Prediction:

Sharif's best contribution to society apparently is ability to make license plates.

Uncalled for.  Sharif is a good guy that got caught up in a bad situation. He has been working with kids To help them avoid what he fell into.

Quote from: Poison on October 24, 2011, 02:32:07 PM

Quote from: we are sju on October 24, 2011, 12:11:15 PM

Quote from: crgreen on October 24, 2011, 12:02:31 PM

Quote from: Poison on October 24, 2011, 11:55:54 AM

Quote from: crgreen on October 24, 2011, 11:46:51 AM

Quote from: stevep502 on October 24, 2011, 09:49:10 AM

We're going to need all 7 to step up...
(and 5-15 minutes from walk ons ?)

But Nuri is the biggest question mark, as his competition last year was less

Cant even fathom a guess, but we'll get a glimpse tomorrow 

I hope the coaches pick the walkons that play the best "D" -
 we dont need any scoring from them

You really think leading a JC team into the national tourney - playing ONLY against 19-20-21 year old competion and being first team JC AA was LESS than some of our other guys putting up stats against high school 16 and 17 year olds?

Who did Nuri go up against? What D1 player was he guarding last year.

What D1 player did ANY of our players guard, except Malik?

Moot discussion anyway, as the seaso is alread "lost"....

While it would have been great to have the three kids eligible, as far as won loss what are we talking 3 more wins maybe? This season was never going to be about our won loss record even with all the recruits. This is going to be a difficult season, but I am looking forward to it. While I agree Poison is way to negative and is almost morphing into Realfan, at least he is doing it early. I can guarantee you that there is going to be a bunch of delusional posters whining about our won loss record once the season starts.

No offense, but I think you're having some trouble comprehending the point of this thread. See on the top, there is a poll? It's pretty clear if you read the question. In no post on this thread did I mention anything about wins, or our 3 ineligible recruits. We have 7 players. Mentioning Lindsey is coming at this situation from a positive perspective.

This thread is about him.

No offense but you have been whining like a 12 year old girl whose boyfriend dumped her at the Sadie Hawkins dance for like 2 months now. Yes, we get it the kids didn't take care of their academic responsibilities and Lavin recruited kids with risks. Welcome to big time college basketball. It is time to move on. You have posted on these forums long enough to comprehend  the posts usually vary from the title topic around the 5th or 6th post.  Anyway you should be thanking me for the backhanded compliment as well as giving you something new to whine about.

I feel like I've been hit by a truck. Like I said, this thread is about Nurideen Lindsey, and his impact on the team. And yes, I appreciate you calling out that I'm usually right, even if I'm not very nice about it.

Quote from: fordham96 on October 24, 2011, 10:22:36 AM

Sharif's best contribution to society apparently is ability to make license plates.

Uncalled for.  Sharif is a good guy that got caught up in a bad situation. He has been working with kids To help them avoid what he fell into.

Disagree,

Quote from: Marillac on October 24, 2011, 03:15:25 PM

Quote from: fordham96 on October 24, 2011, 10:22:36 AM

Sharif's best contribution to society apparently is ability to make license plates.

Uncalled for.  Sharif is a good guy that got caught up in a bad situation. He has been working with kids To help them avoid what he fell into.

Disagree,

What do you mean you disagree? Marillac is right. That's true. You disagree with the truth?

Quote from: fordham96 on October 24, 2011, 03:44:17 PM

Quote from: Marillac on October 24, 2011, 03:15:25 PM

Quote from: fordham96 on October 24, 2011, 10:22:36 AM

Sharif's best contribution to society apparently is ability to make license plates.

Uncalled for.  Sharif is a good guy that got caught up in a bad situation. He has been working with kids To help them avoid what he fell into.

Disagree,

What do you mean you disagree? Marillac is right. That's true. You disagree with the truth?

My question is why in the heck was Fordham's name even brought up in this discussion? I can only guess you meant to predict will Nuri be a succesful JUCO transfer like Bootsy and Hatten or somewhat of a bust like Scott. I don't know what a role player like Fordham has to do with this discussion. I am not busting on you, just confused as to why he was mentioned. Would have made more sense to include Berry, Boo and Porter with the successes and some other JUCO bust (can't think of another off the top of my head) with the failures.

Quote from: Poison on October 24, 2011, 04:01:52 PM

Quote from: fordham96 on October 24, 2011, 03:44:17 PM

Quote from: Marillac on October 24, 2011, 03:15:25 PM

Quote from: fordham96 on October 24, 2011, 10:22:36 AM

Sharif's best contribution to society apparently is ability to make license plates.

Uncalled for.  Sharif is a good guy that got caught up in a bad situation. He has been working with kids To help them avoid what he fell into.

Disagree,

What do you mean you disagree? Marillac is right. That's true. You disagree with the truth?

My question is why in the heck was Fordham's name even brought up in this discussion? I can only guess you meant to predict will Nuri be a succesful JUCO transfer like Bootsy and Hatten or somewhat of a bust like Scott. I don't know what a role player like Fordham has to do with this discussion. I am not busting on you, just confused as to why he was mentioned. Would have made more sense to include Berry, Boo and Porter with the successes and some other JUCO bust (can't think of another off the top of my head) with the failures.

Curious why you don't include Hardy in your post - the most recent NON first team JC all-america guard we've brought in who turned out fairly effective....

Quote from: we are sju on October 24, 2011, 04:12:20 PM

Quote from: Poison on October 24, 2011, 04:01:52 PM

Quote from: fordham96 on October 24, 2011, 03:44:17 PM

Quote from: Marillac on October 24, 2011, 03:15:25 PM

Quote from: fordham96 on October 24, 2011, 10:22:36 AM

Sharif's best contribution to society apparently is ability to make license plates.

Uncalled for.  Sharif is a good guy that got caught up in a bad situation. He has been working with kids To help them avoid what he fell into.

Disagree,

What do you mean you disagree? Marillac is right. That's true. You disagree with the truth?

My question is why in the heck was Fordham's name even brought up in this discussion? I can only guess you meant to predict will Nuri be a succesful JUCO transfer like Bootsy and Hatten or somewhat of a bust like Scott. I don't know what a role player like Fordham has to do with this discussion. I am not busting on you, just confused as to why he was mentioned. Would have made more sense to include Berry, Boo and Porter with the successes and some other JUCO bust (can't think of another off the top of my head) with the failures.

Curious why you don't include Hardy in your post - the most recent NON first team JC all-america guard we've brought in who turned out fairly effective....

Bacause I forgot to.

Quote from: Poison on October 24, 2011, 10:32:09 AM

Quote from: fordham96 on October 24, 2011, 10:22:36 AM

Sharif's best contribution to society apparently is ability to make license plates.

He didn't do anything wrong when he was here. And, he's out of prison now, he has a family, and he's doing much better. We can't say that about every SJ BBall alumni.

Boy for someone who likes to take digs at people you sure do get sensitive yourself.

I am glad to hear Sharif has gotten his life back together.

Fordham96, I actually thought you were Sharif.  I guess you must have graduated from that other fine institution of highler learning then.   

  I expect Lindsey to put up 40 pts in 1 or 2 games this season. Thin team with one guard used to putting up points.

Quote from: Poison on October 24, 2011, 04:01:52 PM

Quote from: fordham96 on October 24, 2011, 03:44:17 PM

Quote from: Marillac on October 24, 2011, 03:15:25 PM

Quote from: fordham96 on October 24, 2011, 10:22:36 AM

Sharif's best contribution to society apparently is ability to make license plates.

Uncalled for.  Sharif is a good guy that got caught up in a bad situation. He has been working with kids To help them avoid what he fell into.

Disagree,

What do you mean you disagree? Marillac is right. That's true. You disagree with the truth?

My question is why in the heck was Fordham's name even brought up in this discussion? I can only guess you meant to predict will Nuri be a succesful JUCO transfer like Bootsy and Hatten or somewhat of a bust like Scott. I don't know what a role player like Fordham has to do with this discussion. I am not busting on you, just confused as to why he was mentioned. Would have made more sense to include Berry, Boo and Porter with the successes and some other JUCO bust (can't think of another off the top of my head) with the failures.

I forgot about Hardy, but I should have had him in there.

Fordham was a good role player, but when he came in, we didn't know what kind of recruit he'd be. Jucos are not an easy call. High School players are usually easier to predict. If Uconn, SU or Nova knew what kind of player Hatten would have turned into, they'd have recruited him, too. I included Fordham because there is a range in performance when it comes to our history with jucos.

In recent years IMOP:
Scott - **
Thornton - *****
Hatten - *****
Fordham - ***
Patterson - **
Hardy - ****
Brownlee - ****

Quote from: we are sju on October 24, 2011, 04:12:20 PM

Quote from: Poison on October 24, 2011, 04:01:52 PM

Quote from: fordham96 on October 24, 2011, 03:44:17 PM

Quote from: Marillac on October 24, 2011, 03:15:25 PM

Quote from: fordham96 on October 24, 2011, 10:22:36 AM

Sharif's best contribution to society apparently is ability to make license plates.

Disagree,

What do you mean you disagree? Marillac is right. That's true. You disagree with the truth?

My question is why in the heck was Fordham's name even brought up in this discussion? I can only guess you meant to predict will Nuri be a succesful JUCO transfer like Bootsy and Hatten or somewhat of a bust like Scott. I don't know what a role player like Fordham has to do with this discussion. I am not busting on you, just confused as to why he was mentioned. Would have made more sense to include Berry, Boo and Porter with the successes and some other JUCO bust (can't think of another off the top of my head) with the failures.

I forgot about Hardy, but I should have had him in there.

Fordham was a good role player, but when he came in, we didn't know what kind of recruit he'd be. Jucos are not an easy call. High School players are usually easier to predict. If Uconn, SU or Nova knew what kind of player Hatten would have turned into, they'd have recruited him, too. I included Fordham because there is a range in performance when it comes to our history with jucos.

In recent years IMOP:
Scott - **
Thornton - *****
Hatten - *****
Fordham - ***
Patterson - **
Hardy - ****
Brownlee - ****

Putting aside Sharif's post-SJU indiscretions and later rehabilitation he was at best a decent player mostly on the defensive end.  There is no way Nuri is expected to be that type of player at SJU.

He is expected to start and make a serious impact especially scoring on day one.  If he turns into a role player Sharif Fordham type, SJU is in BIG trouble. 
Uncalled for.  Sharif is a good guy that got caught up in a bad situation. He has been working with kids To help them avoid what he fell into.

Quote from: we are sju on October 24, 2011, 04:12:20 PM

Quote from: Poison on October 24, 2011, 04:01:52 PM

Quote from: fordham96 on October 24, 2011, 03:44:17 PM

Quote from: Marillac on October 24, 2011, 03:15:25 PM

Quote from: fordham96 on October 24, 2011, 10:22:36 AM

Sharif's best contribution to society apparently is ability to make license plates.

Uncalled for.  Sharif is a good guy that got caught up in a bad situation. He has been working with kids To help them avoid what he fell into.

Disagree,

What do you mean you disagree? Marillac is right. That's true. You disagree with the truth?

My question is why in the heck was Fordham's name even brought up in this discussion? I can only guess you meant to predict will Nuri be a succesful JUCO transfer like Bootsy and Hatten or somewhat of a bust like Scott. I don't know what a role player like Fordham has to do with this discussion. I am not busting on you, just confused as to why he was mentioned. Would have made more sense to include Berry, Boo and Porter with the successes and some other JUCO bust (can't think of another off the top of my head) with the failures.

Curious why you don't include Hardy in your post - the most recent NON first team JC all-america guard we've brought in who turned out fairly effective....

If this is directed at me, the answer is I somehow forgot about him. They say short term memory is the first thing to go. Also Avery Patterson would have been a good example of a terrible Juco transfer.

I expect Lindsey to put up 40 pts in 1 or 2 games this season. Thin team with one guard used to putting up points.

He's not the only guard used to putting up big points.  Both D'Angelo and Greene were big time scorers as well.

I think we need him to average 17 ppg, and he'll have every opportunity to do so. I guess if he does that puts him more in line with Hatten than Bootsy.

If Avery Patterson played in the Patriot League, he'd have put up 26 per game.
I had never heard of him before Norm's keen eye found him in the middle of nowhere.

Lindsey was always a prolific scorer, and expected to be a big star at LaSalle before tragedy hit.
I'm counting on him becoming the player that scored at will in Philadelphia. If he is, we'll be able to compete.

I know it is off topic, but how good was hardy coming out of hs? Why didn't he prep instead of going to jc? Thanks if anyone knows, i always wondered.

I know it is off topic, but how good was hardy coming out of hs? Why didn't he prep instead of going to jc? Thanks if anyone knows, i always wondered.

http://johnnyjungle.com/columns/over-the-airwaves/a-bronx-tale-dwight-hardy/

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/09/sports/ncaabasketball/09redstorm.html

He prepped and still didn't qualify.  Fortunately, he eventually got things together.

I'm hoping he's most like Boo since STJ really needs PG skills as well as scoring and Boo, by his senior year, had both.  If not Boo then Hatten will have to do. ; )

I'll bite, with the caveat that I watched him play for 25 minutes so far. He reminds me of none of the players in the poll and of no player I have ever seen in a SJ uniform. If I had to pick someone, Stephon Marbury.

 :-\JOHN WALL?