Max in the rotation?

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Max in the rotation?
« on: January 05, 2014, 05:32:21 PM »
Just curious what everyone thinks about Max's role in the rotation going forward after the G'Town game?  Max averages 9 minutes a game this season, and played 10 minutes vs G'Town. 

I'm not sure what our strategy is on offense, but I thought we brought in Max (giving him a scholarship) to extend defenses and create driving lanes for our guards.  Maybe it was G'Town letting down on defense in the 2nd half, but I liked the way the ball moved in the 2nd half of yesterdays game. 

I think Max should get more time...something in the 15-20 minutes a game going forward.
« Last Edit: January 05, 2014, 05:33:21 PM by upstate32 »

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« Reply #1 on: January 05, 2014, 07:05:17 PM »
Just curious what everyone thinks about Max's role in the rotation going forward after the G'Town game?  Max averages 9 minutes a game this season, and played 10 minutes vs G'Town. 

I'm not sure what our strategy is on offense, but I thought we brought in Max (giving him a scholarship) to extend defenses and create driving lanes for our guards.  Maybe it was G'Town letting down on defense in the 2nd half, but I liked the way the ball moved in the 2nd half of yesterdays game. 

I think Max should get more time...something in the 15-20 minutes a game going forward.

Im all for him getting 15-20 solid minutes. It would help both rysheed and DLO.
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« Reply #2 on: January 05, 2014, 07:08:03 PM »
For max to be successful he would have to get open. We do nothing to get him open. He does little to get himself open. He is a huge decoy. Didn't watch the end of the game . So I don't know what he did. I know he played well vs penn. St. Think he played to long in that game .ga tech the next game was ready for him. He didn't do much .
He can hit shots if he is wide open. Don't expect him to get open though. Would be like playing 4vs 4.

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« Reply #3 on: January 05, 2014, 07:10:44 PM »
He should get PT. I don't care how bad he is on defense. Our offense needs him.

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« Reply #4 on: January 05, 2014, 07:12:23 PM »
For max to be successful he would have to get open. We do nothing to get him open. He does little to get himself open. He is a huge decoy. Didn't watch the end of the game . So I don't know what he did. I know he played well vs penn. St. Think he played to long in that game .ga tech the next game was ready for him. He didn't do much .
He can hit shots if he is wide open. Don't expect him to get open though. Would be like playing 4vs 4.

For HIM to be successful he has to get open. But for the team to be successful he just needs to be a threat. Dlo and Rysheed have 2+ defenders ready to slide to them whenever they drive. Dom, Obekpa, felix, Gift? whos getting the pass?

And you mention us playing 4v4. That sure beats 4v5
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« Reply #5 on: January 05, 2014, 07:15:18 PM »
For max to be successful he would have to get open. We do nothing to get him open. He does little to get himself open. He is a huge decoy. Didn't watch the end of the game . So I don't know what he did. I know he played well vs penn. St. Think he played to long in that game .ga tech the next game was ready for him. He didn't do much .
He can hit shots if he is wide open. Don't expect him to get open though. Would be like playing 4vs 4.

For HIM to be successful he has to get open. But for the team to be successful he just needs to be a threat. Dlo and Rysheed have 2+ defenders ready to slide to them whenever they drive. Dom, Obekpa, felix, Gift? whos getting the pass?

And you mention us playing 4v4. That sure beats 4v5

Problem is, at any given time we usually have at least 2-3 guys on the court who are complete non-factors on offense. That makes us very easy to defend.

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« Reply #6 on: January 05, 2014, 07:16:20 PM »
I don't think one guy getting more burn is going to fix this. Lavin appears to have lost this team. He pulled a stunt on Saturday and now it's on him to fix this, or be subject the fans and media tearing him a new a hole. I bought season tickets, and sucked it up when he ruined the season by suspending Harrison, but just like with Norm, eventually, no one cares why it isn't working, if it working you get the blame.

So, let's sit back, try to relax and see if Lavin can prove all of us wrong. At the end if the day, he will be held responsible for how this season plays out.

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« Reply #7 on: January 05, 2014, 08:32:47 PM »
Just curious what everyone thinks about Max's role in the rotation going forward after the G'Town game?  Max averages 9 minutes a game this season, and played 10 minutes vs G'Town. 

I'm not sure what our strategy is on offense, but I thought we brought in Max (giving him a scholarship) to extend defenses and create driving lanes for our guards.  Maybe it was G'Town letting down on defense in the 2nd half, but I liked the way the ball moved in the 2nd half of yesterdays game. 

I think Max should get more time...something in the 15-20 minutes a game going forward.

Max played well against Georgetown, which probably means he won't see the floor against Villanova.

So goes our season.

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« Reply #8 on: January 05, 2014, 08:35:46 PM »
For max to be successful he would have to get open. We do nothing to get him open. He does little to get himself open. He is a huge decoy. Didn't watch the end of the game . So I don't know what he did. I know he played well vs penn. St. Think he played to long in that game .ga tech the next game was ready for him. He didn't do much .
He can hit shots if he is wide open. Don't expect him to get open though. Would be like playing 4vs 4.

If Hooper is on the floor with Harrison and Jordan, he will assuredly get open looks.  Problem is Lavin will be more inclined to pair Harrison with Greene, which only makes sense to him.

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« Reply #9 on: January 05, 2014, 08:53:56 PM »
After last game how can we even discuss who should or should not be in the rotation? Does anyone really have any idea what Lavin will or won't do next game?

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« Reply #10 on: January 05, 2014, 09:16:41 PM »
After last game how can we even discuss who should or should not be in the rotation? Does anyone really have any idea what Lavin will or won't do next game?

Didn't you just start a thread about that very topic?
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« Reply #11 on: January 05, 2014, 09:59:38 PM »
After last game how can we even discuss who should or should not be in the rotation? Does anyone really have any idea what Lavin will or won't do next game?

Didn't you just start a thread about that very topic?

Yeah as I joke. I couldn't possibly hazard a real guess about rotations or lineups. I think there are 9 guys who should play. You want to argue about a 10th fine. But when you start putting Felix and walkons into the mix all bets are off.

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« Reply #12 on: January 05, 2014, 11:10:16 PM »
Hooper should be worked into the rotation, but plays need to be set for him.
Without him, we have no consistent outside threat. Give him an opportunity to build up a sweat for a change.

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« Reply #13 on: January 06, 2014, 12:04:33 AM »
Catch and shoot guys like Hooper only thrive when there is significant movement/cuts/screens by the 4 guys off the ball. Unfortunately for us nobody in division 1 has a more stagnant and stand still offense than we do

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« Reply #14 on: January 06, 2014, 12:17:16 AM »
Hooper should play, but Hooper should move too. He just camps out, and waits. Who knows, maybe he's told to do that. I'm thinking back to being at a STJ Providence game at Alumni Hall in 1996. Mahoney called a TO, and I heard a voice tell out "whatever he said, don't listen to him".

Unfortunately that sentiment probably applies here. Lavin has his work cut out for him. Right now, all things considered, he's Brian Mahoney.

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« Reply #15 on: January 06, 2014, 12:23:46 AM »
How many minutes Max plays isn't as important as how many shots he takes per game.

When he is in the game he needs to be utilized. He is a specialist and seriously the dude is a machine. He works really hard at his craft and it shows. My magic number is 4. Get him at minimum 4 shots a game.

I'd like to see him an Harrison on the floor at the same time. Pick your poison where you want the zone to cheat too. Might over extend a zone and allow Jordan/Branch to penetrate. Sampson can catch at the high post and Max is actually a guy he will pass to. This isn't rocket science.
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« Reply #16 on: January 06, 2014, 02:37:00 AM »
I don't think one guy getting more burn is going to fix this. Lavin appears to have lost this team. He pulled a stunt on Saturday and now it's on him to fix this, or be subject the fans and media tearing him a new a hole. I bought season tickets, and sucked it up when he ruined the season by suspending Harrison, but just like with Norm, eventually, no one cares why it isn't working, if it working you get the blame.

So, let's sit back, try to relax and see if Lavin can prove all of us wrong. At the end if the day, he will be held responsible for how this season plays out.
Your best post ever Poison! I agree and will take your advice. At this point wish I didn't have a season ticket this season and if this garbage continues and the fugitive from the insane asylum is back as coach next year I will drop my season ticket as I did in Norm's last year which is the only year I didn't have season tickets since fr yr 72-73!

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« Reply #17 on: January 06, 2014, 10:35:30 AM »
How many minutes Max plays isn't as important as how many shots he takes per game.

When he is in the game he needs to be utilized. He is a specialist and seriously the dude is a machine. He works really hard at his craft and it shows. My magic number is 4. Get him at minimum 4 shots a game.

I'd like to see him an Harrison on the floor at the same time. Pick your poison where you want the zone to cheat too. Might over extend a zone and allow Jordan/Branch to penetrate. Sampson can catch at the high post and Max is actually a guy he will pass to. This isn't rocket science.

Amen Dave...

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« Reply #18 on: January 06, 2014, 10:36:22 AM »
For max to be successful he would have to get open. We do nothing to get him open. He does little to get himself open. He is a huge decoy. Didn't watch the end of the game . So I don't know what he did. I know he played well vs penn. St. Think he played to long in that game .ga tech the next game was ready for him. He didn't do much .
He can hit shots if he is wide open. Don't expect him to get open though. Would be like playing 4vs 4.

Well on another thread less that 48 hours ago you said he should not even be on scholarship...

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« Reply #19 on: January 06, 2014, 10:52:11 AM »
I would bet a dollar to a donut that Max starts on Saturday, if for no other reason than hitting 4 threes the other day makes him the "Flavor of the Week"
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