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Marco Baldi

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« Reply #280 on: April 02, 2016, 10:39:48 PM »
Malachi Richardson is a steal. Should go top 5
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« Reply #281 on: April 02, 2016, 10:41:38 PM »
Top 5 of what?
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« Reply #282 on: April 02, 2016, 10:43:45 PM »
Cuse tiring out at the end due to comeback and short bench. Can really see players slowing down especially Cooney trying to get back on D.
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« Reply #283 on: April 02, 2016, 10:45:34 PM »
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« Reply #284 on: April 02, 2016, 11:05:46 PM »
This has the potential to be a tremendous game Monday night.

You have not only two great teams on paper in terms of talent and coaching but clearly the two most impressive teams in terms of performance so far in the Tourney.

You don't always get that in this Tourney.  Sometimes you get 1 or the other but you rarely get a combo of both.
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Marco Baldi

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« Reply #285 on: April 02, 2016, 11:17:42 PM »
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« Reply #286 on: April 02, 2016, 11:37:17 PM »
Quote from: Marco Baldi on April 02, 2016, 11:17:42 PM
Quote from: Moose on April 02, 2016, 10:45:34 PM
Quote from: boo3 on April 02, 2016, 10:41:38 PM
Top 5 of what?

Which is why you are not on an NBA payroll as a scout.

Hairdos?

I take him before Dunn, Ingram and Murray
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Marco Baldi

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Re: Ncaa tourney
« Reply #287 on: April 02, 2016, 11:46:29 PM »
And you are?
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« Reply #288 on: April 02, 2016, 11:46:48 PM »
Quote from: Marco Baldi on April 02, 2016, 11:17:42 PM
Quote from: Moose on April 02, 2016, 10:45:34 PM
Quote from: boo3 on April 02, 2016, 10:41:38 PM
Top 5 of what?

Hairdos?

I take him before Dunn, Ingram and Murray

This would be you if you were in charge of an NBA team and actually did that. Skip to 1:06

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HobAT82cyc
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Marco Baldi

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« Reply #289 on: April 02, 2016, 11:58:11 PM »
Time will tell.

Murray overrated, Dunn hit his ceiling and is years older, Ingram is 6'9-Thats what he has going for him. I think he has a better future  than Hield also
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boo3

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« Reply #290 on: April 02, 2016, 11:59:25 PM »
Disagree , a lot.   Bold call though.
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« Reply #291 on: April 03, 2016, 12:16:41 AM »
Quote from: Marco Baldi on April 02, 2016, 11:58:11 PM
Time will tell.

Murray overrated, Dunn hit his ceiling and is years older, Ingram is 6'9-Thats what he has going for him. I think he has a better future  than Hield also

Can understand why some wouldn't be high on Dunn or Hield but Richardson has shown almost nothing this year that would even have him in the conversation as any of those guys. Per KenPom, he was not in the top 500 in any single category aside from minutes played. That is extremely hard to do. He shot less than 40% from 2pt range all season, is not a particularly good passer and is not a particularly good rebounder.

Murray is far from overrated. He (as a freshman, same as Richardson) and Ulis carried the UK team the entire season as Briscoe was average at best and their frontcourt was a major disappointment.

Ingram, also a freshman, carried Duke along with Allen when they really had no other consistent players once Jefferson got hurt. Ingram has more than being 6-9 going for him. He can shoot the lights out, score off the dribble, handle, pass and rebound. He will be 100x the pro Richardson will be.

Can't just make projections on guys based on watching them for only 2 weeks of the season
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Marco Baldi

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« Reply #292 on: April 03, 2016, 12:29:41 AM »
Quote from: goredmen on April 03, 2016, 12:16:41 AM
Quote from: Marco Baldi on April 02, 2016, 11:58:11 PM
Time will tell.

Murray overrated, Dunn hit his ceiling and is years older, Ingram is 6'9-Thats what he has going for him. I think he has a better future  than Hield also

Can understand why some wouldn't be high on Dunn or Hield but Richardson has shown almost nothing this year that would even have him in the conversation as any of those guys. Per KenPom, he was not in the top 500 in any single category aside from minutes played. That is extremely hard to do. He shot less than 40% from 2pt range all season, is not a particularly good passer and is not a particularly good rebounder.

Murray is far from overrated. He (as a freshman, same as Richardson) and Ulis carried the UK team the entire season as Briscoe was average at best and their frontcourt was a major disappointment.

Ingram, also a freshman, carried Duke along with Allen when they really had no other consistent players once Jefferson got hurt. Ingram has more than being 6-9 going for him. He can shoot the lights out, score off the dribble, handle, pass and rebound. He will be 100x the pro Richardson will be.

Can't just make projections on guys based on watching them for only 2 weeks of the season

How did those guys fair the last 2 weeks against top competition. They disappeared. Hield was ok, but got owned when he needed to be the man

I can make any projections I like. It's my opinion, not asking you to agree

The so called experts have Diallo going in the first round. What are they basing that on?

How many college games did Kyrie Irving play, and how did they project him?

It's all upside, I like Richardsons better than the other.
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« Reply #293 on: April 03, 2016, 12:32:54 AM »
I think Richardson would be one of those guys that is drafted based on what they think he'll develop into. I personally love it when an NBA team drafts a freshman like that and it bombs. Wait your f'ing turn. I'd take Kris Dunn over him, and Hield. He played a brilliant 20 minutes against UVA, but is that really enough to make him an NBA player? I don't think he does anything at an NBA level right now, except maybe that stupid haircut.
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« Reply #294 on: April 03, 2016, 12:37:46 AM »
Quote from: Marco Baldi on April 03, 2016, 12:29:41 AM
Quote from: goredmen on April 03, 2016, 12:16:41 AM
Quote from: Marco Baldi on April 02, 2016, 11:58:11 PM
Time will tell.

Murray overrated, Dunn hit his ceiling and is years older, Ingram is 6'9-Thats what he has going for him. I think he has a better future  than Hield also

Can understand why some wouldn't be high on Dunn or Hield but Richardson has shown almost nothing this year that would even have him in the conversation as any of those guys. Per KenPom, he was not in the top 500 in any single category aside from minutes played. That is extremely hard to do. He shot less than 40% from 2pt range all season, is not a particularly good passer and is not a particularly good rebounder.

Murray is far from overrated. He (as a freshman, same as Richardson) and Ulis carried the UK team the entire season as Briscoe was average at best and their frontcourt was a major disappointment.

Ingram, also a freshman, carried Duke along with Allen when they really had no other consistent players once Jefferson got hurt. Ingram has more than being 6-9 going for him. He can shoot the lights out, score off the dribble, handle, pass and rebound. He will be 100x the pro Richardson will be.

Can't just make projections on guys based on watching them for only 2 weeks of the season

How did those guys fair the last 2 weeks against top competition. They disappeared. Hield was ok, but got owned when he needed to be the man

I can make any projections I like. It's my opinion, not asking you to agree

The so called experts have Diallo going in the first round. What are they basing that on?

How many college games did Kyrie Irving play, and how did they project him?

It's all upside, I like Richardsons better than the other.

You're not wrong in that he will be considered. He could go that high. There are always players who come on strong before the draft and move up. Harkless did it. Was he a great pick? F no, but this ain't about becoming great. It's just about making an NBA team think you will be.

Everyone is looking for the next Chris Bosh.
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Marco Baldi

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Re: Ncaa tourney
« Reply #295 on: April 03, 2016, 12:43:25 AM »
Quote from: Poison on April 03, 2016, 12:37:46 AM
Quote from: Marco Baldi on April 03, 2016, 12:29:41 AM
Quote from: goredmen on April 03, 2016, 12:16:41 AM
Quote from: Marco Baldi on April 02, 2016, 11:58:11 PM
Time will tell.

Murray overrated, Dunn hit his ceiling and is years older, Ingram is 6'9-Thats what he has going for him. I think he has a better future  than Hield also

Can understand why some wouldn't be high on Dunn or Hield but Richardson has shown almost nothing this year that would even have him in the conversation as any of those guys. Per KenPom, he was not in the top 500 in any single category aside from minutes played. That is extremely hard to do. He shot less than 40% from 2pt range all season, is not a particularly good passer and is not a particularly good rebounder.

Murray is far from overrated. He (as a freshman, same as Richardson) and Ulis carried the UK team the entire season as Briscoe was average at best and their frontcourt was a major disappointment.

Ingram, also a freshman, carried Duke along with Allen when they really had no other consistent players once Jefferson got hurt. Ingram has more than being 6-9 going for him. He can shoot the lights out, score off the dribble, handle, pass and rebound. He will be 100x the pro Richardson will be.

Can't just make projections on guys based on watching them for only 2 weeks of the season

How did those guys fair the last 2 weeks against top competition. They disappeared. Hield was ok, but got owned when he needed to be the man

I can make any projections I like. It's my opinion, not asking you to agree

The so called experts have Diallo going in the first round. What are they basing that on?

How many college games did Kyrie Irving play, and how did they project him?

It's all upside, I like Richardsons better than the other.

You're not wrong in that he will be considered. He could go that high. There are always players who come on strong before the draft and move up. Harkless did it. Was he a great pick? F no, but this ain't about becoming great. It's just about making an NBA team think you will be.

Everyone is looking for the next Chris Bosh.

Exactly. NBA drafts on athleticism, health and potential. 

Also I think Brice Johnson and Sabonis are great picks. Stock rising
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Re: Ncaa tourney
« Reply #296 on: April 03, 2016, 01:45:11 AM »
Quote from: Marco Baldi on April 02, 2016, 11:17:42 PM
Quote from: Moose on April 02, 2016, 10:45:34 PM
Quote from: boo3 on April 02, 2016, 10:41:38 PM
Top 5 of what?

Hairdos?

I take him before Dunn, Ingram and Murray

That's just stupid. I'll even give you Murray and Dunn (even though he's not better than them either), but there is no way Richardson is even in the same league as Ingram. Richardson shot 36% from the field on the season. That is just pitiful. He's essentially Michael Carter Williams but not as good on defense. The comparison I've heard scouts use with him is Nick Young but less athletic.  You're nuts if you think he's better than Ingram,.
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« Reply #297 on: April 03, 2016, 06:32:01 AM »
Quote from: Marco Baldi on April 02, 2016, 11:58:11 PM
Time will tell.

Murray overrated, Dunn hit his ceiling and is years older, Ingram is 6'9-Thats what he has going for him. I think he has a better future  than Hield also

Ingram averaged 4 more ppg 2 more rpg shot 46 percent against Richardson 37 pct and 41 pct from 3 against Richardson 35 pct.  Ingram also played very well in ncaas.  But all he has over him is he's 6'9?
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« Reply #298 on: April 03, 2016, 08:42:10 AM »
Quote from: Tha Kid on April 03, 2016, 06:32:01 AM
Quote from: Marco Baldi on April 02, 2016, 11:58:11 PM
Time will tell.

Murray overrated, Dunn hit his ceiling and is years older, Ingram is 6'9-Thats what he has going for him. I think he has a better future  than Hield also

Ingram averaged 4 more ppg 2 more rpg shot 46 percent against Richardson 37 pct and 41 pct from 3 against Richardson 35 pct.  Ingram also played very well in ncaas.  But all he has over him is he's 6'9?

That's all you got? :)
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« Reply #299 on: April 03, 2016, 08:42:48 AM »
Quote from: Marco Baldi on April 02, 2016, 11:46:29 PM
And you are?

Actually I am but either way how is that relevant?
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