San Fran Game

Give USF players and coaches credit, they scouted our team and executed their game plan well. All those who wanted to see us play man more, well you see why we don’t. Our help D and secondary rotations needs alot of work. The zone wasn’t working, so we went to man. Switching on D wasn’t the issue, Dom played their PG straight up the entire 2nd half and you would think Dom should be able to stop dribble penetration from their PG and he couldn’t. One thing was clear is that they were killing us in the half court game at both ends of the floor. We don't have shooters, and we don’t have anyone who can create for either themselves or others. We can’t play that way, we need to play up tempo and run. I would have liked to see how USF handled a press though.

Quote from: STJFAN on December 05, 2012, 05:07:41 PM

Give USF players and coaches credit, they scouted our team and executed their game plan well. All those who wanted to see us play man more, well you see why we don’t. Our help D and secondary rotations needs alot of work. The zone wasn’t working, so we went to man. Switching on D wasn’t the issue, Dom played their PG straight up the entire 2nd half and you would think Dom should be able to stop dribble penetration from their PG and he couldn’t. One thing was clear is that they were killing us in the half court game at both ends of the floor. We don't have shooters, and we don’t have anyone who can create for either themselves or others. We can’t play that way, we need to play up tempo and run. I would have liked to see how USF handled a press though.

two types of man coverage.  you can press the dribbler, or you can play off the dribbler.  definitely going into the game, you would expect us to be quicker and get in his jersey.  but once you get burned a few times, you need to adjust.  we never did.  i am a big supporter of lavin on this board.  but it doesn't mean he's infallible.  i thought he had a couple of bad games.  i thought he didn't handle the refs properly during the murray st. game.  the other coach took an early tee and subsequently got a bunch of bullshit calls.  lavin let them get away with it.  i really believe that let murray st back into the game and gave them momentum going into the half.  otherwise, they stay buried.  and last night, i didn't see adjustments on how we played doolin. i have to admit, i think after nine games, we're better than this.  i thought we turned the corner after the carolina game.  but we went backwards instead.

Quote from: Celtics11 on December 05, 2012, 02:36:46 PM

Quote from: stormwarning on December 05, 2012, 02:31:07 PM

a couple of posts complaining about the switching on defense.  supposedly, the team was built so that anybody could cover anybody.  the problem i saw last night was that nobody was able to contain doolin, whether it was on a switch or straight up.  to be fair to the team, some of it was due to those guys making some amazing plays and hitting their shots.  for example, saw chris pick up doolin off the screen and doolin made a nasty reverse layup.  just have to tip your hat on plays like that.

disagree. We are constantly being beaten off the dribble and we are supposed to be quick and athletic. this is a lack of the coaching staff driving home the proper techniques and fundamentals of defense. Bore them with a three hour practice of nothing but technique and proper footwork. Made that frisco kid look like Isaiah Thomas.

So you dont believe the staff teaches proper techniques or fundamentals of defense? I believe that is comical.

Quote from: STJFAN on December 05, 2012, 05:22:27 PM

Quote from: Celtics11 on December 05, 2012, 02:36:46 PM

Quote from: stormwarning on December 05, 2012, 02:31:07 PM

a couple of posts complaining about the switching on defense.  supposedly, the team was built so that anybody could cover anybody.  the problem i saw last night was that nobody was able to contain doolin, whether it was on a switch or straight up.  to be fair to the team, some of it was due to those guys making some amazing plays and hitting their shots.  for example, saw chris pick up doolin off the screen and doolin made a nasty reverse layup.  just have to tip your hat on plays like that.

disagree. We are constantly being beaten off the dribble and we are supposed to be quick and athletic. this is a lack of the coaching staff driving home the proper techniques and fundamentals of defense. Bore them with a three hour practice of nothing but technique and proper footwork. Made that frisco kid look like Isaiah Thomas.

So you dont believe the staff teaches proper techniques or fundamentals of defense? I believe that is comical.

Glad you had a good laugh but if you could read you would have comprehended that I said that they HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO DRIVE IT HOME YET. What's your explanation for having quicker more athletic players being constantly beaten of the dribble MAVEN?

Watched the game and adding my 2 cents a little late.  Watching SF PG made me think that we need a PG who can penetrate and kick out.  We need Branch to show up big beginning Dec 16 when he becomes eligible.  That is the first missing piece of the puzzle.  Secondly, we need Sanchez badly.  I like Obekpa but he could use some elder leadership and since he is our only big we'll be in trouble when he picks up fouls.  I actually think he is playing a little tentatively, sort of like GG did last year.  If Sanchez doesn't qualify I don't see any way GG can remain a redshirt.

I really admire the way SF played.  We got beaten in an old fashioned way.  PG creating on the offense.  SF was tremendous with picks to create space and match up issues.  Sucks we lost but it is a great gauge of what we need to address as a team to get better.  Our weaknesses are glaring so it isn't too difficult to demystify this loss.  Our guys will get a lot of mileage out of watching game film on this and making corrections.

Still like our chances with our team going forward.

Was in the hospital, unable to see the game.   Anyone know if theirs an archived stream out there somewhere?

Also, how did D'End Parker Look?  He was SUPPOSED to be UCLA's SG last year and this, after transferring from JC, but his mom got ill, and he transferred back to the bay area after one exhibition game as a Bruin....

Wanna be sick?  My first glimpse of the game and here are the highlights.  P.S.  specialy coaching strategy can't fix what is broken in this video.  The kids are just chasing on D, standing straight up and getting beat to position.  No amount of special strategizing is going to fix this problem ie. man vs zone vs press/trap.  This is just horrid execution.  These kids better start realizing that defense is important.  Every move in the video could have been prevented by smarter defense anymore hustle.  Coaches have to get these kids taking more pride in stopping their opponent.  I'm not worried about our offense at all, even with some stalls we've had.  I'm worry about us learning to defend. 

Enjoy...
Hey, these are not first year players.  Virtually every one of them has been coached from the day they stepped on a court and showed some potential.  I really feel they would have done better on their own.  They're so intent on trying to fit into a so called system they're forgetting how to play basic basketball. They all know how to defend by this stage of the game.  If they just chose up sides and decided who was guarding whom I think they'd have done better than they did.  I think they're overcoached and not taking advantage of their talent.  Open shots and penetration shows a lack of understanding of individual responsibility.  They don't fight through picks and get caught in mismatches all game long.  I know all these great athletes are supposed to be able to match up against anyone but it ain't happening and the open guys are so open it's hard to tell who's fault it is.  Where is the accountability and subbing when guys lose their men?

University of San Francisco BEATS ST.JOHNS!!!(De'end Parker, Cody Doolin, Mark Tollefson)

Just saying...

“@ECoastBias: Since beating St. John's at home, San Francisco has lost 7 of 9, losing to Holy Cross & Pacific, beating a non D-1 and E TN State.”

Regarding Parker USF high scorer 21. USF basketball website list him as a junior but credit him with 2 games at UCLA as well as 2years at CCSF.