Pittsburgh (MSG) Post Game Discussion

In 98-99, and in 99-00 he had a damn good argument for National Coach of the Year.

Jarvis was a very good coach prior to coming here and for a few years after he came. At some point he either burnt out, became disenchanted, got too cocky, or whatever and stopped caring or trying enough to be a good coach. He would kneel down, scratch his chin, and ponder whether he and deuce would share the double or triple porterhouse after the game. At that point he was useless, but when he got here he was intense and a very good coach - one norm couldn't even come close to becoming.

It's nice to have a scape goat, but since this "horrible coach" has been fired, we've made zero post season tournaments. Argue all you want, but that's a fact.

Jarhead's record at SJ was 60 wins and 120 losses. Because he cheated, poorly. His greatest success was making the program a laughingstock by presiding over what SI called the 5th worst scandal in college basketball history. You can pine for that. I don't.

Jarvis was a very good coach prior to coming here and for a few years after he came. At some point he either burnt out, became disenchanted, got too cocky, or whatever and stopped caring or trying enough to be a good coach. He would kneel down, scratch his chin, and ponder whether he and deuce would share the double or triple porterhouse after the game. At that point he was useless, but when he got here he was intense and a very good coach - one norm couldn't even come close to becoming.

He did become a jerk. No one would deny that.
In the last full season he was here, the guy won 10 straight games.

Perfect, no. Relevant, yes.

Quote from: Poison on March 01, 2010, 12:50:51 PM

It's nice to have a scape goat, but since this "horrible coach" has been fired, we've made zero post season tournaments. Argue all you want, but that's a fact.

Jarhead's record at SJ was 60 wins and 120 losses. Because he cheated, poorly. His greatest success was making the program a laughingstock by presiding over what SI called the 5th worst scandal in college basketball history. You can pine for that. I don't.

"The 5th worst scandal in college basketball history" happened after Jarvis was fired.
You want to blame someone for it, blame the terrorist who fired him on Christmas Eve.

Quote from: Foad on March 01, 2010, 01:03:13 PM

Quote from: Poison on March 01, 2010, 12:50:51 PM

It's nice to have a scape goat, but since this "horrible coach" has been fired, we've made zero post season tournaments. Argue all you want, but that's a fact.

Jarhead's record at SJ was 60 wins and 120 losses. Because he cheated, poorly. His greatest success was making the program a laughingstock by presiding over what SI called the 5th worst scandal in college basketball history. You can pine for that. I don't.

"The 5th worst scandal in college basketball history" happened after Jarvis was fired.
You want to blame someone for it, blame the terrorist who fired him on Christmas Eve.

Pittsburgh was one incident in Skill for Life's cesspool of corruption. Anyway, argue with Sports Illustrated. It's the last time they ranked SJ in anything.

http://www.sportingnews.com/college-basketball/article/2009-08-17/college-basketballs-top-10-biggest-coaching-scandals

Quote from: Poison on March 01, 2010, 01:07:01 PM

Quote from: Foad on March 01, 2010, 01:03:13 PM

Quote from: Poison on March 01, 2010, 12:50:51 PM

It's nice to have a scape goat, but since this "horrible coach" has been fired, we've made zero post season tournaments. Argue all you want, but that's a fact.

Jarhead's record at SJ was 60 wins and 120 losses. Because he cheated, poorly. His greatest success was making the program a laughingstock by presiding over what SI called the 5th worst scandal in college basketball history. You can pine for that. I don't.

"The 5th worst scandal in college basketball history" happened after Jarvis was fired.
You want to blame someone for it, blame the terrorist who fired him on Christmas Eve.

Pittsburgh was one incident in Skill for Life's cesspool of corruption. Anyway, argue with Sports Illustrated. It's the last time they ranked SJ in anything.

http://www.sportingnews.com/college-basketball/article/2009-08-17/college-basketballs-top-10-biggest-coaching-scandals

You just posted a link from the Sporting News.

Quote from: Foad on March 01, 2010, 01:19:15 PM

Quote from: Poison on March 01, 2010, 01:07:01 PM

Quote from: Foad on March 01, 2010, 01:03:13 PM

Quote from: Poison on March 01, 2010, 12:50:51 PM

It's nice to have a scape goat, but since this "horrible coach" has been fired, we've made zero post season tournaments. Argue all you want, but that's a fact.

Jarhead's record at SJ was 60 wins and 120 losses. Because he cheated, poorly. His greatest success was making the program a laughingstock by presiding over what SI called the 5th worst scandal in college basketball history. You can pine for that. I don't.

"The 5th worst scandal in college basketball history" happened after Jarvis was fired.
You want to blame someone for it, blame the terrorist who fired him on Christmas Eve.

Pittsburgh was one incident in Skill for Life's cesspool of corruption. Anyway, argue with Sports Illustrated. It's the last time they ranked SJ in anything.

http://www.sportingnews.com/college-basketball/article/2009-08-17/college-basketballs-top-10-biggest-coaching-scandals

You just posted a link from the Sporting News.

So argue with the Sporting News then.

and gonzo...according to the great bill parcells, you are what your record says you are.

I am sure that the great Bill Parcels would be surprised to know that a real good coach didn´t receive any offer of these teams with a coach vacancy:

2004: Auburn, Georgetown, Houston, Miami, Stanford, UNLV, Xavier
2005: DePaul, Massachusetts, Purdue, Virginia.
2006: Cincinatti, Indiana, Missouri, North Carolina State, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Rutgers, Seton Hall, Temple.
2007: Arkansas, Kansas State, Kentucky, Michigan, Minnesota, Wake Forest, West Virginia.
2008: Indiana, LSU, Marquette, Massachusetts, Oklahoma State, Providence, Stanford.

Quote from: Poison on March 01, 2010, 01:07:01 PM

Quote from: Foad on March 01, 2010, 01:03:13 PM

Quote from: Poison on March 01, 2010, 12:50:51 PM

It's nice to have a scape goat, but since this "horrible coach" has been fired, we've made zero post season tournaments. Argue all you want, but that's a fact.

Jarhead's record at SJ was 60 wins and 120 losses. Because he cheated, poorly. His greatest success was making the program a laughingstock by presiding over what SI called the 5th worst scandal in college basketball history. You can pine for that. I don't.

"The 5th worst scandal in college basketball history" happened after Jarvis was fired.
You want to blame someone for it, blame the terrorist who fired him on Christmas Eve.

Pittsburgh was one incident in Skill for Life's cesspool of corruption. Anyway, argue with Sports Illustrated. It's the last time they ranked SJ in anything.

http://www.sportingnews.com/college-basketball/article/2009-08-17/college-basketballs-top-10-biggest-coaching-scandals

Interesting that three out of the nine teams on the list have made the tournament since--one team making a Final Four.

Interesting that three out of the nine teams on the list have made the tournament since--one team making a Final Four.

Likely those teams have gone back to trying to win while not getting caught cheating. Whereas SJ is concerned with not cheating, winning not so much.

foad u and wasju are freaking hilarious. im at my computer laughing like crazy

Quote from: Foad on March 01, 2010, 01:03:13 PM

Quote from: Poison on March 01, 2010, 12:50:51 PM

It's nice to have a scape goat, but since this "horrible coach" has been fired, we've made zero post season tournaments. Argue all you want, but that's a fact.

Jarhead's record at SJ was 60 wins and 120 losses. Because he cheated, poorly. His greatest success was making the program a laughingstock by presiding over what SI called the 5th worst scandal in college basketball history. You can pine for that. I don't.

"The 5th worst scandal in college basketball history" happened after Jarvis was fired.
You want to blame someone for it, blame the terrorist who fired him on Christmas Eve.

Did you enjoy watching the Elite 8 team?
To me Jarvis is like a crazy old girlfriend. Even if it ended really badly, the good times prevent me from thinking too poorly about her.

Quote from: Poison on March 01, 2010, 01:07:01 PM

Quote from: Foad on March 01, 2010, 01:03:13 PM

Quote from: Poison on March 01, 2010, 12:50:51 PM

It's nice to have a scape goat, but since this "horrible coach" has been fired, we've made zero post season tournaments. Argue all you want, but that's a fact.

Jarhead's record at SJ was 60 wins and 120 losses. Because he cheated, poorly. His greatest success was making the program a laughingstock by presiding over what SI called the 5th worst scandal in college basketball history. You can pine for that. I don't.

"The 5th worst scandal in college basketball history" happened after Jarvis was fired.
You want to blame someone for it, blame the terrorist who fired him on Christmas Eve.

Did you enjoy watching the Elite 8 team?
To me Jarvis is like a crazy old girlfriend. Even if it ended really badly, the good times prevent me from thinking too poorly anout her.

Norm could have coached the Elite 8 team. After that there was bupkis. Other than Hatten, what was there to enjoy? The weave? The failed out of bounds plays? His stupid bald grape head? The olympic quality boy did I coach good but they played lousy wince and rub the bridge of the nose? The audio version of Skills for Life? Sharif Fordham's parole hearing? What?

Worst. coach. ever.

Quote from: we are sju on March 01, 2010, 03:39:12 PM

Quote from: Poison on March 01, 2010, 01:07:01 PM

Quote from: Foad on March 01, 2010, 01:03:13 PM

Quote from: Poison on March 01, 2010, 12:50:51 PM

It's nice to have a scape goat, but since this "horrible coach" has been fired, we've made zero post season tournaments. Argue all you want, but that's a fact.

Jarhead's record at SJ was 60 wins and 120 losses. Because he cheated, poorly. His greatest success was making the program a laughingstock by presiding over what SI called the 5th worst scandal in college basketball history. You can pine for that. I don't.

"The 5th worst scandal in college basketball history" happened after Jarvis was fired.
You want to blame someone for it, blame the terrorist who fired him on Christmas Eve.

Did you enjoy watching the Elite 8 team?
To me Jarvis is like a crazy old girlfriend. Even if it ended really badly, the good times prevent me from thinking too poorly anout her.

Norm could have coached the Elite 8 team. After that there was bupkis. Other than Hatten, what was there to enjoy? The weave? The failed out of bounds plays? His stupid bald grape head? The olympic quality boy did I coach good but they played lousy wince and rub the bridge of the nose? The audio version of Skills for Life? Sharif Fordham's parole hearing? What?

Worst. coach. ever.

I did not like Jarvis and outside of Fran's team and watching Hatten it was not enjoyable. Jarvis did win at GW and he did coach for better or worse probably my favorite SJU team. Norm has presided over my 6 least favorite SJU teams of all time. And you can't presume to predict Norm's success with any team as he has never had any success.
To go further with my old girlfriend analogy, Norm is the one night stand you get pregnant than have to endure  six awful years of marriage with.

To go further with my old girlfriend analogy, Norm is the one night stand you get pregnant than have to endure  six awful years of marriage with.

And Jarvis is the one who gave you herpes, because you still have it 6 years later.

Quote from: we are sju on March 01, 2010, 04:02:15 PM

To go further with my old girlfriend analogy, Norm is the one night stand you get pregnant than have to endure  six awful years of marriage with.

And Jarvis is the one who gave you herpes, because you still have it 6 years later.

Norm is clearly not the cure for Herpes then.

Quote from: Foad on March 01, 2010, 04:12:21 PM

Quote from: we are sju on March 01, 2010, 04:02:15 PM

To go further with my old girlfriend analogy, Norm is the one night stand you get pregnant than have to endure  six awful years of marriage with.

And Jarvis is the one who gave you herpes, because you still have it 6 years later.

Norm is clearly not the cure for Herpes then.

True story- my girlfriend does print work on her off days for whenever she can book jobs and her agent called her for an audition for one of the drug companies who were casting for an ad for some herpes drug that they would use in magazines etc.

These jobs usually pay like 6k for a few hours of work. She told her agent no and I was arguing with her to go on the audition.

Then she said if she booked the job she'd be known as the herpes girl which would make me the herpes guy.

Let's just say no way was I going to let her go on that audition after that

 you can call me whatever you'd like for 6k!