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Can DJ Kennedy be our...
« on: August 12, 2010, 01:58:55 AM »
Evan Turner and run point forward. Could you see him playing a similar role to what Turner did for Ohio State?
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« Reply #1 on: August 12, 2010, 08:11:29 AM »
I say no.

I am actually hoping DJ role is reduced in Lavin's Offence. I would like to see Burrell, Brownlee  and Hardy play a much bigger role then DJ.

The last thing I want to see this year is DJ dribbling to get shots for himself.
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« Reply #2 on: August 12, 2010, 09:13:43 AM »
Quote from: Red2395 on August 12, 2010, 08:11:29 AM
I say no.

I am actually hoping DJ role is reduced in Lavin's Offence. I would like to see Burrell, Brownlee  and Hardy play a much bigger role then DJ.

The last thing I want to see this year is DJ dribbling to get shots for himself.

DJ has shown the ability to get better each and every year.  For that reason alone i dont think he shouldnt have a reduced role.  Secondly, DJ  is our best player and i wouldnt want to limit him and expand the role of someone who isnt as good as him.

The idea of him playing some minutes at PG should be explored early in the season.  Ohio State had Turner there b/c they didnt have an adequate PG and it allowed Lighty and Diebler to be on the court at the same.  If it could work for 10-15 mins a game (as long as teams dont want to press and run w/ us) it would allow more scoring to have Horne and Hardy on the court at the same time.  Obviously, this would be a poor mans version to what Ohio State had but it's the same idea.

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« Reply #3 on: August 12, 2010, 12:14:22 PM »
DJ is by FAR our best player. His role cant and shouldn't be reduced. Hopefully Boothe is healthy and plays decently. I think he is going to suprise some people. But his role has to be reduced he can't play 30+ minutes. Hardy has a role and it is not point guard, Stith may not be capable of playing at Bigeast level. I think putting DJ at Pg at times is something to explore. At the very least it would create matchup problems for the other teams. If this staff is as good as advertised we should see a HUGE improvement from DJ.
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« Reply #4 on: August 12, 2010, 12:48:08 PM »
in my opinion dj is a better option to run the point than boothe or stith..plus it allows for more scoring on the court. A lineup of dj hardy horne brownlee and burrell gives you a lot of different weapons
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Tha Kid

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« Reply #5 on: August 12, 2010, 04:26:12 PM »
No.  I agree with Red.
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« Reply #6 on: August 13, 2010, 12:46:28 AM »
Kennedy would be great if he was used as a better version of Reggie Jessie.

Asking him to put up 20+ per game is unrealistic. He can score-but not consistently.

I love him, but if this team has any prayer of dancing, the load should be handled by Burrell, with Hardy adding punch from outside.

One thing that is clear to me is that DJ is a leader, and that we need him to be our captain. Everyone, fans included, have been through hell and back with him.

Basketball hell.
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« Reply #7 on: August 13, 2010, 01:34:46 AM »
IDK, i just dont see it.  This is a guy who led us statistically in Pts, Rebs, and Assts (he did play by far the most minutes) and also was very reliable defensively.  The argument must be then that DJ was taking way too many shots and not being efficient in order for him to have a reduced role.  But that isnt the case, He took less than 11 shots a game last year and averaged 15 pts.  That pretty efficient and he is the most efficient offensive player we have.

Points Per Shot:
DJ                   1.42
Hardy             1.17
Burrell            1.22
Brownlee       1.07
Horne            1.09

Besides DJ, when you watch the games is there any other perimeter player we have who can consistenly drive and get to the rim to get some easy baskets or get to the line?  He had over 100 more Free throw attempts then the next best guy on the team.  We are going to need those 3-4 free points a game he gets us at the line and whatever extra he gets us around the rim. 

This isnt a seesaw where in order for the team to get better a player like DJ has to sacrifice his role in order for a player like Burrell to flourish with an increased role.  How about DJ keeps his role playing 30+ a game, does what he normally does, keeps the exact same numbers as last year and someone else steps up to help him out?  That seems like a much better option.
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« Reply #8 on: August 13, 2010, 01:59:01 AM »
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Tha Kid

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« Reply #9 on: August 13, 2010, 09:12:02 AM »
Because evan turner was the number 2 pick in the draft and it is a knock on him to suggest dj could do that. 

Not many teams are run like that and successful for a reason. Dj can't do it.
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« Reply #10 on: August 13, 2010, 09:14:45 AM »
Dave, why do you think dj can be evan turner-esque?

Handle is nowhere close, dj if he's scoring that much from point won't be distributing enough.  Without even getting into specifics it doesn't come close to passing the eye test.  What's your reasoning for it being a good plan?

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« Reply #11 on: August 13, 2010, 11:58:00 AM »
you can not reduce DJ's role...you reduce the roles of players who overachieve and can not handle the responsibility of carrying a team by themselves...this is what another recruit would have done for mase...you take the pressure off of the player, and his efficiency shoots up, and it benefits the team...i dont believe DJ is in that company though...as far as being our turner, why not?...hes not saying they have a similar talent level; they dont, its laughable how much better turner is than our boy, but DJ's skills, compared to what we have at point, means it could work...maybe not for a whole game, but it could be pretty beneficial...swapping DJ into the PG for boothe, you'll lose a little speed and a little on the handle...you'll gain a smarter player, arguably equal distributor of the basketball, and then, everything else DJ is, the shooting, the scoring, the rebounding...and also, the added bonus of having a player like hardy on the floor at the same time
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« Reply #12 on: August 13, 2010, 01:22:46 PM »
Quote from: SJD on August 13, 2010, 11:58:00 AM
you can not reduce DJ's role...you reduce the roles of players who overachieve and can not handle the responsibility of carrying a team by themselves...this is what another recruit would have done for mase...you take the pressure off of the player, and his efficiency shoots up, and it benefits the team...i dont believe DJ is in that company though...as far as being our turner, why not?...hes not saying they have a similar talent level; they dont, its laughable how much better turner is than our boy, but DJ's skills, compared to what we have at point, means it could work...maybe not for a whole game, but it could be pretty beneficial...swapping DJ into the PG for boothe, you'll lose a little speed and a little on the handle...you'll gain a smarter player, arguably equal distributor of the basketball, and then, everything else DJ is, the shooting, the scoring, the rebounding...and also, the added bonus of having a player like hardy on the floor at the same time
I agree!!
I also love Reggie Jessie but I am expecting an all Big east season this year from DJ. If we get Reggie Jessie instead we are in some trouble. 17 points 8rebounds 6 assists- We win 20 + games. I hope Burell plays well, I think he can, be he hasn't always. As for Hardy, I don't think he is as great as eveyone else. I hope he proves me wrong.
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« Reply #13 on: August 13, 2010, 01:33:36 PM »
I suppose that Kennedy will play less time than previous season. Reason: Dwayne Polee.
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« Reply #14 on: August 13, 2010, 03:15:58 PM »
Quote from: Tha Kid on August 13, 2010, 09:14:45 AM
Dave, why do you think dj can be evan turner-esque?

Handle is nowhere close, dj if he's scoring that much from point won't be distributing enough.  Without even getting into specifics it doesn't come close to passing the eye test.  What's your reasoning for it being a good plan?

Well firstly I never stated whether he can or can't. I just posed the question.

The question isn't meant to make dj out to be the next Evan Turner either.

Dj is probably our best penetrator, best at getting to the ft line, and he's a solid distributor. Asking him to play a point forward isn't out of the question.

Don't be shocked to see DJ come off the bench this season.
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Tha Kid

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« Reply #15 on: August 13, 2010, 06:00:05 PM »

You still haven't answered your own question.  Do you think it would be smart for him to take on an evan turner role?
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« Reply #16 on: August 13, 2010, 06:53:21 PM »
Quote from: Tha Kid on August 13, 2010, 06:00:05 PM

You still haven't answered your own question.  Do you think it would be smart for him to take on an evan turner role?

I know I didn't. I didn't start this thread to ramble my own opinion. I want everyone else to discuss and debate first.
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« Reply #17 on: August 14, 2010, 12:00:31 AM »
Boothe played well when healthy at the end of his junior year. Hes our starting PG, we need him to have a good year.
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« Reply #18 on: August 14, 2010, 10:00:05 AM »
Kennedy off the bench?  Why?!
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« Reply #19 on: August 14, 2010, 10:21:35 AM »
Kennedy off the bench would be a great idea if we had Lavor Postell, Erick Barkley and Ron Artest.

We don't have enough talent to not have him out there. I like his ability to involve others, and his intensity, but others have to step up.

This is it for Burrell. Time put up.
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