Polee transferring to move closer to home

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Re: Polee transferring to move closer to home
« Reply #180 on: June 09, 2011, 04:59:21 PM »
I don't know what the future holds for young Mr. Polee but I do know that Evans was a vastly superior player THIS YEAR and didn't play enough for whatever reason.  Whether it was his fault doesn't really matter and to his credit, Lavin did rectify the situation and openly expressed his satisfaction with the outcome.  I really doubt that you'll hear him say the same about Polee.  The kid has a long way to go and crapping out at the first sign of a little competition wasn't the best way to start.  He's gone and that's all she wrote to me.  I'd rather read about guys like Geno, Glover and Bootsy etc. who gave it up for SJU.

Lavin didn't rectify the situation, Evans did by doing what the coaches wanted him to do.  Once he did that, he earned the playing time.  If he had done that from the beginning, he would have gotten the playing time you feel he deserved.  That is on him.

BINGO, You hit the nail on the head 85.

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Re: Polee transferring to move closer to home
« Reply #181 on: June 09, 2011, 05:18:21 PM »
So where is Dwayne headed?

You know I was at the SMC game and thought that Dwayne was going to be a major contributor.  Well that did not happen!

I guess his Dad thought that Dwayne's future NBA aspirations were to be better served by sitting out a year and playing "nearby".

I could see his point, but I would have loved to see Dwayne develop under Coach Lavin.

Re: Polee transferring to move closer to home
« Reply #182 on: June 10, 2011, 04:59:45 AM »
I don't know what the future holds for young Mr. Polee but I do know that Evans was a vastly superior player THIS YEAR and didn't play enough for whatever reason.  Whether it was his fault doesn't really matter and to his credit, Lavin did rectify the situation and openly expressed his satisfaction with the outcome.  I really doubt that you'll hear him say the same about Polee.  The kid has a long way to go and crapping out at the first sign of a little competition wasn't the best way to start.  He's gone and that's all she wrote to me.  I'd rather read about guys like Geno, Glover and Bootsy etc. who gave it up for SJU.

Lavin didn't rectify the situation, Evans did by doing what the coaches wanted him to do.  Once he did that, he earned the playing time.  If he had done that from the beginning, he would have gotten the playing time you feel he deserved.  That is on him.

BINGO, You hit the nail on the head 85.
Wrong - What actually happened is that Mike Dunlap went to bat for Sean and said if he was in a dark alley somewhere the guy he would want with him was Sean Evans.  Do you really think he would have said that if Sean was dogging it in practices?  Dunlap is a taskmaster of the highest order and he went to bat for the kid.  Then amazingly the minutes came and the production did as well.  If it weren't for that he would have spent the whole year getting splinters.  The kid needed someone in his corner and that's the main reason I kept posting about him.  To this day I believe it was the right thing to do and for sure nobody else was willing to do it.  Now to still be getting knocked and insulted for it truly sucks.  You want to knock Sean and/or me at least get your facts straight.  Bingo yourself.

Re: Polee transferring to move closer to home
« Reply #183 on: June 10, 2011, 05:41:28 AM »
I don't know what the future holds for young Mr. Polee but I do know that Evans was a vastly superior player THIS YEAR and didn't play enough for whatever reason.  Whether it was his fault doesn't really matter and to his credit, Lavin did rectify the situation and openly expressed his satisfaction with the outcome.  I really doubt that you'll hear him say the same about Polee.  The kid has a long way to go and crapping out at the first sign of a little competition wasn't the best way to start.  He's gone and that's all she wrote to me.  I'd rather read about guys like Geno, Glover and Bootsy etc. who gave it up for SJU.

Lavin didn't rectify the situation, Evans did by doing what the coaches wanted him to do.  Once he did that, he earned the playing time.  If he had done that from the beginning, he would have gotten the playing time you feel he deserved.  That is on him.

BINGO, You hit the nail on the head 85.
Wrong - What actually happened is that Mike Dunlap went to bat for Sean and said if he was in a dark alley somewhere the guy he would want with him was Sean Evans.  Do you really think he would have said that if Sean was dogging it in practices?  Dunlap is a taskmaster of the highest order and he went to bat for the kid.  Then amazingly the minutes came and the production did as well.  If it weren't for that he would have spent the whole year getting splinters.  The kid needed someone in his corner and that's the main reason I kept posting about him.  To this day I believe it was the right thing to do and for sure nobody else was willing to do it.  Now to still be getting knocked and insulted for it truly sucks.  You want to knock Sean and/or me at least get your facts straight.  Bingo yourself.

Bobre you and I will agree to disagree but I prefer to go with Sean Evans version of the facts and not some hypothesis.

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Re: Polee transferring to move closer to home
« Reply #184 on: June 10, 2011, 08:31:57 AM »
I don't know what the future holds for young Mr. Polee but I do know that Evans was a vastly superior player THIS YEAR and didn't play enough for whatever reason.  Whether it was his fault doesn't really matter and to his credit, Lavin did rectify the situation and openly expressed his satisfaction with the outcome.  I really doubt that you'll hear him say the same about Polee.  The kid has a long way to go and crapping out at the first sign of a little competition wasn't the best way to start.  He's gone and that's all she wrote to me.  I'd rather read about guys like Geno, Glover and Bootsy etc. who gave it up for SJU.

Lavin didn't rectify the situation, Evans did by doing what the coaches wanted him to do.  Once he did that, he earned the playing time.  If he had done that from the beginning, he would have gotten the playing time you feel he deserved.  That is on him.

BINGO, You hit the nail on the head 85.
Wrong - What actually happened is that Mike Dunlap went to bat for Sean and said if he was in a dark alley somewhere the guy he would want with him was Sean Evans.  Do you really think he would have said that if Sean was dogging it in practices?  Dunlap is a taskmaster of the highest order and he went to bat for the kid.  Then amazingly the minutes came and the production did as well.  If it weren't for that he would have spent the whole year getting splinters.  The kid needed someone in his corner and that's the main reason I kept posting about him.  To this day I believe it was the right thing to do and for sure nobody else was willing to do it.  Now to still be getting knocked and insulted for it truly sucks.  You want to knock Sean and/or me at least get your facts straight.  Bingo yourself.

I can't wait to see what player you latch onto next.
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Re: Polee transferring to move closer to home
« Reply #185 on: June 10, 2011, 08:55:53 AM »
How can you argue with someone who lives in an alternate reality?

Re: Polee transferring to move closer to home
« Reply #186 on: June 10, 2011, 12:21:21 PM »
I don't know what the future holds for young Mr. Polee but I do know that Evans was a vastly superior player THIS YEAR and didn't play enough for whatever reason.  Whether it was his fault doesn't really matter and to his credit, Lavin did rectify the situation and openly expressed his satisfaction with the outcome.  I really doubt that you'll hear him say the same about Polee.  The kid has a long way to go and crapping out at the first sign of a little competition wasn't the best way to start.  He's gone and that's all she wrote to me.  I'd rather read about guys like Geno, Glover and Bootsy etc. who gave it up for SJU.

Lavin didn't rectify the situation, Evans did by doing what the coaches wanted him to do.  Once he did that, he earned the playing time.  If he had done that from the beginning, he would have gotten the playing time you feel he deserved.  That is on him.

BINGO, You hit the nail on the head 85.
Wrong - What actually happened is that Mike Dunlap went to bat for Sean and said if he was in a dark alley somewhere the guy he would want with him was Sean Evans.  Do you really think he would have said that if Sean was dogging it in practices?  Dunlap is a taskmaster of the highest order and he went to bat for the kid.  Then amazingly the minutes came and the production did as well.  If it weren't for that he would have spent the whole year getting splinters.  The kid needed someone in his corner and that's the main reason I kept posting about him.  To this day I believe it was the right thing to do and for sure nobody else was willing to do it.  Now to still be getting knocked and insulted for it truly sucks.  You want to knock Sean and/or me at least get your facts straight.  Bingo yourself.

Bobre you and I will agree to disagree but I prefer to go with Sean Evans version of the facts and not some hypothesis.
The facts I stated appeared in the Newsday before Redmen.com went down.  Mike Maher was kind enough to PM me when it was printed and it did fill in some blanks as to Evans' last season.  This is reality, NOT hypothesis.  Before you restrict yourself to Sean's "player speak" please consider the situation he was in and his desire for playing time. I DO have a copy of the article by the way and it is totally accurate.  It's tough to get because it requires a Newsday subscription.  My son has media connections however, and got it for me.  It was also discussed on Redmen.com before it went down.  I know the truth hurts sometimes, especially when I'm the one who is telling it.  Don't really care whether you agree but you may run into someone who read the article, knows the truth, and look dumb if the topic comes up.  Bingo to ya! Bobre.

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Re: Polee transferring to move closer to home
« Reply #187 on: June 10, 2011, 02:51:12 PM »
I can't wait to see what player you latch onto next.

Hopefully someone who has a high basketball IQ and gets with the program immediately instead of wasting the first 20 games of the season.

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Re: Polee transferring to move closer to home
« Reply #188 on: June 10, 2011, 03:43:16 PM »
I don't know what the future holds for young Mr. Polee but I do know that Evans was a vastly superior player THIS YEAR and didn't play enough for whatever reason.  Whether it was his fault doesn't really matter and to his credit, Lavin did rectify the situation and openly expressed his satisfaction with the outcome.  I really doubt that you'll hear him say the same about Polee.  The kid has a long way to go and crapping out at the first sign of a little competition wasn't the best way to start.  He's gone and that's all she wrote to me.  I'd rather read about guys like Geno, Glover and Bootsy etc. who gave it up for SJU.

Lavin didn't rectify the situation, Evans did by doing what the coaches wanted him to do.  Once he did that, he earned the playing time.  If he had done that from the beginning, he would have gotten the playing time you feel he deserved.  That is on him.

BINGO, You hit the nail on the head 85.
Wrong - What actually happened is that Mike Dunlap went to bat for Sean and said if he was in a dark alley somewhere the guy he would want with him was Sean Evans.  Do you really think he would have said that if Sean was dogging it in practices?  Dunlap is a taskmaster of the highest order and he went to bat for the kid.  Then amazingly the minutes came and the production did as well.  If it weren't for that he would have spent the whole year getting splinters.  The kid needed someone in his corner and that's the main reason I kept posting about him.  To this day I believe it was the right thing to do and for sure nobody else was willing to do it.  Now to still be getting knocked and insulted for it truly sucks.  You want to knock Sean and/or me at least get your facts straight.  Bingo yourself.

Bobre you and I will agree to disagree but I prefer to go with Sean Evans version of the facts and not some hypothesis.
The facts I stated appeared in the Newsday before Redmen.com went down.  Mike Maher was kind enough to PM me when it was printed and it did fill in some blanks as to Evans' last season.  This is reality, NOT hypothesis.  Before you restrict yourself to Sean's "player speak" please consider the situation he was in and his desire for playing time. I DO have a copy of the article by the way and it is totally accurate.  It's tough to get because it requires a Newsday subscription.  My son has media connections however, and got it for me.  It was also discussed on Redmen.com before it went down.  I know the truth hurts sometimes, especially when I'm the one who is telling it.  Don't really care whether you agree but you may run into someone who read the article, knows the truth, and look dumb if the topic comes up.  Bingo to ya! Bobre.

I read the article also and recall what it said.  Sean is quoted in the article as not buying into the new regime and not doing what they wanted.  He is also quoted as saying he thought of transfering.  Dunlap stayed on him, used the carrot and the stick method and got him to get with it.  Evans will go to bat for him because of that.  Again, once he brought into what they wanted, he got more playing time.  If he had done it from the beginning, he would have gotten more minutes earlier.

Re: Polee transferring to move closer to home
« Reply #189 on: June 11, 2011, 11:52:15 AM »
I don't know what the future holds for young Mr. Polee but I do know that Evans was a vastly superior player THIS YEAR and didn't play enough for whatever reason.  Whether it was his fault doesn't really matter and to his credit, Lavin did rectify the situation and openly expressed his satisfaction with the outcome.  I really doubt that you'll hear him say the same about Polee.  The kid has a long way to go and crapping out at the first sign of a little competition wasn't the best way to start.  He's gone and that's all she wrote to me.  I'd rather read about guys like Geno, Glover and Bootsy etc. who gave it up for SJU.

Lavin didn't rectify the situation, Evans did by doing what the coaches wanted him to do.  Once he did that, he earned the playing time.  If he had done that from the beginning, he would have gotten the playing time you feel he deserved.  That is on him.

BINGO, You hit the nail on the head 85.
Wrong - What actually happened is that Mike Dunlap went to bat for Sean and said if he was in a dark alley somewhere the guy he would want with him was Sean Evans.  Do you really think he would have said that if Sean was dogging it in practices?  Dunlap is a taskmaster of the highest order and he went to bat for the kid.  Then amazingly the minutes came and the production did as well.  If it weren't for that he would have spent the whole year getting splinters.  The kid needed someone in his corner and that's the main reason I kept posting about him.  To this day I believe it was the right thing to do and for sure nobody else was willing to do it.  Now to still be getting knocked and insulted for it truly sucks.  You want to knock Sean and/or me at least get your facts straight.  Bingo yourself.

Bobre you and I will agree to disagree but I prefer to go with Sean Evans version of the facts and not some hypothesis.
The facts I stated appeared in the Newsday before Redmen.com went down.  Mike Maher was kind enough to PM me when it was printed and it did fill in some blanks as to Evans' last season.  This is reality, NOT hypothesis.  Before you restrict yourself to Sean's "player speak" please consider the situation he was in and his desire for playing time. I DO have a copy of the article by the way and it is totally accurate.  It's tough to get because it requires a Newsday subscription.  My son has media connections however, and got it for me.  It was also discussed on Redmen.com before it went down.  I know the truth hurts sometimes, especially when I'm the one who is telling it.  Don't really care whether you agree but you may run into someone who read the article, knows the truth, and look dumb if the topic comes up.  Bingo to ya! Bobre.

I read the article also and recall what it said.  Sean is quoted in the article as not buying into the new regime and not doing what they wanted.  He is also quoted as saying he thought of transfering.  Dunlap stayed on him, used the carrot and the stick method and got him to get with it.  Evans will go to bat for him because of that.  Again, once he brought into what they wanted, he got more playing time.  If he had done it from the beginning, he would have gotten more minutes earlier.
So you think Dunlap came out with that statement out of the clear blue about a player who wasn't doing what he was supposed to? Does that make any sense whatsoever? What's obvious between the lines was that Lavin wasn't sold on Sean from the getgo with the JBs and Polee available.  He talked with him about transferring the same way he did Stith.  Both decided to stick it out.  The problem was that Sean had had a lot more success and PT under Roberts.  It's easy to see why he was taken back after starting 73 games.  Can you really blame him for that?  So Sean found himself between a rock and a hard spot with Dunlap, who stuck his neck out, and Lavin.  He had to take some of the blame to smooth things out.  If you recall we kind of stunk it up vs St. Mary's, Fordham and St. Bonnies so Sean wasn't all that wrong early on.  He also had no part in those losses.  We got going when Lavin began starting Hardy and Horne instead of Boothe and Stith. 
The rumors about Sean not buying into the system began before the season started and frankly he was right and I agreed with him after the Fordham game. Then the changes were made, the Dunlap thing went down and Steve publically blamed himself for some of the crap.  He also followed up by awarding Sean the game ball after his nice 10 minutes vs Duke.  First time he had ever done that and IMO a little acknowlegement that he had been wrong about Evans. Anyway that's the way I saw it.  I'm kinda surprised that you read the article and still thought Sean was dogging it early.  Dunlap just isn't the type to go against his boss and back a  loser. 

Re: Polee transferring to move closer to home
« Reply #190 on: June 11, 2011, 12:44:12 PM »
Let me clear up a few things....

-Sean was never asked to transfer. Omari and Stith were.
-Sean couldn't play 30mpg with the amount of turnovers and missed FT as the coaches felt this was part of the problem and Brownlee was part of the solution.
-He wasn't buying into the system thought he should have had a larger role
-They wanted him to stop dribbling, stop shooting, rebound and defend.

He got some playing time due to a non public team issue which almost put him in by default. He took full advantage of the opportunity doing what the coaches told him to do. When he saw success with what they were telling him he bought it. The rest is history.
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Re: Polee transferring to move closer to home
« Reply #191 on: June 11, 2011, 12:55:27 PM »
Non-public team issue?  Aren't you a member of the Press, Dave?  Report!  ;)

Re: Polee transferring to move closer to home
« Reply #192 on: June 11, 2011, 01:44:21 PM »
Never said he was asked to transfer but I know for a fact it was discussed.  If you look up the stats Sean's t/os were no worse than JB's and DJ until senior year.  None of what you said explains Dunlap's stance about Sean.  As for him thinking he should have had a bigger role he was totally correct as the outcome of the season proved.  30 minutes per game is a far cry from the DNPs he was getting.  Double doubles don't grow on trees.  As for a non-public team issue that flies in the face of the team ball he got vs Duke.  I just think Lavin realized he needed him and he did.

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Re: Polee transferring to move closer to home
« Reply #193 on: June 13, 2011, 01:10:09 PM »
I don't know what the future holds for young Mr. Polee but I do know that Evans was a vastly superior player THIS YEAR and didn't play enough for whatever reason.  Whether it was his fault doesn't really matter and to his credit, Lavin did rectify the situation and openly expressed his satisfaction with the outcome.  I really doubt that you'll hear him say the same about Polee.  The kid has a long way to go and crapping out at the first sign of a little competition wasn't the best way to start.  He's gone and that's all she wrote to me.  I'd rather read about guys like Geno, Glover and Bootsy etc. who gave it up for SJU.

Lavin didn't rectify the situation, Evans did by doing what the coaches wanted him to do.  Once he did that, he earned the playing time.  If he had done that from the beginning, he would have gotten the playing time you feel he deserved.  That is on him.

BINGO, You hit the nail on the head 85.
Wrong - What actually happened is that Mike Dunlap went to bat for Sean and said if he was in a dark alley somewhere the guy he would want with him was Sean Evans.  Do you really think he would have said that if Sean was dogging it in practices?  Dunlap is a taskmaster of the highest order and he went to bat for the kid.  Then amazingly the minutes came and the production did as well.  If it weren't for that he would have spent the whole year getting splinters.  The kid needed someone in his corner and that's the main reason I kept posting about him.  To this day I believe it was the right thing to do and for sure nobody else was willing to do it.  Now to still be getting knocked and insulted for it truly sucks.  You want to knock Sean and/or me at least get your facts straight.  Bingo yourself.

Bobre you and I will agree to disagree but I prefer to go with Sean Evans version of the facts and not some hypothesis.
The facts I stated appeared in the Newsday before Redmen.com went down.  Mike Maher was kind enough to PM me when it was printed and it did fill in some blanks as to Evans' last season.  This is reality, NOT hypothesis.  Before you restrict yourself to Sean's "player speak" please consider the situation he was in and his desire for playing time. I DO have a copy of the article by the way and it is totally accurate.  It's tough to get because it requires a Newsday subscription.  My son has media connections however, and got it for me.  It was also discussed on Redmen.com before it went down.  I know the truth hurts sometimes, especially when I'm the one who is telling it.  Don't really care whether you agree but you may run into someone who read the article, knows the truth, and look dumb if the topic comes up.  Bingo to ya! Bobre.

I read the article also and recall what it said.  Sean is quoted in the article as not buying into the new regime and not doing what they wanted.  He is also quoted as saying he thought of transfering.  Dunlap stayed on him, used the carrot and the stick method and got him to get with it.  Evans will go to bat for him because of that.  Again, once he brought into what they wanted, he got more playing time.  If he had done it from the beginning, he would have gotten more minutes earlier.
So you think Dunlap came out with that statement out of the clear blue about a player who wasn't doing what he was supposed to? Does that make any sense whatsoever? What's obvious between the lines was that Lavin wasn't sold on Sean from the getgo with the JBs and Polee available.  He talked with him about transferring the same way he did Stith.  Both decided to stick it out.  The problem was that Sean had had a lot more success and PT under Roberts.  It's easy to see why he was taken back after starting 73 games.  Can you really blame him for that?  So Sean found himself between a rock and a hard spot with Dunlap, who stuck his neck out, and Lavin.  He had to take some of the blame to smooth things out.  If you recall we kind of stunk it up vs St. Mary's, Fordham and St. Bonnies so Sean wasn't all that wrong early on.  He also had no part in those losses.  We got going when Lavin began starting Hardy and Horne instead of Boothe and Stith. 
The rumors about Sean not buying into the system began before the season started and frankly he was right and I agreed with him after the Fordham game. Then the changes were made, the Dunlap thing went down and Steve publically blamed himself for some of the crap.  He also followed up by awarding Sean the game ball after his nice 10 minutes vs Duke.  First time he had ever done that and IMO a little acknowlegement that he had been wrong about Evans. Anyway that's the way I saw it.  I'm kinda surprised that you read the article and still thought Sean was dogging it early.  Dunlap just isn't the type to go against his boss and back a  loser.

I didn't say he was dogging it.  I said he wasn't doing what the coaches wanted him to do, didn't mean he didn't practice hard.  The two are not exclusive.  He was in the dog house, he put himself there.  He did a great job off the bench against Duke where he turned the corner.  Lavin gave him the game ball because he listened, came up big and Lavin saw it as a perfect motivating moment. 


Re: Polee transferring to move closer to home
« Reply #194 on: June 13, 2011, 01:41:20 PM »
I didn't say he was dogging it.  I said he wasn't doing what the coaches wanted him to do, didn't mean he didn't practice hard.  The two are not exclusive.  He was in the dog house, he put himself there.  He did a great job off the bench against Duke where he turned the corner.  Lavin gave him the game ball because he listened, came up big and Lavin saw it as a perfect motivating moment.

Pretty much the way I viewed it, as well.

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Re: Polee transferring to move closer to home
« Reply #195 on: June 13, 2011, 02:19:35 PM »
You know you can tell some people that the earth is round until you are blue in the face, but no matter how much evidence you show them, they will never will agree with you.  At what point do you just let them believe what they want?

Just ask'n?
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Re: Polee transferring to move closer to home
« Reply #196 on: June 13, 2011, 07:24:12 PM »
I've had the displeasure of encountering several people who fit that description.

Each one of them was an alcoholic.

Re: Polee transferring to move closer to home
« Reply #197 on: June 13, 2011, 09:49:30 PM »
Not to bring this thread too far off topic, but it seems as though Polee will be playing at SDSU according to his twitter

Re: Polee transferring to move closer to home
« Reply #198 on: June 13, 2011, 09:56:30 PM »
Not to bring this thread too far off topic, but it seems as though Polee will be playing at SDSU according to his twitter

Seems like a good fit for him...definitely wish him the best!
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Re: Polee transferring to move closer to home
« Reply #199 on: June 13, 2011, 10:58:54 PM »
Seems like a good fit for him...definitely wish him the best!

They're definitely putting one guy in the NBA this year, maybe two, so it's a good place for him.