?? on recruiting

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Re: ?? on recruiting
« Reply #60 on: September 10, 2013, 02:55:50 PM »
we're not going to get top twenty five players in the forseeable future, especially since the big east morphed into a lesser conference.

we're not ucla, and by the looks of things, we'll never be. 

But we just got a top 25 player in Jordan. And this years team will be much better than UCLA this season. In fact i think next years SJU team will be better than UCLA as well

Poison

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« Reply #61 on: September 10, 2013, 03:39:45 PM »
And let's not forget that the key to a successful recruiting approach is to find players that suit the vision of t

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« Reply #62 on: September 11, 2013, 06:45:04 PM »
there's always going to be anxiety until we land somebody.  as for me, i'm going to enjoy this season no matter what.  and i'm confident that lavin will pull a rabbit or two out of his hat somewhere down the line.  he hasn't let us down yet.  go st johns.

paultzman

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« Reply #63 on: September 11, 2013, 07:45:15 PM »
I believe there is an open gym at Christ the King HS  Friday.  I wonder if staff will there for DelaRosa.

desco80

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« Reply #64 on: September 11, 2013, 08:35:12 PM »
Do you guys honestly think we are getting shut out of legit talent next season? Come on.  Be honest,  we know nothing of what the staff has been working on besides what a few " experts" say.

  Much ado about nothing.  We should enjoy the season on the court. You know full well we will be fine on recruiting front.  There is no historical evidence to think otherwise.

I'm with you to the point of giving Lavin the benefit of the doubt, it would be absurd to claim he definitely wont be able to sign a good class.  We dont know yet and obviously he's recruited well since he's been here.  And we don't know what's going on behind the scenes.  That can't be repeated enough. 

But I don't blame fans who are starting to worry.  3 seasons of good recruiting isn't a lifetime pass.  You say; "[we] know full well we will be fine on the recruiting front".  I don't know that actually.  I hope so...
Fans starting to worry seems like a rationale response. 

ras

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« Reply #65 on: September 11, 2013, 08:45:07 PM »
W. Carrington popping for SHU it seems like our prospects have been dropping like flies. That said, Lavin has not just had great recruiting classes for us, he had Kentucky like classes at UCLA. I believe when all is said and done we will have a good, not great class this year, but things could really pick up next year.

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« Reply #66 on: September 11, 2013, 09:53:31 PM »
W. Carrington popping for SHU it seems like our prospects have been dropping like flies. That said, Lavin has not just had great recruiting classes for us, he had Kentucky like classes at UCLA. I believe when all is said and done we will have a good, not great class this year, but things could really pick up next year.

He wasn't one of our prospects.  We weren't recruiting him any more.

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« Reply #67 on: September 12, 2013, 10:48:23 AM »
I believe when all is said and done we will have a good, not great class this year, but things could really pick up next year.

who do you think we will sign..?

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« Reply #68 on: September 12, 2013, 11:34:50 AM »
I believe when all is said and done we will have a good, not great class this year, but things could really pick up next year.

who do you think we will sign..?
i still cant identify who we are even targeting.  2014 chatter is so quiet that im now thinking something big is in the works (maybe for 2015)

ras

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« Reply #69 on: September 12, 2013, 11:38:29 AM »
I believe when all is said and done we will have a good, not great class this year, but things could really pick up next year.

who do you think we will sign..?
Not only do I not know who we will sign, I don't even know who we are targeting. except Adonis and Whitehead.

pmg911

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« Reply #70 on: September 12, 2013, 11:40:18 AM »
I believe when all is said and done we will have a good, not great class this year, but things could really pick up next year.

who do you think we will sign..?
Not only do I not know who we will sign, I don't even know who we are targeting. except Adonis and Whitehead.

then why say you think we will have a good class...

Lavin is one of the best in the business when it comes to recruiting but right now, we have flopped terribly in 2014...

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« Reply #71 on: September 12, 2013, 11:44:18 AM »
I believe when all is said and done we will have a good, not great class this year, but things could really pick up next year.

who do you think we will sign..?
Not only do I not know who we will sign, I don't even know who we are targeting. except Adonis and Whitehead.

then why say you think we will have a good class...

Lavin is one of the best in the business when it comes to recruiting but right now, we have flopped terribly in 2014...
that's why i am thinking something big and maybe longer term is brewing.  those two things are not congruous. 

desco80

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« Reply #72 on: September 12, 2013, 12:01:50 PM »
I believe when all is said and done we will have a good, not great class this year, but things could really pick up next year.

who do you think we will sign..?
Not only do I not know who we will sign, I don't even know who we are targeting. except Adonis and Whitehead.

Are we still targeting Whitehead?   Last I heard he said he would listen if St Johns got involved again.  'Again' implying they have fallen out of touch..

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« Reply #73 on: September 12, 2013, 12:32:30 PM »
IMO, our biggest recruits for this year are JaKarr and Obekpa. If they stay, we can probably get by with a couple of extra Juco and/or 150 recruit.

2015 is what we need to worry about.

Poison

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« Reply #74 on: September 12, 2013, 12:51:29 PM »
IMO, our biggest recruits for this year are JaKarr and Obekpa. If they stay, we can probably get by with a couple of extra Juco and/or 150 recruit.

2015 is what we need to worry about.

I find it astonishing that we talk so much about these guys going pro and getting drafted.
We are the only ones that have them on the NBA radar. The NBA certainly doesn't.

paultzman

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« Reply #75 on: September 12, 2013, 01:07:44 PM »
Who is of interest now?

Lavin's staff will still look at bigs to help with the team's depth next year and help replace Orlando Sanchez, who is expected to be an impact player. New names will pop up during the fall period, where coaches can visit high schools to watch workouts and invite players to Midnight Madness celebrations; St. John's has swooped in on recruiting targets quickly and effectively in the past.

We do know that the staff is focused on impact players for 2015. Steve Lavin has already having visited Roselle Catholic star guard Isaiah Briscoe, who has received an offer from St. John's.

Pope John XXIII (NJ) forward Moustapha Diagne, a 6'9" shot blocker and defender, has also received an offer from the Red Storm, according to reports. And Cheick Diallo, who was a bit of a sensation this summer as a 6'8" super-athletic shot blocker, has an offer from the Red Storm. Stephen Zimmerman, who may be the top-rated big man in the 2015 class, also has an offer from the Johnnies.

Read: Statistical insights on Cheick Diallo, Terry Larrier, Khadeen Carrington and more || Rumble in the Garden recruiting page
For this year, a name that has popped up on occasion is very big man Adonis de la Rosa, the 6'10", 270 pound center from Christ the King in Queens.

Wings Terry Larrier, Joe Burton, and Josh Cunningham are still uncommitted to a program, though neither seems to be mentioned St. John's in their recruiting conversations. Larrier, in particular, says he wants to leave NYC (Rivals video, $). Still, expect the Red Storm to continue searching for a wing in this class.

There is a solid chance that St. John's will hold an open scholarship for next year, where the staff has laid groundwork with some of the elite talents around the country and local AAU squads. Team Scan and NY Lightning have a number of players of interest, including Diallo, Thomas Bryant, Jessie Govan, and Mohamad Touray.

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ras

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« Reply #76 on: September 12, 2013, 01:24:56 PM »
I believe when all is said and done we will have a good, not great class this year, but things could really pick up next year.

who do you think we will sign..?
Not only do I not know who we will sign, I don't even know who we are targeting. except Adonis and Whitehead.

then why say you think we will have a good class...

Lavin is one of the best in the business when it comes to recruiting but right now, we have flopped terribly in 2014...
  I am only speculating . But Lavin has always come through and the last 2 years we were sweating sp? until springtime.

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« Reply #77 on: September 12, 2013, 01:38:27 PM »
IMO, our biggest recruits for this year are JaKarr and Obekpa. If they stay, we can probably get by with a couple of extra Juco and/or 150 recruit.

2015 is what we need to worry about.

I find it astonishing that we talk so much about these guys going pro and getting drafted.
We are the only ones that have them on the NBA radar. The NBA certainly doesn't.

It doesn't matter what the NBA thinks, it's what the kids and their family think.  There are so many cases of personal financial burdens that far outweigh common sense, when it comes to leaving early.

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Re: ?? on recruiting
« Reply #78 on: September 12, 2013, 10:25:44 PM »
I believe when all is said and done we will have a good, not great class this year, but things could really pick up next year.

who do you think we will sign..?

I'd love a JUCO/graduate/transfer big man and a late release top 75 guard willing to sit for a year behind three seniors.  I wouldn't mind holding the third ship, but I think it would be great to go after true three with great upside.  It'd be great to get a pair of guys with high ceilings to step in as sophs so the teams doesn't have to have a rebuilding year. 


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« Reply #79 on: September 13, 2013, 08:14:02 AM »
i think we're getting what we hoped we'd get from the lavin hire.

we have top one hundred players who we hope get coached up enough to make a solid run in march.

the coaching staff can do that.

we're not going to get top twenty five players in the forseeable future, especially since the big east morphed into a lesser conference.

we're not ucla, and by the looks of things, we'll never be. 

You don't even need to post anymore.  We all know what you are going say about any topic.

thanks for following me so closely.  i'm flattered.