6th Man of St. John's Basketball
St. John's Red Storm => In The Jungle... => Topic started by: Marco Baldi on April 02, 2015, 10:33:08 AM
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Not sure if we already had a thread for this. We could use this for all transfers of interest, in 1 way or another.
Just saw that Dylan Ennis will graduate and transfer from Villanova. Surprised at this
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Not sure if we already had a thread for this. We could use this for all transfers of interest, in 1 way or another.
Just saw that Dylan Ennis will graduate and transfer from Villanova. Surprised at this
This will be his third school too. Solid player this year, but guess he thought Brunson would eat into his minutes significantly.
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Not sure if we already had a thread for this. We could use this for all transfers of interest, in 1 way or another.
Just saw that Dylan Ennis will graduate and transfer from Villanova. Surprised at this
This will be his third school too. Solid player this year, but guess he thought Brunson would eat into his minutes significantly.
Just a guess, maybe goes to Hurley at Buffalo
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Local Kerwin Okoro transfering again
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Borzello first mentioned 6'10" Tariq Owens transferring, but I didn;t realize his dad is from Queens as the dad stated in the Zags Naz Reid post. They're going to talk with Chris and Matt.
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Borzello first mentioned 6'10" Tariq Owens transferring, but I didn;t realize his dad is from Queens as the dad stated in the Zags Naz Reid post. They're going to talk with Chris and Matt.
This kid put up the same numbers as Joey Delarosa.
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Why hello Terry Larrier
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Why hello Terry Larrier
Thought Lavin passed a St. John's ordinance 3 years ago-NO MORE ATHLETIC FORWARDS!
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Not sure if we already had a thread for this. We could use this for all transfers of interest, in 1 way or another.
Just saw that Dylan Ennis will graduate and transfer from Villanova. Surprised at this
This will be his third school too. Solid player this year, but guess he thought Brunson would eat into his minutes significantly.
Just a guess, maybe goes to Hurley at Buffalo
That wouldn't be a good move for what he's looking for. They already have a pair of fantastic PGs that will take priority over him running the show. If he doesn't mind being a third guard and probably winning a tournament game or two for a Cinderella than that would be a good stop.
Nova is better off in the tournament next year with Brunson than they were with both Ennis and Hilliard the past two years.
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Why hello Terry Larrier
??? I don't see anything about him transferring.
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Marquise Reed leaving Robert Morris
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Why hello Terry Larrier
??? I don't see anything about him transferring.
nothing out there on that
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ESPN I do not think has their running transfer list up yet for the 2015-2016 season
The list is always enormous
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Why hello Terry Larrier
??? I don't see anything about him transferring.
nothing out there on that
I was just suggesting that he might become available. Nothing else toit
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Marquise Reed leaving Robert Morris
Will be a very good A-10 guard, could even be big east
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Why hello Terry Larrier
??? I don't see anything about him transferring.
Shaka's gone. What's the selling point for VCU without him?
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Why hello Terry Larrier
??? I don't see anything about him transferring.
Shaka's gone. What's the selling point for VCU without him?
Downtown Richmond began heavily undergoing new construction 2-3 years ago. The city, and VCU campus, is much better today. VCU is Virginia's biggest school, with 34,000 students.
Grant and Shaka set up VCU, with the next coaching continuing their work, to be an A-10 top 4 team for years to come due to their higher profile across the country. If the next coach winds up being mediocre, it'll be interesting to see how long a leash they give him. Baldi wondered if Grant will be plugged right back in or not.
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couple of nice players leaving Rhode Island
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couple of nice players leaving Rhode Island
http://m.providencejournal.com/article/20150403/SPORTS/150409729
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Ennis is a nice player. He will help pretty much any school out right away.
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Some other names for potential transfer material:
Rasheed Sulaimon - not sure how bad/good his situation is regarding the allegations against him, but Dez Wells looked bad for a time until the truth came out and he was entirely cleared.
Shonn Miller - Cornell - 6'7" PF but plays bigger than that - can score and rebound well at the PF position - solid 6-7 man for next year. Might be in the mold for what Mullin is looking for in a talented back up.
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Some other names for potential transfer material:
Rasheed Sulaimon - not sure how bad/good his situation is regarding the allegations against him, but Dez Wells looked bad for a time until the truth came out and he was entirely cleared.
Shonn Miller - Cornell - 6'7" PF but plays bigger than that - can score and rebound well at the PF position - solid 6-7 man for next year. Might be in the mold for what Mullin is looking for in a talented back up.
Best to avoid players like Sulaimon until they are completely cleared (if ever).
I'm not too big on Miller from Cornell. I like what we have with Amar for three more years and especially with the likely addition of Williams, who will also be around three years. Diallo is my dream starter for a year (maybe two) that can do for us what Malik Abu did for NC State.
If Williams is added, Lee has to be the top target outside of keeping the current players and commitments in Queens.
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Some other names for potential transfer material:
Rasheed Sulaimon - not sure how bad/good his situation is regarding the allegations against him, but Dez Wells looked bad for a time until the truth came out and he was entirely cleared.
Shonn Miller - Cornell - 6'7" PF but plays bigger than that - can score and rebound well at the PF position - solid 6-7 man for next year. Might be in the mold for what Mullin is looking for in a talented back up.
Best to avoid players like Sulaimon until they are completely cleared (if ever).
I'm not too big on Miller from Cornell. I like what we have with Amar for three more years and especially with the likely addition of Williams, who will also be around three years. Diallo is my dream starter for a year (maybe two) that can do for us what Malik Abu did for NC State.
If Williams is added, Lee has to be the top target outside of keeping the current players and commitments in Queens.
I have no objections to the scenarios you have, but as we know too well, backup plans are important. If the staff thinks Amar can made a nice positive step forward, then Miller might not be needed.
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Some other names for potential transfer material:
Rasheed Sulaimon - not sure how bad/good his situation is regarding the allegations against him, but Dez Wells looked bad for a time until the truth came out and he was entirely cleared.
Shonn Miller - Cornell - 6'7" PF but plays bigger than that - can score and rebound well at the PF position - solid 6-7 man for next year. Might be in the mold for what Mullin is looking for in a talented back up.
Best to avoid players like Sulaimon until they are completely cleared (if ever).
I'm not too big on Miller from Cornell. I like what we have with Amar for three more years and especially with the likely addition of Williams, who will also be around three years. Diallo is my dream starter for a year (maybe two) that can do for us what Malik Abu did for NC State.
If Williams is added, Lee has to be the top target outside of keeping the current players and commitments in Queens.
I have no objections to the scenarios you have, but as we know too well, backup plans are important. If the staff thinks Amar can made a nice positive step forward, then Miller might not be needed.
I'd imagine the new staff is very pleased with inheriting Amar. Big kid, can play the four and five--maybe even the three in a pinch in a few years. Very skilled and a floor spacer that is as competitive and aggressive as anyone on the roster. His best basketball is ahead of him.
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When he gets comfortable he is going to be knocking them down from distance...spacing the floor for everyone else....(if he can earn his minutes with the talent being brought in...and control his fouling.)
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Coach K has NEVER kicked a player off the team. I'd avoid sulaimon like the plague. The public issue may be the private allegations but hear he was a horrible teammate and very selfish player.
We are already counting on two of those to reform - without any criminal whisperings about them. Don't need sulaimon added to the mix.
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If Mullin likes AA after working him out fine, but ppl have to go and he's a good candidate bc he couldn't get minutes on a paper thin team.
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If Mullin likes AA after working him out fine, but ppl have to go and he's a good candidate bc he couldn't get minutes on a paper thin team.
People don't "have to go." We have plenty of room, especially for a 6'9 235 promising big man.
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If we want a roster with capable players, which we'll need to compete, ppl do have to go. Do you think no one will go? Was AA not getting on the floor strictly a Lavin problem? What is promising? The guy had about 30 pts in 20 games.....
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If Mullin likes AA after working him out fine, but ppl have to go and he's a good candidate bc he couldn't get minutes on a paper thin team.
I hope Chris runs a motion style offense. With Amar's agility for his size, a second year to learn more, and putting in some good work, I can see him improving going in to next season.
In addition, coaches are not looked upon favorably if they are told by a coach they "have to go." AA might be ok with 5-10 minutes per game if he knows he's improving a lot to set himself up for a good junior/senior year. We don't know.
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I think AA can be a solid , 4 year contributor. A big body who will eventually be able to knock down the 3 ball. I saw signs last year .
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I think AA can be a solid , 4 year contributor. A big body who will eventually be able to knock down the 3 ball. I saw signs last year .
Obviously, Chris will find ways to get AA ready for a stretch 4 role. It could turn out really well for him.
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If we want a roster with capable players, which we'll need to compete, ppl do have to go. Do you think no one will go? Was AA not getting on the floor strictly a Lavin problem? What is promising? The guy had about 30 pts in 20 games.....
Asking me if I think "no one will go" is a very different thing than saying people "have to go." It would be strange for there to be no roster turnover after a coaching change. I think someone will go, and judging by the talent being targeted and the cryptic quote, I think Jones is probably going to transfer. I think that move makes sense for both sides. We lost four seniors and we weren't at full capacity to start with, so there is more than enough room.
I'm not for forcing kids out, but I am certainly for a coach being honest and up front about where the kids are in his plans.
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Do you guys think Lavin forced guys out?
AA has a good prospect who is his cousin. That's the best reason I have seen for keeping him, though not a good one, to recruit the cousin.
If Mullin wanted to release guys, based on his evaluations of players, it will not be panned but rather, it will come down as another fault of the old regime that the cupboard is so bare.
Back to AA as a player. Did he really prove himself last year?
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Mullin said he feels like the best players in the city should be expected to go to St. John's. AA may be dead wood. He doesn't seem to fit, unless the new staff likes him, of course. BTW, I am just for fielding the absolute best team, within the rules. I have waited long enough. Thanks.
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Amar is a serviceable player with size and experience. He's not gonna be forced out.
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Back to AA as a player. Did he really prove himself last year?
Last year he proved that he was every bit the free throw shooter Joey DL Rosa was.
35 percent from the floor, 23 percent from 3, 14 percent from the FT line. Yes, fourteen percent. Great screener though it goes without saying.
So as a freshman he proved he was awful. Maybe he gets better than that. How much better? Keep him, get rid of him, who cares. If Mullin can't recruit over a late spring recruit 14 percent FT shooter we're looking at a world of hurt.
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Back to AA as a player. Did he really prove himself last year?
Last year he proved that he was every bit the free throw shooter Joey DL Rosa was.
35 percent from the floor, 23 percent from 3, 14 percent from the FT line. Yes, fourteen percent. Great screener though it goes without saying.
So as a freshman he proved he was awful. Maybe he gets better than that. How much better? Keep him, get rid of him, who cares. If Mullin can't recruit over a late spring recruit 14 percent FT shooter we're looking at a world of hurt.
He only took seven FTs all season--which might be a better gripe with his game than the % considering how many guys he personally sent to the line (and trainer's table). He's got good form, so there is no reason to think he wouldn't drastically improve with a bigger sampling.
I'm a little surprised you are down on him considering how hard he plays and how much you respect you have for Chris Mullin. I'd think Mullin would have a big impact on an athletically limited shooter with good passing ability and coordination. I'm sure we'll hear or read about it 50 times by tomorrow night, but Kamsinski only started two games his first two seasons at Wisconsin. Bigs just take longer.
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Back to AA as a player. Did he really prove himself last year?
Last year he proved that he was every bit the free throw shooter Joey DL Rosa was.
35 percent from the floor, 23 percent from 3, 14 percent from the FT line. Yes, fourteen percent. Great screener though it goes without saying.
So as a freshman he proved he was awful. Maybe he gets better than that. How much better? Keep him, get rid of him, who cares. If Mullin can't recruit over a late spring recruit 14 percent FT shooter we're looking at a world of hurt.
He only took seven FTs all season--which might be a better gripe with his game than the % considering how many guys he personally sent to the line (and trainer's table). He's got good form, so there is no reason to think he wouldn't drastically improve with a bigger sampling.
I'm a little surprised you are down on him considering how hard he plays and how much you respect you have for Chris Mullin. I'd think Mullin would have a big impact on an athletically limited shooter with good passing ability and coordination. I'm sure we'll hear or read about it 50 times by tomorrow night, but Kamsinski only started two games his first two seasons at Wisconsin. Bigs just take longer.
Hey. Yes, I am down on him. First off, Lavin made terrible decisions with recruiting. I don't think many of Lavin's players are "safe." AA, should the new staff be down on him, is probably gonna get his best opportunity elsewhere. Mullin, who is trying to win, of course, may have better players in mind for spots, & he may not be willing to go the route where he languishes over guys who can barely get on the floor for nominal improvement.
I have great, great, great respect for Mullin, obviously. That said, everyone will play hard. Not an issue. And I agree with above sentiment, that Mullin wants "his guys" and the spot may be too valuable for AA. He might not be a D1 major guy.
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How many star recruit was AA? Do you think his freshman year reflected some skill, honestly? With Mullin coming in, we are probably better as a program & do not have to humor weird projects........
IDK. I'm not trying to be harsh. I just wanna see them open as many spots as possible.
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I thought AA showed flashes during his freshman year. Despite his horrible shooting percentages, he had pretty good form on his shot, wasn't afraid to battle for rebounds, is definitely a team player (constantly setting screens and rooting his team on), and played hard. He obviously has a ways to go (he was a freshman, after all), but the potential is clearly there. He needs to improve his footwork (O and D), understand the system (although, in his defense, no one really understood our "system" last year), and mature. I'm not claiming he's going to be first team BE as a senior, but I think he can be someone who averages 10 and 6, or provides useful minutes off the bench. Not every player on the team is going to average 15 points, 8 boards, 4 assists, 3 blocks, and 3 steals.
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I thought AA showed flashes during his freshman year. Despite his horrible shooting percentages, he had pretty good form on his shot, wasn't afraid to battle for rebounds, is definitely a team player (constantly setting screens and rooting his team on), and played hard. He obviously has a ways to go (he was a freshman, after all), but the potential is clearly there. He needs to improve his footwork (O and D), understand the system (although, in his defense, no one really understood our "system" last year), and mature. I'm not claiming he's going to be first team BE as a senior, but I think he can be someone who averages 10 and 6, or provides useful minutes off the bench. Not every player on the team is going to average 15 points, 8 boards, 4 assists, 3 blocks, and 3 steals.
Amar showed flashes of not sucking at times. I think he can be useful. He was awful at the beginning of the season. I think the coaching staff did a great job to improve him to being almost competent by the end of the season. Defense is easy, he shouldn't have been as lost as he was. He was constantly late sliding and switching. If you like that Amar is here and think he played well you should be complimenting the staff not taking shots at them. I dont hate Amar, but I do wish we would have gotten a more instinctive defender.
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Defensively is where most European players typically struggle the most when coming here. Amar is no different in this regard. His defense left a lot to be desired this year.
Bottom line is that with Mullin the level of talent on the roster is going to improve a lot. Amar will be a bench player. Hopefully he improves with more experience and minutes. However, I wouldn't expect him to be more than a bench role player.
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I agree.....I'd be a little surprised to see him last 3 more years, but who knows. There is definitely some potential there, but how much?
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I thought AA showed flashes during his freshman year. Despite his horrible shooting percentages, he had pretty good form on his shot, wasn't afraid to battle for rebounds, is definitely a team player (constantly setting screens and rooting his team on), and played hard. He obviously has a ways to go (he was a freshman, after all), but the potential is clearly there. He needs to improve his footwork (O and D), understand the system (although, in his defense, no one really understood our "system" last year), and mature. I'm not claiming he's going to be first team BE as a senior, but I think he can be someone who averages 10 and 6, or provides useful minutes off the bench. Not every player on the team is going to average 15 points, 8 boards, 4 assists, 3 blocks, and 3 steals.
Amar showed flashes of not sucking at times. I think he can be useful. He was awful at the beginning of the season. I think the coaching staff did a great job to improve him to being almost competent by the end of the season. Defense is easy, he shouldn't have been as lost as he was. He was constantly late sliding and switching. If you like that Amar is here and think he played well you should be complimenting the staff not taking shots at them. I dont hate Amar, but I do wish we would have gotten a more instinctive defender.
He did start (and finish) poorly, but he had a few game stretch where the potential was visible. Defensively, as you said, he often looked lost, but that can be improved. That's based more on intellect and intensity than ability. He showed the intensity, but not the knowledge of what he was supposed to be doing/how to keep your arms straight up while challenging a shot on the inside.
If you're taking my "system" comment as shots at the staff, so be it, but please also explain what our offensive system was (one on one does not qualify as a system). I, personally, am glad Lavin and co. were here, as I think they did raise the level of our program, but I also think it was time to move on. That said, I'm not sure how liking flashes of talent shown by a freshman over a three game stretch means someone has to be pleased with everything the coaching staff did.
Bringing it back to transfer talk, AA should be a serviceable backup over the next couple of years, and could potentially be a starter as a senior. We still need someone to play ahead of him.
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I thought AA showed flashes during his freshman year. Despite his horrible shooting percentages, he had pretty good form on his shot, wasn't afraid to battle for rebounds, is definitely a team player (constantly setting screens and rooting his team on), and played hard. He obviously has a ways to go (he was a freshman, after all), but the potential is clearly there. He needs to improve his footwork (O and D), understand the system (although, in his defense, no one really understood our "system" last year), and mature. I'm not claiming he's going to be first team BE as a senior, but I think he can be someone who averages 10 and 6, or provides useful minutes off the bench. Not every player on the team is going to average 15 points, 8 boards, 4 assists, 3 blocks, and 3 steals.
Amar showed flashes of not sucking at times. I think he can be useful. He was awful at the beginning of the season. I think the coaching staff did a great job to improve him to being almost competent by the end of the season. Defense is easy, he shouldn't have been as lost as he was. He was constantly late sliding and switching. If you like that Amar is here and think he played well you should be complimenting the staff not taking shots at them. I dont hate Amar, but I do wish we would have gotten a more instinctive defender.
He did start (and finish) poorly, but he had a few game stretch where the potential was visible. Defensively, as you said, he often looked lost, but that can be improved. That's based more on intellect and intensity than ability. He showed the intensity, but not the knowledge of what he was supposed to be doing/how to keep your arms straight up while challenging a shot on the inside.
If you're taking my "system" comment as shots at the staff, so be it, but please also explain what our offensive system was (one on one does not qualify as a system). I, personally, am glad Lavin and co. were here, as I think they did raise the level of our program, but I also think it was time to move on. That said, I'm not sure how liking flashes of talent shown by a freshman over a three game stretch means someone has to be pleased with everything the coaching staff did.
Bringing it back to transfer talk, AA should be a serviceable backup over the next couple of years, and could potentially be a starter as a senior. We still need someone to play ahead of him.
Amar did not come in as a McD's AA; he did not come in as a saviour. He came in and showed he had to learn the American game. One thing about him is that he is tough as he gave some good fouls this year and was not a push over. There were some improvements noted during the year so it indicates he is coachable. His numbers are on the face horrific but look through the numbers regarding the FT's 1 for seven is not an adequate sample. I wonder what the folks who want his head would have thought about Kaminsky after his first year. Look at his frosh numbers and they would have said he was useless and a waste of a scholarship. Not saying Amar will be a future AA but he I believe at the end of 4 years he will be looked upon as someone who contributed to the team's success as he has a coach who can work with slow guys who can't jump out of the gym.
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I agree Amar has the potential to be a solid contributor. He is big, tough, and can shoot the three. He was a frosh unfamiliar with American game and is young as well. I like his upside.
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I agree with all that but it's possible (maybe highly possible) he gets recruited over.
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5 fouls and 7 minutes a game.
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You had a great, great game...hope you enjoyed it.
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You had a great, great game...hope you enjoyed it.
Sick. Crowd was electric from starting lineups on. A lot different than the Duke/Mich St game. I did enjoy seeing all the Kentucky tears
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Anyone hearing a destination for Angel Nunez?
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You had a great, great game...hope you enjoyed it.
Sick. Crowd was electric from starting lineups on. A lot different than the Duke/Mich St game. I did enjoy seeing all the Kentucky tears
Shows how life looks so different in retrospect. I am so happy those sore loser Harrison twins didn't go to MD. Melo wouldn't have come, and probably Stone wouldn't have either :)
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I thought AA showed flashes during his freshman year. Despite his horrible shooting percentages, he had pretty good form on his shot, wasn't afraid to battle for rebounds, is definitely a team player (constantly setting screens and rooting his team on), and played hard. He obviously has a ways to go (he was a freshman, after all), but the potential is clearly there. He needs to improve his footwork (O and D), understand the system (although, in his defense, no one really understood our "system" last year), and mature. I'm not claiming he's going to be first team BE as a senior, but I think he can be someone who averages 10 and 6, or provides useful minutes off the bench. Not every player on the team is going to average 15 points, 8 boards, 4 assists, 3 blocks, and 3 steals.
Amar showed flashes of not sucking at times. I think he can be useful. He was awful at the beginning of the season. I think the coaching staff did a great job to improve him to being almost competent by the end of the season. Defense is easy, he shouldn't have been as lost as he was. He was constantly late sliding and switching. If you like that Amar is here and think he played well you should be complimenting the staff not taking shots at them. I dont hate Amar, but I do wish we would have gotten a more instinctive defender.
He did start (and finish) poorly, but he had a few game stretch where the potential was visible. Defensively, as you said, he often looked lost, but that can be improved. That's based more on intellect and intensity than ability. He showed the intensity, but not the knowledge of what he was supposed to be doing/how to keep your arms straight up while challenging a shot on the inside.
If you're taking my "system" comment as shots at the staff, so be it, but please also explain what our offensive system was (one on one does not qualify as a system). I, personally, am glad Lavin and co. were here, as I think they did raise the level of our program, but I also think it was time to move on. That said, I'm not sure how liking flashes of talent shown by a freshman over a three game stretch means someone has to be pleased with everything the coaching staff did.
Bringing it back to transfer talk, AA should be a serviceable backup over the next couple of years, and could potentially be a starter as a senior. We still need someone to play ahead of him.
sorry did not mean to come at you. I agree their was no offensive system. I thought you meant defense. We did get good shots and score points. Not sticking up for Lavin or even aruging with you. Just trying to be fair to him. Also happy he is gone
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I agree their was no offensive system.
Perhaps no system will become the new system.
SCORING OFFENSE G W-L Pts Avg/G
1. Villanova 18 16-2 1380 76.7
2. St. John's 18 10-8 1293 71.8
3. Xavier 18 9-9 1277 70.9
4. Providence 18 11-7 1264 70.2
5. Georgetown 18 12-6 1243 69.1
6. Butler 18 12-6 1238 68.8
7. Seton Hall 18 6-12 1203 66.8
8. DePaul 18 6-12 1185 65.8
9. Creighton 18 4-14 1150 63.9
10. Marquette 18 4-14 1109 61.6
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I agree their was no offensive system.
Perhaps no system will become the new system.
SCORING OFFENSE G W-L Pts Avg/G
1. Villanova 18 16-2 1380 76.7
2. St. John's 18 10-8 1293 71.8
3. Xavier 18 9-9 1277 70.9
4. Providence 18 11-7 1264 70.2
5. Georgetown 18 12-6 1243 69.1
6. Butler 18 12-6 1238 68.8
7. Seton Hall 18 6-12 1203 66.8
8. DePaul 18 6-12 1185 65.8
9. Creighton 18 4-14 1150 63.9
10. Marquette 18 4-14 1109 61.6
And again, just because we averaged the second most points, does not mean that our coach maximized the offensive talent on the team.
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I agree their was no offensive system.
Perhaps no system will become the new system.
SCORING OFFENSE G W-L Pts Avg/G
1. Villanova 18 16-2 1380 76.7
2. St. John's 18 10-8 1293 71.8
3. Xavier 18 9-9 1277 70.9
4. Providence 18 11-7 1264 70.2
5. Georgetown 18 12-6 1243 69.1
6. Butler 18 12-6 1238 68.8
7. Seton Hall 18 6-12 1203 66.8
8. DePaul 18 6-12 1185 65.8
9. Creighton 18 4-14 1150 63.9
10. Marquette 18 4-14 1109 61.6
And again, just because we averaged the second most points, does not mean that our coach maximized the offensive talent on the team.
Also when you give up 73.1 (last in BE) it is obvious that we did not score enough even with the second most points scored
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I agree their was no offensive system.
Perhaps no system will become the new system.
SCORING OFFENSE G W-L Pts Avg/G
1. Villanova 18 16-2 1380 76.7
2. St. John's 18 10-8 1293 71.8
3. Xavier 18 9-9 1277 70.9
4. Providence 18 11-7 1264 70.2
5. Georgetown 18 12-6 1243 69.1
6. Butler 18 12-6 1238 68.8
7. Seton Hall 18 6-12 1203 66.8
8. DePaul 18 6-12 1185 65.8
9. Creighton 18 4-14 1150 63.9
10. Marquette 18 4-14 1109 61.6
And again, just because we averaged the second most points, does not mean that our coach maximized the offensive talent on the team.
That's right. Conversely, it doesn't mean that he didn't. Complaining about the offense this past season is silly. We had the league's second leading scorer; the leading 3-pt shooter in league play; and 4 players averaging in double digits. Plus the list I already posted.
Scoring as much as we did with absolutely no post offensive whatsoever was a maximized performance. Our plethora of small ballers performed admirably on the offensive end.
Find something else to complain about. There's a lot of material.
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I agree their was no offensive system.
Perhaps no system will become the new system.
SCORING OFFENSE G W-L Pts Avg/G
1. Villanova 18 16-2 1380 76.7
2. St. John's 18 10-8 1293 71.8
3. Xavier 18 9-9 1277 70.9
4. Providence 18 11-7 1264 70.2
5. Georgetown 18 12-6 1243 69.1
6. Butler 18 12-6 1238 68.8
7. Seton Hall 18 6-12 1203 66.8
8. DePaul 18 6-12 1185 65.8
9. Creighton 18 4-14 1150 63.9
10. Marquette 18 4-14 1109 61.6
And again, just because we averaged the second most points, does not mean that our coach maximized the offensive talent on the team.
That's right. Conversely, it doesn't mean that he didn't. Complaining about the offense this past season is silly. We had the league's second leading scorer; the leading 3-pt shooter in league play; and 4 players averaging in double digits. Plus the list I already posted.
Scoring as much as we did with absolutely no post offensive whatsoever was a maximized performance. Our plethora of small ballers performed admirably on the offensive end.
Find something else to complain about. There's a lot of material.
You're right, we did score a lot of points. That said, we very rarely turned the ball over (15.5% - 1st in conference) and defensively blocked shots and stole the ball (top 5 block% and top 50 steal%) leading to fast break points. We were 9th in the country in experience (2.36 yrs), and that experience was also very talented.
Those things considered, did we score as much as we should have?
Our "system" was that if we couldn't score in transition, we would have a guard take the ball at the top of the key, have someone set a pick, and....well, then we'd just see what happened. I've seen more set plays in the first 30 minutes of the Duke/Wisc game then I saw all season for us.
I'm not trying to hate on Lavin, but giving your team a ball and saying, "Ok, go score" does not a system make.
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Fif you have been listening to our new coach, he does not believe in set plays. Move the ball in transition take quick shot, lots of threes, if that does not work, cut, curl and shoot. He said he does not want to be the guy calling plays for his players. He wants guys who can create. Sound familiar? Bo Ryan he is not.
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I agree their was no offensive system.
Perhaps no system will become the new system.
SCORING OFFENSE G W-L Pts Avg/G
1. Villanova 18 16-2 1380 76.7
2. St. John's 18 10-8 1293 71.8
3. Xavier 18 9-9 1277 70.9
4. Providence 18 11-7 1264 70.2
5. Georgetown 18 12-6 1243 69.1
6. Butler 18 12-6 1238 68.8
7. Seton Hall 18 6-12 1203 66.8
8. DePaul 18 6-12 1185 65.8
9. Creighton 18 4-14 1150 63.9
10. Marquette 18 4-14 1109 61.6
And again, just because we averaged the second most points, does not mean that our coach maximized the offensive talent on the team.
Also when you give up 73.1 (last in BE) it is obvious that we did not score enough even with the second most points scored
I don't think it matters how good your players if they are not all NBA lottery picks, 6 guys are going to slip on defense because they are winded and because they are in foul trouble. Lavin earned that last place mark with the year off he took from recruiting.
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Fif you have been listening to our new coach, he does not believe in set plays. Move the ball in transition take quick shot, lots of threes, if that does not work, cut, curl and shoot. He said he does not want to be the guy calling plays for his players. He wants guys who can create. Sound familiar? Bo Ryan he is not.
up tempo motion offense - love it
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I agree their was no offensive system.
Perhaps no system will become the new system.
SCORING OFFENSE G W-L Pts Avg/G
1. Villanova 18 16-2 1380 76.7
2. St. John's 18 10-8 1293 71.8
3. Xavier 18 9-9 1277 70.9
4. Providence 18 11-7 1264 70.2
5. Georgetown 18 12-6 1243 69.1
6. Butler 18 12-6 1238 68.8
7. Seton Hall 18 6-12 1203 66.8
8. DePaul 18 6-12 1185 65.8
9. Creighton 18 4-14 1150 63.9
10. Marquette 18 4-14 1109 61.6
And again, just because we averaged the second most points, does not mean that our coach maximized the offensive talent on the team.
Also when you give up 73.1 (last in BE) it is obvious that we did not score enough even with the second most points scored
I don't think it matters how good your players if they are not all NBA lottery picks, 6 guys are going to slip on defense because they are winded and because they are in foul trouble. Lavin earned that last place mark with the year off he took from recruiting.
I must concur, my good man. Too thin. Way too thin.
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Fif you have been listening to our new coach, he does not believe in set plays. Move the ball in transition take quick shot, lots of threes, if that does not work, cut, curl and shoot. He said he does not want to be the guy calling plays for his players. He wants guys who can create. Sound familiar? Bo Ryan he is not.
Bo ryan absolutely lets his guys play. Just cause they take their time doesnt mean that he commands every play. All five guys dribble, pass, shoot, and set screens.
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Fif you have been listening to our new coach, he does not believe in set plays. Move the ball in transition take quick shot, lots of threes, if that does not work, cut, curl and shoot. He said he does not want to be the guy calling plays for his players. He wants guys who can create. Sound familiar? Bo Ryan he is not.
Bo ryan absolutely lets his guys play. Just cause they take their time doesnt mean that he commands every play. All five guys dribble, pass, shoot, and set screens.
They definitely ran several set plays that I saw, and I didn't watch the whole game. Obviously you're not gonna have set plays every time down the court, but out of timeouts and after some made baskets, etc. And this is coming from someone who doesn't know the difference between a motion offense and a princeton offense. I may not know exactly what each system means, but I know when I see players moving around like they know where they're going, setting screens away from the ball, and making cuts, rather than just running a pick & roll where we never hit the roller over, and over, and over again.
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Let's keep this about transfers so Marillac can see when his boy Lee commits.
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I agree their was no offensive system.
Perhaps no system will become the new system.
SCORING OFFENSE G W-L Pts Avg/G
1. Villanova 18 16-2 1380 76.7
2. St. John's 18 10-8 1293 71.8
3. Xavier 18 9-9 1277 70.9
4. Providence 18 11-7 1264 70.2
5. Georgetown 18 12-6 1243 69.1
6. Butler 18 12-6 1238 68.8
7. Seton Hall 18 6-12 1203 66.8
8. DePaul 18 6-12 1185 65.8
9. Creighton 18 4-14 1150 63.9
10. Marquette 18 4-14 1109 61.6
And again, just because we averaged the second most points, does not mean that our coach maximized the offensive talent on the team.
Also when you give up 73.1 (last in BE) it is obvious that we did not score enough even with the second most points scored
I don't think it matters how good your players if they are not all NBA lottery picks, 6 guys are going to slip on defense because they are winded and because they are in foul trouble. Lavin earned that last place mark with the year off he took from recruiting.
I must concur, my good man. Too thin. Way too thin.
Now that is a legitimate gripe.
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Matt A started following University of Washington transfer Nigel Williams Goss on Twitter, so it looks like we're interested.
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i thought goss was staying west coast for sure?
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Matt A started following University of Washington transfer Nigel Williams Goss on Twitter, so it looks like we're interested.
I thought he declared for draft?
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Matt A started following University of Washington transfer Nigel Williams Goss on Twitter, so it looks like we're interested.
I thought he declared for draft?
Apparently surpred folks on that. Thought the same.
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Matt A started following University of Washington transfer Nigel Williams Goss on Twitter, so it looks like we're interested.
I thought he declared for draft?
Apparently surpred folks on that. Thought the same.
I just read it Thursday night I believe. Yes, here it is Actually considering it, so I'm off.
http://www.seattletimes.com/sports/uw-husky-basketball/huskiesrsquo-nigel-williams-goss-considering-nba-draft/ (http://www.seattletimes.com/sports/uw-husky-basketball/huskiesrsquo-nigel-williams-goss-considering-nba-draft/)
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Matt A started following University of Washington transfer Nigel Williams Goss on Twitter, so it looks like we're interested.
I thought he declared for draft?
Apparently surpred folks on that. Thought the same.
I just read it Thursday night I believe. Yes, here it is Actually considering it, so I'm off.
http://www.seattletimes.com/sports/uw-husky-basketball/huskiesrsquo-nigel-williams-goss-considering-nba-draft/ (http://www.seattletimes.com/sports/uw-husky-basketball/huskiesrsquo-nigel-williams-goss-considering-nba-draft/)
It says that if he leaves it is going to be for the NBA.
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Matt A started following University of Washington transfer Nigel Williams Goss on Twitter, so it looks like we're interested.
I thought he declared for draft?
Apparently surpred folks on that. Thought the same.
I just read it Thursday night I believe. Yes, here it is Actually considering it, so I'm off.
http://www.seattletimes.com/sports/uw-husky-basketball/huskiesrsquo-nigel-williams-goss-considering-nba-draft/ (http://www.seattletimes.com/sports/uw-husky-basketball/huskiesrsquo-nigel-williams-goss-considering-nba-draft/)
It says that if he leaves it is going to be for the NBA.
Check out the date.... It's from 2014.
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Jeff Borzello @jeffborzello
George Washington transfer Kethan Savage is headed to Butler, source tells ESPN.
Averaged 11.7 points this past season. Sit one, play one.
Nice pick up for Butler.