6th Man of St. John's Basketball
St. John's Red Storm => Recruiting Archives => Recruiting => 2013 Class => Topic started by: kjd01067 on September 15, 2010, 05:39:34 PM
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:tickedoff:http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/recruiting/player/_/id/102866 (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/recruiting/player/_/id/102866)
http://saintjohns.scout.com/a.z?s=443&p=8&c=1&nid=5095094 (http://saintjohns.scout.com/a.z?s=443&p=8&c=1&nid=5095094)
Not sure if his name is Jaron or Jaren. Anybody? Listed differently on different sites
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I'd only seen "Jaren" in Rivals and Zags and Northstar bball.
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This kid is NOT a Big East player right now. He needs to grow a lot of fill out quite a bit.
His Dad played ball @ Bishop Ford in Brooklyn and in college at both Rhode Island & Seton Hall.
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Jaren Sina, coming to midnight madness:
[tweet]http://twitter.com/AdamZagoria/status/27137958690[/tweet]
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Jaren Sina ’13 of New Jersey – St. John’s- It was a really cool experience seeing a little preview of the team scrimmaging. The environment was awesome. There were a lot of people in attendance and you can tell that the school is excited about the direction Coach Steve Lavin is taking the program in.
http://www.therecruitscoop.com/recruits-breakdown-midnight-madness-2010 (http://www.therecruitscoop.com/recruits-breakdown-midnight-madness-2010)
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This kid is NOT a Big East player right now. He needs to grow a lot of fill out quite a bit.
His Dad played ball @ Bishop Ford in Brooklyn and in college at both Rhode Island & Seton Hall.
This kid is nasty! He has great range, good handle, sees the floor well, and can create his own shot. If he grows to be even close to his dad's height he's going to be a major problem.
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Jaren Sina (Lake Hopatcong, N.J./ Gill St. Bernard's)
2013, PG, 6-1, 160 pounds
Sina is a tough, competitive floor general who is very skilled. He is thin and needs to add strength and at times he over dribbles, but his list of things he does well is much longer. Sina has a tight handle, can deliver the ball with either hand and knocked down deep and midrange jumpers off the catch or dribble. Sina has a great feel for the game as well and he does a great job of keeping his dribble alive until he knows what he wants to do. Sina makes great decisions when he reads and attacks on-ball screens. He just looks like he loves to play as he attacks defenders without hesitation. Seton Hall, Rutgers, St. John's, LaSalle, Alabama, James Madison, Florida State and Georgetown have all offered. Duke, Butler, Clemson, Siena and Miami are all in the process of checking out Sina, who dropped 22 points and handed out five assists in a hard fought loss to St. Anthony's.
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/recruiting/basketball/mens/news/story?id=5938851 (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/recruiting/basketball/mens/news/story?id=5938851)
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This kid is NOT a Big East player right now. He needs to grow a lot of fill out quite a bit.
His Dad played ball @ Bishop Ford in Brooklyn and in college at both Rhode Island & Seton Hall.
This kid is nasty! He has great range, good handle, sees the floor well, and can create his own shot. If he grows to be even close to his dad's height he's going to be a major problem.
This kid is NOT a Big East player right now. He needs to grow a lot of fill out quite a bit.
His Dad played ball @ Bishop Ford in Brooklyn and in college at both Rhode Island & Seton Hall.
I played against his Uncle at Bishop Ford. He could shoot also
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[tweet]http://twitter.com/ReggieRankin/status/21948184448208897[/tweet]
Just heard that Florida Asst Rob Lanier is headed to NJ to check out c/o 2013 PG Jaren Sina this week. Sina played extremely well when I
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He's going to blow up nationally. If you want to compare him and Ryan Arcidiacono as sophomores no question that Sina is better.
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He's going to blow up nationally. If you want to compare him and Ryan Arcidiacono as sophomores no question that Sina is better.
I caught his game last night. He would've had a triple-double, except his dad pulled him at the beginning of the fourth--a blowout. 20 points, 9 assists, 7 rebounds, 3 turnovers, 2 steals. Lanier was there for Florida and I believe I saw Donnelly of Nova as well. He's got a high skill level and a precocious feel for the game. It'll be interesting to see how much more he can grow--particularly with his current skill level. His dad is conservatively seven inches taller than him now.
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If he cuts the gap to his dad's height in half I think that scary with his skill set.
A few things I'd like to see him improve is his ability to drive the ball to the basket with his left. He often crosses back over to him dominant hand when going to the rim but even this is nitpicking. He's really good.
He'll add size and strength without a doubt because he works really hard. He told me what he does in terms of workouts and wow. Kid has drive and good work ethic.
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If he cuts the gap to his dad's height in half I think that scary with his skill set.
A few things I'd like to see him improve is his ability to drive the ball to the basket with his left. He often crosses back over to him dominant hand when going to the rim but even this is nitpicking. He's really good.
He'll add size and strength without a doubt because he works really hard. He told me what he does in terms of workouts and wow. Kid has drive and good work ethic.
He still gives up his handle too quickly, which results in his jump passes, and could be even more effective if he changed speeds frequently, but, at this level, he won't have to worry about that until the state playoffs. He's got a beautiful stroke and immense range, but his shooting percentage would be even higher, if he cut down on some "bad" shots. As with Kyrie, I think he'd benefit at the next level from transferring to a better program and learning how to play alongside other high-caliber players, but, with his parents both affiliated with the school, he'll probably stick it out.
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can we change the title, and get his name right please...it's "Jaren"
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[tweet]http://twitter.com/ReggieRankin/status/26323247666565120[/tweet]
2013 PG Jaren Sina (Gill St. Bernard"s, NJ) drops 32 points and hands out 7 assist last night. Sina has been playing very well this season.
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http://johnnyjungle.com/recruiting/have-you-sina/ (http://johnnyjungle.com/recruiting/have-you-sina/)
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Shockingly...Sina just committed to Alabama
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Shockingly...Sina just committed to Alabama
I talked with Sina a few weeks ago and he said he had 5 offers Rutgers, St. John's, Seton Hall, LaSalle, James Madison.
In the article posted above David Berov reported that he had offers from Seton Hall, Cincinnati, Rhode Island, Alabama, La Salle, Rutgers, James Madison, Florida State, Georgetown and St. John’s.
Meaning he picked up another 5 offers. He certainly didn't visit all of these schools and I find it odd that he would commit. Either Evan got a bad scoop or I doubt this commitment sticks
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Shockingly...Sina just committed to Alabama
I talked with Sina a few weeks ago and he said he had 5 offers Rutgers, St. John's, Seton Hall, LaSalle, James Madison.
In the article posted above David Berov reported that he had offers from Seton Hall, Cincinnati, Rhode Island, Alabama, La Salle, Rutgers, James Madison, Florida State, Georgetown and St. John’s.
Meaning he picked up another 5 offers. He certainly didn't visit all of these schools and I find it odd that he would commit. Either Evan got a bad scoop or I doubt this commitment sticks
Did Evan break it or did Kline?
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I find it hard to believe Jaren called up Alex Kline to break the news but he does have quotes to support it. I'd put my money on Evan though. Either way its unbelievable the hustle Kline has for getting stuff out there.
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Shockingly...Sina just committed to Alabama
I talked with Sina a few weeks ago and he said he had 5 offers Rutgers, St. John's, Seton Hall, LaSalle, James Madison.
In the article posted above David Berov reported that he had offers from Seton Hall, Cincinnati, Rhode Island, Alabama, La Salle, Rutgers, James Madison, Florida State, Georgetown and St. John’s.
Meaning he picked up another 5 offers. He certainly didn't visit all of these schools and I find it odd that he would commit. Either Evan got a bad scoop or I doubt this commitment sticks
Grant had Sina down to their "Elite " camp this summer. That's when he got their offer.
Sina's father is a promoter (he calls up someone I know after every game to tell him his son's stats), but my bet would be on Grant in this case.
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Shockingly...Sina just committed to Alabama
I talked with Sina a few weeks ago and he said he had 5 offers Rutgers, St. John's, Seton Hall, LaSalle, James Madison.
In the article posted above David Berov reported that he had offers from Seton Hall, Cincinnati, Rhode Island, Alabama, La Salle, Rutgers, James Madison, Florida State, Georgetown and St. John’s.
Meaning he picked up another 5 offers. He certainly didn't visit all of these schools and I find it odd that he would commit. Either Evan got a bad scoop or I doubt this commitment sticks
Grant had Sina down to their "Elite " camp this summer. That's when he got their offer.
Sina's father is a promoter (he calls up someone I know after every game to tell him his son's stats), but my bet would be on Grant in this case.
I stand corrected on Alabama. He's going to be a really good ball player.
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Shockingly...Sina just committed to Alabama
I talked with Sina a few weeks ago and he said he had 5 offers Rutgers, St. John's, Seton Hall, LaSalle, James Madison.
In the article posted above David Berov reported that he had offers from Seton Hall, Cincinnati, Rhode Island, Alabama, La Salle, Rutgers, James Madison, Florida State, Georgetown and St. John’s.
Meaning he picked up another 5 offers. He certainly didn't visit all of these schools and I find it odd that he would commit. Either Evan got a bad scoop or I doubt this commitment sticks
Grant had Sina down to their "Elite " camp this summer. That's when he got their offer.
Sina's father is a promoter (he calls up someone I know after every game to tell him his son's stats), but my bet would be on Grant in this case.
I stand corrected on Alabama. He's going to be a really good ball player.
TK is very high on him as well, but worries about him burning out.
It'll be interesting to see if this one sticks. If he continues to improve, the bigger fish will get interested.
I like a kid, Levi Randolph, that they signed for 2011. Good 2/3 with size, a nice stroke, a 3.9 GPA, and a really nice kid.
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This commitment won't stick. Guess where his girlfriend is going to school next year? Guess where her dad went to school?
Whatever happens though Jaren is a great kid, who works extremely hard, and I wish him the best of success with whatever happens.
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Played really well this weekend. He's a terrific shooter and passer. If anyone gets to see his AAU team play this summer they are in for a treat. Hoops Heaven Heat (NJ)
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Gave a "verbal" to Alabama. Seems that there is someone at his school (administration- alumni ?) with a major connection to Alabama. That & Bama coach Grant & Jaren/family really hit it off. Verbal gives him the option to change his mind & teenagers being who they are-he's one to maintain contact with.
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ESPNU Super 60 guard Jaren Sina is re-opening his recruitment per his father/coach. 2013 picked Alabama last year as a soph.
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Shockey ::)
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Does he come here?
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Does he come here?
I wouldn't doubt he'd be an option.
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Shockey ::)
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAhahahahahahahahahahaahaha!
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Shockey ::)
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAhahahahahahahahahahaahaha!
I meant to type Shocked. No clue why I typed Shockey. But its clear the effect was the same :)
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Shockey ::)
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAhahahahahahahahahahaahaha!
I meant to type Shocked. No clue why I typed Shockey. But its clear the effect was the same :)
Thought you were referring to Jeremy. Could you explain your meaning of shocked? Why so?
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Shockey ::)
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAhahahahahahahahahahaahaha!
I meant to type Shocked. No clue why I typed Shockey. But its clear the effect was the same :)
Thought you were referring to Jeremy. Could you explain your meaning of shocked? Why so?
Kind of came out of LF. I think it was on Redmen where the discussion was had and I made a statement that it wouldn't hold up. Early commitments have a tendancy to open up and thats why they scare the daylights out of me. Alabama seemed random. I think there was talk of his girl going there or something. You can't pick a college on that.
Strong quotes from Dad. Mentions us as well.
http://www.mycentraljersey.com/article/20111004/NJSPORTS0150/310040042/Sina-pulls-commitment-from-Alabama (http://www.mycentraljersey.com/article/20111004/NJSPORTS0150/310040042/Sina-pulls-commitment-from-Alabama)
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Mergin Sina said his son has no new favorite right now, but mentioned that the local Big East schools are firmly in the mix.
“Rutgers, Seton Hall and St. John’s were there when we started (the recruiting process), and they’re still there,” he said.
http://blogs.mycentraljersey.com/hoopshaven/2011/10/04/jaren-sina-re-opens-big-east-locals-in-the-mix/ (http://blogs.mycentraljersey.com/hoopshaven/2011/10/04/jaren-sina-re-opens-big-east-locals-in-the-mix/)
Moose edits his post right before I add Carino's article myself...LOL!!!
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Shockey ::)
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAhahahahahahahahahahaahaha!
I meant to type Shocked. No clue why I typed Shockey. But its clear the effect was the same :)
Thought you were referring to Jeremy. Could you explain your meaning of shocked? Why so?
Kind of came out of LF. I think it was on Redmen where the discussion was had and I made a statement that it wouldn't hold up. Early commitments have a tendancy to open up and thats why they scare the daylights out of me. Alabama seemed random. I think there was talk of his girl going there or something. You can't pick a college on that.
Strong quotes from Dad. Mentions us as well.
http://www.mycentraljersey.com/article/20111004/NJSPORTS0150/310040042/Sina-pulls-commitment-from-Alabama (http://www.mycentraljersey.com/article/20111004/NJSPORTS0150/310040042/Sina-pulls-commitment-from-Alabama)
Gotcha, thanks. But just remember St J's transfer 7' C Rob Cornegy went to Bama. :) By the way Anthony Grant is building a good progrm at Bama and they have two real good incoming freshman in Levi Randolph and Trevor Lacey.
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lol wut?
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Shockey ::)
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAhahahahahahahahahahaahaha!
I meant to type Shocked. No clue why I typed Shockey. But its clear the effect was the same :)
Thought you were referring to Jeremy. Could you explain your meaning of shocked? Why so?
Kind of came out of LF. I think it was on Redmen where the discussion was had and I made a statement that it wouldn't hold up. Early commitments have a tendancy to open up and thats why they scare the daylights out of me. Alabama seemed random. I think there was talk of his girl going there or something. You can't pick a college on that.
Strong quotes from Dad. Mentions us as well.
http://www.mycentraljersey.com/article/20111004/NJSPORTS0150/310040042/Sina-pulls-commitment-from-Alabama (http://www.mycentraljersey.com/article/20111004/NJSPORTS0150/310040042/Sina-pulls-commitment-from-Alabama)
Seton Hall Rivals now giving these odds for him
Seton Hall 71.3%
Rutgers 30.3%
SJU 7.5%
Apparently math isn't their strong suit
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Rutgers will be a big player for Sina
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Here's a little part of a STJ/Sina article from Rivals yesterday:
http://stjohns.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1300551 (http://stjohns.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1300551)
St. John's has done a great job of recruiting Sina and was one of the first schools to inquire about the 6-1 point guard when he re-opened his recruitment. "Absolutely," coach Sina said of St. John's being in the picture. "I know [assistant] coach [Tony] Chiles very well. We grew up playing basketball together. He's already made contact with us and obviously they're going to recruit Jaren.
"Jaren's wide open right now but St. John's is definitely in the hunt as well." Coach Sina and assistant Chiles close relationship shouldn't hurt St. John's chances of landing the guard either.
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This kid will not leave NJ.. it will be either RU or SHU.
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This kid will not leave NJ.. it will be either RU or SHU.
Does leaving NJ also include NY which is a hop skip and jump away? Come on.
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This kid will not leave NJ.. it will be either RU or SHU.
Does leaving NJ also include NY which is a hop skip and jump away? Come on.
Must be a Seton Hall fan :)
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Gil St. Bernard is scrimmaging St. Anthony tonight, wonder if we will have anyone in the building.
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http://floridastate.rivals.com/barrier_noentry.asp?ReturnTo=&sid=&script=content.asp&cid=1306794&fid=&tid=&mid=&rid= (http://floridastate.rivals.com/barrier_noentry.asp?ReturnTo=&sid=&script=content.asp&cid=1306794&fid=&tid=&mid=&rid=)
I'm not a member so not sure if there is anything new in this.
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http://floridastate.rivals.com/barrier_noentry.asp?ReturnTo=&sid=&script=content.asp&cid=1306794&fid=&tid=&mid=&rid= (http://floridastate.rivals.com/barrier_noentry.asp?ReturnTo=&sid=&script=content.asp&cid=1306794&fid=&tid=&mid=&rid=)
I'm not a member so not sure if there is anything new in this.
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The competition is fierce, though. Sina has offers from Alabama and UVa in addition to Cincinnati, Miami, Penn State, Rutgers, Seton Hall, and St. John's.
If those choices weren't enough, the Gill St. Bernard's School (Gladstone, N.J.) prospect says he's hearing from some schools that make up a who's-who of basketball elite.
"Recently, I've been hearing from Stanford, Villanova, Kansas, Northwestern and Syracuse," he added.
In terms of a timeframe, Sina said his biggest focus is to not make the same mistake he made 11 months ago, when he thought he was done with the recruiting process, but rather to let the pick come when the information has, too.
"I know now that there is so much to this decision and you can't rush into it," he said. "When I feel like it's the right fit, that's when I'm going to make the decision. But right now, I don't think that's something I'm anywhere close to ready to do."
While he said he has no visits on the horizon, Sina is still excited about the schools that he's looking at as well as the fact that his high school team is looking to tip off its season in the next week.
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I would not be surprised to see this kid make a choice sooner rather than later.
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I would not be surprised to see this kid make a choice sooner rather than later.
PMG thinks he come to St Johns?
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Seton Hall or Ruters
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Rutgers, Sorry!
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While it was only a scrimmage game last night, Gil St. Bernard took it too St. Anthony last night from what i was told.
Spoke to someone who was in the gym this morning and they said it was a packed house and Gil clearly won and was clearly the better team.
Sina made at least 6 3pt shots and Gil made almost 20 as a team. He said Anderson didn't play well at all.
One coach told me. . Jaren was who everyone was there to see but Merign Sina was just as impressive on the sidelines. Guy told me his kids were super sharp, well prepared, played very smart ball and were clearly coached at a high level.
Gil heads to City of Palms this weekend and they are playing Ricoardo Gather's team on Friday.
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Thanks pmg, I'm liking this kid. Let's get him
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Marco - 2 weeks ago I would have said it was a two horse race between Rutgers & SHU but no clue now. New schools getting involved hard in the past couple of weeks.
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Marco - 2 weeks ago I would have said it was a two horse race between Rutgers & SHU but no clue now. New schools getting involved hard in the past couple of weeks.
I guess that's why he wanted to wait? Are we even on his radar? Is the staff even recruiting him?
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Marco - 2 weeks ago I would have said it was a two horse race between Rutgers & SHU but no clue now. New schools getting involved hard in the past couple of weeks.
I guess that's why he wanted to wait? Are we even on his radar? Is the staff even recruiting him?
There was article earlier in this thread I beleive from about a month ago that talks about the fathers relationship with Chiles and how we are among his suitors.
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Jaren and Gil St. Benard team play together all year round. The same guys play for Hoop Heaven Heat. It's a 3 headed monster with Jaren, Alex Mitola (Dartmouth), and Dom Hoffman (Bucknell). Honestly my favorite team to watch.
They will be playing my high school CBA (NJ) January 14th as a part of the Hoop Group Boardwalk Showcase.
http://www.hoopgroup.com/hoopgroup/team-tournaments/highschoolshowcase/boardwalk-hoop-group-showcase/schedule.php (http://www.hoopgroup.com/hoopgroup/team-tournaments/highschoolshowcase/boardwalk-hoop-group-showcase/schedule.php)
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Sina is about to visit Virginia....
http://www.zagsblog.com/2011/12/15/jaren-sina-to-visit-virginia/ (http://www.zagsblog.com/2011/12/15/jaren-sina-to-visit-virginia/)
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If he stays local, SJU a great choice. We certainly need a PG, and this kid can not only pass but really shoot. Hopefully our staff is in his ear, but I still think they like Rysheed Jordan as their prime PG pick of the 2013 class. Rysheed is big, fast and can pass and score.
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Alex Kline reporting that with Carr's verbal to SH, Sina is no longer considering them. Could open the door for us.
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Hate to be negative, but wouldn't you think if Branch committed to St Johns that Sina would take us off his list? Either would be great at this point but both would be better.
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Hate to be negative, but wouldn't you think if Branch committed to St Johns that Sina would take us off his list? Either would be great at this point but both would be better.
Funny I thought the same thing when I read that.
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Maybe, but I think he could find minutes in our backcourt.
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Hate to be negative, but wouldn't you think if Branch committed to St Johns that Sina would take us off his list? Either would be great at this point but both would be better.
Not same class.
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Sina has to expect at least another pg on the roster. Plus branch would be a junior while Carr is in the same class
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Sina has to expect at least another pg on the roster. Plus branch would be a junior while Carr is in the same class
If we land branch i think he would be a sophomore when sina is a freshmen
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Lavin would say I've put two point guards in the NBA who played together. Baron Davis and Earl Watson...next argument please.
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Hate to be negative, but wouldn't you think if Branch committed to St Johns that Sina would take us off his list? Either would be great at this point but both would be better.
I am not sure of that Carr and Sina both 2013 recruits. Branch would be a junior when Sina is a freshman. Got to take Branch first if he chooses us. If you lose Sina, you are still set in the backcourt and can get a PG in 2014 to have a freshman back up a senior.
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Lavin would say I've put two point guards in the NBA who played together. Baron Davis and Earl Watson...next argument please.
Serious.
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Hearing Virgina has moved very clearly to the top of his list at this point.
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His list is getting prett long.
Sina hopes to visit both schools in the off season and is also considering Rutgers, West Virginia, St. John’s, Miami, Cincinnati, Michigan, Virginia, Villanova, Florida State, Alabama, Penn State and Northwestern. He visited Virginia earlier in the month and has taken a great liking to the Cavaliers.
http://www.therecruitscoop.com/memphis-butler-offer-jaren-sina (http://www.therecruitscoop.com/memphis-butler-offer-jaren-sina)
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bump
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Hearing Butler is right there for Jaren.
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Hearing Butler is right there for Jaren.
No chance with Sina?
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Hearing Butler is right there for Jaren.
No chance with Sina?
Word for a long time was that he wants to leave the area.
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Word for a long time was that he wants to leave the area.
If Carr had not given a verbal he would probably have committed to Seton Hall but like I said a few posts up, I am hearing Butler is in a good position with him.
I think he might wait until November to sign....
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FWIW, notes SJU still in it.
“@AdamZagoria: Pittsburgh Latest to Offer Jaren Sina http://t.co/rSSe3VxK (http://t.co/rSSe3VxK)”
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Word for a long time was that he wants to leave the area.
I think he might wait until November to sign....
He's 2013... thats the earliest he can sign
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PMG is right about the Hall. I still have my doubts about Carr ever winding up there and Willard and Sina would be a good match. Hopefully things work out for all.
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Hearing his recruitment is wide open once again...
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Hearing his recruitment is wide open once again...
We might be too full back there to get any real consideration, but good to hear nonetheless.
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PMG -- have you heard anything re: the fact that he is wide open again has to do with the Hall telling him behind-the-scenes (or his general impression) that Carr's academics are as bad as everyone suggests, and that he is never making it to campus?
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Sorry for late reply... I think most people anywhere near Carr know his academics are a disaster. As far as never making it to campus, I don't know that answer.
As for Jaren.. I have known his Father since I am a little kid, will leave it at that.
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Love this kids game and watching him play. Phenomenal playmaker.
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Love this kids game and watching him play. Phenomenal playmaker.
Hey we agree :)
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Love this kids game and watching him play. Phenomenal playmaker.
Hey we agree :)
But Sina has D3 level defensive ability! Ha!
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Love this kids game and watching him play. Phenomenal playmaker.
Hey we agree :)
But Sina has D3 level defensive ability! Ha!
Smart. Now we are in for 5 pages of beating a dead horse. :)
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I heard Sina is making a visit to SJU in the very near future
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I heard Sina is making a visit to SJU in the very near future
Good to hear. Another kid I'd love to have here.
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Peeked at the thread on him on rm.com. I forgot his had has connections to Chiles. Can't hurt.
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Love this kids game and watching him play. Phenomenal playmaker.
Hey we agree :)
But Sina has D3 level defensive ability! Ha!
Great offense + D3-level defense = somebody like Luke Ridnour.
I'd sign up for that in a heartbeat. I'll let the the pros worry about his defense.
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Love this kids game and watching him play. Phenomenal playmaker.
Hey we agree :)
But Sina has D3 level defensive ability! Ha!
Great offense + D3-level defense = somebody like Luke Ridnour.
I'd sign up for that in a heartbeat. I'll let the the pros worry about his defense.
This is an over-generalization, but right now we have a team of great defenders with limited offensive games, Wouldnt hurt to have somebody like Sina.
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Sina woud be a great fit because he projects as a PG and we probably will need another PG to step in behind Branch and take the role after Branch leaves.
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How many ships do we have for this years class????
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Love this kids game and watching him play. Phenomenal playmaker.
Hey we agree :)
But Sina has D3 level defensive ability! Ha!
He isn't known for his defense but this is an exaggeration.
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How many ships do we have for this years class????
It''s not clear Maverick. As of now we would have 2 available for next season, 1 leftover from this year and 1 opens up when Gift graduates.
But, that doesn't count Darrick Wood, who may be apart of this year's class; or could prep and join the team next year.
Plus, there's an outside chance Mike Chandler becomes eligible and signs within the next month.
But, it sounds like we would have either 1 or 2 scholarships. More if D'angelo or Jakarr were to go pro... as unlikely as that might be, it's a possibility.
Then again, with transfers and eligibility issues these days, who really knows.
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Jaren Sina, a 6-foot-1 sharpshooting point guard from Gil St. Bernard’s in New Jersey was a one-time commitment to Alabama. Now his recruitment seems to be more concentrated closer to home, specifically among Big East schools.
“Obviously Alabama is still in the mix,” he told NBE Sports on Friday. “We have Virginia, we have a couple Big East schools that are pretty heavy. I mean Rutgers, Seton Hall, Pittsburgh, [then there’s] Northwestern and some Big Ten schools. Just a lot of Big East/ACC schools.”
His high school coach, and father, Mergin Sina is counseling him through the recruiting process. They plan to cut the list of schools down after the busy July period. Sina did hint that staying in the Northeast is a strong possibility.
“There’s a pretty good chance I stay in the area with Pittsburgh, Rutgers, and Seton Hall,” he said, adding that Northwestern and Virginia were also recruiting him pretty hard, which in the end will make them intriguing options too.
The changes in the Big East is something Sina is watching closely, but he knows the conference will still be a top-notch destination for basketball.
“It’s still going to be a great conference no matter what,” said Sina.
http://www.nbebasketball.com/w3/2012-0616/nbpa-top-100-high-school-basketball-camp-recruiting-notebook-sina-lawrence-mudiay-more/ (http://www.nbebasketball.com/w3/2012-0616/nbpa-top-100-high-school-basketball-camp-recruiting-notebook-sina-lawrence-mudiay-more/)
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no mention of st. john's?
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I know. Supposedly he's visiting soon. You would figure he would mention us.
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Love this kids game and watching him play. Phenomenal playmaker.
Hey we agree :)
But Sina has D3 level defensive ability! Ha!
He isn't known for his defense but this is an exaggeration.
Was intended to be. Simply mocking previous harangues about Chris Obekpa's offensive deficits. Thus, the "ha" noted in my post.
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He may or may not be visiting but either way I don't think he is the guy Kline was talking about.
FWIW I heard Pitt really impressed him.
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I have a bigger man crush on Jaren than anyone but I think his chances of coming to St. John's are slim to none.
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Totally agree Dave... if SHU cuts ties with Carr, I think he ends up there.
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Most of us IMO have not given Sina a thought in some time.
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Most of us IMO have not given Sina a thought in some time.
I don't think SJU is recruiting him.
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“@EvanDanielsFOX: Jaren Sina just informed Scout that he will announce his decision tonight at 7:00.”
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“@EvanDanielsFOX: Jaren Sina just informed Scout that he will announce his decision tonight at 7:00.”
Does UVA getting their recent committ, knock them out?
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“@EvanDanielsFOX: Jaren Sina just informed Scout that he will announce his decision tonight at 7:00.”
Does UVA getting their recent committ, knock them out?
I would think
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I believe he will pick Northwestern... Only way he picks the hall is if he knows Carr won't make it to campus.
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I believe he will pick Northwestern... Only way he picks the hall is if he knows Carr won't make it to campus.
like that choice as well, just a gut feeling.
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“@jeffborzello: Per @Joshua_Newman, Jaren Sina -- expected to announce tonight -- is down to Rutgers, Seton Hall and Northwestern. Former Alabama commit.”
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“@jeffborzello: Per @Joshua_Newman, Jaren Sina -- expected to announce tonight -- is down to Rutgers, Seton Hall and Northwestern. Former Alabama commit.”
Won't be Rutgers IMO
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“@jeffborzello: Per @Joshua_Newman, Jaren Sina -- expected to announce tonight -- is down to Rutgers, Seton Hall and Northwestern. Former Alabama commit.”
Won't be Rutgers IMO
I agree I would be shocked if he does chose Rutgers. Previous reports were that he wanted to stay close to home.. So who knows. Shame we don't have extra ships for '13 :)
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“@AdamZagoria: 2013 Gill St. Bernard's PG Jaren Sina is expected to commit to Northwestern, sources told @SNYtv. Great get for Bill Carmody & Freddie Hill.”
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Carr may never get there.
“@NJHoopsHaven: It's Northwestern for Sina. Good fit for his game. Was a Seton Hall lean before the Aquille Carr commitment.”
“@NJHoopsHaven: Sina's dad/coach Mergin said N'western was the best overall fit between academics, style of play and opportunity. Jaren also loves Chicago”
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“@AdamZagoria: 2013 Gill St. Bernard's PG Jaren Sina is expected to commit to Northwestern, sources told @SNYtv. Great get for Bill Carmody & Freddie Hill.”
Fred Hill is there?????
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http://www.sippinonpurple.com/2011/6/6/2209716/northwestern-hires-fred-hill-as-assistant-coach (http://www.sippinonpurple.com/2011/6/6/2209716/northwestern-hires-fred-hill-as-assistant-coach)
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http://www.sippinonpurple.com/2011/6/6/2209716/northwestern-hires-fred-hill-as-assistant-coach (http://www.sippinonpurple.com/2011/6/6/2209716/northwestern-hires-fred-hill-as-assistant-coach)
In the comments section of that story on Hill - if this is the mindset of the NU fanbase, a pretty good indicator of why Northwestern has long been nowheresville in hoops: "NU could have Phil Jackson, Larry Brown, or Coach K as the assistant coach, and it would not matter. The head coach in college bball is the main guy, recruiting and coaching, so it doesn’t matter at all."
I mean, is this clown really SERIOUS? Does he have any idea how top level college hoops actually works these days?
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Northwestern is a tremendous school and plays in a terrific conference, so I can see the appeal. This has to be viewed as a tough loss for both Rutgers and Seton Hall though - a kid in their backyard who has expressed a desire to stay local, who both teams heavily recruited, and yet he chooses a school that isn't exactly a basketball powerhouse. I understand that people believe Carr's commitment played a role in Sina's choice, but surely he was well aware of Carr's apparent precarious academic situation. And even so, the Hall staff could have sold him on the ability to play with a guy who has Carr's ability (from what people say of his skills).
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Heard rumblings that the coach at Northwestern might be out and that if he is out Sina will not go there...
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That would be very interesting. I have not heard his name much this season.
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Well, we got a kid from Harvard.
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Might have a spot for him now
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And best of all he won't be a dick in practice.
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Heard rumblings that the coach at Northwestern might be out and that if he is out Sina will not go there...
Logical destination would be Seton Hall. He'd be able to get shots there
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I can say with certainty Sina won't be mentioned with St. John's nor should he. Not a good fit for school or player.
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I can say with certainty Sina won't be mentioned with St. John's nor should he. Not a good fit for school or player.
After Jordan, are they really looking at anyone?
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Sina = high basketball IQ = something we need if Branch doesn't pan out
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As posted on redmen.com
Carmody fired at Northwestern and Sina opening up his recruitment, do we have a chance and would we want him?
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kid can shoot and has a good handle.
sign him up.
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Jaren Sina Basketball Highlights from LeBron Camp & Cancer Research Classic (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tadPn-2T8vQ#ws)
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I can say with certainty Sina won't be mentioned with St. John's nor should he. Not a good fit for school or player.
Just curious, why would he not be a good fit here? He can shoot, and people say he has a high bball IQ which is exactly what we need.
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Everybody is bitching that we need a PG. If we dont get Jorden,why wouldnt we be intersted in him?
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Jaren Sina Basketball Highlights from LeBron Camp & Cancer Research Classic (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tadPn-2T8vQ#ws)
Kid looks like Sean Penn
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Screw this style of play crap. Pass on this kid and watch him drop 30 on us. We need someone that can chew gum and walk at the same time. He shoots and he can run point...son of a coach....sign his arse up.
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Well maybe Dave can expand on his earlier thoughts.
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Screw this style of play crap. Pass on this kid and watch him drop 30 on us. We need someone that can chew gum and walk at the same time. He shoots and he can run point...son of a coach....sign his arse up.
+100000000000
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Screw this style of play crap. Pass on this kid and watch him drop 30 on us. We need someone that can chew gum and walk at the same time. He shoots and he can run point...son of a coach....sign his arse up.
Yessir
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The kid has not even asked for a release let alone has he been granted one and already we are demanding the staff pursue a kid who isn't even available the night after Lavin was in Philly watching a significantly better player who is available. On top of that we have a full roster and will have Branch for a full year.
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If he was offered by Bama once, who are we kidding? They may not be world beaters, but neither are we.
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The kid has not even asked for a release let alone has he been granted one and already we are demanding the staff pursue a kid who isn't even available the night after Lavin was in Philly watching a significantly better player who is available. On top of that we have a full roster and will have Branch for a full year.
Agree, just reacting to folks who nit pick about this kid's game. Like his dad, he is a smart, hard working winner IMO.
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The kid has not even asked for a release let alone has he been granted one and already we are demanding the staff pursue a kid who isn't even available the night after Lavin was in Philly watching a significantly better player who is available. On top of that we have a full roster and will have Branch for a full year.
Agree, just reacting to folks who nit pick about this kid's game. Like his dad, he is a smart, hard working winner IMO.
Very simply here is my opinion:
1) He has not gotten a release so we are commenting on a kid who is not even available and
2) SJU has 1 at the most if any scholarships for next year and Lavs wants a difference maker and this kid is not a difference maker. He would not be the difference between SJU being really good or not next year IMHO.
Feel free to debate that. Fair?
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The kid has not even asked for a release let alone has he been granted one and already we are demanding the staff pursue a kid who isn't even available the night after Lavin was in Philly watching a significantly better player who is available. On top of that we have a full roster and will have Branch for a full year.
Agree, just reacting to folks who nit pick about this kid's game. Like his dad, he is a smart, hard working winner IMO.
Very simply here is my opinion:
1) He has not gotten a release so we are commenting on a kid who is not even available and
2) SJU has 1 at the most if any scholarships for next year and Lavs wants a difference maker and this kid is not a difference maker. He would not be the difference between SJU being really good or not next year IMHO.
Feel free to debate that. Fair?
For the second time, I never implied we should go after him. Additionally, I know he has not expressed a desire to leave. I was simply giving my opinion that he can play, contrary to some other folks' opinion. I don't think we need to debate this further. Thanks Fordham.
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The kid has not even asked for a release let alone has he been granted one and already we are demanding the staff pursue a kid who isn't even available the night after Lavin was in Philly watching a significantly better player who is available. On top of that we have a full roster and will have Branch for a full year.
Agree, just reacting to folks who nit pick about this kid's game. Like his dad, he is a smart, hard working winner IMO.
Very simply here is my opinion:
1) He has not gotten a release so we are commenting on a kid who is not even available and
2) SJU has 1 at the most if any scholarships for next year and Lavs wants a difference maker and this kid is not a difference maker. He would not be the difference between SJU being really good or not next year IMHO.
Feel free to debate that. Fair?
For the second time, I never implied we should go after him. Additionally, I know he has not expressed a desire to leave. I was simply giving my opinion that he can play, contrary to some other folks' opinion. I don't think we need to debate this further. Thanks Fordham.
My post wasn't necessarily directed ONLY at you. You were only part of it. I was merely just surmising everything from what EVERYONE was stating on Sina.
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The kid has not even asked for a release let alone has he been granted one and already we are demanding the staff pursue a kid who isn't even available the night after Lavin was in Philly watching a significantly better player who is available. On top of that we have a full roster and will have Branch for a full year.
Agree, just reacting to folks who nit pick about this kid's game. Like his dad, he is a smart, hard working winner IMO.
Very simply here is my opinion:
1) He has not gotten a release so we are commenting on a kid who is not even available and
2) SJU has 1 at the most if any scholarships for next year and Lavs wants a difference maker and this kid is not a difference maker. He would not be the difference between SJU being really good or not next year IMHO.
Feel free to debate that. Fair?
For the second time, I never implied we should go after him. Additionally, I know he has not expressed a desire to leave. I was simply giving my opinion that he can play, contrary to some other folks' opinion. I don't think we need to debate this further. Thanks Fordham.
My post wasn't necessarily directed ONLY at you. You were only part of it. I was merely just surmising everything from what EVERYONE was stating on Sina.
ok
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He hasn't played well for the past year. Stock has dropped off in a lot of people's eyes and his game didn't really mature much since his sophomore year (when he committed to Alabama) however the fact remains he can shoot. I was surprised when an SEC coach contacted me today inquiring about Sina. His recruitment will go one of two ways.
1. High major will reach for him because he's pretty talented to still be available in the spring.
2. He will go to a smaller school and dominate ala Steph Curry at Davidson.
Also my darkhorse theory is if Fred Hill gets the FDU job he might lure Sina with him. Fred Hill initially recruited Sina at Rutgers and got him to go to North Western. Big time relationship. Also my initial thoughts on him going to Seton Hall might not be the case as I heard there is disconnect between father and Willard.
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He hasn't played well for the past year. Stock has dropped off in a lot of people's eyes and his game didn't really mature much since his sophomore year (when he committed to Alabama) however the fact remains he can shoot. I was surprised when an SEC coach contacted me today inquiring about Sina. His recruitment will go one of two ways.
1. High major will reach for him because he's pretty talented to still be available in the spring.
2. He will go to a smaller school and dominate ala Steph Curry at Davidson.
Also my darkhorse theory is if Fred Hill gets the FDU job he might lure Sina with him. Fred Hill initially recruited Sina at Rutgers and got him to go to North Western. Big time relationship. Also my initial thoughts on him going to Seton Hall might not be the case as I heard there is disconnect between father and Willard.
Thanks Dave
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Zags source has been revealed, Ha!
“@AdamZagoria: Bill Carmody fired at Northwestern means Jaren Sina could open it up and Freddie Hill is again looking for work...FDU maybe?”
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Zags source has been revealed, Ha!
“@AdamZagoria: Bill Carmody fired at Northwestern means Jaren Sina could open it up and Freddie Hill is again looking for work...FDU maybe?”
If those are the whispers going around I can understand.... But no possible way Dave and Zags could be having that same independent thought.
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Zags source has been revealed, Ha!
“@AdamZagoria: Bill Carmody fired at Northwestern means Jaren Sina could open it up and Freddie Hill is again looking for work...FDU maybe?”
If those are the whispers going around I can understand.... But no possible way Dave and Zags could be having that same independent thought.
That was my independent thought and like I said a farfetched one at that. The only place I mentioned that was on here. It is possible Zags thought of it too.
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Zags source has been revealed, Ha!
“@AdamZagoria: Bill Carmody fired at Northwestern means Jaren Sina could open it up and Freddie Hill is again looking for work...FDU maybe?”
If those are the whispers going around I can understand.... But no possible way Dave and Zags could be having that same independent thought.
That was my independent thought and like I said a farfetched one at that. The only place I mentioned that was on here. It is possible Zags thought of it too.
Or he reads the board because of all the very intelligent posters here!
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Zags source has been revealed, Ha!
“@AdamZagoria: Bill Carmody fired at Northwestern means Jaren Sina could open it up and Freddie Hill is again looking for work...FDU maybe?”
If those are the whispers going around I can understand.... But no possible way Dave and Zags could be having that same independent thought.
That was my independent thought and like I said a farfetched one at that. The only place I mentioned that was on here. It is possible Zags thought of it too.
Or he reads the board because of all the very intelligent posters here!
On the mark Gman! Ha!
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If he's looking at a non-high major, dad went to Rhode Island, right? And there is a Jersey connection in place.
Also, if we miss on Jordan, Sina doesn't have to be as good as or better than Rysheed to help us; he only needs to be able to direct an offense better than Greene.
I would say it's possible that there may be an open scholarship -- some guys don't like to be repeatedly yanked out of the game before they've even had the chance to get going. Or worse still, not even inserted when the situation would seem to call for his particular skill set.
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If he's looking at a non-high major, dad went to Rhode Island, right? And there is a Jersey connection in place.
Also, if we miss on Jordan, Sina doesn't have to be as good as or better than Rysheed to help us; he only needs to be able to direct an offense better than Greene.
I would say it's possible that there may be an open scholarship -- some guys don't like to be repeatedly yanked out of the game before they've even had the chance to get going. Or worse still, not even inserted when the situation would seem to call for his particular skill set.
I did not say a recruit has to be better then Jordan but for this year with the limited space Coach is only looking for someone who can make a major difference now. If SJU was putting together a 5-6 man class then perhaps he is worth it.
And he is not better then Greene either right now or in high school.
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If he's looking at a non-high major, dad went to Rhode Island, right? And there is a Jersey connection in place.
Also, if we miss on Jordan, Sina doesn't have to be as good as or better than Rysheed to help us; he only needs to be able to direct an offense better than Greene.
I would say it's possible that there may be an open scholarship -- some guys don't like to be repeatedly yanked out of the game before they've even had the chance to get going. Or worse still, not even inserted when the situation would seem to call for his particular skill set.
I did not say a recruit has to be better then Jordan but for this year with the limited space Coach is only looking for someone who can make a major difference now. If SJU was putting together a 5-6 man class then perhaps he is worth it.
And he is not better then Greene either right now or in high school.
People here bitch all the time that all Greene does is dribble in a circle. If Sina can avoid doing that, it would seem that he becomes a better backup point guard than Greene and allows Phil to move to SG. That is my point.
I know Lavin is only looking for a major difference maker, but signing no one isn't making any difference, much less a major one. I'm all for improving any way we can. If signing a Sina or Sina type improves us even a small amount, then I'm happy.
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If he's looking at a non-high major, dad went to Rhode Island, right? And there is a Jersey connection in place.
Also, if we miss on Jordan, Sina doesn't have to be as good as or better than Rysheed to help us; he only needs to be able to direct an offense better than Greene.
I would say it's possible that there may be an open scholarship -- some guys don't like to be repeatedly yanked out of the game before they've even had the chance to get going. Or worse still, not even inserted when the situation would seem to call for his particular skill set.
I did not say a recruit has to be better then Jordan but for this year with the limited space Coach is only looking for someone who can make a major difference now. If SJU was putting together a 5-6 man class then perhaps he is worth it.
And he is not better then Greene either right now or in high school.
People here bitch all the time that all Greene does is dribble in a circle. If Sina can avoid doing that, it would seem that he becomes a better backup point guard than Greene and allows Phil to move to SG. That is my point.
I know Lavin is only looking for a major difference maker, but signing no one isn't making any difference, much less a major one. I'm all for improving any way we can. If signing a Sina or Sina type improves us even a small amount, then I'm happy.
Greene does more than dribble around in a circle. Sometimes he does a figure 8.
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Fred Hill is a bad guy and was under cutting the coach @ FDU all season while angling for the job. Highly doubt he gets it anyway...
Jaren Sina is not going to FDU.
There is no disconnect between Sina & the SHU staff.
As I said in another thread... hiring Chris Collins might be the only way the kid sticks to the Northwestern commitment, if Collins even wants him.
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Adam Zagoria
@AdamZagoria
Northwestern AD Jim Phillips is flying in today to meet w/ commit Jaren Sina to talk about the program after Bill Carmody was fired
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Adam Zagoria
@AdamZagoria
Northwestern AD Jim Phillips is flying in today to meet w/ commit Jaren Sina to talk about the program after Bill Carmody was fired
Real simple conversation:
1) Here is why we dismissed Bill Carmody...
2) All we ask is that you be patient and wait for us to name the new head coach, then meet the new coach and if you still want to be released we will be accomodating.
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“@NJHoopsHaven: Northwestern has told Jaren Sina it will release him from his NLI. He will re-open but still consider Northwestern pending its new hire.”
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Full court press if it was me. I prefer the stability of a 4 yr guy and potentially our version of Archipoddamus to Jordan.
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“@ECoastBias: Re: Sina: the Hall needs talent, but has a PG. Rutgers needs talent, has 2 PGs. St. John's needs direction, looking at Philly's Jordan...”
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“@ECoastBias: Re: Sina: the Hall needs talent, but has a PG. Rutgers needs talent, has 2 PGs. St. John's needs direction, looking at Philly's Jordan...”
All true.
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I know Dave and others have said he might not be the best fit for our program - what are the reasons behind that thinking?
A top 100 PG opening up this late in the need - and our 1 need is PG - I would have to think we would at least inquire?
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“@ECoastBias: Re: Sina: the Hall needs talent, but has a PG. Rutgers needs talent, has 2 PGs. St. John's needs direction, looking at Philly's Jordan...”
I don't want him because we don't have a point guard. I want him because we lack smarts and shooting. I trust branch at the point.
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“@ECoastBias: Re: Sina: the Hall needs talent, but has a PG. Rutgers needs talent, has 2 PGs. St. John's needs direction, looking at Philly's Jordan...”
I don't want him because we don't have a point guard. I want him because we lack smarts and shooting. I trust branch at the point.
Me too. Never seen him play but I believe the knock on him is that he's more of an SG in a PG's body. Good news is that we need a guard of any kind who can shoot / make plays. He could be a fit in that role
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Classy move by Northwestern and their AD.
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“@TheRecruitScoop: 2013 PG Jaren Sina will be released from his letter of intent at Northwestern & has schools all over him - http://recruitscoop.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1485165 (http://recruitscoop.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1485165)”
Theo must have access. Anyone?
“@TheoRabinowitz: According to an article by @TheRecruitScoop, St. John's will be a possibility for Jaren Sina. #stjbb”
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I have a feeling we will be mentioned with quite a few transfers and renegs this spring.
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If he's a knockdown shooter and a smart player then we could really use him. If D'Angelo comes back we have enough next year without Jordan. I rather go for Sina, long term.
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Not sure why anyone would be against us getting this kid. Do we not complain constantly about having "too many athletes, not enough bball players"? Well here's a kid who can shoot, and supposedly has a high IQ, and is rivals top 150. What's the problem?
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We've watched Archipoddamus, Doolin, and other less athletic players school us over the years. Give me a 4 yr player like him any day of the week.
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We've watched Archipoddamus, Doolin, and other less athletic players school us over the years. Give me a 4 yr player like him any day of the week.
Agree
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If he's a knockdown shooter and a smart player then we could really use him. If D'Angelo comes back we have enough next year without Jordan. I rather go for Sina, long term.
Disagree. Rysheed's moved up to 5 star, and top 25 player in the class (currently #22 per ESPN). You have a chance to land a top 25 player you TAKE him. A top 25 talent is a huge step up for our recruiting. As Far as I can tell, SJU hasn't landed a top 25 recruit in more than a decade (Sir Dom is our highers at #35).
Sina's a nice player but the highest I've seen him ranked is 24th best at his posiition - unranked in the top 100s.
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If he's a knockdown shooter and a smart player then we could really use him. If D'Angelo comes back we have enough next year without Jordan. I rather go for Sina, long term.
Disagree. Rysheed's moved up to 5 star, and top 25 player in the class (currently #22 per ESPN). You have a chance to land a top 25 player you TAKE him. A top 25 talent is a huge step up for our recruiting. As Far as I can tell, SJU hasn't landed a top 25 recruit in more than a decade (Sir Dom is our highers at #35).
Sina's a nice player but the highest I've seen him ranked is 24th best at his posiition - unranked in the top 100s.
Dom was 25th by espn if I'm not mistaken.
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We need a smart guard who can shoot. Sina is both of those things. Not saying he's Rysheed, but he's crafty and can stick the outside shot. I love Rysheed's game, but we might get left behind with him. Maybe Dave is right and that Sina's not worth pursuing, but somehow I think he might be able to help us run our offense better, and at worst he's a backup PG. Rysheed should be pursued first for sure, but I'd take a commit from Sina if Jordan chooses another school. Kid reminds me of Kyle McAlarney and we could do much worse.
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We need a smart guard who can shoot. Sina is both of those things. Not saying he's Rysheed, but he's crafty and can stick the outside shot. I love Rysheed's game, but we might get left behind with him. Maybe Dave is right and that Sina's not worth pursuing, but somehow I think he might be able to help us run our offense better, and at worst he's a backup PG. Rysheed should be pursued first for sure, but I'd take a commit from Sina if Jordan chooses another school. Kid reminds me of Kyle McAlarney and we could do much worse.
CR is spot on. If you have a chance it is Rysheed by a country mile. Norm Roberts settles for Sina.
And Kyle McALarney is not analogous to Sina.
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If he's a knockdown shooter and a smart player then we could really use him. If D'Angelo comes back we have enough next year without Jordan. I rather go for Sina, long term.
Disagree. Rysheed's moved up to 5 star, and top 25 player in the class (currently #22 per ESPN). You have a chance to land a top 25 player you TAKE him. A top 25 talent is a huge step up for our recruiting. As Far as I can tell, SJU hasn't landed a top 25 recruit in more than a decade (Sir Dom is our highers at #35).
Sina's a nice player but the highest I've seen him ranked is 24th best at his posiition - unranked in the top 100s.
Dom was #25 in ESPN's final rankings.
http://espn.go.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/playerrankings/_/class/2011/view/super60/sort/rank/order/true (http://espn.go.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/playerrankings/_/class/2011/view/super60/sort/rank/order/true)
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What Moose said x100. It's a no brainer for this program.
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Based on what others have said, seems to me that he is going to end up at Seton Hall. Rutgers has Mack, who will be good next year (not sure who East Coast bias thinks is there other PG, because Carter isn't one IMO). And I don't know who East Coast bias believes is Hall's PG. I don't see one.
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I just want stability. I see upperclassmen leading these teams in the Dance. Rysheed has been quoted numerous times about his desire for NBA. Mentioned how he wants to support his siblings etc. Everyone knows my take on the lack of names in 14. Sina would be a stable force IMO.
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Based on what others have said, seems to me that he is going to end up at Seton Hall. Rutgers has Mack, who will be good next year (not sure who East Coast bias thinks is there other PG, because Carter isn't one IMO). And I don't know who East Coast bias believes is Hall's PG. I don't see one.
Rutgers has seagars. Seton hall has Gibbs and Mayan.
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Well I give up.
If you want 4 year kids the 14 and 15 classes will provide opportunities.
I want to win big and have superior talent. MCW stays 2 years but you get Ennis.
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Well I give up.
If you want 4 year kids the 14 and 15 classes will provide opportunities.
I want to win big and have superior talent. MCW stays 2 years but you get Ennis.
Hey we each have opinions and favorites. I don't think Jordan wants to be in college for very long. Great talent but joining an already crowded backcourt he's going to want his shots out of the gate.
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Well I give up.
If you want 4 year kids the 14 and 15 classes will provide opportunities.
I want to win big and have superior talent. MCW stays 2 years but you get Ennis.
Hey we each have opinions and favorites. I don't think Jordan wants to be in college for very long. Great talent but joining an already crowded backcourt he's going to want his shots out of the gate.
How long is not too long, 2 years?
Would you take Mudiay? That kid is 1 and done definitely.
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Well I give up.
If you want 4 year kids the 14 and 15 classes will provide opportunities.
I want to win big and have superior talent. MCW stays 2 years but you get Ennis.
Hey we each have opinions and favorites. I don't think Jordan wants to be in college for very long. Great talent but joining an already crowded backcourt he's going to want his shots out of the gate.
How long is not too long, 2 years?
Would you take Mudiay? That kid is 1 and done definitely.
Yeah I'd take Mudiay but he's on another level from Jordan to me. Jordan isn't an McDonalds AA. Mudiay is. Hardly the end all be all factor but it drives home my point.
I want to build a roster. I just don't want to grab these kids just to grab these kids because they are athletic freaks. I want to build a team.
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Well I give up.
If you want 4 year kids the 14 and 15 classes will provide opportunities.
I want to win big and have superior talent. MCW stays 2 years but you get Ennis.
Hey we each have opinions and favorites. I don't think Jordan wants to be in college for very long. Great talent but joining an already crowded backcourt he's going to want his shots out of the gate.
How long is not too long, 2 years?
Would you take Mudiay? That kid is 1 and done definitely.
Yeah I'd take Mudiay but he's on another level from Jordan to me. Jordan isn't an McDonalds AA. Mudiay is. Hardly the end all be all factor but it drives home my point.
I want to build a roster. I just don't want to grab these kids just to grab these kids because they are athletic freaks. Give me some smarter players on the court. I want to build a team.
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Well I give up.
If you want 4 year kids the 14 and 15 classes will provide opportunities.
I want to win big and have superior talent. MCW stays 2 years but you get Ennis.
Hey we each have opinions and favorites. I don't think Jordan wants to be in college for very long. Great talent but joining an already crowded backcourt he's going to want his shots out of the gate.
How long is not too long, 2 years?
Would you take Mudiay? That kid is 1 and done definitely.
Yeah I'd take Mudiay but he's on another level from Jordan to me. Jordan isn't an McDonalds AA. Mudiay is. Hardly the end all be all factor but it drives home my point.
I want to build a roster. I just don't want to grab these kids just to grab these kids because they are athletic freaks. Give me some smarter players on the court. I want to build a team.
Jordan is a 5 star kid and can start immediately.
But here is my my point. SJU has Greene, Jones, Balamou, Branch and JUCOs. There is no evidence to suggest just because Lavin pursues Jordan over Sina that somehow he is sacrificing the future for now. First off Jordan is not a 1 and done. Which means he is at least a 2 year player. Everyone is using the premise that pursuing Jordan over Sina assumes that is what Lavin wants to do. That IMHO is a false premise. Lavin is pursuing Jordan for the same reason Temple and UCLA are because he is an immediate impact player. And I like that philosophy.
Not against Sina other then he is very limited sans as a good shooter. He doesn't make them better next year and there are plenty of Sina's in 14 and 15. There aren't plenty of Jordan's.
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Well I give up.
If you want 4 year kids the 14 and 15 classes will provide opportunities.
I want to win big and have superior talent. MCW stays 2 years but you get Ennis.
Hey we each have opinions and favorites. I don't think Jordan wants to be in college for very long. Great talent but joining an already crowded backcourt he's going to want his shots out of the gate.
How long is not too long, 2 years?
Would you take Mudiay? That kid is 1 and done definitely.
Yeah I'd take Mudiay but he's on another level from Jordan to me. Jordan isn't an McDonalds AA. Mudiay is. Hardly the end all be all factor but it drives home my point.
I want to build a roster. I just don't want to grab these kids just to grab these kids because they are athletic freaks. Give me some smarter players on the court. I want to build a team.
Jordan is a 5 star kid and can start immediately.
But here is my my point. SJU has Greene, Jones, Balamou, Branch and JUCOs. There is no evidence to suggest just because Lavin pursues Jordan over Sina that somehow he is sacrificing the future for now. First off Jordan is not a 1 and done. Which means he is at least a 2 year player. Everyone is using the premise that pursuing Jordan over Sina assumes that is what Lavin wants to do. That IMHO is a false premise. Lavin is pursuing Jordan for the same reason Temple and UCLA are because he is an immediate impact player. And I like that philosophy.
Not against Sina other then he is very limited other then as a good shooter. He doesn't make them better next year and there are plenty of Sina's in 14 and 15. There aren't plenty of Jordan's.
Interesting group of guys you listed there. Left out Harrison for instance.
I disagree on Sina as I think he is a good distributor of the ball. Hey if Harrison aint around we'd have room for both guys. I'm not confident in any player that highly rated being around two years. Basing it off history of players leaving and quotes from this kid who wants to play at the next level and soon.
There are plenty of Sina's and Jordan's in '14. We just arent listed with them, or have been :)
My preference if given the choice (and Harrison back) is Sina.
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Well I give up.
If you want 4 year kids the 14 and 15 classes will provide opportunities.
I want to win big and have superior talent. MCW stays 2 years but you get Ennis.
Hey we each have opinions and favorites. I don't think Jordan wants to be in college for very long. Great talent but joining an already crowded backcourt he's going to want his shots out of the gate.
How long is not too long, 2 years?
Would you take Mudiay? That kid is 1 and done definitely.
Yeah I'd take Mudiay but he's on another level from Jordan to me. Jordan isn't an McDonalds AA. Mudiay is. Hardly the end all be all factor but it drives home my point.
I want to build a roster. I just don't want to grab these kids just to grab these kids because they are athletic freaks. Give me some smarter players on the court. I want to build a team.
Jordan is a 5 star kid and can start immediately.
But here is my my point. SJU has Greene, Jones, Balamou, Branch and JUCOs. There is no evidence to suggest just because Lavin pursues Jordan over Sina that somehow he is sacrificing the future for now. First off Jordan is not a 1 and done. Which means he is at least a 2 year player. Everyone is using the premise that pursuing Jordan over Sina assumes that is what Lavin wants to do. That IMHO is a false premise. Lavin is pursuing Jordan for the same reason Temple and UCLA are because he is an immediate impact player. And I like that philosophy.
Not against Sina other then he is very limited other then as a good shooter. He doesn't make them better next year and there are plenty of Sina's in 14 and 15. There aren't plenty of Jordan's.
Interesting group of guys you listed there. Left out Harrison for instance.
I disagree on Sina as I think he is a good distributor of the ball. Hey if Harrison aint around we'd have room for both guys. I'm not confident in any player that highly rated being around two years. Basing it off history of players leaving and quotes from this kid who wants to play at the next level and soon.
There are plenty of Sina's and Jordan's in '14. We just arent listed with them, or have been :)
My preference if given the choice (and Harrison back) is Sina.
Carrington is better then Sina and better for us and he is a 4 year player.
There are 5 or 6 Jordan's and there are 15-20 Sina's. He isn't even top 100.
Time to go to sleep....lol!
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Well I give up.
If you want 4 year kids the 14 and 15 classes will provide opportunities.
I want to win big and have superior talent. MCW stays 2 years but you get Ennis.
Hey we each have opinions and favorites. I don't think Jordan wants to be in college for very long. Great talent but joining an already crowded backcourt he's going to want his shots out of the gate.
How long is not too long, 2 years?
Would you take Mudiay? That kid is 1 and done definitely.
Yeah I'd take Mudiay but he's on another level from Jordan to me. Jordan isn't an McDonalds AA. Mudiay is. Hardly the end all be all factor but it drives home my point.
I want to build a roster. I just don't want to grab these kids just to grab these kids because they are athletic freaks. Give me some smarter players on the court. I want to build a team.
Jordan is a 5 star kid and can start immediately.
But here is my my point. SJU has Greene, Jones, Balamou, Branch and JUCOs. There is no evidence to suggest just because Lavin pursues Jordan over Sina that somehow he is sacrificing the future for now. First off Jordan is not a 1 and done. Which means he is at least a 2 year player. Everyone is using the premise that pursuing Jordan over Sina assumes that is what Lavin wants to do. That IMHO is a false premise. Lavin is pursuing Jordan for the same reason Temple and UCLA are because he is an immediate impact player. And I like that philosophy.
Not against Sina other then he is very limited other then as a good shooter. He doesn't make them better next year and there are plenty of Sina's in 14 and 15. There aren't plenty of Jordan's.
Interesting group of guys you listed there. Left out Harrison for instance.
I disagree on Sina as I think he is a good distributor of the ball. Hey if Harrison aint around we'd have room for both guys. I'm not confident in any player that highly rated being around two years. Basing it off history of players leaving and quotes from this kid who wants to play at the next level and soon.
There are plenty of Sina's and Jordan's in '14. We just arent listed with them, or have been :)
My preference if given the choice (and Harrison back) is Sina.
Carrington is better then Sina and better for us and he is a 4 year player.
There are 5 or 6 Jordan's and there are 15-20 Sina's. He isn't even top 100.
Time to go to sleep....lol!
No way is Carrington better than Sina. Wow.
But yes Carrington does fit in better since he can join the gang that can't shoot.
Trey Burke was 142
Goodnight :)
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Well I give up.
If you want 4 year kids the 14 and 15 classes will provide opportunities.
I want to win big and have superior talent. MCW stays 2 years but you get Ennis.
Hey we each have opinions and favorites. I don't think Jordan wants to be in college for very long. Great talent but joining an already crowded backcourt he's going to want his shots out of the gate.
How long is not too long, 2 years?
Would you take Mudiay? That kid is 1 and done definitely.
Yeah I'd take Mudiay but he's on another level from Jordan to me. Jordan isn't an McDonalds AA. Mudiay is. Hardly the end all be all factor but it drives home my point.
I want to build a roster. I just don't want to grab these kids just to grab these kids because they are athletic freaks. Give me some smarter players on the court. I want to build a team.
Jordan is a 5 star kid and can start immediately.
But here is my my point. SJU has Greene, Jones, Balamou, Branch and JUCOs. There is no evidence to suggest just because Lavin pursues Jordan over Sina that somehow he is sacrificing the future for now. First off Jordan is not a 1 and done. Which means he is at least a 2 year player. Everyone is using the premise that pursuing Jordan over Sina assumes that is what Lavin wants to do. That IMHO is a false premise. Lavin is pursuing Jordan for the same reason Temple and UCLA are because he is an immediate impact player. And I like that philosophy.
Not against Sina other then he is very limited other then as a good shooter. He doesn't make them better next year and there are plenty of Sina's in 14 and 15. There aren't plenty of Jordan's.
Interesting group of guys you listed there. Left out Harrison for instance.
I disagree on Sina as I think he is a good distributor of the ball. Hey if Harrison aint around we'd have room for both guys. I'm not confident in any player that highly rated being around two years. Basing it off history of players leaving and quotes from this kid who wants to play at the next level and soon.
There are plenty of Sina's and Jordan's in '14. We just arent listed with them, or have been :)
My preference if given the choice (and Harrison back) is Sina.
Carrington is better then Sina and better for us and he is a 4 year player.
There are 5 or 6 Jordan's and there are 15-20 Sina's. He isn't even top 100.
Time to go to sleep....lol!
No way is Carrington better than Sina. Wow.
But yes Carrington does fit in better since he can join the gang that can't shoot.
Trey Burke was 142
Goodnight :)
Never seen Sina play but if he's Better than Carrington then there is no way we can pass on him. I don't think we are in a position yet where we can pass on 4 star players if they are interested in playing in Queens
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1. Jaren Sina, a top recruit out of New Jersey for Northwestern, was granted a release by NU AD Jim Phillips Monday, according to the Chicago Tribune. Sina may still go to Northwestern, his father was quoted by the Trib. But the actions of Phillips should be applauded. He took the time to fly out to New Jersey Monday upon making the decision of firing Bill Carmody. He wanted to talk to the prospective recruit and make an attempt to keep him but at the same time honor the family's request. There is no reason to turn this into some protracted fight when a player may not want to attend the school. The genuine gesture by Phillips would likely be respected by the Sina family if they connect with the new hire. Northwestern could easily play hard ball and not release Sina. But what would that prove? Phillips is being a hands-on athletic director, trying to get this hire right with the correct fit and at the same time ensuring there is a comfort level with the incoming players. More ADs should take note.
“@eamonnbrennan: 3-point shot: Coaches under tighter scrutiny http://es.pn/XYhoHH (http://es.pn/XYhoHH)”
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From ESPN scouting:
"Sina is a super skilled guard with a lethal jumpshot. He has an effortless stroke which is automatic when in rhythm from anywhere inside 25 feet...He is a pinpoint passer, and has a tremendously high basketball IQ."
I want him on this team.
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“@AdamZagoria: St. John's is not involved with PG Jaren Sina, hia father tells @SNYtv. Johnnies focused on @sheedjordan for 2013”
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“@AdamZagoria: St. John's is not involved with PG Jaren Sina, hia father tells @SNYtv. Johnnies focused on @sheedjordan for 2013”
Fordham rejoices :)
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From ESPN scouting:
"Sina is a super skilled guard with a lethal jumpshot. He has an effortless stroke which is automatic when in rhythm from anywhere inside 25 feet...He is a pinpoint passer, and has a tremendously high basketball IQ."
I want him on this team.
A high basketball IQ w a lethal jumpshot, I can see why he isnt a good fit LOL.
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Sounds like an deal back up plan if Jordan goes elsewhere.
Dave, PMG, and Fordham seem pretty confident he isn't a BE player, so I'll defer to them. Sorry Moose. I've never seen the kid play, so tough for me to kill staff for not going after him.
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From ESPN scouting:
"Sina is a super skilled guard with a lethal jumpshot. He has an effortless stroke which is automatic when in rhythm from anywhere inside 25 feet...He is a pinpoint passer, and has a tremendously high basketball IQ."
I want him on this team.
He sounds too smart for us. We don't play smart.
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Sounds like an deal back up plan if Jordan goes elsewhere.
Dave, PMG, and Fordham seem pretty confident he isn't a BE player, so I'll defer to them. Sorry Moose. I've never seen the kid play, so tough for me to kill staff for not going after him.
I don't think any of them are saying he isn't a BE player. I could be wrong but Dave just said he didn't fit in, PMG said Hall who is a BE team (hold jokes) and then Fordham is valuing Jordan because of the higher ranking. Look at the list of schools after him and its clear he's a Major recruit.
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Well, then he sounds like a great back up plan if Jordan bails.
Hopefully the staff, if they aren't interested, has someone else in mind as a back up plan.
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I went back and re read the thread. I stand corrected. Don't want to attribute something to people that they didn't say. My bad.
Sign him up.
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I went back and re read the thread. I stand corrected. Don't want to attribute something to people that they didn't say. My bad.
Sign him up.
Don't worry, we're not considering him :) He shoots too good :)
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If you had your pick ....
Sina or Severe?
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If you had your pick ....
Sina or Severe?
Sina
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Interesting JJ commentary a couple of years ago;
http://johnnyjungle.com/recruiting/have-you-sina/ (http://johnnyjungle.com/recruiting/have-you-sina/)
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Interesting JJ commentary a couple of years ago;
http://johnnyjungle.com/recruiting/have-you-sina/ (http://johnnyjungle.com/recruiting/have-you-sina/)
I remember that article well, catchy title, thats why I was surprised when Dave said we werent interested.
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“@AdamZagoria: St. John's is not involved with PG Jaren Sina, hia father tells @SNYtv. Johnnies focused on @sheedjordan for 2013”
Maybe Lavin is confident in getting Jordan
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I was not a fan of Jaren's game earier in his high school career. I thought if he didn't grow he would face difficulties. I was wrong. His team has been playing a solid schedule since his Sophomore year and he pumped in over 2,000 points in high school.
While he is not as big as his Dad, Mergin is 6'5 - 6'6... he is not small and he does everything well... he will need to get stronger but he is going to be a solid 4 year player in college...
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Well I give up.
If you want 4 year kids the 14 and 15 classes will provide opportunities.
I want to win big and have superior talent. MCW stays 2 years but you get Ennis.
Hey we each have opinions and favorites. I don't think Jordan wants to be in college for very long. Great talent but joining an already crowded backcourt he's going to want his shots out of the gate.
How long is not too long, 2 years?
Would you take Mudiay? That kid is 1 and done definitely.
Yeah I'd take Mudiay but he's on another level from Jordan to me. Jordan isn't an McDonalds AA. Mudiay is. Hardly the end all be all factor but it drives home my point.
I want to build a roster. I just don't want to grab these kids just to grab these kids because they are athletic freaks. Give me some smarter players on the court. I want to build a team.
Jordan is a 5 star kid and can start immediately.
But here is my my point. SJU has Greene, Jones, Balamou, Branch and JUCOs. There is no evidence to suggest just because Lavin pursues Jordan over Sina that somehow he is sacrificing the future for now. First off Jordan is not a 1 and done. Which means he is at least a 2 year player. Everyone is using the premise that pursuing Jordan over Sina assumes that is what Lavin wants to do. That IMHO is a false premise. Lavin is pursuing Jordan for the same reason Temple and UCLA are because he is an immediate impact player. And I like that philosophy.
Not against Sina other then he is very limited sans as a good shooter. He doesn't make them better next year and there are plenty of Sina's in 14 and 15. There aren't plenty of Jordan's.
If I was a parent of an athlete I wouldn't let him sign an loi that didn't have an out clause if the coach isn't there anymore
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St. John's style of play isn't good for Sina. Sina would benefit from a more structured half court offense and allowing him to come off staggers. It's not as simple as St. John's needs shooters and Sina is a shooter.
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St. John's style of play isn't good for Sina. Sina would benefit from a more structured half court offense and allowing him to come off staggers. It's not as simple as St. John's needs shooters and Sina is a shooter.
What are you talking about?
We have a half court offense?
:)
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St. John's style of play isn't good for Sina. Sina would benefit from a more structured half court offense and allowing him to come off staggers. It's not as simple as St. John's needs shooters and Sina is a shooter.
It should be that simple but we don't have a system. Everything we do is one on one with a ball screen. I'm hoping we get away from that a little and start running some more off the ball screens to set up shooters.
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St. John's style of play isn't good for Sina. Sina would benefit from a more structured half court offense and allowing him to come off staggers. It's not as simple as St. John's needs shooters and Sina is a shooter.
Maybe I'm just not smart enough (and, really, I'm not that smart---especially when it comes to basketball) but if the kid knows how to get open, and he is a good shooter, then why can't he play for us. He may not be the guy going above the rim to finish the break with a slam, but I'm sure we can get him open for the shot. Also, we need a good ball handler. I like Branch, and think he will be a good pg for us, but we need someone to back him up
One of the faults I find with Marco is that he doesn't know how to get open (at least not yet). People are always saying that he is open and Phil is ignoring him, but to me, too many times, he is standing still looking for the pass. And when he does get the pass, the defender has time to defend the shot. Marco is, as a result, rushing the shot. I think that will improve next year, as he adjusts to the speed of the game at this level.
As I said in an earlier post, I love kids who are son's of coaches. Look at a McDermott or McCallum. They start out with an advantage. Maybe Jaren should change his last name to McSina.
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St. John's style of play isn't good for Sina. Sina would benefit from a more structured half court offense and allowing him to come off staggers. It's not as simple as St. John's needs shooters and Sina is a shooter.
Maybe I'm just not smart enough (and, really, I'm not that smart---especially when it comes to basketball) but if the kid knows how to get open, and he is a good shooter, then why can't he play for us. He may not be the guy going above the rim to finish the break with a slam, but I'm sure we can get him open for the shot. Also, we need a good ball handler. I like Branch, and think he will be a good pg for us, but we need someone to back him up
One of the faults I find with Marco is that he doesn't know how to get open (at least not yet). People are always saying that he is open and Phil is ignoring him, but to me, too many times, he is standing still looking for the pass. And when he does get the pass, the defender has time to defend the shot. Marco is, as a result, rushing the shot. I think that will improve next year, as he adjusts to the speed of the game at this level.
As I said in an earlier post, I love kids who are son's of coaches. Look at a McDermott or McCallum. They start out with an advantage. Maybe Jaren should change his last name to McSina.
You're smart enough, good points.
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St. John's style of play isn't good for Sina. Sina would benefit from a more structured half court offense and allowing him to come off staggers. It's not as simple as St. John's needs shooters and Sina is a shooter.
It should be that simple but we don't have a system. Everything we do is one on one with a ball screen. I'm hoping we get away from that a little and start running some more off the ball screens to set up shooters.
I agree 100%. We set the screen for the guy with the ball but we don't do anything after that. There is no roll following the pick; the ball handler doesn't get open for a shot; and we are forced to just run perpetual screens with no end result.
We should be setting screens off the ball and get shooters open. Of course, that means we need guys to move without the ball and we need them to hit shots when they get open.
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Listen, if Lavin thinks we can land Jordan, then by all means its worth it. He's better than Sina. I have no problem with that. With Howland seemingly not safe lately, it makes me think we still have a decent shot.
I wouldn't be surprised if Sina looked at some of the new Big East members like Butler, Creighton or Xavier. All will be looking to upgrade their talent and they might be a good fit.
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A less than objective source but;
“@SOrangeJuice: Hearing Seton Hall is in very good shape with 2013 G Jaren Sina (Gill St. Bernards, NJ), who recently received release from NW. #shbb”
“@SOrangeJuice: Other than Seton Hall, I've been told that Northwestern, Alabama, Clemson and Rutgers will also be part of his, "trimmed" list. #shbb”
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A less than objective source but;
“@SOrangeJuice: Hearing Seton Hall is in very good shape with 2013 G Jaren Sina (Gill St. Bernards, NJ), who recently received release from NW. #shbb”
“@SOrangeJuice: Other than Seton Hall, I've been told that Northwestern, Alabama, Clemson and Rutgers will also be part of his, "trimmed" list. #shbb”
Weird list of schools that you usually don't see grouped together. I agree with MCNPA -- he should at the very least check out Xavier.
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We probably haven't shown interest, but I love what I've seen of this kid. I especially love that some on this board think that he wouldn't fit in here. So, I guess maybe he's not another brick-laying super-athlete who can't hit a free throw.
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In any sport there are talented guys who aren't good fits in some styles. In football a very talented cornerback might be better suited to play press man than zone. If you play him zone he won't be as good as if he played press man despite being very good player.
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In any sport there are talented guys who aren't good fits in some styles. In football a very talented cornerback might be better suited to play press man than zone. If you play him zone he won't be as good as if he played press man despite being very good player.
We have 10 guys that can't shoot, including the French guy who brought in to shoot. I don't understand how Sina isn't a player we aren't all over. We have a low basketball IQ across most positions, and we pass the ball like we've been playing together for a few minutes.
Maybe recruiting guys that fit our style of play IS the problem.
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From that photo, he appears to have really filled out. Anyone?
“@EvanDanielsFOX: Jaren Sina gets release from Northwestern. Interest pouring in. Has at least two schools he wants to visit ... http://scouthoops.scout.com/2/1276644.html (http://scouthoops.scout.com/2/1276644.html)”
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“Definitely Alabama and probably Seton Hall because they are local,” Sina said. “With the rest of them I’m going to have to continue to talk to coaches and get back to a lot of people.”
Per the scout article.
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“Definitely Alabama and probably Seton Hall because they are local,” Sina said. “With the rest of them I’m going to have to continue to talk to coaches and get back to a lot of people.”
Per the scout article.
Thanks Fordham
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In any sport there are talented guys who aren't good fits in some styles. In football a very talented cornerback might be better suited to play press man than zone. If you play him zone he won't be as good as if he played press man despite being very good player.
We have 10 guys that can't shoot, including the French guy who brought in to shoot. I don't understand how Sina isn't a player we aren't all over. We have a low basketball IQ across most positions, and we pass the ball like we've been playing together for a few minutes.
Maybe recruiting guys that fit our style of play IS the problem.
I agree. If we dont get Jorden and DLO doesnt return we certainly could use a smart,shooter.Nice to have a plan B for Jorden,unless Lavin knows DLO is returning.
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SH in home visit tomorrow.
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Alabama was in the home last night...
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“@TheRecruitScoop: Indiana is now involved with 2013 PG Jaren Sina, who is focusing on Northwestern, Seton Hall & Alabama, but remains wide open, per a source.”
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“@TheRecruitScoop: Indiana is now involved with 2013 PG Jaren Sina, who is focusing on Northwestern, Seton Hall & Alabama, but remains wide open, per a source.”
Where are those who questioned how good he was? ;)
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“@TheRecruitScoop: Indiana is now involved with 2013 PG Jaren Sina, who is focusing on Northwestern, Seton Hall & Alabama, but remains wide open, per a source.”
Where are those who questioned how good he was? ;)
Ha
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“@TheRecruitScoop: Indiana is now involved with 2013 PG Jaren Sina, who is focusing on Northwestern, Seton Hall & Alabama, but remains wide open, per a source.”
Funny how these "scribes"react to each other.
“@AdamZagoria: As previously reported last week, Indiana, Purdue & Georgia reached out to Jaren Sina, but he's focusing on SHU, Alabama & Northwestern”
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“@TheRecruitScoop: Indiana is now involved with 2013 PG Jaren Sina, who is focusing on Northwestern, Seton Hall & Alabama, but remains wide open, per a source.”
Where are those who questioned how good he was? ;)
Who said IU was any good???? LOL!!!
BTW-I am fascinated by the consistency of the statement that you are "focused" on 3 schools but at the same time are "wide open."
Someone needs to explain this to me.
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Looks like Duke assistant Chris Collins has the Northwestern job. Something more for Sina to consider.
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“@NJHoopsHaven: The Sinas will be speaking with Indiana tonight. A fourth school now in the process.”
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“@NJHoopsHaven: The Sinas will be speaking with Indiana tonight. A fourth school now in the process.”
Jordan hulls 2.0
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Looks like Duke assistant Chris Collins has the Northwestern job. Something more for Sina to consider.
Not sure that this will be viewed as a huge plus
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Good chance Fred Hill will stay on at Northwestern. If that is the case look for Sina to recommit.
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Good chance Fred Hill will stay on at Northwestern. If that is the case look for Sina to recommit.
How about a little side wager that he doesn't go to Northwestern.. lets say a beer at MSG next season..?
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Good chance Fred Hill will stay on at Northwestern. If that is the case look for Sina to recommit.
How about a little side wager that he doesn't go to Northwestern.. lets say a beer at MSG next season..?
Sounds like SH in good position?
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How about a little side wager that he doesn't go to Northwestern.. lets say a beer at MSG next season..?
I'd buy beers just to watch that ;)
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“@HoosierSource: FOXSports reporting that Jaren Sina has in-home visits with HCs from #Indiana and Northwestern this week. Crean going himself is a big deal.”
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“@HoosierSource: FOXSports reporting that Jaren Sina has in-home visits with HCs from #Indiana and Northwestern this week. Crean going himself is a big deal.”
Losing Oladipo makes IU mighty interesting
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“@HoosierSource: FOXSports reporting that Jaren Sina has in-home visits with HCs from #Indiana and Northwestern this week. Crean going himself is a big deal.”
Losing Oladipo makes IU mighty interesting
He is IU's to lose imo
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“@HoosierSource: FOXSports reporting that Jaren Sina has in-home visits with HCs from #Indiana and Northwestern this week. Crean going himself is a big deal.”
Well it looks like he needs to reschedule his Bama visit because it conflicts with his game on Saturday so he should have time to host in-homes.
Two interesting points:
1) They met already with Crean:
http://zagsblog.com/articles/sina-meets-with-indiana-talks-to-collins/ (http://zagsblog.com/articles/sina-meets-with-indiana-talks-to-collins/)
2) Why would Northwestern allow him to go to another Big 10 school? Make his release conditional. And I know the Big 10 has a similar rule to the Big East in that they don't allow intra-conference transfers. Although that ruled has been challenged on appeal and the Big 10 has allowed that type of transfer in the case of a coaching change. See Ben Brust getting released from Iowa in 2010 and being allowed to transfer to Wisconsin.
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Hope SH gets him, but looks like a dog fight;
“@SOrangeJuice: With dead period over, 2013 G Jaren Sina visiting the Crimson Tide today. #shbb RT @JarenSina: Just landed in Birmingham #rolltide”
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Hope SH gets him, but looks like a dog fight;
“@SOrangeJuice: With dead period over, 2013 G Jaren Sina visiting the Crimson Tide today. #shbb RT @JarenSina: Just landed in Birmingham #rolltide”
Agree...we need the league to have some buzz...
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Hope SH gets him, but looks like a dog fight;
“@SOrangeJuice: With dead period over, 2013 G Jaren Sina visiting the Crimson Tide today. #shbb RT @JarenSina: Just landed in Birmingham #rolltide”
Agree...we need the league to have some buzz...
I have a hunch that the potential hiring of Freddie Hill Jr is an attempt to lock this kid up.
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Looks like he wants to visit IU before he makes his final decision:
http://scoop.hoosiershq.com/2013/04/sinas-father-hes-a-winner/ (http://scoop.hoosiershq.com/2013/04/sinas-father-hes-a-winner/)
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The Seton Hall guys are saying he's a near lock for SHU.
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The Seton Hall guys are saying he's a near lock for SHU.
I know they actually said that a month ago before he even got his release. I wonder what odds they give:
98.7%: SHU
1.0%: IU
.2%: Bama
.1%: NW
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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I hope he goes there. Whereas before I didnt mind other teams being doormats I want all the new Big East teams to do well.
I cant even believe I'm going to be rooting for Gtown. Damn that's going to be weird
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I hope he goes there. Whereas before I didnt mind other teams being doormats I want all the new Big East teams to do well.
I cant even believe I'm going to be rooting for Gtown. Damn that's going to be weird
This league is going to be pretty deep. We could use a steady doormat or two.
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I also would like to see Sina go to the Hall.
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So many pages so many posts about this guy who was off the radar ages or so ago.
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Evan Daniels @EvanDanielsFOX 49s
Jaren Sina just informed Scout that he has committed to Seton Hall.
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Sina committed to Seton Hall
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Not looking forward to seeing him play us the next few years.
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Great for the Big East making it more competitive.
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it's great for the "new" conference. the big east can't use bottom feeders.
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Thats all well and good. But every conference has bottom feeders. So that needs to be realized.
He was a guy I thought we could use. So thats why I'm not a fan of seeing him play us moving forward.
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it's great for the "new" conference. the big east can't use bottom feeders.
I totally agree. We've lost a lot of firepower. Cup cakes don't help anyone. Seton Hall, unfortunately, is probably still going to be one.
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The way I see it is, here's 1 less team other conference fans can make fun of if he turns out to be good. Don't get me wrong, we should be way better than SH, but it would be nice to see them as a bubble team to show how deep our conference is. The only team that is the clear red-haired step sister is DePaul. Even with very good players they couldn't get it done. Melvin, Young, and Crockett are all good players. Not totally sure but I think they picked up a good recruit recently forget the name. Anyway, I think it's funny when people try to make the case that the AAC is just as good as the Big East. It's only a matter of time until UConn and Cincy find major conference homes...they have too much to offer not to. Even with UConn, Cincy, Memphis, Temple, the Big East easily wins out. Those teams are easily matched (and exceeded) immediately with G'Town, Nova, Marquette, Butler. Plus, we have St. John's and Providence teams teeming with talent after 17 and 18 win years respectively both as bubble teams. Add Creighton and Xavier and it's really no contest.
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The hiring of Fred hill definitely had to do with the commitment .
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The hiring of Fred hill definitely had to do with the commitment .
It helped but was not THE reason.
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The hiring of Fred hill definitely had to do with the commitment .
It helped but was not THE reason.
Fred "the closer" Hill
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The hiring of Fred hill definitely had to do with the commitment .
It helped but was not THE reason.
“@BrendanPrunty: Sina told me a big factor in his decision to go to Seton Hall was ability to play right away. Plus, chance to stay in NJ.”
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The hiring of Fred hill definitely had to do with the commitment .
It helped but was not THE reason.
Fred "the closer" Hill
Still doesn't beat Steve "Mariano" Lavin.
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The hiring of Fred hill definitely had to do with the commitment .
It helped but was not THE reason.
“@BrendanPrunty: Sina told me a big factor in his decision to go to Seton Hall was ability to play right away. Plus, chance to stay in NJ.”
Oh there is no doubt he will get big minutes right away.
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Willard has a guy to do the dirty work now
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Thought Shaheen was supposed to be that guy ..
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Thought Shaheen was supposed to be that guy ..
Obviously not getting it done
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Hall needs to surround him wit talent.
Otherwise you lookin at another Sheen career - good, but what could have been.
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Hall needs to surround him wit talent.
Otherwise you lookin at another Sheen career - good, but what could have been.
What you mean? Darius Lane and Ty Shine were the class of the big east
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Great for Seton Hall. They could use some good news
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The hiring of Fred hill definitely had to do with the commitment .
It helped but was not THE reason.
Fred "the closer" Hill
I don't get how he is able to connect with kids. He looks like a dweeb and everyone knows he's crazy. Is he the most hilarious guy ever?
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Maybe it's not the kids he connects with ...
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Maybe it's not the kids he connects with ...
Bagman?
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Maybe it's not the kids he connects with ...
Bagman?
Send the bag to the immediately eligible big man from Tulane. The Hall could use the help.
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Freddie and Dick Codey are boys
And Codey got some mad pull.
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Maybe it's not the kids he connects with ...
Maybe its the other assistant that closed with the kid, the same assistant who has built a relationship with the kid for 3 years.
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I meant that Hill has good connections in the AAU/HS and in this area genearlly. I'm sure his presence plus the other assistants who have been on Sina for years are what got it done (As PMG alluded).