Villanova Game 2

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Nice try... in the end, too many second chances for Nova...  Lucky bank shot 3.   Harrison not willing to take big shot... Phil choking, and traveling

I dont think it has anything to do with him not "willing" to take the big shot. He made a very good pass.

It was a great pass. Greene should have went straight up with it. He didn't even look at the basket. That's one of the problems with some of our players, they are to indecisive. They played hard though, need to win Tuesday.

Was a good reactionary pass but it really did put Greene in a bad spot there. Not Harrison's fault but would have been a tough shot for Greene.

Thought Greene was open for a lay up if he went straight up with it. Tough shot, maybe, but the opening was there on the catch.

Harrison had to make that pass but if you watch it again Greene would have been going up against Ochefu I think

I thought Harrison had a good look at that elbow jumper, no?

He was going up for it when he saw Greene break loose, right idea, wrong person cutting to basket.

Yeah as bad as Dom played today that would have been a good spot for him to be in instead of Greene. He would have at least gotten fouled

Or Sampson, but neither are great foul shooters, trust Dom more

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Nice try... in the end, too many second chances for Nova...  Lucky bank shot 3.   Harrison not willing to take big shot... Phil choking, and traveling

I dont think it has anything to do with him not "willing" to take the big shot. He made a very good pass.

It was a great pass. Greene should have went straight up with it. He didn't even look at the basket. That's one of the problems with some of our players, they are to indecisive. They played hard though, need to win Tuesday.

Was a good reactionary pass but it really did put Greene in a bad spot there. Not Harrison's fault but would have been a tough shot for Greene.

Thought Greene was open for a lay up if he went straight up with it. Tough shot, maybe, but the opening was there on the catch.

Harrison had to make that pass but if you watch it again Greene would have been going up against Ochefu I think

I thought Harrison had a good look at that elbow jumper, no?

He was going up for it when he saw Greene break loose, right idea, wrong person cutting to basket.

Yeah as bad as Dom played today that would have been a good spot for him to be in instead of Greene. He would have at least gotten fouled

Or missed the dunk and hang on the rim while attempting to tip it back in..

I thought Lavin coached a good game today.

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Nice try... in the end, too many second chances for Nova...  Lucky bank shot 3.   Harrison not willing to take big shot... Phil choking, and traveling

I dont think it has anything to do with him not "willing" to take the big shot. He made a very good pass.

It was a great pass. Greene should have went straight up with it. He didn't even look at the basket. That's one of the problems with some of our players, they are to indecisive. They played hard though, need to win Tuesday.

Was a good reactionary pass but it really did put Greene in a bad spot there. Not Harrison's fault but would have been a tough shot for Greene.

Thought Greene was open for a lay up if he went straight up with it. Tough shot, maybe, but the opening was there on the catch.

Harrison had to make that pass but if you watch it again Greene would have been going up against Ochefu I think

I thought Harrison had a good look at that elbow jumper, no?

He was going up for it when he saw Greene break loose, right idea, wrong person cutting to basket.

Yeah as bad as Dom played today that would have been a good spot for him to be in instead of Greene. He would have at least gotten fouled

Or missed the dunk and hang on the rim while attempting to tip it back in..

If basketball IQ was a class Pointer would need to cheat to pass

I thought Lavin coached a good game today.

Agreed, you can always debate the would've, could've, and should've, but the team had a chance to win and just couldn't get it done.

I thought Lavin coached a good game today.

Wasn't bad. I thought he gave Dom too much time and Branch not enough. Also don't know why CO wasn't in the game with 4 minutes left when Nova got 4 straight offensive rebounds and had the ball for over 2 minutes

Quote from: we are sju on February 22, 2014, 04:40:51 PM

I thought Lavin coached a good game today.

Wasn't bad. I thought he gave Dom too much time and Branch not enough. Also don't know why CO wasn't in the game with 4 minutes left when Nova got 4 straight offensive rebounds and had the ball for over 2 minutes

Branch needs to get stronger, guys were putting him on their hip and just taking him to the basket. Happened like 3 times in a row at one point at that is why he didn't get much run IMO

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Nice try... in the end, too many second chances for Nova...  Lucky bank shot 3.   Harrison not willing to take big shot... Phil choking, and traveling

I dont think it has anything to do with him not "willing" to take the big shot. He made a very good pass.

It was a great pass. Greene should have went straight up with it. He didn't even look at the basket. That's one of the problems with some of our players, they are to indecisive. They played hard though, need to win Tuesday.

Was a good reactionary pass but it really did put Greene in a bad spot there. Not Harrison's fault but would have been a tough shot for Greene.

Thought Greene was open for a lay up if he went straight up with it. Tough shot, maybe, but the opening was there on the catch.

Harrison had to make that pass but if you watch it again Greene would have been going up against Ochefu I think

I thought Harrison had a good look at that elbow jumper, no?

He was going up for it when he saw Greene break loose, right idea, wrong person cutting to basket.

Yeah as bad as Dom played today that would have been a good spot for him to be in instead of Greene. He would have at least gotten fouled

Or missed the dunk and hang on the rim while attempting to tip it back in..

If basketball IQ was a class Pointer would need to cheat to pass

Well, if his schedule was basketball IQ, hustle, rebounding, and dribbling...he'd be screwed.
I've never seen a kid do what he did today for the tech.  It was blatant and childish.  It was a four point swing and could have easily been six or seven.  It doesn't even show up in the stats.

Tough game.  Ugly Big East game...physical.  Archie was awesome off screens all night and they really set some nice ones for him.  Both teams were busting their arses...10 guys on the court and nine of them were diving for lose ball and going after boards.  Unfortunately the one that wasn't was wearing a St. John's uniform. 

As much as it killed me they need to throw this one out and get ready for Tuesday. Need these last three wins.

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Nice try... in the end, too many second chances for Nova...  Lucky bank shot 3.   Harrison not willing to take big shot... Phil choking, and traveling

I dont think it has anything to do with him not "willing" to take the big shot. He made a very good pass.

It was a great pass. Greene should have went straight up with it. He didn't even look at the basket. That's one of the problems with some of our players, they are to indecisive. They played hard though, need to win Tuesday.

Was a good reactionary pass but it really did put Greene in a bad spot there. Not Harrison's fault but would have been a tough shot for Greene.

Thought Greene was open for a lay up if he went straight up with it. Tough shot, maybe, but the opening was there on the catch.

Harrison had to make that pass but if you watch it again Greene would have been going up against Ochefu I think

I thought Harrison had a good look at that elbow jumper, no?

He was going up for it when he saw Greene break loose, right idea, wrong person cutting to basket.

Yeah as bad as Dom played today that would have been a good spot for him to be in instead of Greene. He would have at least gotten fouled

Or missed the dunk and hang on the rim while attempting to tip it back in..

If basketball IQ was a class Pointer would need to cheat to pass

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Nice try... in the end, too many second chances for Nova...  Lucky bank shot 3.   Harrison not willing to take big shot... Phil choking, and traveling

I dont think it has anything to do with him not "willing" to take the big shot. He made a very good pass.

It was a great pass. Greene should have went straight up with it. He didn't even look at the basket. That's one of the problems with some of our players, they are to indecisive. They played hard though, need to win Tuesday.

Was a good reactionary pass but it really did put Greene in a bad spot there. Not Harrison's fault but would have been a tough shot for Greene.

Thought Greene was open for a lay up if he went straight up with it. Tough shot, maybe, but the opening was there on the catch.

Harrison had to make that pass but if you watch it again Greene would have been going up against Ochefu I think

Nope. Ochefu was on the strong side, he was going up against Bell who still had the size advantage but at that point I thought Greene had the advantage with his momentum and all eyes were on Harrison. It had to happen immediately on the catch, he pumped faked instead then had nowhere to go with it.

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Nice try... in the end, too many second chances for Nova...  Lucky bank shot 3.   Harrison not willing to take big shot... Phil choking, and traveling

I dont think it has anything to do with him not "willing" to take the big shot. He made a very good pass.

It was a great pass. Greene should have went straight up with it. He didn't even look at the basket. That's one of the problems with some of our players, they are to indecisive. They played hard though, need to win Tuesday.

Was a good reactionary pass but it really did put Greene in a bad spot there. Not Harrison's fault but would have been a tough shot for Greene.

Thought Greene was open for a lay up if he went straight up with it. Tough shot, maybe, but the opening was there on the catch.

Harrison had to make that pass but if you watch it again Greene would have been going up against Ochefu I think

Nope. Ochefu was on the strong side, he was going up against Bell who still had the size advantage but at that point I thought Greene had the advantage with his momentum and all eyes were on Harrison. It had to happen immediately on the catch, he pumped faked instead then had nowhere to go with it.

It was Bell?. Either way, my 1st reaction when he made the pass was "nice pass!" then I didn't have confidence in Greene going up strong there.

Missed Papa's 7 rebounds per game--we will get the Lox (Nova is a lox) in the BE tournament. 

Papa now has an extra mouth to feed and will be looking towards the future in his "Job interviews" which are our remaining games--needs to produce to secure the future which hopefully is a BIG motivating factor 

Shocked at the huge turnover late by the man least likely to turn the ball over in the entire conference.  He should have gone straight up with the shot.  Disappointing that an afternoon that started with such promise,  the two huge 3's,  ended in such an unlikely manner.

Heart breaking how we had so many chances to take the lead down the stretch and couldn't get it done.  Archidiadkdkdik lucky banked three was brutal as well.

There was not a large margin separating us and the #9 team in the nation.  Xavier on Tues. obviously a huge game for us.

I thought Lavin coached a good game today.

Agree, was especially impressed with him putting in Max and Marco late when we needed a 3 and than CO and GG when we needed a rebound. Seems simple and obvious but a lot of coaches don't think that fast in tense end of game situations.

Quote from: we are sju on February 22, 2014, 04:40:51 PM

I thought Lavin coached a good game today.

Wasn't bad. I thought he gave Dom too much time and Branch not enough. Also don't know why CO wasn't in the game with 4 minutes left when Nova got 4 straight offensive rebounds and had the ball for over 2 minutes

I was wondering this too especially when there were so many timeouts where SJU came out of dead ball on defense.

I would have also put in Gift in at the end of the first half.

Tough game. Nova kept leaving it open but SJU didn't have enough to close.

Jordan was good early but pressed late. Harrison, Sampson, Greene were all ice cold. Obekpa on the bench late was puzzling. Pointer made too many bonehead plays.

I thought Lavin messed up by not calling a TO when Dom was dribbling up the court with under 15 secs then calls TO after ball goes out of bounds.

Difference in the game was the bank shot 3 pointer. Dumb luck.

Quote from: Tha Kid on February 22, 2014, 04:01:47 PM

This game came down to the 3-4 offnsive possessions we had in a row, tied, coming out of the 8 min tv timeout.  We had multiple chances to take a lead and could not convert.   Then nova comes down and hits a 3. 

This is a game we should have won.

I think we should have tried branch in w dangelo and rysheed more than we did. Higher bball iq out there and better movememnt and passing if branch had gotten some additional burn over greene or sirdom....

Counldnt agree more about Branch, sir dom has the lowest IQ ive ever seen. I almost kicked my dog when he fould ochefu at half court with 3 seconds left on the shot clock.

Branch needs minutes, the offense was very stagnant in the second half.

That play by Dom pissed me off to no end.  I just posted like two days ago that when we are down at the end of games Dom will foul someone with under 10 seconds on the shot clock  at least once.  I can't stand when players do that.  If you are going to foul, do it right away. 

And the lack of hustle Dom displayed by failing to get that rebound...maddening.  Any other player on the floor on either team would have gotten the ball in his situation. 

I really think there are dozens of coaches across the country that Dom wouldn't make it through a single practice with.  But here he's Costco...dumb decisions and uninspired play sold in bulk.

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Nice try... in the end, too many second chances for Nova...  Lucky bank shot 3.   Harrison not willing to take big shot... Phil choking, and traveling

I dont think it has anything to do with him not "willing" to take the big shot. He made a very good pass.

It was a great pass. Greene should have went straight up with it. He didn't even look at the basket. That's one of the problems with some of our players, they are to indecisive. They played hard though, need to win Tuesday.

Was a good reactionary pass but it really did put Greene in a bad spot there. Not Harrison's fault but would have been a tough shot for Greene.

Thought Greene was open for a lay up if he went straight up with it. Tough shot, maybe, but the opening was there on the catch.

Harrison had to make that pass but if you watch it again Greene would have been going up against Ochefu I think

I thought Harrison had a good look at that elbow jumper, no?

If Harrison had to do it again, he would shoot it.  He's got such good vision and I think he was going to shoot when he saw Greene get open and just reacted.  Greene should have just went straight up, but it wasn't an easy shot with all the size Nova had down there. 

Harrisons #s were awful, but his effort was there all game and that is why we were in this until the end.  Jordan and Harrison just compete. 

Great #$%^ing game