Moe and the 2012 Draft

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Re: Moe and the 2012 Draft
« Reply #900 on: June 28, 2012, 10:47:10 PM »
I think he'll be an extremely good shooter.  He had fine trajectory and motion.  I think most of his shooting problem was lack of wrist follow through.  When he came to SJU he would pop outside shots he'd feather his fingers and still have his fingers pointed to the ceiling.  I noticed that during his draft workout videos, he has really worked to correct his wrist follow-through and it certainly helped. It looked much more crisp when he released the ball.  I think it started to improve second half of season, but he needs lots more reps.

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Re: Moe and the 2012 Draft
« Reply #901 on: June 28, 2012, 11:31:28 PM »
Oh man. Serious. One of the Plums?

As a Duke alum and fan....you are absolutely right about miles.  Supreme height and athleticism (one of the best verts of allll players, not jsut bigs) but the guy averaged 6 and 6 as a senior at duke.  Low bball iq and just makes dumb plays.  Hell either be end of bench guy for long time, or leave to europe in a few years, depending on how much he improves.

Mason on the other hand will be worthy of a late first round pick next year.  Hes got much more skill and basketball smarts than miles. 

Fab Melo is the big man who didnt deserve a first round pick....unfort by my celtics.  D'oh! Though ill givr danny a reprieve cuz the sullinger pick was great.
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Re: Moe and the 2012 Draft
« Reply #902 on: June 28, 2012, 11:32:29 PM »
Cngrats to Moe!  Got a good young team and gets to play pretty close to home.  Cant wait to see him play in the NBA!
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Re: Moe and the 2012 Draft
« Reply #903 on: June 29, 2012, 06:50:46 AM »
Congrats to Mo and his family. Really happy to see him go that high and to Philly.  Would have been happy with him going to any team but Boston.  Looking forward to catching a Knicks v Philly game

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Re: Moe and the 2012 Draft
« Reply #904 on: June 29, 2012, 07:32:54 AM »
Hey Marillac,

Just wanted to let you know that Moe went 23 picks before your boy Quincy Miller who should have stayed in school - like all of his Baylor teammates.  Maurice Harkless is the superior prospect in the eyes of NBA GMs. Go st johns!
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Re: Moe and the 2012 Draft
« Reply #905 on: June 29, 2012, 09:06:26 AM »
“@QSTJHoops: Moe Harkless on the front page of http://t.co/kQyMtQLs this morning. #stjbb http://t.co/LEfZj7Ja

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Re: Moe and the 2012 Draft
« Reply #906 on: June 29, 2012, 10:19:51 AM »
Congrats to Mo and his family. Really happy to see him go that high and to Philly.  Would have been happy with him going to any team but Boston.  Looking forward to catching a Knicks v Philly game

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Re: Moe and the 2012 Draft
« Reply #907 on: June 29, 2012, 11:01:27 AM »
Nice article that also notes SJU still in it w Whitehead, Mc Cullough and Lawrence. Zach does a great job covering local hoops!

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Re: Moe and the 2012 Draft
« Reply #908 on: June 29, 2012, 11:14:29 AM »
“@QSTJHoops: Moe Harkless on the front page of http://t.co/kQyMtQLs this morning. #stjbb http://t.co/LEfZj7Ja

The SI article is great.  Puts Philly as one of the three top winners of the draft, in large part because they "stole" the raw but extremely talented Harkless.  Can't buy better pr for the program than that!

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Re: Moe and the 2012 Draft
« Reply #909 on: June 29, 2012, 11:29:43 AM »
“@QSTJHoops: Moe Harkless on the front page of http://t.co/kQyMtQLs this morning. #stjbb http://t.co/LEfZj7Ja

The SI article is great.  Puts Philly as one of the three top winners of the draft, in large part because they "stole" the raw but extremely talented Harkless.  Can't buy better pr for the program than that!

To be fair I think they were a winner in their eyes by also nabbing Moultrie.  If they just got Harkless I don't think they fall in there.
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Re: Moe and the 2012 Draft
« Reply #910 on: June 29, 2012, 11:40:15 AM »
“@QSTJHoops: Moe Harkless on the front page of http://t.co/kQyMtQLs this morning. #stjbb http://t.co/LEfZj7Ja

The SI article is great.  Puts Philly as one of the three top winners of the draft, in large part because they "stole" the raw but extremely talented Harkless.  Can't buy better pr for the program than that!

To be fair I think they were a winner in their eyes by also nabbing Moultrie.  If they just got Harkless I don't think they fall in there.

True Moose, but Harkless was the headliner.  :)


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Re: Moe and the 2012 Draft
« Reply #911 on: June 29, 2012, 11:44:32 AM »
 In typical Philly fashion...they hate the pick. Comments , as usual, are great.  The Philadelphia Tweeners...lol


 http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/sixers/20120629_John_Smallwood__Harkless_doesn_t_meet_Sixers__needs__but_Moultrie_might_be_the_answer.html?jCount=2&#comments

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Re: Moe and the 2012 Draft
« Reply #912 on: June 29, 2012, 04:20:13 PM »
“@QSTJHoops: Moe Harkless on the front page of http://t.co/kQyMtQLs this morning. #stjbb http://t.co/LEfZj7Ja

The SI article is great.  Puts Philly as one of the three top winners of the draft, in large part because they "stole" the raw but extremely talented Harkless.  Can't buy better pr for the program than that!

To be fair I think they were a winner in their eyes by also nabbing Moultrie.  If they just got Harkless I don't think they fall in there.

The SI article is GREAT???   Could someone explain how Charlotte landing the 2nd best player int he draft (MKG) AND Jeff Taylor (who THEY refer to as a great two-way talent and one of the best athletes in the entire draft) rates only a B+, while the Bulls landing ONLY Marquis Teague rates an A?   Or how they give the KNICKS an "A" with only  Kostas Papanikolaou in maybe two years to show for the draft? Or the Kings getting an "A" with only Thomas Robinson (fine player - but sort of a push witht he Bobcat pick of MKG, but the Bobcats also land Taylor and score LOWER)??? Or OKC with an "A" for Perry Jones - did ANYONE have Jones better than MKG, even BEFORE they knew he had a bod knee??? Or the Griz get the same B+ as Charlotte while landing only Tony Wroten (who THEY say MIGHT be a good guard "if he can learn to shoot the ball and make good decisions" - if he can't shoot or make good decisions now, how is that a B+ pick???),  Or the Spurs notiching also notching a "B+", apparently meaning in SI's eyes Marcus Denmon > MKG AND Jeff Taylor? OR the Nets getting a "B" for landing a backup to backup Jordan Farmar, and two Euros who may never come to the US?   OR how he Heat rate a "B" for landing....Justin Hamilton?   The TWolves a B for getting...ROBBIE HUMMELL?

I can SEE Philly landing the same B+ as Charlotte - I think a case could be made for Mo/Moutrie being a push with MKG/Taylor.   But the rest of that article is a freaking MESS.

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Re: Moe and the 2012 Draft
« Reply #913 on: June 29, 2012, 04:27:53 PM »
“@QSTJHoops: Moe Harkless on the front page of http://t.co/kQyMtQLs this morning. #stjbb http://t.co/LEfZj7Ja

The SI article is great.  Puts Philly as one of the three top winners of the draft, in large part because they "stole" the raw but extremely talented Harkless.  Can't buy better pr for the program than that!

To be fair I think they were a winner in their eyes by also nabbing Moultrie.  If they just got Harkless I don't think they fall in there.

The SI article is GREAT???   Could someone explain how Charlotte landing the 2nd best player int he draft (MKG) AND Jeff Taylor (who THEY refer to as a great two-way talent and one of the best athletes in the entire draft) rates only a B+, while the Bulls landing ONLY Marquis Teague rates an A?   Or how they give the KNICKS an "A" with only  Kostas Papanikolaou in maybe two years to show for the draft? Or the Kings getting an "A" with only Thomas Robinson (fine player - but sort of a push witht he Bobcat pick of MKG, but the Bobcats also land Taylor and score LOWER)??? Or OKC with an "A" for Perry Jones - did ANYONE have Jones better than MKG, even BEFORE they knew he had a bod knee??? Or the Griz get the same B+ as Charlotte while landing only Tony Wroten (who THEY say MIGHT be a good guard "if he can learn to shoot the ball and make good decisions" - if he can't shoot or make good decisions now, how is that a B+ pick???),  Or the Spurs notiching also notching a "B+", apparently meaning in SI's eyes Marcus Denmon > MKG AND Jeff Taylor? OR the Nets getting a "B" for landing a backup to backup Jordan Farmar, and two Euros who may never come to the US?   OR how he Heat rate a "B" for landing....Justin Hamilton?   The TWolves a B for getting...ROBBIE HUMMELL?

I can SEE Philly landing the same B+ as Charlotte - I think a case could be made for Mo/Moutrie being a push with MKG/Taylor.   But the rest of that article is a freaking MESS.

Thank you for quoting me and ranting when I never said the article was great.
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Re: Moe and the 2012 Draft
« Reply #914 on: June 29, 2012, 04:36:24 PM »
Nice article that also notes SJU still in it w Whitehead, Mc Cullough and Lawrence. Zach does a great job covering local hoops!

“@NYPost_Brazille: Braziller: Harkless perfect example for city stars http://t.co/or96Nj0u via @newyorkpost”
You're right. Zach does an excellent job



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Re: Moe and the 2012 Draft
« Reply #915 on: June 29, 2012, 04:51:31 PM »
“@QSTJHoops: Moe Harkless on the front page of http://t.co/kQyMtQLs this morning. #stjbb http://t.co/LEfZj7Ja

The SI article is great.  Puts Philly as one of the three top winners of the draft, in large part because they "stole" the raw but extremely talented Harkless.  Can't buy better pr for the program than that!

To be fair I think they were a winner in their eyes by also nabbing Moultrie.  If they just got Harkless I don't think they fall in there.

The SI article is GREAT???   Could someone explain how Charlotte landing the 2nd best player int he draft (MKG) AND Jeff Taylor (who THEY refer to as a great two-way talent and one of the best athletes in the entire draft) rates only a B+, while the Bulls landing ONLY Marquis Teague rates an A?   Or how they give the KNICKS an "A" with only  Kostas Papanikolaou in maybe two years to show for the draft? Or the Kings getting an "A" with only Thomas Robinson (fine player - but sort of a push witht he Bobcat pick of MKG, but the Bobcats also land Taylor and score LOWER)??? Or OKC with an "A" for Perry Jones - did ANYONE have Jones better than MKG, even BEFORE they knew he had a bod knee??? Or the Griz get the same B+ as Charlotte while landing only Tony Wroten (who THEY say MIGHT be a good guard "if he can learn to shoot the ball and make good decisions" - if he can't shoot or make good decisions now, how is that a B+ pick???),  Or the Spurs notiching also notching a "B+", apparently meaning in SI's eyes Marcus Denmon > MKG AND Jeff Taylor? OR the Nets getting a "B" for landing a backup to backup Jordan Farmar, and two Euros who may never come to the US?   OR how he Heat rate a "B" for landing....Justin Hamilton?   The TWolves a B for getting...ROBBIE HUMMELL?

I can SEE Philly landing the same B+ as Charlotte - I think a case could be made for Mo/Moutrie being a push with MKG/Taylor.   But the rest of that article is a freaking MESS.

Did you even read the SI article?    Obviously it was based on who was available and the situation specific to each team.   Otherwise, the argument could be made on talent alone New Orleans won the draft and everyone else failed.   

The Heat for example, get a "B" because they can't afford to take on a first round guaranteed contract... so they traded the pick, got a future 1st rounder down the line, a 2nd rounder next year, and a potential backup center at a decent price.    Not because Justin Hamilton = Jeremy Lamb, Royce White, and Terrence Jones.   (the draft picks for the Rockets who also got a "B")

No one is saying Marcus Denmon is better than Glichrist alone, let alone Gilchrist and Jeff Taylor.   
If you're going to rant, at least acknowledge that the grades for the article are based on situational value, not objective talent obtained.   'Come on man.   You're better than that.
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Re: Moe and the 2012 Draft
« Reply #916 on: June 29, 2012, 05:32:37 PM »
“@QSTJHoops: Moe Harkless on the front page of http://t.co/kQyMtQLs this morning. #stjbb http://t.co/LEfZj7Ja

The SI article is great.  Puts Philly as one of the three top winners of the draft, in large part because they "stole" the raw but extremely talented Harkless.  Can't buy better pr for the program than that!

To be fair I think they were a winner in their eyes by also nabbing Moultrie.  If they just got Harkless I don't think they fall in there.

The SI article is GREAT???   Could someone explain how Charlotte landing the 2nd best player int he draft (MKG) AND Jeff Taylor (who THEY refer to as a great two-way talent and one of the best athletes in the entire draft) rates only a B+, while the Bulls landing ONLY Marquis Teague rates an A?   Or how they give the KNICKS an "A" with only  Kostas Papanikolaou in maybe two years to show for the draft? Or the Kings getting an "A" with only Thomas Robinson (fine player - but sort of a push witht he Bobcat pick of MKG, but the Bobcats also land Taylor and score LOWER)??? Or OKC with an "A" for Perry Jones - did ANYONE have Jones better than MKG, even BEFORE they knew he had a bod knee??? Or the Griz get the same B+ as Charlotte while landing only Tony Wroten (who THEY say MIGHT be a good guard "if he can learn to shoot the ball and make good decisions" - if he can't shoot or make good decisions now, how is that a B+ pick???),  Or the Spurs notiching also notching a "B+", apparently meaning in SI's eyes Marcus Denmon > MKG AND Jeff Taylor? OR the Nets getting a "B" for landing a backup to backup Jordan Farmar, and two Euros who may never come to the US?   OR how he Heat rate a "B" for landing....Justin Hamilton?   The TWolves a B for getting...ROBBIE HUMMELL?

I can SEE Philly landing the same B+ as Charlotte - I think a case could be made for Mo/Moutrie being a push with MKG/Taylor.   But the rest of that article is a freaking MESS.

Um, when I said the article was great, it was only meant in the context of how SI was giving Philly high grades for drafting Moe, hence great for SJU and Moe that such positive publicity was being generated by SI's article.  Moose then pointed out that Moultrie was a big part of Philly's drafting grade, and I think he's right.  Sorry for the confusion.  I obviously should have been more specific about what I thought was "great" about the article.
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Re: Moe and the 2012 Draft
« Reply #917 on: June 29, 2012, 05:56:52 PM »
Will never root against Moe even though he will wear an opposition uniform.  will be at the Barclay to see him this year.  Being selected by a fine talent evaluator as Rod Thorn is a compliment.

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Re: Moe and the 2012 Draft
« Reply #919 on: June 30, 2012, 04:51:42 PM »
Nice article that also notes SJU still in it w Whitehead, Mc Cullough and Lawrence. Zach does a great job covering local hoops!

“@NYPost_Brazille: Braziller: Harkless perfect example for city stars http://t.co/or96Nj0u via @newyorkpost”
You're right. Zach does an excellent job

Hasn't Whitehead's mom stated she wants him to stay close?  This article should be sent right to her.