6th Man of St. John's Basketball
St. John's Red Storm => Recruiting Archives => Recruiting => 2012 Class => Topic started by: jumpinjohnny on January 10, 2012, 12:31:44 AM
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Did not see a thread started on him yet...
http://www.friarbasketball.net/2011/10/catching-up-with-orlando-sanchezs-coach.html (http://www.friarbasketball.net/2011/10/catching-up-with-orlando-sanchezs-coach.html)
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Per Zags twitter....
Sources say #stjbb coach Steve Lavin will watch Lincoln and 2014 Isaiah Whitehead today and 6-9 JUCO F Orlando Sanchez of Monroe tonight
http://twitter.com/# (http://twitter.com/#)!/AdamZagoria/status/159377191115833344
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Going to see this kid play tonight. People I have spoken to about him really love his game. Hear there are a few questions about non-academic-related eligibility. I'll give a report on here tonight about the game.
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Going to see this kid play tonight. People I have spoken to about him really love his game. Hear there are a few questions about non-academic-related eligibility. I'll give a report on here tonight about the game.
Did he play for some pro team or something?
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Going to see this kid play tonight. People I have spoken to about him really love his game. Hear there are a few questions about non-academic-related eligibility. I'll give a report on here tonight about the game.
Did he play for some pro team or something?
Moose - you hear anything else about MD's involvement? All's quiet down here after Zags' 12/27 piece.
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Just got back from seeing him. Overall I'm a fan. He's about 6'8", and a fairly refined perimeter forward who can really REALLY pass the ball. He's got great hands and he can knock down that midrange jumpshot. His body is pretty good and I think he's more refined than guys like Sampson or Obekpa (he is older obviously). However there were times tonight that he really didnt appear to be playing that hard in terms of running with his full motor. I also heard in terms of SJU he was wondering how he would fit in with Harkless in the front court (with Moe also being a perimeter forward). I don't see this as a problem, however. Sanchez is EXTREMELY unselfish and he would be a great passer out of the high post. His points also come within the flow of the offense and the kid doesn't seem eager to "get his". Overall I would be a fan of adding him for next year if he would be eligible. He's not the pure rebounder like Gathers or Obekpa but he's more refined and can do different things than those guys can. I'm gonna try to see Sanchez once or twice more this year because he plays so close to where I live.
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Just got back from seeing him. Overall I'm a fan. He's about 6'8", and a fairly refined perimeter forward who can really REALLY pass the ball. He's got great hands and he can knock down that midrange jumpshot. His body is pretty good and I think he's more refined than guys like Sampson or Obekpa (he is older obviously). However there were times tonight that he really didnt appear to be playing that hard in terms of running with his full motor. I also heard in terms of SJU he was wondering how he would fit in with Harkless in the front court (with Moe also being a perimeter forward). I don't see this as a problem, however. Sanchez is EXTREMELY unselfish and he would be a great passer out of the high post. His points also come within the flow of the offense and the kid doesn't seem eager to "get his". Overall I would be a fan of adding him for next year if he would be eligible. He's not the pure rebounder like Gathers or Obekpa but he's more refined and can do different things than those guys can. I'm gonna try to see Sanchez once or twice more this year because he plays so close to where I live.
So whats the story with the eligibilty you mentioned being non academic?
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I've heard there's some type of issue with him possibly playing in a pro league overseas before he came to the US (sorta like the Kanter case)
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Is he Latino also?
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Is he Latino also?
He's from the Dominican Republic.
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Is he Latino also?
Did you think he was Irish :)
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Is he Latino also?
Did you think he was Irish :)
No but maybe Moe can help recruit him too? ;)
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Just got back from seeing him. Overall I'm a fan. He's about 6'8", and a fairly refined perimeter forward who can really REALLY pass the ball. He's got great hands and he can knock down that midrange jumpshot. His body is pretty good and I think he's more refined than guys like Sampson or Obekpa (he is older obviously). However there were times tonight that he really didnt appear to be playing that hard in terms of running with his full motor. I also heard in terms of SJU he was wondering how he would fit in with Harkless in the front court (with Moe also being a perimeter forward). I don't see this as a problem, however. Sanchez is EXTREMELY unselfish and he would be a great passer out of the high post. His points also come within the flow of the offense and the kid doesn't seem eager to "get his". Overall I would be a fan of adding him for next year if he would be eligible. He's not the pure rebounder like Gathers or Obekpa but he's more refined and can do different things than those guys can. I'm gonna try to see Sanchez once or twice more this year because he plays so close to where I live.
Appreciate the report, TRab. Sounds like Sanchez is worth adding to this young core.
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http://www.zagsblog.com/2012/01/30/orlando-sanchez-remains-wide-open/ (http://www.zagsblog.com/2012/01/30/orlando-sanchez-remains-wide-open/)
Sanchez has interest or offers from St. John’s, Providence, Mississippi State, Cincinnati, West Virginia, Oregon, FIU, Baylor, UConn, Iowa State, Texas A&M and Rhode Island.
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Not on the list but Kentucky is a major player for Sanchez. He played for Calipari in the DR and if Kentucky needs/wants him thats a done deal. Also I wouldn't discount, Baldi is going to love this, Iona as a player for his services.
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Not on the list but Kentucky is a major player for Sanchez. He played for Calipari in the DR and if Kentucky needs/wants him thats a done deal. Also I wouldn't discount, Baldi is going to love this, Iona as a player for his services.
I think Kentucky is lurking, when it comes to Sanchez, in case they don't land the other kids they are targeting. IMO, Iona is probably a longshot candidate.
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Not on the list but Kentucky is a major player for Sanchez. He played for Calipari in the DR and if Kentucky needs/wants him thats a done deal. Also I wouldn't discount, Baldi is going to love this, Iona as a player for his services.
I think Kentucky is lurking, when it comes to Sanchez, in case they don't land the other kids they are targeting. IMO, Iona is probably a longshot candidate.
If Iona beats us out for Sanchez, Baldi will need to create his own website to contain all of his crowing. ;)
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He got an offer from Georgetown yesterday according to Zags.
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Not on the list but Kentucky is a major player for Sanchez. He played for Calipari in the DR and if Kentucky needs/wants him thats a done deal. Also I wouldn't discount, Baldi is going to love this, Iona as a player for his services.
I think Kentucky is lurking, when it comes to Sanchez, in case they don't land the other kids they are targeting. IMO, Iona is probably a longshot candidate.
If Iona beats us out for Sanchez, Baldi will need to create his own website to contain all of his crowing. ;)
This would be the final nail in the coffin. What would be worse, losing him to Iona or Georgetown?
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I dont post much, but i read the posts from jj and rmdcom. everyday, But i would rather lose out to georgetown any day of the week! If we lose out to Iona on this kid i would put on a g-string on with high heels as well, and parade up and down times square with my hairy legs exposed all day long. :D
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I dont post much, but i read the posts from jj and rmdcom. everyday, But i would rather lose out to georgetown any day of the week! If we lose out to Iona on this kid i would put on a g-string on with high heels as well, and parade up and down times square with my hairy legs exposed all day long. :D
Sounds like the duties of a "student assistant"
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I dont post much, but i read the posts from jj and rmdcom. everyday, But i would rather lose out to georgetown any day of the week! If we lose out to Iona on this kid i would put on a g-string on with high heels as well, and parade up and down times square with my hairy legs exposed all day long. :D
Frightening thought.. You don't post much and come out with the guns blazing g string post? I'm thinking that Iona better not get this kid.. who is with me?? ;)
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when you think about it, who you having a better time playing for JT3 or Cluess?
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Not on the list but Kentucky is a major player for Sanchez. He played for Calipari in the DR and if Kentucky needs/wants him thats a done deal. Also I wouldn't discount, Baldi is going to love this, Iona as a player for his services.
I think Kentucky is lurking, when it comes to Sanchez, in case they don't land the other kids they are targeting. IMO, Iona is probably a longshot candidate.
If Iona beats us out for Sanchez, Baldi will need to create his own website to contain all of his crowing. ;)
This would be the final nail in the coffin. What would be worse, losing him to Iona or Georgetown?
Have you heard anything if MD is still being considered?
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Not on the list but Kentucky is a major player for Sanchez. He played for Calipari in the DR and if Kentucky needs/wants him thats a done deal. Also I wouldn't discount, Baldi is going to love this, Iona as a player for his services.
I think Kentucky is lurking, when it comes to Sanchez, in case they don't land the other kids they are targeting. IMO, Iona is probably a longshot candidate.
If Iona beats us out for Sanchez, Baldi will need to create his own website to contain all of his crowing. ;)
This would be the final nail in the coffin. What would be worse, losing him to Iona or Georgetown?
Have you heard anything if MD is still being considered?
MD?
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Not on the list but Kentucky is a major player for Sanchez. He played for Calipari in the DR and if Kentucky needs/wants him thats a done deal. Also I wouldn't discount, Baldi is going to love this, Iona as a player for his services.
I think Kentucky is lurking, when it comes to Sanchez, in case they don't land the other kids they are targeting. IMO, Iona is probably a longshot candidate.
If Iona beats us out for Sanchez, Baldi will need to create his own website to contain all of his crowing. ;)
This would be the final nail in the coffin. What would be worse, losing him to Iona or Georgetown?
Yea, but we have more playing time to offer than Iona and Georgetown :)
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Not on the list but Kentucky is a major player for Sanchez. He played for Calipari in the DR and if Kentucky needs/wants him thats a done deal. Also I wouldn't discount, Baldi is going to love this, Iona as a player for his services.
I think Kentucky is lurking, when it comes to Sanchez, in case they don't land the other kids they are targeting. IMO, Iona is probably a longshot candidate.
If Iona beats us out for Sanchez, Baldi will need to create his own website to contain all of his crowing. ;)
This would be the final nail in the coffin. What would be worse, losing him to Iona or Georgetown?
Yea, but we have more playing time to offer than Iona and Georgetown :)
That's been making such a difference with all our other recruits, I can't see why it wouldn't work on Sanchez. Apparently playing time is irresistible to these kids.
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Not sure if this video was posted earlier.
Orlando Sanchez Highlight Video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lpTLx9-Ftfo#ws)
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He's a lot more explosive than I expected.
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On Friar TV...do they show highlights of there 2 Big East wins? :)
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I thought a few people had this kid was on the "skinny" side. He looks pretty well built in that video.
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Second time I have read that Providence is in good shape with him.
“@KevinMcNamara33: Providence working hard on signing Juco big man Orlando Sanchez. So are others http://t.co/6VqHl0mm (http://t.co/6VqHl0mm)”
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Second time I have read that Providence is in good shape with him.
“@KevinMcNamara33: Providence working hard on signing Juco big man Orlando Sanchez. So are others http://t.co/6VqHl0mm (http://t.co/6VqHl0mm)”
They can have him if we get Jakarr and Obepka.
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Second time I have read that Providence is in good shape with him.
“@KevinMcNamara33: Providence working hard on signing Juco big man Orlando Sanchez. So are others http://t.co/6VqHl0mm (http://t.co/6VqHl0mm)”
I've heard that he is a heavy lean for them and will most likely end up there
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Second time I have read that Providence is in good shape with him.
“@KevinMcNamara33: Providence working hard on signing Juco big man Orlando Sanchez. So are others http://t.co/6VqHl0mm (http://t.co/6VqHl0mm)”
They can have him if we get Jakarr and Obepka.
Agree totally... I'd prefer it. In fact, I'd venture to guess Sanchez is likely their last ship.
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Second time I have read that Providence is in good shape with him.
“@KevinMcNamara33: Providence working hard on signing Juco big man Orlando Sanchez. So are others http://t.co/6VqHl0mm (http://t.co/6VqHl0mm)”
They can have him if we get Jakarr and Obepka.
"if"
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Must be recess time.
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Second time I have read that Providence is in good shape with him.
“@KevinMcNamara33: Providence working hard on signing Juco big man Orlando Sanchez. So are others http://t.co/6VqHl0mm (http://t.co/6VqHl0mm)”
They can have him if we get Jakarr and Obepka.
"if"
Someone who only has access to a computer on weekends should put more effort into their posts, I think.
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"if"
(http://ts1.mm.bing.net/images/thumbnail.aspx?q=1625389532004&id=029a5deb2e4651d8607c5506e2a93b39)
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Second time I have read that Providence is in good shape with him.
“@KevinMcNamara33: Providence working hard on signing Juco big man Orlando Sanchez. So are others http://t.co/6VqHl0mm (http://t.co/6VqHl0mm)”
They can have him if we get Jakarr and Obepka.
"if"
I always appreciate a tribute to David Gates....
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I didn't even need to google the reference.
Yikes, I'm old. ;D
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absolutely ZERO insider knowledge here, but my gut tells me Sanchez is our next verbal.
Here's my prediction for this class:
1. Felix
2. Sanchez
3. Obekpa
4. Hall (he'll verbal but won't qualify)
5. Morris
Sampson goes to PC.
If Harkless stays, the above group is a good compliment to our team and we'll be dangerous.
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absolutely ZERO insider knowledge here, but my gut tells me Sanchez is our next verbal.
Here's my prediction for this class:
1. Felix
2. Sanchez
3. Obekpa
4. Hall (he'll verbal but won't qualify)
5. Morris
Sampson goes to PC.
If Harkless stays, the above group is a good compliment to our team and we'll be dangerous.
We need more size than that. We don't have one interior defender. Adding 2 still keeps us light inside.
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absolutely ZERO insider knowledge here, but my gut tells me Sanchez is our next verbal.
Here's my prediction for this class:
1. Felix
2. Sanchez
3. Obekpa
4. Hall (he'll verbal but won't qualify)
5. Morris
Sampson goes to PC.
If Harkless stays, the above group is a good compliment to our team and we'll be dangerous.
Don't be so quick to write off Sampson.
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absolutely ZERO insider knowledge here, but my gut tells me Sanchez is our next verbal.
Here's my prediction for this class:
1. Felix
2. Sanchez
3. Obekpa
4. Hall (he'll verbal but won't qualify)
5. Morris
Sampson goes to PC.
If Harkless stays, the above group is a good compliment to our team and we'll be dangerous.
Don't be so quick to write off Sampson.
What is Sampson waiting for?
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What is Sampson waiting for?
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Moe to decide--maybe he doesn't want to fight him for minutes.
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Jesus think about a Harrison/Greene/Moe/Sampson/Obepka starting unit to begin next year. BEAST.
Only in dreams though.
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Jesus think about a Harrison/Greene/Moe/Sampson/Obepka starting unit to begin next year. BEAST.
Only in dreams though.
I'd never bet against Garrett. He'd start in that group and we'd just play small.
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Garrett was arguably the second/third (depending on who was having an off night) best all around player at the end of the year.
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branch/harrison/moe/sampson/obekpa... garrett first guy off bench
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branch/harrison/moe/sampson/obekpa... garrett first guy off bench
were all getting ahead of our selves here. But I think lav would for sure start sampson/moe/harrison. and i think he would have garret start along with branch.
Then he has bigs to come off the bench in GG and obekpa, and guards/wings to stir up the tempo in pointer and greene.
Lets just pray that it comes to fruition.
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branch/harrison/moe/sampson/obekpa... garrett first guy off bench
were all getting ahead of our selves here. But I think lav would for sure start sampson/moe/harrison. and i think he would have garret start along with branch.
Then he has bigs to come off the bench in GG and obekpa, and guards/wings to stir up the tempo in pointer and greene.
Lets just pray that it comes to fruition.
but if it happens like that then moes gone. he only wants to be the biggest guy in the lineup from now on in extreme situations, he wants to play his natural position on the wing and play big from there
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is he a juco soph or freshman?
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is he a juco soph or freshman?
Sanchez is Soph. Will have 2 yrs left.
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branch/harrison/moe/sampson/obekpa... garrett first guy off bench
were all getting ahead of our selves here. But I think lav would for sure start sampson/moe/harrison. and i think he would have garret start along with branch.
Then he has bigs to come off the bench in GG and obekpa, and guards/wings to stir up the tempo in pointer and greene.
Lets just pray that it comes to fruition.
You never know. He notoriously started Sean Farnham over Dan Gadzuric at UCLA :)
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branch/harrison/moe/sampson/obekpa... garrett first guy off bench
were all getting ahead of our selves here. But I think lav would for sure start sampson/moe/harrison. and i think he would have garret start along with branch.
Then he has bigs to come off the bench in GG and obekpa, and guards/wings to stir up the tempo in pointer and greene.
Lets just pray that it comes to fruition.
but if it happens like that then moes gone. he only wants to be the biggest guy in the lineup from now on in extreme situations, he wants to play his natural position on the wing and play big from there
Moe would play the four with Sampson at the five. And a lot more three with 3 guys bigger than him in sampson/gg/obekpa
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branch/harrison/moe/sampson/obekpa... garrett first guy off bench
were all getting ahead of our selves here. But I think lav would for sure start sampson/moe/harrison. and i think he would have garret start along with branch.
Then he has bigs to come off the bench in GG and obekpa, and guards/wings to stir up the tempo in pointer and greene.
Lets just pray that it comes to fruition.
but if it happens like that then moes gone. he only wants to be the biggest guy in the lineup from now on in extreme situations, he wants to play his natural position on the wing and play big from there
Moe would play the four with Sampson at the five. And a lot more three with 3 guys bigger than him in sampson/gg/obekpa
sampson isnt bigger then him they were the same height in is8 and rememebr moe grew that summer.
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branch/harrison/moe/sampson/obekpa... garrett first guy off bench
were all getting ahead of our selves here. But I think lav would for sure start sampson/moe/harrison. and i think he would have garret start along with branch.
Then he has bigs to come off the bench in GG and obekpa, and guards/wings to stir up the tempo in pointer and greene.
Lets just pray that it comes to fruition.
but if it happens like that then moes gone. he only wants to be the biggest guy in the lineup from now on in extreme situations, he wants to play his natural position on the wing and play big from there
Moe would play the four with Sampson at the five. And a lot more three with 3 guys bigger than him in sampson/gg/obekpa
sampson isnt bigger then him they were the same height in is8 and rememebr moe grew that summer.
I always thought moe was taller than listed. Who knows weather of not he has grown since that time, watching jakarr he seems just as tall and more physical, and in my opinion if both were on the floor together moe would play either the 3 or 4 while jakarr would pay the 4 or 5
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branch/harrison/moe/sampson/obekpa... garrett first guy off bench
were all getting ahead of our selves here. But I think lav would for sure start sampson/moe/harrison. and i think he would have garret start along with branch.
Then he has bigs to come off the bench in GG and obekpa, and guards/wings to stir up the tempo in pointer and greene.
Lets just pray that it comes to fruition.
but if it happens like that then moes gone. he only wants to be the biggest guy in the lineup from now on in extreme situations, he wants to play his natural position on the wing and play big from there
Moe would play the four with Sampson at the five. And a lot more three with 3 guys bigger than him in sampson/gg/obekpa
sampson isnt bigger then him they were the same height in is8 and rememebr moe grew that summer.
I always thought moe was taller than listed. Who knows weather of not he has grown since that time, watching jakarr he seems just as tall and more physical, and in my opinion if both were on the floor together moe would play either the 3 or 4 while jakarr would pay the 4 or 5
The three and the four are nearly indistinguishable in the current system. Out of necessity, Moe had to hang around the hoop more, but that won't happen next year if he stays and we add depth.
If we keep Moe and add Sampson, it will be a run and gun show.
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branch/harrison/moe/sampson/obekpa... garrett first guy off bench
were all getting ahead of our selves here. But I think lav would for sure start sampson/moe/harrison. and i think he would have garret start along with branch.
Then he has bigs to come off the bench in GG and obekpa, and guards/wings to stir up the tempo in pointer and greene.
Lets just pray that it comes to fruition.
but if it happens like that then moes gone. he only wants to be the biggest guy in the lineup from now on in extreme situations, he wants to play his natural position on the wing and play big from there
Moe would play the four with Sampson at the five. And a lot more three with 3 guys bigger than him in sampson/gg/obekpa
Way to scare of JaKarr-highly doubt he wants to play the 5. That"s what helped scare off Gathers.
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I thought Gathers was a tough guy. It did not scare off Glover, and Blair would laugh while guarding a -
7-1. Where do we get one of them guys.
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What is Sampson waiting for?
Moe to decide--maybe he doesn't want to fight him for minutes.
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I think we have plenty of minutes to spare.
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this is an old article about Sanchez' visit to Providence:
"Cooley has been preaching family since taking over at Providence, and one of the newest members of the Friar family built a bond with Sanchez on his visit to PC. “Orlando’s unofficial went well. He had a great conversation with Coach Cooley’s wife [Nurys], who is also from the Dominican Republic, and he really enjoyed his visit to the Dunkin Donuts Center.”
http://www.friarbasketball.net/2011/10/catching-up-with-orlando-sanchezs-coach.html (http://www.friarbasketball.net/2011/10/catching-up-with-orlando-sanchezs-coach.html)
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this is an old article about Sanchez' visit to Providence:
"Cooley has been preaching family since taking over at Providence, and one of the newest members of the Friar family built a bond with Sanchez on his visit to PC. “Orlando’s unofficial went well. He had a great conversation with Coach Cooley’s wife [Nurys], who is also from the Dominican Republic, and he really enjoyed his visit to the Dunkin Donuts Center.”
http://www.friarbasketball.net/2011/10/catching-up-with-orlando-sanchezs-coach.html (http://www.friarbasketball.net/2011/10/catching-up-with-orlando-sanchezs-coach.html)
Moe and Felipe Lopez > Cooley's wife
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this is an old article about Sanchez' visit to Providence:
"Cooley has been preaching family since taking over at Providence, and one of the newest members of the Friar family built a bond with Sanchez on his visit to PC. “Orlando’s unofficial went well. He had a great conversation with Coach Cooley’s wife [Nurys], who is also from the Dominican Republic, and he really enjoyed his visit to the Dunkin Donuts Center.”
http://www.friarbasketball.net/2011/10/catching-up-with-orlando-sanchezs-coach.html (http://www.friarbasketball.net/2011/10/catching-up-with-orlando-sanchezs-coach.html)
Moe and Felipe Lopez > Cooley's wife
Not if she went to the Mrs. Bernie Fine School of Hospitality
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this is an old article about Sanchez' visit to Providence:
"Cooley has been preaching family since taking over at Providence, and one of the newest members of the Friar family built a bond with Sanchez on his visit to PC. “Orlando’s unofficial went well. He had a great conversation with Coach Cooley’s wife [Nurys], who is also from the Dominican Republic, and he really enjoyed his visit to the Dunkin Donuts Center.”
http://www.friarbasketball.net/2011/10/catching-up-with-orlando-sanchezs-coach.html (http://www.friarbasketball.net/2011/10/catching-up-with-orlando-sanchezs-coach.html)
Moe and Felipe Lopez > Cooley's wife
Moe is Dominican?
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this is an old article about Sanchez' visit to Providence:
"Cooley has been preaching family since taking over at Providence, and one of the newest members of the Friar family built a bond with Sanchez on his visit to PC. “Orlando’s unofficial went well. He had a great conversation with Coach Cooley’s wife [Nurys], who is also from the Dominican Republic, and he really enjoyed his visit to the Dunkin Donuts Center.”
http://www.friarbasketball.net/2011/10/catching-up-with-orlando-sanchezs-coach.html (http://www.friarbasketball.net/2011/10/catching-up-with-orlando-sanchezs-coach.html)
Moe and Felipe Lopez > Cooley's wife
Moe is Dominican?
He has some Latin American its been said.
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Invite him to the school and let me be his tour guide. I will take him to Corona and Washington Heights. I will guarantee I get him to sign the dotted line the first day of the signing period. :angel:
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Providence aggressive on Obekpa and a big kid from Michigan, named Williams. I'm told door could swing in SJU favor on Sanchez. Let's see. Was Lavin at his practice yesterday?
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I saw on his twitter that he was at a JUCO practice yesterday, just dont know which one. Thought it might be Monroe but I am not sure.
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;) Should we be buying a few Dominican flags next week?
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;) Should we be buying a few Dominican flags next week?
Would love that
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http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1345030 (http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1345030)
4. Is Orlando Sanchez the top available junior college big man?
During Monroe College's 2011 run at the national championship, 6-8 power forward Orlando Sanchez looked the part of a potential high major prospect. Now a sophomore, he has made good on his potential and established himself as a bona fide high-major target who is attracting interest from Cincinnati, Providence, Pittsburgh, St. John's and Texas A&M among others. He's mobile, rebounds and has become an effective scorer while averaging 10 points and more than seven rebounds per game on a very balanced team that enters the tourney ranked No. 3. Of any of the available bigs in the tournament, he may have the most established reputation and just how good he is will be a big factor for Monroe as it makes a run at the title.
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http://www.ihigh.com/njcaatv/broadcast_212371.html?silverlight=1 (http://www.ihigh.com/njcaatv/broadcast_212371.html?silverlight=1)
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Funny they're playing Dwight Hardy's old school
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Funny they're playing Dwight Hardy's old school
With Dustin Hogue from Yonkers.
Similar to Kelvin Amayo but Hogue has to be like 23 by now.
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http://www.ihigh.com/njcaatv/broadcast_212371.html?silverlight=1 (http://www.ihigh.com/njcaatv/broadcast_212371.html?silverlight=1)
Thanks for the link.. First observation is that Sanchez can really handle the rock for a guy his size. Good stuff.
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Impressed w Marco's game, team oriented, smart and looks like he has a nice stroke.
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Impressed w Marco's game, team oriented, smart and looks like he has a nice stroke.
Really like how quickly he moves the ball around
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Impressed w Marco's game, team oriented, smart and looks like he has a nice stroke.
Not saying that he is no good.. And I certainly couldn't tell from one game.. But what game are you watching? I have been watching for the last 15 minutes and Marco has been invisible. Sanchez on the other hand seems Big East ready right now .
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Like Sanchez athleticism, rebounding and shooting. Get him Lavs!!
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Remember when Dwight Buycks was the focus of the offense and outscoring Dwight Hardy at Indian Hills? How did that translate into Big East. Juco ball is funny.
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Impressed w Marco's game, team oriented, smart and looks like he has a nice stroke.
Not saying that he is no good.. And I certainly couldn't tell from one game.. But what game are you watching? I have been watching for the last 15 minutes and Marco has been invisible. Sanchez on the other hand seems Big East ready right now .
Just observing him making a few plays early. Was not getting rock much, but seems poised and smart. Moves well without ball, but did not get it back much. We'll see.
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Impressed w Marco's game, team oriented, smart and looks like he has a nice stroke.
Not saying that he is no good.. And I certainly couldn't tell from one game.. But what game are you watching? I have been watching for the last 15 minutes and Marco has been invisible. Sanchez on the other hand seems Big East ready right now .
First shot he took was a nice dish from Sanchez and he drilled it. He's missed his last 2. One was an airball I think.
No doubt he is option 5 in the starting lineup.
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There is a St. John's assistant in attendance at the game. I believe it's Tony Chiles but confirming
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Impressed w Marco's game, team oriented, smart and looks like he has a nice stroke.
Not saying that he is no good.. And I certainly couldn't tell from one game.. But what game are you watching? I have been watching for the last 15 minutes and Marco has been invisible. Sanchez on the other hand seems Big East ready right now .
His running mates dont really like to pass much. I think Marco would fit in nice. You can tell he has good court awarness
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Impressed w Marco's game, team oriented, smart and looks like he has a nice stroke.
Not saying that he is no good.. And I certainly couldn't tell from one game.. But what game are you watching? I have been watching for the last 15 minutes and Marco has been invisible. Sanchez on the other hand seems Big East ready right now .
Just observing him making a few plays early. Was not getting rock much, but seems poised and smart. Moves well without ball, but did not get it back much. We'll see.
I'm sure he is a good player and the staff likes him .. Which works for me . :). Sanchez looks really really good.
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There is a St. John's assistant in attendance at the game. I believe it's Tony Chiles but confirming
So they have someone they can verbal to? ;)
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Marshall looks like he could play at a higher level than Liberty, but, as Dave noted, JUCO games are hard to gauge.
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“@jeffborzello: RT @ebosshoops: Orlando Sanchez is balling. He and teammate shooter Marco Bourgault linked heavily to St. John's”
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“@jeffborzello: RT @ebosshoops: Orlando Sanchez is balling. He and teammate shooter Marco Bourgault linked heavily to St. John's”
Like the sound of that.
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He's a heads up player and he can rebound. Looks like a good role player.
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An accurate description IMO.
“@ebosshoops: Orlando Sanchez plays WAY above the rim in transition. Needs strength but has ball skills and is a fluid 6-8 guy.”
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Nice drive, spin and dish from Marco to Orlando for the jam.
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Will this game be replayed? really would like to watch what you guys are talking about.
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Will this game be replayed? really would like to watch what you guys are talking about.
Believe the video will be achieved for replay. See the bottom of the link.
http://www.ihigh.com/njcaatv/broadcast_212371.html?silverlight=1 (http://www.ihigh.com/njcaatv/broadcast_212371.html?silverlight=1)
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Will this game be replayed? really would like to watch what you guys are talking about.
Believe the video will be achieved for replay. See the bottom of the link.
http://www.ihigh.com/njcaatv/broadcast_212371.html?silverlight=1 (http://www.ihigh.com/njcaatv/broadcast_212371.html?silverlight=1)
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Will this game be replayed? really would like to watch what you guys are talking about.
Believe the video will be achieved for replay. See the bottom of the link.
http://www.ihigh.com/njcaatv/broadcast_212371.html?silverlight=1 (http://www.ihigh.com/njcaatv/broadcast_212371.html?silverlight=1)
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thanks fellas
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Would feel better after he commits to us, knowing we have another ,much needed, quality big under our belt.
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IMO Sanchez could have a solid impact on team, ALA Justin Brownlee.
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IMO Sanchez could have a solid impact on team, ALA Justin Brownlee.
have you seen him play live?
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“@ebosshoops: @rgsaunders1 @tflanny23 Tweeted earlier, lots of St. John's talk circulating the arena for Sanchez.”
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“@ebosshoops: @rgsaunders1 @tflanny23 Tweeted earlier, lots of St. John's talk circulating the arena for Sanchez.”
Cue Providence fans jumping off bridge.
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As I wrote in here after the 2 times I saw him in person this year, I truly believe that Orlando Sanchez will be a pro. Also heard he won't have much problem gaining eligibility. REALLY hoping we get him.
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paultzman how would you compare him to GG?
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paultzman how would you compare him to GG?
Way way way more athletic
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As I wrote in here after the 2 times I saw him in person this year, I truly believe that Orlando Sanchez will be a pro. Also heard he won't have much problem gaining eligibility. REALLY hoping we get him.
Did you post something else about eligibilty when you first saw him?
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paultzman how would you compare him to GG?
It's not even close. Orlando has much better hands, a pretty consistent midrange jumpshot, probably 2 inches bigger, runs the floor better and is an extremely impressive passer.
Orlando takes ridiculously long strides when he runs. Can use some work on some of the finite footwork but I really believe the kid is an NBA player.
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As I wrote in here after the 2 times I saw him in person this year, I truly believe that Orlando Sanchez will be a pro. Also heard he won't have much problem gaining eligibility. REALLY hoping we get him.
Same here.. I never comment on a kid until I see him.. I also like seeing someone more than once... I was really impressed by Sanchez today. Kid did a little of everything very well. Crossing my fingers as well :)
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As I wrote in here after the 2 times I saw him in person this year, I truly believe that Orlando Sanchez will be a pro. Also heard he won't have much problem gaining eligibility. REALLY hoping we get him.
Did you post something else about eligibilty when you first saw him?
Yes but I've heard all will likely be good
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IMO Sanchez could have a solid impact on team, ALA Justin Brownlee.
have you seen him play live?
Once, plus today. In concert w other reports, rtc., enough to formulate an opinion.
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Remember when Dwight Buycks was the focus of the offense and outscoring Dwight Hardy at Indian Hills? How did that translate into Big East. Juco ball is funny.
Buck's stats were nearly identical to Hardy's at Indian Hill's. High school and juco can be funny like that, though, I agree. Harkless was out scored regularly by Ledo and Moe is a legit first rounder while Ledo will never see a minute in the league. Some guy's just have a game built for success the further they go..me thinks Sanchez is that kind of player.
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Lets get this kid to sign on the dotted line.
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As I wrote in here after the 2 times I saw him in person this year, I truly believe that Orlando Sanchez will be a pro. Also heard he won't have much problem gaining eligibility. REALLY hoping we get him.
Yea? You think he's that good?
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Brad Winton who runs maybe the best Juco Recruiting site tweeted:
@JUCO RECRUITING: Orlando Sanchez of Monroe starting to get loose. Handful of dunks and a face up jumper. He will make a high major happy when he commits
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Brad Winton who runs maybe the best Juco Recruiting site tweeted:
@JUCO RECRUITING: Orlando Sanchez of Monroe starting to get loose. Handful of dunks and a face up jumper. He will make a high major happy when he commits
Did I miss something ? Are we out with Obekpa ? Or does the loss of Moe allow us to get both. We still need a drop dead shooter. Don't think Morris fits that bill. Any possibilities ?
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Brad Winton who runs maybe the best Juco Recruiting site tweeted:
@JUCO RECRUITING: Orlando Sanchez of Monroe starting to get loose. Handful of dunks and a face up jumper. He will make a high major happy when he commits
Did I miss something ? Are we out with Obekpa ? Or does the loss of Moe allow us to get both. We still need a drop dead shooter. Don't think Morris fits that bill. Any possibilities ?
Where you been?
You missed a lot.
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As noted in Rumble in Garden article today, should not expect Marco/Sanchez commitments until season completed.
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IMO Sanchez could have a solid impact on team, ALA Justin Brownlee.
I saw some brownlee in his game today. I really liked what I saw. Perfect fit for our system.
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As noted in Rumble in Garden article today, should not expect Marco/Sanchez commitments until season completed.
Do you know when that would be? When do the Juco playoffs end?
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As noted in Rumble in Garden article today, should not expect Marco/Sanchez commitments until season completed.
Do you know when that would be? When do the Juco playoffs end?
He plays everyday until he loses. Championship is Saturday I believe
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As noted in Rumble in Garden article today, should not expect Marco/Sanchez commitments until season completed.
Do you know when that would be? When do the Juco playoffs end?
He plays everyday until he loses. Championship is Saturday I believe
Isn't there a losers bracket in this tourney?
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Brad Winton who runs maybe the best Juco Recruiting site tweeted:
@JUCO RECRUITING: Orlando Sanchez of Monroe starting to get loose. Handful of dunks and a face up jumper. He will make a high major happy when he commits
Did I miss something ? Are we out with Obekpa ? Or does the loss of Moe allow us to get both. We still need a drop dead shooter. Don't think Morris fits that bill. Any possibilities ?
Where you been?
You missed a lot.
Sorry. Not feeling great. Been out of work for two weeks. I'll survive but anybody got a quick recap ?
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Brad Winton who runs maybe the best Juco Recruiting site tweeted:
@JUCO RECRUITING: Orlando Sanchez of Monroe starting to get loose. Handful of dunks and a face up jumper. He will make a high major happy when he commits
Did I miss something ? Are we out with Obekpa ? Or does the loss of Moe allow us to get both. We still need a drop dead shooter. Don't think Morris fits that bill. Any possibilities ?
Where you been?
You missed a lot.
Sorry. Not feeling great. Been out of work for two weeks. I'll survive but anybody got a quick recap ?
Well first of all your favorite poster returned to Redmen :)
Obekpa ship has sailed.
Sanchez and his teammate Bourgeault are getting a lot of STJ interest. And the feeling is mutual.
Staff is also pushing for Michael Chandler who prepped this year but didn't play ball.
Carlos Morris and Thad Hall still lingering around.
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Brad Winton who runs maybe the best Juco Recruiting site tweeted:
@JUCO RECRUITING: Orlando Sanchez of Monroe starting to get loose. Handful of dunks and a face up jumper. He will make a high major happy when he commits
Did I miss something ? Are we out with Obekpa ? Or does the loss of Moe allow us to get both. We still need a drop dead shooter. Don't think Morris fits that bill. Any possibilities ?
Where you been?
You missed a lot.
Sorry. Not feeling great. Been out of work for two weeks. I'll survive but anybody got a quick recap ?
Well first of all your favorite poster returned to Redmen :)
Obekpa ship has sailed.
Sanchez and his teammate Bourgeault are getting a lot of STJ interest. And the feeling is mutual.
Staff is also pushing for Michael Chandler who prepped this year but didn't play ball.
Carlos Morris and Thad Hall still lingering around.
Thanks. Glad to know I can have some fun on Redmen. Ha ha. Have to check that out :laugh: I thought Balamou was a prelude to Obekpa. What happened and where is he going ? Hall might not qualify and Morris isn't the knock down shooter we need. Sanchez sounds very interesting but do we have to take Bourgeault to get him ?
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Brad Winton who runs maybe the best Juco Recruiting site tweeted:
@JUCO RECRUITING: Orlando Sanchez of Monroe starting to get loose. Handful of dunks and a face up jumper. He will make a high major happy when he commits
Did I miss something ? Are we out with Obekpa ? Or does the loss of Moe allow us to get both. We still need a drop dead shooter. Don't think Morris fits that bill. Any possibilities ?
Where you been?
You missed a lot.
Sorry. Not feeling great. Been out of work for two weeks. I'll survive but anybody got a quick recap ?
Well first of all your favorite poster returned to Redmen :)
Obekpa ship has sailed.
Sanchez and his teammate Bourgeault are getting a lot of STJ interest. And the feeling is mutual.
Staff is also pushing for Michael Chandler who prepped this year but didn't play ball.
Carlos Morris and Thad Hall still lingering around.
Thanks. Glad to know I can have some fun on Redmen. Ha ha. Have to check that out :laugh: I thought Balamou was a prelude to Obekpa. What happened and where is he going ? Hall might not qualify and Morris isn't the knock down shooter we need. Sanchez sounds very interesting but do we have to take Bourgeault to get him ?
Morris is a shooter
As is Bourgeault
Be mindful of backcourt minutes. Harrison, Branch and Greene will be dominating minutes.
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Brad Winton who runs maybe the best Juco Recruiting site tweeted:
@JUCO RECRUITING: Orlando Sanchez of Monroe starting to get loose. Handful of dunks and a face up jumper. He will make a high major happy when he commits
Did I miss something ? Are we out with Obekpa ? Or does the loss of Moe allow us to get both. We still need a drop dead shooter. Don't think Morris fits that bill. Any possibilities ?
Where you been?
You missed a lot.
Sorry. Not feeling great. Been out of work for two weeks. I'll survive but anybody got a quick recap ?
Well first of all your favorite poster returned to Redmen :)
Obekpa ship has sailed.
Sanchez and his teammate Bourgeault are getting a lot of STJ interest. And the feeling is mutual.
Staff is also pushing for Michael Chandler who prepped this year but didn't play ball.
Carlos Morris and Thad Hall still lingering around.
Thanks. Glad to know I can have some fun on Redmen. Ha ha. Have to check that out :laugh: I thought Balamou was a prelude to Obekpa. What happened and where is he going ? Hall might not qualify and Morris isn't the knock down shooter we need. Sanchez sounds very interesting but do we have to take Bourgeault to get him ?
Morris is a shooter
As is Bourgeault
Be mindful of backcourt minutes. Harrison, Branch and Greene will be dominating minutes.
Read the Bourgeault thread. Sounds good. We need a shooter. Doesn't have to play 20-25 minutes. Just someone to come in and provide a shooter when D'Lo is out and an alternative when he isn't. I know Coach is big on wings but I want another shooter.
Back to Obekpa. Why are we out ?
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Brad Winton who runs maybe the best Juco Recruiting site tweeted:
@JUCO RECRUITING: Orlando Sanchez of Monroe starting to get loose. Handful of dunks and a face up jumper. He will make a high major happy when he commits
Did I miss something ? Are we out with Obekpa ? Or does the loss of Moe allow us to get both. We still need a drop dead shooter. Don't think Morris fits that bill. Any possibilities ?
Where you been?
You missed a lot.
Sorry. Not feeling great. Been out of work for two weeks. I'll survive but anybody got a quick recap ?
Well first of all your favorite poster returned to Redmen :)
Obekpa ship has sailed.
Sanchez and his teammate Bourgeault are getting a lot of STJ interest. And the feeling is mutual.
Staff is also pushing for Michael Chandler who prepped this year but didn't play ball.
Carlos Morris and Thad Hall still lingering around.
Thanks. Glad to know I can have some fun on Redmen. Ha ha. Have to check that out :laugh: I thought Balamou was a prelude to Obekpa. What happened and where is he going ? Hall might not qualify and Morris isn't the knock down shooter we need. Sanchez sounds very interesting but do we have to take Bourgeault to get him ?
Morris is a shooter
As is Bourgeault
Be mindful of backcourt minutes. Harrison, Branch and Greene will be dominating minutes.
Read the Bourgeault thread. Sounds good. We need a shooter. Doesn't have to play 20-25 minutes. Just someone to come in and provide a shooter when D'Lo is out and an alternative when he isn't. I know Coach is big on wings but I want another shooter.
Back to Obekpa. Why are we out ?
Word is Cincy for Obekpa. He had a weird tweet a week ago or so. Basically saying his heart wasn't into STJ. Something like that.
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Brad Winton who runs maybe the best Juco Recruiting site tweeted:
@JUCO RECRUITING: Orlando Sanchez of Monroe starting to get loose. Handful of dunks and a face up jumper. He will make a high major happy when he commits
Did I miss something ? Are we out with Obekpa ? Or does the loss of Moe allow us to get both. We still need a drop dead shooter. Don't think Morris fits that bill. Any possibilities ?
Where you been?
You missed a lot.
Sorry. Not feeling great. Been out of work for two weeks. I'll survive but anybody got a quick recap ?
Well first of all your favorite poster returned to Redmen :)
Obekpa ship has sailed.
Sanchez and his teammate Bourgeault are getting a lot of STJ interest. And the feeling is mutual.
Staff is also pushing for Michael Chandler who prepped this year but didn't play ball.
Carlos Morris and Thad Hall still lingering around.
Thanks. Glad to know I can have some fun on Redmen. Ha ha. Have to check that out :laugh: I thought Balamou was a prelude to Obekpa. What happened and where is he going ? Hall might not qualify and Morris isn't the knock down shooter we need. Sanchez sounds very interesting but do we have to take Bourgeault to get him ?
Morris is a shooter
As is Bourgeault
Be mindful of backcourt minutes. Harrison, Branch and Greene will be dominating minutes.
Read the Bourgeault thread. Sounds good. We need a shooter. Doesn't have to play 20-25 minutes. Just someone to come in and provide a shooter when D'Lo is out and an alternative when he isn't. I know Coach is big on wings but I want another shooter.
Back to Obekpa. Why are we out ?
Word is Cincy for Obekpa. He had a weird tweet a week ago or so. Basically saying his heart wasn't into STJ. Something like that.
Also tweeted that we 'don' pay
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May be jumping the gun but from what I just saw Sanchise 2 would be a perfect replacement for MO and could just about equal his production which makes Jakarr above and beyond and Chandler added would be sick. If this all goes down it will be awesome and more than takes the sting out of losing Mo. Add any of the guards we are mentioned with and we will have a deep well rounded team which in 2 yrs will be a final 4 threat.
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“@ebosshoops: Orlando Sanchez was most intriguing guy for me today. Fluid and skilled. Not an alpha scorer, but capable of doing lots.”
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May be jumping the gun but from what I just saw Sanchise 2 would be a perfect replacement for MO and could just about equal his production which makes Jakarr above and beyond and Chandler added would be sick. If this all goes down it will be awesome and more than takes the sting out of losing Mo. Add any of the guards we are mentioned with and we will have a deep well rounded team which in 2 yrs will be a final 4 threat.
You think he can replace the production of the Roy? I think he will be a great piece but let's not get crazy.
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May be jumping the gun but from what I just saw Sanchise 2 would be a perfect replacement for MO and could just about equal his production which makes Jakarr above and beyond and Chandler added would be sick. If this all goes down it will be awesome and more than takes the sting out of losing Mo. Add any of the guards we are mentioned with and we will have a deep well rounded team which in 2 yrs will be a final 4 threat.
You think he can replace the production of the Roy? I think he will be a great piece but let's not get crazy.
Hey Gman, we almost had 2 ROY players this past year with Harrison and Harkless. Our staff is getting the talent so who knows? Bringing in 6 guys with varying abilities IMO will certainly be able to match the production. We might have another few kids challenge for ROY like Sampson? Who knows, but don't put it past them yet...
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Wait he tweeted we don't pay? He pu that shit on twitter? What's wrong with this kid
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Wait he tweeted we don't pay? He pu that shit on twitter? What's wrong with this kid
Obekpa did not Sanchez. He deleted it shortly after but I think someone pasted what he said in his thread
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Wait he tweeted we don't pay? He pu that shit on twitter? What's wrong with this kid
Obekpa did not Sanchez. He deleted it shortly after but I think someone pasted what he said in his thread
Yeah, good for us but bad for Obekpa. Pretty dopey.
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Monroe game being streamed at 6
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Wait he tweeted we don't pay? He pu that shit on twitter? What's wrong with this kid
A lot of people don't realize that they are writing a message for everyone to see as opposed to an individual. People like Anthony Weiner.
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Whats the link?
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I think the game is at 7est
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Wait he tweeted we don't pay? He pu that shit on twitter? What's wrong with this kid
Obekpa did not Sanchez. He deleted it shortly after but I think someone pasted what he said in his thread
Yeah, good for us but bad for Obekpa. Pretty dopey.
Why was it good for us?
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http://www.ihigh.com/njcaatv/broadcast_212402.html?silverlight=1 (http://www.ihigh.com/njcaatv/broadcast_212402.html?silverlight=1)
Indicates 6pm, but not on yet
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http://www.ihigh.com/njcaatv/broadcast_212402.html?silverlight=1 (http://www.ihigh.com/njcaatv/broadcast_212402.html?silverlight=1)
Indicates 6pm, but not on yet
6pm cst
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6 pm CST, 7 pm EST.
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Wait he tweeted we don't pay? He pu that shit on twitter? What's wrong with this kid
Obekpa did not Sanchez. He deleted it shortly after but I think someone pasted what he said in his thread
Yeah, good for us but bad for Obekpa. Pretty dopey.
Why was it good for us?
Because after a tweet like that and he picks a school, one would think that school pays.
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Wait he tweeted we don't pay? He pu that shit on twitter? What's wrong with this kid
Obekpa did not Sanchez. He deleted it shortly after but I think someone pasted what he said in his thread
Yeah, good for us but bad for Obekpa. Pretty dopey.
Why was it good for us?
Elementary Watson
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Been alot of travel violations called in this game. Haven't seen this many since we had Nurideen Lindsey.
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6 pm CST, 7 pm EST.
What longitude and latitude? :)
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Wait he tweeted we don't pay? He pu that shit on twitter? What's wrong with this kid
Obekpa did not Sanchez. He deleted it shortly after but I think someone pasted what he said in his thread
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Yeah, good for us but bad for Obekpa. Pretty dopey.
Why was it good for us?
Because after a tweet like that and he picks a school, one would think that school pays.
I thaught he was joking. Nobody could be that stupid to put that on a public tweet if serious. Or could they?
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Wait he tweeted we don't pay? He pu that shit on twitter? What's wrong with this kid
Obekpa did not Sanchez. He deleted it shortly after but I think someone pasted what he said in his thread
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Yeah, good for us but bad for Obekpa. Pretty dopey.
Why was it good for us?
Because after a tweet like that and he picks a school, one would think that school pays.
I thaught he was joking. Nobody could be that stupid to put that on a public tweet if serious. Or could they?
:)
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Uh...this twitter thing, does anyone look at it? You're the only one that's gonna see it, right? :idiot2:
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Monroe lost to South Plains and will play tomorrow and if they win will play Saturday for 3rd place.
Marco had 11 pts on 5/9 shooting, no treys, but 5 Rebs
Orlando had, 8 pts & 13 Rebs & 4 blocks.
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orlando mate a lo rudy fernandez. ADB HELLIN (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCeGCDUuqac#)
amazing athleticism!!!
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was just offered
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was just offered
'just' offered?
He was offered awhile back I'm pretty sure.
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By the way the soccer dunk in that video would win an NBA Slam Dunk contest.
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was just offered
'just' offered?
He was offered awhile back I'm pretty sure.
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St Johns just made an offer to 6'8" big Orlando Sanchez from Monroe College. #stjbb #goredstorm #gojohnnies
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I want this kid more every time i see him
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was just offered
'just' offered?
He was offered awhile back I'm pretty sure.
this was posted 59 minutes ago
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St Johns just made an offer to 6'8" big Orlando Sanchez from Monroe College. #stjbb #goredstorm #gojohnnies
Thanks for citing it but technically not buying it. He was offered awhile back. Semantics either way.
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was just offered
'just' offered?
He was offered awhile back I'm pretty sure.
this was posted 59 minutes ago
NYC HOOPS dotnet@NYCHoopsReply
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St Johns just made an offer to 6'8" big Orlando Sanchez from Monroe College. #stjbb #goredstorm #gojohnnies
Thanks for citing it but technically not buying it. He was offered awhile back. Semantics either way.
yeah i agree
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was just offered
'just' offered?
He was offered awhile back I'm pretty sure.
this was posted 59 minutes ago
NYC HOOPS dotnet@NYCHoopsReply
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St Johns just made an offer to 6'8" big Orlando Sanchez from Monroe College. #stjbb #goredstorm #gojohnnies
Thanks for citing it but technically not buying it. He was offered awhile back. Semantics either way.
Moose 100% correct on this. Believe me.
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C'mon guys you know the spot to find the most accurate news first
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C'mon guys you know the spot to find the most accurate news first
Of course, Zags ;)
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I'm guessing he was stickied by mistake?
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I'm guessing he was stickied by mistake?
Yupp it wasn't me this time thankfully. It was one of the other mods, I fixed it.
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C'mon guys you know the spot to find the most accurate news first
Baldi and Lenn Robbins
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C'mon guys you know the spot to find the most accurate news first
Baldi and Lenn Robbins
Lenn Robbins has been pretty good. Besides Moe, in late January he had a tweet that Sampson was leaning heavily towards St. Johns.
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C'mon guys you know the spot to find the most accurate news first
Baldi and Lenn Robbins
Lenn Robbins has been pretty good. Besides Moe, in late January he had a tweet that Sampson was leaning heavily towards St. Johns.
Lenn even showed up to the bigeastboards party a few years back. Good job outta him
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C'mon guys you know the spot to find the most accurate news first
Baldi and Lenn Robbins
Lenn Robbins has been pretty good. Besides Moe, in late January he had a tweet that Sampson was leaning heavily towards St. Johns.
Lenn even showed up to the bigeastboards party a few years back. Good job outta him
And promptly lied to everyone's face.
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C'mon guys you know the spot to find the most accurate news first
Baldi and Lenn Robbins
Lenn Robbins has been pretty good. Besides Moe, in late January he had a tweet that Sampson was leaning heavily towards St. Johns.
Lenn even showed up to the bigeastboards party a few years back. Good job outta him
And promptly lied to everyone's face.
LOL about what?
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C'mon guys you know the spot to find the most accurate news first
Baldi and Lenn Robbins
Lenn Robbins has been pretty good. Besides Moe, in late January he had a tweet that Sampson was leaning heavily towards St. Johns.
Lenn even showed up to the bigeastboards party a few years back. Good job outta him
And promptly lied to everyone's face.
LOL about what?
Come on Baldi. You were there. He was trashing Norm. Remember when he was supposed to be writing the piece that was going to be very critical of Norm and then wrote that puff piece
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C'mon guys you know the spot to find the most accurate news first
Baldi and Lenn Robbins
Lenn Robbins has been pretty good. Besides Moe, in late January he had a tweet that Sampson was leaning heavily towards St. Johns.
Lenn even showed up to the bigeastboards party a few years back. Good job outta him
And promptly lied to everyone's face.
LOL about what?
Come on Baldi. You were there. He was trashing Norm. Remember when he was supposed to be writing the piece that was going to be very critical of Norm and then wrote that puff piece
That's pretty funny actually!
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C'mon guys you know the spot to find the most accurate news first
Baldi and Lenn Robbins
Lenn Robbins has been pretty good. Besides Moe, in late January he had a tweet that Sampson was leaning heavily towards St. Johns.
Lenn even showed up to the bigeastboards party a few years back. Good job outta him
And promptly lied to everyone's face.
LOL about what?
Come on Baldi. You were there. He was trashing Norm. Remember when he was supposed to be writing the piece that was going to be very critical of Norm and then wrote that puff piece
Lenn hightailed out it of there right after Baldi, Marillac, Tha Kid, Carmine and Dave started doing body shots off one another. He would have said anything to get out of there.
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C'mon guys you know the spot to find the most accurate news first
Baldi and Lenn Robbins
Lenn Robbins has been pretty good. Besides Moe, in late January he had a tweet that Sampson was leaning heavily towards St. Johns.
Lenn even showed up to the bigeastboards party a few years back. Good job outta him
And promptly lied to everyone's face.
LOL about what?
Come on Baldi. You were there. He was trashing Norm. Remember when he was supposed to be writing the piece that was going to be very critical of Norm and then wrote that puff piece
Lenn hightailed out it of there right after Baldi, Marillac, Tha Kid, Carmine and Dave started doing body shots off one another. He would have said anything to get out of there.
Bro, last thing I remember was teabaggin wasju in the ladies room
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Did he play tonight or is the 3rd place game tomorrow?
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Did he play tonight or is the 3rd place game tomorrow?
Don't think its 3rd place game. Consolation bracket is for like 5th place I thought.
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Did he play tonight or is the 3rd place game tomorrow?
Don't think its 3rd place game. Consolation bracket is for like 5th place I thought.
Better watchout. Grasso in the gym
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Did he play tonight or is the 3rd place game tomorrow?
Don't think its 3rd place game. Consolation bracket is for like 5th place I thought.
Better watchout. Grasso in the gym
Ha. He can have one of their shot hoisting guards.
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Did he play tonight or is the 3rd place game tomorrow?
Don't think its 3rd place game. Consolation bracket is for like 5th place I thought.
Better watchout. Grasso in the gym
Ha. He can have one of their shot hoisting guards.
Thats not what Im hearing. lol I'll take Marco. I can still hear Willard crying in the corner
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http://njcaabbtrny.org/home/boxscores/2012/BoxScore_Gm15.htm (http://njcaabbtrny.org/home/boxscores/2012/BoxScore_Gm15.htm)
They won....Sanchez 8pts 9rebs
Marco 10pts 5rebs 5asst
They play Saturday at 2pm
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C'mon guys you know the spot to find the most accurate news first
Baldi and Lenn Robbins
Lenn Robbins has been pretty good. Besides Moe, in late January he had a tweet that Sampson was leaning heavily towards St. Johns.
Lenn even showed up to the bigeastboards party a few years back. Good job outta him
And promptly lied to everyone's face.
LOL about what?
Come on Baldi. You were there. He was trashing Norm. Remember when he was supposed to be writing the piece that was going to be very critical of Norm and then wrote that puff piece
Lenn hightailed out it of there right after Baldi, Marillac, Tha Kid, Carmine and Dave started doing body shots off one another. He would have said anything to get out of there.
Bro, last thing I remember was teabaggin wasju in the ladies room
If We Are SJU isn't like a 5'6 blonde with a tiny waste and huge bust... Then I just lost all respect for you Baldi.
Don't settle man! You're better than that.
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Another reason Sanchez would be a great pickup for us is that he'll spread out the scholarship situation. Over the next few years, the staff has to ensure that a situation like last season never happens again.
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Another reason Sanchez would be a great pickup for us is that he'll spread out the scholarship situation. Over the next few years, the staff has to ensure that a situation like last season never happens again.
No staff other than our last is that dumb.
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Did he play tonight or is the 3rd place game tomorrow?
Don't think its 3rd place game. Consolation bracket is for like 5th place I thought.
Why, are the first 4 place finishers all considered champions? :) Losers bracket games can start immediately to determine who finishes 1 through 16. Definitely games for 3rd 5th 7th.
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Another reason Sanchez would be a great pickup for us is that he'll spread out the scholarship situation. Over the next few years, the staff has to ensure that a situation like last season never happens again.
No staff other than our last is that dumb.
Lol... Agreed. Norm was panicking and thought that landing sheer volume of players would stop the bleeding. Lavin's approach is polar opposite. Lavin doesn't reach on players and is much more careful with his ships.
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If We Are SJU isn't like a 5'6 blonde with a tiny waste and huge bust...
WASJU saw where the night was heading and pulled a Cuban exit. I think Bluto was just fantasizing about me, but I think it was Dave he attempted to molest. In fairness if you watched the Iona choke job in the tourney you would see that Iona had the ugliest cheerleaders in the nation, so Dave was probably a big upgrade for Bluto. .
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why no seeming interest from pitino?
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why no seeming interest from pitino?
I think he has 24 guys on scholarship already for next year.
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why no seeming interest from pitino?
I don't know but I missed your congratulations post for SJU re-securing the commitment of JaKarr Sampson thus denying you the inevitable "Ed Cooley is the man" post under JaKarr's thread.
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why no seeming interest from pitino?
I don't know but I missed your congratulations post for SJU re-securing the commitment of JaKarr Sampson thus denying you the inevitable "Ed Cooley is the man" post under JaKarr's thread.
Ha! I think he is Ed Cooley.
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Sanchez is filled with potential
This was the second year in a row that we've been able to watch Orlando Sanchez play a pair of ballgames for Monroe College in Hutch. While his numbers remain about the same, it's easily evident that the product of the Dominican Republic has diversified what he can do.
Standing a legitimate 6-foot-8, Sanchez is a gifted athlete. He doesn't just ran fast and jump high though, he's got functional athleticism in that he can change directions, and is quick side to side. Not only that, he retains his athleticism while making basketball plays with the ball in his hands.
Last year, Sanchez was a transition finisher who also held things down on the glass. This year, he's much more diverse and has proven that he is a skillful ballhandler and passer who can also shoot the ball with some range. He played a lot on the wing over the summer with the Dominican national team and that experience allows him to be comfortable facing the basket.
Currently, St. John's and Providence are probably the two biggest factors in his recruitment. While Cincinnati, Kansas State, Pittsburgh, Oregon and several others have interest, the people helping him out would prefer that he stay closer to home to help ease the process of moving to Division I ball in a foreign country where he's just learning the language.
A four-star prospect, Sanchez will most likely begin his NCAA career playing the power forward. However, because of his skill and fluidity, he appears capable of making a legitimate transition out to the wing at some point down the road.
Finally, Sanchez isn't a prospect who yet fits into the category of sure thing. He has to get stronger and he has to use his tools to make a more consistent impact on the game from start to finish rather than floating in and out of the action.
http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1346684 (http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1346684)
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From the one game I watched on the net this eval is spot on.
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C'mon guys you know the spot to find the most accurate news first
Baldi and Lenn Robbins
Lenn Robbins has been pretty good. Besides Moe, in late January he had a tweet that Sampson was leaning heavily towards St. Johns.
Lenn even showed up to the bigeastboards party a few years back. Good job outta him
And promptly lied to everyone's face.
LOL about what?
Come on Baldi. You were there. He was trashing Norm. Remember when he was supposed to be writing the piece that was going to be very critical of Norm and then wrote that puff piece
That's pretty funny actually!
Yeah in hindsight it is but at the time we were f'ing pissed.
Lenn was a totally phony and flat out liar. That's why his opinion in certain articles is worth nothing. He might break news sometimes but he's shown flat out what he writes isn't necessarily his opinion which to me makes him worth cr@p.
On a separate note that same party was a lot of fun. PMG arranged it. At the time redmen was closed and people were killing the site so I thought I was going to be walking into a hornets nest other than people who I was already friends with like PMG and some others.
Turned out to be a blast. Get everyone in a room and provide alcohol and the hatefest ends. lol.. And who's gonna fight when KOB shows up as an enforcer and you can hear Marillac/Turasi stories
Seriously though a lot of people there from BEB and the Jungle aside from the phony Robbins. Was a real fun night
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C'mon guys you know the spot to find the most accurate news first
Baldi and Lenn Robbins
Lenn Robbins has been pretty good. Besides Moe, in late January he had a tweet that Sampson was leaning heavily towards St. Johns.
Lenn even showed up to the bigeastboards party a few years back. Good job outta him
And promptly lied to everyone's face.
LOL about what?
Come on Baldi. You were there. He was trashing Norm. Remember when he was supposed to be writing the piece that was going to be very critical of Norm and then wrote that puff piece
That's pretty funny actually!
Yeah in hindsight it is but at the time we were f'ing pissed.
Lenn was a totally phony and flat out liar. That's why his opinion in certain articles is worth nothing. He might break news sometimes but he's shown flat out what he writes isn't necessarily his opinion which to me makes him worth cr@p.
On a separate note that same party was a lot of fun. PMG arranged it. At the time redmen was closed and people were killing the site so I thought I was going to be walking into a hornets nest other than people who I was already friends with like PMG and some others.
Turned out to be a blast. Get everyone in a room and provide alcohol and the hatefest ends. lol.. And who's gonna fight when KOB shows up as an enforcer and you can hear Marillac/Turasi stories
Seriously though a lot of people there from BEB and the Jungle aside from the phony Robbins. Was a real fun night
What did Robbins lie about? I might be the most ignorant bastard here
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C'mon guys you know the spot to find the most accurate news first
Baldi and Lenn Robbins
Lenn Robbins has been pretty good. Besides Moe, in late January he had a tweet that Sampson was leaning heavily towards St. Johns.
Lenn even showed up to the bigeastboards party a few years back. Good job outta him
And promptly lied to everyone's face.
LOL about what?
Come on Baldi. You were there. He was trashing Norm. Remember when he was supposed to be writing the piece that was going to be very critical of Norm and then wrote that puff piece
That's pretty funny actually!
Yeah in hindsight it is but at the time we were f'ing pissed.
Lenn was a totally phony and flat out liar. That's why his opinion in certain articles is worth nothing. He might break news sometimes but he's shown flat out what he writes isn't necessarily his opinion which to me makes him worth cr@p.
On a separate note that same party was a lot of fun. PMG arranged it. At the time redmen was closed and people were killing the site so I thought I was going to be walking into a hornets nest other than people who I was already friends with like PMG and some others.
Turned out to be a blast. Get everyone in a room and provide alcohol and the hatefest ends. lol.. And who's gonna fight when KOB shows up as an enforcer and you can hear Marillac/Turasi stories
Seriously though a lot of people there from BEB and the Jungle aside from the phony Robbins. Was a real fun night
What did Robbins lie about? I might be the most ignorant bastard here
Didn't you talk to him that night ? He talked to a lot of us there. I think Maven arranged for him to come. He was totally acting like he was a disgruntled fan and summarizing ( he thought Norm stunk etc ) he was asking us all for our opinions and stories and he was allegedly writing some big piece that was going to call Norm out and shed light on the horrible job he was doing.
What happens next as we eagerly await this article was the biggest puff and fluff piece I have ever seen completely opposite opinion wise from what he was saying himself.
From that day on a new he wasn't a real writer. He might break sccops but he's a phony
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C'mon guys you know the spot to find the most accurate news first
Baldi and Lenn Robbins
Lenn Robbins has been pretty good. Besides Moe, in late January he had a tweet that Sampson was leaning heavily towards St. Johns.
Lenn even showed up to the bigeastboards party a few years back. Good job outta him
And promptly lied to everyone's face.
LOL about what?
Come on Baldi. You were there. He was trashing Norm. Remember when he was supposed to be writing the piece that was going to be very critical of Norm and then wrote that puff piece
That's pretty funny actually!
Yeah in hindsight it is but at the time we were f'ing pissed.
Lenn was a totally phony and flat out liar. That's why his opinion in certain articles is worth nothing. He might break news sometimes but he's shown flat out what he writes isn't necessarily his opinion which to me makes him worth cr@p.
On a separate note that same party was a lot of fun. PMG arranged it. At the time redmen was closed and people were killing the site so I thought I was going to be walking into a hornets nest other than people who I was already friends with like PMG and some others.
Turned out to be a blast. Get everyone in a room and provide alcohol and the hatefest ends. lol.. And who's gonna fight when KOB shows up as an enforcer and you can hear Marillac/Turasi stories
Seriously though a lot of people there from BEB and the Jungle aside from the phony Robbins. Was a real fun night
What did Robbins lie about? I might be the most ignorant bastard here
Didn't you talk to him that night ? He talked to a lot of us there. I think Maven arranged for him to come. He was totally acting like he was a disgruntled fan and summarizing ( he thought Norm stunk etc ) he was asking us all for our opinions and stories and he was allegedly writing some big piece that was going to call Norm out and shed light on the horrible job he was doing.
What happens next as we eagerly await this article was the biggest puff and fluff piece I have ever seen completely opposite opinion wise from what he was saying himself.
From that day on a new he wasn't a real writer. He might break sccops but he's a phony
Ya I talked to him. He and Maven were hiding in the corner of the bar,both not big fans of Baldi if I remember correctly. I think I asked him if he was wearing a toupee,coversation ended there.
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why no seeming interest from pitino?
I don't know but I missed your congratulations post for SJU re-securing the commitment of JaKarr Sampson thus denying you the inevitable "Ed Cooley is the man" post under JaKarr's thread.
Ha! I think he is Ed Cooley.
He also disappears whenever anyone calls him out on his bullshit.
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“@AdamZagoria: Monroe College's Orlando Sanchez and Marco Bourgault will visit #stjbb in April, sources tell @SNYtv”
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“@AdamZagoria: Monroe College's Orlando Sanchez and Marco Bourgault will visit #stjbb in April, sources tell @SNYtv”
Post verbal?
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“@AdamZagoria: Monroe College's Orlando Sanchez and Marco Bourgault will visit #stjbb in April, sources tell @SNYtv”
Doesn't like sound like a commitment is coming this week though hopefully Zags is missing that part of the story.
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“@AdamZagoria: Monroe College's Orlando Sanchez and Marco Bourgault will visit #stjbb in April, sources tell @SNYtv”
Doesn't like sound like a commitment is coming this week though hopefully Zags is missing that part of the story.
Does he have a story up today? Didn't see it.
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No story - just a tweet
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“@AdamZagoria: Monroe College's Orlando Sanchez and Marco Bourgault will visit #stjbb in April, sources tell @SNYtv”
Post verbal?
FWIW heard from historically reliable person commitment would be this week. We'll see.
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No story - just a tweet
Tough to explain it all in 140 characters :)
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“@AdamZagoria: Monroe College's Orlando Sanchez and Marco Bourgault will visit #stjbb in April, sources tell @SNYtv”
Post verbal?
FWIW heard from historically reliable person commitment would be this week. We'll see.
Just curious but have you heard that Sanchez would be committing this week or that both Sanchez and Bourgault would be committing?
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“@AdamZagoria: Monroe College's Orlando Sanchez and Marco Bourgault will visit #stjbb in April, sources tell @SNYtv”
Post verbal?
FWIW heard from historically reliable person commitment would be this week. We'll see.
Just curious but have you heard that Sanchez would be committing this week or that both Sanchez and Bourgault would be committing?
Both coming was info. April is upon us, so let's sit tight and probably be quite happy quite soon.
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Update on Sanchez and Bourgalt from Zags:
http://www.zagsblog.com/2012/03/27/st-johns-targeting-sanchez-and-bourgault/ (http://www.zagsblog.com/2012/03/27/st-johns-targeting-sanchez-and-bourgault/)
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Update on Sanchez and Bourgalt from Zags:
http://www.zagsblog.com/2012/03/27/st-johns-targeting-sanchez-and-bourgault/ (http://www.zagsblog.com/2012/03/27/st-johns-targeting-sanchez-and-bourgault/)
Doesn't make it sound as close as we thought.....
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Update on Sanchez and Bourgalt from Zags:
http://www.zagsblog.com/2012/03/27/st-johns-targeting-sanchez-and-bourgault/ (http://www.zagsblog.com/2012/03/27/st-johns-targeting-sanchez-and-bourgault/)
Doesn't make it sound as close as we thought.....
Nope.
Makes sense for these two to see what offers are out there for them and take their time; Texas is mentioned as a team with interest (but no offer yet).
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These guys could be stars in New York. What an incredible opportunity that would be on many levels. Playing for Lavin means you'll get ink. Everything he does is on the news. Right now, even at a top ranked Juco their basketball games are the equivalent to going to a speak easy. No pub at all.
Come on guys. Media capital of the nation. Win here and you're a star everywhere.
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So... I guess we're not getting any big announcements this week?
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So... I guess we're not getting any big announcements this week?
You never know. Thats what makes this stuff so nervewracking and keeps us coming back.
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Orlando is such a great fit for our offence. We need him and a big for this class to be complete.
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So... I guess we're not getting any big announcements this week?
You never know. Thats what makes this stuff so nervewracking and keeps us coming back.
Totally agree, but with some patience and faith in Lavin, his stellar class will come to fruition IMO.
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So... I guess we're not getting any big announcements this week?
You never know. Thats what makes this stuff so nervewracking and keeps us coming back.
I would not be surprised without any info if they didn't do all their visits and verbaled earlier. Kids/coaches say these things all the time.
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is there a chance we land both Sanchez and Obekpa?
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is there a chance we land both Sanchez and Obekpa?
Absolutely.
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is there a chance we land both Sanchez and Obekpa?
Absolutely.
"Stellar"
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Moose-You said Konchalski was in the gym, did you or anyone talk to him?
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Moose-You said Konchalski was in the gym, did you or anyone talk to him?
I didn't. But he was shaking hands with everyone. He's a staple there.
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Moose-You said Konchalski was in the gym, did you or anyone talk to him?
I didn't. But he was shaking hands with everyone. He's a staple there.
Told he loves Balamou.
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Tom from Salem posted this article on Redmen.com, notes Orlando's coach's opinion that Providence has edge over SJU. We'll see.
http://pawtuckettimes.com/content/mcgair-hs-coach-expresses-optimism-regarding-pc-prospect-ricky-ledo-friars-good-shape-pursui (http://pawtuckettimes.com/content/mcgair-hs-coach-expresses-optimism-regarding-pc-prospect-ricky-ledo-friars-good-shape-pursui)
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What in the wide wide world of sports is the Pawtucket Times?
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What in the wide wide world of sports is the Pawtucket Times?
Small state, small newspaper. Coach's opinion not gospel, but worth noting.
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They were supposedly in go shape with JaKarr too.
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Latest from good old "Stolen Scoop Zags"
“@AdamZagoria: Monroe's Sanchez, Bourgault Going on Visits http://t.co/wqivAuqI (http://t.co/wqivAuqI) #stjbb”
We are in real good shape w Sanchez IMO
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ALWAYS a good sign when you get the last visit!!
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ALWAYS a good sign when you get the last visit!!
Except if your Obekpa :)
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Sanchez & Chandler are at the top of my wish list.
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FWIW, my "buddy" Scoop Rothstein sas...
“@JonRothstein: Hearing St. John's is going to be "tough to beat" for Monroe JUCO PF Orlando Sanchez. Red Storm can add as many as 7 players this spring.”
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FWIW, my "buddy" Scoop Rothstein sas...
“@JonRothstein: Hearing St. John's is going to be "tough to beat" for Monroe JUCO PF Orlando Sanchez. Red Storm can add as many as 7 players this spring.”
Don't think there are even 7 players left. :) :) :)
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FWIW, my "buddy" Scoop Rothstein sas...
“@JonRothstein: Hearing St. John's is going to be "tough to beat" for Monroe JUCO PF Orlando Sanchez. Red Storm can add as many as 7 players this spring.”
Don't think there are even 7 players left. :) :) :)
We won't be adding more than 4 more. Rothstein wasn't taking into account Sampson and Felix
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FWIW, my "buddy" Scoop Rothstein sas...
“@JonRothstein: Hearing St. John's is going to be "tough to beat" for Monroe JUCO PF Orlando Sanchez. Red Storm can add as many as 7 players this spring.”
Don't think there are even 7 players left. :) :) :)
We won't be adding more than 4 more. Rothstein wasn't taking into account Sampson and Felix
Thanks but was being facetious hence the 3 smiley faces. only Moose gets my sense of humor. :)
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With Sanchez concluding his Providence visit today, things will be clearer by Monday. Still confident about him.
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There were some reports on Providence board about Sanchez and potential transcript issues. They may have been mentioned here but I'm not sure. Anybody hear about this issue? Just curious? Really love to land this kid.
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There were some reports on Providence board about Sanchez and potential transcript issues. They may have been mentioned here but I'm not sure. Anybody hear about this issue? Just curious? Really love to land this kid.
Theo was the one who mentioned before that there were questions, but recently said he heard that it was no longer an issue. Hopefully providence fans are just out of the know and behind on the news
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There were some reports on Providence board about Sanchez and potential transcript issues. They may have been mentioned here but I'm not sure. Anybody hear about this issue? Just curious? Really love to land this kid.
Theo was the one who mentioned before that there were questions, but recently said he heard that it was no longer an issue. Hopefully providence fans are just out of the know and behind on the news
What Theo originally mentioned was not transcript related. I think it had to do with wherever he played prior to Monroe he mentioned. But yes like you said he then said no issues.
MCN- got a link to Prov board?
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providence.scout.com
http://friarblog.com/ (http://friarblog.com/)
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There were some reports on Providence board about Sanchez and potential transcript issues. They may have been mentioned here but I'm not sure. Anybody hear about this issue? Just curious? Really love to land this kid.
Theo was the one who mentioned before that there were questions, but recently said he heard that it was no longer an issue. Hopefully providence fans are just out of the know and behind on the news
What Theo originally mentioned was not transcript related. I think it had to do with wherever he played prior to Monroe he mentioned. But yes like you said he then said no issues.
MCN- got a link to Prov board?
Thanks Moose. Figured I'd ask because I don't know if it was clarified.
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Mayor Bloomberg, where are you. Felipe? Ha!
“@friarblog: Nice RT @MattBobola: @friarblog Orlando Sanchez is meeting Mayor Taveras at City Hall right now.”
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Mayor Bloomberg, where are you. Felipe? Ha!
“@friarblog: Nice RT @MattBobola: @friarblog Orlando Sanchez is meeting Mayor Taveras at City Hall right now.”
He'll be indicted soon. Aren't all Providence Mayor's?
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Mayor Bloomberg, where are you. Felipe? Ha!
“@friarblog: Nice RT @MattBobola: @friarblog Orlando Sanchez is meeting Mayor Taveras at City Hall right now.”
He'll be indicted soon. Aren't all Providence Mayor's?
Why would Sanchez want to go to Providence with Sidiki, Henton, and some other bigs returning? Henton is a STUD.
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Mayor Bloomberg, where are you. Felipe? Ha!
“@friarblog: Nice RT @MattBobola: @friarblog Orlando Sanchez is meeting Mayor Taveras at City Hall right now.”
He'll be indicted soon. Aren't all Providence Mayor's?
Why would Sanchez want to go to Providence with Sidiki, Henton, and some other bigs returning? Henton is a STUD.
Because Ed Cooley is a real funny dude
-Jakarr Sampson :)
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indeed coach cooley has a bright future ... very soon.
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indeed coach cooley has a bright future ... very soon.
Nice to see you posting again, Mrs. Cooley.
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indeed coach cooley has a bright future ... very soon.
Is that because he had a light bulb surgically implanted in his fat head? ;D
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Mayor Bloomberg, where are you. Felipe? Ha!
“@friarblog: Nice RT @MattBobola: @friarblog Orlando Sanchez is meeting Mayor Taveras at City Hall right now.”
He'll be indicted soon. Aren't all Providence Mayor's?
Why would Sanchez want to go to Providence with Sidiki, Henton, and some other bigs returning? Henton is a STUD.
Because Ed Cooley is a real funny dude
-Jakarr Sampson :)
My favorite: "coach Cooley is a clown". JacKarr Sampson
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Mayor Bloomberg, where are you. Felipe? Ha!
“@friarblog: Nice RT @MattBobola: @friarblog Orlando Sanchez is meeting Mayor Taveras at City Hall right now.”
He'll be indicted soon. Aren't all Providence Mayor's?
Why would Sanchez want to go to Providence with Sidiki, Henton, and some other bigs returning? Henton is a STUD.
Because Ed Cooley is a real funny dude
-Jakarr Sampson :)
My favorite: "coach Cooley is a clown". JacKarr Sampson
My bad thats what I meant. Good memory!
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Do we have Orlando and Marco visiting this week end? Fingers crossed!
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Did he commit yet? What's the holdup? I sure wish we'd get some recruits...
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Ditto
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Did he commit yet? What's the holdup? I sure wish we'd get some recruits...
LJSA grow up. Posting it once wasn't funny. Posting it 5 times just makes a bunch of work for me
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We all want to know what the class is going to look like. The time is coming. We just have to be patient. it sucks watching other schools load up and fill their rosters. But, sometimes it works out like that.
Recruiting is a marathon, not a sprint.
Trust the process. Lavin has made a few laps around the track. We are in good hands. Let's wait and see how this shakes out, my two cents.
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We all want to know what the class is going to look like. The time is coming. We just have to be patient. it sucks watching other schools load up and fill their rosters. But, sometimes it works out like that.
Recruiting is a marathon, not a sprint.
Trust the process. Lavin has made a few laps around the track. We are in good hands. Let's wait and see how this shakes out, my two cents.
We waited for the roster to be filled last year and it never was. It's not as if we haven't waited at all. This year Branch was recruited by Harrison and Sampson was a prior recruit retrieved. In my book that makes Balamou this year's class so far and he plays a position where we're stacked. What process?
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We all want to know what the class is going to look like. The time is coming. We just have to be patient. it sucks watching other schools load up and fill their rosters. But, sometimes it works out like that.
Recruiting is a marathon, not a sprint.
Trust the process. Lavin has made a few laps around the track. We are in good hands. Let's wait and see how this shakes out, my two cents.
We waited for the roster to be filled last year and it never was. It's not as if we haven't waited at all. This year Branch was recruited by Harrison and Sampson was a prior recruit retrieved. In my book that makes Balamou this year's class so far and he plays a position where we're stacked. What process?
Would you at least give Lavin some credit for "retrieving" Sampson, not an easy task?
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What did they have for breakfast? Where is the insider info?
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What did they have for breakfast? Where is the insider info?
Lavin never showed, preferred staying in Paris.
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What did they have for breakfast? Where is the insider info?
Lavin never showed, preferred staying in Paris.
That is a joke right?
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What did they have for breakfast? Where is the insider info?
Lavin never showed, preferred staying in Paris.
That is a joke right?
Just responding to sarcasm in kind.
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We all want to know what the class is going to look like. The time is coming. We just have to be patient. it sucks watching other schools load up and fill their rosters. But, sometimes it works out like that.
Recruiting is a marathon, not a sprint.
Trust the process. Lavin has made a few laps around the track. We are in good hands. Let's wait and see how this shakes out, my two cents.
We waited for the roster to be filled last year and it never was. It's not as if we haven't waited at all. This year Branch was recruited by Harrison and Sampson was a prior recruit retrieved. In my book that makes Balamou this year's class so far and he plays a position where we're stacked. What process?
1. The recruiting process: It is fluid, changes all the time, highs and lows...
2. Explain how Harrison deserves the credit for recruiting Branch. Them being boys may have helped, but to omit the staff from the equation is ridiculous. The staff certainly played a role in his recruitment.
3. While JS was signed last year, his recruitment opened back up. He was re-recruited and verballed to us. That is a victory on the recruiting scene.
4. It is premature for us to conclude that this class is a bust, underwhelming, etc. We still have time left.
I just think taking a wait and see approach wont do us (the fans) any harm. Feel free to disagree to my approach -you're entitled to. I just wanted to address my post.
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We all want to know what the class is going to look like. The time is coming. We just have to be patient. it sucks watching other schools load up and fill their rosters. But, sometimes it works out like that.
Recruiting is a marathon, not a sprint.
Trust the process. Lavin has made a few laps around the track. We are in good hands. Let's wait and see how this shakes out, my two cents.
We waited for the roster to be filled last year and it never was. It's not as if we haven't waited at all. This year Branch was recruited by Harrison and Sampson was a prior recruit retrieved. In my book that makes Balamou this year's class so far and he plays a position where we're stacked. What process?
Bobre, you know that is hogwash right.
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We all want to know what the class is going to look like. The time is coming. We just have to be patient. it sucks watching other schools load up and fill their rosters. But, sometimes it works out like that.
Recruiting is a marathon, not a sprint.
Trust the process. Lavin has made a few laps around the track. We are in good hands. Let's wait and see how this shakes out, my two cents.
We waited for the roster to be filled last year and it never was. It's not as if we haven't waited at all. This year Branch was recruited by Harrison and Sampson was a prior recruit retrieved. In my book that makes Balamou this year's class so far and he plays a position where we're stacked. What process?
Would you at least give Lavin some credit for "retrieving" Sampson, not an easy task?
Especially in light of the low percentage of players that wind up re-committing. I can only thank Costanza up at Brewster for give us the "opposite" good luck! ;D
George Does the Opposite (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfkKkvWEPMo#noexternalembed) solid 2 minutes of comedy - great stuff...
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Did he commit yet? What's the holdup? I sure wish we'd get some recruits...
LJSA grow up. Posting it once wasn't funny. Posting it 5 times just makes a bunch of work for me
Then you could have left it and saved yourself the work, right?
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We all want to know what the class is going to look like. The time is coming. We just have to be patient. it sucks watching other schools load up and fill their rosters. But, sometimes it works out like that.
Recruiting is a marathon, not a sprint.
Trust the process. Lavin has made a few laps around the track. We are in good hands. Let's wait and see how this shakes out, my two cents.
We waited for the roster to be filled last year and it never was. It's not as if we haven't waited at all. This year Branch was recruited by Harrison and Sampson was a prior recruit retrieved. In my book that makes Balamou this year's class so far and he plays a position where we're stacked. What process?
Bobre, you know that is hogwash right.
I would like Bobre to show us an example of a class where the kids aren't recruiting each other these days. Right after he shows us that mystery point guard that he's pissed we never got, I'm sure.
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Did he commit yet? What's the holdup? I sure wish we'd get some recruits...
LJSA grow up. Posting it once wasn't funny. Posting it 5 times just makes a bunch of work for me
Then you could have left it and saved yourself the work, right?
Well as a mod it is kind of my responsibility. But yes I could have left it for another mod to handle. I would just appreciate if in the future you could refrain from posting the same thing 5 times
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Did he commit yet? What's the holdup? I sure wish we'd get some recruits...
LJSA grow up. Posting it once wasn't funny. Posting it 5 times just makes a bunch of work for me
Then you could have left it and saved yourself the work, right?
Well as a mod it is kind of my responsibility. But yes I could have left it for another mod to handle. I would just appreciate if in the future you could refrain from posting the same thing 5 times
It was done to mock people like Bobre who write the same thing over and over again. Sorry, I'll be more subtle next time.
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The wait is almost over....
Alex Kline @TheRecruitScoop Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
RT @JucoRecruiting: JUCO PF Orlando Sanchez is visiting St. John's this weekend. He will decide between SJU, Auburn & Providence this week.
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Everytime I see a new post, I keep thinking it's going to be news on Sanchez. I keep getting disappointed.
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As noted in Lavin tweet post section in JJ area, He still notes closing on stellar class. Have to think so!
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The wait is almost over....
Alex Kline @TheRecruitScoop Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
RT @JucoRecruiting: JUCO PF Orlando Sanchez is visiting St. John's this weekend. He will decide between SJU, Auburn & Providence this week.
Brad Winton's story:
http://www.jucorecruiting.com/?p=1262 (http://www.jucorecruiting.com/?p=1262)
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Gotta think it's us with visit this weekend and Lavin's tweets this weekend as well. I really like Sanchez a lot. His Athleticism and skills fit us perfectly.
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Gotta think it's us with visit this weekend and Lavin's tweets this weekend as well. I really like Sanchez a lot. His Athleticism and skills fit us perfectly.
Sticky the thread, Orlando just committed!!!
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Welcome!
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Nice.
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Here they come! Welcome aboard.
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Big time land in Sanchez, finally some size
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This was an important one. He looks like a player!
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Awesome. Now some posters can step back from the ledge. Get me Chandler and I will just be smitten
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Welcome Orlando!!!
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Welcome Orlando! Look forward to seeing you shore-up our interior defense and crash the boards. If you can make it here you can make it anywhere...
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We all want to know what the class is going to look like. The time is coming. We just have to be patient. it sucks watching other schools load up and fill their rosters. But, sometimes it works out like that.
Recruiting is a marathon, not a sprint.
Trust the process. Lavin has made a few laps around the track. We are in good hands. Let's wait and see how this shakes out, my two cents.
We waited for the roster to be filled last year and it never was. It's not as if we haven't waited at all. This year Branch was recruited by Harrison and Sampson was a prior recruit retrieved. In my book that makes Balamou this year's class so far and he plays a position where we're stacked. What process?
So who are you going to give credit to for Sanchez and Marco ? Felipe and one of the teachers at our Paris Campus ?
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Wow, great job by the staff!
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lavin working his magic!
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Welcome aboard Orlando! Hammer to the rock.
And, don't look now fellas but guess what D1 team can practice 5 on 5 with scholarship players!
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Never had a doubt on this duo, but agree that Chandler would be the wow factor.
Kudos to Moose for his call on these great additions!
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I really like the strategy by the staff. Bring in very good juco kids to win right away and help bring young kids along. With the large classes the staff has had to fill, it's good to have these upper clansmen on roster who can play right away and be a major factor. IMO, as we get better and smaller classes to recruit, we will see more high school kids that the staff is honing on to make our recruiting classes in the future. Very excited about this team that's in the making. Give me Chandler or CO and we will be a 20 win team next year.
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How many more ships do we use before its all said and done?
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How many more ships do we use before its all said and done?
you can always find the breakdown of scholarships on this thread on the main board
http://johnnyjungle.com/forum/index.php?topic=928.0 (http://johnnyjungle.com/forum/index.php?topic=928.0)
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Great to hear. One more big man and I think we are in real good shape.
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I really like the strategy by the staff. Bring in very good juco kids to win right away and help bring young kids along. With the large classes the staff has had to fill, it's good to have these upper clansmen on roster who can play right away and be a major factor. IMO, as we get better and smaller classes to recruit, we will see more high school kids that the staff is honing on to make our recruiting classes in the future. Very excited about this team that's in the making. Give me Chandler or CO and we will be a 20 win team next year.
+1
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How many more ships do we use before its all said and done?
you can always find the breakdown of scholarships on this thread on the main board
http://johnnyjungle.com/forum/index.php?topic=928.0 (http://johnnyjungle.com/forum/index.php?topic=928.0)
Zags says Marco has 3 years eligibility. Fact or Fiction?
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Great to hear. One more big man and I think we are in real good shape.
What do you mean one more? We don't have one center.
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How many more ships do we use before its all said and done?
you can always find the breakdown of scholarships on this thread on the main board
http://johnnyjungle.com/forum/index.php?topic=928.0 (http://johnnyjungle.com/forum/index.php?topic=928.0)
Thanx
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If we get a legit center like Chandler, I think that him and Gift can handle the center position. I agree that you would ideally want two 6'10 plus guys, but lots of teams play with 6'7/6'8 bangers for stretches.
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How many more ships do we use before its all said and done?
you can always find the breakdown of scholarships on this thread on the main board
http://johnnyjungle.com/forum/index.php?topic=928.0 (http://johnnyjungle.com/forum/index.php?topic=928.0)
Zags says Marco has 3 years eligibility. Fact or Fiction?
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I remember seeing that somewhere But was waiting for confirmation
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We all want to know what the class is going to look like. The time is coming. We just have to be patient. it sucks watching other schools load up and fill their rosters. But, sometimes it works out like that.
Recruiting is a marathon, not a sprint.
Trust the process. Lavin has made a few laps around the track. We are in good hands. Let's wait and see how this shakes out, my two cents.
We waited for the roster to be filled last year and it never was. It's not as if we haven't waited at all. This year Branch was recruited by Harrison and Sampson was a prior recruit retrieved. In my book that makes Balamou this year's class so far and he plays a position where we're stacked. What process?
So who are you going to give credit to for Sanchez and Marco ? Felipe and one of the teachers at our Paris Campus ?
Orlando and Marco are great fits for the team.
BTW - In response to your question: No these guys. If you're a baller walking the streets of Monroe and you do not commit to SJ's, you get this treatment. FH has his connections ya know ;D
(http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2011/04/21/nyregion/JP-POOR3/JP-POOR3-articleInline.jpg)
ed note- I go on the assumption many of you know about Monroe. No, not Earl Monroe....
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Welcome Orlando. Can't wait to see you leave your imprint on the Garden.
Also like the fact that he is a JC. He will add maturity to the team having played in the JC championship tourney the last 2 years and will help our scholarship distribution.
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Never had a doubt on this duo,
Truer words never spoke.
This was in the bag for over a month.
And y'all can thank the most maligned member of the staff for the early and constant attention.
Peace out!
-Choz4Life
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Never had a doubt on this duo,
Truer words never spoke.
This was in the bag for over a month.
And y'all can thank the most maligned member of the staff for the early and constant attention.
Peace out!
-Choz4Life
+100 Choz!!
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Those that have seen him play in person, what do you think? How will his game translate to the Big East?
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welcome orlando
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Never had a doubt on this duo,
Truer words never spoke.
This was in the bag for over a month.
And y'all can thank the most maligned member of the staff for the early and constant attention.
Peace out!
-Choz4Life
+100 Choz!!
Choz, should have noted how much I appreciate Tony Chiles, tireless and well respected coach and recruiter. He did receive all the bad raps about Rise Academy, but that was not his sole decision. Talk to the good guys in the HS and AAU community, who can vouch for his integrity, knowledge and decency. Blessed to have him!!!
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welcome to the dynamic duo. both fill strong needs. and thanks to mr. lavin and staff. great work guys.
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Never had a doubt on this duo,
Truer words never spoke.
This was in the bag for over a month.
And y'all can thank the most maligned member of the staff for the early and constant attention.
Peace out!
-Choz4Life
+100 Choz!!
Choz, should have noted how much I appreciate Tony Chiles, tireless and well respected coach and recruiter. He did receive all the bad raps about Rise Academy, but that was not his sole decision. Talk to the good guys in the HS and AAU community, who can vouch for his integrity, knowledge and decency. Blessed to have him!!!
Choz and Paultz are absolutely right. Tony C took a beating on these boards post Rise, and then again when Nuri departed.
Give credit where credit is due.
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Welcome aboard!!!
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Btw, I don't know if anyone else has seen this.. but once again the Friars of suburban Boston are claiming we paid to get a player, this time it's Sanchez.
Because that's what we do when we're trying to sign a nice JUCO player, who doesn't project to start for either of his two years here ... throw thousands of dollars at him. :idiot2:
http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=425&f=1323&t=8928275&p=2 (http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=425&f=1323&t=8928275&p=2)
Second time in 2 months they've said that about us. And another clown on their message board has a vitamin water-bottle as his icon.
I'm beginning to think they don't want to be friends..
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Btw, I don't know if anyone else has seen this.. but once again the Friars of suburban Boston are claiming we paid to get Sanchez.
Because that's what we do when we're trying to sign a nice JUCO player, who doesn't project to start for either of his two years here ... throw thousands of dollars at him. :idiot2:
http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=425&f=1323&t=8928275&p=2 (http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=425&f=1323&t=8928275&p=2)
Second time in 2 months they've said that about us. And another clown on their message board has a vitamin water-bottle as his icon.
I'm beginning to think they don't want to be friends..
Soar losers, like its that hard to believe that a good player would play for a team located in NYC playing home games at MSG with an established coaching staff who has had success. Not to mention we ran their team out of the gym last year with 6 guys, all new comers. Pathetic
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Btw, I don't know if anyone else has seen this.. but once again the Friars of suburban Boston are claiming we paid to get a player, this time it's Sanchez.
Because that's what we do when we're trying to sign a nice JUCO player, who doesn't project to start for either of his two years here ... throw thousands of dollars at him. :idiot2:
http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=425&f=1323&t=8928275&p=2 (http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=425&f=1323&t=8928275&p=2)
Second time in 2 months they've said that about us. And another clown on their message board has a vitamin water-bottle as his icon.
I'm beginning to think they don't want to be friends..
Wow...that's some serious sour grapes over there.
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The worst part of the Providence fans is those in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. If you think another school cheated fine. But you landed two top level prospects in Ledo and Dunn. After they have gone thru 10 yrs of crap just like we have. So don't turn your head to what you have. Suck it up and move on.
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Cut them some slack. We just swiped 2 of their biggest targets.
If they went to PC, there are members here that would make similar accusations.
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Btw, I don't know if anyone else has seen this.. but once again the Friars of suburban Boston are claiming we paid to get Sanchez.
Because that's what we do when we're trying to sign a nice JUCO player, who doesn't project to start for either of his two years here ... throw thousands of dollars at him. :idiot2:
http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=425&f=1323&t=8928275&p=2 (http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=425&f=1323&t=8928275&p=2)
Second time in 2 months they've said that about us. And another clown on their message board has a vitamin water-bottle as his icon.
I'm beginning to think they don't want to be friends..
Soar losers, like its that hard to believe that a good player would play for a team located in NYC playing home games at MSG with an established coaching staff who has had success. Not to mention we ran their team out of the gym last year with 6 guys, all new comers. Pathetic
This one made me laugh:
"yeah all of a sudden MSG and NY has all these top recruits in love with the program for the first time in what 10 YEARS ???
weren't all those perks still in play before Lavin got there ? think about it"
Come on, a fan of PC can't be that ignorant to not see the reason for our lack of good recruiting the last 10 years.
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The worst part of the Providence fans is those in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. If you think another school cheated fine. But you landed two top level prospects in Ledo and Dunn. After they have gone thru 10 yrs of crap just like we have. So don't turn your head to what you have. Suck it up and move on.
Down goes Frazier! oops, meant Shurina Cheese!
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Btw, I don't know if anyone else has seen this.. but once again the Friars of suburban Boston are claiming we paid to get a player, this time it's Sanchez.
Because that's what we do when we're trying to sign a nice JUCO player, who doesn't project to start for either of his two years here ... throw thousands of dollars at him. :idiot2:
http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=425&f=1323&t=8928275&p=2 (http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=425&f=1323&t=8928275&p=2)
Second time in 2 months they've said that about us. And another clown on their message board has a vitamin water-bottle as his icon.
I'm beginning to think they don't want to be friends..
Cause our fan base never says that about other schools who get one of our recruits ::)
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Cut them some slack. We just swiped 2 of their biggest targets.
If they went to PC, there are members here that would make similar accusations.
+1
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Looks like Shurina Cheese has been posting under assumed alias' on the Providence scout.com board.
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Btw, I don't know if anyone else has seen this.. but once again the Friars of suburban Boston are claiming we paid to get a player, this time it's Sanchez.
Because that's what we do when we're trying to sign a nice JUCO player, who doesn't project to start for either of his two years here ... throw thousands of dollars at him. :idiot2:
http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=425&f=1323&t=8928275&p=2 (http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=425&f=1323&t=8928275&p=2)
Second time in 2 months they've said that about us. And another clown on their message board has a vitamin water-bottle as his icon.
I'm beginning to think they don't want to be friends..
Cause our fan base never says that about other schools who get one of our recruits ::)
To be fair though, most of the teams I see accused on this board of wrongdoing have a track record of NCAA rule breaking, Baylor for example.
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Btw, I don't know if anyone else has seen this.. but once again the Friars of suburban Boston are claiming we paid to get a player, this time it's Sanchez.
Because that's what we do when we're trying to sign a nice JUCO player, who doesn't project to start for either of his two years here ... throw thousands of dollars at him. :idiot2:
http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=425&f=1323&t=8928275&p=2 (http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=425&f=1323&t=8928275&p=2)
Second time in 2 months they've said that about us. And another clown on their message board has a vitamin water-bottle as his icon.
I'm beginning to think they don't want to be friends..
Cause our fan base never says that about other schools who get one of our recruits ::)
To be fair though, most of the teams I see accused on this board of wrongdoing have a track record of NCAA rule breaking, Baylor for example.
I think that's pretty accurate. We might make pretty weak arguments that Gathers was paid, when we don't really know. But it's usually Baylor or Calipari that I hear getting ripped on here. But let's be honest, there's reasons to suspect those programs are dealing under the table.
Would our board have claimed $$ if Kyle Anderson went to Seton Hall? Doubtful. Do any of us question Ledo or Dunn going to PC? Nope.
I think it's a little different when it's a small catholic school that's been in the same conference as you for 30 years. A lot different than say Calipari, Drew, UNLV, etc.
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Btw, I don't know if anyone else has seen this.. but once again the Friars of suburban Boston are claiming we paid to get a player, this time it's Sanchez.
Because that's what we do when we're trying to sign a nice JUCO player, who doesn't project to start for either of his two years here ... throw thousands of dollars at him. :idiot2:
http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=425&f=1323&t=8928275&p=2 (http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=425&f=1323&t=8928275&p=2)
Second time in 2 months they've said that about us. And another clown on their message board has a vitamin water-bottle as his icon.
I'm beginning to think they don't want to be friends..
Cause our fan base never says that about other schools who get one of our recruits ::)
To be fair though, most of the teams I see accused on this board of wrongdoing have a track record of NCAA rule breaking, Baylor for example.
It's been going on longer than Baylor
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We are not in competition with Providence for anything. Let them say what they want. They are an A10 team in the BE.
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Btw, I don't know if anyone else has seen this.. but once again the Friars of suburban Boston are claiming we paid to get a player, this time it's Sanchez.
Because that's what we do when we're trying to sign a nice JUCO player, who doesn't project to start for either of his two years here ... throw thousands of dollars at him. :idiot2:
http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=425&f=1323&t=8928275&p=2 (http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=425&f=1323&t=8928275&p=2)
Second time in 2 months they've said that about us. And another clown on their message board has a vitamin water-bottle as his icon.
I'm beginning to think they don't want to be friends..
Cause our fan base never says that about other schools who get one of our recruits ::)
To be fair though, most of the teams I see accused on this board of wrongdoing have a track record of NCAA rule breaking, Baylor for example.
It's been going on longer than Baylor
C'mon. IF you truly love your school, it's like your wife. You can't picture anyone NOT thinking they're the most beautiful, most wonderful thing in the world. So if someone picks somewhere else, it HAS to be some sort of illegal inducement. HAS to be. If you truly love your school, no other reason can possibly make sense :)
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I don't give a shit what they think.
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Btw, I don't know if anyone else has seen this.. but once again the Friars of suburban Boston are claiming we paid to get a player, this time it's Sanchez.
Because that's what we do when we're trying to sign a nice JUCO player, who doesn't project to start for either of his two years here ... throw thousands of dollars at him. :idiot2:
http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=425&f=1323&t=8928275&p=2 (http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=425&f=1323&t=8928275&p=2)
Second time in 2 months they've said that about us. And another clown on their message board has a vitamin water-bottle as his icon.
I'm beginning to think they don't want to be friends..
Cause our fan base never says that about other schools who get one of our recruits ::)
To be fair though, most of the teams I see accused on this board of wrongdoing have a track record of NCAA rule breaking, Baylor for example.
It's been going on longer than Baylor
C'mon. IF you truly love your school, it's like your wife. You can't picture anyone NOT thinking they're the most beautiful, most wonderful thing in the world. So if someone picks somewhere else, it HAS to be some sort of illegal inducement. HAS to be. If you truly love your school, no other reason can possibly make sense :)
Now that's a good one!!! So true!
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One of my buddies went to PC and I visited him there, and attended a game at the Dunkin Donut Center vs STJ. I was completely unimpressed. The campus is in the middle of a terrible neighborhood, and wasn't that great looking either. The Dunkin Donut Center is on par with Nassau Coliseum (and that's being generous), so I don't really get why PC fans are so shocked players would rather play in the Garden in NYC than their dumpy school.
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Not to defend PC fans sniping at us at all but their attitude may be somewhat fueled by the misguided feeling that they were going to sign Sanchez. Glad we got him really think he is a talent. shurinacheese crying in his cornflakes tomorrow morning. :) Actually the Cheese monster has no affinity for PC just likes to agitate and get under peoples skin and he has some easy marks and he gets a rise out of any reactions he elicits. But what the heck I may as well play a long and pile on-Cooley "the clown" gets punked by Lavin again. ;D
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Is Sanchez as good of a prospect as brownlee was?
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Is Sanchez as good of a prospect as brownlee was?
Very good comparison
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Other than the blue chip guys that Lavin will land, most of our guys will be asked to contribute to the formula of success to get us deep NCAA runs. Once the ship has been righted with everything that transpired since last September we really could have an amazing roster for 12 and 13 then beyond.
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We are not in competition with Providence for anything. Let them say what they want. They are an A10 team in the BE.
True.
Their fans are deleusional. STJ is a tradition rich high major, Prov is a mid-major.
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We saw how nicely Brownlee fit with our staff. If Brownlee senior year is Sanchez's ceiling, I'd be pretty damn happy.
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Can Orlando bring the ball up the way Brownlee did? What was so impressive about Brownlee is that you could put him at all 5 positions. Obviously He's only going to bring up 2-3 times tops, but it helps. He played well inside, and passed very well. A terrific all around player. If Sanchez is on par with Brownlee then he is a terrific addition.
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Can Orlando bring the ball up the way Brownlee did? What was so impressive about Brownlee is that you could put him at all 5 positions. Obviously He's only going to bring up 2-3 times tops, but it helps. He played well inside, and passed very well. A terrific all around player. If Sanchez is on par with Brownlee then he is a terrific addition.
Brownlee similarly only averaged 10 or 11 ppg his last year of JUCO
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Welcome to the team Orlando. Great pickup. This fills a big need
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We are not in competition with Providence for anything. Let them say what they want. They are an A10 team in the BE.
Its comments like this that piss me off.
Poison do you realize how arrogant that sounds. We are in competition with Providence all the time, even if you don't want to believe it.
They have a Top 10 recruitng class for next season and Ed Cooley is a very good coach and a very good recruiter. To dismiss them as an A10 team is the Big East is ridiculous.
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We are not in competition with Providence for anything. Let them say what they want. They are an A10 team in the BE.
Its comments like this that piss me off.
Poison do you realize how arrogant that sounds. We are in competition with Providence all the time, even if you don't want to believe it.
They have a Top 10 recruitng class for next season and Ed Cooley is a very good coach and a very good recruiter. To dismiss them as an A10 team is the Big East is ridiculous.
Agreed. Records say we're 32-26 against Providence since the Big East formed. Pretty damn close for them not to be on our level of competition.
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We are not in competition with Providence for anything. Let them say what they want. They are an A10 team in the BE.
Its comments like this that piss me off.
Poison do you realize how arrogant that sounds. We are in competition with Providence all the time, even if you don't want to believe it.
They have a Top 10 recruitng class for next season and Ed Cooley is a very good coach and a very good recruiter. To
dismiss them as an A10 team is the Big East is ridiculous.
Ridiculous. Seriously? How many winning seasons have they had in the last 15 years? They are a bottom feeder. Yea, they have a great coach who won 3 league games. He's great. Stop wasting my time.
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We are not in competition with Providence for anything. Let them say what they want. They are an A10 team in the BE.
Its comments like this that piss me off.
Poison do you realize how arrogant that sounds. We are in competition with Providence all the time, even if you don't want to believe it.
They have a Top 10 recruitng class for next season and Ed Cooley is a very good coach and a very good recruiter. To dismiss them as an A10 team is the Big East is ridiculous.
Agreed. Records say we're 32-26 against Providence since the Big East formed. Pretty damn close for them not to be on our level of competition.
What is our record against Hofstra? Manhattan? Fordham over the last 10 years? Are they just as significant as us because they beat us? Head to head battles are not enough of a measuring stick. When Cooley takes apart the Top 10 on national tv then we can compare his accomplishments and significance to Lavin. They are simply not at our level.
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Who cares! Let's enjoy a nice start to building a solid program!
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Who cares! Let's enjoy a nice start to building a solid program!
Exactly. Let's talk about Orlando. Can he start at the 4 for us?
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Who cares! Let's enjoy a nice start to building a solid program!
Exactly. Let's talk about Orlando. Can he start at the 4 for us?
At 6'9, he'll have to, but he does look a little bit on the thin side for banging in the BE.
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We are not in competition with Providence for anything. Let them say what they want. They are an A10 team in the BE.
Its comments like this that piss me off.
Poison do you realize how arrogant that sounds. We are in competition with Providence all the time, even if you don't want to believe it.
They have a Top 10 recruitng class for next season and Ed Cooley is a very good coach and a very good recruiter. To dismiss them as an A10 team is the Big East is ridiculous.
Agreed. Records say we're 32-26 against Providence since the Big East formed. Pretty damn close for them not to be on our level of competition.
What is our record against Hofstra? Manhattan? Fordham over the last 10 years? Are they just as significant as us because they beat us? Head to head battles are not enough of a measuring stick. When Cooley takes apart the Top 10 on national tv then we can compare his accomplishments and significance to Lavin. They are simply not at our level.
They're not even remotely the same thing!! Providence is a Big East school we've never "owned". So you can't say we're not in competition with them for anything.
Forget the last 10 years when we've struggled then. Look all time.
We're 22-5 against Hofstra ! 62-25 against Manhattan and Fordham 62-21
Providence 56-42. You tell me, which one is competitive?
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Ridiculous. Seriously? How many winning seasons have they had in the last 15 years? They are a bottom feeder. Yea, they have a great coach who won 3 league games. He's great. Stop wasting my time.
Poison you said 15 years.. in that time frame SJU has 4 more wins then Providence, 238 to 234 but according to the NCAA we actually have only 192 wins because of 46 W's we had to vacate from Mike Jarvis.
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Who cares! Let's enjoy a nice start to building a solid program!
Exactly. Let's talk about Orlando. Can he start at the 4 for us?
At 6'9, he'll have to, but he does look a little bit on the thin side for banging in the BE.
He's not thin.
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Who cares! Let's enjoy a nice start to building a solid program!
Exactly. Let's talk about Orlando. Can he start at the 4 for us?
At 6'9, he'll have to, but he does look a little bit on the thin side for banging in the BE.
He's not thin.
I'll defer to your assessment, Moose. I based my observation on that video posted of Orlando doing those ridiculous dunks.
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Who cares! Let's enjoy a nice start to building a solid program!
Exactly. Let's talk about Orlando. Can he start at the 4 for us?
At 6'9, he'll have to, but he does look a little bit on the thin side for banging in the BE.
He's not thin.
I'll defer to your assessment, Moose. I based my observation on that video posted of Orlando doing those ridiculous dunks.
Hes not chiseled and he's not paper thin. He's more defined than Moe.
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Who cares! Let's enjoy a nice start to building a solid program!
Exactly. Let's talk about Orlando. Can he start at the 4 for us?
At 6'9, he'll have to, but he does look a little bit on the thin side for banging in the BE.
He's not thin.
I'll defer to your assessment, Moose. I based my observation on that video posted of Orlando doing those ridiculous dunks.
Hes not chiseled and he's not paper thin. He's more defined than Moe.
Moose, for he edification of the concerned, could you post Sanchez' exact body fat%, wing span and jock size? come on!!
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Who cares! Let's enjoy a nice start to building a solid program!
Exactly. Let's talk about Orlando. Can he start at the 4 for us?
At 6'9, he'll have to, but he does look a little bit on the thin side for banging in the BE.
He's not thin.
I'll defer to your assessment, Moose. I based my observation on that video posted of Orlando doing those ridiculous dunks.
Hes not chiseled and he's not paper thin. He's more defined than Moe.
Moose, for he edification of the concerned, could you post Sanchez' exact body fat%, wing span and jock size? come on!!
I can't. I'm measuring how tall Hooper and Marco are
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Ridiculous. Seriously? How many winning seasons have they had in the last 15 years? They are a bottom feeder. Yea, they have a great coach who won 3 league games. He's great. Stop wasting my time.
Poison you said 15 years.. in that time frame SJU has 4 more wins then Providence, 238 to 234 but according to the NCAA we actually have only 192 wins because of 46 W's we had to vacate from Mike Jarvis.
C'mon PMG. Clearly STJ hasn't owned Providence, but when STJ is a decent or better team Providence is a step below in terms of attractiveness. The same can be said with us next to Syracuse. Providence is probably the toughest school to recruit out of the old school Big East programs.
Small Catholic schools should not be fighting, though! They need us and we need them.
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assume this is nonsense? was posted on Redmen.com
http://auburn.247sports.com/Article/Sanchez-not-committed-71305 (http://auburn.247sports.com/Article/Sanchez-not-committed-71305)
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We never got conformation quotes like we did with Bourgault , maybe they are on to something?
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We never got conformation quotes like we did with Bourgault , maybe they are on to something?
Not from Orlando, no. Zags aritcle said:
“Both committed [Sunday] morning,” sources told SNY.tv.
http://www.zagsblog.com/2012/04/22/bourgault-to-st-johns/ (http://www.zagsblog.com/2012/04/22/bourgault-to-st-johns/)
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Can Orlando bring the ball up the way Brownlee did? What was so impressive about Brownlee is that you could put him at all 5 positions. Obviously He's only going to bring up 2-3 times tops, but it helps. He played well inside, and passed very well. A terrific all around player. If Sanchez is on par with Brownlee then he is a terrific addition.
In the one juco tourney game I saw via the internet he can bring ball coast to coast. Brownlee is a pretty good comparison with Sanchez being a little bigger.
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Apparently his coach at Monroe is stating Sanchez has not committed anywhere, as reported by MjDinkens on Redmen.com
Perhaps just a formality?
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Apparently his coach at Monroe is stating Sanchez has not committed anywhere, as reported by MjDinkens on Redmen.com
Perhaps just a formality?
Signing after committing may be considered a formality but never verbalizing a commitment seems to me to be more than a formality otherwise it is just a formality that Kate Upton is going on a date with me this saturday night.
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This could be epic if we land the little fish and not the big fish in both obekpa and sanchez
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He's a Johnny. Should be official by the end of the week.
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Apparently his coach at Monroe is stating Sanchez has not committed anywhere, as reported by MjDinkens on Redmen.com
Perhaps just a formality?
Signing after committing may be considered a formality but never verbalizing a commitment seems to me to be more than a formality otherwise it is just a formality that Kate Upton is going on a date with me this saturday night.
How do you know he did not verbal? Maybe his coach is out of the loop. BTW don't quit your day job, comedy not your calling.
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“@AdamZagoria: Orlando Sanchez is headed home to the DR Wednesday & will sign his NLI to #stjbb there with his family later this week sources told @SNYtv”
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“@AdamZagoria: Orlando Sanchez is headed home to the DR Wednesday & will sign his NLI to #stjbb there with his family later this week sources told @SNYtv”
Nice, I was slightly nervous there for a second.
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“@AdamZagoria: Orlando Sanchez is headed home to the DR Wednesday & will sign his NLI to #stjbb there with his family later this week sources told @SNYtv”
Okay, thank you. Can you help me off the ledge?
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Apparently his coach at Monroe is stating Sanchez has not committed anywhere, as reported by MjDinkens on Redmen.com
Perhaps just a formality?
Signing after committing may be considered a formality but never verbalizing a commitment seems to me to be more than a formality otherwise it is just a formality that Kate Upton is going on a date with me this saturday night.
How do you know he did not verbal? Maybe his coach is out of the loop. BTW don't quit your day job, comedy not your calling.
I don't know. Was going by the recent prior posts which seemed to be saying he didn't commit. Let's just hope we get him. And BTW wasn't trying to be funny-was just fantasizing about Ms Upton.
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“@AdamZagoria: Orlando Sanchez is headed home to the DR Wednesday & will sign his NLI to #stjbb there with his family later this week sources told @SNYtv”
Okay, thank you. Can you help me off the ledge?
Go ahead and jump...its not that far of a drop I promise ;)
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“@AdamZagoria: Orlando Sanchez is headed home to the DR Wednesday & will sign his NLI to #stjbb there with his family later this week sources told @SNYtv”
Maybe Steve gets some more miles by being in the Dominican for the signing
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Day like today, I wanna be in the DR.
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“@AdamZagoria: Orlando Sanchez is headed home to the DR Wednesday & will sign his NLI to #stjbb there with his family later this week sources told @SNYtv”
Okay, thank you. Can you help me off the ledge?
Go ahead and jump...its not that far of a drop I promise ;)
LOL
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Apparently his coach at Monroe is stating Sanchez has not committed anywhere, as reported by MjDinkens on Redmen.com
Perhaps just a formality?
Signing after committing may be considered a formality but never verbalizing a commitment seems to me to be more than a formality otherwise it is just a formality that Kate Upton is going on a date with me this saturday night.
monroe assistant athletic director tells me orlando isn't a done deal...yet. not that it won't happen..but it's not done.
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Orlando Posted this:
"Lo mas malo en la vida es tener que tomar desiciones que te van a cambiar la vida pero en realidad no saber para donde ir y en quien confiar"
Loosely translated:
"The worst thing in life is to make decisions that are going to change your life, but in reality, not knowing where to go and who to trust"
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Sanchez not committed
auburn.247sports.com
JUCO power forward Orlando Sanchez has not committed to St. John's and is still considering Auburn and Providence.
http://auburn.247sports.com/Article/Sanchez-not-committed-71305 (http://auburn.247sports.com/Article/Sanchez-not-committed-71305)
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Sanchez not committed
auburn.247sports.com
JUCO power forward Orlando Sanchez has not committed to St. John's and is still considering Auburn and Providence.
http://auburn.247sports.com/Article/Sanchez-not-committed-71305 (http://auburn.247sports.com/Article/Sanchez-not-committed-71305)
Already posted...other sources say he has committed
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I knew all along that signing Sanchez was a definite maybe. Knew this for months
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it's still in the maybe column. he's still undecided.
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I knew all along that signing Sanchez was a definite maybe. Knew this for months
Cute
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I knew all along that signing Sanchez was a definite maybe. Knew this for months
Breaking news! Insider info! So cool!
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I knew all along that signing Sanchez was a definite maybe. Knew this for months
Breaking news! Insider info! So cool!
What is next in terms of inside info- KA reconsiders and goes to Iona?
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No Anderson wanted to go to Seton Hall up until a week before he signed at UCLA. Again, I've known this for years but couldn't post it.
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paultzman how would you compare him to GG?
It's not even close. Orlando has much better hands, a pretty consistent midrange jumpshot, probably 2 inches bigger, runs the floor better and is an extremely impressive passer.
Orlando takes ridiculously long strides when he runs. Can use some work on some of the finite footwork but I really believe the kid is an NBA player.
Bump
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paultzman how would you compare him to GG?
It's not even close. Orlando has much better hands, a pretty consistent midrange jumpshot, probably 2 inches bigger, runs the floor better and is an extremely impressive passer.
Orlando takes ridiculously long strides when he runs. Can use some work on some of the finite footwork but I really believe the kid is an NBA player.
Bump
I think I've asked this before, but Theo said he thought Sanchez looked like a future NBA-player... really??
That would be tremendous. But I didn't see that kind of talent jumping off the screen when I watched his two playoff games online.
The moving without the ball, passing, ball-handling ... that's all true though, from what I saw. Just didn't see any one skill that jumped out at me. Or a go to scoring move.
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I knew all along that signing Sanchez was a definite maybe. Knew this for months
Breaking news! Insider info! So cool!
What is next in terms of inside info- KA reconsiders and goes to Iona?
Naw - it's Oak Hill's Jordan Adams now telling RIVALS that he's had to bite his tongue till signing day, but that he, Shabazz Mohammad and Kyle Anderson made a pact two ago they were all going to UCLA. Coulda saved the Jungle about 2,500 KA posts! http://ucla.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1353980 (http://ucla.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1353980)
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Naw - it's Oak Hill's Jordan Adams now telling RIVALS that he's had to bite his tongue till signing day, but that he, Shabazz Mohammad and Kyle Anderson made a pact two ago they were all going to UCLA. Coulda saved the Jungle about 2,500 KA posts! http://ucla.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1353980 (http://ucla.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1353980)
If this is true then Anderson lied to the press a two weeks ago when he said he was going to Seton Hall until a week before he made his announcement and changed his mind to UCLA the week before he announced.
Kyle Anderson
St. Anthony (Jersey City, N.J.), G/F
Signed to: UCLA
The school that came in second for me was …
“Seton Hall. I’ve never told anyone this, but this is crazy. Exactly a week before I chose UCLA I had decided that I was going to Seton Hall. It was a done deal. Then I had another talk with my family the next day and I felt like it was UCLA. If UCLA didn’t exist I’d be at Seton Hall, no question. I just couldn’t turn down [UCLA], the tradition, the weather, the beach, all the pros that play there in the summer. Plus I’m cool with Russell Westbrook and Kevin Love, just everything about it. And I mean, c’mon, it’s L.A.!”
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Anyone else take the 4/5/6 train the last two days and notice the huge advertisements for Monroe College?? (home to Marco and Orlando)
The ads tout Monroe's athletics teams and school spirit... and take up the whole length of the subway car haha
"Here are Some Statistics to Know: national ranking for Monroe's teams - Men's Basketball #3, Mens/Womens Soccer #2, Women's Basketball #1"
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Naw - it's Oak Hill's Jordan Adams now telling RIVALS that he's had to bite his tongue till signing day, but that he, Shabazz Mohammad and Kyle Anderson made a pact two ago they were all going to UCLA. Coulda saved the Jungle about 2,500 KA posts! http://ucla.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1353980 (http://ucla.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1353980)
If this is true then Anderson lied to the press a two weeks ago when he said he was going to Seton Hall until a week before he made his announcement and changed his mind to UCLA the week before he announced.
Kyle Anderson
St. Anthony (Jersey City, N.J.), G/F
Signed to: UCLA
The school that came in second for me was …
“Seton Hall. I’ve never told anyone this, but this is crazy. Exactly a week before I chose UCLA I had decided that I was going to Seton Hall. It was a done deal. Then I had another talk with my family the next day and I felt like it was UCLA. If UCLA didn’t exist I’d be at Seton Hall, no question. I just couldn’t turn down [UCLA], the tradition, the weather, the beach, all the pros that play there in the summer. Plus I’m cool with Russell Westbrook and Kevin Love, just everything about it. And I mean, c’mon, it’s L.A.!”
No not really. Adams said they made this pact 2 years ago. Kyle Anderson probably thought about breaking the pact and then in the end decided not to. That assumes there ever was a pact or that Kyle really was going to SHU up until a week before his decision.
At the end of the day, who cares?
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Anyone else take the 4/5/6 train the last two days and notice the huge advertisements for Monroe College?? (home to Marco and Orlando)
The ads tout Monroe's athletics teams and school spirit... and take up the whole length of the subway car haha
"Here are Some Statistics to Know: national ranking for Monroe's teams - Men's Basketball #3, Mens/Womens Soccer #2, Women's Basketball #1"
Something for all those PSAL kids who can't get eligible to think about. Why go to the middle of nowhere in Kansas or Idaho when you can play for a decent program right at home, and have your family and friends cheer you on.
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Naw - it's Oak Hill's Jordan Adams now telling RIVALS that he's had to bite his tongue till signing day, but that he, Shabazz Mohammad and Kyle Anderson made a pact two ago they were all going to UCLA. Coulda saved the Jungle about 2,500 KA posts! http://ucla.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1353980 (http://ucla.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1353980)
If this is true then Anderson lied to the press a two weeks ago when he said he was going to Seton Hall until a week before he made his announcement and changed his mind to UCLA the week before he announced.
Kyle Anderson
St. Anthony (Jersey City, N.J.), G/F
Signed to: UCLA
The school that came in second for me was …
“Seton Hall. I’ve never told anyone this, but this is crazy. Exactly a week before I chose UCLA I had decided that I was going to Seton Hall. It was a done deal. Then I had another talk with my family the next day and I felt like it was UCLA. If UCLA didn’t exist I’d be at Seton Hall, no question. I just couldn’t turn down [UCLA], the tradition, the weather, the beach, all the pros that play there in the summer. Plus I’m cool with Russell Westbrook and Kevin Love, just everything about it. And I mean, c’mon, it’s L.A.!”
No not really. Adams said they made this pact 2 years ago. Kyle Anderson probably thought about breaking the pact and then in the end decided not to. That assumes there ever was a pact or that Kyle really was going to SHU up until a week before his decision.
At the end of the day, who cares?
I really don't care either Fordham but I truly believe had it not been for the negative things surrounding St Johns right around the time of his decision that we would have been hard to beat.
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Naw - it's Oak Hill's Jordan Adams now telling RIVALS that he's had to bite his tongue till signing day, but that he, Shabazz Mohammad and Kyle Anderson made a pact two ago they were all going to UCLA. Coulda saved the Jungle about 2,500 KA posts! http://ucla.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1353980 (http://ucla.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1353980)
If this is true then Anderson lied to the press a two weeks ago when he said he was going to Seton Hall until a week before he made his announcement and changed his mind to UCLA the week before he announced.
Kyle Anderson
St. Anthony (Jersey City, N.J.), G/F
Signed to: UCLA
The school that came in second for me was …
“Seton Hall. I’ve never told anyone this, but this is crazy. Exactly a week before I chose UCLA I had decided that I was going to Seton Hall. It was a done deal. Then I had another talk with my family the next day and I felt like it was UCLA. If UCLA didn’t exist I’d be at Seton Hall, no question. I just couldn’t turn down [UCLA], the tradition, the weather, the beach, all the pros that play there in the summer. Plus I’m cool with Russell Westbrook and Kevin Love, just everything about it. And I mean, c’mon, it’s L.A.!”
No not really. Adams said they made this pact 2 years ago. Kyle Anderson probably thought about breaking the pact and then in the end decided not to. That assumes there ever was a pact or that Kyle really was going to SHU up until a week before his decision.
At the end of the day, who cares?
I really don't care either Fordham but I truly believe had it not been for the negative things surrounding St Johns right around the time of his decision that we would have been hard to beat.
You're probably right wrt SJU and there is no question that Willard and Co. did a good job on KA as well. At this point I just see no reason to continue this, he's gone. And I could care less what he does.
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That kid from Patterson is like a computer virus. It (he) will not go away. Here he pops up on a site for one of this season's best recruits. Let "Vinny Chase the Second" RIP. Focus on Orlando!!!
I do like the idea of HS kids from NYC heading up to Monroe for a year or two rather than going west.
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That kid from Patterson is like a computer virus. It (he) will not go away. Here he pops up on a site for one of this season's best recruits. Let "Vinny Chase the Second" RIP. Focus on Orlando!!!
I do like the idea of HS kids from NYC heading up to Monroe for a year or two rather than going west.
Good point, I hope his college career is as good as the legend he created. I will give it a rest.
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i guess he's going to "officially" announce on Facebook today...
Orlando Sanchez
Oficialmente yo voy a jugar con la universidad de ....................
I'm officially going to play with the University of... (Translated by Bing)
Like · · about an hour ago ·
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i guess he's going to "officially" announce on Facebook today...
Orlando Sanchez
Oficialmente yo voy a jugar con la universidad de ....................
I'm officially going to play with the University of... (Translated by Bing)
Like · · about an hour ago ·
I heard it's Auburn.
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That is not funny!
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i guess he's going to "officially" announce on Facebook today...
Orlando Sanchez
Oficialmente yo voy a jugar con la universidad de ....................
I'm officially going to play with the University of... (Translated by Bing)
Like · · about an hour ago ·
I heard it's Auburn.
Don't even joke like that :)
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could the possibility of Orlando committing somewhere else be the reason why Lavin is still bringing in a few recruits on visits?
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Please stop! This is torture.
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He's not committing to Auburn. That would be insane. Auburn is one of the worst programs in the nation.
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Saw a tweet he is signing his LOI Wed in DR,
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Sedatives for all of our antsy members! LJSA causing heart attacks!
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Tweeted 4 minutes ago, relax!!!!!
“@NYPost_Brazille: Orlando Sanchez has committed and #stjbb will get his NLI this weekend, per source, which confirms @AdamZagoria report #boyshoops”
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Tweeted 4 minutes ago, relax!!!!!
“@NYPost_Brazille: Orlando Sanchez has committed and #stjbb will get his NLI this weekend, per source, which confirms @AdamZagoria report #boyshoops”
No need to freak out. We are competing with Auburn and Providence.
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For the worried wounded
“@NYPost_Brazille: Orlando Sanchez has signed with #stjbb per a Monroe CC release.”
Zags just reported the same.
“@AdamZagoria: Orlando Sanchez Signs With St. John's http://t.co/tlhc2p9i (http://t.co/tlhc2p9i)”
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thank the lord! will have a few cold ones tonight in honor of Sampson and Sanchez signing NLI
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LJ
Don't stir the pot like that
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With more to come! Baron, Paul Hewitt, Seth Greenberg or Lavin? Lucky to have this guy!!!
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Hysterical. Well played.
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Tweeted 4 minutes ago, relax!!!!!
“@NYPost_Brazille: Orlando Sanchez has committed and #stjbb will get his NLI this weekend, per source, which confirms @AdamZagoria report #boyshoops”
You guys did not really doubt this, did you??? LOL!
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BTW-I think some of the Auburn chatter with Orlando the last few days came from a strong rumor that Calipari reached out to Orlando on behalf of Barbee and Auburn.
In the end though it was always SJU.
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BTW-I think some of the Auburn chatter with Orlando the last few days came from a strong rumor that Calipari reached out to Orlando on behalf of Barbee and Auburn.
In the end though it was always SJU.
Was that a rumor the Auburn fans started? Because I can't see Cal helping recruit a player to another SEC school, even a terrible basketball program like Auburn, and even for a former player. You just don't help another team in your conference recruit. You agree ?
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"He can score, defend multiple positions, rebound, run the floor and block shots. Orlando is a truly skilled and unselfish passer who could have chosen to score even more during his junior college career. My staff calls Orlando a 'prototypical Lavin player' reminiscent of a Trevor Ariza, Matt Barnes or Moe Harkless." - Steve Lavin
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BTW-I think some of the Auburn chatter with Orlando the last few days came from a strong rumor that Calipari reached out to Orlando on behalf of Barbee and Auburn.
In the end though it was always SJU.
Was that a rumor the Auburn fans started? Because I can't see Cal helping recruit a player to another SEC school, even a terrible basketball program like Auburn, and even for a former player. You just don't help another team in your conference recruit. You agree ?
Cal and Barbee are close and Cal was doing a favor for his buddy with a kid he had a relationship with already. He wouldn't do that for Billy Donovan obviously. He is not worried at least not in the immediate future about Auburn challenging UK in the SEC.
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http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/high_school/basketball/st_john_inks_high_flying_duo_Ct1DuYpb6HilOWT4wjNojL (http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/high_school/basketball/st_john_inks_high_flying_duo_Ct1DuYpb6HilOWT4wjNojL)
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http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/high_school/basketball/st_john_inks_high_flying_duo_Ct1DuYpb6HilOWT4wjNojL (http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/high_school/basketball/st_john_inks_high_flying_duo_Ct1DuYpb6HilOWT4wjNojL)
The Wood line is poorly written. Makes it sound like he's in the fold.
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"He can score, defend multiple positions, rebound, run the floor and block shots. Orlando is a truly skilled and unselfish passer who could have chosen to score even more during his junior college career. My staff calls Orlando a 'prototypical Lavin player' reminiscent of a Trevor Ariza, Matt Barnes or Moe Harkless." - Steve Lavin
The staff is wrong. They need to call Orlanod a "prototypicl Lavin RECRUIT", if they're going to include Trevor Ariza in the equation. Ariza never PLAYED for Steve Lavin. He was Steves next to last RECRUIT at UCLA. Ben Howland refused the last recruit, Sean Phaler, but did re-recruit and keep Ariza, who was a one and done (second rounder).
Another "what if" by the way. If there 2 more sseasons, a junior Ariza is starting at SF for UCLA in 2006 instead of converted PG Ced Bozeman, and UCLA likely beats Florida in the Title game, and Ariza leaves as a Lotto pick.
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http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/high_school/basketball/st_john_inks_high_flying_duo_Ct1DuYpb6HilOWT4wjNojL (http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/high_school/basketball/st_john_inks_high_flying_duo_Ct1DuYpb6HilOWT4wjNojL)
The Wood line is poorly written. Makes it sound like he's in the fold.
no max hooper mention?? i guess because he won't be eligible till 2013?
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Told Orlando will probably be on the DR team
“@awireman: USA vs. Dominican Republic game could potentially include Calipari, Antigua, Strickland, Davis, Vargas, Garcia and Sosa..”
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Told Orlando will probably be on the DR team
“@awireman: USA vs. Dominican Republic game could potentially include Calipari, Antigua, Strickland, Davis, Vargas, Garcia and Sosa..”
He looked seriously impressive in the DR tape, but he was playing SF. It's great to get that kind of experience playing with pros, but I hope he's playing down low! That's probably our starting center.
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Told Orlando will probably be on the DR team
“@awireman: USA vs. Dominican Republic game could potentially include Calipari, Antigua, Strickland, Davis, Vargas, Garcia and Sosa..”
He looked seriously impressive in the DR tape, but he was playing SF. It's great to get that kind of experience playing with pros, but I hope he's playing down low! That's probably our starting center.
Which really isn't a big deal this season. We'll be deep regardless. Would still like one big body up front but not just to throw a scholarship out there. Holding hope that Chandler might qualify or even Obekpa decides he wants t stay in NY. Not one to cry over though. We will be tough regardless this season and there is no fab Melo in our league.
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Told Orlando will probably be on the DR team
“@awireman: USA vs. Dominican Republic game could potentially include Calipari, Antigua, Strickland, Davis, Vargas, Garcia and Sosa..”
He looked seriously impressive in the DR tape, but he was playing SF. It's great to get that kind of experience playing with pros, but I hope he's playing down low! That's probably our starting center.
Which really isn't a big deal this season. We'll be deep regardless. Would still like one big body up front but not just to throw a scholarship out there. Holding hope that Chandler might qualify or even Obekpa decides he wants t stay in NY. Not one to cry over though. We will be tough regardless this season and there is no fab Melo in our league.
I've been advocating for another big since Pelle didn't qualify. But more and more I'm realizing how right you are.
We need to team-rebound, but this past season we saw an exceptionally strong group of centers, it won't happen next year. From A Davis to Drummond to Melo, Dieng, Josh Smith, the Plumlees, even H Pope... We saw probably 7 of the top 10 centers in college bball.
The Big East will only have Dieng returning and other than him the best post players are going to be PFs, who might be a little meatier than Jakarr or Sanchez.. but who wont pose the height problems or shot blocking capabilities Melo and co had.
After Deing the best post players are going to be the likes of Behannan, Cooley, Melvin, Porter.. maybe Yarou on Nova. We can match up with them. Louisville will be big, but they're expected to be a top 5 team.
Other than that who am I missing from the Big East ?
Keita on Syracuse ?? ehh. No real threats coming in as freshmen except maybe Adams for Pitt.
It's hard to plan a team on paper when you don't have a prototypical center. But I'm beginning to see the point that MCNPA and Marilac make about the need for height being overrated and obsessed over by us fans.
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The way I look at it, last years team had 1 big and that was Gift. This years team will have 3 Gift, Jakarr and Orlando. They are 3,4 that will play out of position at the 5
IMO Moe was 6'8, but he was not a big. He was a wing 2,3.
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The way I look at it, last years team had 1 big and that was Gift. This years team will have 3 Gift, Jakarr and Orlando. They are 3,4 that will play out of position at the 5
IMO Moe was 6'8, but he was not a big. He was a wing 2,3.
Moe is not a 2 at all. 3/4 yes but a 2, no way.
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Moe rebounded like a big.
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We were very lucky to avoid injuries last season. If we are not so lucky and lose a big to injury do you really want to go against good teams with only two out of GG, Jakarr and Sanchez. Would still love another big.
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Is Orlando really 24? If so he will be a lot stronger than I thought. And give us some time at the 5.
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“@STJ_Basketball: Gr8 piece! RT @GregLogan1: Reinforcements have arrived at #STJBB headed by JaKarr Sampson and Orlando Sanchez: http://t.co/Dg4tnukt. (http://t.co/Dg4tnukt.)”
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Is Orlando really 24? If so he will be a lot stronger than I thought. And give us some time at the 5.
If Chandler isn't cleared it'll be more than some.
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Is Orlando really 24? If so he will be a lot stronger than I thought. And give us some time at the 5.
Who said Orlando is 24? He played on the 21 and under Dominican team this year.
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Is Orlando really 24? If so he will be a lot stronger than I thought. And give us some time at the 5.
Who said Orlando is 24? He played on the 21 and under Dominican team this year.
Just looked up his age and he is 23. Don't know how he played on that team. Not bad for us though.
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Is Orlando really 24? If so he will be a lot stronger than I thought. And give us some time at the 5.
Who said Orlando is 24? He played on the 21 and under Dominican team this year.
Just looked up his age and he is 23. Don't know how he played in that team. Not bad for us though.
Leap year
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Sorry if its already been answered but is he playing for the olympic team this year?
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Is Orlando really 24? If so he will be a lot stronger than I thought. And give us some time at the 5.
Who said Orlando is 24? He played on the 21 and under Dominican team this year.
Just looked up his age and he is 23. Don't know how he played on that team. Not bad for us though.
Where?
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Is Orlando really 24? If so he will be a lot stronger than I thought. And give us some time at the 5.
Who said Orlando is 24? He played on the 21 and under Dominican team this year.
Just looked up his age and he is 23. Don't know how he played on that team. Not bad for us though.
Where?
Where did I look his age up?
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Is Orlando really 24? If so he will be a lot stronger than I thought. And give us some time at the 5.
Who said Orlando is 24? He played on the 21 and under Dominican team this year.
Just looked up his age and he is 23. Don't know how he played on that team. Not bad for us though.
Where?
Where did I look his age up?
Yea, I'm curious because I checked Monroe page when the poster brought it up, but they didn't have anything.
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Is Orlando really 24? If so he will be a lot stronger than I thought. And give us some time at the 5.
Who said Orlando is 24? He played on the 21 and under Dominican team this year.
Just looked up his age and he is 23. Don't know how he played on that team. Not bad for us though.
Where?
Where did I look his age up?
Yea, I'm curious because I checked Monroe page when the poster brought it up, but they didn't have anything.
I wasn't aware that he was that old.. But a couple of sites have his age listed.
http://basketball.realgm.com/player/Orlando_Sanchez/Summary/28294 (http://basketball.realgm.com/player/Orlando_Sanchez/Summary/28294)
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Is Orlando really 24? If so he will be a lot stronger than I thought. And give us some time at the 5.
Who said Orlando is 24? He played on the 21 and under Dominican team this year.
Just looked up his age and he is 23. Don't know how he played on that team. Not bad for us though.
Where?
Where did I look his age up?
Yea, I'm curious because I checked Monroe page when the poster brought it up, but they didn't have anything.
I wasn't aware that he was that old.. But a couple of sites have his age listed.
http://basketball.realgm.com/player/Orlando_Sanchez/Summary/28294 (http://basketball.realgm.com/player/Orlando_Sanchez/Summary/28294)
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But why would he be draft eligible in 2014 then?
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At this point, who cares how old he is? Hes a Johnnie. Half these MEN playing college ball are probably older than Greg Oden and Jevon Thomas anyways
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Is Orlando really 24? If so he will be a lot stronger than I thought. And give us some time at the 5.
Who said Orlando is 24? He played on the 21 and under Dominican team this year.
Just looked up his age and he is 23. Don't know how he played on that team. Not bad for us though.
Where?
Where did I look his age up?
Yea, I'm curious because I checked Monroe page when the poster brought it up, but they didn't have anything.
I wasn't aware that he was that old.. But a couple of sites have his age listed.
http://basketball.realgm.com/player/Orlando_Sanchez/Summary/28294 (http://basketball.realgm.com/player/Orlando_Sanchez/Summary/28294)
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But why would he be draft eligible in 2014 then?
I was thinking the same thing. I could have swore he was on the 21under team.. Beats me.. Not that it matters :)
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominican_Republic_national_basketball_team#section_2 (http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominican_Republic_national_basketball_team#section_2)
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Is Orlando really 24? If so he will be a lot stronger than I thought. And give us some time at the 5.
Who said Orlando is 24? He played on the 21 and under Dominican team this year.
Just looked up his age and he is 23. Don't know how he played on that team. Not bad for us though.
Where?
Where did I look his age up?
Yea, I'm curious because I checked Monroe page when the poster brought it up, but they didn't have anything.
I wasn't aware that he was that old.. But a couple of sites have his age listed.
http://basketball.realgm.com/player/Orlando_Sanchez/Summary/28294 (http://basketball.realgm.com/player/Orlando_Sanchez/Summary/28294)
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But why would he be draft eligible in 2014 then?
I was thinking the same thing. I could have swore he was on the 21under team.. Beats me.. Not that it matters :)
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominican_Republic_national_basketball_team#section_2 (http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominican_Republic_national_basketball_team#section_2)
Listed at Center.
Oh and look at the assistant coaches
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Is Orlando really 24? If so he will be a lot stronger than I thought. And give us some time at the 5.
Who said Orlando is 24? He played on the 21 and under Dominican team this year.
Just looked up his age and he is 23. Don't know how he played on that team. Not bad for us though.
Where?
Where did I look his age up?
Yea, I'm curious because I checked Monroe page when the poster brought it up, but they didn't have anything.
I wasn't aware that he was that old.. But a couple of sites have his age listed.
http://basketball.realgm.com/player/Orlando_Sanchez/Summary/28294 (http://basketball.realgm.com/player/Orlando_Sanchez/Summary/28294)
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But why would he be draft eligible in 2014 then?
I was thinking the same thing. I could have swore he was on the 21under team.. Beats me.. Not that it matters :)
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominican_Republic_national_basketball_team#section_2 (http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominican_Republic_national_basketball_team#section_2)
Listed at Center.
Oh and look at the assistant coaches
Hot Rod! Luis Flores, thats a name I havent heard in awhile
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Cal coaching the Dominican team makes me sick
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Sanchez is picked to have the greatest impact of any Juco according to Yahoo!
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/ncaab--junior-college-transfers-big-impact-big-east-sec-next-season.html (http://sports.yahoo.com/news/ncaab--junior-college-transfers-big-impact-big-east-sec-next-season.html)
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Sanchez is picked to have the greatest impact of any Juco according to Yahoo!
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/ncaab--junior-college-transfers-big-impact-big-east-sec-next-season.html (http://sports.yahoo.com/news/ncaab--junior-college-transfers-big-impact-big-east-sec-next-season.html)
Really good write-up all around. Never heard of that guy prior but impressed with that article.
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Sanchez is picked to have the greatest impact of any Juco according to Yahoo!
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/ncaab--junior-college-transfers-big-impact-big-east-sec-next-season.html (http://sports.yahoo.com/news/ncaab--junior-college-transfers-big-impact-big-east-sec-next-season.html)
Glad to hear the write pegs us for a possible NCAA tourney appearance.
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The "isn't a gifted player offensively" comment aside, that is a positive article. If he is a legit 6'9 and his athleticism is as advertised, he will be a great addition.
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The "isn't a gifted player offensively" comment aside, that is a positive article. If he is a legit 6'9 and his athleticism is as advertised, he will be a great addition.
It is interesting how he can't be gifted offensively yet will give the most impact.
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And P.S. wish Orlando happy birthday as he will be 24 on Saturday.
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I thought he was gifted offensively? A few pages back I asked if he was as good as brown lee? People that saw him said that was a good comparison.
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I thought he was gifted offensively? A few pages back I asked if he was as good as brown lee? People that saw him said that was a good comparison.
The kid can ball.
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I thought he was gifted offensively? A few pages back I asked if he was as good as brown lee? People that saw him said that was a good comparison.
If everyone told you the sky was blue and one person told you it was green, would you immediately forget all those who told you the sky was blue?
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And P.S. wish Orlando happy birthday as he will be 24 on Saturday.
Wow.
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And P.S. wish Orlando happy birthday as he will be 24 on Saturday.
Wow.
Man amongst boys
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At least we know who can make the beer runs for parties
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At least we know who can make the beer runs for parties
And we know Amir can pick up the tab!
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Sanchez is picked to have the greatest impact of any Juco according to Yahoo!
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/ncaab--junior-college-transfers-big-impact-big-east-sec-next-season.html (http://sports.yahoo.com/news/ncaab--junior-college-transfers-big-impact-big-east-sec-next-season.html)
Really good write-up all around. Never heard of that guy prior but impressed with that article.
I agree. He showed an awesome handle on basketball and knowledge of the Johnnies. It's sad that this guy is more in tune with STJ than Robbins and co.
FWIW, Sanchez was selected over Kentucky's Eloy Vargas for the Dominican team last year. That says something because Cal was Vargas' coach at the time. The Dominican team was loaded: Luis Flores, Ronald Ramon, Edgar Sosa, Charlie Villanueva, Al Horford, Francisco Garcia, and their second leading scorer and leading rebounder, Jack Martinez, is a Ben Wallace clone. Sanchez was fifth on the depth chart for the bigs (after 3 NBA guys and Martinez), and eighth overall. Cal said he selected him becuase of his ability to defend multiple positions. He played 10 mpg, playing in every game but one, and averaged 2.3 points 2.1 boards, .4 blocks, and .3 assists. I'd be ecstatic if he gave us 3x that this coming season: 7.3 point, 6.2 boards, 1.2 blocks, and .9 assists. Although I really feel like he could around 2.5 blocks or more in the zone.
Sanchez was just selected again for the 23-man preliminary Olympic squad for the Dominican. This time he will have to face even steeper competition with guys like Sammy Mejia (Depaul),
Ricardor Greer (Pitt), and Josh Asselin (Michigan) around. If he makes the final cut that is really saying something.
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And P.S. wish Orlando happy birthday as he will be 24 on Saturday.
26 when he finishes his time at SJU, yikes.
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And P.S. wish Orlando happy birthday as he will be 24 on Saturday.
26 when he finishes his time at SJU, yikes.
Why yikes?
Do we know why he's older? Odds are the Dominican Republic wasn't exactly pumping out Rhodes Scholars with their curriculum.
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And P.S. wish Orlando happy birthday as he will be 24 on Saturday.
26 when he finishes his time at SJU, yikes.
Why yikes?
Do we know why he's older? Odds are the Dominican Republic wasn't exactly pumping out Rhodes Scholars with their curriculum.
Be careful, PMG will research his high school grades!
Only kidding PMG!
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Sanchez is picked to have the greatest impact of any Juco according to Yahoo!
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/ncaab--junior-college-transfers-big-impact-big-east-sec-next-season.html (http://sports.yahoo.com/news/ncaab--junior-college-transfers-big-impact-big-east-sec-next-season.html)
Really good write-up all around. Never heard of that guy prior but impressed with that article.
I agree. He showed an awesome handle on basketball and knowledge of the Johnnies. It's sad that this guy is more in tune with STJ than Robbins and co.
FWIW, Sanchez was selected over Kentucky's Eloy Vargas for the Dominican team last year. That says something because Cal was Vargas' coach at the time. The Dominican team was loaded: Luis Flores, Ronald Ramon, Edgar Sosa, Charlie Villanueva, Al Horford, Francisco Garcia, and their second leading scorer and leading rebounder, Jack Martinez, is a Ben Wallace clone. Sanchez was fifth on the depth chart for the bigs (after 3 NBA guys and Martinez), and eighth overall. Cal said he selected him becuase of his ability to defend multiple positions. He played 10 mpg, playing in every game but one, and averaged 2.3 points 2.1 boards, .4 blocks, and .3 assists. I'd be ecstatic if he gave us 3x that this coming season: 7.3 point, 6.2 boards, 1.2 blocks, and .9 assists. Although I really feel like he could around 2.5 blocks or more in the zone.
Sanchez was just selected again for the 23-man preliminary Olympic squad for the Dominican. This time he will have to face even steeper competition with guys like Sammy Mejia (Depaul),
Ricardor Greer (Pitt), and Josh Asselin (Michigan) around. If he makes the final cut that is really saying something.
The Dominican team also has a terrific f/c named Jack Martinez. Went to Artesian High School in Los Angeles with Jason Kapono, and many thought he was the BETTER prospect. But it turned out he was illegally "recruited" to high school, imigrating on his brother's passport, and he was deported. So rather than playing with Kapono for UCLA, he simply turned pro in the Dominican. At the Pan American games last year (might have been the year before) he and Al Horford inside were dominant for the Dominican team. If Sanchez makes that final cut, that'd be a heckuv an accomplishment.
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This has probably been answered previously. Im assuming he will be on the Dominican olympic team. Is that a correct assupmtiom?
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Sorry I see the previous post answered my question.
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Frankly, I see it is a plus that he is older than most of the people he'll be playing against.
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Frankly, I see it is a plus that he is older than most of the people he'll be playing against.
Yea, I don't see that as a negative either. If we were talking about his future potential, i'd say he probably has a lower ceiling than some other guys since he's already more physically mature. But he's only going to be here for two years. And realistically, physical maturity and experience generally are two things we sorely lack.
I also think you that was a very wise comment Moose, when you said:
"He played 10 mpg, playing in every game but one, and averaged 2.3 points 2.1 boards, .4 blocks, and .3 assists. I'd be ecstatic if he gave us 3x that this coming season: 7.3 point, 6.2 boards, 1.2 blocks, and .9 assists. Although I really feel like he could around 2.5 blocks or more in the zone."
That sounds like realistic expectations, comparable to what Amir gave us last season, but a few more boards, and more of a shot blocking threat.
I'm excited about Orlando, I think he's going to be a nice player for us.
Two things that I would point out though, one an observation from seeing his games online, and the other based on box scores..
He's not a back-to the basket offensive player. At least he hasn't shown that yet. So while I think he can guard the post without much problem, people shouldn't expect him to be post-up guy on the other side of the floor. And, of a more direct concern, he's not quite automatic from the foul line. %60 at Monroe (with no crowds to speak of). So, obviously that's not the worst thing in the world - but it is a concern when Dom and Amir both under-perform from the line as well. Team foul shooting will continue to be an issue it looks like.
But generally, we're lucky to have Orlando, I think having him and Amir on the court at the same time, and a real pg when Branch is ready.. will really open up our offense and get the ball moving. Have a feeling Dunlap has been dieing for some guys with court vision.
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Frankly, I see it is a plus that he is older than most of the people he'll be playing against.
Yea, I don't see that as a negative either. If we were talking about his future potential, i'd say he probably has a lower ceiling than some other guys since he's already more physically mature. But he's only going to be here for two years. And realistically, physical maturity and experience generally are two things we sorely lack.
I also think you that was a very wise comment Moose, when you said:
"He played 10 mpg, playing in every game but one, and averaged 2.3 points 2.1 boards, .4 blocks, and .3 assists. I'd be ecstatic if he gave us 3x that this coming season: 7.3 point, 6.2 boards, 1.2 blocks, and .9 assists. Although I really feel like he could around 2.5 blocks or more in the zone."
That sounds like realistic expectations, comparable to what Amir gave us last season, but a few more boards, and more of a shot blocking threat.
I'm excited about Orlando, I think he's going to be a nice player for us.
Two things that I would point out though, one an observation from seeing his games online, and the other based on box scores..
He's not a back-to the basket offensive player. At least he hasn't shown that yet. So while I think he can guard the post without much problem, people shouldn't expect him to be post-up guy on the other side of the floor. And, of a more direct concern, he's not quite automatic from the foul line. %60 at Monroe (with no crowds to speak of). So, obviously that's not the worst thing in the world - but it is a concern when Dom and Amir both under-perform from the line as well. Team foul shooting will continue to be an issue it looks like.
But generally, we're lucky to have Orlando, I think having him and Amir on the court at the same time, and a real pg when Branch is ready.. will really open up our offense and get the ball moving. Have a feeling Dunlap has been dieing for some guys with court vision.
Thanks for the compliment but Marillac said that :) Don't inflate his ego more ;)
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Wasn't some guy just drafted in the nfl a qb or something who was like 28 ?
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Wasn't some guy just drafted in the nfl a qb or something who was like 28 ?
Yes Brandon Weeden is 28 drafted by the Browns.
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Wasn't some guy just drafted in the nfl a qb or something who was like 28 ?
Yea but he played minor league baseball
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Wasn't some guy just drafted in the nfl a qb or something who was like 28 ?
Yea but he played minor league baseball
U$C and Chi Bulls player Taj Gibson was 25 his NBA rookie season in 2010.
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Wasn't some guy just drafted in the nfl a qb or something who was like 28 ?
Yea but he played minor league baseball
U$C and Chi Bulls player Taj Gibson was 25 his NBA rookie season in 2010.
Didn't he play just one year at USC?
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Wasn't some guy just drafted in the nfl a qb or something who was like 28 ?
Yea but he played minor league baseball
U$C and Chi Bulls player Taj Gibson was 25 his NBA rookie season in 2010.
Didn't he play just one year at USC?
No, he was there three seasons
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Wow, didn't realize Orlando was this old.
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Orlando checks in at no. 4 on Brad Winton's top 100 JUCO players for 2012:
http://www.jucorecruiting.com/?page_id=434 (http://www.jucorecruiting.com/?page_id=434)
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Orlando checks in at no. 4 on Brad Winton's top 100 JUCO players for 2012:
http://www.jucorecruiting.com/?page_id=434 (http://www.jucorecruiting.com/?page_id=434)
Interesting - #15 on the list is 6'9 Matt Korcheck. Matt's going to Arizona BECAUSE they've told him he can redshirt this year. With only 2 years eligibility, he feels he still needs another year of development - and thinks that one or maybe two of Arizona's top 20 frosh bigs are going to be one and done. Kerchack has potential and skills, but feels he's lacked top flight competition needed to develop his game - says he'll get that in practice at AZ with bigs Kaleb Tarczewski (RSCI #7), Grant Jerrett (RSCI #11), Brandon Ashley (RSCI #15), returnees 7'0 Kyryl Natyazhko (RSCI #59 in 2009) and Angelo Chol (RSCI #59 in 2011).
Wow - we're sweating out getting ANY true big to come to the Big Apple, and they're REDSHIRTING this kid behind FIVE former top 60 Bigs in frikkin TUCSON.
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Orlando checks in at no. 4 on Brad Winton's top 100 JUCO players for 2012:
http://www.jucorecruiting.com/?page_id=434 (http://www.jucorecruiting.com/?page_id=434)
Interesting - #15 on the list is 6'9 Matt Korcheck. Matt's going to Arizona BECAUSE they've told him he can redshirt this year. With only 2 years eligibility, he feels he still needs another year of development - and thinks that one or maybe two of Arizona's top 20 frosh bigs are going to be one and done. Kerchack has potential and skills, but feels he's lacked top flight competition needed to develop his game - says he'll get that in practice at AZ with bigs Kaleb Tarczewski (RSCI #7), Grant Jerrett (RSCI #11), Brandon Ashley (RSCI #15), returnees 7'0 Kyryl Natyazhko (RSCI #59 in 2009) and Angelo Chol (RSCI #59 in 2011).
Wow - we're sweating out getting ANY true big to come to the Big Apple, and they're REDSHIRTING this kid behind FIVE former top 60 Bigs in frikkin TUCSON.
Arizona has a ridiculous amount of talent. Next year Miller is going to have to put up results. But there's no doubting that he can recruit.
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Orlando checks in at no. 4 on Brad Winton's top 100 JUCO players for 2012:
http://www.jucorecruiting.com/?page_id=434 (http://www.jucorecruiting.com/?page_id=434)
Interesting - #15 on the list is 6'9 Matt Korcheck. Matt's going to Arizona BECAUSE they've told him he can redshirt this year. With only 2 years eligibility, he feels he still needs another year of development - and thinks that one or maybe two of Arizona's top 20 frosh bigs are going to be one and done. Kerchack has potential and skills, but feels he's lacked top flight competition needed to develop his game - says he'll get that in practice at AZ with bigs Kaleb Tarczewski (RSCI #7), Grant Jerrett (RSCI #11), Brandon Ashley (RSCI #15), returnees 7'0 Kyryl Natyazhko (RSCI #59 in 2009) and Angelo Chol (RSCI #59 in 2011).
Wow - we're sweating out getting ANY true big to come to the Big Apple, and they're REDSHIRTING this kid behind FIVE former top 60 Bigs in frikkin TUCSON.
In terms of RSCI players, Arizona is top five in the country after this absurd haul.
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steve tried to get book.
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Orlando checks in at no. 4 on Brad Winton's top 100 JUCO players for 2012:
http://www.jucorecruiting.com/?page_id=434 (http://www.jucorecruiting.com/?page_id=434)
Interesting - #15 on the list is 6'9 Matt Korcheck. Matt's going to Arizona BECAUSE they've told him he can redshirt this year. With only 2 years eligibility, he feels he still needs another year of development - and thinks that one or maybe two of Arizona's top 20 frosh bigs are going to be one and done. Kerchack has potential and skills, but feels he's lacked top flight competition needed to develop his game - says he'll get that in practice at AZ with bigs Kaleb Tarczewski (RSCI #7), Grant Jerrett (RSCI #11), Brandon Ashley (RSCI #15), returnees 7'0 Kyryl Natyazhko (RSCI #59 in 2009) and Angelo Chol (RSCI #59 in 2011).
Wow - we're sweating out getting ANY true big to come to the Big Apple, and they're REDSHIRTING this kid behind FIVE former top 60 Bigs in frikkin TUCSON.
In terms of RSCI players, Arizona is top five in the country after this absurd haul.
And UCLA has #1 Shabazz, #3 Kyle, #18 Josh Smith, #24Tony Parker, #37 David Wear, #38 Travis Wear, #39 Tyler Lamb,#44 Larry Drew, #53 Norm Powell, and #59 Jordan Adams.
So how in the world does the Pac 12 SUCK so badly??????
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Orlando checks in at no. 4 on Brad Winton's top 100 JUCO players for 2012:
http://www.jucorecruiting.com/?page_id=434 (http://www.jucorecruiting.com/?page_id=434)
Interesting - #15 on the list is 6'9 Matt Korcheck. Matt's going to Arizona BECAUSE they've told him he can redshirt this year. With only 2 years eligibility, he feels he still needs another year of development - and thinks that one or maybe two of Arizona's top 20 frosh bigs are going to be one and done. Kerchack has potential and skills, but feels he's lacked top flight competition needed to develop his game - says he'll get that in practice at AZ with bigs Kaleb Tarczewski (RSCI #7), Grant Jerrett (RSCI #11), Brandon Ashley (RSCI #15), returnees 7'0 Kyryl Natyazhko (RSCI #59 in 2009) and Angelo Chol (RSCI #59 in 2011).
Wow - we're sweating out getting ANY true big to come to the Big Apple, and they're REDSHIRTING this kid behind FIVE former top 60 Bigs in frikkin TUCSON.
In terms of RSCI players, Arizona is top five in the country after this absurd haul.
And UCLA has #1 Shabazz, #3 Kyle, #18 Josh Smith, #24Tony Parker, #37 David Wear, #38 Travis Wear, #39 Tyler Lamb,#44 Larry Drew, #53 Norm Powell, and #59 Jordan Adams.
So how in the world does the Pac 12 SUCK so badly??????
I believe that a lot of Pac 12 players turned out to not be the players they were in high school.
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Orlando checks in at no. 4 on Brad Winton's top 100 JUCO players for 2012:
http://www.jucorecruiting.com/?page_id=434 (http://www.jucorecruiting.com/?page_id=434)
Interesting - #15 on the list is 6'9 Matt Korcheck. Matt's going to Arizona BECAUSE they've told him he can redshirt this year. With only 2 years eligibility, he feels he still needs another year of development - and thinks that one or maybe two of Arizona's top 20 frosh bigs are going to be one and done. Kerchack has potential and skills, but feels he's lacked top flight competition needed to develop his game - says he'll get that in practice at AZ with bigs Kaleb Tarczewski (RSCI #7), Grant Jerrett (RSCI #11), Brandon Ashley (RSCI #15), returnees 7'0 Kyryl Natyazhko (RSCI #59 in 2009) and Angelo Chol (RSCI #59 in 2011).
Wow - we're sweating out getting ANY true big to come to the Big Apple, and they're REDSHIRTING this kid behind FIVE former top 60 Bigs in frikkin TUCSON.
In terms of RSCI players, Arizona is top five in the country after this absurd haul.
And UCLA has #1 Shabazz, #3 Kyle, #18 Josh Smith, #24Tony Parker, #37 David Wear, #38 Travis Wear, #39 Tyler Lamb,#44 Larry Drew, #53 Norm Powell, and #59 Jordan Adams.
So how in the world does the Pac 12 SUCK so badly??????
Cr, IMO UCLA still recruited too many big and slow players. Lots of high ranked kids on paper, half of whom are plodders. Who is going to penetrate or run the court? Ucla looked slow and tired vs a 6-man SJU team last year. Now ucla adds 3 more talented but slow guys in Anderson, Adams and Parker. Like I said, all rated well but all plodders. I know Howland runs a half-court style but he still has too many of the same types of players on the team IMO.
Hopefully guys like Larry Drew and Shabazz help that a bit, but the team still a melange of different styles of players.
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Congrats to Orlando. He graduated today.
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I heard Orlando is taking summer classes, so I guess he's not with DR. He is listed on FIBA roster...can't find any news on the web.
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Interesting to note that John Calipari cut Charlie Villaneuva from the Dominican Republic team. Orlando is still listed on the roster per wikipedia. It should be a great experience for him to match up with pros in practice each day.
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The summer classes and playing with his new teammates this summer is more important IMO....
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Orlando checks in at no. 4 on Brad Winton's top 100 JUCO players for 2012:
http://www.jucorecruiting.com/?page_id=434 (http://www.jucorecruiting.com/?page_id=434)
Marco came in #49. Two top 50s. Not bad.
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Orlando checks in at no. 4 on Brad Winton's top 100 JUCO players for 2012:
http://www.jucorecruiting.com/?page_id=434 (http://www.jucorecruiting.com/?page_id=434)
Marco came in #49. Two top 50s. Not bad.
+1
I remember reading somewhere that Marco only recently has been playing up to the level he had been prior to suffering a significant injury, so I think his ranking could have been even higher if a siginificant portion of his tenure in junior college wasn't spent rehabing. Either way, very glad to have him and Orlando.
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I really think Orlando is going to be a bigger impact player then most people think.
I really see Jakarr, DLo & Orlando being our big 3 next year.
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I really think Orlando is going to be a bigger impact player then most people think.
I really see Jakarr, DLo & Orlando being our big 3 next year.
Agree, and with branch we have a pg
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Our talent is so strong all the way around. My gut tells me that Pointer is going to emerge next year as an absolute beast also.
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Our talent is so strong all the way around. My gut tells me that Pointer is going to emerge next year as an absolute beast also.
I agree Dom could have a breakout year
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“@TimBontemps: For St. John's fans: Sachez looks awfully intruiguing. Impressive athlete. Living up to the bill of goods sold to me by @NYPost_Brazille ...”
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“@TimBontemps: For St. John's fans: Sachez looks awfully intruiguing. Impressive athlete. Living up to the bill of goods sold to me by @NYPost_Brazille ...”
Where did he see Sanchez?
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“@TimBontemps: For St. John's fans: Sachez looks awfully intruiguing. Impressive athlete. Living up to the bill of goods sold to me by @NYPost_Brazille ...”
Where did he see Sanchez?
Could not figure that out from tweets, appears he was playing w Marshon Brooks and some pros?
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“@TimBontemps: For St. John's fans: Sachez looks awfully intruiguing. Impressive athlete. Living up to the bill of goods sold to me by @NYPost_Brazille ...”
Where did he see Sanchez?
Nike Pro City Tourney. Info provided by my main man, Moose!
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“@TimBontemps: For St. John's fans: Sachez looks awfully intruiguing. Impressive athlete. Living up to the bill of goods sold to me by @NYPost_Brazille ...”
Where did he see Sanchez?
Nike Pro City Tourney. Info provided by my main man, Moose!
You mean he didn't enter the witness protection program? Can't believe Moose isn't commenting on the Dunlap job search.
I know you're out there and you have opinions your dieing to share ... ;)
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“@TheoRabinowitz: RT @TheBBallDiary: Orlando sanchez of #stjbb stats at nike pro city 3/5 8pts 7 reb 1 dime 3 blocks 2 steal 19min”
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“@TheoRabinowitz: RT @TheBBallDiary: Orlando sanchez of #stjbb stats at nike pro city 3/5 8pts 7 reb 1 dime 3 blocks 2 steal 19min”
First of 4 videos of this game from Pro City. Orlando is 24 in Orange.
1 | Uptowners Vs Dyckman / New York Athletic Club (NYAC) | 2012 NIKE PRO CITY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Btj3iAqbBZo#ws)
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“@TheoRabinowitz: RT @TheBBallDiary: Orlando sanchez of #stjbb stats at nike pro city 3/5 8pts 7 reb 1 dime 3 blocks 2 steal 19min”
First of 4 videos of this game from Pro City. Orlando is 24 in Orange.
1 | Uptowners Vs Dyckman / New York Athletic Club (NYAC) | 2012 NIKE PRO CITY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Btj3iAqbBZo#ws)
enters the game 15 minutes in
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he's fast. nice agility for his height.
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he's fast. nice agility for his height.
I'm ready to see some of his games where he gets more burn. Not sure why he only played a few minutes in this one.
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Oh man Marshon is still such a hog.
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he's fast. nice agility for his height.
I'm ready to see some of his games where he gets more burn. Not sure why he only played a few minutes in this one.
Pro City is four 12 minute quarters. So he played 40% of the game. Its summer ball and the teams are pretty deep. With a lot of older more experienced players as well. 40% of the game is fine IMO.
That team plays at Pro City all summer. Its free and a great time. I went last night and had an awesome time. How many times can you go for free and see Kyrie Irving, Charlie V, Yadda Gaines, Burrell, Horne and then some old names that might ring a bell like Delroy James (URI), Vern Goodridge, Gary Ervin, Will Harris all in one game. Plus Kiki Clark in the first game absolutely light it up like he was at St. Peter's all over again. And Devin Ebanks.
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he's fast. nice agility for his height.
I'm ready to see some of his games where he gets more burn. Not sure why he only played a few minutes in this one.
Pro City is four 12 minute quarters. So he played 40% of the game. Its summer ball and the teams are pretty deep. With a lot of older more experienced players as well. 40% of the game is fine IMO.
That team plays at Pro City all summer. Its free and a great time. I went last night and had an awesome time. How many times can you go for free and see Kyrie Irving, Charlie V, Yadda Gaines, Burrell, Horne and then some old names that might ring a bell like Delroy James (URI), Vern Goodridge, Gary Ervin, Will Harris all in one game. Plus Kiki Clark in the first game absolutely light it up like he was at St. Peter's all over again. And Devin Ebanks.
Yeah I think I only watched part of the game by accident.
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he's fast. nice agility for his height.
I'm ready to see some of his games where he gets more burn. Not sure why he only played a few minutes in this one.
Pro City is four 12 minute quarters. So he played 40% of the game. Its summer ball and the teams are pretty deep. With a lot of older more experienced players as well. 40% of the game is fine IMO.
That team plays at Pro City all summer. Its free and a great time. I went last night and had an awesome time. How many times can you go for free and see Kyrie Irving, Charlie V, Yadda Gaines, Burrell, Horne and then some old names that might ring a bell like Delroy James (URI), Vern Goodridge, Gary Ervin, Will Harris all in one game. Plus Kiki Clark in the first game absolutely light it up like he was at St. Peter's all over again. And Devin Ebanks.
In this game it looked like he only played for a few minutes. I have to watch again, but thought he came in late. Maybe I didn't watch the whole thing?
That video I posted was the first quarter. There are 3 more videos one for each quarter. Didn't want to flood the thread with 4 big videos.
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he's fast. nice agility for his height.
I'm ready to see some of his games where he gets more burn. Not sure why he only played a few minutes in this one.
Pro City is four 12 minute quarters. So he played 40% of the game. Its summer ball and the teams are pretty deep. With a lot of older more experienced players as well. 40% of the game is fine IMO.
That team plays at Pro City all summer. Its free and a great time. I went last night and had an awesome time. How many times can you go for free and see Kyrie Irving, Charlie V, Yadda Gaines, Burrell, Horne and then some old names that might ring a bell like Delroy James (URI), Vern Goodridge, Gary Ervin, Will Harris all in one game. Plus Kiki Clark in the first game absolutely light it up like he was at St. Peter's all over again. And Devin Ebanks.
In this game it looked like he only played for a few minutes. I have to watch again, but thought he came in late. Maybe I didn't watch the whole thing?
That video I posted was the first quarter. There are 3 more videos one for each quarter. Didn't want to flood the thread with 4 big videos.
Sanchez has a lot of tools and fantastic speed for a guy 6'9". He scored a bit, blocked shots but his quick passing as well as his vertical rebounding ability caught my eye. He even made a 3. He's no slouch, that is for sure. With some college coaching he can really help us. Liked what I saw though. Not many PF's as fast as Orlando.
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he's fast. nice agility for his height.
I'm ready to see some of his games where he gets more burn. Not sure why he only played a few minutes in this one.
Pro City is four 12 minute quarters. So he played 40% of the game. Its summer ball and the teams are pretty deep. With a lot of older more experienced players as well. 40% of the game is fine IMO.
That team plays at Pro City all summer. Its free and a great time. I went last night and had an awesome time. How many times can you go for free and see Kyrie Irving, Charlie V, Yadda Gaines, Burrell, Horne and then some old names that might ring a bell like Delroy James (URI), Vern Goodridge, Gary Ervin, Will Harris all in one game. Plus Kiki Clark in the first game absolutely light it up like he was at St. Peter's all over again. And Devin Ebanks.
In this game it looked like he only played for a few minutes. I have to watch again, but thought he came in late. Maybe I didn't watch the whole thing?
That video I posted was the first quarter. There are 3 more videos one for each quarter. Didn't want to flood the thread with 4 big videos.
Sanchez has a lot of tools and fantastic speed for a guy 6'9". He scored a bit, blocked shots but his quick passing as well as his vertical rebounding ability caught my eye. He even made a 3. He's no slouch, that is for sure. With some college coaching he can really help us. Liked what I saw though. Not many PF's as fast as Orlando.
Def runs the court great, my thing was he looked more 6'7 than 6'9. Tyler Harris def had a inch and some change on him
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he's fast. nice agility for his height.
I'm ready to see some of his games where he gets more burn. Not sure why he only played a few minutes in this one.
Pro City is four 12 minute quarters. So he played 40% of the game. Its summer ball and the teams are pretty deep. With a lot of older more experienced players as well. 40% of the game is fine IMO.
That team plays at Pro City all summer. Its free and a great time. I went last night and had an awesome time. How many times can you go for free and see Kyrie Irving, Charlie V, Yadda Gaines, Burrell, Horne and then some old names that might ring a bell like Delroy James (URI), Vern Goodridge, Gary Ervin, Will Harris all in one game. Plus Kiki Clark in the first game absolutely light it up like he was at St. Peter's all over again. And Devin Ebanks.
In this game it looked like he only played for a few minutes. I have to watch again, but thought he came in late. Maybe I didn't watch the whole thing?
That video I posted was the first quarter. There are 3 more videos one for each quarter. Didn't want to flood the thread with 4 big videos.
Sanchez has a lot of tools and fantastic speed for a guy 6'9". He scored a bit, blocked shots but his quick passing as well as his vertical rebounding ability caught my eye. He even made a 3. He's no slouch, that is for sure. With some college coaching he can really help us. Liked what I saw though. Not many PF's as fast as Orlando.
Def runs the court great, my thing was he looked more 6'7 than 6'9. Tyler Harris def had a inch and some change on him
Harris is legit 6'9 now, so 6'8 or so may be right. Funny you mentioned it, because Harris tweeted today he is that height in socks.
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he's fast. nice agility for his height.
I'm ready to see some of his games where he gets more burn. Not sure why he only played a few minutes in this one.
Pro City is four 12 minute quarters. So he played 40% of the game. Its summer ball and the teams are pretty deep. With a lot of older more experienced players as well. 40% of the game is fine IMO.
That team plays at Pro City all summer. Its free and a great time. I went last night and had an awesome time. How many times can you go for free and see Kyrie Irving, Charlie V, Yadda Gaines, Burrell, Horne and then some old names that might ring a bell like Delroy James (URI), Vern Goodridge, Gary Ervin, Will Harris all in one game. Plus Kiki Clark in the first game absolutely light it up like he was at St. Peter's all over again. And Devin Ebanks.
In this game it looked like he only played for a few minutes. I have to watch again, but thought he came in late. Maybe I didn't watch the whole thing?
That video I posted was the first quarter. There are 3 more videos one for each quarter. Didn't want to flood the thread with 4 big videos.
Sanchez has a lot of tools and fantastic speed for a guy 6'9". He scored a bit, blocked shots but his quick passing as well as his vertical rebounding ability caught my eye. He even made a 3. He's no slouch, that is for sure. With some college coaching he can really help us. Liked what I saw though. Not many PF's as fast as Orlando.
Def runs the court great, my thing was he looked more 6'7 than 6'9. Tyler Harris def had a inch and some change on him
Harris is legit 6'9 now, so 6'8 or so may be right. Funny you mentioned it, because Harris tweeted today he is that height in socks.
That Puts me at ease, but wow he has his brother by 2 full inches if that's the case
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he's fast. nice agility for his height.
I'm ready to see some of his games where he gets more burn. Not sure why he only played a few minutes in this one.
Pro City is four 12 minute quarters. So he played 40% of the game. Its summer ball and the teams are pretty deep. With a lot of older more experienced players as well. 40% of the game is fine IMO.
That team plays at Pro City all summer. Its free and a great time. I went last night and had an awesome time. How many times can you go for free and see Kyrie Irving, Charlie V, Yadda Gaines, Burrell, Horne and then some old names that might ring a bell like Delroy James (URI), Vern Goodridge, Gary Ervin, Will Harris all in one game. Plus Kiki Clark in the first game absolutely light it up like he was at St. Peter's all over again. And Devin Ebanks.
In this game it looked like he only played for a few minutes. I have to watch again, but thought he came in late. Maybe I didn't watch the whole thing?
That video I posted was the first quarter. There are 3 more videos one for each quarter. Didn't want to flood the thread with 4 big videos.
Sanchez has a lot of tools and fantastic speed for a guy 6'9". He scored a bit, blocked shots but his quick passing as well as his vertical rebounding ability caught my eye. He even made a 3. He's no slouch, that is for sure. With some college coaching he can really help us. Liked what I saw though. Not many PF's as fast as Orlando.
Def runs the court great, my thing was he looked more 6'7 than 6'9. Tyler Harris def had a inch and some change on him
Harris is legit 6'9 now, so 6'8 or so may be right. Funny you mentioned it, because Harris tweeted today he is that height in socks.
That Puts me at ease, but wow he has his brother by 2 full inches if that's the case
Chille,
“@TylerHarris34: 6'9 with no shoes on I think I grow some more!”
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Tyler Harris a lot taller than before. Orlando an inch or so shorter, but Harris probably at least 6'10 with shoes. Orlando somewhere 6'8" to 6'9" I think. Regardless, he runs circles around Tyler Harris.
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His foot speed for a big is really something. He has an extra gear running in the full court. I'd bet he is a pretty impressive track kid as well. The two blocks I saw were on his man after they dribbled too long--he will get a lot more from the weak side in the zone. Impressive tenacity on his box outs...explosive kid that can get low comfortably in the trenches and playing d away from the basket.Switched on d a bunch of times and shows exceptional recovery ability. Hell have no problem rotating in the zone. He is just made for what Dunlap wanted to do here.
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His foot speed for a big is really something. He has an extra gear running in the full court. I'd bet he is a pretty impressive track kid as well. The two blocks I saw were on his man after they dribbled too long--he will get a lot more from the weak side in the zone. Impressive tenacity on his box outs...explosive kid that can get low comfortably in the trenches and playing d away from the basket.Switched on d a bunch of times and shows exceptional recovery ability. Hell have no problem rotating in the zone. He is just made for what Dunlap wanted to do here.
Just so folks know, what Mike did here was pretty much what Steve did at UCLA (including designing the defense for the 1995 National Championship team). Altho Bruin fans interpreted multiple defenses as a sign Lavin didn't know how to coach, and that he was too stupid to make up his mind on a singe defense :) One of the reason's Mike was hired was because he's an expert on the defense Steve wanted to run. I don't expect any kind of a major change in the defensive strategy, even with Mike gone.
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q“@TheBBallDiary: Orlando sanchez have awesone passing skills for real.”
“@TheBBallDiary: Orlando sanchez just blocked scotty hopson. Came runing down with a fancy pass but mate couldnt hold sanchez pass”
At Nike Pro City tonite. Having seen Orlando a few times, I am really impressed by his passing ability. His well rounded all around game will be a real plus this year?
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"@TheBBallDiary Ron artest making his nyc summer debut at nike pro city." It looks like St. John's is well represented over there. I wonder if Metta will give Orlando any pointers lol
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"@TheBBallDiary Ron artest making his nyc summer debut at nike pro city." It looks like St. John's is well represented over there. I wonder if Metta will give Orlando any pointers lol
Hopefully no suggestions about professional conduct and playing with composure. Lol
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Brief article on Orlando. He notes intensity of staff contact as a positive in his recruitment. In addition to Lav, we are very fortunate to have Coach Chiles!
http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/high_school/more_sports/nike_pro_city_notebook_st_jqohn_commit_ZCdJieClMij00xX2H3RkfO (http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/high_school/more_sports/nike_pro_city_notebook_st_jqohn_commit_ZCdJieClMij00xX2H3RkfO)
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He had a couple of nice blocks yesterday and he is a very good passer in the lane. He runs the floor very well too. Our guards will have a lot of options running a fast break because it looks like our 2-4's can all run with the best of them and finish stong.
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He had a couple of nice blocks yesterday and he is a very good passer in the lane. He runs the floor very well too. Our guards will have a lot of options running a fast break because it looks like our 2-4's can all run with the best of them and finish stong.
Thanks
Gotta catch his next Pro City game.
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He had a couple of nice blocks yesterday and he is a very good passer in the lane. He runs the floor very well too. Our guards will have a lot of options running a fast break because it looks like our 2-4's can all run with the best of them and finish stong.
Not just 2-4's John. Obekpa and Gift can run as well. Should be lots of fun.
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http://www.thebasketballdiary.com/2012/06/2012-nike-pro-city-schedule-at-baruch.html (http://www.thebasketballdiary.com/2012/06/2012-nike-pro-city-schedule-at-baruch.html)
He plays for Dyckman/NYAC.
The Basketball Diary has been posting the games on youtube.
http://www.youtube.com/user/TheBasketballDiary?feature=g-user-u (http://www.youtube.com/user/TheBasketballDiary?feature=g-user-u)
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http://www.thebasketballdiary.com/2012/06/2012-nike-pro-city-schedule-at-baruch.html (http://www.thebasketballdiary.com/2012/06/2012-nike-pro-city-schedule-at-baruch.html)
He plays for Dyckman/NYAC.
The Basketball Diary has been posting the games on youtube.
http://www.youtube.com/user/TheBasketballDiary?feature=g-user-u (http://www.youtube.com/user/TheBasketballDiary?feature=g-user-u)
Yeah I went last week the night Kyrie played. Just have to work around the schedule. Its a great time. And another great avenue for basketball in NYC all summer with Dyckman, Rucker and Hoops in the Sun.
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http://www.thebasketballdiary.com/2012/06/2012-nike-pro-city-schedule-at-baruch.html (http://www.thebasketballdiary.com/2012/06/2012-nike-pro-city-schedule-at-baruch.html)
He plays for Dyckman/NYAC.
The Basketball Diary has been posting the games on youtube.
http://www.youtube.com/user/TheBasketballDiary?feature=g-user-u (http://www.youtube.com/user/TheBasketballDiary?feature=g-user-u)
Yeah I went last week the night Kyrie played. Just have to work around the schedule. Its a great time. And another great avenue for basketball in NYC all summer with Dyckman, Rucker and Hoops in the Sun.
Just got back In town herd Kyrie had 46 last week and Orlando is a 3pt shooter?!?? Any truth to these assessments?
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http://www.thebasketballdiary.com/2012/06/2012-nike-pro-city-schedule-at-baruch.html (http://www.thebasketballdiary.com/2012/06/2012-nike-pro-city-schedule-at-baruch.html)
He plays for Dyckman/NYAC.
The Basketball Diary has been posting the games on youtube.
http://www.youtube.com/user/TheBasketballDiary?feature=g-user-u (http://www.youtube.com/user/TheBasketballDiary?feature=g-user-u)
Yeah I went last week the night Kyrie played. Just have to work around the schedule. Its a great time. And another great avenue for basketball in NYC all summer with Dyckman, Rucker and Hoops in the Sun.
Just got back In town herd Kyrie had 46 last week and Orlando is a 3pt shooter?!?? Any truth to these assessments?
Kyrie did have some ungodly #. I think it might have been 50 plus.
Orlando has a pretty smooth form shot. I don't think its a part of his game but can keep a defense honest.
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http://www.thebasketballdiary.com/2012/06/2012-nike-pro-city-schedule-at-baruch.html (http://www.thebasketballdiary.com/2012/06/2012-nike-pro-city-schedule-at-baruch.html)
He plays for Dyckman/NYAC.
The Basketball Diary has been posting the games on youtube.
http://www.youtube.com/user/TheBasketballDiary?feature=g-user-u (http://www.youtube.com/user/TheBasketballDiary?feature=g-user-u)
Yeah I went last week the night Kyrie played. Just have to work around the schedule. Its a great time. And another great avenue for basketball in NYC all summer with Dyckman, Rucker and Hoops in the Sun.
Just got back In town herd Kyrie had 46 last week and Orlando is a 3pt shooter?!?? Any truth to these assessments?
Kyrie did have some ungodly #. I think it might have been 50 plus.
Orlando has a pretty smooth form shot. I don't think its a part of his game but can keep a defense honest.
Kyrie is a stud, nice to hear, I saw a clip of a game but the connection was so bad in my hotel all I saw was Tyler Harris towering over Sanchez, than I was relieved once I found out Harris is on his way to be 6'11
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http://www.thebasketballdiary.com/2012/06/2012-nike-pro-city-schedule-at-baruch.html (http://www.thebasketballdiary.com/2012/06/2012-nike-pro-city-schedule-at-baruch.html)
He plays for Dyckman/NYAC.
The Basketball Diary has been posting the games on youtube.
http://www.youtube.com/user/TheBasketballDiary?feature=g-user-u (http://www.youtube.com/user/TheBasketballDiary?feature=g-user-u)
Yeah I went last week the night Kyrie played. Just have to work around the schedule. Its a great time. And another great avenue for basketball in NYC all summer with Dyckman, Rucker and Hoops in the Sun.
Just got back In town herd Kyrie had 46 last week and Orlando is a 3pt shooter?!?? Any truth to these assessments?
Kyrie did have some ungodly #. I think it might have been 50 plus.
Orlando has a pretty smooth form shot. I don't think its a part of his game but can keep a defense honest.
Kyrie is a stud, nice to hear, I saw a clip of a game but the connection was so bad in my hotel all I saw was Tyler Harris towering over Sanchez, than I was relieved once I found out Harris is on his way to be 6'11
Separate days but yea last night was Orlando's 2nd game. Kyrie's team I guess played last night but he didn't play. I know he's still in NY because a buddy of mine saw him yesterday. Pro City was a good time.
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"@TheBBallDiary Ron artest making his nyc summer debut at nike pro city." It looks like St. John's is well represented over there. I wonder if Metta will give Orlando any pointers lol
OT for the thread, but since Metta is mentioned here....
Trade rumor going around, that seems to have legs: Metta World Peace and Pau Gasol to the Wizards for Andray Blatche, Trevor Ariza and Washington's #3 pick tomorrow nite.....
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"@TheBBallDiary Ron artest making his nyc summer debut at nike pro city." It looks like St. John's is well represented over there. I wonder if Metta will give Orlando any pointers lol
OT for the thread, but since Metta is mentioned here....
Trade rumor going around, that seems to have legs: Metta World Peace and Pau Gasol to the Wizards for Andray Blatche, Trevor Ariza and Washington's #3 pick tomorrow nite.....
Thomas Robinson that coveted ?
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"@TheBBallDiary Ron artest making his nyc summer debut at nike pro city." It looks like St. John's is well represented over there. I wonder if Metta will give Orlando any pointers lol
OT for the thread, but since Metta is mentioned here....
Trade rumor going around, that seems to have legs: Metta World Peace and Pau Gasol to the Wizards for Andray Blatche, Trevor Ariza and Washington's #3 pick tomorrow nite.....
Thomas Robinson that coveted ?
Its extremely OT even though Metta is mentioned here because now this can run so many ways. Really interesting to see the 2 and the 3 and even the 4 now mentioned as dangling trade bait. Then you have the Warriors at 7 also dangling. And then teams with multiple picks like HOU and BOS lurking. Never have I seen this much pre draft trade rumblings.
Back to Chille's point if a team's guy is or isn't there the draft can go in so many directions.
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What happened to Sanchez playing the Dominican team? Was he cut?
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I think the Dominican team was knocked out in qualifying round.
Have no idea if he played any.
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Was not on team, don't know why.
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Was not on team, don't know why.
Obviously Calipari not giving Lavin any additioal Dominican recruiting momentum. "Sign with Lavin, don't make the Dominican Team". j
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I thought it was reported that Orlando wanted time with his family before school started, insteaed of playing ball with the DR team.
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I thought it was reported that Orlando wanted time with his family before school started, insteaed of playing ball with the DR team.
I really hope that's not true.
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Would also understand if he did it to spite Cal (for no Kentucky offer) :tickedoff:
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He is soooooooo nice. I didn't know he was this good
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He is soooooooo nice. I didn't know he was this good
Best player on team
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He is soooooooo nice. I didn't know he was this good
What specifically impressed you?
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His jump shot. He lost weight he pushes the ball on the break and can pass the hell out the rock. He is a pro
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Nah Marco dangelo is the best player right now. He is looking like a problem
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Nah Marco dangelo is the best player right now. He is looking like a problem
Gonna be tough to keep Amir from starting over Newbies.
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Great to hear that Orlando and D'Angelo are looking great. Just wondering, when and where did you see these guys in action? Was there an open workout on campus? Was there anyone else who caught your eye? Thanks in advance for the info. Looking forward to a fun year.
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Yeah, but as good as he is, without Moe we're going to be lucky to win 13 games again ::)
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I loved Moe, always will and he will be the guy that we look back on and say his choice to play at SJU pointed us in the right direction. However if i'm given a choice of Moe for one more year or the class that we have now along side the returning players i'm going to have to go with the depth and talent total over one player, which in my mind should equal more wins.
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I loved Moe, always will and he will be the guy that we look back on and say his choice to play at SJU pointed us in the right direction. However if i'm given a choice of Moe for one more year or the class that we have now along side the returning players i'm going to have to go with the depth and talent total over one player, which in my mind should equal more wins.
+1 several times
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I loved Moe, always will and he will be the guy that we look back on and say his choice to play at SJU pointed us in the right direction. However if i'm given a choice of Moe for one more year or the class that we have now along side the returning players i'm going to have to go with the depth and talent total over one player, which in my mind should equal more wins.
Why couldn't we have had Moe and the incoming class minus Jones? Now that'd be a sure fire NCAA team.
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I loved Moe, always will and he will be the guy that we look back on and say his choice to play at SJU pointed us in the right direction. However if i'm given a choice of Moe for one more year or the class that we have now along side the returning players i'm going to have to go with the depth and talent total over one player, which in my mind should equal more wins.
Why couldn't we have had Moe and the incoming class minus Jones? Now that'd be a sure fire NCAA team.
That team would've been scary good. But it could've made other recruits hesitant to commit. Jakarr for example.
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I loved Moe, always will and he will be the guy that we look back on and say his choice to play at SJU pointed us in the right direction. However if i'm given a choice of Moe for one more year or the class that we have now along side the returning players i'm going to have to go with the depth and talent total over one player, which in my mind should equal more wins.
Why couldn't we have had Moe and the incoming class minus Jones? Now that'd be a sure fire NCAA team.
That team would've been scary good. But it could've made other recruits hesitant to commit. Jakarr for example.
I think Orlando was less likely to come.
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“@JonRothstein: St. John's F Orlando Sanchez making an early impression in Queens w his versatility. Really skilled. Should start for Red Storm at PF.”
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“@JonRothstein: St. John's F Orlando Sanchez making an early impression in Queens w his versatility. Really skilled. Should start for Red Storm at PF.”
.........@JohnRotstein: I love reading STJ fan boards so I can regurgitate what they say...........
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“@JonRothstein: St. John's F Orlando Sanchez making an early impression in Queens w his versatility. Really skilled. Should start for Red Storm at PF.”
.........@JohnRotstein: I love reading STJ fan boards so I can regurgitate what they say...........
"So much Gregg Doyel in Moose"
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He is soooooooo nice. I didn't know he was this good
Told you ALL how good this kid is. Keeping to my word that this kid is a pro!
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He is soooooooo nice. I didn't know he was this good
Told you ALL how good this kid is. Keeping to my word that this kid is a pro!
Before we start talking pros, can we talk college? What kind of college player will he be?
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He is soooooooo nice. I didn't know he was this good
Told you ALL how good this kid is. Keeping to my word that this kid is a pro!
Before we start talking pros, can we talk college? What kind of college player will he be?
One good enough to become a pro :)
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Well, it is promising that at the PF spot, we are replacing Harkless with Orlando. Orlando is taller than Harkless and just as nimble and athletic if not more so. Orlando from what I've seen is a better passer. If he can learn to defer a little bit less and go to his offense more, he seems to have the tools to do similar types of things on the court. Harkless wasn't nearly as dominant before arriving at SJU either. He always had the tools, but wasnt an aggressive scorer the way he became after a few games and coaching at SJU.
I wouldn't go by Orlando's JC offensive numbers as a harbinger for what he'll do here. Some guys just need a push to find their niche and become more aggressive in certain areas. Orlando seems to have that potential. If he's that good this year, then we'll be difficult to stop as a team with all of our other pieces.
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Orlando from what I've seen is a better passer.
What exactly have you seen..? How many times have you actually seen him play..?
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Orlando from what I've seen is a better passer.
What exactly have you seen..? How many times have you actually seen him play..?
3. Harkless wasnt a phenomenal passer. Orlando made some amazing passes even in those pro city games. Why the inquisition? I said "from what I've seen".
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Who would you compare Orlando to?
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Why the inquisition? I said "from what I've seen".
Inquisition..? Getting a little defensive aren't we..?
I asked a question... how many times I have you seen Orlando Sanchez to play to make any type of judgement call on his game..? For all I know you could have been to 5 Monroe CC games last season...
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Who would you compare Orlando to?
Give me a taller Brownlee and we are cooking!
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Brownlee and Moe could both shoot. I've only seen 3 of Orlando's games, and they were online, but I didn't see that kind of midrange game from him.
He seems like a very good player, but I think the expectations for him seemingly got higher and higher as the summer went on, without any additional game footage or scouting info.
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Brownlee and Moe could both shoot. I've only seen 3 of Orlando's games, and they were online, but I didn't see that kind of midrange game from him.
He seems like a very good player, but I think the expectations for him seemingly got higher and higher as the summer went on, without any additional game footage or scouting info.
There was a video of him shooting (yes unguarded and practicing) from 3 point land and he was hitting them at a pretty good return. (People did bitch that his shot was flat. Love all the basketball experts :) ) Can't find the video but it was posted during his recruitment.
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Brownlee and Moe could both shoot. I've only seen 3 of Orlando's games, and they were online, but I didn't see that kind of midrange game from him.
He seems like a very good player, but I think the expectations for him seemingly got higher and higher as the summer went on, without any additional game footage or scouting info.
There was a video of him shooting (yes unguarded and practicing) from 3 point land and he was hitting them at a pretty good return. (People did bitch that his shot was flat. Love all the basketball experts :) ) Can't find the video but it was posted during his recruitment.
We also saw a video of Lindsey last summer where he was unguarded and bombing away from the perimeter. ;)
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Brownlee and Moe could both shoot. I've only seen 3 of Orlando's games, and they were online, but I didn't see that kind of midrange game from him.
He seems like a very good player, but I think the expectations for him seemingly got higher and higher as the summer went on, without any additional game footage or scouting info.
There was a video of him shooting (yes unguarded and practicing) from 3 point land and he was hitting them at a pretty good return. (People did bitch that his shot was flat. Love all the basketball experts :) ) Can't find the video but it was posted during his recruitment.
We also saw a video of Lindsey last summer where he was unguarded and bombing away from the perimeter. ;)
I recall the Nuri videos but he missed a great deal of them ;)
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Brownlee and Moe could both shoot. I've only seen 3 of Orlando's games, and they were online, but I didn't see that kind of midrange game from him.
He seems like a very good player, but I think the expectations for him seemingly got higher and higher as the summer went on, without any additional game footage or scouting info.
There was a video of him shooting (yes unguarded and practicing) from 3 point land and he was hitting them at a pretty good return. (People did bitch that his shot was flat. Love all the basketball experts :) ) Can't find the video but it was posted during his recruitment.
We also saw a video of Lindsey last summer where he was unguarded and bombing away from the perimeter. ;)
I recall the Nuri videos but he missed a great deal of them ;)
If my memory serves me correct I actually remember him hitting 10+ jumpers in a row. Maybe not from 3 land though
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Brownlee and Moe could both shoot. I've only seen 3 of Orlando's games, and they were online, but I didn't see that kind of midrange game from him.
He seems like a very good player, but I think the expectations for him seemingly got higher and higher as the summer went on, without any additional game footage or scouting info.
There was a video of him shooting (yes unguarded and practicing) from 3 point land and he was hitting them at a pretty good return. (People did bitch that his shot was flat. Love all the basketball experts :) ) Can't find the video but it was posted during his recruitment.
Fair enough, maybe he does have a decent shot. I'm not trying to knock Orlando, I just get the sense that expectations for him are skyrocketing lately. (conversely, I think some of our fans are sleeping on Jakarr).
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Brownlee and Moe could both shoot. I've only seen 3 of Orlando's games, and they were online, but I didn't see that kind of midrange game from him.
He seems like a very good player, but I think the expectations for him seemingly got higher and higher as the summer went on, without any additional game footage or scouting info.
There was a video of him shooting (yes unguarded and practicing) from 3 point land and he was hitting them at a pretty good return. (People did bitch that his shot was flat. Love all the basketball experts :) ) Can't find the video but it was posted during his recruitment.
Fair enough, maybe he does have a decent shot. I'm not trying to knock Orlando, I just get the sense that expectations for him are skyrocketing lately. (conversely, I think some of our fans are sleeping on Jakarr).
Well Orlando being 24 is why. He's more mature, filled out, etc....
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Brownlee and Moe could both shoot. I've only seen 3 of Orlando's games, and they were online, but I didn't see that kind of midrange game from him.
He seems like a very good player, but I think the expectations for him seemingly got higher and higher as the summer went on, without any additional game footage or scouting info.
There was a video of him shooting (yes unguarded and practicing) from 3 point land and he was hitting them at a pretty good return. (People did bitch that his shot was flat. Love all the basketball experts :) ) Can't find the video but it was posted during his recruitment.
We also saw a video of Lindsey last summer where he was unguarded and bombing away from the perimeter. ;)
I recall the Nuri videos but he missed a great deal of them ;)
If my memory serves me correct I actually remember him hitting 10+ jumpers in a row. Maybe not from 3 land though
Mostly inside the arc. Memories :)
Nurideen Lindsey working out (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37edtcDy1rE#)
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That video is all the proof I ever need not to take a practice video too seriously.
The guy literally couldn't hit a single jump shot while he was here.
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That video is all the proof I ever need not to take a practice video too seriously.
The guy literally couldn't hit a single jump shot while he was here.
Not to take this into Nuri land but he didn't take that many jumpers especially inside the arc. Outside the arc we know he was a disaster. Inside the arc was mostly layups and real close range stuff in traffic.
Plus Nuri was rusty with taking time off. This year he is gonna light it up :)
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That video is all the proof I ever need not to take a practice video too seriously.
The guy literally couldn't hit a single jump shot while he was here.
Our resident guru of Internet evals Marillac actually noted how bad Lindsey's shot looked in the video. He was right about it. Moe wasn't as effective as he was due to a phenomenal midrange nor outside game last season. His outside game didn't really start improving until seasons end. Don't think Orlando will have to light it up from outside to match Moe's numbers. Fwiw, I think Moe will be a very good outside shooter when all is said and done. His form has improved a ton.
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How about a video of him hitting a couple of free throws in a row?
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Who would you compare Orlando to?
Give me a taller Brownlee and we are cooking!
He's a bit like Brownlee in that he operates out of the high post and his build is (maybe WAS similar since Orlando has trimmed some weight) like Brownlee's. I think Orlando has a good amount more pro potential, though. When Orlando has his motor on, he's a bit more athletic and explosive than Brownlee and also one of the main differences is Orlando's passing ability. The consistency with which Orlando plays with his motor on will need to improve from JUCO to high major level, though. Orlando is probably going to end up being a better rebounder as well.
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Thank you
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Who would you compare Orlando to?
Give me a taller Brownlee and we are cooking!
He's a bit like Brownlee in that he operates out of the high post and his build is (maybe WAS similar since Orlando has trimmed some weight) like Brownlee's. I think Orlando has a good amount more pro potential, though. When Orlando has his motor on, he's a bit more athletic and explosive than Brownlee and also one of the main differences is Orlando's passing ability. The consistency with which Orlando plays with his motor on will need to improve from JUCO to high major level, though. Orlando is probably going to end up being a better rebounder as well.
Sounds like Reggie Jessie II
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Who would you compare Orlando to?
Give me a taller Brownlee and we are cooking!
He's a bit like Brownlee in that he operates out of the high post and his build is (maybe WAS similar since Orlando has trimmed some weight) like Brownlee's. I think Orlando has a good amount more pro potential, though. When Orlando has his motor on, he's a bit more athletic and explosive than Brownlee and also one of the main differences is Orlando's passing ability. The consistency with which Orlando plays with his motor on will need to improve from JUCO to high major level, though. Orlando is probably going to end up being a better rebounder as well.
Sounds like Reggie Jessie II
No offense to Reggie, but if the brother got an inch between the floor and his feet when he jump, well that was a hella lot.
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True, but Choz, all things considered, he played well at SJU. Passed very well. Not just for a big man, but for anyone. Remember that backwards over the head pass in the Umass game from 98?
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True, but Choz, all things considered, he played well at SJU. Passed very well. Not just for a big man, but for anyone. Remember that backwards over the head pass in the Umass game from 98?
No doubt. Reggie was proto-point forward, cerebral, deft passer, had a great handle for 6'7" and was money from 15' in. All I'm sayin is he was below avg athlete for the BE.
I know Orlando Sanchez will be a better athlete than Reggie. Whether he can do all those other things at the BE level remain to be seen.
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Who would you compare Orlando to?
Give me a taller Brownlee and we are cooking!
He's a bit like Brownlee in that he operates out of the high post and his build is (maybe WAS similar since Orlando has trimmed some weight) like Brownlee's. I think Orlando has a good amount more pro potential, though. When Orlando has his motor on, he's a bit more athletic and explosive than Brownlee and also one of the main differences is Orlando's passing ability. The consistency with which Orlando plays with his motor on will need to improve from JUCO to high major level, though. Orlando is probably going to end up being a better rebounder as well.
Thanks Theo. You've been high on Orlando from the beginning, I remember some of your scouting reports from early in the year. Very helpful.
How's his game offensively? I saw those Monroe playoff games, but most of his buckets were around the rim... how is he from 15 feet out? Can he be a solid pick and pop partner for D'angelo?
Brownlee and Hardy had that going nicely two years ago.
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“@Raczok: @NYPost_Brazille Is Orlando Sanchez a senior or Junior? Thx Zach”
“@NYPost_Brazille: @Raczok junior”
“@Raczok: @NYPost_Brazille Thanks, conflicting info. Lenn Robbins reported as a senior.”
Hopefully this implies he has two years of eligibility. Can SJU staff clarify?
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“@Raczok: @NYPost_Brazille Is Orlando Sanchez a senior or Junior? Thx Zach”
“@NYPost_Brazille: @Raczok junior”
“@Raczok: @NYPost_Brazille Thanks, conflicting info. Lenn Robbins reported as a senior.”
Hopefully this implies he has two years of eligibility. Can SJU staff clarify?
Still trying to figure out how he could have played JC ball last year if he already WAS a Junior (which being a SENIOR now would sorta indicate).
Wonder if he could have been enrolled at a college in the Dominican out of high school - Doesn't have to have played or even stayed, but how JC's view eligibility and how the NCAA counts the "clock" on a kid (5 years to play 4 years) may be involved. If that's the case, it might be a matter of having to appeal to the NCAA for an extra year - in past cases (usually involving injuries, illnes, family tradgedy, etc) I know you can't even file the appeal till after then nominal final season of eligibilty is over. One of Steve's last recruits, an invited Walkon named Janou Rubin ended up playing parts of SIX seasons for UCLA. He took two medical redshirts. He was already graduated, but stayed enrolled on his own dime in 2006 and waited the whole summer actually a month into the season before the NCAA finally ruled in his favor. Worth it? That was the year UCLA lost to Fla in the NCAA title game...
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“@Raczok: @NYPost_Brazille Is Orlando Sanchez a senior or Junior? Thx Zach”
“@NYPost_Brazille: @Raczok junior”
“@Raczok: @NYPost_Brazille Thanks, conflicting info. Lenn Robbins reported as a senior.”
Hopefully this implies he has two years of eligibility. Can SJU staff clarify?
Still trying to figure out how he could have played JC ball last year if he already WAS a Junior (which being a SENIOR now would sorta indicate).
Wonder if he could have been enrolled at a college in the Dominican out of high school - Doesn't have to have played or even stayed, but how JC's view eligibility and how the NCAA counts the "clock" on a kid (5 years to play 4 years) may be involved. If that's the case, it might be a matter of having to appeal to the NCAA for an extra year - in past cases (usually involving injuries, illnes, family tradgedy, etc) I know you can't even file the appeal till after then nominal final season of eligibilty is over. One of Steve's last recruits, an invited Walkon named Janou Rubin ended up playing parts of SIX seasons for UCLA. He took two medical redshirts. He was already graduated, but stayed enrolled on his own dime in 2006 and waited the whole summer actually a month into the season before the NCAA finally ruled in his favor. Worth it? That was the year UCLA lost to Fla in the NCAA title game...
You may be on point here CR. I really hope he is here for two years, because he is so multi talented and obviously physically mature.
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“@Raczok: @NYPost_Brazille Is Orlando Sanchez a senior or Junior? Thx Zach”
“@NYPost_Brazille: @Raczok junior”
“@Raczok: @NYPost_Brazille Thanks, conflicting info. Lenn Robbins reported as a senior.”
Hopefully this implies he has two years of eligibility. Can SJU staff clarify?
Ted pestering the media again. ; )
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There definitely seems to be something to this 1 year of playing eligibility for Orlando.
I am not terribly worried, he is definitely eligible this year and I think will be a terrific addition to the team. If he does not come back next year Coach will find a big time replacement.
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Why all the conjecture on Orlando's amount of eligibility? I would think someone in the St. John's Sports Information area would already have the answer to one or two years left. And if it is one year left, to explain the rationale.
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Why all the conjecture on Orlando's amount of eligibility? I would think someone in the St. John's Sports Information area would already have the answer to one or two years left. And if it is one year left, to explain the rationale.
It was stated on an STJ run broadcast of Midnight Madness by an STJ employee that he was a Sr. Then it was stated by beat writer Lenn Robbins (not that Lenn has never been wrong before).
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Why all the conjecture on Orlando's amount of eligibility? I would think someone in the St. John's Sports Information area would already have the answer to one or two years left. And if it is one year left, to explain the rationale.
I was told he has two years left. Let's hope that's true.
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http://www.redstormsports.com/sports/m-baskbl/mtt/stjo-m-baskbl-mtt.html (http://www.redstormsports.com/sports/m-baskbl/mtt/stjo-m-baskbl-mtt.html)
Official website has him as a junior.
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http://www.redstormsports.com/sports/m-baskbl/mtt/stjo-m-baskbl-mtt.html (http://www.redstormsports.com/sports/m-baskbl/mtt/stjo-m-baskbl-mtt.html)
Official website has him as a junior.
Good. I don't recall hearing about a juco that arrived as a senior. So this seems right.
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“@Raczok: @NYPost_Brazille Is Orlando Sanchez a senior or Junior? Thx Zach”
“@NYPost_Brazille: @Raczok junior”
“@Raczok: @NYPost_Brazille Thanks, conflicting info. Lenn Robbins reported as a senior.”
Hopefully this implies he has two years of eligibility. Can SJU staff clarify?
Ted pestering the media again. ; )
LOL, it's always possible that NCAA could rule on eligibility issues that don't necessarily follow the two years in Juco and 2 years at a 4 year college, especially for guys that come from outside the US.
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“@Raczok: @NYPost_Brazille Is Orlando Sanchez a senior or Junior? Thx Zach”
“@NYPost_Brazille: @Raczok junior”
“@Raczok: @NYPost_Brazille Thanks, conflicting info. Lenn Robbins reported as a senior.”
Hopefully this implies he has two years of eligibility. Can SJU staff clarify?
Ted pestering the media again. ; )
LOL, it's always possible that NCAA could rule on eligibility issues that don't necessarily follow the two years in Juco and 2 years at a 4 year college, especially for guys that come from outside the US.
That's correct. Academically he maybe a junior but that does not mean he has 2 years remaining of playing eligiblity. He very well may but listing him as a junior on the website does not necessarily solve this riddle.
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“@Raczok: @NYPost_Brazille Is Orlando Sanchez a senior or Junior? Thx Zach”
“@NYPost_Brazille: @Raczok junior”
“@Raczok: @NYPost_Brazille Thanks, conflicting info. Lenn Robbins reported as a senior.”
Hopefully this implies he has two years of eligibility. Can SJU staff clarify?
Ted pestering the media again. ; )
LOL, it's always possible that NCAA could rule on eligibility issues that don't necessarily follow the two years in Juco and 2 years at a 4 year college, especially for guys that come from outside the US.
That's correct. Academically he maybe a junior but that does not mean he has 2 years remaining of playing eligiblity. He very well may but listing him as a junior on the website does not necessarily solve this riddle.
Not to obsess over this, but what precludes someone from athletic administration clarifying this? Privacy issue? Appeal issue?
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“@Raczok: @NYPost_Brazille Is Orlando Sanchez a senior or Junior? Thx Zach”
“@NYPost_Brazille: @Raczok junior”
“@Raczok: @NYPost_Brazille Thanks, conflicting info. Lenn Robbins reported as a senior.”
Hopefully this implies he has two years of eligibility. Can SJU staff clarify?
Ted pestering the media again. ; )
LOL, it's always possible that NCAA could rule on eligibility issues that don't necessarily follow the two years in Juco and 2 years at a 4 year college, especially for guys that come from outside the US.
That's correct. Academically he maybe a junior but that does not mean he has 2 years remaining of playing eligiblity. He very well may but listing him as a junior on the website does not necessarily solve this riddle.
Not to obsess over this, but what precludes someone from athletic administration clarifying this? Privacy issue? Appeal issue?
Has anyone asked the admin?
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“@Raczok: @NYPost_Brazille Is Orlando Sanchez a senior or Junior? Thx Zach”
“@NYPost_Brazille: @Raczok junior”
“@Raczok: @NYPost_Brazille Thanks, conflicting info. Lenn Robbins reported as a senior.”
Hopefully this implies he has two years of eligibility. Can SJU staff clarify?
Ted pestering the media again. ; )
LOL, it's always possible that NCAA could rule on eligibility issues that don't necessarily follow the two years in Juco and 2 years at a 4 year college, especially for guys that come from outside the US.
That's correct. Academically he maybe a junior but that does not mean he has 2 years remaining of playing eligiblity. He very well may but listing him as a junior on the website does not necessarily solve this riddle.
Not to obsess over this, but what precludes someone from athletic administration clarifying this? Privacy issue? Appeal issue?
Has anyone asked the admin?
I asked their twitter site person, who indicated he would get back to me, but he never did. I will try the AD.
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Someone should ask him the last school he attended before Monroe. That will potentially clear up things real quick.
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This might be a personal issue. If he's a 25 year old junior, I'm sure there's a part of him that isn't thrilled about that.
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This might be a personal issue. If he's a 25 year old junior, I'm sure there's a part of him that isn't thrilled about that.
Which is why I think everyone should assume we'll get one year out of him and then be happy if we get a second.
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This might be a personal issue. If he's a 25 year old junior, I'm sure there's a part of him that isn't thrilled about that.
Which is why I think everyone should assume we'll get one year out of him and then be happy if we get a second.
One year is fine. No doubt here that Lavin will be able to find suitable replacement.
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This might be a personal issue. If he's a 25 year old junior, I'm sure there's a part of him that isn't thrilled about that.
Which is why I think everyone should assume we'll get one year out of him and then be happy if we get a second.
One year is fine. No doubt here that Lavin will be able to find suitable replacement.
I personally hate 1 years. :( I see folks posting that Jarkarr or Orlando should be able give us the equivalent of what Harkless gave us last year (who knows, if Lav's isn't blowing smoke, maybe Cjones does!). BUT THATS NOT THE POINT. They're likely NOT going to give us what a SOPHOMORE Harkless would have given us THIS year. Does anyone doubt a returning Mo would have been the likely BE POY in 2013?
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This might be a personal issue. If he's a 25 year old junior, I'm sure there's a part of him that isn't thrilled about that.
Which is why I think everyone should assume we'll get one year out of him and then be happy if we get a second.
One year is fine. No doubt here that Lavin will be able to find suitable replacement.
I personally hate 1 years. :( I see folks posting that Jarkarr or Orlando should be able give us the equivalent of what Harkless gave us last year (who knows, if Lav's isn't blowing smoke, maybe Cjones does!). BUT THATS NOT THE POINT. They're likely NOT going to give us what a SOPHOMORE Harkless would have given us THIS year. Does anyone doubt a returning Mo would have been the likely BE POY in 2013?
Agree But if it's a logistical thing, there's nothing we can do. I bet Sanchez has 2 years when all is said and done, unless he's good enough to go nba. If he goes NBA, it is ultimately great for Lavin's recruiting resume'.
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This might be a personal issue. If he's a 25 year old junior, I'm sure there's a part of him that isn't thrilled about that.
Which is why I think everyone should assume we'll get one year out of him and then be happy if we get a second.
One year is fine. No doubt here that Lavin will be able to find suitable replacement.
I personally hate 1 years. :( I see folks posting that Jarkarr or Orlando should be able give us the equivalent of what Harkless gave us last year (who knows, if Lav's isn't blowing smoke, maybe Cjones does!). BUT THATS NOT THE POINT. They're likely NOT going to give us what a SOPHOMORE Harkless would have given us THIS year. Does anyone doubt a returning Mo would have been the likely BE POY in 2013?
Agree But if it's a logistical thing, there's nothing we can do. I bet Sanchez has 2 years when all is said and done, unless he's good enough to go nba. If he goes NBA, it is ultimately great for Lavin's recruiting resume'.
I agree. It's just that as an old timer, I'm always torn by these situations. I get "recruiting resumes" and "perception of the program" based on post college accomplishments of players - that the quicker those accomplishments come, the better. I'm all for rooting for my favorite teams players when they reach the NBA. Hell, till the Roanoke Dazzle folded, I was a season ticket holder for the D-League - I rooted on Bruins and Hokies there. But when all is said and done, I'm a college hoops guy, and what players accomplish IN COLLEGE for their school and their team is what I respect most. What price is PAID for the 1 and done. Kevin Love was the top player in his class - now proving he's one of the best players in in the pros as well. UCLA got him for one year, and were rewarded with a Final Four appearance. But what if instead of the #1 recruit, they'd gone after and signed the #93 RSCI player that year. Another 6'10 kid - Markieff Morris. Who stayed three years in college. With the talent that was on UCLA, WITH that Post position intact for 2 additional years, there is no "drop off the precipice" as actually happpened. No Nikola Dragovic as your "go to guy".
There is no proper answer, no "right or wrong" when it comes to recruiting and signing these kind of players - that's just the nature of the beast today - you do what you can do under the rules to survive. But it still leaves me a bit sad.
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This might be a personal issue. If he's a 25 year old junior, I'm sure there's a part of him that isn't thrilled about that.
Which is why I think everyone should assume we'll get one year out of him and then be happy if we get a second.
One year is fine. No doubt here that Lavin will be able to find suitable replacement.
I personally hate 1 years. :( I see folks posting that Jarkarr or Orlando should be able give us the equivalent of what Harkless gave us last year (who knows, if Lav's isn't blowing smoke, maybe Cjones does!). BUT THATS NOT THE POINT. They're likely NOT going to give us what a SOPHOMORE Harkless would have given us THIS year. Does anyone doubt a returning Mo would have been the likely BE POY in 2013?
Agree But if it's a logistical thing, there's nothing we can do. I bet Sanchez has 2 years when all is said and done, unless he's good enough to go nba. If he goes NBA, it is ultimately great for Lavin's recruiting resume'.
I agree. It's just that as an old timer, I'm always torn by these situations. I get "recruiting resumes" and "perception of the program" based on post college accomplishments of players - that the quicker those accomplishments come, the better. I'm all for rooting for my favorite teams players when they reach the NBA. Hell, till the Roanoke Dazzle folded, I was a season ticket holder for the D-League - I rooted on Bruins and Hokies there. But when all is said and done, I'm a college hoops guy, and what players accomplish IN COLLEGE for their school and their team is what I respect most. What price is PAID for the 1 and done. Kevin Love was the top player in his class - now proving he's one of the best players in in the pros as well. UCLA got him for one year, and were rewarded with a Final Four appearance. But what if instead of the #1 recruit, they'd gone after and signed the #93 RSCI player that year. Another 6'10 kid - Markieff Morris. Who stayed three years in college. With the talent that was on UCLA, WITH that Post position intact for 2 additional years, there is no "drop off the precipice" as actually happpened. No Nikola Dragovic as your "go to guy".
There is no proper answer, no "right or wrong" when it comes to recruiting and signing these kind of players - that's just the nature of the beast today - you do what you can do under the rules to survive. But it still leaves me a bit sad.
Assuming you get three ships a year, I think the recipe for success is as follows:
a one or two and done and gets picked in lottery
a 2-3 year player who gets drafted
a very good top 100 player who is a consistent contributor to your program and at least a 2 year starter
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This might be a personal issue. If he's a 25 year old junior, I'm sure there's a part of him that isn't thrilled about that.
Which is why I think everyone should assume we'll get one year out of him and then be happy if we get a second.
One year is fine. No doubt here that Lavin will be able to find suitable replacement.
I personally hate 1 years. :( I see folks posting that Jarkarr or Orlando should be able give us the equivalent of what Harkless gave us last year (who knows, if Lav's isn't blowing smoke, maybe Cjones does!). BUT THATS NOT THE POINT. They're likely NOT going to give us what a SOPHOMORE Harkless would have given us THIS year. Does anyone doubt a returning Mo would have been the likely BE POY in 2013?
Agree But if it's a logistical thing, there's nothing we can do. I bet Sanchez has 2 years when all is said and done, unless he's good enough to go nba. If he goes NBA, it is ultimately great for Lavin's recruiting resume'.
I agree. It's just that as an old timer, I'm always torn by these situations. I get "recruiting resumes" and "perception of the program" based on post college accomplishments of players - that the quicker those accomplishments come, the better. I'm all for rooting for my favorite teams players when they reach the NBA. Hell, till the Roanoke Dazzle folded, I was a season ticket holder for the D-League - I rooted on Bruins and Hokies there. But when all is said and done, I'm a college hoops guy, and what players accomplish IN COLLEGE for their school and their team is what I respect most. What price is PAID for the 1 and done. Kevin Love was the top player in his class - now proving he's one of the best players in in the pros as well. UCLA got him for one year, and were rewarded with a Final Four appearance. But what if instead of the #1 recruit, they'd gone after and signed the #93 RSCI player that year. Another 6'10 kid - Markieff Morris. Who stayed three years in college. With the talent that was on UCLA, WITH that Post position intact for 2 additional years, there is no "drop off the precipice" as actually happpened. No Nikola Dragovic as your "go to guy".
There is no proper answer, no "right or wrong" when it comes to recruiting and signing these kind of players - that's just the nature of the beast today - you do what you can do under the rules to survive. But it still leaves me a bit sad.
Assuming you get three ships a year, I think the recipe for success is as follows:
a one or two and done and gets picked in lottery
a 2-3 year player who gets drafted
a very good top 100 player who is a consistent contributor to your program and at least a 2 year starter
I see the merits in what you're saying Ted, but to me you have to recruit the best possible talent you can - and then let the chips fall where they may.
If I can get 4 top 20 guys, all of whom might be one and done's, then I do it.
But I do see the advantages to having a more experienced team. Sometimes I think it comes down to luck though.
You would never recruit a "tweener" over his counter-part who is just as good and a step faster, or 2 inches taller. But then sometimes you roll the balls out and the tweener blossoms into a college star, yet still isn't looked at highly by NBA scouts so he sticks around for four years. You can't plan for that.
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http://www.redstormsports.com/sports/m-baskbl/mtt/stjo-m-baskbl-mtt.html (http://www.redstormsports.com/sports/m-baskbl/mtt/stjo-m-baskbl-mtt.html)
Official website has him as a junior.
Interesting because the official website has him listed as a Senior now.
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i'm getting the feeling that he's out until 2nd semester.
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Unlike Branch, semester is meaningless.
He could be cleared tomorrow.
He could be cleared in 2 months midway thru 2nd semester.
NCAA is ridiculous though that its taking this long.
I'd imaging that they're extra busy in Aug/Sept, but this insane.
Not for us, but for Orlando.
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If he is at Kentucky or Duke do you think he is cleared?
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I think he gets cleared by the Fordham game. Just a hunch, no info on it at all.
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This saga gives you a sense of how little NCAA cares about timely resolution of issues.
“@Joshua_Newman: Good to see the NCAA is in no rush to decide on Texas sophomore point guard Myck Kabongo. http://t.co/eF9Jzuxf (http://t.co/eF9Jzuxf)”
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“@QSTJHoops: No update on the Orlando Sanchez situation, says Lavin. #stjbb”
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Vitale reference to Orlando at end of article;
COMMENTARY
College hoops landscape changing
Updated: December 12, 2012, 12:46 PM ET
By Dick Vitale | ESPN.com
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The landscape of college basketball will be changing in a number of places.
At this time of year, there are players becoming eligible, others returning from injury. Several schools will receive a boost that could make a difference.
Out at UNLV, 6-9 sophomore Khem Birch is anticipated to be eligible in time for the team's game at UTEP on December 17. Put him up front with diaper dandy Anthony Bennett and you have a dynamic duo. Veteran Mike Moser suffered a dislocated elbow vs. California, so Birch's presence will help. Birch transferred from Pittsburgh and had to sit out the first semester. He gives coach Dave Rice another big body. The Rebels already had a loaded roster, and this will help provide even greater depth.
Missouri has a lot of talent in the backcourt, even with Michael Dixon Jr. leaving the program. Coach Frank Haith gets another potential scoring threat when former Oregon player Jabari Brown becomes eligible December 17 vs. South Carolina State if his coursework from the first semester is completed. Brown was highly-recruited out of high school and has the potential to contribute.
The rich will get richer as the news is finally positive in Bloomington, Ind. 6-8 Hanner Mosquera-Pera and seven-footer Peter Jurkin will be eligible December 15 vs. Butler after serving a nine-game suspension for receiving impermissible benefits from a former coach who was considered a booster. I did not understand the length of the suspension, but it will be over with and coach Tom Crean will likely use Mosquera-Pera in his rotation early. Jurkin will also add another big body to the already tough Hoosier lineup. Indiana is getting back injured forward Derek Elston too. He had surgery for a torn meniscus.
Louisville will be a different team when center Gorgui Dieng returns to the lineup. He suffered a broken wrist against Missouri back on November 23 and was listed as out for 4-6 weeks. Rick Pitino will be thrilled to get him back down the line as he is a shot-blocker extraordinaire in the paint.
Providence could be a different club if guard Vincent Council returns. A preseason All-Big East selection, he hurt his leg in the first game and has not return. Listed as day-to-day, he would give coach Ed Cooley's team a major lift should he be back. The Longhorns will eventually get forward Jaylen Bond back from a foot injury. Florida State hopes to have guard Ian Miller back for ACC play.
Then there is the case of Myck Kabongo of Texas and Orlando Sanchez of St. John's. Both are waiting tor the NCAA to rule on their futures and they could be difference-makers. Kabongo's absnce has hurt a young Texas team which has been plagued by turnovers.
My friends, keep an eye on these players as college basketball heads towards league play.
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I had a dream last night he was cleared. Let's hope I have some freaky powers and it just what I ate for dinner
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I had a dream last night he was cleared. Let's hope I have some freaky powers and it just what I ate for dinner
Not what you ate hopefully.
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Speculation or do you know something?
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This is sanctioned by the California Community College Athletic Association rather than the NCAA but it gives me hope that Sanchez might be cleared soon. This broad is 50, whereas Sanchez is only like 47.
"Fifty year old 6-foot-6-inch 220-pound Desert Storm veteran Gabrielle Ludwig, who joined the Mission College Lady Saints as a mid-season walk-on became the first transsexual to play college hoops as both a man [Nassau Community College] and a woman."
(http://www.inflexwetrust.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/IFWT-Gabrielle-Ludwig.jpg)
http://www.timesheraldonline.com/sports/ci_22198685/transsexual-gabrielle-ludwig-plays-basketball-mission-college-although (http://www.timesheraldonline.com/sports/ci_22198685/transsexual-gabrielle-ludwig-plays-basketball-mission-college-although)
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STJ_Basketball @STJ_Basketball
Orlando Sanchez on the videoboard wishing #stjbb fans a "Feliz Navidad," complete with Santa Beard. No change on Orlando's status, unfort.
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My memory is shot.. But can anyone remember a case like this going so long without at least a ruling?
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My memory is shot.. But can anyone remember a case like this going so long without at least a ruling?
No. What I don't get is, if the answer is no, say so. I can't imagine we are still responding to information requests from NCAA. Sad saga on many levels.
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My memory is shot.. But can anyone remember a case like this going so long without at least a ruling?
No. What I don't get is, if the answer is no, say so. I can't imagine we are still responding to information requests from NCAA. Sad saga on many levels.
We are still responding.
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My memory is shot.. But can anyone remember a case like this going so long without at least a ruling?
No. What I don't get is, if the answer is no, say so. I can't imagine we are still responding to information requests from NCAA. Sad saga on many levels.
We are still responding.
Thx Poison, surprised.
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My memory is shot.. But can anyone remember a case like this going so long without at least a ruling?
No. What I don't get is, if the answer is no, say so. I can't imagine we are still responding to information requests from NCAA. Sad saga on many levels.
We are still responding.
Thx Poison, surprised.
Are we late responding to old requests, or is the NCAA issuing new (additional) information requests?
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My memory is shot.. But can anyone remember a case like this going so long without at least a ruling?
No. What I don't get is, if the answer is no, say so. I can't imagine we are still responding to information requests from NCAA. Sad saga on many levels.
We are still responding.
Thx Poison, surprised.
Are we late responding to old requests, or is the NCAA issuing new (additional) information requests?
They keep asking for new stuff
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The NCAA probably wanted to wait until Christmas Day to officially suspend him for the season.
Part of me wonders if there is some good ole fashioned racism at work here?
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Part of me wonders if there is some good ole fashioned racism at work here?
"I hope that none of you feel the way I have the last two days, as if someone had come into my house and raped me."
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Part of me wonders if there is some good ole fashioned racism at work here?
"I hope that none of you feel the way I have the last two days, as if someone had come into my house and raped me."
What makes you say that? Similar qoute from Jarvis to the NCAA.
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Part of me wonders if there is some good ole fashioned racism at work here?
"I hope that none of you feel the way I have the last two days, as if someone had come into my house and raped me."
What makes you say that? Similar qoute from Jarvis to the NCAA.
That is what Jarvis said while the NCAA was harassing Erick Barkley for basically nothing. The NCAA has always targeted SJ. Have to wonder if they have a problem with SJ's on another level?
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Lapchick was probably the last coach to tell them to keep their silly tournament, STJ is staying big time and playing in the NIT at the Garden (on 49th St).
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How long did it take NCAA to suspend Kanter for entire season last year?
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Nothing new, but at least someone is referencing this situation. The silence of other hoops scribes speaks volumes IMO. Like many, I feel we are dead in the water on this.
“@AdamZagoria: St. John’s Sanchez Still Awaiting Word from NCAA http://t.co/6VLpddqx (http://t.co/6VLpddqx) #stjbb”
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Nothing new, but at least someone is referencing this situation. The silence of other hoops scribes speaks volumes IMO. Like many, I feel we are dead in the water on this.
“@AdamZagoria: St. John’s Sanchez Still Awaiting Word from NCAA http://t.co/6VLpddqx (http://t.co/6VLpddqx) #stjbb”
It's simply amazing that not one of the ESPN guys have chimed in on this unless they know it's a lost cause for a very good reason.
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Nothing new, but at least someone is referencing this situation. The silence of other hoops scribes speaks volumes IMO. Like many, I feel we are dead in the water on this.
“@AdamZagoria: St. John’s Sanchez Still Awaiting Word from NCAA http://t.co/6VLpddqx (http://t.co/6VLpddqx) #stjbb”
It's simply amazing that not one of the ESPN guys have chimed in on this unless they know it's a lost cause for a very good reason.
I think they must think it is a lost cause. I contacted Bilas, Vitale and host of others with no response. Speaks to my influence! Ha!
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Not sure what I am missing. Why is it such a big deal that he is 24.
If a HS graduates at 18 then goes to Prep School for 1 year he would be 19 going into College. If the young man Red Shirted 1 year he would be 24 when he is a Sr.
Let the Young Man play already. This is crazy!!
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Not sure what I am missing. Why is it such a big deal that he is 24.
If a HS graduates at 18 then goes to Prep School for 1 year he would be 19 going into College. If the young man Red Shirted 1 year he would be 24 when he is a Sr.
Let the Young Man play already. This is crazy!!
The problem is the NCAA allows 5 years to play 4. They're apparently claiming his entering a trade school at age 17 after his parents died to help support the family started his "5 year clock"...Apparently they're "deciding" if A) the "trade school" constituted a College (as opposed to prep school), and whether the family situation mitigates the rule enough to allow an exception.
At least that's what I've been able to put together from all this. But this is the NCAA. Could just be pure horse manure. As it was with Shabazz Muhammad - Decide he's guilty early on, then keep searching to find some proof. The kids are forced to prove their innocense, rather than the NCAA having to prove their guilt. Shabazz was cleared because the lead investigators boyfriend got drunk on a plane and made that dirty little secret public. NCAa HAD to admit they had fould virtually ZIPPO evidence of wrong-doing, other than the self reported family friends paying for an unooficial visit to Durham/Chapel Hill - which it turned out Shabazz's dad had CHECKED with the NCAA before doing, and been told it was okay.
And there's the sad case of Lavin recruit Schea Cotton - The NCAA jerked him around for almost 3 years before they were forced to allow him to play college ball. He had a learning disability, certified by multiple doctors/therapists/educators - so he was granted extra time during the SAT's to complete the test. He passed. And the NCAA clearinghouse refused to recognize the test. The Cottton's took it to court, and won THREE times - and the NCAA dragged it out by Appealing the decisions. Even tho technically allowed by the court decision, no school would allow him to play, because IF the NCAA won the appeal down the road, they could be subject to retroactive sanctions and forfieitures...
NCAA destroyed the kid. Seems like they're trying to do the same thing to Sanchez.
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The NCAA penalizes who they choose to. There are many other schools guilty of actually doing something wrong.
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40 percent of our games. What a joke
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Nothing new, but at least someone is referencing this situation. The silence of other hoops scribes speaks volumes IMO. Like many, I feel we are dead in the water on this.
“@AdamZagoria: St. John’s Sanchez Still Awaiting Word from NCAA http://t.co/6VLpddqx (http://t.co/6VLpddqx) #stjbb”
Not sure if it is coincidence but I dropped Zag a note last week re: Sanchez..Don't know him...Just took a chance....Maybe we should hit all of the local writers...get some more attention
This looks like someone reposted Zags blog verbatim....perhaps we can get more attention
http://newyork.sbnation.com/2012/12/26/3805584/st-johns-orlando-sanchez-ncaa (http://newyork.sbnation.com/2012/12/26/3805584/st-johns-orlando-sanchez-ncaa)
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If the NCAA deems him ineligible, so be it. Its not fair to him nor his teammates that this remains in limbo.
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The waiting is the hardest part.
In the spring, Steve Lavin traveled to Monroe College and beat out a number of suitors for talented 6'9" forward Orlando Sanchez, native of the Dominican Republic [commitment story]. Gifted with speed enough the hang with guards, a producer of good rebounding numbers, and a well-rounded game that co-existed with shot-happy guards.
He was rumored to be a one-year player for St. John's.
Right now, he is a no-year player as St. John's waits for word, two months into the season, from the NCAA about his collegiate eligibility.
The NCAA can move at a glacial pace with respect to eligibility concerns, but Sanchez's case has dragged on longer than the cases of rumored amateurism rules violators Shabazz Muhammad and Myck Kabongo. Initially, the concern was about Sanchez' age. After the Sonoma State exhibition game, head coach Steve Lavin said that "with Orlando['s case], it's related to age and eligibility," while expecting a definitive ruling in early November.
In the broadcast of the St. John's/ South Carolina game at the end of November, ESPN's color commentator Kara Lawson mentioned that part of the issue with Sanchez isn't just his age, but that he spent time working to support his family before going back to school.
One wonders if the NCAA found something that would "compromise" his "amateur status", in theAssociation's language. The length of time the eligibility decision is taking is more reminiscent of issues where the NCAA is determining whether a player played overseas or received extra benefits - or are still collecting more information.
In other countries, playing for youth teams comes with traveling money and some benefits; in the Enes Kanter case, the NCAA struggled to determine whether Kanter had received improper money until his former team told the NCAA he received money (possibly to make an example of him).
Deniz Kilicli of West Virginia was benched for 20 West Virginia games while the NCAA figured out his eligibility status.
NOT SAYING that is the case, but that there is obviously more to Sanchez' eligibility status than meets the eye. Perhaps it's a difficulty in locating birth records or school records, though he was eligible to play in junior college.
The team is 8-4 without Sanchez entering Big East play. The Johnnies have shown some talent, despite losses to decent mid- and low-major teams. But Sanchez was a very good rebounder on the junior college level, and one of the Johnnies' main issues is an inability to own the glass on both ends.
Yes, God`sGift Achiuwa is on the bench redshirting. But in extended time last season, he did not show a gift for rebounding. His 5.8 rebounds in 30 minutes per game is comparable to Chris Obekpa's 5.3 rebounds in 25 minutes per game; neither is enough to turn the Johnnies' fortunes on the glass around.
From our look at Sanchez' on-court stylings in the spring:
Sanchez was the leading rebounder and fourth-leading scorer on the Monroe College Mustangs, averaging 10.2 points per game and 7.7 rebounds (2.3 offensive rebounds per game), and added 1.8 blocks per game. Sanchez averaged 4.2 blocks per game in his freshman year at Monroe, with 9.8 points and 7.7 rebounds.
Seven percent of his shots are from outside the arc; he's hit 4/18 from the perimeter and is shooting 57.4% from the free throw line, so his perimeter shooting doesn't appear to be a strength at this time.
Inside the arc, he connected on 58% of his two-pointers and assisting on 15.8% of his team's shots - not the rate of a point guard, but the rate of a conscientious wing.
Sanchez is grabbing 22.8% of available defensive rebounds when he's on the floor, and 9.6% of his own team's misses.
Like Jamal Branch, Orlando Sanchez' talents might not be the cure for what "ails" the Red Storm; he might nit be the salve for the Red Storm's deficiencies. But it's hard to imagine that he wouldn't help with a rotation that lacks an impact big man who can end possessions and help facilitate half-court offense.
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Yes, God`sGift Achiuwa is on the bench redshirting. But in extended time last season, he did not show a gift for rebounding. His 5.8 rebounds in 30 minutes per game is comparable to Chris Obekpa's 5.3 rebounds in 25 minutes per game; neither is enough to turn the Johnnies' fortunes on the glass around.
We need Gift now.
JaKarr should not be playing the 5. But with CO averaging 25.4 min, Jakarr is the Ctr for 14 min/g
Gift's rebounding #'s dropped during BE play to 4.8 per 28 min.
But I expect Chris's Rebs to drop during league play too.
Having a true center 40 min/game will help Jakarr's game & #'s
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Posted over a month ago that the NCAA is looking for all sorts of paperwork from Sanchez
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Posted over a month ago that the NCAA is looking for all sorts of paperwork from Sanchez
Hey, maybe the Dominican Government can pressure them thru the State Department. I mean this is a foreign country - what happens if the paperwork the NCAA wants doesn't actually exist? Not every nations school system has the same "paper trail" as US schools...
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Posted over a month ago that the NCAA is looking for all sorts of paperwork from Sanchez
Hey, maybe the Dominican Government can pressure them thru the State Department. I mean this is a foreign country - what happens if the paperwork the NCAA wants doesn't actually exist? Not every nations school system has the same "paper trail" as US schools...
Nail on head. NCAA wants everything, bullseye on his back because of his age
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Posted over a month ago that the NCAA is looking for all sorts of paperwork from Sanchez
Hey, maybe the Dominican Government can pressure them thru the State Department. I mean this is a foreign country - what happens if the paperwork the NCAA wants doesn't actually exist? Not every nations school system has the same "paper trail" as US schools...
I really don't care how we pressure them, as long as we do.
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Marco they want him because they think he got paid for playing basketball
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Marco they want him because they think he got paid for playing basketball
Of course. He is a big east player
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Well, he's back in NY. Someone on his Facebook asked him why he came back. His response, "to be with my team." Sounds like he's going to stick this out to the end.
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Well, he's back in NY. Someone on his Facebook asked him why he came back. His response, "to be with my team." Sounds like he's going to stick this out to the end.
Good for him. Maybe good for us
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Well!
“@nypostsports: EXCLUSIVE: St. John's could get JUCO transfer Orlando Sanchez cleared by NCAA soon http://t.co/IulrwD4O (http://t.co/IulrwD4O)”
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Well!
“@nypostsports: EXCLUSIVE: St. John's could get JUCO transfer Orlando Sanchez cleared by NCAA soon http://t.co/IulrwD4O (http://t.co/IulrwD4O)”
please let there be truth to this rumor.
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If he is declared eligible and there is no reason that he would have been ineligible for any games in his D1 career than even if he would have normally been eligible for one year the ncaa should give him a second year of eligibility for wasting half of this season. Do something good for the kids for once.
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This is a bunch of BS. He could get 'cleared in a few weeks'. Like when? at the end of the season?! Geez.
Orlando certainly has a lot of patience. I sure hope he is declared a Junior.
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This is a bunch of BS. He could get 'cleared in a few weeks'. Like when? at the end of the season?! Geez.
Orlando certainly has a lot of patience. I sure hope he is declared a Junior.
I think he is the only player this year still in limbo. Therefore EVERYTHING else should be tabled until this is resolved. Of course that might make too much sense for the NCAA.
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Could they really declare him a senior that late? Doesn't seem fair.
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This is a bunch of BS. He could get 'cleared in a few weeks'. Like when? at the end of the season?! Geez.
Orlando certainly has a lot of patience. I sure hope he is declared a Junior.
Lenn Robbins said St Johns expects him back in 7-10 days on twitter. Thats not so bad considering how long everyone in this situation has waited.
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“@LennRobbins: St. John's sent the NCAA more documentation on Monday outlining financial hardship”
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This is a bunch of BS. He could get 'cleared in a few weeks'. Like when? at the end of the season?! Geez.
Orlando certainly has a lot of patience. I sure hope he is declared a Junior.
Lenn Robbins said St Johns expects him back in 7-10 days on twitter. Thats not so bad considering how long everyone in this situation has waited.
keep in mind thats the same time table lavin gave after the first exhibition game.
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This is a bunch of BS. He could get 'cleared in a few weeks'. Like when? at the end of the season?! Geez.
Orlando certainly has a lot of patience. I sure hope he is declared a Junior.
Lenn Robbins said St Johns expects him back in 7-10 days on twitter. Thats not so bad considering how long everyone in this situation has waited.
keep in mind thats the same time table lavin gave after the first exhibition game.
To be fair, Lavin was extremely cryptic when referring to Sanchez at the start of the season. I am very excited for this news! I hope they classify the poor kid as a junior.
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Could they really declare him a senior that late? Doesn't seem fair.
Since when has fairness been an issue w the NCAA. If the NCAA was fair this would have already been resolved.
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This is a bunch of BS. He could get 'cleared in a few weeks'. Like when? at the end of the season?! Geez.
Orlando certainly has a lot of patience. I sure hope he is declared a Junior.
Lenn Robbins said St Johns expects him back in 7-10 days on twitter. Thats not so bad considering how long everyone in this situation has waited.
keep in mind thats the same time table lavin gave after the first exhibition game.
To be fair, Lavin was extremely cryptic when referring to Sanchez at the start of the season. I am very excited for this news! I hope they classify the poor kid as a junior.
It would be the right thing to do which means he will probably be declared a senior
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Translation: Let's hold off on an announcement until we sell more season ticket plans.
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Translation: Let's hold off on an announcement until we sell more season ticket plans.
Ha
Your conspiracy theories are close to rivaling Bobre
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Translation: Let's hold off on an announcement until we sell more season ticket plans.
You may be on to something. Just announced! Season tickets drive thru window now open 24/7.
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Translation: Let's hold off on an announcement until we sell more season ticket plans.
You may be on to something. Just announced! Season tickets drive thru window now open 24/7.
If, as the report says the problem really is ONLY his age, and if "severe financial hardship" is a mitigator which would allow a waiver of the age restriction, doesn't sound like there would be any way he would NOT have two years of eligibility remaining - there's neve been any question that he's only participated in 2 years of college athletics. If the age restriction is waived, doubtful it would be for only 1 year. Would be like that 47 year old truck driver (droppped out of high school to support his siblings when their parents died), went back at age 45 and got his high school degree, then enrolled in college (think it was San Jose State), then walked on as a linebacker on the football team. I think if you GET the waiver, doesn't matter HOW old you are then.
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Translation: Let's hold off on an announcement until we sell more season ticket plans.
You may be on to something. Just announced! Season tickets drive thru window now open 24/7.
If, as the report says the problem really is ONLY his age, and if "severe financial hardship" is a mitigator which would allow a waiver of the age restriction, doesn't sound like there would be any way he would NOT have two years of eligibility remaining - there's neve been any question that he's only participated in 2 years of college athletics. If the age restriction is waived, doubtful it would be for only 1 year. Would be like that 47 year old truck driver (droppped out of high school to support his siblings when their parents died), went back at age 45 and got his high school degree, then enrolled in college (think it was San Jose State), then walked on as a linebacker on the football team. I think if you GET the waiver, doesn't matter HOW old you are then.
Maybe this is like Ferris Bueller, and Rooney asked to see a body?
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Translation: Let's hold off on an announcement until we sell more season ticket plans.
You may be on to something. Just announced! Season tickets drive thru window now open 24/7.
If, as the report says the problem really is ONLY his age, and if "severe financial hardship" is a mitigator which would allow a waiver of the age restriction, doesn't sound like there would be any way he would NOT have two years of eligibility remaining - there's neve been any question that he's only participated in 2 years of college athletics. If the age restriction is waived, doubtful it would be for only 1 year. Would be like that 47 year old truck driver (droppped out of high school to support his siblings when their parents died), went back at age 45 and got his high school degree, then enrolled in college (think it was San Jose State), then walked on as a linebacker on the football team. I think if you GET the waiver, doesn't matter HOW old you are then.
Would be fantastic for both SJU and Orlando if he gets two years. With two years, we are in REAL good shape no matter what scenario next year. Whether we keep Jakarr, land Lawrence etc.. I hope for his sake and ours that he gets two years. He's a very good player overall with fantastic passing ability for a guy his size. Savy player. We have desperately missed a real PF and he's the tallest player on the team. He'd help in every way.
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Translation: Let's hold off on an announcement until we sell more season ticket plans.
You may be on to something. Just announced! Season tickets drive thru window now open 24/7.
If, as the report says the problem really is ONLY his age, and if "severe financial hardship" is a mitigator which would allow a waiver of the age restriction, doesn't sound like there would be any way he would NOT have two years of eligibility remaining - there's neve been any question that he's only participated in 2 years of college athletics. If the age restriction is waived, doubtful it would be for only 1 year. Would be like that 47 year old truck driver (droppped out of high school to support his siblings when their parents died), went back at age 45 and got his high school degree, then enrolled in college (think it was San Jose State), then walked on as a linebacker on the football team. I think if you GET the waiver, doesn't matter HOW old you are then.
Would be fantastic for both SJU and Orlando if he gets two years. With two years, we are in REAL good shape no matter what scenario next year. Whether we keep Jakarr, land Lawrence etc.. I hope for his sake and ours that he gets two years. He's a very good player overall with fantastic passing ability for a guy his size. Savy player. We have desperately missed a real PF and he's the tallest player on the team. He'd help in every way.
If he gets two years where do those scholarships come from?
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Translation: Let's hold off on an announcement until we sell more season ticket plans.
You may be on to something. Just announced! Season tickets drive thru window now open 24/7.
If, as the report says the problem really is ONLY his age, and if "severe financial hardship" is a mitigator which would allow a waiver of the age restriction, doesn't sound like there would be any way he would NOT have two years of eligibility remaining - there's neve been any question that he's only participated in 2 years of college athletics. If the age restriction is waived, doubtful it would be for only 1 year. Would be like that 47 year old truck driver (droppped out of high school to support his siblings when their parents died), went back at age 45 and got his high school degree, then enrolled in college (think it was San Jose State), then walked on as a linebacker on the football team. I think if you GET the waiver, doesn't matter HOW old you are then.
Would be fantastic for both SJU and Orlando if he gets two years. With two years, we are in REAL good shape no matter what scenario next year. Whether we keep Jakarr, land Lawrence etc.. I hope for his sake and ours that he gets two years. He's a very good player overall with fantastic passing ability for a guy his size. Savy player. We have desperately missed a real PF and he's the tallest player on the team. He'd help in every way.
If he gets two years where do those scholarships come from?
All depends on what happens down the line with Harrison, Jakarr etc. Hooper could walk-on. Who knows?
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Translation: Let's hold off on an announcement until we sell more season ticket plans.
You may be on to something. Just announced! Season tickets drive thru window now open 24/7.
If, as the report says the problem really is ONLY his age, and if "severe financial hardship" is a mitigator which would allow a waiver of the age restriction, doesn't sound like there would be any way he would NOT have two years of eligibility remaining - there's neve been any question that he's only participated in 2 years of college athletics. If the age restriction is waived, doubtful it would be for only 1 year. Would be like that 47 year old truck driver (droppped out of high school to support his siblings when their parents died), went back at age 45 and got his high school degree, then enrolled in college (think it was San Jose State), then walked on as a linebacker on the football team. I think if you GET the waiver, doesn't matter HOW old you are then.
Would be fantastic for both SJU and Orlando if he gets two years. With two years, we are in REAL good shape no matter what scenario next year. Whether we keep Jakarr, land Lawrence etc.. I hope for his sake and ours that he gets two years. He's a very good player overall with fantastic passing ability for a guy his size. Savy player. We have desperately missed a real PF and he's the tallest player on the team. He'd help in every way.
If he gets two years where do those scholarships come from?
Initial reaction is Felix and Jones if needed would be nudged...
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Jones would be toast at that point ( I think?) :coolsmiley:
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There is a chance the Red Storm could get center Orlando Sanchez cleared by the NCAA in the coming weeks, The Post has learned.
C'mon now.
How is this remotely news?
More hedges than Van Cortland Park.
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There is a chance the Red Storm could get center Orlando Sanchez cleared by the NCAA in the coming weeks, The Post has learned.
C'mon now.
How is this remotely news?
More hedges than Van Cortland Park.
But who is feeding story of optimism to Lenn?? Have to assume SJU. Why do so, if they don't feel chances are good? Just my opinion, could be wrong.
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Translation: Let's hold off on an announcement until we sell more season ticket plans.
You may be on to something. Just announced! Season tickets drive thru window now open 24/7.
If, as the report says the problem really is ONLY his age, and if "severe financial hardship" is a mitigator which would allow a waiver of the age restriction, doesn't sound like there would be any way he would NOT have two years of eligibility remaining - there's neve been any question that he's only participated in 2 years of college athletics. If the age restriction is waived, doubtful it would be for only 1 year. Would be like that 47 year old truck driver (droppped out of high school to support his siblings when their parents died), went back at age 45 and got his high school degree, then enrolled in college (think it was San Jose State), then walked on as a linebacker on the football team. I think if you GET the waiver, doesn't matter HOW old you are then.
Would be fantastic for both SJU and Orlando if he gets two years. With two years, we are in REAL good shape no matter what scenario next year. Whether we keep Jakarr, land Lawrence etc.. I hope for his sake and ours that he gets two years. He's a very good player overall with fantastic passing ability for a guy his size. Savy player. We have desperately missed a real PF and he's the tallest player on the team. He'd help in every way.
If he gets two years where do those scholarships come from?
Initial reaction is Felix and Jones if needed would be nudged...
I'd take Felix and jones over Dom and Greene, on that note really hoping Felix's minutes go back up during league play
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Translation: Let's hold off on an announcement until we sell more season ticket plans.
You may be on to something. Just announced! Season tickets drive thru window now open 24/7.
If, as the report says the problem really is ONLY his age, and if "severe financial hardship" is a mitigator which would allow a waiver of the age restriction, doesn't sound like there would be any way he would NOT have two years of eligibility remaining - there's neve been any question that he's only participated in 2 years of college athletics. If the age restriction is waived, doubtful it would be for only 1 year. Would be like that 47 year old truck driver (droppped out of high school to support his siblings when their parents died), went back at age 45 and got his high school degree, then enrolled in college (think it was San Jose State), then walked on as a linebacker on the football team. I think if you GET the waiver, doesn't matter HOW old you are then.
Would be fantastic for both SJU and Orlando if he gets two years. With two years, we are in REAL good shape no matter what scenario next year. Whether we keep Jakarr, land Lawrence etc.. I hope for his sake and ours that he gets two years. He's a very good player overall with fantastic passing ability for a guy his size. Savy player. We have desperately missed a real PF and he's the tallest player on the team. He'd help in every way.
If he gets two years where do those scholarships come from?
Initial reaction is Felix and Jones if needed would be nudged...
I'd take Felix and jones over Dom and Greene, on that note really hoping Felix's minutes go back up during league play
I'd take them all. Hold up with the talk of nudging anyone out and give this group some time. Freshmen and Sophmores become better Juniors and Seniors .. Look at the senior laden squad in Lavin's first year. Man I can remember fans wanting to throw David Cain on the first bus out of town and he developed into a pretty good player in his senior season.
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There is a chance the Red Storm could get center Orlando Sanchez cleared by the NCAA in the coming weeks, The Post has learned.
C'mon now.
How is this remotely news?
More hedges than Van Cortland Park.
But who is feeding story of optimism to Lenn?? Have to assume SJU. Why do so, if they don't feel chances are good? Just my opinion, could be wrong.
Agreed. He could have simply said "SJU is still waiting word" which has essentially been the line recently including from Zags. Obviously someone close to the staff is telling Lenn he thinks that the NCAA is close to a decision and a positive one at that.
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Translation: Let's hold off on an announcement until we sell more season ticket plans.
You may be on to something. Just announced! Season tickets drive thru window now open 24/7.
If, as the report says the problem really is ONLY his age, and if "severe financial hardship" is a mitigator which would allow a waiver of the age restriction, doesn't sound like there would be any way he would NOT have two years of eligibility remaining - there's neve been any question that he's only participated in 2 years of college athletics. If the age restriction is waived, doubtful it would be for only 1 year. Would be like that 47 year old truck driver (droppped out of high school to support his siblings when their parents died), went back at age 45 and got his high school degree, then enrolled in college (think it was San Jose State), then walked on as a linebacker on the football team. I think if you GET the waiver, doesn't matter HOW old you are then.
Would be fantastic for both SJU and Orlando if he gets two years. With two years, we are in REAL good shape no matter what scenario next year. Whether we keep Jakarr, land Lawrence etc.. I hope for his sake and ours that he gets two years. He's a very good player overall with fantastic passing ability for a guy his size. Savy player. We have desperately missed a real PF and he's the tallest player on the team. He'd help in every way.
If he gets two years where do those scholarships come from?
Initial reaction is Felix and Jones if needed would be nudged...
I'd take Felix and jones over Dom and Greene, on that note really hoping Felix's minutes go back up during league play
I'd take them all. Hold up with the talk of nudging anyone out and give this group some time. Freshmen and Sophmores become better Juniors and Seniors .. Look at the senior laden squad in Lavin's first year. Man I can remember fans wanting to throw David Cain on the first bus out of town and he developed into a pretty good player in his senior season.
I'm pretty sure Greene slept with Chillie's girlfriend ;D
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Translation: Let's hold off on an announcement until we sell more season ticket plans.
You may be on to something. Just announced! Season tickets drive thru window now open 24/7.
If, as the report says the problem really is ONLY his age, and if "severe financial hardship" is a mitigator which would allow a waiver of the age restriction, doesn't sound like there would be any way he would NOT have two years of eligibility remaining - there's neve been any question that he's only participated in 2 years of college athletics. If the age restriction is waived, doubtful it would be for only 1 year. Would be like that 47 year old truck driver (droppped out of high school to support his siblings when their parents died), went back at age 45 and got his high school degree, then enrolled in college (think it was San Jose State), then walked on as a linebacker on the football team. I think if you GET the waiver, doesn't matter HOW old you are then.
Would be fantastic for both SJU and Orlando if he gets two years. With two years, we are in REAL good shape no matter what scenario next year. Whether we keep Jakarr, land Lawrence etc.. I hope for his sake and ours that he gets two years. He's a very good player overall with fantastic passing ability for a guy his size. Savy player. We have desperately missed a real PF and he's the tallest player on the team. He'd help in every way.
If he gets two years where do those scholarships come from?
Initial reaction is Felix and Jones if needed would be nudged...
I'd take Felix and jones over Dom and Greene, on that note really hoping Felix's minutes go back up during league play
I'd take them all. Hold up with the talk of nudging anyone out and give this group some time. Freshmen and Sophmores become better Juniors and Seniors .. Look at the senior laden squad in Lavin's first year. Man I can remember fans wanting to throw David Cain on the first bus out of town and he developed into a pretty good player in his senior season.
I'm pretty sure Greene slept with Chillie's girlfriend ;D
Ha! Maybe I'll like his play more once lav slides him over to the wing, just take him off the ball for goodness sakes.
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There is a chance the Red Storm could get center Orlando Sanchez cleared by the NCAA in the coming weeks, The Post has learned.
C'mon now.
How is this remotely news?
More hedges than Van Cortland Park.
But who is feeding story of optimism to Lenn?? Have to assume SJU. Why do so, if they don't feel chances are good? Just my opinion, could be wrong.
Why do so? To sell tickets.
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There is a chance the Red Storm could get center Orlando Sanchez cleared by the NCAA in the coming weeks, The Post has learned.
C'mon now.
How is this remotely news?
More hedges than Van Cortland Park.
But who is feeding story of optimism to Lenn?? Have to assume SJU. Why do so, if they don't feel chances are good? Just my opinion, could be wrong.
Why do so? To sell tickets.
How many tickets do you honestly think Orlando Sanchez is selling?
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There is a chance the Red Storm could get center Orlando Sanchez cleared by the NCAA in the coming weeks, The Post has learned.
C'mon now.
How is this remotely news?
More hedges than Van Cortland Park.
But who is feeding story of optimism to Lenn?? Have to assume SJU. Why do so, if they don't feel chances are good? Just my opinion, could be wrong.
Why do so? To sell tickets.
No offense but your ticket conspiracy is so off. You go to games. You see how many people are there. You can promise free beer and STJ fans still aren't showing up.
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There is a chance the Red Storm could get center Orlando Sanchez cleared by the NCAA in the coming weeks, The Post has learned.
C'mon now.
How is this remotely news?
More hedges than Van Cortland Park.
But who is feeding story of optimism to Lenn?? Have to assume SJU. Why do so, if they don't feel chances are good? Just my opinion, could be wrong.
Why do so? To sell tickets.
No offense but your ticket conspiracy is so off. You go to games. You see how many people are there. You can promise free beer and STJ fans still aren't showing up.
It's not as off as you think.
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There is a chance the Red Storm could get center Orlando Sanchez cleared by the NCAA in the coming weeks, The Post has learned.
C'mon now.
How is this remotely news?
More hedges than Van Cortland Park.
But who is feeding story of optimism to Lenn?? Have to assume SJU. Why do so, if they don't feel chances are good? Just my opinion, could be wrong.
Why do so? To sell tickets.
No offense but your ticket conspiracy is so off. You go to games. You see how many people are there. You can promise free beer and STJ fans still aren't showing up.
It's not as off as you think.
Trust me ticket sales are not booming and NOBODY knows who the hell Orlando Sanchez is. Big reach IMO on your part.
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There is a chance the Red Storm could get center Orlando Sanchez cleared by the NCAA in the coming weeks, The Post has learned.
C'mon now.
How is this remotely news?
More hedges than Van Cortland Park.
But who is feeding story of optimism to Lenn?? Have to assume SJU. Why do so, if they don't feel chances are good? Just my opinion, could be wrong.
Why do so? To sell tickets.
No offense but your ticket conspiracy is so off. You go to games. You see how many people are there. You can promise free beer and STJ fans still aren't showing up.
It's not as off as you think.
Trust me ticket sales are not booming and NOBODY knows who the hell Orlando Sanchez is. Big reach IMO on your part.
When has St.John's ever done anything underhanded regarding tickets?
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There is a chance the Red Storm could get center Orlando Sanchez cleared by the NCAA in the coming weeks, The Post has learned.
C'mon now.
How is this remotely news?
More hedges than Van Cortland Park.
But who is feeding story of optimism to Lenn?? Have to assume SJU. Why do so, if they don't feel chances are good? Just my opinion, could be wrong.
Why do so? To sell tickets.
No offense but your ticket conspiracy is so off. You go to games. You see how many people are there. You can promise free beer and STJ fans still aren't showing up.
Free beer would be a helluva promotion
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There is a chance the Red Storm could get center Orlando Sanchez cleared by the NCAA in the coming weeks, The Post has learned.
C'mon now.
How is this remotely news?
More hedges than Van Cortland Park.
But who is feeding story of optimism to Lenn?? Have to assume SJU. Why do so, if they don't feel chances are good? Just my opinion, could be wrong.
Why do so? To sell tickets.
No offense but your ticket conspiracy is so off. You go to games. You see how many people are there. You can promise free beer and STJ fans still aren't showing up.
Free beer would be a helluva promotion
2 free beers and it's sold out all the time...lol
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There is a chance the Red Storm could get center Orlando Sanchez cleared by the NCAA in the coming weeks, The Post has learned.
C'mon now.
How is this remotely news?
More hedges than Van Cortland Park.
But who is feeding story of optimism to Lenn?? Have to assume SJU. Why do so, if they don't feel chances are good? Just my opinion, could be wrong.
Why do so? To sell tickets.
No offense but your ticket conspiracy is so off. You go to games. You see how many people are there. You can promise free beer and STJ fans still aren't showing up.
It's not as off as you think.
Trust me ticket sales are not booming and NOBODY knows who the hell Orlando Sanchez is. Big reach IMO on your part.
When has St.John's ever done anything underhanded regarding tickets?
Yeah and he's gone, no? Might I recommend you reporting your fears to those people you know if you think there is more fishy business still going on. But we need a good conspiracy theory. Bobre's been quiet so this is good fodder.
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There is a chance the Red Storm could get center Orlando Sanchez cleared by the NCAA in the coming weeks, The Post has learned.
C'mon now.
How is this remotely news?
More hedges than Van Cortland Park.
But who is feeding story of optimism to Lenn?? Have to assume SJU. Why do so, if they don't feel chances are good? Just my opinion, could be wrong.
Why do so? To sell tickets.
No offense but your ticket conspiracy is so off. You go to games. You see how many people are there. You can promise free beer and STJ fans still aren't showing up.
It's not as off as you think.
Trust me ticket sales are not booming and NOBODY knows who the hell Orlando Sanchez is. Big reach IMO on your part.
When has St.John's ever done anything underhanded regarding tickets?
Yeah and he's gone, no? Might I recommend you reporting your fears to those people you know if you think there is more fishy business still going on. But we need a good conspiracy theory. Bobre's been quiet so this is good fodder.
Isn't it getting tiresome hearing that Sanchez is going to be cleared, and finding out its BS? They've been pulling this crap all season. Yes, the NCAA is a disgusting corrupt organization, but St.John's has to recognize their own deficiencies as well.
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There is a chance the Red Storm could get center Orlando Sanchez cleared by the NCAA in the coming weeks, The Post has learned.
C'mon now.
How is this remotely news?
More hedges than Van Cortland Park.
But who is feeding story of optimism to Lenn?? Have to assume SJU. Why do so, if they don't feel chances are good? Just my opinion, could be wrong.
So, the SJU sent more documentation to the NCAAA on Monday, and then this store is leaked to Lenn. My initial reaction is the staff is doing what we've been half joking about for weeks on the board; drum up publicity so the NCAA finally makes a decision.
Thats a far more likely scenario than any ticket conspiracy.
Or, they really think he could be eligible soon. But I wouldn't discount this documentation and leak to media are the staff's last ditch efforts to get Orlando cleared.
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There is a chance the Red Storm could get center Orlando Sanchez cleared by the NCAA in the coming weeks, The Post has learned.
C'mon now.
How is this remotely news?
More hedges than Van Cortland Park.
But who is feeding story of optimism to Lenn?? Have to assume SJU. Why do so, if they don't feel chances are good? Just my opinion, could be wrong.
So, the SJU sent more documentation to the NCAAA on Monday, and then this store is leaked to Lenn. My initial reaction is the staff is doing what we've been half joking about for weeks on the board; drum up publicity so the NCAA finally makes a decision.
Thats a far more likely scenario than any ticket conspiracy.
Or, they really think he could be eligible soon. But I wouldn't discount this documentation and leak to media are the staff's last ditch efforts to get Orlando cleared.
Why do they have to be drumming something up. Leaking a story to a media outlet isn't new. Pretty much is common practice.
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There is a chance the Red Storm could get center Orlando Sanchez cleared by the NCAA in the coming weeks, The Post has learned.
C'mon now.
How is this remotely news?
More hedges than Van Cortland Park.
But who is feeding story of optimism to Lenn?? Have to assume SJU. Why do so, if they don't feel chances are good? Just my opinion, could be wrong.
So, the SJU sent more documentation to the NCAAA on Monday, and then this store is leaked to Lenn. My initial reaction is the staff is doing what we've been half joking about for weeks on the board; drum up publicity so the NCAA finally makes a decision.
Thats a far more likely scenario than any ticket conspiracy.
Or, they really think he could be eligible soon. But I wouldn't discount this documentation and leak to media are the staff's last ditch efforts to get Orlando cleared.
Lavin is close friends with some big names in the media. He worked at ESPN for a number of years, and that is where he'd turn if he thought the NCAA was being unjust to Sanchesz. I doubt he'd turn to Lenn Robbins of the POST to drum up media attention. The news was leaked to Lenn by someone wishing to get the info out to the fans.
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ESPN's lack of play regarding Sanchez CONSIDERING Lavin's connections with ESPN is a little concerning. There's a chance Sanchez won't be cleared and Lavin does not want this blowing up all over the national media. If there was more confidence on St. John's part, I think we'd be hearing more about this.
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Uh, most peeps who follow college ball dont know Orlando Sanchez from Orlando Calrissian. Only peeps who care are the handful of brothers on this site. Bottom line, this story is not gonna make national news.
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Uh, most peeps who follow college ball dont know Orlando Sanchez from Orlando Calrissian. Only peeps who care are the handful of brothers on this site. Bottom line, this story is not gonna make national news.
I am not so sure about that Choz, especially now with Orlando being the last NCAA player awaiting a decision on eligibility. I am not a conspiracy theorist so I will refrain from speculating but it would have been nice for Decourcy, Vitale, Bilas, Fran etc to chime in. Robbins hasn't thrown crap on the wall for a long time so I take the news being positive.
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There is a chance the Red Storm could get center Orlando Sanchez cleared by the NCAA in the coming weeks, The Post has learned.
C'mon now.
How is this remotely news?
More hedges than Van Cortland Park.
But who is feeding story of optimism to Lenn?? Have to assume SJU. Why do so, if they don't feel chances are good? Just my opinion, could be wrong.
So, the SJU sent more documentation to the NCAAA on Monday, and then this store is leaked to Lenn. My initial reaction is the staff is doing what we've been half joking about for weeks on the board; drum up publicity so the NCAA finally makes a decision.
Thats a far more likely scenario than any ticket conspiracy.
Or, they really think he could be eligible soon. But I wouldn't discount this documentation and leak to media are the staff's last ditch efforts to get Orlando cleared.
Why do they have to be drumming something up. Leaking a story to a media outlet isn't new. Pretty much is common practice.
Fair enough, maybe that was a bad reading of the situation on my part. You are right that leaks happen all the time for different reasons, maybe the staff really does think he could be eligible in a few days and wanted to put some good news about the program out there.
And Marillac makes a good point; if Lavin was trying to draw spotlight to the situation he wouldn't necessarily do it thru Lenn.
Honestly, one way or another I just hope we get to see Sanchez play soon. Who knows how many years of eligibility he could get, or what our scholarship situation will be; but simply from a fan's perspective it would be great to see what he can do on the court. He's gotten some pretty high praise already, including NBA talk, so it would be fun to see how good he really is.
Plus, he adds rebounding and passing; two things we need to improve on.
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By the way, not to nitpik, but maybe somebody can help explain this, because it's curious.
Freshmen year at Monroe CC Orlando avgs 4.3 blocks per game, sophomore year it's down to less than 2. How does that happen? Across the board the rest of his stats pretty much stayed the same. Those 4.3 blocks placed him 3rd in the country for JUCOs.
Based on that freshmen year you would think we might have two of the best shot blockers in the country if Sanchez becomes eligible.
http://monroecollegemustangs.com/news/2012/4/27/MBB_0427122910.aspx (http://monroecollegemustangs.com/news/2012/4/27/MBB_0427122910.aspx)
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By the way, not to nitpik, but maybe somebody can help explain this, because it's curious.
Freshmen year at Monroe CC Orlando avgs 4.3 blocks per game, sophomore year it's down to less than 2. How does that happen? Across the board the rest of his stats pretty much stayed the same. Those 4.3 blocks placed him 3rd in the country for JUCOs.
Based on that freshmen year you would think we might have two of the best shot blockers in the country if Sanchez becomes eligible.
http://monroecollegemustangs.com/news/2012/4/27/MBB_0427122910.aspx (http://monroecollegemustangs.com/news/2012/4/27/MBB_0427122910.aspx)
His sophomore year Ndour came on board. Another frontcourt option. I'm sure it moved Sanchez away from the basket a bit too.
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By the way, not to nitpik, but maybe somebody can help explain this, because it's curious.
Freshmen year at Monroe CC Orlando avgs 4.3 blocks per game, sophomore year it's down to less than 2. How does that happen? Across the board the rest of his stats pretty much stayed the same. Those 4.3 blocks placed him 3rd in the country for JUCOs.
Based on that freshmen year you would think we might have two of the best shot blockers in the country if Sanchez becomes eligible.
http://monroecollegemustangs.com/news/2012/4/27/MBB_0427122910.aspx (http://monroecollegemustangs.com/news/2012/4/27/MBB_0427122910.aspx)
It is a weird drop off. Like moose said the added front court help could have led to it. Maybe they played some cupcakes his freshmen year and he padded his total with some outliers early.
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Uh, most peeps who follow college ball dont know Orlando Sanchez from Orlando Calrissian. Only peeps who care are the handful of brothers on this site. Bottom line, this story is not gonna make national news.
I agree 100%
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I think his first name was Lando, no?
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I think his first name was Lando, no?
His middle name is Dee.
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By the way, not to nitpik, but maybe somebody can help explain this, because it's curious.
Freshmen year at Monroe CC Orlando avgs 4.3 blocks per game, sophomore year it's down to less than 2. How does that happen? Across the board the rest of his stats pretty much stayed the same. Those 4.3 blocks placed him 3rd in the country for JUCOs.
Based on that freshmen year you would think we might have two of the best shot blockers in the country if Sanchez becomes eligible.
http://monroecollegemustangs.com/news/2012/4/27/MBB_0427122910.aspx (http://monroecollegemustangs.com/news/2012/4/27/MBB_0427122910.aspx)
It is a weird drop off. Like moose said the added front court help could have led to it. Maybe they played some cupcakes his freshmen year and he padded his total with some outliers early.
It is a big drop, but he was the only guy in the middle for them his first year. Ndour came along and gave him a different role and a chance to leave the post and expand his perimeter game. The region 15 comp is relatively the same every year...solid but not great.
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By the way, not to nitpik, but maybe somebody can help explain this, because it's curious.
Freshmen year at Monroe CC Orlando avgs 4.3 blocks per game, sophomore year it's down to less than 2. How does that happen? Across the board the rest of his stats pretty much stayed the same. Those 4.3 blocks placed him 3rd in the country for JUCOs.
Based on that freshmen year you would think we might have two of the best shot blockers in the country if Sanchez becomes eligible.
http://monroecollegemustangs.com/news/2012/4/27/MBB_0427122910.aspx (http://monroecollegemustangs.com/news/2012/4/27/MBB_0427122910.aspx)
It is a weird drop off. Like moose said the added front court help could have led to it. Maybe they played some cupcakes his freshmen year and he padded his total with some outliers early.
It is a big drop, but he was the only guy in the middle for them his first year. Ndour came along and gave him a different role and a chance to leave the post and expand his perimeter game. The region 15 comp is relatively the same every year...solid but not great.
Echo.......
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Does it really matter at this point?
The team will be lucky to crack 15 or 16 wins this season and he will play at St. John's for about a month and a half
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we need Primo and he needs us.
It would make for a better season than what has happened so far.
If he gets two years we will be in good shape. If he is declared a senior
then we should let him play so that he can get noticed and either go pro
in the NBA or overseas.
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If he's declared a senior, all he is going to do is take minutes away from underclassmen that need them.
So instead of Garrett, Pointer, Sampson, and Obekpa getting much needed game time, I'll watch a rental player who won't even be able to get us anywhere. No thank you.
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If he's declared a senior, all he is going to do is take minutes away from underclassmen that need them.
So instead of Garrett, Pointer, Sampson, and Obekpa getting much needed game time, I'll watch a rental player who won't even be able to get us anywhere. No thank you.
But we're the youngest team in America. Blah blah blah blah
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If he's declared a senior, all he is going to do is take minutes away from underclassmen that need them.
So instead of Garrett, Pointer, Sampson, and Obekpa getting much needed game time, I'll watch a rental player who won't even be able to get us anywhere. No thank you.
By that rationale felix should get Harrison's minutes because he needs them more to develop and will be at St. John's longer...
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If he's declared a senior, all he is going to do is take minutes away from underclassmen that need them.
So instead of Garrett, Pointer, Sampson, and Obekpa getting much needed game time, I'll watch a rental player who won't even be able to get us anywhere. No thank you.
But we're the youngest team in America. Blah blah blah blah
If I hear that idiot Crispino say that again, I am putting him on permanent mute.
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If he's declared a senior, all he is going to do is take minutes away from underclassmen that need them.
So instead of Garrett, Pointer, Sampson, and Obekpa getting much needed game time, I'll watch a rental player who won't even be able to get us anywhere. No thank you.
But we're the youngest team in America. Blah blah blah blah
If I hear that idiot Crispino say that again, I am putting him on permanent mute.
He's getting fed it from STJ though. I'm tired of it. Plus I think Texas is younger honestly.
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If he's declared a senior, all he is going to do is take minutes away from underclassmen that need them.
So instead of Garrett, Pointer, Sampson, and Obekpa getting much needed game time, I'll watch a rental player who won't even be able to get us anywhere. No thank you.
But we're the youngest team in America. Blah blah blah blah
If I hear that idiot Crispino say that again, I am putting him on permanent mute.
He's getting fed it from STJ though. I'm tired of it. Plus I think Texas is younger honestly.
Agree. Lavin would have done nicely in old USSR, as Director of Propaganda. Tiring!
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Were NYers. We read BS real well, so spin will only go so far. RE: Sanchez, I say redshirt him if we can if he is declared a SR. We not going anywhere this year. It would be better for us and him in the long run.
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Were NYs. We read BS real well, so spin will only go so far. RE: Sanchez, I say redshirt him if we can if he is declared a SR. We not going anywhere this year. It would be better for us and him in the long run.
if you redshirt him, you can pretty much eliminate Jermaine Lawrence as a potential recruit.
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Were NYs. We read BS real well, so spin will only go so far. RE: Sanchez, I say redshirt him if we can if he is declared a SR. We not going anywhere this year. It would be better for us and him in the long run.
We keep hearing the issue is around his age. If age is the issue do you really think the ncaa will let Sju redshirt him?
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Were NYs. We read BS real well, so spin will only go so far. RE: Sanchez, I say redshirt him if we can if he is declared a SR. We not going anywhere this year. It would be better for us and him in the long run.
We keep hearing the issue is around his age. If age is the issue do you really think the ncaa will let Sju redshirt him?
It is not his age.
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Were NYs. We read BS real well, so spin will only go so far. RE: Sanchez, I say redshirt him if we can if he is declared a SR. We not going anywhere this year. It would be better for us and him in the long run.
if you redshirt him, you can pretty much eliminate Jermaine Lawrence as a potential recruit.
Sometimes 1 in the hand is worth 2 in the bush. We as SJU fans are painfully aware of that statement.
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Were NYs. We read BS real well, so spin will only go so far. RE: Sanchez, I say redshirt him if we can if he is declared a SR. We not going anywhere this year. It would be better for us and him in the long run.
We keep hearing the issue is around his age. If age is the issue do you really think the ncaa will let Sju redshirt him?
It is not his age.
So the post article that said the case centers around his age was wrong?
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Were NYs. We read BS real well, so spin will only go so far. RE: Sanchez, I say redshirt him if we can if he is declared a SR. We not going anywhere this year. It would be better for us and him in the long run.
We keep hearing the issue is around his age. If age is the issue do you really think the ncaa will let Sju redshirt him?
It is not his age.
So the post article that said the case centers around his age was wrong?
You can play at variety of ages. Did his age tip off investigators? Yea no doubt. As I've said and a couple others have a few times Its on his eligibility clock and when it started and what happened when he went back to the DR
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Were NYs. We read BS real well, so spin will only go so far. RE: Sanchez, I say redshirt him if we can if he is declared a SR. We not going anywhere this year. It would be better for us and him in the long run.
We keep hearing the issue is around his age. If age is the issue do you really think the ncaa will let Sju redshirt him?
It is not his age.
So the post article that said the case centers around his age was wrong?
You can play at variety of ages. Did his age tip off investigators? Yea no doubt. As I've said and a couple others have a few times Its on his eligibility clock and when it started and what happened when he went back to the DR
Understood, thanks
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http://zagsblog.com/articles/ncaa-declared-st-johns-sanchez-ineligible-in-november-and-hes-unlikely-to-ever-suit-up-for-johnnies/ (http://zagsblog.com/articles/ncaa-declared-st-johns-sanchez-ineligible-in-november-and-hes-unlikely-to-ever-suit-up-for-johnnies/)
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http://zagsblog.com/articles/ncaa-declared-st-johns-sanchez-ineligible-in-november-and-hes-unlikely-to-ever-suit-up-for-johnnies/ (http://zagsblog.com/articles/ncaa-declared-st-johns-sanchez-ineligible-in-november-and-hes-unlikely-to-ever-suit-up-for-johnnies/)
This week is getting better and better.
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http://zagsblog.com/articles/ncaa-declared-st-johns-sanchez-ineligible-in-november-and-hes-unlikely-to-ever-suit-up-for-johnnies/ (http://zagsblog.com/articles/ncaa-declared-st-johns-sanchez-ineligible-in-november-and-hes-unlikely-to-ever-suit-up-for-johnnies/)
This week is getting better and better.
Your "Doomed" references put the horns on us Moose! Hope there is validity to that "Darkest hour before the dawn" crap!
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http://zagsblog.com/articles/ncaa-declared-st-johns-sanchez-ineligible-in-november-and-hes-unlikely-to-ever-suit-up-for-johnnies/ (http://zagsblog.com/articles/ncaa-declared-st-johns-sanchez-ineligible-in-november-and-hes-unlikely-to-ever-suit-up-for-johnnies/)
This week is getting better and better.
I hope thats not true. Makes gift redshirt look more ridiculous. Lets hope robbins knows more than zagoria.
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Am I the only one who is a little fed up with coach Lavin? His in game coaching is subpar in my opinion, and he supposedly is a good recruiter, yet in every class key players are always ruled ineligible. I'm not saying we should get rid of him or anything, but I think the honeymoon is now officially over, and he's got to start getting results with his own recruits on the court and off.
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Lavin is in some deep sh*t if he doesn't get Sanchez on the court.
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http://zagsblog.com/articles/ncaa-declared-st-johns-sanchez-ineligible-in-november-and-hes-unlikely-to-ever-suit-up-for-johnnies/ (http://zagsblog.com/articles/ncaa-declared-st-johns-sanchez-ineligible-in-november-and-hes-unlikely-to-ever-suit-up-for-johnnies/)
This week is getting better and better.
I hope thats not true. Makes gift redshirt look more ridiculous. Lets hope robbins knows more than zagoria.
Had same thought and tried contacting Lenn R. We'll see, but not optimistic.
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I know that the staff doesn't have to tell us anything, but if it is the true story, it pisses me off that we didn't know the details sooner.
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I know that the staff doesn't have to tell us anything, but if it the true story, it pisses me off that we didn't know the details sooner.
If Zags story true, why this recent Robbins article, obviously facilitated by someone from SJ BBall program?
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I know that the staff doesn't have to tell us anything, but if it is the true story, it pisses me off that we didn't know the details sooner.
If Zags story true, why this recent Robbins article, obviously facilitated by someone from SJ BBall program?
I'm hoping Zags got some bad info. If the staff is feeding Lenny totally shit info that just makes them look really bad.
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Lavin is in some deep sh*t if he doesn't get Sanchez on the court.
Why is he in deep s**t? It's not like this is a surprise. Makes Lawrence a absolutely must get.
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I know that the staff doesn't have to tell us anything, but if it is the true story, it pisses me off that we didn't know the details sooner.
If Zags story true, why this recent Robbins article, obviously facilitated by someone from SJ BBall program?
I'm hoping Zags got some bad info. If the staff is feeding Lenny totally shit info that just makes them look really bad.
Exactly
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Its not the crime, its the cover up that does you in.
We need a full scale investigatoryizing!
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I know that the staff doesn't have to tell us anything, but if it is the true story, it pisses me off that we didn't know the details sooner.
If Zags story true, why this recent Robbins article, obviously facilitated by someone from SJ BBall program?
I'm hoping Zags got some bad info. If the staff is feeding Lenny totally shit info that just makes them look really bad.
Len's story if i remember quoted someone from the STJ administration. Zag's quotes an outside source.
Given how all this has gone down, I tend to believe Zags. STJ has not been completely honest with this from the start.
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Lavin is in some deep sh*t if he doesn't get Sanchez on the court.
Why is he in deep s**t? It's not like this is a surprise. Makes Lawrence a absolutely must get.
He runs the show. He gets the credit when they win.
Lawrence is irrelevant. I don't give a crap. Aren't you getting tired of reading about recruits when most of them stink anyway, and the other half have some ridiculous eligibility issue?
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Just received this reply in response to validity of Zag's article;
“@STJ_Basketball: @rgsaunders1 Yes, our reaction is in the article and it is accurate and factual. #stjbb”
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Just received this reply in response to validity of Zag's article;
“@STJ_Basketball: @rgsaunders1 Yes, our reaction is in the article and it is accurate and factual. #stjbb”
That means the staff was not accurate and factual with the fans. That is wrong.
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Lavin is in some deep sh*t if he doesn't get Sanchez on the court.
Why is he in deep s**t? It's not like this is a surprise. Makes Lawrence a absolutely must get.
He runs the show. He gets the credit when they win.
Lawrence is irrelevant. I don't give a crap. Aren't you getting tired of reading about recruits when most of them stink anyway, and the other half have some ridiculous eligibility issue?
Not a pessimistic as you right now, when you have to recruit a lot of players at once, it's part of the game. I also don't think our players stink!
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Lavin is in some deep sh*t if he doesn't get Sanchez on the court.
Why is he in deep s**t? It's not like this is a surprise. Makes Lawrence a absolutely must get.
He runs the show. He gets the credit when they win.
Lawrence is irrelevant. I don't give a crap. Aren't you getting tired of reading about recruits when most of them stink anyway, and the other half have some ridiculous eligibility issue?
Not a pessimistic as you right now, when you have to recruit a lot of players at once, it's part of the game. I also don't think our players stink!
Well, Harrison doesn't.
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Lavin is in some deep sh*t if he doesn't get Sanchez on the court.
Why is he in deep s**t? It's not like this is a surprise. Makes Lawrence a absolutely must get.
He runs the show. He gets the credit when they win.
Lawrence is irrelevant. I don't give a crap. Aren't you getting tired of reading about recruits when most of them stink anyway, and the other half have some ridiculous eligibility issue?
Not a pessimistic as you right now, when you have to recruit a lot of players at once, it's part of the game. I also don't think our players stink!
Well, Harrison doesn't.
Depends what 'fans' you ask
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Lavin is in some deep sh*t if he doesn't get Sanchez on the court.
Why is he in deep s**t? It's not like this is a surprise. Makes Lawrence a absolutely must get.
He runs the show. He gets the credit when they win.
Lawrence is irrelevant. I don't give a crap. Aren't you getting tired of reading about recruits when most of them stink anyway, and the other half have some ridiculous eligibility issue?
Not a pessimistic as you right now, when you have to recruit a lot of players at once, it's part of the game. I also don't think our players stink!
Well, Harrison doesn't.
Depends what 'fans' you ask
What I don't understand why hold back the information on Sanchez, doesn't make much sense. What was to be gained?
I like a lot of our players but they are inexperienced as far as leadership goes, have to be patient not much choice.
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Lavin is in some deep sh*t if he doesn't get Sanchez on the court.
Why is he in deep s**t? It's not like this is a surprise. Makes Lawrence a absolutely must get.
He runs the show. He gets the credit when they win.
Lawrence is irrelevant. I don't give a crap. Aren't you getting tired of reading about recruits when most of them stink anyway, and the other half have some ridiculous eligibility issue?
Not a pessimistic as you right now, when you have to recruit a lot of players at once, it's part of the game. I also don't think our players stink!
Well, Harrison doesn't.
Depends what 'fans' you ask
What I don't understand why hold back the information on Sanchez, doesn't make much sense. What was to be gained?
I like a lot of our players but they are inexperienced as far as leadership goes, have to be patient not much choice.
Again to be fair certain things do not and still don't have to be revealed. There is a privacy issue. As for why they didn't come out and say he was ineligible to play and they were fighting it? I don't know. Maybe one of our 'esteemed' beat writers will ask him. (Don't hold your breath)
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Lavin is in some deep sh*t if he doesn't get Sanchez on the court.
Why is he in deep s**t? It's not like this is a surprise. Makes Lawrence a absolutely must get.
He runs the show. He gets the credit when they win.
Lawrence is irrelevant. I don't give a crap. Aren't you getting tired of reading about recruits when most of them stink anyway, and the other half have some ridiculous eligibility issue?
Not a pessimistic as you right now, when you have to recruit a lot of players at once, it's part of the game. I also don't think our players stink!
Well, Harrison doesn't.
Depends what 'fans' you ask
What I don't understand why hold back the information on Sanchez, doesn't make much sense. What was to be gained?
I like a lot of our players but they are inexperienced as far as leadership goes, have to be patient not much choice.
There are some things which we might hate, but they are what they are. Like Harkless bolting to
sit on the Magic bench. But if they knew that Sanchez wasn't going to play, why sit Gift? I don't buy this bs about him not being needed. At least he's an adult. And if the staff isn't going to show an ounce of leadership, someone should.
Gift is serviceable. He's not great by any means, but we need him.
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If we knew in November orlando wasnt gonna be eligible then why was orlando still on our bench until before the holidays, hopefully robbins has some info from someone that would change the NCAAs mind about it but I doubt it. I think Robbins was the one who said MoMo Jones was a lock for transfering to STJ. This really sucks we needed his presence downlow, Lavin needs to put in Gift now for Big East play.
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If we knew in November orlando wasnt gonna be eligible then why was orlando still on our bench until before the holidays, hopefully robbins has some info from someone that would change the NCAAs mind about it but I doubt it. I think Robbins was the one who said MoMo Jones was a lock for transfering to STJ. This really sucks we needed his presence downlow, Lavin needs to put in Gift now for Big East play.
Because they are trying to get the NCAA to change the outcome. Like Bazz on UCLA was ineligible but still around. And again it needs to be stressed the kid is eligible academically.
We can't start saying Lenn said this and was right vs. wrong. They have all been right. They have all been wrong. Zags, Lenn, Rubin, etc....
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Like Choz says the coverup is worse then the crime. Lavin , in Nov, made it sound like it was a classification problem.IMO . he should have been more forthright w us then . RE. Gift I think Lavin should not have redshirted him , but at this point might as well wait till next year.
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I think we play Gift this year and hope Lavin can recruit another big better than Gift for next year.
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This board is funny sometimes. People are freaking out and this thing is still ongoing. Call me when it's officially done.
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This board is funny sometimes. People are freaking out and this thing is still ongoing. Call me when it's officially done.
We are 8-5. People have a right to be angry.
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Lavin is in some deep sh*t if he doesn't get Sanchez on the court.
Why is he in deep s**t? It's not like this is a surprise. Makes Lawrence a absolutely must get.
He runs the show. He gets the credit when they win.
Lawrence is irrelevant. I don't give a crap. Aren't you getting tired of reading about recruits when most of them stink anyway, and the other half have some ridiculous eligibility issue?
Not a pessimistic as you right now, when you have to recruit a lot of players at once, it's part of the game. I also don't think our players stink!
Well, Harrison doesn't.
Depends what 'fans' you ask
What I don't understand why hold back the information on Sanchez, doesn't make much sense. What was to be gained?
I like a lot of our players but they are inexperienced as far as leadership goes, have to be patient not much choice.
There are some things which we might hate, but they are what they are. Like Harkless bolting to
sit on the Magic bench. But if they knew that Sanchez wasn't going to play, why sit Gift? I don't buy this bs about him not being needed. At least he's an adult. And if the staff isn't going to show an ounce of leadership, someone should.
Gift is serviceable. He's not great by any means, but we need him.
agree with you on Gift, we need a big now, next year will take care of itself, hopefully
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Lavin is in some deep sh*t if he doesn't get Sanchez on the court.
Why is he in deep s**t? It's not like this is a surprise. Makes Lawrence a absolutely must get.
He runs the show. He gets the credit when they win.
Lawrence is irrelevant. I don't give a crap. Aren't you getting tired of reading about recruits when most of them stink anyway, and the other half have some ridiculous eligibility issue?
Not a pessimistic as you right now, when you have to recruit a lot of players at once, it's part of the game. I also don't think our players stink!
Well, Harrison doesn't.
Depends what 'fans' you ask
What I don't understand why hold back the information on Sanchez, doesn't make much sense. What was to be gained?
I like a lot of our players but they are inexperienced as far as leadership goes, have to be patient not much choice.
There are some things which we might hate, but they are what they are. Like Harkless bolting to
sit on the Magic bench. But if they knew that Sanchez wasn't going to play, why sit Gift? I don't buy this bs about him not being needed. At least he's an adult. And if the staff isn't going to show an ounce of leadership, someone should.
Gift is serviceable. He's not great by any means, but we need him.
agree with you on Gift, we need a big now, next year will take care of itself, hopefully
It's always next year with this disgraceful program.
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This board is funny sometimes. People are freaking out and this thing is still ongoing. Call me when it's officially done.
I believe the Zags article. As far as Im concerned it is done and Sanchez will not wear a SJU uniform. I could be wrong, but I doubt it.
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Lavin is in some deep sh*t if he doesn't get Sanchez on the court.
Why is he in deep s**t? It's not like this is a surprise. Makes Lawrence a absolutely must get.
He runs the show. He gets the credit when they win.
Lawrence is irrelevant. I don't give a crap. Aren't you getting tired of reading about recruits when most of them stink anyway, and the other half have some ridiculous eligibility issue?
Not a pessimistic as you right now, when you have to recruit a lot of players at once, it's part of the game. I also don't think our players stink!
Well, Harrison doesn't.
Depends what 'fans' you ask
What I don't understand why hold back the information on Sanchez, doesn't make much sense. What was to be gained?
I like a lot of our players but they are inexperienced as far as leadership goes, have to be patient not much choice.
There are some things which we might hate, but they are what they are. Like Harkless bolting to
sit on the Magic bench. But if they knew that Sanchez wasn't going to play, why sit Gift? I don't buy this bs about him not being needed. At least he's an adult. And if the staff isn't going to show an ounce of leadership, someone should.
Gift is serviceable. He's not great by any means, but we need him.
agree with you on Gift, we need a big now, next year will take care of itself, hopefully
It's always next year with this disgraceful program.
Then why don't you follow some other team.
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This does not surprise me one bit.
The one thing that annoys me however, is if the staff knew in the fall that they'd only get one year from Sanchez, and then realized probably none at all.... why the f&ck are we still not recruiting any big men?
Freshmen, JUCOs, transfers .. I don't care. 2013, 2014.. whenever. Just somebody, eventually, who is over 6'9 and not rail thin.
And don't say it's because they knew they could save Gift for next year. God's Gift is less of a rebounder than Sampson, Obekpa, or Garrett. That's a fact if you look at their rebounding numbers. I don't know why everyone presumes he could help right now.
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Ive asked myself the same question. Even Pelle was rail thin. We need a 6 9 + big with some brawn and rebounding skills. Doesnt have to be a 4 star.Ill take a 3 star or JC. Even if he doesnt start,there are times we need somebody like that just to nuetrilize an opponent.
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Like Choz says the coverup is worse then the crime. Lavin , in Nov, made it sound like it was a classification problem.IMO . he should have been more forthright w us then . RE. Gift I think Lavin should not have redshirted him , but at this point might as well wait till next year.
Oh I was just bein all sarcastic and such.
Think y'all is makin mountains over molehills.
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Like Choz says the coverup is worse then the crime. Lavin , in Nov, made it sound like it was a classification problem.IMO . he should have been more forthright w us then . RE. Gift I think Lavin should not have redshirted him , but at this point might as well wait till next year.
Oh I was just bein all sarcastic and such.
Think y'all is makin mountains over molehills.
Maybe Lavin was figuring this wasnt going to be the year we take that huge step? Gift with another year under his belt could pay huge dividends next season when we make that push
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Orlandito Mates (Facebook)
Segun esto en algunos dias ya me podran ver en action con Dios por delante voy a regresar a lo que mas me gusta hacer
Translation: According to this (NYPOST Article) in a few day you'll be able to see me in action. With God leading, I'll be doing what I love most.
Orlandito Mates: ellos dicen que en esta semana ya
Translation: They're saying this is the week.
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hopefully Orlando is not in the dark with his own situation.
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I hope he isnt basing his enthuisiam on the Post article.
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I hope he isnt basing his enthuisiam on the Post article.
Or feeling too confident about feedback from folks at SJU who fed Lenn the material.
I obviously hope I'm wrong.
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Pretty sure Orlando isn't waiting for his morning paper to figure out his future. Sounds like this saga isn't over. Lenn Robbins vs Zags. Hope Lenn wins this one and same for Orlando.
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Pretty sure Orlando isn't waiting for his morning paper to figure out his future. Sounds like this saga isn't over. Lenn Robbins vs Zags. Hope Lenn wins this one and same for Orlando.
Let's hope so. I gave up hope on good news about him.
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ZERO confidence in who told me this but the rumor floating around is he will be signing a contract to play professionally abroad in the next 10 days if he is not cleared by then. I have no idea how he could broker such a deal wothout an agent which would make him ineligable anyway but after reading that face book post im just throwing it out there.
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ZERO confidence in who told me this but the rumor floating around is he will be signing a contract to play professionally abroad in the next 10 days if he is not cleared by then. I have no idea how he could broker such a deal wothout an agent which would make him ineligable anyway but after reading that face book post im just throwing it out there.
I feel really bad for this kid. NCAA is disgusting. And it's not even because I'm a SJU fan, it's because this kid has been through enough and deserves to play college ball if he wants to.
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ZERO confidence in who told me this but the rumor floating around is he will be signing a contract to play professionally abroad in the next 10 days if he is not cleared by then. I have no idea how he could broker such a deal wothout an agent which would make him ineligable anyway but after reading that face book post im just throwing it out there.
My guess is that is around the time he would have to withdraw from classes. Normally a week or so into the semester.
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Facebook
Orlandito Mates:
Listo para regresar al deporte que mas me gusta mi gente.
Translation: ready to return to the sport I love the most, my people.
Friend: cuando tienes juego Orlando?
Translation: when do you have a game Orlando?
Orlando: si me aceptan el miercoles por espn
Translatio : if I'm cleared Wednesday on espn
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Facebook
Orlandito Mates:
Listo para regresar al deporte que mas me gusta mi gente.
Translation: ready to return to the sport I love the most, my people.
Friend: cuando tienes juego Orlando?
Translation: when do you have a game Orlando?
Orlando: si me aceptan el miercoles por espn
Translatio : if I'm cleared Wednesday on espn
It seems very clear to me. Does the NCAA have compassion?
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Facebook
Orlandito Mates:
Listo para regresar al deporte que mas me gusta mi gente.
Translation: ready to return to the sport I love the most, my people.
Friend: cuando tienes juego Orlando?
Translation: when do you have a game Orlando?
Orlando: si me aceptan el miercoles por espn
Translatio : if I'm cleared Wednesday on espn
It seems very clear to me. Does the NCAA have compassion?
Seems like he's expecting a decision very soon
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ZERO confidence in who told me this but the rumor floating around is he will be signing a contract to play professionally abroad in the next 10 days if he is not cleared by then. I have no idea how he could broker such a deal wothout an agent which would make him ineligable anyway but after reading that face book post im just throwing it out there.
My guess is that is around the time he would have to withdraw from classes. Normally a week or so into the semester.
The last day to drop a class is February 12th. The semester doesn't start until January 23rd.
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My question is when did he post that on his facebook? He obviously posted it after the Lenn article but was it before or after the zags article? The zags article makes it seem like the decision by the NCAA has already been made so if Orlando posted this before the Zags article it really means nothing. If however it was posted after the zags article then there could still be a chance.
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Zagoria is going to look really bad if Sanchez get cleared.
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Zagoria is going to look really bad if Sanchez get cleared.
He looks bad regardless.. you ever see that hairstyle he rocks? ;D
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Happy,
He still has my basketball lol jk.
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Facebook
Orlandito Mates:
Listo para regresar al deporte que mas me gusta mi gente.
Translation: ready to return to the sport I love the most, my people.
Friend: cuando tienes juego Orlando?
Translation: when do you have a game Orlando?
Orlando: si me aceptan el miercoles por espn
Translatio : if I'm cleared Wednesday on espn
It seems very clear to me. Does the NCAA have compassion?
No
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What is Zagoria's track record like in these kinds of predictions?
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What is Zagoria's track record like in these kinds of predictions?
The same as Lenn's.
Win some
Lose some
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What is Zagoria's track record like in these kinds of predictions?
The same as Lenn's.
Win some
Lose some
Both steps below Baldi
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When have you ever had a scoop??????? PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Telling us White Castle now has chicken rings doesn't count!
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When have you ever had a scoop??????? PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Telling us White Castle now has chicken rings doesn't count!
Holy Shite that cracked me up
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When have you ever had a scoop??????? PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Telling us White Castle now has chicken rings doesn't count!
They got Chicken rings?
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When have you ever had a scoop??????? PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Telling us White Castle now has chicken rings doesn't count!
They got Chicken rings?
Not sure if they are on the menu now but I've had them there before and they are awesome
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feelin a decision tomorrow
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feelin a decision tomorrow
If by some chance we get Orlando cleared, we can really get this thing rolling... I don't want to get excited just to be let down, but crossing my fingers hoping. Several well paced sources seem to think we may get him on the court. Would be amazing for him and SJU.
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positive vibes, Lets get Orlando!
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“@STJ_Basketball: Paging @jcred03! We need you in #STJTV Headquarters ASAP! Big #STJTV announcement coming today! #stjbb” ??
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“@STJ_Basketball: Paging @jcred03! We need you in #STJTV Headquarters ASAP! Big #STJTV announcement coming today! #stjbb” ??
I need some good news today.
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“@STJ_Basketball: Paging @jcred03! We need you in #STJTV Headquarters ASAP! Big #STJTV announcement coming today! #stjbb” ??
I need some good news today.
Hopefully it's an announcement they are making on STJTV (hopefully Orlando), rather than an announcement about STJTV.
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“@STJ_Basketball: Paging @jcred03! We need you in #STJTV Headquarters ASAP! Big #STJTV announcement coming today! #stjbb” ??
I need some good news today.
Hopefully it's an announcement they are making on STJTV (hopefully Orlando), rather than an announcement about STJTV.
Or SJU hiring Tony Sparano as consultant for offense.
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At What time?
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After reading the tweet again, I get the feeling it is about St Johns TV :(
Hope I am wrong
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Probably right Ted. Put it in this section out of sheer desperation. ( maybe )
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Maybe replacement for O'toole? I am praying about Sanchez though!!! Would be to good to be true.
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Nothing about Orlando for now I guess. St. John's Signs deal with ESPN3.
http://www.redstormsports.com/genrel/010813aaa.html (http://www.redstormsports.com/genrel/010813aaa.html)
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My God when is this Sanchez saga goin to end? Closure please!
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If you believe Zagoria - its over and has been for months.
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If you believe Zagoria - its over and has been for months.
PMG,what do you know? You're a diehard Seton Hall fan.
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“@KieranDarcy: Also, Steve Lavin said there was no update on the eligibility status of Orlando Sanchez”
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“@KieranDarcy: Also, Steve Lavin said there was no update on the eligibility status of Orlando Sanchez”
In other news the sky is blue haha
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“@KieranDarcy: Also, Steve Lavin said there was no update on the eligibility status of Orlando Sanchez”
In other news the sky is blue haha
What more do you want? We announced the signing of a new TV deal. I'm beaming just from that. What a day!
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“@KieranDarcy: Also, Steve Lavin said there was no update on the eligibility status of Orlando Sanchez”
In other news the sky is blue haha
And apparently White Castle has chicken rings
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“@KieranDarcy: Also, Steve Lavin said there was no update on the eligibility status of Orlando Sanchez”
In other news the sky is blue haha
And apparently White Castle has chicken rings
Hysterical Marco!
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And apparently White Castle has chicken rings
Yes, you should try them. Great on a drunken night!!!!!!!!
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Orlando shooting warm ups w Hooper.
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Will this ever end? Maybe we get him for the big east tourney
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Dude is still here waiting.
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What is the NCAA doing? I smell a lawsuit!
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Why would Lavin keep saying there's no update if that early January story was true that it was already decided he was ineligible...
Then again, it's the middle of January, it's insane that they'd take this long, especially for a senior.
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I think it's worth remembering that about a week ago '79 posted that he heard from a source Orlando would sign overseas if he wasn't cleared within a week or so.
Except for the KA thing, 79 usually has good info. Although I think he said this source wasn't 100% reliable. Still, that doesn't mean it's not true.
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I think it's worth remembering that about a week ago '79 posted that he heard from a source Orlando would sign overseas if he wasn't cleared within a week or so.
Except for the KA thing, 79 usually has good info. Although I think he said this source wasn't 100% reliable. Still, that doesn't mean it's not true.
I would imagine that Jan 23 will be D-Day for Orlando, can't see him starting up classes if he can't play.
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I think it's worth remembering that about a week ago '79 posted that he heard from a source Orlando would sign overseas if he wasn't cleared within a week or so.
Except for the KA thing, 79 usually has good info. Although I think he said this source wasn't 100% reliable. Still, that doesn't mean it's not true.
I would imagine that Jan 23 will be D-Day for Orlando, can't see him starting up classes if he can't play.
+1
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from his facebook. pretty much says he's seeking new opportunities:
En el poco tiempo que llevo de vida eh aprendido que las oportunidades hay que aprovecharlas y no dejarlas ir, lo malo es cuando la coges y por razones de la vida gente sin conocerte te la quieren quitar y no dejarte desarollar el talento que Dios te da. Lo bueno es seguir luchando sin parar y tratar de buscar un nuevo camino en el cual puedas triufar y hacer lo que en realidad quieres. Dios gracias por todo lo que me as dado pero ya es hora de hacer otro camino para realizar mi sueno.
In the short time that I've been alive, I've learned that you need to take advantage of opportunities and not let them go. The bad thing is that when you take those opportunities and for reasons of life, people that don't even know you want to take them away and not let you evolve a talent God has given you. The good thing is to keep fighting non-stop and try to find a new path in which you can succeed and do what you want. God, thank you for everything you've given me, but it's time to find a new path to realize my dreams.
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that sucks
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That facebook post from today redmen4life?
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That facebook post from today redmen4life?
yes.
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If he can't play he should try and follow his dreams somewhere else. Sucks for St. John's and him but he has to do what he has to do.
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So the second semester started today, did Sanchez start class..?
Looks like someone fed Lenn Robbins a line of BS and that Zagoria had this good sources on this one...
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Looks like someone fed Lenn Robbins a line of BS
Norm had him convinced he was a good coach and I convinced him I was Walter Berry at that BEB gathering.
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So the second semester started today, did Sanchez start class..?
Looks like someone fed Lenn Robbins a line of BS and that Zagoria had this good sources on this one...
He was practicing yesterday. He can still attend classes. Won't affect anything really.
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Says it all! This relates to internal investigative mistakes in Miami investigation.
“@JayBilas: NCAA expects to wrap of its investigation of itself in 7 to 10 days. Funny how fast NCAA can work when it really wants to.”
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Says it all! This relates to internal investigative mistakes in Miami investigation.
“@JayBilas: NCAA expects to wrap of its investigation of itself in 7 to 10 days. Funny how fast NCAA can work when it really wants to.”
Unbelievable stuff and my boys down there have had to endure this nonsense for 2 years.
Miami self imposed scholarship bans and prohibited itself from Bowls the last two seasons in anticipation of NCAA penalties.
From what I am told the NCAA is prepared at this point in light of this new development to accept what Miami has done and close the book.
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Anybody know if Orlando was behind the bench last night for the Rutgers game?
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Anybody know if Orlando was behind the bench last night for the Rutgers game?
He hasn't been traveling with the team. Wish I knew more.
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Anybody know if Orlando was behind the bench last night for the Rutgers game?
He hasn't been traveling with the team. Wish I knew more.
He can't travel with the team as long as he has not been cleared. That is just a general rule.
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Anybody know if Orlando was behind the bench last night for the Rutgers game?
He hasn't been traveling with the team. Wish I knew more.
He can't travel with the team as long as he has not been cleared. That is just a general rule.
Correct
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http://www.rumbleinthegarden.com/st-johns-red-storm-mens-basketball/2013/1/24/3903900/orlando-sanchez-ineligible-age-spain-hellin (http://www.rumbleinthegarden.com/st-johns-red-storm-mens-basketball/2013/1/24/3903900/orlando-sanchez-ineligible-age-spain-hellin)
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http://www.rumbleinthegarden.com/st-johns-red-storm-mens-basketball/2013/1/24/3903900/orlando-sanchez-ineligible-age-spain-hellin (http://www.rumbleinthegarden.com/st-johns-red-storm-mens-basketball/2013/1/24/3903900/orlando-sanchez-ineligible-age-spain-hellin)
Really amazing people are just picking up on this stuff now.
Googled this at the beginning of the year and its not hard to find.
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http://www.rumbleinthegarden.com/st-johns-red-storm-mens-basketball/2013/1/24/3903900/orlando-sanchez-ineligible-age-spain-hellin (http://www.rumbleinthegarden.com/st-johns-red-storm-mens-basketball/2013/1/24/3903900/orlando-sanchez-ineligible-age-spain-hellin)
Really amazing people are just picking up on this stuff now.
Googled this at the beginning of the year and its not hard to find.
Yep
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These foreign kids are tough sometimes especially at his age. If it is not their transcripts it is that they may have played some pro ball overseas that may compromise their amateur status.
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http://www.rumbleinthegarden.com/st-johns-red-storm-mens-basketball/2013/1/24/3903900/orlando-sanchez-ineligible-age-spain-hellin (http://www.rumbleinthegarden.com/st-johns-red-storm-mens-basketball/2013/1/24/3903900/orlando-sanchez-ineligible-age-spain-hellin)
Really amazing people are just picking up on this stuff now.
Googled this at the beginning of the year and its not hard to find.
What's even more amazing is that our mainstream beat writers don't take the time or effort to do the same. And if they do it's equally sad that it goes unreported.
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http://www.rumbleinthegarden.com/st-johns-red-storm-mens-basketball/2013/1/24/3903900/orlando-sanchez-ineligible-age-spain-hellin (http://www.rumbleinthegarden.com/st-johns-red-storm-mens-basketball/2013/1/24/3903900/orlando-sanchez-ineligible-age-spain-hellin)
Really amazing people are just picking up on this stuff now.
Googled this at the beginning of the year and its not hard to find.
What's even more amazing is that our mainstream beat writers don't take the time or effort to do the same. And if they do it's equally sad that it goes unreported.
Agreed. But also we know they don't ever ask the hard charging questions. Bunch of creampuff writers
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http://www.rumbleinthegarden.com/st-johns-red-storm-mens-basketball/2013/1/24/3903900/orlando-sanchez-ineligible-age-spain-hellin (http://www.rumbleinthegarden.com/st-johns-red-storm-mens-basketball/2013/1/24/3903900/orlando-sanchez-ineligible-age-spain-hellin)
Really amazing people are just picking up on this stuff now.
Googled this at the beginning of the year and its not hard to find.
What's even more amazing is that our mainstream beat writers don't take the time or effort to do the same. And if they do it's equally sad that it goes unreported.
Agreed. But also we know they don't ever ask the hard charging questions. Bunch of creampuff writers
Can't bite the hand that feeds you.
I'm not saying it's right, but if they are too critical of the program then they don't get access or those personal interest stories... like D'angelo visiting his brother in jail, the piece about Jones's challenges this year, etc etc. They have half their columns written for them, because the staff and athletic department give them these puff piece profiles.
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http://www.rumbleinthegarden.com/st-johns-red-storm-mens-basketball/2013/1/24/3903900/orlando-sanchez-ineligible-age-spain-hellin (http://www.rumbleinthegarden.com/st-johns-red-storm-mens-basketball/2013/1/24/3903900/orlando-sanchez-ineligible-age-spain-hellin)
Really amazing people are just picking up on this stuff now.
Googled this at the beginning of the year and its not hard to find.
What's even more amazing is that our mainstream beat writers don't take the time or effort to do the same. And if they do it's equally sad that it goes unreported.
Agreed. But also we know they don't ever ask the hard charging questions. Bunch of creampuff writers
Can't bite the hand that feeds you.
I'm not saying it's right, but if they are too critical of the program then they don't get access or those personal interest stories... like D'angelo visiting his brother in jail, the piece about Jones's challenges this year, etc etc. They have half their columns written for them, because the staff and athletic department give them these puff piece profiles.
How is that any different from the media who hounds professional team managers. Is it because Lavin is coaching a college team? I'm sure if I looked into more rabid markets like Alabama media and Saban or Kentucky and Calipari they ask hard charging questions.
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http://www.rumbleinthegarden.com/st-johns-red-storm-mens-basketball/2013/1/24/3903900/orlando-sanchez-ineligible-age-spain-hellin (http://www.rumbleinthegarden.com/st-johns-red-storm-mens-basketball/2013/1/24/3903900/orlando-sanchez-ineligible-age-spain-hellin)
Really amazing people are just picking up on this stuff now.
Googled this at the beginning of the year and its not hard to find.
What's even more amazing is that our mainstream beat writers don't take the time or effort to do the same. And if they do it's equally sad that it goes unreported.
Agreed. But also we know they don't ever ask the hard charging questions. Bunch of creampuff writers
Can't bite the hand that feeds you.
I'm not saying it's right, but if they are too critical of the program then they don't get access or those personal interest stories... like D'angelo visiting his brother in jail, the piece about Jones's challenges this year, etc etc. They have half their columns written for them, because the staff and athletic department give them these puff piece profiles.
But doing an article with information that can be pretty easily found with a Google search isn't "critical of the program." There's nothing really critical about the program in this article, all it does is shed possible new light on what's behind this case.
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Assume staff did due diligence and "googled" info referenced about OS play in Spain. Just saying!
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Assume staff did due diligence and "googled" info referenced about OS play in Spain. Just saying!
Sorry but I can't help but wonder the opposite.
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Assume staff did due diligence and "googled" info referenced about OS play in Spain. Just saying!
Sorry but I can't help but wonder the opposite.
Was being sarcastic. Wondering as well.
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Assume staff did due diligence and "googled" info referenced about OS play in Spain. Just saying!
Sorry but I can't help but wonder the opposite.
Was being sarcastic. Wondering as well.
Gotta work on that sarcasm bud ;)
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Assume staff did due diligence and "googled" info referenced about OS play in Spain. Just saying!
Sorry but I can't help but wonder the opposite.
Yea, I gotta wonder as well. I'm not saying they didn't.
But maybe there was a reason more teams were not pursuing Orlando. It's not like he was an unknown. Calipari was his coach on the Dominican National team.
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Assume staff did due diligence and "googled" info referenced about OS play in Spain. Just saying!
Sorry but I can't help but wonder the opposite.
Was being sarcastic. Wondering as well.
Gotta work on that sarcasm bud ;)
Think I know a tutor.
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Assume staff did due diligence and "googled" info referenced about OS play in Spain. Just saying!
Sorry but I can't help but wonder the opposite.
Was being sarcastic. Wondering as well.
Gotta work on that sarcasm bud ;)
Think I know a tutor.
You're doomed.
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http://www.rumbleinthegarden.com/st-johns-red-storm-mens-basketball/2013/1/24/3903900/orlando-sanchez-ineligible-age-spain-hellin (http://www.rumbleinthegarden.com/st-johns-red-storm-mens-basketball/2013/1/24/3903900/orlando-sanchez-ineligible-age-spain-hellin)
Really amazing people are just picking up on this stuff now.
Googled this at the beginning of the year and its not hard to find.
It's been known but not something I thought deserved more attention.
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http://www.rumbleinthegarden.com/st-johns-red-storm-mens-basketball/2013/1/24/3903900/orlando-sanchez-ineligible-age-spain-hellin (http://www.rumbleinthegarden.com/st-johns-red-storm-mens-basketball/2013/1/24/3903900/orlando-sanchez-ineligible-age-spain-hellin)
Really amazing people are just picking up on this stuff now.
Googled this at the beginning of the year and its not hard to find.
It's been known but not something I thought deserved more attention.
Agreed. But I'm surprised nobody in the media picked up on it sooner. I wouldnt wave a flag showing he played there and brought on unwanted attention but its not exactly like top secret. I remember looking myself early in the year to see what I came up with and took me 5 minutes tops. Sure if I had sources I could have dug deeper but I don't and therefore didnt.
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If Sanchez isn't eligible to play, why is he still with us?
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In fairness to Lenn he googled the name sanchez and spain but got overwhelmed with the results and gave up. If Orlando played in a league in China I think Lenn might have been on top of the story
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Do you think Dave would have gotten the the inside info about Dom being team leader if he had run with the Orlando news? (Insert "sarcasm" smiley here)
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If Sanchez isn't eligible to play, why is he still with us?
Why not? Initially it was because he hoped an appeal may overturn his initial decision. That takes awhile.
But at this point if he is allowed to stay on schollie and he wants to keep going to class and it is not like SJU is going to use the schollie on someone else mid-season who does it hurt?
Keep in mind this is not an academic issue where he goes back to a prep school or JUCO to gain eligibility. If he was deemed to have compromised his amateur status then it doesn't matter what school he goes to at this point.
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If Sanchez isn't eligible to play, why is he still with us?
Why not? Initially it was because he hoped an appeal may overturn his initial decision. That takes awhile.
But at this point if he is allowed to stay on schollie and he wants to keep going to class and it is not like SJU is going to use the schollie on someone else mid-season who does it hurt?
Keep in mind this is not an academic issue where he goes back to a prep school or JUCO to gain eligibility. If he was deemed to have compromised his amateur status then it doesn't matter what school he goes to at this point.
Think the question is, how can he still BE on schollie if the NCAA has (as the story indicated) ruled him ineligible? Schollies can't be funded for ineligible players. Still here only makes sense if there HASN'T been a declaration of ineligibility, and an ongoing investigation. And no, an appeal does NOT allow the scholie to be funded. We know this well from Lavin's experidence with McD AA Evan Burns in 2002, and our 3 frosh last year....
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If Sanchez isn't eligible to play, why is he still with us?
Why not? Initially it was because he hoped an appeal may overturn his initial decision. That takes awhile.
But at this point if he is allowed to stay on schollie and he wants to keep going to class and it is not like SJU is going to use the schollie on someone else mid-season who does it hurt?
Keep in mind this is not an academic issue where he goes back to a prep school or JUCO to gain eligibility. If he was deemed to have compromised his amateur status then it doesn't matter what school he goes to at this point.
Think the question is, how can he still BE on schollie if the NCAA has (as the story indicated) ruled him ineligible? Schollies can't be funded for ineligible players. Still here only makes sense if there HASN'T been a declaration of ineligibility, and an ongoing investigation. And no, an appeal does NOT allow the scholie to be funded. We know this well from Lavin's experidence with McD AA Evan Burns in 2002, and our 3 frosh last year....
I don't think that is 100% true. When Glover was going thru his ordeal at SHU where he was deemed ineligible and SHU appealed he was allowed to stay on scholarship and even practice. Again I believe you need an NCAA waiver for this.
I think Enes Kanter was allowed to stay on schollie at UK.
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If Sanchez isn't eligible to play, why is he still with us?
Why not? Initially it was because he hoped an appeal may overturn his initial decision. That takes awhile.
But at this point if he is allowed to stay on schollie and he wants to keep going to class and it is not like SJU is going to use the schollie on someone else mid-season who does it hurt?
Keep in mind this is not an academic issue where he goes back to a prep school or JUCO to gain eligibility. If he was deemed to have compromised his amateur status then it doesn't matter what school he goes to at this point.
If he cares about his academics enough to partake in them, more power to him. I assumed he'd take off once it was set in stone that he isn't suiting up. My point was to suggest that maybe this isn't over yet.
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If Sanchez isn't eligible to play, why is he still with us?
Why not? Initially it was because he hoped an appeal may overturn his initial decision. That takes awhile.
But at this point if he is allowed to stay on schollie and he wants to keep going to class and it is not like SJU is going to use the schollie on someone else mid-season who does it hurt?
Keep in mind this is not an academic issue where he goes back to a prep school or JUCO to gain eligibility. If he was deemed to have compromised his amateur status then it doesn't matter what school he goes to at this point.
If he cares about his academics enough to partake in them, more power to him. I assumed he'd take off once it was set in stone that he isn't suiting up. My point was to suggest that maybe this isn't over yet.
I know and my guess is assuming he is allowed to practice it allows him to hone his skills and get an education while he contemplates his next move.
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You can give a scholarship to anyone you want.
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You can give a scholarship to anyone you want.
yyeeeep...
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i think we can officially put the Sanchez story to rest:
from his FB:
Bueno ya mi vida esta cambiando retirado del basket por un tiempo mi gente es hora de estudiar.
Well, my life is changing. Retiring from basketball for a while. It's time to study.
sounds like he will take advantage of his scholly to concentrate on school.
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Guess it's OS fwiw?
@SammyAlbano: What current Juco banned by @NCAA has hired a lawyer to fight 4 eligibilty+damages? Word has it @NCAA may be rethinking its decision!
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been waiting for this! :crazy2:
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No Sanchez behind the bench tonight.
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But was on the big screen for certain SJU promo's during timeouts, ha.
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But was on the big screen for certain SJU promo's during timeouts, ha.
There in spirit :)
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some people from the monroe college athletic department had tix to the game and i'm told he sat with them.
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In the end, it looks like Lenn Robbins was fed a line of BS from the school and Zags had the story nailed.
The schools handling of this situation is a little embarrassing. I am sure there are limits on what they can say due to privacy concerns but they could have been somewhat honest with the fan base.
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In the end, it looks like Lenn Robbins was fed a line of BS from the school and Zags had the story nailed.
The schools handling of this situation is a little embarrassing. I am sure there are limits on what they can say due to privacy concerns but they could have been somewhat honest with the fan base.
Absolutely on point! Poorly handled! That Lenn piece SJU planted was a disgrace and subsequent silence disconcerting.
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In the end, it looks like Lenn Robbins was fed a line of BS from the school and Zags had the story nailed.
The schools handling of this situation is a little embarrassing. I am sure there are limits on what they can say due to privacy concerns but they could have been somewhat honest with the fan base.
Absolutely on point! Poorly handled! That Lenn piece SJU planted was a disgrace and subsequent silence disconcerting.
Unless they both had sources inside the program and perhaps Lenn jumped the gun or miss interpreted what his sources told him or were trying to say.
Keep in mind similar thing happened with Momo Jones. Lenn point blank said in an article he was transferring to SJU. There were other hurdles that needed to be overcome and eventually were not so my guess is Lenn only got half the story or chose not to follow up.
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In the end, it looks like Lenn Robbins was fed a line of BS from the school and Zags had the story nailed.
The schools handling of this situation is a little embarrassing. I am sure there are limits on what they can say due to privacy concerns but they could have been somewhat honest with the fan base.
Right on target as usual. ;)
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Positive outcome or not for Snachez - Robbins was still given a complete and total line of BS from someoner at the school.
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Positive outcome or not for Snachez - Robbins was still given a complete and total line of BS from someoner at the school.
Can't argue with that.
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not sure if this has been posted before, but this appears to be the best video highlights of Orlando's game. His passing ability stands out to me.
Orlando Sanchez gonbadraft.com highlights (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqE5n66vY8Q#ws)
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I don't think most writers realize how good he can be, which is why we may end up being ranked much higher than we'll likely be given credit for in preseason polls. His passing and rebounding will add a lot to this team, and he may be able to chip in one to two blocks as well. Rysheed and D'Lo will get a lot of open looks after kick outs.
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I don't think most writers realize how good he can be, which is why we may end up being ranked much higher than we'll likely be given credit for in preseason polls. His passing and rebounding will add a lot to this team, and he may be able to chip in one to two blocks as well. Rysheed and D'Lo will get a lot of open looks after kick outs.
Absolutely, two of our biggest weaknesses last year were not having a point guard who could break down the defense or a big man who was skilled offensively. Looks like we have gone a long way in fixing both of those.
As excited as I am to see Rysheed, I'm equally excited to see Orlando.
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I don't think most writers realize how good he can be, which is why we may end up being ranked much higher than we'll likely be given credit for in preseason polls. His passing and rebounding will add a lot to this team, and he may be able to chip in one to two blocks as well. Rysheed and D'Lo will get a lot of open looks after kick outs.
Absolutely, two of our biggest weaknesses last year were not having a point guard who could break down the defense or a big man who was skilled offensively. Looks like we have gone a long way in fixing both of those.
As excited as I am to see Rysheed, I'm equally excited to see Orlando.
Rebounding should get better as well, and really, the third main issue was outside shooting... i really really hope all the wings/guards have been working like crazy on their jumpers. If the jump shot has improved we'll crush a lot of teams based on that + what you've discussed above.
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I don't think most writers realize how good he can be, which is why we may end up being ranked much higher than we'll likely be given credit for in preseason polls. His passing and rebounding will add a lot to this team, and he may be able to chip in one to two blocks as well. Rysheed and D'Lo will get a lot of open looks after kick outs.
Absolutely, two of our biggest weaknesses last year were not having a point guard who could break down the defense or a big man who was skilled offensively. Looks like we have gone a long way in fixing both of those.
As excited as I am to see Rysheed, I'm equally excited to see Orlando.
Rebounding should get better as well, and really, the third main issue was outside shooting... i really really hope all the wings/guards have been working like crazy on their jumpers. If the jump shot has improved we'll crush a lot of teams based on that + what you've discussed above.
Shooting was definitely the number 1 weakness and I hope it improves and it should with added pieces and practice. With that said, if you cant shoot you better be able to get to the rim and have an inside presence.
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I wonder what position he will start at. I think he should spend most of his time at the forward spots, but he will spend some time at the five. Think he will be a match up nightmare for opposing teams.
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I wonder what position he will start at. I think he should spend most of his time at the forward spots, but he will spend some time at the five. Think he will be a match up nightmare for opposing teams.
I think he starts at center, with Sampson at PF and Pointer at SF. I think it helps both recruiting and Sampson if he gets time at SF, so when Obekpa comes in Sanchez and Sampson slide down a spot.
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How many 6'9" PF's can do what Sanchez does even looks at those vids? Will be exciting to have a versatile forward like that up front.
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Two interesting early season Primo stats:
Orlando Sanchez has taken 8/18 (44%) of his shots from beyond the arc. He's shot 2/8 from behind the three-point line.
Orlando Sanchez also leads the team in assists in 10 through their four games.
@rumbleSBN: A pair of interesting stat notes on Orlando Sanchez, on the Rumble's Facebook page. https://t.co/02mUm00SRZ