Big East schedule Over/Under

Quote from: redstorm212 on February 29, 2012, 03:18:19 PM

Quote from: Marco Baldi on February 25, 2012, 07:05:23 PM

Quote from: boo3 on February 25, 2012, 05:54:37 PM

Lots of 7's and 8's. Nice Job. I think we get one more which will lock up 7. FTR, I predicted 8.  Still a chance.

 Baldi and Realfan will bring up the rear with 3 and 5 wins respectively.   LOL!

Glad to be wrong. But the bog east sucks this year

C'mon Baldi. Big East isn't that bad. I read an article this morning saying the Big East could get 10 bids. I think realistically they will get 8-9, but why do you have to make excuses for your wrong prediction, just say the team exceeded your expectations.

Big East is overrated imo. How many teams outside of Cuse, do you think can win it all?
Oh the team has definitely exceded my expectations. Dunlap has done an incredible job.

How many teams nationally can win it all?  That's not a very good measuring stick.   BE isn't overrated because it's deep but as you point out it's not especially top heavy.  I think there's five teams that should be favored to win it all (though many more have a chance) and they're all from different conferences.  But getting 8-10 in.  That's a sign of quality play throughout the conference.  The Big 10 is the only conference with a better conference RPI.

Quote from: Marco Baldi on February 29, 2012, 03:58:42 PM

Quote from: redstorm212 on February 29, 2012, 03:18:19 PM

Quote from: Marco Baldi on February 25, 2012, 07:05:23 PM

Quote from: boo3 on February 25, 2012, 05:54:37 PM

Lots of 7's and 8's. Nice Job. I think we get one more which will lock up 7. FTR, I predicted 8.  Still a chance.

 Baldi and Realfan will bring up the rear with 3 and 5 wins respectively.   LOL!

Glad to be wrong. But the bog east sucks this year

C'mon Baldi. Big East isn't that bad. I read an article this morning saying the Big East could get 10 bids. I think realistically they will get 8-9, but why do you have to make excuses for your wrong prediction, just say the team exceeded your expectations.

Big East is overrated imo. How many teams outside of Cuse, do you think can win it all?
Oh the team has definitely exceded my expectations. Dunlap has done an incredible job.

How many teams nationally can win it all?  That's not a very good measuring stick.   BE isn't overrated because it's deep but as you point out it's not especially top heavy.  I think there's five teams that should be favored to win it all (though many more have a chance) and they're all from different conferences.  But getting 8-10 in.  That's a sign of quality play throughout the conference.  The Big 10 is the only conference with a better conference RPI.

Good post.

Put it this way, would you surprised by any other team besides Cuse, didn't make it out of the 1st round?

Quote from: yankcranker on February 29, 2012, 06:34:38 PM

Quote from: Marco Baldi on February 29, 2012, 03:58:42 PM

Quote from: redstorm212 on February 29, 2012, 03:18:19 PM

Quote from: Marco Baldi on February 25, 2012, 07:05:23 PM

Quote from: boo3 on February 25, 2012, 05:54:37 PM

Lots of 7's and 8's. Nice Job. I think we get one more which will lock up 7. FTR, I predicted 8.  Still a chance.

 Baldi and Realfan will bring up the rear with 3 and 5 wins respectively.   LOL!

Glad to be wrong. But the bog east sucks this year

C'mon Baldi. Big East isn't that bad. I read an article this morning saying the Big East could get 10 bids. I think realistically they will get 8-9, but why do you have to make excuses for your wrong prediction, just say the team exceeded your expectations.

Big East is overrated imo. How many teams outside of Cuse, do you think can win it all?
Oh the team has definitely exceded my expectations. Dunlap has done an incredible job.

How many teams nationally can win it all?  That's not a very good measuring stick.   BE isn't overrated because it's deep but as you point out it's not especially top heavy.  I think there's five teams that should be favored to win it all (though many more have a chance) and they're all from different conferences.  But getting 8-10 in.  That's a sign of quality play throughout the conference.  The Big 10 is the only conference with a better conference RPI.

Good post.

Put it this way, would you surprised by any other team besides Cuse, didn't make it out of the 1st round?

G'Town, but that's it.

Edit:  Marquette too, but not that suprised.

I was surprised last year when so many BE teams dropped like dead fish.

Outside of top 4 seeds I'm never overly surprised by any upset.  Look at bracketology today.  BE seeds:  #1-Cuse, #3 Marquette and G Town, #4 Ville, #6 UND, #10 Cincy, #11 Hall, UConn, #12-WVU.

Again, they're deep but not necessarily top heavy and really that was the case last year as well but the pollsters and the bracket formers didn't know it, I am an uber-positive STJ fan but .  So no, I wouldn't be shocked if even Louisville and certainly any team below them loses but nor would I be surprised if Cincy and any team below them that actually makes it in the end wins a game or two.  And they're not supposed to given their seeding.  I will say that Ville is the team I'd be most surprised to see lose of the 4 seeds in today's bracketology, others being FSU, Indiana and Wisconsin, in fact I'll go so far as to predict that the Big 10 will be the conference with the highest seeds leaving the earliest this year.

Last year 9 of the 10 teams in from the BE were top 6 seeds or better, though as I said before that was a bit of smoke and mirrors by the conference PR department.  So yes last year was surprising.  This year it won't be so much.

Quote from: jr49 on February 29, 2012, 04:54:25 PM

Quote from: Marco Baldi on February 25, 2012, 07:05:23 PM

Quote from: boo3 on February 25, 2012, 05:54:37 PM

Lots of 7's and 8's. Nice Job. I think we get one more which will lock up 7. FTR, I predicted 8.  Still a chance.

 Baldi and Realfan will bring up the rear with 3 and 5 wins respectively.   LOL!

Glad to be wrong. But the bog east sucks this year

Marco, wow, is that weak. You knew what conference SJU played in when you made your picks. Another chance for you. Glover shooting% + - 680 when your team done for season?

Speak English and I'll respond

We doing over/ under. Field goal % number for Glover 680. You under or over. He not getting any attention. You a fan of theirs so thought you might like to give him some props.

Quote from: Marco Baldi on February 29, 2012, 05:03:26 PM

Quote from: jr49 on February 29, 2012, 04:54:25 PM

Quote from: Marco Baldi on February 25, 2012, 07:05:23 PM

Quote from: boo3 on February 25, 2012, 05:54:37 PM

Lots of 7's and 8's. Nice Job. I think we get one more which will lock up 7. FTR, I predicted 8.  Still a chance.

 Baldi and Realfan will bring up the rear with 3 and 5 wins respectively.   LOL!

Glad to be wrong. But the bog east sucks this year

Marco, wow, is that weak. You knew what conference SJU played in when you made your picks. Another chance for you. Glover shooting% + - 680 when your team done for season?

Speak English and I'll respond

We doing over/ under. Field goal % number for Glover 680. You under or over. He not getting any attention. You a fan of theirs so thought you might like to give him some props.

I'm still misunderstanding. But Glover is ridiculous when he gets the rock down low. He also benefits from Machado getting him the ballbin position to succed

Quote from: fordham96 on February 29, 2012, 04:48:34 PM

Overrated compared to what?  Overrated is a relative term.  If I am a pitcher and go 24-2 one year and everyone says I am the greatest and the next year I go 19-10 and people say I am overrated, but it turns out my 19 wins are still better then everyone else, where am I overrated?  Compared to myself the year before?

Is the BE as good as it was last year, probably not.  Definitely a step down with traditional powers like Pitt, Villanova and now UCONN having off years.  No doubt.  But overrated, compared to who?  The PAC 10, the SEC, the ACC.  I would match the BE on a consistent basis this year over any of those conferences top to bottom.   The Big 10 and the Big 12 maybe but certainly the Big East will have NCAA participation comparable if not better then both of those conferences even this year.

Now the MAAC, that is a different story.  No doubt the BE is down compared to the MAAC.  St. Peter's and Canisius would probably be around 8-10 in the BE this year and Iona would win the conference.

What does the MAAC have anything to do with this thread?

Marquette and Georgetown are in 2nd and 3rd place in the Big East. These teams put a scare into you come NCAA tourny time? Not me. Georgetown might not make it out of the 1st round. Notre Dame,South FLorida are next. More 1st round casualties

The MAAC part is a joke and again you don't have an answer for my question.  You say they don't scare you (I have no idea what that means since you don't coach or play any games).  Then who does?  Does Florida (who lost to Rutgers)?  How about Florida St, they lost to UCONN on a neutral floor already this year.  That is a UCONN team with a 7-10 league record.

Does Vandy?  Does Wisconsin who lost to Marquette at home this year?  Again it is easy to sit there and name teams that don't scare you then it is to name teams WITH EVIDENCE YOU DON'T PROVIDE that do scare you.  Do you understand what the term relative means?  It means relative to EVERYONE else!!!!  By your account there is a lot of mediocrity in college basketball, if that is the case then the BE is still the best.

I know Kentucky scares you, gee you really going on a limb there.  I guess your conference sucks if you don't have 10 teams as good as Kentucky.

By my count they have 6 perhaps 7 locks for the NCAA's as of tonight (SU, Marquette, ND, Georgetown, Louisville and now Cincy and perhaps S Florida with that win tonight at Louisville).  Throw in WVU, UCONN and SHU and you could be looking at 8-9 teams.  That is the standard.  Before last year the BE had not won an NCAA title since they expanded to 16 teams in 2006.  So what?  So just because they don't have the best team or the most dominant team does not mean they don't have the best conference since 2006.  Anyone will tell you they do by a country mile.  This idea that because a team gets upset in the 1st or 2nd round in a 1 and done Tourney is evidence your conference stinks is nonsense.

Again answer the question, if they are overrated name the better conferences, name the better teams and then tell me why you think they are better, be specific.  If you cannot do that your overrated comment means nothing, overrated compared to what?

Just seems like the talent has dropped off from previous years, individually, as a team and in conference. Georgetown should not be a top 10 team and Marquette was better last year. Talent live just isn't there all around. You have Barnes and Davis, than there's a huge dropped. Just my opinion, you don't have to agree

Just seems like the talent has dropped off from previous years, individually, as a team and in conference. Georgetown should not be a top 10 team and Marquette was better last year. Talent live just isn't there all around. You have Barnes and Davis, than there's a huge dropped. Just my opinion, you don't have to agree

What?  First off again you said overrated?  That means that they are rated over conferences that they should not be.  Name those conferences. 

Everyone acknowledges the conference was better last year but keep in mind the BE last year may have been the best year a conference EVER had.  Period.  They got 11 teams in the Tourney.  They had 9 of the 11 teams seeded 6 or better (Georgetown, SJU, Cincy 6 seeds, WVU a 5 seed, Louisville a 4 seed, Syracuse and UCONN 3 seeds, ND a 2 seed and Pitt a 1 seed combined with Nova a 9 seed and Marquette a 11 seed).  That means the Committee thought the Big East had 9 of the top 24 teams in the country (More than a 3rd from 1 conference!!!!).   That is RIDICULOUS strength.  INSANE.

And Marquette?  Seriously.  They are 24-6 this year and are headed for a sweet sixteen seed.  They were an 11 seed last year and probably were one of the final 3-4 teams to get in the field.  How in the world can you say they are worse this year?

Georgetown did not have Wright at the end of last year and completely tanked.  This year they don't have Wright but they seem to be playing much better at the end of the year.

Do you think Marquette is better than last year?

Do you think Marquette is better than last year?

That is a joke right?  Good one.