Big East could vote to dissolve

“@DavidWoods007: Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel reporting Xavier & Butler will leave A-10, join Big East's Catholic 7 in unnamed league.”

“@DavidWoods007: A college basketball insider cautions that Xavier/#Butler to new league with Catholic 7 not done. So stay tuned.”

This guy covers Butler for Indy Star.

Oh goody.  Back and forth tweets. 

Marquette's new basketball-centric athletic conference will include 10 or 12 teams, have a reasonable television contract and rotating sites for its league tournament, according to university sources.

The Golden Eagles will join six other former members of the Big East: Georgetown, St. John's, Providence, DePaul, Seton Hall and Villanova. Butler and Xavier will leave the Atlantic 10 to join the new unnamed league.

Creighton, Virginia Commonwealth, Dayton or St. Louis could become the 10th team, or the conference could begin play with 12 teams if three schools vying for the 10th spot are all worthy candidates.

The decision to form the new league has already been made, according to MU sources. The only holdup is Georgetown President John J. DeGioia, who is struggling with the idea of his school leaving the Big East.
http://www.jsonline.com/sports/goldeneagles/bigeast14-d7815om-183439151.html?ipad=y

Marquette board says this guy has been wrong many times but I don't like hearing the rotating conference tourney.

Lets just cut right to it and form a league with the ACC non prime time football schools and our Catholic league. STJ, Gtown, Nova, Hall, Prov, Marq, Depaul, Duke, Wake, Xavier, Butler and St L. Cause sooner or later the FSU's, Clemson, Vatch, Va, Miami, BC, NC, Gtech, NC St, Pitt, Cuse along with Uconn and Cinci will all look to bolt to one of the power football confs.

Marquette's new basketball-centric athletic conference will include 10 or 12 teams, have a reasonable television contract and rotating sites for its league tournament, according to university sources.

The Golden Eagles will join six other former members of the Big East: Georgetown, St. John's, Providence, DePaul, Seton Hall and Villanova. Butler and Xavier will leave the Atlantic 10 to join the new unnamed league.

Creighton, Virginia Commonwealth, Dayton or St. Louis could become the 10th team, or the conference could begin play with 12 teams if three schools vying for the 10th spot are all worthy candidates.

The decision to form the new league has already been made, according to MU sources. The only holdup is Georgetown President John J. DeGioia, who is struggling with the idea of his school leaving the Big East.
http://www.jsonline.com/sports/goldeneagles/bigeast14-d7815om-183439151.html?ipad=y

Marquette board says this guy has been wrong many times but I don't like hearing the rotating conference tourney.

Don't like it either but carrying the BE name and its rights is not a slam dunk for the new league it appears.  Thamel mentioned that either formerly dissolving the league or withdrawing from the current league is a "moot" point because either way the Catholic schools are gone sounds largely true.  But if they withdraw then I don't think they get the League name.  They are in essence treated like Rutgers, Louisville etc.  As opposed to dissolving the league and then taking the name and the rights including MSG as Tourney site and restarting the league under new management.

President DeGoia can never make a decision unless you push him.  My God it took a small on campus insurrection at Georgetown to get him to fire Craig Esherick.

Quote from: jumpinjohnny on December 13, 2012, 10:01:03 PM

Marquette's new basketball-centric athletic conference will include 10 or 12 teams, have a reasonable television contract and rotating sites for its league tournament, according to university sources.

The Golden Eagles will join six other former members of the Big East: Georgetown, St. John's, Providence, DePaul, Seton Hall and Villanova. Butler and Xavier will leave the Atlantic 10 to join the new unnamed league.

Creighton, Virginia Commonwealth, Dayton or St. Louis could become the 10th team, or the conference could begin play with 12 teams if three schools vying for the 10th spot are all worthy candidates.

The decision to form the new league has already been made, according to MU sources. The only holdup is Georgetown President John J. DeGioia, who is struggling with the idea of his school leaving the Big East.
http://www.jsonline.com/sports/goldeneagles/bigeast14-d7815om-183439151.html?ipad=y

Marquette board says this guy has been wrong many times but I don't like hearing the rotating conference tourney.

Don't like it either but carrying the BE name and its rights is not a slam dunk for the new league it appears.  Thamel mentioned that either formerly dissolving the league or withdrawing from the current league is a "moot" point because either way the Catholic schools are gone sounds largely true.  But if they withdraw then I don't think they get the League name.  They are in essence treated like Rutgers, Louisville etc.  As opposed to dissolving the league and then taking the name and the rights including MSG as Tourney site and restarting the league under new management.

President DeGoia can never make a decision unless you push him.  My God it took a small on campus insurrection at Georgetown to get him to fire Craig Esherick.

The name is meaningless to me.  I know its branding and all that but lets move on from the name.  I wouldn't pay more for a name we might be able to get back if the remaining schools jockey further.

As for MSG they have opt out if there was further defections.  They will opt out and then we can go right back to them.

As I said on Redmen regarding Gtown.  They need to stop thinking their you know what doesn't stink.  They are not better than everyone else.  Stop being difficult.

fwiw, i would prefer to add dayton in addition to the other two, and keep it to ten schools.  everybody plays each other twice.  top eight teams make the tourney.  not nearly the league we once had, but at least i can identify with the schools.  the best scenario in a bad situation.  i think, as a minimum, gtown, st johns, nova, marquette, and xavier need to be strong year in and year out for the league to be successful.  then, if we get a strong year from any of the other schools, it would be gravy.

The name is important. it has cache, relevance. It promotes legitimacy.

Fight to get it.

You don't hand over your business to the last employee hired. He bows out gracefully, and thank you for opportunity.
The only team with anything close to a claim on the BE is Uconn. The rest are nomads.

Nice piece on ESPN with Andy Katz on the 7's decision to leave the BE.

http://espn.go.com/college-sports/story/_/id/8745235/seven-schools-agree-leave-big-east-debating-process-source-says

This is sad man....

Why is there no interest in including Temple in the new league?  It seems like we are deliberately screwing them.
The Catholic schools should start a new league by being 'good' Catholics.

For years Temple has been a Big East 'wannabe' and from time to time, actually been part of the Big East.  When the Big East needed another team, they met us at the alter.  If for no other reason, include them only so the ACC doesn't grab them. 

If the objection is football, don't include football as part of the league.  Temple can schedule as an independent, or join some other league for that sport.

Creighton?  That's in Omaha Nebraska.  Is there TV there?  I'd opt for St. Louis before Omaha.

Why is there no interest in including Temple in the new league?  It seems like we are deliberately screwing them.
The Catholic schools should start a new league by being 'good' Catholics.

For years Temple has been a Big East 'wannabe' and from time to time, actually been part of the Big East.  When the Big East needed another team, they met us at the alter.  If for no other reason, include them only so the ACC doesn't grab them. 

If the objection is football, don't include football as part of the league.  Temple can schedule as an independent, or join some other league for that sport.

Creighton?  That's in Omaha Nebraska.  Is there TV there?  I'd opt for St. Louis before Omaha.

Temple plays football . . . the sport that started all this crap. I'm sure if Temple came to the Catholic 7 and said they would play in the MAC or Mountain West and sign an iron-clad contract that they wouldn't jump ship, they'd be part of the new league tomorrow. It's on them to do so. The breakaway schools are no longer in the business of begging anyone.

Creighton is a quality program with huge attendance. That is why they are being considered.

Quote from: Moose on December 13, 2012, 12:54:58 PM

Quote from: gman on December 13, 2012, 12:53:57 PM

Has anyone else noticed every article about this has had photos of Sju players. I have a feeling we play a huge role in this. Our toes to nyc and msg are huge for Sju potential conference.

The meeting was at STJ too.

Having a feeling we may be on a roll for good news in addition to this BE development. Not recruiting, but as important.

Sanchez?? Just a feeling or hearning soemthing...hopefully?

I'm not crazy about being pigeon holed as the "Catholic Conference"...Let's get high quality, committed programs"...Limiting us to the Catholic Conference can appear as elitism

Why is there no interest in including Temple in the new league?  It seems like we are deliberately screwing them.
The Catholic schools should start a new league by being 'good' Catholics.

For years Temple has been a Big East 'wannabe' and from time to time, actually been part of the Big East.  When the Big East needed another team, they met us at the alter.  If for no other reason, include them only so the ACC doesn't grab them. 

If the objection is football, don't include football as part of the league.  Temple can schedule as an independent, or join some other league for that sport.

Creighton?  That's in Omaha Nebraska.  Is there TV there?  I'd opt for St. Louis before Omaha.

No temple, noone that plays football

This is sad man....

The sad part has been going on for 10 years.  This is the happy part.

Short of waiting on an acc invite which was never going to happen this is the best scenario. 

I'm not crazy about being pigeon holed as the "Catholic Conference"...Let's get high quality, committed programs"...Limiting us to the Catholic Conference can appear as elitism

The best programs for our purposes seem to be Catholic, though. Xavier and Gonzaga would be a grand slam.

Butler is not Catholic, and they will surely be part of the first round on invites.

Quote from: PEEKSKILLREDDEVIL on December 14, 2012, 03:33:26 AM

This is sad man....

The sad part has been going on for 10 years.  This is the happy part.

Short of waiting on an acc invite which was never going to happen this is the best scenario. 

I agree. I wasn't sure what I'd feel like when it actually happened, but now that's it's here, I'm pretty freaking pumped.

I'd love to have temple and Uconn join.  They just need to drop their shitty football teams and we'll gladly welcome them.