6th Man of St. John's Basketball
St. John's Red Storm => In The Jungle... => Topic started by: QuanMan on January 02, 2020, 10:00:22 AM
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Xavier's coming off a hard fought loss @Nova. Their roster is tough, older and physical. Upper classmen Gooden, Scruggs, Jones and Marshall (who killed us last year in Cincy) are all threats in their own respective ways. They have two new bigs, Jason Carter (Ohio transfer) and Zach Freemantle (3star from Jersey) who give them very good depth.
Cintas is a tough environment, they pack 10K strong on a nightly basis. Without a doubt need MH back for this matchup, falling 0-2 @GTown next week would be daunting.
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This might be the best front court in the conference it will tell us where we stand. Hopefully the bash brothers are ready to crack skulls.
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Tyrique Jones is in his 10th season with the squad. He has perpetually owned us forever. Have to crash the glass hard and hope that Marshall isn't on fire. Gooden and Scruggs have been hot and cold throughout their careers. Let's just hope we catch them during a freeze.
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Think we'll be about 8 point dogs in this one.
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Xavier has won 9 straight against us but really need this win! Mullin was 0-9 against Xavier, these Veteran guys they got must’ve been good as Freshman too.
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Xavier has won 9 straight against us but really need this win! Mullin was 0-9 against Xavier, these Veteran guys they got must’ve been good as Freshman too.
Providence and Xavier owned Mullin, the combined record against is embarrassing.
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Xavier has won 9 straight against us but really need this win! Mullin was 0-9 against Xavier, these Veteran guys they got must’ve been good as Freshman too.
Yes that bum was 0-9. Half of those losses were complete knock outs and we have posters implying that he was a good coach and the school is cursed.
Last year during a home game. We are getting blown out. Xavier was playing a HS level 2/3 zone. Bad shot after bad shot. Nothing from the St. John’s bench. In the second half No adjustments made no timeouts taken. But our hero made sure to curse out each referee. He also told the Xavier coach to shut the fxck up.
Two years ago in the big east tournament. St. John’s was actually competitive for about 15 minutes. We lost that game by almost 50. The hero decided not to shake hands. 4 star Yakwe didn’t play in that game. Amar and walk ons did.
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Providence and Xavier owned Mullin, the combined record against is embarrassing.
From memory 1-7 vs providence. 0-9 vs Xavier. That would make him 19-43 vs the rest of the conference. That’s almost ok.
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Xavier has been delivering beatdowns (recently debated) for some time.
If CFC and the team get a W here I'll be duly impressed.
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Yes that bum was 0-9. Half of those losses were complete knock outs and we have posters implying that he was a good coach and the school is cursed.
Last year during a home game. We are getting blown out. Xavier was playing a HS level 2/3 zone. Bad shot after bad shot. Nothing from the St. John’s bench. In the second half No adjustments made no timeouts taken. But our hero made sure to curse out each referee. He also told the Xavier coach to shut the fxck up.
Two years ago in the big east tournament. St. John’s was actually competitive for about 15 minutes. We lost that game by almost 50. The hero decided not to shake hands. 4 star Yakwe didn’t play in that game. Amar and walk ons did.
and that was one of the better coaching efforts by the Maestro.
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Xavier has won 9 straight against us but really need this win! Mullin was 0-9 against Xavier, these Veteran guys they got must’ve been good as Freshman too.
That’s one way to look at it, but you are familiar with graduation and players turning pro right?
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Yes that bum was 0-9. Half of those losses were complete knock outs and we have posters implying that he was a good coach and the school is cursed.
Last year during a home game. We are getting blown out. Xavier was playing a HS level 2/3 zone. Bad shot after bad shot. Nothing from the St. John’s bench. In the second half No adjustments made no timeouts taken. But our hero made sure to curse out each referee. He also told the Xavier coach to shut the fxck up.
Two years ago in the big east tournament. St. John’s was actually competitive for about 15 minutes. We lost that game by almost 50. The hero decided not to shake hands. 4 star Yakwe didn’t play in that game. Amar and walk ons did.
Not even Anderson’s most ardent supporters (at least one being a relative) would argue that he is a marked improvement on Mullin in half court offense.
They’ve all tomd us that Anderson’s teams have trouble scoring in the half court and winning on the road.
I would be impressed if we won this game. I don’t think it will happen but I do think Anderson’s style matches up better with Xavier and Providence than Mullin’s. We have the front court to punch them back in the mouth this time around.
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I agree that the half court offense is shaky. But I like thE pressure D a lot...leading to buckets of turnovers and easy baskets. Rebounding has been great until last game and conditioning is superb. Mullin failed totally as a coach. Anderson has been good everywhere he’s been and I think he will very possibly turn the program around.
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Mullin failed totally as a coach.
How is earning an Ncaa tournament bid "failed totally as a coach"?
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I agree that the half court offense is shaky. But I like thE pressure D a lot...leading to buckets of turnovers and easy baskets. Rebounding has been great until last game and conditioning is superb. Mullin failed totally as a coach. Anderson has been good everywhere he’s been and I think he will very possibly turn the program around.
Yup. Anderson's system travels well. Pressure D and good rebounding are the foundations that he's laying. Those pillars will always keep us competitive and with better recruiting we could be an annual contender to dance. That's about as good as it can get for this program.
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Y’all literally had LJ, Mustapha, Ponds, Clark, Simon, Roberts, Williams, Earlington, and Wright last year, that’s a crazy packed roster...but no matter what a NCAA tourney bid is always a really good season.
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Y’all literally had LJ, Mustapha, Ponds, Clark, Simon, Roberts, Williams, Earlington, and Wright last year, that’s a crazy packed roster...but no matter what a NCAA tourney bid is always a really good season.
The problem was Roberts , Williams and Earlington weren’t used properly. Wright had to sit out. As another poster said, should have played more against the patsies and would have been able to provide depth during the conference games.
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How is earning an Ncaa tournament bid "failed totally as a coach"?
Doesn’t mean anything after the disgraceful late season swoon which I put on the staff. Read my last post
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Not even Anderson’s most ardent supporters (at least one being a relative) would argue that he is a marked improvement on Mullin in half court offense.
They’ve all tomd us that Anderson’s teams have trouble scoring in the half court and winning on the road.
I would be impressed if we won this game. I don’t think it will happen but I do think Anderson’s style matches up better with Xavier and Providence than Mullin’s. We have the front court to punch them back in the mouth this time around.
So far he looks about the same as mullin in the half court. That’s not a compliment. Luckily we aren’t playing half court basketball.
I watched plenty of SEC basketball last year. The top teams are more athletic and bigger then the big east. At least it was last year. I saw Arkansas about 5/6 times. Anderson’s team played hard. But they didn’t have any physical advantage over teams like LSU.
The big east has gotten soft. Xavier wasn’t talented last year. They did fine in conference. Providence was considered to be a tough big east team. Arkansas beat them up in the NIT.
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Doesn’t mean anything after the disgraceful late season swoon which I put on the staff.
Is that so? Riddle me this:
Team A wins it's last 5 games of the season and qualifies for the Cbi.
Team B loses it's last 5 games of the season and qualifies for the Ncaa.
To the coach of which team is it most appropriate to label "failed totally as a coach"?
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Mullin failed totally as a coach. Anderson has been good everywhere
Child-like and provably false response. Mullin made the tournament in his fourth year at St. John’s. Thst is a big achievement at lowly St. John’s. Anderson missed it last year in his 8th season at Arkansas—his 5th miss there. That is more misses than any coach in several decades at Arkansas. By comparison, Eddie Sutton and Nolan Richardson only missed a combined 5 in 27 consecutive years coaches there.
Anderson’s replacement after being shitcanned, as Tony D likes to describe it, is 11-1 and ranked #20 in the country. Arkansas just beat one-loss Indiana in its last game That’s quite a year for a team that meets the “rebuilding” standards set forth by a pair of our resident nice persons.
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Child-like and provably false response. Mullin made the tournament in his fourth year at St. John’s. Thst is a big achievement at lowly St. John’s. Anderson missed it last year in his 8th season at Arkansas—his 5th miss there. That is more misses than any coach in several decades at Arkansas. By comparison, Eddie Sutton and Nolan Richardson only missed a combined 5 in 27 consecutive years coaches there.
Anderson’s replacement after being shitcanned, as Tony D likes to describe it, is 11-1 and ranked #20 in the country. Arkansas just beat one-loss Indiana in its last game That’s quite a year for a team that meets the “rebuilding” standards set forth by a pair of our resident nice persons.
Mullin was an awful in game coach, but landed some talent and he let them work and it got SJU in tournament. The talent on this years team is lacking compared to last couple so direct comparisons will be hard. One thing I like about Anderson is he has a style and a plan and goes with it. It's not perfect... but I do think it works well with certain players and he can make it work if he can a few NYC kids home especially if they end up a second tier type. As for his work at Arkansas, like his style of play it had some good highs and low lows. I do think this year that team will level out as SOS has not been much and IU is not a good team. Will be at the Maryland/IU game this weekend actually.
Either way... I think it was time for a change and see where it goes.
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Mullin was an awful in game coach, but landed some talent and he let them work and it got SJU in tournament. The talent on this years team is lacking compared to last couple so direct comparisons will be hard. One thing I like about Anderson is he has a style and a plan and goes with it. It's not perfect... but I do think it works well with certain players and he can make it work if he can a few NYC kids home especially if they end up a second tier type. As for his work at Arkansas, like his style of play it had some good highs and low lows. I do think this year that team will level out as SOS has not been much and IU is not a good team. Will be at the Maryland/IU game this weekend actually.
Either way... I think it was time for a change and see where it goes.
I never argued Mullin was even good. I don’t push back when posters say Anderson is good. I push back when these idiots have to go to extremes on everything. Mullin wasn’t awful. Norm was. Mullin made the tournament after inheriting the worst returning roster in the history of the program.
Anderson is as good as we can hope for at St. John’s in this era—buy make no mistake, he will be chased out after his honeymoon is over because of these unrealistic expectations. Our fans were over the moon with Lavin the first two years.
He’s a flawed coach, but he has had decades of lessons that he’s learned from and he knows exactly what he needs. There is value in that.
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Child-like and provably false response. Mullin made the tournament in his fourth year at St. John’s. Thst is a big achievement at lowly St. John’s. Anderson missed it last year in his 8th season at Arkansas—his 5th miss there. That is more misses than any coach in several decades at Arkansas. By comparison, Eddie Sutton and Nolan Richardson only missed a combined 5 in 27 consecutive years coaches there.
Anderson’s replacement after being shitcanned, as Tony D likes to describe it, is 11-1 and ranked #20 in the country. Arkansas just beat one-loss Indiana in its last game That’s quite a year for a team that meets the “rebuilding” standards set forth by a pair of our resident nice persons.
Arkansas is not #20 in the Country, they have played one team all year in the Top 100, which is Indiana, and Indiana is really not very good. St Johns has played 4, and won 2. You just make up stuff all the time. And Arkansas was the youngest team in the Country last year with 4 Freshman playing big minutes and producing which led to a 18-15 season, and now this year they have matured and are playing even better.
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Arkansas is not #20 in the Country, they have played one team all year in the Top 100, which is Indiana, and Indiana is really not very good. St Johns has played 4, and won 2. You just make up stuff all the time. And Arkansas was the youngest team in the Country last year with 4 Freshman playing big minutes and producing which led to a 18-15 season, and now this year they have matured and are playing even better.
They are 26 in Net rankings..... but going into season if you showed anyone both rosters and said which new coach is walking into better place the answer was Arkansas. Anderson has already done more with what he has than expected!
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Child-like and provably false response. Mullin made the tournament in his fourth year at St. John’s. Thst is a big achievement at lowly St. John’s. Anderson missed it last year in his 8th season at Arkansas—his 5th miss there. That is more misses than any coach in several decades at Arkansas. By comparison, Eddie Sutton and Nolan Richardson only missed a combined 5 in 27 consecutive years coaches there.
Anderson’s replacement after being shitcanned, as Tony D likes to describe it, is 11-1 and ranked #20 in the country. Arkansas just beat one-loss Indiana in its last game That’s quite a year for a team that meets the “rebuilding” standards set forth by a pair of our resident nice persons.
You realize that this poster absolutely loves Chris mullin and stood up for him multiple times and gotten in multiple arguments in favor of him as a coach in the past.
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You realize that this poster absolutely loves Chris mullin
You realize that all St. John fans absolutely love Chris Mullin. Since this is a St. Johns basketball fan site - I'll just assume that all posters absolutely love Chris Mullin. Why else would they be here?
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You realize that all St. John fans absolutely love Chris Mullin. Since this is a St. Johns basketball fan site - I'll just assume that all posters absolutely love Chris Mullin. Why else would they be here?
You do realize that here is a difference between Mullin the player and Mullins the coach right? Love the player less than fond of the lazy assed coach.
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You do realize that here is a difference between Mullin the player and Mullins the coach right? Love the player less than fond of the lazy assed coach.
No I don't. They are one and the same person. Any St. John's fan worth his salt would have given him a lifetime pass as I have. He's done that much for the program to earn it.
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Think we'll be about 8 point dogs in this one.
Opened at 7.5
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Heron is back......
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No I don't. They are one and the same person. Any St. John's fan worth his salt would have given him a lifetime pass as I have. He's done that much for the program to earn it.
You also don't read your messages. Sorry I'm an adult and no one gets a lifetime pass when they lay down on the job and don't even put in minimal effort. Wasn't fair to the players let alone the fans.
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You also don't read your messages. Sorry I'm an adult and no one gets a lifetime pass when they lay down on the job and don't even put in minimal effort. Wasn't fair to the players let alone the fans.
If Babe Ruth coached the Yankees and it didn't turn out as well as some fans expected, they shouldn't say boo about because of what he meant to the franchise. Same if Jordan coached the Bulls or Gretsky coached the Oilers. If Mullin's coaching record was 0 and every game the fans should have just shut up about it because of what he's done for the program. Let alone build the worst team in school history into an Ncaa tournament team.
Yes, I'm old and old school. Loyalty is an important character trait to me and one I value and am proud to display. Turncoat fans and posters? Not so much.
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You realize that this poster absolutely loves Chris mullin and stood up for him multiple times and gotten in multiple arguments in favor of him as a coach in the past.
I could see how an idiot like you would think Marillac “absolutely loves Chris Mullin” despite the fact that the biggest compliment ever given to him was that he was probably a little below average.
Idiots need things simplified into black and white. One or the other. Mullin awful. Anderson hero. Tony D stupid.
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I wonder how the combination of Roberts, Earlington and/or Steere will handle Jones. I especially want to see what Earlington is capable of defensively against Jones.
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Tough game. Preseason I had Xavier winning the big east
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Heron is back......
Hope he lets the game come to him, v trying to take on Xavier himself. I hope we don't see a lot of forced shots, 1 on 3 drives, etc.
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Tough game. Preseason I had Xavier winning the big east
Damn. No point in watching this one now.
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I could see how an idiot like you would think Marillac “absolutely loves Chris Mullin” despite the fact that the biggest compliment ever given to him was that he was probably a little below average.
Idiots need things simplified into black and white. One or the other. Mullin awful. Anderson hero. Tony D stupid.
Guy you lost the argument. Now your calling names. I assume that’s why Foady isn’t allowed here any more.
I never called the hero a bad coach. I said he was lazy and didn’t do his job. He was not a bad coach. He didn’t coach. He was not a bad recruiter. He didn’t recruit. If you payed the slightest attention you would have saw that. My opinion was not that he was lazy. Your neighbor’s, sister’s , cousin’s boy friend could have easily have figured it out. It was a fact.
20-59 was not only earned, he was lucky to get there. Yesterday you said norm lucked into mason. Your boy had 2 5 star players, ponds, Lovett, Yakwe, and plenty of of other high 3 star players. Out of 59 losses 40 probably weren’t even close. That is not below average.
Back to the topic of Xavier. Lavin did fine against them. So will Anderson. Mullin was 0-9. Their is no middle ground 1 guy sucked.
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Vikings/Saints going to OT on Fox. Great
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Tip off 4:42. Game will be temporarily moved to fox sports 1 until football game is over. According to Tim brando
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Tip off 4:42. Game will be temporarily moved to fox sports 1 until football game is over. According to Tim brando
Thanks for the info!!
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Our defense is giving them fits early on.
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Defense travels!
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Mustapha playing in rhythm. Keep it up boys.
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Wish Rutherford could shoot
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We would all be better off if Donny Marshal came down with laryngitis.
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Can see the coaches of Xavier doing cartwheels on the sideline when Earington launches a 3
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We would all be better off if Donny Marshal came down with laryngitis.
Finally agree on something
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Rough stretch there : not what we are looking for....
Missed 3 foul shots
Earlington 3
LJ step back contested 3
Roberts contested jumper
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The Duke and Freemantle reliving their HS rivalry battles from Bosco and Bergen. The Duke with relentless effort.
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Wish Rutherford could shoot
Wish any of our players could shoot.
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Nice to fight back and. It let game get away there when we were down by 6 ....need to start 2h strong....wish LJ/Heron could start hitting some shots like Marshall is for them
Attack him try to have him pick up 3rd foul early
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Penny needs to start playing like he did in OOC play.
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Wish Rutherford could shoot
Wish Heron would drive and stop shooting
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Wish Heron would drive and stop shooting
Every time. Too much standing around on the perimeter. Need to attack.
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If this team could shoot at all, they could be dangerous. Scoring is so difficult for this team.
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If this team could shoot at all, they could be dangerous. Scoring is so difficult for this team.
I agree 100 percent..need some clamp down D now the last 10 minutes
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Last time LJ scored?
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No one can finish
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Can't buy a bucket.
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This team is far closer to the one that lost to Vermont and Arizona State than the one that beat WVU and Arizona
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Anderson went too long without subbing again.
The Hal f court is nothing but one on one. The offensive rebounding is rabid—which I love. If given a choice of a plan in the half court or nonstop hitting the glass I don’t know what I’d choose.
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As nice as the full court defense, turnovers, etc are nice I do think the fatigue factors into the poor offensive side of things too. We also don't run anything that resembles a half court offense which also doesn't help either
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This team is far closer to the one that lost to Vermont and Arizona State than the one that beat WVU and Arizona
That’s not fair. Xavier is a good team. We missed plenty of easy shots. This game could be closer. And we still have a chance
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Gotta get Carraher an open look
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Is Ian Steere hurt? Did I miss something over holiday why is he getting no burn?
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Horrendous shot out of that long delay
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Is Ian Steere hurt? Did I miss something over holiday why is he getting no burn?
What have you watched him do to get any more playing time?
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Seen a lot.of these games as a hog fan, just if we could hit.a shot or if something, Anderson never had all the pieces at Arkansas an is short this year.
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What have you watched him do to get any more playing time?
I don't know what goes on in practice but he played 4 min against Arizona. Not much of a sample size
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Figueroa disappearing act
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You HAVE to win the next two games now!
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Carraher wide open spotting up and Dunn takes it to the rack and gets it tossed into the stands
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On the positive side this team never quits and the defense is going to keep them in a lot of games. Even on a horrid shooting day they still manage to hang around.
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That’s not fair. Xavier is a good team. We missed plenty of easy shots. This game could be closer. And we still have a chance
Yes, the game could be closer if we were better. We are a team that misses plenty of easy shots. That's part of the problem.
Our first points of the game were part of an 11-0 run. We were thoroughly beaten in every aspect of the game since then aside from turnovers.
We attempted 14 more FGs than them and only 4 less FTs and still were never really in it with less than 4 mins left. If teams handle the ball even somewhat carefully against us, we're gonna get romped.
As it stands now there are only 3 Big East games that we will be favored in, with those being by 3 points or less.
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Thought Figgy and Heron would be go-to guys but they don’t seem to be capable of that role. Debatable if they even fit the way the rest of team plays, with the hustle and constant movement.
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Must win next two
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Thought Figgy and Heron would be go-to guys but they don’t seem to be capable of that role. Debatable if they even fit the way the rest of team plays, with the hustle and constant movement.
Agreed. Not a fan of Heron at all.
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Yes, the game could be closer if we were better. We are a team that misses plenty of easy shots. That's part of the problem.
Our first points of the game were part of an 11-0 run. We were thoroughly beaten in every aspect of the game since then aside from turnovers.
We attempted 14 more FGs than them and only 4 less FTs and still were never really in it with less than 4 mins left. If teams handle the ball even somewhat carefully against us, we're gonna get romped.
As it stands now there are only 3 Big East games that we will be favored in, with those being by 3 points or less.
We lost by 8 to a good team on the road. I wished we won. But that’s life in the big east. Hit 2 more easy shots and a few more free throws and the game could have been different.
I am tired of losing and I want to win. But maybe the expectations are to high.
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Thought Figgy and Heron would be go-to guys but they don’t seem to be capable of that role. Debatable if they even fit the way the rest of team plays, with the hustle and constant movement.
Agreed. It remains to be seen with both of them.
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As I type this the game is 6 points on the road.
Down 6 with 7 seconds left is not a positive
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Isn’t Georgetown down to 7 or 8 scholarship players? That outta help our press.
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Horrendous shot out of that long delay
All season. That will likely be he longest stoppage of play all year and we got a very low % shot out of it.
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KenPom's projection for this game was Xavier winning 75-67
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Thought Figgy and Heron would be go-to guys but they don’t seem to be capable of that role. Debatable if they even fit the way the rest of team plays, with the hustle and constant movement.
Finding Earlington or Roberts on a roll to the rim seems the best, maybe only, play we have.
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Big East will test your spirit. Will be interesting to see how the team responds in DC.
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Isn’t Georgetown down to 7 or 8 scholarship players? That outta help our press.
Yeah booiii!!! Let’s hope for a sprained ankle or pulled hammy to get them to 6! The we can beat them on fatigue!!!!
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One of turning points of game was when it was 59-55 think about 7 minutes left we are on a mini 6-0 run X throws up a 3 hits back iron and Marshall beats Rutherford for the long rebound and then throws to Jones for a dunk to get crowd back in it and start a 9-0 to go up 13....get that long rebound and chance to make it 2 point game.
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Big East will test your spirit. Will be interesting to see how the team responds in DC.
We have no doubt you have the unwavering spirit to withstand a whole season of much worse...with this handle and the SJUFan handle.
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Yeah booiii!!! Let’s hope for a sprained ankle or pulled hammy to get them to 6! The we can beat them on fatigue!!!!
Congrats we lost.
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It's hard to win when you can't hit your open threes or finish at the rim..... they got open a lot which is encouraging and they of course forced TOs. Needed to split these two on road and get back to 2-2 at home next weekend. That has not changed.
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Have to believe that our pressure defense will keep us in games. We cant continue to shoot this poorly. Need to find some rhythm on offense. This team needs shooters badly. Caraher and Heron need to step up to relieve the pressure.
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Yeah booiii!!! Let’s hope for a sprained ankle or pulled hammy to get them to 6! The we can beat them on fatigue!!!!
Its ight, Mullin didn’t ever have an even or above Big East record.
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It's hard to win when you can't hit your open threes or finish at the rim..... they got open a lot which is encouraging and they of course forced TOs. Needed to split these two on road and get back to 2-2 at home next weekend. That has not changed.
It’s more than that. The takes are mostly reckless and out of control and three’s are one on one off the dribble. I can remember one nice inside-out three from Earlington to Rutherford. Unless you ar a special player or feeling it, those fall around 15% of the time. An open inside-out attempt can be 50-60%.
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Its ight, Mullin didn’t ever have an even or above Big East record.
Well you were fired by your dad for a DUI so anything is “ight” compared to that.
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Down 6 with 7 seconds left is not a positive
It wasn’t even that close. We got the little brother treatment.
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Well you were fired by your dad for a DUI so anything is “ight” compared to that.
I’m white bro, lmao I follow Dave, and many more on twitter lmao.
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Low rated players are low rated for a reason
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Got a lot of good looks both in the half court and on fast breaks that they just couldn’t convert. Also heron and Figueroa going 1-9 from 3 doesn’t help (obviously the rest of the team didn’t hit any 3s either, but figgy and heron are the only legit 3point threats).
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Just to make Marillac look dumb my Twitter is bradleyja1997, all he does is make fake acquisitions to look good and have something to post
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Just to make Marillac look dumb my Twitter is bradleyja1997, all he does is make fake acquisitions to look good and have something to post
Marillac is great at acquisitions...just acquired a new banjo that I tried sending you but it was returned. Apparently Anderson’s Biggest Nut-hugger in Pile of Shit, Arkansas was not specific enough?
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Just to make Marillac look dumb my Twitter is bradleyja1997, all he does is make fake acquisitions to look good and have something to post
If your goal was to make someone look dumb with that post then you nailed it.
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Yessir love the stereotypes, if it makes you feel good then it makes me feel good too!
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If your goal was to make someone look dumb with that post then you nailed it.
You made yourself look plenty dumb all week. Now with this loss you will have more confidence. We can expect plenty of nonsense until Wednesday.
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Yessir love the stereotypes, if it makes you feel good then it makes me feel good too!
I’m glad you are handling the hookworm well. If it’s any consolation, I do manually add about 10-15 IQ pts to where I expect you’d be had your parents made you wear shoes while you frolicked in pig sh*t as a child. I think that’s only fair, right? Woo pig Sooie!!!!
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We have no doubt you have the unwavering spirit to withstand a whole season of much worse...with this handle and the SJUFan handle.
It's a marathon not a sprint. The sky isn't falling and this is my only handle.
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Just to make Marillac look dumb my Twitter is bradleyja1997, all he does is make fake acquisitions to look good and have something to post
The Bannermountainman-Marillac feud is definitely heading down the " Tombstone Doc Holladay Johnny Ringo Route ". Who draws first blood ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8OWNspU_yE
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The Bannermountainman-Marillac feud is definitely heading down the " Tombstone Doc Holladay Johnny Ringo Route ". Who draws first blood ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8OWNspU_yE
Hopefully we are sju can find his way out of the casket and revive the tale of the tape
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It's a marathon not a sprint. The sky isn't falling and this is my only handle.
That makes sense. You clearly don’t have a handle on reality. Boom b*tch!!!!
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The Bannermountainman-Marillac feud is definitely heading down the " Tombstone Doc Holladay Johnny Ringo Route ". Who draws first blood ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8OWNspU_yE
I don’t know if I want to deal with his parasites if I draw blood from him 🤢
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Marillac is great at acquisitions...just acquired a new banjo that I tried sending you but it was returned. Apparently Anderson’s Biggest Nut-hugger in Pile of Shit, Arkansas was not specific enough?
You keep embarrassing yourself, give us all a break.
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That makes sense. You clearly don’t have a handle on reality. Boom b*tch!!!!
Pot, meet kettle.
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You keep embarrassing yourself, give us all a break.
I’d be happy to once the savior talk and shots at Mullin die down.
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I’d be happy to once the savior talk and shots at Mullin die down.
So you are mad that Mullin got canned for a better coach?
Pointing out Mullins flaws isn’t taking shots. He did go 20-52 which is awful. How can you not be optimistic about a proven coach after that. Similar to Lavin. He’s not the greatest but compared to Norm he was a blessing.
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If your goal was to make someone look dumb with that post then you nailed it.
Now that you click on his Twitter handle, pls at least admit that you were wrong in stating that he's likely Anderson's son or nephew
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For all I know Mullin did a good job, he literally made the NCAA tourney and only like 16% of teams make it so that’s good, all I said was he was never even in BE play because he was mouthing because we were 0-2. Mullin didn’t even get fired so he must’ve done something right, I’m always positive because I like to get my hopes up and get crushed, I was estatic about the WVU win and Arizona win and crushed by the Vermont and Butler loss, the Arizona St loss just happens. I’ve never heard of Chris Mullin before I started following St Johns, which is pretty sad of me but seems like he was an amazing player and was trending up as a coach each year, so why did he step down?
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Guys can we please keep discussion on the game. Not each other.
Lets talk about how we got completely out rebounded today...
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For all I know Mullin did a good job, he literally made the NCAA tourney and only like 16% of teams make it so that’s good, all I said was he was never even in BE play because he was mouthing because we were 0-2. Mullin didn’t even get fired so he must’ve done something right, I’m always positive because I like to get my hopes up and get crushed, I was estatic about the WVU win and Arizona win and crushed by the Vermont and Butler loss, the Arizona St loss just happens. I’ve never heard of Chris Mullin before I started following St Johns, which is pretty sad of me but seems like he was an amazing player and was trending up as a coach each year, so why did he step down?
I became a fan and probably went to St. John’s because of Chris mullin. He is considered our best player, he played on the dream team, and I think he is one of the NBA’s 50 best players.
As a coach, this man didn’t run his huddle, barely talked to his team, and rarely called timeouts. Basically he did nothing. In 4 years I never saw him correct anyone or discipline anyone.
Mullin hired a terrible staff. Slice- was paid for 5 years even though he was only here 1 year.
St. Jean- was hired at 23 years old to run the team. He ran practice. Basically he coached and prepared the team. For the most part by himself.
Mitch- also a hall of famer. Did nothing. Occasionally he would grimace at games. Was paid full salary but was only there half the time.
Matt- full time recruiter. Some say he was a really hard worker others say he wasn’t. We had talent. 4/5 talent.
Mullin, with out looking up. Maybe 5 players graduated. Probably 10/15 left the program. Some quit, transferred, or went pro. 0 players went to the NBA. We had a 4 star PG that just quit before the big east part of the schedule. Where else does that happen?
During games- our hero didn’t coach. When he payed attention he was either crying to the referees or challenging the other bench to a fight.
St. John’s has a history of winning. Our last coach was around 30 games over .500 in 5 years of coaching. Mullin was 20-59. In the last 3 years in the big east tournament we lost by an average of 40 points.(that’s from memory, I think it’s more) Mullins teams have given up 90 plus points probably 30 times. We gave up a 100 probably 10 times. Most of the 59 losses were complete blowouts.
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Guys can we please keep discussion on the game. Not each other.
Lets talk about how we got completely out rebounded today...
Let's talk about how you troll your own site and do a crappy job moderating the constant BS.
No wonder folks, myself included, has ran from this site. I popped my head in tonight and regret that I did so.
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Lets talk about how we got completely out rebounded today...
Are you expecting Roberts to grab 8 boards a game in conference play? Your not paying attention.
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Now that you click on his Twitter handle, pls at least admit that you were wrong in stating that he's likely Anderson's son or nephew
I would never click on anyone’s twitter profile here and I call him that in jest and will continue to do so as long as he only posts about how amazing Anderson is.
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Who is the lead x and o's assistant on this staff? Is it TJ?
What's up with Ian Steere?
Does every discussion here have to lead to Tony having Mullin's nuts on his chin?
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Guys can we please keep discussion on the game. Not each other.
Lets talk about how we got completely out rebounded today...
Being outrebounded is an overrated statistic. We missed 15 more field goals than Xavier (Due to our lack of shooting and their # of turnovers) and they outrebounded us by 9. We had more offensive rebounds than they had.
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Being outrebounded is an overrated statistic. We missed 15 more field goals than Xavier (Due to our lack of shooting and their # of turnovers) and they outrebounded us by 9. We had more offensive rebounds than they had.
was going to point out the same. rebounding was not the problem. 15 more field goals is a big margin.
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Who is the lead x and o's assistant on this staff? Is it TJ?
There isn’t a offense known to man that can cure lack of dribble and shooting ability. The team plays with great effort and it will keep us in games and even win some because of that alone but this is a rebuilding year. We literally have the worse roster in the BE don’t let anyone tell you otherwise.
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There isn’t a offense known to man that can cure lack of dribble and shooting ability. The team plays with great effort and it will keep us in games and even win some because of that alone but this is a rebuilding year. We literally have the worse roster in the BE don’t let anyone tell you otherwise.
CLEVELAND is in coaches ear more then anyone. Haven’t noticed anyone else talking at timeouts.
I agree for the most part about the lack of talent. But we do have 2 elite players. We need to do something to get them going.
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I’d be happy to once the savior talk and shots at Mullin die down.
Then talk about basketball, not personal insults, which are demeaning and useless, proving your point. Hopefully you are better than this.
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Then talk about basketball, not personal insults, which are demeaning and useless, proving your point. Hopefully you are better than this.
+100
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CLEVELAND is in coaches ear more then anyone. Haven’t noticed anyone else talking at timeouts.
I agree for the most part about the lack of talent. But we do have 2 elite players. We need to do something to get them going.
Heron's regressed. He's not making any All BE teams unless he has a miraculous turnaround. LJ is still a good contributor. Neither of them are true leaders. Both better as complementary pieces.
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Heron just can’t bring it against good teams but us dynamite against mediocre teams, it’s got to be a mindset
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Heron's regressed. He's not making any All BE teams unless he has a miraculous turnaround. LJ is still a good contributor. Neither of them are true leaders. Both better as complementary pieces.
Not disagreeing. Still hoping we can get more out of those 2.
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But maybe the expectations are to high.
What do you mean? We just traded the worst coach in the history of the universe for the best. I for one am ready to watch us soar.
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seems like he was an amazing player and was trending up as a coach each year, so why did he step down?
He was driven out by the unrealistic expectations of the worst fan base in creation and management teams that likes to remove coaches the second they qualify for the Ncaa.
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0 players went to the NBA.
Have you ever heard of Shamorie Ponds?
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We're 5 for 38 from three in BE play. That's all coaching right there. Mullin sure could teach shooting.
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But we do have 2 elite players. We need to do something to get them going.
Please assess the players talent for yourself. They are not elite players. What elite player can’t create a shot for themselves? They are good complementary pieces, but don’t have the skills to be successful if they’re the defenses primary target.
Heron played at Auburn and the year after he left they went to the final four. Last year they played with Ponds, and defenses had to respect Clark on the perimeter. The roster has to get better. You can’t win consistently in this league on effort and toughness alone. This is a rebuilding year, I love what I’m seeing so far. The future is bright.
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What do you mean? We just traded the worst coach in the history of the universe for the best. I for one am ready to watch us soar.
We moved on from one of the worse coaches in history to a very good coach, no one said the best. How do we know this to be true? In four years Mullin had a winning record once, a BE record of 20-52. In 17 seasons Anderson never had a losing record, and he’s not going to have one this year because he can coach. Why does that bother you so much? It’s not Anderson’s fault Mullin was awful.
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Please assess the players talent for yourself. They are not elite players. What elite player can’t create a shot for themselves? They are good complementary pieces, but don’t have the skills to be successful if they’re the defenses primary target.
Heron played at Auburn and the year after he left they went to the final four. Last year they played with Ponds, and defenses had to respect Clark on the perimeter. The roster has to get better. You can’t win consistently in this league on effort and toughness alone. This is a rebuilding year, I love what I’m seeing so far. The future is bright.
Elite may have been the wrong word. But they are very good players. As much as I like Anderson as a coach things can be done to get our 2 best offensive players better shots.
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Elite may have been the wrong word. But they are very good players. As much as I like Anderson as a coach things can be done to get our 2 best offensive players better shots.
Can you tell me what can be done to get them better shots? There were a couple times when they attempted to get Heron involved early and ran him off of some down screens which resulted in wide open looks. Heron missed the shots. At the end of the day the players need to make plays.
Most shots are going to be contested, players need to make plays.
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no one said the best.
My bad. The way posters lick his b*lls on here before he's accomplished anything, I just assumed he was the best.
Why does that bother you so much?
It doesn't bother me in the least. I'm just defending the face of the program, as we all should, and blowing back at the false narrative that our favored son was terrible and a new coach we don't know from Adam that thus far has done nothing is the bomb.
How about this fair deal? If CFC qualifies once for the Ncaa tournament in his first 3 years and twice in 4 years, if he lasts that long, I'll admit he's a better coach than Mullin.
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At the end of the day the players need to make plays.
Most shots are going to be contested, players need to make plays.
Now wait just one cotton picking minute. If Gil Scott doesn't go all John Starks on us and doesn't shoot 1 for 12; 0 for 5 from 3; with 1 assist and 4 turnovers last year against Hurley. Mullin pulls off the impossible and gets an Ncaa win at St. Johns, altering the course of history forever.
And you got the nerve to now say "players need to make plays" to defend CFC?
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Now wait just one cotton picking minute. If Gil Scott doesn't go all John Starks on us and shoots 1 for 12; 0 for 5 from 3; with 1 assist and 4 turnovers last year against Hurley. Mullin pulls off the impossible and gets an Ncaa win at St. Johns, altering the course of history forever.
And you got the nerve to now say "players need to make plays" to defend CFC?
I’m defending Andersons offensive system. The offensive system isn’t the problem. Same with Mullin and if someone said thats why Mullin lost in the playin game I would have said the same thing. Mullin lost games in general because he didn’t value the defensive side of the ball.
Once Anderson rebuilds this roster you’ll see they’ll be a better offensive team in the half court.
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I’m defending Andersons offensive system. The offensive system isn’t the problem. Same with Mullin and if someone said thats why Mullin lost in the playin game I would have said the same thing. Mullin lost games in general because he didn’t value the defensive side of the ball.
Once Anderson rebuilds this roster you’ll see they’ll be a better offensive team in the half court.
No, they won't. Just go to the Arkansas message boards. Same complaints every year:
* no half-court offense
* players standing around
* getting beat on the boards
* free throw shooting
* no inbound plays
His teams were always uneven. One year he had 8 or 9 seniors.
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My bad. The way posters lick his b*lls on here before he's accomplished anything, I just assumed he was the best. It doesn't bother me in the least. I'm just defending the face of the program, as we all should, and blowing back at the false narrative that our favored son was terrible and a new coach we don't know from Adam that thus far has done nothing is the bomb.
How about this fair deal? If CFC qualifies once for the Ncaa tournament in his first 3 years and twice in 4 years, if he lasts that long, I'll admit he's a better coach than Mullin.
I for one don't give a hoot what you admit just real tired of your defense of coach LAZY ass.
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No, they won't. Just go to the Arkansas message boards. Same complaints every year:
* no half-court offense
* players standing around
* getting beat on the boards
* free throw shooting
* no inbound plays
His teams were always uneven. One year he had 8 or 9 seniors.
The getting beat on the boards aspect seems inaccurate based on what I’ve seen thus far, but the other stuff is clear as day and has been relayed to us by multiple Arkansas fans.
We have the worst inbounds plays since I’ve been a fan. At the end of the Vermont game we literally didn’t have a play down 2 with 3 seconds inbounding the ball. Even CYO coaches have a play for that scenario.
He doesn’t seem to be able to utilize good scorers...just makes them go one on one. Heron would be filthy for Butler or Creighton.
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just real tired of your defense of coach LAZY ass.
Till the day I die and proud of it. Real St. John's fan right here.
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I for one don't give a hoot what you admit
If CFC doesn't dance around here for a few years or never, I'm going to have a chuckle when the Mullin haters admit he's better than the Razorback. I won't be happy about it but I'll have a laugh all the same.
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The getting beat on the boards aspect seems inaccurate based on what I’ve seen thus far, but the other stuff is clear as day and has been relayed to us by multiple Arkansas fans.
We have the worst inbounds plays since I’ve been a fan. At the end of the Vermont game we literally didn’t have a play down 2 with 3 seconds inbounding the ball. Even CYO coaches have a play for that scenario.
He doesn’t seem to be able to utilize good scorers...just makes them go one on one. Heron would be filthy for Butler or Creighton.
Because inbounds plays get talked about so often when talking about a lack of coaching, said no one ever :2funny:
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If CFC doesn't dance around here for a few years or never, I'm going to have a chuckle when the Mullin haters admit he's better than the Razorback. I won't be happy about it but I'll have a laugh all the same.
8-24. Blowout losses to St. Thomas, incarnate word, Fordham, NYIT. Winless vs D 1 schools in preseason tournament. 1-17 in conference. How could someone be worse?
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No, they won't. Just go to the Arkansas message boards. Same complaints every year:
* no half-court offense
* players standing around
* getting beat on the boards
* free throw shooting
* no inbound plays
His teams were always uneven. One year he had 8 or 9 seniors.
Anderson has won 9 NCAA tourney games since y’all even have won one, give the dude a little time geez.
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How could someone be worse?
By not qualifying for the Ncaa tournament in his first three seasons.
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Because inbounds plays get talked about so often when talking about a lack of coaching, said no one ever :2funny:
I will say St. Jean's success rate off of timeouts and inbound plays was pretty off the charts.
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I will say St. Jean's success rate off of timeouts and inbound plays was pretty off the charts.
I bash the staff more then anyone. Out of a timeout St. Jean was great. If the other team was taking a free throw and he had a chance to communicate with a guy or 2 we usually scored or got a really good look.
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I will say St. Jean's success rate off of timeouts and inbound plays was pretty off the charts.
That's all well and good but I'll take a coach who's focused on implementing strong rebounding and defensive principles over a coach who draws up good inbounds plays any day.
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No, they won't. Just go to the Arkansas message boards. Same complaints every year:
* no half-court offense
* players standing around
* getting beat on the boards
* free throw shooting
* no inbound plays
His teams were always uneven. One year he had 8 or 9 seniors.
This is not encouraging and is compounded by inferior incoming talent
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That's all well and good but I'll take a coach who's focused on implementing strong rebounding and defensive principles over a coach who draws up good inbounds plays any day.
Not really Greg’s fault. He should have been coaching JV basketball some where. The only way he should have gotten into a big East game was with a ticket.
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This is not encouraging and is compounded by inferior incoming talent
[/quoteThis is not encouraging and is compounded by inferior incoming talent
So we are back to the false narative of the recruits being inferior? Most fans are very happy with our class to date as they all are performing at a high level so far this season. HS recruits Posh and Wasu doing well against a national schedule as are the two JUCO recruits. Not to mention your talent evals over the years leave a lot to be desired.
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That's all well and good but I'll take a coach who's focused on implementing strong rebounding and defensive principles over a coach who draws up good inbounds plays any day.
Well considering we've been out rebounded by double digits in every conference game so far I feel like we've have a lot of things we can improve on.
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Well considering we've been out rebounded by double digits in every conference game so far I feel like we've have a lot of things we can improve on.
Our rebounding isn't the reason we have two losses in conference. Our lack of go to scorers is. Also we've improved tremendously on the glass overall this season which is much more than just two conference games.
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Not really Greg’s fault. He should have been coaching JV basketball some where. The only way he should have gotten into a big East game was with a ticket.
Agreed. He's just a kid so maybe in the next decade he'll get a HC gig at a lower level, hone his craft and go from there.
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https://twitter.com/FOXSportsPR/status/1214607660559032321
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