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We All Know It Goes On....

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mjdinkins

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We All Know It Goes On....
« on: July 06, 2009, 02:31:46 PM »
I, briefly spoke with someone who is very, much into the loop when it comes to the high school and college basketball scene.  He spoke on anonymity of the person (former Big East assistant coach) who he mentioned.  I probably could've gotten it out of him, if I really wanted to.  I'll probably do so at a later time, if I run into him again.

Nevertheless, the former Big assistant told him (paraphrase), "He was glad that he had gotten out of the Big East."  And, the person whom I spoke with asked him, "Why?"  The former Big East assistant went on to say (again, paraphrasing), "Because, they cheat like crazy!"

First of all, I know cheating goes on on collegiate level.  But, what I took from conversation was the Big East hoops assistant believed from past experiences that many of the Big East schools cheat more than the average conference.  I think if that is the case; it's due to the size of the conference and recruiting becomes a serious feeding frenzy for many of the assistant and head coaches in the Big East.

I think this thread will really get Baldi on a roll.  LOL   Nevertheless, it was somewhat interesting.
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Marco Baldi

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Re: We All Know It Goes On....
« Reply #1 on: July 06, 2009, 02:47:02 PM »
All you have to do is ask the right questions to the right people and its pretty easy to find out who is cheating. BY obvious I mean kids like Derrick Caracter riding around the Louisville campus in a Lexus. Same sort of thing is probably being done up at UConn,Villanova,Syracuse,West Va and you can probably add Cincy to that list now along with some others
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EddiemacMIA

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Re: We All Know It Goes On....
« Reply #2 on: July 06, 2009, 03:02:37 PM »
So we are cheating and still suck this bad? Lets go johnnies you cant have it both ways
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Marco Baldi

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Re: We All Know It Goes On....
« Reply #3 on: July 06, 2009, 03:05:27 PM »
Quote from: EddiemacMIA on July 06, 2009, 03:02:37 PM
So we are cheating and still suck this bad? Lets go johnnies you cant have it both ways

Who said St Johns was cheating?
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Re: We All Know It Goes On....
« Reply #4 on: July 06, 2009, 03:11:56 PM »
  St. john's just isn't any good at it (cheating).  Add it to the list,  right behind recruiting and scoring more than 60 points in a game.   Although we do dominate the Big east in most scoring droughts over 7 1/2 minutes.
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EddiemacMIA

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« Reply #5 on: July 06, 2009, 03:28:24 PM »
lol yea our scoring droughts are remarkable. I cant wait to tell my grandkids of the mythical tale where the johnnies barely scored 10 at the half against the dukies a few years back.
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Re: We All Know It Goes On....
« Reply #6 on: July 06, 2009, 04:52:13 PM »
Quote from: Marco Baldi on July 06, 2009, 02:47:02 PM
All you have to do is ask the right questions to the right people and its pretty easy to find out who is cheating. BY obvious I mean kids like Derrick Caracter riding around the Louisville campus in a Lexus. Same sort of thing is probably being done up at UConn,Villanova,Syracuse,West Va and you can probably add Cincy to that list now along with some others

Syracuse definitely. Cincy, we all know that program was built on cheating. Calhoun is dirty. It's no secret. Nova, I'm not so sure is cheating. What about Seton Hall? Who the **** would want to play there?
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Re: We All Know It Goes On....
« Reply #7 on: July 06, 2009, 05:22:42 PM »
Well I'd like to hear some more concrete things from this "big east assistant" on the cheating that goes on. Honestly this shouldn't be news to anyone as we all know that schools either break or bend some rules.
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Re: We All Know It Goes On....
« Reply #8 on: July 06, 2009, 09:37:46 PM »
I can say that duke and Carolina don't break the rules. And neither does. Coach Roberts
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Marco Baldi

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Re: We All Know It Goes On....
« Reply #9 on: July 06, 2009, 09:41:22 PM »
Quote from: kob24 on July 06, 2009, 09:37:46 PM
I can say that duke and Carolina don't break the rules. And neither does. Coach Roberts

Kob, what is your opinion on Villanova?
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LJSA

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Re: We All Know It Goes On....
« Reply #10 on: July 07, 2009, 04:19:51 PM »
I've heard Seton Hall is clean, despite recruiting sketchy characters.
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« Reply #11 on: July 07, 2009, 10:55:57 PM »
Quote from: kob24 on July 06, 2009, 09:37:46 PM
I can say that duke and Carolina don't break the rules. And neither does. Coach Roberts
that's because the "rules" are so easy to get around.  by hiring aau guys, norm is starting to get it.  starting.
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kob24

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Re: We All Know It Goes On....
« Reply #12 on: July 07, 2009, 11:27:32 PM »
lol krusty that was funny. marco i dont think they are clean but i also dont think they are fully cheating . put it like this they have dirt on their left pants leg that they can just wipe off opposed to mud bathing
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Tha Kid

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Re: We All Know It Goes On....
« Reply #13 on: July 08, 2009, 09:33:15 AM »
basically some schools are "smart" about it and others aren't.  Let's hope Norm "gets smart."
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Marillac

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Re: We All Know It Goes On....
« Reply #14 on: July 08, 2009, 12:34:58 PM »
Siena is clean and they are better than St. John's.   There are plenty of clean schools that don't need to cheat.  Those that do cheat are USUALLY doing small insignificant things anyway. 

Football is where things get crazy because there are so many nearly anonymous players and so much more at stake.
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sjd8886

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« Reply #15 on: July 08, 2009, 12:57:37 PM »
you dont know for sure siena is clean, or any school for that matter...not having been caught yet does not mean someone can say they are clean
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kob24

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Re: We All Know It Goes On....
« Reply #16 on: July 08, 2009, 01:03:21 PM »
I think mississippi state is mud bathing
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Marillac

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Re: We All Know It Goes On....
« Reply #17 on: July 08, 2009, 01:45:24 PM »
Quote from: SJD on July 08, 2009, 12:57:37 PM
you dont know for sure siena is clean, or any school for that matter...not having been caught yet does not mean someone can say they are clean
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That is a pretty cynical approach.  Guilty until proven innocent?

I know kids that were recruited to Siena.  I know kids that have played at Siena.  The kids that choose Siena or other MAAC schools are happy enough to have D-1 interest.  Can you picture Rossiter giving a list of demands?  LOL
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Not The Sleaveless Guy

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Re: We All Know It Goes On....
« Reply #18 on: July 08, 2009, 04:58:45 PM »
Quote from: kob24 on July 08, 2009, 01:03:21 PM
I think mississippi state is mud bathing
Bingo.
I heard Doron is making "demands" ... after which one BE school told him they were taking a pass.

Tobias Harris' hyper dad is interested in Calipari and KY.
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Not The Sleaveless Guy

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Re: We All Know It Goes On....
« Reply #19 on: July 08, 2009, 05:01:45 PM »
Quote from: Marco Baldi on July 06, 2009, 02:47:02 PM
All you have to do is ask the right questions to the right people and its pretty easy to find out who is cheating. BY obvious I mean kids like Derrick Caracter riding around the Louisville campus in a Lexus. Same sort of thing is probably being done up at UConn,Villanova,Syracuse,West Va and you can probably add Cincy to that list now along with some others
Caracter drove a Mercedes.
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