Amir Garrett - SF - Findlay Prep - Las Vegas, NV - ST. JOHN'S

Well let me see how many professional teams are located in SEC territory. Now the Basketball and Baseball team could sign the football player and soon the conference would be back to team with 120 student(?) football players per school. Do you think that Texas  and Texas A&M would be left out.

I think a similar situation happened with CJ Henry (xaviers brother) at Kansas. He was drafted by the Yankees and they paid for his schooling but he was considered a walk on on the basketball team if i remember correctly

I think a similar situation happened with CJ Henry (xaviers brother) at Kansas. He was drafted by the Yankees and they paid for his schooling but he was considered a walk on on the basketball team if i remember correctly

Henry was a little different because he played baseball and the Yankees were willing to pay after his baseball career.  When he quit after 3-4 yrs he went to play college ball.  Also not sure but maybe because Amir originally signed and LOI it might change things.  Where when Henry was picking a school he didn't need to because he already had the $ from the Yankees and knew he could walk on.

Could Garrett already have been guaranteed a scholarship from us for this year, and maybe the following years be a walk-on?

I'm not sure whether or not St. John's is required to count him against the ships.  But there are benefits of being on scholarship like eating meals with the team.  We have ships available for this year so why not use it.  Perhaps if we have someone ready to commit next year Garrett could waive those benefits. 

I have a feeling the Reds will be pushing him to make baseball his No. 1 priority well before he's scheduled to graduate, so I'm not expecting to see him after his sophomore year.

I think a similar situation happened with CJ Henry (xaviers brother) at Kansas. He was drafted by the Yankees and they paid for his schooling but he was considered a walk on on the basketball team if i remember correctly

That was also the case a few years ago at Duke - Trajan Langdon played off season minor league ball with his schooling paid for under the baseball contract.  Coach K had an extra scholie for 4 years....

I have a feeling the Reds will be pushing him to make baseball his No. 1 priority well before he's scheduled to graduate, so I'm not expecting to see him after his sophomore year.

And yet the signing bonus is paid over 5 seasons....a decent little annual incentive to RETURN to St. Johns each year. 

Methinks this will have less to do with what baseball "wants", and more with how he progresses on the hardwood and the mound over the next few years...

Amir take the roughly 200k and make sure you put away at least 75k a year in the bank. You can still live large with the other money but make sure you save

Amir take the roughly 200k and make sure you put away at least 75k a year in the bank. You can still live large with the other money but make sure you save

Great advice. Amir, don't blow all your money on cocaine, hookers, and midget porn like I did.

Quote from: mjmaherjr on August 17, 2011, 11:43:59 PM

Amir take the roughly 200k and make sure you put away at least 75k a year in the bank. You can still live large with the other money but make sure you save

Great advice. Amir, don't blow all your money on cocaine, hookers, and midget porn like I did.

Yeah, the midget porn is just gratuitous...

Quote from: STJ11Redmen on August 17, 2011, 03:50:43 PM

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Does that make any sense to anyone?    If his schooling is being paid for by the Reds, why in the world would he still count towards the 13 scholies?   Or does it mean the Reds are simply paying everything not covered by the scholie?  That hardly seems like its even writing into a contract with the supposed value of Amirs....

Actually, it makes perfect sense as it prevents schools / boosters from using not so organized pro teams (independent / semi-pro leagues) to circumvent the # of scholarship rules.

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Quote from: STJ11Redmen on August 17, 2011, 03:50:43 PM

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Does that make any sense to anyone?    If his schooling is being paid for by the Reds, why in the world would he still count towards the 13 scholies?   Or does it mean the Reds are simply paying everything not covered by the scholie?  That hardly seems like its even writing into a contract with the supposed value of Amirs....

Actually, it makes perfect sense as it prevents schools / boosters from using not so organized pro teams (independent / semi-pro leagues) to circumvent the # of scholarship rules.

Independent and semi pro teams?  They can barely make their own payroll as is.

Quote from: LJSA on August 17, 2011, 10:23:13 PM

I have a feeling the Reds will be pushing him to make baseball his No. 1 priority well before he's scheduled to graduate, so I'm not expecting to see him after his sophomore year.

And yet the signing bonus is paid over 5 seasons....a decent little annual incentive to RETURN to St. Johns each year. 

Methinks this will have less to do with what baseball "wants", and more with how he progresses on the hardwood and the mound over the next few years...

I dont know how spreading the Bonus over 5 years gives him incentive to return to SJU ?
If anything its for tax & cash flow reasons, & enticing him to not give up minor league ball.
Also if Amir decides to give up Baseball for Hoops,  Reds save the unpaid years possibly ?

Either way, I agree his progress in each sport will prob determine his path in 2 years.

This is off topic, but does anyone know why some teams like Duke and Georgetown are allowed to play overseas right now with their coaches present? I though you had to wait for October when regular practices can be held? I wish St. John's would've gone to China like Duke did because these kids can use all the time they can get on and off the court together to gel.

This is off topic, but does anyone know why some teams like Duke and Georgetown are allowed to play overseas right now with their coaches present? I though you had to wait for October when regular practices can be held? I wish St. John's would've gone to China like Duke did because these kids can use all the time they can get on and off the court together to gel.

For a kick, look at the thread i put up of Georgetown vs china...

This is off topic, but does anyone know why some teams like Duke and Georgetown are allowed to play overseas right now with their coaches present? I though you had to wait for October when regular practices can be held? I wish St. John's would've gone to China like Duke did because these kids can use all the time they can get on and off the court together to gel.

I think .... teams are allowed to travel preseason out of the country, like once every 4 years or so.  StJ was supposed to go somewhere south of the border a few years back, but there was a storm, and the trip was cancelled, although the team did get a limited number of practices out of it.

It looks like the Hoyas are getting more sparring practice rather than basketball practice.

http://www.ballinisahabit.net/2011/08/georgetown-brawls-in-china.html

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/dc-sports-bog/post/photos-of-georgetown-brawl-in-china/2011/08/18/gIQApHsVNJ_blog.html.

Our Cancun trip Labor Day weekend 3 years ago (Sept 2008) was cancelled

If I remember 10 practices with coaches were allowed- BUT FROSH were not allowed to practice till classes started.
One international trip every 4 years means they can go in 2012

Our Cancun trip Labor Day weekend 3 years ago (Sept 2008) was cancelled

If I remember 10 practices with coaches were allowed- BUT FROSH were not allowed to practice till classes started.
One international trip every 4 years means they can go in 2012

So the Duke freshman can't play in China?