Jermaine Lawrence - PF - Cincinnati Transfer - Bayside, NY

And it is a bigger loss for Lawrence.  He is absolutely nuts to not want to play on the same team with Sir Dom.

 Paultz- If no one improves and Gift gets double red-shirted . No we won't be able to compete.  However, I think a whole summer and training with the staff will lead to big improvement in both Sampson and Obekpa, to round out their games to be more complete big men. Gift will be back for whatever that is worth....and, like Tiz said, we don't know what is coming down the pike.

 Let's see how it plays out before we pick up our bouncy ball and cry in a corner.

Guys I don't try to act like I know much but in the long run this isn't that bad. There is a reason lav cancelled the visit. Some of y'all have to use your head and look at the fine print. Look what I have said about the kid or what Fordham said or what Dave said or just recently what zags said.

King, your last post just picked me up a little thnx

You guys need to relax.  Why so negative? So what, we lost him.  This team will be better next year no matter what, based on the kids improving that are already here.  Are we not a better team than last season? Without Moe?

 Chill... the sky is not falling.

what he said!

Guys I don't try to act like I know much but in the long run this isn't that bad. There is a reason lav cancelled the visit. Some of y'all have to use your head and look at the fine print. Look what I have said about the kid or what Fordham said or what Dave said or just recently what zags said.

I was told a few days ago, we walked. I respect that, but hope the void for a solid big is filled this year.

Zags and braziller is going at it on twitter right now

Guys I don't try to act like I know much but in the long run this isn't that bad. There is a reason lav cancelled the visit. Some of y'all have to use your head and look at the fine print. Look what I have said about the kid or what Fordham said or what Dave said or just recently what zags said.

  Good stuff Kob.   Sounds like the kid was pushed towards Cincy, and there may be some "issues" down the line anyway.  Things happen for a reason.  Good luck to him.   They might play uglier basketball than we do.

Zags and braziller is going at it on twitter right now

“@AdamZagoria: Nobody's sniping at kids, just the mentor. Unless you're just too dumb to know the difference. When is Orlando Sanchez suiting up anyway?”

Guys I don't try to act like I know much but in the long run this isn't that bad. There is a reason lav cancelled the visit. Some of y'all have to use your head and look at the fine print. Look what I have said about the kid or what Fordham said or what Dave said or just recently what zags said.

This.

kob, thanks for the words of wisdom.

As for Lavin, he went all out for those kids last year and they came on board.  They look like they enjoy playing for him and they are developing well.

Lubick was a top 50 HS kid who has progressed nicely under Thompson tripling his scoring output as a frosh to become a difference maker in a big game as a junior.  Lavin complimented him after the game.  Lavin knows what he has to do here to beat teams with Mooses like him (no pun at our Moose)

How do you guys know this staff does not have a plan B?  They are capable recruiters and are building a solid program here.

Last year most on these boards were projecting Sampson to go elsewhere and no one had CO signing here.  Wrong on both counts.

Keep the faith.

On the contrary most of this board was saying Karr was coming regardless of what the experts outside were saying.

CO had too many twists and turns.

As for why the talk of no plan B?  Well Lavin was quoted as saying he had 2 and on 2 targets for 13.  We know who those targets are.  Well we know who the 1 is now.

Quote from: Tiznow on February 03, 2013, 01:57:08 PM

How do you guys know this staff does not have a plan B?  They are capable recruiters and are building a solid program here.

Last year most on these boards were projecting Sampson to go elsewhere and no one had CO signing here.  Wrong on both counts.

Keep the faith.

On the contrary most of this board was saying Karr was coming regardless of what the experts outside were saying.

CO had too many twists and turns.

As for why the talk of no plan B?  Well Lavin was quoted as saying he had 2 and on 2 targets for 13.  We know who those targets are.  Well we know who the 1 is now.

  Lavin also indicated a few weeks ago that he may not use any ships...

Disappointing to say the least.  We need a PF who can score and play in the post in the worst way.  Gift is nice, but he's not that guy.  Not sure where we go with this.  There are guys out there.  Uconn found them every year when Calhoun was at the helm.  Staff needs to make up time I think.  Will be hard to improve our record significantly next season without adding a post scorer of some type.

Quote from: Moose on February 03, 2013, 02:27:11 PM

Quote from: Tiznow on February 03, 2013, 01:57:08 PM

How do you guys know this staff does not have a plan B?  They are capable recruiters and are building a solid program here.

Last year most on these boards were projecting Sampson to go elsewhere and no one had CO signing here.  Wrong on both counts.

Keep the faith.

On the contrary most of this board was saying Karr was coming regardless of what the experts outside were saying.

CO had too many twists and turns.

As for why the talk of no plan B?  Well Lavin was quoted as saying he had 2 and on 2 targets for 13.  We know who those targets are.  Well we know who the 1 is now.

  Lavin also indicated a few weeks ago that he may not use any ships...

Then he needs to look at the roster because Dom and Amir ain't hitting a 4 inch growth spurt anytime soon.

And please lets not genuflect waiting for Gift to return to provide us all that rebounding.  Check out his rebounding numbers as the season wore on last year.  He had some great games.  In blowouts.  And we saw in the other thread your thoughts on stats accumulated in blowouts.

You guys need to relax.  Why so negative? So what, we lost him.  This team will be better next year no matter what, based on the kids improving that are already here.  Are we not a better team than last season? Without Moe?

 Chill... the sky is not falling.
 

This is a big loss. This is a kid who went to all of our games.

The loss of first Wainwright and now Lawrence is troubling, especially with both committing elsewhere before visiting. Sure. However, it sounds like we've been spoiled. We were down to the wire with a top 20 recruit who we had no business talking to before Lavin came in. We are by no means a perennial tournament team YET. Lavin's brought us this far with recruiting, I trust he has a lot left in the tank. We take the loss and move on.

Quote from: boo3 on February 03, 2013, 02:30:04 PM

Quote from: Moose on February 03, 2013, 02:27:11 PM

Quote from: Tiznow on February 03, 2013, 01:57:08 PM

How do you guys know this staff does not have a plan B?  They are capable recruiters and are building a solid program here.

Last year most on these boards were projecting Sampson to go elsewhere and no one had CO signing here.  Wrong on both counts.

Keep the faith.

On the contrary most of this board was saying Karr was coming regardless of what the experts outside were saying.

CO had too many twists and turns.

As for why the talk of no plan B?  Well Lavin was quoted as saying he had 2 and on 2 targets for 13.  We know who those targets are.  Well we know who the 1 is now.

  Lavin also indicated a few weeks ago that he may not use any ships...

Then he needs to look at the roster because Dom and Amir ain't hitting a 4 inch growth spurt anytime soon.

And please lets not genuflect waiting for Gift to return to provide us all that rebounding.  Check out his rebounding numbers as the season wore on last year.  He had some great games.  In blowouts.  And we saw in the other thread your thoughts on stats accumulated in blowouts.

Exactly.

Quote from: boo3 on February 03, 2013, 01:53:37 PM

You guys need to relax.  Why so negative? So what, we lost him.  This team will be better next year no matter what, based on the kids improving that are already here.  Are we not a better team than last season? Without Moe?

 Chill... the sky is not falling.
 

This is a big loss. This is a kid who went to all of our games.

So what he went to all of our games.  He lives nearby.  Should we turn him down and say he's only allowed to come if he verbals?

Any chance Orlando clears for next year or is that out of the realm of possibility?