Bracketology

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paultzman

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Re: Bracketology
« Reply #80 on: February 14, 2014, 10:04:49 AM »
What is tough is that SJU starts and finishes the season on the road. The last game against Marquette no less. It is was it is...

People were crushing Marquette too saying they're not good. Well they are currently in 4th place in this conference.

Great coach and mentally tough team. Like our chances though against them. They shoot worse than us and our guard play is better.  Not a walk over, but another road game we could steal.

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« Reply #81 on: February 14, 2014, 10:13:39 AM »
What is tough is that SJU starts and finishes the season on the road. The last game against Marquette no less. It is was it is...

People were crushing Marquette too saying they're not good. Well they are currently in 4th place in this conference.

Great coach and mentally tough team. Like our chances though against them. They shoot worse than us and our guard play is better.  Not a walk over, but another road game we could steal.

Road games are tough!
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« Reply #82 on: February 14, 2014, 10:25:34 AM »

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People were crushing Marquette too saying they're not good. Well they are currently in 4th place in this conference.



Dave if this was last year it would be an accomplishment for Marquette to be 4th in the league but this year the league isn't very good at all and 4th place doesn't guarantee a thing.

Besides Georgetown knocking off Michigan State the other day at the Garden this conference had ZERO good wins and that is a fact.  Big East will most likely put just 3 teams in the tourney this year




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« Reply #83 on: February 14, 2014, 10:37:37 AM »

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People were crushing Marquette too saying they're not good. Well they are currently in 4th place in this conference.



Dave if this was last year it would be an accomplishment for Marquette to be 4th in the league but this year the league isn't very good at all and 4th place doesn't guarantee a thing.

Besides Georgetown knocking off Michigan State the other day at the Garden this conference had ZERO good wins and that is a fact.  Big East will most likely put just 3 teams in the tourney this year





Nova Beat Kansas and  Xavier beat Cincinnati. Both top 10 teams, that is just off the top of my head.
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« Reply #84 on: February 14, 2014, 10:41:02 AM »
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Nova Beat Kansas and  Xavier beat Cincinnati. Both top 10 teams, that is just off the top of my head

Wods you are right about that you cannot take away Nova beating Kansas and Xavier beating Cincy they are both very good wins I heard that on a CBB show after the Georgetown game but obviously it wasn't right.  Nice catch

paultzman

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« Reply #85 on: February 14, 2014, 11:24:14 AM »
@ESPNLunardi: 8 teams for 3 spots (or four, if MichSt wins Big Ten): Dayton, Mizzou, Prov, Richmond, St. Joe's, SoMiss, St. John's, WVU. #MockSelection

paultzman

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« Reply #86 on: February 14, 2014, 12:06:16 PM »
@ESPNLunardi: FIRST FOUR OUT: St. John's, Richmond, Dayton, Southern Miss (will be First Five Out, including St. Joe's, if Illinois upsets Michigan St).

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« Reply #87 on: February 14, 2014, 12:34:36 PM »
Interesting, obviously alot can change but as of now they have two .500 teams in Georgetown & Providence in the tourney and us at .500 as the first team out. Maybe its not as tough to get in this year as a big east team as many people thought

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« Reply #88 on: February 14, 2014, 01:25:43 PM »
G'town beat Mich St but what makes Providence's resume better than ours?

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« Reply #89 on: February 14, 2014, 01:43:46 PM »
G'town beat Mich St but what makes Providence's resume better than ours?

They beat Creighton too, also that double OT loss would loom large.

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« Reply #90 on: February 14, 2014, 06:44:52 PM »
@ESPNLunardi: Yes. “@SDoreson: @ESPNLunardi St. Johns getting close to a bubble team?”

Keeping digging guys!

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« Reply #91 on: February 14, 2014, 07:21:13 PM »
Bubble teams in action tomorrow:

St Joe's @ La Salle 11am
Clemson vs Virginia 12:00
Providence vs. DePaul 2:00
Tennessee @ Missouri (both on the bubble) 4:00
Ole Miss @ Georgia 4:00
LSU @ Arkansas 5:00
Richmond vs Fordham 6:00
Baylor vs Kansas State 7:00
BYU @ St. Mary's (both on the bubble) 8:00
West Va @ Texas 8:00
Florida State @ Wake Forest 8:00
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« Reply #92 on: February 15, 2014, 04:52:26 PM »
Iona vs Kentucky in Orlando

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« Reply #93 on: February 16, 2014, 05:04:08 AM »
Iona vs Kentucky in Orlando

don't kid yourself Baldi, you're sure to lose your conference tourney.

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« Reply #94 on: February 16, 2014, 10:20:10 PM »
We should all be rooting for Creighton for the rest of the regular season.  4 of their last 5 are against bubble teams / and all 5 are teams we can finish ahead of in the BE if we take care of business.

@ Marquette
VS SH
@ Xavier
@G Town
VS Providene
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Re: Bracketology
« Reply #95 on: February 17, 2014, 12:57:31 AM »
I think we slip into the First Four tomorrow. Shocked if we don't.

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« Reply #96 on: February 17, 2014, 04:31:20 AM »
#52 RPI   http://www.rpiforecast.com/live-rpi.html
#34 KenPom Ranking

Creiighton beating Nova was  huge for us and the conference.  Nova is still #5 in the RPI, but Creighton moved up to #8.  I'm sure they will move from #18 in the polls to somewhere  10-14.  That makes our  marquee win that much better. We need them to win out for many reasons...Nova as well, except against us.  Hopefully Nova stays in the top 10 in the polls.

Beat Butler Tuesday and the RPI will slide into the high-40's., passing the loser of the Baylor-OSU game and a few other teams. 
Left on the schedule for us:  #136 Butler, #5 Nova,  #124 Depaul, #41 Xavier, and #76 Marquette. 

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« Reply #97 on: February 17, 2014, 10:04:57 AM »
We need a win against Xavier and for them to stay in top 50.

3 Home wins and split road games puts us in a good spot.  I think 11-7 get us to the 3/4 spot in the league.  If we win one game in Big East tourney we slip in.  Despite all we've done still little margin for error.
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Re: Bracketology
« Reply #98 on: February 17, 2014, 10:22:47 AM »
Great way to start of a Monday that will be slow for me because of the holiday!!

http://insider.espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/10469704/bracketology-arizona-wildcats-hold-no-1-seed-loss-rundown-tournament-odds-college-basketball.

Last four byes
These teams are not on the immediate cut line for making the NCAA field, but they are on the bubble for a first-round bye and avoiding the First Four round in Dayton, Ohio.

Minnesota (60 percent)
Oklahoma State (60 percent)
Providence (55 percent)
Missouri (55 percent)

First Four pairings
March 18: BIG SOUTH/Coastal Carolina vs. SWAC/Alabama State (East, No. 16 seed)
March 18: Tennessee vs. Richmond(East, No. 11 seed)
March 19: BIG SKY/Weber State vs. WAC/Utah Valley (Midwest, No. 16 seed)
March 19: Saint Joseph's vs. St. John's (South, No. 12 seed)
 
LAST FOUR IN ODDS FIRST FOUR OUT ODDS NEXT FOUR OUT ODDS Tennessee 50%Richmond 20%Saint Joseph's 45% St. John's 45% Georgetown 40% BYU 35% West Virginia 40% Southern Miss 40% La. Tech 30% Dayton 30% Florida State 25% LSU 25%
LAST FOUR IN: These teams are being squeezed at both ends. They don't want to be caught from behind, of course, but they also want to move up and secure a first-round bye. Dayton is their most likely destination.

FIRST FOUR OUT: No matter how large the tournament field grows, this is always the grouping to avoid. Just remember that, a year ago, three of these four teams would have been on the "Next Four Out" list.

NEXT FOUR OUT: We'll talk about these teams (because we have to), but if your favorite is here, chances are they just aren't good enough. The three additional at-large spots keep them in the conversation, but they are Nos. 73-76 on the S-Curve.

NEW ARRIVALS RECORD ODDS OFF THE BOARD RECORD ODDS Missouri 18-7 55% Richmond 17-8 20%Saint Joseph's 17-7 45% St. John's 17-9 45% Middle Tennessee 19-7 AQ only Alabama State 14-9 AQ only Georgetown 15-10 40% West Virginia 15-11 40% Southern Miss 21-5 40% BYU 18-10 35% Florida State 15-10 25% Southern 14-11 DQ

Also considered: Baylor, Oregon, Nebraska, Marquette, N.C. State, Saint Mary's, Boise State, Ohio Note:  Southern U. is ineligible for postseason play.

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« Reply #99 on: February 17, 2014, 10:54:54 AM »
CBSSports and USA Today have us as one of the First Teams Out right now.