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Quote from: Poison on July 25, 2013, 11:58:33 AM

Quote from: paultzman on July 24, 2013, 12:27:17 PM

M'Q blog's take on season;


D’Angelo Harrison, G, St. John’s — The controversial sophomore was suspended the last six games of the season last year, but he’ll return with a clean slate as an upperclassman needing to prove his worth. The numbers have always been there — he averaged 17.8 points per game — now it’s time for it to produce wins for Steve Lavin’s group. If he keeps his head on straight, admittedly a big “if,” he’ll earn First Team honors.

Second Team:

Jakarr Sampson, F, St. John’s — Last year’s Big East Rookie of the Year performed admirably and will need to be Harrison’s No. 2 for a St. John’s team that, shocker, will again be one of the youngest in the country. He’s more athlete than basketball player and another offseason of work and understanding of the game will do him good. He averaged 14.9 points and 6.6 rebounds per game last year. His sophomore numbers should look even better.

Third Team;

Rysheed Jordan, G, St. John’s — One freshman had to make all-conference honors, so why not Jordan? The 6-foot-3 point guard chose the Johnnies over UCLA and enters the fold as the 17th best prospect in the 2013 class, the highest-ranked newcomer in the conference. He’s a powerful scorer who runs the break well but must show he can run a team. Given the minutes he’ll likely need to play, he should do just that.


Honorable mention candidates

Ryan Arcidiacono, G, Villanova
Khyle Marshall, F, Butler
Kellen Dunham, F, Butler
D’Vauntes Smith-Rivera, G, Georgetown
Eugene Teague, C, Seton Hall
Chris Obekpa, C, St. John’s
Jajuan Johnson, G, Marquette
Eli Carter, G, Rutgers
Nate Lubick, F, Georgetown

Eli Carter??? Maybe at UF. Ha

“@nybuckets: .@PaintTouches Did his own take on the Way Too Early Big East teams. Definitely different: http://painttouches.com/2013/07/24/all-big-east-team-predictions-july-edition/”

Do you find it odd that Orlando Sanchez isn't on a pre season team or even honorable mention?

not really.  no one has seen him play.

Quote from: redmen4life on July 25, 2013, 12:11:59 PM

Quote from: Poison on July 25, 2013, 11:58:33 AM

Quote from: paultzman on July 24, 2013, 12:27:17 PM

M'Q blog's take on season;


D’Angelo Harrison, G, St. John’s — The controversial sophomore was suspended the last six games of the season last year, but he’ll return with a clean slate as an upperclassman needing to prove his worth. The numbers have always been there — he averaged 17.8 points per game — now it’s time for it to produce wins for Steve Lavin’s group. If he keeps his head on straight, admittedly a big “if,” he’ll earn First Team honors.

Second Team:

Jakarr Sampson, F, St. John’s — Last year’s Big East Rookie of the Year performed admirably and will need to be Harrison’s No. 2 for a St. John’s team that, shocker, will again be one of the youngest in the country. He’s more athlete than basketball player and another offseason of work and understanding of the game will do him good. He averaged 14.9 points and 6.6 rebounds per game last year. His sophomore numbers should look even better.

Third Team;

Rysheed Jordan, G, St. John’s — One freshman had to make all-conference honors, so why not Jordan? The 6-foot-3 point guard chose the Johnnies over UCLA and enters the fold as the 17th best prospect in the 2013 class, the highest-ranked newcomer in the conference. He’s a powerful scorer who runs the break well but must show he can run a team. Given the minutes he’ll likely need to play, he should do just that.


Honorable mention candidates

Ryan Arcidiacono, G, Villanova
Khyle Marshall, F, Butler
Kellen Dunham, F, Butler
D’Vauntes Smith-Rivera, G, Georgetown
Eugene Teague, C, Seton Hall
Chris Obekpa, C, St. John’s
Jajuan Johnson, G, Marquette
Eli Carter, G, Rutgers
Nate Lubick, F, Georgetown

Eli Carter??? Maybe at UF. Ha

“@nybuckets: .@PaintTouches Did his own take on the Way Too Early Big East teams. Definitely different: http://painttouches.com/2013/07/24/all-big-east-team-predictions-july-edition/”

Do you find it odd that Orlando Sanchez isn't on a pre season team or even honorable mention?

not really.  no one has seen him play.

Anyone going to support Hoyas? Crazy

“@ESPNAndyKatz: Hoyas, Ducks to open hoops season in Asia on Army base in South Korea: http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/9522216/hoyas-ducks-tip-hoops-season-asia”

there's turnover at the bases.  my guess is many have never seen a college game before.

Quote from: newsman13 on July 30, 2013, 03:08:32 PM

there's turnover at the bases.  my guess is many have never seen a college game before.

I don't think Moose meant as a nice thing for a few thousand troops, I think he meant as a scheduling and travel fiasco.  Like the games on the aircraft carriers that were disasters last year the novelty effect has worn off and as a statement of patriotism it's really unnecessary.

Quote from: yankcranker on July 30, 2013, 04:34:19 PM

Quote from: newsman13 on July 30, 2013, 03:08:32 PM

there's turnover at the bases.  my guess is many have never seen a college game before.

I don't think Moose meant as a nice thing for a few thousand troops, I think he meant as a scheduling and travel fiasco.  Like the games on the aircraft carriers that were disasters last year the novelty effect has worn off and as a statement of patriotism it's really unnecessary.

maybe moose is concerned about travel fiascos.  i don't know.  i think international trips are a great way to bring a team together, not to mention a great recruiting tool.  i love that we're going to europe in a few weeks.  i'll let the administration worry about travel fiascos and costs.

Quote from: newsman13 on July 31, 2013, 11:04:29 AM

Quote from: yankcranker on July 30, 2013, 04:34:19 PM

Quote from: newsman13 on July 30, 2013, 03:08:32 PM

there's turnover at the bases.  my guess is many have never seen a college game before.

I don't think Moose meant as a nice thing for a few thousand troops, I think he meant as a scheduling and travel fiasco.  Like the games on the aircraft carriers that were disasters last year the novelty effect has worn off and as a statement of patriotism it's really unnecessary.

maybe moose is concerned about travel fiascos.  i don't know.  i think international trips are a great way to bring a team together, not to mention a great recruiting tool.  i love that we're going to europe in a few weeks.  i'll let the administration worry about travel fiascos and costs.

We're talking two different things here Newsie.

I have no problem with an European excursion for the team or any school for that matter to play Euro teams and get quality practice and bonding time.

However these military games were great when its started.  Two teams on a boat surrounded by troops scenic San Diego is great.  Then they started adding like 3-4 more and most of them were utter disasters with slippery floors and bad weather.  Reminds me of NHL this year.  1 Winter Classic is great.  Fine Canada wants a Heritage game for them ok.  Now all of a sudden your adding 4 more games in a Stadium Series.  Overkill.  The joke is the Stadium Series is sponsored by Coors Light so its the Watered Down Stadium Series.

Early season non conference games are largely forgotten by the time the selection committee meets in march.  I wouldn't tell coach he should schedule them, but if he does I don't think it amounts to much either way.

I don't see that much difference in playing a quality opponent on an army base in Asia versus going to Maui or Puerto Rico and playing one quality team and one cupcake.   

All else being equal though Id rather he keep the guys on the same practice schedule, and eliminate unnecessary distractions.  That's why I think the whole not leaving NYC till January is an awesome way to open the season. (Minus South Dakota obviously). 

Quote from: desco80 on July 31, 2013, 09:04:13 PM

Early season non conference games are largely forgotten by the time the selection committee meets in march.  I wouldn't tell coach he should schedule them, but if he does I don't think it amounts to much either way.

I don't see that much difference in playing a quality opponent on an army base in Asia versus going to Maui or Puerto Rico and playing one quality team and one cupcake.   

All else being equal though Id rather he keep the guys on the same practice schedule, and eliminate unnecessary distractions.  That's why I think the whole not leaving NYC till January is an awesome way to open the season. (Minus South Dakota obviously). 

The 28+ hours flying time round trip between DC and Seoul would, more than any other road trip this year by any team, qualify as an unnecessary distraction.

Quote from: desco80 on July 31, 2013, 09:04:13 PM

Early season non conference games are largely forgotten by the time the selection committee meets in march.  I wouldn't tell coach he should schedule them, but if he does I don't think it amounts to much either way.

I don't see that much difference in playing a quality opponent on an army base in Asia versus going to Maui or Puerto Rico and playing one quality team and one cupcake.   

All else being equal though Id rather he keep the guys on the same practice schedule, and eliminate unnecessary distractions.  That's why I think the whole not leaving NYC till January is an awesome way to open the season. (Minus South Dakota obviously). 

The 28+ hours flying time round trip between DC and Seoul would, more than any other road trip this year by any team, qualify as an unnecessary distraction.