Is Sampson's recent rise propelling him to be 1 & done?

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Re: Is Sampson's recent rise propelling him to be 1 & done?
« Reply #160 on: March 04, 2013, 10:07:14 AM »
yes, it's a weak draft and, yes, jakarr has a ton of nba potential.  but has anyone seen jakarr even being mentioned as a possibility in the top half of the second round?  other than that zags article, is there any indication that he is a potential (even late) first rounder this year?

ford, sheridan, goodman, nba draft express, etc. etc. - no one has him even on the board. by comparison, moe was a projected late first rounder at this point last year in a much stronger draft
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Re: Is Sampson's recent rise propelling him to be 1 & done?
« Reply #161 on: March 04, 2013, 10:21:21 AM »
Mo was even higher on some lists at this point last year.

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Re: Is Sampson's recent rise propelling him to be 1 & done?
« Reply #162 on: March 04, 2013, 10:56:48 AM »
“@BigEastMBB: Georgetown F Otto Porter (25.0 ppg, 6.5 rpg) is the 3/4 BIG EAST Player of the Week. St. John's F JaKarr Sampson is Rookie of the Week.”

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Re: Is Sampson's recent rise propelling him to be 1 & done?
« Reply #163 on: March 04, 2013, 10:58:36 AM »
“@BigEastMBB: Georgetown F Otto Porter (25.0 ppg, 6.5 rpg) is the 3/4 BIG EAST Player of the Week. St. John's F JaKarr Sampson is Rookie of the Week.”

7 for Karr?
Could hit 8 and fall what 2 short of Melo?
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Re: Is Sampson's recent rise propelling him to be 1 & done?
« Reply #164 on: March 04, 2013, 11:02:45 AM »
“@BigEastMBB: Georgetown F Otto Porter (25.0 ppg, 6.5 rpg) is the 3/4 BIG EAST Player of the Week. St. John's F JaKarr Sampson is Rookie of the Week.”

7 for Karr?
Could hit 8 and fall what 2 short of Melo?

“@STJ_Basketball: Congrats to @KarrSampson14 on his 7th @BigEastMBB Rookie of the Week Honor! Fourth all-time in BE history behind Melo, AI, T-Murphy. #stjbb”

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Re: Is Sampson's recent rise propelling him to be 1 & done?
« Reply #165 on: March 04, 2013, 05:41:02 PM »
Sampson left off the list as a finalist for top freshmen.injured Noel made it...

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Re: Is Sampson's recent rise propelling him to be 1 & done?
« Reply #166 on: March 04, 2013, 05:43:40 PM »
Sampson left off the list as a finalist for top freshmen.injured Noel made it...

He should be left off. He's not the top freshman.

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Re: Is Sampson's recent rise propelling him to be 1 & done?
« Reply #167 on: March 04, 2013, 05:46:36 PM »
yes, it's a weak draft and, yes, jakarr has a ton of nba potential.  but has anyone seen jakarr even being mentioned as a possibility in the top half of the second round?  other than that zags article, is there any indication that he is a potential (even late) first rounder this year?

ford, sheridan, goodman, nba draft express, etc. etc. - no one has him even on the board. by comparison, moe was a projected late first rounder at this point last year in a much stronger draft

I like Jakarr very much. I don't understand how he has a ton of NBA potential. I think he has NBA potential provided he improves his ball handling, shooting range, passing, defense and overall strength.
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Re: Is Sampson's recent rise propelling him to be 1 & done?
« Reply #168 on: March 04, 2013, 06:02:53 PM »
yes, it's a weak draft and, yes, jakarr has a ton of nba potential.  but has anyone seen jakarr even being mentioned as a possibility in the top half of the second round?  other than that zags article, is there any indication that he is a potential (even late) first rounder this year?

ford, sheridan, goodman, nba draft express, etc. etc. - no one has him even on the board. by comparison, moe was a projected late first rounder at this point last year in a much stronger draft

I like Jakarr very much. I don't understand how he has a ton of NBA potential. I think he has NBA potential provided he improves his ball handling, shooting range, passing, defense and overall strength.

cant teach nba length, athleticism, bounce, instincts.  needs a better handle and shot, needs to mind the defensive glass a little better, and needs to add 25 pounds of muscle. 

but i hear what you are saying, and it seems the blogging experts agree that he is not ready

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Re: Is Sampson's recent rise propelling him to be 1 & done?
« Reply #169 on: March 04, 2013, 06:11:22 PM »
 I don't think there is a rational person on here that think JS is ready to go to the NBA.

 How many 19 year olds are?  Not many. LeBron, Durant, and Kyrie are three recents that were no-brainers. 

My point is that we all pretty much agree that he needs to stay but it doesn't matter what we think.  Every year 10-15 kids with no business entering the draft do just that.  Some get lucky, most don't. 

 As far as being on a national list for Freshman of the year, of course he should be on the list. BE rookie of the week 7 times.  Pretty sure only Carmelo Anthony has more. Pretty impressive for a kid playing in real good conference. 

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Re: Is Sampson's recent rise propelling him to be 1 & done?
« Reply #170 on: March 04, 2013, 06:18:15 PM »
Sampson left off the list as a finalist for top freshmen.injured Noel made it...

He should be left off. He's not the top freshman.

So BE Freshman of the year shouldnt be on National List?
Uh ok.....
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Re: Is Sampson's recent rise propelling him to be 1 & done?
« Reply #171 on: March 04, 2013, 06:20:55 PM »
Poison-  who is the best Freshman in the country in your opinion?

For me... easy,  Ben McLemore... I'd take him number one in the draft if i had the pick.  Not a very good draft. In a good or great year, McLemore would be between 7-10 IMO.

Re: Is Sampson's recent rise propelling him to be 1 & done?
« Reply #172 on: March 04, 2013, 06:32:41 PM »
Poison-  who is the best Freshman in the country in your opinion?

For me... easy,  Ben McLemore... I'd take him number one in the draft if i had the pick.  Not a very good draft. In a good or great year, McLemore would be between 7-10 IMO.

I think he is better than any freshmen but wouldn't give it to him because he redshirted last year.

I think Bennett on UNLV is the next best player but hasn't got that much recognition.
*wipes ketchup from his eyes* - I guess Heinz sight isn’t 20/20.

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Re: Is Sampson's recent rise propelling him to be 1 & done?
« Reply #173 on: March 04, 2013, 07:01:03 PM »
Poison-  who is the best Freshman in the country in your opinion?

For me... easy,  Ben McLemore... I'd take him number one in the draft if i had the pick.  Not a very good draft. In a good or great year, McLemore would be between 7-10 IMO.

Ben McLemore is great. Definitely, I'd take him. Glenn Robinson, Jordan Adams, Jahii Carson, Marcus Smart is also great. Anthony Bennett and Shabazz Muhammed are very strong as well.

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Re: Is Sampson's recent rise propelling him to be 1 & done?
« Reply #174 on: March 04, 2013, 07:02:22 PM »
Sampson left off the list as a finalist for top freshmen.injured Noel made it...

He should be left off. He's not the top freshman.

So BE Freshman of the year shouldnt be on National List?
Uh ok.....

No, not this year.

Re: Is Sampson's recent rise propelling him to be 1 & done?
« Reply #175 on: March 04, 2013, 07:04:03 PM »
see: Quincy Miller

I would say JS and QM are very similar both in their games, and in their draft position. Different stats, but much different situations where Quincy was on a loaded team and JS get's all the minutes he wants.

Quincy went late second round.

Re: Is Sampson's recent rise propelling him to be 1 & done?
« Reply #176 on: March 04, 2013, 07:06:19 PM »
see: Quincy Miller

I would say JS and QM are very similar both in their games, and in their draft position. Different stats, but much different situations where Quincy was on a loaded team and JS get's all the minutes he wants.

Quincy went late second round.

Though Quincy was more moe than JaKarr.
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« Reply #177 on: March 04, 2013, 07:18:10 PM »
“@STJ_Basketball: Seven-time BIG EAST Rookie of the Week @KarrSampson14 previews Notre Dame and discusses the state of #stjbb: http://www.redstormsports.com/blog/2013/03/st-johns-basketball-jakarr-sampson-interview.html

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Re: Is Sampson's recent rise propelling him to be 1 & done?
« Reply #178 on: March 04, 2013, 07:22:48 PM »
No mention of Otto Porter?  Kid will be a good pro.  Same size as jakarr but more range at this point.  Porter's game wasn't ready as a freshman either.  Jakarr needs muscle, more range, and some work in a few other areas.  Doesn't mean jakarr won't grow as. Payer but leaps and bounds like guys like Porter and Oladipo. 

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Re: Is Sampson's recent rise propelling him to be 1 & done?
« Reply #179 on: March 04, 2013, 07:48:22 PM »
No mention of Otto Porter?  Kid will be a good pro.  Same size as jakarr but more range at this point.  Porter's game wasn't ready as a freshman either.  Jakarr needs muscle, more range, and some work in a few other areas.  Doesn't mean jakarr won't grow as. Payer but leaps and bounds like guys like Porter and Oladipo. 

Remember in reality Porter and Karr are same class.
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