gr8 quickness and a tight low handle that allows him to go by defenders and score or hand out the assist .
do u think he has a chance to enter the top 100?” Yes he has a chance if he continues to listen and learn .
-
Why isnt Kyle Anderson at this camp?
-
I got this from a post from another forum that I read. The poster just got back from the 2nd day of the CP3 camp.
"Jevon Thomas- St. Johns got a stud in this kid. I admit I knew nothing of this kid coming into the camp but after he made easy work of LJ Rose in 1 on 1 last night he got my attention. He's not the biggest kid at all and he needs to add muscle but his passing ability and being able to finish around the rim with contact makes me even more confident in this kid's ability to play in the Big East. One of the most impressive players so far."
I like this.
-
Why isnt Kyle Anderson at this camp?
Because he wanted to win MVP of the Rumble of the Bronx instead.
-
Why isnt Kyle Anderson at this camp?
Because he wanted to win MVP of the Rumble of the Bronx instead.
That and a quarter will get ya a quarter water
-
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/recruiting/basketball/mens/news/story?id=6659757 (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/recruiting/basketball/mens/news/story?id=6659757)
Best drivers
Jevon Thomas (Queens, N.Y./ Our Savior New American)
2012, PG, 5-11, 170 pounds
College: St. John's
He possesses never-ending speed, blow-by quickness, a tight handle and the vision to see the play. Thomas is hard to stay in front of because he utilizes all his physical tools and skill to distribute the ball or score. A must-have shot for all little guards is a floater, which he has displayed. He keeps attacking defenses and puts them on notice quickly. His jumper is solid but needs work and more importantly he needs to listen and learn to continue his overall development.
-
http://stjohns.rivals.com/barrier_noentry.asp?sid=1171&script=content.asp&cid=1237370&fid=&tid=&mid= (http://stjohns.rivals.com/barrier_noentry.asp?sid=1171&script=content.asp&cid=1237370&fid=&tid=&mid=)
-
http://stjohns.rivals.com/barrier_noentry.asp?sid=1171&script=content.asp&cid=1237370&fid=&tid=&mid= (http://stjohns.rivals.com/barrier_noentry.asp?sid=1171&script=content.asp&cid=1237370&fid=&tid=&mid=)
How has Jevon Thomas performed thus far this AAU season and do you view him as a potential instant starter at St. John's? What do you view as his area most in need of improvement?
- Clint from Norfolk
I was impressed with Thomas' play in April at the first session of the Nike EYBL. He was very quick from baseline to baseline and did a great job penetrating and then finding the open man.
The question about his game is how well he shoots the basketball. His speed with the basketball and penetration ability will get him playing time. If he establishes himself as an outside shooting threat, then he does have a chance to start as an impact player.
-
"Jevon Thomas, PG- From beginning to end, Wednesday was as good as we've ever seen the future St. John's point guard. Super quick with the ball in his hands, Thomas was a blur from end to end as he made plays for himself and others at the rim. He's not a jump shooter, but his creativity off the dribble can make up for it. With his quick feet and fast hands, Thomas has good potential on the defensive end as well if he'll add strength."
http://kentucky.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1237878 (http://kentucky.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1237878)
-
"Jevon Thomas, PG- From beginning to end, Wednesday was as good as we've ever seen the future St. John's point guard. Super quick with the ball in his hands, Thomas was a blur from end to end as he made plays for himself and others at the rim. He's not a jump shooter, but his creativity off the dribble can make up for it. With his quick feet and fast hands, Thomas has good potential on the defensive end as well if he'll add strength."
http://kentucky.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1237878 (http://kentucky.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1237878)
I was impressed with Thomas when I saw him last summer at the Peach Jam. Although, he got himself into trouble a few times (as, didn't have much help on his team).... I still saw enough from him to believe he was a solid player. I also think he's capable of hitting shots, if left open. His strength is certainly his speed and how he puts pressure on the defense.
We could be LOADED in 2012-2013.
-
Jevon Thomas, PG – One of the better lead guards at camp was this 6-foot guard headed to St. John’s. He’s fast and tough to contain when he’s looking to get into the paint. He showed a nice pull-up jump shot, as he knocked in a handful of mid-range jumpers on the day, but he also displayed an ability to create opportunities for teammates.
http://scouthoops.scout.com/2/1084775.html (http://scouthoops.scout.com/2/1084775.html)
Looks like Chiles made his way down from Reading to Philly yesterday mid-day. He was watching Jermaine and then went to Philly to watch Jevon.
-
Jevon Thomas, PG – One of the better lead guards at camp was this 6-foot guard headed to St. John’s. He’s fast and tough to contain when he’s looking to get into the paint. He showed a nice pull-up jump shot, as he knocked in a handful of mid-range jumpers on the day, but he also displayed an ability to create opportunities for teammates.
http://scouthoops.scout.com/2/1084775.html (http://scouthoops.scout.com/2/1084775.html)
Looks like Chiles made his way down from Reading to Philly yesterday mid-day. He was watching Jermaine and then went to Philly to watch Jevon.
Sounds like Jermaine Lawrence is going to be a big target of ours for 2013. We're going after the ones we need to try to keep at home.
-
@AdamZagoria Adam Zagoria
St. John's coach Steve Lavin left LeBron for Philly Reebok to check out 2012 pledge Jevon Thomas and uncommitted Kamari Murphy #stjbb
2 minutes ago via web
-
@AdamZagoria Adam Zagoria
St. John's coach Steve Lavin left LeBron for Philly Reebok to check out 2012 pledge Jevon Thomas and uncommitted Kamari Murphy #stjbb
2 minutes ago via web
Was Lavin on an exercise bike? ;)
-
"Jevon Thomas, PG- From beginning to end, Wednesday was as good as we've ever seen the future St. John's point guard. Super quick with the ball in his hands, Thomas was a blur from end to end as he made plays for himself and others at the rim. He's not a jump shooter, but his creativity off the dribble can make up for it. With his quick feet and fast hands, Thomas has good potential on the defensive end as well if he'll add strength."
http://kentucky.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1237878 (http://kentucky.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1237878)
I was impressed with Thomas when I saw him last summer at the Peach Jam. Although, he got himself into trouble a few times (as, didn't have much help on his team).... I still saw enough from him to believe he was a solid player. I also think he's capable of hitting shots, if left open. His strength is certainly his speed and how he puts pressure on the defense.
We could be LOADED in 2012-2013.
It seems like Thomas plays with poor talent frequently. If he was coming up in the city almost any other year, he'd be surrounded by some good players. I wonder what effect it has on his #'s/game. The Gauchos squad he was on last year had to be one of the weakest ever.
-
"Jevon Thomas, PG- From beginning to end, Wednesday was as good as we've ever seen the future St. John's point guard. Super quick with the ball in his hands, Thomas was a blur from end to end as he made plays for himself and others at the rim. He's not a jump shooter, but his creativity off the dribble can make up for it. With his quick feet and fast hands, Thomas has good potential on the defensive end as well if he'll add strength."
http://kentucky.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1237878 (http://kentucky.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1237878)
I was impressed with Thomas when I saw him last summer at the Peach Jam. Although, he got himself into trouble a few times (as, didn't have much help on his team).... I still saw enough from him to believe he was a solid player. I also think he's capable of hitting shots, if left open. His strength is certainly his speed and how he puts pressure on the defense.
We could be LOADED in 2012-2013.
It seems like Thomas plays with poor talent frequently. If he was coming up in the city almost any other year, he'd be surrounded by some good players. I wonder what effect it has on his #'s/game. The Gauchos squad he was on last year had to be one of the weakest ever.
That might be why he no longer plays with the Chos.
-
@AdamZagoria Adam Zagoria
St. John's coach Steve Lavin left LeBron for Philly Reebok to check out 2012 pledge Jevon Thomas and uncommitted Kamari Murphy #stjbb
2 minutes ago via web
Is Kamari our back up to Ricardo?
-
@AdamZagoria Adam Zagoria
St. John's coach Steve Lavin left LeBron for Philly Reebok to check out 2012 pledge Jevon Thomas and uncommitted Kamari Murphy #stjbb
2 minutes ago via web
Is Kamari our back up to Ricardo?
Possibly, but I still think we land Gathers when it's all said and done. Not to mention, Murphy's play has seemed to pick up this summer.
-
I like gathers and think we'll land him too, but Murphy is a very nice player as well, longer and taller. Good days ahead when he puts on weight and learns the game a little better.
-
I think Kamari would have been on this coming season's roster if he didn't need to prep.
-
I like gathers and think we'll land him too, but Murphy is a very nice player as well, longer and taller. Good days ahead when he puts on weight and learns the game a little better.
Didnt Dave already say we have Gathers, its just a matter of when-meaning maybe this year? I'll take his word for it, hes rarely wrong. Gathers wil be a Johnny
-
I like gathers and think we'll land him too, but Murphy is a very nice player as well, longer and taller. Good days ahead when he puts on weight and learns the game a little better.
Didnt Dave already say we have Gathers, its just a matter of when-meaning maybe this year? I'll take his word for it, hes rarely wrong. Gathers wil be a Johnny
I still want to hear the kid say it.
-
Anyone know how Jevon Thomas did at the Reebok Camp..?
-
Anyone know how Jevon Thomas did at the Reebok Camp..?
He had some pretty good reviews on the first day of the camp.
-
Also to note Jevon switched AAU teams yet again. He was running with the Shooting Stars this weekend. I caught a brief glimpse of them at the Rumble in the Bronx. They had one huge center and otherwise a bunch of small guards so not sure really whats going on there. He sure jumps AAU teams a lot.
-
Also to note Jevon switched AAU teams yet again. He was running with the Shooting Stars this weekend. I caught a brief glimpse of them at the Rumble in the Bronx. They had one huge center and otherwise a bunch of small guards so not sure really whats going on there. He sure jumps AAU teams a lot.
Probably trying to find some talent...not easy lately in NYC. Not only is the talent down, it is so much more spread out it seems. I'd love to see this kid some how get on that Playaz team with Myles Davis and Kyle Anderson.
If the biggest knock on Thomas right now is his jumper, I think we are in very good shape. His form looks really solid and he always gets his legs underneath him and his feet set...it's just too flat of a shot. Very easily corrected with Rico and Dunlap guiding him next year.
-
Jevon is at the Summer Jam in Wisconsin. See scout update below. Notice the Lincoln HS error:
*St. John’s commit Jevon Thomas is a quick lead guard that can get into the lane. Thomas, a standout at Brooklyn (N.Y.) Lincoln, has had a strong July and is making good decisions with the basketball.
http://scouthoops.scout.com/2/1086707.html (http://scouthoops.scout.com/2/1086707.html)
-
Jevon is at the Summer Jam in Wisconsin. See scout update below. Notice the Lincoln HS error:
*St. John’s commit Jevon Thomas is a quick lead guard that can get into the lane. Thomas, a standout at Brooklyn (N.Y.) Lincoln, has had a strong July and is making good decisions with the basketball.
http://scouthoops.scout.com/2/1086707.html (http://scouthoops.scout.com/2/1086707.html)
Is it error or is it a sign of the future?
-
Is it error or is it a sign of the future?
Both. It's an error on his part if it's a sign of the future.
-
Jevon is at the Summer Jam in Wisconsin. See scout update below. Notice the Lincoln HS error:
*St. John’s commit Jevon Thomas is a quick lead guard that can get into the lane. Thomas, a standout at Brooklyn (N.Y.) Lincoln, has had a strong July and is making good decisions with the basketball.
http://scouthoops.scout.com/2/1086707.html (http://scouthoops.scout.com/2/1086707.html)
Is it error or is it a sign of the future?
It's an error. He'd be ineligible to compete in New York State if he did not physically move, as he began at Thomas Jefferson as a freshman and then moved on to OSNA.
Even if he hadn't played at Thomas Jefferson, even Tiny wouldn't be able to pull off getting a Queens kid to transfer to Lincoln.
-
@NYPost_Brazille
Zach Braziller Jevon Thomas playing great, hitting jumpers, getting into the lane, setting up teammates. #aaubasketball #stjbb
59 minutes ago via UberSocial for BlackBerry
Jevon and Omar playing together. Jevon is back with the Gauchos.
http://twitter.com/# (http://twitter.com/#)!/NYPost_Brazille/status/95231384389558272
-
Brian Snow (Rivals) clowning Thomas, per Twitter.
I would like to congratulate Jevon Thomas on setting a world record for most AAU teams played on in 1 summer from 1 city.. With Gauchos now
http://twitter.com/# (http://twitter.com/#)!/BSnowScout/status/95226645543272449
-
[tweet]http://twitter.com/TheRecruitScoop/status/95262526182408192[/tweet]
.
-
[tweet]http://twitter.com/TheRecruitScoop/status/95262526182408192[/tweet]
.
hopefully Jevon won't have most decommits for a recruit...sigh... 99% chance he'll be a Storm no-go...
looks like Kline broke it - but who knows with him
http://www.therecruitscoop.com/jevon-thomas-decommits-from-st-johns (http://www.therecruitscoop.com/jevon-thomas-decommits-from-st-johns)
-
Not shocked.
-
Not shocked.
Yep - you all were on to this a while ago. You think anybody was in Jevon's head about the possible loss of PT with Kyle at PG?
-
Not shocked.
Yep - you all were on to this a while ago. You think anybody was in Jevon's head about the possible loss of PT with Kyle at PG?
Well I remember he said on twitter a while back that if we recruited another guard, he would decommit.
-
Hopefully Jevon knows something about Kyle's plans that we don't.
-
I thought this would happen as well. Hopefully he finds a place where competition won't limit his plans. Good luck to him. On the other hand, another scholarship open!
-
Hopefully Jevon knows something about Kyle's plans that we don't.
LOL Same thing I was thinking. I guess with the recruitment of Anderson and our heightened interest in Rysheed Jordan (2013 recruit) then he must've envisioned his time being chopped.
Maybe, he re-commits at some point. Honestly, I don't think he will if Anderson comes aboard.
-
I thought this would happen as well. Hopefully he finds a place where competition won't limit his plans. Good luck to him. On the other hand, another scholarship open!
Seton Hall ;)
-
Some quotes from JT's advisor
http://bit.ly/pF2NkB (http://bit.ly/pF2NkB)
-
I thought this would happen as well. Hopefully he finds a place where competition won't limit his plans. Good luck to him. On the other hand, another scholarship open!
Seton Hall ;)
I don't want him to go to a local rival because I thinks he's good. That said, I want kids here who want to compete, not be afraid of competition. Here's a quote which is actuall from John calipari in reference to playing with the best talent in an article where he addressed 5 myths of recruiting. I believe Lavin's approach and selling points are similar philosophically:
"The reality is you want to learn to play with the best players because at every level from here on out, that is what you will be doing. What I have found is that the teams that are a compilation of the best players – and the ones where everyone becomes their brothers’ keepers – are the ones which have the most success both together and individually. That was proven two seasons ago when we became the first program ever to have five first round NBA draft picks. Again this past season, our Final Four team had four players drafted and with those nine NBA Draft picks we were one of the most efficient teams in the country in both offense and defense."
-
Some quotes from JT's advisor
http://bit.ly/pF2NkB (http://bit.ly/pF2NkB)
I dont't think he'll be back and in addition, I don't think Lavin will hold that scholarship while he decides. Evan Daniels said it was a "mutual parting of ways" which is what I certainly believe. The writing has been on the wall for a while, and if it helps us get Kyle Andson, then even better for both Jevon and SJU.
-
amir's mouth is going to get him in trouble this year.
below is his response to jevon decommitting:
Amir_Garrett amir garrett
@TimmyDimas its ok, not like we really lost anything!
-
amir's mouth is going to get him in trouble this year.
below is his response to jevon decommitting:
Amir_Garrett amir garrett
@TimmyDimas its ok, not like we really lost anything!
You know what, I love competitors and he's right even if a bit harsh. He's a kid though. We need more guys like Sir'Dom, Amir and guys who want to be out there to win. Guys that aren't worried about guys afraid of being non-factors. I hope Jevon finds the situation he's looking for where he's the big fish.
-
amir's mouth is going to get him in trouble this year.
below is his response to jevon decommitting:
Amir_Garrett amir garrett
@TimmyDimas its ok, not like we really lost anything!
Very inapproriate. That is why these kids need to be monitored on the internet. No worries! I know Lavin will nip Twitter in the bud once the school year starts.
-
amir's mouth is going to get him in trouble this year.
below is his response to jevon decommitting:
Amir_Garrett amir garrett
@TimmyDimas its ok, not like we really lost anything!
Very inapproriate. That is why these kids need to be monitored on the internet. No worries! I know Lavin will nip Twitter in the bud once the school year starts.
Amir is a kid and a bit gregarious. He bought into the idea of playing with other top talent as his spot and developing a family-like bond with the rest of the team. I think it was Amir just saying "fine, we don't need you anyway". It's harmless.
-
This is all about Kyle.
Jevon is a good kid and I believe he still wants to attend SJU, but I think he wants to see how the Kyle thing plays out and I think he feels that SJU is in real good shape to land Kyle.
Also it is well known Jevon needs some work in the classroom.
-
Jevon was running his mouth about threatening to decommit if St. John's got another guard awhile ago on twitter if I remember correctly. He couldn't stand the thought of competing for time. He's talented, but that kind of attitude is not what Lavin should want to be bringing in here, he can do better.
-
I agree twitter doesn't exactly help these kids but I kind of like Amir's attitude. If I remember correctly Amir actually committed right after Pointer when that would have been the easiest time for him to look elsewhere.
To me that says a lot about Amir's character and the type of guy I can't wait to root for
Maybe as Fordham and others just speculated it's about us being in good shape with Kyle ( God I hope that's true ). I'd still like to have Jevon play for us but not if it means he thinks we just arent going to go after any other guards going forward. If Calipari can do it ( and do it successfully ) why not Lavin
-
Whats with the hate on Jevon? Everyone loved him a week ago and now because he wants to reopen his recruitment everyone is critical of him. The fact is this is one of the most important decisions of his life and he needs to choose wisely. Maybe we are not whats best for him maybe we will be in the future but to jump to conclusions that he is scared of a challenge is unfair. Lets wait to see how this plays out and wish him the best of luck in his future
-
Whats with the hate on Jevon? Everyone loved him a week ago and now because he wants to reopen his recruitment everyone is critical of him. The fact is this is one of the most important decisions of his life and he needs to choose wisely. Maybe we are not whats best for him maybe we will be in the future but to jump to conclusions that he is scared of a challenge is unfair. Lets wait to see how this plays out and wish him the best of luck in his future
It's not a conclusion that is unfounded. He was threatening to de-commit on twitter prior to this if Lavin brought in any more guards. IMO, he isn't coming back and both he and the staff have moved on. Nobody is hating on Jevon. I think that people just want to see kids that want to be here.
-
Whats with the hate on Jevon? Everyone loved him a week ago and now because he wants to reopen his recruitment everyone is critical of him. The fact is this is one of the most important decisions of his life and he needs to choose wisely. Maybe we are not whats best for him maybe we will be in the future but to jump to conclusions that he is scared of a challenge is unfair. Lets wait to see how this plays out and wish him the best of luck in his future
No hate at all for Jevon but the kid said publicly if we recruit another pg he is gone.
I see everyone here wishing Jevon well. The kid is a talent, borderline top 100 at present, but if he believes his commit to SJU will prohibit Lavin from bringing in another pg until he is a senior he is just mistaken. I for one wish him all the best but if he is not sure he wants to be at SJU so be it. He will be replaced IMHO by equal or better talent. I love kids like Sir Dom and Amir, top talent sfs who committed to SJU after Lavin already had commits from top talents Mo and Harkless at the same position. It tells me those kids will bust their asses to get pt at SJU.
-
I like him and if it can be worked out down the road for some reason then I am not against it. Unlikely however.
But his commitment was hindering the recruitment of Kyle. And at this point if it was between him and Kyle I am taking Kyle.
And he tweeted it when SJU recruited NC St transfer Ryan Harrow.
BTW: Evan Daniels of scout says it was mutual.
@EvanDanielscout
Evan Daniels My understanding of the St. Johns/Jevon Thomas news is that it was a mutual parting of ways.
2 hours ago via UberSocial for BlackBerry
http://twitter.com/# (http://twitter.com/#)!/EvanDanielscout/status/95271176758239233
-
Kyle Anderson now can clearly see there's an opening for him, and he seems to be the better get.
-
I was never under the impression that Kyle Anderson was making his decision based on what the 5 schools on his list have at PG, or have coming in at PG. He's a top 10 player, he knows wherever he goes he's playing big minutes. He's too talented not to get on the floor in some capacity.
That being said, the opening is clearly there now for a PG. I guess if Kyle Sr. did have any concerns about Lavin bringing in a PG along with his son, they have been put to rest. No confusion, the PG position is all yours.
-
Amir is a young kid that feels disrespected...no big deal. A lot of our fans feel the same way with the decommitment and I hope Jevon and his handlers understand that when they read the posts or twitter over the next couple of days.
As a fan, I feel a little slighted. I thought of Jevon as part of our team and St. John's family for almost a year. In the end, he has to make the best decision for him. I don't understand why our recruitment of a 6'8 point-forward that can't defend points or 2-guards would cause him decommit when we don't have a single pure pg on our roster, but we shall see how this unfolds. I'd like to see him commit again, but--as always--I trust in Lavin completely.
But damn we need a true point guard to really go places!!!
-
Did UCLA get a commitment from a PG today Domnick Artis?
-
Kyle Anderson now can clearly see there's an opening for him, and he seems to be the better get.
Kyle is a great player no question, but Jevon's speed and handle with the athetlic freaks we have on the wings would have been electric. I saw the two as separate pieces to the puzzle.
-
Did UCLA get a commitment from a PG today Domnick Artis?
Yes. Kiss UCLA goodbye.
-
Amir is a young kid that feels disrespected...no big deal. A lot of our fans feel the same way with the decommitment and I hope Jevon and his handlers understand that when they read the posts or twitter over the next couple of days.
As a fan, I feel a little slighted. I thought of Jevon as part of our team and St. John's family for almost a year. In the end, he has to make the best decision for him. I don't understand why our recruitment of a 6'8 point-forward that can't defend points or 2-guards would cause him decommit when we don't have a single pure pg on our roster, but we shall see how this unfolds. I'd like to see him commit again, but--as always--I trust in Lavin completely.
But damn we need a true point guard to really go places!!!
How far did we go last year with no real point guard.
Add in the fact that the talent we have coming in is leaps and bounds better.
I'm not sweating it.
-
Amir is a young kid that feels disrespected...no big deal. A lot of our fans feel the same way with the decommitment and I hope Jevon and his handlers understand that when they read the posts or twitter over the next couple of days.
As a fan, I feel a little slighted. I thought of Jevon as part of our team and St. John's family for almost a year. In the end, he has to make the best decision for him. I don't understand why our recruitment of a 6'8 point-forward that can't defend points or 2-guards would cause him decommit when we don't have a single pure pg on our roster, but we shall see how this unfolds. I'd like to see him commit again, but--as always--I trust in Lavin completely.
But damn we need a true point guard to really go places!!!
How far did we go last year with no real point guard.
Add in the fact that the talent we have coming in is leaps and bounds better.
I'm not sweating it.
We lost in the first round with an All-American combo guard filling in. With the talent we have, we should be thinking Final Four or better after this season and I don't think we get there without a pure point guard. Look back at the final four over the last 10 years and try to find teams that didn't have a pure point...it's not easy.
-
Amir is a young kid that feels disrespected...no big deal. A lot of our fans feel the same way with the decommitment and I hope Jevon and his handlers understand that when they read the posts or twitter over the next couple of days.
As a fan, I feel a little slighted. I thought of Jevon as part of our team and St. John's family for almost a year. In the end, he has to make the best decision for him. I don't understand why our recruitment of a 6'8 point-forward that can't defend points or 2-guards would cause him decommit when we don't have a single pure pg on our roster, but we shall see how this unfolds. I'd like to see him commit again, but--as always--I trust in Lavin completely.
But damn we need a true point guard to really go places!!!
How far did we go last year with no real point guard.
Add in the fact that the talent we have coming in is leaps and bounds better.
I'm not sweating it.
We lost in the first round with an All-American combo guard filling in. With the talent we have, we should be thinking Final Four or better after this season and I don't think we get there without a pure point guard. Look back at the final four over the last 10 years and try to find teams that didn't have a pure point...it's not easy.
Uconn. I dont think either Kemba nor Napier was a pure PG. It's overrated, and I'd argue that the "pure PG" that you are talking about is primarily an offensive trait, which Anderson has in bunches.
-
Amir is a young kid that feels disrespected...no big deal. A lot of our fans feel the same way with the decommitment and I hope Jevon and his handlers understand that when they read the posts or twitter over the next couple of days.
As a fan, I feel a little slighted. I thought of Jevon as part of our team and St. John's family for almost a year. In the end, he has to make the best decision for him. I don't understand why our recruitment of a 6'8 point-forward that can't defend points or 2-guards would cause him decommit when we don't have a single pure pg on our roster, but we shall see how this unfolds. I'd like to see him commit again, but--as always--I trust in Lavin completely.
But damn we need a true point guard to really go places!!!
How far did we go last year with no real point guard.
Add in the fact that the talent we have coming in is leaps and bounds better.
I'm not sweating it.
We lost in the first round with an All-American combo guard filling in. With the talent we have, we should be thinking Final Four or better after this season and I don't think we get there without a pure point guard. Look back at the final four over the last 10 years and try to find teams that didn't have a pure point...it's not easy.
Uconn. I dont think either Kemba nor Napier was a pure PG. It's overrated, and I'd argue that the "pure PG" that you are talking about is primarily an offensive trait, which Anderson has in bunches.
I've seen Napier play many times even played against him before and to me Napier he is a pure point especially last year with Kemba and Lamb as the scorers
-
Amir is a young kid that feels disrespected...no big deal. A lot of our fans feel the same way with the decommitment and I hope Jevon and his handlers understand that when they read the posts or twitter over the next couple of days.
As a fan, I feel a little slighted. I thought of Jevon as part of our team and St. John's family for almost a year. In the end, he has to make the best decision for him. I don't understand why our recruitment of a 6'8 point-forward that can't defend points or 2-guards would cause him decommit when we don't have a single pure pg on our roster, but we shall see how this unfolds. I'd like to see him commit again, but--as always--I trust in Lavin completely.
But damn we need a true point guard to really go places!!!
How far did we go last year with no real point guard.
Add in the fact that the talent we have coming in is leaps and bounds better.
I'm not sweating it.
We lost in the first round with an All-American combo guard filling in. With the talent we have, we should be thinking Final Four or better after this season and I don't think we get there without a pure point guard. Look back at the final four over the last 10 years and try to find teams that didn't have a pure point...it's not easy.
Uconn. I dont think either Kemba nor Napier was a pure PG. It's overrated, and I'd argue that the "pure PG" that you are talking about is primarily an offensive trait, which Anderson has in bunches.
I couldn't disagree more. Kemba Walker is as pure of a point guard as you will ever find...Napier is as well. Just because a kid can score, doesn't mean he isn't a pure point guard.
Anderson is effective from a number of spots of the floor and as long as he is getting touches, I don't think it matters if he's running the offense from the top of they key or getting touches from the high post.
In fact I think he'd be most dangerous with a pure point like Jevon on the floor with him to vary up the way the team attacks. You could go slo-mo with KA or speed it up with Jevon and move KA around.
That's not to say that we couldn't be deadly with Nuri and Harrison (and possibly Harkless) on the floor together with Anderson. I just think we are a more complete team with an elite PURE POINT GUARD. I don't understand how anyone could disagree with that last statement.
-
Amir is a young kid that feels disrespected...no big deal. A lot of our fans feel the same way with the decommitment and I hope Jevon and his handlers understand that when they read the posts or twitter over the next couple of days.
As a fan, I feel a little slighted. I thought of Jevon as part of our team and St. John's family for almost a year. In the end, he has to make the best decision for him. I don't understand why our recruitment of a 6'8 point-forward that can't defend points or 2-guards would cause him decommit when we don't have a single pure pg on our roster, but we shall see how this unfolds. I'd like to see him commit again, but--as always--I trust in Lavin completely.
But damn we need a true point guard to really go places!!!
How far did we go last year with no real point guard.
Add in the fact that the talent we have coming in is leaps and bounds better.
I'm not sweating it.
We lost in the first round with an All-American combo guard filling in. With the talent we have, we should be thinking Final Four or better after this season and I don't think we get there without a pure point guard. Look back at the final four over the last 10 years and try to find teams that didn't have a pure point...it's not easy.
Def agree with your pure pg assessment. To get over the top, you need that lead point man in order to that top tier and get over the hump when it counts. Especially in college ball where lil guys have such an effect on the game. And in regards to JT's de-commitment, hopefully it's just wanting to look to see whats out there, despite what Scout has reported. He still has St John's on his list and already has a good relationship with the staff after all this time, so we should be on top by default. I think this is a situation similar to Myck Kabongo who also committed real early, as a soph I believe then briefly de-committed, only to re-commit shortly after. He's from Queens and knows how special it would be to play at his hometown school. He probably just feels like he rushed into things. All this not wanting competition junk is garbage. KA I feel is being recruited as a Point-Forward, and I feel that's just to get the kid on campus, but once he gets to school, will play primarily on the wing, while being a guy who makes plays, catches rebounds and pushes the ball, but won't be an exclusive point guard for us. That's why I feel its crucial to get Jevon, who we've had in our plans for almost a year now.
-
Amir is a young kid that feels disrespected...no big deal. A lot of our fans feel the same way with the decommitment and I hope Jevon and his handlers understand that when they read the posts or twitter over the next couple of days.
As a fan, I feel a little slighted. I thought of Jevon as part of our team and St. John's family for almost a year. In the end, he has to make the best decision for him. I don't understand why our recruitment of a 6'8 point-forward that can't defend points or 2-guards would cause him decommit when we don't have a single pure pg on our roster, but we shall see how this unfolds. I'd like to see him commit again, but--as always--I trust in Lavin completely.
But damn we need a true point guard to really go places!!!
How far did we go last year with no real point guard.
Add in the fact that the talent we have coming in is leaps and bounds better.
I'm not sweating it.
We lost in the first round with an All-American combo guard filling in. With the talent we have, we should be thinking Final Four or better after this season and I don't think we get there without a pure point guard. Look back at the final four over the last 10 years and try to find teams that didn't have a pure point...it's not easy.
Def agree with your pure pg assessment. To get over the top, you need that lead point man in order to that top tier and get over the hump when it counts. Especially in college ball where lil guys have such an effect on the game. And in regards to JT's de-commitment, hopefully it's just wanting to look to see whats out there, despite what Scout has reported. He still has St John's on his list and already has a good relationship with the staff after all this time, so we should be on top by default. I think this is a situation similar to Myck Kabongo who also committed real early, as a soph I believe then briefly de-committed, only to re-commit shortly after. He's from Queens and knows how special it would be to play at his hometown school. He probably just feels like he rushed into things. All this not wanting competition junk is garbage. KA I feel is being recruited as a Point-Forward, and I feel that's just to get the kid on campus, but once he gets to school, will play primarily on the wing, while being a guy who makes plays, catches rebounds and pushes the ball, but won't be an exclusive point guard for us. That's why I feel its crucial to get Jevon, who we've had in our plans for almost a year now.
I personally believe it is extremely doubtful that Jevon is still going to be an option, That ship has sailed.
-
what people are forgetting is that KA may NOT choose us, which would put us way behind in the search for a PG. i trust that lavin has a plan.
-
Kemba Walker just had one of the best seasons any point guard has ever had.
How could he not be considered a point guard?
-
Not shocked.
Yep - you all were on to this a while ago. You think anybody was in Jevon's head about the possible loss of PT with Kyle at PG?
Well I remember he said on twitter a while back that if we recruited another guard, he would decommit.
Maybe he's hearing just how good Phil Greene is. ;)
-
Kemba Walker just had one of the best seasons any point guard has ever had.
How could he not be considered a point guard?
That was the argument on what a "pure PG" really is. Kemba was great because of how he took over a game and scored the ball for the most part, not by the way he ran a team. I think the argument is a bit overrated to be truthful. As longnas your PG has the ability to see the court and find open men as well as score, he could be termed a "pure PG"
-
amir's mouth is going to get him in trouble this year.
below is his response to jevon decommitting:
Amir_Garrett amir garrett
@TimmyDimas its ok, not like we really lost anything!
Very inapproriate. That is why these kids need to be monitored on the internet. No worries! I know Lavin will nip Twitter in the bud once the school year starts.
Amir is a kid and a bit gregarious. He bought into the idea of playing with other top talent as his spot and developing a family-like bond with the rest of the team. I think it was Amir just saying "fine, we don't need you anyway". It's harmless.
Disagree. I read it as Amir essentially saying Jevon's a 2013 - he wouldn't have been here for 2 years - it's not like they've really lost anything...
-
I think I remember someone saying that KA might commit during the end of July (or was it the end of the summer?). If this is the case, I am going to go on a hunch and say we will be getting KA in the near future.
-
amir's mouth is going to get him in trouble this year.
below is his response to jevon decommitting:
Amir_Garrett amir garrett
@TimmyDimas its ok, not like we really lost anything!
Very inapproriate. That is why these kids need to be monitored on the internet. No worries! I know Lavin will nip Twitter in the bud once the school year starts.
Amir is a kid and a bit gregarious. He bought into the idea of playing with other top talent as his spot and developing a family-like bond with the rest of the team. I think it was Amir just saying "fine, we don't need you anyway". It's harmless.
Disagree. I read it as Amir essentially saying Jevon's a 2013 - he wouldn't have been here for 2 years - it's not like they've really lost anything...
That's the way I read it. Amir, meant lost anything in terms of this year's class and opportunity to do something.
-
I think I remember someone saying that KA might commit during the end of July (or was it the end of the summer?). If this is the case, I am going to go on a hunch and say we will be getting KA in the near future.
Very well could be right. I doubted he would qualify for 2012 for quite a while now. No biggie either way.
-
Kemba Walker just had one of the best seasons any point guard has ever had.
How could he not be considered a point guard?
That was the argument on what a "pure PG" really is. Kemba was great because of how he took over a game and scored the ball for the most part, not by the way he ran a team. I think the argument is a bit overrated to be truthful. As longnas your PG has the ability to see the court and find open men as well as score, he could be termed a "pure PG"
FWIW - Re: "pure PG"s. In just about every list of the GREATEST College teams of all time, the 1969 UCLA Bruins is in the top 3. Lew Alcindor. Sidney Wicks. Curtis Rowe. Steve Patterson. Lynn Shackleford.
But when you talk about guards, Mike Warren had just graduated, and Lucius Allen was suspened for the entire year (a little cannibus catastrophe). The starting guards on that team were Kenny Heitz and John Vallely. Two years before, Kenny Heitz was a starter on the 1967 national championshiop team. He started at what we'd now call "power forward" (the perimeter forward was long range shooter Lynn Shackleford). And John Vallely, he'd just joined the team as a JC Transfer from Ventura JC. Where he was the teams star small Forward. He essentailly played PG in '69, and parlayed that opportunity into the overall 14th pick in the draft.
Take the best talent. Period.
-
I would like that he commits again.
I expect that he won´t go to UConn, Syracuse or Villanova.
-
Kemba Walker just had one of the best seasons any point guard has ever had.
How could he not be considered a point guard?
That was the argument on what a "pure PG" really is. Kemba was great because of how he took over a game and scored the ball for the most part, not by the way he ran a team. I think the argument is a bit overrated to be truthful. As longnas your PG has the ability to see the court and find open men as well as score, he could be termed a "pure PG"
FWIW - Re: "pure PG"s. In just about every list of the GREATEST College teams of all time, the 1969 UCLA Bruins is in the top 3. Lew Alcindor. Sidney Wicks. Curtis Rowe. Steve Patterson. Lynn Shackleford.
But when you talk about guards, Mike Warren had just graduated, and Lucius Allen was suspened for the entire year (a little cannibus catastrophe). The starting guards on that team were Kenny Heitz and John Vallely. Two years before, Kenny Heitz was a starter on the 1967 national championshiop team. He started at what we'd now call "power forward" (the perimeter forward was long range shooter Lynn Shackleford). And John Vallely, he'd just joined the team as a JC Transfer from Ventura JC. Where he was the teams star small Forward. He essentailly played PG in '69, and parlayed that opportunity into the overall 14th pick in the draft.
Take the best talent. Period.
I agree 100% on taking the best talent period. Case in point, Lavin already offered Jevon's scholarship to PG/SG Katin Reinhardt, rivals#43 out of Mater Dei tonight. Kid looks like a stud combo guard, but from his videos can easily play PG.
-
Kemba Walker just had one of the best seasons any point guard has ever had.
How could he not be considered a point guard?
That was the argument on what a "pure PG" really is. Kemba was great because of how he took over a game and scored the ball for the most part, not by the way he ran a team. I think the argument is a bit overrated to be truthful. As longnas your PG has the ability to see the court and find open men as well as score, he could be termed a "pure PG"
FWIW - Re: "pure PG"s. In just about every list of the GREATEST College teams of all time, the 1969 UCLA Bruins is in the top 3. Lew Alcindor. Sidney Wicks. Curtis Rowe. Steve Patterson. Lynn Shackleford.
But when you talk about guards, Mike Warren had just graduated, and Lucius Allen was suspened for the entire year (a little cannibus catastrophe). The starting guards on that team were Kenny Heitz and John Vallely. Two years before, Kenny Heitz was a starter on the 1967 national championshiop team. He started at what we'd now call "power forward" (the perimeter forward was long range shooter Lynn Shackleford). And John Vallely, he'd just joined the team as a JC Transfer from Ventura JC. Where he was the teams star small Forward. He essentailly played PG in '69, and parlayed that opportunity into the overall 14th pick in the draft.
Take the best talent. Period.
I don't go back as far as you--I was born in the 80's--but I remember 1990 on and from that point you can pick MAYBE two championship teams that arguably didn't have a true point: McNamara for Syracuse and Scheyer for Duke. McNamara had Carmelo Anthony--perhaps the most dominant freshman ever--and Hakim Warrick. Scheyer was clearly not a pure point, but he had a ridiculous basketball IQ and took care of the ball exceptionally well if my memory is correct.
Certainly the game has changed since the days of Alcindor, and I don't think choosing a team with one of the most dominant centers to play the college game is a good guide post.
Just like in the NFL, you need somebody very good QB'ing your team and that is the point guard in basketball. Yeah, I'm sure there are exceptions like Trent Dilfer in football, but it's a pretty safe bet that you need a stud QB if you want to build a championship team.
Will we be good with KA and our current roster? Of course.
Will we be a more complete team if we had an elite pure point guard? It's a no brainer to me.
You could probably go out and kill a deer with a knife, but if I was going on a hunting trip, I'd rather have a gun. I think some of you just want to argue silly points because the summer and Lavin's amazing recruiting is leaving us with few bones to pick after we've developed an appetite for disagreements in the Norm era.
-
But his commitment was hindering the recruitment of Kyle. And at this point if it was between him and Kyle I am taking Kyle.
And he tweeted it when SJU recruited NC St transfer Ryan Harrow.
https://twitter.com/KyleAnderson5/status/73589765097787393
-
I guess with the recruitment of Anderson and our heightened interest in Rysheed Jordan (2013 recruit) then he must've envisioned his time being chopped.
Maybe, he re-commits at some point. Honestly, I don't think he will if Anderson comes aboard.
I think that the interest in Jordan has more influence than the recruitment of Kyle Anderson. When Jevon Thomas committed to us, we were recruiting Anderson and there was a possibility of getting him, too.
We are in Anderson´s final list since May (and with many options). Why didn´t Thomas decommit then? Then there was no offer to Jordan.
-
Just in case this hasn't been posted yet.......from Monday's NY Post
http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/high_school/basketball/dream_on_pg_thomas_decommits_from_E3WnmQyKG3QzUHRstDAgmO (http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/high_school/basketball/dream_on_pg_thomas_decommits_from_E3WnmQyKG3QzUHRstDAgmO)
-
I think I remember someone saying that KA might commit during the end of July (or was it the end of the summer?). If this is the case, I am going to go on a hunch and say we will be getting KA in the near future.
Kyle said he would announce on his b'day in September is what I recall reading - unless I read that about another player.
-
It was KA. He said he would announce on Sept 20, his birthday.
-
I think I remember someone saying that KA might commit during the end of July (or was it the end of the summer?). If this is the case, I am going to go on a hunch and say we will be getting KA in the near future.
Kyle said he would announce on his b'day in September is what I recall reading - unless I read that about another player.
You're correct Kyle said he would announce on his birthday
-
I guess with the recruitment of Anderson and our heightened interest in Rysheed Jordan (2013 recruit) then he must've envisioned his time being chopped.
Maybe, he re-commits at some point. Honestly, I don't think he will if Anderson comes aboard.
I think that the interest in Jordan has more influence than the recruitment of Kyle Anderson. When Jevon Thomas committed to us, we were recruiting Anderson and there was a possibility of getting him, too.
We are in Anderson´s final list since May (and with many options). Why didn´t Thomas decommit then? Then there was no offer to Jordan.
Trust me Kyle's recruitment has an impact on Jevon.
Yes SJU has been recruiting Kyle but they have really climbed the last few weeks to where most think it is between SJU and SHU. Combine that with the fact that SJU has made it clear that Kyle will play point if he comes I think Jevon feels he is getting squeezed out.
-
One thing I've learned quickly is that if you don't want to play for St. John's or don't buy into what Steve Lavin is doing/saying. Lav will move on so quick and chances are to something better.
Jevon was getting a little testy with some things and that's all it took for the option if you want to look elsewhere go ahead... On to the next one...
Jevon Thomas is certainly a very good player, a player I'd want, but not a must get nor a must need. He's replaceable.
-
One thing I've learned quickly is that if you don't want to play for St. John's or don't buy into what Steve Lavin is doing/saying. Lav will move on so quick and chances are to something better.
Jevon was getting a little testy with some things and that's all it took for the option if you want to look elsewhere go ahead... On to the next one...
Jevon Thomas is certainly a very good player, a player I'd want, but not a must get nor a must need. He's replaceable.
100% agree.
-
One thing I've learned quickly is that if you don't want to play for St. John's or don't buy into what Steve Lavin is doing/saying. Lav will move on so quick and chances are to something better.
Jevon was getting a little testy with some things and that's all it took for the option if you want to look elsewhere go ahead... On to the next one...
Jevon Thomas is certainly a very good player, a player I'd want, but not a must get nor a must need. He's replaceable.
Ding ding ding. We have a winner!
-
Is Jevon from BK or Qu?
-
Is Jevon from BK or Qu?
Queens
-
I guess with the recruitment of Anderson and our heightened interest in Rysheed Jordan (2013 recruit) then he must've envisioned his time being chopped.
Maybe, he re-commits at some point. Honestly, I don't think he will if Anderson comes aboard.
I think that the interest in Jordan has more influence than the recruitment of Kyle Anderson. When Jevon Thomas committed to us, we were recruiting Anderson and there was a possibility of getting him, too.
We are in Anderson´s final list since May (and with many options). Why didn´t Thomas decommit then? Then there was no offer to Jordan.
Trust me Kyle's recruitment has an impact on Jevon.
Yes SJU has been recruiting Kyle but they have really climbed the last few weeks to where most think it is between SJU and SHU. Combine that with the fact that SJU has made it clear that Kyle will play point if he comes I think Jevon feels he is getting squeezed out.
That's great news. I didn't realize STJ told Kyle he would play PG. For some reason i was under the impression that PG wasnt a guarantee. Did this happen recently or was this always the case with Kyle?
Thanks in advance.
-
Lavin shall not worship false Gods.
If the kid is already a problem child, let him go play somewhere else.
Lavin is not desperate for any recruit. I love how HE isn't afraid to do the right thing.
-
I guess with the recruitment of Anderson and our heightened interest in Rysheed Jordan (2013 recruit) then he must've envisioned his time being chopped.
Maybe, he re-commits at some point. Honestly, I don't think he will if Anderson comes aboard.
I think that the interest in Jordan has more influence than the recruitment of Kyle Anderson. When Jevon Thomas committed to us, we were recruiting Anderson and there was a possibility of getting him, too.
We are in Anderson´s final list since May (and with many options). Why didn´t Thomas decommit then? Then there was no offer to Jordan.
Trust me Kyle's recruitment has an impact on Jevon.
Yes SJU has been recruiting Kyle but they have really climbed the last few weeks to where most think it is between SJU and SHU. Combine that with the fact that SJU has made it clear that Kyle will play point if he comes I think Jevon feels he is getting squeezed out.
That's great news. I didn't realize STJ told Kyle he would play PG. For some reason i was under the impression that PG wasnt a guarantee. Did this happen recently or was this always the case with Kyle?
Thanks in advance.
Lavin doesn't seem like the guaranteeing type. I think he probably did his typical schpeal about how KA could fit in and how he would be used in a variety of roles surrounded by killer athletes.
-
i haven't seen jevon play...but from the reviews, he's the real deal.
let him check the landscape...but i'd love for him to realize he'll have the best chance at st john's.
-
i haven't seen jevon play...but from the reviews, he's the real deal.
let him check the landscape...but i'd love for him to realize he'll have the best chance at st john's.
Very sad to see him de-commit, but in fairness this will be one of the most important decisions of his life. And if he feels doubt about signing with St. John's at this stage, I can't fault him for wanting to take a step back and reevaluate his options. After taking some visits elsewhere, if he still feels SJU is the best fit for him, then at least he'll extinguish any doubt in his mind about it.
As for the program, it obviously hurts to possibly lose a talent such as Thomas, but the school has to pick up where it left off and keep on trying to acquire the best talent in the country. Perhaps it's a pipe dream, but bringing in two star quality players in Anderson and Gathers could be the final pieces in making a run in the tournament.
-
i haven't seen jevon play...but from the reviews, he's the real deal.
let him check the landscape...but i'd love for him to realize he'll have the best chance at st john's.
Exactly.
-
Lavin is not promising anyone anything and any player who does not want to earn time on a team that will play many different combinations is welcome to look elsewhere.
-
i haven't seen jevon play...but from the reviews, he's the real deal.
let him check the landscape...but i'd love for him to realize he'll have the best chance at st john's.
Very good post.
-
i haven't seen jevon play...but from the reviews, he's the real deal.
let him check the landscape...but i'd love for him to realize he'll have the best chance at st john's.
Very good post.
Good post - agreed. Jevon can be a big contributor here, regardless of how many top players are here - he'll be in good company and assist in getting into the upper 3rd of the Beast and making deep runs in the tourney.
-
i haven't seen jevon play...but from the reviews, he's the real deal.
let him check the landscape...but i'd love for him to realize he'll have the best chance at st john's.
I disagree. He's been hemming and hawing for months now and even threatened to de-commit on twitter if Lavin brought in another guard. In my mind, it is undermining to the head coach to be making threats in a public forum like Twitter. Last thing we need to do is bring kids on board that are making threats to de-commit before they even come on board, and want to de-commit to now find a better situation. I don't have any problem with Jevon doing so, but I don't really want to see us keep the scholarship open for him. I'd rather we move on. It sends a bad message.
The other side of this is that in the crux of the 2012 recruiting season, Jevon is opening things up and leaving Lavin and Co. without a position they thought was locked up. Like I said, I have no problem with Jevon de-committing, but I want to see us move on from the kid and I'm pretty sure Lavin has. I don't think he's going to play that game either, especially a month or two before the fall signing period. We're not in the position where we need him on board any more and like I said, I want to see players that are sure that they want to be here. If he's complaining about us recruiting another guard before he even starts, then he'll be doing it every year that Lavin recruits another guard. Good luck to him. Let's land somebody else. I think it is telling that Lavin offered Katin Reinhardt a few hours later. I'd much rather have Reinhardt.
-
Would hate to see this kid go to UConn!
-
He could be Iona bound after prep and JC :o
-
He could be Iona bound after prep and JC :o
Cluess does love the Jucos. He can backup Momo for a year
-
http://twitter.com/MIDATLANTICHOOP/status/97282045629313024 (http://twitter.com/MIDATLANTICHOOP/status/97282045629313024)
Washington, Virginia Tech, Michigan, Michigan State & St. John's are Class of 2012 6-0/PG Jevon Thomas Favorite Five List.
-
http://twitter.com/MIDATLANTICHOOP/status/97282045629313024 (http://twitter.com/MIDATLANTICHOOP/status/97282045629313024)
Washington, Virginia Tech, Michigan, Michigan State & St. John's are Class of 2012 6-0/PG Jevon Thomas Favorite Five List.
Thats a pretty random list.
-
http://twitter.com/MIDATLANTICHOOP/status/97282045629313024 (http://twitter.com/MIDATLANTICHOOP/status/97282045629313024)
Washington, Virginia Tech, Michigan, Michigan State & St. John's are Class of 2012 6-0/PG Jevon Thomas Favorite Five List.
Thats a pretty random list.
Does he have offers from those schools? Or are those just the schools showin interest since the decommit? I follow VT pretty closely, and there hasn't been any mention of Jevon on their boards....
-
I think if you choose a school to go to, and then change your mind that school should be done with you.
It shows immaturity, a lack of character & straight up fear.
All of which I'm not interested in.
-
I think if you choose a school to go to, and then change your mind that school should be done with you.
It shows immaturity, a lack of character & straight up fear.
All of which I'm not interested in.
Malik Stith committed to St. John´s, then he decommitted and he finally committed again.
And you speak well about Malik in the thread: "For those of you who keep talking about Stith transferring...read this"
http://johnnyjungle.com/forum/index.php?topic=5823.0 (http://johnnyjungle.com/forum/index.php?topic=5823.0)
-
I think if you choose a school to go to, and then change your mind that school should be done with you.
It shows immaturity, a lack of character & straight up fear.
All of which I'm not interested in.
Malik Stith committed to St. John´s, then he decommitted and he finally committed again.
And you speak well about Malik in the thread: "For those of you who keep talking about Stith transferring...read this"
http://johnnyjungle.com/forum/index.php?topic=5823.0 (http://johnnyjungle.com/forum/index.php?topic=5823.0)
Agreed no need to rush a decision if he is not 100%. If we are the right place for him i'd welcome him back with open arms but I wouldnt wait on him
-
There is a possibility that he will prep for a year. In that case he could be a nice 2013 recruit
-
There is a possibility that he will prep for a year. In that case he could be a nice 2013 recruit
Rysheed Jordan, 6'4" PG out of Philly, is the focus of this staff at the guard position for the 2013 class.
-
Yes, I like Stith. But make no mistake about it, I don't like what he pulled.
It's childish. And let's be clear, that was a different time.
Norm Roberts instilled confidence in no one.
A borderline top 100 kid gets a chance to come here and play, and he throws it back in Lavin's face because he's afraid the job won't be handed to him on a platter. Yes, that pisses me off. Look elsewhere. Send a message.
We're done kissing the asses of 16 year old kids. Good luck at Umass.
-
Yes, I like Stith. But make no mistake about it, I don't like what he pulled.
It's childish. And let's be clear, that was a different time.
Norm Roberts instilled confidence in no one.
A borderline top 100 kid gets a chance to come here and play, and he throws it back in Lavin's face because he's afraid the job won't be handed to him on a platter. Yes, that pisses me off. Look elsewhere. Send a message.
We're done kissing the asses of 16 year old kids. Good luck at Umass.
Easy now! Yes, most of us do not cotton to recruits backing off, but afterall they are only 16-18 years of age.
Apparently, Jevon is worried about playing time when KA comes on board. I would too, if I were in Jevon's spot. Jevon is out for himself, and there is nothing wrong with that.
However, Coach Lavin is out to field the best darn BB team in the country. So Jevon, look at our roster now and what it will be in a few weeks. They could have made you look real good and allowed you to make a run for the top assists position in the NCAA. The Team always comes first in big time college BB.
Coach will always try to bring in the best talent each year. That is his job.
So maybe it is better that Jevon leave us now rather than pout during his freshman year with KA leading us.
-
Jevon didn't really stick out at all. He was similar to about 9 other PGs at camp. He is definitely good but replaceable.
-
Per NBE Basketball....
Jevon Thomas (New York Gauchos/2012) – Recently de-committed from St. John’s, Thomas took to the floor with the Gauchos today and while the team struggled as a whole he was very efficient offensively. Thomas is a blur with the ball in his hands and his coast to coast speed fueled the breakneck pace at which the Gauchos like to play. He finished plays both at the rim and by pulling up for mid range jump shots but didn’t show range past 16 feet. He needs to continue improving the range on that jumper to keep defenders from constantly going under screens at the next level but otherwise Thomas easily looks the part of a high-major point guard.
http://www.nbebasketball.com/w3/2011-0801/hoop-group-end-of-summer-classic-rundown-17u-edition/ (http://www.nbebasketball.com/w3/2011-0801/hoop-group-end-of-summer-classic-rundown-17u-edition/)
-
According to Zags Jevon is now saying he wants to leave NY and his only two offers are Towson and Penn St.
-
According to Zags Jevon is now saying he wants to leave NY and his only two offers are Towson and Penn St.
Wow. Maybe he'll be hearing from Jared Grasso soon
-
Seton Hall offered 2012 PG Jevon Thomas, a onetime #stjbb commit. He visited SHU today. ... Per Zags
-
Seton Hall offered 2012 PG Jevon Thomas, a onetime #stjbb commit. He visited SHU today. ... Per Zags
Interesting. Some took Jevon leaving as a measuring stick on Kyle Anderson coming. And now his biggest "offer" is another one of Kyle's "final 5".....
-
Seton Hall offered 2012 PG Jevon Thomas, a onetime #stjbb commit. He visited SHU today. ... Per Zags
Maybe SHU senses the writing on the wall.. ;)
-
Thomas needs to take that offer.
-
The zags article also says that Jevon is transferring to Quality Education. Baldi didn't you call that one awhile back....
-
The zags article also says that Jevon is transferring to Quality Education. Baldi didn't you call that one awhile back....
I know I did. Baldi just loves the word 'qualitized'
-
The zags article also says that Jevon is transferring to Quality Education. Baldi didn't you call that one awhile back....
But is he going there for a quality education? My sense is that the kid did not pan out to be as good as advertised. If he were, there would be plenty more interest then he is getting... SHU is in desperation mode.
-
The zags article also says that Jevon is transferring to Quality Education. Baldi didn't you call that one awhile back....
But is he going there for a quality education? My sense is that the kid did not pan out to be as good as advertised. If he were, there would be plenty more interest then he is getting... SHU is in desperation mode.
He is very good and i don't see this as a sign of desperation for the Hall. They are covering there bases in case Kyle does not go there. I do know that they are still in this race despite what others have posted.
-
The zags article also says that Jevon is transferring to Quality Education. Baldi didn't you call that one awhile back....
I know I did. Baldi just loves the word 'qualitized'
Ya, I called this awhile back, but it was obvious a that time of the discussion. Moose was riding my coattails
-
The zags article also says that Jevon is transferring to Quality Education. Baldi didn't you call that one awhile back....
I know I did. Baldi just loves the word 'qualitized'
Ya, I called this awhile back, but it was obvious a that time of the discussion. Moose was riding my coattails
Really?
Check this out. Page 8 of Dom Pointer thread- http://johnnyjungle.com/forum/index.php?topic=4657.140 (http://johnnyjungle.com/forum/index.php?topic=4657.140)
I wrote- Anyone notice this quote from the article-
"I've got a really good guard from New York who I can't tell you about yet coming next year," he says. "We had to turn some down."
With Jevon and his academic issues, am I the only one to think that he might be the one?
Dave then responded with Mike Taylor? Looks like I was right Baldi. Give credit where its due.
-
The zags article also says that Jevon is transferring to Quality Education. Baldi didn't you call that one awhile back....
Unlikely he ends up at SHU. The QEA transfer communicates that.
BTW-I know SJU got a great player in Pointer but for my taste I prefer they no longer associate themselves with QEA fwiw.
-
I'm not going to pretend I know anything about this kid, but the more I read and see, the happier I am he de-committed. Another poster said it, he just expects this one spot on the floor to be handed to him? I don't want to insult anyone, but he sounds kind of like a flake. Whatever happened to earning your spot in the starting 5?
-
IMO It would be a very good grab for Willard if he lands Thomas after Anderson commits to SJU.
hes no longer a caliber kid that is good enough to run things at SJU, with us now becoming a program that only accepts elite level talent, but for SHU he would be a great get and could be productive for them down the road.
-
Sounds like he was killing it today at the Battle of the Boroughs.
-
IMO It would be a very good grab for Willard if he lands Thomas after Anderson commits to SJU.
hes no longer a caliber kid that is good enough to run things at SJU, with us now becoming a program that only accepts elite level talent, but for SHU he would be a great get and could be productive for them down the road.
Boy, really don't like the "only accepts elite level talent" mindset that seems to be creeping in here. That effectively eliminates Steve from finding the next Billy Knight, Ryan Hollins, Rico Hines, or even Matt Barnes. As always excuse my UCLA references, but you've always gotta be on the lookoout for the next Luc Richard Mbah a Moute, Darren Collison, Ryan Hollins or Mike Roll (in the 2006 NCAA Title game, Luc and Hollins were starters, Collison was the 6th man and Roll the 7th - 4 of the top 7 players were "non-elite talent").
Trust your coaches. If they think Phil Greene and Darrick Wood are a potential future Big East backcourt, then bring'em on!
-
IMO It would be a very good grab for Willard if he lands Thomas after Anderson commits to SJU.
hes no longer a caliber kid that is good enough to run things at SJU, with us now becoming a program that only accepts elite level talent, but for SHU he would be a great get and could be productive for them down the road.
Boy, really don't like the "only accepts elite level talent" mindset that seems to be creeping in here. That effectively eliminates Steve from finding the next Billy Knight, Ryan Hollins, Rico Hines, or even Matt Barnes. As always excuse my UCLA references, but you've always gotta be on the lookoout for the next Luc Richard Mbah a Moute, Darren Collison, Ryan Hollins or Mike Roll (in the 2006 NCAA Title game, Luc and Hollins were starters, Collison was the 6th man and Roll the 7th - 4 of the top 7 players were "non-elite talent").
Trust your coaches. If they think Phil Greene and Darrick Wood are a potential future Big East backcourt, then bring'em on!
I see your point, but the position of point guard in particular is one i would rather see a elite talent only approach. Can see developing a talented but raw big man "project", but PG should always be elite if possible
-
IMO It would be a very good grab for Willard if he lands Thomas after Anderson commits to SJU.
hes no longer a caliber kid that is good enough to run things at SJU, with us now becoming a program that only accepts elite level talent, but for SHU he would be a great get and could be productive for them down the road.
Boy, really don't like the "only accepts elite level talent" mindset that seems to be creeping in here. That effectively eliminates Steve from finding the next Billy Knight, Ryan Hollins, Rico Hines, or even Matt Barnes. As always excuse my UCLA references, but you've always gotta be on the lookoout for the next Luc Richard Mbah a Moute, Darren Collison, Ryan Hollins or Mike Roll (in the 2006 NCAA Title game, Luc and Hollins were starters, Collison was the 6th man and Roll the 7th - 4 of the top 7 players were "non-elite talent").
Trust your coaches. If they think Phil Greene and Darrick Wood are a potential future Big East backcourt, then bring'em on!
Agree with cr. Only thing I didn't like with Jevon was that he decommitted and didn't buy in. Once you're out, you're out IMO, I want guys on the team that are sure they want to be here. Guys like Wood who buy in, even knowing the talent possibly in front of him on the roster. Those guys are winners. As good as Jevon is or isn't, I don't want guys here that are not comfortable with their potential role. It can be a chemistry killer down the line. Very happy to have Darrick Wood instead of Jevon no matter how well he is playing. I wish him luck at a place that better suits him.
-
IMO It would be a very good grab for Willard if he lands Thomas after Anderson commits to SJU.
hes no longer a caliber kid that is good enough to run things at SJU, with us now becoming a program that only accepts elite level talent, but for SHU he would be a great get and could be productive for them down the road.
Boy, really don't like the "only accepts elite level talent" mindset that seems to be creeping in here. That effectively eliminates Steve from finding the next Billy Knight, Ryan Hollins, Rico Hines, or even Matt Barnes. As always excuse my UCLA references, but you've always gotta be on the lookoout for the next Luc Richard Mbah a Moute, Darren Collison, Ryan Hollins or Mike Roll (in the 2006 NCAA Title game, Luc and Hollins were starters, Collison was the 6th man and Roll the 7th - 4 of the top 7 players were "non-elite talent").
Trust your coaches. If they think Phil Greene and Darrick Wood are a potential future Big East backcourt, then bring'em on!
I see your point, but the position of point guard in particular is one i would rather see a elite talent only approach. Can see developing a talented but raw big man "project", but PG should always be elite if possible
So if Steve spots his next Earl Watson, you want him to PASS???? :)
-
IMO It would be a very good grab for Willard if he lands Thomas after Anderson commits to SJU.
hes no longer a caliber kid that is good enough to run things at SJU, with us now becoming a program that only accepts elite level talent, but for SHU he would be a great get and could be productive for them down the road.
Boy, really don't like the "only accepts elite level talent" mindset that seems to be creeping in here. That effectively eliminates Steve from finding the next Billy Knight, Ryan Hollins, Rico Hines, or even Matt Barnes. As always excuse my UCLA references, but you've always gotta be on the lookoout for the next Luc Richard Mbah a Moute, Darren Collison, Ryan Hollins or Mike Roll (in the 2006 NCAA Title game, Luc and Hollins were starters, Collison was the 6th man and Roll the 7th - 4 of the top 7 players were "non-elite talent").
Trust your coaches. If they think Phil Greene and Darrick Wood are a potential future Big East backcourt, then bring'em on!
Agree with cr. Only thing I didn't like with Jevon was that he decommitted and didn't buy in. Once you're out, you're out IMO, I want guys on the team that are sure they want to be here. Guys like Wood who buy in, even knowing the talent possibly in front of him on the roster. Those guys are winners. As good as Jevon is or isn't, I don't want guys here that are not comfortable with their potential role. It can be a chemistry killer down the line. Very happy to have Darrick Wood instead of Jevon no matter how well he is playing. I wish him luck at a place that better suits him.
I'd go even one farther. I'd much prefer a kid like Earl Watson, who Steve brought in in the same Class with the much higher ranked Baron Davis, Schea Cotton, and Billy Knight, to a team that had a returning starting SG STAR in Toby Bailey. Earl's approach? I don't care about rankings or seniority. I'm starting. Toby can move to forward. And that's exactly what happened. Earl started every game for 4 seasons.
-
Like I said previously, I have no idea what kind of kid he is, but as MCNPA said in one of his previous posts, I don't want a me-type player. You can be, "oh, I'ma get mines," all you want, but if you ain't in it to win, first and foremost, and, especially at the point, to help make your team better, and if you not being the "man" is what gets your team over the hump, then you know what? Accept that, play a role on the team, and if you step up, you step up and get in the starting 5, then great. Otherwise, bust your ass if you want to be the "man" and outplay the guy in front of you. Especially, when you're playing the one.
-
IMO It would be a very good grab for Willard if he lands Thomas after Anderson commits to SJU.
hes no longer a caliber kid that is good enough to run things at SJU, with us now becoming a program that only accepts elite level talent, but for SHU he would be a great get and could be productive for them down the road.
Boy, really don't like the "only accepts elite level talent" mindset that seems to be creeping in here. That effectively eliminates Steve from finding the next Billy Knight, Ryan Hollins, Rico Hines, or even Matt Barnes. As always excuse my UCLA references, but you've always gotta be on the lookoout for the next Luc Richard Mbah a Moute, Darren Collison, Ryan Hollins or Mike Roll (in the 2006 NCAA Title game, Luc and Hollins were starters, Collison was the 6th man and Roll the 7th - 4 of the top 7 players were "non-elite talent").
Trust your coaches. If they think Phil Greene and Darrick Wood are a potential future Big East backcourt, then bring'em on!
+1000
-
It speaks volumes that Lavin stayed on Greene for an entire year even after his coach at IMG forbid him from making visits until the spring and evenafter Lav added Harrisson, Nuri, and even Thomas.
It is probably no coincidence that Jevon's Decommittment coincides with Greene's arrival to campus.
-
Thomas' de-commitment had more to do with Thomas than anyone else being here. His personality and baggage might not be the best fit and we'll leave it at that.
-
Thomas' de-commitment had more to do with Thomas than anyone else being here. His personality and baggage might not be the best fit and we'll leave it at that.
Regardless of what the issue is, one could tell that he didn't have the right attitude for this team. One could tell from his twitter threats. Don't need guys like that who are questioning the coaches recruiting decisions a year before he steps on campus. Don't want anything to do with him at SJU, and doubt Lavin does either after his de-commit. I think it was telling that we offered Reinhardt a few hours after Jevon de-committed. Good luck to him. We need team players at SJU who buy into what the staff is doing. Having malcontents coming in is a bad fit no matter what.
-
Looks like Jevon verbaled to Dayton.
-
Looks like Jevon verbaled to Dayton.
Wow. Very surprising.
-
Archie Miller aint no joke and neither is Dayton.
-
Archie Miller aint no joke and neither is Dayton.
Agreed.
I think it is a good fit. He was not going to Seton Hall fwiw. There is a reason he left the area and landed at QEA.
-
Good luck to the kid. I don't know why he decided to back out of his commitment, but hopefully this works out for him. Dayton has a legit program. Still would have liked to see him here.
-
Good luck to the kid. I don't know why he decided to back out of his commitment, but hopefully this works out for him. Dayton has a legit program. Still would have liked to see him here.
Mutually agreed upon change.
-
Attended UD School of Law so will continue to follow Jevon as much as possible and wish him and the Flyers much success. Attended from 78 to 81 when their star was 6'4" Roosevelt Chapman from NYC's Westinghouse HS.
-
Good luck to the young man but how do you commit to a school you have never visited.
-
Good luck to the young man but how do you commit to a school you have never visited.
I think a phone call or email would do the trick.
Kidding aside - if he likes the coaches, likes what they're selling, why not? (Though I thought he visited the school at some point.) Schools are a lot the same. Facilities, classes, girls. It's the coaches who make the difference in most cases, though the facilities can indicate a financial commitment. And if a player is really concerned with academics, he's trying for Northwestern and Stanford. Jevon Thomas, at this point, is not that guy.
-
Attended UD School of Law so will continue to follow Jevon as much as possible and wish him and the Flyers much success. Attended from 78 to 81 when their star was 6'4" Roosevelt Chapman from NYC's Westinghouse HS.
Several years before that was Glinder Torain. Sound familiar ? Or how about Easy Ed Vincent.
-
I wish we still had this kid. Best of luck Jevon!! Dayton is no joke.
-
Good luck to the young man but how do you commit to a school you have never visited.
How much time do you think he'll spend on campus? Other than practice of course
-
I have never been to Dayton so its hard to tell but since Jevon has never been there to begin with, he will probably want to explore the local area a little bit.
-
Attended UD School of Law so will continue to follow Jevon as much as possible and wish him and the Flyers much success. Attended from 78 to 81 when their star was 6'4" Roosevelt Chapman from NYC's Westinghouse HS.
Several years before that was Glinder Torain. Sound familiar ? Or how about Easy Ed Vincent.
Not familiar with those guys but right before I got there they had Jim Paxson. Before that I remember Donnie May who went on to play for the Knicks.
-
Living in the Dayton area there are pluses and minuses. Dayton itself is a hole...sorry but it is. I taught there and have visited numerous times. The areas around Dayton are a different story. The variety of things to do between Dayton and Cinci is incredible. You can hit a nightclub environment, drive up the road about 7 miles and be at a rodeo (I know an unlikely stop - its just an example) or hit fine dining and malls in between the two. The fans are fiercely loyal so he will have a fun playing atmosphere and the arena is beautiful. Our high school team made regionals 3 straight years and so we got to play down there. I wish him luck though I hate that he chose UD over SJU.
-
Maybe next year we get to play Javon in the Charleston classic.
-
Maybe next year we get to play Javon in the Charleston classic.
Maybe Jevon will get eligible next yr?
-
Maybe next year we get to play Javon in the Charleston classic.
Would love it-ungergrad St J law school-UD. Am definitely heading down there with my time share. Don't worry-will be rooting hard for Johnnies-Flyers I prefer when they win but far from live and die with them like I do with Johnnies.
-
Kid will be 30 by the time he gets to college.
“@SteveKellerNRR: Javon Thomas is going to Quality Education in NC & reclass to 2013. PG is athletic & best going to basket. Settling in as good Mid DI.”
-
Kid will be 30 by the time he gets to college.
“@SteveKellerNRR: Javon Thomas is going to Quality Education in NC & reclass to 2013. PG is athletic & best going to basket. Settling in as good Mid DI.”
"Going to?" Does he mean he is currently going there or going there next year? If so where was he this year?
-
Kid will be 30 by the time he gets to college.
“@SteveKellerNRR: Javon Thomas is going to Quality Education in NC & reclass to 2013. PG is athletic & best going to basket. Settling in as good Mid DI.”
"Going to?" Does he mean he is currently going there or going there next year? If so where was he this year?
I think key part is reclassifying. Maybe I missed that, but is news to me. Mid major comment confirms what a lot of folks have said.
-
Kid will be 30 by the time he gets to college.
“@SteveKellerNRR: Javon Thomas is going to Quality Education in NC & reclass to 2013. PG is athletic & best going to basket. Settling in as good Mid DI.”
"Going to?" Does he mean he is currently going there or going there next year? If so where was he this year?
I think key part is reclassifying. Maybe I missed that, but is news to me. Mid major comment confirms what a lot of folks have said.
Always knew he would be long shot for 12. I'm just curious where he was this past year.
-
It appears he was at NC Quality Ed. this year.
-
2nd time this kid has reclassified, if he gets his act together wouldn't mind taking a stab at him, he hasn't peaked yet. He's getting stronger and smarter every time I see him.
-
2nd time this kid has reclassified, if he gets his act together wouldn't mind taking a stab at him, he hasn't peaked yet. He's getting stronger and smarter every time I see him.
This reclassyfying stuff is getting absurd
-
2nd time this kid has reclassified, if he gets his act together wouldn't mind taking a stab at him, he hasn't peaked yet. He's getting stronger and smarter every time I see him.
This reclassyfying stuff is getting asurd
supporting quotes Baldi
“@DaveTelep: Instead of reclassing, maybe stay home, skip AAU and improve your grades? Radical, I know.”
“@DaveTelep: Would like kids to think about this: at what point is being almost 19 but playing in the 17 and under division sort of embarrassing?”
-
2nd time this kid has reclassified, if he gets his act together wouldn't mind taking a stab at him, he hasn't peaked yet. He's getting stronger and smarter every time I see him.
This reclassyfying stuff is getting asurd
supporting quotes Baldi
“@DaveTelep: Instead of reclassing, maybe stay home, skip AAU and improve your grades? Radical, I know.”
“@DaveTelep: Would like kids to think about this: at what point is being almost 19 but playing in the 17 and under division sort of embarrassing?”
Isn't that what Jevon did last year? I thought he skipped all summer.
-
At this rate, I will be coaching Jevon Thomas in my intramural league next year
-
Remember when people were killing staff when "Jevon decommitted from St. John's"
-
Remember when people were killing staff when "Jevon decommitted from St. John's"
Not too hard to remember because there were posters listing him in their anti-Lavin rants less than a month ago.
-
He's got a learning disability, he was never going to make it for 2012.
-
He's got a learning disability, he was never going to make it for 2013.
Thank you.
And funny how this practice is always done in fball and the outrage from recruitin sites aint there.
Hells, its done in Country Club communities where moms and pops want lil Johnny to be taller, stronger, smarter than his peers so he start 1st grade when he 7.
-
Remember when people were killing staff when "Jevon decommitted from St. John's"
I was not one of them and staff should not be "killed" for his decommit but without committing board suicide is it not to harsh to ask just who accepted his commitment in the first place. Should be hearing from the sycophants any moment now.
-
Remember when people were killing staff when "Jevon decommitted from St. John's"
I was not one of them and staff should not be "killed" for his decommit but without committing board suicide is it not to harsh to ask just who accepted his commitment in the first place. Should be hearing from the sycophants any moment now.
I thought it was Norm, but maybe my memory is going.
-
Remember when people were killing staff when "Jevon decommitted from St. John's"
I was not one of them and staff should not be "killed" for his decommit but without committing board suicide is it not to harsh to ask just who accepted his commitment in the first place. Should be hearing from the sycophants any moment now.
I thought it was Norm, but maybe my memory is going.
Jevon was Lavin recruit not Norm.
-
He's got a learning disability, he was never going to make it for 2013.
Thank you.
And funny how this practice is always done in fball and the outrage from recruitin sites aint there.
Hells, its done in Country Club communities where moms and pops want lil Johnny to be taller, stronger, smarter than his peers so he start 1st grade when he 7.
I think there is a difference between the two.
I am born in August, I was a late bloomer grew 12" between the summer of my soph and junior year. I would have greatly benefitted athletically staying an extra year. Ultimately I chose my brain over my braun but I probably could have squeeze out some better offers with an extra year.
Not to say Jevon couldn't reap some of those same benefits from gaining an extra year to get stronger and better. The difference is that Jevon never could make it in the classroom. If he has a disability thats certainly unfortunate. I won't go into detail about his academic record but there are certain things he can control and do better by himself. Like anyone I root for him to succeed.
Down to business...
St. John's backed off Thomas and many people saw it as Thomas backing out of St. John's and people were quick to judge Lavin & co about their ability to recruit. 1. Thomas was never going to qualify 2. He wasn't showing improvement on the court either. Thomas isn't a loss to the program.
-
He's got a learning disability, he was never going to make it for 2013.
Thank you.
And funny how this practice is always done in fball and the outrage from recruitin sites aint there.
Hells, its done in Country Club communities where moms and pops want lil Johnny to be taller, stronger, smarter than his peers so he start 1st grade when he 7.
I think there is a difference between the two.
I am born in August, I was a late bloomer grew 12" between the summer of my soph and junior year. I would have greatly benefitted athletically staying an extra year. Ultimately I chose my brain over my braun but I probably could have squeeze out some better offers with an extra year.
Not to say Jevon couldn't reap some of those same benefits from gaining an extra year to get stronger and better. The difference is that Jevon never could make it in the classroom. If he has a disability thats certainly unfortunate. I won't go into detail about his academic record but there are certain things he can control and do better by himself. Like anyone I root for him to succeed.
Down to business...
St. John's backed off Thomas and many people saw it as Thomas backing out of St. John's and people were quick to judge Lavin & co about their ability to recruit. 1. Thomas was never going to qualify 2. He wasn't showing improvement on the court either. Thomas isn't a loss to the program.
+1
-
He's got a learning disability, he was never going to make it for 2013.
Thank you.
And funny how this practice is always done in fball and the outrage from recruitin sites aint there.
Hells, its done in Country Club communities where moms and pops want lil Johnny to be taller, stronger, smarter than his peers so he start 1st grade when he 7.
I think there is a difference between the two.
I am born in August, I was a late bloomer grew 12" between the summer of my soph and junior year. I would have greatly benefitted athletically staying an extra year. Ultimately I chose my brain over my braun but I probably could have squeeze out some better offers with an extra year.
Not to say Jevon couldn't reap some of those same benefits from gaining an extra year to get stronger and better. The difference is that Jevon never could make it in the classroom. If he has a disability thats certainly unfortunate. I won't go into detail about his academic record but there are certain things he can control and do better by himself. Like anyone I root for him to succeed.
Down to business...
St. John's backed off Thomas and many people saw it as Thomas backing out of St. John's and people were quick to judge Lavin & co about their ability to recruit. 1. Thomas was never going to qualify 2. He wasn't showing improvement on the court either. Thomas isn't a loss to the program.
Actually I would consider backing off a recruit that you have already accepted a verbal commitment from as a poorer reflection on the staff than a kid being the one who backs out of his commitment.
-
He's got a learning disability, he was never going to make it for 2013.
Thank you.
And funny how this practice is always done in fball and the outrage from recruitin sites aint there.
Hells, its done in Country Club communities where moms and pops want lil Johnny to be taller, stronger, smarter than his peers so he start 1st grade when he 7.
I think there is a difference between the two.
I am born in August, I was a late bloomer grew 12" between the summer of my soph and junior year. I would have greatly benefitted athletically staying an extra year. Ultimately I chose my brain over my braun but I probably could have squeeze out some better offers with an extra year.
Not to say Jevon couldn't reap some of those same benefits from gaining an extra year to get stronger and better. The difference is that Jevon never could make it in the classroom. If he has a disability thats certainly unfortunate. I won't go into detail about his academic record but there are certain things he can control and do better by himself. Like anyone I root for him to succeed.
Down to business...
St. John's backed off Thomas and many people saw it as Thomas backing out of St. John's and people were quick to judge Lavin & co about their ability to recruit. 1. Thomas was never going to qualify 2. He wasn't showing improvement on the court either. Thomas isn't a loss to the program.
Actually I would consider backing off a recruit that you have already accepted a verbal commitment from as a poorer reflection on the staff than a kid being the one who backs out of his commitment.
Depends if you knew he wasn't going to qualify
-
Agree Moose.
-
“@NYPost_Brazille: Correction: Jevon Thomas will graduate from Quality Education this spring and then pick a prep school. #boyshoops”
-
“@NYPost_Brazille: Correction: Jevon Thomas will graduate from Quality Education this spring and then pick a prep school. #boyshoops”
I predict that he spends two years at a prep school and then goes to a juco anyway.
-
“@NYPost_Brazille: Correction: Jevon Thomas will graduate from Quality Education this spring and then pick a prep school. #boyshoops”
I predict that he spends two years at a prep school and then goes to a juco anyway.
Iona?
-
He can backup Sledge
-
“@NYPost_Brazille: Dayton and Queens PG Jevon Thomas have decided to go their separate ways, per a source. #boyshoops”
-
“@NYPost_Brazille: Dayton and Queens PG Jevon Thomas have decided to go their separate ways, per a source. #boyshoops”
North Ave here I come.
-
“@NYPost_Brazille: Dayton and Queens PG Jevon Thomas have decided to go their separate ways, per a source. #boyshoops”
North Ave here I come.
LOL. Point guard U
-
“@NYPost_Brazille: Dayton and Queens PG Jevon Thomas have decided to go their separate ways, per a source. #boyshoops”
North Ave here I come.
Not a bad fit.
-
“@NYPost_Brazille: Dayton and Queens PG Jevon Thomas have decided to go their separate ways, per a source. #boyshoops”
North Ave here I come.
Not a bad fit.
Agreed. In Cluess system it would be a great one. (FYI- Baldi did not take over my account)
-
He still has to get eligible and thru Clearinghouse. Only reason he committed to Dayton was to appease his coach and because A-10 takes partial qualifiers.
-
Can we add a 2017 Class page so we can move this thread to the proper location?
-
“@TeamMeloBball: #TeamMeloNEWS...2013 6-1/PG Jevon Thomas will be attending St. John's North West Military Academy in Delafield, Wisconsin for Prep year.”
-
“@TeamMeloBball: #TeamMeloNEWS...2013 6-1/PG Jevon Thomas will be attending St. John's North West Military Academy in Delafield, Wisconsin for Prep year.”
Same prep school as Phil Nolan.
-
“@NYPost_Brazille: Well-traveled former St. John's recruit Thomas matured, looking for new home - http://t.co/CqYJncKR (http://t.co/CqYJncKR) http://t.co/EZjxEikc (http://t.co/EZjxEikc) via @NYP_Sports”
-
“@NYPost_Brazille: Well-traveled former St. John's recruit Thomas matured, looking for new home - http://t.co/CqYJncKR (http://t.co/CqYJncKR) http://t.co/EZjxEikc (http://t.co/EZjxEikc) via @NYP_Sports”
"I know how to read coaches now"... -jevon
Yeah, sounds like he has matured... ::)
-
I wouldn't recruit him if I was even the lowest of D1's. It was very smart for St. John's to distance themselves.
-
I wouldn't recruit him if I was even the lowest of D1's. It was very smart for St. John's to distance themselves.
Ooof
-
Heard he transfered to St. John's Military Academy in Wisconsin.... might be nest thing to ever happen to the kid...
-
Heard he transfered to St. John's Military Academy in Wisconsin.... might be nest thing to ever happen to the kid...
That was mentioned earlier.
I hear a certain Big East school from South Orange is making another push at this kid.
-
I hear a certain Big East school from South Orange is making another push at this kid.
If you heard it, it must be true...
-
I hear a certain Big East school from South Orange is making another push at this kid.
If you heard it, it must be true...
Well it is not like I heard it, posted it and then go back 3 posts in the same thread and realize it was already posted for several months.
But if this is the type of posts I can expect from you then I can certainly oblige.
-
Like I said - if you heard it, it must be true. You are the guru of all things college basketball after all.
-
arturas karnisovas is not walkin thru that door.
-Ricky P
-
Like I said - if you heard it, it must be true. You are the guru of all things college basketball after all.
And you're not so why would anyone take you seriously whether it is about me or not?
The answer is nobody does so I am not sure why you would make such an assertion.
-
And you're not so why would anyone take you seriously whether it is about me or not?
The answer is nobody does so I am not sure why you would make such an assertion.
If you say no one takes me seriously then of course its true, you are the ALL KNOWING FORDHAM..
Have a nice day..!!
-
And you're not so why would anyone take you seriously whether it is about me or not?
The answer is nobody does so I am not sure why you would make such an assertion.
If you say no one takes me seriously then of course its true, you are the ALL KNOWING FORDHAM..
Have a nice day..!!
If you say it is a nice day then I guess that makes it true for the All-Knowing PMG....
-
If you say it is a nice day then I guess that makes it true for the All-Knowing PMG....
If you say I am all knowing, it must be true then...
-
Ok guys this really was never funny. Please stop spamming the boards.
-
If you say it is a nice day then I guess that makes it true for the All-Knowing PMG....
If you say I am all knowing, it must be true then...
Agreed. That is why Ben Howland is not the coach of UCLA right now because you said so.
I don't understand your issue with that or with me.
-
Ok guys this really was never funny. Please stop spamming the boards.
Be clear on this. He is quite frankly stalking me.
More importantly he clearly does not like it when he is either wrong or quite frankly caught being totally dishonest nor does he like it when someone spots a ridiculous pattern in his posting (such as posting every 5 minutes about whether a kid is eligible or not).
This has little if aything to do with me. But you're right we don't need to engulf the entire board with this so I will stop engaging.
-
I didn't engage Mr. Fordham in this thread, he replied to one of my posts, so for him to say I am stalking him is pretty funny.
-
(http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/030/996/177061d68e97f5e8457375eke6.jpg)
-
I want to see you guys get really drunk and make out at the first game of the year. Then we can put all this ugliness behind us. ;D
-
I want to see you guys get really drunk and make out at the first game of the year. Then we can put all this ugliness behind us. ;D
Might get national attention if Dickie V. is there. Sounds a bit much for a day game.
-
Some threads need to just fade away and this is one of them.
-
What round should I pick Jevon for my 6,7 and 8th grade Intramural team that Im coaching here in Rockaway? I have to defend my title, so the bar is set high
-
SH recruiting IMO is not faring well. Who knows if they offer, but JT not worth it.
“@AdamZagoria: Guards Thomas, Wilbut Considering Seton Hall http://t.co/FWxErR4v (http://t.co/FWxErR4v) #shbb”
-
SH recruiting IMO is not faring well. Who knows if they offer, but JT not worth it.
“@AdamZagoria: Guards Thomas, Wilbut Considering Seton Hall http://t.co/FWxErR4v (http://t.co/FWxErR4v) #shbb”
I bet JT needs another year of prep after this year.
-
Ok guys this really was never funny. Please stop spamming the boards.
Be clear on this. He is quite frankly stalking me.
More importantly he clearly does not like it when he is either wrong or quite frankly caught being totally dishonest nor does he like it when someone spots a ridiculous pattern in his posting (such as posting every 5 minutes about whether a kid is eligible or not).
This has little if aything to do with me. But you're right we don't need to engulf the entire board with this so I will stop engaging.
Yes, let's not go down this road again...
(http://static.stickam.com/media/image/converted/original/1822/5456/2/80624b29-ddd6-11e0-b330-dda392d3bf0d.jpg)
-
What round should I pick Jevon for my 6,7 and 8th grade Intramural team that Im coaching here in Rockaway? I have to defend my title, so the bar is set high
R U a player coach again this year? :'(
-
Off the board AGAIN to Kansas State.
-
Off the board AGAIN to Kansas State.
He will be back on the board before long LOL
-
Jevon Thomas and "commitment" go together like...
[a] oil and vinegar
peas and carrots
[c] Batman and Robin
[d] Kim Kardashian and Kris Humphries
-
How will Kansas State replace Angel Rodriguez at PG? Freshman Jevon Thomas. Think former Seton Hall PG Eugene Harvey with a better jumper.
https://twitter.com/JonRothstein/status/339152061885210624
-
We could use a player like Thomas or a pg not as good. Instead we have Sanchez French friend who isn't any good, or Jakarr's friend who couldn't play at havard, or obekba's friend.
-
You wouldn't want Thomas. He's poison in the well
-
We could use a player like Thomas or a pg not as good. Instead we have Sanchez French friend who isn't any good, or Jakarr's friend who couldn't play at havard, or obekba's friend.
Why is that? We have not only Rysheed Jordan but also Jamal Branch and Phil Greene for the PG spot. We really have no need for him.
-
We could have used a back up pg last year
-
We could have used a back up pg last year
SJU doesn't need him or want him. For the record he did not qualify last year which is why he he failed to go to Dayton and ended up at prep school.
How could SJU have used him if he wouldn't have ever made it to campus anyway?
-
All I am saying we could have used a pg. We have to many sidekicks and nit enough players.
-
All I am saying we could have used a pg. We have to many sidekicks and nit enough players.
Yeah but marillacs point is he didn't qualify last year so he couldn't have been here. This year we have two top 60 pgs on the roster
-
All I am saying we could have used a pg. We have to many sidekicks and nit enough players.
Yeah but marillacs point is he didn't qualify last year so he couldn't have been here. This year we have two top 60 pgs on the roster
I am very happy entering this season with Jordan, Branch and Greene at PG. most teams have nothing close to that talent and depth. Branch was looking quite good before his injury. The kid had to sit til after first semester, then jump into the lineup. We played our best games of the season with Branch at Pg until his unfortunate knee injury. He will be a junior, but the kid literally had barely one semester of solid ball where he was healthy and in the groove. He showed some flashes of excellence as well. Phil is a solid player, also playing injured. Add a top 20 kid in Rysheed who is absolutely fantastic and we have zero need at all for Jevon Thomas.
-
All I am saying we could have used a pg. We have to many sidekicks and nit enough players.
Yeah but marillacs point is he didn't qualify last year so he couldn't have been here. This year we have two top 60 pgs on the roster
I am very happy entering this season with Jordan, Branch and Greene at PG. most teams have nothing close to that talent and depth. Branch was looking quite good before his injury. The kid had to sit til after first semester, then jump into the lineup. We played our best games of the season with Branch at Pg until his unfortunate knee injury. He will be a junior, but the kid literally had barely one semester of solid ball where he was healthy and in the groove. He showed some flashes of excellence as well. Phil is a solid player, also playing injured. Add a top 20 kid in Rysheed who is absolutely fantastic and we have zero need at all for Jevon Thomas.
Add to that the inexplicable timing of Branch's eye surgery right after he became eligible (and didn't he then get poked in practice?) and I would definitely agree that we haven't seen his best basketball yet. I thought he looked tremendous in the Marquette game.
-
Add a top 20 kid in Rysheed who is absolutely fantastic and we have zero need at all for Jevon Thomas.
I agree but if Thomas has his head on straight (HUGE if), he is a very good player.
-
Add a top 20 kid in Rysheed who is absolutely fantastic and we have zero need at all for Jevon Thomas.
I agree but if Thomas has his head on straight (HUGE if), he is a very good player.
So are a lot of kids including Pelle. Don't understand your point.
You openly criticize the staff for recruiting kids with questionable academics and attitude yet when they drop that type of kid and recruit and land an even better one you defend the kid they dropped as if they should've still pursued him because if he had his head on straight he is good? Huh?
-
Add a top 20 kid in Rysheed who is absolutely fantastic and we have zero need at all for Jevon Thomas.
I agree but if Thomas has his head on straight (HUGE if), he is a very good player.
So are a lot of kids including Pelle. Don't understand your point.
You openly criticize the staff for recruiting kids with questionable academics and attitude yet when they drop that type of kid and recruit and land an even better one you defend the kid they dropped as if they should've still pursued him because if he had his head on straight he is good? Huh?
Now in the past you have accused me of following you around this board but you are clearly doing it with me now.
I made a simple statement - if Thomas has his head on straight, he is a very good player. You decided to take a simple statement and try to twist it to you liking. I didn't mention the staff or that the staff should have pursued him.
Again - have a nice day
-
All I am saying we could have used a pg. We have to many sidekicks and nit enough players.
Tony, we adding 4 players to last years team, minus Amir who wouldn't be moving on if we were short players. I think this team is loaded, but maybe you right.
-
Always something with this kid;
“@GoodmanESPN: Jevon Thomas is slated to replace Angel Rodriguez at Kansas State. Thomas won't be eligible until Dec. 21 -- http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/9758541/jevon-thomas-kansas-state-wildcats-sit-dec-21 (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/9758541/jevon-thomas-kansas-state-wildcats-sit-dec-21)”
-
Hasn't played in past several games, but still on roster. Saw chatter that he had a blow up with the Coach at practice. Another lost opportunity in the making?
-
Thanks.....that's been his problem forever....too bad
-
Unrelated -
But Omari looked noticeably trimmer/quicker in last nights KSU win.
-
Hasn't played in past several games, but still on roster. Saw chatter that he had a blow up with the Coach at practice. Another lost opportunity in the making?
His high school coach just flew out top KSU to sit down with him and the coach.. such wasted ability.