So his publisher made a mistake in identifying his birthplace. And Snopes verified the mistake. I'm not sure I get your point, Foad. I'm sure a smart guy like you wouldn't still be questioning the validity of the birth certificate. Or am I wrong about that?
And I have to say that the poster who earlier tried to absolve Trump of the birther fiasco by blaming it all on a 2008 Clinton staffer is delusional. The staffer (not Hillary) referred to Obama's "lack of American roots". He didn't say he wasn't born here. No one in their right mind would dispute that Trump was the man who advanced the birther claim and made it an outrageous national story. And worse, when the birth certificate was produced, he said he had reliable sources that could prove the certificate was fraudulent. Say what you want about Trump, but don't tell me that he, more than anyone, didn't own this shameful story.
Trump did the most to talk about the birther thing which I wasn't a fan of but it all started with democrats
http://www.politico.com/story/2011/04/birtherism-where-it-all-began-053563
Let me ask you a question: Why isn't Trump's behavior in this situation enough to make you hate his guts?
I cringed every time he brought it up. I cringe with Obama Muslim stuff. I cringe with Trump with some of the Spanish stuff even though I want a wall built too. I'm voting for him and my fiancee is spanish. If he was running against someone that I didnt think was a criminal I just might vote for the other person. heck I voted for Gore and Kerry because I hated GWB so much
But democrats started the birther thing
I get the email thing isn't a big deal to you but she flat out lied pretty much every step of the way and the email thing and private server to me is a monster issue aside from how the Clintons accumulated 200 million dollars and how they did it
I appreciate your pov. You're right in that I don't think the email thing is even a thing. I don't care that she lied about it either. Shes a politician. I'm a realist. They all lie. But she's opposing a liar and if you ask the people who have worked for him and with him, a career criminal. Tell me, why do you think it is that no one who has worked with Hillary says anything of the sort about her? Doesn't that tell you something?
Both sides think other candidate is a criminal. It will be interesting to see what happens when the dust settles.
I don't know anyone that works with her directly but I know someone who was a pilot on Marine one for the last couple of presidents and he knows a lot of the security people. He said they loved GWB and he treated them like friends,they liked Bill Clinton and Biden, they like Obama but he is very standoffish and is very guarded in what he says with them which I can't fault him for but he said they all hate Hillary and she is really nasty when the cameras aren't on.
So yeah I don't know anyone that works with her directly but this is kind of close and it's not like he is being partisan because he didnt even say anything really bad about the others
This election I totally understand why some might not like the other candidate and I don't fault them for voting the other way. The Hillary supporters who act like she has done nothing wrong ever are the ones that drive me nuts though
I don't think you are in that category
But I also don't like people assuming that all the Trump supporters are racist etc because I'm certainly as far from a racist as humanly possible.
I'm voting for him because if there is a 1% chance that the cesspool of washington politicians and the hanger ons who live off our tax money with no real interest in doing anything else other than enriching themselves can be shaken the hell up then it's a vote I don't mind taking a chance on
If Trump wants to create a better America for people other than himself, why has he not shared any of that with us? He hates Obamacare, and that's fine, but what's his solution? What his solution for anything? If there is one significant fault in Obama's presidency, it's that he wasn't able to unify the house. It's easy to say that all the GOP is now is a bunch of racists, and while there's clearly some truth in that, not all of them disagreed with him just because they wanted to see him fail. I think the fact that Hillary is respected by so many Republicans will help her to accomplish some of the things that Obama wasn't able to do. In the story you shared, Hillary is a different person with the cameras off. She's apparently hated and she's nasty. Maybe that's true. Maybe it isn't. Is it a reason to not vote for someone? I don't care if she's a sweetheart. I like her nasty. We need someone who is strong willed. Not a coward like Trump. I'm not suggesting that Hillary is perfect. She's made mistakes. I think anyone working in a career for 30+ years would. She's human.
With Trump, we know exactly the kind of person he is. How many mistakes has he made in the last year alone? Really, how many in just the last day?
There isn't one example of anything where Trump has shared an intelligent plan for anything at all. To vote for him because you think there's a 1% chance of political change is incredibly optimistic. What will he accomplish with congress when he can't even get along with Fox News?
We had a C student for 8 years in the White House. We all know how that turned out. On the morning of 9/11, George Bush looked like he wanted to make a run for his momma's skirt. I predict that Trump would crumble under any real pressure. That's just my take on him. He's never had to deal with any because he was born with a silver spoon in his mouth, and like Bloomberg said, a New Yorker knows a fraud when we see one.
And lastly, since you brought up Washington and hanger ons, don't you think you deserve to know what Trump's tax returns look like? Hillary shared hers.