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There may well be a three way tie for third place in the conference. If SJU, Xavier and Providence tie, what is the tie breaker for the 3,4,5 seeds? Anyone know?

Quote from: loughlinguy on March 04, 2014, 10:24:50 AM

There may well be a three way tie for third place in the conference. If SJU, Xavier and Providence tie, what is the tie breaker for the 3,4,5 seeds? Anyone know?

Record vs. 1st seed, 2nd seed and so on down has been the only tiebreaker I've seen after head to heads

There may well be a three way tie for third place in the conference. If SJU, Xavier and Providence tie, what is the tie breaker for the 3,4,5 seeds? Anyone know?

Get to the BE final, at a minimum.  I think we need to win it, personally.   

Get to the BE final, at a minimum.  I think we need to win it, personally.   

No.. A loss to Marquette and the only way to get in is to win the tourney. Not enough quality wins.

Quote from: boo3 on March 04, 2014, 03:07:03 PM

No.. A loss to Marquette and the only way to get in is to win the tourney. Not enough quality wins.

In a normal season I agree with you.  But look at the resumes of the teams we're competing with.  The ones with multiple good wins have some pretty terrible losses [i.e. Georgetown (something - despite the opinions of all of us - SJU does not have)].  There are several teams with only 1 top 50 win on the bubble.  Go take a look at Pitt's schedule and tell me how many top 40 wins they have (I'll give you a hint, it's none) - and they're projected as a 9 seed right now.

Even with a loss to Marquette, making the finals would mean another top 70 RPI win in the first round and likely a top 15 win in the semis.  Obviously if that semifinal win comes agains anyone not named Villanova or Creighton, we would still have to win the tourney.  If it does, we would still be in.

A win against marquette and we simply just have to make the semis and not lose to depaul/butler in all likelihood.  Is it a guarantee?  No.  But that's how I, as well as the "expert" sees it.

We dont have bad losses? Penn State and Depaul arent in the RPI top 100. Those are bad losses. We have 1 win against the top 50 and only 5 against the top 100. Lets compare that to other teams on the bubble

IMO, and based on Linardi continuously flip flopping 3-5 Big East teams getting in the NCAA's, he believes the NCAA committee will choose between SJU and Providence as the 4th team to get in.  This is all based on Gtown not winning its last two and minimal upsets in other Conference Tourneys. 

I want SJU to play Prov in the first round because that is where many believe, should SJU win, will get the upper hand as the deciding W for the Tie breaker.  From there, game two of the Tourney, should they win, would be the game that keeps them shielded from getting knocked out by an upset somewhere else in another conf Tournament.  Should they win game one and lose game two, they will need help but i still believe they will get in. 

Just my opinion, but I am basing it off a lot of what i am seeing from Linardi's continual picks and quotes about the Johnnies.

Nothing has been breaking our way tonight.

Quote from: Moose on March 04, 2014, 10:37:19 AM

Quote from: loughlinguy on March 04, 2014, 10:24:50 AM

There may well be a three way tie for third place in the conference. If SJU, Xavier and Providence tie, what is the tie breaker for the 3,4,5 seeds? Anyone know?

Record vs. 1st seed, 2nd seed and so on down has been the only tiebreaker I've seen after head to heads

Wouldn't we lose the head to heads in a 3 way tie with X and PC?