So how many games do you think end up on campus v at MSG?
Gotta figure Seton Hall, USF, and Depaul are probably on campus. Rest should be at MSG right?
It will be interesting though, because we haven't played Rutgers at MSG in awhile. They've usually been on campus. But in years past we typically only play 2-3 conference games at CA. 4 would be a lot.
Depending on the dates the Garden has available since again its a late start for them this year I would say 2 on campus rest at MSG
They are going to play USF and Rutgers or SHU at MSG??? They won't draw flies for those games.
Remember in Lavin's first year, 2010-11, they played 4 of the 9 at Carnesecca. USF, DePaul, Rutgers and Cincy. So it is not unusual.
It has to do with dates available primarily. And then you deal with past success. Lavin's 1st yr was after how many years it resembled a morgue. With both Garden teams having a late start due to construction again dates will be at a premium. I can see us playing Rutgers or Hall there without question. Thats not that far from a possibility as you make it seem. DePaul and USF are very safe bets for CA.
I disagree a little. I think it has a lot to do with the traditional opponents and then perhaps the non-traditional opponents who are projected to have good years. Last year the breakdown was 7-2. But that is largely due to SHU, RU and USF were all road games. ND, Georgetown, Villanova, Syracuse and Louisville are teams you will NEVER see at Carnesecca. Throw in UCONN when SJU gets them at home in that category. West Virginia has had a lot of success recently under Huggins so they played at MSG the last few years. That leaves Cincy. But Cincy was projected to be a top 6 team in the BE last year. Providence and DePaul were considered bottom feeders so they get Carnesecca.
I could be wrong but of the 4 teams that I could see at Carnesecca next year: USF, RU, SHU and DePaul, I am going to guess you will get at least 3 of them. Perhaps USF graduates because they made the NCAA's and people think they are worthy.
We rent the Garden. We want more games there because its more $. So while they are not strong tradition teams, provided we don't have a bone to pick like with Hall and Gonzo, we would prefer to play at MSG. Its just not so cut and dry. The other factor is TV and usually we like getting on TV so lots of 12pm weekend games so Garden can still flip to NYR or Knicks but again lots of factors.
I agree there are other factors but I think my formula has been consistent over the years with a few exceptions.
Norm's last year, 2009-10, the breakdown was 5-4 again. The five MSG opponents were Cincy (projected to be an NCAA team but collapsed at the end of the year and settled for the NIT), West Virginia, Nova, Louisville and Pitt. 4 Carnesecca: Marquette (overachieved-Picked I believe 13th that year and finished 12-6 in BE), Providence, SHU and DePaul. So if you flip Cincy with Marquette you get the same breakdown. 5 MSG opponents all made the NCAA's, 4 Carnesecca opponents all missed the NCAA's. But again Cincy was projected to be higher then Marquette that year.
Interesting because Cincy was projected the following year to take a hit with the loss of Lance and Vaughn and they ended up being better. But based on that Cincy was put at Carnesecca for the 2010-11 season after being at MSG the prior year.