Big East 2010-2011

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Big East 2010-2011
« on: April 20, 2010, 01:23:24 PM »
Where do you see us in the Big East next year??  So many players have left schools that I feel like it is natural for us to move up (granted I think most of us thought that last year).  I was just looking at all the teams and really only Pittsburgh looks to have a real strong returning group.  Think of all the games last year that we had leads at the half or later and turn those into wins with a better coach and we can really be looking into something special. 

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Re: Big East 2010-2011
« Reply #1 on: April 20, 2010, 01:29:57 PM »
I see us on the bubble.

Pitt is returning a lot, but remember last off season when the board said that Pittsburgh and Marquette weren't going to be good because they lost so much talent? They simply played guys who waited their turn, and reloaded to fill positions.

We'll need to see who is returning for us, what recruit(s) are signing on, and what kind of program that Lavin has for them in the off season. Whatever it is, I sure hope it's better than Norm Roberts' off season plan which consisted of nothing at all.

My guess all things things considered is 9th.


Re: Big East 2010-2011
« Reply #2 on: April 20, 2010, 01:45:03 PM »
I really think that besides the top 3 and Depaul last year all teams were real equal and it was just a matter of coaching which we were severely behind in.  There wasn't one game besides Syracuse where we had no chance to win the game.  My biggest fear is the teams reaction to Lavin and how they respond to a different coach.  Being mostly seniors you'd assume they'd suck it up and work hard to leave as winners but you never know as I'm sure many of them had strong feelings towards Norm.

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Re: Big East 2010-2011
« Reply #3 on: April 20, 2010, 02:14:15 PM »
The players that aren't going to welcome Lavin with open arms, can transfer right this minute. They were loyal to him, but me, it doesn't mean they should be given credit for it.

If anything, the players will learn how much Roberts wronged them by not making adjustments.

Re: Big East 2010-2011
« Reply #4 on: April 20, 2010, 02:22:30 PM »
optimistic 5th by turning all/most of those halftime leads into wins
realitstic 8th

Re: Big East 2010-2011
« Reply #5 on: April 20, 2010, 04:13:17 PM »
For those that can't remember who's coming and going here's a copy of this year's annual run down I keep for myself each year.  FYI I decide everyone who declares is gone until they decide otherwise.  Not sure if I have accurate track of transfers who will become eligible next year nor redshirts so please let me know what I'm missing/mistaken on.  Star rankings are based on Scout.

BE Changes for 2010/11

Syracuse:
Leaving:   Wes  Johnson,  Andy Rautins, Arinze Onuaku
Staying:      Brandon Triche, Scoop Jardine, Kris Joseph, Rick Jackson, Mookie Jones, Deshonte Riley, James Southerland
Coming:   5* Fab Melo-C, 4* Dion Waiters-SG, 3* CJ Fair-SF, Baye Moussa Keita-C

West Virginia:
Leaving:   DeSean Butler, Wellington Smith, Devin Ebanks
Staying:      Kevin Jones, Truck Bryant, Joe Mazzulla, John Flowers, Deniz Kilicli, Cam Throughman, Dan Jennings, Casey Mitchell, Johnny West,  Dalton Pepper
Coming:    4* Noah Cottril-PG, 2* David Nyarsuk-C

Villanova:
Leaving:   Scottie Reynolds, Reggie Redding
Staying:      Cory Fisher, Corey Stokes, Malik Wayns, Antonio Pena, Mouphtaou Yarou, Dominic Cheek, Maurice Sutton, Taylor King, Isaiah Armwood
Coming:   4* Jayvaughn Pinkston-PF, Markus Kennedy-C, James Bell-SF

Pittsburgh:
Leaving:   Jermaine Dixon, Chace Adams
Staying:      Ashton Gibbs, Brad Wanamaker, Gilbert Brown, Travon Woodall, Nasir Robinson, Dante Taylor, Gary McGhee, Dwight Miller, Talib Zanna, Lamar Patterson
Coming:   4* JJ Moore-SF, Cameron Wright-SG, Isaiah Epps-PG

Marquette:
Leaving:   Maurice Acker, David Cubillan, Lazar Hayward
Staying:      Jimmy Butler, Darius Johnson-Odom, Dwight Buycks, Chris Otule, Joe Fulce, Junior Cadougan, Erik Williams, Youssoupha Mbao
Coming:   4* Vander Blue-SG, 3* Reggie Smith-PG, Jamail Jones-SF, UR DJ Newbill-PG, JC Jae Crowder

Louisville:
Leaving:   Samardo Samuels,  Edgar Sosa, Reggie Delk, Jerry Smith
Staying:      Jarod Swopshire,  Preston Knowles, Terrance Jennings, Kyle Kuric, Peyton Siva, Rakeem Buckles, Mike Marra, George Goode, Stephan Van Tresse
Coming:   5* Justin Coleman-SF, 2* Randy Smith-PG

Georgetown:
Leaving:   Greg Monroe, Chris Wright
Staying:      Austin Freeman, Jason Clark, Julian Vaughn, Henry Sims, Hollis Thompson,  Jerrelle Bennimon, Vee Sanford,
Coming:   4* Nate Lubick-PF, Markel Starks-PG, 3* Moses Abraham-C

Notre Dame:
Leaving:   Tory Jackson, Luke Harangoady, Ben Hansbrough, Jonathan Peoples, Tim Andree
Staying:      Tim Abromaitis, Ty Nash, Carleton Scott, Joey Brooks, Jack Cooley, Mike Broghammer
Coming:   RS Scott Martin,  3* Eric Atkins-PG, Jerian Grant-SG, Alex Dragicevich-SF

South Florida:
Leaving:   Dominic Jones,  Mike Mercer, Ryan Kardok, Alex Rivas
Staying:      Gus Gilchrist, Jarrid Famous, Chris Howard, Toarlyn Fitzpatrick, Anthony Crater, Mike Burwell, Justin Leemow, Shaun Noriega
Coming:   2* Waverly Austin-C, Lavonte Dority-PG, Shedrick Haynes-JC/PG

Seton Hall:
Leaving:   Jeremy Hazell, Herb Pope, Jeff Robinson, Eugene Harvey, John Garcia, Stix Mitchell
Staying:      Keon Lawrence, Jordan Theodore, Jamel Jackson, Ferrakohn Hall, Melvin Oliver
Coming:   3* Fuquan Edwin-SF, Jesse Morgan-SG, 2* Deshaun Wiggins-SG, UR Eugene McCrory-PF

Cincinatti:
Leaving:   Lance Stephenson, Deonta Vaughn, Steve Toloy
Staying:      Yancy Gates, Rashad Bishop, Ibrahima Thomas, Cashmere Wright, Deon Dixon, Darnell Wilks, Larry Davis, Biggie McClain, Jaquon Parker
Coming:   3* Justin Jackson-PF, 2*Kelvin Gaines-C

Conn ecticut:
Leaving:   Jerome Dyson, Stanley Robinson, Jon Mandeldove, Gavin Edwards
Staying:      Kemba Walker, Alex Oriakhi, Jamaal Coombs-McDaniel, Ater Majok, Donnell Beverley, Charles Okwandu, Darius Smith
Coming:   4* Roscoe Smith-SF, Jeremy Lamb-SG, Michael Bradley-C, 3*Tyler Olander-PF

St Johns:
Leaving:   Anthony Mason Jr.
Staying:      DJ Kennedy, Dwight Hardy, Justin Burrell, Malik Boothe, Paris Horne, Justin Brownlee, Omari Lawrence, Sean Evans, Dele Coker, Rob Thomas, Malik Stith
Coming:   RS-Quincy Roberts,

Rutgers:
Leaving:   Patrick Jackson, Hamady Ndiaye, Mike Rosario,
Staying:      James Beatty, Jonathan Mitchell, Dane Miller, Mike Coburn, Austin Johnson, Brian Okam
Coming:   2* Gil Birutas-PF, Austin Carroll-SG

Providence:
Leaving:   Sharaud Curry, Brian McKenzie, James Still, Johnny Lacy, Russ Permenter
Staying:      Jamine Peterson, Marshon Brooks, Vincent Council, Bilal Dixon, Duke Mondy, Kyle Wright,
Coming:   4* Girard Coleman-SG, 3* Joseph Young-SG, 2* Ron Giplaye-PF

DePaul:
Leaving:    Mac Koshwal, Will Walker
Staying:      Mike Stovall, Jeremiah Kelly, Eric Wallace, Michael Bizoukas, Krys Faber, Devin Hill, Tony Freeland, Mario Stula, Ryan Siggins
Coming:   3* Brandon Young-PG, Moses Morgan-SF, 2* Walter Pitchford-C
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Re: Big East 2010-2011
« Reply #6 on: April 20, 2010, 04:29:06 PM »
For those that can't remember who's coming and going here's a copy of this year's annual run down I keep for myself each year.  FYI I decide everyone who declares is gone until they decide otherwise.  Not sure if I have accurate track of transfers who will become eligible next year nor redshirts so please let me know what I'm missing/mistaken on.  Star rankings are based on Scout.

BE Changes for 2010/11

Syracuse:
Leaving:   Wes  Johnson,  Andy Rautins, Arinze Onuaku
Staying:      Brandon Triche, Scoop Jardine, Kris Joseph, Rick Jackson, Mookie Jones, Deshonte Riley, James Southerland
Coming:   5* Fab Melo-C, 4* Dion Waiters-SG, 3* CJ Fair-SF, Baye Moussa Keita-C

West Virginia:
Leaving:   DeSean Butler, Wellington Smith, Devin Ebanks
Staying:      Kevin Jones, Truck Bryant, Joe Mazzulla, John Flowers, Deniz Kilicli, Cam Throughman, Dan Jennings, Casey Mitchell, Johnny West,  Dalton Pepper
Coming:    4* Noah Cottril-PG, 2* David Nyarsuk-C

Villanova:
Leaving:   Scottie Reynolds, Reggie Redding
Staying:      Cory Fisher, Corey Stokes, Malik Wayns, Antonio Pena, Mouphtaou Yarou, Dominic Cheek, Maurice Sutton, Taylor King, Isaiah Armwood
Coming:   4* Jayvaughn Pinkston-PF, Markus Kennedy-C, James Bell-SF

Pittsburgh:
Leaving:   Jermaine Dixon, Chace Adams
Staying:      Ashton Gibbs, Brad Wanamaker, Gilbert Brown, Travon Woodall, Nasir Robinson, Dante Taylor, Gary McGhee, Dwight Miller, Talib Zanna, Lamar Patterson
Coming:   4* JJ Moore-SF, Cameron Wright-SG, Isaiah Epps-PG

Marquette:
Leaving:   Maurice Acker, David Cubillan, Lazar Hayward
Staying:      Jimmy Butler, Darius Johnson-Odom, Dwight Buycks, Chris Otule, Joe Fulce, Junior Cadougan, Erik Williams, Youssoupha Mbao
Coming:   4* Vander Blue-SG, 3* Reggie Smith-PG, Jamail Jones-SF, UR DJ Newbill-PG, JC Jae Crowder

Louisville:
Leaving:   Samardo Samuels,  Edgar Sosa, Reggie Delk, Jerry Smith
Staying:      Jarod Swopshire,  Preston Knowles, Terrance Jennings, Kyle Kuric, Peyton Siva, Rakeem Buckles, Mike Marra, George Goode, Stephan Van Tresse
Coming:   5* Justin Coleman-SF, 2* Randy Smith-PG

Georgetown:
Leaving:   Greg Monroe, Chris Wright
Staying:      Austin Freeman, Jason Clark, Julian Vaughn, Henry Sims, Hollis Thompson,  Jerrelle Bennimon, Vee Sanford,
Coming:   4* Nate Lubick-PF, Markel Starks-PG, 3* Moses Abraham-C

Notre Dame:
Leaving:   Tory Jackson, Luke Harangoady, Ben Hansbrough, Jonathan Peoples, Tim Andree
Staying:      Tim Abromaitis, Ty Nash, Carleton Scott, Joey Brooks, Jack Cooley, Mike Broghammer
Coming:   RS Scott Martin,  3* Eric Atkins-PG, Jerian Grant-SG, Alex Dragicevich-SF

South Florida:
Leaving:   Dominic Jones,  Mike Mercer, Ryan Kardok, Alex Rivas
Staying:      Gus Gilchrist, Jarrid Famous, Chris Howard, Toarlyn Fitzpatrick, Anthony Crater, Mike Burwell, Justin Leemow, Shaun Noriega
Coming:   2* Waverly Austin-C, Lavonte Dority-PG, Shedrick Haynes-JC/PG

Seton Hall:
Leaving:   Jeremy Hazell, Herb Pope, Jeff Robinson, Eugene Harvey, John Garcia, Stix Mitchell
Staying:      Keon Lawrence, Jordan Theodore, Jamel Jackson, Ferrakohn Hall, Melvin Oliver
Coming:   3* Fuquan Edwin-SF, Jesse Morgan-SG, 2* Deshaun Wiggins-SG, UR Eugene McCrory-PF

Cincinatti:
Leaving:   Lance Stephenson, Deonta Vaughn, Steve Toloy
Staying:      Yancy Gates, Rashad Bishop, Ibrahima Thomas, Cashmere Wright, Deon Dixon, Darnell Wilks, Larry Davis, Biggie McClain, Jaquon Parker
Coming:   3* Justin Jackson-PF, 2*Kelvin Gaines-C

Conn ecticut:
Leaving:   Jerome Dyson, Stanley Robinson, Jon Mandeldove, Gavin Edwards
Staying:      Kemba Walker, Alex Oriakhi, Jamaal Coombs-McDaniel, Ater Majok, Donnell Beverley, Charles Okwandu, Darius Smith
Coming:   4* Roscoe Smith-SF, Jeremy Lamb-SG, Michael Bradley-C, 3*Tyler Olander-PF

St Johns:
Leaving:   Anthony Mason Jr.
Staying:      DJ Kennedy, Dwight Hardy, Justin Burrell, Malik Boothe, Paris Horne, Justin Brownlee, Omari Lawrence, Sean Evans, Dele Coker, Rob Thomas, Malik Stith
Coming:   RS-Quincy Roberts,

Rutgers:
Leaving:   Patrick Jackson, Hamady Ndiaye, Mike Rosario,
Staying:      James Beatty, Jonathan Mitchell, Dane Miller, Mike Coburn, Austin Johnson, Brian Okam
Coming:   2* Gil Birutas-PF, Austin Carroll-SG

Providence:
Leaving:   Sharaud Curry, Brian McKenzie, James Still, Johnny Lacy, Russ Permenter
Staying:      Jamine Peterson, Marshon Brooks, Vincent Council, Bilal Dixon, Duke Mondy, Kyle Wright,
Coming:   4* Girard Coleman-SG, 3* Joseph Young-SG, 2* Ron Giplaye-PF

DePaul:
Leaving:    Mac Koshwal, Will Walker
Staying:      Mike Stovall, Jeremiah Kelly, Eric Wallace, Michael Bizoukas, Krys Faber, Devin Hill, Tony Freeland, Mario Stula, Ryan Siggins
Coming:   3* Brandon Young-PG, Moses Morgan-SF, 2* Walter Pitchford-C

Chris Wright is still at G'town. 

Re: Big East 2010-2011
« Reply #7 on: April 20, 2010, 04:42:03 PM »
For those that can't remember who's coming and going here's a copy of this year's annual run down I keep for myself each year.  FYI I decide everyone who declares is gone until they decide otherwise.  Not sure if I have accurate track of transfers who will become eligible next year nor redshirts so please let me know what I'm missing/mistaken on.  Star rankings are based on Scout.

BE Changes for 2010/11

Syracuse:
Leaving:   Wes  Johnson,  Andy Rautins, Arinze Onuaku
Staying:      Brandon Triche, Scoop Jardine, Kris Joseph, Rick Jackson, Mookie Jones, Deshonte Riley, James Southerland
Coming:   5* Fab Melo-C, 4* Dion Waiters-SG, 3* CJ Fair-SF, Baye Moussa Keita-C

West Virginia:
Leaving:   DeSean Butler, Wellington Smith, Devin Ebanks
Staying:      Kevin Jones, Truck Bryant, Joe Mazzulla, John Flowers, Deniz Kilicli, Cam Throughman, Dan Jennings, Casey Mitchell, Johnny West,  Dalton Pepper
Coming:    4* Noah Cottril-PG, 2* David Nyarsuk-C

Villanova:
Leaving:   Scottie Reynolds, Reggie Redding
Staying:      Cory Fisher, Corey Stokes, Malik Wayns, Antonio Pena, Mouphtaou Yarou, Dominic Cheek, Maurice Sutton, Taylor King, Isaiah Armwood
Coming:   4* Jayvaughn Pinkston-PF, Markus Kennedy-C, James Bell-SF

Pittsburgh:
Leaving:   Jermaine Dixon, Chace Adams
Staying:      Ashton Gibbs, Brad Wanamaker, Gilbert Brown, Travon Woodall, Nasir Robinson, Dante Taylor, Gary McGhee, Dwight Miller, Talib Zanna, Lamar Patterson
Coming:   4* JJ Moore-SF, Cameron Wright-SG, Isaiah Epps-PG

Marquette:
Leaving:   Maurice Acker, David Cubillan, Lazar Hayward
Staying:      Jimmy Butler, Darius Johnson-Odom, Dwight Buycks, Chris Otule, Joe Fulce, Junior Cadougan, Erik Williams, Youssoupha Mbao
Coming:   4* Vander Blue-SG, 3* Reggie Smith-PG, Jamail Jones-SF, UR DJ Newbill-PG, JC Jae Crowder

Louisville:
Leaving:   Samardo Samuels,  Edgar Sosa, Reggie Delk, Jerry Smith
Staying:      Jarod Swopshire,  Preston Knowles, Terrance Jennings, Kyle Kuric, Peyton Siva, Rakeem Buckles, Mike Marra, George Goode, Stephan Van Tresse
Coming:   5* Justin Coleman-SF, 2* Randy Smith-PG

Georgetown:
Leaving:   Greg Monroe, Chris Wright
Staying:      Austin Freeman, Jason Clark, Julian Vaughn, Henry Sims, Hollis Thompson,  Jerrelle Bennimon, Vee Sanford,
Coming:   4* Nate Lubick-PF, Markel Starks-PG, 3* Moses Abraham-C

Notre Dame:
Leaving:   Tory Jackson, Luke Harangoady, Ben Hansbrough, Jonathan Peoples, Tim Andree
Staying:      Tim Abromaitis, Ty Nash, Carleton Scott, Joey Brooks, Jack Cooley, Mike Broghammer
Coming:   RS Scott Martin,  3* Eric Atkins-PG, Jerian Grant-SG, Alex Dragicevich-SF

South Florida:
Leaving:   Dominic Jones,  Mike Mercer, Ryan Kardok, Alex Rivas
Staying:      Gus Gilchrist, Jarrid Famous, Chris Howard, Toarlyn Fitzpatrick, Anthony Crater, Mike Burwell, Justin Leemow, Shaun Noriega
Coming:   2* Waverly Austin-C, Lavonte Dority-PG, Shedrick Haynes-JC/PG

Seton Hall:
Leaving:   Jeremy Hazell, Herb Pope, Jeff Robinson, Eugene Harvey, John Garcia, Stix Mitchell
Staying:      Keon Lawrence, Jordan Theodore, Jamel Jackson, Ferrakohn Hall, Melvin Oliver
Coming:   3* Fuquan Edwin-SF, Jesse Morgan-SG, 2* Deshaun Wiggins-SG, UR Eugene McCrory-PF

Cincinatti:
Leaving:   Lance Stephenson, Deonta Vaughn, Steve Toloy
Staying:      Yancy Gates, Rashad Bishop, Ibrahima Thomas, Cashmere Wright, Deon Dixon, Darnell Wilks, Larry Davis, Biggie McClain, Jaquon Parker
Coming:   3* Justin Jackson-PF, 2*Kelvin Gaines-C

Conn ecticut:
Leaving:   Jerome Dyson, Stanley Robinson, Jon Mandeldove, Gavin Edwards
Staying:      Kemba Walker, Alex Oriakhi, Jamaal Coombs-McDaniel, Ater Majok, Donnell Beverley, Charles Okwandu, Darius Smith
Coming:   4* Roscoe Smith-SF, Jeremy Lamb-SG, Michael Bradley-C, 3*Tyler Olander-PF

St Johns:
Leaving:   Anthony Mason Jr.
Staying:      DJ Kennedy, Dwight Hardy, Justin Burrell, Malik Boothe, Paris Horne, Justin Brownlee, Omari Lawrence, Sean Evans, Dele Coker, Rob Thomas, Malik Stith
Coming:   RS-Quincy Roberts,

Rutgers:
Leaving:   Patrick Jackson, Hamady Ndiaye, Mike Rosario,
Staying:      James Beatty, Jonathan Mitchell, Dane Miller, Mike Coburn, Austin Johnson, Brian Okam
Coming:   2* Gil Birutas-PF, Austin Carroll-SG

Providence:
Leaving:   Sharaud Curry, Brian McKenzie, James Still, Johnny Lacy, Russ Permenter
Staying:      Jamine Peterson, Marshon Brooks, Vincent Council, Bilal Dixon, Duke Mondy, Kyle Wright,
Coming:   4* Girard Coleman-SG, 3* Joseph Young-SG, 2* Ron Giplaye-PF

DePaul:
Leaving:    Mac Koshwal, Will Walker
Staying:      Mike Stovall, Jeremiah Kelly, Eric Wallace, Michael Bizoukas, Krys Faber, Devin Hill, Tony Freeland, Mario Stula, Ryan Siggins
Coming:   3* Brandon Young-PG, Moses Morgan-SF, 2* Walter Pitchford-C

Chris Wright is still at G'town.

I knew he would be but I thought I read he declared for the draft (which would have been confusing since the other Chris Wright did too).  Maybe it was I that was confused by the Chris Wright switcheroo.

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Re: Big East 2010-2011
« Reply #8 on: April 20, 2010, 04:55:32 PM »
I don't think Chris Wright can hack it in the NBDL. Seriously, he'd be out of his mind to leave.

Re: Big East 2010-2011
« Reply #9 on: April 20, 2010, 05:28:34 PM »
http://ncaabasketball.fanhouse.com/2010/04/14/big-east-exodus-not-so-big-this-time-watch-nova-gtown/

15. St. John's

Steve Lavin, huh? To his credit, he apparently gives great interviews, and predecessor Norm Roberts left him a much healthier, cleaner program than Roberts had inherited. It is still devoid of players, though, and increasingly irrelevant (if not completely so) in the Big East and in New York, where it only plays in a legendary building which also hosts the conference tournament every year. Making St. John's relevant again doesn't seem like such an insurmountable challenge, but whether Lavin can shake off seven years in analyst chairs and off sidelines (and recruiting trails) to do it is the big question. Whatever he does, don't bet on him doing it overnight. This might be a three-conference-win team.

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Re: Big East 2010-2011
« Reply #10 on: April 20, 2010, 05:59:52 PM »
http://ncaabasketball.fanhouse.com/2010/04/14/big-east-exodus-not-so-big-this-time-watch-nova-gtown/

15. St. John's

Steve Lavin, huh? To his credit, he apparently gives great interviews, and predecessor Norm Roberts left him a much healthier, cleaner program than Roberts had inherited. It is still devoid of players, though, and increasingly irrelevant (if not completely so) in the Big East and in New York, where it only plays in a legendary building which also hosts the conference tournament every year. Making St. John's relevant again doesn't seem like such an insurmountable challenge, but whether Lavin can shake off seven years in analyst chairs and off sidelines (and recruiting trails) to do it is the big question. Whatever he does, don't bet on him doing it overnight. This might be a three-conference-win team.

Geez I think that is a little pessimistic.  I don't think Lavin will be able to turn this around in a year but I sure as hell see more than 3 conference wins next year.

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Re: Big East 2010-2011
« Reply #11 on: April 20, 2010, 06:06:18 PM »
Depaul 13th? That's psychotic. They had one half way decent player in Koshwal. Not a good player, but a decent player, and he's leaving.

No way they win more than one game.
I bet they lose every single game they play in the BE.

Re: Big East 2010-2011
« Reply #12 on: April 20, 2010, 06:12:26 PM »
Also- I think you are missing Sean Kilpatrick for Cinn.

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Re: Big East 2010-2011
« Reply #13 on: April 20, 2010, 06:26:20 PM »
Also- I think you are missing Sean Kilpatrick for Cinn.

Cinci is going to need Sean to be Nick Van Exel to finish higher than us.

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Re: Big East 2010-2011
« Reply #14 on: April 20, 2010, 07:01:49 PM »
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http://ncaabasketball.fanhouse.com/2010/04/14/big-east-exodus-not-so-big-this-time-watch-nova-gtown/

15. St. John's

Steve Lavin, huh? To his credit, he apparently gives great interviews, and predecessor Norm Roberts left him a much healthier, cleaner program than Roberts had inherited. It is still devoid of players, though, and increasingly irrelevant (if not completely so) in the Big East and in New York, where it only plays in a legendary building which also hosts the conference tournament every year. Making St. John's relevant again doesn't seem like such an insurmountable challenge, but whether Lavin can shake off seven years in analyst chairs and off sidelines (and recruiting trails) to do it is the big question. Whatever he does, don't bet on him doing it overnight. This might be a three-conference-win team.

Those rankings are an absolute joke. DePaul, Rutgers, and Seton Hall will all be rebuilding next year and will finish in the bottom 3. I think Louisville, Notre Dame, and Cincinatti will be down and PC, SJU, and Uconn will move up. SJU will finish between 7th-9th, 15th is ridiculous whoever wrote that list doesnt know the Big East.

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Re: Big East 2010-2011
« Reply #15 on: April 20, 2010, 07:20:52 PM »

I predict 7th and a NCAA appearance even if they keep it at 65.
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Re: Big East 2010-2011
« Reply #16 on: April 20, 2010, 07:57:13 PM »
We are definitely better then- Depaul, Rutgers, Notre Dame, Providence, Seton Hall, Cincinnati, and South Florida. We could be better then- UCONN, Marquette, and Louisville. We are not as talented as the top teams, but we have experience. I think it would be a very poor showing if we didn't finish in the top half with a realistic chance to finish in top 5. Maybe I am being totally unrealistic but I am expecting a HUGE season.

Re: Big East 2010-2011
« Reply #17 on: April 20, 2010, 08:00:47 PM »
Also- I think you are missing Sean Kilpatrick for Cinn.

True.  Tks.

Re: Big East 2010-2011
« Reply #18 on: April 20, 2010, 09:45:26 PM »
We are definitely better then- Depaul, Rutgers, Notre Dame, Providence, Seton Hall, Cincinnati, and South Florida. We could be better then- UCONN, Marquette, and Louisville. We are not as talented as the top teams, but we have experience. I think it would be a very poor showing if we didn't finish in the top half with a realistic chance to finish in top 5. Maybe I am being totally unrealistic but I am expecting a HUGE season.

we'll def be better than marquette and potentially better than louisville. im thinking we'll finish somewhere between 6 and 9.

Re: Big East 2010-2011
« Reply #19 on: April 20, 2010, 10:08:38 PM »
I'd have to say somewhere between 5th and 8th. Maybe I'm a bit optimistic but the only teams I think will finish ahead of us is Syracuse, Pitt, Villanova and West Virginia. UConn looks pretty good but Calgoon seems to be losing it a bit. I can't see us realistically finishing below 8th. As most people mentioned Rutgers, DePaul, Seton Hall, USF just aren't in a position to succeed. Notre Dame and Providence don't look too promising either. GTown is definitely down and I think Marquette peaked last year. Where does that leave us? In the NCAA tourney in a wide open Big East!