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Re: 2013 Bracketology Watch Thread
« Reply #80 on: February 19, 2013, 03:15:44 PM »
The NCAA tournament bid is earned, not handed out. Win the home games, like an NCAA tourney-bound team would. Beat South Florida tomorrow night. Beat Pitt on Sunday. Hopefully beat Providence next week. Hopefully beat Notre Dame, you don't know which team you'll meet with them. Beat Marquette at home, in the Garden.

Act like an NCAA tournament team and beat the teams you have to beat.
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Re: 2013 Bracketology Watch Thread
« Reply #81 on: February 19, 2013, 03:31:11 PM »
You don't make up for your losses in church.
You do it in the locker room. You do it on the court.
The rest is bullship and you know it.
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Re: 2013 Bracketology Watch Thread
« Reply #82 on: February 19, 2013, 06:21:28 PM »
Quote from: braintrust on February 19, 2013, 03:15:44 PM
The NCAA tournament bid is earned, not handed out. Win the home games, like an NCAA tourney-bound team would. Beat South Florida tomorrow night. Beat Pitt on Sunday. Hopefully beat Providence next week. Hopefully beat Notre Dame, you don't know which team you'll meet with them. Beat Marquette at home, in the Garden.

Act like an NCAA tournament team and beat the teams you have to beat.
Well said, Big and Small beat em all. I would have full confidence in coach Steve having the guys ready for this run, but a couple of hard to get over things have come up last couple of weeks. Maybe the guys get through it anyway. Go Storm.
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« Reply #83 on: February 19, 2013, 07:16:26 PM »
Just keep winning.  Lots of winnable games.  First one USF.  We also have 2 big games at home.  take care of business. 
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Re: 2013 Bracketology Watch Thread
« Reply #84 on: February 19, 2013, 08:26:16 PM »
I think someone asked for this and the game notes break it down-

NCAA Bubble Watch: BIG EAST By The Numbers
• In assessing the young Red Storm’s NCAA Tournament chances, the following is a breakdown of success by total wins for BIG EAST teams (following the BIG EAST Tournament) since the first year of the league’s automatic bid (1982-83).
   • 17 overall wins — 167 of 209 teams reached the NCAA (79.9 percent)
   • 18 overall wins — 161 of 189 (85.2 percent)
   • 19 overall wins — 145 of 160 (90.6 percent)
   • 20 overall wins — 147 of 152 (96.7percent )
• In 2011-12, nine of 11 BIG EAST teams with at least 17 wins after the BIG EAST Tournament reached the NCAA Tournament, with only Pitt and Seton Hall failing to qualify. Eight of the nine 20-win teams made it (Seton Hall missed).
• Taking a look at conference win totals, only two teams since the 2005-06 BIG EAST expansion — and eight in league history — failed to be selected for the NCAA Tournament after mounting a 10-win campaign. Pitt in 1996-97, Providence in 2008-09 and Villanova in 1993-94 were all NIT teams after going 10-8 in league play.
• Seton Hall in 2002-03 and Syracuse in 2001-02 and 2006-07 both were in the NIT after posting a 10-6 conference record.
• Villanova in 1991-92 and West Virginia in 1996-97 were NIT teams after going 11-7.
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Re: 2013 Bracketology Watch Thread
« Reply #85 on: February 19, 2013, 08:29:47 PM »
Quote from: MCNPA on February 19, 2013, 07:16:26 PM
Just keep winning.  Lots of winnable games.  First one USF.  We also have 2 big games at home.  take care of business. 

We need to change the course of our season tomorrow. I'm counting on a good old fashioned blow out. Perhaps we should ask Norm Roberts for a little help with our game
plan?
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Re: 2013 Bracketology Watch Thread
« Reply #86 on: February 19, 2013, 09:23:08 PM »
 I'd just as well keep Norm out of the equation tomorrow.. thank you very much..

I'm holding out hope for a miraculous 4-1 finish down the stretch.  Saving our best ball for last.

off subject- Victor Oladipo. ranked #144 in his class and #53 at his position coming out of HS.  These are the type of kids that elevate programs to the upper echelon.  We need to find a few diamonds in the rough.  Maybe we have one and just don't know it yet?
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« Reply #87 on: February 19, 2013, 09:24:57 PM »
Quote from: boo3 on February 19, 2013, 09:23:08 PM
I'd just as well keep Norm out of the equation tomorrow.. thank you very much..

I'm holding out hope for a miraculous 4-1 finish down the stretch.  Saving our best ball for last.

off subject- Victor Oladipo. ranked #144 in his class and #53 at his position coming out of HS.  These are the type of kids that elevate programs to the upper echelon.  We need to find a few diamonds in the rough.  Maybe we have one and just don't know it yet?

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Re: 2013 Bracketology Watch Thread
« Reply #88 on: February 21, 2013, 09:11:12 PM »
Joe Lunardi ‏@ESPNLunardi
FOUR IN: Baylor, Ole Miss, Temple, Villanova. FOUR OUT: Kentucky, Cal, St. John's, Southern Miss.

3rd out, Cal playing at Oregon right now
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Re: 2013 Bracketology Watch Thread
« Reply #89 on: February 21, 2013, 09:25:25 PM »
Cincy about to go to 7-7. Plenty of time left for them to choke up a tourny bid everyone figured they had. We can finish 2 games ahead of them in conference and beat'em at their place. They might figure thats the loss that did them in, but they still had plenty of time to play themselves in and still do. Go Storm.  Maybe we get that bid. This is great, if we win games. Their game over, Mick gonna go nuts. Why Jermaine, why?
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Re: 2013 Bracketology Watch Thread
« Reply #90 on: February 21, 2013, 09:46:09 PM »
Quote from: jr49 on February 21, 2013, 09:25:25 PM
Cincy about to go to 7-7. Plenty of time left for them to choke up a tourny bid everyone figured they had. We can finish 2 games ahead of them in conference and beat'em at their place. They might figure thats the loss that did them in, but they still had plenty of time to play themselves in and still do. Go Storm.  Maybe we get that bid. This is great, if we win games. Their game over, Mick gonna go nuts. Why Jermaine, why?

Hate to say it, but I think Cinci is in with just a win over USF and a win in the first round of th BET.  That would put them at 21-12 with a much better non conference resume than us. 

However, lose the next 4 which would include a terrible loss to USF and finish the BE 1-8 over their last 9 and they could be in trouble! 
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« Reply #91 on: February 21, 2013, 10:01:56 PM »
Baylor has 3 huge games left on sched. At okla on sat and then home vs Ksu and Ku to end season. Got to hope we keep winning and a team like that, nova and California lose. Ole miss had a terrible loss vs south car last night but they have some really good wins ooc.
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« Reply #92 on: February 21, 2013, 11:12:46 PM »
Damn we didn't get any help tonight. Both Arkansas and California got wins on last possession shots. We just gotta keep winning
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Re: 2013 Bracketology Watch Thread
« Reply #93 on: February 22, 2013, 01:34:49 AM »
Updated:

Joe Lunardi ‏@ESPNLunardi
FOUR IN: Cal, Baylor, Ole Miss, Temple. FOUR OUT: Kentucky, Villanova, St. John's, Southern Miss.
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Tha Kid

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Re: 2013 Bracketology Watch Thread
« Reply #94 on: February 22, 2013, 08:56:37 AM »
Quote from: Moose on February 19, 2013, 08:26:16 PM
I think someone asked for this and the game notes break it down-

NCAA Bubble Watch: BIG EAST By The Numbers
• In assessing the young Red Storm’s NCAA Tournament chances, the following is a breakdown of success by total wins for BIG EAST teams (following the BIG EAST Tournament) since the first year of the league’s automatic bid (1982-83).
   • 17 overall wins — 167 of 209 teams reached the NCAA (79.9 percent)
   • 18 overall wins — 161 of 189 (85.2 percent)
   • 19 overall wins — 145 of 160 (90.6 percent)
   • 20 overall wins — 147 of 152 (96.7percent )
• In 2011-12, nine of 11 BIG EAST teams with at least 17 wins after the BIG EAST Tournament reached the NCAA Tournament, with only Pitt and Seton Hall failing to qualify. Eight of the nine 20-win teams made it (Seton Hall missed).
• Taking a look at conference win totals, only two teams since the 2005-06 BIG EAST expansion — and eight in league history — failed to be selected for the NCAA Tournament after mounting a 10-win campaign. Pitt in 1996-97, Providence in 2008-09 and Villanova in 1993-94 were all NIT teams after going 10-8 in league play.
• Seton Hall in 2002-03 and Syracuse in 2001-02 and 2006-07 both were in the NIT after posting a 10-6 conference record.
• Villanova in 1991-92 and West Virginia in 1996-97 were NIT teams after going 11-7.

Doing the math that means 6/20 17 win teams made it, 16/29 18 win teams made it.   Can't do the 19 win figure because your 20 win figure is wrong.   Has to be less teams with 20+ getting in than 19+.

Unless this means teams with exactly the number of wins which is highly unlikely because that would come out to 7 teams a year with 17, 6 teams a year with 18, 5 teams a year with 19, 5 teams a year with 20.  As you see it's a Mathematical impossibility.
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Re: 2013 Bracketology Watch Thread
« Reply #95 on: February 22, 2013, 09:12:39 AM »
Quote from: Tha Kid on February 22, 2013, 08:56:37 AM
Quote from: Moose on February 19, 2013, 08:26:16 PM
I think someone asked for this and the game notes break it down-

NCAA Bubble Watch: BIG EAST By The Numbers
• In assessing the young Red Storm’s NCAA Tournament chances, the following is a breakdown of success by total wins for BIG EAST teams (following the BIG EAST Tournament) since the first year of the league’s automatic bid (1982-83).
   • 17 overall wins — 167 of 209 teams reached the NCAA (79.9 percent)
   • 18 overall wins — 161 of 189 (85.2 percent)
   • 19 overall wins — 145 of 160 (90.6 percent)
   • 20 overall wins — 147 of 152 (96.7percent )
• In 2011-12, nine of 11 BIG EAST teams with at least 17 wins after the BIG EAST Tournament reached the NCAA Tournament, with only Pitt and Seton Hall failing to qualify. Eight of the nine 20-win teams made it (Seton Hall missed).
• Taking a look at conference win totals, only two teams since the 2005-06 BIG EAST expansion — and eight in league history — failed to be selected for the NCAA Tournament after mounting a 10-win campaign. Pitt in 1996-97, Providence in 2008-09 and Villanova in 1993-94 were all NIT teams after going 10-8 in league play.
• Seton Hall in 2002-03 and Syracuse in 2001-02 and 2006-07 both were in the NIT after posting a 10-6 conference record.
• Villanova in 1991-92 and West Virginia in 1996-97 were NIT teams after going 11-7.

Doing the math that means 6/20 17 win teams made it, 16/29 18 win teams made it.   Can't do the 19 win figure because your 20 win figure is wrong.   Has to be less teams with 20+ getting in than 19+.

Unless this means teams with exactly the number of wins which is highly unlikely because that would come out to 7 teams a year with 17, 6 teams a year with 18, 5 teams a year with 19, 5 teams a year with 20.  As you see it's a Mathematical impossibility.


Not my figure. This was from STJ game notes and in collaboration with the Big East.
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Re: 2013 Bracketology Watch Thread
« Reply #96 on: February 22, 2013, 09:27:16 AM »
Anything less than 11-7 and 19-11 going into BET would make me very nervous that we were NIT bound. In addition, I would be nervous if we didn't have 20 wins after being eliminated in the BET.

I think winning two BET games this year will be tough as we likely will get no easy game unless we finish in top 6 I believe.

We are pretty much even with Pitt in the standings in conference. Marquette will be difficult even at home. ND is tough to sweep. Providence has played a lot better and they have experience despite a thin roster.

Time for our squad to buckle up and play their best basketball of the year or else they will be disappointed. 
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Re: 2013 Bracketology Watch Thread
« Reply #97 on: February 22, 2013, 09:41:53 AM »
Quote from: Moose on February 22, 2013, 09:12:39 AM
Quote from: Tha Kid on February 22, 2013, 08:56:37 AM
Quote from: Moose on February 19, 2013, 08:26:16 PM
I think someone asked for this and the game notes break it down-

NCAA Bubble Watch: BIG EAST By The Numbers
• In assessing the young Red Storm’s NCAA Tournament chances, the following is a breakdown of success by total wins for BIG EAST teams (following the BIG EAST Tournament) since the first year of the league’s automatic bid (1982-83).
   • 17 overall wins — 167 of 209 teams reached the NCAA (79.9 percent)
   • 18 overall wins — 161 of 189 (85.2 percent)
   • 19 overall wins — 145 of 160 (90.6 percent)
   • 20 overall wins — 147 of 152 (96.7percent )
• In 2011-12, nine of 11 BIG EAST teams with at least 17 wins after the BIG EAST Tournament reached the NCAA Tournament, with only Pitt and Seton Hall failing to qualify. Eight of the nine 20-win teams made it (Seton Hall missed).
• Taking a look at conference win totals, only two teams since the 2005-06 BIG EAST expansion — and eight in league history — failed to be selected for the NCAA Tournament after mounting a 10-win campaign. Pitt in 1996-97, Providence in 2008-09 and Villanova in 1993-94 were all NIT teams after going 10-8 in league play.
• Seton Hall in 2002-03 and Syracuse in 2001-02 and 2006-07 both were in the NIT after posting a 10-6 conference record.
• Villanova in 1991-92 and West Virginia in 1996-97 were NIT teams after going 11-7.

Doing the math that means 6/20 17 win teams made it, 16/29 18 win teams made it.   Can't do the 19 win figure because your 20 win figure is wrong.   Has to be less teams with 20+ getting in than 19+.

Unless this means teams with exactly the number of wins which is highly unlikely because that would come out to 7 teams a year with 17, 6 teams a year with 18, 5 teams a year with 19, 5 teams a year with 20.  As you see it's a Mathematical impossibility.


Not my figure. This was from STJ game notes and in collaboration with the Big East.

Seems like they botched at least the 20 win number.
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Re: 2013 Bracketology Watch Thread
« Reply #98 on: February 22, 2013, 10:46:42 AM »
Fair assessment of Nova chances;

At 17-10 currently, Villanova needs to win just two more games to get to 19 wins and just three more to cross over to the 20-win mark. KenPom.com's statistical models predict Villanova reaching either 18 or 19 wins before the Big East tournament, but only the Seton Hall game is given a high likelihood of victory (though their chances of winning at home over both Marquette and Georgetown was given a percentage in the high-40s).

If Villanova closes the regular season with 10 Big East wins and a 19-win resume, they may still have some work to do in the Big East tournament, but perhaps only a game or two would be needed.

Nova hasn't won the Big East tournament since Steve Lappas was coaching, and have never won it before that time, so that avenue of securing a bid would seem to be unlikely.

So what are the odds? Though one projection puts the 'Cats at just 15% to get in, some bracketologists are still toying with the idea.

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Re: 2013 Bracketology Watch Thread
« Reply #99 on: February 22, 2013, 11:04:10 AM »
Quote from: Tha Kid on February 22, 2013, 08:56:37 AM
Quote from: Moose on February 19, 2013, 08:26:16 PM
I think someone asked for this and the game notes break it down-

NCAA Bubble Watch: BIG EAST By The Numbers
• In assessing the young Red Storm’s NCAA Tournament chances, the following is a breakdown of success by total wins for BIG EAST teams (following the BIG EAST Tournament) since the first year of the league’s automatic bid (1982-83).
   • 17 overall wins — 167 of 209 teams reached the NCAA (79.9 percent)
   • 18 overall wins — 161 of 189 (85.2 percent)
   • 19 overall wins — 145 of 160 (90.6 percent)
   • 20 overall wins — 147 of 152 (96.7percent )
• In 2011-12, nine of 11 BIG EAST teams with at least 17 wins after the BIG EAST Tournament reached the NCAA Tournament, with only Pitt and Seton Hall failing to qualify. Eight of the nine 20-win teams made it (Seton Hall missed).
• Taking a look at conference win totals, only two teams since the 2005-06 BIG EAST expansion — and eight in league history — failed to be selected for the NCAA Tournament after mounting a 10-win campaign. Pitt in 1996-97, Providence in 2008-09 and Villanova in 1993-94 were all NIT teams after going 10-8 in league play.
• Seton Hall in 2002-03 and Syracuse in 2001-02 and 2006-07 both were in the NIT after posting a 10-6 conference record.
• Villanova in 1991-92 and West Virginia in 1996-97 were NIT teams after going 11-7.

Doing the math that means 6/20 17 win teams made it, 16/29 18 win teams made it.   Can't do the 19 win figure because your 20 win figure is wrong.   Has to be less teams with 20+ getting in than 19+.

Unless this means teams with exactly the number of wins which is highly unlikely because that would come out to 7 teams a year with 17, 6 teams a year with 18, 5 teams a year with 19, 5 teams a year with 20.  As you see it's a Mathematical impossibility.


Kid where are you getting those ratios?
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