Justin Simon

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pmg911

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Justin Simon
« on: May 08, 2019, 03:34:00 PM »
With no combine invite and no G-League combine invite, maybe Simon decides to come back...

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Re: Justin Simon
« Reply #1 on: May 08, 2019, 03:41:38 PM »
With no combine invite and no G-League combine invite, maybe Simon decides to come back...


He can’t. He needed to be invited and to attend the combine in order to return.

That is unless he didn’t actually sign with the agent like he tweeted.

Re: Justin Simon
« Reply #2 on: May 08, 2019, 03:59:00 PM »
He can hire an agent and come back as long as he requested a draft evaluation.

But since he was not invited to the combine he must decide to come back before the draft.  Only players who are invited to the combine can come back after the draft.

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Re: Justin Simon
« Reply #3 on: May 08, 2019, 06:05:43 PM »
He can hire an agent and come back as long as he requested a draft evaluation.

But since he was not invited to the combine he must decide to come back before the draft.  Only players who are invited to the combine can come back after the draft.



Where did you see this?  I'm not saying you are wrong at all (actually hope you aren't), but I haven't seen this anywhere.  It does make sense.

Here is a summary from Bleacher Report and this is similar to everything I've read thus far:

"Eligibility after the NBA draft

This is another common-sense rule change that the NCAA has made needlessly complex. The easiest solution here would be to say that college players with remaining eligibility can return to school within two weeks of going undrafted. Instead, the NCAA has narrowed the potential pool of players to those who participated in the NBA Draft Combine and given them only four days to decide.

This is a protection for players who have either been fed bad information or made a misinformed decision about their NBA standing. For them, being able to return to college and pursue a degree is a major boon. However, because of the combine condition, only a percentage of the players will benefit."

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Re: Justin Simon
« Reply #4 on: May 08, 2019, 06:11:52 PM »
There’s no way he’s an NBA player now. He should spend the summer working on guard skills and then return to school to show scouts why they should look at him.

He’s a poor man’s Dom Pointer, and Dom still can’t get to the league.
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Re: Justin Simon
« Reply #5 on: May 08, 2019, 06:52:18 PM »
Combine requirement is only for players that stay in draft.  If they go undrafted they can come back. 

Players that hired an agent and were not invited to combine must decide by May 29th to come back.  Here's a couple of articles.


https://www.google.com/amp/s/247sports.com/Article/2019-NBA-Draft-underclassmen-College-players-leaving-early-for-NBA-130482866/Amp/


https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.si.com/college-basketball/2019/nba-draft-ncaa-agent-rules-changes-explained
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Re: Justin Simon
« Reply #6 on: May 08, 2019, 07:05:59 PM »
There’s no way he’s an NBA player now. He should spend the summer working on guard skills and then return to school to show scouts why they should look at him.

Or he could spend the summer in NBA combines and then thereafter sign a Euro contract that earns him millions of dollars and ensures a long career that comprises banging Polish swimsuit models. Not everyone aspires to taking the Metro North back and forth to and from Scarsdale, but some people have small minds.

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Re: Justin Simon
« Reply #7 on: May 08, 2019, 07:44:25 PM »
Or he could spend the summer in NBA combines and then thereafter sign a Euro contract that earns him millions of dollars and ensures a long career that comprises banging Polish swimsuit models. Not everyone aspires to taking the Metro North back and forth to and from Scarsdale, but some people have small minds.

Europe would be just fine, but I don’t think he’s good enough right now.

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Re: Justin Simon
« Reply #8 on: May 08, 2019, 08:23:48 PM »
Simon is still attending class, so the door would be open if what JumpinJohnny posted is correct.
I think Simon would be tremendous in a 40 minutes of hell style of defense.

pmg911

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Re: Justin Simon
« Reply #9 on: May 09, 2019, 07:07:01 AM »
Or he could spend the summer in NBA combines and then thereafter sign a Euro contract that earns him millions of dollars and ensures a long career that comprises banging Polish swimsuit models. Not everyone aspires to taking the Metro North back and forth to and from Scarsdale, but some people have small minds.

Would normally agree with that thinking but I don't think the big money would actually be there for him.

That said, I would try to play in in Finland or Sweden to maximize the potential swimsuit model candidates

Re: Justin Simon
« Reply #10 on: May 09, 2019, 07:48:28 AM »
He should come back and increase his value. Would play well in CMA defensive oriented style.

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Re: Justin Simon
« Reply #11 on: May 09, 2019, 07:49:45 AM »
Europe would be just fine, but I don’t think he’s good enough right now.

Well then you're a dunce, because Amar Alibegowitz is a professional basketball player in Europe and so is Marc-Antoine Bourgault.

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Re: Justin Simon
« Reply #12 on: May 09, 2019, 08:21:56 AM »
Well then you're a dunce, because Amar Alibegowitz is a professional basketball player in Europe and so is Marc-Antoine Bourgault.

Yeah, how much are they getting paid?

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Re: Justin Simon
« Reply #13 on: May 09, 2019, 08:23:18 AM »
He should come back and increase his value. Would play well in CMA defensive oriented style.

He should come back so he first has value. Europe ain’t handing a million dollars to a defensive specialist without a position.

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Re: Justin Simon
« Reply #14 on: May 09, 2019, 08:45:37 AM »
Yeah, how much are they getting paid?

About what a middle manager from Scarsdale makes after 30 years of riding the metro north.

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Re: Justin Simon
« Reply #15 on: May 09, 2019, 09:17:59 AM »
Well then you're a dunce, because Amar Alibegowitz is a professional basketball player in Europe and so is Marc-Antoine Bourgault.

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Re: Justin Simon
« Reply #16 on: May 09, 2019, 09:23:21 AM »
There is a limit on American players per team.  Lesser talented Europeans fill the teams while US talent is imported in a limited way.   So Albigovic and Bourgault make it over a lesser talented US player like Simon.  Got to take care of the homeboys.

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Re: Justin Simon
« Reply #17 on: May 09, 2019, 09:45:03 AM »
There is a limit on American players per team.  Lesser talented Europeans fill the teams while US talent is imported in a limited way.   So Albigovic and Bourgault make it over a lesser talented US player like Simon.  Got to take care of the homeboys.

This is correct.  Plus if Simon thinks he can improve his game by staying, thereby generating a bigger contract after next season, it would make sense.  That said, he worked out for the Hawks yesterday and there is no indication yet that he is actually considering this.

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Re: Justin Simon
« Reply #18 on: May 09, 2019, 10:01:25 AM »
Simon probably has gotten as much out of college that he will get. He is destined for a career overseas and may not be good enough for a top Euro division. But there is money to be made in Israel, Czech, Japan, etc. Look at Hardy who is much more accomplished scorer has bounced around. He won't get drafted but I guess can make an impression during a summer league stint to get a developmental deal. I don't think a year under Anderson is going to change much for him but yes him coming back would help SJU immensly.     
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Re: Justin Simon
« Reply #19 on: May 09, 2019, 10:12:33 AM »
Justin turned 23 this week. After a prep year at Brewster, 1 at Arizona and 3 here he's ready to make some money and I don't blame him.
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