Jordan Suspension

Quote from: redmen4life on November 23, 2013, 11:59:46 PM

Zach from NY post responding to question regarding news on Jordan:

@NYPost_Brazille: @rcava not good and I will

I spoke w Zach yesterday evening  & he suggested that,although Rysheed was home, not to draw any conclusions. Let's remain positive.

I believe the issue is playing time.

Quote from: we are sju on November 24, 2013, 08:49:15 AM

Being better off than we were under Norm should not be considered an accomplishment. For me personally, if Jordan transfers and we don't make the tourney I'd fire Lavin. Won't happen and probably not even the right choice, but it is what I'd do. Then I'd hire a sound basketball coach (McKillop) who recruits kids that fit his style of play. Again I am not saying this SHOULD be done. But it is what I would do.

Surprised you didn't predict Jordan transferring to Baylor ala your Harrison take. 

If I were Harrison I would have transferred. Then I made it a joke to tweak posters who bashed him for 2 years.
Jordan thing is 100% on Lavin. Widely ridiculous comparisons to HOFers, followed by kid predictably struggling. Playing time gets cut, now he is suspended?  Wasn't most of pre season optimism centered around Jordan?

Most of you are like a bunch of sheep. You got all caught up in Lavin's recruiting. Yeah well it seems to me that at least half of his big recruits, either never made it here or are gone. But whenever anyone leaves it is always the kid wasn't any good anyway or it is the 18 year old kids fault. If we can't trust Lavin's recruiting and ability to keep kids, well then there is not much left to him but a bunch of goofy sayings.

Quote from: paultzman on November 24, 2013, 09:12:33 AM

Quote from: redmen4life on November 23, 2013, 11:59:46 PM

Zach from NY post responding to question regarding news on Jordan:

@NYPost_Brazille: @rcava not good and I will

I spoke w Zach yesterday evening  & he suggested that,although Rysheed was home, not to draw any conclusions. Let's remain positive.

I believe the issue is playing time.

If that really is the issue, then he's being very immature.  Did he really expect Lavin to take Phil in the Bucknell game?  The kid literally saved the team from an embarrassing loss.  Part of being on a team is understanding your role.  There is little doubt that Jordan is the best PG on this team and will get the majority of the minutes this season.  But when a player gets hot, like Phil did that game, you leave him on the court.

Quote from: paultzman on November 24, 2013, 09:12:33 AM

Quote from: redmen4life on November 23, 2013, 11:59:46 PM

Zach from NY post responding to question regarding news on Jordan:

@NYPost_Brazille: @rcava not good and I will

I spoke w Zach yesterday evening  & he suggested that,although Rysheed was home, not to draw any conclusions. Let's remain positive.

I believe the issue is playing time.

If you were "better than Baron Davis", and yet you were also benched, wouldn't that confuse you?

Being better off than we were under Norm should not be considered an accomplishment. For me personally, if Jordan transfers and we don't make the tourney I'd fire Lavin. Won't happen and probably not even the right choice, but it is what I'd do. Then I'd hire a sound basketball coach (McKillop) who recruits kids that fit his style of play. Again I am not saying this SHOULD be done. But it is what I would do.

You are insane.  That is all.

Quote from: we are sju on November 24, 2013, 08:49:15 AM

Being better off than we were under Norm should not be considered an accomplishment. For me personally, if Jordan transfers and we don't make the tourney I'd fire Lavin. Won't happen and probably not even the right choice, but it is what I'd do. Then I'd hire a sound basketball coach (McKillop) who recruits kids that fit his style of play. Again I am not saying this SHOULD be done. But it is what I would do.

You are insane.  That is all.

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Quote from: paultzman on November 24, 2013, 09:12:33 AM

Quote from: redmen4life on November 23, 2013, 11:59:46 PM

Zach from NY post responding to question regarding news on Jordan:

@NYPost_Brazille: @rcava not good and I will

I spoke w Zach yesterday evening  & he suggested that,although Rysheed was home, not to draw any conclusions. Let's remain positive.

I believe the issue is playing time.

Obvisouly dont know what happened with respect to the rule violation but can't blame him for not being happy about sitting out 2nd half..He was playing pretty well (3-6 on FGs, 2 assists), is an integral part of the team and an absolute key to future on court & recruiting success..

So, unless the kid is stinking it up I think you have to find a way to get him PT...we need him...

That said, if the rule violation was in response to the PT issue, kid is wrong

Quote from: we are sju on November 24, 2013, 08:49:15 AM

Being better off than we were under Norm should not be considered an accomplishment. For me personally, if Jordan transfers and we don't make the tourney I'd fire Lavin. Won't happen and probably not even the right choice, but it is what I'd do. Then I'd hire a sound basketball coach (McKillop) who recruits kids that fit his style of play. Again I am not saying this SHOULD be done. But it is what I would do.

You are insane.  That is all.

Nope, if we don't make tourney this year Lavin has been a failure.

I'm pretty sure he has been going home every weekend.

Also, Rysheed has been on Instagram since the season started while the other players have not. While I'm not sure I think that deserves a suspension (maybe Lav warned him) but I'm hoping it's something as small as this.

I'm pretty sure he has been going home every weekend.

Also, Rysheed has been on Instagram since the season started while the other players have not. While I'm not sure I think that deserves a suspension (maybe Lav warned him) but I'm hoping it's something as small as this.

If Lavin suspended him for using Instagram, I would be concerned that coach has a screw loose.

I'm pretty sure he has been going home every weekend.

Also, Rysheed has been on Instagram since the season started while the other players have not. While I'm not sure I think that deserves a suspension (maybe Lav warned him) but I'm hoping it's something as small as this.

Other players are using it too.  I don't think Instagram is the issue.

Just for the record players under Lavin and the boards reactions
Polee-he wasn't that good, we didn't need him even though the next year's team had only 6 guys
Sampson, Pelle, Garrett-all not eligible to start season. You have to take chances to get talent-I actually agree with this one.
Lindsey-transfers. He was a punk and a bum. Good riddance
Stith-quits team mid season. He stinks, didn't need him. Again having only 6 players is a problem.
Harrison-Suspended. He is a punk Father Lavin showing tough love
Garrett-Transfers. Didn't need him.
Baron Jason Gary Jordan-Suspended. Outcome and reaction TBA

So far Lavin's regime most closely resembles Brian Mahoney more than Louie.

Quote from: Amaseinyourface2 on November 24, 2013, 11:34:10 AM

I'm pretty sure he has been going home every weekend.

Also, Rysheed has been on Instagram since the season started while the other players have not. While I'm not sure I think that deserves a suspension (maybe Lav warned him) but I'm hoping it's something as small as this.

Other players are using it too.  I don't think Instagram is the issue.

Using or posting moose?

All those guys chose to leave..... except Garrett.   In my mind that's been the worst move of the Lavin era.   By far. 
And not enough is made of it.    Amir deserved to be on this team until he graduated, or left on his own.

Garret was asked to leave?

Quote from: Moose on November 24, 2013, 11:53:49 AM

Quote from: Amaseinyourface2 on November 24, 2013, 11:34:10 AM

I'm pretty sure he has been going home every weekend.

Also, Rysheed has been on Instagram since the season started while the other players have not. While I'm not sure I think that deserves a suspension (maybe Lav warned him) but I'm hoping it's something as small as this.

Other players are using it too.  I don't think Instagram is the issue.

Using or posting moose?

I know they are active, thats all

#PhillyProblems

All those guys chose to leave......

And then the obvious question, why?

All those guys chose to leave..... except Garrett.   In my mind that's been the worst move of the Lavin era.   By far. 
And not enough is made of it.    Amir deserved to be on this team until he graduated, or left on his own.

Where would Amir's minutes be this year?

Quote from: desco80 on November 24, 2013, 12:09:46 PM

All those guys chose to leave..... except Garrett.   In my mind that's been the worst move of the Lavin era.   By far. 
And not enough is made of it.    Amir deserved to be on this team until he graduated, or left on his own.

Where would Amir's minutes be this year?

Not the point Dave. All those guys were lauded here as part of Lavin's big time recruiting. If they didn't pan out FOR WHATEVER REASON on Lavin, no?