6th Man of St. John's Basketball
St. John's Red Storm => In The Jungle... => Topic started by: Marco Baldi on December 20, 2016, 03:49:57 PM
-
We may catch a break. Tyler Lydon game time decision.
Nothing to lose here. Run, run and run some more.
-
We'll be up to chuck up 3s at will against their zone. If we shoot like we did against Tulane, or last year against Cuse, we have a chance. If not, we could lose by 40 easily.
We'll be about 15 point dogs
-
We'll be up to chuck up 3s at will against their zone. If we shoot like we did against Tulane, or last year against Cuse, we have a chance. If not, we could lose by 40 easily.
We'll be about 15 point dogs
I think we need to push the issue, even on made baskets. Start 4 guards and either Yakwe or Owens. And run. Take it to the basket, force it. Make them foul
-
We'll be up to chuck up 3s at will against their zone. If we shoot like we did against Tulane, or last year against Cuse, we have a chance. If not, we could lose by 40 easily.
We'll be about 15 point dogs
Agree. If this kid is out, and we guard 3 point line. Their is a chance. Also could lose by 50
-
We'll be up to chuck up 3s at will against their zone. If we shoot like we did against Tulane, or last year against Cuse, we have a chance. If not, we could lose by 40 easily.
We'll be about 15 point dogs
I think we need to push the issue, even on made baskets. Start 4 guards and either Yakwe or Owens. And run. Take it to the basket, force it. Make them foul
Ideal offensive lineup would be Lovett, Ponds, Mussini, Ahmed and Owens/Yakwe. Perfect opportunity for Ahmed to be the guy that catches it at the foul line against their zone, face up and attack. The other three guards are spread out behind the 3 point line for Ahmed to kick it to. Owens/Yakwe waiting for a pass along the baseline near the basket.
-
We'll be up to chuck up 3s at will against their zone. If we shoot like we did against Tulane, or last year against Cuse, we have a chance. If not, we could lose by 40 easily.
We'll be about 15 point dogs
I think we need to push the issue, even on made baskets. Start 4 guards and either Yakwe or Owens. And run. Take it to the basket, force it. Make them foul
Boeheim's going to force us to make 3's all day. We will have a very hard time cracking that zone. We need to take it to the hoop and draw fouls just not sure how plausible that is for this team. Coleman has been there for like 10 years and we have no big bodies to deal with him.
-
If we can stay within 5 on the boards and shoot 40% from 3 it can be a win. The second is doable, the first unlikely, Need to run and press and, to do so, need to rebound well. Cuse not very good so we do have a chance if we somehow learned to play D in the last few days. I am seeing an 11-12 win season based on some hot games from the guards. (I originally predicted 18 wins in my usual optimistic fashion.....I am unfailingly optimistic about SJU hoops and my golf game.
-
If we can stay within 5 on the boards and shoot 40% from 3 it can be a win. The second is doable, the first unlikely, Need to run and press and, to do so, need to rebound well. Cuse not very good so we do have a chance if we somehow learned to play D in the last few days. I am seeing an 11-12 win season based on some hot games from the guards. (I originally predicted 18 wins in my usual optimistic fashion.....I am unfailingly optimistic about SJU hoops and my golf game.
11-12 win season? Who do you see us beating from here on ?
-
Watching DePaul now (yes the game was yesterday) . They suck also.Don't think we sweep them though. Have seen a little of Syracuse, they aren't great and not that Athletic. This may sound crazy but this may be one of the winnable games we have left.
I love pressing and playing tough. However you can't do it with this roster. Lovett, ponds, and Ahmed need to play 30 plus. Huge drop off when they are on bench. (I know many of you hate Ahmed) still one of our better players.
If mullin wins 12 games- I will completely change my opinion of him. I think we beat DePaul at home and maybe providence. 7 wins
I think boheim gets some pay back. We lose 85-72 and make it a game for 30 minutes hopefully.
-
Syracuse is weak on defense and they don't have their typical well rounded offense.
Still, I don't it's healthy to expect anything other than a blow out. We had a miracle last year.
The Dome is intimidating, and this is a pretty intimidated St.John's team.
-
No Mussini tomorrow. Elijah Ingram's Carrier Dome record is safe. That probably means that Holyfield will get some minutes.
-
Mussini actually sick or something else going on?
-
If we can stay within 5 on the boards and shoot 40% from 3 it can be a win. The second is doable, the first unlikely, Need to run and press and, to do so, need to rebound well. Cuse not very good so we do have a chance if we somehow learned to play D in the last few days. I am seeing an 11-12 win season based on some hot games from the guards. (I originally predicted 18 wins in my usual optimistic fashion.....I am unfailingly optimistic about SJU hoops and my golf game.
11-12 win season? Who do you see us beating from here on ?
I'm confident you'll beat a few dead horses.
-
Mussini actually sick or something else going on?
In the hospital with an infection according to Zach
-
Mussini actually sick or something else going on?
In the hospital with an infection according to Zach
It's confirmed he's out.
-
If we can stay within 5 on the boards and shoot 40% from 3 it can be a win. The second is doable, the first unlikely, Need to run and press and, to do so, need to rebound well. Cuse not very good so we do have a chance if we somehow learned to play D in the last few days. I am seeing an 11-12 win season based on some hot games from the guards. (I originally predicted 18 wins in my usual optimistic fashion.....I am unfailingly optimistic about SJU hoops and my golf game.
11-12 win season? Who do you see us beating from here on ?
I'm confident you'll beat a few dead horses.
Cant predict who we will beat......it is a matter of playing good D and hitting from 3.....I believe the team will slowly improve defensively, they could not get any worse.....team was close early when playing some good teams, must learn to finish games, be consistent and win. Unfortunately, when you start losing games, particularly those you should win, the confidence level plummets. The youngstesr will learn and improve, when is the question. As I said earlier, I am always optimistic.
-
Time to make some money on this team and take Syracuse -14
-
Time to make some money on this team and take Syracuse -14
You finally gave up?
-
Time to make some money on this team and take Syracuse -14
You finally gave up?
Not gonna win at the Carrier Dome with eight players. Not these eight players.
-
:up:
-
Last time SJU won back to back at Syracuse was during Mullin's era...More magic tonight?
-
Lydon starting
-
Shot clock violation smfh
-
If nothing else they are solid at passing around the 3 pt line
-
Anyone have the online stream?
-
If nothing else they are solid at passing around the 3 pt line
Lol. Ellison to Lovett to Ponds. Rinse repeat
-
what channel is the game on ?
-
what channel is the game on ?
YES
-
Ellison baker from the top of key was impressive. Not sure I ever saw that before
-
#$%^ing comcast...killing me
-
We came to play tonight
Great bounce back so far from the last couple of disasters
-
On fire!
-
Hitting them from everywhere!
-
Cuse frustrated. Let's get some quick baskets now
-
Good drive on the hoop and harm for Ahmed
-
We get the ball to Ahmed at free throw line we have a chance
-
#$%^ing hate Syracuse
-
Cuse has one timeout left with about 27 minutes left in the game.
-
That is intentional
-
damn Owens got posterized
-
Thrilled we are winning. But this is ugly
-
I don't see Mussini on the bench? Anyone know whats up with him?
-
Gone cold. Good timeout
-
I don't see Mussini on the bench? Anyone know whats up with him?
Sick , I think in hospital
-
Gone cold. Good timeout
I like when he saves it , so we can run an ISO
-
I don't see Mussini on the bench? Anyone know whats up with him?
Think he is in hospital
-
I like Owens
-
This Syracuse team is terrible
-
I like Owens
Plays his balls off
-
This Syracuse team is terrible
They're bad but they'll make a run they gotta hold steady.
-
Didn't work. But I like Ellison in high post
-
First 4 minutes of the second half are gonna be really important
-
Happy we are winning. We need to get better shots. Already took 18's. This is not a great zone
-
Cuse has no offense outside of Lydon. This is a winnable game but I still see a run coming.
-
Colman is a horse
-
Bring in Williams .
-
Ahmed!
-
Ellison has done a tremendous job defending White tonight!
-
Ass hole took his last TO
-
Ahmed getting it done
-
They let Coleman get those pts but now he's tired. Not in shape at all.
-
Still hate uconn more. But this would be great
-
Couldnt take following on gamecast...ran to local bar to watch 2nd half
-
As someone who went to school just south of Syracuse, nothing makes me more happy than beating them.
-
Awful
-
Like I said we got no one who can hang with Coleman. Hopefully he tire out or fouls out soon.
-
Great start, but man, box out. We can win this
-
Stop gathering yourself. Just go up strong!
-
Ponds is the man. Keep feeding the hot hand!
-
Freud about to get into double figures as I expected.
Kid's got more potential in one hand than Amar ever had.
-
Like I said we got no one who can hang with Coleman. Hopefully he tire out or fouls out soon.
Williams can try. He has 5 fouls to give . German kid is playing decent
-
Rich looking great
-
Trivia question wrong. We had another coach
-
Ellison just hit two straight free throws I think I'm dreaming.
-
Like I said we got no one who can hang with Coleman. Hopefully he tire out or fouls out soon.
Williams can try. He has 5 fouls to give . German kid is playing decent
Yeah. Freud just needed more minutes and he's making the most of his time. Not sure why they're not using Williams but doesn't look like they need him tonight.
-
#$%^ing 2 on 1 and no points.
-
These refs suck
-
German can't guard him
-
Refs starting to call every ticky tack on us.
-
These refs suck
I agree. Throw the challenge flag!
-
Could use a timeout
-
Big trouble now. Syracuse in the bonus not even 7 minutes into the half. Freud can't guard Lydon. We don't have the bodies to absorb foul trouble
-
Williams in
-
This Gillon kid is out of control.
SJU needs to step in and cut him off.
-
Cuse can't shoot free throws
-
Cmon man we got this
-
Is this kid related to derrick Coleman?
-
Cuse guards are awful
-
Gotta hit these Ahmed
-
Man them earn in it from free thro line
-
Way to work Ahmed! Also, good job not going to the rack earlier in that play. Good patience.
-
Back breaker. Gametime!
-
Ahmed with the nasty stuff.
-
Williams 3 more to give. Ahmed looked like dom
-
I know we gotta be careful not to get into so much foul trouble that Ellison is our center, but SU doesn't hit free throws.
-
Ok im starting to feel it
-
Beat them by 30. ACC punks
-
19 pt lead stjohns
-
Even if we feel good 1ce a year...ill take it...
-
Nothing better than beating these punks.
Go Johnnies! 23 pt lead.
-
If I'm watching this team for the first time this year, I'm thinking this St. John's team is a fantastically coached young team. Crazy.
-
Lolololololol
-
Beat them by 30. ACC punks
+1
-
They're gonna stop scheduling us.
-
Syracuse imploding
-
Who is that next to Amar on bench?
-
They're gonna stop scheduling us.
Broke their will
-
Who is that next to Amar on bench?
Some priest.
-
Player of the game is Ahmed. Breakout game. This is what we expected from him
-
Who is that next to Amar on bench?
Some priest.
Black kid in red uniform lol?
-
Mullin has cuse's number
-
Who is that next to Amar on bench?
Some priest.
Black kid in red uniform lol?
They have added walkons
-
Who is that next to Amar on bench?
Some priest.
Black kid in red uniform lol?
lol picked him up off campus before the game
-
Lovin me some Ahmed tonight. Playing like a man
-
pleasantly surprised. happy my prediction was wrong.
-
AHMED with the RIM ROCKER!!!
-
Fckn Ahmed !
-
Ahmed with the phi slama jama
-
Dunk fest. Fck Cuse.
-
A Johnnies Dunkfest!
-
Holyshitman.......31st pt blowout
-
Everything going right. Get Ahmed out after this free throw
-
We need to get up a 100
-
Lovett being a distributor tonight. Love it!
-
Attack more!!!!!!
-
This is glorious
-
Great momentum builder going into BE play.
-
What a rout!!!!!!
-
This feels great as a fan and has to feel even better for the coaches and players!!!
-
Great momentum builder going into BE play.
No doubt. Some hope
-
This feels great as a fan and has to feel even better for the coaches and players!!!
A big relief I would say
-
Holyfield has been waiting to get in for weeks. Get this kid some burn
-
Largest sju win over cuse 35 in 1961.....wer have 35 pt lead
-
Coles?
-
This is the greatest day of my life. Well, almost, but wow!
-
Mullin set to resign after tonight.
Says beating Cuse 2 years in a row is enough to satisfy his coaching.
-
Amar Alibegovic is 3-0 in his career against Syracuse.
-
They can't make the excuse that Boeheim wasn't around for this one...
-
Great effort and energy tonight!! All around team win!
-
Who would have thought the kid wearing a postle jersey that none of us ever hear of would dribble the game out winning by 30
-
They can't make the excuse that Boeheim wasn't around for this one...
I won't
-
So.....are we still firing Mullin? Lmk.
-
This game was honestly everything. Feel like a million bucks.
-
Baldi back on band wagon? Wow, hopefully this propelled us in the right direction.
-
Baldi back on band wagon? Wow, hopefully this propelled us in the right direction.
Let's no get crazy.
-
I think manhandling the Cuse is much better win than Iona beating Santa Barbara
I am sure Baldi will have something negative he is always more happy when SJU loses.
Foad how was the greatness of Coach Jim on display today.
Just shows the season is not total loss hope.
-
I think manhandling the Cuse is much better win than Iona beating Santa Barbara
I am sure Baldi will have something negative he is always more happy when SJU loses.
Foad how was the greatness of Coach Jim on display today.
Just shows the season is not total loss hope.
[/quoteI think manhandling the Cuse is much better win than Iona beating Santa Barbara
I am sure Baldi will have something negative he is always more happy when SJU loses.
Foad how was the greatness of Coach Jim on display today.
Just shows the season is not total loss hope.
Are you 9 years old or 90?
-
I think manhandling the Cuse is much better win than Iona beating Santa Barbara
I am sure Baldi will have something negative he is always more happy when SJU loses.
Foad how was the greatness of Coach Jim on display today.
Just shows the season is not total loss hope.
Dude watched the entire game and was positive what do you want from him?
-
The game might not mean much in the long run, but beating Cuse 3 years in a row, and destroying them in the dome this year still feels great. We are rebuilding, they aren't. We absolutely ran them out and made it a dunk contest. That kinda wins, especially vs Cuse doesn't get old nor less fun....
-
Great win. Great for team morale, too. I know Cuse is down, but any win of that magnitude in the Carrier dome is a terrific win for the program and this young team. Cuse is still Cuse with a terrific coach, huge home court advantage and top 50 kids all over their roster. Certainly feels good after having watched in person the Penn State debacle.
-
Do we already have them on the schedule for next year?
I could see Cuse not continuing this series.
-
Only bad thing about this game that it was on Wednesday. Many of us should have been there
-
Amar Alibegovic is 3-0 in his career against Syracuse.
Need to find a way to get him a 5th year of eligibility. :) Never thought I would live to see the day we out alley ooped and out dunked the Cuse especially up in the carrier dome
-
Post game quotes
http://www.redstormsports.com/sports/m-baskbl/recaps/122116aaf.html
-
Just got back from the game. What a great win! 3 in a row versus Cuse
-
I was out dining in a restaurant, but the game was on a TV above my head. The decimation of the Cuse became funny, as I laughed out loud a handful of times. That was a thorough, ass-beating.
It would be even better, if tonight's win could catapult this group. I doubt it, but it would be fun if that were to occur.
-
If anyone caught Lovett's second postgame live instagram they were talking about:
-If Syracuse would continue the series since we are on a winning streak
-Why Syracuse has "New Yorks Team" when they're from upstate, and some Binghamton jokes.
It was lovely.
-
No Mussini tomorrow. Elijah Ingram's Carrier Dome record is safe. That probably means that Holyfield will get some minutes.
Poison was right. Holifield got minutes!! :)
-
"New York's College Team" my a$$. Memo to Syracuse: How's that ACC thing working out so far.
I do wish them well for the balance of the season, because of their BE roots and their enormous role in building that league, but tonight, and any time they play a BE team, it is glorious pay back for helping to "kill" our league. The only issue is, we refuse to go away and be killed.
-
No Mussini tomorrow. Elijah Ingram's Carrier Dome record is safe. That probably means that Holyfield will get some minutes.
Poison was right. Holifield got minutes!! :)
And he isn't bad either!
-
No question that they will continue the series. It's in the Garden next year and, frankly, they , like us, have a lot of real sportsmen running the ship. They wont quit nor will we. Tonight was lousy basketball but the games with them are almost always classics.
-
I was out dining in a restaurant, but the game was on a TV above my head. The decimation of the Cuse became funny, as I laughed out loud a handful of times. That was a thorough, ass-beating.
It would be even better, if tonight's win could catapult this group. I doubt it, but it would be fun if that were to occur.
Why do you doubt it? Isn't the point of the pre-season to get ready for the real one? Season is alive again. Enjoy it.
-
I was out dining in a restaurant, but the game was on a TV above my head. The decimation of the Cuse became funny, as I laughed out loud a handful of times. That was a thorough, ass-beating.
It would be even better, if tonight's win could catapult this group. I doubt it, but it would be fun if that were to occur.
Why do you doubt it? Isn't the point of the pre-season to get ready for the real one? Season is alive again. Enjoy it.
I'll believe it when I see it. Regardless, tonight's game was enjoyable.
-
"New York's College Team" my a$$. Memo to Syracuse: How's that ACC thing working out so far.
They went to the Final Four last April. Two Final Fours in the 4 seasons they've been in the ACC. So... yea I think they're doing OK in their new conference.
-
WHere are the pessimists today? The process seems to be working. Particularly like the distribution of minutes today with everyone contributing. When Mussini and Amar are back the starters will play a little less which will be a positive. GREAT WIN, I'm smelling some BE wins. Butler will be interesting.
-
Great game. But let's be honest Syracuse looked awful. They clearly overlooked us. They had no energy, zone was horrible, and overall lacked effort. Big win for us, no doubt. And I hope we can use this as a catalyst.
-
Great game. But let's be honest Syracuse looked awful. They clearly overlooked us. They had no energy, zone was horrible, and overall lacked effort. Big win for us, no doubt. And I hope we can use this as a catalyst.
"I can only coach one team" - Lou Carnesecca
-
Great game. But let's be honest Syracuse looked awful. They clearly overlooked us. They had no energy, zone was horrible, and overall lacked effort. Big win for us, no doubt. And I hope we can use this as a catalyst.
How can a team who lost to an extremely mediocre Georgetown team and a crappy UConn team overlook anybody? Frankly, the "overlook" term is trite, and player and fan speak. I do agree Syracuse isn't worth a damn, but I doubt they overlooked us.
The other day, I said something is off with this particular Syracuse team. Who cares?! It's their problem. We whipped their ass tonight, and it was enjoyable to watch.
-
WHere are the pessimists today? The process seems to be working. Particularly like the distribution of minutes today with everyone contributing. When Mussini and Amar are back the starters will play a little less which will be a positive. GREAT WIN, I'm smelling some BE wins. Butler will be interesting.
Hey we all hope we go on to bigger and better things. But why call people out? How's this for pessimism-last year after throttling the Cuse we went like 1-4,672. Let's just all hope things are different this year. Besides it Christmas time!
-
WHere are the pessimists today? The process seems to be working. Particularly like the distribution of minutes today with everyone contributing. When Mussini and Amar are back the starters will play a little less which will be a positive. GREAT WIN, I'm smelling some BE wins. Butler will be interesting.
Pessimists or realists?
Either way, most of the same people have been posting
-
Funny how much better the team looks when the ball goes through the net. Great win tonight. I just hope we tone down the staff can't coach talk. It's a young team and we still have holes to fill, but this is a system players will want to play in.
-
Having Mussini and Amar out hurt forced CM to tighten his rotation, going with only 3 guards and giving RF more time. I think some of our improved play tonight was a result of this tighter rotation. Ellison, in particular, seems to perform better when he's not looking over his shoulder expecting to be yanked after every turnover, and RF certainly played loose and shot with greater confidence. This was clearly Bashir's best and most under control performance of the year.
I'm not saying to dump Mussini from the rotation. There are games where he will play and someone else won't, but I would prefer to see RF get the minutes that Amar's been getting. I think settling on an 8 man rotation improves everyone's focus and improves the team. We're not deep enough to be playing 10 guys.
-
Great game. But let's be honest Syracuse looked awful. They clearly overlooked us. They had no energy, zone was horrible, and overall lacked effort. Big win for us, no doubt. And I hope we can use this as a catalyst.
So if St. John's loses it's because they stink. If they win it's because other team stinks. You need to watch a Christmas Carol.
-
Great game. But let's be honest Syracuse looked awful. They clearly overlooked us. They had no energy, zone was horrible, and overall lacked effort. Big win for us, no doubt. And I hope we can use this as a catalyst.
That's absolutely inaccurate. Every time they punched we punched back, and then when it was time we ran them out of their own gym.
Breakthrough game for Rich, expect him to improve even more over BE season. We all have seen this in his game since his 20 pt barrage in the scrimmage.
Malik's ascension from his injury last year to this point has been fun to watch. 22 against Penn St. and now his best all around game as a Johnnie tonight.
Over Malik's last 5 games : 13 ppg, 4.4 apg, 3.2 rpg while shooting 56% from the field.
Lastly, it feels great to be in the midst of a 3 year winning streak over Syracuse. Each win tastes better. Slowly but surely, we're coming along.
-
Having Mussini and Amar out hurt forced CM to tighten his rotation, going with only 3 guards and giving RF more time. I think some of our improved play tonight was a result of this tighter rotation. Ellison, in particular, seems to perform better when he's not looking over his shoulder expecting to be yanked after every turnover, and RF certainly played loose and shot with greater confidence. This was clearly Bashir's best and most under control performance of the year.
I'm not saying to dump Mussini from the rotation. There are games where he will play and someone else won't, but I would prefer to see RF get the minutes that Amar's been getting. I think settling on an 8 man rotation improves everyone's focus and improves the team. We're not deep enough to be playing 10 guys.
To a degree this is true. I do think Mussini has value. He's the best shooter on the team. Need to limit his minutes and increase his usage when in the game.
Ellison is really good. I know he's played poor at times but people tend to magnify every miss or turnover he has.
-
I was out dining in a restaurant, but the game was on a TV above my head.
If you were in a restaurant and there was a TV above your head you weren't dining, you were eating.
-
In 6 games in December, Ellison is averaging ~12-4-3 while shooting 54% from the field and 61% from 3 (11-18)
-
Hopefully Ellison keeps on playing like this.
When he hits the three and can drive to the hoop and finish like he can he is the perfect player for this team.
Great win and hopefully this will get people off Chris and Mitch back for awhile.
-
Hopefully Ellison keeps on playing like this.
When he hits the three and can drive to the hoop and finish like he can he is the perfect player for this team.
Great win and hopefully this will get people off Chris and Mitch back for awhile.
Ellison also rebounded. We need him on the glass.
-
Having Mussini and Amar out hurt forced CM to tighten his rotation, going with only 3 guards and giving RF more time. I think some of our improved play tonight was a result of this tighter rotation. Ellison, in particular, seems to perform better when he's not looking over his shoulder expecting to be yanked after every turnover, and RF certainly played loose and shot with greater confidence. This was clearly Bashir's best and most under control performance of the year.
I'm not saying to dump Mussini from the rotation. There are games where he will play and someone else won't, but I would prefer to see RF get the minutes that Amar's been getting. I think settling on an 8 man rotation improves everyone's focus and improves the team. We're not deep enough to be playing 10 guys.
To a degree this is true. I do think Mussini has value. He's the best shooter on the team. Need to limit his minutes and increase his usage when in the game.
Ellison is really good. I know he's played poor at times but people tend to magnify every miss or turnover he has.
He's had the physical talent all along, happy to see it coming together, he's improving in leaps and bounds. Hope he keeps working on FT's, with his ability to get to the rack it will be very important down the line.
-
Having Mussini and Amar out hurt forced CM to tighten his rotation, going with only 3 guards and giving RF more time. I think some of our improved play tonight was a result of this tighter rotation. Ellison, in particular, seems to perform better when he's not looking over his shoulder expecting to be yanked after every turnover, and RF certainly played loose and shot with greater confidence. This was clearly Bashir's best and most under control performance of the year.
I'm not saying to dump Mussini from the rotation. There are games where he will play and someone else won't, but I would prefer to see RF get the minutes that Amar's been getting. I think settling on an 8 man rotation improves everyone's focus and improves the team. We're not deep enough to be playing 10 guys.
To a degree this is true. I do think Mussini has value. He's the best shooter on the team. Need to limit his minutes and increase his usage when in the game.
Ellison is really good. I know he's played poor at times but people tend to magnify every miss or turnover he has.
I agree w you on Ellison. We haven't seen the best version of him yet. But w Mussini, when he's out there, he gives the opposing team a wide open look. He wasn't the only doing that against Penn State and LIU, but he is simply limited physically. His minutes need to drop significantly. I would like to see him used the way Lavin used Max Hooper. If he's going to do one thing, and one thing only, we shouldn't throw him out there and hope that no one notices that he can't guard anyone.
-
WHere are the pessimists today? The process seems to be working. Particularly like the distribution of minutes today with everyone contributing. When Mussini and Amar are back the starters will play a little less which will be a positive. GREAT WIN, I'm smelling some BE wins. Butler will be interesting.
Just when you put this team in your back mirror they pull off something like this. I scheduled a dinner party last night because I thought there was no use watching a debacle against Syracuse. I'm thinking they can win half their remaining games. I hate being an SJU junkie...hate it.
-
I absolutely think it was beneficial not having either of those guys last night. I think Williams is ok. Decent shooter, but doesn't chuck like Amar. Teams will leave him wide open and he will score 4/6 a game.
Mussini helped us beat some of those bad teams. Without him we may not have 6 wins. His season is over in my opinion. Big east teams won't let him get a shot off.
-
Having Mussini and Amar out hurt forced CM to tighten his rotation, going with only 3 guards and giving RF more time. I think some of our improved play tonight was a result of this tighter rotation. Ellison, in particular, seems to perform better when he's not looking over his shoulder expecting to be yanked after every turnover, and RF certainly played loose and shot with greater confidence. This was clearly Bashir's best and most under control performance of the year.
I'm not saying to dump Mussini from the rotation. There are games where he will play and someone else won't, but I would prefer to see RF get the minutes that Amar's been getting. I think settling on an 8 man rotation improves everyone's focus and improves the team. We're not deep enough to be playing 10 guys.
To a degree this is true. I do think Mussini has value. He's the best shooter on the team. Need to limit his minutes and increase his usage when in the game.
Ellison is really good. I know he's played poor at times but people tend to magnify every miss or turnover he has.
Mussini has to be wide open with his feet set. I do not think he is the best shooter on the team at all
-
Syracuse recap: http://www.bigeastboards.com/
-
The reality is we're not as bad as we showed against Penn State nor as good as we showed against Syracuse. The question is which of those games is closer to who we really are. It would be nice to double down against Butler and start a little BE streak.
-
Having Mussini and Amar out hurt forced CM to tighten his rotation, going with only 3 guards and giving RF more time. I think some of our improved play tonight was a result of this tighter rotation. Ellison, in particular, seems to perform better when he's not looking over his shoulder expecting to be yanked after every turnover, and RF certainly played loose and shot with greater confidence. This was clearly Bashir's best and most under control performance of the year.
I'm not saying to dump Mussini from the rotation. There are games where he will play and someone else won't, but I would prefer to see RF get the minutes that Amar's been getting. I think settling on an 8 man rotation improves everyone's focus and improves the team. We're not deep enough to be playing 10 guys.
To a degree this is true. I do think Mussini has value. He's the best shooter on the team. Need to limit his minutes and increase his usage when in the game.
Ellison is really good. I know he's played poor at times but people tend to magnify every miss or turnover he has.
Mussini has to be wide open with his feet set. I do not think he is the best shooter on the team at all
That isn't true. He has a nice crossover, step back, he can hit consistently. Sometimes off 1 foot.
I think we have better shot makers than Mussini (Ponds) but he is the best shooter. Quickest release and purest stroke.
-
Ellison has looked much better lately I must admit. As long as he stays under control and doesn't try to force things by making silly passes or turnovers then he should be a valuable piece to this team.
Rich is getting more comfortable every game as expected. His next step is to be more consistent from deep and convert at a higher rate driving to the hoop. The confidence is building and you see more glimpses of his talent every time out.
-
Given Ellison's play Mussini's minutes will lessen but he is still an integral part. With Ponds and Lovett penetrating he will get looks when he is in. Ellison finally cut down his TOs, which is key. Feud looking good, Amar minutes will be minimal going forward. Love the way Freud moves the ball.
-
Syracuse people released game highlights:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2Ol1glrW5Y
-
Mussini is not Hooper. Mussini can do far more than Hooper could. Yes, Mussini is a weak defender, but he can handle the ball, get his shot off the dribble (though not regularly against quicker/bigger comp, at this point), and operate within the flow of an offense.
Lavin didn't know how to use Hooper and I don't think most major conference teams could find a role for Hooper. He fared better against mid major comp and playing with a PG who was a really good college player and could control the game at that level so that Hooper was able to get/make open looks, which outweighed the fact that he was a liability on defense and didn't bring anything else to the table.
There is a role for Mussini. He is a streak shooter, like most, and when he's making shots off the bat he could be in the game and the team should find ways to get him looks. When he comes out misfiring, he should head back to the bench until the team needs a burst or the opponent plays zone.
-
Mussini is not Hooper. Mussini can do far more than Hooper could. Yes, Mussini is a weak defender, but he can handle the ball, get his shot off the dribble (though not regularly against quicker/bigger comp, at this point), and operate within the flow of an offense.
Lavin didn't know how to use Hooper and I don't think most major conference teams could find a role for Hooper. He fared better against mid major comp and playing with a PG who was a really good college player and could control the game at that level so that Hooper was able to get/make open looks, which outweighed the fact that he was a liability on defense and didn't bring anything else to the table.
There is a role for Mussini. He is a streak shooter, like most, and when he's making shots off the bat he could be in the game and the team should find ways to get him looks. When he comes out misfiring, he should head back to the bench until the team needs a burst or the opponent plays zone.
Ponds, Lovett, Ahmed and now even Ellison are all shooting 40 percent plus from three and all of them bring something else to the table. What do we need a fifth shooter for, one who brings nothing else to the table?
-
Mussini is not Hooper. Mussini can do far more than Hooper could. Yes, Mussini is a weak defender, but he can handle the ball, get his shot off the dribble (though not regularly against quicker/bigger comp, at this point), and operate within the flow of an offense.
Lavin didn't know how to use Hooper and I don't think most major conference teams could find a role for Hooper. He fared better against mid major comp and playing with a PG who was a really good college player and could control the game at that level so that Hooper was able to get/make open looks, which outweighed the fact that he was a liability on defense and didn't bring anything else to the table.
There is a role for Mussini. He is a streak shooter, like most, and when he's making shots off the bat he could be in the game and the team should find ways to get him looks. When he comes out misfiring, he should head back to the bench until the team needs a burst or the opponent plays zone.
Ponds, Lovett, Ahmed and now even Ellison are all shooting 40 percent plus from three and all of them bring something else to the table. What do we need a fifth shooter for, one who brings nothing else to the table?
Agree
-
In games where those 4 are all shooting decently well, I agree that Rico's minutes should be very limited. In games where Malik, Ponds, etc are struggling shooting the ball, and we need someone to knock down a three, I have no problem giving Mussini some burn for a few minutes at time.
Mussini is not Hooper. Mussini can do far more than Hooper could. Yes, Mussini is a weak defender, but he can handle the ball, get his shot off the dribble (though not regularly against quicker/bigger comp, at this point), and operate within the flow of an offense.
Lavin didn't know how to use Hooper and I don't think most major conference teams could find a role for Hooper. He fared better against mid major comp and playing with a PG who was a really good college player and could control the game at that level so that Hooper was able to get/make open looks, which outweighed the fact that he was a liability on defense and didn't bring anything else to the table.
There is a role for Mussini. He is a streak shooter, like most, and when he's making shots off the bat he could be in the game and the team should find ways to get him looks. When he comes out misfiring, he should head back to the bench until the team needs a burst or the opponent plays zone.
Ponds, Lovett, Ahmed and now even Ellison are all shooting 40 percent plus from three and all of them bring something else to the table. What do we need a fifth shooter for, one who brings nothing else to the table?
-
As I noted on the other board, I think everyone should aggregate their Great White Hope support to RF. Of the three candidates he has the best chance to have a future role
-
In games where those 4 are all shooting decently well, I agree that Rico's minutes should be very limited. In games where Malik, Ponds, etc are struggling shooting the ball, and we need someone to knock down a three, I have no problem giving Mussini some burn for a few minutes at time.
Fair enough. He's well-suited to being the eighth or ninth man.
-
As I noted on the other board, I think everyone should aggregate their Great White Hope support to RF. Of the three candidates he has the best chance to have a future role
I will continue to root for all of our white players. Seriously though really wish you would get off this race BS.
-
Root for all the players the same regardless of the race.
I say something about Baldi - Celtics - comes down hard on me.
But somebody says something about race -its funny and nobody says anything
-
As I noted on the other board, I think everyone should aggregate their Great White Hope support to RF. Of the three candidates he has the best chance to have a future role
Is this 1963? Your posts are disgraceful and you bring nothing to any conversation, you should be ashamed of yourself for writing that and posting it.
-
Root for all the players the same regardless of the race.
I say something about Baldi - Celtics - comes down hard on me.
But somebody says something about race -its funny and nobody says anything
Lesson learned Scheppy. Don't mess with Baldi
-
As I noted on the other board, I think everyone should aggregate their Great White Hope support to RF. Of the three candidates he has the best chance to have a future role
Is this 1963? Your posts are disgraceful and you bring nothing to any conversation, you should be ashamed of yourself for writing that and posting it.
You guys need to stop being so soft and sensitive. Wasju is a good man
-
As I noted on the other board, I think everyone should aggregate their Great White Hope support to RF. Of the three candidates he has the best chance to have a future role
Is this 1963? Your posts are disgraceful and you bring nothing to any conversation, you should be ashamed of yourself for writing that and posting it.
Don't read it, I don't normally read your posts or I would be able to accurately discuss what you bring to any conversation. I do think it is funny when simpleton's decree a post useless than take time out of their busy day to comment on said useless post. What then does that say about your post criticizing the usefulness of another post?
For their talent level, people spend way to much time discussing our 7 th, 8th and 9th men. Max Hooper had a 100 threads and so did the Marco kid whose name I can't be bothered to remember. And yes it is because some people would like to be able to root for a white kid. Judging by your reaction you might be one of those people.
-
As I noted on the other board, I think everyone should aggregate their Great White Hope support to RF. Of the three candidates he has the best chance to have a future role
Is this 1963? Your posts are disgraceful and you bring nothing to any conversation, you should be ashamed of yourself for writing that and posting it.
You guys need to stop being so soft and sensitive. Wasju is a good man
They would have struggled mightily on old BEB
-
Ellison has looked much better lately I must admit. As long as he stays under control and doesn't try to force things by making silly passes or turnovers then he should be a valuable piece to this team.
Rich is getting more comfortable every game as expected. His next step is to be more consistent from deep and convert at a higher rate driving to the hoop. The confidence is building and you see more glimpses of his talent every time out.
He still makes those long cross court passes which are easily picked
-
As I noted on the other board, I think everyone should aggregate their Great White Hope support to RF. Of the three candidates he has the best chance to have a future role
I will continue to root for all of our white players. Seriously though really wish you would get off this race BS.
Half if it is to bust balls, but honestly do you think the combined talent of RF, Mussini and Amar equates to the number of times they are mentioned on these boards? Owens is way better than Amar, but who do you think has more threads about him? Why do you think that is exactly. In fact I bet there are more Mussini threads and mentions than Ponds. It is really hard to take anyone serious about basketball related stuff when they are constantly pimping guys at the end of the bench. If someone is going to post RF should play more and Ahmed should be benched-yes that has been posted, then how can you rationally challenge that?
It is either a Black vs White thing or someone is just really stupid thing?
-
Root for all the players the same regardless of the race.
I say something about Baldi - Celtics - comes down hard on me.
But somebody says something about race -its funny and nobody says anything
Maybe if you stopped playing the victim and making everything about yourself you would have less to complain about. My post had zero to do with you. And hey, Baldi just called me out so F Baldi. Happy now?
-
We Are Sju ... +100 for your last half dozen posts.
Spot on. It's an unfortunate aspect of our fan base that dates back to Matty Bruss slamming the floor wojo-style.
And probably earlier than that - although that's my earliest recollection of unusual support for a white guy.
-
As I noted on the other board, I think everyone should aggregate their Great White Hope support to RF. Of the three candidates he has the best chance to have a future role
Is this 1963? Your posts are disgraceful and you bring nothing to any conversation, you should be ashamed of yourself for writing that and posting it.
You guys need to stop being so soft and sensitive. Wasju is a good man
They would have struggled mightily on old BEB
When men were men.
-
I'm concerned our shooting percentages are due to fall precipitiously.
Ellison for example was barely a 50% foul shooter last season.(I think 53%) Now, he shoots better than 40% from three?
Seems to me there is a regression to the mean coming up.
-
We Are Sju ... +100 for your last half dozen posts.
Spot on. It's an unfortunate aspect of our fan base that dates back to Matty Bruss slamming the floor wojo-style.
And probably earlier than that - although that's my earliest recollection of unusual support for a white guy.
Thanks for the support.
Just to be clear though people are free to root for whoever they want for whatever the reason. The only reason I bring up is it is hard to have a basketball discussion with people who are arguing because of reasons they won't admit.
-
As I noted on the other board, I think everyone should aggregate their Great White Hope support to RF. Of the three candidates he has the best chance to have a future role
Is this 1963? Your posts are disgraceful and you bring nothing to any conversation, you should be ashamed of yourself for writing that and posting it.
You guys need to stop being so soft and sensitive. Wasju is a good man
They would have struggled mightily on old BEB
That place was literally the Wild West of the internet. Those were fun times with people throwing verbal bombs at each other every day
-
We Are Sju ... +100 for your last half dozen posts.
Spot on. It's an unfortunate aspect of our fan base that dates back to Matty Bruss slamming the floor wojo-style.
And probably earlier than that - although that's my earliest recollection of unusual support for a white guy.
Thanks for the support.
Just to be clear though people are free to root for whoever they want for whatever the reason. The only reason I bring up is it is hard to have a basketball discussion with people who are arguing because of reasons they won't admit.
You're blind to your own ignorance. You just urged everyone who reads this forum to have preferential treatment towards the white players on the team bc of their race, and which white player currently has the best chance of succeeding. Disgusting.
-
If we don't tighten up the defense, in those games, you will see more of the Penn St. result unless our guys become more effective at scoring near the basket/foul line in, whether in the half court or transition. Maybe Ahmed develops into a more effective scorer from the foul line in, where I think he can be effective. Maybe Freudenberg can show a bit of that later in the year? Maybe Ponds, Lovett and Ellison take the ball more into the lane when the shots aren't falling? Or maybe we defend/rebound a bit and get out on the break. Right now, this team lives and dies by the 3. I think we can win some games that way because we have much better shooters on this team than the past (even if Ellison regresses to the mean, I think Ponds, Lovett, Ahmed and Mussini can knock down shots from that range at a decent clip, and perhaps Freudenberg starts to as well).
I'm concerned our shooting percentages are due to fall precipitiously.
Ellison for example was barely a 50% foul shooter last season.(I think 53%) Now, he shoots better than 40% from three?
Seems to me there is a regression to the mean coming up.
-
We Are Sju ... +100 for your last half dozen posts.
Spot on. It's an unfortunate aspect of our fan base that dates back to Matty Bruss slamming the floor wojo-style.
And probably earlier than that - although that's my earliest recollection of unusual support for a white guy.
Thanks for the support.
Just to be clear though people are free to root for whoever they want for whatever the reason. The only reason I bring up is it is hard to have a basketball discussion with people who are arguing because of reasons they won't admit.
You're blind to your own ignorance. You just urged everyone who reads this forum to have preferential treatment towards the white players on the team bc of their race, and which white player currently has the best chance of succeeding. Disgusting.
Dude. Find you safe space and chill
-
We Are Sju ... +100 for your last half dozen posts.
Spot on. It's an unfortunate aspect of our fan base that dates back to Matty Bruss slamming the floor wojo-style.
And probably earlier than that - although that's my earliest recollection of unusual support for a white guy.
Thanks for the support.
Just to be clear though people are free to root for whoever they want for whatever the reason. The only reason I bring up is it is hard to have a basketball discussion with people who are arguing because of reasons they won't admit.
You're blind to your own ignorance. You just urged everyone who reads this forum to have preferential treatment towards the white players on the team bc of their race, and which white player currently has the best chance of succeeding. Disgusting.
Yes that is what I did. Are you 7 years old?
That was what we call a joke Shirley.
For your benefit allow me to recap. Yes I think some on here are overly invested in the three white guys. They get brought up way more than their talent dictates. And honestly to each his own. You like white guys, black guys, chicks with dicks, whatever. My point is it is hard to have a rational basketball discussion with people who aren't being honest with themselves. No RF is not better than Ahmad and Mussini is probably our 4th best guard. So I joke about the race thing and people who know deep down they are that guy get mad.
Now in your case I just think everything went over your head and you are just not that bright.
-
Mussini is not Hooper. Mussini can do far more than Hooper could. Yes, Mussini is a weak defender, but he can handle the ball, get his shot off the dribble (though not regularly against quicker/bigger comp, at this point), and operate within the flow of an offense.
Lavin didn't know how to use Hooper and I don't think most major conference teams could find a role for Hooper. He fared better against mid major comp and playing with a PG who was a really good college player and could control the game at that level so that Hooper was able to get/make open looks, which outweighed the fact that he was a liability on defense and didn't bring anything else to the table.
There is a role for Mussini. He is a streak shooter, like most, and when he's making shots off the bat he could be in the game and the team should find ways to get him looks. When he comes out misfiring, he should head back to the bench until the team needs a burst or the opponent plays zone.
Ponds, Lovett, Ahmed and now even Ellison are all shooting 40 percent plus from three and all of them bring something else to the table. What do we need a fifth shooter for, one who brings nothing else to the table?
He brings good ball movement to the table and is a better pure shooter than anyone on the team. When he is in he attracts attention because of his shooting ability which leaves More area for the other 3 guard to penetrate. He is now the 4th guard thanks to Ellison's suddenly playing more intelligently but he will still get minutes via 3 guard offense and Elllsion playing the 3. Id like to see him playing around 15 a game, more if he comes out hot.
-
As I noted on the other board, I think everyone should aggregate their Great White Hope support to RF. Of the three candidates he has the best chance to have a future role
Is this 1963? Your posts are disgraceful and you bring nothing to any conversation, you should be ashamed of yourself for writing that and posting it.
You guys need to stop being so soft and sensitive. Wasju is a good man
They would have struggled mightily on old BEB
That place was literally the Wild West of the internet. Those were fun times with people throwing verbal bombs at each other every day
We were "lucky" to have Norm to kick around relentlessly...
-
Ellison has looked much better lately I must admit. As long as he stays under control and doesn't try to force things by making silly passes or turnovers then he should be a valuable piece to this team.
Rich is getting more comfortable every game as expected. His next step is to be more consistent from deep and convert at a higher rate driving to the hoop. The confidence is building and you see more glimpses of his talent every time out.
He still makes those long cross court passes which are easily picked
That is why I said as long as he doesn't make those silly passes which he has been prone to do. Get rid of those and be more controlled on his drives and he can be something for us.
-
We Are Sju ... +100 for your last half dozen posts.
Spot on. It's an unfortunate aspect of our fan base that dates back to Matty Bruss slamming the floor wojo-style.
And probably earlier than that - although that's my earliest recollection of unusual support for a white guy.
Thanks for the support.
Just to be clear though people are free to root for whoever they want for whatever the reason. The only reason I bring up is it is hard to have a basketball discussion with people who are arguing because of reasons they won't admit.
You're blind to your own ignorance. You just urged everyone who reads this forum to have preferential treatment towards the white players on the team bc of their race, and which white player currently has the best chance of succeeding. Disgusting.
Yes that is what I did. Are you 7 years old?
That was what we call a joke Shirley.
For your benefit allow me to recap. Yes I think some on here are overly invested in the three white guys. They get brought up way more than their talent dictates. And honestly to each his own. You like white guys, black guys, chicks with dicks, whatever. My point is it is hard to have a rational basketball discussion with people who aren't being honest with themselves. No RF is not better than Ahmad and Mussini is probably our 4th best guard. So I joke about the race thing and people who know deep down they are that guy get mad.
Now in your case I just think everything went over your head and you are just not that bright.
If you're just joking and trolling people within these boards then I'm cool w that. Still a ridiculous post. I didn't know where you were coming from, you're just being a troll, moving on.
-
We Are Sju ... +100 for your last half dozen posts.
Spot on. It's an unfortunate aspect of our fan base that dates back to Matty Bruss slamming the floor wojo-style.
And probably earlier than that - although that's my earliest recollection of unusual support for a white guy.
Thanks for the support.
Just to be clear though people are free to root for whoever they want for whatever the reason. The only reason I bring up is it is hard to have a basketball discussion with people who are arguing because of reasons they won't admit.
You're blind to your own ignorance. You just urged everyone who reads this forum to have preferential treatment towards the white players on the team bc of their race, and which white player currently has the best chance of succeeding. Disgusting.
Yes that is what I did. Are you 7 years old?
That was what we call a joke Shirley.
For your benefit allow me to recap. Yes I think some on here are overly invested in the three white guys. They get brought up way more than their talent dictates. And honestly to each his own. You like white guys, black guys, chicks with dicks, whatever. My point is it is hard to have a rational basketball discussion with people who aren't being honest with themselves. No RF is not better than Ahmad and Mussini is probably our 4th best guard. So I joke about the race thing and people who know deep down they are that guy get mad.
Now in your case I just think everything went over your head and you are just not that bright.
If you're just joking and trolling people within these boards then I'm cool w that. Still a ridiculous post. I didn't know where you were coming from, you're just being a troll, moving on.
Guy, if you are going to take the time to respond to a post read it carefully. Would also help if you have read said poster's previous posts. I was making a joke AT THE EXPENSE OF the people on these boards that are pushing RF, Mussini and Amar based on the fact that they are white. I was not advocating rooting for someone based on skin color. The opposite in fact.
So basically people got mad at me for calling them racist and you took my joke seriously and accused me of being what I was making fun of others for. WE ARE SJU
-
We Are Sju ... +100 for your last half dozen posts.
Spot on. It's an unfortunate aspect of our fan base that dates back to Matty Bruss slamming the floor wojo-style.
And probably earlier than that - although that's my earliest recollection of unusual support for a white guy.
Thanks for the support.
Just to be clear though people are free to root for whoever they want for whatever the reason. The only reason I bring up is it is hard to have a basketball discussion with people who are arguing because of reasons they won't admit.
You're blind to your own ignorance. You just urged everyone who reads this forum to have preferential treatment towards the white players on the team bc of their race, and which white player currently has the best chance of succeeding. Disgusting.
Yes that is what I did. Are you 7 years old?
That was what we call a joke Shirley.
For your benefit allow me to recap. Yes I think some on here are overly invested in the three white guys. They get brought up way more than their talent dictates. And honestly to each his own. You like white guys, black guys, chicks with dicks, whatever. My point is it is hard to have a rational basketball discussion with people who aren't being honest with themselves. No RF is not better than Ahmad and Mussini is probably our 4th best guard. So I joke about the race thing and people who know deep down they are that guy get mad.
Now in your case I just think everything went over your head and you are just not that bright.
If you're just joking and trolling people within these boards then I'm cool w that. Still a ridiculous post. I didn't know where you were coming from, you're just being a troll, moving on.
Guy, if you are going to take the time to respond to a post read it carefully. Would also help if you have read said poster's previous posts. I was making a joke AT THE EXPENSE OF the people on these boards that are pushing RF, Mussini and Amar based on the fact that they are white. I was not advocating rooting for someone based on skin color. The opposite in fact.
So basically people got mad at me for calling them racist and you took my joke seriously and accused me of being what I was making fun of others for. WE ARE SJU
Yea I know, you didn't quote anyone else's posts, you just posted that without prefacing anything, so it came off as racist and offensive. You were just trolling I know.
-
Agree with post to just chill (didn't want to credit that post to Baldi for fear of Scheppy) don't take your posts on the subject that seriously but the repetitiveness of them is annoying at least to me. But must take exception to your assertion that the 3 white players are receiving undue support. You yourself are jokingly calling for consolidation to RF who in actuality does not receive undue support and I don't know any big fans of AliB. With Mussini you have a case. I like the kid as he came here from another country to play for my alma mater and from all indications is a great kid well liked by his teammates. Your best case for undue favoritism towards a player may well have been that showed towards Fred Lyson. Anyway, would rather be talking strictly about basketball than about race on these boards. Yours and Foad's opinions on undue favoritism toward players of a certain race have been duly noted unduly. :)
-
Moving on ...
Do we know Mussini's status moving forward?
He has an infection or a virus?
Hopefully he is out if the hospital promptly. Not sure if he goes home, but nobody likes being in a hospital for Christmas.
-
So I guess now wouldn't be a good time for my "All time Caucasian St Johns team"?
-
Agree with post to just chill (didn't want to credit that post to Baldi for fear of Scheppy) don't take your posts on the subject that seriously but the repetitiveness of them is annoying at least to me. But must take exception to your assertion that the 3 white players are receiving undue support. You yourself are jokingly calling for consolidation to RF who in actuality does not receive undue support and I don't know any big fans of AliB. With Mussini you have a case. I like the kid as he came here from another country to play for my alma mater and from all indications is a great kid well liked by his teammates. Your best case for undue favoritism towards a player may well have been that showed towards Fred Lyson. Anyway, would rather be talking strictly about basketball than about race on these boards. Yours and Foad's opinions on undue favoritism toward players of a certain race have been duly noted unduly. :)
I aim to amuse and annoy. Whichever is cool with me.
-
So I guess now wouldn't be a good time for my "All time Caucasian St Johns team"?
Lol NY has gotten so soft, such a shame.
-
nobody likes being in a hospital for Christmas.
No one likes being cooped up less at Christmas than Santa Claustrophobia.
-
So I guess now wouldn't be a good time for my "All time Caucasian St Johns team"?
Lol NY has gotten so soft, such a shame.
Amazing isn't it. If someone called me a drunk Irish motherfcker, I would laugh and agree with them. But then again, I'm not soft
-
So I guess now wouldn't be a good time for my "All time Caucasian St Johns team"?
All Cracker ass cracker team
Paultz
Mullin
Schaeffer
Loughery
Mcguire
No real power forward that I can think of off top of head
-
So I guess now wouldn't be a good time for my "All time Caucasian St Johns team"?
Sure it is. Dick McGuire or Alan Seiden at the point, Mullin at 2, Billy Shaefer, the Whopper and Wennington up front. A solid team. All black team, Leroy Ellis, Sonny Dove and Berry up front Mark Jackson and Tony Jackson in the backcourt. I make the Black team 10 Pt Favorites.
-
We Are Sju ... +100 for your last half dozen posts.
Spot on. It's an unfortunate aspect of our fan base that dates back to Matty Bruss slamming the floor wojo-style.
And probably earlier than that - although that's my earliest recollection of unusual support for a white guy.
It has zero to do with race. Brust was so popular because he played with unbridled passion. It had nothing to do with the color of his skin.
-
So I guess now wouldn't be a good time for my "All time Caucasian St Johns team"?
tru dat
Lol NY has gotten so soft, such a shame.
Amazing isn't it. If someone called me a drunk Irish motherfcker, I would laugh and agree with them. But then again, I'm not soft
-
So I guess now wouldn't be a good time for my "All time Caucasian St Johns team"?
Lol NY has gotten so soft, such a shame.
Amazing isn't it. If someone called me a drunk Irish motherfcker, I would laugh and agree with them. But then again, I'm not soft
tru dat
-
Agree with post to just chill (didn't want to credit that post to Baldi for fear of Scheppy) don't take your posts on the subject that seriously but the repetitiveness of them is annoying at least to me. But must take exception to your assertion that the 3 white players are receiving undue support. You yourself are jokingly calling for consolidation to RF who in actuality does not receive undue support and I don't know any big fans of AliB. With Mussini you have a case. I like the kid as he came here from another country to play for my alma mater and from all indications is a great kid well liked by his teammates. Your best case for undue favoritism towards a player may well have been that showed towards Fred Lyson. Anyway, would rather be talking strictly about basketball than about race on these boards. Yours and Foad's opinions on undue favoritism toward players of a certain race have been duly noted unduly. :)
RF doesn't get enough support. He is right where I and many others expected him to be, but he's labeled as somewhat of a bust. It seems, if anything, WASJU and our fans are harder
on white players. I can't think of a single white player WASJU hasn't mocked from a very early stage.
-
We Are Sju ... +100 for your last half dozen posts.
Spot on. It's an unfortunate aspect of our fan base that dates back to Matty Bruss slamming the floor wojo-style.
And probably earlier than that - although that's my earliest recollection of unusual support for a white guy.
Thanks for the support.
Just to be clear though people are free to root for whoever they want for whatever the reason. The only reason I bring up is it is hard to have a basketball discussion with people who are arguing because of reasons they won't admit.
You're blind to your own ignorance. You just urged everyone who reads this forum to have preferential treatment towards the white players on the team bc of their race, and which white player currently has the best chance of succeeding. Disgusting.
Yes that is what I did. Are you 7 years old?
That was what we call a joke Shirley.
For your benefit allow me to recap. Yes I think some on here are overly invested in the three white guys. They get brought up way more than their talent dictates. And honestly to each his own. You like white guys, black guys, chicks with dicks, whatever. My point is it is hard to have a rational basketball discussion with people who aren't being honest with themselves. No RF is not better than Ahmad and Mussini is probably our 4th best guard. So I joke about the race thing and people who know deep down they are that guy get mad.
Now in your case I just think everything went over your head and you are just not that bright.
If you're just joking and trolling people within these boards then I'm cool w that. Still a ridiculous post. I didn't know where you were coming from, you're just being a troll, moving on.
Guy, if you are going to take the time to respond to a post read it carefully. Would also help if you have read said poster's previous posts. I was making a joke AT THE EXPENSE OF the people on these boards that are pushing RF, Mussini and Amar based on the fact that they are white. I was not advocating rooting for someone based on skin color. The opposite in fact.
So basically people got mad at me for calling them racist and you took my joke seriously and accused me of being what I was making fun of others for. WE ARE SJU
Yea I know, you didn't quote anyone else's posts, you just posted that without prefacing anything, so it came off as racist and offensive. You were just trolling I know.
I've met SJu and he loves hot black girls on porn just as much as white girls
Seriously though unless someone has met someone it's pretty unfair to brand them a racist especially when most of what they write has some sort of sarcasm,humor or irony in it
-
So I guess now wouldn't be a good time for my "All time Caucasian St Johns team"?
tru dat
Lol NY has gotten so soft, such a shame.
Amazing isn't it. If someone called me a drunk Irish motherfcker, I would laugh and agree with them. But then again, I'm not soft
Pajama boys. Some of these "men" make Rachel Maddow look like The Rock.
-
So I guess now wouldn't be a good time for my "All time Caucasian St Johns team"?
tru dat
Lol NY has gotten so soft, such a shame.
Amazing isn't it. If someone called me a drunk Irish motherfcker, I would laugh and agree with them. But then again, I'm not soft
Pajama boys. Some of these "men" make Rachel Maddow look like The Rock.
HAAAAA. They would never had survived that night we all met at that bar that PMG set up for that drinkathon years ago. If we ever turn into lord of the flies I know which ones are gonna survive
-
So I guess now wouldn't be a good time for my "All time Caucasian St Johns team"?
tru dat
Lol NY has gotten so soft, such a shame.
Amazing isn't it. If someone called me a drunk Irish motherfcker, I would laugh and agree with them. But then again, I'm not soft
Pajama boys. Some of these "men" make Rachel Maddow look like The Rock.
HAAAAA. They would never had survived that night we all met at that bar that PMG set up for that drinkathon years ago. If we ever turn into lord of the flies I know which ones are gonna survive
Hahaha It won't be George Takei and the "Resistance."
-
As I noted on the other board, I think everyone should aggregate their Great White Hope support to RF. Of the three candidates he has the best chance to have a future role
Is this 1963? Your posts are disgraceful and you bring nothing to any conversation, you should be ashamed of yourself for writing that and posting it.
You guys need to stop being so soft and sensitive. Wasju is a good man
They would have struggled mightily on old BEB
That place was literally the Wild West of the internet. Those were fun times with people throwing verbal bombs at each other every day
LOL.... Wasn't that the birth place of Scotch??? That guy was f'n amazing. When men were men is right.
-
As I noted on the other board, I think everyone should aggregate their Great White Hope support to RF. Of the three candidates he has the best chance to have a future role
Is this 1963? Your posts are disgraceful and you bring nothing to any conversation, you should be ashamed of yourself for writing that and posting it.
You guys need to stop being so soft and sensitive. Wasju is a good man
They would have struggled mightily on old BEB
That place was literally the Wild West of the internet. Those were fun times with people throwing verbal bombs at each other every day
LOL.... Wasn't that the birth place of Scotch??? That guy was f'n amazing. When men were men is right.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0d8FTPv955I
-
Having Mussini and Amar out hurt forced CM to tighten his rotation, going with only 3 guards and giving RF more time. I think some of our improved play tonight was a result of this tighter rotation. Ellison, in particular, seems to perform better when he's not looking over his shoulder expecting to be yanked after every turnover, and RF certainly played loose and shot with greater confidence. This was clearly Bashir's best and most under control performance of the year.
I'm not saying to dump Mussini from the rotation. There are games where he will play and someone else won't, but I would prefer to see RF get the minutes that Amar's been getting. I think settling on an 8 man rotation improves everyone's focus and improves the team. We're not deep enough to be playing 10 guys.
To a degree this is true. I do think Mussini has value. He's the best shooter on the team. Need to limit his minutes and increase his usage when in the game.
Ellison is really good. I know he's played poor at times but people tend to magnify every miss or turnover he has.
When his offense comes within the flow of the game, he is actually quite effective. When he feels the need to be the man, not so good. Definite upside but needs to avoid the lazy passes, lackadaisical defense and brain farts (receiving passes while out of bounds on 2 occasions The threat of lost PT to next year's newbies will hopefully ensure more consistent focus -- as well as overall maturity..
-
Having Mussini and Amar out hurt forced CM to tighten his rotation, going with only 3 guards and giving RF more time. I think some of our improved play tonight was a result of this tighter rotation. Ellison, in particular, seems to perform better when he's not looking over his shoulder expecting to be yanked after every turnover, and RF certainly played loose and shot with greater confidence. This was clearly Bashir's best and most under control performance of the year.
I'm not saying to dump Mussini from the rotation. There are games where he will play and someone else won't, but I would prefer to see RF get the minutes that Amar's been getting. I think settling on an 8 man rotation improves everyone's focus and improves the team. We're not deep enough to be playing 10 guys.
To a degree this is true. I do think Mussini has value. He's the best shooter on the team. Need to limit his minutes and increase his usage when in the game.
Ellison is really good. I know he's played poor at times but people tend to magnify every miss or turnover he has.
When his offense comes within the flow of the game, he is actually quite effective. When he feels the need to be the man, not so good. Definite upside but needs to avoid the lazy passes, lackadaisical defense and brain farts (receiving passes while out of bounds on 2 occasions The threat of lost PT to next year's newbies will hopefully ensure more consistent focus -- as well as overall maturity..
It's the plays where he appears to be high on ecstasy that stand out. Like totally bizarre shots and passes that are not usually seen once kids hit age 12. By and large he's actually very solid. It's weird.
-
Having Mussini and Amar out hurt forced CM to tighten his rotation, going with only 3 guards and giving RF more time. I think some of our improved play tonight was a result of this tighter rotation. Ellison, in particular, seems to perform better when he's not looking over his shoulder expecting to be yanked after every turnover, and RF certainly played loose and shot with greater confidence. This was clearly Bashir's best and most under control performance of the year.
I'm not saying to dump Mussini from the rotation. There are games where he will play and someone else won't, but I would prefer to see RF get the minutes that Amar's been getting. I think settling on an 8 man rotation improves everyone's focus and improves the team. We're not deep enough to be playing 10 guys.
To a degree this is true. I do think Mussini has value. He's the best shooter on the team. Need to limit his minutes and increase his usage when in the game.
Ellison is really good. I know he's played poor at times but people tend to magnify every miss or turnover he has.
When his offense comes within the flow of the game, he is actually quite effective. When he feels the need to be the man, not so good. Definite upside but needs to avoid the lazy passes, lackadaisical defense and brain farts (receiving passes while out of bounds on 2 occasions The threat of lost PT to next year's newbies will hopefully ensure more consistent focus -- as well as overall maturity..
It's the plays where he appears to be high on ecstasy that stand out. Like totally bizarre shots and passes that are not usually seen once kids hit age 12. By and large he's actually very solid. It's weird.
Why do you think Pervis was never nervous?
-
Agree with post to just chill (didn't want to credit that post to Baldi for fear of Scheppy) don't take your posts on the subject that seriously but the repetitiveness of them is annoying at least to me. But must take exception to your assertion that the 3 white players are receiving undue support. You yourself are jokingly calling for consolidation to RF who in actuality does not receive undue support and I don't know any big fans of AliB. With Mussini you have a case. I like the kid as he came here from another country to play for my alma mater and from all indications is a great kid well liked by his teammates. Your best case for undue favoritism towards a player may well have been that showed towards Fred Lyson. Anyway, would rather be talking strictly about basketball than about race on these boards. Yours and Foad's opinions on undue favoritism toward players of a certain race have been duly noted unduly. :)
RF doesn't get enough support. He is right where I and many others expected him to be, but he's labeled as somewhat of a bust. It seems, if anything, WASJU and our fans are harder
on white players. I can't think of a single white player WASJU hasn't mocked from a very early stage.
Ron Rowan I liked. Phil Missere. Big Steve Shurina fan, Chris Mullin was ok
-
For us to have long term success we need guys like RF, Sima, Mussini, KY, to stick around 4 years. They'll all got better. And while they may never become superstars they are the type of guys that we envy on teams like Creighton, Butler, etc.
-
For us to have long term success we need guys like RF, Sima, Mussini, KY, to stick around 4 years. They'll all got better. And while they may never become superstars they are the type of guys that we envy on teams like Creighton, Butler, etc.
Unfortunately that's our current problem. Since Lavin left the cup board bare we have no upperclassman leadership that has been here except a midiocre Amar. Also we are currently expecting too much from our underclassmen because of it.
-
So I guess now wouldn't be a good time for my "All time Caucasian St Johns team"?
tru dat
Lol NY has gotten so soft, such a shame.
Amazing isn't it. If someone called me a drunk Irish motherfcker, I would laugh and agree with them. But then again, I'm not soft
Pajama boys. Some of these "men" make Rachel Maddow look like The Rock.
HAAAAA. They would never had survived that night we all met at that bar that PMG set up for that drinkathon years ago. If we ever turn into lord of the flies I know which ones are gonna survive
Of course not. You guys are so brave to stand up for white people.