St Francis Game

And wouldn't describe a 15 and 11 game as incredible would you?

Jones wouldn't be playing a all if Sanchez was cleared to play. He has a lot of growth and should have been redshirted instead of Gift.

As for our fans, zero reason for people not to attend a game in Brooklyn unless you had to work.

We talk a big game of being fans but no one shows up.

That affects recruiting and the growth of the program.

I have seen 4 St. Johns games this year and live in Los Angeles.

I bet some fans on this board haven't gone to one.

I know times are tough economically and people are busy but getting to a few games can't be that much of an expense especially if you shop around last minute on stub hub when tickets are basically are being given away.   

Excellent point especially when many people who don't attend the games are always critical about the lack of participation in the student section.

Sorry if you don't understand the meaning of the word incredible. This is not meant as a shot at Amir but some of our posters are incredible.

It really depends on your definition of incredible. If you're limiting it to being the best basketball player in the country, then of course not. But he can be incredible for this team. Like I keep repeating, he's not there yet. But he has the potential. And yes, 15 and 11 consistently would be incredible.

Happen to think CJ will be excellent as an upperclassman.
Plain silly to write him off.

I just wish he would play like a 4. Heiss so soft . He got dominated on the blocks. If he were a junk yard dog he could get 15 mins a game right now. Agree it is too early to write him off.

Just cause he has a pair of guns don't make him a 4.

Brother shows all signs of bein a 3.

Just cause he has a pair of guns don't make him a 4.

Brother shows all signs of bein a 3.

Maybe true but we don't need another 3 we need a 4.

Happen to think CJ will be excellent as an upperclassman.
Plain silly to write him off.

Some would have told Ty Grant to take a walk after his freshman year. By his junior year, he was rebounding over everyone. Players take time to develop. Jones has a good jumper, and he's a good passer. He's lot on defense, but that can be taught, and I'd he's smart enough to be a good passer at 18, he'll be a good a rebounder at 20.

Jones wouldn't be playing a all if Sanchez was cleared to play. He has a lot of growth and should have been redshirted instead of Gift.

As for our fans, zero reason for people not to attend a game in Brooklyn unless you had to work.

We talk a big game of being fans but no one shows up.

That affects recruiting and the growth of the program.

I have seen 4 St. Johns games this year and live in Los Angeles.

I bet some fans on this board haven't gone to one.

I know times are tough economically and people are busy but getting to a few games can't be that much of an expense especially if you shop around last minute on stub hub when tickets are basically are being given away.   

I argue the same thing Jones should have been redshirted instead of Gift. Gift would give us much needed frontcourt depth and there is to much uncertainty w Sanchez. Lavin could have replaced Gift w another JC big. I dont think it would be fair to Gift if Sanchez doesnt qualify and Lavin activates him later in the year.

Quote from: Celtics11 on December 16, 2012, 02:33:15 PM

Sorry if you don't understand the meaning of the word incredible. This is not meant as a shot at Amir but some of our posters are incredible.

It really depends on your definition of incredible. If you're limiting it to being the best basketball player in the country, then of course not. But he can be incredible for this team. Like I keep repeating, he's not there yet. But he has the potential. And yes, 15 and 11 consistently would be incredible.

Well when he consistently puts up 15 and 11 let me know. yesterday vs the all mighty St Francis squad he was 0-4 and 1-3 for a grand total of one whole point. You are right-now that is truly incredible.

Quote from: Choz4Life on December 16, 2012, 02:08:43 PM

Happen to think CJ will be excellent as an upperclassman.
Plain silly to write him off.

Some would have told Ty Grant to take a walk after his freshman year. By his junior year, he was rebounding over everyone. Players take time to develop. Jones has a good jumper, and he's a good passer. He's lot on defense, but that can be taught, and I'd he's smart enough to be a good passer at 18, he'll be a good a rebounder at 20.

Ty Grant was a beast and nothing like CJ.  There was never a question about that kid's hustle at any point in his career. 

I see Celtics is going to make me pay for a 20-second post from my iphone where I described Garrett as incredible. 

And wouldn't describe a 15 and 11 game as incredible would you?

For a non-top 20 recruit?   Of COURSE IT'S FREAKING INCREDIBLE.

As of Friday....

Rank     Player                                Pos      School              Pts         Reb   Mins         FG%         3pt%    FT%%       AST    BLK    STL    TO
#1       Shabazz   Muhammad   G    UCLA        16.0    5.0    28            46%    46%    71%    0.7    0    0.5    2
#2       Nerlens   Noel               C    Kentucky            11.1    9    30.7    53%      0%    54%    2.2    3.6    2.7   
#3       Kyle           Anderson       F    UCLA          7.1    7.9    28.1    36%    10%    54%    3.3    0.8    1.7    2.1
#4       Isaiah           Austin      C    Baylor        14.1    8.4    30.1    53%    33%    36%    1.3    0.6    0.3    1.6
#5       Steven          Adams      C    Pittsburgh      6.2    5.6    20.8    58%      0%    27%    0.6    1.9    0.9    0.9
#6       Ricardo          Ledo              G    Providence    *Partial Qualifier   
#7      Anthony       Bennett      F    UNLV        19.5    8.3    28            55%    32%    74%    0.9    1.8    1    1.4
#8      Alex          Poythress           F    Kentucky            15.4    6.6    29.2    69%    56%    67%    0.6    0.8    0.2    3
#9      Kaleb          Tarczewski   C    Arizona              6.3    6.7    23.1    55%      0%    57%    0.7    1.1    0.7    2
#10      Marcus          Smart      G    Oklahoma St.    13.4    7.4    33.8    36%    21%    79%    5    1.1    2.6    3.4
#11      Glenn          Robinson           F    Michigan            11.6    6.5    30.9    54%    38%    71%    1.3    0.3    0.6    1.3
#12      Rodney          Purvis      G    N.C. State      9.8    2.8    29.4    47%    50%    63%    1.5    0.1    0.9    2
#13      Sam          Dekker      F    Wisconsin    10.0    3.5    22.5    48%    41%    59%    1.6    0.4    0.9    1.2
#14      Archie         Goodwin      G    Kentucky            16.4    5.6    33.1    49%    54%    68%    4.4    0.8    1.2    3.2
#15      Grant         Jerrett      F    Arizona              5.3    3.9    16.3    36%    39%    89%    0.9    0.4    0.9    0.7
#16      Kris         Dunn              G    Providence    *Injured
#17      T.J.        Warren      F    N.C. State    13.8    3.3    26.1    67%    56%    48%    0.6    0.3    0.8    0.9
#18      Rasheed    Sulaimon           G    Duke       12.3    4.0    31.8    42%    40%    81%    2.8    0.1    0.8    1
#19      Kevin        Ferrell              G    Indiana              5.9    2.6    24.9    28%    10%    90%    4.9    0.2    0.6    1.7
#20      Danuel        House              F    Houston            10.8    4.9    23.7    43%    17%    68%    1.1    0    0.4    2.1
#79    Jakarr         Sampson            F        St. Johns          14.5         7.4   31.4         49%           0%         63%        1.3   1.5   0.9   1.7 
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Quote from: Poison on December 16, 2012, 03:44:42 PM

Quote from: Choz4Life on December 16, 2012, 02:08:43 PM

Happen to think CJ will be excellent as an upperclassman.
Plain silly to write him off.

Some would have told Ty Grant to take a walk after his freshman year. By his junior year, he was rebounding over everyone. Players take time to develop. Jones has a good jumper, and he's a good passer. He's lot on defense, but that can be taught, and I'd he's smart enough to be a good passer at 18, he'll be a good a rebounder at 20.

Ty Grant was a beast and nothing like CJ.  There was never a question about that kid's hustle at any point in his career. 

I see Celtics is going to make me pay for a 20-second post from my iphone where I described Garrett as incredible. 

I didn't suggest that Grant was anything like Jones. Rebounding is about effort. And Jones should watch some tape on Ty Grant, and learn how to box out. That's part of it. The other part is he needs to be convinced that you have to hustle on defense for every play. He looks as if he's pretending to defend. Offensively, he needs to learn an up and under. Again, see Ty Grant.

Quote from: redstorm212 on December 16, 2012, 02:52:26 PM

Quote from: Celtics11 on December 16, 2012, 02:33:15 PM

Sorry if you don't understand the meaning of the word incredible. This is not meant as a shot at Amir but some of our posters are incredible.

It really depends on your definition of incredible. If you're limiting it to being the best basketball player in the country, then of course not. But he can be incredible for this team. Like I keep repeating, he's not there yet. But he has the potential. And yes, 15 and 11 consistently would be incredible.

Well when he consistently puts up 15 and 11 let me know. yesterday vs the all mighty St Francis squad he was 0-4 and 1-3 for a grand total of one whole point. You are right-now that is truly incredible.

LOL it's like in one ear and out the other. HE IS NOT THERE YET. HE IS INCONSISTENT RIGHT NOW. Did the caps help? He is NOT incredible YET. Nowhere near incredible yet. Nowhere in any of my posts did I say he was. I say he has the tools to be incredible for us. You picking his worst game of the season to support your entire view on Amir is a bit unfair. I will try to remember these posts during Amir's senior season.

Quote from: Celtics11 on December 16, 2012, 04:25:04 PM

Quote from: redstorm212 on December 16, 2012, 02:52:26 PM

Quote from: Celtics11 on December 16, 2012, 02:33:15 PM

Sorry if you don't understand the meaning of the word incredible. This is not meant as a shot at Amir but some of our posters are incredible.

It really depends on your definition of incredible. If you're limiting it to being the best basketball player in the country, then of course not. But he can be incredible for this team. Like I keep repeating, he's not there yet. But he has the potential. And yes, 15 and 11 consistently would be incredible.

Well when he consistently puts up 15 and 11 let me know. yesterday vs the all mighty St Francis squad he was 0-4 and 1-3 for a grand total of one whole point. You are right-now that is truly incredible.

LOL it's like in one ear and out the other. HE IS NOT THERE YET. HE IS INCONSISTENT RIGHT NOW. Did the caps help? He is NOT incredible YET. Nowhere near incredible yet. Nowhere in any of my posts did I say he was. I say he has the tools to be incredible for us. You picking his worst game of the season to support your entire view on Amir is a bit unfair. I will try to remember these posts during Amir's senior season.

Guess your lol refers to you laughing at yourself. Picking his worst game to support my entire view? I think not as Amir has never been incredible in any college game he has played and i doubt he ever will as most players will never be INCREDIBLE. Do yourself a favor and look the word up for its meaning. Maybe Amir will be incredible someday but it is much more likely to be on a baseball diamond than on a basketball court. And since when did a game of 15 and 11 become labeled as incredible. 30 and 20-now thats incredible. As to Marrillac-I forgive you for using the label of incredible that stirred up this hornets nest. Now let me go and watch The Incredible Mr. Limpet.

Quote from: redstorm212 on December 16, 2012, 04:56:43 PM

Quote from: Celtics11 on December 16, 2012, 04:25:04 PM

Quote from: redstorm212 on December 16, 2012, 02:52:26 PM

Quote from: Celtics11 on December 16, 2012, 02:33:15 PM

Sorry if you don't understand the meaning of the word incredible. This is not meant as a shot at Amir but some of our posters are incredible.

It really depends on your definition of incredible. If you're limiting it to being the best basketball player in the country, then of course not. But he can be incredible for this team. Like I keep repeating, he's not there yet. But he has the potential. And yes, 15 and 11 consistently would be incredible.

Well when he consistently puts up 15 and 11 let me know. yesterday vs the all mighty St Francis squad he was 0-4 and 1-3 for a grand total of one whole point. You are right-now that is truly incredible.

LOL it's like in one ear and out the other. HE IS NOT THERE YET. HE IS INCONSISTENT RIGHT NOW. Did the caps help? He is NOT incredible YET. Nowhere near incredible yet. Nowhere in any of my posts did I say he was. I say he has the tools to be incredible for us. You picking his worst game of the season to support your entire view on Amir is a bit unfair. I will try to remember these posts during Amir's senior season.

Guess your lol refers to you laughing at yourself. Picking his worst game to support my entire view? I think not as Amir has never been incredible in any college game he has played and i doubt he ever will as most players will never be INCREDIBLE. Do yourself a favor and look the word up for its meaning. Maybe Amir will be incredible someday but it is much more likely to be on a baseball diamond than on a basketball court. And since when did a game of 15 and 11 become labeled as incredible. 30 and 20-now thats incredible. As to Marrillac-I forgive you for using the label of incredible that stirred up this hornets nest. Now let me go and watch The Incredible Mr. Limpet.

I think he can develop into a second round pick in the NBA after four years.  That is where I see his ceiling.  He does a little bit of everything and he will really help this team achieve some good things. He has to clean up his handle a lot.  After looking at the definition of the word, I'll downgrade it to terrific...just like Ty Grant was for us.  Not a star, but a great kid to have on your squad and someone you would not want to see on the other team.

Quote from: redstorm212 on December 16, 2012, 04:56:43 PM

Quote from: Celtics11 on December 16, 2012, 04:25:04 PM

Quote from: redstorm212 on December 16, 2012, 02:52:26 PM

Quote from: Celtics11 on December 16, 2012, 02:33:15 PM

Sorry if you don't understand the meaning of the word incredible. This is not meant as a shot at Amir but some of our posters are incredible.

It really depends on your definition of incredible. If you're limiting it to being the best basketball player in the country, then of course not. But he can be incredible for this team. Like I keep repeating, he's not there yet. But he has the potential. And yes, 15 and 11 consistently would be incredible.

Well when he consistently puts up 15 and 11 let me know. yesterday vs the all mighty St Francis squad he was 0-4 and 1-3 for a grand total of one whole point. You are right-now that is truly incredible.

LOL it's like in one ear and out the other. HE IS NOT THERE YET. HE IS INCONSISTENT RIGHT NOW. Did the caps help? He is NOT incredible YET. Nowhere near incredible yet. Nowhere in any of my posts did I say he was. I say he has the tools to be incredible for us. You picking his worst game of the season to support your entire view on Amir is a bit unfair. I will try to remember these posts during Amir's senior season.

Guess your lol refers to you laughing at yourself. Picking his worst game to support my entire view? I think not as Amir has never been incredible in any college game he has played and i doubt he ever will as most players will never be INCREDIBLE. Do yourself a favor and look the word up for its meaning. Maybe Amir will be incredible someday but it is much more likely to be on a baseball diamond than on a basketball court. And since when did a game of 15 and 11 become labeled as incredible. 30 and 20-now thats incredible. As to Marrillac-I forgive you for using the label of incredible that stirred up this hornets nest. Now let me go and watch The Incredible Mr. Limpet.

Not sure why you would guess that, I am laughing at your inability to comprehend a post. I said Amir has potential but he is not there yet, and you bring up his worst game of the season, sarcastically saying, "You are right-now that is truly incredible." I think DLo is incredible for us, but you wouldn't know it if I showed you just his stat line from his worst game.

You seem to not understand that different people will have different interpretations of the same word. If for you 30 and 20 is incredible, then nobody most likely will ever be incredible in a St. John's uniform. For the sake the argument I will drop the word incredible. Replace the word incredible in any of my posts with "amazing" or "great" or "outstanding" and I think that is Amir's ceiling.

Agree to disagree i guess. But I hope you start acknowledging his 15 and 11 games instead of only commenting on Amir when he scores one point.

Bar lay center was nice. There was less then 1000 scattered around watching our game.

Less than 1000?  That's incredible.  I feel guilty that I didn't make it.

A Saturday night St. Francis game at Alumni would have drawn around 4000.  I expected the opportunity to go to the new hot club in town to be an added attraction to this game.

I'm at a loss to explain why none of us made it out to Brooklyn for this one?

Quote from: TONYD3 on December 16, 2012, 10:53:59 AM

Bar lay center was nice. There was less then 1000 scattered around watching our game.

Less than 1000?  That's incredible.  I feel guilty that I didn't make it.

A Saturday night St. Francis game at Alumni would have drawn around 4000.  I expected the opportunity to go to the new hot club in town to be an added attraction to this game.

I'm at a loss to explain why none of us made it out to Brooklyn for this one?

I'm going to blame the lack of our fans there on hanukkah

Quote from: TONYD3 on December 16, 2012, 10:53:59 AM

Bar lay center was nice. There was less then 1000 scattered around watching our game.

Less than 1000?  That's incredible.  I feel guilty that I didn't make it.

A Saturday night St. Francis game at Alumni would have drawn around 4000.  I expected the opportunity to go to the new hot club in town to be an added attraction to this game.

I'm at a loss to explain why none of us made it out to Brooklyn for this one?

Ticket prices.  The only affordable tickets were up in the rafters and noone wants to see St. John's play St. Francis from the rafters.  In order to sit on the lower level, after ticketmaster fees, it would cost over 100 bucks unless you bought a few months in advance, in which case it would've been around 70.

Tickets were available. Bought 4 three days before the game  on the floor for 65 per, corner section row 17. Cheaper seats directly behind the basket floor level. There were also plenty of other seats in my section at same price. If fans do not come out to support the team, the school will not be able to afford Lavin and his staff. It is as simple as that.