When a recruit commits elsewhere, I don't think it's that surprising that it turns into more of an off-topic. And is that so bad? First was about Baylor's lack of institutional control (not Gathers), then about Baldi thinking some programs are actually clean, then I brought up Iona, and then it snowballed. THreads evolve by their nature...while it is FANTASTIC they are so organized here, to expect there won't be any digression is to ignore the nature of the beast.