Moe and the 2012 Draft

Shawn Marion?  He has a horrifically ugly shot and somehow was a three point shooter for a US Olympic Team*.


*On second thought, we should just forget they even played basketball at the Olympics that year and never bring this topic up ever again.

Sean Marion is a sensational athlete.  Jones seems much stiffer to me.  But, yeah, what an ugly shot. 

Yeah I def would not have tj as second coming f Marion, just brining up another guy with an oh no shot who nevertheless had decent success from the outside.

Had a workout with the Magic today

Doug Gottlieb ranked his top 30 today.  He's a nice person but thought y'all might be interested anyway.  Has Moe at 17, MKG at 12 and Barnes in top 6 or so.  Has Royce White at number 5 as well.  Here's what he says about Moe:

17. Moe Harkless, St. John's Red Storm
I'm not totally sold on taking Kidd-Gilchrist ahead of Harkless, as Harkless has the scoring skill and perimeter ability that MKG lacks. Harkless does need to continue to improve his range, but as a 3 he has size, can rebound and definitely can score.

I'm starting to think Moe might get drafted higher than many think because if his potential.  Very possibly top 15. 

Shawn Marion?  He has a horrifically ugly shot and somehow was a three point shooter for a US Olympic Team*.


*On second thought, we should just forget they even played basketball at the Olympics that year and never bring this topic up ever again.

S Marion had unbelievable first step and quickness. Got to hoop from 30 ft out as fast as any guard.

On my Celtics sites, heard some rumors Moe is a target...I believe they are bringing him in for a workout soon.  Also heard the Celtics are considering packaging both their picks to trade up for "someone."  Not sure if the "someone" might be Moe, or maybe Lil Doc (though I doubt that), but I've always said that I think Moe is the type of player Ainge salivates over (history of drafting HS or underclassmen with first round picks --- Perkins, Gerald Green, Rondo (who they traded for that pick on draft day))

On my Celtics sites, heard some rumors Moe is a target...I believe they are bringing him in for a workout soon.  Also heard the Celtics are considering packaging both their picks to trade up for "someone."  Not sure if the "someone" might be Moe, or maybe Lil Doc (though I doubt that), but I've always said that I think Moe is the type of player Ainge salivates over (history of drafting HS or underclassmen with first round picks --- Perkins, Gerald Green, Rondo (who they traded for that pick on draft day))

Drifting OT here, Kid.  But on your Celtic sites (and as a UCLA/Lavin fan) - does it look like Ryan Hollins has done enuf to be invited back next season?

Yeah, CR, for the most part everyone is pretty happy with Hollins and would like him back.  I sure would.  A full year/training camp learning under the staff and mentoring by KG would do him wonders, I think.  The only "negatives" on Hollins is that he has taken time from Stiemsma, but I think part of that was actually due to lingering Stiemsma injuries.  Everyone has loved his energy!

“@ECoastBias: Moe Harkless' path to the 2012 NBA Draft: workout list, mock draft status #stjbb http://t.co/YrOERfDU”

http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/blog/_/name/nba_draft/id/7995832/2012-nba-draft-scenarios-top-10-picks

The Raptors expect to have big man Jonas Valanciunas with the team this season. If he were in this draft, I think he would've been the No. 2 overall pick. At No. 8, look for them to add a player to their backcourt who can go out and get his own shot. They've been looking hard at Syracuse's Dion Waiters, Washington's Terrence Ross, Lamb and Lillard. The one sleeper pick for them might be St. John's freshman Moe Harkless. Sources say he is in the mix at No. 8.

On my Celtics sites, heard some rumors Moe is a target...I believe they are bringing him in for a workout soon.  Also heard the Celtics are considering packaging both their picks to trade up for "someone."  Not sure if the "someone" might be Moe, or maybe Lil Doc (though I doubt that), but I've always said that I think Moe is the type of player Ainge salivates over (history of drafting HS or underclassmen with first round picks --- Perkins, Gerald Green, Rondo (who they traded for that pick on draft day))

I actually think the Celtics might be one of the better places for Moe longterm.  Can learn from and be the successor for Pierce, he would have a great PG who likes to run, be under a really good coach and management team, and if Moe gets to be big time he can be really marketable in a market like Boston.

I hate the Celtics (ever since Clyde was going against Jo Jo White) but it would be a good spot for Moe.

Yeah, CR, for the most part everyone is pretty happy with Hollins and would like him back.  I sure would.  A full year/training camp learning under the staff and mentoring by KG would do him wonders, I think.  The only "negatives" on Hollins is that he has taken time from Stiemsma, but I think part of that was actually due to lingering Stiemsma injuries.  Everyone has loved his energy!

Something I wonder if Boston fans realize, realtive to "Hollins taking time from Stiemsma".  While true Stiemsma is a promising Rookie this year after battling up from the D-league, and Hollins is a 6 year league veteren,  Steimsma was born Sept. 26, 1985.  Ryan Hollins is LESS than ONE year older - born October 10, 1984.  There's still "upside" to BOTH, but only one of them was also a college sprinter, a 7 foot 1  high Jumper (yes, he can jump an inch taller than he stands!), a 23 foot long jumper, and a 49 foot triple jumper - in other words, wth the right coaching and mentoring, it's possible the ceiling is actually higher still for Hollins...

Not sure if it was already posted but Chad Mock Mock 6th has Moe going to Celtics at 21.

Baldi and Majerus seen in New Rochelle breaking bread. Rick follows Baldi's advice! What a guy!

“@JonRothstein: Majerus also said he'd take St. John's F Moe Harkless ahead of Kentucky's Michael Kidd-Gilchrist.....big fan of the Red Storm wing.”

Per Chad Ford in his blog:

"Teams loved St. John's forward Moe Harkless as well. He shot the ball well in the workouts and just showed off his impressive athletic abilities. Many NBA scouts believe he could be one player that rises into the Top 10 by draft night."

http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/blog/_/name/nba_draft/id/8024902/nba-draft-lillard-white-impress-combine-day-1

real happy for hark.. he also seems like a character guy that would have no off court issues wherever he goes... Anywhere but Boston pleeeeasseeee...

Moe measured out very well at the combine today over 6'8 , Big hands and great reach