Big East could vote to dissolve

How about we add one team? The other teams that would like to join may go F themselves. More than 8 teams is completely pointless, and would prove to be a horrible example of a lesson well learned.

If we couldn't get butler and Xavier I might agree with you. Which one would you leave out?

Quote from: Poison on February 12, 2013, 12:33:36 PM

How about we add one team? The other teams that would like to join may go F themselves. More than 8 teams is completely pointless, and would prove to be a horrible example of a lesson well learned.

If we couldn't get butler and Xavier I might agree with you. Which one would you leave out?

I would like to see it at 12.  Eight is too small...almost an afterthought when compared to the 16 team megaconferences. 

1] I can understand Fox Sports not wanting UConn. Storrs is a short ride from Bristol and ESPN, Fox' top rival in sports television. And, UConn also has a regional relationship with SNY. UConn made its bed, let them lay in it.

2] The Catholic 7 + Butler is almost a given at this point. Add in Xavier, Creighton, VCU, Northeastern or Dayton and Fox will have a nice conference to sell to advertisers.

3] So far, the University presidents are showing good leadership. I believe its been stated that Father Harrington and his Georgetown counterpart are the pointmen for our new league. If they can nail down a Fox Sports contract with the numbers that are being published, thats a heck of alot better than we were doing with the previous BE commissioners

Marquette is also very much in.  My understanding is STJ and Marquette were the two at the forefront.

Quote from: Tiger on February 12, 2013, 11:20:53 AM

Northeastern brings a huge market (Boston) creates a geographic rival for Providence.  Without a Boston school, Providence is all alone in New England and too small an institution to carry the region, no matter how well their sports teams do.  I am not a hockey fan, but both Providence and Northeastern offer hockey which might add some regional interest.  All that being said, the conference would still be great without Northeastern.

Yes but no one in Boston cares about Northeastern basketball.  It's the same leap the new Big East made with Tulane and New Orleans.  I'd be disappointed if NE was in the new league

Originally I wanted a BOS area team when I wanted more teams.  However I'm comfortable with 10 because of the strong OOC schedule you can build and will go higher only if were talking a big fish like Gonzaga which is still a possibility.  Sure thing?  No.  But still possible.  Let Prov be the New England rep.

How about we add one team? The other teams that would like to join may go F themselves. More than 8 teams is completely pointless, and would prove to be a horrible example of a lesson well learned.

10 is a solid number.  Not many conferences with 8 teams man.  Add 3 teams.  Only 5 if your talking big fish.  Like Gonzaga or ND and their 'buyers remorse' as Brey alluded to.

Quote from: Poison on February 12, 2013, 12:33:36 PM

How about we add one team? The other teams that would like to join may go F themselves. More than 8 teams is completely pointless, and would prove to be a horrible example of a lesson well learned.

10 is a solid number.  Not many conferences with 8 teams man.  Add 3 teams.  Only 5 if your talking big fish.  Like Gonzaga or ND and their 'buyers remorse' as Brey alluded to.

What do you think about Gonzaga, Butler, Xavier, St. Louis, and Creighton? Or does an ND-level team need to be in there also to make you want to go to five?

I'm shocked Gonzaga hasn't been the first choice all along, regardless of distance. Having them with us makes us super big time.

Quote from: Moose on February 12, 2013, 06:20:34 PM

Quote from: Poison on February 12, 2013, 12:33:36 PM

How about we add one team? The other teams that would like to join may go F themselves. More than 8 teams is completely pointless, and would prove to be a horrible example of a lesson well learned.

10 is a solid number.  Not many conferences with 8 teams man.  Add 3 teams.  Only 5 if your talking big fish.  Like Gonzaga or ND and their 'buyers remorse' as Brey alluded to.

What do you think about Gonzaga, Butler, Xavier, St. Louis, and Creighton? Or does an ND-level team need to be in there also to make you want to go to five?

I'm shocked Gonzaga hasn't been the first choice all along, regardless of distance. Having them with us makes us super big time.

I think the C7 would gladly take Zags.  It depends on them committing to traveling for all the sports.  The east schools taking one trip out there isn't bad.  Onus is on them taking 3-4 trips east and 3 game road trips.

Not to sound like Joe3 but I really am not sold on Creighton at all.  Still would like to look into them more though.

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Quote from: Poison on February 12, 2013, 12:33:36 PM

How about we add one team? The other teams that would like to join may go F themselves. More than 8 teams is completely pointless, and would prove to be a horrible example of a lesson well learned.

10 is a solid number.  Not many conferences with 8 teams man.  Add 3 teams.  Only 5 if your talking big fish.  Like Gonzaga or ND and their 'buyers remorse' as Brey alluded to.

What do you think about Gonzaga, Butler, Xavier, St. Louis, and Creighton? Or does an ND-level team need to be in there also to make you want to go to five?

I'm shocked Gonzaga hasn't been the first choice all along, regardless of distance. Having them with us makes us super big time.

I think the C7 would gladly take Zags.  It depends on them committing to traveling for all the sports.  The east schools taking one trip out there isn't bad.  Onus is on them taking 3-4 trips east and 3 game road trips.

Not to sound like Joe3 but I really am not sold on Creighton at all.  Still would like to look into them more though.

Awesome fanbase.  They double UCLA's attendance and average more than most NBA teams.  They also have fantastic baseball and soccer (I believe we beat them for the soccer national championship) and a good law school.  I'd go with Xavier, Gonzaga, and ND over them, but they are right there with Butler IMO, and well ahead of VCU. 

A new league and now a new Pope.  Too much to keep up with.

I'm hoping they add Butler, Creighton, Xavier and stop there.  I'd only go to 12 if Gonzaga entered the conversation.

According to Cincinnati.com, Jay Wright and an assistant stopped at the Musketeers' Cintas Center before the Wildcats' game at Fifth Third Arena to play the University of Cincinnati. The purpose of the visit wasn't very clear, though the report claims he was there to "check out" the "digs" at Cintas; taking a tour of the facility.

The Villanova contingent reportedly had a quick and casual chat with some Xavier basketball staffers about the landscape of college basketball as well.

It seems that the Catholic 7 powers are starting to build their bridges to the Indianapolis-based Butler and Cincinnati-based Xavier Universities -- and they aren't being shy about it. With both schools likely to top the list of candidates for inclusion in the new league, it's time to build some connections to their academic and athletic administrations.

“@VUhoops: #Catholic7 schools are making nice with Xavier and Butler off the court -- and in public. http://sbn.to/XKW3wg”

Fox is gonna determine how many teams is in this league based on how many games they gonna broadcast.

Quote from: Moose on February 12, 2013, 08:34:23 PM

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Quote from: Moose on February 12, 2013, 06:20:34 PM

Quote from: Poison on February 12, 2013, 12:33:36 PM

How about we add one team? The other teams that would like to join may go F themselves. More than 8 teams is completely pointless, and would prove to be a horrible example of a lesson well learned.

10 is a solid number.  Not many conferences with 8 teams man.  Add 3 teams.  Only 5 if your talking big fish.  Like Gonzaga or ND and their 'buyers remorse' as Brey alluded to.

What do you think about Gonzaga, Butler, Xavier, St. Louis, and Creighton? Or does an ND-level team need to be in there also to make you want to go to five?

I'm shocked Gonzaga hasn't been the first choice all along, regardless of distance. Having them with us makes us super big time.

I think the C7 would gladly take Zags.  It depends on them committing to traveling for all the sports.  The east schools taking one trip out there isn't bad.  Onus is on them taking 3-4 trips east and 3 game road trips.

Not to sound like Joe3 but I really am not sold on Creighton at all.  Still would like to look into them more though.

Awesome fanbase.  They double UCLA's attendance and average more than most NBA teams.  They also have fantastic baseball and soccer (I believe we beat them for the soccer national championship) and a good law school.  I'd go with Xavier, Gonzaga, and ND over them, but they are right there with Butler IMO, and well ahead of VCU. 

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it's not whether the teams can travel.  can you see gonzaga's fan base at msg every year for the big east tournament?  it may be more than a bit too much.

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Quote from: Poison on February 12, 2013, 12:33:36 PM

How about we add one team? The other teams that would like to join may go F themselves. More than 8 teams is completely pointless, and would prove to be a horrible example of a lesson well learned.

If we couldn't get butler and Xavier I might agree with you. Which one would you leave out?

I would like to see it at 12.  Eight is too small...almost an afterthought when compared to the 16 team megaconferences.

I like 12 too.

Maybe 2 six team divisions, play each team in your division twice for 10 games and then the other 6 once each for a total of 16 games.

Gonzaga is in Spokane, Washington, which is on the eastern border of Washington.  Tulane is closer to Chicago than Gonzaga, so even an east division and a west division makes for travel nightmares.  Gonzaga is a relatively small school...roughly the enrolment of Seton Hall. Spokane's population is relatively small at 400,000, so the media 'bang' is not there.

Yesterday there was some discussion about Umass.  It seems Umass is trying to follow the Uconn formula...growing the Umass brand through their sports program.  Football games in Foxboro?  Soliciting Umass, seems like it will lead to a another Uconn situation.  I also don't see the benefit of having one public university mixed in with a bunch of private/religious schools.  I would rather have another school like VCU or another Connecticut or Mass school.

Gonzaga is in Spokane, Washington, which is on the eastern border of Washington.  Tulane is closer to Chicago than Gonzaga, so even an east division and a west division makes for travel nightmares.  Gonzaga is a relatively small school...roughly the enrolment of Seton Hall. Spokane's population is relatively small at 400,000, so the media 'bang' is not there.

Yesterday there was some discussion about Umass.  It seems Umass is trying to follow the Uconn formula...growing the Umass brand through their sports program.  Football games in Foxboro?  Soliciting Umass, seems like it will lead to a another Uconn situation.  I also don't see the benefit of having one public university mixed in with a bunch of private/religious schools.  I would rather have another school like VCU or another Connecticut or Mass school.

Didn't realize how far Gonzaga is from Seattle.  They play some game(s) there each year, no?

Invite Gonzaga let them make the choice if they want to join.  The rest of the league will play Marquette and then Gonzaga so they can go to one and then the other.  I think that the Zags would probably not accept the invite due financial reasons unless the media contract covers the extra expenses

Quote from: Tiger on February 13, 2013, 02:49:01 PM

Gonzaga is in Spokane, Washington, which is on the eastern border of Washington.  Tulane is closer to Chicago than Gonzaga, so even an east division and a west division makes for travel nightmares.  Gonzaga is a relatively small school...roughly the enrolment of Seton Hall. Spokane's population is relatively small at 400,000, so the media 'bang' is not there.

Yesterday there was some discussion about Umass.  It seems Umass is trying to follow the Uconn formula...growing the Umass brand through their sports program.  Football games in Foxboro?  Soliciting Umass, seems like it will lead to a another Uconn situation.  I also don't see the benefit of having one public university mixed in with a bunch of private/religious schools.  I would rather have another school like VCU or another Connecticut or Mass school.

Didn't realize how far Gonzaga is from Seattle.  They play some game(s) there each year, no?

Correct, they play one game a year, dubbed "the battle in Seattle" at key arena. Used to schedule really good high major teams, until they lost a bunch in a row. Was at the uconn game a few years back, great game.

Bring them in, then my johnnies can play a game in the great nw! No more travelling to see the boys

Quote from: Tiger on February 13, 2013, 02:49:01 PM

Gonzaga is in Spokane, Washington, which is on the eastern border of Washington.  Tulane is closer to Chicago than Gonzaga, so even an east division and a west division makes for travel nightmares.  Gonzaga is a relatively small school...roughly the enrolment of Seton Hall. Spokane's population is relatively small at 400,000, so the media 'bang' is not there.

Yesterday there was some discussion about Umass.  It seems Umass is trying to follow the Uconn formula...growing the Umass brand through their sports program.  Football games in Foxboro?  Soliciting Umass, seems like it will lead to a another Uconn situation.  I also don't see the benefit of having one public university mixed in with a bunch of private/religious schools.  I would rather have another school like VCU or another Connecticut or Mass school.

Didn't realize how far Gonzaga is from Seattle.  They play some game(s) there each year, no?

Really far drive (6 hours I believe) and geographically so much different than each other.

Shows how pathetic the new BE is

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/ap-source-big-east-moving-015446471--ncaaf.html