Quote from: LJSA on December 12, 2012, 01:12:55 PMQuote from: Marillac on December 12, 2012, 01:02:39 PMQuote from: sju89tr on December 12, 2012, 12:43:36 PMQuote from: Marillac on December 12, 2012, 12:28:32 PMCreighton (#6), Wichita State (#38), Xavier (#39), and Dayton (#28) are all non-football schools ranked in the top 40 for attendance. St. Louis (#66) is also historically top 25 in attendance. Add those schools to the "Catholic Seven," and also go out and grab Gonzaga and Butler. I want nothing to do with the crappy football schools remaining. We would have 15 of the top 85 (Butler #78 and Gonzaga #85) schools in attendance nationally, and the NYC, DC, Chicago, Philly, St. Louis, Cincy, Milwuakee, and NE tv markets. This would be the second best basketball conference in America behind the ACC. I would do a mega 24 team coast to coast basketball conference trying to hit every major media market and the tv dollars will come I would never want to go above 16. I can't think of 17 other schools that can bring enough to the table to share profits with. A few of the ones that I'd want for a Western division in a mega conference have football, so luring them would be tough.St. Mary's and gonzaga for sure
Quote from: Marillac on December 12, 2012, 01:02:39 PMQuote from: sju89tr on December 12, 2012, 12:43:36 PMQuote from: Marillac on December 12, 2012, 12:28:32 PMCreighton (#6), Wichita State (#38), Xavier (#39), and Dayton (#28) are all non-football schools ranked in the top 40 for attendance. St. Louis (#66) is also historically top 25 in attendance. Add those schools to the "Catholic Seven," and also go out and grab Gonzaga and Butler. I want nothing to do with the crappy football schools remaining. We would have 15 of the top 85 (Butler #78 and Gonzaga #85) schools in attendance nationally, and the NYC, DC, Chicago, Philly, St. Louis, Cincy, Milwuakee, and NE tv markets. This would be the second best basketball conference in America behind the ACC. I would do a mega 24 team coast to coast basketball conference trying to hit every major media market and the tv dollars will come I would never want to go above 16. I can't think of 17 other schools that can bring enough to the table to share profits with. A few of the ones that I'd want for a Western division in a mega conference have football, so luring them would be tough.
Quote from: sju89tr on December 12, 2012, 12:43:36 PMQuote from: Marillac on December 12, 2012, 12:28:32 PMCreighton (#6), Wichita State (#38), Xavier (#39), and Dayton (#28) are all non-football schools ranked in the top 40 for attendance. St. Louis (#66) is also historically top 25 in attendance. Add those schools to the "Catholic Seven," and also go out and grab Gonzaga and Butler. I want nothing to do with the crappy football schools remaining. We would have 15 of the top 85 (Butler #78 and Gonzaga #85) schools in attendance nationally, and the NYC, DC, Chicago, Philly, St. Louis, Cincy, Milwuakee, and NE tv markets. This would be the second best basketball conference in America behind the ACC. I would do a mega 24 team coast to coast basketball conference trying to hit every major media market and the tv dollars will come I would never want to go above 16. I can't think of 17 other schools that can bring enough to the table to share profits with.
Quote from: Marillac on December 12, 2012, 12:28:32 PMCreighton (#6), Wichita State (#38), Xavier (#39), and Dayton (#28) are all non-football schools ranked in the top 40 for attendance. St. Louis (#66) is also historically top 25 in attendance. Add those schools to the "Catholic Seven," and also go out and grab Gonzaga and Butler. I want nothing to do with the crappy football schools remaining. We would have 15 of the top 85 (Butler #78 and Gonzaga #85) schools in attendance nationally, and the NYC, DC, Chicago, Philly, St. Louis, Cincy, Milwuakee, and NE tv markets. This would be the second best basketball conference in America behind the ACC. I would do a mega 24 team coast to coast basketball conference trying to hit every major media market and the tv dollars will come
Creighton (#6), Wichita State (#38), Xavier (#39), and Dayton (#28) are all non-football schools ranked in the top 40 for attendance. St. Louis (#66) is also historically top 25 in attendance. Add those schools to the "Catholic Seven," and also go out and grab Gonzaga and Butler. I want nothing to do with the crappy football schools remaining. We would have 15 of the top 85 (Butler #78 and Gonzaga #85) schools in attendance nationally, and the NYC, DC, Chicago, Philly, St. Louis, Cincy, Milwuakee, and NE tv markets. This would be the second best basketball conference in America behind the ACC.
Quote from: sju89tr on December 12, 2012, 01:24:40 PMQuote from: LJSA on December 12, 2012, 01:12:55 PMQuote from: Marillac on December 12, 2012, 01:02:39 PMQuote from: sju89tr on December 12, 2012, 12:43:36 PMQuote from: Marillac on December 12, 2012, 12:28:32 PMCreighton (#6), Wichita State (#38), Xavier (#39), and Dayton (#28) are all non-football schools ranked in the top 40 for attendance. St. Louis (#66) is also historically top 25 in attendance. Add those schools to the "Catholic Seven," and also go out and grab Gonzaga and Butler. I want nothing to do with the crappy football schools remaining. We would have 15 of the top 85 (Butler #78 and Gonzaga #85) schools in attendance nationally, and the NYC, DC, Chicago, Philly, St. Louis, Cincy, Milwuakee, and NE tv markets. This would be the second best basketball conference in America behind the ACC. I would do a mega 24 team coast to coast basketball conference trying to hit every major media market and the tv dollars will come I would never want to go above 16. I can't think of 17 other schools that can bring enough to the table to share profits with. A few of the ones that I'd want for a Western division in a mega conference have football, so luring them would be tough.St. Mary's and gonzaga for sure St. Mary's draws 3,000 fans a game and that is a record for them. They are #2 in the WCC.
Quote from: sju89tr on December 12, 2012, 01:24:40 PMQuote from: LJSA on December 12, 2012, 01:12:55 PMQuote from: Marillac on December 12, 2012, 01:02:39 PMQuote from: sju89tr on December 12, 2012, 12:43:36 PMQuote from: Marillac on December 12, 2012, 12:28:32 PMCreighton (#6), Wichita State (#38), Xavier (#39), and Dayton (#28) are all non-football schools ranked in the top 40 for attendance. St. Louis (#66) is also historically top 25 in attendance. Add those schools to the "Catholic Seven," and also go out and grab Gonzaga and Butler. I want nothing to do with the crappy football schools remaining. We would have 15 of the top 85 (Butler #78 and Gonzaga #85) schools in attendance nationally, and the NYC, DC, Chicago, Philly, St. Louis, Cincy, Milwuakee, and NE tv markets. This would be the second best basketball conference in America behind the ACC. I would do a mega 24 team coast to coast basketball conference trying to hit every major media market and the tv dollars will come I would never want to go above 16. I can't think of 17 other schools that can bring enough to the table to share profits with. A few of the ones that I'd want for a Western division in a mega conference have football, so luring them would be tough.St. Mary's and gonzaga for sure That's my thought, but I'd also want footballers UNLV, and BYU, and probably New Mexico. I'm not sure there are enough sexy basketball onlys for a super huge conference spanning all time zones.
Quote from: Marillac on December 12, 2012, 01:27:29 PMQuote from: sju89tr on December 12, 2012, 01:24:40 PMQuote from: LJSA on December 12, 2012, 01:12:55 PMQuote from: Marillac on December 12, 2012, 01:02:39 PMQuote from: sju89tr on December 12, 2012, 12:43:36 PMQuote from: Marillac on December 12, 2012, 12:28:32 PMCreighton (#6), Wichita State (#38), Xavier (#39), and Dayton (#28) are all non-football schools ranked in the top 40 for attendance. St. Louis (#66) is also historically top 25 in attendance. Add those schools to the "Catholic Seven," and also go out and grab Gonzaga and Butler. I want nothing to do with the crappy football schools remaining. We would have 15 of the top 85 (Butler #78 and Gonzaga #85) schools in attendance nationally, and the NYC, DC, Chicago, Philly, St. Louis, Cincy, Milwuakee, and NE tv markets. This would be the second best basketball conference in America behind the ACC. I would do a mega 24 team coast to coast basketball conference trying to hit every major media market and the tv dollars will come I would never want to go above 16. I can't think of 17 other schools that can bring enough to the table to share profits with. A few of the ones that I'd want for a Western division in a mega conference have football, so luring them would be tough.St. Mary's and gonzaga for sure St. Mary's draws 3,000 fans a game and that is a record for them. They are #2 in the WCC. Good basketball program though, better than DePaul lol
BTW, pleasure finally meeting you last week after a decade of "knowing you" here on line
Quote from: sju89tr on December 12, 2012, 01:38:57 PMQuote from: Marillac on December 12, 2012, 01:27:29 PMQuote from: sju89tr on December 12, 2012, 01:24:40 PMQuote from: LJSA on December 12, 2012, 01:12:55 PMQuote from: Marillac on December 12, 2012, 01:02:39 PMQuote from: sju89tr on December 12, 2012, 12:43:36 PMQuote from: Marillac on December 12, 2012, 12:28:32 PMCreighton (#6), Wichita State (#38), Xavier (#39), and Dayton (#28) are all non-football schools ranked in the top 40 for attendance. St. Louis (#66) is also historically top 25 in attendance. Add those schools to the "Catholic Seven," and also go out and grab Gonzaga and Butler. I want nothing to do with the crappy football schools remaining. We would have 15 of the top 85 (Butler #78 and Gonzaga #85) schools in attendance nationally, and the NYC, DC, Chicago, Philly, St. Louis, Cincy, Milwuakee, and NE tv markets. This would be the second best basketball conference in America behind the ACC. I would do a mega 24 team coast to coast basketball conference trying to hit every major media market and the tv dollars will come I would never want to go above 16. I can't think of 17 other schools that can bring enough to the table to share profits with. A few of the ones that I'd want for a Western division in a mega conference have football, so luring them would be tough.St. Mary's and gonzaga for sure St. Mary's draws 3,000 fans a game and that is a record for them. They are #2 in the WCC. Good basketball program though, better than DePaul lol Depaul is a sleeping giant...huge Chicago market for TV and when they win, they draw like crazy. Top 25 attendance figures.
I'm not sold on the coast to coast mega-conference, but even if I were .. (like LJSA said) a lot of the attractive west coast teams have football. That seems to make it a non-starter. Because after Gonzaga and St Marys, who else would you want from the west? BYU, UNLV, SDSU, etc but what are they going to do with their football teams? Join the WAC? The whole reason those schools are on the move now is because they want more visibility for their football teams - seems like we're repeating our mistakes if we get in bed with them.
If we have 8 BE teams, we should stop there. GT, Marq, Depaul, Nova, SJ, SH, Prov & Temple. If a BE commissioner attempts to add additional teams, that commissioner would only be recreating the problem that started this mess in the first place.
Quote from: Poison on December 12, 2012, 05:42:09 PMIf we have 8 BE teams, we should stop there. GT, Marq, Depaul, Nova, SJ, SH, Prov & Temple. If a BE commissioner attempts to add additional teams, that commissioner would only be recreating the problem that started this mess in the first place. just 8 will never happen. No Temple, add Xavier, Dayton, and Butler to get to ten which is a number I like. If you want 12 go get Creighton and one more. Anything more than that and I Think the league starts to get too depleted. I want a smaller conference so we can rebuild rivalries and actually get a conference feel.
Quote from: Amaseinyourface2 on December 12, 2012, 06:16:48 PMQuote from: Poison on December 12, 2012, 05:42:09 PMIf we have 8 BE teams, we should stop there. GT, Marq, Depaul, Nova, SJ, SH, Prov & Temple. If a BE commissioner attempts to add additional teams, that commissioner would only be recreating the problem that started this mess in the first place. just 8 will never happen. No Temple, add Xavier, Dayton, and Butler to get to ten which is a number I like. If you want 12 go get Creighton and one more. Anything more than that and I Think the league starts to get too depleted. I want a smaller conference so we can rebuild rivalries and actually get a conference feel. 12 is the magic number I think.
Quote from: Moose on December 12, 2012, 06:31:33 PMQuote from: Amaseinyourface2 on December 12, 2012, 06:16:48 PMQuote from: Poison on December 12, 2012, 05:42:09 PMIf we have 8 BE teams, we should stop there. GT, Marq, Depaul, Nova, SJ, SH, Prov & Temple. If a BE commissioner attempts to add additional teams, that commissioner would only be recreating the problem that started this mess in the first place. just 8 will never happen. No Temple, add Xavier, Dayton, and Butler to get to ten which is a number I like. If you want 12 go get Creighton and one more. Anything more than that and I Think the league starts to get too depleted. I want a smaller conference so we can rebuild rivalries and actually get a conference feel. 12 is the magic number I think. Why is 12 the magic number? You have 4 teams you can kick out immediately. And you should kick them out. Or you deserve to experience this again. The BE needs to learn from their mistakes. There is absolutely no reason why we need more than 8 teams. Make an exit fee exorbitant. If a program wants to leave, let them bleed to death doing it.