6th Man of St. John's Basketball
St. John's Red Storm => Recruiting Archives => Recruiting => 2012 Class => Topic started by: gonzalo on April 03, 2011, 02:19:36 AM
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2012 forward Christopher Obekpa of Our Savior New American (NY) has St Johns, Florida, Washington, Vanderbilt, Kentucky & West Virginia.
http://twitter.com/TheRecruitScoop/status/54257874242772992 (http://twitter.com/TheRecruitScoop/status/54257874242772992)
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http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/recruiting/player/_/id/126079/christopher-obekpa (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/recruiting/player/_/id/126079/christopher-obekpa)
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/recruiting/player-Christopher-Obekpa-121800 (http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/recruiting/player-Christopher-Obekpa-121800)
http://scouthoops.scout.com/a.z?s=75&p=8&c=1&nid=5385951 (http://scouthoops.scout.com/a.z?s=75&p=8&c=1&nid=5385951)
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Chris Obekpa '12 hearing from Texas, Providence, Maryland, St John´s, Cincinnati, Seton Hall, Vandy, Washington, WVU, FSU, Miami & G-Tech.
http://twitter.com/TheRecruitScoop/status/91248574083497984 (http://twitter.com/TheRecruitScoop/status/91248574083497984)
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Evan Daniels at Scout is reporting the kids got an offer from St. Johns...also Cincy and WV....
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No doubt offer pending decision of Ricardo Gathers who is 1A on the PF list...
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Christopher Obekpa Highlight Reel Class of 2012 Our Savior New American (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-mVbqiDIoY#ws)
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KETTERING — There’s a big difference between Christopher Obekpa and most others who have participated in the Good Samaritan Hospital Flyin’ to the Hoop.
And it has nothing to do with him being 6 feet, 9 inches and having already been enticed by college basketball powers Kentucky, Louisville and North Carolina.
http://www.daytondailynews.com/dayton-sports/high-school-sports/nigerian-youth-keeps-focused-on-his-future-and-his-family-1056433.html (http://www.daytondailynews.com/dayton-sports/high-school-sports/nigerian-youth-keeps-focused-on-his-future-and-his-family-1056433.html)
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Nigerian living in New York and a teammate of Jevon's. Lavin should have a sit down with him, Jevon, Dele Coker, and GG!!! Gotta like our odds if Lav wants him bad enough.
BTW...kid looks superbly athletic and not as stiff as most Africans his size.
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Nigerian living in New York and a teammate of Jevon's. Lavin should have a sit down with him, Jevon, Dele Coker, and GG!!! Gotta like our odds if Lav wants him bad enough.
BTW...kid looks superbly athletic and not as stiff as most Africans his size.
but should we not wait on gathers and anderson. I think lavin could pick up someone like this late in the game. I trust lavin and I think hell end up with Ricardo and KA
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Nigerian living in New York and a teammate of Jevon's. Lavin should have a sit down with him, Jevon, Dele Coker, and GG!!! Gotta like our odds if Lav wants him bad enough.
BTW...kid looks superbly athletic and not as stiff as most Africans his size.
but should we not wait on gathers and anderson. I think lavin could pick up someone like this late in the game. I trust lavin and I think hell end up with Ricardo and KA
I have full faith in Lavin. My preference is for Gathers, but this kid probably has a much higher ceiling.
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Think we should be recruiting this kid heavily. If someone leaves he can be our 4th 2012 recruit.
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Per ESPN Recruiting (Dave Telep)....
Shot-blockers
ESPNU 60 C Nerlens Noel (Boston/Tilton) and his ability to erase shots, but a sleeper shot-blocker to watch is Isaiah Miles (Ellicott City, Md./Glenelg Country). He actually blocked only 16 shots, but his Baltimore Elite team played at one of the slowest paces in the league and presented Miles an extraordinarily low number of shots to be blocked. Miles isn't a fear-inducing shot-swatter -- just the best of a large group of good ones. Three other names to keep an eye on are 2012 uber-athlete Chris Obekpa (Centereach, N.Y./Our Savior), 2012 fringe Top 100 forward Mike Tobey (Hotchkiss, Conn./Hotchkiss School) and 2013 post Jimmie Taylor (Greensboro, Ala./Greensboro), who just missed the ESPNU 60.
http://espn.go.com/college-sports/recruiting/basketball/mens/story/_/id/6772308/chris-obekpa-derrick-randolph-sleepers-nike-eybl (http://espn.go.com/college-sports/recruiting/basketball/mens/story/_/id/6772308/chris-obekpa-derrick-randolph-sleepers-nike-eybl)
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MJ, what is your suggested recruitment strategy for this talented player?
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MJ, what is your suggested recruitment strategy for this talented player?
Have never seen him play, but he seems to be getting recognition of late. Our staff is looking at 'em, along with some other solid programs, so it seems he must have a pretty good upside. Not to mention, Dave Telep--one of the best in the biz--has also taken notice.
Considering, we're dealing with only a couple of scholarships, and those seem to be allotted for the (very) possible commitments of Anderson and Gathers then I'll take a pass on Obekpa. You just can't take a risk on losing either one of those talented kids. IMO, kids who could be the final pieces to push your team to a Final Four/National championship.
In the event (hopefully, that isn't the case), we don't land one of the two then Obekpa could be rather intriguing. I still believe the staff will look at other options before seriously pulling the string on Obekpa.
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MJ, what is your suggested recruitment strategy for this talented player?
Have never seen him play, but he seems to be getting recognition of late. Our staff is looking at 'em, along with some other solid programs, so it seems he must have a pretty good upside. Not to mention, Dave Telep--one of the best in the biz--has also taken notice.
Considering, we're dealing with only a couple of scholarships, and those seem to be allotted for the (very) possible commitments of Anderson and Gathers then I'll take a pass on Obekpa. You just can't take a risk on losing either one of those talented kids. IMO, kids who could be the final pieces to push your team to a Final Four/National championship.
In the event (hopefully, that isn't the case), we don't land one of the two then Obekpa could be rather intriguing. I still believe the staff will look at other options before seriously pulling the string on Obekpa.
Well put. My preference is for Gathers simply because we will be ready to do serious damage in 2012-2013 and Gathers will make an immediate impact with his body and his higher degree of skill. Obekpa may eventually surpass Gathers, but we need a big that can go from day one. We also need a bruiser more than anything else up front. Kid looks insanely athletic, but so is Sampson.
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Per ESPN Recruiting....
• Christopher Obekpa (Centereach, N.Y./Our Savior) held a block party on Saturday. When it comes to positioning in the lane and going after shot blocks, Obekpa has a plan.
http://espn.go.com/college-sports/recruiting/basketball/mens/story/_/id/6797602/adidas-super-64-las-vegas-fab-48-day-2-recap (http://espn.go.com/college-sports/recruiting/basketball/mens/story/_/id/6797602/adidas-super-64-las-vegas-fab-48-day-2-recap)
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Per Eric Bossi (Rivals)....
New Heights big Chris Obekpa is not having it on defense. You shoot near the rim he's putting it right back in your face.
http://twitter.com/# (http://twitter.com/#)!/ebosshoops/status/95628357097619457
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Per ESPN Recruiting....
Breakout players
Christopher Obekpa
(Centereach, N.Y./Our Savior New American)
2012, PF, 6-8, 210 pounds
Obekpa was a menace against Dream Vision throughout the contest due to his length and bounce. The long-armed 4-man had a number of spectacular blocks because of his quickness and timing. He grabbed a number of rebounds in traffic and was a factor at both ends of the floor for much of the game. His offense is still in its infantile stage, but he does have the ability to hover around the rim for put-backs and dunks.
http://espn.go.com/college-sports/recruiting/basketball/mens/story/_/id/6802720/marcus-smart-highlights-las-vegas-tournaments-day-4 (http://espn.go.com/college-sports/recruiting/basketball/mens/story/_/id/6802720/marcus-smart-highlights-las-vegas-tournaments-day-4)
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Per Alex Kline....
Memphis, Providence & Cincinnati have offered Chris Obekpa, a 2012 PF from New York, per his coach.
http://twitter.com/# (http://twitter.com/#)!/TheRecruitScoop/status/96265958699704320
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Per Dave Telep (ESPN Recruiting)....
Jordan Bell (Long Beach, Calif./Poly) and Christopher Obekpa (Centereach, N.Y./Our Savior) have proven they are elite shot-blockers.
http://espn.go.com/college-sports/recruiting/basketball/mens/story/_/id/6808123/what-learned-las-vegas (http://espn.go.com/college-sports/recruiting/basketball/mens/story/_/id/6808123/what-learned-las-vegas)
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Saw him play today and he quickly caught everyone's attention at camp. He threw everything down and hard. Runs the floor very well. I'll definitely speak with him over the week.
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Chris Obekpa saw the opportunity – leaving his native Nigeria for New York – like he does an invader into the paint: He swallowed it up.
He gauged the upside – making a better life for himself and his family – figured he was old enough to get out on his own and hasn’t looked back.
“I figured if I came here and worked hard, I’d be a better player and better person,” the rangy, 17-year-old, 6-foot-8 foward said.
After a solid first year at Our Savior New American – Obekpa stays with a host family near the private school’s Centereach, L.I., campus through a scholarship fund – he has thrived on the AAU circuit with New Heights’ 17U program. He followed up a stellar July, which included a semifinal berth in the Adidas Super 64 in Las Vegas, with an exceptional performance at Hoop Group Elite Camp Session III, reaching the top-20 all-star game.
Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/high_school/basketball/nigeria_native_shot_blocking_way_JF31edPLGAaGwEJ8pposDM#ixzz1Tm9vRLLz (http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/high_school/basketball/nigeria_native_shot_blocking_way_JF31edPLGAaGwEJ8pposDM#ixzz1Tm9vRLLz)
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Per NBE Basketball....
Chris Obekpa (New Heights/2012) – Enter the paint at your own risk. Obekpa quickly established himself as the events premier shot blocker and solidified that status as the day went on. He blocked shots both on the ball and from the weak side. He blocked shots with both his left and right hands. He blocked shots both below the rim and well above the rim. Chris Obekpa blocked just above every shot that was attempted in the painted area. He runs the floor very well and can finish around the rim with power dunks and soft lay ins alike but that’s the extent of his offensive repertoire at this point. He’s a run and jump athlete who works very hard on both ends and controls the paint defensively. High-majors from around the country should be fighting for his services.
http://www.nbebasketball.com/w3/2011-0801/hoop-group-end-of-summer-classic-rundown-17u-edition/ (http://www.nbebasketball.com/w3/2011-0801/hoop-group-end-of-summer-classic-rundown-17u-edition/)
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The more i read the more i like this kid. Every team needs a guy who does the dirty work. On defense block and alter shots, on offense grab boards for putbacks and extra possessions. If it doesnt work out with the higher rated recruits we are recruiting i'd def take this kid.
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Per Adam Finkelstein (ESPN Recruiting).... Christopher Obekpa is a high-major target
One of the more pleasant surprises of the second half of the live period was PF Christopher Obekpa (Nigeria/Our Savior New American) who has emerged as another high-major big man in the 2012 class.
The 6-foot-9, 200-pounder, who only arrived from Nigeria last September, is an extraordinary shot-blocker with timing and instincts you would expect from a defensive game-changer.
Obekpa first showed his defensive prowess throughout the first two sessions of the Nike EYBL while running with the Metro Hawks and he led the field in blocks per game before fracturing his hand and missing the final weekend in Los Angeles.
http://insider.espn.go.com/ncb/blog?name=finkelstein_adam&id=6829779&action=upsell&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fncb%2fblog%3fname%3dfinkelstein_adam%26id%3d6829779 (http://insider.espn.go.com/ncb/blog?name=finkelstein_adam&id=6829779&action=upsell&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fncb%2fblog%3fname%3dfinkelstein_adam%26id%3d6829779)
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Obekpa's heaviest recruitment currently comes from Memphis, Cincinnati and Providence according to Jaklitsch while St. John's, Texas, West Virginia and Washington are all expressing serious interest.
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Ed Cooley sat front and center for every one of his games at camp.
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Dave,
First off who is Ed Cooley? Is he stalking Christopher?
Seriously, what do you suggest we do about Christopher and his great shot blocking skills? There does not appear to be any room at the St. John's inn. Is he a viable candidate for the last scholarship, if and when KA joins our family, and KR/AJ do not.
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Dave,
First off who is Ed Cooley?
Really?
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Dave,
First off who is Ed Cooley? Is he stalking Christopher?
Seriously, what do you suggest we do about Christopher and his great shot blocking skills? There does not appear to be any room at the St. John's inn. Is he a viable candidate for the last scholarship, if and when KA joins our family, and KR/AJ do not.
New Providence coach formally of Fairfield
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Dave,
First off who is Ed Cooley? Is he stalking Christopher?
Seriously, what do you suggest we do about Christopher and his great shot blocking skills? There does not appear to be any room at the St. John's inn. Is he a viable candidate for the last scholarship, if and when KA joins our family, and KR/AJ do not.
New Providence coach formally of Fairfield
Thanks!
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I don't think he comes to St. John's but he is a nice ball player. Really defensive minded, great timing, doesn't really have an offensive game.
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I don't think he comes to St. John's but he is a nice ball player. Really defensive minded, great timing, doesn't really have an offensive game.
Is he like a poor mans Nerlens Noel?
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I don't think he comes to St. John's but he is a nice ball player. Really defensive minded, great timing, doesn't really have an offensive game.
Is he like a poor mans Nerlens Noel?
Shorter poor man's version yes. Noel is a pro
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Per Zags....
“He’s one of the best interior defenders in our entire country, regardless of class,” Jaklitsch said. “He’s just as good as [Nerlens] Noel.”
http://www.zagsblog.com/2011/08/20/uconn-latest-school-to-offer-chris-obekpa/#more-56268 (http://www.zagsblog.com/2011/08/20/uconn-latest-school-to-offer-chris-obekpa/#more-56268)
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Difference is that Noel is still a near 7 footer. Noel blocked Jakarr like 5 times in one game this year in the NEPSAC, maybe even more. Obekpa has that same type of timing but not a center. Fwiw, I think Pelle is probably as good of a shot blocker as either guy. Pelle just is more laid back type player that needs to develop a little more aggression. Pelle can be much like Noel at the college level.
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Difference is that Noel is still a near 7 footer. Noel blocked Jakarr like 5 times in one game this year in the NEPSAC, maybe even more. Obekpa has that same type of timing but not a center. Fwiw, I think Pelle is probably as good of a shot blocker as either guy. Pelle just is more laid back type player that needs to develop a little more aggression. Pelle can be much like Noel at the college level.
I have never seen Noel play in person.. but people are throwing around the name Bill Russell when comparing his game. For the love of god MCN please be my publicist!! Pelle hopefully should be a great college player.. but it seems that a shot blocker like Noel doesn't come around very often.
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I have never seen Noel play in person.. but people are throwing around the name Bill Russell when comparing his game. For the love of god MCN please be my publicist!! Pelle hopefully should be a great college player.. but it seems that a shot blocker like Noel doesn't come around very often.
I've seen Noel play and he has impeccable timing on his blocks. Not to mention, his offensive game has certainly grown from the first time I saw him (Peach Jam last year) versus when I saw him last month.
Obekpa's stock is certainly growing
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I've seen Noel play and he is an abusive shot blocker/defender. Comparing him to Bill Russell is a stretch but he has that type of game
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Difference is that Noel is still a near 7 footer. Noel blocked Jakarr like 5 times in one game this year in the NEPSAC, maybe even more. Obekpa has that same type of timing but not a center. Fwiw, I think Pelle is probably as good of a shot blocker as either guy. Pelle just is more laid back type player that needs to develop a little more aggression. Pelle can be much like Noel at the college level.
I have never seen Noel play in person.. but people are throwing around the name Bill Russell when comparing his game. For the love of god MCN please be my publicist!! Pelle hopefully should be a great college player.. but it seems that a shot blocker like Noel doesn't come around very often.
Watch Pelle's videos and how quick he gets off the floor on blocks. Not saying he's quite noel's level but close. Norvell is still rivals #1 ranked center due to his defensive/shot blocking abilities and not his offense.
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Difference is that Noel is still a near 7 footer. Noel blocked Jakarr like 5 times in one game this year in the NEPSAC, maybe even more. Obekpa has that same type of timing but not a center. Fwiw, I think Pelle is probably as good of a shot blocker as either guy. Pelle just is more laid back type player that needs to develop a little more aggression. Pelle can be much like Noel at the college level.
I have never seen Noel play in person.. but people are throwing around the name Bill Russell when comparing his game. For the love of god MCN please be my publicist!! Pelle hopefully should be a great college player.. but it seems that a shot blocker like Noel doesn't come around very often.
Watch Pelle's videos and how quick he gets off the floor on blocks. Not saying he's quite noel's level but close. Norvell is still rivals #1 ranked center due to his defensive/shot blocking abilities and not his offense.
I was responding to your original comment that " Pelle is as good as Noel as a shot blocker" . It wasn't meant to be a slight of Pelle at all.
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Difference is that Noel is still a near 7 footer. Noel blocked Jakarr like 5 times in one game this year in the NEPSAC, maybe even more. Obekpa has that same type of timing but not a center. Fwiw, I think Pelle is probably as good of a shot blocker as either guy. Pelle just is more laid back type player that needs to develop a little more aggression. Pelle can be much like Noel at the college level.
I have never seen Noel play in person.. but people are throwing around the name Bill Russell when comparing his game. For the love of god MCN please be my publicist!! Pelle hopefully should be a great college player.. but it seems that a shot blocker like Noel doesn't come around very often.
Watch Pelle's videos and how quick he gets off the floor on blocks. Not saying he's quite noel's level but close. Norvell is still rivals #1 ranked center due to his defensive/shot blocking abilities and not his offense.
Can see a bit of how quick Pelle is to block shots here. I believe he has even grown a bit since this video. Noel is certainly a beast, but I think Pelle will do fine for us. We have almost never had any reasonably good shotblockers at SJU. It will be a treat.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2OnDQr86hFM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2OnDQr86hFM)
I was responding to your original comment that " Pelle is as good as Noel as a shot blocker" . It wasn't meant to be a slight of Pelle at all.
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Difference is that Noel is still a near 7 footer. Noel blocked Jakarr like 5 times in one game this year in the NEPSAC, maybe even more. Obekpa has that same type of timing but not a center. Fwiw, I think Pelle is probably as good of a shot blocker as either guy. Pelle just is more laid back type player that needs to develop a little more aggression. Pelle can be much like Noel at the college level.
I have never seen Noel play in person.. but people are throwing around the name Bill Russell when comparing his game. For the love of god MCN please be my publicist!! Pelle hopefully should be a great college player.. but it seems that a shot blocker like Noel doesn't come around very often.
Watch Pelle's videos and how quick he gets off the floor on blocks. Not saying he's quite noel's level but close. Norvell is still rivals #1 ranked center due to his defensive/shot blocking abilities and not his offense.
Can see a bit of how quick Pelle is to block shots here. I believe he has even grown a bit since this video. Noel is certainly a beast, but I think Pelle will do fine for us. We have almost never had any reasonably good shotblockers at SJU. It will be a treat.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2OnDQr86hFM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2OnDQr86hFM)
I was responding to your original comment that " Pelle is as good as Noel as a shot blocker" . It wasn't meant to be a slight of Pelle at all.
I agree it will be nice to have a good shot blocker.. What makes you think he has grown though?
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Difference is that Noel is still a near 7 footer. Noel blocked Jakarr like 5 times in one game this year in the NEPSAC, maybe even more. Obekpa has that same type of timing but not a center. Fwiw, I think Pelle is probably as good of a shot blocker as either guy. Pelle just is more laid back type player that needs to develop a little more aggression. Pelle can be much like Noel at the college level.
I have never seen Noel play in person.. but people are throwing around the name Bill Russell when comparing his game. For the love of god MCN please be my publicist!! Pelle hopefully should be a great college player.. but it seems that a shot blocker like Noel doesn't come around very often.
Watch Pelle's videos and how quick he gets off the floor on blocks. Not saying he's quite noel's level but close. Norvell is still rivals #1 ranked center due to his defensive/shot blocking abilities and not his offense.
Can see a bit of how quick Pelle is to block shots here. I believe he has even grown a bit since this video. Noel is certainly a beast, but I think Pelle will do fine for us. We have almost never had any reasonably good shotblockers at SJU. It will be a treat.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2OnDQr86hFM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2OnDQr86hFM)
I was responding to your original comment that " Pelle is as good as Noel as a shot blocker" . It wasn't meant to be a slight of Pelle at all.
I agree it will be nice to have a good shot blocker.. What makes you think he has grown though?
That video was earlier in 2010. He's generally listed taller now than he was then, that's all.
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Per Zags....
Our Savior assistant Eric Jaklitsch confirmed Chris Obekpa will take unofficials this week to St. John's and Ga. Tech. Providence later
http://twitter.com/# (http://twitter.com/#)!/AdamZagoria/status/105387095333408768
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Look for St. John's to give Obekpa the red-carpet treatment, but not push him for a verbal commitment just yet because they want to see what Anderson decises to do first.
ALL JUST-IN-CASE OPTIONS FOR SJU?
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Obekpa
Jevon Thomas
Amir Jefferson
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I would say in order-
1. Amile
2. Christopher
Sorry, no, Jevon!
With Coach Lavin, you never know what he will do in recruiting, so all bets are off.
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I would say in order-
1. Amile
2. Christopher
Sorry, no, Jevon!
With Coach Lavin, you never know what he will do in recruiting, so all bets are off.
Agree, Jevon is off the list. Woods took his place. Shuffle your feet...
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Lets hope their is no just in case guys
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Assuming Anderson commits, I think the staff is hoping Obekpa waits until the spring to decide. If it looks Like Lindsey is one-and-done we'll go all out on a big man.
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It would not surprise me one bit if Coach Lavin goes after both Amile and Christopher right after KA commits to us next month. What you say, there will be no scholarships left for both? Not to worry, Coach Lavin has a plan.
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Per Zags, Obekpa had an in-home with Ben Howland and UCLA yesterday....
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If he's going to come all the way out here he might as well make it productive, right? ; )
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I think Providence makes a lot of sense for him. I know Cooley has been all over him for a while too. It's an attractive sell with Dunn and Ledo there too.
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I think Providence makes a lot of sense for him. I know Cooley has been all over him for a while too. It's an attractive sell with Dunn and Ledo there too.
It's funny because providence didn't make sense for any top player about a month ago. Cooley's success will be determined if he can parlay a little bit of good fortune into landing kids like Obekpa and possibly Noel.
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I think Providence makes a lot of sense for him. I know Cooley has been all over him for a while too. It's an attractive sell with Dunn and Ledo there too.
It's funny because providence didn't make sense for any top player about a month ago. Cooley's success will be determined if he can parlay a little bit of good fortune into landing kids like Obekpa and possibly Noel.
Those are supposed to be the two premier shot blockers in highschool right now. Providence would be primed for an extremely bright future if they were to land those two.
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I think Providence makes a lot of sense for him. I know Cooley has been all over him for a while too. It's an attractive sell with Dunn and Ledo there too.
It's funny because providence didn't make sense for any top player about a month ago. Cooley's success will be determined if he can parlay a little bit of good fortune into landing kids like Obekpa and possibly Noel.
Those are supposed to be the two premier shot blockers in highschool right now. Providence would be primed for an extremely bright future if they were to land those two.
Exactly, Mase! That would give the Friars a pretty, sick defensive frontcourt.
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Maybe my man shurinacheese is not so crazy after all for showing luv for Ed Cooley! 8)
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I was told over the weekend that UConn has moved quickly in to the mix for this young man.
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I was told over the weekend that UConn has moved quickly in to the mix for this young man.
He must have recently got his hair cut
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good point...
UConn has in-home tonight with him...
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And we wonder why Uconn leads the country in shot blocking every year-we should be and I hope we are all over this kid.
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bump-hope we can get on this kid! We need some bigs.
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good point...
UConn has in-home tonight with him...
It sounds like Obekpa is just about ready to pop for UConnJob. EX: UConn already with an "in-home visit" and he has yet to even visit St. John's (we're way behind the 8-ball).
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good point...
UConn has in-home tonight with him...
It sounds like Obekpa is just about ready to pop for UConnJob. EX: UConn already with an "in-home visit" and he has yet to even visit St. John's (we're way behind the 8-ball).
He was supposed to visit in late August unless he never came.
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Us being down a few players certainly can help get back in with the kid. We had some PT issues for him before, but no longer.
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Can anyone confirm we are indeed after this kid? From what I have read on him, he seems like a good fit to our frontline. We need a shotblocking presence for 2012-2013.
Is it too late?
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Us being down a few players certainly can help get back in with the kid. We had some PT issues for him before, but no longer.
If Pelle was eligible and Gathers comes, we'd have a total of 3 post players. Which isn't enough at the high major D1 level.
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Us being down a few players certainly can help get back in with the kid. We had some PT issues for him before, but no longer.
If Pelle was eligible and Gathers comes, we'd have a total of 3 post players. Which isn't enough at the high major D1 level.
How many are needed? Thanks!
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Us being down a few players certainly can help get back in with the kid. We had some PT issues for him before, but no longer.
If Pelle was eligible and Gathers comes, we'd have a total of 3 post players. Which isn't enough at the high major D1 level.
How many are needed? Thanks!
I believe it's preferable to go 4 deep at PF/C w/ solid players. Could go with 3 if need be, and one or two more for spot play.
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Us being down a few players certainly can help get back in with the kid. We had some PT issues for him before, but no longer.
If Pelle was eligible and Gathers comes, we'd have a total of 3 post players. Which isn't enough at the high major D1 level.
How many are needed? Thanks!
I believe it's preferable to go 4 deep at PF/C w/ solid players. Could go with 3 if need be, and one or two more for spot play.
Remember Lavin might not play 2 bigs at once like many other teams so we might not be in demand for 4 bigs/post players. This year it appears inevitable that we will be very small but for 2012 as of now we would have GG, Pelle and Gathers. It wouldn't hurt to get another big but the staff might be content with those 3 playing the 5 and using 2 or 3 wings to complement them. If we dont get another natural big then I would look for the staff to go after a hybrid forward like Jakarr or Amile Jefferson
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He is visiting PC this weekend. I like their chances with this kid.
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He is visiting PC this weekend. I like their chances with this kid.
Sign they have given up on Noel?
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We definately need another big. At this point Id rather see us sign him and tell Sampson to take a hike{not that I dislike Sampson,} but 1 in the hand is worth 2 in the bush.
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Fordham,
Who's chances do you like in regards to Obekpa? Providence or STJ?
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As for the UConn home visit, Calhoun “talked about the history of the program, the national championships and how they won with the different types of teams,” Jaklitsch said. He also talked about the “development of big men in the UConn program.”
“The in-home visit went very well,” he said. “We are in the process of setting up an unofficial visit with UConn.”
UCLA, Cincinnati, Seton Hall, St. John’s, Florida and Georgia Tech are also involved.
http://www.zagsblog.com/2011/09/25/obekpa-visits-providence-hosts-calhoun-for-home-visit/#more-58426 (http://www.zagsblog.com/2011/09/25/obekpa-visits-providence-hosts-calhoun-for-home-visit/#more-58426)
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Obekpa should have asked Calhoun for Hasheem Thabeet's phone number.
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Fordham,
Who's chances do you like in regards to Obekpa? Providence or STJ?
Seems like he is a Providence lean as of now. There are rumors swirling that PC is about to get a big time recruit and he may be it.
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Obekpa should have asked Calhoun for Hasheem Thabeet's phone number.
As bad a pro as hes been and as much as many of us didnt see his potential at all and guessed hed be a bust, he still got #2 money. Do you think if he goes to almost any other school hes close to a lottery pick or even a first rounder let alone the #2 pick?
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Obekpa should have asked Calhoun for Hasheem Thabeet's phone number.
As bad a pro as hes been and as much as many of us didnt see his potential at all and guessed hed be a bust, he still got #2 money. Do you think if he goes to almost any other school hes close to a lottery pick or even a first rounder let alone the #2 pick?
I don't know. All I know is that he is a 7 footer from an Elite program, playing inthe D-League. Some idiot Gm drafted him way too high (and, yes, I did predict he would be a bust). Obekpa shouldn't count on being so lucky.
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Obekpa should have asked Calhoun for Hasheem Thabeet's phone number.
As bad a pro as hes been and as much as many of us didnt see his potential at all and guessed hed be a bust, he still got #2 money. Do you think if he goes to almost any other school hes close to a lottery pick or even a first rounder let alone the #2 pick?
I don't know. All I know is that he is a 7 footer from an Elite program, playing inthe D-League. Some idiot Gm drafted him way too high (and, yes, I did predict he would be a bust). Obekpa shouldn't count on being so lucky.
You dont know what? That going to Uconn only helped him get drafted #2 and only helped make him the most money hed make in the NBA. He is what he is and him going to any other school would have hurt him. using him as an example should only make Obekpa want to go there more if anything.
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I dont know the answer to your question.
Thabeet was a 7 footer who blocked a lot of shots of smaller players. His skills were not developed at all---as was the premise of the previoys post about Uconn developing big men. He got drafted on potential. Good for him. I have no problem with kids taking a lot of money from NBA teams.
However, if I'm a recruit, I would not feel safe going to a program just because another guy got drafted #2. I would want to make sure I go someplace where my skills will be developed as much as possible. I'm not saying that that could not happen at Uconn. I just used Thabeet (really in jest) to refute the blanket proposition made by Calhoun to Obekpa (per the article) that he develops big men at Uconn.
Do you think that Obekpa, if at the end of his college career, is only able to block shots, without ANY offensive skills (see Thabeet, Hasheem), will be drafted #2 in any upcoming NBA draft?
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FWIW Thabeet reached his ceiling. He was never that athletic nor did he possess a high BB IQ yet Calhoun used him the right way to maximize what he did have . . . height, period. It got him #2 money. Success story. End of Story.
Calhoun could also point to Travis Knight and Jake Voskuhl as guys who never should have sniffed the NBA but ended up having pretty decent careers on the end of NBA benches, Josh Boone, the slowest undersized center to ever get drafted in the first round, Hilton Armstrong - 12th overall pick and 12th overall money. And of course Emeka again drafted higher than his ability and paid as such.
That's a pretty good track record. There's nothing on Obekpa's resume that indicates he's going to be Shaq, Kareem or Wilt, or even a sure thing for the NBA. Same could be said for most of the centers I mentioned but look at the money Calhoun earned them. It makes sense why Obekpa would listen.
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I dont know the answer to your question.
Thabeet was a 7 footer who blocked a lot of shots of smaller players. His skills were not developed at all---as was the premise of the previoys post about Uconn developing big men. He got drafted on potential. Good for him. I have no problem with kids taking a lot of money from NBA teams.
However, if I'm a recruit, I would not feel safe going to a program just because another guy got drafted #2. I would want to make sure I go someplace where my skills will be developed as much as possible. I'm not saying that that could not happen at Uconn. I just used Thabeet (really in jest) to refute the blanket proposition made by Calhoun to Obekpa (per the article) that he develops big men at Uconn.
Do you think that Obekpa, if at the end of his college career, is only able to block shots, without ANY offensive skills (see Thabeet, Hasheem), will be drafted #2 in any upcoming NBA draft?
His skills were developed as best as they were going to be. Uconn does develop big men and gets them to the NBA and drafted usually alot higher then they should be. Just look at yankcranker's post.
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This kid is nothing like what Uconn has ever sent to the pros. If anything he looks most like Ajou Deng. Spin that one favorably.
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STJ, Uconn and Florida coaches at OSNA today to I presume watch Obekpa.
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This kid is nothing like what Uconn has ever sent to the pros. If anything he looks most like Ajou Deng. Spin that one favorably.
Well if he's not any good why are we even discussing him. ; )
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He is good and we need another big. Cant count on Sampson or Pelle.
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He is good and we need another big. Cant count on Sampson or Pelle.
I agree.
Even if Sampson & Pelle BOTH make it here I would want him .
Achuiwa will be a Sr when he would be a frosh.
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What's the word...is he coming to midnight madness? I thought hope was lost on this guy but it would definitely be a good sign if we could get him here for midnight madness.
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Obekpa is gonna be there tonight per Zags. Show him some love folks 8)
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http://www.zagsblog.com/2011/10/17/big-weekend-for-chris-obekpa-at-is8/#more-59474 (http://www.zagsblog.com/2011/10/17/big-weekend-for-chris-obekpa-at-is8/#more-59474)
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Would love to team this kid with hopefully Pelle, GG and Gathers at the 4-5 positions next season. He and Pelle could potentially give us the best shot blocking in the program's history. :)
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Is he qualified?
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Would love to team this kid with hopefully Pelle, GG and Gathers at the 4-5 positions next season. He and Pelle could potentially give us the best shot blocking in the program's history. :)
Gathers, Amir and Pointer are some excellent shot-blockers as well. Not many teams going to want to take shots 15 feet and in with our guys in there. Obekpa would be a fantastic addition if we could pull it off. Not sure why Obekpa would choose Uconn except of course their history of success. There are like 6-7 guys are the 4/5 spots there. At SJU, he could be one of 4 guys at the 4/5 spots and God's Gift would be a senior when he enters.
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Would love to team this kid with hopefully Pelle, GG and Gathers at the 4-5 positions next season. He and Pelle could potentially give us the best shot blocking in the program's history. :)
Gathers, Amir and Pointer are some excellent shot-blockers as well. Not many teams going to want to take shots 15 feet and in with our guys in there. Obekpa would be a fantastic addition if we could pull it off. Not sure why Obekpa would choose Uconn except of course their history of success. There are like 6-7 guys are the 4/5 spots there. At SJU, he could be one of 4 guys at the 4/5 spots and God's Gift would be a senior when he enters.
Totally agree we need him much more than Uconn. Let's hope he adopts the philosophy of the kid who didn't want to sign with Carolina because he said he didn't want to be just another horse in Dean Smith's stable. Forget who it was-may have even signed with us-someone help me out-used to have a memory like an elephant now I can't even remember the elephant. ::)
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I believe it was Kenny Anderson who used that analogy about UNC.
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Christopher Obekpa (Nigeria/Our Savior New American, N.Y.) tells Fivestarbasketball.com that he will take his time with recruiting but does like the the idea of playing with Kyle Anderson at UCLA after seeing him multiple times this summer, "He's top-5," Obekpa said.
After only playing three years of organized basketball, Obekpa is viewed as one of the top shot blockers in the 2012 class and is adjusting to the recruiting process.
http://fivestarbasketball.com/articles/10-18-2011-recruiting-roundup-10-18 (http://fivestarbasketball.com/articles/10-18-2011-recruiting-roundup-10-18)
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I didn't even see this at the bottom of the article
St. John's-commit Darrick Wood (Washington, DC/Bridgton Academy, MA) is working on bringing along Christopher Obekpa to the Queens, New York school. Both attended the Red Storm's Midnight Madness.
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I believe it was Kenny Anderson who used that analogy about UNC.
One of best quotes from recruiting wars - ever.
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I believe it was Kenny Anderson who used that analogy about UNC.
One of best quotes from recruiting wars - ever.
It was shockin at the time and the Smith fams took it hard.
But it was tru.
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I didn't even see this at the bottom of the article
St. John's-commit Darrick Wood (Washington, DC/Bridgton Academy, MA) is working on bringing along Christopher Obekpa to the Queens, New York school. Both attended the Red Storm's Midnight Madness.
Didnt even see them talking to each other at the Tip Off
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Will supposedly sign late.
http://www.zagsblog.com/2011/10/22/nigerian-big-man-chris-obekpa-to-sign-late/ (http://www.zagsblog.com/2011/10/22/nigerian-big-man-chris-obekpa-to-sign-late/)
Obekpa, a native of Nigeria, is considering a slew of high-major programs, including UConn, Providence, Cincinnati, UCLA, St. John’s, Georgia Tech, Florida and Kentucky. Kentucky has yet to offer.
He rescheduled an unofficial visit to UConn and will head up there sometime next week.
Obekpa is aware that UConn has produced a slew of pro big men, including several of African descent — Emeka Okafor, Hasheem Thabeet and Charles Okwandu.
“I know a bunch of the big men that went there …like the Africans,” he said.
Does that make UConn more appealing?
“Yeah, yeah, yeah, and the championship team,” he said, referring to UConn’s NCAA title.
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Might wait until spring to make his decision.
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Might wait until spring to make his decision.
Isn't that what I posted?
I guess you can pick apart Zags saying 'sign' but from the sound of the article it was as if he wasn't close to decision.
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Might wait until spring to make his decision.
Isn't that what I posted?
I guess you can pick apart Zags saying 'sign' but from the sound of the article it was as if he wasn't close to decision.
Maybe he's got you on ignore?
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Might wait until spring to make his decision.
Isn't that what I posted?
I guess you can pick apart Zags saying 'sign' but from the sound of the article it was as if he wasn't close to decision.
Maybe he's got you on ignore?
Thought you did?
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Might wait until spring to make his decision.
Isn't that what I posted?
I guess you can pick apart Zags saying 'sign' but from the sound of the article it was as if he wasn't close to decision.
Maybe he's got you on ignore?
Thought you did?
Sorry didn't read anything prior
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Will supposedly sign late.
http://www.zagsblog.com/2011/10/22/nigerian-big-man-chris-obekpa-to-sign-late/ (http://www.zagsblog.com/2011/10/22/nigerian-big-man-chris-obekpa-to-sign-late/)
Obekpa, a native of Nigeria, is considering a slew of high-major programs, including UConn, Providence, Cincinnati, UCLA, St. John’s, Georgia Tech, Florida and Kentucky. Kentucky has yet to offer.
He rescheduled an unofficial visit to UConn and will head up there sometime next week.
Obekpa is aware that UConn has produced a slew of pro big men, including several of African descent — Emeka Okafor, Hasheem Thabeet and Charles Okwandu.
“I know a bunch of the big men that went there …like the Africans,” he said.
Does that make UConn more appealing?
“Yeah, yeah, yeah, and the championship team,” he said, referring to UConn’s NCAA title.
If it's UCONN, I don't see him doing this waiting game. From everything I've read, they'd take his verbal now. He may be waiting partially on UCLA - or actually, waiting for Tony Parker to decide. Parker is UCLA's #1 choice up front for 2012, but Ben REALLY likes Obekpa's upside. And the african connection of Luc Richard Mbah a Moute and Alfred Aboya each playing in 3 final 4s is still a pretty recent memory....And they're not newbies when it comes to african recruits - center Ike Nwankwo won a ring in '95 :)
I personally think the longer the wait the better for St. Johns in this case. I'm hoping Parker to Westwood, Obekpa to Queens....
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It would be great to go from our lack of size and depth in the front court this year, to Pelle, Gathers, GG, and Obekpa next year. Add that to the experience we would get this year from our incoming players and we would have an extremely solid squad. Keeping my fingers crossed that we land him in the spring.
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pipe dream....first ignored :-X
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pipe dream....first ignored :-X
Thanks Ed!
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Well you should probably contact Lavin and the staff and let them know its a pipe dream so they don't waste their time. I said it would be nice to get him, not we are definitely landing him.
pipe dream....first ignored :-X
re the
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Well you should probably contact Lavin and the staff and let them know its a pipe dream so they don't waste their time. I said it would be nice to get him, not we are definitely landing him.
pipe dream....first ignored :-X
re the
shurinacheese is a nagging nabob of negativism!
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Heard he was at the game today
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Heard he was at the game today
Yep
Along with 2 players from the Playaz with Jimmy Salmons.
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http://www.playazbasketball.org/id7.html (http://www.playazbasketball.org/id7.html)
Pretty sure one of the kids from the Playaz was AJ Sumbry. But I could be wrong.
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Somebody named Naasir Williams was also there
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Somebody named Naasir Williams was also there
Courtesy of our own Jungle Dave.
Naasir Williams Rises as Top Point Guard at Hoop Group Elite (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=viXur0apFIk#ws)
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Somebody named Naasir Williams was also there
Courtesy of our own Jungle Dave.
Naasir Williams Rises as Top Point Guard at Hoop Group Elite (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=viXur0apFIk#ws)
According to a few tweets he made, he was there to see his friend who plays for UMBC.
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Obekpa was a monster this weekend at HS Hoops Fest in DC. Recorded a triple double. He was like the great wall in the paint.
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Dave,
What kind of shape are we in with Obekpa?
Thanks!
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Dave,
What kind of shape are we in with Obekpa?
Thanks!
Involved but he isn't as primary of a target like he is for PC. Don't get me wrong Obekpa does a lot of things well defensively but he's a very unpolished player. He's more of 3rd or 4th big man on a high major team. He's a role guy.
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Sound a bit like gift?
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Sound a bit like gift?
Gift is much better offensively and no way alike in body frame. Obekpa is a much better shot blocker and thats his most redeeming quality to high major programs.
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Would love to see us land this guy.
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Would love to see us land this guy.
If I told you we could only get 2 from the choice of Gathers, Jakarr and Obekpa. Do you still take him?
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Would love to see us land this guy.
If I told you we could only get 2 from the choice of Gathers, Jakarr and Obekpa. Do you still take him?
We have 6 schollies I would take all 3. Obekpa seems like the only center type of the 3 what with him being mainly a shot blocker which is what you want from a center.
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Would love to see us land this guy.
If I told you we could only get 2 from the choice of Gathers, Jakarr and Obekpa. Do you still take him?
We have 6 schollies I would take all 3. Obekpa seems like the only center type of the 3 what with him being mainly a shot blocker which is what you want from a center.
You didn't play my game though :)
You only can take 2 :)
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Would love to see us land this guy.
If I told you we could only get 2 from the choice of Gathers, Jakarr and Obekpa. Do you still take him?
We have 6 schollies I would take all 3. Obekpa seems like the only center type of the 3 what with him being mainly a shot blocker which is what you want from a center.
You didn't play my game though :)
You only can take 2 :)
Is this a trick question? Of course you'd take Gathers and Jakarr, right???
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Would love to see us land this guy.
If I told you we could only get 2 from the choice of Gathers, Jakarr and Obekpa. Do you still take him?
We have 6 schollies I would take all 3. Obekpa seems like the only center type of the 3 what with him being mainly a shot blocker which is what you want from a center.
You didn't play my game though :)
You only can take 2 :)
Is this a trick question? Of course you'd take Gathers and Jakarr, right???
That's point. I think the priority list goes that way.
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This kid continues to get better everytime I see him.
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Maybe I'm not used to rooting for a top recruiting team, or maybe Obekpa is not that talented, but with the state of our front court, I don't know how you could turn down a big man who can block shots and rebound at this point. All I can say is that I hope we have such better talents in the wings, that he is not a priority.
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Maybe I'm not used to rooting for a top recruiting team, or maybe Obekpa is not that talented, but with the state of our front court, I don't know how you could turn down a big man who can block shots and rebound at this point. All I can say is that I hope we have such better talents in the wings, that he is not a priority.
The way I see it is Lavin said 6 more kids. Pretty sure he has Amir in that count so thats 1. Wood would be 2. Gathers and Jakarr and 3 and 4. There is supposedly a mystery shooter looking to transfer in which would be 5.
A lot of people say we need a PG. Some say we need a true legit center. Which way do you go with the last one?
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Center,too many year of making do with a PF as a center.
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First and foremost, any eligibility issues whatsover with him?
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This kid continues to get better everytime I see him.
Serious.
Grows by leaps and bounds.
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This kid continues to get better everytime I see him.
Serious.
Grows by leaps and bounds.
He puts everything on the glass, and I've never seen him foul out
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Would love to see us land this guy.
If I told you we could only get 2 from the choice of Gathers, Jakarr and Obekpa. Do you still take him?
Currently we have Moe Amir and Sir at the 3 in place, so I really want bigs I want Gathers and Obekpa. It is not fair to ask Moe to play out of position again next year.
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Maybe I'm not used to rooting for a top recruiting team, or maybe Obekpa is not that talented, but with the state of our front court, I don't know how you could turn down a big man who can block shots and rebound at this point. All I can say is that I hope we have such better talents in the wings, that he is not a priority.
The way I see it is Lavin said 6 more kids. Pretty sure he has Amir in that count so thats 1. Wood would be 2. Gathers and Jakarr and 3 and 4. There is supposedly a mystery shooter looking to transfer in which would be 5.
A lot of people say we need a PG. Some say we need a true legit center. Which way do you go with the last one?
Both, because now that Nuri's jumped ship we have an extra ride.
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Maybe I'm not used to rooting for a top recruiting team, or maybe Obekpa is not that talented, but with the state of our front court, I don't know how you could turn down a big man who can block shots and rebound at this point. All I can say is that I hope we have such better talents in the wings, that he is not a priority.
The way I see it is Lavin said 6 more kids. Pretty sure he has Amir in that count so thats 1. Wood would be 2. Gathers and Jakarr and 3 and 4. There is supposedly a mystery shooter looking to transfer in which would be 5.
A lot of people say we need a PG. Some say we need a true legit center. Which way do you go with the last one?
Both, because now that Nuri's jumped ship we have an extra ride.
So you want to have 13 players in 2012 and lose Gift and Stith so 2 rides in '13?
I'd rather save 1 of those and go 3 man class in '13.
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Maybe I'm not used to rooting for a top recruiting team, or maybe Obekpa is not that talented, but with the state of our front court, I don't know how you could turn down a big man who can block shots and rebound at this point. All I can say is that I hope we have such better talents in the wings, that he is not a priority.
The way I see it is Lavin said 6 more kids. Pretty sure he has Amir in that count so thats 1. Wood would be 2. Gathers and Jakarr and 3 and 4. There is supposedly a mystery shooter looking to transfer in which would be 5.
A lot of people say we need a PG. Some say we need a true legit center. Which way do you go with the last one?
Both, because now that Nuri's jumped ship we have an extra ride.
So you want to have 13 players in 2012 and lose Gift and Stith so 2 rides in '13?
I'd rather save 1 of those and go 3 man class in '13.
If Lavin thinks he can get the goods go for it now. One thing we've learned in the last year plus is that players are going to come and go, or not qualify.
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I would much rather have Sidiki Johnson than Obekpa. I would not use all the ships for 2012 but rather go with a 3 man class in 2013.
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I'd rather have Gathers, Sampson and then some type of real center. Obekpa is still more of a shotblocking PF. Fwiw, Gift is better than just a "role guy". Those types of players don't grab a double-double vs UK. Gift has another very, very good year ahead of him. He's been doubled early and often this season because teams key on our only big guy. He needs some work, but can board, score and even has a nice midrange game. Gift is a guy we should all be thankful for having. He'll be even better as a senior with other big bodies around him. As fas as Obekpa goes, I'd take him any day. If we're bringing in 4 or 5 more guys, he certainly should be up there on the priority list. I think Lavin will have us all pleasantly surprised with the recruiting class after the spring.
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I would much rather have Sidiki Johnson than Obekpa. I would not use all the ships for 2012 but rather go with a 3 man class in 2013.
That's an absurd statement. I'd take Obekpa in a heartbeat over Sidicki
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I'd take Obekpa in a second over Sidiki. Obekpa brings things to the table that are hard to teach-defensive intensity and desire and he has the physical ability to carry out his defensive assignment. Also, I am not aware of any "trouble" signals coming from his camp-which I can't say for Sidiki. Not saying Sidiki is a bad kid, just seems to have some baggage that I prefer staying away from-of course I am going by what I have read and I don't know Sidiki's story first hand.
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I would much rather have Sidiki Johnson than Obekpa. I would not use all the ships for 2012 but rather go with a 3 man class in 2013.
That's an absurd statement. I'd take Obekpa in a heartbeat over Sidicki
Hey Dave, was that extra c in Sidiki intentional? ;D
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I would much rather have Sidiki Johnson than Obekpa. I would not use all the ships for 2012 but rather go with a 3 man class in 2013.
That's an absurd statement. I'd take Obekpa in a heartbeat over Sidicki
Hey Dave, was that extra c in Sidiki intentional? ;D
Dave is one of those good/bad comedians
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Ha I wish I could take credit. Just a typo
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I would much rather have Sidiki Johnson than Obekpa. I would not use all the ships for 2012 but rather go with a 3 man class in 2013.
That's an absurd statement. I'd take Obekpa in a heartbeat over Sidicki
Don't think its absurd at all, Obekpa is hardly the finished product on the offensive side of the ball. Sidiki although nlot the most gifted athlete has the size and strength we need and I will guess (if he gets his head is straight) will have a better college career.
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I would much rather have Sidiki Johnson than Obekpa. I would not use all the ships for 2012 but rather go with a 3 man class in 2013.
That's an absurd statement. I'd take Obekpa in a heartbeat over Sidicki
Don't think its absurd at all, Obekpa is hardly the finished product on the offensive side of the ball. Sidiki although nlot the most gifted athlete has the size and strength we need and I will guess (if he gets his head is straight) will have a better college career.
its definitely not absurd when you look at their rankings.
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Obekpa & Rico for me. Sampson although I would love to also have is not better than Moe or Rico so where is he getting PT at?Obekpa can add something that the team does not have an excellent shot blocker & can play back center & PF
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With respect to Sidiki........... I believe that both KOB24 & Choz have recommended we stay away from him. To me that is important and easily puts Obekpa as the clear winner between the two.
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Obekpa & Rico for me. Sampson although I would love to also have is not better than Moe or Rico so where is he getting PT at?Obekpa can add something that the team does not have an excellent shot blocker & can play back center & PF
It's a tough comparison but I can't agree with your blanket statement that Gathers and Moe are better than Sampson. We need Gathers for a different reason, but I think Sampson is the most talented recruit we have a shot at for '12. He would be able to play the hybrid position Moe's in now extremely well. He can rebound and in HS at least was a better defender than Moe.
And that's no disrespect to Moe or Gathers. Moe is the face of this team and my new favorite player since DJ left. But, Sampson is a special talent I think - and is the absolute ideal player for Lavin's system.
If we get him back in the fold imagine a year from now a front court, at times, of Gift, Sampson, and Moe.... that's the kind of lineup we need to be able to play this zone and not be out-rebounded.
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Sampson is close to as gifted as Mo. He's actually quicker off the first step, a better athlete and defender. Mo has better offensive "feel" at this point and a ton of upside but so does Sampson, I'd love Jakarr on board. I'd take any combination of them though.
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Calling a well informed and well connected poster's thoughts on a player absurd, that is board leadership right there people.
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Calling a well informed and well connected poster's thoughts on a player absurd, that is board leadership right there people.
I dont get what's wrong with the word absurd? I dont think sju89tr took it as a slight against him. They disagreed.
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Calling a well informed and well connected poster's thoughts on a player absurd, that is board leadership right there people.
Rather than calling out the fine moderators on this site on a daily basis why don't you go moderate the ghost town you created nearly singledhandedly over at BEB. I think there was a post last week in which someone expressed an opinion - that thread should have been locked immediately. You're slacking.
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FOAD - as always, have a nice day.
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Let's keep it on topic guys
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Calling a well informed and well connected poster's thoughts on a player absurd, that is board leadership right there people.
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Calling a well informed and well connected poster's thoughts on a player absurd, that is board leadership right there people.
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Nice Dave ::)
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Zags update http://www.zagsblog.com/2011/12/16/chris-obekpa-planning-officials/#more-63351 (http://www.zagsblog.com/2011/12/16/chris-obekpa-planning-officials/#more-63351)
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I really like what i see of this kid Obekpa. Excellent shot blocker & rebounder, just what we need in the post. Hopefully the staff doesnt lose out on him by spending too much time chasing Pelle, who i think they should forget about at this point.
Christopher Obekpa Highlight Reel Class of 2012 Our Savior New American (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-mVbqiDIoY#ws)
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I really like what i see of this kid Obekpa. Excellent shot blocker & rebounder, just what we need in the post. Hopefully the staff doesnt lose out on him by spending too much time chasing Pelle, who i think they should forget about at this point.
Christopher Obekpa Highlight Reel Class of 2012 Our Savior New American (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-mVbqiDIoY#ws)
The staff isn't chasing Pelle anymore. They haven't talked to him in over a month. He is gone. Not coming here ever.
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Appears like we would get an official visit. Like our chances if so
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How tall is this kid? He looks great. Like a right handed Pelle. A bit shorter though , i assume.
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How tall is this kid? He looks great. Like a right handed Pelle. A bit shorter though , i assume.
Not much shorter. Pelle is 6'10". Obekpa 6'8" or 6'9". Obekpa gets after it more than Pelle. Pelle had all the ability in the world but doesn't seem to have the drive.
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How tall is this kid? He looks great. Like a right handed Pelle. A bit shorter though , i assume.
Not much shorter. Pelle is 6'10". Obekpa 6'8" or 6'9". Obekpa gets after it more than Pelle. Pelle had all the ability in the world but doesn't seem to have the drive.
Thanks MCNPA!
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I really like what I am hearing about this Obekpa prospect.
While he may not be a blue chipper, the young man has been getting lots of praise.
He's a top 100 prospect that claims offers from: UCONN, GT, Memphis, Cincy, us, and a few others.
Strengths:
Obekpa has an unbelievable motor that never stops. He is a long and extremely athletic power forward who moves up and down the floor like a deer. When running the floor in transition he can finish the alley-oop with both elbows well above the rim, and Obekpa's hands and quick first jump allow him to rebound the ball in traffic and finish tip dunks on the offensive glass. In the post, Obekpa has work to do, but he was able to score over his left shoulder with a running hook, spin off his defender baseline side and finish on the other side, and step through move. None of his post moves looked comfortable, but with time he could become an efficient scorer in the post. Defensively, Obekpa challenges all shots in the lane and has good timing rotating over from weak side to block shots.
Weaknesses:
Obekpa has raw offensive fundamentals. His footwork, shooting and ball handling need improvements for him to reach his full potential. Obekpa has a decent feel for the game, but with more time playing he will become more comfortable.
Bottom Line:
Obekpa is a high energy, long and athletic power forward. His fundamentals are a little raw at this stage of his career, but when they catch up with the rest of his game watch out. Defensively, he can guard multiple positions all over the court and is terrific on the glass. His best basketball is down the road when his skills improve.
Notes
Travel Team: New York Elite...Native of Nigeria...
Link: http://espn.go.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/player/_/id/126079/christopher-obekpa (http://espn.go.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/player/_/id/126079/christopher-obekpa)
I never knew dude man was a soccer player. He plays "sweeper."
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I agree PIB. If he is a stud on defense I don't really care if all he can do is catch and finish on offense. I'm hoping we can get him, Gathers, and Sampson in the fold next year.
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This is not a typical African prospect...he's so much more fluid and not stiff at all. He'd be perfect for Lav.
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I agree PIB. If he is a stud on defense I don't really care if all he can do is catch and finish on offense. I'm hoping we can get him, Gathers, and Sampson in the fold next year.
I will do backflips down the BQE if we landed those three in addition to Wood and Garret.
Lavin needs to make it happen.
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This is not a typical African prospect...he's so much more fluid and not stiff at all. He'd be perfect for Lav.
That's what impressed me from watching the tape. Very fluid around the basket. Very long with a good basketball sense.
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This is not a typical African prospect...he's so much more fluid and not stiff at all. He'd be perfect for Lav.
That's what impressed me from watching the tape. Very fluid around the basket. Very long with a good basketball sense.
Obekpa reminds me of Obinna Ekezie, another former soccer playing Nigerian. A little raw on offense, but his fluid movement suggests he could rapidly improve. Defensive skills look really solid - I like his footwork.
I hope Obekpa's as good with the books as Ekezie - Obinna was a Mechanical Engineering major.
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I would much rather have Sidiki Johnson than Obekpa. I would not use all the ships for 2012 but rather go with a 3 man class in 2013.
That's an absurd statement. I'd take Obekpa in a heartbeat over Sidicki
Based on the video included in one of the early posts, this kid has unbelievable timing...realize the kids he was playing against may not hae had the biggest hops, but he looked damn good...
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Really hope we land this kid. Based on what I've seen, he'd be a tremendous asset for us down low and really free up our scorers to go to work. And I think it's very important we keep chasing kids in our own backyard. Keeping locals here in NY is essential to bringing back this program.
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Really hope we land this kid. Based on what I've seen, he'd be a tremendous asset for us down low and really free up our scorers to go to work. And I think it's very important we keep chasing kids in our own backyard. Keeping locals here in NY is essential to bringing back this program.
If Gathers slips away, losing Obepka would be a killer.
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Really hope we land this kid. Based on what I've seen, he'd be a tremendous asset for us down low and really free up our scorers to go to work. And I think it's very important we keep chasing kids in our own backyard. Keeping locals here in NY is essential to bringing back this program.
If Gathers slips away, losing Obepka would be a killer.
What would you call it if Lavin gets Sampson, Gathers, Obepka, Wood and a point guard transfer that was a McDonald AA? They would again be the best team in the NYC metro area....as they are this year. But they may be the best team in the Big East. Only Syracuse would be a close second in the BE.
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I would call that a miracle. Unfortunately, I think it would also be a miracle if we get 2 of those beach bum mentioned
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I would call that a miracle. Unfortunately, I think it would also be a miracle if we get 2 of those beach bum mentioned
Well that is the difference between us fulltime SJ fans and the part-time fans!
Wood is committed and you give us a snowball's chance in hell to recruit ANYONE ELSE. You call it a miracle?
I like your positive outlook! I am sure you were pretty positive Iona would beat lowly Hofstra also....we all know how that turned out. LOL!
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I would call that a miracle. Unfortunately, I think it would also be a miracle if we get 2 of those beach bum mentioned
Well that is the difference between us fulltime SJ fans and the part-time fans!
Wood is committed and you give us a snowball's chance in hell to recruit ANYONE ELSE. You call it a miracle?
I like your positive outlook! I am sure you were pretty positive Iona would beat lowly Hofstra also....we all know how that turned out. LOL!
youre obsessed lol, Any reasonable St Johns fan would sign on to getting 2 of those
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I think we'll get firm commitments from recruits once Lavins comes back, and he stays back.
At this point, these kids are waiting to see if he's healthy enough to coach. It's pretty disgusting of them,
but then again, I'd they don't deliver, they'll be asked to leave.
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I think we'll get firm commitments from recruits once Lavins comes back, and he stays back.
At this point, these kids are waiting to see if he's healthy enough to coach. It's pretty disgusting of them,
but then again, I'd they don't deliver, they'll be asked to leave.
Asked to leave? Who you talkin' bout Willis?? You have to sign them first!
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I would call that a miracle. Unfortunately, I think it would also be a miracle if we get 2 of those beach bum mentioned
Well that is the difference between us fulltime SJ fans and the part-time fans!
Wood is committed and you give us a snowball's chance in hell to recruit ANYONE ELSE. You call it a miracle?
I like your positive outlook! I am sure you were pretty positive Iona would beat lowly Hofstra also....we all know how that turned out. LOL!
youre obsessed lol, Any reasonable St Johns fan would sign on to getting 2 of those
Two would mean Darrick Wood and 1 other player in your world of miracles! We are talking St. John's recruiting not I own her! LOL!
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I would call that a miracle. Unfortunately, I think it would also be a miracle if we get 2 of those beach bum mentioned
Well that is the difference between us fulltime SJ fans and the part-time fans!
Wood is committed and you give us a snowball's chance in hell to recruit ANYONE ELSE. You call it a miracle?
I like your positive outlook! I am sure you were pretty positive Iona would beat lowly Hofstra also....we all know how that turned out. LOL!
youre obsessed lol, Any reasonable St Johns fan would sign on to getting 2 of those
Two would mean Darrick Wood and 1 other player in your world of miracles! We are talking St. John's recruiting not I own her! LOL!
Yes at this point I take Wood and a big out of the names you mentioned. Who knows if Wood is even coming or eligible? As for a PG, I think the next class has more to offer.
And youre right we are talking about St Johns, there is a Iona thread in the college sports section
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I would call that a miracle. Unfortunately, I think it would also be a miracle if we get 2 of those beach bum mentioned
Well that is the difference between us fulltime SJ fans and the part-time fans!
Wood is committed and you give us a snowball's chance in hell to recruit ANYONE ELSE. You call it a miracle?
I like your positive outlook! I am sure you were pretty positive Iona would beat lowly Hofstra also....we all know how that turned out. LOL!
youre obsessed lol, Any reasonable St Johns fan would sign on to getting 2 of those
And youre right we are talking about St Johns, there is a Iona thread in the college sports section
I own her thread? You are just lucky you are Dave's neighbor or godson or whatever. If this were my SJ board the only I own her threads would be on an I own her board.
At Kentucky, were you to start a Louisville thread.... To "support" Lville.....you first would be hunted down, tar and feathered....and then banned there and in the parallel universe.
Hey, btw, I like that you are a fisherman over at redmen.com also! Your fishing under the names Marco and Michelle are classic! And we don't even start Iona threads there as you know!
keep rowing! LMAO!
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Of your 85 posts, I would bet half of them mention Iona.
As for Marco and Michelle, wrong again. But dont let that stop ya from making a fool of yourself
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Enough guys...take it somewhere else
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Of your 85 posts, I would bet half of them mention Iona.
As for Marco and Michelle, wrong again. But dont let that stop ya from making a fool of yourself
Marco's telling the truth there. On the rare occasions he visits I'm pretty sure he's Ricky Smith.
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Marco: Why does it seem like you have reservations about Wood becoming a Johnny?
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Marco: Why does it seem like you have reservations about Wood becoming a Johnny?
Like some others said, just seems too quiet. Also his thread here has gone dead,usually incoming recruits are followed closely. Just a thought, hopefully I'm wrong
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Of your 85 posts, I would bet half of them mention Iona.
As for Marco and Michelle, wrong again. But dont let that stop ya from making a fool of yourself
LOL!
I love four letter words and that is the only reason I mention Iona!
As for Michelle, why a little birdie on redmen told me that thingy called an ISP located her and she lives in the exact zip code as my favorite Iona poster! Co-inki-dink? Maybe!
BTW, I am up to 87 on mentioning Iona here. Michelle is up to 5 mentions on redmen. I am winning!!!!
Besides, Dave mentioned in an earlier thread, in your defense, he likes hearing about Iona and your insight!
I also appreciate your post today on Scott Machado over on redmen. LOL! It was a plant to bring Michelle out! The only response by co-inki-dink!
Cluess has had a personal grudge with SJ ever since he transferred after his junior year to eventually get fewer minutes at Hofstra. He would not have never brokered a deal for Machado to SJ if it killed him!
Peace brother!
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Of your 85 posts, I would bet half of them mention Iona.
As for Marco and Michelle, wrong again. But dont let that stop ya from making a fool of yourself
LOL!
I love four letter words and that is the only reason I mention Iona!
As for Michelle, why a little birdie on redmen told me that thingy called an ISP located her and she lives in the exact zip code as my favorite Iona poster! Co-inki-dink? Maybe!
BTW, I am up to 87 on mentioning Iona here. Michelle is up to 5 mentions on redmen. I am winning!!!!
Besides, Dave mentioned in an earlier thread, in your defense, he likes hearing about Iona and your insight!
I also appreciate your post today on Scott Machado over on redmen. LOL! It was a plant to bring Michelle out! The only response by co-inki-dink!
Cluess has had a personal grudge with SJ ever since he transferred after his junior year to eventually get fewer minutes at Hofstra. He would not have never brokered a deal for Machado to SJ if it killed him!
Peace brother!
Please stop calling out posters. It's a dead issue and I've repeatedly asked you and others to stop. This thread is about Chris Obepka not you, Marco, or off topics.
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Beach bum take your love affair to PM
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Of your 85 posts, I would bet half of them mention Iona.
As for Marco and Michelle, wrong again. But dont let that stop ya from making a fool of yourself
LOL!
I love four letter words and that is the only reason I mention Iona!
As for Michelle, why a little birdie on redmen told me that thingy called an ISP located her and she lives in the exact zip code as my favorite Iona poster! Co-inki-dink? Maybe!
BTW, I am up to 87 on mentioning Iona here. Michelle is up to 5 mentions on redmen. I am winning!!!!
Besides, Dave mentioned in an earlier thread, in your defense, he likes hearing about Iona and your insight!
I also appreciate your post today on Scott Machado over on redmen. LOL! It was a plant to bring Michelle out! The only response by co-inki-dink!
Cluess has had a personal grudge with SJ ever since he transferred after his junior year to eventually get fewer minutes at Hofstra. He would not have never brokered a deal for Machado to SJ if it killed him!
Peace brother!
Please stop calling out posters. It's a dead issue and I've repeatedly asked you and others to stop. This thread is about Chris Obepka not you, Marco, or off topics.
Hey, fair enough! So here is an exclusive for you....Chris is down to two schools. SJ leads. Only problem, he wants a package deal.
Your turn.
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Can you elaborate on package deal?
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Can you elaborate on package deal?
Yes please do. And on a side note you're friends on redmen are wrong, I'm neither of those posters
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We should start a new thread. What is Marcos name on Redmen? LOL
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Is it the Felix Balomou kid from OSNA?
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Is it the Felix Balomou kid from OSNA?
As far as I can tell, he's most package worthy, so hopefully it is him. Not sure staff would want anyone else from that team.
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shelton and greg jones were a package deal and it was worthwhile.
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Can you elaborate on package deal?
Jesus. He knows nothing. Hello!
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Is it the Felix Balomou kid from OSNA?
As far as I can tell, he's most package worthy, so hopefully it is him. Not sure staff would want anyone else from that team.
Even Balamou is really marginal for this level. He's a good athlete and runs well, but is really raw and not really doing himself a service if he is interested in packaging himself with Obekpa. I don't know if that is the case, but just responding to the idea it might be Balamou. Really would love Obekpa here. Hopefully we get that done without a package deal. Obekpa would be a great fit for SJU and SJU would be a fantastic fit for him. Our African connection up front would have some real athleticism and skill. Obekpa's shotblocking is only matched by Nerlens Noel.
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Can you elaborate on package deal?
it's a syracuse expression. the assistant coaches there have to check out your package before they offer.
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Can you elaborate on package deal?
it's a syracuse expression. the assistant coaches there have to check out your package before they offer.
I needed a good laugh.
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Staying on topic, he was at the game last night.
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I think Obekpa could be a nice addition for us. It would be nice to have a shot blocker looming at the back of the zone like the kid from lousiville. Even if he is raw offensively he could help out the zone by allowing others to overplay like lousiville does
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Staying on topic, he was at the game last night.
Awesome that he got to see that display.
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Staying on topic, he was at the game last night.
Awesome that he got to see that display.
It's the perfect setting actually. What he saw was a team that needed him badly. Contrast that with Dieng on the court for Louisville and how can he not say "I can do that for SJU". No better recruiting pitch than showing him how badly we need an inside presence like him in the paint next season.
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Staying on topic, he was at the game last night.
Awesome that he got to see that display.
It's the perfect setting actually. What he saw was a team that needed him badly. Contrast that with Dieng on the court for Louisville and how can he not say "I can do that for SJU". No better recruiting pitch than showing him how badly we need an inside presence like him in the paint next season.
Is the sun always out where you live? :)
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Staying on topic, he was at the game last night.
Awesome that he got to see that display.
It's the perfect setting actually. What he saw was a team that needed him badly. Contrast that with Dieng on the court for Louisville and how can he not say "I can do that for SJU". No better recruiting pitch than showing him how badly we need an inside presence like him in the paint next season.
Is the sun always out where you live? :)
I was halfway joking, but didn't put a winky face there. If I'm a player, I personally would want to go where I can play. How could a player like him not be excited at an opportunity at immediate PT in a game where there was a glaring need for his services? That's all that I'm saying. I feel the same way about Gathers. If he likes SJU already, he only needs to take a quick look and see that the PF spot is waiting for him to step right in to. No-brainers IMHO. Oh, and Moose, it will only be sunny if we land these guys.
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How could a player like him not be excited at an opportunity at immediate PT in a game where there was a glaring need for his services?
This here is wisdom.
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Staying on topic, he was at the game last night.
Awesome that he got to see that display.
It's the perfect setting actually. What he saw was a team that needed him badly. Contrast that with Dieng on the court for Louisville and how can he not say "I can do that for SJU". No better recruiting pitch than showing him how badly we need an inside presence like him in the paint next season.
How often have we landed a good recruit because we showed them that we needed them? See Samardo Samuels. See Lance Stephenson. See Edgar Sosa. See Corey Fisher. See Kemba Walker. See anyone over the last 10 years, except last year. Kids want to jump on bandwagon. Not be a savior. Balls like that are rare.
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the student section was chanting "we want..."? i couldn't catch the name. does anyone know?
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Staying on topic, he was at the game last night.
Awesome that he got to see that display.
It's the perfect setting actually. What he saw was a team that needed him badly. Contrast that with Dieng on the court for Louisville and how can he not say "I can do that for SJU". No better recruiting pitch than showing him how badly we need an inside presence like him in the paint next season.
How often have we landed a good recruit because we showed them that we needed them? See Samardo Samuels. See Lance Stephenson. See Edgar Sosa. See Corey Fisher. See Kemba Walker. See anyone over the last 10 years, except last year. Kids want to jump on bandwagon. Not be a savior. Balls like that are rare.
Please don't reference recruits from the Norm Roberts era as an example. People wanted to stay away from here. Lavin has a good track record, exciting style, history of putting players in the NBA and a different presence entirely. Regardless of yesterday's score, and kid can see the exciting style we play and how good we will be with more bodies and experience. Nobody has to come in and be a savior. We already have 2 freshmen scoring 15+ ppg. If I'm a guy like Obekpa, Gathers, Sampson, I'd be thrilled to see a roster with only lone senior God's Gift to compete with, no logjam and a cast of other talented young players. IMO a guy like Gathers would be nuts not to want to step in here and be a double-double guy next to Harkless and Obekpa/Gift from day 1.
Forget seeing kids like the ones you mention. See Mo Harkless, D'Angelo Harrison, Sir'Dom etc. Those guys don't need a bandwagon. A few more of those types and others will jump on the bandwagon. If Lavin adds 5 top notch recruits this season, the bandwagon will begin next year.
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MCN, I was responding to last night's performance creating recruiting opportunities for us. It won't. Lavin gets healthy, and gets back out there, we'll probably start to get recruits again. That's what we need more than anything. Scoring 58 points at home against an overrated Louisville team doesn't show opportunity to anyone.
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the student section was chanting "we want..."? i couldn't catch the name. does anyone know?
We were chanting "We Want Higgins" in reference to the awful reffing. We were not aware of any recruits at the game.
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Unlike Gathers and Pelle, the NYC connection of Obekpa is important, and not only in the way we see it with Harkless. He is Nigerian. He came from Nigeria in Sept 2010. Probably could have gone to high school anywhere but wanted to be in NYC. NYC offers an opportunity to be a part (and remain a part) of the African community. Just like God's Gift, who incidentally comes from the same region of Nigeria as Obekpa. And just like the top 30 recruit landed by the SJU women's team, Sandra Udobi-Ofogu, who comes from this same region of Nigeria. Lots of social upside to Obekpa staying right where he is, since NYC has the largest Nigerian community in North America (Atlanta, DC, and Houston -- think Hakeem O -- have the other sizeable Nigerian immigrant populations). SJU has a huge number of Nigerians in the student body who also have a reputation for being among the top students at the university and are well organized.
Let's hope that Obekpa follows his country-man, GG, to SJU -- as well as fellow NYC prep star Harkless!
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If he wanted to be in NYC what's he doing in Centereach? (I can say that, I'm from out that way) ; )
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With Lavin Watching, Chris Obekpa Blocks 20 Shots
http://www.zagsblog.com/2012/01/12/with-lavin-watching-chris-obekpa-blocks-20-shots/ (http://www.zagsblog.com/2012/01/12/with-lavin-watching-chris-obekpa-blocks-20-shots/)
Obekpa notched 11 points, 15 rebounds and 20 blocks as unbeaten Our Savior (11-0) beat National Christian (Md.), 87-56, at Our Savior.
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damn a triple double. 20 blocks is just nasty
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20 blocks! Wow. Lock this kid up coach!
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Quote on redmen.com from the assistant coach on Obekpa's squad that Lavs is personally working him. And checking in on Ballamou (sp?). Seems like Uconn and their success with big men is going to be our main comp here, but who knows.
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Quote on redmen.com from the assistant coach on Obekpa's squad that Lavs is personally working him. And checking in on Ballamou (sp?). Seems like Uconn and their success with big men is going to be our main comp here, but who knows.
Cincy and Providence fans think they are in it too. Sounds like hes gonna be BE regardless.
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Quote on redmen.com from the assistant coach on Obekpa's squad that Lavs is personally working him. And checking in on Ballamou (sp?). Seems like Uconn and their success with big men is going to be our main comp here, but who knows.
Uconn has led the nation in blocked shots for something like 7 yrs in a row so if this kid is that good of a shot blocker you can rest assured Calhoun will want to sign this kid very badly. Hope we get him-been dying for a shot blocker deluxe for the almost 40 yrs I have been following the Johnnies.
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Eric Jaklitsch his coach is a real good guy. Guy lives in the gym with his players. He was sick as a dog at the end of July but he was there till the very last game watching Obekpa on New Heights nearly 4 hours away from his home. Needs to be more guys like that in the game.
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We need Obekpa. He should be our priority because his shotblocking skills are a game changer, especially with our gambling style of defense. We can trap all we want but guys beating our zone if we reach for a steal will have to contend with this guy waiting to wipe shots off the glass. He is great getting up and down the court as well. We don't need big plodder's here. We need guys like this for their defensive ability. He'd block a ton of shots in college as well because his timing is amazing and he has long arms.
I'm not keen on taking Balamou as a scholarship player, but that is for Lavin to decide. No problem with having him use a scholarship this season and only renew on a yearly basis, because we might not use all ships this season otherwise.
Uconn has several centers and always has about 6 bigs in the roster. Even Oriakhi doesn't play now. Obekpa would make a big mistake going to Uconn. Calhoun won't be there for long either. At SJU, there is zero competition for Obekpa for at least a year or two except for Gift who will be a senior. Can't beat that scenario. No brainer.
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I know Cincy and Prov are involved too, but I perceive Uconn as, by far, the biggest threat given their success in developing big men.
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Hopefully having gift here will help aid his recruitment. We really do need a shot blocker with the team we have put together and the way were built to play.
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Felix is just an athletic freak. He's more of a mid major guy with high major athleticism.
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Felix is just an athletic freak. He's more of a mid major guy with high major athleticism.
Saw the St. Rays game on You Tube. Reminds me of an Alpha Bangura with a better handle and vision. Aka mid major ;)
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Felix is just an athletic freak. He's more of a mid major guy with high major athleticism.
G'town under the prior John Thompson mad a living with great athletes who weren't necessarily skilled hoopsters. Of course he had his share of very talented players also. Point being we will probably have a lot of skilled players so a freak athlete wouldn't be the worst thing. How big is he and what position does he play?
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I know Cincy and Prov are involved too, but I perceive Uconn as, by far, the biggest threat given their success in developing big men.
Looking like they can't count Thabeet on their list of successes. Number two overall has played in just two games in his third season with his numbers declining each year. And you cant say he left a year early.
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Felix is just an athletic freak. He's more of a mid major guy with high major athleticism.
Saw the St. Rays game on You Tube. Reminds me of an Alpha Bangura with a better handle and vision. Aka mid major ;)
Long, athletic..the kind of kid that can really grow in a system over four years, right? Not every kid has to be a star. There is also the possibility of redshirting and it's great to have a freak athlete around to give the starters good looks in practice.
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Felix is just an athletic freak. He's more of a mid major guy with high major athleticism.
Saw the St. Rays game on You Tube. Reminds me of an Alpha Bangura with a better handle and vision. Aka mid major ;)
Long, athletic..the kind of kid that can really grow in a system over four years, right? Not every kid has to be a star. There is also the possibility of redshirting and it's great to have a freak athlete around to give the starters good looks in practice.
I agree. I was impressed with how he handled the ball and his vision. No question we can't have all 4 and 5 star players. If I had to take Felix to get Obekpa I do it in a heartbeat.
Always liked Bangura. He just had nobody to coach him.
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Felix is just an athletic freak. He's more of a mid major guy with high major athleticism.
Saw the St. Rays game on You Tube. Reminds me of an Alpha Bangura with a better handle and vision. Aka mid major ;)
Long, athletic..the kind of kid that can really grow in a system over four years, right? Not every kid has to be a star. There is also the possibility of redshirting and it's great to have a freak athlete around to give the starters good looks in practice.
I agree. I was impressed with how he handled the ball and his vision. No question we can't have all 4 and 5 star players. If I had to take Felix to get Obekpa I do it in a heartbeat.
Always liked Bangura. He just had nobody to coach him.
Bangura couldn't shoot. He had a highly inflated sense of his own worth/abilities and when jarvii didn't start him or give him more pt he quit.
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Bangura was awful. Thought he was Michael f'n Jordan. Can't blame that one on Jarvis. He shot 7% from three.
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If we as fans are going to wax poetic about former players who go to lesser conferences and blow up (ala) Cedric and Tyshawn among others the shoe must fit the other foot as well. Bangura was player of the year in whatever conference he played in and pretty sure he got some run in the NBDL. If Jarvis had 'coaches' on his staff as opposed to family members maybe Bangura could have been something.
I'd encourage those to watch videos of Felix. These are actual games posted on You Tube not just highlight packages.
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Not every kid is going to be a star right away. Every team needs glue guys who will stick around for 4 years and develop into real solid players over time.
I agree with Moose. If getting him gets us Obekpa and Obekpa can anchor center for us and give us that inside defensive presence we need I'm all for it.
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Felix is certainly not bad. I just like shooting guards who can shoot. If it gets us obekpa, I don't have a problem with him on board, but I still think he's a reach at this level right now. He needs perimeter game.
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If we as fans are going to wax poetic about former players who go to lesser conferences and blow up (ala) Cedric and Tyshawn among others the shoe must fit the other foot as well. Bangura was player of the year in whatever conference he played in and pretty sure he got some run in the NBDL. If Jarvis had 'coaches' on his staff as opposed to family members maybe Bangura could have been something.
I'd encourage those to watch videos of Felix. These are actual games posted on You Tube not just highlight packages.
Agree Moose. Seem to remember Bangura going to NBDL and averaging about 15 a game. May have been circumstances and coaching that held back Bangura from showing his stuff at St J's.
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If we as fans are going to wax poetic about former players who go to lesser conferences and blow up (ala) Cedric and Tyshawn among others the shoe must fit the other foot as well. Bangura was player of the year in whatever conference he played in and pretty sure he got some run in the NBDL. If Jarvis had 'coaches' on his staff as opposed to family members maybe Bangura could have been something.
I'd encourage those to watch videos of Felix. These are actual games posted on You Tube not just highlight packages.
Agree Moose. Seem to remember Bangura going to NBDL and averaging about 15 a game. May have been circumstances and coaching that held back Bangura from showing his stuff at St J's.
Say what you want about Jarvis, but Bangura is responsible for Bangura sucking ass at St.John's.
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If we as fans are going to wax poetic about former players who go to lesser conferences and blow up (ala) Cedric and Tyshawn among others the shoe must fit the other foot as well. Bangura was player of the year in whatever conference he played in and pretty sure he got some run in the NBDL. If Jarvis had 'coaches' on his staff as opposed to family members maybe Bangura could have been something.
I'd encourage those to watch videos of Felix. These are actual games posted on You Tube not just highlight packages.
Agree Moose. Seem to remember Bangura going to NBDL and averaging about 15 a game. May have been circumstances and coaching that held back Bangura from showing his stuff at St J's.
Say what you want about Jarvis, but Bangura is responsible for Bangura sucking ass at St.John's.
Aren't you in a lovely mood tonight. :)
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Say what you want about Jarvis, but Bangura is responsible for Bangura sucking ass at St.John's.
Bangura probably spent more time focusing on getting his modeling career off the ground than on improving his game ... but Jarvis wasn't even trying by the time Bangura arrived.
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Bangura's first year here, Jarvis had a bunch of punks. Jessie, Cook etc.
Bangura was given ample opportunity to get his, but it seemed like he missed every shot he took.
He never created offense for another player. It was always all about him. You play the game like a black hole,
and yes, Jarvis won't like you. That team would lose to the worst and beat the best in the same week. I remember specifically, wins over Uconn, Nova, BC, Miami (twice) and Georgetown (on the road) but losses to Fordham, Hofstra and conference loser Virginia Tech.
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Per Rivals....
A strong team effort by Our Savior New American was too much for a young Mount Saint Joseph team. As far as prospects are concerned, 6-foot-8 Christopher Obekpa stood well above the crowd.
Despite playing sick, Obekpa dominated inside grabbing 13 rebounds and blocking eight shots. To go along with his length and athleticism, Obekpa has a knack for rebounding outside of his area.
Offensively, he is still raw (scored 10 points on 4-of-16 shooting from the field), but his jumper doesn't look bad and he has the plenty of potential.
Plenty of schools would love the opportunity to develop Obekpa. Head coaches Jim Calhoun, Steve Lavin and Mick Cronin were on hand to watch him play. A number of other schools are also pursuing him.
http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1319048 (http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1319048)
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Christopher Obekpa welcomes opponents to his block party (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4htfPHpctA#ws)
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Per Rivals....
A strong team effort by Our Savior New American was too much for a young Mount Saint Joseph team. As far as prospects are concerned, 6-foot-8 Christopher Obekpa stood well above the crowd.
Despite playing sick, Obekpa dominated inside grabbing 13 rebounds and blocking eight shots. To go along with his length and athleticism, Obekpa has a knack for rebounding outside of his area.
Offensively, he is still raw (scored 10 points on 4-of-16 shooting from the field), but his jumper doesn't look bad and he has the plenty of potential.
Not to nitpick but can anyone verify his size. He's seemed to have lost 2 inches already.
Plenty of schools would love the opportunity to develop Obekpa. Head coaches Jim Calhoun, Steve Lavin and Mick Cronin were on hand to watch him play. A number of other schools are also pursuing him.
http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1319048 (http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1319048)
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One of the things that sold me on Lavin in his first year was how he challenged and inspired his team to reach its full potential. Everyone on that team believed in themselves and the team, and players who had fallen by the wayside finally reached their full potential. Under Jarvis, that was not the case. He had some talent in his years with us but he was like a cancer that spread everywhere, affected team chemistry in which he played players off against one another, alienated the basketball alum family, and alienated the university. In the end, everything crashed like a house of cards. Bangura was one of the players who never came close to realizing his potential. Not saying Bangura had nothing to do with it. But great coaches are like great professors who set high standards and expectations, and they push their athletes and students to high levels. I suppose that a player like Bangura for me represents failings of a coach as much as of the individual player. I'd feel the same way about a student with potential who attended our great university yet failed to be inspired, failed to reach his/her potential, and in the end, failed out.
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Is this an Bangura thread or a Chris Obekpa recruiting thread???
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Imagine having that shotblocking? We would be able to put so much pressure on defense knowing big Chris is back there protecting the rim.
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Yes, this is an Obekpa thread. Sorry for the digression. Geez I hope he lands at SJU. A presence down low for some shot blocking and rebounding. Wish he just get onboard!
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Per NBE Basketball....
Chris Obekpa (Our Savior New American 2012) – While somewhat forgotten because it took place in the early 10AM game, Obekpa put on a shot blocking performance just about on par with everything Nerlens Noel did on live TV. He came just 2 blocks shy of posting a triple-double finishing with 10 points, 13 rebounds, and 8 rejections all while battling a nasty cold. Obekpa is the premier shot blocker in the 2012 class and perhaps most impressively is able to swat and alter so many shots without picking up fouls. His offense is still well behind his defense but he does show signs that he can eventually be an impact player on that end as well. He has solid form on his jump shot and makes athletic plays above the rim. Obekpa needs to drastically improve his handle as he isn’t comfortable putting the ball on the floor at all but it must be remembered he has only been playing basketball for a few years.
http://www.nbebasketball.com/w3/2012-0116/hoophall-classic-2012-sunday-recap/ (http://www.nbebasketball.com/w3/2012-0116/hoophall-classic-2012-sunday-recap/)
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Per Rivals....
5. Is Obekpa more than just a shot blocker?
It's not that there is much doubt about whether or not Christopher Obekpa belongs on the list of the nation's premier shot blockers. We are just curious to get another couple of looks at the athletic 6-foot-8 insider from Centerreach (N.Y.) Our Savior New American. In addition to getting another look at his shot blocking and rebounding prowess, we'll be looking to evaluate his offense more closely. While he didn't finish particularly well last weekend at the Hoophall Classic, he showed some touch and form on his jumper, along with quick spin moves to suggest that he's not quite as offensively limited as some have made him out to be.
http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1320973 (http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1320973)
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Bangura was awful. Thought he was Michael f'n Jordan. Can't blame that one on Jarvis. He shot 7% from three.
He raised that to 18.1% in the Philippines last year but he's been playing for pay ever since he left St Johns. Now signed to play in Venezuela this year.
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IMO, we need to go all out to sign him. Even if he is offensively limited in his first year, his presence would completely change the look of our lineup. To have a big time rebounder and shot blocker in the middle would be an unbelievably huge addition.
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Bangura was awful. Thought he was Michael f'n Jordan. Can't blame that one on Jarvis. He shot 7% from three.
He raised that to 18.1% in the Philippines last year but he's been playing for pay ever since he left St Johns. Now signed to play in Venezuela this year.
Yes, I wish no ill will, but as a D1 player in the BE, he was a disease.
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On Depaul's campus for an official visit per Dave Telep and Evan Daniels on twitter.
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Although there maybe other recruits who are more talented and/or have more upside, I believe that he is the most important recruit to get because he fills in the biggest weakness the team has right now.
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Although there maybe other recruits who are more talented and/or have more upside, I believe that he is the most important recruit to get because he fills in the biggest weakness the team has right now.
He can shoot from outside?
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Although there maybe other recruits who are more talented and/or have more upside, I believe that he is the most important recruit to get because he fills in the biggest weakness the team has right now.
He can shoot from outside?
And block 3 shots a game :2funny:
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A poster (per Redmen.com) who seems to have some affiliation with Our Savior stated, Opekpa will visit St. John's later in the week.
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A poster (per Redmen.com) who seems to have some affiliation with Our Savior stated, Opekpa will visit St. John's later in the week.
Our Savior? Felipe Lopez?
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You know, it's great that he can do this and that, but what good is it if St. John's does sign any of these recruits?
The problem right now is that we're short 3 or 4 players and we're not signing anybody (or) it doesn't appear that we lead for any top recruits for our 2012 class/next years recruiting class.
We lost Pele, Gathers, Sampson, Linsey, Woods etc. and replaced them so far with a traansfer from Texas A & M. True or not true?
You know I hate to say this, "but talk gets cheap after awhile". We OBVIOUSLY need to start signing some players and Steve Lavin needs to get healthy and back on the sideline again ASAP where he's more visible to recruits.
We're looking another long brutal season on the BB-court of finishing with a below .500 team record overall. Not good guys...
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I'd like to add that I like the hire of Steve Lavin. I think he's an outstanding natural recruiter with a good eye for talent, and it's unfortunate that he bame ill and I feel bad for him that he did (tough break). However, we're falling behind a little again both on the BB-court and in recruiting for what-ever the reason(s) and we need to get it going again soon otherwise we could be looking at another bad consecutive run of years at St. John's.
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You know, it's great that he can do this and that, but what good is it if St. John's does sign any of these recruits?
The problem right now is that we're short 3 or 4 players and we're not signing anybody (or) it doesn't appear that we lead for any top recruits for our 2012 class/next years recruiting class.
We lost Pele, Gathers, Sampson, Linsey, Woods etc. and replaced them so far with a traansfer from Texas A & M. True or not true?
You know I hate to say this, "but talk gets cheap after awhile". We OBVIOUSLY need to start signing some players and Steve Lavin needs to get healthy and back on the sideline again ASAP where he's more visible to recruits.
We're looking another long brutal season on the BB-court of finishing with a below .500 team record overall. Not good guys...
We lost Pele?? There is a soccer joke in there somewhere!
We lost Linsey Corbin? She is a great triathlete! Is that a new sport at St. John's?
Last year was not a long, brutal season or did you miss us beating 6 nationally ranked teams with players Norm recruited but could not get to post-season.
You're correct...coach Lavin needs to get healthy.
How much more visible can Lav get with recruits than sitting a few feet from them at their games?
We will finish below .500. Lav returning will not change that.
Lav will sign some players very soon.
Read Norm Vincent Peale and all will be well soon.
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Very, much so! No doubt about it is him, Moose.
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Like the fella say, it appears our boy's done sometin rash.
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Choz, if you're referring to the headline "DePaul Adds Top Shot Blocker?" on ESPN insider it's incredibly misleading. All the article says is that they're surprised he visited DePaul first, lists all the schools that were presumed to be his finalists and then says they'll let readers know if the visit puts DePaul on the list. Could be the kid just wanted to see Chi-Town. ; )
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Choz, if you're referring to the headline "DePaul Adds Top Shot Blocker?" on ESPN insider it's incredibly misleading. All the article says is that they're surprised he visited DePaul first, lists all the schools that were presumed to be his finalists and then says they'll let readers know if the visit puts DePaul on the list. Could be the kid just wanted to see Chi-Town. ; )
Sorry yo. Got caught up wit evrytin.
My comments in no way have nuthin to do wit CO
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Choz, if you're referring to the headline "DePaul Adds Top Shot Blocker?" on ESPN insider it's incredibly misleading. All the article says is that they're surprised he visited DePaul first, lists all the schools that were presumed to be his finalists and then says they'll let readers know if the visit puts DePaul on the list. Could be the kid just wanted to see Chi-Town. ; )
Sorry yo. Got caught up wit evrytin.
My comments in no way have nuthin to do wit CO
Choz, think he's a Johnny? What about Gathers and Sampson? Think they come?
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Choz-I appreciate the Bobby Darin reference!
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Nice to see that he is visiting. Hopefully Dele Coker can be around along with GG. Two fellow countryman can't hurt, right? Wasnt Mo Diakate also Nigerian?
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ESPN released their new 2012 rankings. Obekpa with the huge 40 spot jump to #49. In other STJ recruiting news, Gathers appears at #34 and Winston Shepard at #52.
http://espn.go.com/college-sports//basketball/recruiting/playerrankings/_/view/espnu100/sort/rank/class/2012 (http://espn.go.com/college-sports//basketball/recruiting/playerrankings/_/view/espnu100/sort/rank/class/2012)
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ESPN released their new 2012 rankings. Obekpa with the huge 40 spot jump to #49. In other STJ recruiting news, Gathers appears at #34 and Winston Shepard at #52.
http://espn.go.com/college-sports//basketball/recruiting/playerrankings/_/view/espnu100/sort/rank/class/2012 (http://espn.go.com/college-sports//basketball/recruiting/playerrankings/_/view/espnu100/sort/rank/class/2012)
Obekpa deserves it. He's a defensive game-changer. #49 might be a little bit high for a guy who still needs some offensive work, but Obekpa no doubt is top 70 kid. Gathers might be a bit low ranked for his dominance at his position. Gathers should be in the 20's somewhere. Shepard about right IMO.
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ESPN released their new 2012 rankings. Obekpa with the huge 40 spot jump to #49. In other STJ recruiting news, Gathers appears at #34 and Winston Shepard at #52.
http://espn.go.com/college-sports//basketball/recruiting/playerrankings/_/view/espnu100/sort/rank/class/2012 (http://espn.go.com/college-sports//basketball/recruiting/playerrankings/_/view/espnu100/sort/rank/class/2012)
Obekpa deserves it. He's a defensive game-changer. #49 might be a little bit high for a guy who still needs some offensive work, but Obekpa no doubt is top 70 kid. Gathers might be a bit low ranked for his dominance at his position. Gathers should be in the 20's somewhere. Shepard about right IMO.
ESPN Insider also reports that while Jakarr cannot be ranked among the class of 2012 given his current status, his ranking within the 2012 class would range between 22-32.
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ESPN released their new 2012 rankings. Obekpa with the huge 40 spot jump to #49. In other STJ recruiting news, Gathers appears at #34 and Winston Shepard at #52.
http://espn.go.com/college-sports//basketball/recruiting/playerrankings/_/view/espnu100/sort/rank/class/2012 (http://espn.go.com/college-sports//basketball/recruiting/playerrankings/_/view/espnu100/sort/rank/class/2012)
Obekpa deserves it. He's a defensive game-changer. #49 might be a little bit high for a guy who still needs some offensive work, but Obekpa no doubt is top 70 kid. Gathers might be a bit low ranked for his dominance at his position. Gathers should be in the 20's somewhere. Shepard about right IMO.
I would like STJ to take a full run at Sheppard, cannot sit around forever waiting on Sampson. He knows what we are all about at this point and it's either come or eliminate STJ.
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RELAX YO'ALL ;D
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You know, it's great that he can do this and that, but what good is it if St. John's does sign any of these recruits?
The problem right now is that we're short 3 or 4 players and we're not signing anybody (or) it doesn't appear that we lead for any top recruits for our 2012 class/next years recruiting class.
We lost Pele, Gathers, Sampson, Linsey, Woods etc. and replaced them so far with a traansfer from Texas A & M. True or not true?
You know I hate to say this, "but talk gets cheap after awhile". We OBVIOUSLY need to start signing some players and Steve Lavin needs to get healthy and back on the sideline again ASAP where he's more visible to recruits.
We're looking another long brutal season on the BB-court of finishing with a below .500 team record overall. Not good guys...
Not worried about our recruiting class. We will get our share of the guys we're involved with. Plus in the spring you always have quality guys who shake loose, whose availability you could not have predicted.
I'm more concerned about this years team getting a bit discouraged.
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Me too Derk. I hope no reason for concern. That has been a reason I unlike some on board feel wins real important regardless of how low expectations are or should be. No program thats any good accepts losing as a way of life.
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ESPN released their new 2012 rankings. Obekpa with the huge 40 spot jump to #49. In other STJ recruiting news, Gathers appears at #34 and Winston Shepard at #52.
http://espn.go.com/college-sports//basketball/recruiting/playerrankings/_/view/espnu100/sort/rank/class/2012 (http://espn.go.com/college-sports//basketball/recruiting/playerrankings/_/view/espnu100/sort/rank/class/2012)
That 50 range is right in our sweet spot.
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"He also plans to visit St. John’s again, although that could be an unofficial"
http://www.zagsblog.com/2012/01/27/obekpa-visits-depaul-has-four-remaining/#more-66123 (http://www.zagsblog.com/2012/01/27/obekpa-visits-depaul-has-four-remaining/#more-66123)
Think we get an official visit?
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He aint going to Depaul and if anybody says they know where hes headed their lying
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He aint going to Depaul and if anybody says they know where hes headed their lying
Been a while since you posted '79. What kind of class do you think Coach Lavin is going to reel in for 2012? Any predictions?
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He aint going to Depaul and if anybody says they know where hes headed their lying
It seems like his list gets longer every week, i'm thinking this thing drags out
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You know, it's great that all of these SJU prospective recruits can do this and that, but what good is it if St. John's doesn't sign any of these same recruits?
The problem right now is that we're short 3 or 4 players and we're not signing anybody (or) it doesn't appear that we lead for any top recruits for our 2012 class/next years recruiting class.
We lost Pele, Gathers, Sampson, Linsey, Woods etc. and replaced them so far with a transfer from Texas A & M. True or not true?
You know I hate to say this, "but talk gets cheap after awhile". We OBVIOUSLY need to start signing some players and Steve Lavin needs to get healthy and back on the sideline again ASAP where he's more visible to recruits.
We're looking at another long brutal season on the BB-court finishing with a below .500 team record overall. Not good guys...
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Been a while since you posted '79. What kind of class do you think Coach Lavin is going to reel in for 2012? Any predictions?
- Tough to get a handle. Stating the obvious but Lav's situation isn't helping. I know Gathers really WANTS to come. He's right there with Jakarr and Chris is a wild card. He is also reaching out to a few others and trying to get in late with some players not previously mentioned. I know none of this really helps but if I find out anything more concrete or new developments Ill keep posting what I know. Lastly dont worry about MO going to the Association, hes coming back.
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Been a while since you posted '79. What kind of class do you think Coach Lavin is going to reel in for 2012? Any predictions?
- Tough to get a handle. Stating the obvious but Lav's situation isn't helping. I know Gathers really WANTS to come. He's right there with Jakarr and Chris is a wild card. He is also reaching out to a few others and trying to get in late with some players not previously mentioned. I know none of this really helps but if I find out anything more concrete or new developments Ill keep posting what I know. Lastly dont worry about MO going to the Association, hes coming back.
Any idea what's holding Jakarr up from re-committing?
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Been a while since you posted '79. What kind of class do you think Coach Lavin is going to reel in for 2012? Any predictions?
- Tough to get a handle. Stating the obvious but Lav's situation isn't helping. I know Gathers really WANTS to come. He's right there with Jakarr and Chris is a wild card. He is also reaching out to a few others and trying to get in late with some players not previously mentioned. I know none of this really helps but if I find out anything more concrete or new developments Ill keep posting what I know. Lastly dont worry about MO going to the Association, hes coming back.
Any idea what's holding Jakarr up from re-committing?
Been a while since you posted '79. What kind of class do you think Coach Lavin is going to reel in for 2012? Any predictions?
- Tough to get a handle. Stating the obvious but Lav's situation isn't helping. I know Gathers really WANTS to come. He's right there with Jakarr and Chris is a wild card. He is also reaching out to a few others and trying to get in late with some players not previously mentioned. I know none of this really helps but if I find out anything more concrete or new developments Ill keep posting what I know. Lastly dont worry about MO going to the Association, hes coming back.
Any idea what's holding Jakarr up from re-committing?
Been a while since you posted '79. What kind of class do you think Coach Lavin is going to reel in for 2012? Any predictions?
- Tough to get a handle. Stating the obvious but Lav's situation isn't helping. I know Gathers really WANTS to come. He's right there with Jakarr and Chris is a wild card. He is also reaching out to a few others and trying to get in late with some players not previously mentioned. I know none of this really helps but if I find out anything more concrete or new developments Ill keep posting what I know. Lastly dont worry about MO going to the Association, hes coming back.
Any idea what's holding Jakarr up from re-committing?
What would be your guess?
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Been a while since you posted '79. What kind of class do you think Coach Lavin is going to reel in for 2012? Any predictions?
- Tough to get a handle. Stating the obvious but Lav's situation isn't helping. I know Gathers really WANTS to come. He's right there with Jakarr and Chris is a wild card. He is also reaching out to a few others and trying to get in late with some players not previously mentioned. I know none of this really helps but if I find out anything more concrete or new developments Ill keep posting what I know. Lastly dont worry about MO going to the Association, hes coming back.
Any idea what's holding Jakarr up from re-committing?
Been a while since you posted '79. What kind of class do you think Coach Lavin is going to reel in for 2012? Any predictions?
- Tough to get a handle. Stating the obvious but Lav's situation isn't helping. I know Gathers really WANTS to come. He's right there with Jakarr and Chris is a wild card. He is also reaching out to a few others and trying to get in late with some players not previously mentioned. I know none of this really helps but if I find out anything more concrete or new developments Ill keep posting what I know. Lastly dont worry about MO going to the Association, hes coming back.
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Any idea what's holding Jakarr up from re-committing?
Been a while since you posted '79. What kind of class do you think Coach Lavin is going to reel in for 2012? Any predictions?
- Tough to get a handle. Stating the obvious but Lav's situation isn't helping. I know Gathers really WANTS to come. He's right there with Jakarr and Chris is a wild card. He is also reaching out to a few others and trying to get in late with some players not previously mentioned. I know none of this really helps but if I find out anything more concrete or new developments Ill keep posting what I know. Lastly dont worry about MO going to the Association, hes coming back.
Any idea what's holding Jakarr up from re-committing?
What would be your guess?
My guess would be the Brewster coach or Lavin's health. The problem is that IMO if Lavin hasn't proven to Gathers and Jakarr by now, then he better get back on the court soon because it isn't going to happen.
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Been a while since you posted '79. What kind of class do you think Coach Lavin is going to reel in for 2012? Any predictions?
- Tough to get a handle. Stating the obvious but Lav's situation isn't helping. I know Gathers really WANTS to come. He's right there with Jakarr and Chris is a wild card. He is also reaching out to a few others and trying to get in late with some players not previously mentioned. I know none of this really helps but if I find out anything more concrete or new developments Ill keep posting what I know. Lastly dont worry about MO going to the Association, hes coming back.
Any idea what's holding Jakarr up from re-committing?
Been a while since you posted '79. What kind of class do you think Coach Lavin is going to reel in for 2012? Any predictions?
- Tough to get a handle. Stating the obvious but Lav's situation isn't helping. I know Gathers really WANTS to come. He's right there with Jakarr and Chris is a wild card. He is also reaching out to a few others and trying to get in late with some players not previously mentioned. I know none of this really helps but if I find out anything more concrete or new developments Ill keep posting what I know. Lastly dont worry about MO going to the Association, hes coming back.
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Any idea what's holding Jakarr up from re-committing?
Been a while since you posted '79. What kind of class do you think Coach Lavin is going to reel in for 2012? Any predictions?
- Tough to get a handle. Stating the obvious but Lav's situation isn't helping. I know Gathers really WANTS to come. He's right there with Jakarr and Chris is a wild card. He is also reaching out to a few others and trying to get in late with some players not previously mentioned. I know none of this really helps but if I find out anything more concrete or new developments Ill keep posting what I know. Lastly dont worry about MO going to the Association, hes coming back.
Any idea what's holding Jakarr up from re-committing?
What would be your guess?
My guess would be the Brewster coach or Lavin's health. The problem is that IMO if Lavin hasn't proven to Gathers and Jakarr by now, then he better get back on the court soon because it isn't going to happen.
I hope it's about Coach. He's dispelled the idea/rumor/speculation by some that he won't be back at all, just a matter of recruits believing he'll be front and center next season. We believe he will be on the floor, but the late appearance I hoped for this season (with even a restrained version of coach on the floor - lol - easier said than done) would clear any doubts up.
I've worried (N.B. - w/ admitted blind speculation) that J Smith will try to steer JS towards the JHawks, being that T Robinson will be a lottery pick. I still think a better fit is with his guys here, and see this to fruition 2-3 years from now, but at least we know if JaKarr comes here, he's going to be totally committed to getting it done. We all can smell this huge opportunity to immediately elevate with JaKarr, Rico + hopefully 1 other to complement Jamal, so I patiently await good news. But nothing's guaranteed in life, so I'm going to be feeling great if the guys come our way to continue the upswing.
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We need this kid. It couldn't have been more apparent on saturday that we need a big man who rebounds and protects the paint, and Obekpa is the best of both worlds. The amount of 2nd chances Duke got by grabbing offensive rebounds against our undersized team killed us, and if we had a kid like Obekpa it would have been a totally different game.
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Been a while since you posted '79. What kind of class do you think Coach Lavin is going to reel in for 2012? Any predictions?
- Tough to get a handle. Stating the obvious but Lav's situation isn't helping. I know Gathers really WANTS to come. He's right there with Jakarr and Chris is a wild card. He is also reaching out to a few others and trying to get in late with some players not previously mentioned. I know none of this really helps but if I find out anything more concrete or new developments Ill keep posting what I know. Lastly dont worry about MO going to the Association, hes coming back.
Any idea what's holding Jakarr up from re-committing?
Been a while since you posted '79. What kind of class do you think Coach Lavin is going to reel in for 2012? Any predictions?
- Tough to get a handle. Stating the obvious but Lav's situation isn't helping. I know Gathers really WANTS to come. He's right there with Jakarr and Chris is a wild card. He is also reaching out to a few others and trying to get in late with some players not previously mentioned. I know none of this really helps but if I find out anything more concrete or new developments Ill keep posting what I know. Lastly dont worry about MO going to the Association, hes coming back.
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Any idea what's holding Jakarr up from re-committing?
Been a while since you posted '79. What kind of class do you think Coach Lavin is going to reel in for 2012? Any predictions?
- Tough to get a handle. Stating the obvious but Lav's situation isn't helping. I know Gathers really WANTS to come. He's right there with Jakarr and Chris is a wild card. He is also reaching out to a few others and trying to get in late with some players not previously mentioned. I know none of this really helps but if I find out anything more concrete or new developments Ill keep posting what I know. Lastly dont worry about MO going to the Association, hes coming back.
Any idea what's holding Jakarr up from re-committing?
What would be your guess?
My guess would be the Brewster coach or Lavin's health. The problem is that IMO if Lavin hasn't proven to Gathers and Jakarr by now, then he better get back on the court soon because it isn't going to happen.
I hope it's about Coach. He's dispelled the idea/rumor/speculation by some that he won't be back at all, just a matter of recruits believing he'll be front and center next season. We believe he will be on the floor, but the late appearance I hoped for this season (with even a restrained version of coach on the floor - lol - easier said than done) would clear any doubts up.
I've worried (N.B. - w/ admitted blind speculation) that J Smith will try to steer JS towards the JHawks, being that T Robinson will be a lottery pick. I still think a better fit is with his guys here, and see this to fruition 2-3 years from now, but at least we know if JaKarr comes here, he's going to be totally committed to getting it done. We all can smell this huge opportunity to immediately elevate with JaKarr, Rico + hopefully 1 other to complement Jamal, so I patiently await good news. But nothing's guaranteed in life, so I'm going to be feeling great if the guys come our way to continue the upswing.
While coach's health remains the #1 priority agree it is at least of symbolic importance that he return to the bench before the end of the season for giving the recruits confidence he will be on the bench next year. I say this only if it does not jeopardize his health and one way he can do this is by taking a page out of his old mentor John Wooden's book by just sitting on the bench with a rolled up program and just letting the game play out. I know this is easier said than done but he has been doing all other duties with discipline and when something really needs to be done you sometimes just have to do it. Maybe take a sedative or something.
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Slightly OT but related, Nerlens Noel reclassified to the 2012 class today. Obekpa has trams like Uconn, providence and others pursuing. Wondering if it could at least marginally help us with Obekpa. Really need to land this kid. He's the next best shot blocker to Noel.
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Slightly OT but related, Nerlens Noel reclassified to the 2012 class today. Obekpa has trams like Uconn, providence and others pursuing. Wondering if it could at least marginally help us with Obekpa. Really need to land this kid. He's the next best shot blocker to Noel.
Noel I think is between Cuse and Kentucky. Might help us keeping Gathers away from Kentucky if anything.
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Slightly OT but related, Nerlens Noel reclassified to the 2012 class today. Obekpa has trams like Uconn, providence and others pursuing. Wondering if it could at least marginally help us with Obekpa. Really need to land this kid. He's the next best shot blocker to Noel.
Noel I think is between Cuse and Kentucky. Might help us keeping Gathers away from Kentucky if anything.
Bennett can help us too with UK.
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Besides visiting depaul we haven't heard much about Chris's favorites or him trimming down his list. Assuming UK never offers, does it look like SJU and UCONN lead for him?
That zags article says he has some other very high offers: Texas, UCLA, Florida .... But we haven't heard much about other teams pursuing him hard besides us uconn and providence. Unless Im missing something
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with Gathers gone, i think i'd rather have Obekpa than sampson. We need his shot blocking and rebounding ability. Obekpa, plus a juco fwd, and maybe a sharp shooter, plus branch is not a bad class to add to what we have now.
we'll get our next harkless in the 2013 class.
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How are his grades?
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I want to get him and Sampson. Although I will admit he may fit our needs the most.
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I want to get him and Sampson. Although I will admit he may fit our needs the most.
At this point, imo both are absolute musts
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I want to get him and Sampson. Although I will admit he may fit our needs the most.
At this point, imo both are absolute musts
I agree. Gotta have both.
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I want to get him and Sampson. Although I will admit he may fit our needs the most.
At this point, imo both are absolute musts
I've agreed with you twice tonight, Baldi. LOL It's now imperative we nab both of those kids.
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Everybody is forgetting about Sheppard. Hes a great talent.
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I want to get him and Sampson. Although I will admit he may fit our needs the most.
At this point, imo both are absolute musts
I've agreed with you twice tonight, Baldi. LOL It's now imperative we nab both of those kids.
Agree, agree, agree. Must say, however, that while Lavin might have prioritized Sampson and Obekpa over Gathers (at least I'm telling myself this), it is very discouraging that our former recruit, Gathers, tells everyone who would listen that he was going to wait until the spring to make his decision, and then he turns around and chooses Baylor before the spring signing period even starts. Stating the obvious (one of my few strengths), it would really help our recruiting efforts if at least ONE of our targeted recruits commits soon.
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I want to get him and Sampson. Although I will admit he may fit our needs the most.
At this point, imo both are absolute musts
I've agreed with you twice tonight, Baldi. LOL It's now imperative we nab both of those kids.
Agree, agree, agree. Must say, however, that while Lavin might have prioritized Sampson and Obekpa over Gathers (at least I'm telling myself this), it is very discouraging that our former recruit, Gathers, tells everyone who would listen that he was going to wait until the spring to make his decision, and then he turns around and chooses Baylor before the spring signing period even starts. Stating the obvious (one of my few strengths), it would really help our recruiting efforts if at least ONE of our targeted recruits commits soon.
It will also help our nerves if 1 of the targeted recruits commits soon.
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http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=159571044140761&set=a.159571034140762.33306.100002635994162&type=1&theater (http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=159571044140761&set=a.159571034140762.33306.100002635994162&type=1&theater)
6'9? Hes the one in the back-middle
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http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=159571044140761&set=a.159571034140762.33306.100002635994162&type=1&theater (http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=159571044140761&set=a.159571034140762.33306.100002635994162&type=1&theater)
6'9? Hes the one in the back-middle
Thats some weird angle because it has Omar Calhoun being almost as tall as Noel and taller than Chris.
Look at the YouTube vids on the basketball diary's page. He is legit in size.
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@BSnowScout: Look for uncommitted four-star center Chris Obekpa to visit St. John's this weekend
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@BSnowScout: Look for uncommitted four-star center Chris Obekpa to visit St. John's this weekend
It's not us. He's visiting uconn according to BSnowScout.
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Felix Balamou is visiting SJU this weekend. He's Obekpa's current teammate, and some claim that Obekpa has a strong desire to play with him in college.
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We could use another shooter, sign them both up.
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Felix Balamou is visiting SJU this weekend. He's Obekpa's current teammate, and some claim that Obekpa has a strong desire to play with him in college.
Can Balamou shoot it?
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Man, we need this kid in the worst way. I am a little bummed about the inconsistencies with the players and I think getting some big timer would boost the morale
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Felix Balamou is visiting SJU this weekend. He's Obekpa's current teammate, and some claim that Obekpa has a strong desire to play with him in college.
Can Balamou shoot it?
I didn't think so. Thought he was more of an athlete/slasher
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Felix Balamou is visiting SJU this weekend. He's Obekpa's current teammate, and some claim that Obekpa has a strong desire to play with him in college.
Man, we need this kid in the worst way. I am a little bummed about the inconsistencies with the players and I think getting some big timer would boost the morale
Felix Balamou is visiting SJU this weekend. He's Obekpa's current teammate, and some claim that Obekpa has a strong desire to play with him in college.
Can Balamou shoot it?
I didn't think so. Thought he was more of an athlete/slasher
Can Balamou shoot it?
I didn't think so. Thought he was more of an athlete/slasher
Definitely not a shooter. Don't we have enough? Kidding!
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He was at the providence game after his visit to uconn
christopherewao Jst left uconn heading to providence... College tour ;) I'm freezing tho
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He was at the providence game after his visit to uconn
christopherewao Jst left uconn heading to providence... College tour ;) I'm freezing tho
I was at that game but didn't see him, Good news for us is neither team he visited today was competitive
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Zags:
After watching Nerlens Noel & JaKarr Sampson last night, Ed Cooley & the Providence staff will watch Chris Obekpa tonight. #workinghard
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Zags:
After watching Nerlens Noel & JaKarr Sampson last night, Ed Cooley & the Providence staff will watch Chris Obekpa tonight. #workinghard
Whats with the working hard hashtag? Is Zags getting paid by Cooley?
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Obekpa visiting Cincinnati tomorrow and Thursday, including their game against Louisville Thurs night.
Hopefully Pitino blows them out on their own court.
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Cooley should be working hard on his 3rd win.
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Zags:
After watching Nerlens Noel & JaKarr Sampson last night, Ed Cooley & the Providence staff will watch Chris Obekpa tonight. #workinghard
Whats with the working hard hashtag? Is Zags getting paid by Cooley?
It's Zags wonderfully impartial reporting of recruiting news. Of course, he's on twitter cuz he's a twit.
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Coach visiting Obekpa?
“@STJCoachLavin: Back out on the recruiting trails tonight. Gotta keep grinding, Johnnies' style. #HammerToRock #stjbb”
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Lavs seeing Whitehead of Lincoln
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Lavs seeing Whitehead of Lincoln
May be a good sign that he looking ahead.
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Lavs seeing Whitehead of Lincoln
I'm actually thinking he may be there more for senior 6'8" PF Tafari Whittingham. Whittingham is a fantastic athlete that's used to playing in the post. A little bit raw but is a deer on the court and is long and has a great motor. He fits the profile of guys we are recruiting. With our desperate need for frontcourt help, a local Lincoln kid like this wouldn't hurt us at all. He plays C and PF for Lincoln, so he certainly could provide depth at PF.
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Lavs seeing Whitehead of Lincoln
I'm actually thinking he may be there more for senior 6'8" PF Tafari Whittingham. Whittingham is a fantastic athlete that's used to playing in the post. A little bit raw but is a deer on the court and is long and has a great motor. He fits the profile of guys we are recruiting. With our desperate need for frontcourt help, a local Lincoln kid like this wouldn't hurt us at all. He plays C and PF for Lincoln, so he certainly could provide depth at PF.
Makes alot of sense actually. Not sure he is a big east player at this point but from what i've seen he seemed to have some game and we definitely need some big bodies. Speaking of former Lincoln big men what's up with Jordan Dickerson. Last I heard he was prepping at IMG but he was 7'0 and supposedly was athletic. Does anyone know whats going on with him & if he could be a target
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Lavs seeing Whitehead of Lincoln
I'm actually thinking he may be there more for senior 6'8" PF Tafari Whittingham. Whittingham is a fantastic athlete that's used to playing in the post. A little bit raw but is a deer on the court and is long and has a great motor. He fits the profile of guys we are recruiting. With our desperate need for frontcourt help, a local Lincoln kid like this wouldn't hurt us at all. He plays C and PF for Lincoln, so he certainly could provide depth at PF.
Makes alot of sense actually. Not sure he is a big east player at this point but from what i've seen he seemed to have some game and we definitely need some big bodies. Speaking of former Lincoln big men what's up with Jordan Dickerson. Last I heard he was prepping at IMG but he was 7'0 and supposedly was athletic. Does anyone know whats going on with him & if he could be a target
Longshot to qualify. He's not too bright on the court either but yea he's huge.
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He's not too bright on the court either
Ouch
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I'm actually thinking he may be there more for senior 6'8" PF Tafari Whittingham. Whittingham is a fantastic athlete that's used to playing in the post. A little bit raw but is a deer on the court and is long and has a great motor. He fits the profile of guys we are recruiting. With our desperate need for frontcourt help, a local Lincoln kid like this wouldn't hurt us at all. He plays C and PF for Lincoln, so he certainly could provide depth at PF.
I'm of the school of thought that we only need two talented big men and a guard, so I'm all for a project or two in addition to (fingers crossed) Obekpa, Sampson, and a guard to be named later.
If this guy fits the bill athletically and doesn't mind sitting for a couple of years, sign him up.
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Lavs seeing Whitehead of Lincoln
I'm actually thinking he may be there more for senior 6'8" PF Tafari Whittingham. Whittingham is a fantastic athlete that's used to playing in the post. A little bit raw but is a deer on the court and is long and has a great motor. He fits the profile of guys we are recruiting. With our desperate need for frontcourt help, a local Lincoln kid like this wouldn't hurt us at all. He plays C and PF for Lincoln, so he certainly could provide depth at PF.
It would be good.
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Who was the last player to finish a playing career with Tiny Morton a Lincoln High School and have any real impact at the Div I level.?
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Who was the last player to finish a playing career with Tiny Morton a Lincoln High School and have any real impact at the Div I level.?
Lance is the only one I can remember even playing D-1 straight out of Lincoln, and his impact was minimal. Does Bobby H. want the gig back?
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in all fairness, Sebastien Telfair would have had he not gone straight to the NBA.
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James Padgett and Vincent Council are playing at Maryland and Providence respectively now.
Council may have had another stop in between Lincoln and Providence.
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Eugene Lawrence
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Eugene Lawrence
I think he only did one year at Lincoln.
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James Padgett and Vincent Council are playing at Maryland and Providence respectively now.
Council may have had another stop in between Lincoln and Providence.
Like Lawrence, I think Padgett only did one year. Not enough time for Tiny to screw them up too much. ;D
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Vincent Counsel didn't start or finish his high school basketball career at Lincoln High School. He started at Xaverian and was part of a group of kids that transfered to Lincoln because Tiny got in their ears and one of them, James Padgett, couldn't handle the school work. Counsel finished his career at Patterson School in North Carolina, then went to Providence
Padgett is avergaging 9ppg & 6rpg on a middle of the road Maryland team. I would not call that impact.
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I didn't claim they had impact. I was just naming players that I remembered that had played for Lincoln during parts of their HS careers.
Misunderstood the previous posts then.
As for impact then, I can't think of any.
I don't even think Lance was impact at Cinc.
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I'm actually thinking he may be there more for senior 6'8" PF Tafari Whittingham. Whittingham is a fantastic athlete that's used to playing in the post. A little bit raw but is a deer on the court and is long and has a great motor. He fits the profile of guys we are recruiting. With our desperate need for frontcourt help, a local Lincoln kid like this wouldn't hurt us at all. He plays C and PF for Lincoln, so he certainly could provide depth at PF.
I'm of the school of thought that we only need two talented big men and a guard, so I'm all for a project or two in addition to (fingers crossed) Obekpa, Sampson, and a guard to be named later.
If this guy fits the bill athletically and doesn't mind sitting for a couple of years, sign him up.
If we get Sampson and Obekpa along with Branch we have a very, very good class. Add another player or so with upside like Phil Greene or a shooter for depth and we don't lose a step. I really hope we can land Sampson and obekpa. We will be hard to stop if we do.
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I'm actually thinking he may be there more for senior 6'8" PF Tafari Whittingham. Whittingham is a fantastic athlete that's used to playing in the post. A little bit raw but is a deer on the court and is long and has a great motor. He fits the profile of guys we are recruiting. With our desperate need for frontcourt help, a local Lincoln kid like this wouldn't hurt us at all. He plays C and PF for Lincoln, so he certainly could provide depth at PF.
I'm of the school of thought that we only need two talented big men and a guard, so I'm all for a project or two in addition to (fingers crossed) Obekpa, Sampson, and a guard to be named later.
If this guy fits the bill athletically and doesn't mind sitting for a couple of years, sign him up.
If we get Sampson and Obekpa along with Branch we have a very, very good class. Add another player or so with upside like Phil Greene or a shooter for depth and we don't lose a step. I really hope we can land Sampson and obekpa. We will be hard to stop if we do.
Landing both would be a home run at this point. I would be happy to land one of the two. Lavin was on a radio show yesterday and said he expected to sign "3 or 4 " recruits for 2012. If its only three, 2, at minimum, have to be bigs.
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Vincent Counsel didn't start or finish his high school basketball career at Lincoln High School. He started at Xaverian and was part of a group of kids that transfered to Lincoln because Tiny got in their ears and one of them, James Padgett, couldn't handle the school work. Counsel finished his career at Patterson School in North Carolina, then went to Providence
Padgett is avergaging 9ppg & 6rpg on a middle of the road Maryland team. I would not call that impact.
He's the leading rebounder and 3rd leading scorer, hitting over 51% from the field.
You and I apparently have very different definitions of "impact"....
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I'm actually thinking he may be there more for senior 6'8" PF Tafari Whittingham. Whittingham is a fantastic athlete that's used to playing in the post. A little bit raw but is a deer on the court and is long and has a great motor. He fits the profile of guys we are recruiting. With our desperate need for frontcourt help, a local Lincoln kid like this wouldn't hurt us at all. He plays C and PF for Lincoln, so he certainly could provide depth at PF.
I'm of the school of thought that we only need two talented big men and a guard, so I'm all for a project or two in addition to (fingers crossed) Obekpa, Sampson, and a guard to be named later.
If this guy fits the bill athletically and doesn't mind sitting for a couple of years, sign him up.
If we get Sampson and Obekpa along with Branch we have a very, very good class. Add another player or so with upside like Phil Greene or a shooter for depth and we don't lose a step. I really hope we can land Sampson and obekpa. We will be hard to stop if we do.
At this point we need 3 big men and a shooter. Sampson is the key.
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If you're on twitter follow Chris @christopherewao
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I'm actually thinking he may be there more for senior 6'8" PF Tafari Whittingham. Whittingham is a fantastic athlete that's used to playing in the post. A little bit raw but is a deer on the court and is long and has a great motor. He fits the profile of guys we are recruiting. With our desperate need for frontcourt help, a local Lincoln kid like this wouldn't hurt us at all. He plays C and PF for Lincoln, so he certainly could provide depth at PF.
I'm of the school of thought that we only need two talented big men and a guard, so I'm all for a project or two in addition to (fingers crossed) Obekpa, Sampson, and a guard to be named later.
If this guy fits the bill athletically and doesn't mind sitting for a couple of years, sign him up.
If we get Sampson and Obekpa along with Branch we have a very, very good class. Add another player or so with upside like Phil Greene or a shooter for depth and we don't lose a step. I really hope we can land Sampson and obekpa. We will be hard to stop if we do.
"If" if if if if....
When are we going to ACTUALLY START getting somebody or how about anybody other than zero current commitments? Is that not true or am I making this question up at this point? Right now the fact is as things stand, we're numerous scholarship players short on the St. John's roster going into next season and many of the top prospects are commiting elsewhere.
We like to blow a lot of hot air here, but talk gets cheap after awhile. I hope I start seeing some top national recruits commiting to SJU very soon so that I can stop asking this question. However, we currently stand at (0) commitments and we need a handful/5 more.
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I'm actually thinking he may be there more for senior 6'8" PF Tafari Whittingham. Whittingham is a fantastic athlete that's used to playing in the post. A little bit raw but is a deer on the court and is long and has a great motor. He fits the profile of guys we are recruiting. With our desperate need for frontcourt help, a local Lincoln kid like this wouldn't hurt us at all. He plays C and PF for Lincoln, so he certainly could provide depth at PF.
I'm of the school of thought that we only need two talented big men and a guard, so I'm all for a project or two in addition to (fingers crossed) Obekpa, Sampson, and a guard to be named later.
If this guy fits the bill athletically and doesn't mind sitting for a couple of years, sign him up.
If we get Sampson and Obekpa along with Branch we have a very, very good class. Add another player or so with upside like Phil Greene or a shooter for depth and we don't lose a step. I really hope we can land Sampson and obekpa. We will be hard to stop if we do.
"If" if if if if....
When are we going to ACTUALLY START getting somebody or how about anybody other than zero current commitments? Is that not true or am I making this question up at this point? Right now the fact is as things stand, we're numerous scholarship players short on the St. John's roster going into next season and many of the top prospects are commiting elsewhere.
We like to blow a lot of hot air here, but talk gets cheap after awhile. I hope I start seeing some top national recruits commiting to SJU very soon so that I can stop asking this question. However, we currently stand at (0) commitments and we need a handful/5 more.
You said it yourself...."talk is cheap".
So lets discuss what we know....
-we have a young team improving every day
-we have a top notch staff (in game and on a national recruiting level)
-2 Big East all Freshman Team members
-Jamal Branch Eligible in Dec. Top 50 2011 recruit
With no additions or subtractions....the 7 players we have for next year will lead us to the NCAA Toruney
I also believe we will have more than 7 scholarship players next year. So it would not surprise me if we are playing on the 2nd weekend of the NCAA's next year. Regardless of who else we sign on.
I know the doubters will talk about kool-aid and everything else. Bottom line....we don't need 13 scholarship players to make a successful season next year. We really only need 1 addition and we're legit Sweet 16 material.
I really believe we will land a TOP recruiting class that everyone is looking for in the class of 2013. So sit back and enjoy these kids competing their tails off because we wouldn't have had any of these kids with the prior regime.
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"If" if if if if....
When are we going to ACTUALLY START getting somebody or how about anybody other than zero current commitments? Is that not true or am I making this question up at this point? Right now the fact is as things stand, we're numerous scholarship players short on the St. John's roster going into next season and many of the top prospects are commiting elsewhere.
We like to blow a lot of hot air here, but talk gets cheap after awhile. I hope I start seeing some top national recruits commiting to SJU very soon so that I can stop asking this question. However, we currently stand at (0) commitments and we need a handful/5 more.
How goddamn stupid are you, buki? When does the signing period start? Please tell me.
The only good thing about you is that you stopped incorrectly using the phrase "You can bring a horse to water..." over and over and over again. Other than that, you bring absolutely nothing to the boards. No basketball knowledge, no insight, no humor. Nothing.
The best part is that you'll disappear once we get recruits. Just like you disappear after victories.
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Vincent Counsel didn't start or finish his high school basketball career at Lincoln High School. He started at Xaverian and was part of a group of kids that transfered to Lincoln because Tiny got in their ears and one of them, James Padgett, couldn't handle the school work. Counsel finished his career at Patterson School in North Carolina, then went to Providence
Padgett is avergaging 9ppg & 6rpg on a middle of the road Maryland team. I would not call that impact.
For Brooklyn info you listen to PMG. For the Bronx you listen to KOB and Choz. For Iona updates you have Marco. And for updates on side cleavage you have WASJU.
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I'm actually thinking he may be there more for senior 6'8" PF Tafari Whittingham. Whittingham is a fantastic athlete that's used to playing in the post. A little bit raw but is a deer on the court and is long and has a great motor. He fits the profile of guys we are recruiting. With our desperate need for frontcourt help, a local Lincoln kid like this wouldn't hurt us at all. He plays C and PF for Lincoln, so he certainly could provide depth at PF.
I'm of the school of thought that we only need two talented big men and a guard, so I'm all for a project or two in addition to (fingers crossed) Obekpa, Sampson, and a guard to be named later.
If this guy fits the bill athletically and doesn't mind sitting for a couple of years, sign him up.
If we get Sampson and Obekpa along with Branch we have a very, very good class. Add another player or so with upside like Phil Greene or a shooter for depth and we don't lose a step. I really hope we can land Sampson and obekpa. We will be hard to stop if we do.
"If" if if if if....
When are we going to ACTUALLY START getting somebody or how about anybody other than zero current commitments? Is that not true or am I making this question up at this point? Right now the fact is as things stand, we're numerous scholarship players short on the St. John's roster going into next season and many of the top prospects are commiting elsewhere.
We like to blow a lot of hot air here, but talk gets cheap after awhile. I hope I start seeing some top national recruits commiting to SJU very soon so that I can stop asking this question. However, we currently stand at (0) commitments and we need a handful/5 more.
You said it yourself...."talk is cheap".
So lets discuss what we know....
-we have a young team improving every day
-we have a top notch staff (in game and on a national recruiting level)
-2 Big East all Freshman Team members
-Jamal Branch Eligible in Dec. Top 50 2011 recruit
With no additions or subtractions....the 7 players we have for next year will lead us to the NCAA Toruney
I also believe we will have more than 7 scholarship players next year. So it would not surprise me if we are playing on the 2nd weekend of the NCAA's next year. Regardless of who else we sign on.
I know the doubters will talk about kool-aid and everything else. Bottom line....we don't need 13 scholarship players to make a successful season next year. We really only need 1 addition and we're legit Sweet 16 material.
I really believe we will land a TOP recruiting class that everyone is looking for in the class of 2013. So sit back and enjoy these kids competing their tails off because we wouldn't have had any of these kids with the prior regime.
"We only need one addition to make the Sweet Sixteen". (lol)
Keep dreaming pal! Keep slurping it! The Kool-Aid Club will love that opinion. The Kool-Aid Club are perennial positive and always optimistic yet unrealistic losers, that's what they are and that's their M.O. They dream of unrealistic glory because they can't see the unfortunate reality that exists, than we lose, than they spin and than the vicious cycle starts all over again and by doing that over & over again they inadvertently become the barrier to future success. "With friends like them we don't need enemies", because they're always more than satisfied with mediocrity and not only that, but they support it. They always become part of the fan-base that protects the losing system that for what-ever reason(s) isn't winning or working but yet it's good enough for them. These were the same fans who supported Norm Roberts. Now is Lavin another Roberts? NO not even close, but right now things are not working both in recruiting and on the basketball court and in regard to building a better stronger winning program. EX: Transfers, academic casualties, De-commitments. Sound familiar? Didn't Norm Roberts experience that as well?
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I think if we can add 3 guys that can defend the paint, and rebound this group will be able to win the games that they lost vs teams like Arizona, Texas A&M, Nova, Duke & GTown. In those games, we played well enough to win, but we ran out of players and gas.
We surrender a dozen free baskets just because we don't have a body in there to defend.
Greene, Harrison, Harkless, Garrett and Pointer will all score more next year. Scoring won't be our problem. We need enforcers down low. This is where Obekpa is such an important recruit.
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Keep dreaming pal! Keep slurping it! The Kool-Aid Club will love that opinion. The Kool-Aid Club are perennial positive and always optimistic yet unrealistic losers, that's what they are and that's their M.O. They dream of unrealistic glory because they can't see the unfortunate reality that exists, than we lose, than they spin and than the vicious cycle starts all over again and by doing that over & over again they inadvertently become the barrier to future success. "With friends like them we don't need enemies", because they're always more than satisfied with mediocrity and not only that, but they support it. They always become part of the fan-base that protects the losing system that for what-ever reason(s) isn't winning or working but yet it's good enough for them. These were the same fans who supported Norm Roberts. Now is Lavin another Roberts? NO not even close, but right now things are not working both in recruiting and on the basketball court and in regard to building a better stronger winning program. EX: Transfers, academic casualties, De-commitments. Sound familiar? Didn't Norm Roberts experience that as well?
What, exactly, are you trying to accomplish?
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Keep dreaming pal! Keep slurping it! The Kool-Aid Club will love that opinion. The Kool-Aid Club are perennial positive and always optimistic yet unrealistic losers, that's what they are and that's their M.O. They dream of unrealistic glory because they can't see the unfortunate reality that exists, than we lose, than they spin and than the vicious cycle starts all over again and by doing that over & over again they inadvertently become the barrier to future success. "With friends like them we don't need enemies", because they're always more than satisfied with mediocrity and not only that, but they support it. They always become part of the fan-base that protects the losing system that for what-ever reason(s) isn't winning or working but yet it's good enough for them. These were the same fans who supported Norm Roberts. Now is Lavin another Roberts? NO not even close, but right now things are not working both in recruiting and on the basketball court and in regard to building a better stronger winning program. EX: Transfers, academic casualties, De-commitments. Sound familiar? Didn't Norm Roberts experience that as well?
What, exactly, are you trying to accomplish?
I think he's trying to fill the negative view of the world void created by the departures of IllWill and Realfan. He's doing a good job.
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I'm actually thinking he may be there more for senior 6'8" PF Tafari Whittingham. Whittingham is a fantastic athlete that's used to playing in the post. A little bit raw but is a deer on the court and is long and has a great motor. He fits the profile of guys we are recruiting. With our desperate need for frontcourt help, a local Lincoln kid like this wouldn't hurt us at all. He plays C and PF for Lincoln, so he certainly could provide depth at PF.
I'm of the school of thought that we only need two talented big men and a guard, so I'm all for a project or two in addition to (fingers crossed) Obekpa, Sampson, and a guard to be named later.
If this guy fits the bill athletically and doesn't mind sitting for a couple of years, sign him up.
If we get Sampson and Obekpa along with Branch we have a very, very good class. Add another player or so with upside like Phil Greene or a shooter for depth and we don't lose a step. I really hope we can land Sampson and obekpa. We will be hard to stop if we do.
"If" if if if if....
When are we going to ACTUALLY START getting somebody or how about anybody other than zero current commitments? Is that not true or am I making this question up at this point? Right now the fact is as things stand, we're numerous scholarship players short on the St. John's roster going into next season and many of the top prospects are commiting elsewhere.
We like to blow a lot of hot air here, but talk gets cheap after awhile. I hope I start seeing some top national recruits commiting to SJU very soon so that I can stop asking this question. However, we currently stand at (0) commitments and we need a handful/5 more.
Coach Cooley, I'm impressed that you have time to post here. I understand the importance recruiting has in your plan--seeing as you are the worst in-game coach in the Big East. You know your only chance of not getting canned in three years is to land two more top 75 players.
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I'm actually thinking he may be there more for senior 6'8" PF Tafari Whittingham. Whittingham is a fantastic athlete that's used to playing in the post. A little bit raw but is a deer on the court and is long and has a great motor. He fits the profile of guys we are recruiting. With our desperate need for frontcourt help, a local Lincoln kid like this wouldn't hurt us at all. He plays C and PF for Lincoln, so he certainly could provide depth at PF.
I'm of the school of thought that we only need two talented big men and a guard, so I'm all for a project or two in addition to (fingers crossed) Obekpa, Sampson, and a guard to be named later.
If this guy fits the bill athletically and doesn't mind sitting for a couple of years, sign him up.
If we get Sampson and Obekpa along with Branch we have a very, very good class. Add another player or so with upside like Phil Greene or a shooter for depth and we don't lose a step. I really hope we can land Sampson and obekpa. We will be hard to stop if we do.
"If" if if if if....
When are we going to ACTUALLY START getting somebody or how about anybody other than zero current commitments? Is that not true or am I making this question up at this point? Right now the fact is as things stand, we're numerous scholarship players short on the St. John's roster going into next season and many of the top prospects are commiting elsewhere.
We like to blow a lot of hot air here, but talk gets cheap after awhile. I hope I start seeing some top national recruits commiting to SJU very soon so that I can stop asking this question. However, we currently stand at (0) commitments and we need a handful/5 more.
You said it yourself...."talk is cheap".
So lets discuss what we know....
-we have a young team improving every day
-we have a top notch staff (in game and on a national recruiting level)
-2 Big East all Freshman Team members
-Jamal Branch Eligible in Dec. Top 50 2011 recruit
With no additions or subtractions....the 7 players we have for next year will lead us to the NCAA Toruney
I also believe we will have more than 7 scholarship players next year. So it would not surprise me if we are playing on the 2nd weekend of the NCAA's next year. Regardless of who else we sign on.
I know the doubters will talk about kool-aid and everything else. Bottom line....we don't need 13 scholarship players to make a successful season next year. We really only need 1 addition and we're legit Sweet 16 material.
I really believe we will land a TOP recruiting class that everyone is looking for in the class of 2013. So sit back and enjoy these kids competing their tails off because we wouldn't have had any of these kids with the prior regime.
"We only need one addition to make the Sweet Sixteen". (lol)
Keep dreaming pal! Keep slurping it! The Kool-Aid Club will love that opinion. The Kool-Aid Club are perennial positive and always optimistic yet unrealistic losers, that's what they are and that's their M.O. They dream of unrealistic glory because they can't see the unfortunate reality that exists, than we lose, than they spin and than the vicious cycle starts all over again and by doing that over & over again they inadvertently become the barrier to future success. "With friends like them we don't need enemies", because they're always more than satisfied with mediocrity and not only that, but they support it. They always become part of the fan-base that protects the losing system that for what-ever reason(s) isn't winning or working but yet it's good enough for them. These were the same fans who supported Norm Roberts. Now is Lavin another Roberts? NO not even close, but right now things are not working both in recruiting and on the basketball court and in regard to building a better stronger winning program. EX: Transfers, academic casualties, De-commitments. Sound familiar? Didn't Norm Roberts experience that as well?
You use a lot of words that amount of absolutely nothing. We're on a 3 game winning streak, yet continue your banter about how bad the program is. Why don't you go find a Mets (sorry Mets fans) forum and spew your doom and gloom to them. Maybe they care!!!
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Recruit Scoop- Steve Lavin of St. John's saw Chris Obekpa, a 2012 PF from Our Savior (NY), yesterday. He's recently visited UConn, PC, DePaul & Cincy.
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Recruit Scoop- Steve Lavin of St. John's saw Chris Obekpa, a 2012 PF from Our Savior (NY), yesterday. He's recently visited UConn, PC, DePaul & Cincy.
I was just trying to find OSNA's schedule to see if he was the reason Lavin was in New Jersey.
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Recruit Scoop- Steve Lavin of St. John's saw Chris Obekpa, a 2012 PF from Our Savior (NY), yesterday. He's recently visited UConn, PC, DePaul & Cincy.
I was just trying to find OSNA's schedule to see if he was the reason Lavin was in New Jersey.
perhaps seeing Sina
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Recruit Scoop- Steve Lavin of St. John's saw Chris Obekpa, a 2012 PF from Our Savior (NY), yesterday. He's recently visited UConn, PC, DePaul & Cincy.
I was just trying to find OSNA's schedule to see if he was the reason Lavin was in New Jersey.
perhaps seeing Sina
Typo maybe? He could of meant NY but typed NJ
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“@TheRecruitScoop: Oregon's Dana Altman, UConn & St. John's are watching 2012 OSNA (NY) PF Chris Obekpa today. This is his final high school game.”
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“@TheRecruitScoop: Oregon's Dana Altman, UConn & St. John's are watching 2012 OSNA (NY) PF Chris Obekpa today. This is his final high school game.”
I have a bad feeling about Dana Altman all of a sudden getting involved in this recruiting process. I don't think the HC would fly cross country to kick the tires on a Long Island product if he didn't think he had a legitimate opportunity to reel him in.
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“@TheRecruitScoop: Oregon's Dana Altman, UConn & St. John's are watching 2012 OSNA (NY) PF Chris Obekpa today. This is his final high school game.”
I have a bad feeling about Dana Altman all of a sudden getting involved in this recruiting process. I don't think the HC would fly cross country to kick the tires on a Long Island product if he didn't think he had a legitimate opportunity to reel him in.
Not suprising really.Tomorrow is the St Paddy's day parade in huntington. He probably wanted to come out for that also and have the school pay for the trip :)
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“@TheRecruitScoop: Oregon's Dana Altman, UConn & St. John's are watching 2012 OSNA (NY) PF Chris Obekpa today. This is his final high school game.”
I have a bad feeling about Dana Altman all of a sudden getting involved in this recruiting process. I don't think the HC would fly cross country to kick the tires on a Long Island product if he didn't think he had a legitimate opportunity to reel him in.
Not suprising really.Tomorrow is the St Paddy's day parade in huntington. He probably wanted to come out for that also and have the school pay for the trip :)
Nike
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Recruit Scoop- Steve Lavin of St. John's saw Chris Obekpa, a 2012 PF from Our Savior (NY), yesterday. He's recently visited UConn, PC, DePaul & Cincy.
I was just trying to find OSNA's schedule to see if he was the reason Lavin was in New Jersey.
perhaps seeing Sina
I would think that getting Branch would rule us out for Sina
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“@AdamZagoria: Eric Jaklitsch on Chris Obekpa: "Chris hasn't made a decision on what he's going to do." #stjbb Updated story coming”
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“@AdamZagoria: Eric Jaklitsch on Chris Obekpa: "Chris hasn't made a decision on what he's going to do." #stjbb Updated story coming”
What "Updated story coming" mean? If there is no decision, what's the story?
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“@AdamZagoria: Eric Jaklitsch on Chris Obekpa: "Chris hasn't made a decision on what he's going to do." #stjbb Updated story coming”
What "Updated story coming" mean? If there is no decision, what's the story?
Knowing Zags, I'd expect about 4-5 recycled quotes--half or more that weren't even made to him and another that was made by text--and about 200 extra words to say exactly what he said in that tweet.
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“@AdamZagoria: Eric Jaklitsch on Chris Obekpa: "Chris hasn't made a decision on what he's going to do." #stjbb Updated story coming”
"Republicans haven't made a decision on who will be their candidate" Updated Story Coming
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WTF does this exchange between Obeka and a fan mean?
Sandy Udobi:
You should come too RT"@christopherewao: " S/O to my bro Felix on committing to St.Johns""
Obekpa chris:
@SUdobi they don pay abi lol (HUH?!)
Sandy Udobi:
Haha no oo...jus saying RT"@christopherewao: @SUdobi they don pay abi lol"
Obekpa chris:
@SUdobi ma spirit no join st johns for real I for show but its karma when ur spirit tell u something no do otherwise.. I for wan dey wif u (HUH?)
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Obekpa chris:
@SUdobi they don pay abi lol (HUH?!)
Clearly he's going to Kentucky.
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“@AdamZagoria: Eric Jaklitsch on Chris Obekpa: "Chris hasn't made a decision on what he's going to do." #stjbb Updated story coming”
What "Updated story coming" mean? If there is no decision, what's the story?
Knowing Zags, I'd expect about 4-5 recycled quotes--half or more that weren't even made to him and another that was made by text--and about 200 extra words to say exactly what he said in that tweet.
You know Zags as well as you know Lenn? Does he lift stuff from you like Lenn does?
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I literally have no idea what that means.
And looking at that exchange, I think that girl that tweeted him is a basketball player headed to our women's team.
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@SUdobi ma spirit no join st johns for real I for show but its karma when ur spirit tell u something no do otherwise.. I for wan dey wif u
anybody got a translator
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I took it as his heart isnt with st johns and its bad karma to go against your heart. But not im not a translator lol
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WTF does this exchange between Obeka and a fan mean?
Sandy Udobi:
You should come too RT"@christopherewao: " S/O to my bro Felix on committing to St.Johns""
Obekpa chris:
@SUdobi they don pay abi lol (HUH?!)
Sandy Udobi:
Haha no oo...jus saying RT"@christopherewao: @SUdobi they don pay abi lol"
Obekpa chris:
@SUdobi ma spirit no join st johns for real I for show but its karma when ur spirit tell u something no do otherwise.. I for wan dey wif u (HUH?)
It's Nigerian pidgin English, a derivative of British English but used in western Africa so the British wouldn't understand what the people were saying. I came across it while living in Ghana and always struggled to make heads or tails of it. Apologies for the less than helpful response.
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Sounds like his spirit is telling him not to go to St John's, and we're not paying either him or his spirit.
And that's Karma. ::)
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I took it as his heart isnt with st johns and its bad karma to go against your heart. But not im not a translator lol
Hope Lavs knows this... Not sure if this kid realizes these tweets are public...
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Sounds like his spirit is telling him not to go to St John's, and we're not paying either him or his spirit.
And that's Karma. ::)
He did clear sju of the payment factor. Not sure how well that bodes for any
School other than SjU signing him considering his very public tweets.
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My guess is Providence.
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http://www.ngex.com/personalities/babawilly/dictionary/pidginf.htm (http://www.ngex.com/personalities/babawilly/dictionary/pidginf.htm)
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Someone get Gift on this. He'll translate.
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Anyone get a screenshot? I just refreshed page and it no longer exists...
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It looks like he deleted it but whoever he was talking to still has it
http://mobile.twitter.com/sudobi (http://mobile.twitter.com/sudobi)
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Anyone get a screenshot? I just refreshed page and it no longer exists...
He did delete it. Makes you wonder about that "st. john's doesn't pay" comment. What are these other coaches offering him?
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OMG leave the kid alone.
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Someone get Gift on this. He'll translate.
this is hilarious!
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OMG leave the kid alone.
Exactly
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if "abi" means right, he said "they don't pay right lol"
Which says to me, he's just joking around and saying, oh ill jump on it now if they pay (but he's just joking). And my guess is if he's public with that, he's not looking for payment, just joking.
Who knows.
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WTF does this exchange between Obeka and a fan mean?
Sandy Udobi:
You should come too RT"@christopherewao: " S/O to my bro Felix on committing to St.Johns""
Obekpa chris:
@SUdobi they don pay abi lol (HUH?!)
Sandy Udobi:
Haha no oo...jus saying RT"@christopherewao: @SUdobi they don pay abi lol"
Obekpa chris:
@SUdobi ma spirit no join st johns for real I for show but its karma when ur spirit tell u something no do otherwise.. I for wan dey wif u (HUH?)
This is ground breaking stuff because he's not conversing with a fan he's conversing with a female student athlete committed to st johns and I looked up the term "abi" on Wikipedia and it's used at the beginning or end of a sentence as confirmation. So the question he proposed to her translated really was " they don't pay right" and She responded no
Let's stop this right here...I see where you are going chilleb, but you are also assuming you know what every other word mean. Pay could easily be something as well. This kid would not ask about paying over twitter. If he did, it would have to be about the stipend.
Mods, can we right this ship. This is a huge recruit for us and we can't have accusations like this out there.
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Someone get Gift on this. He'll translate.
He'd probably fight for great translating position, get the opportunity to translate, mess it up, cut off the Pitt translator trying to capitalize, and mess it up again only to have the Pitt translator tell us Obekpa was making a joke.
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I'm new to posting but been a fan forever and always reading these boards.
Now on to this topic, the pay subject was obviously a joke so ignore that. The other sentence definitely translates into that his spirit is not with st. John's and he is for sure. It's karma if he joins st. John's. I'm for one and they are for you.
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I'm new to posting but been a fan forever and always reading these boards.
Now on to this topic, the pay subject was obviously a joke so ignore that. The other sentence definitely translates into that his spirit is not with st. John's and he is for sure. It's karma if he joins st. John's. I'm for one and they are for you.
We are a catholic school. We have the Holy Spirit. How much more spirit can a school get ?
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I'm new to posting but been a fan forever and always reading these boards.
Now on to this topic, the pay subject was obviously a joke so ignore that. The other sentence definitely translates into that his spirit is not with st. John's and he is for sure. It's karma if he joins st. John's. I'm for one and they are for you.
We are a catholic school. We have the Holy Spirit. How much more spirit can a school get ?
We also have the mancer and he's got more spirit than anyone since Will Farrell.
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Twitter is the worst tool in the world for recruits. And fans! :2funny: :laugh: :D
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Sounds like his spirit is telling him not to go to St John's, and we're not paying either him or his spirit.
And that's Karma. ::)
...and Karma's a bitch LOL
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WTF does this exchange between Obeka and a fan mean?
Sandy Udobi:
You should come too RT"@christopherewao: " S/O to my bro Felix on committing to St.Johns""
Obekpa chris:
@SUdobi they don pay abi lol (HUH?!)
Sandy Udobi:
Haha no oo...jus saying RT"@christopherewao: @SUdobi they don pay abi lol"
Obekpa chris:
@SUdobi ma spirit no join st johns for real I for show but its karma when ur spirit tell u something no do otherwise.. I for wan dey wif u (HUH?)
This is ground breaking stuff because he's not conversing with a fan he's conversing with a female student athlete committed to st johns and I looked up the term "abi" on Wikipedia and it's used at the beginning or end of a sentence as confirmation. So the question he proposed to her translated really was " they don't pay right" and She responded no
Let's stop this right here...I see where you are going chilleb, but you are also assuming you know what every other word mean. Pay could easily be something as well. This kid would not ask about paying over twitter. If he did, it would have to be about the stipend.
Mods, can we right this ship. This is a huge recruit for us and we can't have accusations like this out there.
Look I totally understand where your coming from and agree just as much on the fact he is a huge recruit but at the end of the day what's right is right and wats wrong is wrong, as a avid Johnnie supporter the attempt wasn't to tarnish st.johns or the recruit, but to bring to light the level of foul play and dishonesty we all know of and is often dismissed. The tactics these other universities are using to lore in 17, and 18 year old kids is rediculous. As a fan base we've all been sitting on the edge of our seats patiently awaiting recruiting news and the fact that a potential recruit of ours chose to discuss his future with our program on a public social network puts the reader/consumer at fault? If it was in English it wouldn't be a problem or if it was translated to say "he was commiting next week" there wouldnt be an issue either. Regardless I'm all in favor of obekpa in a SJU uni '12
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Hopefully Tony Parker's spirit suddenly tells him that St. John's is where he should be.
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What we need is a poster who is a professional twitter analyzer. LOL
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Hopefully Tony Parker's spirit suddenly tells him that St. John's is where he should be.
Or Zena's SAT score was transposed LOL
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Funny those tweets are gone
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I'm new to posting but been a fan forever and always reading these boards.
Now on to this topic, the pay subject was obviously a joke so ignore that. The other sentence definitely translates into that his spirit is not with st. John's and he is for sure. It's karma if he joins st. John's. I'm for one and they are for you.
We are a catholic school. We have the Holy Spirit. How much more spirit can a school get ?
In addition, God's own Gift plays for us, we have a ton of spirit
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Hopefully he has a change of heart if the board's crack translation team is correct. It would have been so sweet to actually have a big-time shot blocker like big-time college programs do.
Maybe a huge earthquake will strike downtown Providence in the next day or so and he'll take that as a sign to come here.
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Hopefully he has a change of heart if the board's crack translation team is correct. It would have been so sweet to actually have a big-time shot blocker like big-time college programs do.
Maybe a huge earthquake will strike downtown Providence in the next day or so and he'll take that as a sign to come here.
I actually went to a Nigerian Pidgin English site for a minute LOL. Days like this are why I can't go without reading these sites. I was just telling myself nothing has happened for a long time, but I still checked an hour after my last visit and Balamou commits. Next thing I know I'm interpreting a language I didn't know existed!
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Hopefully he has a change of heart if the board's crack translation team is correct. It would have been so sweet to actually have a big-time shot blocker like big-time college programs do.
Maybe a huge earthquake will strike downtown Providence in the next day or so and he'll take that as a sign to come here.
I actually went to a Nigerian Pidgin English site for a minute LOL. Days like this are why I can't go without reading these sites. I was just telling myself nothing has happened for a long time, but I still checked an hour after my last visit and Balamou commits. Next thing I know I'm interpreting a language I didn't know existed!
Funny stuff.. I feel the same way.. And I am guilty of trying as well.. Safe to say that website isn't the same as Rosetta Stone :)
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No offense, but based on his "tweets", he comes off as a flake. That being said, If he wants to come here and grab 10 boards and block 4 shots a night, i don't care what language he speaks.
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if "abi" means right, he said "they don't pay right lol"
Which says to me, he's just joking around and saying, oh ill jump on it now if they pay (but he's just joking). And my guess is if he's public with that, he's not looking for payment, just joking.
Who knows.
"abi" means us or we........in all former English colonies the word "abi" is broken english meaning, " all of us" or "all of our kind"
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Obekpa chris:
@SUdobi ma spirit no join st johns for real I for show but its karma when ur spirit tell u something no do otherwise.. I for wan dey wif u (HUH?)
OK...here's my attempt at this
My gut tells me to not join St. John's for real, I'm sure of that. But you do have to say it's Karma when your gut tells you no but you do otherwise......I for one are with you.
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My interpretation is that he's hella hungry. Fasho.
By the way can anyone tell me what fasho means. Is it for sure? I have no idea what these kids are talking about. I actually liked tracking Kyle Anderson because I understood what the hell he was talking about.
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Obekpa chris:
@SUdobi ma spirit no join st johns for real I for show but its karma when ur spirit tell u something no do otherwise.. I for wan dey wif u (HUH?)
OK...here's my attempt at this
My gut tells me to not join St. John's for real, I'm sure of that. But you do have to say it's Karma when your gut tells you no but you do otherwise......I for one are with you.
I nominate you for johnnyjungle linguistic expert
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My interpretation is that he's hella hungry. Fasho.
By the way can anyone tell me what fasho means. Is it for sure? I have no idea what these kids are talking about. I actually liked tracking Kyle Anderson because I understood what the hell he was talking about.
For sure
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Ok guys I know you all have questions about what he was saying. So I brought in an expert to translate....
5 Best Rappers Of All Time (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixNY6oFXXTc#)
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This was his quote: "ma spirit no join st johns for real I for show but its karma when ur spirit tell u something no do otherwise.. I for wan dey wif u"
Here is a reliable translation from Nigerian pidgin:
"My spirit doesn't go with St. John's for real, I'm for sure. It's karma when your spirit tells you something. Don't do otherwise [that is, go against your spirit]. I should want to be with you."
I hate to say it, I've been accused of being overly positive in the past, but this doesn't look good. He says he spirit doesn't take SJU. He believes one shouldn't go against what they believe. He says he should want to be with us (but obviously doesn't feel he should).
The only other way to interpret the "I/I for/should wan/want dey/to be wif/with u/you" is that he is saying to the female he is talking to that "I should want to be with you (the girl). But that doesn't really work, since what he would say would be "I wan dey wif u" which means I want to be a couple with you.
Also, the bit on "pay" is a joke, but it certainly meant "pay". But it was a joke. Can't remember the exact language he used, the "abi" part is not important, sort of like "Isn't it?" but the "don pay" means simply "have payed".
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This is the silliest day ever on this board .
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Nothing silly. Lavin needs to put the full court press on Obekpa. Young people change their minds all the time, let's hope he does. I must say, though, its a bit of a kick in the gut. Also, my translation of his tweet has been confirmed by a pidgin speaker.
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I still think it is very creepy that grown men follow the Twitter accounts of teenage boys
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I've personally never used twitter and didn't read Obekpa's post. Only read it on this site. But isn't twitter supposed to be public, so that people follow "tweets", subscribe and the whole bit? This isn't exactly NEWS OF THE WORLD phonehacking scandal or reading someone's private emails.
Teenage boys? Yiikes. Just the reference sounds creepy! But we are not talking about middle schoolers, we're talking about teenagers like Harkless, thinking about cashing in on his NBA contract and Obekpa, a man 3x the size of a normal human being who is a game changer for a DI sports program.
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What we need is a poster who is a professional twitter analyzer. LOL
LOL
Like how NFL teams have a "capologist." Haha
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I've personally never used twitter and didn't read Obekpa's post. Only read it on this site. But isn't twitter supposed to be public, so that people follow "tweets", subscribe and the whole bit? This isn't exactly NEWS OF THE WORLD phonehacking scandal or reading someone's private emails.
Teenage boys? Yiikes. Just the reference sounds creepy! But we are not talking about middle schoolers, we're talking about teenagers like Harkless, thinking about cashing in on his NBA contract and Obekpa, a man 3x the size of a normal human being who is a game changer for a DI sports program.
Exactly
Whats the difference between a 'teenage' basketball player vs. a 'teenage' singer or entertainer. Public figures either way you slice it.
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Has anybody heard anything credible about Obekpa crossing St. John's off his list?
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I've personally never used twitter and didn't read Obekpa's post. Only read it on this site. But isn't twitter supposed to be public, so that people follow "tweets", subscribe and the whole bit? This isn't exactly NEWS OF THE WORLD phonehacking scandal or reading someone's private emails.
Teenage boys? Yiikes. Just the reference sounds creepy! But we are not talking about middle schoolers, we're talking about teenagers like Harkless, thinking about cashing in on his NBA contract and Obekpa, a man 3x the size of a normal human being who is a game changer for a DI sports program.
Exactly
Whats the difference between a 'teenage' basketball player vs. a 'teenage' singer or entertainer. Public figures either way you slice it.
Just to pile on the point, the fact that some posters here follow public twitter accounts of recruits/players and from time to time relay certain tweets onto these boards makes all of us who check the boards for such recruiting updates no different than the posters who follow the twitter accounts. I, for one, appreciate the twitter updates, for whatever they are worth.
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Having not commented on "Tweetgate", my opinion is that Chris is struggling with college choice. Hopefully, everything else in his life is going well. Additionally hope he has someone decent to guide him. Teen years are tough.
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i heard that he has us as one the top picks but providence is really recruiting him hard especially after the sampson return to st . john's
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I agree w Paultzman. I too think he is stuggling w the decision. Making very important decisions is tough at any age,especially at 18 years old. I may be prejudice but I am analytical. I feel UCONN is a great program, but has to many question marks w Calhouns health and sanctions. Although I give Cooley a lot of credit for recruiting, I think SJU is a better choice for him. We have a much better staff w NBA exp. they can really help develop his offensive game. This year w only 6 players, a sick coach.5 FR.,we still had a better season then Providence. We have no center so he can get plenty of PT on a very talented squad and be part of SJU rise to prominence.
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i heard that he has us as one the top picks but providence is really recruiting him hard especially after the sampson return to st . john's
i'm not worried about Providence. Cincy scares me, though.
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I heard is that Oregon is pursuing him. He's undecided with lots of choices.
I hope he chooses the local program that is becoming known for getting players to the next level.
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Agree w Marillac, hearing Cinci. Also, not sure of Obekpa's academic prognosis. Anyone?
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This ship has sailed
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This ship has sailed
Where will it be docking Pmg?
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This ship has sailed
Where will it be docking Pmg?
Riverfront.
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Cincy picked up a verbal today from JUCO Titus Rubles, a 6'8" F from Blinn JC.
Does that change things with regard to their interest in Opekpa?
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Cincy picked up a verbal today from JUCO Titus Rubles, a 6'8" F from Blinn JC.
Does that change things with regard to their interest in Opekpa?
Maybe they are backing away now too?
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From what I hear it would be shocking if he didn't go to Cincinnati
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Cincy picked up a verbal today from JUCO Titus Rubles, a 6'8" F from Blinn JC.
Does that change things with regard to their interest in Opekpa?
Maybe they are backing away now too?
Are we backing away and if so why? There are only 2 reasons I could tkink of backing away ftom him, 1. It looks like he will not qualify or 2, We are in great shape w Chandler.
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Dam I love Obekpa game , love players who don't need the ball to affect a basketball game. I wish I would of took my butt to the BX to see Maco & Orlando once I found out they were on our radar.
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Dam I love Obekpa game , love players who don't need the ball to affect a basketball game. I wish I would of took my butt to the BX to see Maco & Orlando once I found out they were on our radar.
Monroe plays tomorrow at 1pm and the game will be streamed on Monroe website.
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Dam I love Obekpa game , love players who don't need the ball to affect a basketball game. I wish I would of took my butt to the BX to see Maco & Orlando once I found out they were on our radar.
I don't know where we stand with Chandler or where Chandler stands with the NCAA but I'd take Chandler as a player any day over Obekpa and I really like Obekpa on the defensive end. He's a tremendous shotblocker.
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Saw on Twitter Cincy has landed a commitment from a JUCO PF. Not sure if this puts Obekpa back in play or not but its interesting.
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I have to eat crow about giving people crap for reading the kids Twitter. Looks like twitter gate scared off teams
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Saw on Twitter Cincy has landed a commitment from a JUCO PF. Not sure if this puts Obekpa back in play or not but its interesting.
Titus Rubles:
http://bearcatsnation.com/2012/03/19/juco-titus-rubles-commits-to-the-cincinnati-bearcats/ (http://bearcatsnation.com/2012/03/19/juco-titus-rubles-commits-to-the-cincinnati-bearcats/)
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I have to eat crow about giving people crap for reading the kids Twitter. Looks like twitter gate scared off teams
I was one of the early twitter adopters and posters and got S for it from some on the board. However, my other translating skills (lol) tell me that many tweets leave out letters or have typos from time to time. I'd chime in with a possibility that Obekpa, outside of fooling around with his tweet, meant to type "they don't PLAY cbi (right)," not "pay cbi (right)." So maybe style of play is not right for him.
It's entirely possible, but he deleted it just not to deal with explaining the typo.
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Dam I love Obekpa game , love players who don't need the ball to affect a basketball game. I wish I would of took my butt to the BX to see Maco & Orlando once I found out they were on our radar.
Monroe plays tomorrow at 1pm and the game will be streamed on Monroe website.
Moose any idea how to find the game. I dont see it on their athletics page. Thanks
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Just found it.
for those interested
http://www.ihigh.com/njcaatv/broadcast_212371.html?silverlight=1 (http://www.ihigh.com/njcaatv/broadcast_212371.html?silverlight=1)
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Ship has sailed, bur piece on O makes sense in my biased opinion.
“@5starbasketball: ALERT: Noel, Shabazz, Bennett headline unsigned prospects http://t.co/rCJcP74r (http://t.co/rCJcP74r)”
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Either way, our staff seriously needs to land a big man to handle the middle next season. Adding Sampson and the possibility of adding Sanchez will be huge for our low post scoring, but it will all be for nothing if St. John's does not have a legitimate center on the roster. Whether it be Obekpa or Chandler, they need the size in the middle.
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Dont count us out just yet....
Evan Daniels- Chris Obekpa will visit St. Johns this weekend, per his HS coach Eric Jaklitsch.
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Dont count us out just yet....
Evan Daniels- Chris Obekpa will visit St. Johns this weekend, per his HS coach Eric Jaklitsch.
Hell Yeah! Obekpa would be a beast with this team.
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Dont count us out just yet....
Evan Daniels- Chris Obekpa will visit St. Johns this weekend, per his HS coach Eric Jaklitsch.
Hell Yeah! Obekpa would be a beast with this team.
No doubt
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Whoever qualifies first gets the scholarship LOL
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Surprising
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True strength is doing what you know is right when you really don't want to.
Hope this dos not refer to us
His last tweet
He does confirm his visit
https://twitter.com/#!/christopherewao
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True strength is doing what you know is right when you really don't want to.
Hope this dos not refer to us
His last tweet
He does confirm his visit
https://twitter.com/#!/christopherewao
Or he could be talking about turning down money elsewhere to come play for us :)
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I can be guilty of it too but I think we all read too much into these tweets. Who knows whats going or what he is talking about. Lets just see how this plays out
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:) Tweetgate continues!!!
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Who knows what this kid wants , I no I sure don't but I do know a front court depth chart that included Sampson,obekpa, chandler, Sanchez would be legendary. And we have the ships to do it
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Love that Lavin has some big options. Tends to give potential commits something to think about. Guy is an excellent recruiting strategist.
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I can be guilty of it too but I think we all read too much into these tweets. Who knows whats going or what he is talking about. Lets just see how this plays out
I am just happy he didn't mention the abi :laugh:
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Saumouro visited last year too.
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I can be guilty of it too but I think we all read too much into these tweets. Who knows whats going or what he is talking about. Lets just see how this plays out
I am just happy he didn't mention the abi :laugh:
I got the translator page ready just in case :)
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True strength is doing what you know is right when you really don't want to.
Hope this dos not refer to us
His last tweet
He does confirm his visit
https://twitter.com/#!/christopherewao
I think this tweet may be good for us. His spirit is telling him not to go to SJU. but after weighing the facts he may feel it is the right thing to do , Disclaimer; I am not a professional tweet analyst LOL..
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I hope I was reading his tweets wrong.
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Count on dinner at Sylvia's in Harlem or a SOHO hot spot, a Broadway play, a ride in Tebow's jet and lunch with the Nigerian ambassador. That's just Saturday. Lavs!
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Love that Lavin has some big options. Tends to give potential commits something to think about. Guy is an excellent recruiting strategist.
The new recruiting show on TV will be called "As the Lavin turns...."
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Great sign, not going to go crazy over it but definitely a positive.
Hope all goes well.
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Count on dinner at Sylvia's in Harlem or a SOHO hot spot, a Broadway play, a ride in Tebow's jet and lunch with the Nigerian ambassador. That's just Saturday. Lavs!
coach has publicly said he takes recruits to Tao. so i would expect dinner there.
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Count on dinner at Sylvia's in Harlem or a SOHO hot spot, a Broadway play, a ride in Tebow's jet and lunch with the Nigerian ambassador. That's just Saturday. Lavs!
coach has publicly said he takes recruits to Tao. so i would expect dinner there.
Thought Tao was the secret seven footer we were recruiting.
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I can be guilty of it too but I think we all read too much into these tweets. Who knows whats going or what he is talking about. Lets just see how this plays out
Couldn't he have been joking. Lotta thick people reading these Tweets.
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it's also worth noting that it appears JaKarr is in NY this weekend too. looks like Lav is trying to get everyone together.
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I can be guilty of it too but I think we all read too much into these tweets. Who knows whats going or what he is talking about. Lets just see how this plays out
Couldn't he have been joking. Lotta thick people reading these Tweets.
Exactly
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So much for those posts that This ship has sailed. Appreciate and look forward to info provided from those "in the know" but it is what I truly believed all along-the only person truly in the know is coach Lavin himself.
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Assuming he was saying what is reported obviously he was joking. Probably in poor taste.
But does anyone think someone would publically admit to being on the take as he is being recruited unless he was joking?
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Assuming he was saying what is reported obviously he was joking. Probably in poor taste.
But does anyone think someone would publically admit to being on the take as he is being recruited unless he was joking?
I think we should all just forget about that tweet. It's just speculation, no one knows if he was joking or if something was lost in translation. If Lavin thought this kid was trouble, he wouldn't continue to pursue him.
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Chris Obekpa will take an official visit to St. John’s this weekend per Zags.
http://www.zagsblog.com/2012/03/23/obekpa-to-take-official-to-st-johns/#more-70147 (http://www.zagsblog.com/2012/03/23/obekpa-to-take-official-to-st-johns/#more-70147)
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So much for those posts that This ship has sailed. Appreciate and look forward to info provided from those "in the know" but it is what I truly believed all along-the only person truly in the know is coach Lavin himself.
High school boys are a lot like high school girls. They change their mind a lot.
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Assuming he was saying what is reported obviously he was joking. Probably in poor taste.
But does anyone think someone would publically admit to being on the take as he is being recruited unless he was joking?
+1
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So much for those posts that This ship has sailed. Appreciate and look forward to info provided from those "in the know" but it is what I truly believed all along-the only person truly in the know is coach Lavin himself.
High school boys are a lot like high school girls. They change their mind a lot.
#Truth
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Well than it is premature to say That ship has sailed because in reality it is still at port!
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Well than it is premature to say That ship has sailed because in reality it is still at port!
It must have drifted away from the dock
They must have pulled it back to safety.
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Anyone know if this kid is ready to announce soon or does he still have some more schools to visit after St. John's?
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And it is an official considering he goes to school just down the road.
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Well than it is premature to say That ship has sailed because in reality it is still at port!
It must have drifted away from the dock
They must have pulled it back to safety.
Good one Moose. Gave me a chuckle, and I needed one after misunderstanding with pmg.
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Well than it is premature to say That ship has sailed because in reality it is still at port!
It must have drifted away from the dock
They must have pulled it back to safety.
Good one Moose. Gave me a chuckle, and I needed one after misunderstanding with pmg.
I think me and you can come up with some good one liners.
Check your PM too.
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Wow I thought he was going to Cinci? May hafta hit up Tao tonight. This would be a huge coup for Lavs and the program if we can land him.
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Anyone know if this kid is ready to announce soon or does he still have some more schools to visit after St. John's?
No idea. But my guess is if he wants to use up another official perhaps Oregon may get one as they entered recently.
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Anyone know if this kid is ready to announce soon or does he still have some more schools to visit after St. John's?
No idea. But my guess is if he wants to use up another official perhaps Oregon may get one as they entered recently.
My gut feeling tells me that we are not going to play around with this, either he makes a decision rather quickly or we go the other route,
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Anyone know if this kid is ready to announce soon or does he still have some more schools to visit after St. John's?
No idea. But my guess is if he wants to use up another official perhaps Oregon may get one as they entered recently.
I know Altman denied it but he was rumored for the Nebraska job.
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Glad he is coming for an official. He will get to meet his future teammates and the coach will have his exclusive attention to sell him his vision.
as some one mentioning that JaKarr will be in town which is another positive in building relationships which can influence his decision.
good luck coach! Enjot the visit Christopher.
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Maybe he will feel positive vibes and feel St J's is the right place for him. Spending time with the charismatic coach Lavs and seeing he is exactly what we need might do the trick.
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Anyone know if this kid is ready to announce soon or does he still have some more schools to visit after St. John's?
No idea. But my guess is if he wants to use up another official perhaps Oregon may get one as they entered recently.
I know Altman denied it but he was rumored for the Nebraska job.
Yeah he's not going back to Nebraska. He just took over at Oregon, is making progress. Phil Knight backing him. I would believe him. I think they are targeting John Groce of Ohio.
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CSU coach thought to be lead candidate, according to several reports
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So much for those posts that This ship has sailed. Appreciate and look forward to info provided from those "in the know" but it is what I truly believed all along-the only person truly in the know is coach Lavin himself.
High school boys are a lot like high school girls. They change their mind a lot.
That's why as of last month I stopped dating high school girls.
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So much for those posts that This ship has sailed. Appreciate and look forward to info provided from those "in the know" but it is what I truly believed all along-the only person truly in the know is coach Lavin himself.
High school boys are a lot like high school girls. They change their mind a lot.
That's why as of last month I stopped dating high school girls.
That's what I love about these high school girls, man. I get older, they stay the same age.
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He wants to wait till April for the decision. A visit at this point is a great advantage for the johnnies. His buddy Felix came away from his visit with no doubts about his choice. I hope this is his final visit.
My guess is that he will be in the starting line up by December. I think Lavin views him as a key guy.
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He wants to wait till April for the decision. A visit at this point is a great advantage for the johnnies. His buddy Felix came away from his visit with no doubts about his choice. I hope this is his final visit.
My guess is that he will be in the starting line up by December. I think Lavin views him as a key guy.
IMHO its us and Cincy. He is not going to put his raw talents in the hands of Ed Cooley to develop.
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He wants to wait till April for the decision. A visit at this point is a great advantage for the johnnies. His buddy Felix came away from his visit with no doubts about his choice. I hope this is his final visit.
My guess is that he will be in the starting line up by December. I think Lavin views him as a key guy.
Few cities are more disgusting than Cincinnati. Make the obvious choice Chris. Lock it up this weekend. It might not be here in a week.
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He wants to wait till April for the decision. A visit at this point is a great advantage for the johnnies. His buddy Felix came away from his visit with no doubts about his choice. I hope this is his final visit.
My guess is that he will be in the starting line up by December. I think Lavin views him as a key guy.
Few cities are more disgusting than Cincinnati. Make the obvious choice Chris. Lock it up this weekend. It might not be here in a week.
Thought it was the Queen City. Home of the Cincinnati Kid-Steve McQueen, and the Big Red Machine, and WKRP in Cincinnati. Why the hate?
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Celtics, if you've been there, you'd know. It's a typical midwestern city. A dump.
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Celtics, if you've been there, you'd know. It's a typical midwestern city. A dump.
Actually went to a Reds game while a law student at U of Dayton but didn't get to see the city. Was a fan of WKRP in Cincy though. I'll take your word for it and agree we would be a much better destination for Mr. O anyway.
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He wants to wait till April for the decision. A visit at this point is a great advantage for the johnnies. His buddy Felix came away from his visit with no doubts about his choice. I hope this is his final visit.
My guess is that he will be in the starting line up by December. I think Lavin views him as a key guy.
Few cities are more disgusting than Cincinnati. Make the obvious choice Chris. Lock it up this weekend. It might not be here in a week.
Very true. Personally im not sure i wouldnt rather have Chandler. He is taller and more advanced offensively at this point
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Article notes some possible news next week for Monroe guys.
http://www.rumbleinthegarden.com/ (http://www.rumbleinthegarden.com/)
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He wants to wait till April for the decision. A visit at this point is a great advantage for the johnnies. His buddy Felix came away from his visit with no doubts about his choice. I hope this is his final visit.
My guess is that he will be in the starting line up by December. I think Lavin views him as a key guy.
Few cities are more disgusting than Cincinnati. Make the obvious choice Chris. Lock it up this weekend. It might not be here in a week.
Very true. Personally im not sure i wouldnt rather have Chandler. He is taller and more advanced offensively at this point
Both?
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I would take both, cannot ever have enough bigs that can play and why worry about schollie situation in future as things tend to shake out do to PT and other factors. Besides one seems to be an offensive player the other a D player so would complement each other and GG could be a backup PF to Jak.
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He wants to wait till April for the decision. A visit at this point is a great advantage for the johnnies. His buddy Felix came away from his visit with no doubts about his choice. I hope this is his final visit.
My guess is that he will be in the starting line up by December. I think Lavin views him as a key guy.
Few cities are more disgusting than Cincinnati. Make the obvious choice Chris. Lock it up this weekend. It might not be here in a week.
Very true. Personally im not sure i wouldnt rather have Chandler. He is taller and more advanced offensively at this point
Both?
I agree with both! They play different styles and this team needs both of those styles to be successful. Plus I don't hear too much talk about us being involved with other Centers in future classes.
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He wants to wait till April for the decision. A visit at this point is a great advantage for the johnnies. His buddy Felix came away from his visit with no doubts about his choice. I hope this is his final visit.
My guess is that he will be in the starting line up by December. I think Lavin views him as a key guy.
Few cities are more disgusting than Cincinnati. Make the obvious choice Chris. Lock it up this weekend. It might not be here in a week.
Very true. Personally im not sure i wouldnt rather have Chandler. He is taller and more advanced offensively at this point
Both?
I agree with both! They play different styles and this team needs both of those styles to be successful. Plus I don't hear too much talk about us being involved with other Centers in future classes.
Not gonna get both of these guys. They are in the same class and play same position.
Whoever signs first is who we will have. The other will go elsewhere
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Not gonna get both of these guys. They are in the same class and play same position.
Whoever signs first is who we will have. The other will go elsewhere
I agree with you. However, many would have said the same thing last year about the possibility of signing 3 SF's: Harkless, Pointer, and Garrett.
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The goal should most certainly be to get both. With one, you're one injury away from being pathetic in the frontcourt like we were this year. SU took Melo and Keita in the same year. What's the big deal?
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I agree, that going after both should be no problem, especially in our case where our size is our most glaring weakness. In today's college game, with the appropriate size, a center can be a pf and a pf can be a center. I think in most cases kids dictate choices on who is coming in, and who is on roster when making choices. Coaches job is to bring in the best talent available even if both are listed at the same position when being recruited. Just mo but I think whoever chooses us the other might walk and that will not be because of coaching staff.
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The goal should most certainly be to get both. With one, you're one injury away from being pathetic in the frontcourt like we were this year. SU took Melo and Keita in the same year. What's the big deal?
Then took Christmas the next, depth is essential
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The goal should most certainly be to get both. With one, you're one injury away from being pathetic in the frontcourt like we were this year. SU took Melo and Keita in the same year. What's the big deal?
Then took Christmas the next, depth is essential
And Dajuan Coleman coming in next year. Practically a top 5 center every season for 'Cuse.
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The goal should most certainly be to get both. With one, you're one injury away from being pathetic in the frontcourt like we were this year. SU took Melo and Keita in the same year. What's the big deal?
Then took Christmas the next, depth is essential
And Dajuan Coleman coming in next year. Practically a top 5 center every season for 'Cuse.
Still chasing Noel too.
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Who was the last recruit to commit to us on their visit?
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Who was the last recruit to commit to us on their visit?
I think Branch was within a week of his visit, not sure if it was exactly on the visit.
Phil Greene last year committed on his visit after a game.
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Although a transfer, Branch if I am not mistaken committed right after visit.
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He wants to wait till April for the decision. A visit at this point is a great advantage for the johnnies. His buddy Felix came away from his visit with no doubts about his choice. I hope this is his final visit.
My guess is that he will be in the starting line up by December. I think Lavin views him as a key guy.
Few cities are more disgusting than Cincinnati. Make the obvious choice Chris. Lock it up this weekend. It might not be here in a week.
Very true. Personally im not sure i wouldnt rather have Chandler. He is taller and more advanced offensively at this point
Both?
I agree with both! They play different styles and this team needs both of those styles to be successful. Plus I don't hear too much talk about us being involved with other Centers in future classes.
Not gonna get both of these guys. They are in the same class and play same position.
Whoever signs first is who we will have. The other will go elsewhere
FYI, Steve got 6'11 Dan Gadzuric and 6'11 Jerome Moiso in the same class in 1998, and got 6'11 top 100 center Mike Fey and 7'0 Ryan Hollins (just joined the Celts) in the same class in 2002.
Lavin is a very rare recruiter. A lot of the logic you have to apply to most coaches just don't apply.
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Believe former Johnny, Ron Stuart, coached Moiso in France. Johnnies had modest hopes of getting him.
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Believe former Johnny, Ron Stuart, coached Moiso in France. Johnnies had modest hopes of getting him.
Count yourselves Lucky. Jerome may have singlehandedly cost Pitino millions of dollars (Rick with the Celts made Jerome a lotto pick). Ton of talent absolute ZERO drive to succeed. Like there wasn't a competitive bone in his body. Lav's couldn't motivate him. Pitino couldn't motivate him. Paul Silas gave up on him and dropped him from the league.
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He wants to wait till April for the decision. A visit at this point is a great advantage for the johnnies. His buddy Felix came away from his visit with no doubts about his choice. I hope this is his final visit.
My guess is that he will be in the starting line up by December. I think Lavin views him as a key guy.
Few cities are more disgusting than Cincinnati. Make the obvious choice Chris. Lock it up this weekend. It might not be here in a week.
Very true. Personally im not sure i wouldnt rather have Chandler. He is taller and more advanced offensively at this point
Both?
I agree with both! They play different styles and this team needs both of those styles to be successful. Plus I don't hear too much talk about us being involved with other Centers in future classes.
Not gonna get both of these guys. They are in the same class and play same position.
Whoever signs first is who we will have. The other will go elsewhere
FYI, Steve got 6'11 Dan Gadzuric and 6'11 Jerome Moiso in the same class in 1998, and got 6'11 top 100 center Mike Fey and 7'0 Ryan Hollins (just joined the Celts) in the same class in 2002.
Lavin is a very rare recruiter. A lot of the logic you have to apply to most coaches just don't apply.
i cant wait for the years that we get skilled players taller than 6'10. i cant even remember the last time we've had players like that.
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Although a transfer, Branch if I am not mistaken committed right after visit.
During.
He wudn't gonna be allowed to get on the plane witout one. Tony had the ticket.
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The goal should most certainly be to get both. With one, you're one injury away from being pathetic in the frontcourt like we were this year. SU took Melo and Keita in the same year. What's the big deal?
Then took Christmas the next, depth is essential
And Dajuan Coleman coming in next year. Practically a top 5 center every season for 'Cuse.
I'm not too high on Coleman. He does a lot of things a guy his size wouldn't normally do but doesn't do enough of the things a guy his size should do. Thats just my opinion there are plenty of people who disagree.
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The goal should most certainly be to get both. With one, you're one injury away from being pathetic in the frontcourt like we were this year. SU took Melo and Keita in the same year. What's the big deal?
Then took Christmas the next, depth is essential
And Dajuan Coleman coming in next year. Practically a top 5 center every season for 'Cuse.
I'm not too high on Coleman. He does a lot of things a guy his size wouldn't normally do but doesn't do enough of the things a guy his size should do. Thats just my opinion there are plenty of people who disagree.
How tall is he truly? A guy his width at HS level can look awesome. But at the next level, well........
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The goal should most certainly be to get both. With one, you're one injury away from being pathetic in the frontcourt like we were this year. SU took Melo and Keita in the same year. What's the big deal?
Then took Christmas the next, depth is essential
And Dajuan Coleman coming in next year. Practically a top 5 center every season for 'Cuse.
I'm not too high on Coleman. He does a lot of things a guy his size wouldn't normally do but doesn't do enough of the things a guy his size should do. Thats just my opinion there are plenty of people who disagree.
How tall is he truly? A guy his width at HS level can look awesome. But at the next level, well........
Coleman doesn't look much bigger than 6'8".
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Believe former Johnny, Ron Stuart, coached Moiso in France. Johnnies had modest hopes of getting him.
Count yourselves Lucky. Jerome may have singlehandedly cost Pitino millions of dollars (Rick with the Celts made Jerome a lotto pick). Ton of talent absolute ZERO drive to succeed. Like there wasn't a competitive bone in his body. Lav's couldn't motivate him. Pitino couldn't motivate him. Paul Silas gave up on him and dropped him from the league.
Moiso, who played 4 years in Spain (one season in my city´s team), is the typical French player: overrated.
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Believe former Johnny, Ron Stuart, coached Moiso in France. Johnnies had modest hopes of getting him.
Count yourselves Lucky. Jerome may have singlehandedly cost Pitino millions of dollars (Rick with the Celts made Jerome a lotto pick). Ton of talent absolute ZERO drive to succeed. Like there wasn't a competitive bone in his body. Lav's couldn't motivate him. Pitino couldn't motivate him. Paul Silas gave up on him and dropped him from the league.
Moiso, who played 4 years in Spain (one season in my city´s team), is the typical French player: overrated.
Ha Gonzalo hates French players :)
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Believe former Johnny, Ron Stuart, coached Moiso in France. Johnnies had modest hopes of getting him.
Count yourselves Lucky. Jerome may have singlehandedly cost Pitino millions of dollars (Rick with the Celts made Jerome a lotto pick). Ton of talent absolute ZERO drive to succeed. Like there wasn't a competitive bone in his body. Lav's couldn't motivate him. Pitino couldn't motivate him. Paul Silas gave up on him and dropped him from the league.
Moiso, who played 4 years in Spain (one season in my city´s team), is the typical French player: overrated.
Ha Gonzalo hates French players :)
Viva La Bourgault!
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Believe former Johnny, Ron Stuart, coached Moiso in France. Johnnies had modest hopes of getting him.
Count yourselves Lucky. Jerome may have singlehandedly cost Pitino millions of dollars (Rick with the Celts made Jerome a lotto pick). Ton of talent absolute ZERO drive to succeed. Like there wasn't a competitive bone in his body. Lav's couldn't motivate him. Pitino couldn't motivate him. Paul Silas gave up on him and dropped him from the league.
Moiso, who played 4 years in Spain (one season in my city´s team), is the typical French player: overrated.
Ha Gonzalo hates French players :)
Believe former Johnny, Ron Stuart, coached Moiso in France. Johnnies had modest hopes of getting him.
Count yourselves Lucky. Jerome may have singlehandedly cost Pitino millions of dollars (Rick with the Celts made Jerome a lotto pick). Ton of talent absolute ZERO drive to succeed. Like there wasn't a competitive bone in his body. Lav's couldn't motivate him. Pitino couldn't motivate him. Paul Silas gave up on him and dropped him from the league.
Moiso, who played 4 years in Spain (one season in my city´s team), is the typical French player: overrated.
Ha Gonzalo hates French players :)
They do tend to collaborate with opposing teams.
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The goal should most certainly be to get both. With one, you're one injury away from being pathetic in the frontcourt like we were this year. SU took Melo and Keita in the same year. What's the big deal?
Then took Christmas the next, depth is essential
And Dajuan Coleman coming in next year. Practically a top 5 center every season for 'Cuse.
I'm not too high on Coleman. He does a lot of things a guy his size wouldn't normally do but doesn't do enough of the things a guy his size should do. Thats just my opinion there are plenty of people who disagree.
How tall is he truly? A guy his width at HS level can look awesome. But at the next level, well........
Wayne McKoy.
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The goal should most certainly be to get both. With one, you're one injury away from being pathetic in the frontcourt like we were this year. SU took Melo and Keita in the same year. What's the big deal?
Then took Christmas the next, depth is essential
And Dajuan Coleman coming in next year. Practically a top 5 center every season for 'Cuse.
I'm not too high on Coleman. He does a lot of things a guy his size wouldn't normally do but doesn't do enough of the things a guy his size should do. Thats just my opinion there are plenty of people who disagree.
How tall is he truly? A guy his width at HS level can look awesome. But at the next level, well........
Wayne McKoy.
Yeah no clue who that is.
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Wayne McKoy.
Yeah no clue who that is.
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Serious?
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Wayne McKoy.
Yeah no clue who that is.
Serious?
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He's not old and has mentioned that he didn't start rooting for the team as a little kid. Not sure how much footage of McCoy is out there, either.
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The goal should most certainly be to get both. With one, you're one injury away from being pathetic in the frontcourt like we were this year. SU took Melo and Keita in the same year. What's the big deal?
Then took Christmas the next, depth is essential
And Dajuan Coleman coming in next year. Practically a top 5 center every season for 'Cuse.
I'm not too high on Coleman. He does a lot of things a guy his size wouldn't normally do but doesn't do enough of the things a guy his size should do. Thats just my opinion there are plenty of people who disagree.
How tall is he truly? A guy his width at HS level can look awesome. But at the next level, well........
Wayne McKoy.
Yeah no clue who that is.
Time for a little SJU history lesson. He was a 6'8" man-child at LuHi ranked either 1 or 2 coming out. Looie landed him in '77 and he never reached the lofty expectations many expected of him. His body matured early. He teamed with Reggie Carter at LuHi and they both wound up here after Reggie transferred in from Hawaii.
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The goal should most certainly be to get both. With one, you're one injury away from being pathetic in the frontcourt like we were this year. SU took Melo and Keita in the same year. What's the big deal?
Then took Christmas the next, depth is essential
And Dajuan Coleman coming in next year. Practically a top 5 center every season for 'Cuse.
I'm not too high on Coleman. He does a lot of things a guy his size wouldn't normally do but doesn't do enough of the things a guy his size should do. Thats just my opinion there are plenty of people who disagree.
How tall is he truly? A guy his width at HS level can look awesome. But at the next level, well........
Wayne McKoy.
Yeah no clue who that is.
Time for a little SJU history lesson. He was a 6'8" man-child at LuHi ranked either 1 or 2 coming out. Looie landed him in '77 and he never reached the lofty expectations many expected of him. His body matured early. He teamed with Reggie Carter at LuHi and they both wound up here after Reggie transferred in from Hawaii.
Jeez, Section 9. You had to put the memory of Wayne McKoy back in my brain ? >:( :laugh:
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Wayne McKoy.
Yeah no clue who that is.
Serious?
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I'm 29 man :)
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Seems like he had delicious shrimp and went to the 40/40 club. Sound like a good time to me.
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Time for a little SJU history lesson. He was a 6'8" man-child at LuHi ranked either 1 or 2 coming out. Looie landed him in '77 and he never reached the lofty expectations many expected of him. His body matured early. He teamed with Reggie Carter at LuHi and they both wound up here after Reggie transferred in from Hawaii.
I think he may have been ranked #2 next to..... Magic.
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I think he was as highly rated coming out of HS as Felipe. As I recall he got a lot of attention from an early age. It was a lot different on those days when young kids had to wait to play varsity. Newsday provided a lot of coverage as he played at LI Lutheran.
I hope Christopher O feels the way Wayne felt about 35 years ago.
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Time for a little SJU history lesson. He was a 6'8" man-child at LuHi ranked either 1 or 2 coming out. Looie landed him in '77 and he never reached the lofty expectations many expected of him. His body matured early. He teamed with Reggie Carter at LuHi and they both wound up here after Reggie transferred in from Hawaii.
I think he may have been ranked #2 next to..... Magic.
Earvin and Wayne were high out of high school, but not THAT high nationally. Still remember the Street & Smith cover that year - The big 3 were Gene Banks, Kenny Dennard and Albert King. Albert was the defacto #1, but S&S had a special 3 page feature on the "real" #1 - a 6'10 soph in West Virginia named Earl Jones....
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Time for a little SJU history lesson. He was a 6'8" man-child at LuHi ranked either 1 or 2 coming out. Looie landed him in '77 and he never reached the lofty expectations many expected of him. His body matured early. He teamed with Reggie Carter at LuHi and they both wound up here after Reggie transferred in from Hawaii.
I think he may have been ranked #2 next to..... Magic.
Earvin and Wayne were high out of high school, but not THAT high nationally. Still remember the Street & Smith cover that year - The big 3 were Gene Banks, Kenny Dennard and Albert King. Albert was the defacto #1, but S&S had a special 3 page feature on the "real" #1 - a 6'10 soph in West Virginia named Earl Jones....
CR, I seem to remember Magic, like Felipe Lopez years later, being on the SI cover prior to the start of his freshman season ... and that's bigger than the S&S cover.
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Ok anyway back to Christopher, hope he verbals in the next few days. Any insiders hear how the visit went?
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so how about Obekpa...how did the official go?
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so how about Obekpa...how did the official go?
We'll find out relatively soon. Gotta imagine it went well
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Lavin doesn't miss on guys he gets on official visits. In fact, Lav gets some to commit without ever visiting and most to commit on unifficials. Giving Lav the official to close the deal is like giving a high school football player a bottle of liquor and a hotel room to close the deal on prom weekend.
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Lavin doesn't miss on guys he gets on official visits. In fact, Lav gets some to commit without ever visiting and most to commit on unifficials. Giving Lav the official to close the deal is like giving a high school football player a bottle of liquor and a hotel room to close the deal on prom weekend.
haha hope you're analogy is dead on this time too
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One more re Wayne McKoy-local tv sportscaster Bill Mazer stated on his sportscast that Bill Walton better enjoy things now because there is a 9th grader that is going to take over college basketball named Wayne Mckoy. We were all excited and expected a great dominating player when he got to St J's and we spent the next 3 yrs watching him get his butt kicked by Jeff Ruland of Iona. Would have been for 4 yrs but Ruland went pro because Jim Valvano left for NC ST.
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One more re Wayne McKoy-local tv sportscaster Bill Mazer stated on his sportscast that Bill Walton better enjoy things now because there is a 9th grader that is going to take over college basketball named Wayne Mckoy. We were all excited and expected a great dominating player when he got to St J's and we spent the next 3 yrs watching him get his butt kicked by Jeff Ruland of Iona. Would have been for 4 yrs but Ruland went pro because Jim Valvano left for NC ST.
An golden oldie- Bill Mazur, his blue blazer, and toupe. I remember feeling so good that we got Wayne from LI Lutheran, until I heard Coach Al McGuire talk about NY recruits. He mentioned Ruland was clearly far superior to Wayne in skills. He was right. But Wayne gave it his all.
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Time for a little SJU history lesson. He was a 6'8" man-child at LuHi ranked either 1 or 2 coming out. Looie landed him in '77 and he never reached the lofty expectations many expected of him. His body matured early. He teamed with Reggie Carter at LuHi and they both wound up here after Reggie transferred in from Hawaii.
I think he may have been ranked #2 next to..... Magic.
Earvin and Wayne were high out of high school, but not THAT high nationally. Still remember the Street & Smith cover that year - The big 3 were Gene Banks, Kenny Dennard and Albert King. Albert was the defacto #1, but S&S had a special 3 page feature on the "real" #1 - a 6'10 soph in West Virginia named Earl Jones....
CR, I seem to remember Magic, like Felipe Lopez years later, being on the SI cover prior to the start of his freshman season ... and that's bigger than the S&S cover.
SI vault shows THIS as the first Magic Cover.
And FYI, when it came to HS hoops, SI was nowhere close to being as prestigious as S&S.....There was Street and Smith, and there was Parade covering HS on the national scene. And if you paid your subscription fee, a six time a year Newsletter called Blue Ribbon (still around today, tho evolved into the best collegiate annual you can find but with decreased HS reporting). There wasn't a "Sports Illustrated High School All America team - just the occasional national article on a single player or two. They never did live down the 1970 cover of Tom McMillen (of course, lucky for them due to NCAA rules, it took 2 years for them to actually play Varsity basketball for folks to realize how silly McMillen over Bill Walton really was).
(http://common1.csnimages.com/lf/1/hash/6056/3188660/1/Magic%2BJohnson%2BAutographed%2BSports%2BIllustrated%2BCover%2BPhotograph.jpg)
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Lavin doesn't miss on guys he gets on official visits.
Marillac - come on now - Kyle Anderson.
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I don't follow these things as closely as I used to, but I don't recall Kyle taking an official to St. John's (doesn't mean that marillac is right though).
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Apologies to Marillac - Kyle had unofficial to SJU.!!
http://www.zagsblog.com/2011/09/07/kyle-anderson-chats-with-baron-davis-on-sju-visit/ (http://www.zagsblog.com/2011/09/07/kyle-anderson-chats-with-baron-davis-on-sju-visit/)
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Chris,Felix and a bunch of other kids at the Port Chester band box tourney tonite.
Q“@LoHudInsider: Here's a list of the talent on the court tonight at the CYP tournament: http://t.co/JtM2FtF2 (http://t.co/JtM2FtF2)”q
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Chris,Felix and a bunch of other kids at the Port Chester band box tourney tonite.
Q“@LoHudInsider: Here's a list of the talent on the court tonight at the CYP tournament: http://t.co/JtM2FtF2 (http://t.co/JtM2FtF2)”q
What does your reliable/informative buddy have to say about Chris O. and STJ?
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Chris,Felix and a bunch of other kids at the Port Chester band box tourney tonite.
Q“@LoHudInsider: Here's a list of the talent on the court tonight at the CYP tournament: http://t.co/JtM2FtF2 (http://t.co/JtM2FtF2)”q
So this means I have to go now haha
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I live in Port Chester. I'm thinking about heading over to watch the game.
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One more re Wayne McKoy-local tv sportscaster Bill Mazer stated on his sportscast that Bill Walton better enjoy things now because there is a 9th grader that is going to take over college basketball named Wayne Mckoy. We were all excited and expected a great dominating player when he got to St J's and we spent the next 3 yrs watching him get his butt kicked by Jeff Ruland of Iona. Would have been for 4 yrs but Ruland went pro because Jim Valvano left for NC ST.
An golden oldie- Bill Mazur, his blue blazer, and toupe. I remember feeling so good that we got Wayne from LI Lutheran, until I heard Coach Al McGuire talk about NY recruits. He mentioned Ruland was clearly far superior to Wayne in skills. He was right. But Wayne gave it his all.
I caddied for Bill Mazer many a time. He had a heavy arsed "trunk" (caddy parlance) w/ loads of crap in it. Depending on whether he was in the mood for it, it was fun shooting the breeze about sports w/ him out on the course. Oh, and I was caddying for his bro David when he had a hole in one.
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Chris,Felix and a bunch of other kids at the Port Chester band box tourney tonite.
Q“@LoHudInsider: Here's a list of the talent on the court tonight at the CYP tournament: http://t.co/JtM2FtF2 (http://t.co/JtM2FtF2)”q
What does your reliable/informative buddy have to say about Chris O. and STJ?
Surprised at the visit and no insight on this one.
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I live in Port Chester. I'm thinking about heading over to watch the game.
Port Chester born and raised and still in Westchester. I go every year but this year some of the usual suspect teams weren't in the tourney. Knowing some of the names tonight I will go for the 2nd game.
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I live in Port Chester. I'm thinking about heading over to watch the game.
Port Chester born and raised and still in Westchester. I go every year but this year some of the usual suspect teams weren't in the tourney. Knowing some of the names tonight I will go for the 2nd game.
Looking forward to your report Moose. Do me a favor and close the deal on Obekpa! enjoy the game
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I live in Port Chester. I'm thinking about heading over to watch the game.
Port Chester born and raised and still in Westchester. I go every year but this year some of the usual suspect teams weren't in the tourney. Knowing some of the names tonight I will go for the 2nd game.
Your in for a treat if obekpas team plays whiteheads team tonight. They also have Jordan Washington on obekpas team, what a front court! Wouldn't be suprised if you catch chiles and company being at the game either.
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I live in Port Chester. I'm thinking about heading over to watch the game.
Port Chester born and raised and still in Westchester. I go every year but this year some of the usual suspect teams weren't in the tourney. Knowing some of the names tonight I will go for the 2nd game.
My father was also born and raised in PC.
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I live in Port Chester. I'm thinking about heading over to watch the game.
Port Chester born and raised and still in Westchester. I go every year but this year some of the usual suspect teams weren't in the tourney. Knowing some of the names tonight I will go for the 2nd game.
Your in for a treat if obekpas team plays whiteheads team tonight. They also have Jordan Washington on obekpas team, what a front court! Wouldn't be suprised if you catch chiles and company being at the game either.
I thought the same thing about their frontcourt. Problem is CYP is a guards game because the court is tiny.
As for coaches when I was a kid I remember coaches crawling around that place. Remember Fran sitting front and center for lots of games. But I thought rules changed and the last few years with big big talent playing there were no coaches present. Only D2 and below.
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I live in Port Chester. I'm thinking about heading over to watch the game.
Port Chester born and raised and still in Westchester. I go every year but this year some of the usual suspect teams weren't in the tourney. Knowing some of the names tonight I will go for the 2nd game.
Your in for a treat if obekpas team plays whiteheads team tonight. They also have Jordan Washington on obekpas team, what a front court! Wouldn't be suprised if you catch chiles and company being at the game either.
I thought the same thing about their frontcourt. Problem is CYP is a guards game because the court is tiny.
As for coaches when I was a kid I remember coaches crawling around that place. Remember Fran sitting front and center for lots of games. But I thought rules changed and the last few years with big big talent playing there were no coaches present. Only D2 and below.
that's a shame but with the signing of this class we'll be right back in the hunt with these other coaches for the big talent. Was watching the re-run of the mcd all American game where we had two commits. Omar cook and Darius miles. That could be us again by '14
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I live in Port Chester. I'm thinking about heading over to watch the game.
Port Chester born and raised and still in Westchester. I go every year but this year some of the usual suspect teams weren't in the tourney. Knowing some of the names tonight I will go for the 2nd game.
Your in for a treat if obekpas team plays whiteheads team tonight. They also have Jordan Washington on obekpas team, what a front court! Wouldn't be suprised if you catch chiles and company being at the game either.
I thought the same thing about their frontcourt. Problem is CYP is a guards game because the court is tiny.
As for coaches when I was a kid I remember coaches crawling around that place. Remember Fran sitting front and center for lots of games. But I thought rules changed and the last few years with big big talent playing there were no coaches present. Only D2 and below.
that's a shame but with the signing of this class we'll be right back in the hunt with these other coaches for the big talent. Was watching the re-run of the mcd all American game where we had two commits. Omar cook and Darius miles. That could be us again by '14
Have a tape of McD game with Sealy and Werdann. Cast included Alonzo, Shawn Kemp and a ton of other talent. Getting back to that level would be sweet!
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I live in Port Chester. I'm thinking about heading over to watch the game.
Port Chester born and raised and still in Westchester. I go every year but this year some of the usual suspect teams weren't in the tourney. Knowing some of the names tonight I will go for the 2nd game.
My father was also born and raised in PC.
21 North....
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I live in Port Chester. I'm thinking about heading over to watch the game.
Port Chester born and raised and still in Westchester. I go every year but this year some of the usual suspect teams weren't in the tourney. Knowing some of the names tonight I will go for the 2nd game.
Your in for a treat if obekpas team plays whiteheads team tonight. They also have Jordan Washington on obekpas team, what a front court! Wouldn't be suprised if you catch chiles and company being at the game either.
I thought the same thing about their frontcourt. Problem is CYP is a guards game because the court is tiny.
As for coaches when I was a kid I remember coaches crawling around that place. Remember Fran sitting front and center for lots of games. But I thought rules changed and the last few years with big big talent playing there were no coaches present. Only D2 and below.
that's a shame but with the signing of this class we'll be right back in the hunt with these other coaches for the big talent. Was watching the re-run of the mcd all American game where we had two commits. Omar cook and Darius miles. That could be us again by '14
Damn straight... Things lining up pretty well. This class is important step in getting us to next level of competitiveness. If we land Sanchez, Bourgault and Obekpa we will have depth, athleticism and enough size to be a legit tourney team with the way this staff prepares these teams for late season play. If we bring the talent in, we'll be setting things up well for 13' and 14' classes to fill in with big talent.
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No word on how the Obekpa visit went???
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I live in Port Chester. I'm thinking about heading over to watch the game.
Port Chester born and raised and still in Westchester. I go every year but this year some of the usual suspect teams weren't in the tourney. Knowing some of the names tonight I will go for the 2nd game.
I used to buy hotdogs from an old man named Moose years ago. He used to sell them out of a small street cart by the Pathmark.
RIP Moose... Best hot dogs around...
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Time for a little SJU history lesson. He was a 6'8" man-child at LuHi ranked either 1 or 2 coming out. Looie landed him in '77 and he never reached the lofty expectations many expected of him. His body matured early. He teamed with Reggie Carter at LuHi and they both wound up here after Reggie transferred in from Hawaii.
I think he may have been ranked #2 next to..... Magic.
Earvin and Wayne were high out of high school, but not THAT high nationally. Still remember the Street & Smith cover that year - The big 3 were Gene Banks, Kenny Dennard and Albert King. Albert was the defacto #1, but S&S had a special 3 page feature on the "real" #1 - a 6'10 soph in West Virginia named Earl Jones....
CR, I seem to remember Magic, like Felipe Lopez years later, being on the SI cover prior to the start of his freshman season ... and that's bigger than the S&S cover.
SI vault shows THIS as the first Magic Cover.
And FYI, when it came to HS hoops, SI was nowhere close to being as prestigious as S&S.....There was Street and Smith, and there was Parade covering HS on the national scene. And if you paid your subscription fee, a six time a year Newsletter called Blue Ribbon (still around today, tho evolved into the best collegiate annual you can find but with decreased HS reporting). There wasn't a "Sports Illustrated High School All America team - just the occasional national article on a single player or two. They never did live down the 1970 cover of Tom McMillen (of course, lucky for them due to NCAA rules, it took 2 years for them to actually play Varsity basketball for folks to realize how silly McMillen over Bill Walton really was).
(http://common1.csnimages.com/lf/1/hash/6056/3188660/1/Magic%2BJohnson%2BAutographed%2BSports%2BIllustrated%2BCover%2BPhotograph.jpg)
Thanks for setting my memory straight; it's getting foggier and foggier. (Although I do recall Magic being on the cover of a national magazine just prior to or early in his freshmen year.) It's great to have a savant like you on both our boards. As for S&S vs. SI, I agree that S&S was (and is) the more serious magazine for college basketball fans, but you can't deny that SI reaches a much wider readership and that the SI cover has special meaning.
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“@NYPost_Brazille: RT @LoHudInsider: This kid Chris Obekpa is UN-BE-BELIEVABLE. Wow. Rodney Abrams leads 59-50 late in the fourth.”
Zach impressed at Portchester
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Was gonna do big post but I'll keep this in the Felix thread. Impressed hell out of me tonight. He might have missed 2 or 3 shots the whole night. He was hitting jumpers too not like it was all dunks, even though he gets his head above the rim. You can tell him and Obekpa have a rapport on the court. They look for eachother real well. He sold me tonight.
You have to add somewhere in the vicinity of 15-18 boards for Obekpa. Tom Konchalski turned to me and my friend at one point and said he had 9, 14 and 11. And then he added two monsterous dunks and some more boards and blocks after. Obekpa totally sold me tonight as well. I was lukewarm to start with him, but tonight. In a guards tournament he was able to make an impact. Might have maybe had 2 fouls only. His blocks come one and one, help and most importantly to me sometimes in succession. He would block one and then the follow up as well. I don't get nervous when he has the ball. I don't want him dribbling coast to coast but he can grab the board and take a few dribbles to start the break.
*Side note Kimani Young was coaching the Rodney Abrams/New Heights team with Obekpa and Felix.
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Great report - thanks, Moose
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“@LoHudInsider: CYP semifinals: Blaze, Rodney Abrams advance to championship http://t.co/NPHxa6w1 (http://t.co/NPHxa6w1)”
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Planning another visit?
http://depaul.scout.com/a.z?s=430&p=2&c=1171598&ssf=1&RequestedURL=http%3a%2f%2fdepaul.scout.com%2f2%2f1171598.html#.T3EsX3RHMxk.twitter (http://depaul.scout.com/a.z?s=430&p=2&c=1171598&ssf=1&RequestedURL=http%3a%2f%2fdepaul.scout.com%2f2%2f1171598.html#.T3EsX3RHMxk.twitter)
Dont have access to it, anyone can give a synopsis?
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“@LoHudInsider: CYP semifinals: Blaze, Rodney Abrams advance to championship http://t.co/NPHxa6w1 (http://t.co/NPHxa6w1)”
http://varsityinsider.lohudblogs.com/ (http://varsityinsider.lohudblogs.com/)
BTW-The guys who are in Westchester to see these games should stop by and say Hi to Kevin Devaney of the Journal News assuming he is there. He does a good job of covering local high school sports:
They were pitted against the likes of Our Lady of Saviour’s Chris Obekpa, one of the top unsigned players in the state, and teammate Felix Balamou, who has committed to St. John’s. The duo dominated the game. The nimble 6-foot-9 Obekpa – fresh off a recent official visit to St. John’s – had 13 points and blocked a whopping 13 shots. Balamou led all scoters (sic) with 28 points on a series of acrobatic plays and deep jumpers.
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Planning another visit?
http://depaul.scout.com/a.z?s=430&p=2&c=1171598&ssf=1&RequestedURL=http%3a%2f%2fdepaul.scout.com%2f2%2f1171598.html#.T3EsX3RHMxk.twitter (http://depaul.scout.com/a.z?s=430&p=2&c=1171598&ssf=1&RequestedURL=http%3a%2f%2fdepaul.scout.com%2f2%2f1171598.html#.T3EsX3RHMxk.twitter)
Dont have access to it, anyone can give a synopsis?
He is going to visit Oregon next as I suspected. Keep in mind as tradition starting on Thursday 3/29 running to April 5th at noon (in other words the Final Four) the dead period in recruiting starts. No off or on campus recruiting. In other words no attending events and no campus visits. So he will visit presumably after 4/5.
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He is going to visit Oregon next as I suspected. Keep in mind as tradition starting on Thursday 3/29 running to April 5th at noon (in other words the Final Four) the dead period in recruiting starts. No off or on campus recruiting. In other words no attending events and no campus visits. So he will visit presumably after 4/5.
Thanks fordham96. Hope we left a strong impression on him.
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http://www.zagsblog.com/2012/03/27/obekpa-visits-johnnies-oregon-up-next/ (http://www.zagsblog.com/2012/03/27/obekpa-visits-johnnies-oregon-up-next/)
“Chris enjoyed his official visit to St Johns this past weekend,” Our Savior assistant Eric Jaklitsch said by email. “He had been to campus and games a few times but there is only so much you can do on an unofficial visit. He had the chance to watch workouts on Friday and then went out to dinner with the coaching staff and JaKarr Sampson at night. The next day he was able to take a tour of Madison Square Garden and see some sites around New York City he had not seen before. At night he was able to hangout with the coaches and JaKarr while watching the NCAA tournament games.”
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Wasn't as dominant as last night, tonight. The opposing team didn't want anything to do with him and Jordan Washington so they settled to hoist jumpers the whole night. Obekpa might have had 2-3 blocks only. Still solid and it was great to hear all the people talking about how sound his defense is and how he avoids foul trouble in the process. I did notice some issues fighting for loose tip in's a bit where he needs to finish a bit better but thats correctable.
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Nice article and super photo of the big guy.
“@WNSports: Duo from Africa lead Rodney Abrams to CYP title: PORT CHESTER — Felix Balamou and Christopher Obekpa were a long... http://t.co/F5pK0vyr (http://t.co/F5pK0vyr)”
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Chris is reportedly playing in the All American Classic in New Orleans this weekend.
http://www.gazellegroup.com/events/aac/teams.htm (http://www.gazellegroup.com/events/aac/teams.htm)
Not sure he gets any chance to shine. They've put him on a team with RSCI overall 1 recruit 6'10 Nerlans Noell, #4 overall 6'9 Mitch McGary, #13 overall 6'10 Dujuan Coleman, and #17 overall 7'0 Kaleb Traczewski.....
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Chris is reportedly playing in the All American Classic in New Orleans this weekend.
http://www.gazellegroup.com/events/aac/teams.htm (http://www.gazellegroup.com/events/aac/teams.htm)
Not sure he gets any chance to shine. They've put him on a team with RSCI overall 1 recruit 6'10 Nerlans Noell, #4 overall 6'9 Mitch McGary, #13 overall 6'10 Dujuan Coleman, and #17 overall 7'0 Kaleb Traczewski.....
He'd eat Coleman's lunch. And Coleman doesn't miss many meals.
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CO in good company in All American All Star game tomorrow. Roster;
http://www.gazellegroup.com/events/aac/teams.htm (http://www.gazellegroup.com/events/aac/teams.htm)
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CO in good company in All American All Star game tomorrow. Roster;
http://www.gazellegroup.com/events/aac/teams.htm (http://www.gazellegroup.com/events/aac/teams.htm)
How many all star games do these kids get to play in? Is there a max?
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CO in good company in All American All Star game tomorrow. Roster;
http://www.gazellegroup.com/events/aac/teams.htm (http://www.gazellegroup.com/events/aac/teams.htm)
How many all star games do these kids get to play in? Is there a max?
I think it's two, three max. At least that's what it used to be. Maybe more now since new ones keep popping up.
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CO in good company in All American All Star game tomorrow. Roster;
http://www.gazellegroup.com/events/aac/teams.htm (http://www.gazellegroup.com/events/aac/teams.htm)
How many all star games do these kids get to play in? Is there a max?
I think it's two, three max. At least that's what it used to be. Maybe more now since new ones keep popping up.
That is why I was asking. There seems to be so many games now. I thought it was 2 also.
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CO game on ESPN 3 at 3 I believe, with espnu replay at 9 tonite.
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Hearing that he is tentatively scheduled to visit Oregon the weekend of 4/14-15. Then announce that week.
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CO game on ESPN 3 at 3 I believe, with espnu replay at 9 tonite.
I just checked Espnu. It is being shown at 10:30
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In the 2012 section , he is now up top where the signed players are. Sticky. Wishful thinking ??????
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Mmistake. My cablevision guide is wrong.. It is on right now .
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Mmistake. My cablevision guide is wrong.. It is on right now .
Dolan sucks. When will you learn :)
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In the 2012 section , he is now up top where the signed players are. Sticky. Wishful thinking ??????
Moderator error. Unfortunately it is real easy to sticky a thread by error. I probably stickied Kyle Anderson ten times.
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In the 2012 section , he is now up top where the signed players are. Sticky. Wishful thinking ??????
Moderator error. Unfortunately it is real easy to sticky a thread by error. I probably stickied Kyle Anderson ten times.
Mush :)
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This time it wasn't me ;)
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Oops, think I did that.
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Affirmed: worst all star game atmosphere ever.
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Seems like an April Fools Day joke.
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How did Obekpa do in the all star game?
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“@christopherewao: Is there something wrong with trying to be d best defensive player of my time?”
Depends where you go Chris
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“@christopherewao: Is there something wrong with trying to be d best defensive player of my time?”
Depends where you go Chris
He loves playing defense. You can tell.
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“@christopherewao: Is there something wrong with trying to be d best defensive player of my time?”
Depends where you go Chris
He loves playing defense. You can tell.
Agree Moose. In that crazy game yesterday, he seemed content in swatting some shots, while everyone else fired away. FWIW I think his recruitment is a real challenge. Cinci still aggressively pursuing him and Oregon warming up the Brinks truck. We'll see. Love this kid!!!!
Should have included UCONN right there as well. Would think foggy situation there re academic hot water would be a negative, but CO seems to love Omar Calhoun. Shot blocking rep of UCONN can't hurt either.
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I hate to post this, and hope I'm wrong,
but had a conversation with a good friend who is very close with Chris.
He said he has given a silent verbal to Cinn already.
He also said there is no chance that Hall qualifies for 2012 and JC is as likely as prep for him
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Could be.
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Wouldn't shock anyone at this point.
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Just great since we seem to play them twice a year. Can see him swatting a lot of our shots. We need Sanchez and Chandler.
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This is always the worst time of the year for news on recruits. There are way too may "friends" providing information on our recruits. The comment about CO "loves" OC is funny, as I thought CO and Felix were close.
And as we all know from recent history, most of this information, regardless of the "inside" sources, is meaningless. The only real source for information is where the recruit has been seen getting a haircut.
If CO has made a "silent" commitment, he probably should not venture out to OR, or at least stop off in Vegas.
We can only hope in Coach Lavin.
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True or not this shouldn't bother people too much. Obekpa doesn't make or break this year's recruiting class.
We needed a true pg, multiple big men, and additional scoring options.
Sampson, Branch, and Balamou put us halfway there. Chris would be nice, especially because of what he brings defensively. But he's not the answer, and we have other options we're involved with if he chooses to go elsewhere.
Next two weeks should be fun.
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This is always the worst time of the year for news on recruits. There are way too may "friends" providing information on our recruits. The comment about CO "loves" OC is funny, as I thought CO and Felix were close.
And as we all know from recent history, most of this information, regardless of the "inside" sources, is meaningless. The only real source for information is where the recruit has been seen getting a haircut.
If CO has made a "silent" commitment, he probably should not venture out to OR, or at least stop off in Vegas.
We can only hope in Coach Lavin.
Why is Obekpa CO and Calhoun OC, but Balamou is just Felix? :)
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No, losing obekpa certainly would not break this class. He certainly has some upside though and would be a nice addition. We still need 2 big guys though. We'll see what transpires.
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No, losing obekpa certainly would not break this class. He certainly has some upside though and would be a nice addition. We still need 2 big guys though. We'll see what transpires.
Yea, he wouldn't solve everything himself. But if the Cinci talk is true, then it does make landing Sanchez & Chandler or another big man the top priority.
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Would appreciate y'all stopp referrin to Christopher Obekpa as CO since its confusin to us ex-military.
Just sayin.
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We better hope Chandler is eligible
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Would appreciate y'all stopp referrin to Christopher Obekpa as CO since its confusin to us ex-military.
Just sayin.
I guess if we were recruiting someone named Xavier Orlando then XO would be out also, just saying :) ;D
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So two weeks ago everybody agreed that SJU was out of the Obekpa sweepstakes and everyone was relaxed. Now someone posts that SJU is out of the running again and it is the end of the world.
I can tell you that I was told SJU made up a lot of ground when he visited. Cincy is the big comp, not worried about Oregon. Highly unlikely he is going cross country to play.
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So two weeks ago everybody agreed that SJU was out of the Obekpa sweepstakes and everyone was relaxed. Now someone posts that SJU is out of the running again and it is the end of the world.
I can tell you that I was told SJU made up a lot of ground when he visited. Cincy is the big comp, not worried about Oregon. Highly unlikely he is going cross country to play.
Whose panicked?
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So two weeks ago everybody agreed that SJU was out of the Obekpa sweepstakes and everyone was relaxed. Now someone posts that SJU is out of the running again and it is the end of the world.
I can tell you that I was told SJU made up a lot of ground when he visited. Cincy is the big comp, not worried about Oregon. Highly unlikely he is going cross country to play.
Whose panicked?
Exactly. Whatever happens, happens!
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So two weeks ago everybody agreed that SJU was out of the Obekpa sweepstakes and everyone was relaxed. Now someone posts that SJU is out of the running again and it is the end of the world.
I can tell you that I was told SJU made up a lot of ground when he visited. Cincy is the big comp, not worried about Oregon. Highly unlikely he is going cross country to play.
Whose panicked?
I don't consider you a SJU fan so I wouldn't expect you to understand.
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The only source close to Obekpa that matters is Jaklitsch. Ten days ago he said; "Chris hasn’t made a decision on what he’s going to do.”
He sounds like many other HS seniors as they get down to the wire.
The silent verbal ? What is the benefit to keeping it silent? Added harrasment from annoying coaches. It seems to be a prevalent term lately.
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So two weeks ago everybody agreed that SJU was out of the Obekpa sweepstakes and everyone was relaxed. Now someone posts that SJU is out of the running again and it is the end of the world.
I can tell you that I was told SJU made up a lot of ground when he visited. Cincy is the big comp, not worried about Oregon. Highly unlikely he is going cross country to play.
Whose panicked?
I don't consider you a SJU fan so I wouldn't expect you to understand.
Sounds like you're the 1 panicked.
What'd so hard to understand? Losing a recruit? As a die hard, holier than thou fan such as yourself, you should be used to losing recruits by now
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et tu Brute
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The only source close to Obekpa that matters is Jaklitsch. Ten days ago he said; "Chris hasn’t made a decision on what he’s going to do.”
He sounds like many other HS seniors as they get down to the wire.
The silent verbal ? What is the benefit to keeping it silent? Added harrasment from annoying coaches. It seems to be a prevalent term lately.
I ask myself the same question. Why does it seem everthing is silent or secretive? It seems to me if a recruit knows he wants to commit somewhere, why not verbal? Why the mystery recruits?
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By staying silent, the kid (and the program) get to wait until the announcement gets maximum exposure (e.g., after the tournament), but it's still a way of letting the coach know you are coming so he keeps a spot for you and doesn't move on to the next target.
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The only source close to Obekpa that matters is Jaklitsch. Ten days ago he said; "Chris hasn’t made a decision on what he’s going to do.”
He sounds like many other HS seniors as they get down to the wire.
The silent verbal ? What is the benefit to keeping it silent? Added harrasment from annoying coaches. It seems to be a prevalent term lately.
I ask myself the same question. Why does it seem everthing is silent or secretive? It seems to me if a recruit knows he wants to commit somewhere, why not verbal? Why the mystery recruits?
Maybe the JUCO never commits if Obecka commits first. Theres a ton of reasons why
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FWIW, Chris dropped by ESPN in ratings by about 20 slots. When asked why, Telep responded
“@DaveTelep: @rgsaunders1 gotta know how to play the game. Can block shots but feel isn't where it should be.”
BTW, talk to Nate Blue about Telep. He recently noted Telep was way off the mark with Moe and adversely effected his selection to some all star games.
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The only source close to Obekpa that matters is Jaklitsch. Ten days ago he said; "Chris hasn’t made a decision on what he’s going to do.”
He sounds like many other HS seniors as they get down to the wire.
The silent verbal ? What is the benefit to keeping it silent? Added harrasment from annoying coaches. It seems to be a prevalent term lately.
I ask myself the same question. Why does it seem everthing is silent or secretive? It seems to me if a recruit knows he wants to commit somewhere, why not verbal? Why the mystery recruits?
Maybe the JUCO never commits if Obecka commits first. Theres a ton of reasons why
If that is the case wouldn't the JUCO just decommit down the line if Obekpa commits?
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FWIW, Chris dropped by ESPN in ratings by about 20 slots. When asked why, Telep responded
“@DaveTelep: @rgsaunders1 gotta know how to play the game. Can block shots but feel isn't where it should be.”
BTW, talk to Nate Blue about Telep. He recently noted Telep was way off the mark with Moe and adversely effected his selection to some all star games.
I think Chris at 77 is fair. I generally like Telep but I agreed with Nate, I was baffled at Moe being 37. Off topic but still dont see the hype with Isaiah Austin. IMO not even close to being the 3rd best player in the country
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FWIW, Chris dropped by ESPN in ratings by about 20 slots. When asked why, Telep responded
“@DaveTelep: @rgsaunders1 gotta know how to play the game. Can block shots but feel isn't where it should be.”
BTW, talk to Nate Blue about Telep. He recently noted Telep was way off the mark with Moe and adversely effected his selection to some all star games.
I think Chris at 77 is fair. I generally like Telep but I agreed with Nate, I was baffled at Moe being 37. Off topic but still dont see the hype with Isaiah Austin. IMO not even close to being the 3rd best player in the country
And ant Davis gets every award in the universe for being 175 soaking wet and blocking a ton of shots. These guys ride. Bandwagons
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FWIW, Chris dropped by ESPN in ratings by about 20 slots. When asked why, Telep responded
“@DaveTelep: @rgsaunders1 gotta know how to play the game. Can block shots but feel isn't where it should be.”
BTW, talk to Nate Blue about Telep. He recently noted Telep was way off the mark with Moe and adversely effected his selection to some all star games.
I think Chris at 77 is fair. I generally like Telep but I agreed with Nate, I was baffled at Moe being 37. Off topic but still dont see the hype with Isaiah Austin. IMO not even close to being the 3rd best player in the country
And ant Davis gets every award in the universe for being 175 soaking wet and blocking a ton of shots. These guys ride. Bandwagons
Sneaking feeling the double digit rebound aaverage, the 62% shooting from the field...oh yes, and being the best player on the best college team in basketball just MIGHT have a little to do with the awards and the bandwagoning. If Chris were dominating against Kansas (twice), Inidana, Baylor, Louisville (twice), Vandy, Florida, and hey - Moe Harkless and St Johns (8 blocks, yes - but also 15 boards and points) - he'd likley have his own bandwagon. Other than blocks, he puts up mediocre numbers against mediocre talent. Terrific potential, and those blocks ARE nice. But he is more likely to become UCLA's Anthony Stover than he is KYs Anthony Davis....
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Here is a qoute from Katz today.
"He's a great kid (O. Calhoun) and been really positive and we're close to adding another kid," Jim Calhoun said.
Is he referring to Obekpa? If so I hope Obekpa talks to Oriakhi before he heads up there.
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Here is a qoute from Katz today.
"He's a great kid (O. Calhoun) and been really positive and we're close to adding another kid," Jim Calhoun said.
Is he referring to Obekpa? If so I hope Obekpa talks to Oriakhi before he heads up there.
Don't forget Calhoun likely inebriated when he said it.
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Here is a qoute from Katz today.
"He's a great kid (O. Calhoun) and been really positive and we're close to adding another kid," Jim Calhoun said.
Is he referring to Obekpa? If so I hope Obekpa talks to Oriakhi before he heads up there.
No way. I would be shocked if Obepka is even seriously considering UCONN at this point.
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Here is a qoute from Katz today.
"He's a great kid (O. Calhoun) and been really positive and we're close to adding another kid," Jim Calhoun said.
Is he referring to Obekpa? If so I hope Obekpa talks to Oriakhi before he heads up there.
No way. I would be shocked if Obepka is even seriously considering UCONN at this point.
Would you be shocked if Omar asks out too?
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Here is a qoute from Katz today.
"He's a great kid (O. Calhoun) and been really positive and we're close to adding another kid," Jim Calhoun said.
Is he referring to Obekpa? If so I hope Obekpa talks to Oriakhi before he heads up there.
No way. I would be shocked if Obepka is even seriously considering UCONN at this point.
Would you be shocked if Omar asks out too?
Not shocked but a bit surprised. No impact to SJU as he would not be allowed to go to another BE school anyway.
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Here is a qoute from Katz today.
"He's a great kid (O. Calhoun) and been really positive and we're close to adding another kid," Jim Calhoun said.
Is he referring to Obekpa? If so I hope Obekpa talks to Oriakhi before he heads up there.
No way. I would be shocked if Obepka is even seriously considering UCONN at this point.
Would you be shocked if Omar asks out too?
Not shocked but a bit surprised. No impact to SJU as he would not be allowed to go to another BE school anyway.
I would like to see that challenged just for the sake of it. But I'm not in love with Omar's game. Plus I think him and D-Lo might kill eachother in the same backcourt.
By the way was interested to see Oriakhi probably won't be going to the SEC as they don't accept sr year transfers and would need academic waiver.
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By the way was interested to see Oriakhi probably won't be going to the SEC as they don't accept sr year transfers and would need academic waiver.
How about the ACC? UNC needs some help up front.
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By the way was interested to see Oriakhi probably won't be going to the SEC as they don't accept sr year transfers and would need academic waiver.
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How about the ACC? UNC needs some help up front.
Yea just read SEC doesn't allow it
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Here is a qoute from Katz today.
"He's a great kid (O. Calhoun) and been really positive and we're close to adding another kid," Jim Calhoun said.
Is he referring to Obekpa? If so I hope Obekpa talks to Oriakhi before he heads up there.
Sounds like he was talking about Bradley Hayes of Florida who is a late bloomer.
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Not a big fan of Rothstein, but as I have noted, I agree.
“@JonRothstein: Cincinnati going to be tough to beat @kthstlrfn any update on Chris obekpa?”
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Not a big fan of Rothstein, but as I have noted, I agree.
“@JonRothstein: Cincinnati going to be tough to beat @kthstlrfn any update on Chris obekpa?”
Mint...
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Not a big fan of Rothstein, but as I have noted, I agree.
“@JonRothstein: Cincinnati going to be tough to beat @kthstlrfn any update on Chris obekpa?”
Mint...
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Not a big fan of Rothstein, but as I have noted, I agree.
“@JonRothstein: Cincinnati going to be tough to beat @kthstlrfn any update on Chris obekpa?”
Mint...
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It is a famous Jon Rothstein saying...I was not suggesting I liked what he wrote.
He will tweet something like, "Just had the Clams Casino at Dominick's on Arthur Ave in the Bronx...Mint."
Jon is a super nice guy, but he is tweeting things already heard and made public. I think SJU made up a lot of ground but Cincy is still the team to beat for Chris.
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Not a big fan of Rothstein, but as I have noted, I agree.
“@JonRothstein: Cincinnati going to be tough to beat @kthstlrfn any update on Chris obekpa?”
Mint...
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It is a famous Jon Rothstein saying...I was not suggesting I liked what he wrote.
He will tweet something like, "Just had the Clams Casino at Dominick's on Arthur Ave in the Bronx...Mint."
Jon is a super nice guy, but he is tweeting things already heard and made public. I think SJU made up a lot of ground but Cincy is still the team to beat for Chris.
Gotcha. I stopped following Rothstein a long time ago so hadn't heard the "Mint" saying.
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Not a big fan of Rothstein, but as I have noted, I agree.
“@JonRothstein: Cincinnati going to be tough to beat @kthstlrfn any update on Chris obekpa?”
Mint...
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It is a famous Jon Rothstein saying...I was not suggesting I liked what he wrote.
He will tweet something like, "Just had the Clams Casino at Dominick's on Arthur Ave in the Bronx...Mint."
Jon is a super nice guy, but he is tweeting things already heard and made public. I think SJU made up a lot of ground but Cincy is still the team to beat for Chris.
At this point what does "Cincy is still the team to beat for Chris " really mean. Don't you think the kid has already made up his mind ?. What is he expecting us to do that will change his mind ? What is he waiting for ? The highest bidder ? Perhaps waiting to see who else commits before he does ? He should have a pretty good idea of who his teammates will be for next year - on both teams.
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Not a big fan of Rothstein, but as I have noted, I agree.
“@JonRothstein: Cincinnati going to be tough to beat @kthstlrfn any update on Chris obekpa?”
Mint...
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It is a famous Jon Rothstein saying...I was not suggesting I liked what he wrote.
He will tweet something like, "Just had the Clams Casino at Dominick's on Arthur Ave in the Bronx...Mint."
Jon is a super nice guy, but he is tweeting things already heard and made public. I think SJU made up a lot of ground but Cincy is still the team to beat for Chris.
At this point what does "Cincy is still the team to beat for Chris " really mean. Don't you think the kid has already made up his mind ?. What is he expecting us to do that will change his mind ? What is he waiting for ? The highest bidder ? Perhaps waiting to see who else commits before he does ? He should have a pretty good idea of who his teammates will be for next year - on both teams.
I tend to agree with you. For the kids that were waiting to see what their grades were like in the spring - I understand why they wait so long to make a commitment. If you need to check on your eligibility or are debating whether to prep next year, then it makes sense to hold off making a decision.
But what are top recruits like Shabaz, Noel, and even lesser recruits like Obekpa, waiting for? They didn't shoot up the rankings with a solid senior year... they've been sought after since they were sophomores.
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A lot of kids just love the spotlight.
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In honor of the SHU Rivals.com board setting odds for the Kyle Anderson recruitment I will break it down this way for Obekpa:
Cincy: 45.3%
SJU: 44.7%
Providence: 6.75%
Oregon: 3.25%
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In honor of the SHU Rivals.com board setting odds for the Kyle Anderson recruitment I will break it down this way for Obekpa:
Cincy: 45.3%
SJU: 44.7%
Providence: 6.75%
Oregon: 3.25%
Ill take those odds :P
FWIW id rather have (assuming eligibility) Sanches, chandler, and Nolan than Obekpa. But I would still love to have Obekpa
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In honor of the SHU Rivals.com board setting odds for the Kyle Anderson recruitment I will break it down this way for Obekpa:
Cincy: 45.3%
SJU: 44.7%
Providence: 6.75%
Oregon: 3.25%
Ill take those odds :P
FWIW id rather have (assuming eligibility) Sanches, chandler, and Nolan than Obekpa. But I would still love to have Obekpa
You can't prefer Nolan to Obekpa. Obekpa is more physically mature and can provide defense at such a high level it offsets the combination of lesser defense and maybe better offense out of Nolan. No doubt Nolan is the backup plan.
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In honor of the SHU Rivals.com board setting odds for the Kyle Anderson recruitment I will break it down this way for Obekpa:
Cincy: 45.3%
SJU: 44.7%
Providence: 6.75%
Oregon: 3.25%
Assuming the validity and closeness of the numbers, what beocmes the deciding factor ? You would think both teams would have shot their load by now, unless $incy's load is a little bigger .
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In honor of the SHU Rivals.com board setting odds for the Kyle Anderson recruitment I will break it down this way for Obekpa:
Cincy: 45.3%
SJU: 44.7%
Providence: 6.75%
Oregon: 3.25%
Ill take those odds :P
FWIW id rather have (assuming eligibility) Sanches, chandler, and Nolan than Obekpa. But I would still love to have Obekpa
You can't prefer Nolan to Obekpa. Obekpa is more physically mature and can provide defense at such a high level it offsets the combination of lesser defense and maybe better offense out of Nolan. No doubt Nolan is the backup plan.
Haha dont tell me what I can and can't do moose. Seriously though, from what ive seen from obekpa I just think he wont be able to see the floor very much in his first year or two because he will be a big liability on offense.
Also moose I saw you mention on redmen that well get a third player who may or may not be considered a big. Just curious but it cant be Sanches your referring to right?
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Sanchez / Chandler, Sanchez / Nolan likely outcomes in that order if scuttlebutt re: Obekpa true IMO. That would be ok, but I certainly prefer Obekpa in the mix. Another mid size, flexible big to play some three and four? We'll see.
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In honor of the SHU Rivals.com board setting odds for the Kyle Anderson recruitment I will break it down this way for Obekpa:
Cincy: 45.3%
SJU: 44.7%
Providence: 6.75%
Oregon: 3.25%
Ill take those odds :P
FWIW id rather have (assuming eligibility) Sanches, chandler, and Nolan than Obekpa. But I would still love to have Obekpa
You can't prefer Nolan to Obekpa. Obekpa is more physically mature and can provide defense at such a high level it offsets the combination of lesser defense and maybe better offense out of Nolan. No doubt Nolan is the backup plan.
Haha dont tell me what I can and can't do moose. Seriously though, from what ive seen from obekpa I just think he wont be able to see the floor very much in his first year or two because he will be a big liability on offense.
Also moose I saw you mention on redmen that well get a third player who may or may not be considered a big. Just curious but it cant be Sanches your referring to right?
Obekpa can contribute defensively year 1 from the start. Nolan I'm not sure about either way year one. Either seems to be complimentary to Chandler who is your Center providing offense.
Do you consider Sanchez a big? I do because he can play 4 as well as the 3.
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In honor of the SHU Rivals.com board setting odds for the Kyle Anderson recruitment I will break it down this way for Obekpa:
Cincy: 45.3%
SJU: 44.7%
Providence: 6.75%
Oregon: 3.25%
Ill take those odds :P
FWIW id rather have (assuming eligibility) Sanches, chandler, and Nolan than Obekpa. But I would still love to have Obekpa
You can't prefer Nolan to Obekpa. Obekpa is more physically mature and can provide defense at such a high level it offsets the combination of lesser defense and maybe better offense out of Nolan. No doubt Nolan is the backup plan.
Haha dont tell me what I can and can't do moose. Seriously though, from what ive seen from obekpa I just think he wont be able to see the floor very much in his first year or two because he will be a big liability on offense.
Also moose I saw you mention on redmen that well get a third player who may or may not be considered a big. Just curious but it cant be Sanches your referring to right?
Obekpa can contribute defensively year 1 from the start. Nolan I'm not sure about either way year one. Either seems to be complimentary to Chandler who is your Center providing offense.
Do you consider Sanchez a big? I do because he can play 4 as well as the 3.
No I absolutely think of him as a big and I would love to have him. That's why I was curious if you were referring to him or not because I would be surprised if anyone didn't consider him a big.
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In honor of the SHU Rivals.com board setting odds for the Kyle Anderson recruitment I will break it down this way for Obekpa:
Cincy: 45.3%
SJU: 44.7%
Providence: 6.75%
Oregon: 3.25%
Assuming the validity and closeness of the numbers, what beocmes the deciding factor ? You would think both teams would have shot their load by now, unless $incy's load is a little bigger .
You understand I was partly joking.
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Sanchez / Chandler, Sanchez / Nolan likely outcomes in that order if scuttlebutt re: Obekpa true IMO. That would be ok, but I certainly prefer Obekpa in the mix. Another mid size, flexible big to play some three and four? We'll see.
No chance that we can get 3 of them? Like a Chandler/Sanchez/Nolan package? Or will too many incoming post players scare one another off?
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Not a big fan of Rothstein, but as I have noted, I agree.
“@JonRothstein: Cincinnati going to be tough to beat @kthstlrfn any update on Chris obekpa?”
Mint...
?
It is a famous Jon Rothstein saying...I was not suggesting I liked what he wrote.
He will tweet something like, "Just had the Clams Casino at Dominick's on Arthur Ave in the Bronx...Mint."
Jon is a super nice guy, but he is tweeting things already heard and made public. I think SJU made up a lot of ground but Cincy is still the team to beat for Chris.
At this point what does "Cincy is still the team to beat for Chris " really mean. Don't you think the kid has already made up his mind ?. What is he expecting us to do that will change his mind ? What is he waiting for ? The highest bidder ? Perhaps waiting to see who else commits before he does ? He should have a pretty good idea of who his teammates will be for next year - on both teams.
I think he's waiting on his trip to Oregon this weekend at least. SMH
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In honor of the SHU Rivals.com board setting odds for the Kyle Anderson recruitment I will break it down this way for Obekpa:
Cincy: 45.3%
SJU: 44.7%
Providence: 6.75%
Oregon: 3.25%
Assuming the validity and closeness of the numbers, what beocmes the deciding factor ? You would think both teams would have shot their load by now, unless $incy's load is a little bigger .
You understand I was partly joking.
With my Fordham grad degree, I was able to get your subtlety Fordham. Preety funny though!
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Sanchez / Chandler, Sanchez / Nolan likely outcomes in that order if scuttlebutt re: Obekpa true IMO. That would be ok, but I certainly prefer Obekpa in the mix. Another mid size, flexible big to play some three and four? We'll see.
No chance that we can get 3 of them? Like a Chandler/Sanchez/Nolan package? Or will too many incoming post players scare one another off?
I think 3 is definitely possible and likely the direction staff is moving.
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In honor of the SHU Rivals.com board setting odds for the Kyle Anderson recruitment I will break it down this way for Obekpa:
Cincy: 45.3%
SJU: 44.7%
Providence: 6.75%
Oregon: 3.25%
Assuming the validity and closeness of the numbers, what beocmes the deciding factor ? You would think both teams would have shot their load by now, unless $incy's load is a little bigger .
You understand I was partly joking.
Wasn't really focusing on the numbers as much as you saying it's a two team race with $incy slightly ahead. If so, what is the missing ingredient. Rhetorically speaking assuming we're a close second do we $till have a $hot.
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Sanchez / Chandler, Sanchez / Nolan likely outcomes in that order if scuttlebutt re: Obekpa true IMO. That would be ok, but I certainly prefer Obekpa in the mix. Another mid size, flexible big to play some three and four? We'll see.
No chance that we can get 3 of them? Like a Chandler/Sanchez/Nolan package? Or will too many incoming post players scare one another off?
I think 3 is definitely possible and likely the direction staff is moving.
I'd like nothing more than that combo, with our without Obekpa. I love the height of Chandler and Nolan at 6'11 and 6'10 respectively. Lots of room for both guys. Would allow Sanchez to play more at the 4. Would be a phenomenal class. Crossing my fingers.
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Sanchez / Chandler, Sanchez / Nolan likely outcomes in that order if scuttlebutt re: Obekpa true IMO. That would be ok, but I certainly prefer Obekpa in the mix. Another mid size, flexible big to play some three and four? We'll see.
No chance that we can get 3 of them? Like a Chandler/Sanchez/Nolan package? Or will too many incoming post players scare one another off?
I think 3 is definitely possible and likely the direction staff is moving.
I'd like nothing more than that combo, with our without Obekpa. I love the height of Chandler and Nolan at 6'11 and 6'10 respectively. Lots of room for both guys. Would allow Sanchez to play more at the 4. Would be a phenomenal class. Crossing my fingers.
man, that would be perfect. Let's hope things fall our way the next few weeks.
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Chandler and Obekpa and add a shooter JUCO shooter. We are focusing too much energy on this class and losing recruits in the other classes. Seems almost like a recurring nightmare
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Chandler and Obekpa and add a shooter JUCO shooter. We are focusing too much energy on this class and losing recruits in the other classes. Seems almost like a recurring nightmare
So no Sanchez in your class?
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Chandler and Obekpa and add a shooter JUCO shooter. We are focusing too much energy on this class and losing recruits in the other classes. Seems almost like a recurring nightmare
So no Sanchez in your class?
After a return to the ncaa's all those recruit will be back
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Sanchez looks good and will help us balance this class with a JR? But I just don't see him getting tons of minutes at the PF(Gods Gift & Jakarr Sampson) sport or 3 spot( Amir , Sir Dom & 3 guard line ups). If he could play the full time 5 like Obekpa he would be more attractive to me. Just can't imagine he would be happy as our 3rd string PF & C if we were to landed Obekpa & Chandler.
Sanchez however could prove to be positive for the future Latin American recruits, that is huge pipe line that SJU being a NYC University should be able to tap into and dominate. But I also feel the same way about the continent of Africa. Latin America, the Caribbean , Canada and Africa are the future of Western Hemispheric Basketball and SJU is geographically placed in the melting pot giving it a favorable advantage.
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Sanchez looks good and will help us balance this class with a JR? But I just don't see him getting tons of minutes at the PF(Gods Gift & Jakarr Sampson) sport or 3 spot( Amir , Sir Dom & 3 guard line ups). If he could play the full time 5 like Obekpa he would be more attractive to me. Just can't imagine he would be happy as our 3rd string PF & C if we were to landed Obekpa & Chandler.
Sanchez however could prove to be positive for the future Latin American recruits, that is huge pipe line that SJU being a NYC University should be able to tap into and dominate. But I also feel the same way about the continent of Africa. Latin America, the Caribbean , Canada and Africa are the future of Western Hemispheric Basketball and SJU is geographically placed in the melting pot giving it a favorable advantage.
IMO Sanchez much more skilled and court savvy than Gift.
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Sanchez and 2 out of the 3 obekpa ,chandler and Nolan would build a very scary team. If we add one more scoring wing wing in Morris we'd contend to win the big east. We have enough defensive wings we just need to add another scorer. Lav said he was signing 5 recruits for this season since then we added balamou and Sampson lost moe= 4 more ships to fill!
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I ll take 2 of the above. Im not greedy. Im also realistic, Dont think we are going to get 3 and we dont need 3 [assuming the 2 qualify]. CO and and Chandler would be the best 2 IMO.
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Sanchez looks good and will help us balance this class with a JR? But I just don't see him getting tons of minutes at the PF(Gods Gift & Jakarr Sampson) sport or 3 spot( Amir , Sir Dom & 3 guard line ups). If he could play the full time 5 like Obekpa he would be more attractive to me. Just can't imagine he would be happy as our 3rd string PF & C if we were to landed Obekpa & Chandler.
Sanchez however could prove to be positive for the future Latin American recruits, that is huge pipe line that SJU being a NYC University should be able to tap into and dominate. But I also feel the same way about the continent of Africa. Latin America, the Caribbean , Canada and Africa are the future of Western Hemispheric Basketball and SJU is geographically placed in the melting pot giving it a favorable advantage.
IMO Sanchez much more skilled and court savvy than Gift.
+100
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Gift will come off the bench.
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Sanchez looks good and will help us balance this class with a JR? But I just don't see him getting tons of minutes at the PF(Gods Gift & Jakarr Sampson) sport or 3 spot( Amir , Sir Dom & 3 guard line ups). If he could play the full time 5 like Obekpa he would be more attractive to me. Just can't imagine he would be happy as our 3rd string PF & C if we were to landed Obekpa & Chandler.
Sanchez however could prove to be positive for the future Latin American recruits, that is huge pipe line that SJU being a NYC University should be able to tap into and dominate. But I also feel the same way about the continent of Africa. Latin America, the Caribbean , Canada and Africa are the future of Western Hemispheric Basketball and SJU is geographically placed in the melting pot giving it a favorable advantage.
IMO Sanchez much more skilled and court savvy than Gift.
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Very different games though from what I've seen. Sanchez may well be the better player, but in the games I saw he didn't play with his back to the basket, and didn't appear to be the rebounder Gift is. Moose you probably saw Sanchez more than I, but I didn't see him being a true post player.
With that said - Sanchez is miles ahead of Gift in terms of seeing the floor, moving without the ball, passing, ball handling... all those things.
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Sanchez looks good and will help us balance this class with a JR? But I just don't see him getting tons of minutes at the PF(Gods Gift & Jakarr Sampson) sport or 3 spot( Amir , Sir Dom & 3 guard line ups). If he could play the full time 5 like Obekpa he would be more attractive to me. Just can't imagine he would be happy as our 3rd string PF & C if we were to landed Obekpa & Chandler.
Sanchez however could prove to be positive for the future Latin American recruits, that is huge pipe line that SJU being a NYC University should be able to tap into and dominate. But I also feel the same way about the continent of Africa. Latin America, the Caribbean , Canada and Africa are the future of Western Hemispheric Basketball and SJU is geographically placed in the melting pot giving it a favorable advantage.
IMO Sanchez much more skilled and court savvy than Gift.
+100
Very different games though from what I've seen. Sanchez may well be the better player, but in the games I saw he didn't play with his back to the basket, and didn't appear to be the rebounder Gift is. Moose you probably saw Sanchez more than I, but I didn't see him being a true post player.
With that said - Sanchez is miles ahead of Gift in terms of seeing the floor, moving without the ball, passing, ball handling... all those things.
Anyone can play 4 if we have a legit center(s) like Chandler, Nolan or Obekpa. I think Sanchez and Jakarr will be 3/4's for us.
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Here at the NYC wheelchair classic and looking at all 6'8 of obekpa. Not sure if he's playing yet he's talking to the tournament officials
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Here at the NYC wheelchair classic and looking at all 6'8 of obekpa. Not sure if he's playing yet he's talking to the tournament officials
Where is the NYC Wheelchair Classic being played? I've gone to this game in years past but I have not seen it advertised in a couple of years.
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York college on liberty and guy r brewer in queens
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Tried to go to Wheelchair Classic back in the 70's when B King was a senior-got lost in Queens, ended up in car accident-not a good night and we didn't get King.
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Here at the NYC wheelchair classic and looking at all 6'8 of obekpa. Not sure if he's playing yet he's talking to the tournament officials
Womp Womp will not be playing
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Here at the NYC wheelchair classic and looking at all 6'8 of obekpa. Not sure if he's playing yet he's talking to the tournament officials
Womp Womp will not be playing
Why not?
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Here at the NYC wheelchair classic and looking at all 6'8 of obekpa. Not sure if he's playing yet he's talking to the tournament officials
Womp Womp will not be playing
Why not?
I overheard he did not attend the mandatory senior citizen home visit
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Let's hope he returns to Queens in the summer and fall. I feel the SJU chances are looking better. Cincy is rumored as being in front for a long time, but they have not received a committment. He's spending his post HS season time a lot closer to Queens than Cincy. The time works in favor of SJU if they are chasing.
I suppose he gets this trip to Oregon over with and we'll hear the word.
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Let's hope he returns to Queens in the summer and fall. I feel the SJU chances are looking better. Cincy is rumored as being in front for a long time, but they have not received a committment. He's spending his post HS season time a lot closer to Queens than Cincy. The time works in favor of SJU if they are chasing.
I suppose he gets this trip to Oregon over with and we'll hear the word.
What New Yorker in their right mind chooses Cinci over SJ? Oh yea, Lance.
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Let's hope he returns to Queens in the summer and fall. I feel the SJU chances are looking better. Cincy is rumored as being in front for a long time, but they have not received a committment. He's spending his post HS season time a lot closer to Queens than Cincy. The time works in favor of SJU if they are chasing.
I suppose he gets this trip to Oregon over with and we'll hear the word.
What New Yorker in their right mind chooses Cinci over SJ? Oh yea, Lance.
Probably choose Cincy over Norm.
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Let's hope he returns to Queens in the summer and fall. I feel the SJU chances are looking better. Cincy is rumored as being in front for a long time, but they have not received a committment. He's spending his post HS season time a lot closer to Queens than Cincy. The time works in favor of SJU if they are chasing.
I suppose he gets this trip to Oregon over with and we'll hear the word.
What New Yorker in their right mind chooses Cinci over SJ? Oh yea, Lance.
No comparison. Besides, do you really consider Obekpa a New Yorker? Other local products have picked Cincy or Depaul over SJU. Just hoping this guy sees a good future close to his new home. This area has worked out for him thus far.
We'll soon know
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Yes, I consider Obekpa a New Yorker. And because of that, I think he is an important recruit. If Norm was still here we could expect him to leave, but Lavin makes players better. He's got a pro staff. He has the NY media behind him and this entire program. Cinci is a thug school.
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Yes, I consider Obekpa a New Yorker. And because of that, I think he is an important recruit. If Norm was still here we could expect him to leave, but Lavin makes players better. He's got a pro staff. He has the NY media behind him and this entire program. Cinci is a thug school.
Why would you consider him a NYer? He moved from Africa to a prep school in Centereach, 50 miles from the city, to play hoops and get a scholly. There's nothing NY about him.
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Yes, I consider Obekpa a New Yorker. And because of that, I think he is an important recruit. If Norm was still here we could expect him to leave, but Lavin makes players better. He's got a pro staff. He has the NY media behind him and this entire program. Cinci is a thug school.
Why would you consider him a NYer? He moved from Africa to a prep school in Centereach, 50 miles from the city, to play hoops and get a scholly. There's nothing NY about him.
Sorry, you live in Long Island, you're a New Yorker. People come to. NY from all over the world. After which do know what they're called? New Yorkers. Who gives a sh*t where's he's from originally? I certainly don't.
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Why would you consider him a NYer? He moved from Africa to a prep school in Centereach, 50 miles from the city, to play hoops and get a scholly. There's nothing NY about him.
Sorry, you live in Long Island, you're a New Yorker. People come to. NY from all over the world. After which do know what they're called? New Yorkers. Who gives a sh*t where's he's from originally? I certainly don't.
Maybe so, but does HE consider himself a New Yorker?
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Obekpa isn't a New Yorker, but he is an African, and it means something that NYC has the largest African population in North America. Most immigrant Africans prefer to be in a culturally diverse environment as opposed to say, a place like Cincy!
I actually felt that the frontrunner for Obekpa was UCONN, but then the Oriakhi depature with his father's comments about his son being treated like a "slave" (Oriahkhi also Nigerian I think) and then all the post-season bans. Seems like things are just imploding at UCONN.
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Let's hope he returns to Queens in the summer and fall. I feel the SJU chances are looking better. Cincy is rumored as being in front for a long time, but they have not received a committment. He's spending his post HS season time a lot closer to Queens than Cincy. The time works in favor of SJU if they are chasing.
I suppose he gets this trip to Oregon over with and we'll hear the word.
What New Yorker in their right mind chooses Cinci over SJ? Oh yea, Lance.
You did say "right mind" didn't you.
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Yes, I consider Obekpa a New Yorker. And because of that, I think he is an important recruit. If Norm was still here we could expect him to leave, but Lavin makes players better. He's got a pro staff. He has the NY media behind him and this entire program. Cinci is a thug school.
Why would you consider him a NYer? He moved from Africa to a prep school in Centereach, 50 miles from the city, to play hoops and get a scholly. There's nothing NY about him.
Sorry, you live in Long Island, you're a New Yorker. People come to. NY from all over the world. After which do know what they're called? New Yorkers. Who gives a sh*t where's he's from originally? I certainly don't.
I don't give a sh*t where he's from now either though. To me Obekpa would be great for his shot blocking ability right out of the gate, and the hope the staff could work on his back to the basket moves over the next few years. He gets no bonus points in my eyes for playing his HS basketball in Centerreach long Island.
This isn't Moe or any other player that everyone associated with NYC and had grown up in our own backyard. He hasn't.
Normally I agree with your NYC kids first mentality. Don't think it applies here. Obekpa doesn't pave the way for future kids or prove we can recruit in NYC again.
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Yes, I consider Obekpa a New Yorker. And because of that, I think he is an important recruit. If Norm was still here we could expect him to leave, but Lavin makes players better. He's got a pro staff. He has the NY media behind him and this entire program. Cinci is a thug school.
Why would you consider him a NYer? He moved from Africa to a prep school in Centereach, 50 miles from the city, to play hoops and get a scholly. There's nothing NY about him.
Sorry, you live in Long Island, you're a New Yorker. People come to. NY from all over the world. After which do know what they're called? New Yorkers. Who gives a sh*t where's he's from originally? I certainly don't.
people living in Suffolk may as well be living on the Oregon coastline. :2funny:
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Yes, I consider Obekpa a New Yorker. And because of that, I think he is an important recruit. If Norm was still here we could expect him to leave, but Lavin makes players better. He's got a pro staff. He has the NY media behind him and this entire program. Cinci is a thug school.
Why would you consider him a NYer? He moved from Africa to a prep school in Centereach, 50 miles from the city, to play hoops and get a scholly. There's nothing NY about him.
Sorry, you live in Long Island, you're a New Yorker. People come to. NY from all over the world. After which do know what they're called? New Yorkers. Who gives a sh*t where's he's from originally? I certainly don't.
Are you talking about NY Stater? If so, I still don't agree Chris is a NYer based upon his personal situation but could agree generally that a LIer is a NYer. However as someone who grew up out Centereach way I can tell you now those folks are not NYers as far as the city is concerned. And Purist, as someone who grew up in Suffolk I would say for the vast majority you're not so far from wrong, especially if you're east of Smithtown (which I was growing up, as is Centereach).
But back to Chris, what is his citizenship? Where would he be lving if he wasn't 6'8" tall? Not in NY, not even in the US. He's as much a NYer as a tourist on line at TKTS. Doesn't mean NYC wouldn't be ideal for him, but it's for the reasons Lapchick65 brought up and has nothing to do with the fact he went to prep school for a couple of years in Centereach.
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GPS discussion? Come on!
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Visiting Oregon April 22
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Visiting Oregon April 22
Pushed back?
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At Oregon 4/22-24 as per Zagoria
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Visiting Oregon April 22
Pushed back?
Yeah. Odd choice though: Sunday, Monday Tuesday visit? My guess is OSNA might be on their spring break then.
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Visiting Oregon April 22
Pushed back?
Yeah. Odd choice though: Sunday, Monday Tuesday visit? My guess is OSNA might be on their spring break then.
My optimism in Obekpa is low. We have his teammate. He changed his mind and asked to visit and we impressed him, no doubt. And he still wants to go visit Oregon. I don't know but I'm not feeling it.
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Visiting Oregon April 22
Pushed back?
Yeah. Odd choice though: Sunday, Monday Tuesday visit? My guess is OSNA might be on their spring break then.
My optimism in Obekpa is low. We have his teammate. He changed his mind and asked to visit and we impressed him, no doubt. And he still wants to go visit Oregon. I don't know but I'm not feeling it.
Well the same could be said for Cincy, no? Why would he visit Oregon if he has already decided on Cincy let alone SJU?
I think he is probably a slight Cincy lean right now but either way I am pretty sure the Oregon visit is nothing more then window dressing.
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Visiting Oregon April 22
Pushed back?
Yeah. Odd choice though: Sunday, Monday Tuesday visit? My guess is OSNA might be on their spring break then.
My optimism in Obekpa is low. We have his teammate. He changed his mind and asked to visit and we impressed him, no doubt. And he still wants to go visit Oregon. I don't know but I'm not feeling it.
Agree Moose. Kind of ruling him out in my mind. If wrong, I will be surprised and happy.
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How about that the kid has not made up his mind and is not 100% sure about where he wants to go. If he was just going thru the motions to visit another school why would a kid from Africa want to visit the state of Oregon? Pick a more touristy area to visit a school.
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Visiting Oregon April 22
Pushed back?
Yeah. Odd choice though: Sunday, Monday Tuesday visit? My guess is OSNA might be on their spring break then.
My optimism in Obekpa is low. We have his teammate. He changed his mind and asked to visit and we impressed him, no doubt. And he still wants to go visit Oregon. I don't know but I'm not feeling it.
Well the same could be said for Cincy, no? Why would he visit Oregon if he has already decided on Cincy let alone SJU?
I think he is probably a slight Cincy lean right now but either way I am pretty sure the Oregon visit is nothing more then window dressing.
Yeah but I wouldnt feel as nervous if I was Cincy since he was leaning there to begin with. Yea they could lose him too which would suck but it makes me think that we are 'really' far behind. Who knows they. If we learn anything from these sites and recruitment but its expect the unexpected.
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How about that the kid has not made up his mind and is not 100% sure about where he wants to go. If he was just going thru the motions to visit another school why would a kid from Africa want to visit the state of Oregon? Pick a more touristy area to visit a school.
Oregon puts on a hell of a show when visiting courtesy of its most famous alum.
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How about that the kid has not made up his mind and is not 100% sure about where he wants to go. If he was just going thru the motions to visit another school why would a kid from Africa want to visit the state of Oregon? Pick a more touristy area to visit a school.
Oregon puts on a hell of a show when visiting courtesy of its most famous alum.
Good point. Just think a lot of these kids have a hard time making a final decision and are not on the same time table as us ansi fans.
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How about that the kid has not made up his mind and is not 100% sure about where he wants to go. If he was just going thru the motions to visit another school why would a kid from Africa want to visit the state of Oregon? Pick a more touristy area to visit a school.
Oregon puts on a hell of a show when visiting courtesy of its most famous alum.
Good point. Just think a lot of these kids have a hard time making a final decision and are not on the same time table as us ansi fans.
If he wasn't visiting Oregon I would agree. He would be torn between STJ and Cincy.
We have his HS teammate and roommate. We put on our own show with Karr here during his visit, 40/40 club and all. Plus immediate PT. Can't do much more.
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Oregon is protecting itself re: Obekpa and I believe is in the Andrew Young hunt. All in all, as noted by other posters, Cinci in the lead, be it ever so slight and subject to change. The recruiting winds have little predictability.
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Here at the championship game oft he NYC wheelchair classic. Chris O just got his game uniform. Omar Calhoun , Jordan Washington and a few others on hand tonight. Should be a dandy
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How about that the kid has not made up his mind and is not 100% sure about where he wants to go. If he was just going thru the motions to visit another school why would a kid from Africa want to visit the state of Oregon? Pick a more touristy area to visit a school.
Oregon puts on a hell of a show when visiting courtesy of its most famous alum.
Good point. Just think a lot of these kids have a hard time making a final decision and are not on the same time table as us ansi fans.
If he wasn't visiting Oregon I would agree. He would be torn between STJ and Cincy.
We have his HS teammate and roommate. We put on our own show with Karr here during his visit, 40/40 club and all. Plus immediate PT. Can't do much more.
Agree with Moose. If he's not compelled to choose SJU with those factors, then it wasn't meant to be.
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I got one of my kids on the job playing in the All star game with Chris O. He's gonna pop the question on him and let me know what he says. Lol
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I got one of my kids on the job playing in the All star game with Chris O. He's gonna pop the question on him and let me know what he says. Lol
Chill on the case!!!
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I got one of my kids on the job playing in the All star game with Chris O. He's gonna pop the question on him and let me know what he says. Lol
Chill on the case!!!
I'm just hoping its not an answer we all don't wanna hear. They all just went into the locker room to get dressed so whatever the answer is I won't know till the end of the game
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If anybody is near the Jamaica queens area this is gonna be a great game to check out should start around 845 9 o clock
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And he disappeared ?!??
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And he disappeared ?!??
Somebody tipped him off that he was getting stalked online. ;)
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And he disappeared ?!??
You're fired Chill!
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And he disappeared ?!??
You're fired Chill!
Mind boggling one second hes on the layup line the next he's not around for the tip-off announcements
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And he disappeared ?!??
You're fired Chill!
Mind boggling one second hes on the layup line the next he's not around for the tip-off announcements
What the hell?
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And he disappeared ?!??
Somebody tipped him off that he was getting stalked online. ;)
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And he disappeared ?!??
You're fired Chill!
Mind boggling one second hes on the layup line the next he's not around for the tip-off announcements
What the hell?
Ditto bro
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Maybe he went to take a dump?
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Would the rule of too many Allstar games play a factor?
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Maybe he went to take a dump?
Do your job Chill!
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And he disappeared ?!??
You're fired Chill!
Mind boggling one second hes on the layup line the next he's not around for the tip-off announcements
How does a 6'9 kid just disappear ? :)
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Maybe he went to take a dump?
That would have to be a legendary dump cuz its already the second quarter
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And he disappeared ?!??
You're fired Chill!
Mind boggling one second hes on the layup line the next he's not around for the tip-off announcements
How does a 6'9 kid just disappear ? :)
Me and a couple kids I'm with are baffled. I'm telling you I checked a few texts before I knew it number 11 in green was gone
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Maybe he went to take a dump?
That would have to be a legendary dump cuz its already the second quarter
This thread can go in so many directions after the dump post lol
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Breaking news my player just spotted him he's back in the crowd . I'll find out more after the game on the reason from my other player who actually played on the team.
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Breaking news my player just spotted him he's back in the crowd . I'll find out more after the game on the reason from my other player who actually played on the team.
Dont lose him this time
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Chill, before you are arrested, I believe you should leave the gym. Ha!
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Just got a text that Obekpa is in China. chill has been stalking a tall security guard.
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And he disappeared ?!??
St Johns had their fair share of 6'9 guys disappear
You're fired Chill!
Mind boggling one second hes on the layup line the next he's not around for the tip-off announcements
How does a 6'9 kid just disappear ? :)
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Chill, before you are arrested, I believe you should leave the gym. Ha!
It sounds like pandemonium through the posts but I'm as cool as a cucumber just taking in the action. If anybody was here and just witnessed this disappearing act I'm sure I would have been reading about it as well
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The stalking term is getting a little out of hand. Not my style to fire back, I'm here to discuss stj hoops lets chill out with the extra notions.
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The trip to Oregon was planned before his visit to SJU. Does he and his handler have an obligation to go through with it? Would they want to insult the big guy out there? If Obekpa was swayed towards the redmen I doubt the 3000 mile trip to Oregon will impact him. Oregon has to overcome the distance factor and climb over two or three other schools.
He was qouted as being very impressed with DePaul and most hoop recruiting writers are projecting Cincy. Obekpa and his handler were pretty quiet about SJU and about the recent visit. Maybe they are acting like the poker player holding a full deck - why show your cards and ruin the suspense. Probably wishful thinking on my part. I'm guessing that Lavin was able to show Obekpa how well he fits into this team in terms of playing ball and off the court as well.
If he is still undecided, at least he's spending a lot of his recent time in the area. That factor helps.
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The trip to Oregon was planned before his visit to SJU. Does he and his handler have an obligation to go through with it? Would they want to insult the big guy out there? If Obekpa was swayed towards the redmen I doubt the 3000 mile trip to Oregon will impact him. Oregon has to overcome the distance factor and climb over two or three other schools.
He was qouted as being very impressed with DePaul and most hoop recruiting writers are projecting Cincy. Obekpa and his handler were pretty quiet about SJU and about the recent visit. Maybe they are acting like the poker player holding a full deck - why show your cards and ruin the suspense. Probably wishful thinking on my part. I'm guessing that Lavin was able to show Obekpa how well he fits into this team in terms of playing ball and off the court as well.
If he is still undecided, at least he's spending a lot of his recent time in the area. That factor helps.
Where do you want him to spend time? He's still in school
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The trip to Oregon was planned before his visit to SJU. Does he and his handler have an obligation to go through with it? Would they want to insult the big guy out there? If Obekpa was swayed towards the redmen I doubt the 3000 mile trip to Oregon will impact him. Oregon has to overcome the distance factor and climb over two or three other schools.
He was qouted as being very impressed with DePaul and most hoop recruiting writers are projecting Cincy. Obekpa and his handler were pretty quiet about SJU and about the recent visit. Maybe they are acting like the poker player holding a full deck - why show your cards and ruin the suspense. Probably wishful thinking on my part. I'm guessing that Lavin was able to show Obekpa how well he fits into this team in terms of playing ball and off the court as well.
If he is still undecided, at least he's spending a lot of his recent time in the area. That factor helps.
Where do you want him to spend time? He's still in school
+1
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Obekpa, according to the Post, was held out of Wheelchair tourney last night because he failed to visit Roosevelt Island Hospital as required. He apparently visited facility closer to school in Suffolk County.
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The stalking term is getting a little out of hand. Not my style to fire back, I'm here to discuss stj hoops lets chill out with the extra notions.
No offense intended. Definitely appreciate the info you provide.
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The stalking term is getting a little out of hand. Not my style to fire back, I'm here to discuss stj hoops lets chill out with the extra notions.
No offense intended. Definitely appreciate the info you provide.
Ditto ChilleB. Sorry my sense of humor was over the top man!
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Don't sweat it guys, the post is correct. The queens site official had prematurely gave obekpa a uniform without discussing it with the event administration. It was the Brooklyn coach who brought it to thier attention and was complaining about obekpa being allowed to play. So instead of brooklyn losing by 40 they lost by 20.
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Don't sweat it guys, the post is correct. The queens site official had prematurely gave obekpa a uniform without discussing it with the event administration. It was the Brooklyn coach who brought it to thier attention and was complaining about obekpa being allowed to play. So instead of brooklyn losing by 40 they lost by 20.
Chilleb, Did you see Galan's game.
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Don't sweat it guys, the post is correct. The queens site official had prematurely gave obekpa a uniform without discussing it with the event administration. It was the Brooklyn coach who brought it to thier attention and was complaining about obekpa being allowed to play. So instead of brooklyn losing by 40 they lost by 20.
Chilleb, Did you see Galan's game.
Just the one from the other night when they lost to Brooklyn and okoro had a good game. He looked good think he had 1 t.o all game.
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There is all star games.
And then there is the Wheelchair Classic.
The Wheelchair Classic is sacred.
Glad they made that call on Chris O. Cause nobody gets to play 'til they visit Goldwater. You dont walk out the same person. You just dont.
God bless Hank Carter, a man I have and will always look up to.
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There is all star games.
And then there is the Wheelchair Classic.
The Wheelchair Classic is sacred.
Glad they made that call on Chris O. Cause nobody gets to play 'til they visit Goldwater. You dont walk out the same person. You just dont.
God bless Hank Carter, a man I have and will always look up to.
+100 Hank is one in a million!
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I just read Calhoun is from Brooklyn we were robbed at the wheel chair classic
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The trip to Oregon was planned before his visit to SJU. Does he and his handler have an obligation to go through with it? Would they want to insult the big guy out there? If Obekpa was swayed towards the redmen I doubt the 3000 mile trip to Oregon will impact him. Oregon has to overcome the distance factor and climb over two or three other schools.
He was qouted as being very impressed with DePaul and most hoop recruiting writers are projecting Cincy. Obekpa and his handler were pretty quiet about SJU and about the recent visit. Maybe they are acting like the poker player holding a full deck - why show your cards and ruin the suspense. Probably wishful thinking on my part. I'm guessing that Lavin was able to show Obekpa how well he fits into this team in terms of playing ball and off the court as well.
If he is still undecided, at least he's spending a lot of his recent time in the area. That factor helps.
Where do you want him to spend time? He's still in school
Moose, never said he has a choice about it. Just stating it helps. Johnny players playing ball with him after school?
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The trip to Oregon was planned before his visit to SJU. Does he and his handler have an obligation to go through with it? Would they want to insult the big guy out there? If Obekpa was swayed towards the redmen I doubt the 3000 mile trip to Oregon will impact him. Oregon has to overcome the distance factor and climb over two or three other schools.
He was qouted as being very impressed with DePaul and most hoop recruiting writers are projecting Cincy. Obekpa and his handler were pretty quiet about SJU and about the recent visit. Maybe they are acting like the poker player holding a full deck - why show your cards and ruin the suspense. Probably wishful thinking on my part. I'm guessing that Lavin was able to show Obekpa how well he fits into this team in terms of playing ball and off the court as well.
If he is still undecided, at least he's spending a lot of his recent time in the area. That factor helps.
Where do you want him to spend time? He's still in school
Moose, never said he has a choice about it. Just stating it helps. Johnny players playing ball with him after school?
I'm still not following honestly. He's still in HS. I mean he can't go many places outside of weekends.
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If he was in a high school relatively close to the UC campus it would give them an edge. If I was a bearcat fan waiting for the decision I would not be too comfortable knowing he's in highschool in SJU territory with SJU competing for him.
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If he was in a high school relatively close to the UC campus it would give them an edge. If I was a bearcat fan waiting for the decision I would not be too comfortable knowing he's in highschool in SJU territory with SJU competing for him.
Ah gotcha
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DePaul also hot on the Obekpa trail:
http://collegebasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/15/depaul-making-push-on-recruiting-trail-for-our-savior-shotblocker-chris-obekpa/ (http://collegebasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/15/depaul-making-push-on-recruiting-trail-for-our-savior-shotblocker-chris-obekpa/)
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If he was in a high school relatively close to the UC campus it would give them an edge. If I was a bearcat fan waiting for the decision I would not be too comfortable knowing he's in highschool in SJU territory with SJU competing for him.
Exactly. He's in our backyard. Long Island is suburb of NYC. Then again, every other pissant city in this country is a suburb as well.
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heres some recent obekpa news courtesy of Shane rector
http://youtu.be/TrQfJL7KRes (http://youtu.be/TrQfJL7KRes)
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Obekpa going to Vegas this weekend. Is there a tourney there or something else?
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Obekpa going to Vegas this weekend. Is there a tourney there or something else?
Thought so but at this point isn't he past the age limits?
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Obekpa going to Vegas this weekend. Is there a tourney there or something else?
Thought so but at this point isn't he past the age limits?
Obekpa going to Vegas this weekend. Is there a tourney there or something else?
Thought so but at this point isn't he past the age limits?
Don't know. Don't want to start conspiracy discussion but he tweeted;
“@christopherewao: Vegas for d weekend... Major moves...”
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Maybe he's visiting UNLV instead of Oregon?
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Lots going on in Vegas.. Adidas and Dino's are putting on a tourney this weekend.
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Maybe he's visiting UNLV instead of Oregon?
Have not seen UNLV listed with him, but who knows? This kid's recruitment has been very under the radar IMO.
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Lots going on in Vegas.. Adidas and Dino's are putting on a tourney this weekend.
I believe you are correct. I think he is going to Trigonis' Tourney.
BTW-This is probably the reason the Oregon visit is not over the weekend but Monday thru Wednesday.
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“@ebosshoops: New Heights is spanking the Louisville Magic right now. Mick Cronin on hand watching Obekpa.”
In Vegas
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“@ebosshoops: New Heights is spanking the Louisville Magic right now. Mick Cronin on hand watching Obekpa.”
In Vegas
I'm a little concerned this weekend with all the visitors we have, and hearing nobody was going to Hoop Group in Pitt, do we have anyone in Vegas or Minnesota at Dinos and Nike EYBL?
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“@ebosshoops: New Heights is spanking the Louisville Magic right now. Mick Cronin on hand watching Obekpa.”
In Vegas
I'm a little concerned this weekend with all the visitors we have, and hearing nobody was going to Hoop Group in Pitt, do we have anyone in Vegas or Minnesota at Dinos and Nike EYBL?
Share your concern Moose. This has been a very peculiar recruiting period for us. You'd think Chiles and/or Rico would be covering some areas. We are either in great shape or scrambling. We'll see shortly. You and I have felt for some time Obekpa was not in the cards. Tonight's appearance by Cronin & SJU absence further supports that IMO. Still feel great about Sanchez, but the Chandler wild card is one where I don't have a clue. Oh well!
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“@ebosshoops: New Heights is spanking the Louisville Magic right now. Mick Cronin on hand watching Obekpa.”
In Vegas
I'm a little concerned this weekend with all the visitors we have, and hearing nobody was going to Hoop Group in Pitt, do we have anyone in Vegas or Minnesota at Dinos and Nike EYBL?
Im becoming very concerned, just wish I knew why we aren't at these big time events. Still have faith though, just gotta see how it ends up
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“@ebosshoops: Mick Cronin is on Chris Obekpa watch again. 2014 PG Tyree Griffin of New Orleans elite isn't big but he is tough.”
Cronin has already recruited another big and is relentless in trying to get Chris.
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It looks like Obekpa is targetting May 5th, Derby day, to make a decision.
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It looks like Obekpa is targetting May 5th, Derby day, to make a decision.
I'll take Gemologist over Obekpa.
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Heard he is no longer visiting Oregon and cut them from his list, not sure if its true though
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Heard he is no longer visiting Oregon and cut them from his list, not sure if its true though
This basically means he knows where he is going.
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Tiznow Wrote: I'll take Gemologist over Obekpa
How about Bodemeister?
Over Obekpa?
Over Gemologist?
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“@AdamZagoria: I'm told Chris Obekpa is rescheduling his visit to Oregon, but is not cancelling it.”
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I feel good about our chances with Chris. And no, Moose, not the "KA good feeling" I had last year! Particularly, if we are in the final two for Chris' services.
A recruit tends to have several criteria in selecting a school. These selection items may range from the HC, his staff, the facilities, tradition, the makeup of the rest of the team, etc. However, I believe the HC tends to be the major reason for most recruits' final selections. And that also means the character of the HC. I would stack up Coach Lavin's character with any other coach. He definitely is not the type to be one DUI or fooling around stuff away from being let go, as we have seen happened to a number of coaches in various college sports over the past few years regardless of their past accomplishments.
I believe most recruits want their HCs to be there for the full run of their college careers. Chris, look at this factor among the others when making your decision in the next few weeks.
By the way, I believe you would look great in red at MSG.
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I feel good about our chances with Chris. And no, Moose, not the "KA good feeling" I had last year! Particularly, if we are in the final two for Chris' services.
A recruit tends to have several criteria in selecting a school. These selection items may range from the HC, his staff, the facilities, tradition, the makeup of the rest of the team, etc. However, I believe the HC tends to be the major reason for most recruits' final selections. And that also means the character of the HC. I would stack up Coach Lavin's character with any other coach. He definitely is not the type to be one DUI or fooling around stuff away from being let go, as we have seen happened to a number of coaches in various college sports over the past few years regardless of their past accomplishments.
I believe most recruits want their HCs to be there for the full run of their college careers. Chris, look at this factor among the others when making your decision in the next few weeks.
By the way, I believe you would look great in red at MSG.
Sorry, not in the cards. Cinci!!!
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I feel good about our chances with Chris. And no, Moose, not the "KA good feeling" I had last year! Particularly, if we are in the final two for Chris' services.
A recruit tends to have several criteria in selecting a school. These selection items may range from the HC, his staff, the facilities, tradition, the makeup of the rest of the team, etc. However, I believe the HC tends to be the major reason for most recruits' final selections. And that also means the character of the HC. I would stack up Coach Lavin's character with any other coach. He definitely is not the type to be one DUI or fooling around stuff away from being let go, as we have seen happened to a number of coaches in various college sports over the past few years regardless of their past accomplishments.
I believe most recruits want their HCs to be there for the full run of their college careers. Chris, look at this factor among the others when making your decision in the next few weeks.
By the way, I believe you would look great in red at MSG.
Wish I shared your optimism but everything I'm hearing points to him wearing a different shade of red
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I feel good about our chances with Chris. And no, Moose, not the "KA good feeling" I had last year! Particularly, if we are in the final two for Chris' services.
A recruit tends to have several criteria in selecting a school. These selection items may range from the HC, his staff, the facilities, tradition, the makeup of the rest of the team, etc. However, I believe the HC tends to be the major reason for most recruits' final selections. And that also means the character of the HC. I would stack up Coach Lavin's character with any other coach. He definitely is not the type to be one DUI or fooling around stuff away from being let go, as we have seen happened to a number of coaches in various college sports over the past few years regardless of their past accomplishments.
I believe most recruits want their HCs to be there for the full run of their college careers. Chris, look at this factor among the others when making your decision in the next few weeks.
By the way, I believe you would look great in red at MSG.
Wish I shared your optimism but everything I'm hearing points to him wearing a different shade of red
Moose, unrelated to Chris, any idea what the focus on the two week Euro trip was about? Back up plan, 2013 or a surprise?
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If he goes to Cinci how much will they have pay him?
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I feel good about our chances with Chris. And no, Moose, not the "KA good feeling" I had last year! Particularly, if we are in the final two for Chris' services.
A recruit tends to have several criteria in selecting a school. These selection items may range from the HC, his staff, the facilities, tradition, the makeup of the rest of the team, etc. However, I believe the HC tends to be the major reason for most recruits' final selections. And that also means the character of the HC. I would stack up Coach Lavin's character with any other coach. He definitely is not the type to be one DUI or fooling around stuff away from being let go, as we have seen happened to a number of coaches in various college sports over the past few years regardless of their past accomplishments.
I believe most recruits want their HCs to be there for the full run of their college careers. Chris, look at this factor among the others when making your decision in the next few weeks.
By the way, I believe you would look great in red at MSG.
Wish I shared your optimism but everything I'm hearing points to him wearing a different shade of red
Moose, unrelated to Chris, any idea what the focus on the two week Euro trip was about? Back up plan, 2013 or a surprise?
I'm not trying to stir the pot - because I have no problem if it was - but what are the odds it was half a vacation, covering as a recruiting trip.
Dave mentioned there was nobody at that academy we would want this year, so maybe coach went to show his face, shake hands, and lay the seeds for prospects down the road. And in the process enjoy a little r&r with Mary?
I don't think it needs to be a conspiracy to say our coach may have taken a vacation after the Final 4. When else can he..
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I feel good about our chances with Chris. And no, Moose, not the "KA good feeling" I had last year! Particularly, if we are in the final two for Chris' services.
A recruit tends to have several criteria in selecting a school. These selection items may range from the HC, his staff, the facilities, tradition, the makeup of the rest of the team, etc. However, I believe the HC tends to be the major reason for most recruits' final selections. And that also means the character of the HC. I would stack up Coach Lavin's character with any other coach. He definitely is not the type to be one DUI or fooling around stuff away from being let go, as we have seen happened to a number of coaches in various college sports over the past few years regardless of their past accomplishments.
I believe most recruits want their HCs to be there for the full run of their college careers. Chris, look at this factor among the others when making your decision in the next few weeks.
By the way, I believe you would look great in red at MSG.
Wish I shared your optimism but everything I'm hearing points to him wearing a different shade of red
Moose, unrelated to Chris, any idea what the focus on the two week Euro trip was about? Back up plan, 2013 or a surprise?
I'm no trying to stir the pot - because I have no problem if it was - but what are the odds it was half a vacation, covering as a recruiting trip.
Dave mentioned there was nobody at that academy we would want this year, so maybe coach went to show his face, shake hands, and lay the seeds for prospects down the road. And in process enjoy a little r&r with Mary?
I don't think it needs to be a conspiracy to say our coach may have taken a vacation after the Final 4. When else can he..
Haven't heard for certain but I think your along the right track. Staff felt very confident with the Monroe boys for awhile. Same with Chandler. Only so much you can do with others if your just not getting that warm and fuzzy feeling. I know some people here will complain about that but I'm thinking along your lines as well.
As for Paultz I haven't really heard what the recruiting reason was. My opinion and my opinion only was it was related to the US team there. NOT Canaris. It says a lot when he can tell a recruit he traveled halfway across the world to see them.
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I feel good about our chances with Chris. And no, Moose, not the "KA good feeling" I had last year! Particularly, if we are in the final two for Chris' services.
A recruit tends to have several criteria in selecting a school. These selection items may range from the HC, his staff, the facilities, tradition, the makeup of the rest of the team, etc. However, I believe the HC tends to be the major reason for most recruits' final selections. And that also means the character of the HC. I would stack up Coach Lavin's character with any other coach. He definitely is not the type to be one DUI or fooling around stuff away from being let go, as we have seen happened to a number of coaches in various college sports over the past few years regardless of their past accomplishments.
I believe most recruits want their HCs to be there for the full run of their college careers. Chris, look at this factor among the others when making your decision in the next few weeks.
By the way, I believe you would look great in red at MSG.
Wish I shared your optimism but everything I'm hearing points to him wearing a different shade of red
Moose, unrelated to Chris, any idea what the focus on the two week Euro trip was about? Back up plan, 2013 or a surprise?
I'm no trying to stir the pot - because I have no problem if it was - but what are the odds it was half a vacation, covering as a recruiting trip.
Dave mentioned there was nobody at that academy we would want this year, so maybe coach went to show his face, shake hands, and lay the seeds for prospects down the road. And in process enjoy a little r&r with Mary?
I don't think it needs to be a conspiracy to say our coach may have taken a vacation after the Final 4. When else can he..
Haven't heard for certain but I think your along the right track. Staff felt very confident with the Monroe boys for awhile. Same with Chandler. Only so much you can do with others if your just not getting that warm and fuzzy feeling. I know some people here will complain about that but I'm thinking along your lines as well.
As for Paultz I haven't really heard what the recruiting reason was. My opinion and my opinion only was it was related to the US team there. NOT Canaris. It says a lot when he can tell a recruit he traveled halfway across the world to see them.
Thanks Moose, makes sense considering Jermaine L was there. Goodman too, although I just don't feel we are serious w him.
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Zapper, I admit I'm biased on my preference for Gemologist. And he looked very good after galloping out after the Wood.
As for Obekpa playing for the right shade of red, I am keeping hope. We already had one surprise. This kid still might make the right decision. Cronin is not easy to beat, but has not sealed this one yet.
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I feel good about our chances with Chris. And no, Moose, not the "KA good feeling" I had last year! Particularly, if we are in the final two for Chris' services.
A recruit tends to have several criteria in selecting a school. These selection items may range from the HC, his staff, the facilities, tradition, the makeup of the rest of the team, etc. However, I believe the HC tends to be the major reason for most recruits' final selections. And that also means the character of the HC. I would stack up Coach Lavin's character with any other coach. He definitely is not the type to be one DUI or fooling around stuff away from being let go, as we have seen happened to a number of coaches in various college sports over the past few years regardless of their past accomplishments.
I believe most recruits want their HCs to be there for the full run of their college careers. Chris, look at this factor among the others when making your decision in the next few weeks.
By the way, I believe you would look great in red at MSG.
Wish I shared your optimism but everything I'm hearing points to him wearing a different shade of red
Moose, unrelated to Chris, any idea what the focus on the two week Euro trip was about? Back up plan, 2013 or a surprise?
Definitely some vacation mixed in, but I'm sure Lav cleared that with the folks at STJ first. It would have been pretty negligent to not have someone checking out the overseas talent while also getting in good with the US recruits that were there. It was a great recruiting opportunity to combine both.
I think Lav knew (better than anyone here) where he stood with the recruits, and felt good enough to take a few days. Can't argue that after we just landed two guys today and have several others vying for one or two spots.
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http://youtu.be/3y5jm4EDV44 (http://youtu.be/3y5jm4EDV44)
latest is8 game with chris and felix
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http://youtu.be/3y5jm4EDV44 (http://youtu.be/3y5jm4EDV44)
latest is8 game with chris and felix
just finished watching the game my self. they lost the game felix had 20 and chris looked really raw. hudson catholic has themselves a pair of studs the kid cameron and young are terrific
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http://youtu.be/3y5jm4EDV44 (http://youtu.be/3y5jm4EDV44)
latest is8 game with chris and felix
just finished watching the game my self. they lost the game felix had 20 and chris looked really raw. hudson catholic has themselves a pair of studs the kid cameron and young are terrific
Reggie Cameron is fantastic .
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http://youtu.be/3y5jm4EDV44 (http://youtu.be/3y5jm4EDV44)
latest is8 game with chris and felix
just finished watching the game my self. they lost the game felix had 20 and chris looked really raw. hudson catholic has themselves a pair of studs the kid cameron and young are terrific
Reggie Cameron is fantastic .
eh
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http://youtu.be/3y5jm4EDV44 (http://youtu.be/3y5jm4EDV44)
latest is8 game with chris and felix
just finished watching the game my self. they lost the game felix had 20 and chris looked really raw. hudson catholic has themselves a pair of studs the kid cameron and young are terrific
Reggie Cameron is fantastic .
eh
Loved him when I saw him. Like him better than Young.. I did only see him once though.. But his length and shooting were on point to me.
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Obekpa is sending everything back and changing so many shots in that video. There is nothing I love better in basketball than a shot blocker! who was the last good one we had? Robert Werdann? Let's sign him up Lavin ASAP!
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Obekpa is sending everything back and changing so many shots in that video. There is nothing I love better in basketball than a shot blocker! who was the last good one we had? Robert Werdann? Let's sign him up Lavin ASAP!
Can't sign up someone who does not want to be here.
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Tiznow wrote:
Zapper, I admit I'm biased on my preference for Gemologist. And he looked very good after galloping out after the Wood.
As for Obekpa playing for the right shade of red, I am keeping hope. We already had one surprise. This kid still might make the right decision. Cronin is not easy to beat, but has not sealed this one yet.
Hey Tiznow,
I too am keeping my fingers crossed for Obekpa. Having an off the charts shot blocker, like him, will allow us to take risks on defense and to let our athletes go full throttle with pressure and still have the rim protected behind them.
On a separate note I thought you might be interested in this article comparing Gemologist with his incredible sire Tiznow. The link is below:
http://www.thoroughbredtimes.com/racing-news/2012/04/25/walden-sees-plenty-of-tiznow-in-derby-contender-gemologist.aspx (http://www.thoroughbredtimes.com/racing-news/2012/04/25/walden-sees-plenty-of-tiznow-in-derby-contender-gemologist.aspx)
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Zapper, those are great quotes from Walden. Thanks. By the way, congratulations on your election to the HOF.
As for Obekpa, I think he would be the best fit for this team. It will be a shame if he passes on a chance to be part of what Lavin is building here.
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Is it unusual for a senior like Chris to be playing in these events?
“@hoopsconnection: Good big man match-up at the Real Deal... Chris Obekpa (New Heights) vs Zena Edosomwan (Belmont)...Obekpa '12 is LONG! BT Shotblocker”
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Is it unusual for a senior like Chris to be playing in these events?
“@hoopsconnection: Good big man match-up at the Real Deal... Chris Obekpa (New Heights) vs Zena Edosomwan (Belmont)...Obekpa '12 is LONG! BT Shotblocker”
Very
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Is it unusual for a senior like Chris to be playing in these events?
“@hoopsconnection: Good big man match-up at the Real Deal... Chris Obekpa (New Heights) vs Zena Edosomwan (Belmont)...Obekpa '12 is LONG! BT Shotblocker”
Very
Guess he could not pass up a chance to see the elegance of Arkansas!
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Was there ever any indication that Chris might not qualify?
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Was there ever any indication that Chris might not qualify?
Possible but he took officials so it means he had certain elements ready.
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Was there ever any indication that Chris might not qualify?
Possible but he took officials so it means he had certain elements ready.
There was talk about Obekpa having qualification issues from some people I spoke to during the season. I had assumed they'd have been remedied, but maybe they still aren't cleared up? OSNA is horrible about getting kids through to qualification status.
I'll tell you though, if he doesn't qualify it makes us signing Sanchez that much more pivotal. Hopefully Nolan and possibly Chandler to follow.
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Committing to Navy? Boo, don't kill me man, couldn't resist!
“@christopherewao: We cannot direct the wind but we can adjust the sails.”
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Zags reporting he is still going to take the Oregon visit. Is Cincinnati really a lock, or is this kid just undecided?
http://www.zagsblog.com/2012/04/29/obekpa-still-planning-oregon-visit/ (http://www.zagsblog.com/2012/04/29/obekpa-still-planning-oregon-visit/)
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Is Chris taking his time or what! Thankfully, we have solid options IMO.
“@AdamZagoria: Chris Obekpa is still planning a visit to Oregon before he makes his college choice. "He's gonna reschedule the ... http://t.co/YhanJJq4 (http://t.co/YhanJJq4)”
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Chris sure has been a recruiting mystery, well maybe, not that mysterious.
If he wanted St. John's, he probably would have committed already knowing the "tall" players Coach Lavin was recruiting. I know, nothing is definite yet, but the sand in the recruiting hour glass is running out.
Too bad, I would have loved to see him swat a mess of shots down over the next few years.
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Chris sure has been a recruiting mystery, well maybe, not that mysterious.
If he wanted St. John's, he probably would have committed already knowing the "tall" players Coach Lavin was recruiting. I know, nothing is definite yet, but the sand in the recruiting hour glass is running out.
Too bad, I would have loved to see him swat a mess of shots down over the next few years.
God knows we tried. I agree he would be a plus defensively. Don't know who influences him the most, but I wonder if New Heights affiliation was not to our advantage. All in all, we are positioned for great things with imminent addition of a big or two IMO.
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@JonRothstein
From a pure shot blocking perspective, Chris Obekpa isn't that far behind Nerlens Noel. Lacks the other things Noel possesses though.
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Theo noted sub par competition, but anyway,
“@TheoRabinowitz: Felix finishes with 23 pts and Obekpa with 13 and probably at least 10 blocks. #stjbb”
Think we are going to like Felix!
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Chris sure has been a recruiting mystery, well maybe, not that mysterious.
If he wanted St. John's, he probably would have committed already knowing the "tall" players Coach Lavin was recruiting. I know, nothing is definite yet, but the sand in the recruiting hour glass is running out.
Too bad, I would have loved to see him swat a mess of shots down over the next few years.
Yeah, but if he loved Cincy as much as rumored, why hasn't he committed there yet either?
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Chris sure has been a recruiting mystery, well maybe, not that mysterious.
If he wanted St. John's, he probably would have committed already knowing the "tall" players Coach Lavin was recruiting. I know, nothing is definite yet, but the sand in the recruiting hour glass is running out.
Too bad, I would have loved to see him swat a mess of shots down over the next few years.
Yeah, but if he loved Cincy as much as rumored, why hasn't he committed there yet either?
I am with you. I hope Coach pulls a "Nolan" and signs Chris O. to stay in town and play with Felix and the rest of our guys. Chris' blocks could be nightly highlights on local TV.
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Chris sure has been a recruiting mystery, well maybe, not that mysterious.
If he wanted St. John's, he probably would have committed already knowing the "tall" players Coach Lavin was recruiting. I know, nothing is definite yet, but the sand in the recruiting hour glass is running out.
Too bad, I would have loved to see him swat a mess of shots down over the next few years.
Yeah, but if he loved Cincy as much as rumored, why hasn't he committed there yet either?
I am with you. I hope Coach pulls a "Nolan" and signs Chris O. to stay in town and play with Felix and the rest of our guys. Chris' blocks could be nightly highlights on local TV.
I think Obekpa fits out style perfectly. Maybe it's a longshot, I don't know, but recently he tweeted about missing home and his buddy Felix is at SJU. I'm pretty sure Lavs won't let him go without a fight even though he's been rumored as a Cincy lean.
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Chris sure has been a recruiting mystery, well maybe, not that mysterious.
If he wanted St. John's, he probably would have committed already knowing the "tall" players Coach Lavin was recruiting. I know, nothing is definite yet, but the sand in the recruiting hour glass is running out.
Too bad, I would have loved to see him swat a mess of shots down over the next few years.
Yeah, but if he loved Cincy as much as rumored, why hasn't he committed there yet either?
Maybe he's looking for something else that Oregon offers but Cincy so far hasn't provided.
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Chris sure has been a recruiting mystery, well maybe, not that mysterious.
If he wanted St. John's, he probably would have committed already knowing the "tall" players Coach Lavin was recruiting. I know, nothing is definite yet, but the sand in the recruiting hour glass is running out.
Too bad, I would have loved to see him swat a mess of shots down over the next few years.
Yeah, but if he loved Cincy as much as rumored, why hasn't he committed there yet either?
Maybe he's looking for something else that Oregon offers but Cincy so far hasn't provided.
Maybe he never goes to Oregon.
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Chris sure has been a recruiting mystery, well maybe, not that mysterious.
If he wanted St. John's, he probably would have committed already knowing the "tall" players Coach Lavin was recruiting. I know, nothing is definite yet, but the sand in the recruiting hour glass is running out.
Too bad, I would have loved to see him swat a mess of shots down over the next few years.
Yeah, but if he loved Cincy as much as rumored, why hasn't he committed there yet either?
Maybe he's looking for something else that Oregon offers but Cincy so far hasn't provided.
Maybe he never goes to Oregon.
Maybe he's waiting for interest from Kentucky like every single other kid these days.
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I'd say whether or not he joins us, the supporting cast now ready to receive him provides a perfect fit. He can obviously see that. He has had success with his friend Balamou in the past, and good reason to continue. And he no doubt has supporters in our area, unlike Cincy and Oregon, so with us he can count on that support network for basketball and for the challenges of school and being away from home. Final anaylsis, with pros and cons list, SJU is absolutely over the top perfect fit.
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I know Providence fans are feeling good again about Obepka since he played with Kris Dunn all weekend.
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I know Providence fans are feeling good again about Obepka since he played with Kris Dunn all weekend.
If its not us it's cincy, he plays with Felix everyday of his life yet we know it's not looking good. Providence fans...
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I know Providence fans are feeling good again about Obepka since he played with Kris Dunn all weekend.
If its not us it's cincy, he plays with Felix everyday of his life yet we know it's not looking good. Providence fans...
Give Prov fans credit. At this point there are looking for any inch of a good sign. Until the rug gets pulled out from under them again
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I know Providence fans are feeling good again about Obepka since he played with Kris Dunn all weekend.
If its not us it's cincy, he plays with Felix everyday of his life yet we know it's not looking good. Providence fans...
Give Prov fans credit. At this point there are looking for any inch of a good sign. Until the rug gets pulled out from under them again
There just plain old greedy, they have a top 7 recruiting class already
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I know Providence fans are feeling good again about Obepka since he played with Kris Dunn all weekend.
If its not us it's cincy, he plays with Felix everyday of his life yet we know it's not looking good. Providence fans...
Give Prov fans credit. At this point there are looking for any inch of a good sign. Until the rug gets pulled out from under them again
There just plain old greedy, they have a top 7 recruiting class already
If Ledo pans out.
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Chris sure has been a recruiting mystery, well maybe, not that mysterious.
If he wanted St. John's, he probably would have committed already knowing the "tall" players Coach Lavin was recruiting. I know, nothing is definite yet, but the sand in the recruiting hour glass is running out.
Too bad, I would have loved to see him swat a mess of shots down over the next few years.
Yeah, but if he loved Cincy as much as rumored, why hasn't he committed there yet either?
Maybe he's looking for something else that Oregon offers but Cincy so far hasn't provided.
Maybe he never goes to Oregon.
Maybe he's waiting for interest from Kentucky like every single other kid these days.
Not Kentucky, but Oregon in final two for Anthony Bennett, a power forward. If AB goes there, leaves us and Cincinnati. Cinci still leads IMO, but in "Bizarro World", who knows!
“@GilMuako: F Anthony Bennett has dropped Kentucky off his list per @EvanDanielscout will decide between Oregon and UNLV”
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Chris sure has been a recruiting mystery, well maybe, not that mysterious.
If he wanted St. John's, he probably would have committed already knowing the "tall" players Coach Lavin was recruiting. I know, nothing is definite yet, but the sand in the recruiting hour glass is running out.
Too bad, I would have loved to see him swat a mess of shots down over the next few years.
Yeah, but if he loved Cincy as much as rumored, why hasn't he committed there yet either?
Maybe he's looking for something else that Oregon offers but Cincy so far hasn't provided.
Maybe he never goes to Oregon.
Maybe he's waiting for interest from Kentucky like every single other kid these days.
Not Kentucky, but Oregon in final two for Anthony Bennett, a power forward. If AB goes there, leaves us and Cincinnati. Cinci still leads IMO, but in "Bizarro World", who knows!
“@GilMuako: F Anthony Bennett has dropped Kentucky off his list per @EvanDanielscout will decide between Oregon and UNLV”
he must seriously like the weed to consider Oregon over UK. Forgive my speculation. Just figured I'd "light"en it up a bit since the payola comments usually surface with these reports - lol
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I know Providence fans are feeling good again about Obepka since he played with Kris Dunn all weekend.
If its not us it's cincy, he plays with Felix everyday of his life yet we know it's not looking good. Providence fans...
Give Prov fans credit. At this point there are looking for any inch of a good sign. Until the rug gets pulled out from under them again
There just plain old greedy, they have a top 7 recruiting class already
Ledo will be a diaster if he ever steps foot on the court for them.
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I know Providence fans are feeling good again about Obepka since he played with Kris Dunn all weekend.
If its not us it's cincy, he plays with Felix everyday of his life yet we know it's not looking good. Providence fans...
Give Prov fans credit. At this point there are looking for any inch of a good sign. Until the rug gets pulled out from under them again
There just plain old greedy, they have a top 7 recruiting class already
Ledo will be a diaster if he ever steps foot on the court for them.
+1
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I know Providence fans are feeling good again about Obepka since he played with Kris Dunn all weekend.
If its not us it's cincy, he plays with Felix everyday of his life yet we know it's not looking good. Providence fans...
Give Prov fans credit. At this point there are looking for any inch of a good sign. Until the rug gets pulled out from under them again
There just plain old greedy, they have a top 7 recruiting class already
Ledo will be a diaster if he ever steps foot on the court for them.
Why do you say if? Grades?
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I know Providence fans are feeling good again about Obepka since he played with Kris Dunn all weekend.
If its not us it's cincy, he plays with Felix everyday of his life yet we know it's not looking good. Providence fans...
Give Prov fans credit. At this point there are looking for any inch of a good sign. Until the rug gets pulled out from under them again
There just plain old greedy, they have a top 7 recruiting class already
Ledo will be a diaster if he ever steps foot on the court for them.
Why do you say if? Grades?
He is not a team oriented player. From the many times I've seen him play he is selfish and does more pissing others off than good.
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I know Providence fans are feeling good again about Obepka since he played with Kris Dunn all weekend.
If its not us it's cincy, he plays with Felix everyday of his life yet we know it's not looking good. Providence fans...
Give Prov fans credit. At this point there are looking for any inch of a good sign. Until the rug gets pulled out from under them again
There just plain old greedy, they have a top 7 recruiting class already
Ledo will be a diaster if he ever steps foot on the court for them.
Why do you say if? Grades?
He is not a team oriented player. From the many times I've seen him play he is selfish and does more pissing others off than good.
Ledo may be reason #1 why Jakarr did not go to PC
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Sounds like Melo. At the college level, however, he wasn't so greedy.
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Back to Obekpa. Sounds like the UC fans are getting restless. From the UC Rivals site:
In ten days the Spring Signing Period will pass too. Most likely Obekpa will not sign by the May 16th deadline.
Christopher has every right to decide on his own time. It is his life that will be impacted the most by the decision.
But extracting any information from the Obekpa Camp gets to be exhausting.
It is known that Cincinnati is very involved.
"He is very interested in Providence,' said Our Savior New American High School Assistant Coach Eric Jaklitsch. "He has been talking with them. And he has been talking with DePaul."
DePaul, Cincinnati, and St. John's have hosted the 6'8" senior for official visits. Schools including UConn and Providence have had the young man on campus unofficially.
The wildcard in the process becomes Oregon.
Coach Jaklitsch and Christopher wanted to take an official visit to Oregon April 22nd, but it did not materialize. They still want the trip to take place.
"Hopefully," said Obekpa. "They are still trying to fix it."
Oregon's program has the unique link to NIKE, giving them a branding edge over every school in the nation.
"He is visiting Oregon," affirmed Coach Jaklitsch. "The dates didn't work out."
Since the Oregon trip keeps getting postponed an early May signing appears increasingly unlikely.
http://stjohns.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1362714 (http://stjohns.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1362714)
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Sounds like Melo. At the college level, however, he wasn't so greedy.
Stupid and lazy. Not Melo, but your previous comment.
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Does the fact that Anthony Bennett is down to Oregon and UNLV and has eliminated FLA and Kentucky affect the scholarship numbers?
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As I said in my post about Felix, I'll say upfront that the 2 games I saw Obekpa play in yesterday were blowouts so I would love to see him vs. better competition. Here's my take though:
First off, I think services that put him as 6'8" might be undercutting him a bit. Looked about 6'9"ish but his body is pretty developed. Not a twig by any means at all. Broad shoulders and you can tell his arms are developing.
In terms of his shot blocking ability, Obekpa's timing is second to nobody. He recorded double-digit blocks in both games. What makes it even more remarkable is: he's not 6'11 or 7' and also he doesn't have very good leaping ability. His timing is just unbelievable. As Jon Rothstein tweeted, in terms of pure shot-blocking he maybe on the same level as Nerlens Noel. Nerlens has at least an inch on Obekpa as well, I'd suspect. Chris is an absolutely unbelievable shot blocker.
Here was a first though: Obekpa is basically the opposite of an offensive cherry picker. During both games there were many times in which he cherry picked while his team was on offense. He would either be very slow getting back or would hang in the back court, waiting to run back and protect his basket.
In the first game, Chris didn't seem to run the floor hard at all. It was tough to tell whether he wasn't playing hard because of the competition he was facing or whether his motor was really bad. He played harder the second game although he certainly wasn't sprinting the floor most of the time. Again, this is why I want to see him vs. better comp. I suspect he has a better motor than what was shown because scouting report keep listing his motor as being one of his stronger attributes.
Whats interesting is that because of his AMAZING timing abilities, Chris will go pursue the block most times an offensive player is in his area. This leaves him vulnerable on the boards because he is often out of position if he doesn't get a rejection. He should've had more rebounds than he wound up with and I think his pursuit of blocks is part of the reason why. He also didn't seem to have great hands as he had a tough time bringing in some rebounds and passes.
Offensively, the kid needs a lot of work. His baskets pretty much came from put backs. One person inside the basketball industry that has seen him a bunch of times has said Obekpa has "DIII offensive skills". He certainly didn't show much yesterday.
If I had to compare Obekpa and say, Orlando Sanchez, I would say that Orlando certainly has a leg up on his in terms of offensive ability. Orlando also has great hands so he has that up on Obekpa as well it seems. However it is tough to ignore the fact that Obekpa is an INCREDIBLE pure shot blocker. I think he can be a VERY good player on the next level with the right guy to push him and develop him offensively.
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This delay has to be tough on UC.
He loved his visit to DePaul.
I still hope his time playing ball in Queens pulls him in the right direction.
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This delay has to be tough on UC.
He loved his visit to DePaul.
I still hope his time playing ball in Queens pulls him in the right direction.
Guy on the Rivals main board insists that Obekpa wants to go to UC but his "handlers" are insisting he go to a Nike school. UC is an Adidas school.
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Never in my wildest dreams did I ever consider that a student-athlete would choose a school based on Nike or Adidas. Can someone explain to me why this is a factor?
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Never in my wildest dreams did I ever consider that a student-athlete would choose a school based on Nike or Adidas. Can someone explain to me why this is a factor?
$tudent-athletes choo$e $chool$ ba$ed on $hoe companie$ for various legitimate reasons, none of which are related to under the table deals organized by their handler$.
In all seriousness, it may not always be totally illegitimate, but may have something to do with the sponsorship of an AAU program or grasroots team and them wanting to continue getting shoes/clothes/etc. but I have no idea if it is ever this "innocent".
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Never in my wildest dreams did I ever consider that a student-athlete would choose a school based on Nike or Adidas. Can someone explain to me why this is a factor?
$tudent-athletes choo$e $chool$ ba$ed on $hoe companie$ for various legitimate reasons, none of which are related to under the table deals organized by their handler$.
In all seriousness, it may not always be totally illegitimate, but may have something to do with the sponsorship of an AAU program or grasroots team and them wanting to continue getting shoes/clothes/etc. but I have no idea if it is ever this "innocent".
If I was a student I'd be looking for whatever school had an overseas campus in columbia with incentives with the girls the secret service got involved with
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Which makes sense why Oregon, the center of the kingdom for Nike, seems to be getting a visit. It's a tough situation. I don't want the kid if he doesn't want to be here though. We are a Nike school so have that in our corner. That said, I'm really hoping Chandler comes through as it would make it moot.
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Again, if Bennett goes to Oregon, don't see it as an option for Chris.
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I never cared if we were Nike or Adidas or Chuck Taylor until now! If Nike puts us in a position to land our recruits, go Nike!
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Nike owns chucks now lol they brought converse in 2003. but i get your point. Dam shame though
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This delay has to be tough on UC.
He loved his visit to DePaul.
I still hope his time playing ball in Queens pulls him in the right direction.
Guy on the Rivals main board insists that Obekpa wants to go to UC but his "handlers" are insisting he go to a Nike school. UC is an Adidas school.
This does make a lot of sense - it does seem to fit the situation here. The kid should be able to make his own decision.
With all this B$ it's easy to why half these kids transfer.
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Again, if Bennett goes to Oregon, don't see it as an option for Chris.
Guess Oregon out for Bennett.
“@AdamZagoria: .@findlayprep F Anthony Bennett is leaning "90 percent" toward UNLV over Oregon, source tells @SNYtv”
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This delay has to be tough on UC.
He loved his visit to DePaul.
I still hope his time playing ball in Queens pulls him in the right direction.
Guy on the Rivals main board insists that Obekpa wants to go to UC but his "handlers" are insisting he go to a Nike school. UC is an Adidas school.
This does make a lot of sense - it does seem to fit the situation here. The kid should be able to make his own decision.
With all this B$ it's easy to why half these kids transfer.
Eric Bossi and others made a good point about how this maybe a little paranoia on the part of UC fans. First off the AAU team Obekpa runs with is affiliated with Adidas. In other words he already has a relationship with the shoe company his handlers supposedly want nothing to do with.
Secondly, Obekpa is a nice player for sure. But let's not act like he is a surefire can't miss Anthony Davis like big man. In other words why would a shoe company go thru this much trouble (presuming they plan to benefit from the kid and in turn benefit his handlers) to push a top 100/top 75 kid to a certain school?
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Again, if Bennett goes to Oregon, don't see it as an option for Chris.
Guess Oregon out for Bennett.
“@AdamZagoria: .@findlayprep F Anthony Bennett is leaning "90 percent" toward UNLV over Oregon, source tells @SNYtv”
Pretty stunning development over the last week for Bennett. Everybody assumed he this was a Florida v UK battle. Then he drops Florida, then he drops Kentucky.
Apparently he had some visit to Vegas recently. Dave Rice is trying to build UNLV into what Tark had it in the 80's and early 90's. Be right there with UCLA and Arizona as the premiere destination out west for top recruits.
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Again, if Bennett goes to Oregon, don't see it as an option for Chris.
Guess Oregon out for Bennett.
“@AdamZagoria: .@findlayprep F Anthony Bennett is leaning "90 percent" toward UNLV over Oregon, source tells @SNYtv”
Pretty stunning development over the last week for Bennett. Everybody assumed he this was a Florida v UK battle. Then he drops Florida, then he drops Kentucky.
Apparently he had some visit to Vegas recently. Dave Rice is trying to build UNLV into what Tark had it in the 80's and early 90's. Be right there with UCLA and Arizona as the premiere destination out west for top recruits.
Well maybe Bennett felt comfortable in Vegas since he went to high school in nearby Henderson. I guess he was also serious about playing with Birch. The conference lur for top recruits to play for UNLV is puzzling though.
Truly I am shocked he passed on KY. There was at least 20 minutes a game waiting for him and after 2 years he would have been a top 10 pick.
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Again, if Bennett goes to Oregon, don't see it as an option for Chris.
Guess Oregon out for Bennett.
“@AdamZagoria: .@findlayprep F Anthony Bennett is leaning "90 percent" toward UNLV over Oregon, source tells @SNYtv”
unlv has the two prospects i loved to watch most this year if they get bennett. katin reinhardt is a stud. runnin rebels to the next level if they can pull this off
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Again, if Bennett goes to Oregon, don't see it as an option for Chris.
Guess Oregon out for Bennett.
“@AdamZagoria: .@findlayprep F Anthony Bennett is leaning "90 percent" toward UNLV over Oregon, source tells @SNYtv”
unlv has the two prospects i loved to watch most this year if they get bennett. katin reinhardt is a stud. runnin rebels to the next level if they can pull this off
Add in Birch transfer and they would be solid. Rice doing a great job!
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Again, if Bennett goes to Oregon, don't see it as an option for Chris.
Guess Oregon out for Bennett.
“@AdamZagoria: .@findlayprep F Anthony Bennett is leaning "90 percent" toward UNLV over Oregon, source tells @SNYtv”
unlv has the two prospects i loved to watch most this year if they get bennett. katin reinhardt is a stud. runnin rebels to the next level if they can pull this off
Reinhardt is really good.
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Again, if Bennett goes to Oregon, don't see it as an option for Chris.
Guess Oregon out for Bennett.
“@AdamZagoria: .@findlayprep F Anthony Bennett is leaning "90 percent" toward UNLV over Oregon, source tells @SNYtv”
unlv has the two prospects i loved to watch most this year if they get bennett. katin reinhardt is a stud. runnin rebels to the next level if they can pull this off
Add in Birch transfer and they would be solid. Rice doing a great job!
thats if bennet isnt one and done, hes shocked me already thus far and showed me a lot of character on his part by dismissing all the high level programs regardless of prestige or status and focused in on sincerely finding the proper fit for him.
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Reinhardt and Bennett are real studs. Birch is overrated IMO, but can certainly be serviceable. UNLV building a real power out there for sure.
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Again, if Bennett goes to Oregon, don't see it as an option for Chris.
Guess Oregon out for Bennett.
“@AdamZagoria: .@findlayprep F Anthony Bennett is leaning "90 percent" toward UNLV over Oregon, source tells @SNYtv”
unlv has the two prospects i loved to watch most this year if they get bennett. katin reinhardt is a stud. runnin rebels to the next level if they can pull this off
Add in Birch transfer and they would be solid. Rice doing a great job!
thats if bennet isnt one and done, hes shocked me already thus far and showed me a lot of character on his part by dismissing all the high level programs regardless of prestige or status and focused in on sincerely finding the proper fit for him.
He's 6'7, though. I wouldn't touch him if I was an NBA GM in the first round unless he proves he can play some SF. I doubt he makes the jump after a year, because he'll have a tough time getting stats with the talent at UNLV.
UNLV is going to be filthy next year. They are a legit Final Four contender now that the former UCLA transfer, Mike Moser, who averaged 14 points and 10.5 boards, announced he'll return for his junior year. They'll have a front court of Moser-Bennet-Birch (eligible mid-December), the former 6'9 Kansas transfer, Quintrell Thomas, AND a 6'11 rising junior, Lopez, that played double-digt minutes for them. They also get a big-time scorer eligible from his USC transfer, Bryce Jones, and return two rising senior guards that played over 25 mpg. Oh yeah, then there is Katin Reinhart as well.
UNLV and San Diego State are showing how important the transfer game can be these days. I'm glad Lavin has shown he wants in with the involvement with Branch, Momo, and Turner.
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Wow, that is quite a lineup.
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Guess Chris getting close. Sorry to those who held out hope!
“@christopherewao: Oregon,providence,depaul and cincinatti... Who should get the commit...”
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Guess Chris getting close. Sorry to those who held out hope!
“@christopherewao: Oregon,providence,depaul and cincinatti... Who should get the commit...”
Well, at least we can stop hoping.
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Go to Oregon I don't wanna play him
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I'm only holding hope for Chandler...
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Oregon, Cincinnati, Depaul and Providence.
He doesn't ask for much.
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Oregon, Cincinnati, Depaul and Providence.
He doesn't ask for much.
Interesting. Are we over-rating this kid?
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Oregon, Cincinnati, Depaul and Providence.
He doesn't ask for much.
Interesting. Are we over-rating this kid?
yes. huge offensive liability.
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Disagree we are not overrating him.
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Yanking the chain? Come on Chris, pick a school. the world won't end for us!
“@christopherewao: What bout st johns nd UCONN... What u think bout them... Good looks too”
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Oregon, Cincinnati, Depaul and Providence.
He doesn't ask for much.
Interesting. Are we over-rating this kid?
No just under-paying
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Oregon, Cincinnati, Depaul and Providence.
He doesn't ask for much.
Interesting. Are we over-rating this kid?
yes. huge offensive liability.
Liability?? C'mon you act like you haven't seen some of the offensive center gems that Norm brought in. I'm certain we are out of the running for him.. But how much would he need to score anyway?
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Oregon, Cincinnati, Depaul and Providence.
He doesn't ask for much.
Interesting. Are we over-rating this kid?
yes. huge offensive liability.
Liability?? C'mon you act like you haven't seen some of the offensive center gems that Norm brought in. I'm certain we are out of the running for him.. But how much would he need to score anyway?
Happy you seem to know the NYC high school hoops scene well and I respect your opinion. Maybe you have seen him more times than I have. Ive seen 4 or 5 full games of him on the web. He struggles to catch the ball let alone score. He doesnt have any touch and he looks lost. Im not saying he doesnt have potential. He can obviously block shots real well. I just think he is overrated, both by us and by scouting services.
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Oregon, Cincinnati, Depaul and Providence.
He doesn't ask for much.
Interesting. Are we over-rating this kid?
yes. huge offensive liability.
Liability?? C'mon you act like you haven't seen some of the offensive center gems that Norm brought in. I'm certain we are out of the running for him.. But how much would he need to score anyway?
Happy you seem to know the NYC high school hoops scene well and I respect your opinion. Maybe you have seen him more times than I have. Ive seen 4 or 5 full games of him on the web. He struggles to catch the ball let alone score. He doesnt have any touch and he looks lost. Im not saying he doesnt have potential. He can obviously block shots real well. I just think he is overrated, both by us and by scouting services.
You don't need more than 2-3 baskets a game from him. That's not asking a lot in terms of put backs. Look at Dieng from Lville last year. Same player path I can see Obekpa taking. You are signing up for his defense, not looking for a 10ppg player freshman year.
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This is the part of the process where we are eliminated and now we can commence trashing the kid, accuse him of taking money, and say he sucks anyway.... I remember this part.. This is fun. ;)
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Oregon, Cincinnati, Depaul and Providence.
He doesn't ask for much.
Interesting. Are we over-rating this kid?
yes. huge offensive liability.
Liability?? C'mon you act like you haven't seen some of the offensive center gems that Norm brought in. I'm certain we are out of the running for him.. But how much would he need to score anyway?
Happy you seem to know the NYC high school hoops scene well and I respect your opinion. Maybe you have seen him more times than I have. Ive seen 4 or 5 full games of him on the web. He struggles to catch the ball let alone score. He doesnt have any touch and he looks lost. Im not saying he doesnt have potential. He can obviously block shots real well. I just think he is overrated, both by us and by scouting services.
He is raw on offense no question.. But he wouldn't hurt us on offense and that's why I said you can't really call him a liability. Like Moose said.. A couple of putbacks a game is all you need from him. That portion of his game will surely develop in time.
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The kid should sign up for Suffolk CC and take another year to decide.
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The kid should sign up for Suffolk CC and take another year to decide.
Why not two? :)
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This is the part of the process where we are eliminated and now we can commence trashing the kid, accuse him of taking money, and say he sucks anyway.... I remember this part.. This is fun. ;)
Acually, obekpa himself tweeted that "they don't pay" in reference to SJU not too long ago. You don't remember the obekpa twittergate?? I think there was some conversation and worries about that at the time. I don't know one way or the other.
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This is the part of the process where we are eliminated and now we can commence trashing the kid, accuse him of taking money, and say he sucks anyway.... I remember this part.. This is fun. ;)
Acually, obekpa himself tweeted that "they don't pay" in reference to SJU not too long ago. You don't remember the obekpa twittergate?? I think there was some conversation and worries about that at the time. I don't know one way or the other.
It seemed pretty obvious it was a joke.
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This is the part of the process where we are eliminated and now we can commence trashing the kid, accuse him of taking money, and say he sucks anyway.... I remember this part.. This is fun. ;)
Acually, obekpa himself tweeted that "they don't pay" in reference to SJU not too long ago. You don't remember the obekpa twittergate?? I think there was some conversation and worries about that at the time. I don't know one way or the other.
It seemed pretty obvious it was a joke.
Any time a recruit talks about schools paying money it isn't a joke by default. Its not something to speak about, joke about at all by a recruit. He also said at the time that his spirit wasnt at SJU. Those are things that a recruit generally wouldnt mention publicly. All those tweets were erased right away. I think he thought those were private. Not obvious it was a joke to anybody reading them.
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This is the part of the process where we are eliminated and now we can commence trashing the kid, accuse him of taking money, and say he sucks anyway.... I remember this part.. This is fun. ;)
Ive been saying sense the time felix verbaled that I think we got the better OSNA player.
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Oregon, Cincinnati, Depaul and Providence.
He doesn't ask for much.
Interesting. Are we over-rating this kid?
yes. huge offensive liability.
Liability?? C'mon you act like you haven't seen some of the offensive center gems that Norm brought in. I'm certain we are out of the running for him.. But how much would he need to score anyway?
Happy you seem to know the NYC high school hoops scene well and I respect your opinion. Maybe you have seen him more times than I have. Ive seen 4 or 5 full games of him on the web. He struggles to catch the ball let alone score. He doesnt have any touch and he looks lost. Im not saying he doesnt have potential. He can obviously block shots real well. I just think he is overrated, both by us and by scouting services.
You don't need more than 2-3 baskets a game from him. That's not asking a lot in terms of put backs. Look at Dieng from Lville last year. Same player path I can see Obekpa taking. You are signing up for his defense, not looking for a 10ppg player freshman year.
That is fine. You can say that and you might not be wrong. Does that mean that maybe hes not overrated? In my opinion he is.
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This is the part of the process where we are eliminated and now we can commence trashing the kid, accuse him of taking money, and say he sucks anyway.... I remember this part.. This is fun. ;)
Acually, obekpa himself tweeted that "they don't pay" in reference to SJU not too long ago. You don't remember the obekpa twittergate?? I think there was some conversation and worries about that at the time. I don't know one way or the other.
It seemed pretty obvious it was a joke.
Any time a recruit talks about schools paying money it isn't a joke by default. Its not something to speak about, joke about at all by a recruit. He also said at the time that his spirit wasnt at SJU. Those are things that a recruit generally wouldnt mention publicly. All those tweets were erased right away. I think he thought those were private. Not obvious it was a joke to anybody reading them.
And if he said he was leaning towards St. John's, there is no doubt in my Mind you and everyone else would be saying it was obviously a joke.
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This is the part of the process where we are eliminated and now we can commence trashing the kid, accuse him of taking money, and say he sucks anyway.... I remember this part.. This is fun. ;)
Acually, obekpa himself tweeted that "they don't pay" in reference to SJU not too long ago. You don't remember the obekpa twittergate?? I think there was some conversation and worries about that at the time. I don't know one way or the other.
It seemed pretty obvious it was a joke.
Any time a recruit talks about schools paying money it isn't a joke by default. Its not something to speak about, joke about at all by a recruit. He also said at the time that his spirit wasnt at SJU. Those are things that a recruit generally wouldnt mention publicly. All those tweets were erased right away. I think he thought those were private. Not obvious it was a joke to anybody reading them.
And if he said he was leaning towards St. John's, there is no doubt in my Mind you and everyone else would be saying it was obviously a joke.
I'm not saying anything but at the time it was worrisome. I don't know if you remember the thread, but nobody thought it was a joke. At the time, I commented that I was hoping it was some misinterpretation, but that SJU seemed in the clear because he joked that we don't pay. Like I said, I don't know one way or another but was never real comfortable with those comments nor the ones that his spirit wasn't feeling SJU. I don't want kids that don't want to be here period...
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This is the part of the process where we are eliminated and now we can commence trashing the kid, accuse him of taking money, and say he sucks anyway.... I remember this part.. This is fun. ;)
Acually, obekpa himself tweeted that "they don't pay" in reference to SJU not too long ago. You don't remember the obekpa twittergate?? I think there was some conversation and worries about that at the time. I don't know one way or the other.
It seemed pretty obvious it was a joke.
Any time a recruit talks about schools paying money it isn't a joke by default. Its not something to speak about, joke about at all by a recruit. He also said at the time that his spirit wasnt at SJU. Those are things that a recruit generally wouldnt mention publicly. All those tweets were erased right away. I think he thought those were private. Not obvious it was a joke to anybody reading them.
I'm with you, it wasn't obvious to me it was a joke. A recruit should know not to even joke about that.
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Dam behind Jakarr I wanted Chris the 2nd most. His rebounding and shot blocking would of trigger our fast pace offense and allowed our great perimeter defenders to extend knowing a great shot blocker is behind them.
Dam we still need TWO bigs!
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This is the part of the process where we are eliminated and now we can commence trashing the kid, accuse him of taking money, and say he sucks anyway.... I remember this part.. This is fun. ;)
Acually, obekpa himself tweeted that "they don't pay" in reference to SJU not too long ago. You don't remember the obekpa twittergate?? I think there was some conversation and worries about that at the time. I don't know one way or the other.
It seemed pretty obvious it was a joke.
Any time a recruit talks about schools paying money it isn't a joke by default. Its not something to speak about, joke about at all by a recruit. He also said at the time that his spirit wasnt at SJU. Those are things that a recruit generally wouldnt mention publicly. All those tweets were erased right away. I think he thought those were private. Not obvious it was a joke to anybody reading them.
I'm with you, it wasn't obvious to me it was a joke. A recruit should know not to even joke about that.
I thought everyone overreacted. Big shocker for this board. His comment ended with "lol". Where I come from "lol" means laugh out loud and insinuates a joke.
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Let's move on. Chris is a great shot blocker, but offensively a work in progress. I agree with Moose that giving us modest offense would be ok. We have not had a shot blocker in a long time & he could have filled that void. That luxury would allow us to pressure the ball more and cheat on the wings to key fast breaks.
All in all, just like the solid schools under consideration, we could have benefitted by his presence and development. We knew for a long time that we were not his choice. Let's wish him well and keep supporting staff in their development of a program that has a bright future IMO.
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Dam behind Jakarr I wanted Chris the 2nd most. His rebounding and shot blocking would of trigger our fast pace offense and allowed our great perimeter defenders to extend knowing a great shot blocker is behind them.
Dam we still need TWO bigs!
I'd much prefer Chandler personally. We definitely don't need two more bigs in this class. Add one and we still have Gift and Orlando for the 4/5 which is plenty this season.
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This is the part of the process where we are eliminated and now we can commence trashing the kid, accuse him of taking money, and say he sucks anyway.... I remember this part.. This is fun. ;)
Acually, obekpa himself tweeted that "they don't pay" in reference to SJU not too long ago. You don't remember the obekpa twittergate?? I think there was some conversation and worries about that at the time. I don't know one way or the other.
It seemed pretty obvious it was a joke.
Any time a recruit talks about schools paying money it isn't a joke by default. Its not something to speak about, joke about at all by a recruit. He also said at the time that his spirit wasnt at SJU. Those are things that a recruit generally wouldnt mention publicly. All those tweets were erased right away. I think he thought those were private. Not obvious it was a joke to anybody reading them.
I'm with you, it wasn't obvious to me it was a joke. A recruit should know not to even joke about that.
I thought everyone overreacted. Big shocker for this board. His comment ended with "lol". Where I come from "lol" means laugh out loud and insinuates a joke.
lol doesn't always insinuate a joke. I'm just saying, I'm with MCN that he probably thought the tweet was private.
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A tweet being private? If he thought that, what planet has he been living on for the past five years. Mentioning money while in the recruiting process is never a good idea, even in jest.
And you know, if Chris was coming to St. John's other boards would have mentioned that we had found deep pockets to take care of Chris. It is difficult enough to try to keep the recruiting trail of a kid clear, without the player talking about pay.
Boy, St. John's must have really have turned Chris off some how. Was it the possibility of Michael playing the #5 for us?
I can see Chris wanting to venture out to OR, but DePaul and Providence? I guess he does not like real pizza.
So much for wanting to play with his favorite best boy, Felix.
Onward and upward!
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A tweet being private? If he thought that, what planet has he been living on for the past five years. Mentioning money while in the recruiting process is never a good idea, even in jest.
And you know, if Chris was coming to St. John's other boards would have mentioned that we had found deep pockets to take care of Chris. It is difficult enough to try to keep the recruiting trail of a kid clear, without the player talking about pay.
Boy, St. John's must have really have turned Chris off some how. Was it the possibility of Michael playing the #5 for us?
I can see Chris wanting to venture out to OR, but DePaul and Providence? I guess he does not like real pizza.
So much for wanting to play with his favorite best boy, Felix.
Onward and upward!
Did you ever think he turned off STJ?
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A tweet being private? If he thought that, what planet has he been living on for the past five years. Mentioning money while in the recruiting process is never a good idea, even in jest.
And you know, if Chris was coming to St. John's other boards would have mentioned that we had found deep pockets to take care of Chris. It is difficult enough to try to keep the recruiting trail of a kid clear, without the player talking about pay.
Boy, St. John's must have really have turned Chris off some how. Was it the possibility of Michael playing the #5 for us?
I can see Chris wanting to venture out to OR, but DePaul and Providence? I guess he does not like real pizza.
So much for wanting to play with his favorite best boy, Felix.
Onward and upward!
Did you ever think he turned off STJ?
With all the drama, he certainly turned me off fwiw.
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I certainly can see that he might have turned off Coach. And you are right, I would rather focus on the possibility of Michael joining us.
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A tweet being private? If he thought that, what planet has he been living on for the past five years. Mentioning money while in the recruiting process is never a good idea, even in jest.
And you know, if Chris was coming to St. John's other boards would have mentioned that we had found deep pockets to take care of Chris. It is difficult enough to try to keep the recruiting trail of a kid clear, without the player talking about pay.
Boy, St. John's must have really have turned Chris off some how. Was it the possibility of Michael playing the #5 for us?
I can see Chris wanting to venture out to OR, but DePaul and Providence? I guess he does not like real pizza.
So much for wanting to play with his favorite best boy, Felix.
Onward and upward!
Did you ever think he turned off STJ?
With all the drama, he certainly turned me off fwiw.
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I certainly can see that he might have turned off Coach. And you are right, I would rather focus on the possibility of Michael joining us.
I think we probably have.
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I don't think Obepka's tweets were a joke and I do believe his lack of a commitment at this point echos those statements by continuing to look towards other schools. For whatever reason he wasn't into St Johns and I do know that we were turned off by his tweets.
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The upside of the Obekpa quote was he confirmed that at SJU we "don't pay." Yeah, he was joking around in a publicly accessible forum, which was not very smart. Certainly does not make him look good. And my guess it turned our coaches off. A recruit should never even joke about money. Some might say that "in jest there is truth"... again, SJU doesn't pay. Good. Maybe he'll go somewhere else that does.
Chandler is our impact player. He is the guy we want. Once he signs, I'm going to march right over to Carnesecca Arena and buy season tickets. Chandler will see the real money down the line, after he dominates at MSG and wins a national championship at SJU.
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The upside of the Obekpa quote was he confirmed that at SJU we "don't pay." Yeah, he was joking around in a publicly accessible forum, which was not very smart. Certainly does not make him look good. And my guess it turned our coaches off. A recruit should never even joke about money. Some might say that "in jest there is truth"... again, SJU doesn't pay. Good. Maybe he'll go somewhere else that does.
Chandler is our impact player. He is the guy we want. Once he signs, I'm going to march right over to Carnesecca Arena and buy season tickets. Chandler will see the real money down the line, after he dominates at MSG and wins a national championship at SJU.
Why not get tickets now?
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Haha! Yes, I should. Are they available already? I usually get them after a provisional schedule has been released.
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I think Obekpa's tweets were his way of telling us that he wants to get paid for playing college basketball. If there was a joke in there, I must have missed it.
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I think Obekpa's tweets were his way of telling us that he wants to get paid for playing college basketball. If there was a joke in there, I must have missed it.
There was no suggestion that the tweet was a joke, he was talking with the star recruit for the women's program
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Whatever the case, it made him look like a fool.
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Whatever the case, it made him look like a fool.
And I truly believe he just visited to save face and used St Johns for the weekend. We shouldnt have even allowed him to visit after knowing how he felt about us but I tend to believe we didn't want yo cut off nose to spite face as it pertains to future OSNA players
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I don't think Obepka's tweets were a joke and I do believe his lack of a commitment at this point echos those statements by continuing to look towards other schools. For whatever reason he wasn't into St Johns and I do know that we were turned off by his tweets.
His visit says otherwise. The kid put "lol" At the end of the tweet... I think that certainly suggests it was a joke. He doesn't want to come here...We move on...no need to call the kid a money grabber.
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I don't think Obepka's tweets were a joke and I do believe his lack of a commitment at this point echos those statements by continuing to look towards other schools. For whatever reason he wasn't into St Johns and I do know that we were turned off by his tweets.
His visit says otherwise. The kid put "lol" At the end of the tweet... I think that certainly suggests it was a joke. He doesn't want to come here...We move on...no need to call the kid a money grabber.
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I don't think Obepka's tweets were a joke and I do believe his lack of a commitment at this point echos those statements by continuing to look towards other schools. For whatever reason he wasn't into St Johns and I do know that we were turned off by his tweets.
His visit says otherwise. The kid put "lol" At the end of the tweet... I think that certainly suggests it was a joke. He doesn't want to come here...We move on...no need to call the kid a money grabber.
I am not pulling a UK fan thing here but his recruitment has been "interesting"
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If the kid doesn't want to come to St. John's, he shouldn't. I rather have a kid like Chandler who seems to ACTUALLY want to be with us. If he qualifies, sign him up and let Chris O do his own thing.
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Whatever the case, it made him look like a fool.
And I truly believe he just visited to save face and used St Johns for the weekend. We shouldnt have even allowed him to visit after knowing how he felt about us but I tend to believe we didn't want yo cut off nose to spite face as it pertains to
future OSNA players
Who wouldn't want a free weekend in Queens?
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A free weekend in Providence gets you a BJ---so, why not?
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Dam behind Jakarr I wanted Chris the 2nd most. His rebounding and shot blocking would of trigger our fast pace offense and allowed our great perimeter defenders to extend knowing a great shot blocker is behind them.
Dam we still need TWO bigs!
I'd much prefer Chandler personally. We definitely don't need two more bigs in this class. Add one and we still have Gift and Orlando for the 4/5 which is plenty this season.
I want both Chandler & Chris and that is not being greedy that is just what we need bad. IMO Orlando seems more like a 3/4. I am just tired of getting killed on the boards when we play elite teams & getting no easy points in the post. Thank god , Big East lost a lot of their quality Bigs this year, so maybe a lack of a big man won't hurt us as much this year.
Just hope we can get a good C in 2013 or it will be very hard to turn the corner.
Also if Chris doesn't want to play here definitely don't want him here!
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If the kid doesn't want to come to St. John's, he shouldn't. I rather have a kid like Chandler who seems to ACTUALLY want to be with us. If he qualifies, sign him up and let Chris O do his own thing.
Chandler seems like he ACTUALLY wanted to be with many teams in the past...
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Dam behind Jakarr I wanted Chris the 2nd most. His rebounding and shot blocking would of trigger our fast pace offense and allowed our great perimeter defenders to extend knowing a great shot blocker is behind them.
Dam we still need TWO bigs!
I'd much prefer Chandler personally. We definitely don't need two more bigs in this class. Add one and we still have Gift and Orlando for the 4/5 which is plenty this season.
I want both Chandler & Chris and that is not being greedy that is just what we need bad. IMO Orlando seems more like a 3/4. I am just tired of getting killed on the boards when we play elite teams & getting no easy points in the post. Thank god , Big East lost a lot of their quality Bigs this year, so maybe a lack of a big man won't hurt us as much this year.
Just hope we can get a good C in 2013 or it will be very hard to turn the corner.
Also if Chris doesn't want to play here definitely don't want him here!
It amazes me how restless people get when a kid doesn't commit here. We are not getting both Chandler and Obekpa.. and even though it would be nice.. we don't need both. Yesterday the staff officially announces the addition of 6 players... and you are worried that " it will be very hard to turn the corner" Patience :)
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I want 6 big men. Why don't we have 6 big men? I don't care that you can only have 13 scholarship players. Or that most teams only play 10 'maybe' 11 guys. I want 18 players. We can get the others to walk on.
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I want 6 big men. Why don't we have 6 big men? I don't care that you can only have 13 scholarship players. Or that most teams only play 10 'maybe' 11 guys. I want 18 players. We can get the others to walk on.
How tall will your big men be Moose? lol
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I want 6 big men. Why don't we have 6 big men? I don't care that you can only have 13 scholarship players. Or that most teams only play 10 'maybe' 11 guys. I want 18 players. We can get the others to walk on.
How tall will your big men be Moose? lol
At minimum 7 ft. Nobody under 7 ft.
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I want 6 big men. Why don't we have 6 big men? I don't care that you can only have 13 scholarship players. Or that most teams only play 10 'maybe' 11 guys. I want 18 players. We can get the others to walk on.
Well UCLA is fielding a team with about 11 big men this season... ;)
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I want 6 big men. Why don't we have 6 big men? I don't care that you can only have 13 scholarship players. Or that most teams only play 10 'maybe' 11 guys. I want 18 players. We can get the others to walk on.
How tall will your big men be Moose? lol
At minimum 7 ft. Nobody under 7 ft.
Heard Michael obekpa just decommitted from bank of America university and he's wide open hearing from all the big guns . He's said to have interest in us but only stands 6'11 and 3/4. Grades could be an issue.
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I want 6 big men. Why don't we have 6 big men? I don't care that you can only have 13 scholarship players. Or that most teams only play 10 'maybe' 11 guys. I want 18 players. We can get the others to walk on.
Coleman, Keita, Southerland, Christmas, Fair and Grant.
That's what I'd like here. It's certainly not unheard of because there it is. Spelled out. It works.
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I want 6 big men. Why don't we have 6 big men? I don't care that you can only have 13 scholarship players. Or that most teams only play 10 'maybe' 11 guys. I want 18 players. We can get the others to walk on.
Coleman, Keita, Southerland, Christmas, Fair and Grant.
That's what I'd like here. It's certainly not unheard of because there it is. Spelled out. It works.
Southerland, Fair and Grant are not big men IMO
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I want 6 big men. Why don't we have 6 big men? I don't care that you can only have 13 scholarship players. Or that most teams only play 10 'maybe' 11 guys. I want 18 players. We can get the others to walk on.
Coleman, Keita, Southerland, Christmas, Fair and Grant.
That's what I'd like here. It's certainly not unheard of because there it is. Spelled out. It works.
Southerland, Fair and Grant are not big men IMO
Southerland, Fair and Grant aren't much different than Sampson, Pointer, Amir. Christmas abut the same as Orlando. Coleman is a big boy but Gift isn't much shorter. We're missing a guy like Keita for sure. He's the only bonafide pure center of that group.
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We have 3 "big" men. We don't have enough to even match up in practice. I don't care if they.are centers but ideally you want 4 to 5 big guys of at least PF size 6' 8" or bigger and over 200 pounds.or so. Are any of the the three we have that big? Sanchez and Sampson can't be much over 200 pounds soaking wet.
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We have 3 "big" men. We don't have enough to even match up in practice. I don't care if they.are centers but ideally you want 4 to 5 big guys of at least PF size 6' 8" or bigger and over 200 pounds.or so. Are any of the the three we have that big? Sanchez and Sampson can't be much over 200 pounds soaking wet.
You can't just take a figure like 6'8" and equate that to being a big man. Cuse has 3 big men too. Christmas, Coleman and Keita. Grant is 6'7" 195 lb wing. Southerland and Fair are 6'8 200lb wings also. SJU's Garrett and Pointer are both about 6'6" 200lbs which is not much different than Syracuse's wings. Sampson is about 6'8" 200lbs. Orlando 6'9" 215 which is the same size as Christmas. It's pretty much a wash there.
Cuse has Coleman and Keita. For big bodies in that realm, we only have Gift. Coleman is generously listed at about 6'9"and 280, Gift about 6'8" and 235. I agree that we could really use one more big guy,must we certainly aren't dwarfed by Syracuse's roster next season.
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We tend to get caught up in measurements too much.
CJ Fair is a big man in my book. He is a great rebounder, especially offensive, and does most of his damage in the paint.
I'd rather have guys like him and Jakarr than a 7 foot stiff like CuJo or Muto. Was Charles Barkely a big man? Charles Mineland, A Glover?
I will be perfectly cOntent with this class if Chandler is the last guy brought in.
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Dam behind Jakarr I wanted Chris the 2nd most. His rebounding and shot blocking would of trigger our fast pace offense and allowed our great perimeter defenders to extend knowing a great shot blocker is behind them.
Dam we still need TWO bigs!
I'd much prefer Chandler personally. We definitely don't need two more bigs in this class. Add one and we still have Gift and Orlando for the 4/5 which is plenty this season.
I want both Chandler & Chris and that is not being greedy that is just what we need bad. IMO Orlando seems more like a 3/4. I am just tired of getting killed on the boards when we play elite teams & getting no easy points in the post. Thank god , Big East lost a lot of their quality Bigs this year, so maybe a lack of a big man won't hurt us as much this year.
Just hope we can get a good C in 2013 or it will be very hard to turn the corner.
Also if Chris doesn't want to play here definitely don't want him here!
It amazes me how restless people get when a kid doesn't commit here. We are not getting both Chandler and Obekpa.. and even though it would be nice.. we don't need both. Yesterday the staff officially announces the addition of 6 players... and you are worried that " it will be very hard to turn the corner" Patience :)
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I am not getting restless I just appreciate Chris's game and wanted him on the roster. Felt like he filled a void and balanced out the roster. You can never have a enough big men playing in the NCAA with 5 fouls especially after losing our best interior player and rebounder.
Chandler and Chris would make us a top 10 squad by season end. Would see no weakness.
You said we don't need both? Is that to win an NCAA championship or to win the NIT title?
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We tend to get caught up in measurements too much.
CJ Fair is a big man in my book. He is a great rebounder, especially offensive, and does most of his damage in the paint.
I'd rather have guys like him and Jakarr than a 7 foot stiff like CuJo or Muto. Was Charles Barkely a big man? Charles Mineland, A Glover?
I will be perfectly cOntent with this class if Chandler is the last guy brought in.
CJ Fair is Amir to me. I see so much in common.
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We tend to get caught up in measurements too much.
CJ Fair is a big man in my book. He is a great rebounder, especially offensive, and does most of his damage in the paint.
I'd rather have guys like him and Jakarr than a 7 foot stiff like CuJo or Muto. Was Charles Barkely a big man? Charles Mineland, A Glover?
I will be perfectly cOntent with this class if Chandler is the last guy brought in.
CJ Fair is Amir to me. I see so much in common.
Really? I hope you are right. Fair is physically bigger . Plays a lot more in the paint.
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We tend to get caught up in measurements too much.
CJ Fair is a big man in my book. He is a great rebounder, especially offensive, and does most of his damage in the paint.
I'd rather have guys like him and Jakarr than a 7 foot stiff like CuJo or Muto. Was Charles Barkely a big man? Charles Mineland, A Glover?
I will be perfectly cOntent with this class if Chandler is the last guy brought in.
CJ Fair is Amir to me. I see so much in common.
Really? I hope you are right. Fair is physically bigger . Plays a lot more in the paint.
They are pretty much same size plus-
CJ averages 8.5 and 5 freshman year. Amir averaged 7.4 and 4.
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Interesting. I thought Fair was 6'8 and Amir 6'6. Numbers are similar. I would assume that Amir had a lot more minutes per game though. ( I don't have the stats in front of me). But maybe not.
Would love for Amir to be that type of player though . To be a great team you need guys that do those little things.
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Fair 18.6 min freshman year 26.4 min soph year. Amir 26.9 mins per game
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Dam behind Jakarr I wanted Chris the 2nd most. His rebounding and shot blocking would of trigger our fast pace offense and allowed our great perimeter defenders to extend knowing a great shot blocker is behind them.
Dam we still need TWO bigs!
I'd much prefer Chandler personally. We definitely don't need two more bigs in this class. Add one and we still have Gift and Orlando for the 4/5 which is plenty this season.
I want both Chandler & Chris and that is not being greedy that is just what we need bad. IMO Orlando seems more like a 3/4. I am just tired of getting killed on the boards when we play elite teams & getting no easy points in the post. Thank god , Big East lost a lot of their quality Bigs this year, so maybe a lack of a big man won't hurt us as much this year.
Just hope we can get a good C in 2013 or it will be very hard to turn the corner.
Also if Chris doesn't want to play here definitely don't want him here!
It amazes me how restless people get when a kid doesn't commit here. We are not getting both Chandler and Obekpa.. and even though it would be nice.. we don't need both. Yesterday the staff officially announces the addition of 6 players... and you are worried that " it will be very hard to turn the corner" Patience :)
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I am not getting restless I just appreciate Chris's game and wanted him on the roster. Felt like he filled a void and balanced out the roster. You can never have a enough big men playing in the NCAA with 5 fouls especially after losing our best interior player and rebounder.
Chandler and Chris would make us a top 10 squad by season end. Would see no weakness.
You said we don't need both? Is that to win an NCAA championship or to win the NIT title?
We don't need both.. It would be great.. But it isn't happening... Not trying to be negative but if you think getting both would get us to a NCAA title or a top 10 ranking this year .. Well then you are drinking :). Baby steps with this team IMO. If we could slip into the tourney and hover outside the top 25 , then I think we would all be pleased and admit that could be realistic.
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Fair 18.6 min freshman year 26.4 min soph year. Amir 26.9 mins per game
Amir with a late start too missing a chunk of games.
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Fair 18.6 min freshman year 26.4 min soph year. Amir 26.9 mins per game
Amir with a late start too missing a chunk of games.
Yes but Amir on a team desperate for players on which my grandmother could've averaged 20 minutes, versus Fair on a very deep team and still getting 26. Amir might not get 27 this year.
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Thanks for the stats KJD.
I was just curious what the difference in minutes between Fair and Amir were during their freshman seasons.
I don't think anyone is saying Amir is as good as Fair, yet. Comparing there games is fair ( no pun intended). Still think Amir is more perimeter oriented, or will be. If Amir can be that kind of offensive rebounder, that would be great.
While i hate Syracuse, I Like Cj Fair. I hope Amir can be that type of player for us.
We digress....this is supposed to be about Obekpa, although i think we have run out of things to say at this point, at least things that are productive.
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Thanks for the stats KJD.
I was just curious what the difference in minutes between Fair and Amir were during their freshman seasons.
I don't think anyone is saying Amir is as good as Fair, yet. Comparing there games is fair ( no pun intended). Still think Amir is more perimeter oriented, or will be. If Amir can be that kind of offensive rebounder, that would be great.
While i hate Syracuse, I Like Cj Fair. I hope Amir can be that type of player for us.
We digress....this is supposed to be about Obekpa, although i think we have run out of things to say at this point, at least things that are productive.
I'd rather talk about Amir and Fair than Obekpa :)
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We tend to get caught up in measurements too much.
CJ Fair is a big man in my book. He is a great rebounder, especially offensive, and does most of his damage in the paint.
I'd rather have guys like him and Jakarr than a 7 foot stiff like CuJo or Muto. Was Charles Barkely a big man? Charles Mineland, A Glover?
I will be perfectly cOntent with this class if Chandler is the last guy brought in.
That's the thing, Fair is really, really good. He played the 2-5 last year, and he held his own inside. I'd love a kid like that. If that's what Dom Pointer turns into, wonderful, but we still need rebounders. From my take, we are returning one decent rebounder in Garrett. We bring in Sanchez and Sampson. We need more. I think a better way to put it instead of size, is that we need interior interior defenders, and rebounders. And yes, we need 6 of them because that's a full roster. One guy will get hurt, and one guy will have bad grades. If you have 6 total big men, you'll fine. If you have 6 total players total, you win 13 games.
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We tend to get caught up in measurements too much.
CJ Fair is a big man in my book. He is a great rebounder, especially offensive, and does most of his damage in the paint.
I'd rather have guys like him and Jakarr than a 7 foot stiff like CuJo or Muto. Was Charles Barkely a big man? Charles Mineland, A Glover?
I will be perfectly cOntent with this class if Chandler is the last guy brought in.
That's the thing, Fair is really, really good. He played the 2-5 last year, and he held his own inside. I'd love a kid like that. If that's what Dom Pointer turns into, wonderful, but we still need rebounders. From my take, we are returning one decent rebounder in Garrett. We bring in Sanchez and Sampson. We need more. I think a better way to put it instead of size, is that we need interior interior defenders, and rebounders. And yes, we need 6 of them because that's a full roster. One guy will get hurt, and one guy will have bad grades. If you have 6 total big men, you'll fine. If you have 6 total players total, you win 13 games.
When did Fair play the 5 when Cuse had Melo, Christmas and Keita as you mention?
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Dam behind Jakarr I wanted Chris the 2nd most. His rebounding and shot blocking would of trigger our fast pace offense and allowed our great perimeter defenders to extend knowing a great shot blocker is behind them.
Dam we still need TWO bigs!
I'd much prefer Chandler personally. We definitely don't need two more bigs in this class. Add one and we still have Gift and Orlando for the 4/5 which is plenty this season.
I want both Chandler & Chris and that is not being greedy that is just what we need bad. IMO Orlando seems more like a 3/4. I am just tired of getting killed on the boards when we play elite teams & getting no easy points in the post. Thank god , Big East lost a lot of their quality Bigs this year, so maybe a lack of a big man won't hurt us as much this year.
Just hope we can get a good C in 2013 or it will be very hard to turn the corner.
Also if Chris doesn't want to play here definitely don't want him here!
It amazes me how restless people get when a kid doesn't commit here. We are not getting both Chandler and Obekpa.. and even though it would be nice.. we don't need both. Yesterday the staff officially announces the addition of 6 players... and you are worried that " it will be very hard to turn the corner" Patience :)
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I am not getting restless I just appreciate Chris's game and wanted him on the roster. Felt like he filled a void and balanced out the roster. You can never have a enough big men playing in the NCAA with 5 fouls especially after losing our best interior player and rebounder.
Chandler and Chris would make us a top 10 squad by season end. Would see no weakness.
You said we don't need both? Is that to win an NCAA championship or to win the NIT title?
We don't need both.. It would be great.. But it isn't happening... Not trying to be negative but if you think getting both would get us to a NCAA title or a top 10 ranking this year .. Well then you are drinking :). Baby steps with this team IMO. If we could slip into the tourney and hover outside the top 25 , then I think we would all be pleased and admit that could be realistic.
I don't think we could win it all. What I meant by top 10 squad is we could be a sweet 16 or elite 8 team. I think this up coming season the talent is really spread out and the Big East is down. With two top 100 Bigs we could of finish 2nd in the Big East behind Ville and be a top 10 squad by season end!
My question is with Chris out, and if Chandler doesn't qualify what do we do? I don't think we can even make the NIT without a adding another Big man.
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Fair played over Christmas and Keita because he's better than both of them. As the season wore on, they inserted Christmas into the starting line up, but was only because Melo is a complete nice person.
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Fair played over Christmas and Keita because he's better than both of them. As the season wore on, they inserted Christmas into the starting line up, but was only because Melo is a complete nice person.
Christmas started every game last year. He might not have averaged as many minutes but he started every game.
http://www.suathletics.com/roster.aspx?rp_id=8630 (http://www.suathletics.com/roster.aspx?rp_id=8630)
Freshman Year: Has started every game this season
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Fair played over Christmas and Keita because he's better than both of them. As the season wore on, they inserted Christmas into the starting line up, but was only because Melo is a complete nice person.
Christmas started every game last year. He might not have averaged as many minutes but he started every game.
http://www.suathletics.com/roster.aspx?rp_id=8630 (http://www.suathletics.com/roster.aspx?rp_id=8630)
Freshman Year: Has started every game this season
My bad you're right. I guess I just remember Fair playing all over the court last year. I think Garrett could develop like that. Fair will make one of the All BE teams next season.
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Do you think Chris will have a hard time selecting a major? LOL This is like War and Peace!
“@AdamZagoria: All signs point to 6-9 Chris Obekpa of Our Savior New American landing at Cincinnati, multiple sources told @SNYtv.Today is last signing day”
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Why not just pick a school already? Why so indecisive?
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If he hasn't picked a school yet, perhaps there's a eligibility issue at play here (academic or otherwise)
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If he hasn't picked a school yet, perhaps there's a eligibility issue at play here (academic or otherwise)
Its possible but all signs point to that not being the likely case. He's getting pulled in too many directions.
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If he hasn't picked a school yet, perhaps there's a eligibility issue at play here (academic or otherwise)
Its possible but all signs point to that not being the likely case. He's getting pulled in too many directions.
Very strange that he did not sign a LOI
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Well the Dead Period starts today thru next Saturday. No off or on campus recruiting.
And I think he still wants to take a trip to Oregon even though he is expected to sign with Cincy. Apparently he is having trouble setting up the visit and now he cannot visit even if he wants to so I guess he is just waiting out the Dead period before he can then take the Oregon visit thus delaying his ultimate decision.
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Was matched up against the kid mike Amaan at is8 and was dunking all over him. Mike is a nice clever player to his credit though
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Was matched up against the kid mike Amaan at is8 and was dunking all over him. Mike is a nice clever player to his credit though
Amaan won the tip too. Obekpa has NO hops...you can barely slide a piece of paper under his vertical. He has horrible hands, too...and I can't even watch his teammate #22.
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Was matched up against the kid mike Amaan at is8 and was dunking all over him. Mike is a nice clever player to his credit though
Amaan won the tip too. Obekpa has NO hops...you can barely slide a piece of paper under his vertical. He has horrible hands, too...and I can't even watch his teammate #22.
Yeah, I always thought obekpa was a much better athlete than I've seen in some of these vids. He's really the shotblocker he is by way of fantastic timing. That is a skill in and of itself. He's not a complete player by any means. I'd take Mike Chandler any day over Obekpa. Scary thing is that from what I've seen lately, Balamou is in no way the lesser player between the two, regardless of position. Pretty sure the staff saw the same thing a while back which is why Balamou is signed.
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Was matched up against the kid mike Amaan at is8 and was dunking all over him. Mike is a nice clever player to his credit though
Amaan won the tip too. Obekpa has NO hops...you can barely slide a piece of paper under his vertical. He has horrible hands, too...and I can't even watch his teammate #22.
Yeah, I always thought obekpa was a much better athlete than I've seen in some of these vids. He's really the shotblocker he is by way of fantastic timing. That is a skill in and of itself. He's not a complete player by any means. I'd take Mike Chandler any day over Obekpa. Scary thing is that from what I've seen lately, Balamou is in no way the lesser player between the two, regardless of position. Pretty sure the staff saw the same thing a while back which is why Balamou is signed.
Balamou is the best player on that team. Period. Most of Obekpa's blocks come off out of control D-2 slashers from the looks of it. I haven't seen anybody shot-fake him ever LOL. He's perfect for Cincy...Cronin makes it ugly and Obekpa will do that on both ends. His length is just ridiculous. He's going to be a pain in the arse to play against, but I thnk he'd be a pain in the arse to watch for four years fumbling the ball on offense.
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Was matched up against the kid mike Amaan at is8 and was dunking all over him. Mike is a nice clever player to his credit though
Amaan won the tip too. Obekpa has NO hops...you can barely slide a piece of paper under his vertical. He has horrible hands, too...and I can't even watch his teammate #22.
Yeah, I always thought obekpa was a much better athlete than I've seen in some of these vids. He's really the shotblocker he is by way of fantastic timing. That is a skill in and of itself. He's not a complete player by any means. I'd take Mike Chandler any day over Obekpa. Scary thing is that from what I've seen lately, Balamou is in no way the lesser player between the two, regardless of position. Pretty sure the staff saw the same thing a while back which is why Balamou is signed.
Balamou is the best player on that team. Period. Most of Obekpa's blocks come off out of control D-2 slashers from the looks of it. I haven't seen anybody shot-fake him ever LOL. He's perfect for Cincy...Cronin makes it ugly and Obekpa will do that on both ends. His length is just ridiculous. He's going to be a pain in the arse to play against, but I thnk he'd be a pain in the arse to watch for four years fumbling the ball on offense.
I think a guy like Chandler with his post moves would be going to the foul line a lot against a guy like Obekpa.
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Was matched up against the kid mike Amaan at is8 and was dunking all over him. Mike is a nice clever player to his credit though
Amaan won the tip too. Obekpa has NO hops...you can barely slide a piece of paper under his vertical. He has horrible hands, too...and I can't even watch his teammate #22.
Yeah, I always thought obekpa was a much better athlete than I've seen in some of these vids. He's really the shotblocker he is by way of fantastic timing. That is a skill in and of itself. He's not a complete player by any means. I'd take Mike Chandler any day over Obekpa. Scary thing is that from what I've seen lately, Balamou is in no way the lesser player between the two, regardless of position. Pretty sure the staff saw the same thing a while back which is why Balamou is signed.
Balamou is the best player on that team. Period. Most of Obekpa's blocks come off out of control D-2 slashers from the looks of it. I haven't seen anybody shot-fake him ever LOL. He's perfect for Cincy...Cronin makes it ugly and Obekpa will do that on both ends. His length is just ridiculous. He's going to be a pain in the arse to play against, but I thnk he'd be a pain in the arse to watch for four years fumbling the ball on offense.
I think a guy like Chandler with his post moves would be going to the foul line a lot against a guy like Obekpa.
There is no comparison between Chandler and Obekpa. Chandler is a legit 5 and if he progresses in a college atmosphere has first round talent. Obekpa is a rotation guy who may start as an upper classman.
If there wasn't such a lack of post defenders, Obekpa would not be such a big deal to several programs.
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I'm sorry but I'm going to say it.
If Obekpa was still a consideration these posts would be talking about him oozing potential. Now all of a sudden he can't jump over the phone book, worst hands since Sean Evans and offensive liability.
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I'm sorry but I'm going to say it.
If Obekpa was still a consideration these posts would be talking about him oozing potential. Now all of a sudden he can't jump over the phone book, worst hands since Sean Evans and offensive liability.
Of course. Hysterical
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I'm sorry but I'm going to say it.
If Obekpa was still a consideration these posts would be talking about him oozing potential. Now all of a sudden he can't jump over the phone book, worst hands since Sean Evans and offensive liability.
Exactly. Obekpa would play big minutes for SJU next year. It is not the end of the world if he does not come to SJU but at the same time I am not going to suddenly start pretending the guy would have no impact at SJU until maybe his junior year, that is not fair at all.
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Cue Bobre to defend Evans hands , blaming Lavin and Norm and... and . ..and
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Spot on, Moose. Would be interesting to pull some posts from our scouts on Obekpa from say two+ months ago.
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I'm sorry but I'm going to say it.
If Obekpa was still a consideration these posts would be talking about him oozing potential. Now all of a sudden he can't jump over the phone book, worst hands since Sean Evans and offensive liability.
I saw Chandler play in person one time and I was very impressed. I am not saying Obekpa is not going to be a solid college player but I do think you will see him scoring very little and I am not sure his rebounding numbers are going to be great.
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I'm sorry but I'm going to say it.
If Obekpa was still a consideration these posts would be talking about him oozing potential. Now all of a sudden he can't jump over the phone book, worst hands since Sean Evans and offensive liability.
I saw Chandler play in person one time and I was very impressed. I am not saying Obekpa is not going to be a solid college player but I do think you will see him scoring very little and I am not sure his rebounding numbers are going to be great.
I'm not comparing Chandler to Obekpa. But all we heard from our fans all year is how we need defensive presence down low, a game changer who can block and alter shots. I've seen Obekpa and he is that. Now all of a sudden the blemishes are being blown up. Its just too atypical. A player is a player regardless of what school he chooses when I look at him. I said from the beginning nothing more than 5.7 ppg, 4.4 rpg, 1.9 ppg would be tremendous. And for those who don't remember that is Dieng's freshman season numbers from Lville. Soph year with proper coaching he improved to the tune of 9.1, 9.1 and 3.2 respectively.
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I'm sorry but I'm going to say it.
If Obekpa was still a consideration these posts would be talking about him oozing potential. Now all of a sudden he can't jump over the phone book, worst hands since Sean Evans and offensive liability.
I saw Chandler play in person one time and I was very impressed. I am not saying Obekpa is not going to be a solid college player but I do think you will see him scoring very little and I am not sure his rebounding numbers are going to be great.
I'm not comparing Chandler to Obekpa. But all we heard from our fans all year is how we need defensive presence down low, a game changer who can block and alter shots. I've seen Obekpa and he is that. Now all of a sudden the blemishes are being blown up. Its just too atypical. A player is a player regardless of what school he chooses when I look at him. I said from the beginning nothing more than 5.7 ppg, 4.4 rpg, 1.9 ppg would be tremendous. And for those who don't remember that is Dieng's freshman season numbers from Lville. Soph year with proper coaching he improved to the tune of 9.1, 9.1 and 3.2 respectively.
Oh OK
I love Obekpa's shot blocking ability which St Johns has not had in years. I just think he is a rotation guy on a good team. In no way was I saying that I ddin't or wouldn't want him. Chandler is better though but who knows if he will ever play an NCAA game.
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I'm not saying I don't like Obekpa. I certainly do and wld love a guy like him at SJU. Was just saying I like Chandler better. The point about his hops is just interesting as most shotblockers rely on a significant vertical. Obekpa's timing is second to none at the defensive end.
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As soon as I saw Felix and Opekba play on youtube. which was about the time Felix committed and we were still well in the hunt for opekba, I said Felix was the better player. The more I watch Opekba the less I think of him. And it has nothing to do with him not coming here.
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I'm sorry but I'm going to say it.
If Obekpa was still a consideration these posts would be talking about him oozing potential. Now all of a sudden he can't jump over the phone book, worst hands since Sean Evans and offensive liability.
Happens all the time of these boards. Funny kinda.
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Who cares if he can score at all? If he blocks 8 shots per game, he won't need to.
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Who cares if he can score at all? If he blocks 8 shots per game, he won't need to.
seems plausible
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I'm sorry but I'm going to say it.
If Obekpa was still a consideration these posts would be talking about him oozing potential. Now all of a sudden he can't jump over the phone book, worst hands since Sean Evans and offensive liability.
Amen man! Our objectivity is surely lacking at times!!
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Yea shot blocking is so important because your not even counting the shots the shot blocker is altering. And why has this become Chandler Vs Chris when one is a PF and one is a true 5. We still need both if we wanted to compete for the title in 2 years IMO
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Yea shot blocking is so important because your not even counting the shots the shot blocker is altering. And why has this become Chandler Vs Chris when one is a PF and one is a true 5. We still need both if we wanted to compete for the title in 2 years IMO
Well I don't think one is a PF and the other is a center. They are both centers.
And we can forget about both because Obekpa is not coming here :)
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I don't think there is much NOT true about what people are saying of Obekpa's abilities. He has other-worldly defensive ability which can alter an opponent's game plan and he has D2 or D3 offensive skills at this point.
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I don't think there is much NOT true about what people are saying of Obekpa's abilities. He has other-worldly defensive ability which can alter an opponent's game plan and he has D2 or D3 offensive skills at this point.
D2 or D3 offensive skills.
Come on.
Nobody would be highly sought after or ranked as high if your evaluation was in fact true.
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I don't think there is much NOT true about what people are saying of Obekpa's abilities. He has other-worldly defensive ability which can alter an opponent's game plan and he has D2 or D3 offensive skills at this point.
D2 or D3 offensive skills.
Come on.
Nobody would be highly sought after or ranked as high if your evaluation was in fact true.
never seen him make a post move
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I don't think there is much NOT true about what people are saying of Obekpa's abilities. He has other-worldly defensive ability which can alter an opponent's game plan and he has D2 or D3 offensive skills at this point.
D2 or D3 offensive skills.
Come on.
Nobody would be highly sought after or ranked as high if your evaluation was in fact true.
never seen him make a post move
Again D2 or D3. Think about that statement. That means offensively he's worse than the Center of NJIT.
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I don't think there is much NOT true about what people are saying of Obekpa's abilities. He has other-worldly defensive ability which can alter an opponent's game plan and he has D2 or D3 offensive skills at this point.
D2 or D3 offensive skills.
Come on.
Nobody would be highly sought after or ranked as high if your evaluation was in fact true.
I've watched two full games on basketball diary youtube, and he is god awful offensively. Not sure there was one pass he didn't bobble or drop, and once he brings the ball down, it's almost an automatic turnover. I think D2 or D3 offensive skill is a fair evaluation.
Defensively it's another story. From what I've seen, he has to be the best shot blocker/post defender in the entire 2012 class.
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I don't think there is much NOT true about what people are saying of Obekpa's abilities. He has other-worldly defensive ability which can alter an opponent's game plan and he has D2 or D3 offensive skills at this point.
D2 or D3 offensive skills.
Come on.
Nobody would be highly sought after or ranked as high if your evaluation was in fact true.
I've watched two full games on basketball diary youtube, and he is god awful offensively. Not sure there was one pass he didn't bobble or drop, and once he brings the ball down, it's almost an automatic turnover. I think D2 or D3 offensive skill is a fair evaluation.
Defensively it's another story. From what I've seen, he has to be the best shot blocker/post defender in the entire 2012 class.
I'm harping on the D2 or D3 thing because think about it. There are close to 350 schools in D1. They have 13 schollies each. Obekpa is the same as Dieng or any other offensively raw center who is new to the game of basketball.
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I don't think there is much NOT true about what people are saying of Obekpa's abilities. He has other-worldly defensive ability which can alter an opponent's game plan and he has D2 or D3 offensive skills at this point.
D2 or D3 offensive skills.
Come on.
Nobody would be highly sought after or ranked as high if your evaluation was in fact true.
never seen him make a post move
Again D2 or D3. Think about that statement. That means offensively he's worse than the Center of NJIT.
Do you not think there are D2 centers who are better offensively then him? I bet there are plenty
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I don't think there is much NOT true about what people are saying of Obekpa's abilities. He has other-worldly defensive ability which can alter an opponent's game plan and he has D2 or D3 offensive skills at this point.
D2 or D3 offensive skills.
Come on.
Nobody would be highly sought after or ranked as high if your evaluation was in fact true.
I've watched two full games on basketball diary youtube, and he is god awful offensively. Not sure there was one pass he didn't bobble or drop, and once he brings the ball down, it's almost an automatic turnover. I think D2 or D3 offensive skill is a fair evaluation.
Defensively it's another story. From what I've seen, he has to be the best shot blocker/post defender in the entire 2012 class.
I'm harping on the D2 or D3 thing because think about it. There are close to 350 schools in D1. They have 13 schollies each. Obekpa is the same as Dieng or any other offensively raw center who is new to the game of basketball.
Exactly Moose! Rest assured he would quickly be elevated to D1 status the moment we signed him. Objectivity is a lost art!
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I don't think there is much NOT true about what people are saying of Obekpa's abilities. He has other-worldly defensive ability which can alter an opponent's game plan and he has D2 or D3 offensive skills at this point.
D2 or D3 offensive skills.
Come on.
Nobody would be highly sought after or ranked as high if your evaluation was in fact true.
I've watched two full games on basketball diary youtube, and he is god awful offensively. Not sure there was one pass he didn't bobble or drop, and once he brings the ball down, it's almost an automatic turnover. I think D2 or D3 offensive skill is a fair evaluation.
Defensively it's another story. From what I've seen, he has to be the best shot blocker/post defender in the entire 2012 class.
I'm harping on the D2 or D3 thing because think about it. There are close to 350 schools in D1. They have 13 schollies each. Obekpa is the same as Dieng or any other offensively raw center who is new to the game of basketball.
I just think there are plenty of D2 centers who are decent offensively (better than Obekpa), but don't have the athletic ability/size/rebounding/defensive ability to play D1.
Obekpa has huge upside, don't get me wrong, but right now, his offensive skills are extremely below average. He already has enough defensive skill to get major minutes for most teams in the country.
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I don't think there is much NOT true about what people are saying of Obekpa's abilities. He has other-worldly defensive ability which can alter an opponent's game plan and he has D2 or D3 offensive skills at this point.
D2 or D3 offensive skills.
Come on.
Nobody would be highly sought after or ranked as high if your evaluation was in fact true.
never seen him make a post move
Again D2 or D3. Think about that statement. That means offensively he's worse than the Center of NJIT.
Do you not think there are D2 centers who are better offensively then him? I bet there are plenty
Then why aren't they in D1?
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I don't think there is much NOT true about what people are saying of Obekpa's abilities. He has other-worldly defensive ability which can alter an opponent's game plan and he has D2 or D3 offensive skills at this point.
D2 or D3 offensive skills.
Come on.
Nobody would be highly sought after or ranked as high if your evaluation was in fact true.
I've watched two full games on basketball diary youtube, and he is god awful offensively. Not sure there was one pass he didn't bobble or drop, and once he brings the ball down, it's almost an automatic turnover. I think D2 or D3 offensive skill is a fair evaluation.
Defensively it's another story. From what I've seen, he has to be the best shot blocker/post defender in the entire 2012 class.
I'm harping on the D2 or D3 thing because think about it. There are close to 350 schools in D1. They have 13 schollies each. Obekpa is the same as Dieng or any other offensively raw center who is new to the game of basketball.
I just think there are plenty of D2 centers who are decent offensively (better than Obekpa), but don't have the athletic ability/size/rebounding/defensive ability to play D1.
Obekpa has huge upside, don't get me wrong, but right now, his offensive skills are extremely below average. He already has enough defensive skill to get major minutes for most teams in the country.
So if Obekpa plays next year and averages 5 ppg which is not a lot by any stretch of the imagination. That is 2-3 putbacks a game. Now if you want a center with post moves, no he isn't that. But some of those D2 centers you and Mase are talking about don't have the quickness, speed or raw tools to use those skills at the D1 level. 1st year stats like that would put him on par with most centers including a very close comparable who lead his team soph year to the FF in Dieng.
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What is the point?? Chris Obepka would be the biggest d2 or d3 recruit in history. I can think of plenty of d1 centers who are limited offensively. In fact some have played for our team in recent memory. For the posters who are catching a glimpse of him via the Internet Is8 videos...keep in mind that the gym is a band box. It is a complete guard gym. Oh and another thing... HE ISN'T COMING HERE!
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I don't think there is much NOT true about what people are saying of Obekpa's abilities. He has other-worldly defensive ability which can alter an opponent's game plan and he has D2 or D3 offensive skills at this point.
D2 or D3 offensive skills.
Come on.
Nobody would be highly sought after or ranked as high if your evaluation was in fact true.
I've watched two full games on basketball diary youtube, and he is god awful offensively. Not sure there was one pass he didn't bobble or drop, and once he brings the ball down, it's almost an automatic turnover. I think D2 or D3 offensive skill is a fair evaluation.
Defensively it's another story. From what I've seen, he has to be the best shot blocker/post defender in the entire 2012 class.
I'm harping on the D2 or D3 thing because think about it. There are close to 350 schools in D1. They have 13 schollies each. Obekpa is the same as Dieng or any other offensively raw center who is new to the game of basketball.
I just think there are plenty of D2 centers who are decent offensively (better than Obekpa), but don't have the athletic ability/size/rebounding/defensive ability to play D1.
Obekpa has huge upside, don't get me wrong, but right now, his offensive skills are extremely below average. He already has enough defensive skill to get major minutes for most teams in the country.
So if Obekpa plays next year and averages 5 ppg which is not a lot by any stretch of the imagination. That is 2-3 putbacks a game. Now if you want a center with post moves, no he isn't that. But some of those D2 centers you and Mase are talking about don't have the quickness, speed or raw tools to use those skills at the D1 level. 1st year stats like that would put him on par with most centers including a very close comparable who lead his team soph year to the FF in Dieng.
I'm talking strictly offensive skills. A D2 center, who lets say scores 15ppg in D2, would score 5ppg in D1 too if given major minutes, but would be a huge liability on the court in all areas. Obekpa is an offensive liability but he makes up for it in other areas.
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I don't think there is much NOT true about what people are saying of Obekpa's abilities. He has other-worldly defensive ability which can alter an opponent's game plan and he has D2 or D3 offensive skills at this point.
D2 or D3 offensive skills.
Come on.
Nobody would be highly sought after or ranked as high if your evaluation was in fact true.
I've watched two full games on basketball diary youtube, and he is god awful offensively. Not sure there was one pass he didn't bobble or drop, and once he brings the ball down, it's almost an automatic turnover. I think D2 or D3 offensive skill is a fair evaluation.
Defensively it's another story. From what I've seen, he has to be the best shot blocker/post defender in the entire 2012 class.
I'm harping on the D2 or D3 thing because think about it. There are close to 350 schools in D1. They have 13 schollies each. Obekpa is the same as Dieng or any other offensively raw center who is new to the game of basketball.
I just think there are plenty of D2 centers who are decent offensively (better than Obekpa), but don't have the athletic ability/size/rebounding/defensive ability to play D1.
Obekpa has huge upside, don't get me wrong, but right now, his offensive skills are extremely below average. He already has enough defensive skill to get major minutes for most teams in the country.
So if Obekpa plays next year and averages 5 ppg which is not a lot by any stretch of the imagination. That is 2-3 putbacks a game. Now if you want a center with post moves, no he isn't that. But some of those D2 centers you and Mase are talking about don't have the quickness, speed or raw tools to use those skills at the D1 level. 1st year stats like that would put him on par with most centers including a very close comparable who lead his team soph year to the FF in Dieng.
I think Dieng is a bit better than Obekpa on offense. I don't think anybody here's denigrating Obekpa's game because he's not coming here. I think it's that people are seeing a lot more good footage of him watching those basketballdiary games. I can tell you that I see a lot more of Felix too. Nobody is saying anything different about Obekpa's Defensive prowess. I just think people are seeing some of the lack of offense, hands and athleticism that many thought he had prior to seeing soo much of him.
Rico Gathers committed to another school and under questionable circumstances. Nobody on these boards ripping his game. Nobody ripping Kyle Anderson's game. I think some of the criticism of Obekpa's game is on-point and not because we aren't going to land him. Just more viewable footage and great quality footage nonetheless.
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I don't think there is much NOT true about what people are saying of Obekpa's abilities. He has other-worldly defensive ability which can alter an opponent's game plan and he has D2 or D3 offensive skills at this point.
D2 or D3 offensive skills.
Come on.
Nobody would be highly sought after or ranked as high if your evaluation was in fact true.
I've watched two full games on basketball diary youtube, and he is god awful offensively. Not sure there was one pass he didn't bobble or drop, and once he brings the ball down, it's almost an automatic turnover. I think D2 or D3 offensive skill is a fair evaluation.
Defensively it's another story. From what I've seen, he has to be the best shot blocker/post defender in the entire 2012 class.
I'm harping on the D2 or D3 thing because think about it. There are close to 350 schools in D1. They have 13 schollies each. Obekpa is the same as Dieng or any other offensively raw center who is new to the game of basketball.
I just think there are plenty of D2 centers who are decent offensively (better than Obekpa), but don't have the athletic ability/size/rebounding/defensive ability to play D1.
Obekpa has huge upside, don't get me wrong, but right now, his offensive skills are extremely below average. He already has enough defensive skill to get major minutes for most teams in the country.
So if Obekpa plays next year and averages 5 ppg which is not a lot by any stretch of the imagination. That is 2-3 putbacks a game. Now if you want a center with post moves, no he isn't that. But some of those D2 centers you and Mase are talking about don't have the quickness, speed or raw tools to use those skills at the D1 level. 1st year stats like that would put him on par with most centers including a very close comparable who lead his team soph year to the FF in Dieng.
I think Dieng is a bit better than Obekpa on offense. I don't think anybody here's denigrating Obekpa's game because he's not coming here. I think it's that people are seeing a lot more good footage of him watching those basketballdiary games. I can tell you that I see a lot more of Felix too. Nobody is saying anything different about Obekpa's Defensive prowess. I just think people are seeing some of the lack of offense, hands and athleticism that many thought he had prior to seeing soo much of him.
Rico Gathers committed to another school and under questionable circumstances. Nobody on these boards ripping his game. Nobody ripping Kyle Anderson's game. I think some of the criticism of Obekpa's game is on-point and not because we aren't going to land him. Just more viewable footage and great quality footage nonetheless.
Suspect if you saw Dieng in HS, you may see similar players. Wonder why UConn, Cinci, Oregon and Providence wanted to develop this Wabash, Transylvania, NYU level stiff?
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I don't think there is much NOT true about what people are saying of Obekpa's abilities. He has other-worldly defensive ability which can alter an opponent's game plan and he has D2 or D3 offensive skills at this point.
D2 or D3 offensive skills.
Come on.
Nobody would be highly sought after or ranked as high if your evaluation was in fact true.
never seen him make a post move
Again D2 or D3. Think about that statement. That means offensively he's worse than the Center of NJIT.
Do you not think there are D2 centers who are better offensively then him? I bet there are plenty
Then why aren't they in D1?
Not as tall, athletic and most importantly dont have an elite skill such as Opekba's shot blocking.
Would I take him here? Yes. Would I take him over chandler or nolan? No.
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I don't think there is much NOT true about what people are saying of Obekpa's abilities. He has other-worldly defensive ability which can alter an opponent's game plan and he has D2 or D3 offensive skills at this point.
D2 or D3 offensive skills.
Come on.
Nobody would be highly sought after or ranked as high if your evaluation was in fact true.
never seen him make a post move
Again D2 or D3. Think about that statement. That means offensively he's worse than the Center of NJIT.
Do you not think there are D2 centers who are better offensively then him? I bet there are plenty
Then why aren't they in D1?
Not as tall, athletic and most importantly dont have an elite skill such as Opekba's shot blocking.
Would I take him here? Yes. Would I take him over chandler or nolan? No.
Who ever said take him over someone?
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I don't think there is much NOT true about what people are saying of Obekpa's abilities. He has other-worldly defensive ability which can alter an opponent's game plan and he has D2 or D3 offensive skills at this point.
D2 or D3 offensive skills.
Come on.
Nobody would be highly sought after or ranked as high if your evaluation was in fact true.
I've watched two full games on basketball diary youtube, and he is god awful offensively. Not sure there was one pass he didn't bobble or drop, and once he brings the ball down, it's almost an automatic turnover. I think D2 or D3 offensive skill is a fair evaluation.
Defensively it's another story. From what I've seen, he has to be the best shot blocker/post defender in the entire 2012 class.
I'm harping on the D2 or D3 thing because think about it. There are close to 350 schools in D1. They have 13 schollies each. Obekpa is the same as Dieng or any other offensively raw center who is new to the game of basketball.
I just think there are plenty of D2 centers who are decent offensively (better than Obekpa), but don't have the athletic ability/size/rebounding/defensive ability to play D1.
Obekpa has huge upside, don't get me wrong, but right now, his offensive skills are extremely below average. He already has enough defensive skill to get major minutes for most teams in the country.
So if Obekpa plays next year and averages 5 ppg which is not a lot by any stretch of the imagination. That is 2-3 putbacks a game. Now if you want a center with post moves, no he isn't that. But some of those D2 centers you and Mase are talking about don't have the quickness, speed or raw tools to use those skills at the D1 level. 1st year stats like that would put him on par with most centers including a very close comparable who lead his team soph year to the FF in Dieng.
I think Dieng is a bit better than Obekpa on offense. I don't think anybody here's denigrating Obekpa's game because he's not coming here. I think it's that people are seeing a lot more good footage of him watching those basketballdiary games. I can tell you that I see a lot more of Felix too. Nobody is saying anything different about Obekpa's Defensive prowess. I just think people are seeing some of the lack of offense, hands and athleticism that many thought he had prior to seeing soo much of him.
Rico Gathers committed to another school and under questionable circumstances. Nobody on these boards ripping his game. Nobody ripping Kyle Anderson's game. I think some of the criticism of Obekpa's game is on-point and not because we aren't going to land him. Just more viewable footage and great quality footage nonetheless.
Marcus
You have been around here long enough. This is par for the course. And ppl did then take shots at Kyle and Rico when they chose other schools. It's the nature of the beast. But when someone says a Top 100 player has a D2 or D3 offensive game it's downright irresponsible. I can think of some others players on this team with more question marks on offense. Are they D2 level too?
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I don't think there is much NOT true about what people are saying of Obekpa's abilities. He has other-worldly defensive ability which can alter an opponent's game plan and he has D2 or D3 offensive skills at this point.
D2 or D3 offensive skills.
Come on.
Nobody would be highly sought after or ranked as high if your evaluation was in fact true.
I've watched two full games on basketball diary youtube, and he is god awful offensively. Not sure there was one pass he didn't bobble or drop, and once he brings the ball down, it's almost an automatic turnover. I think D2 or D3 offensive skill is a fair evaluation.
Defensively it's another story. From what I've seen, he has to be the best shot blocker/post defender in the entire 2012 class.
I'm harping on the D2 or D3 thing because think about it. There are close to 350 schools in D1. They have 13 schollies each. Obekpa is the same as Dieng or any other offensively raw center who is new to the game of basketball.
I just think there are plenty of D2 centers who are decent offensively (better than Obekpa), but don't have the athletic ability/size/rebounding/defensive ability to play D1.
Obekpa has huge upside, don't get me wrong, but right now, his offensive skills are extremely below average. He already has enough defensive skill to get major minutes for most teams in the country.
So if Obekpa plays next year and averages 5 ppg which is not a lot by any stretch of the imagination. That is 2-3 putbacks a game. Now if you want a center with post moves, no he isn't that. But some of those D2 centers you and Mase are talking about don't have the quickness, speed or raw tools to use those skills at the D1 level. 1st year stats like that would put him on par with most centers including a very close comparable who lead his team soph year to the FF in Dieng.
I think Dieng is a bit better than Obekpa on offense. I don't think anybody here's denigrating Obekpa's game because he's not coming here. I think it's that people are seeing a lot more good footage of him watching those basketballdiary games. I can tell you that I see a lot more of Felix too. Nobody is saying anything different about Obekpa's Defensive prowess. I just think people are seeing some of the lack of offense, hands and athleticism that many thought he had prior to seeing soo much of him.
Rico Gathers committed to another school and under questionable circumstances. Nobody on these boards ripping his game. Nobody ripping Kyle Anderson's game. I think some of the criticism of Obekpa's game is on-point and not because we aren't going to land him. Just more viewable footage and great quality footage nonetheless.
Marcus
You have been around here long enough. This is par for the course. And ppl did then take shots at Kyle and Rico when they chose other schools. It's the nature of the beast. But when someone says a Top 100 player has a D2 or D3 offensive game it's downright irresponsible. I can think of some others players on this team with more question marks on offense. Are they D2 level too?
Stith was.
No one is saying Obekpa is a D2 player.
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I don't think there is much NOT true about what people are saying of Obekpa's abilities. He has other-worldly defensive ability which can alter an opponent's game plan and he has D2 or D3 offensive skills at this point.
D2 or D3 offensive skills.
Come on.
Nobody would be highly sought after or ranked as high if your evaluation was in fact true.
I've watched two full games on basketball diary youtube, and he is god awful offensively. Not sure there was one pass he didn't bobble or drop, and once he brings the ball down, it's almost an automatic turnover. I think D2 or D3 offensive skill is a fair evaluation.
Defensively it's another story. From what I've seen, he has to be the best shot blocker/post defender in the entire 2012 class.
I'm harping on the D2 or D3 thing because think about it. There are close to 350 schools in D1. They have 13 schollies each. Obekpa is the same as Dieng or any other offensively raw center who is new to the game of basketball.
I just think there are plenty of D2 centers who are decent offensively (better than Obekpa), but don't have the athletic ability/size/rebounding/defensive ability to play D1.
Obekpa has huge upside, don't get me wrong, but right now, his offensive skills are extremely below average. He already has enough defensive skill to get major minutes for most teams in the country.
So if Obekpa plays next year and averages 5 ppg which is not a lot by any stretch of the imagination. That is 2-3 putbacks a game. Now if you want a center with post moves, no he isn't that. But some of those D2 centers you and Mase are talking about don't have the quickness, speed or raw tools to use those skills at the D1 level. 1st year stats like that would put him on par with most centers including a very close comparable who lead his team soph year to the FF in Dieng.
I think Dieng is a bit better than Obekpa on offense. I don't think anybody here's denigrating Obekpa's game because he's not coming here. I think it's that people are seeing a lot more good footage of him watching those basketballdiary games. I can tell you that I see a lot more of Felix too. Nobody is saying anything different about Obekpa's Defensive prowess. I just think people are seeing some of the lack of offense, hands and athleticism that many thought he had prior to seeing soo much of him.
Rico Gathers committed to another school and under questionable circumstances. Nobody on these boards ripping his game. Nobody ripping Kyle Anderson's game. I think some of the criticism of Obekpa's game is on-point and not because we aren't going to land him. Just more viewable footage and great quality footage nonetheless.
Marcus
You have been around here long enough. This is par for the course. And ppl did then take shots at Kyle and Rico when they chose other schools. It's the nature of the beast. But when someone says a Top 100 player has a D2 or D3 offensive game it's downright irresponsible. I can think of some others players on this team with more question marks on offense. Are they D2 level too?
Stith was.
No one is saying Obekpa is a D2 player.
People just don't get the talent difference between levels. Malik Stith is most definetly a division 1 basketball player. Not a Big East player.. But he would be ok at the mid level.
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This may be a bad example, but look at Tim Tebow.
His arm is very below average, certainly not NFL caliber, but he makes up for it in other areas (mobility, toughness, leadership), which makes him serviceable. If he was not mobile, he would not be in the NFL, and most likely not a D1 college QB.
If Obekpa wasn't such a great defender, he's be looking for a D2 school or JUCO to play for.
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This may be a bad example, but look at Tim Tebow.
His arm is very below average, certainly not NFL caliber, but he makes up for it in other areas (mobility, toughness, leadership), which makes him serviceable. If he was not mobile, he would not be in the NFL, and most likely not a D1 college QB.
If Obekpa wasn't such a great defender, he's be looking for a D2 school or JUCO to play for.
Absurd.. A typical center or forward in D2 is usually about 6'6.
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I'm sorry but I'm going to say it.
If Obekpa was still a consideration these posts would be talking about him oozing potential. Now all of a sudden he can't jump over the phone book, worst hands since Sean Evans and offensive liability.
LOL I hate when posters do that. I think Obekpa is perfect for our zone defensively, I was just posting observations. The kids vertical is not there (which is surprising) and he fumbles everything he touches. I don't want to play against the kid, because he has the capability to send back 10 shots--and with our experience with shot-blockers, he will.
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I'm sorry but I'm going to say it.
If Obekpa was still a consideration these posts would be talking about him oozing potential. Now all of a sudden he can't jump over the phone book, worst hands since Sean Evans and offensive liability.
LOL I hate when posters do that. I think Obekpa is perfect for our zone defensively, I was just posting observations. The kids vertical is not there (which is surprising) and he fumbles everything he touches. I don't want to play against the kid, because he has the capability to send back 10 shots--and with our experience with shot-blockers, he will.
But he's a D2 center so we won't see him, don't worry.
Coach Casey is gonna snatch him up. Thats why he hasn't popped for Cincy or Oregon yet.
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This may be a bad example, but look at Tim Tebow.
His arm is very below average, certainly not NFL caliber, but he makes up for it in other areas (mobility, toughness, leadership), which makes him serviceable. If he was not mobile, he would not be in the NFL, and most likely not a D1 college QB.
If Obekpa wasn't such a great defender, he's be looking for a D2 school or JUCO to play for.
Absurd.. A typical center or forward in D2 is usually about 6'6.
All I'm saying is his offense is horrible. I've seen D2 ball, and there are plenty of big men who are crafty around the basket and know how to put the ball in the hoop way better than Obekpa, they just don't have many other things that make up a D1 player. And they can catch an entry pass. Obekpa is very raw, he could eventually become a decent or even a very good offensive player, but right now he's far from it. I don't know how anyone can watch Obekpa offensively and say he's on par with other D1 centers.
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Center won't be getting the rock anyway.
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This may be a bad example, but look at Tim Tebow.
His arm is very below average, certainly not NFL caliber, but he makes up for it in other areas (mobility, toughness, leadership), which makes him serviceable. If he was not mobile, he would not be in the NFL, and most likely not a D1 college QB.
If Obekpa wasn't such a great defender, he's be looking for a D2 school or JUCO to play for.
Absurd.. A typical center or forward in D2 is usually about 6'6.
All I'm saying is his offense is horrible. I've seen D2 ball, and there are plenty of big men who are crafty around the basket and know how to put the ball in the hoop way better than Obekpa, they just don't have many other things that make up a D1 player. And they can catch an entry pass. Obekpa is very raw, he could eventually become a decent or even a very good offensive player, but right now he's far from it. I don't know how anyone can watch Obekpa offensively and say he's on par with other D1 centers.
This is silly.. You are right. Not only is he not better offensively than the 350 current division one centers.. But he is only good enough to be a D2 center if he didn't have his defensive skills. These are the evaluations that you made from a video. Smh
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This may be a bad example, but look at Tim Tebow.
His arm is very below average, certainly not NFL caliber, but he makes up for it in other areas (mobility, toughness, leadership), which makes him serviceable. If he was not mobile, he would not be in the NFL, and most likely not a D1 college QB.
If Obekpa wasn't such a great defender, he's be looking for a D2 school or JUCO to play for.
Absurd.. A typical center or forward in D2 is usually about 6'6.
All I'm saying is his offense is horrible. I've seen D2 ball, and there are plenty of big men who are crafty around the basket and know how to put the ball in the hoop way better than Obekpa, they just don't have many other things that make up a D1 player. And they can catch an entry pass. Obekpa is very raw, he could eventually become a decent or even a very good offensive player, but right now he's far from it. I don't know how anyone can watch Obekpa offensively and say he's on par with other D1 centers.
This is silly.. You are right. Not only is he not better offensively than the 350 current division one centers.. But he is only good enough to be a D2 center if he didn't have his defensive skills. These are the evaluations that you made from a video. Smh
I admit I haven't seen a lot of him. Two games. I watch quite a bit of basketball however, and know the difference between a good offensive player and a bad one. You act like I'm calling him a bad player. Far from it, it really sucks he's not coming here and I'm disappointed he's not. But the reason I'm disappointed is not because we'll be missing out on his offensive prowess.
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This may be a bad example, but look at Tim Tebow.
His arm is very below average, certainly not NFL caliber, but he makes up for it in other areas (mobility, toughness, leadership), which makes him serviceable. If he was not mobile, he would not be in the NFL, and most likely not a D1 college QB.
If Obekpa wasn't such a great defender, he's be looking for a D2 school or JUCO to play for.
Absurd.. A typical center or forward in D2 is usually about 6'6.
All I'm saying is his offense is horrible. I've seen D2 ball, and there are plenty of big men who are crafty around the basket and know how to put the ball in the hoop way better than Obekpa, they just don't have many other things that make up a D1 player. And they can catch an entry pass. Obekpa is very raw, he could eventually become a decent or even a very good offensive player, but right now he's far from it. I don't know how anyone can watch Obekpa offensively and say he's on par with other D1 centers.
This is silly.. You are right. Not only is he not better offensively than the 350 current division one centers.. But he is only good enough to be a D2 center if he didn't have his defensive skills. These are the evaluations that you made from a video. Smh
I admit I haven't seen a lot of him. Two games. I watch quite a bit of basketball however, and know the difference between a good offensive player and a bad one. You act like I'm calling him a bad player. Far from it, it really sucks he's not coming here and I'm disappointed he's not. But the reason I'm disappointed is not because we'll be missing out on his offensive prowess.
No Mas! The horse is dead man!
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I knew he sucked offensively for awhile now, but I couldn't post it
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Obekpa is the #15 rated center according to Rivals for 2012
Lets look at 2011
1. Norvel Pelle (ha no explanation needed)
2. Rakeem Christmas (CUSE) 2.8 ppg, 2.9 rpg, .8 big 11.5 mpg but did start every game pretty much
3. Adjehi Baru (Charleston) 7.8 ppg, 6.3 rpg. .7 bpg 26.7 mpg
4. Johnny O'Bryant (LSU) 8.4 ppg, 6.7 rpg, .8 bpg 21.4 mpg
5. Michael Chandler (ha no explanation here either)
6. Tyler Adams (GTOWN) 2.5 ppg, 2.3 rpg, .8 big, 6mpg (only played 3 games then sidelined due to heart issue)
7.Willy Kouassi (Auburn) 1.5 ppg, 2.6 rpg, .6bpg 10.2 mpg
8. Zach Price (LVILLE) .7 ppg, .9 rpg, .2 bpg 4.3 mpg
9. Angelo Chol (ZONA) 2.7 ppg, 2.2 rpg, .8 bpg, 12.1 mpg
10. Amir Williams (Ohio St) 1.7 ppg, 2.2 rpg, .8 bpg 6.6 mpg
11. Marshall Plumlee (Duke) REDSHIRTED
For shits and giggles lets throw his brothers in here.
Mason's 1st yr- 3.7 ppg, 3.1 rpg, .9 bpg, 14.1 mpg
Miles 1st yr- 1.8 ppg, 1.4 rpg, .5 bpg, 6.9 mpg
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12. Nick Jacobs (BAMA) 6.2 ppg, 3.6 rpg, .8 bpg, 19.2 mpg
13. Joseph Uchebo (Did not qualify)
14. Nnanna Egwu (Illinois) 1.9 ppg, 1.5 rpg, .6 bpg, 9.8 mpg
Egwu made me think of his teammate Meyers Leonard who is supposed to be a 1st rd caliber player this year in the Draft. Leonard went for 2.1 ppg, 1.2 rpg, .4 bpg in 8.2 mpg his first year. He then improved to the tune of 13.6 ppg, 8.2 rpg, 1.9 bpg in 31.8 mpg this year. Pretty nice YOY growth.
Finally the same position that Obekpa was this year
15. Malcolm Gilbert (PITT) .5 ppg, .9 rpg, .3 bpg 4.9 mpg
Now you think all these schools with most of these 'offensively challenged' big men, think they have D2 and D3 centers on their hands?
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I don't think there is much NOT true about what people are saying of Obekpa's abilities. He has other-worldly defensive ability which can alter an opponent's game plan and he has D2 or D3 offensive skills at this point.
D2 or D3 offensive skills.
Come on.
Nobody would be highly sought after or ranked as high if your evaluation was in fact true.
never seen him make a post move
Again D2 or D3. Think about that statement. That means offensively he's worse than the Center of NJIT.
Do you not think there are D2 centers who are better offensively then him? I bet there are plenty
Then why aren't they in D1?
Not as tall, athletic and most importantly dont have an elite skill such as Opekba's shot blocking.
Would I take him here? Yes. Would I take him over chandler or nolan? No.
Who ever said take him over someone?
Plenty of people said that a couple of us are saying "bad" things about him because he no longer is considering us. Im just saying that I would want him but that hes offensive skills are extremely lackluster for the D1 level.
Better? :)
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Obekpa is the #15 rated center according to Rivals for 2012
Lets look at 2011
1. Norvel Pelle (ha no explanation needed)
2. Rakeem Christmas (CUSE) 2.8 ppg, 2.9 rpg, .8 big 11.5 mpg but did start every game pretty much
3. Adjehi Baru (Charleston) 7.8 ppg, 6.3 rpg. .7 bpg 26.7 mpg
4. Johnny O'Bryant (LSU) 8.4 ppg, 6.7 rpg, .8 bpg 21.4 mpg
5. Michael Chandler (ha no explanation here either)
6. Tyler Adams (GTOWN) 2.5 ppg, 2.3 rpg, .8 big, 6mpg (only played 3 games then sidelined due to heart issue)
7.Willy Kouassi (Auburn) 1.5 ppg, 2.6 rpg, .6bpg 10.2 mpg
8. Zach Price (LVILLE) .7 ppg, .9 rpg, .2 bpg 4.3 mpg
9. Angelo Chol (ZONA) 2.7 ppg, 2.2 rpg, .8 bpg, 12.1 mpg
10. Amir Williams (Ohio St) 1.7 ppg, 2.2 rpg, .8 bpg 6.6 mpg
11. Marshall Plumlee (Duke) REDSHIRTED
For shits and giggles lets throw his brothers in here.
Mason's 1st yr- 3.7 ppg, 3.1 rpg, .9 bpg, 14.1 mpg
Miles 1st yr- 1.8 ppg, 1.4 rpg, .5 bpg, 6.9 mpg
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12. Nick Jacobs (BAMA) 6.2 ppg, 3.6 rpg, .8 bpg, 19.2 mpg
13. Joseph Uchebo (Did not qualify)
14. Nnanna Egwu (Illinois) 1.9 ppg, 1.5 rpg, .6 bpg, 9.8 mpg
Egwu made me think of his teammate Meyers Leonard who is supposed to be a 1st rd caliber player this year in the Draft. Leonard went for 2.1 ppg, 1.2 rpg, .4 bpg in 8.2 mpg his first year. He then improved to the tune of 13.6 ppg, 8.2 rpg, 1.9 bpg in 31.8 mpg this year. Pretty nice YOY growth.
Finally the same position that Obekpa was this year
15. Malcolm Gilbert (PITT) .5 ppg, .9 rpg, .3 bpg 4.9 mpg
Now you think all these schools with most of these 'offensively challenged' big men, think they have D2 and D3 centers on their hands?
Hopefully this post puts this topic to rest. Good job Moose.. Or as White Goodman would say in Dodgeball .. " total facial Lafleur". :)
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Obekpa is the #15 rated center according to Rivals for 2012
Lets look at 2011
1. Norvel Pelle (ha no explanation needed)
2. Rakeem Christmas (CUSE) 2.8 ppg, 2.9 rpg, .8 big 11.5 mpg but did start every game pretty much
3. Adjehi Baru (Charleston) 7.8 ppg, 6.3 rpg. .7 bpg 26.7 mpg
4. Johnny O'Bryant (LSU) 8.4 ppg, 6.7 rpg, .8 bpg 21.4 mpg
5. Michael Chandler (ha no explanation here either)
6. Tyler Adams (GTOWN) 2.5 ppg, 2.3 rpg, .8 big, 6mpg (only played 3 games then sidelined due to heart issue)
7.Willy Kouassi (Auburn) 1.5 ppg, 2.6 rpg, .6bpg 10.2 mpg
8. Zach Price (LVILLE) .7 ppg, .9 rpg, .2 bpg 4.3 mpg
9. Angelo Chol (ZONA) 2.7 ppg, 2.2 rpg, .8 bpg, 12.1 mpg
10. Amir Williams (Ohio St) 1.7 ppg, 2.2 rpg, .8 bpg 6.6 mpg
11. Marshall Plumlee (Duke) REDSHIRTED
For shits and giggles lets throw his brothers in here.
Mason's 1st yr- 3.7 ppg, 3.1 rpg, .9 bpg, 14.1 mpg
Miles 1st yr- 1.8 ppg, 1.4 rpg, .5 bpg, 6.9 mpg
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12. Nick Jacobs (BAMA) 6.2 ppg, 3.6 rpg, .8 bpg, 19.2 mpg
13. Joseph Uchebo (Did not qualify)
14. Nnanna Egwu (Illinois) 1.9 ppg, 1.5 rpg, .6 bpg, 9.8 mpg
Egwu made me think of his teammate Meyers Leonard who is supposed to be a 1st rd caliber player this year in the Draft. Leonard went for 2.1 ppg, 1.2 rpg, .4 bpg in 8.2 mpg his first year. He then improved to the tune of 13.6 ppg, 8.2 rpg, 1.9 bpg in 31.8 mpg this year. Pretty nice YOY growth.
Finally the same position that Obekpa was this year
15. Malcolm Gilbert (PITT) .5 ppg, .9 rpg, .3 bpg 4.9 mpg
Now you think all these schools with most of these 'offensively challenged' big men, think they have D2 and D3 centers on their hands?
Freshman big men usually don't get much PT year one. And last year was a weak class for centers. No one said he was a D2 center which seems to be the point you are missing. I would argue that Obekpa is a better shot blocker than any of the guys on that list. He's a bad offensive player, other than that, he's great. He will improve too as he works with D1 coaches, I don't ever expect him to average a lot of points though.
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please lord...make it stop... lol
Have a great weekend all. Gonna watch this hockey game first.
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Obekpa is the #15 rated center according to Rivals for 2012
Lets look at 2011
1. Norvel Pelle (ha no explanation needed)
2. Rakeem Christmas (CUSE) 2.8 ppg, 2.9 rpg, .8 big 11.5 mpg but did start every game pretty much
3. Adjehi Baru (Charleston) 7.8 ppg, 6.3 rpg. .7 bpg 26.7 mpg
4. Johnny O'Bryant (LSU) 8.4 ppg, 6.7 rpg, .8 bpg 21.4 mpg
5. Michael Chandler (ha no explanation here either)
6. Tyler Adams (GTOWN) 2.5 ppg, 2.3 rpg, .8 big, 6mpg (only played 3 games then sidelined due to heart issue)
7.Willy Kouassi (Auburn) 1.5 ppg, 2.6 rpg, .6bpg 10.2 mpg
8. Zach Price (LVILLE) .7 ppg, .9 rpg, .2 bpg 4.3 mpg
9. Angelo Chol (ZONA) 2.7 ppg, 2.2 rpg, .8 bpg, 12.1 mpg
10. Amir Williams (Ohio St) 1.7 ppg, 2.2 rpg, .8 bpg 6.6 mpg
11. Marshall Plumlee (Duke) REDSHIRTED
For shits and giggles lets throw his brothers in here.
Mason's 1st yr- 3.7 ppg, 3.1 rpg, .9 bpg, 14.1 mpg
Miles 1st yr- 1.8 ppg, 1.4 rpg, .5 bpg, 6.9 mpg
Back to rankings
12. Nick Jacobs (BAMA) 6.2 ppg, 3.6 rpg, .8 bpg, 19.2 mpg
13. Joseph Uchebo (Did not qualify)
14. Nnanna Egwu (Illinois) 1.9 ppg, 1.5 rpg, .6 bpg, 9.8 mpg
Egwu made me think of his teammate Meyers Leonard who is supposed to be a 1st rd caliber player this year in the Draft. Leonard went for 2.1 ppg, 1.2 rpg, .4 bpg in 8.2 mpg his first year. He then improved to the tune of 13.6 ppg, 8.2 rpg, 1.9 bpg in 31.8 mpg this year. Pretty nice YOY growth.
Finally the same position that Obekpa was this year
15. Malcolm Gilbert (PITT) .5 ppg, .9 rpg, .3 bpg 4.9 mpg
Now you think all these schools with most of these 'offensively challenged' big men, think they have D2 and D3 centers on their hands?
Freshman big men usually don't get much PT year one. And last year was a weak class for centers. No one said he was a D2 center which seems to be the point you are missing. I would argue that Obekpa is a better shot blocker than any of the guys on that list. He's a bad offensive player, other than that, he's great.
I'm not missing any point. Theo said he had D2 offensive skills and you are agreeing with that assertion. I'm blowing up that theory. I just showed you rankings from last year and how they performed year 1. You see hits, you see misses, you see nobody with his D (like you correctly pointed out) but you average in all those numbers and you get some pretty weak offensive numbers. Obekpa can do that at the D1 level with his eyes closed (heck maybe thats why he's dropping passes).
Thank you for making my work day go much faster today :)
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Obekpa is the #15 rated center according to Rivals for 2012
Lets look at 2011
1. Norvel Pelle (ha no explanation needed)
2. Rakeem Christmas (CUSE) 2.8 ppg, 2.9 rpg, .8 big 11.5 mpg but did start every game pretty much
3. Adjehi Baru (Charleston) 7.8 ppg, 6.3 rpg. .7 bpg 26.7 mpg
4. Johnny O'Bryant (LSU) 8.4 ppg, 6.7 rpg, .8 bpg 21.4 mpg
5. Michael Chandler (ha no explanation here either)
6. Tyler Adams (GTOWN) 2.5 ppg, 2.3 rpg, .8 big, 6mpg (only played 3 games then sidelined due to heart issue)
7.Willy Kouassi (Auburn) 1.5 ppg, 2.6 rpg, .6bpg 10.2 mpg
8. Zach Price (LVILLE) .7 ppg, .9 rpg, .2 bpg 4.3 mpg
9. Angelo Chol (ZONA) 2.7 ppg, 2.2 rpg, .8 bpg, 12.1 mpg
10. Amir Williams (Ohio St) 1.7 ppg, 2.2 rpg, .8 bpg 6.6 mpg
11. Marshall Plumlee (Duke) REDSHIRTED
For shits and giggles lets throw his brothers in here.
Mason's 1st yr- 3.7 ppg, 3.1 rpg, .9 bpg, 14.1 mpg
Miles 1st yr- 1.8 ppg, 1.4 rpg, .5 bpg, 6.9 mpg
Back to rankings
12. Nick Jacobs (BAMA) 6.2 ppg, 3.6 rpg, .8 bpg, 19.2 mpg
13. Joseph Uchebo (Did not qualify)
14. Nnanna Egwu (Illinois) 1.9 ppg, 1.5 rpg, .6 bpg, 9.8 mpg
Egwu made me think of his teammate Meyers Leonard who is supposed to be a 1st rd caliber player this year in the Draft. Leonard went for 2.1 ppg, 1.2 rpg, .4 bpg in 8.2 mpg his first year. He then improved to the tune of 13.6 ppg, 8.2 rpg, 1.9 bpg in 31.8 mpg this year. Pretty nice YOY growth.
Finally the same position that Obekpa was this year
15. Malcolm Gilbert (PITT) .5 ppg, .9 rpg, .3 bpg 4.9 mpg
Now you think all these schools with most of these 'offensively challenged' big men, think they have D2 and D3 centers on their hands?
...God's Gift 9.4ppg 5.8rpg 29mpg
Looks like we should be happy with our post player situation.
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Obekpa is the #15 rated center according to Rivals for 2012
Lets look at 2011
1. Norvel Pelle (ha no explanation needed)
2. Rakeem Christmas (CUSE) 2.8 ppg, 2.9 rpg, .8 big 11.5 mpg but did start every game pretty much
3. Adjehi Baru (Charleston) 7.8 ppg, 6.3 rpg. .7 bpg 26.7 mpg
4. Johnny O'Bryant (LSU) 8.4 ppg, 6.7 rpg, .8 bpg 21.4 mpg
5. Michael Chandler (ha no explanation here either)
6. Tyler Adams (GTOWN) 2.5 ppg, 2.3 rpg, .8 big, 6mpg (only played 3 games then sidelined due to heart issue)
7.Willy Kouassi (Auburn) 1.5 ppg, 2.6 rpg, .6bpg 10.2 mpg
8. Zach Price (LVILLE) .7 ppg, .9 rpg, .2 bpg 4.3 mpg
9. Angelo Chol (ZONA) 2.7 ppg, 2.2 rpg, .8 bpg, 12.1 mpg
10. Amir Williams (Ohio St) 1.7 ppg, 2.2 rpg, .8 bpg 6.6 mpg
11. Marshall Plumlee (Duke) REDSHIRTED
For shits and giggles lets throw his brothers in here.
Mason's 1st yr- 3.7 ppg, 3.1 rpg, .9 bpg, 14.1 mpg
Miles 1st yr- 1.8 ppg, 1.4 rpg, .5 bpg, 6.9 mpg
Back to rankings
12. Nick Jacobs (BAMA) 6.2 ppg, 3.6 rpg, .8 bpg, 19.2 mpg
13. Joseph Uchebo (Did not qualify)
14. Nnanna Egwu (Illinois) 1.9 ppg, 1.5 rpg, .6 bpg, 9.8 mpg
Egwu made me think of his teammate Meyers Leonard who is supposed to be a 1st rd caliber player this year in the Draft. Leonard went for 2.1 ppg, 1.2 rpg, .4 bpg in 8.2 mpg his first year. He then improved to the tune of 13.6 ppg, 8.2 rpg, 1.9 bpg in 31.8 mpg this year. Pretty nice YOY growth.
Finally the same position that Obekpa was this year
15. Malcolm Gilbert (PITT) .5 ppg, .9 rpg, .3 bpg 4.9 mpg
Now you think all these schools with most of these 'offensively challenged' big men, think they have D2 and D3 centers on their hands?
Very informative post. Very good to know I can use " shits " without it getting modified :)
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Obekpa is the #15 rated center according to Rivals for 2012
Lets look at 2011
1. Norvel Pelle (ha no explanation needed)
2. Rakeem Christmas (CUSE) 2.8 ppg, 2.9 rpg, .8 big 11.5 mpg but did start every game pretty much
3. Adjehi Baru (Charleston) 7.8 ppg, 6.3 rpg. .7 bpg 26.7 mpg
4. Johnny O'Bryant (LSU) 8.4 ppg, 6.7 rpg, .8 bpg 21.4 mpg
5. Michael Chandler (ha no explanation here either)
6. Tyler Adams (GTOWN) 2.5 ppg, 2.3 rpg, .8 big, 6mpg (only played 3 games then sidelined due to heart issue)
7.Willy Kouassi (Auburn) 1.5 ppg, 2.6 rpg, .6bpg 10.2 mpg
8. Zach Price (LVILLE) .7 ppg, .9 rpg, .2 bpg 4.3 mpg
9. Angelo Chol (ZONA) 2.7 ppg, 2.2 rpg, .8 bpg, 12.1 mpg
10. Amir Williams (Ohio St) 1.7 ppg, 2.2 rpg, .8 bpg 6.6 mpg
11. Marshall Plumlee (Duke) REDSHIRTED
For shits and giggles lets throw his brothers in here.
Mason's 1st yr- 3.7 ppg, 3.1 rpg, .9 bpg, 14.1 mpg
Miles 1st yr- 1.8 ppg, 1.4 rpg, .5 bpg, 6.9 mpg
Back to rankings
12. Nick Jacobs (BAMA) 6.2 ppg, 3.6 rpg, .8 bpg, 19.2 mpg
13. Joseph Uchebo (Did not qualify)
14. Nnanna Egwu (Illinois) 1.9 ppg, 1.5 rpg, .6 bpg, 9.8 mpg
Egwu made me think of his teammate Meyers Leonard who is supposed to be a 1st rd caliber player this year in the Draft. Leonard went for 2.1 ppg, 1.2 rpg, .4 bpg in 8.2 mpg his first year. He then improved to the tune of 13.6 ppg, 8.2 rpg, 1.9 bpg in 31.8 mpg this year. Pretty nice YOY growth.
Finally the same position that Obekpa was this year
15. Malcolm Gilbert (PITT) .5 ppg, .9 rpg, .3 bpg 4.9 mpg
Now you think all these schools with most of these 'offensively challenged' big men, think they have D2 and D3 centers on their hands?
...God's Gift 9.4ppg 5.8rpg 29mpg
Looks like we should be happy with our post player situation.
But others say he's not a BE player.......oh wait I probably shouldn't go there :)
Just imagine how I'm gonna post later if the Rangers lose haha
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Obekpa is the #15 rated center according to Rivals for 2012
Lets look at 2011
1. Norvel Pelle (ha no explanation needed)
2. Rakeem Christmas (CUSE) 2.8 ppg, 2.9 rpg, .8 big 11.5 mpg but did start every game pretty much
3. Adjehi Baru (Charleston) 7.8 ppg, 6.3 rpg. .7 bpg 26.7 mpg
4. Johnny O'Bryant (LSU) 8.4 ppg, 6.7 rpg, .8 bpg 21.4 mpg
5. Michael Chandler (ha no explanation here either)
6. Tyler Adams (GTOWN) 2.5 ppg, 2.3 rpg, .8 big, 6mpg (only played 3 games then sidelined due to heart issue)
7.Willy Kouassi (Auburn) 1.5 ppg, 2.6 rpg, .6bpg 10.2 mpg
8. Zach Price (LVILLE) .7 ppg, .9 rpg, .2 bpg 4.3 mpg
9. Angelo Chol (ZONA) 2.7 ppg, 2.2 rpg, .8 bpg, 12.1 mpg
10. Amir Williams (Ohio St) 1.7 ppg, 2.2 rpg, .8 bpg 6.6 mpg
11. Marshall Plumlee (Duke) REDSHIRTED
For shits and giggles lets throw his brothers in here.
Mason's 1st yr- 3.7 ppg, 3.1 rpg, .9 bpg, 14.1 mpg
Miles 1st yr- 1.8 ppg, 1.4 rpg, .5 bpg, 6.9 mpg
Back to rankings
12. Nick Jacobs (BAMA) 6.2 ppg, 3.6 rpg, .8 bpg, 19.2 mpg
13. Joseph Uchebo (Did not qualify)
14. Nnanna Egwu (Illinois) 1.9 ppg, 1.5 rpg, .6 bpg, 9.8 mpg
Egwu made me think of his teammate Meyers Leonard who is supposed to be a 1st rd caliber player this year in the Draft. Leonard went for 2.1 ppg, 1.2 rpg, .4 bpg in 8.2 mpg his first year. He then improved to the tune of 13.6 ppg, 8.2 rpg, 1.9 bpg in 31.8 mpg this year. Pretty nice YOY growth.
Finally the same position that Obekpa was this year
15. Malcolm Gilbert (PITT) .5 ppg, .9 rpg, .3 bpg 4.9 mpg
Now you think all these schools with most of these 'offensively challenged' big men, think they have D2 and D3 centers on their hands?
Freshman big men usually don't get much PT year one. And last year was a weak class for centers. No one said he was a D2 center which seems to be the point you are missing. I would argue that Obekpa is a better shot blocker than any of the guys on that list. He's a bad offensive player, other than that, he's great.
I'm not missing any point. Theo said he had D2 offensive skills and you are agreeing with that assertion. I'm blowing up that theory. I just showed you rankings from last year and how they performed year 1. You see hits, you see misses, you see nobody with his D (like you correctly pointed out) but you average in all those numbers and you get some pretty weak offensive numbers. Obekpa can do that at the D1 level with his eyes closed (heck maybe thats why he's dropping passes).
Thank you for making my work day go much faster today :)
No problem. I guess we will see how his offensive game progresses at Cincy.
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I don't think there is much NOT true about what people are saying of Obekpa's abilities. He has other-worldly defensive ability which can alter an opponent's game plan and he has D2 or D3 offensive skills at this point.
D2 or D3 offensive skills.
Come on.
Nobody would be highly sought after or ranked as high if your evaluation was in fact true.
So when I tell you a staff member of a school that has recruited Obekpa echoed the same thoughts your reaction is......
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I don't think there is much NOT true about what people are saying of Obekpa's abilities. He has other-worldly defensive ability which can alter an opponent's game plan and he has D2 or D3 offensive skills at this point.
D2 or D3 offensive skills.
Come on.
Nobody would be highly sought after or ranked as high if your evaluation was in fact true.
So when I tell you a staff member of a school that has recruited Obekpa echoed the same thoughts your reaction is......
Theo, never wake up a sleeping Moose! Lol!
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Obekpa is the #15 rated center according to Rivals for 2012
Lets look at 2011
1. Norvel Pelle (ha no explanation needed)
2. Rakeem Christmas (CUSE) 2.8 ppg, 2.9 rpg, .8 big 11.5 mpg but did start every game pretty much
3. Adjehi Baru (Charleston) 7.8 ppg, 6.3 rpg. .7 bpg 26.7 mpg
4. Johnny O'Bryant (LSU) 8.4 ppg, 6.7 rpg, .8 bpg 21.4 mpg
5. Michael Chandler (ha no explanation here either)
6. Tyler Adams (GTOWN) 2.5 ppg, 2.3 rpg, .8 big, 6mpg (only played 3 games then sidelined due to heart issue)
7.Willy Kouassi (Auburn) 1.5 ppg, 2.6 rpg, .6bpg 10.2 mpg
8. Zach Price (LVILLE) .7 ppg, .9 rpg, .2 bpg 4.3 mpg
9. Angelo Chol (ZONA) 2.7 ppg, 2.2 rpg, .8 bpg, 12.1 mpg
10. Amir Williams (Ohio St) 1.7 ppg, 2.2 rpg, .8 bpg 6.6 mpg
11. Marshall Plumlee (Duke) REDSHIRTED
For shits and giggles lets throw his brothers in here.
Mason's 1st yr- 3.7 ppg, 3.1 rpg, .9 bpg, 14.1 mpg
Miles 1st yr- 1.8 ppg, 1.4 rpg, .5 bpg, 6.9 mpg
Back to rankings
12. Nick Jacobs (BAMA) 6.2 ppg, 3.6 rpg, .8 bpg, 19.2 mpg
13. Joseph Uchebo (Did not qualify)
14. Nnanna Egwu (Illinois) 1.9 ppg, 1.5 rpg, .6 bpg, 9.8 mpg
Egwu made me think of his teammate Meyers Leonard who is supposed to be a 1st rd caliber player this year in the Draft. Leonard went for 2.1 ppg, 1.2 rpg, .4 bpg in 8.2 mpg his first year. He then improved to the tune of 13.6 ppg, 8.2 rpg, 1.9 bpg in 31.8 mpg this year. Pretty nice YOY growth.
Finally the same position that Obekpa was this year
15. Malcolm Gilbert (PITT) .5 ppg, .9 rpg, .3 bpg 4.9 mpg
Now you think all these schools with most of these 'offensively challenged' big men, think they have D2 and D3 centers on their hands?
Freshman big men usually don't get much PT year one. And last year was a weak class for centers. No one said he was a D2 center which seems to be the point you are missing. I would argue that Obekpa is a better shot blocker than any of the guys on that list. He's a bad offensive player, other than that, he's great.
I'm not missing any point. Theo said he had D2 offensive skills and you are agreeing with that assertion. I'm blowing up that theory. I just showed you rankings from last year and how they performed year 1. You see hits, you see misses, you see nobody with his D (like you correctly pointed out) but you average in all those numbers and you get some pretty weak offensive numbers. Obekpa can do that at the D1 level with his eyes closed (heck maybe thats why he's dropping passes).
Thank you for making my work day go much faster today :)
Throwing out numbers of guys who don't play much doesn't "blow up" any theory. Lets put what he does offensively against MANY D2 bigmen and you will see those D2 players are more developed.
He is absolutely a Big East player and likely an impact Big East player pretty immediately ALL because of his shot blocking/altering abilities. Hell, Hamady N'Diaye is in the NBA and he did almost offensively in college. As I said in earlier post, I can't see much of a difference in his shot blocking ability vs. Nerlens'. Me saying his offensive ability is far behind what he does defensively DOESNT change the big picture of what he is as a prospect. And as I said, a staff member of a school that recruited him echoed the same thoughts to me a few months back.
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I don't think there is much NOT true about what people are saying of Obekpa's abilities. He has other-worldly defensive ability which can alter an opponent's game plan and he has D2 or D3 offensive skills at this point.
D2 or D3 offensive skills.
Come on.
Nobody would be highly sought after or ranked as high if your evaluation was in fact true.
So when I tell you a staff member of a school that has recruited Obekpa echoed the same thoughts your reaction is......
I would tell that coach to his face that he should think twice about that statement so he doesn't look foolish. Then I'd ask what his boss said when he told him that. If you/him said he had low mid major offensive game I wouldn't blink twice. BIG difference between that and D2/D3.
He's recruiting him for his defense. And the hope they can mold something manageable out of him on the other end.
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Obekpa is the #15 rated center according to Rivals for 2012
Lets look at 2011
1. Norvel Pelle (ha no explanation needed)
2. Rakeem Christmas (CUSE) 2.8 ppg, 2.9 rpg, .8 big 11.5 mpg but did start every game pretty much
3. Adjehi Baru (Charleston) 7.8 ppg, 6.3 rpg. .7 bpg 26.7 mpg
4. Johnny O'Bryant (LSU) 8.4 ppg, 6.7 rpg, .8 bpg 21.4 mpg
5. Michael Chandler (ha no explanation here either)
6. Tyler Adams (GTOWN) 2.5 ppg, 2.3 rpg, .8 big, 6mpg (only played 3 games then sidelined due to heart issue)
7.Willy Kouassi (Auburn) 1.5 ppg, 2.6 rpg, .6bpg 10.2 mpg
8. Zach Price (LVILLE) .7 ppg, .9 rpg, .2 bpg 4.3 mpg
9. Angelo Chol (ZONA) 2.7 ppg, 2.2 rpg, .8 bpg, 12.1 mpg
10. Amir Williams (Ohio St) 1.7 ppg, 2.2 rpg, .8 bpg 6.6 mpg
11. Marshall Plumlee (Duke) REDSHIRTED
For shits and giggles lets throw his brothers in here.
Mason's 1st yr- 3.7 ppg, 3.1 rpg, .9 bpg, 14.1 mpg
Miles 1st yr- 1.8 ppg, 1.4 rpg, .5 bpg, 6.9 mpg
Back to rankings
12. Nick Jacobs (BAMA) 6.2 ppg, 3.6 rpg, .8 bpg, 19.2 mpg
13. Joseph Uchebo (Did not qualify)
14. Nnanna Egwu (Illinois) 1.9 ppg, 1.5 rpg, .6 bpg, 9.8 mpg
Egwu made me think of his teammate Meyers Leonard who is supposed to be a 1st rd caliber player this year in the Draft. Leonard went for 2.1 ppg, 1.2 rpg, .4 bpg in 8.2 mpg his first year. He then improved to the tune of 13.6 ppg, 8.2 rpg, 1.9 bpg in 31.8 mpg this year. Pretty nice YOY growth.
Finally the same position that Obekpa was this year
15. Malcolm Gilbert (PITT) .5 ppg, .9 rpg, .3 bpg 4.9 mpg
Now you think all these schools with most of these 'offensively challenged' big men, think they have D2 and D3 centers on their hands?
Freshman big men usually don't get much PT year one. And last year was a weak class for centers. No one said he was a D2 center which seems to be the point you are missing. I would argue that Obekpa is a better shot blocker than any of the guys on that list. He's a bad offensive player, other than that, he's great.
I'm not missing any point. Theo said he had D2 offensive skills and you are agreeing with that assertion. I'm blowing up that theory. I just showed you rankings from last year and how they performed year 1. You see hits, you see misses, you see nobody with his D (like you correctly pointed out) but you average in all those numbers and you get some pretty weak offensive numbers. Obekpa can do that at the D1 level with his eyes closed (heck maybe thats why he's dropping passes).
Thank you for making my work day go much faster today :)
Throwing out numbers of guys who don't play much doesn't "blow up" any theory. Lets put what he does offensively against MANY D2 bigmen and you will see those D2 players are more developed.
He is absolutely a Big East player and likely an impact Big East player pretty immediately ALL because of his shot blocking/altering abilities. Hell, Hamady N'Diaye is in the NBA and he did almost offensively in college. As I said in earlier post, I can't see much of a difference in his shot blocking ability vs. Nerlens'. Me saying his offensive ability is far behind what he does defensively DOESNT change the big picture of what he is as a prospect. And as I said, a staff member of a school that recruited him echoed the same thoughts to me a few months back.
Can Obekpa average some of those numbers above? Yes. So then I guess all those guys also have D2 offensive games. Theo you know basketball. You know a big man is going to get a couple tip ins off misses, a dunk or two on nice give and a couple FT's. That's it. You do that on a regular basis and you put up decent numbers. And yes Ndaiye is a perfect example. Obekpa is never going to be on a team and be the 1-4 offensive option. D2/D3 is an outlandish statement. We can reconvene if this kid decides to pick a damn school otherwise he will be like Pelle, Chandler and Uchebo on the list above.
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I don't think there is much NOT true about what people are saying of Obekpa's abilities. He has other-worldly defensive ability which can alter an opponent's game plan and he has D2 or D3 offensive skills at this point.
D2 or D3 offensive skills.
Come on.
Nobody would be highly sought after or ranked as high if your evaluation was in fact true.
So when I tell you a staff member of a school that has recruited Obekpa echoed the same thoughts your reaction is......
Coaches throw out tongue in cheek analogies like that all the time. Most likely highlighting the fact that he isn't exactly the most polished offensive player.
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I don't think there is much NOT true about what people are saying of Obekpa's abilities. He has other-worldly defensive ability which can alter an opponent's game plan and he has D2 or D3 offensive skills at this point.
D2 or D3 offensive skills.
Come on.
Nobody would be highly sought after or ranked as high if your evaluation was in fact true.
So when I tell you a staff member of a school that has recruited Obekpa echoed the same thoughts your reaction is......
Coaches throw out tongue in cheek analogies like that all the time. Most likely highlighting the fact that he isn't exactly the most polished offensive player.
Because most fans see a Top 100 player and expect him to come in and light it up regardless of what position he plays. I said it months ago and will stand by it. 4.5 ppg, 4 rpg, 2 bpg would be an ideal perfect stat line for Obekpa freshman year
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Imagine if he goes to Cincy and scores 10 points vs. us. :2funny:
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Imagine if he goes to Cincy and scores 10 points vs. us. :2funny:
Starting to believe Chris thinks he is a junior. Commit already!
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Since someone mentioned last year being a weak Center class and the Rangers playing like crap here is 2010. Only 13 centers ranked for them that year so actually less in the Top 150.
1. Jared Sullinger (Ohio St) 17.2 ppg, 10.2 rpg, .5 bpg, 31.7 mpg 1st rd pick this yr
2. Fab Melo (CUSE) 2.3 ppg, 1.9 rpg, .8 bpg, 9.9 mpg 1st rd pick this year
3. Adreian Payne (Mich St) 2.5 ppg, 2.4 rpg, .8 bpg, 9 mpg
4. Josh Smith (UCLA) 10.9 ppg, 6.3 ppg, 1 bpg, 21.7 mpg (god forbid this kid ever got in shape and gave a crap)
5. Patric Young (FLA) 3.4 ppg, 3.8 rpg, .8 bpg, 17.7 mpg
6. Meyers Leonard- PREVIOUS POST
7. Tarik Black (MEMPHIS) 9.1 ppg, 5 rpg, 1.6 bpg 22.6 mpg
8. CJ Aiken (St. Joe's) 10.8 ppg, 5.1 rpg, 3.5 bpg 27.5 mpg
9. Demarco Cox (MISS) 1.6 ppg, 1.9 rpg, .5 bpg, 8.6 mpg
10. Carson Desrosiers (WAKE) 4.0 ppg, 3.2 rpg, 1.7 bpg 19.1 mpg (Transferred after this year)
11. Moses Abraham (GTOWN) no clue what this guys story is? Anyone?
12. Alex Kirk (NEW MEX) 4.7 ppg, 3.7 rpg, .6 bpg, 15 mpg
13. Maurice Walker (MINNY) 3.7 ppg, 2.8 rpg, .4 bpg, 9.6 mpg
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Since someone mentioned last year being a weak Center class and the Rangers playing like crap here is 2010. Only 13 centers ranked for them that year so actually less in the Top 150.
1. Jared Sullinger (Ohio St) 17.2 ppg, 10.2 rpg, .5 bpg, 31.7 mpg 1st rd pick this yr
2. Fab Melo (CUSE) 2.3 ppg, 1.9 rpg, .8 bpg, 9.9 mpg 1st rd pick this year
3. Adreian Payne (Mich St) 2.5 ppg, 2.4 rpg, .8 bpg, 9 mpg
4. Josh Smith (UCLA) 10.9 ppg, 6.3 ppg, 1 bpg, 21.7 mpg (god forbid this kid ever got in shape and gave a crap)
5. Patric Young (FLA) 3.4 ppg, 3.8 rpg, .8 bpg, 17.7 mpg
6. Meyers Leonard- PREVIOUS POST
7. Tarik Black (MEMPHIS) 9.1 ppg, 5 rpg, 1.6 bpg 22.6 mpg
8. CJ Aiken (St. Joe's) 10.8 ppg, 5.1 rpg, 3.5 bpg 27.5 mpg
9. Demarco Cox (MISS) 1.6 ppg, 1.9 rpg, .5 bpg, 8.6 mpg
10. Carson Desrosiers (WAKE) 4.0 ppg, 3.2 rpg, 1.7 bpg 19.1 mpg (Transferred after this year)
11. Moses Abraham (GTOWN) no clue what this guys story is? Anyone?
12. Alex Kirk (NEW MEX) 4.7 ppg, 3.7 rpg, .6 bpg, 15 mpg
13. Maurice Walker (MINNY) 3.7 ppg, 2.8 rpg, .4 bpg, 9.6 mpg
Moose, are you a bounty hunter? Never gives up! Lol!
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Since someone mentioned last year being a weak Center class and the Rangers playing like crap here is 2010. Only 13 centers ranked for them that year so actually less in the Top 150.
1. Jared Sullinger (Ohio St) 17.2 ppg, 10.2 rpg, .5 bpg, 31.7 mpg 1st rd pick this yr
2. Fab Melo (CUSE) 2.3 ppg, 1.9 rpg, .8 bpg, 9.9 mpg 1st rd pick this year
3. Adreian Payne (Mich St) 2.5 ppg, 2.4 rpg, .8 bpg, 9 mpg
4. Josh Smith (UCLA) 10.9 ppg, 6.3 ppg, 1 bpg, 21.7 mpg (god forbid this kid ever got in shape and gave a crap)
5. Patric Young (FLA) 3.4 ppg, 3.8 rpg, .8 bpg, 17.7 mpg
6. Meyers Leonard- PREVIOUS POST
7. Tarik Black (MEMPHIS) 9.1 ppg, 5 rpg, 1.6 bpg 22.6 mpg
8. CJ Aiken (St. Joe's) 10.8 ppg, 5.1 rpg, 3.5 bpg 27.5 mpg
9. Demarco Cox (MISS) 1.6 ppg, 1.9 rpg, .5 bpg, 8.6 mpg
10. Carson Desrosiers (WAKE) 4.0 ppg, 3.2 rpg, 1.7 bpg 19.1 mpg (Transferred after this year)
11. Moses Abraham (GTOWN) no clue what this guys story is? Anyone?
12. Alex Kirk (NEW MEX) 4.7 ppg, 3.7 rpg, .6 bpg, 15 mpg
13. Maurice Walker (MINNY) 3.7 ppg, 2.8 rpg, .4 bpg, 9.6 mpg
Moose, are you a bounty hunter? Never gives up! Lol!
I've been 'working' all day :) This is therapeutic
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It's kind of a silly argument. There are some D-2 and D-3 "bigs" that are exponentially more skilled than D-1 big men. The problem is they are usually 6'6/6'7 and dont have the athletic ability and/or length of their D-1 counterparts.
I think Theo (and co.) was simply saying the affect Obekpa would have on the offensive end would be nothing more than what a D-2 or D-3 center would bring. Defensively, though, the kid is undeniably a monster. He also hits the offensive glass pretty impressively. All things considered for the first few years--like most offensive projects at the center position--whoever lands Obekpa would probably enjoy the same or perhaps even a little more success pounding the ball into a very skilled but less talented D-2/D-3 player on that end of the floor. Defensively, Obekpa is going to have an incredible effect on the game that a D-2/D-3 player could never come close to.
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It's kind of a silly argument. There are some D-2 and D-3 "bigs" that are exponentially more skilled than D-1 big men. The problem is they are usually 6'6/6'7 and dont have the athletic ability and/or length of their D-1 counterparts.
I think Theo (and co.) was simply saying the affect Obekpa would have on the offensive end would be nothing more than what a D-2 or D-3 center would bring. Defensively, though, the kid is undeniably a monster. He also hits the offensive glass pretty impressively. All things considered for the first few years--like most offensive projects at the center position--whoever lands Obekpa would probably enjoy the same or perhaps even a little more success pounding the ball into a very skilled but less talented D-2/D-3 player on that end of the floor. Defensively, Obekpa is going to have an incredible effect on the game that a D-2/D-3 player could never come close to.
Exactly what I was trying to say, lol, thank you.
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It's kind of a silly argument. There are some D-2 and D-3 "bigs" that are exponentially more skilled than D-1 big men. The problem is they are usually 6'6/6'7 and dont have the athletic ability and/or length of their D-1 counterparts.
I think Theo (and co.) was simply saying the affect Obekpa would have on the offensive end would be nothing more than what a D-2 or D-3 center would bring. Defensively, though, the kid is undeniably a monster. He also hits the offensive glass pretty impressively. All things considered for the first few years--like most offensive projects at the center position--whoever lands Obekpa would probably enjoy the same or perhaps even a little more success pounding the ball into a very skilled but less talented D-2/D-3 player on that end of the floor. Defensively, Obekpa is going to have an incredible effect on the game that a D-2/D-3 player could never come close to.
Exactly what I was trying to say, lol, thank you.
But Do you really think a D2 center (most of which aren't 6'9) would experience any semblance of their offensive success at D1 level. Otherwise they would be at the MAAC level schools of the world.
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Rangers going to OT. I'm expecting to see Moose get even edgier on this thread now
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Rangers going to OT. I'm expecting to see Moose get even edgier on this thread now
Haha
I'd rather Obekpa say we're the favorites again and everyone can flip and expect 14 ppg, 8 rpg and 5 blocks :)
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It's kind of a silly argument. There are some D-2 and D-3 "bigs" that are exponentially more skilled than D-1 big men. The problem is they are usually 6'6/6'7 and dont have the athletic ability and/or length of their D-1 counterparts.
I think Theo (and co.) was simply saying the affect Obekpa would have on the offensive end would be nothing more than what a D-2 or D-3 center would bring. Defensively, though, the kid is undeniably a monster. He also hits the offensive glass pretty impressively. All things considered for the first few years--like most offensive projects at the center position--whoever lands Obekpa would probably enjoy the same or perhaps even a little more success pounding the ball into a very skilled but less talented D-2/D-3 player on that end of the floor. Defensively, Obekpa is going to have an incredible effect on the game that a D-2/D-3 player could never come close to.
Exactly what I was trying to say, lol, thank you.
But Do you really think a D2 center (most of which aren't 6'9) would experience any semblance of their offensive success at D1 level. Otherwise they would be at the MAAC level schools of the world.
Certainly not wth the same degree of success as they would have at the appropriate level, but probably could produce more than some of the young projects in the D-1 ranks if nothing more than just passing, screening, hitting open jumpers, having a clue. Some of the most skilled centers in the country land at the lower school, because they don't have the combination of size, athleticism, and length you need to make it work at the D-1 level. Kids that have been perfecting back-to-the-basket moves since they were in first grade, that can shoot from midrange and the perimeter ike SF's, and can face up and put the ball on the floor. The thing is that they can get perfect position, seal their man, make a great move to the basket and then have their shot swatted into the bleachers by a kid who had poor positioning just because he has four inches on his man and arms as long as tree branches. What is the reward for a coach playing a kid like that...they'll probably neve be able to produce consitently and would not be able to defend the trees on the other end.
Look at Mt. St. Mary's against us this year. Their "bigs" were tremendously skilled and did some damage to us.
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Moose you seem to be implying that we have no chance at Obekpa? Fact?
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It's kind of a silly argument. There are some D-2 and D-3 "bigs" that are exponentially more skilled than D-1 big men. The problem is they are usually 6'6/6'7 and dont have the athletic ability and/or length of their D-1 counterparts.
I think Theo (and co.) was simply saying the affect Obekpa would have on the offensive end would be nothing more than what a D-2 or D-3 center would bring. Defensively, though, the kid is undeniably a monster. He also hits the offensive glass pretty impressively. All things considered for the first few years--like most offensive projects at the center position--whoever lands Obekpa would probably enjoy the same or perhaps even a little more success pounding the ball into a very skilled but less talented D-2/D-3 player on that end of the floor. Defensively, Obekpa is going to have an incredible effect on the game that a D-2/D-3 player could never come close to.
Exactly what I was trying to say, lol, thank you.
But Do you really think a D2 center (most of which aren't 6'9) would experience any semblance of their offensive success at D1 level. Otherwise they would be at the MAAC level schools of the world.
Certainly not wth the same degree of success as they would have at the appropriate level, but probably could produce more than some of the young projects in the D-1 ranks if nothing more than just passing, screening, hitting open jumpers, having a clue. Some of the most skilled centers in the country land at the lower school, because they don't have the combination of size, athleticism, and length you need to make it work at the D-1 level. Kids that have been perfecting back-to-the-basket moves since they were in first grade, that can shoot from midrange and the perimeter ike SF's, and can face up and put the ball on the floor. The thing is that they can get perfect position, seal their man, make a great move to the basket and then have their shot swatted into the bleachers by a kid who had poor positioning just because he has four inches on his man and arms as long as tree branches. What is the reward for a coach playing a kid like that...they'll probably neve be able to produce consitently and would not be able to defend the trees on the other end.
Look at Mt. St. Mary's against us this year. Their "bigs" were tremendously skilled and did some damage to us.
Yeah but allowing that 6'7" spot shooter drop seven threes on us made the real difference. Our "D" is so vulnerable to corner threes if the opponent shoots well we're in trouble. With more depth I hope we see more man or at least better closing out.
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Can you imagine if the roles were reversed what this board would be like?
In other words a top 100 player rumored to be headed to SJU. still won't make it official and keeps flirting with taking more visits with no decision in sight?
That is what Cincinnati is going through now.
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Can you imagine if the roles were reversed what this board would be like?
In other words a top 100 player rumored to be headed to SJU. still won't make it official and keeps flirting with taking more visits with no decision in sight?
That is what Cincinnati is going through now.
Slightly different, but Chandler is putting us through the same thing.
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Can you imagine if the roles were reversed what this board would be like?
In other words a top 100 player rumored to be headed to SJU. still won't make it official and keeps flirting with taking more visits with no decision in sight?
That is what Cincinnati is going through now.
Slightly different, but Chandler is putting us through the same thing.
Chandler isn't putting us thru anything. The staff doesn't want him verballed unless the NCAA gives him their blessing. And he understands that as well.
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Can you imagine if the roles were reversed what this board would be like?
In other words a top 100 player rumored to be headed to SJU. still won't make it official and keeps flirting with taking more visits with no decision in sight?
That is what Cincinnati is going through now.
Slightly different, but Chandler is putting us through the same thing.
Chandler isn't putting us thru anything. The staff doesn't want him verballed unless the NCAA gives him their blessing. And he understands that as well.
Chandler is 100% academics. Unlike Obekpa we don't read recruiting stories weekly about him still making up his mind despite rumors that he is headed to Cincinnati.
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Can you imagine if the roles were reversed what this board would be like?
In other words a top 100 player rumored to be headed to SJU. still won't make it official and keeps flirting with taking more visits with no decision in sight?
That is what Cincinnati is going through now.
Slightly different, but Chandler is putting us through the same thing.
Chandler isn't putting us thru anything. The staff doesn't want him verballed unless the NCAA gives him their blessing. And he understands that as well.
Chandler is 100% academics. Unlike Obekpa we don't read recruiting stories weekly about him still making up his mind despite rumors that he is headed to Cincinnati.
I still wonder if there is some other issue there like qualifying with Obekpa. Like I've said before, most good ayers don't forego both signing periods on purpose as they are making their decisions. Even Amile Jefferson who dragged it out chose during the spring signing. I have to think there is a hitch. If he loved Cincy that much, he would have verballed and/or signed already unless there was something holding him back. I have a hard time believing that he's just taking his sweet time as we're already headed into the summer just about.
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Can you imagine if the roles were reversed what this board would be like?
In other words a top 100 player rumored to be headed to SJU. still won't make it official and keeps flirting with taking more visits with no decision in sight?
That is what Cincinnati is going through now.
Slightly different, but Chandler is putting us through the same thing.
Chandler isn't putting us thru anything. The staff doesn't want him verballed unless the NCAA gives him their blessing. And he understands that as well.
Chandler is 100% academics. Unlike Obekpa we don't read recruiting stories weekly about him still making up his mind despite rumors that he is headed to Cincinnati.
I still wonder if there is some other issue there like qualifying with Obekpa. Like I've said before, most good ayers don't forego both signing periods on purpose as they are making their decisions. Even Amile Jefferson who dragged it out chose during the spring signing. I have to think there is a hitch. If he loved Cincy that much, he would have verballed and/or signed already unless there was something holding him back. I have a hard time believing that he's just taking his sweet time as we're already headed into the summer just about.
Why did Sanchez verbal to SJU on his visit and proceed to go to DR for a few days while the speculation continued over whether he did verbal or not? There was nothing stopping him from announcing his decision publically and ending the speculation and signing earlier as opposed to waiting 5 days before he did what everyone assumed he was set to do anyway, sign with SJU.
Devonte Pollard has not signed or verballed to anyone yet. If academics are an issue then I don't think you would be seeing schools like DePaul, PC, Cincy, Oregon and SJU pursuing hard for a kid that they don't think will qualify.
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Is Cincy still the leader at this point? Two months ago Rothstein and others tweeted how much they were hearing about Cincy being all but done. Now, there's nothing for a few weeks from anyone.
Could this kid be waiting to see if Chandler gets cleared and comes to SJU before ruling out SJU? Is that a possible scenario?
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Can you imagine if the roles were reversed what this board would be like?
In other words a top 100 player rumored to be headed to SJU. still won't make it official and keeps flirting with taking more visits with no decision in sight?
That is what Cincinnati is going through now.
Slightly different, but Chandler is putting us through the same thing.
Chandler isn't putting us thru anything. The staff doesn't want him verballed unless the NCAA gives him their blessing. And he understands that as well.
Chandler is 100% academics. Unlike Obekpa we don't read recruiting stories weekly about him still making up his mind despite rumors that he is headed to Cincinnati.
I still wonder if there is some other issue there like qualifying with Obekpa. Like I've said before, most good ayers don't forego both signing periods on purpose as they are making their decisions. Even Amile Jefferson who dragged it out chose during the spring signing. I have to think there is a hitch. If he loved Cincy that much, he would have verballed and/or signed already unless there was something holding him back. I have a hard time believing that he's just taking his sweet time as we're already headed into the summer just about.
Why did Sanchez verbal to SJU on his visit and proceed to go to DR for a few days while the speculation continued over whether he did verbal or not? There was nothing stopping him from announcing his decision publically and ending the speculation and signing earlier as opposed to waiting 5 days before he did what everyone assumed he was set to do anyway, sign with SJU.
Devonte Pollard has not signed or verballed to anyone yet. If academics are an issue then I don't think you would be seeing schools like DePaul, PC, Cincy, Oregon and SJU pursuing hard for a kid that they don't think will qualify.
Sanchez is different. He signed during the signing period. I just find it a bit odd that's all. These schools will still pursue if a kid still has a chance to qualify and is talented. I'm just wondering if there is some hitch we don't know about. Osna is not great at getting these kids to qualifying status.
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Can you imagine if the roles were reversed what this board would be like?
In other words a top 100 player rumored to be headed to SJU. still won't make it official and keeps flirting with taking more visits with no decision in sight?
That is what Cincinnati is going through now.
Slightly different, but Chandler is putting us through the same thing.
Chandler isn't putting us thru anything. The staff doesn't want him verballed unless the NCAA gives him their blessing. And he understands that as well.
His state of mind aside, his academic situation alone is giving our fans some agita.
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Can you imagine if the roles were reversed what this board would be like?
In other words a top 100 player rumored to be headed to SJU. still won't make it official and keeps flirting with taking more visits with no decision in sight?
That is what Cincinnati is going through now.
Slightly different, but Chandler is putting us through the same thing.
Chandler isn't putting us thru anything. The staff doesn't want him verballed unless the NCAA gives him their blessing. And he understands that as well.
Chandler is 100% academics. Unlike Obekpa we don't read recruiting stories weekly about him still making up his mind despite rumors that he is headed to Cincinnati.
I still wonder if there is some other issue there like qualifying with Obekpa. Like I've said before, most good ayers don't forego both signing periods on purpose as they are making their decisions. Even Amile Jefferson who dragged it out chose during the spring signing. I have to think there is a hitch. If he loved Cincy that much, he would have verballed and/or signed already unless there was something holding him back. I have a hard time believing that he's just taking his sweet time as we're already headed into the summer just about.
Why did Sanchez verbal to SJU on his visit and proceed to go to DR for a few days while the speculation continued over whether he did verbal or not? There was nothing stopping him from announcing his decision publically and ending the speculation and signing earlier as opposed to waiting 5 days before he did what everyone assumed he was set to do anyway, sign with SJU.
Devonte Pollard has not signed or verballed to anyone yet. If academics are an issue then I don't think you would be seeing schools like DePaul, PC, Cincy, Oregon and SJU pursuing hard for a kid that they don't think will qualify.
Sanchez is different. He signed during the signing period. I just find it a bit odd that's all. These schools will still pursue if a kid still has a chance to qualify and is talented. I'm just wondering if there is some hitch we don't know about. Osna is not great at getting these kids to qualifying status.
I agree with you 100% Marcus, any top 150 kid not signed at this point is very odd and there has to be a reason for it. Daniels was a late signing last year for UCONN but the kid was hoping not to go to college at all and was weighing his options with the NBA labor deal in flux. Pollard is puzzling too.
As for Obekpa it has to be grades or he isn't happy with his current list of schools.
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Chris continues to play in AAU tournaments as well, odd. His offensive improvement is noted, playing for New Heights 17U team this weekend. Moose may have written the article. Only kidding guys!
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Where are we getting the theory of academics being an issue? I never read that anywhere. He has no history of moving from school to school with a trail of poor grades. He's probably a bright kid if he can handle the transition to a new country. I'm not buying into the academics.
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He's just a kid with no real idea what he wants to do. He has a lot of options and he's probably being told a million things about where to go, can't blame him for taking his time - it's a big decision.
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He's just a kid with no real idea what he wants to do. He has a lot of options and he's probably being told a million things about where to go, can't blame him for taking his time - it's a big decision.
Why can't you blame him for taking his time? How hard is it to pick a college?
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This is puzzling. If he is such a Cincy lock, why hasnt he commited?
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Where are we getting the theory of academics being an issue? I never read that anywhere. He has no history of moving from school to school with a trail of poor grades. He's probably a bright kid if he can handle the transition to a new country. I'm not buying into the academics.
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Actually, first semester there was some talk about academics being an issue with obekpa but that talk had quieted. I'm not saying academics are his problem. I'm just saying that top kids that are uncommitted after the second signing period are rare and I'm not sure why it seems this kid is still far from committing. Its already almost summer. Usually it's only kids that are waiting for SAT's or other issues.
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In Alex Kline's latest Rivals.com update on several prospects he says that "rumors" are that Obekpa's two favs are Cincy and SJU.
http://stjohns.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1369652 (http://stjohns.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1369652)
With no timetable in play, three more critical decisions remain in the class of 2012. Those college decisions come from Christopher Obekpa , Devonta Pollard and Jordan Dickerson . Obekpa, the 2012 power forward from Our Savior New American in New York, has no official decision date or range. Cincinnati and St. John's are rumored to be the favorites with Providence, UConn, Oregon and DePaul sprinkled in.
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Where are we getting the theory of academics being an issue? I never read that anywhere. He has no history of moving from school to school with a trail of poor grades. He's probably a bright kid if he can handle the transition to a new country. I'm not buying into the academics.
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Actually, first semester there was some talk about academics being an issue with obekpa but that talk had quieted. I'm not saying academics are his problem. I'm just saying that top kids that are uncommitted after the second signing period are rare and I'm not sure why it seems this kid is still far from committing. Its already almost summer. Usually it's only kids that are waiting for SAT's or other issues.
I agree with this being the reason for the usuall cases. This one seems to fall under the unusual scenario. I hope he winds up here. The staff would help him reach his potential and he'd be a key piece here. I hear good things about his character - works hard on improving. W
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In Alex Kline's latest Rivals.com update on several prospects he says that "rumors" are that Obekpa's two favs are Cincy and SJU.
http://stjohns.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1369652 (http://stjohns.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1369652)
With no timetable in play, three more critical decisions remain in the class of 2012. Those college decisions come from Christopher Obekpa , Devonta Pollard and Jordan Dickerson . Obekpa, the 2012 power forward from Our Savior New American in New York, has no official decision date or range. Cincinnati and St. John's are rumored to be the favorites with Providence, UConn, Oregon and DePaul sprinkled in.
That seems odd. A couple weeks ago Chris tweeted "who should get the commit?" and he didn't list us... This whole process is plain weird. Could he be waiting on Chandler?
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In Alex Kline's latest Rivals.com update on several prospects he says that "rumors" are that Obekpa's two favs are Cincy and SJU.
http://stjohns.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1369652 (http://stjohns.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1369652)
With no timetable in play, three more critical decisions remain in the class of 2012. Those college decisions come from Christopher Obekpa , Devonta Pollard and Jordan Dickerson . Obekpa, the 2012 power forward from Our Savior New American in New York, has no official decision date or range. Cincinnati and St. John's are rumored to be the favorites with Providence, UConn, Oregon and DePaul sprinkled in.
That seems odd. A couple weeks ago Chris tweeted "who should get the commit?" and he didn't list us... This whole process is plain weird. Could he be waiting on Chandler?
He did list us in a second tweet also including Uconn
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Jeez....This kid needs to make up his mind. It is already the end of May. Time to rip the band-aid off and stop ripping hairs off one at a time
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Jeez....This kid needs to make up his mind. It is already the end of May. Time to rip the band-aid off and stop ripping hairs off one at a time
Yeah, I wish he would make up his mind so I can decide whether to criticize his lack of an offensive game, or to emphasize his great defensive ability and how the team needs his shot blocking prowess!! :)
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Jeez....This kid needs to make up his mind. It is already the end of May. Time to rip the band-aid off and stop ripping hairs off one at a time
Yeah, I wish he would make up his mind so I can decide whether to criticize his lack of an offensive game, or to emphasize his great defensive ability and how the team needs his shot blocking prowess!! :)
Hahahaha
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Saga continues!
“@JonRothstein: St. John's has re-emerged in the Chris Obekpa sweepstakes. The Red Storm are in the mix for the shot blocker and have a legitimate shot too.”
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I Saga continues!
“@JonRothstein: St. John's has re-emerged in the Chris Obekpa sweepstakes. The Red Storm are in the mix for the shot blocker and have a legitimate shot too.”
I like Jon good guy, funny tweets. Not the greatest sources but did hear something similar today.
Not sure I buy it yet. Although Rothstein always maintained Cincy was the leader so someone told him something.
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Amazing! Always room for a D3 shot blocker. ;)
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Kknew it all along, there's no way his best friend is coming here and were out of the race that quick
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“@TheoRabinowitz: Remember #stjbb fans: Obekpa and Felix Balamou will both be playing at iS8 in Queens on Saturday afternoon at 2:45PM. #stjbb”
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Insanity
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Insanity
Which way are you leaning right now? Still think there is no way?
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So who has the scoop, how many ships do we really have? If we get chandler an obekpa were headed to the sweet 16
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Let's stay grounded. guys... ;D
If true though it is certainly a nice thing to sleep on tonight.
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Insanity
Which way are you leaning right now? Still think there is no way?
I was told just like a lot of others that we were out. It wasn't me leaning one way or the other.
Remember people also got all excited when he visited us out of the blue after it being all Cincy, but then he disappeared. I wouldn't get too excited one way or the other. The recruitment has been all of over the place so who knows. If he comes great were getting a game changer.
*I still don't think this has any impact on Chandler. It just lessens the blow if NCAA negs him. Remember staff always wanted two bigs.
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Let's stay grounded. guys... ;D
If true though it is certainly a nice thing to sleep on tonight.
Must have been me sticking up for him when people said he had D2/D3 offensive game :)
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Perhaps he's waiting to see whether or not Chandler qualifies?
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Let's stay grounded. guys... ;D
If true though it is certainly a nice thing to sleep on tonight.
Must have been me sticking up for him when people said he had D2/D3 offensive game :)
Where the hell are those guys tonight....??? ;D ;D
He'll go from "what a coup if we could land him" after his visit to "limited offensively" Cincy can have him back to another top 100 player in the fold by Lavin....
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Perhaps he's waiting to see whether or not Chandler qualifies?
As was said before especially during the Nolan/Chandler talk, there will for both if it comes to that.
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SMH at people reading selectively. I said throughout my posts he's an impact player on this level because of what he does on the defensive end.
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SMH at people reading selectively. I said throughout my posts he's an impact player on this level because of what he does on the defensive end.
Theo
Take a joke. Its a little rib. Everyone saw your posts that you are fond of his defensive game.
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Him being a terrible offensive player does not take away from his shot blocking capabilities. I still think hes offensive skills are below the D1 level.
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Him being a terrible offensive player does not take away from his shot blocking capabilities. I still think hes offensive skills are below the D1 level.
Me too. It's not a huge problem though, his value is almost completely on the defensive end and any offense he can provide would just be a bonus.
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Would LOVE to see Obekpa come here. From the games of his I watched, he's a game changer on defense, and will probaby reject/prevent more buckets than he will score, which is fine with me. If Chandler comes too, we will have gone from having the weakest, non-existent bench in the BE, to one of, if not the, best bench in the BE, all in one freakin year. That would be amazing, IMO.
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Maybe Cinci couldn't come up with the money. Or maybe he got off the plane and then got right back on. That's what I would do. What a disgusting hole.
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Here is video of one of their is8 playoff games from 2 weeks ago if you would like to watch it:
1 | Brooklyn Badgers Vs Team Flight (OSNA) | 2012 IS8 Nike Playoffs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rRNzlqYTTI#ws)
Felix is #10 and Obekpa is #12
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When Shelden Williams was a freshman his offensive talent was extremely low his frosh year at Duke. He traveled nearly every time he got the ball. I assume he was still more talented than Obekpa, never having seen him play, based on all accounts, since Shelden averaged 8 points his frosh year. That said, Shelden was a beast rebounder/shot blocker. By his senior year, he averaged 19 a game and was an offensive force in college...of course until his offensive deficiencies were totally exposed in the NBA. That said, just using him as an example of how a top defensive player that is EXTREMELY raw offensively can make an impact immediately, and also can become quite talented offensively with the right coaching. Obekpa would be a great signing!
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I'm fine with dunks and putbacks. That's what we have our staff for to develop his talent. His defensive timing is uncanny though, and he runs the court real well. He can be a great equalizer at the defensive end ala Georgiu Dieng. Teams would have to change plans just because of his shotblocking ability. Furthermore, he fits our aggressive zones perfectly and allows our other players to gamble a bit more. I could care less about his raw offensive ability at this point. Sign him up if we can get him. It would make us extremely tough entering this season. He can take time an work on his offense.
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With our staff he would only improve offensively as time goes on.I ,too, would love to have him
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http://www.zagsblog.com/2012/05/30/chris-obekpa-remains-undecided/ (http://www.zagsblog.com/2012/05/30/chris-obekpa-remains-undecided/)
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http://www.zagsblog.com/2012/05/30/chris-obekpa-remains-undecided/ (http://www.zagsblog.com/2012/05/30/chris-obekpa-remains-undecided/)
don't know how accurate the report is - but to hear we are still in it is great news.
Chandler or Obekpa, or both would be amazing and really set this team up for success in the very near future.
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School starts in August, its almost June doesn't he have to make his decision soon??
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School starts in August, its almost June doesn't he have to make his decision soon??
In a normal world.
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When Shelden Williams was a freshman his offensive talent was extremely low his frosh year at Duke. He traveled nearly every time he got the ball. I assume he was still more talented than Obekpa, never having seen him play, based on all accounts, since Shelden averaged 8 points his frosh year. That said, Shelden was a beast rebounder/shot blocker. By his senior year, he averaged 19 a game and was an offensive force in college...of course until his offensive deficiencies were totally exposed in the NBA. That said, just using him as an example of how a top defensive player that is EXTREMELY raw offensively can make an impact immediately, and also can become quite talented offensively with the right coaching. Obekpa would be a great signing!
While I'm sick of you constantly referencing Duke . . . ;) . . . Exactly the point. How many bigs do get to D1 fully developed anyway? Very few, and even fewer of the ilk that didn't start playing until the age of 14 on the dirt courts of some African country.
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When Shelden Williams was a freshman his offensive talent was extremely low his frosh year at Duke. He traveled nearly every time he got the ball. I assume he was still more talented than Obekpa, never having seen him play, based on all accounts, since Shelden averaged 8 points his frosh year. That said, Shelden was a beast rebounder/shot blocker. By his senior year, he averaged 19 a game and was an offensive force in college...of course until his offensive deficiencies were totally exposed in the NBA. That said, just using him as an example of how a top defensive player that is EXTREMELY raw offensively can make an impact immediately, and also can become quite talented offensively with the right coaching. Obekpa would be a great signing!
While I'm sick of you constantly referencing Duke . . . ;) . . . Exactly the point. How many bigs do get to D1 fully developed anyway? Very few, and even fewer of the ilk that didn't start playing until the age of 14 on the dirt courts of some African country.
Very good point. And, even after they get here and have time to develop, how many bigs in our conference would you say have "good" or above average offensive-games?? (No Sims, Drummond, Melo anymore)
Pitt has that 7 footer coming in, and Dieng can put back offensive rebounds, but after that what other bigs have an impact on the offensive-end?
Yarou on nova? Melvin and Cooley, sure, but they're hardly true bigs.
Chris will be able to change the game on the defensive side of the ball, and won't be asked to do much other than rebound on the opposite end.
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When Shelden Williams was a freshman his offensive talent was extremely low his frosh year at Duke. He traveled nearly every time he got the ball. I assume he was still more talented than Obekpa, never having seen him play, based on all accounts, since Shelden averaged 8 points his frosh year. That said, Shelden was a beast rebounder/shot blocker. By his senior year, he averaged 19 a game and was an offensive force in college...of course until his offensive deficiencies were totally exposed in the NBA. That said, just using him as an example of how a top defensive player that is EXTREMELY raw offensively can make an impact immediately, and also can become quite talented offensively with the right coaching. Obekpa would be a great signing!
While I'm sick of you constantly referencing Duke . . . ;) . . . Exactly the point. How many bigs do get to D1 fully developed anyway? Very few, and even fewer of the ilk that didn't start playing until the age of 14 on the dirt courts of some African country.
Very good point. And, even after they get here and have time to develop, how many bigs in our conference would you say have "good" or above average offensive-games?? (No Sims, Drummond, Melo anymore)
Pitt has that 7 footer coming in, and Dieng can put back offensive rebounds, but after that what other bigs have an impact on the offensive-end?
Yarou on nova? Melvin and Cooley, sure, but they're hardly true bigs.
Chris will be able to change the game on the defensive side of the ball, and won't be asked to do much other than rebound on the opposite end.
Cooley not a true big?
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He's white.
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When Shelden Williams was a freshman his offensive talent was extremely low his frosh year at Duke. He traveled nearly every time he got the ball. I assume he was still more talented than Obekpa, never having seen him play, based on all accounts, since Shelden averaged 8 points his frosh year. That said, Shelden was a beast rebounder/shot blocker. By his senior year, he averaged 19 a game and was an offensive force in college...of course until his offensive deficiencies were totally exposed in the NBA. That said, just using him as an example of how a top defensive player that is EXTREMELY raw offensively can make an impact immediately, and also can become quite talented offensively with the right coaching. Obekpa would be a great signing!
While I'm sick of you constantly referencing Duke . . . ;) . . . Exactly the point. How many bigs do get to D1 fully developed anyway? Very few, and even fewer of the ilk that didn't start playing until the age of 14 on the dirt courts of some African country.
Very good point. And, even after they get here and have time to develop, how many bigs in our conference would you say have "good" or above average offensive-games?? (No Sims, Drummond, Melo anymore)
Pitt has that 7 footer coming in, and Dieng can put back offensive rebounds, but after that what other bigs have an impact on the offensive-end?
Yarou on nova? Melvin and Cooley, sure, but they're hardly true bigs.
Chris will be able to change the game on the defensive side of the ball, and won't be asked to do much other than rebound on the opposite end.
Cooley not a true big?
I guess you're right. I just always thought of him as undersized, but I looked it up.. he's listed at 6'9. That counts haha.
My point was just that there are so few big men with good offensive skills. And it's not just incoming freshmen. The post up game isn't what it used to be. If Chris comes here (big IF) and rebounds and plays defense... that'll be a big boost. I doubt he would be asked to do much more than that.
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When Shelden Williams was a freshman his offensive talent was extremely low his frosh year at Duke. He traveled nearly every time he got the ball. I assume he was still more talented than Obekpa, never having seen him play, based on all accounts, since Shelden averaged 8 points his frosh year. That said, Shelden was a beast rebounder/shot blocker. By his senior year, he averaged 19 a game and was an offensive force in college...of course until his offensive deficiencies were totally exposed in the NBA. That said, just using him as an example of how a top defensive player that is EXTREMELY raw offensively can make an impact immediately, and also can become quite talented offensively with the right coaching. Obekpa would be a great signing!
While I'm sick of you constantly referencing Duke . . . ;) . . . Exactly the point. How many bigs do get to D1 fully developed anyway? Very few, and even fewer of the ilk that didn't start playing until the age of 14 on the dirt courts of some African country.
Very good point. And, even after they get here and have time to develop, how many bigs in our conference would you say have "good" or above average offensive-games?? (No Sims, Drummond, Melo anymore)
Pitt has that 7 footer coming in, and Dieng can put back offensive rebounds, but after that what other bigs have an impact on the offensive-end?
Yarou on nova? Melvin and Cooley, sure, but they're hardly true bigs.
Chris will be able to change the game on the defensive side of the ball, and won't be asked to do much other than rebound on the opposite end.
I don't think Melo had anything that resembled an above average offensive game. Not in the least. He was a dunk and putback guy.
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Hakeem Olajuwan was very raw offensively when he got to the U of Houston and turned out to be one of the best scoring centers in the history of the NBA. Even before he left college he became a good offensive player. Not saying the same will be true of CO but there is obvious the possibility of significant improvement.
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Obekpa seems to enjoy playing in the backyard of St John's. His game will fit nicely here. I think he's very high on Lavin's list. Perhaps he's just having a hard time choosing another program. There are too many positives for him here.
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Here is video of one of their is8 playoff games from 2 weeks ago if you would like to watch it:
1 | Brooklyn Badgers Vs Team Flight (OSNA) | 2012 IS8 Nike Playoffs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rRNzlqYTTI#ws)
Felix is #10 and Obekpa is #12
Just watched this one. Felix continues to impress the hell out of me! I counted 31 points on a variety of different ways. Deep, mid range, short range pull ups, post ups, tough finishes, and of course some highlight dunks. If he stays at St Johns for 4 years he will be a great player for us.
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Here is video of one of their is8 playoff games from 2 weeks ago if you would like to watch it:
1 | Brooklyn Badgers Vs Team Flight (OSNA) | 2012 IS8 Nike Playoffs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rRNzlqYTTI#ws)
Felix is #10 and Obekpa is #12
Just watched this one. Felix continues to impress the hell out of me! I counted 31 points on a variety of different ways. Deep, mid range, short range pull ups, post ups, tough finishes, and of course some highlight dunks. If he stays at St Johns for 4 years he will be a great player for us.
Agree. Balamou can really do it all andis just scratching the surface right now. Reminds me a lot of Ben Gordon at times, but without the outside shooting consistency right now. If he can find some range as a 3-point shooter, he can be excellent. I don't know how a kid like this skates through unranked in lower NY. As far as Obekpa goes, his timing is ridiculous on the defensive glass both for blocks and rebounds. If we could find some way to land him, teams would really struggle getting shots off if they penetrated past the outside of our zone. Fwiw, Jakarr, Sanchez and Amir are all excellent shot blockers as well off the ball.
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BTW-Told that the people advising Obekpa are complete clowns and have no clue what they are doing.
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BTW-Told that the people advising Obekpa are complete clowns and have no clue what they are doing.
An indecisive group I take it! Lol
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BTW-Told that the people advising Obekpa are complete clowns and have no clue what they are doing.
That seems to be the case as just about everybody is committed already and this kid still seems clueless about what he wants to do. It makes sense. All I need to know is whether or not this is good or bad for SJU? At this point, the longer it takes I'm guessing the better for us, as Lavin builds a relationship with the kid over time. Maybe by August we'll know what he wants to do.
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BTW-Told that the people advising Obekpa are complete clowns and have no clue what they are doing.
That seems to be the case as just about everybody is committed already and this kid still seems clueless about what he wants to do. It makes sense. All I need to know is whether or not this is good or bad for SJU? At this point, the longer it takes I'm guessing the better for us, as Lavin builds a relationship with the kid over time. Maybe by August we'll know what he wants to do.
Or next week.
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BTW-Told that the people advising Obekpa are complete clowns and have no clue what they are doing.
i know we're in need of a big man, but is it worth the risk to take on a kid that has clowns in his ear? will he/they be a pain to deal with for any program (ala Nuri)?
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BTW-Told that the people advising Obekpa are complete clowns and have no clue what they are doing.
i know we're in need of a big man, but is it worth the risk to take on a kid that has clowns in his ear? will he/they be a pain to deal with for any program (ala Nuri)?
Most every kid who has potential in basketball has clowns in his ear. It comes with the territory when recruiting kids nowadays.
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BTW-Told that the people advising Obekpa are complete clowns and have no clue what they are doing.
That seems to be the case as just about everybody is committed already and this kid still seems clueless about what he wants to do. It makes sense. All I need to know is whether or not this is good or bad for SJU? At this point, the longer it takes I'm guessing the better for us, as Lavin builds a relationship with the kid over time. Maybe by August we'll know what he wants to do.
I don't think it means anything for SJU or Cincy because Lavin and Cronin know how to recruit and know the rules.
But the kid is at IS8 games when he should be visiting schools and deciding where to go.
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BTW-Told that the people advising Obekpa are complete clowns and have no clue what they are doing.
i know we're in need of a big man, but is it worth the risk to take on a kid that has clowns in his ear? will he/they be a pain to deal with for any program (ala Nuri)?
Most every kid who has potential in basketball has clowns in his ear. It comes with the territory when recruiting kids nowadays.
Sad, but true Happy!
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BTW-Told that the people advising Obekpa are complete clowns and have no clue what they are doing.
That seems to be the case as just about everybody is committed already and this kid still seems clueless about what he wants to do. It makes sense. All I need to know is whether or not this is good or bad for SJU? At this point, the longer it takes I'm guessing the better for us, as Lavin builds a relationship with the kid over time. Maybe by August we'll know what he wants to do.
I don't think it means anything for SJU or Cincy because Lavin and Cronin know how to recruit and know the rules.
But the kid is at IS8 games when he should be visiting schools and deciding where to go.
Fordham, where you think Obekpa ends up at this point?
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BTW-Told that the people advising Obekpa are complete clowns and have no clue what they are doing.
That seems to be the case as just about everybody is committed already and this kid still seems clueless about what he wants to do. It makes sense. All I need to know is whether or not this is good or bad for SJU? At this point, the longer it takes I'm guessing the better for us, as Lavin builds a relationship with the kid over time. Maybe by August we'll know what he wants to do.
Fordham, where u think he ends up?
I don't think it means anything for SJU or Cincy because Lavin and Cronin know how to recruit and know the rules.
But the kid is at IS8 games when he should be visiting schools and deciding where to go.
I have no idea Marcus. A week ago I was like everyone else, Cincy bound.
But now who knows. I sure do like the picture of him on the back line of an SJU press with the type of athletes we can roll out now though.
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It looks like we're right in the middle of it again and with Lavin reportedly "in constant contact" with Obekpa I like our chances down the stretch.
Theo - or others - what time are Felix and CO playing at IS8 on Saturday?
queensfinest and I will be there wearing SJU shirts.
Why not have as many of us there as possible to encourage the O man to make the right decision and get this over with?
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It looks like we're right in the middle of it again and with Lavin reportedly "in constant contact" with Obekpa I like our chances down the stretch.
Theo - or others - what time are Felix and CO playing at IS8 on Saturday?
queensfinest and I will be there wearing SJU shirts.
Why not have as many of us there as possible to encourage the O man to make the right decision and get this over with?
where does it say lavin is "in constant contact"?
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Zagoria's blog now says: "...St. John’s head coach Steve Lavin and Obekpa remain in touch on a weekly basis...."
I pulled the quote from his blog when I first saw it and saved it in quotes. Either it was changed or I'm delusional - probably the latter - sorry.
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Zagoria's blog now says: "...St. John’s head coach Steve Lavin and Obekpa remain in touch on a weekly basis...."
I pulled the quote from his blog when I first saw it and saved it in quotes. Either it was changed or I'm delusional - probably the latter - sorry.
Your not delusional. It was changed.
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Zagoria's blog now says: "...St. John’s head coach Steve Lavin and Obekpa remain in touch on a weekly basis...."
I pulled the quote from his blog when I first saw it and saved it in quotes. Either it was changed or I'm delusional - probably the latter - sorry.
Your not delusional. It was changed.
Thanks Moose that's a relief.
You know me well enough to have said: "You're delusional all right but it was changed."
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Perhaps "Constant Contact" and "Dead Period" don't go together?
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When Shelden Williams was a freshman his offensive talent was extremely low his frosh year at Duke. He traveled nearly every time he got the ball. I assume he was still more talented than Obekpa, never having seen him play, based on all accounts, since Shelden averaged 8 points his frosh year. That said, Shelden was a beast rebounder/shot blocker. By his senior year, he averaged 19 a game and was an offensive force in college...of course until his offensive deficiencies were totally exposed in the NBA. That said, just using him as an example of how a top defensive player that is EXTREMELY raw offensively can make an impact immediately, and also can become quite talented offensively with the right coaching. Obekpa would be a great signing!
Even at the NBA level, look at what Tyson Chandler did for the Knicks defense basically singlehandedly. Was his contribution not paramount to the Knicks (relative) success this year? Tyson has no offensive skillset to speak of, he's got no post moves, no face up moves, no baby hook, just a sick rebounder who can flush it on an alleyoop. Think about how many extra possessions the Knicks had because Chandler tipped a ball back out on offense that he didn't even get credit for boarding. Blocked shots and offensive rebounds are demoralizing for the other team. If big Chris can bring those 2 things, then I don't give a shit if he doesn't attempt one field goal outside of a put back all season.
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Perhaps "Constant Contact" and "Dead Period" don't go together?
+1
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Perhaps "Constant Contact" and "Dead Period" don't go together?
+1
But Zagoria's retraction of the phrase renders the question moot - does it not?
Anyone know when Obekpa and Balamou play on Saturday at IS8?
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Perhaps "Constant Contact" and "Dead Period" don't go together?
+1
But Zagoria's retraction of the phrase renders the question moot - does it not?
Anyone know when Obekpa and Balamou play on Saturday at IS8?
2:45
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Perhaps "Constant Contact" and "Dead Period" don't go together?
+1
But Zagoria's retraction of the phrase renders the question moot - does it not?
Anyone know when Obekpa and Balamou play on Saturday at IS8?
2:45
Which in is8 time usually means 3:30 :)
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DaveKrupinski Hearing Chris Obekpa is a very strong lean to St. John's. No date set for announcement but hearing commitment to Storm is imminent #stjbb
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DaveKrupinski Hearing Chris Obekpa is a very strong lean to St. John's. No date set for announcement but hearing commitment to Storm is imminent #stjbb
WOW!!!!
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DaveKrupinski Hearing Chris Obekpa is a very strong lean to St. John's. No date set for announcement but hearing commitment to Storm is imminent #stjbb
Amazing how things can turn like this in recruiting. One minute we kissed him goodbye to Cincy, now this. What a "stellar" class this will be if we add Obekpa. Then I can only imagine if Chandler comes aboard too, WOW!!!
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I'M SHOCKED! Absolutely SHOCKED. I guess we should NEVER EVER count out Lavin and Staff. #inlavinwetrust
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Hey!!
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DaveKrupinski Hearing Chris Obekpa is a very strong lean to St. John's. No date set for announcement but hearing commitment to Storm is imminent #stjbb
Oh man I hope he is right
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Great to hear Dave. Thanks for passing it along.
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Unreal! great news.
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Join the welcoming committee at IS8 on Saturday at 2:45.
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Zach Braziller @NYPost_Brazille
Piggybacking on what @DaveKrupinski just tweeted, I've heard #stjbb is in great shape for Obekpa. #boyshoops
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Where did all the Lavin/staff haters go?
Awful quiet from those clowns these days.
Where you at Shurina Cheese? ;)
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Why isn't Dave breaking this on the board here!!!! LOL!!!
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Dave basically saying its a done deal. CO to STJ.
Commitment imminent
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Too bad he has Div 4 offensive skills.... ;D
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Perhaps "Constant Contact" and "Dead Period" don't go together?
Phone calls are allowed even during the Dead Period. But you are sort of correct. Cleary Zags did not want to imply that Lavin was stepping over the line in terms of permissable contact and perhaps he thought his use of language did just that. Thus he changed it.
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Remember in the beginning of April when there was a decent size faction of people whining about lack of commitments?
Patience grasshoppers...... Lesson learned, nervous nellies?
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Where is Moose??
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I knew this kid was coming to St Johns the whole time.
I will say this, Dave has been on point with commitments in the past.
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Where did all the Lavin/staff haters go?
Awful quiet from those clowns these days.
Where you at Shurina Cheese? ;)
Haha, wondering the same thing.
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Let's go Felix !!! Let's cut Felix in on the credit for this one , Lav is Lav but Felix has been in his ear for sure. Felix already my favorite johnny!
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Let's go Felix !!! Let's cut Felix in on the credit for this one , Lav is Lav but Felix has been in his ear for sure. Felix already my favorite johnny!
Totally agree with giving Felix the assist, but Lav is truly a recruiting wizard! Goes from sitting out the entire year, losing committed and enrolled kids throughout the year, negative rumors and lies spread about his future at the program, the BE under extreme duress, and he STILL manages to put together an outstanding class. If Chandler comes too, it's just ridiculous!
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“@rumbleSBN: Recruiting update: Chris Obekpa rumored to be leaning towards St. John's. #stjbb http://t.co/GQNHi61E (http://t.co/GQNHi61E)”
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Cincy boards must be spinning
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There was a time he was a Cincy lock. Something happened there that I don't know what (had nothing to do with other committments) I might be more surprised than anyone at how his recruitment has shook out. For basketball it makes a lot of sense in a lot of ways for both parties.
I'm still digging for more info but all good signs. I know that Zach and I have different sources.
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If this is true the staff has had a TREMENDOUS year recruiting.
There were times in the late winter, early spring, when even the most confident fans would have had to admit the tide seemed to be going against us. Decommitments, Lav's health, losing a few blowouts, talk of transfers,...
To think that the staff has literally addressed every need we had. Wow. Doesn't guarantee a thing in the fall, but damn it will be nice to see us working with a full assortment of tools.
One question though: Dave, you said Chris's recruitment wasn't affected by any other recruits, but does him signing close the door for Chandler?
Or is it presumed there's a scholarship waiting for him somehow if he's eligible?
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Cinci fights a lot. That could have something to do with it. Just speculating.
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Huge get for the staff. imagine the press with all the guys that can jump out of the gym and CO chillin under the basket if the press gets beat. The next few years should be pretty fun
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Where did all the Lavin/staff haters go?
Awful quiet from those clowns these days.
Where you at Shurina Cheese? ;)
Don't believe there are any Lavin haters and if anyone is they are nuts. As for sCheese he is just an agitator who likes to get under people's skin and some of you fall for it every time. He does not believe what he posts.
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There was a time he was a Cincy lock. Something happened there that I don't know what (had nothing to do with other committments) I might be more surprised than anyone at how his recruitment has shook out. For basketball it makes a lot of sense in a lot of ways for both parties.
I'm still digging for more info but all good signs. I know that Zach and I have different sources.
with this in mind, does anyone have any concern of us being the "back-up plan"? is he truly going to be happy coming to sju?
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There was a time he was a Cincy lock. Something happened there that I don't know what (had nothing to do with other committments) I might be more surprised than anyone at how his recruitment has shook out. For basketball it makes a lot of sense in a lot of ways for both parties.
I'm still digging for more info but all good signs. I know that Zach and I have different sources.
with this in mind, does anyone have any concern of us being the "back-up plan"? is he truly going to be happy coming to sju?
Come on! Enjoy the fact we seem to be back in this. Geez!!
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There was a time he was a Cincy lock. Something happened there that I don't know what (had nothing to do with other committments) I might be more surprised than anyone at how his recruitment has shook out. For basketball it makes a lot of sense in a lot of ways for both parties.
I'm still digging for more info but all good signs. I know that Zach and I have different sources.
with this in mind, does anyone have any concern of us being the "back-up pl
an"? is he truly going to be happy coming to sju?
No. No one should be concerned about that. We've recruited a dozen shot blockers over the last 25 years. How many of them were actually shot blockers? We, SJ, you, me, and every SJ fan has waited an eternity for a player who could change the game defensively. There is no reason to question his sincerity. It doesn't matter as long as he comes. This kid signs up, and the buzz is back at SJ. Immediately.
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Too bad he has Div 4 offensive skills.... ;D
In a week people are going to worry about him going pro in a year :)
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Too bad he has Div 4 offensive skills.... ;D
In a week people are going to worry about him going pro in a year :)
Haha. Exactly MJM
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This is truly great news. I know it is not set in stone till he signs, but it seems as though the information coming from a couple of sources seems honest. I myself can not wait till the new season. Now that the Rangers are out of playoffs, it is time to watch the yanks and as the season gets longer in baseball it just means shorter time till the Johnnies take the court again.
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Not done yet
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Lavin had him and Sampson as his top targets.
It is a great fit for the player and the program.
As a fan I sure hope it is true.
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Too bad he has Div 4 offensive skills.... ;D
In a week people are going to worry about him going pro in a year :)
Wow you are so right!!!
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Well Happy's ominous post has me a little worried.
But assuming it happens, this has me pumped for next season. I'm not expecting CO to do a lot. But, it's exciting just to think about what Dunlap can do with a full stable of horses.
I think we're finally going to consistently see that "baseline-to-baseline" attack that we've been hearing about and seeing glimpses of for 3 years.
I just hope CO picks up the responsibilities of the zone quickly. Everybody's talking about him anchoring the back line and swatting shots all over the gym - don't forget he's going to have to rotate to cover guys on the weak-side perimeter too. He's going to have to have a steep learning curve if he's going to be effective his freshmen season.
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"say hello to Chris" per the MC at IS8
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Well Happy's ominous post has me a little worried.
But assuming it happens, this has me pumped for next season. I'm not expecting CO to do a lot. But, it's exciting just to think about what Dunlap can do with a full stable of horses.
I think we're finally going to consistently see that "baseline-to-baseline" attack that we've been hearing about and seeing glimpses of for 3 years.
I just hope CO picks up the responsibilities of the zone quickly. Everybody's talking about him anchoring the back line and swatting shots all over the gym - don't forget he's going to have to rotate to cover guys on the weak-side perimeter too. He's going to have to have a steep learning curve if he's going to be effective his freshmen season.
Nothing to be worried about . I just heard he hasn't decided yet. The fact that Dave and others are saying we are back in it and possible leaders is a miracle considering how much of a cincy lean he was. .. Just hate seeing people go crazy when it's not a done deal. Hopefully it does because it would be huge for us . I'll be at is8 on Saturday hoping to see 2 ST john's recruits .. Not one :)
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Well Happy's ominous post has me a little worried.
But assuming it happens, this has me pumped for next season. I'm not expecting CO to do a lot. But, it's exciting just to think about what Dunlap can do with a full stable of horses.
I think we're finally going to consistently see that "baseline-to-baseline" attack that we've been hearing about and seeing glimpses of for 3 years.
I just hope CO picks up the responsibilities of the zone quickly. Everybody's talking about him anchoring the back line and swatting shots all over the gym - don't forget he's going to have to rotate to cover guys on the weak-side perimeter too. He's going to have to have a steep learning curve if he's going to be effective his freshmen season.
Nothing to be worried about . I just heard he hasn't decided yet. The fact that Dave and others are saying we are back in it and possible leaders is a miracle considering how much of a cincy lean he was. .. Just hate seeing people go crazy when it's not a done deal. Hopefully it does because it would be huge for us . I'll be at is8 on Saturday hoping to see 2 ST john's recruits .. Not one :)
you going ? I'm gonna text u tomorrow. depending on the markets maybe i won't go in saturday and meet up with u instead
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Well Happy's ominous post has me a little worried.
But assuming it happens, this has me pumped for next season. I'm not expecting CO to do a lot. But, it's exciting just to think about what Dunlap can do with a full stable of horses.
I think we're finally going to consistently see that "baseline-to-baseline" attack that we've been hearing about and seeing glimpses of for 3 years.
I just hope CO picks up the responsibilities of the zone quickly. Everybody's talking about him anchoring the back line and swatting shots all over the gym - don't forget he's going to have to rotate to cover guys on the weak-side perimeter too. He's going to have to have a steep learning curve if he's going to be effective his freshmen season.
Nothing to be worried about . I just heard he hasn't decided yet. The fact that Dave and others are saying we are back in it and possible leaders is a miracle considering how much of a cincy lean he was. .. Just hate seeing people go crazy when it's not a done deal. Hopefully it does because it would be huge for us . I'll be at is8 on Saturday hoping to see 2 ST john's recruits .. Not one :)
you going ? I'm gonna text u tomorrow. depending on the markets maybe i won't go in saturday and meet up with u instead
Sounds great. I'm definetly going to go.
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Nothing to be worried about . I just heard he hasn't decided yet. The fact that Dave and others are saying we are back in it and possible leaders is a miracle considering how much of a cincy lean he was. .. Just hate seeing people go crazy when it's not a done deal.
Heard the same thing this morning and also heard JUCO is looking like a real option for him at this point. Given his lack of annoucement it does make sense a little.
As Dave said, not too long ago this kid was a Cincy LOCK.
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Nothing to be worried about . I just heard he hasn't decided yet. The fact that Dave and others are saying we are back in it and possible leaders is a miracle considering how much of a cincy lean he was. .. Just hate seeing people go crazy when it's not a done deal.
Heard the same thing this morning and also heard JUCO is looking like a real option for him at this point. Given his lack of annoucement it does make sense a little.
As Dave said, not too long ago this kid was a Cincy LOCK.
What are the elidgibility concerns that are making him consider JUCO ?
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Jeez, am I the only one who is still saying, wake me up when he signs ? Are we really giving this "information" legs with a kid who seems to change his mind more often then his socks ?
Dave, don't mean to cast aspersions on you, but wake me up when he signs.
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Jeez, am I the only one who is still saying, wake me up when he signs ? Are we really giving this "information" legs with a kid who seems to change his mind more often then his socks ?
Dave, don't mean to cast aspersions on you, but wake me up when he signs.
Derk- this is a blog/fan site.
If you want to read just when he signs- read the newspaper, & check in here every other week.
I for one am happy to read about the twists & turns in recruiting & thats why I read every day.
In strong support of Chris- he hasnt changed his mind & given verbals to 2-3 schools like other recruits.
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So, who is NYC Baller over on the Cinci boards ?
http://www.bearcattalk.com/showthread.php?t=4491&page=83 (http://www.bearcattalk.com/showthread.php?t=4491&page=83)
Can't stand how prostate her fan base starts pointing fingers at us every time we sign (or are rumored to get) a recruit. Sour grapes have never been more prevalent.
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Jeez, am I the only one who is still saying, wake me up when he signs ? Are we really giving this "information" legs with a kid who seems to change his mind more often then his socks ?
Dave, don't mean to cast aspersions on you, but wake me up when he signs.
Derk- this is a blog/fan site.
If you want to read just when he signs- read the newspaper, & check in here every other week.
I for one am happy to read about the twists & turns in recruiting & thats why I read every day.
In strong support of Chris- he hasnt changed his mind & given verbals to 2-3 schools like other recruits.
"Happy to read about the twists and turns" of a confused kid ? If you want to be continually jerked around by 18 - 20 year old kids, good luck to you. So now we're a "strong lean". Love the terminology. And apparently the kid has changed his mind otherwise how do go from out of the picture to strong lean. And why? I would think everyone's cards are on the table with the possible exception of Oregon. But if he's still waiting for an Oregon trip then what do you make of the strong lean flip flop. Ridiculous.
All of this BTW has nothing to do with liking him or not. If he signs tomorrow I'd be very happy. Just stop the meaningless back and forth.
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Where is IS8 Saturday ?
do we know times our recruits are playing ?
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Where is IS8 Saturday ?
do we know times our recruits are playing ?
2:45 on Saturday at Is8 school in Jamaica.
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All this conjecture on the boards is mostly posters like us. I've never read where Chris came out
himself and said St Johns leads, then Cinn leads then back to St Johns.
We dont know the story at all.
Maybe its grades & he's not announcing till he qualifies.
Maybe he got a real late start in the process & hasnt yet visited all schools he's considering (Oregon?)
Maybe the kid loves basketball so much, that playing AAU now with his friends is huge & college choice can wait till June
We obviously are not privy to Chris's conversations with Lavin,
but I dont get the impression we're being jerked around.
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All this conjecture on the boards is mostly posters like us. I've never read where Chris came out
himself and said St Johns leads, then Cinn leads then back to St Johns.
We dont know the story at all.
Maybe its grades & he's not announcing till he qualifies.
Maybe he got a real late start in the process & hasnt yet visited all schools he's considering (Oregon?)
Maybe the kid loves basketball so much, that playing AAU now with his friends is huge & college choice can wait till June
We obviously are not privy to Chris's conversations with Lavin,
but I dont get the impression we're being jerked around.
Your right we never heard it from his mouth.
We don't know his grades either but were talking about a kid relatively new to the country so it wouldn't be a shock.
He didn't have a late process, he just has a lot of people pulling him different ways.
Playing AAU is great. Personally I wouldnt want to play that much as its an injury risk. Wouldnt want to miss important freshman year practices because I twisted a knee in a rinky dink is8 game.
We were in out, out of it, now back in it. Call it jerking around or whatever its been a topsy turvy recruitment no matter how you slice it.
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“@TheoRabinowitz: Also #stjbb, Felix Balamou & Chris Obekpa will both be playing at the iS8 semifinals tomorrow in Queens at 2:30 and might play again at 5:00”
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Shot blocking is obvious, but runs the court very well. That fits nicely with our style of play. BTW, although offensively a work in progress, he did evidence a decent left handed move in post. Please no micro discussions over a tape!! Enjoy!
“@ECoastBias: Video: Chris Obekpa video from Memorial Day weekend #stjbb http://t.co/Dfksbg5n (http://t.co/Dfksbg5n)”
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Well Happy's ominous post has me a little worried.
But assuming it happens, this has me pumped for next season. I'm not expecting CO to do a lot. But, it's exciting just to think about what Dunlap can do with a full stable of horses.
I think we're finally going to consistently see that "baseline-to-baseline" attack that we've been hearing about and seeing glimpses of for 3 years.
I just hope CO picks up the responsibilities of the zone quickly. Everybody's talking about him anchoring the back line and swatting shots all over the gym - don't forget he's going to have to rotate to cover guys on the weak-side perimeter too. He's going to have to have a steep learning curve if he's going to be effective his freshmen season.
Nothing to be worried about . I just heard he hasn't decided yet. The fact that Dave and others are saying we are back in it and possible leaders is a miracle considering how much of a cincy lean he was. .. Just hate seeing people go crazy when it's not a done deal. Hopefully it does because it would be huge for us . I'll be at is8 on Saturday hoping to see 2 ST john's recruits .. Not one :)
you going ? I'm gonna text u tomorrow. depending on the markets maybe i won't go in saturday and meet up with u instead
Ill be there as well Maher and Happy! Will be wearing black SJU cap and probably an SJU shirt. (Made a topic about it over on the main forum)
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Ill be there as well Maher and Happy! Will be wearing black SJU cap and probably an SJU shirt. (Made a topic about it over on the main forum)
- size medium SJU shirts - sorry just had to
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Ill be there as well Maher and Happy! Will be wearing black SJU cap and probably an SJU shirt. (Made a topic about it over on the main forum)
- size medium SJU shirts - sorry just had to
Medium shirts are a bit feminine also. If you dont have a beer belly by 30, youre not part of Baldi's crew.
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[Medium shirts are a bit feminine also. If you dont have a beer belly by 30, youre not part of Baldi's crew]
Baldi,
I just remember someone on the board not getting a t-shirt that they were promised and I think it was a size medium.
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Chris must be improving those D3 offensive skills! Lol
BTW, why am I sensing/hoping for a post IS8 commitment to Johnnies? How "imminent" is that?
“@NYCHoops: Chris Obekpa is rocking on both offense and defense vs. Juice in semis. #iS8 #basketball #boysbasketball #boyshoops”
Theo! “@TheoRabinowitz: Obekpa with 4 blocks at halftime. Felix with about 12 pts or so. Whitehead hurt his lower back midway through 2nd quarter. #stjbb”
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Chris' team won and goes on to final.
“@TheoRabinowitz: Felix finishes with 19 pts, Obekpa with 13 pts, 8 blocks and was more active offensively today. A few nice passes & a jumper. #stjbb”
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Steve Lavin @STJCoachLavin
Still in the hunt for some outstanding 2012 prospects. Six now signed in this class with 2 remaining scholarships if we elect to use them!
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Steve Lavin @STJCoachLavin
Still in the hunt for some outstanding 2012 prospects. Six now signed in this class with 2 remaining scholarships if we elect to use them!
Cant wait for posters to still question the ability to bring in more than one guy
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Steve Lavin @STJCoachLavin
Still in the hunt for some outstanding 2012 prospects. Six now signed in this class with 2 remaining scholarships if we elect to use them!
Cant wait for posters to still quefstion the ability to bring in more than one guy
Or question how tall the new recruits really are!
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Obekpa wins MVP of IS8. Balamou impressed as well.
Has SJU re-emerged as the favorite?
http://www.zagsblog.com/2012/06/02/uncommitted-obekpa-wins-player-of-the-year-at-is8-johnnies-now-considered-the-favorite-for-the-shot-blocker/ (http://www.zagsblog.com/2012/06/02/uncommitted-obekpa-wins-player-of-the-year-at-is8-johnnies-now-considered-the-favorite-for-the-shot-blocker/)
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Obekpa had a pretty fantastic first game of the day all around. He didn't have 13 or 16 blocks like he had a few weeks ago but he was involved on both ends of the floor. Finished with 8 blocks in the semifinal win over Juice in which he was matched up against Jordan Dickerson. He also made a few nice passes out of the post, crashed the offensive glass a bit and even took and hit a jumper along the baseline. He seemed to find a good rhythm. In addition to the 8 blocks there were countless altered shots as guys entered the lane. Felix did a nice job scoring the ball as he finished with 19 points, hit some more midrange jumpers and nice finishes at the rim. Some of his defensive deficiencies shined through though as he had a very difficult time staying in front of Isaiah Whitehead. When he comes on campus he'll need to improve his ability to stay in front of guys on the ball, focus on help/recover off the ball and just being "solid" instead of always going for the steal.
In the championship game Obekpa seemed to have a much more difficult time both offensively and defensively. Maybe its that he had already played a game an hour before this (although kids play many games per day in AAU/grassroots all the time) but he was quite lethargic on both ends and really couldn't get in a rhythm and seemed to take some plays off. It wasn't just Obekpa, as most players on that team were a step or so slow for much of the game. Felix started well but got some major cramps in the second quarter or so. Came back and played some but he obviously was robbed of his ability to explode and leap. Jordan Washington (2013 forward who we have looked at) had a MONSTER championship game. About 6'7", kind of thick body (built a lot like Jayvaughn Pinkston was in HS) that needs to be toned but his footwork is PHENOMENAL for a guy his size and he knows how to carve out space in the lane and he plays hard and has a good motor for a guy as large as him.
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Obekpa had a pretty fantastic first game of the day all around. He didn't have 13 or 16 blocks like he had a few weeks ago but he was involved on both ends of the floor. Finished with 8 blocks in the semifinal win over Juice in which he was matched up against Jordan Dickerson. He also made a few nice passes out of the post, crashed the offensive glass a bit and even took and hit a jumper along the baseline. He seemed to find a good rhythm. In addition to the 8 blocks there were countless altered shots as guys entered the lane. Felix did a nice job scoring the ball as he finished with 19 points, hit some more midrange jumpers and nice finishes at the rim. Some of his defensive deficiencies shined through though as he had a very difficult time staying in front of Isaiah Whitehead. When he comes on campus he'll need to improve his ability to stay in front of guys on the ball, focus on help/recover off the ball and just being "solid" instead of always going for the steal.
In the championship game Obekpa seemed to have a much more difficult time both offensively and defensively. Maybe its that he had already played a game an hour before this (although kids play many games per day in AAU/grassroots all the time) but he was quite lethargic on both ends and really couldn't get in a rhythm and seemed to take some plays off. It wasn't just Obekpa, as most players on that team were a step or so slow for much of the game. Felix started well but got some major cramps in the second quarter or so. Came back and played some but he obviously was robbed of his ability to explode and leap. Jordan Washington (2013 forward who we have looked at) had a MONSTER championship game. About 6'7", kind of thick body (built a lot like Jayvaughn Pinkston was in HS) that needs to be toned but his footwork is PHENOMENAL for a guy his size and he knows how to carve out space in the lane and he plays hard and has a good motor for a guy as large as him.
Sounds great.. Wish I could have made it yesterday but something came up. I heard we had a nice amount of fans there. Also heard that Jordan Dickerson got better and played well. With respect to you I must say that Jordan Washington is a lot more out of shape than Jayvaughn was in Hs :). Kid also dips his shoulder every time after spinning and he is a offensive foul waiting to happen... Everything else you said about him is spot on . I think the problem with him is .. Where does he play if he gets in shape? Kid is used to bullying everyone in hs because of his girth. Also did you hear that they left Felix off the all Is8 teams? What a joke .
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Obekpa had a pretty fantastic first game of the day all around. He didn't have 13 or 16 blocks like he had a few weeks ago but he was involved on both ends of the floor. Finished with 8 blocks in the semifinal win over Juice in which he was matched up against Jordan Dickerson. He also made a few nice passes out of the post, crashed the offensive glass a bit and even took and hit a jumper along the baseline. He seemed to find a good rhythm. In addition to the 8 blocks there were countless altered shots as guys entered the lane. Felix did a nice job scoring the ball as he finished with 19 points, hit some more midrange jumpers and nice finishes at the rim. Some of his defensive deficiencies shined through though as he had a very difficult time staying in front of Isaiah Whitehead. When he comes on campus he'll need to improve his ability to stay in front of guys on the ball, focus on help/recover off the ball and just being "solid" instead of always going for the steal.
In the championship game Obekpa seemed to have a much more difficult time both offensively and defensively. Maybe its that he had already played a game an hour before this (although kids play many games per day in AAU/grassroots all the time) but he was quite lethargic on both ends and really couldn't get in a rhythm and seemed to take some plays off. It wasn't just Obekpa, as most players on that team were a step or so slow for much of the game. Felix started well but got some major cramps in the second quarter or so. Came back and played some but he obviously was robbed of his ability to explode and leap. Jordan Washington (2013 forward who we have looked at) had a MONSTER championship game. About 6'7", kind of thick body (built a lot like Jayvaughn Pinkston was in HS) that needs to be toned but his footwork is PHENOMENAL for a guy his size and he knows how to carve out space in the lane and he plays hard and has a good motor for a guy as large as him.
Sounds great.. Wish I could have made it yesterday but something came up. I heard we had a nice amount of fans there. Also heard that Jordan Dickerson got better and played well. With respect to you I must say that Jordan Washington is a lot more out of shape than Jayvaughn was in Hs :). Kid also dips his shoulder every time after spinning and he is a offensive foul waiting to happen... Everything else you said about him is spot on . I think the problem with him is .. Where does he play if he gets in shape? Kid is used to bullying everyone in hs because of his girth. Also did you hear that they left Felix off the all Is8 teams? What a joke .
Felix Made the first team.
Thanks for the recap Theo! Washington has REALLY quick feet for a guy his size. Hes also got a really quick trigger in the games ive seen
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Alex Kline said that there is a possibility he does a post grad year but assuming he goes to college in 2012-13 it will be SJU.
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Obekpa had a pretty fantastic first game of the day all around. He didn't have 13 or 16 blocks like he had a few weeks ago but he was involved on both ends of the floor. Finished with 8 blocks in the semifinal win over Juice in which he was matched up against Jordan Dickerson. He also made a few nice passes out of the post, crashed the offensive glass a bit and even took and hit a jumper along the baseline. He seemed to find a good rhythm. In addition to the 8 blocks there were countless altered shots as guys entered the lane. Felix did a nice job scoring the ball as he finished with 19 points, hit some more midrange jumpers and nice finishes at the rim. Some of his defensive deficiencies shined through though as he had a very difficult time staying in front of Isaiah Whitehead. When he comes on campus he'll need to improve his ability to stay in front of guys on the ball, focus on help/recover off the ball and just being "solid" instead of always going for the steal.
In the championship game Obekpa seemed to have a much more difficult time both offensively and defensively. Maybe its that he had already played a game an hour before this (although kids play many games per day in AAU/grassroots all the time) but he was quite lethargic on both ends and really couldn't get in a rhythm and seemed to take some plays off. It wasn't just Obekpa, as most players on that team were a step or so slow for much of the game. Felix started well but got some major cramps in the second quarter or so. Came back and played some but he obviously was robbed of his ability to explode and leap. Jordan Washington (2013 forward who we have looked at) had a MONSTER championship game. About 6'7", kind of thick body (built a lot like Jayvaughn Pinkston was in HS) that needs to be toned but his footwork is PHENOMENAL for a guy his size and he knows how to carve out space in the lane and he plays hard and has a good motor for a guy as large as him.
Sounds great.. Wish I could have made it yesterday but something came up. I heard we had a nice amount of fans there. Also heard that Jordan Dickerson got better and played well. With respect to you I must say that Jordan Washington is a lot more out of shape than Jayvaughn was in Hs :). Kid also dips his shoulder every time after spinning and he is a offensive foul waiting to happen... Everything else you said about him is spot on . I think the problem with him is .. Where does he play if he gets in shape? Kid is used to bullying everyone in hs because of his girth. Also did you hear that they left Felix off the all Is8 teams? What a joke .
Felix Made the first team.
Thanks for the recap Theo! Washington has REALLY quick feet for a guy his size. Hes also got a really quick trigger in the games ive seen
I just saw Felix made the first team. My mistake and well deserved for him.
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Alex Kline said that there is a possibility he does a post grad year but assuming he goes to college in 2012-13 it will be SJU.
if he does a post year, i don't think we see him as a johnny. it's now or never IMO.
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Can we take one or two players next year? The scholarship table says only one.
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Alex Kline said that there is a possibility he does a post grad year but assuming he goes to college in 2012-13 it will be SJU.
Fordham, any idea what is holding him back ie. grades/SAT's? Or is it just that he wants to do a prep year? I'd have thought he'd know by now if he's qualified?
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Great quote from the zags article
Asked what his upside was, Konchalski said: “I think eventually he can be very good. A year ago he was a low-major player. Two months ago, he was a mid-major player. Right now, he might be a high-major player.”
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Great quote from the zags article
Asked what his upside was, Konchalski said: “I think eventually he can be very good. A year ago he was a low-major player. Two months ago, he was a mid-major player. Right now, he might be a high-major player.”
Obviously, two years ago he was a Div. II player. ;)
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Great quote from the zags article
Asked what his upside was, Konchalski said: “I think eventually he can be very good. A year ago he was a low-major player. Two months ago, he was a mid-major player. Right now, he might be a high-major player.”
Obviously, two years ago he was a Div. II player. ;)
on this board he was a D2 Player 2 WEEKS ago. ;-)
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Great quote from the zags article
Asked what his upside was, Konchalski said: “I think eventually he can be very good. A year ago he was a low-major player. Two months ago, he was a mid-major player. Right now, he might be a high-major player.”
Obviously, two years ago he was a Div. II player. ;)
Actually it was about felix
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Obekpa had a pretty fantastic first game of the day all around. He didn't have 13 or 16 blocks like he had a few weeks ago but he was involved on both ends of the floor. Finished with 8 blocks in the semifinal win over Juice in which he was matched up against Jordan Dickerson. He also made a few nice passes out of the post, crashed the offensive glass a bit and even took and hit a jumper along the baseline. He seemed to find a good rhythm. In addition to the 8 blocks there were countless altered shots as guys entered the lane. Felix did a nice job scoring the ball as he finished with 19 points, hit some more midrange jumpers and nice finishes at the rim. Some of his defensive deficiencies shined through though as he had a very difficult time staying in front of Isaiah Whitehead. When he comes on campus he'll need to improve his ability to stay in front of guys on the ball, focus on help/recover off the ball and just being "solid" instead of always going for the steal.
In the championship game Obekpa seemed to have a much more difficult time both offensively and defensively. Maybe its that he had already played a game an hour before this (although kids play many games per day in AAU/grassroots all the time) but he was quite lethargic on both ends and really couldn't get in a rhythm and seemed to take some plays off. It wasn't just Obekpa, as most players on that team were a step or so slow for much of the game. Felix started well but got some major cramps in the second quarter or so. Came back and played some but he obviously was robbed of his ability to explode and leap. Jordan Washington (2013 forward who we have looked at) had a MONSTER championship game. About 6'7", kind of thick body (built a lot like Jayvaughn Pinkston was in HS) that needs to be toned but his footwork is PHENOMENAL for a guy his size and he knows how to carve out space in the lane and he plays hard and has a good motor for a guy as large as him.
Sounds great.. Wish I could have made it yesterday but something came up. I heard we had a nice amount of fans there. Also heard that Jordan Dickerson got better and played well. With respect to you I must say that Jordan Washington is a lot more out of shape than Jayvaughn was in Hs :). Kid also dips his shoulder every time after spinning and he is a offensive foul waiting to happen... Everything else you said about him is spot on . I think the problem with him is .. Where does he play if he gets in shape? Kid is used to bullying everyone in hs because of his girth. Also did you hear that they left Felix off the all Is8 teams? What a joke .
I wouldn't compare Pinkston and Washington at all. I agree, Happy, that Washington is not in as good of shape as Pinkston nor do I feel he is as good. The only thing they may have in common is they might be Villlanova grads someday.
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Obekpa had a pretty fantastic first game of the day all around. He didn't have 13 or 16 blocks like he had a few weeks ago but he was involved on both ends of the floor. Finished with 8 blocks in the semifinal win over Juice in which he was matched up against Jordan Dickerson. He also made a few nice passes out of the post, crashed the offensive glass a bit and even took and hit a jumper along the baseline. He seemed to find a good rhythm. In addition to the 8 blocks there were countless altered shots as guys entered the lane. Felix did a nice job scoring the ball as he finished with 19 points, hit some more midrange jumpers and nice finishes at the rim. Some of his defensive deficiencies shined through though as he had a very difficult time staying in front of Isaiah Whitehead. When he comes on campus he'll need to improve his ability to stay in front of guys on the ball, focus on help/recover off the ball and just being "solid" instead of always going for the steal.
In the championship game Obekpa seemed to have a much more difficult time both offensively and defensively. Maybe its that he had already played a game an hour before this (although kids play many games per day in AAU/grassroots all the time) but he was quite lethargic on both ends and really couldn't get in a rhythm and seemed to take some plays off. It wasn't just Obekpa, as most players on that team were a step or so slow for much of the game. Felix started well but got some major cramps in the second quarter or so. Came back and played some but he obviously was robbed of his ability to explode and leap. Jordan Washington (2013 forward who we have looked at) had a MONSTER championship game. About 6'7", kind of thick body (built a lot like Jayvaughn Pinkston was in HS) that needs to be toned but his footwork is PHENOMENAL for a guy his size and he knows how to carve out space in the lane and he plays hard and has a good motor for a guy as large as him.
Theo, thanks for a great report. Now about that spelling bee ......Lol
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Can we take one or two players next year? The scholarship table says only one.
I think it means Wood's ship is up for grabs. The announed class didn't include Wood. If Chandler and Wood both become eligible this year, and Obekpa commits to SJU, who thinks Lavin takes Wood over Chandler?
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Can we take one or two players next year? The scholarship table says only one.
I think it means Wood's ship is up for grabs. The announed class didn't include Wood. If Chandler and Wood both become eligible this year, and Obekpa commits to SJU, who thinks Lavin takes Wood over Chandler?
Agree. If both Obekpa and Chandler are available, then it will be those two. We already have Balamou. I really do like Darrick Wood, but big men are a big need for us. Especially two top 70 big guys.
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Got to go yesterday with qcredman. Was very impressed with both Felix and Obekpa.
The announcer referred to Obekpa as "the game changer" and that's exactly what he is. In the semifinal game, by my very unofficial count, he had 13 points, 11 boards and 8 blocks, all of the emphatic variety (layups and 15 foot jumpers alike). The number of blocks don't do it justice, he changed countless shots out there. You should have seen some of the ridiculous floaters, reverse attempts and double pumps because of his presence. The guys might as well have been shooting from halfcourt because of the degree of difficulty he caused. His timing is unlike anything i've ever seen in person. As Theo noted, he did make a few nice passes out of the post and hit his only (i think) jumper he took in two games. Negatives, for a guy with his size and timing he doesn't look to be an impact rebounder. His hands aren't very good, lots of bobbles and tips and his shot blocking aggression takes him out of the rebounding picture often and leaves his man open for offensive boards if he doesn't get the block. the good news is he usually does.
Felix showed a nice offensive repertoire out there. He is very bouncy, both a high jumper and a quick jumper. Great elevation on his J and he seems to really love the midrange, an obvious lost art. Didn't see him really take anyone off the dribble, he needs to improve his handle at his size and also missed a bunch of free throws. Someone said he reminds of them of Paris, I could see that but he's not as good of a defender but has a better jumper coming in. He had 19 points in the semifinal.
Dickerson probably had the highlight of the semi's with a dunk on Obekpa who got his hand on the ball at the rim but Dickerson powered it home. He looked pretty decent and was at least 3 inches taller than Chris but there's no question who the better player is.
In the finals you could tell the guys on Obekpa's and Felix's team were gassed and were dropping like flies with minor injuries (calf cramps for Felix). Jordan Washington really impressed the hell out of me though. He was obviously in the worst shape of anyone on the court but he was the one putting in all the work and put the team on his back for the title. Didn't keep count but he must have had close to 30 points and a ton of rebounds, clearly the MVP of the finals. Good feet for his size and showed a nice touch at the line. Not sure where he falls in line for our priorities but if he gets in shape he looks like he can be a good back to the basket post presence in the big east.
Also was impressed with Thaddeus Hall, should be a nice pickup for South Carolina. He's pretty crafty and has a lot of heart.
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Alex Kline said that there is a possibility he does a post grad year but assuming he goes to college in 2012-13 it will be SJU.
Fordham, any idea what is holding him back ie. grades/SAT's? Or is it just that he wants to do a prep year? I'd have thought he'd know by now if he's qualified?
I think it is a fail safe if he ultimately cannot choose a school moreso then a academic necessity.
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Obekpa had a pretty fantastic first game of the day all around. He didn't have 13 or 16 blocks like he had a few weeks ago but he was involved on both ends of the floor. Finished with 8 blocks in the semifinal win over Juice in which he was matched up against Jordan Dickerson. He also made a few nice passes out of the post, crashed the offensive glass a bit and even took and hit a jumper along the baseline. He seemed to find a good rhythm. In addition to the 8 blocks there were countless altered shots as guys entered the lane. Felix did a nice job scoring the ball as he finished with 19 points, hit some more midrange jumpers and nice finishes at the rim. Some of his defensive deficiencies shined through though as he had a very difficult time staying in front of Isaiah Whitehead. When he comes on campus he'll need to improve his ability to stay in front of guys on the ball, focus on help/recover off the ball and just being "solid" instead of always going for the steal.
In the championship game Obekpa seemed to have a much more difficult time both offensively and defensively. Maybe its that he had already played a game an hour before this (although kids play many games per day in AAU/grassroots all the time) but he was quite lethargic on both ends and really couldn't get in a rhythm and seemed to take some plays off. It wasn't just Obekpa, as most players on that team were a step or so slow for much of the game. Felix started well but got some major cramps in the second quarter or so. Came back and played some but he obviously was robbed of his ability to explode and leap. Jordan Washington (2013 forward who we have looked at) had a MONSTER championship game. About 6'7", kind of thick body (built a lot like Jayvaughn Pinkston was in HS) that needs to be toned but his footwork is PHENOMENAL for a guy his size and he knows how to carve out space in the lane and he plays hard and has a good motor for a guy as large as him.
Sounds great.. Wish I could have made it yesterday but something came up. I heard we had a nice amount of fans there. Also heard that Jordan Dickerson got better and played well. With respect to you I must say that Jordan Washington is a lot more out of shape than Jayvaughn was in Hs :). Kid also dips his shoulder every time after spinning and he is a offensive foul waiting to happen... Everything else you said about him is spot on . I think the problem with him is .. Where does he play if he gets in shape? Kid is used to bullying everyone in hs because of his girth. Also did you hear that they left Felix off the all Is8 teams? What a joke .
I wouldn't compare Pinkston and Washington at all. I agree, Happy, that Washington is not in as good of shape as Pinkston nor do I feel he is as good. The only thing they may have in common is they might be Villlanova grads someday.
I never said his game was like Pinkston, I said he was built like him. And Pinkston was woefully out of shape for a good portion of his high school career. He's not as good as Pinkston but I will say that I see Washington playing MUCH harder than Pinkston did in HS. Washington and BU-bound Maurice Watson were really the 2 players on that team that played hard nearly every possession in both games yesterday.
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Alex Kline said that there is a possibility he does a post grad year but assuming he goes to college in 2012-13 it will be SJU.
Fordham, any idea what is holding him back ie. grades/SAT's? Or is it just that he wants to do a prep year? I'd have thought he'd know by now if he's qualified?
I think it is a fail safe if he ultimately cannot choose a school moreso then a academic necessity.
Was just curious. Not sure what more the kid wants. He has good schools after him. This is not a kid that is only getting low major offers. If that is the case, then I like our chances at this point.
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Alex Kline said that there is a possibility he does a post grad year but assuming he goes to college in 2012-13 it will be SJU.
Fordham, any idea what is holding him back ie. grades/SAT's? Or is it just that he wants to do a prep year? I'd have thought he'd know by now if he's qualified?
I think it is a fail safe if he ultimately cannot choose a school moreso then a academic necessity.
Was just curious. Not sure what more the kid wants. He has good schools after him. This is not a kid that is only getting low major offers. If that is the case, then I like our chances at this point.
If it is not an academic issue, we will get him IMO.
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Fordham - do you really think the kid is thinking of another year of school because he can't make up his mind..?
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The Chris Obekpa drinking game from Bearcat Nation.
http://bearcatsnation.com/2012/06/03/chris-obekpas-recruitment-the-drinking-game/ (http://bearcatsnation.com/2012/06/03/chris-obekpas-recruitment-the-drinking-game/)
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Can't imagine the kid goes to prep just because he can't make up his mind. Hilarious drinking game by the way.
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I can only tell you what I heard.
I have heard 2 things:
1) SJU is the clear leader now and that recent swing from Cincy to SJU swung shortly after the recent off the court stuff at Cincy. For those who may have thought that the recent stuff at Cincy would have an impact I can tell you it appears it has and
2) Him and his handlers as well as those recruiting him are very confident he will qualify but Prep remains an option if for no other reason then he ultimately wants to put off his decision for another year.
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This guy sounds like Pelle part II
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This guy sounds like Pelle part II
With a happier STJ ending :)
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This guy sounds like Pelle part II
With a happier STJ ending :)
Let's hope so.
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2) Him and his handlers as well as those recruiting him are very confident he will qualify but Prep remains an option if for no other reason then he ultimately wants to put off his decision for another year.
Not questioning what you heard but I do question that this kid would go to Prep solely because he can't make up his mind. I just don't believe that is true and if they are telling that to people it is purely spin.
The longer this drags on the more I believe its his grades/eligibility that are preventing him from making a decision.
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He isn't going prep.
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He isn't going prep.
Thanks Dave. All I needed to hear.
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;) Yes!!
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When will he decide ???
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I believe he is SJU bound. My only trepidation with him is his handlers. Again the impression I get is that it is amateur hour with them.
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I believe he is SJU bound. My only trepidation with him is his handlers. Again the impression I get is that it is amateur hour with them.
I'm sorry I'm new to this, I am use to college football recruit but what does this mean???
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I believe he is SJU bound. My only trepidation with him is his handlers. Again the impression I get is that it is amateur hour with them.
I'm sorry I'm new to this, I am use to college football recruit but what does this mean???
It means that a poster who knows nothing about Obekpa's recruitment--like every other person outside of OSNA--is trying to pass of what he read on blogs as some inside information. Nobody knows wthat the deal is with this kid. Now his handlers are amateurs? OSNA produces D-1 recruits every year and the coach accompanied CO on his recruiting visits. There is nothing amateur about it, even in spite of the posts by the UC fan about the grades being withhel--the same poster that came to redmen.com asking if WE had any inside info. Let's give this kid time to decide. Nobody goes to prep school because they are unsure...that is ridiculous.
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Oh goodie. This thread is going to get fun again :2funny:
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Oh goodie. This thread is going to get fun again :2funny:
The excitement would've been here longer if you didn't tell people to forget about him. Lol see what we missed!
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Is there any date where a recruit has to select a school before he becomes ineligible for the upcoming season?
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He isn't going prep.
I haven't heard Prep school either but I have heard he might go to JUCO.
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Oh goodie. This thread is going to get fun again :2funny:
The excitement would've been here longer if you didn't tell people to forget about him. Lol see what we missed!
Well I was referencing Marillac taking a little potshot at Fordham as this thread getting fun again. Also in light of me and Theo going at it about Obekpa's offensive game last week.
As for what me and others said about 'forgetting him'. It was very clear he was gone. When he comes after the fact and if you bump into some people like Lavin he might even tell you that we lost him and got him back. Things change in recruiting. Makes me wonder if maybe in the future I shouldn't say anything and just lay in the weeds.
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Wow Someone just got taken to the woodshed
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Makes me wonder if maybe in the future I shouldn't say anything and just lay in the weeds.
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They're are a few posters I wouldn't mind to see laying in the weeds more often than not. IMO, you're definitely not one of them. ;)
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Oh goodie. This thread is going to get fun again :2funny:
The excitement would've been here longer if you didn't tell people to forget about him. Lol see what we missed!
Well I was referencing Marillac taking a little potshot at Fordham as this thread getting fun again.
I am not responding to that idiot anymore. Does he really thinK I would talk about the fact his family got spooked about the off the court stuff at Cincy if I did not have someone tell me this directly who knew this info?
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Oh goodie. This thread is going to get fun again :2funny:
The excitement would've been here longer if you didn't tell people to forget about him. Lol see what we missed!
Well I was referencing Marillac taking a little potshot at Fordham as this thread getting fun again.
I am not responding to that idiot anymore. Does he really thinK I would talk about the fact his family got spooked about the off the court stuff at Cincy if I did not have someone tell me this directly who knew this info?
You are just tapped into the scene aren't you? Got people at every school with inside info...even connected to CO's family in Nigeria. As for the answer to your question, I absolutely think you made it up. Nobody knows what this kid is thinking. The surest thing in recruiting is that if a kid keeps it quiet, others will try to interpret for him.
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Is there any date where a recruit has to select a school before he becomes ineligible for the upcoming season?
No...just has to enroll on time in the fall.
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Oh goodie. This thread is going to get fun again :2funny:
The excitement would've been here longer if you didn't tell people to forget about him. Lol see what we missed!
Well I was referencing Marillac taking a little potshot at Fordham as this thread getting fun again.
I am not responding to that idiot anymore. Does he really thinK I would talk about the fact his family got spooked about the off the court stuff at Cincy if I did not have someone tell me this directly who knew this info?
Hatfields and McCoys have nothing on you guys! Hard to believe these are good times for SJU hoops!
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Oh goodie. This thread is going to get fun again :2funny:
The excitement would've been here longer if you didn't tell people to forget about him. Lol see what we missed!
Well I was referencing Marillac taking a little potshot at Fordham as this thread getting fun again.
I am not responding to that idiot anymore. Does he really thinK I would talk about the fact his family got spooked about the off the court stuff at Cincy if I did not have someone tell me this directly who knew this info?
Hatfields and McCoys have nothing on you guys! Hard to believe these are good times for SJU hoops!
Another bonus of good times in STJ hoops is that Baldi's posting frequency drops 5 fold.
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Nah that probably had to do with Iona being the better team. Get used to it
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Nah that probably had to do with Iona being the better team. Get used to it
That was your one shining moment, 2011-2012, I hope you enjoyed it. Year before StJ did the same thing, got bounced in the first round.. It really isn't anything to be proud of.
Go forward there really is no comparison between the two schools. We are building a national powerhouse, you are building a Maac dynasty, if your lucky... Enjoy!
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Nah that probably had to do with Iona being the better team. Get used to it
That was your one shining moment, 2011-2012, I hope you enjoyed it. Year before StJ did the same thing, got bounced in the first round.. It really isn't anything to be proud of.
Go forward there really is no comparison between the two schools. We are building a national powerhouse, you are building a Maac dynasty, if your lucky... Enjoy!
Our 2010-11 year was way better than Iona's 2011-12 year. We knocked off how many top 10 teams? A 12-6 BE record, top 25 team for the first time in a decade, now that's something to be proud of. We lost Kennedy and got a bad matchup against a good Gonzaga team.
Sure we lost in the first round, but at least we didn't blow a 25 point lead to BYU.
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AdamZagoria St. John's is making "steady progress" with uncommitted 2012 F Chris Obekpa, source tells @SNYtv
I guess patience is a virtue?!.
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Nah that probably had to do with Iona being the better team. Get used to it
That was your one shining moment, 2011-2012, I hope you enjoyed it. Year before StJ did the same thing, got bounced in the first round.. It really isn't anything to be proud of.
Go forward there really is no comparison between the two schools. We are building a national powerhouse, you are building a Maac dynasty, if your lucky... Enjoy!
Our 2010-11 year was way better than Iona's 2011-12 year. We knocked off how many top 10 teams? A 12-6 BE record, top 25 team for the first time in a decade, now that's something to be proud of. We lost Kennedy and got a bad matchup against a good Gonzaga team.
Sure we lost in the first round, but at least we didn't blow a 25 point lead to BYU.
FWIW Iona lost in the 1st round in 2012, STJ in the 2nd Round in 2011, though I prefer to think of it in more traditional terms with STJ losing in the first round and Iona losing in a Play-In game. Not really a tourney team at all. ; )
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AdamZagoria St. John's is making "steady progress" with uncommitted 2012 F Chris Obekpa, source tells @SNYtv
I guess patience is a virtue?!.
We will be very happen soon or I am going to attend Cinci myself! Seriously, we should feel very good! Things can always change, but I do not think so.
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AdamZagoria St. John's is making "steady progress" with uncommitted 2012 F Chris Obekpa, source tells @SNYtv
I guess patience is a virtue?!.
Oh steady. I guess by Jan. he should be all wrapped up
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I really really hope I'm wrong, but I have a friend that talks regularly with one of Chris's insiders,
and as of this weekend- he said he's still slightly leaning Cinn but yes SJU very much in it.
He doesn't know if qualified(didnt ask).
Location is a factor (oregon out) & Felix @ SJU helps a lot.
I trust the source a lot.
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Makes me wonder if maybe in the future I shouldn't say anything and just lay in the weeds.
They're are a few posters I wouldn't mind to see laying in the weeds more often than not. IMO, you're definitely not one of them. ;)
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+1
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One thing i can not understand about this kid and his so called handlers is if they are so close to him wouldnt they want him at a school around here? Do they feel if going to SJU they would not be as involved with him because the coaching staff wont let them? I dont think it is against NCAA rules to talk to kids as long as they are not doing anything inproper such as benefits. I mean a Juco should be for kids who dont have the grades, want to develop their game or think they can go pro after one year no matter what school they go too. You see that alot in Baseball because if you are of age you can declare right away or just spend two years and go and most of the time it is really just about grades.
For someone to take this long there is definitely more to to it than just his handlers but my opinion it cant be about grades. Wouldnt someone have atleast mentioned it at some point or did i miss that?
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does anyone know when do the semesters end for Obekpa and Chandler? For chandler are we waiting for the semester to be over? just wondering
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does anyone know when do the semesters end for Obekpa and Chandler? For chandler are we waiting for the semester to be over? just wondering
I believe with Chandler we're waiting only for an NCAA verdict.
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Could be waiting on an SAT score
Tests are typically given in May and June
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Chandler is a longshot to qualify. Still has a lot of work to do and I wouldn't hold much hope.
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Chandler is a longshot to qualify. Still has a lot of work to do and I wouldn't hold much hope.
Ouch
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Chandler is a longshot to qualify. Still has a lot of work to do and I wouldn't hold much hope.
Seconded.
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Chandler is a longshot to qualify. Still has a lot of work to do and I wouldn't hold much hope.
Ouch
Is this recent news?
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Chandler is a longshot to qualify. Still has a lot of work to do and I wouldn't hold much hope.
Ouch
Is this recent news?
The developments are definitely less encouraging than previous.
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Chandler is a longshot to qualify. Still has a lot of work to do and I wouldn't hold much hope.
Not surprising! Kids dig such deep holes sometimes.
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Chandler is a longshot to qualify. Still has a lot of work to do and I wouldn't hold much hope.
How does COs academics look? Does it look like he will qualify?
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Chandler is a longshot to qualify. Still has a lot of work to do and I wouldn't hold much hope.
Ouch
Is this recent news?
The developments are definitely less encouraging than previous.
It's a good thing SJU got back involved with Obekpa then right... ;D
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Chandler is a longshot to qualify. Still has a lot of work to do and I wouldn't hold much hope.
Ouch
Is this recent news?
The developments are definitely less encouraging than previous.
It's a good thing SJU got back involved with Obekpa then right... ;D
Exactly.
My previous post didn't sound right. I meant to say yes its recent and change from previous positive views.
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Wish the staff would stop putting themselves in this situation. I guess it comes with the territory working with teenagers but plenty of other kids manage to qualify.
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Chandler is a longshot to qualify. Still has a lot of work to do and I wouldn't hold much hope.
Ouch
Is this recent news?
The developments are definitely less encouraging than previous.
It's a good thing SJU got back involved with Obekpa then right... ;D
Exactly.
My previous post didn't sound right. I meant to say yes its recent and change from previous positive views.
As always, very much appreciate the updates, even if it's not good news. Could Chandler do prep for a year and maybe qualify in 2013?
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Wish the staff would stop putting themselves in this situation. I guess it comes with the territory working with teenagers but plenty of other kids manage to qualify.
If you didn't think this was a possible outcome than your naive. There was a reason he came out of nowhere. It was a shot in the dark. If it worked out hell of coup, if not you move on. You know 2012 was a different type of year for us. Going forward I don't see us down this path.
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If you didn't think this was a possible outcome than your naive. There was a reason he came out of nowhere. It was a shot in the dark. If it worked out hell of coup, if not you move on. You know 2012 was a different type of year for us. Going forward I don't see us down this path.
I disagree a little... in 2011, they recruited and signed three non qualifiers (Pointer was actually considered an academic question mark for a while too). Then again this year got involved with kids that are dealing with eligibility issues issues in Wood and Obekpa and this doesn't even count the first kid they had onboard for 2012 - Jevon Thomas. They clearly don't mid taking the risk on kids who might have eligibility issues.
That being said and I don't think a lot of people realize there is a huge difference between a kid having issues with his grades and his eligibility. A potential student can be taking and passing all of his classes and be on track to graduate from high school; that doesn't mean he is going to be eligible to play as a Freshman.
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If you didn't think this was a possible outcome than your naive. There was a reason he came out of nowhere. It was a shot in the dark. If it worked out hell of coup, if not you move on. You know 2012 was a different type of year for us. Going forward I don't see us down this path.
I disagree a little... in 2011, they recruited and signed three non qualifiers (Pointer was actually considered an academic question mark for a while too). Then again this year got involved with kids that are dealing with eligibility issues issues in Wood and Obekpa and this doesn't even count the first kid they had onboard for 2012 - Jevon Thomas. They clearly don't mid taking the risk on kids who might have eligibility issues.
That being said and I don't think a lot of people realize there is a huge difference between a kid having issues with his grades and his eligibility. A potential student can be taking and passing all of his classes and be on track to graduate from high school; that doesn't mean he is going to be eligible to play as a Freshman.
Pat
They had 9 players to replace in '11. They reached out and unfortunately a couple didn't work out. 3 of the 9. Then in addition there was some additional departures which made the focus on '12 again still mass overhauling to fill out a complete roster. I don't see us recruiting more than 2-3 in the next couple of years. Classes are stabilized and evened out now. They cast the wide net two years in a row where risks were needed to be taken. Provided Obekpa comes on board and all is square there it seems like come the start of school we have a full roster and won't have to approach 13 looking for academic risks.
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With the numbers they needed to get, and the past history of the program they're selling, risks had to be taken.
Taking these risks will soon become a thing of the past unless there is an exceptionally good reason.
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Just sign one of these 2( Chandler or Obekpa) and lets get this thing going. I'm tired of the recruiting game, ugh....
Plus, if neither ends up here, Baldi will start posting much more again...
Funny how we went from Chandler is a lock, Obekpa should be forgotten to Chandler should be forgotten and Chris is back in the game...
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Funny how we went from Chandler is a lock, Obekpa should be forgotten to Chandler should be forgotten and Chris is back in the game...
The beauty of recruiting :)
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I'm not sure I agree that we won't be involved with academic risks in future years. Nor do I necessarily think that's a terrible thing, either.
Of course in years ahead we won't need to fill 5 or 6 slots in one class just to field a full team. So that helps.
But I think coach Lavin and his staff have shown they want to bring in the very best talent possible. And they've shown a willingness to work with guys who have potential eligibility issues, as well as make their own judgments on guys who may have a certain reputation or history.
I don't think either one of those things is a bad concept. Look at everything together; then make a decision. I think they'll continue to do that, and in some cases it may mean taking a chance on a player that has a big upside, or who the staff feels we really need.
Lavin has given me no indication that he's going to play it safe in the recruiting game. Clearly he could sign marginable players from the local area, but he hasn't. If we're taking risks on top 100 talent now, I think that just means in 2 years we'll be taking risks on top 15 talent (whom other programs may shy away from).
Just my two cents, but I can't see Lav wanting to play it safe. He'll always reach for the next rung on the ladder.
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I'm not sure I agree that we won't be involved with academic risks in future years. Nor do I necessarily think that's a terrible thing, either.
Of course in years ahead we won't need to fill 5 or 6 slots in one class just to field a full team. So that helps.
But I think coach Lavin and his staff have shown they want to bring in the very best talent possible. And they've shown a willingness to work with guys who have potential eligibility issues, as well as make their own judgments on guys who may have a certain reputation or history.
I don't think either one of those things is a bad concept. Look at everything together; then make a decision. I think they'll continue to do that, and in some cases it may mean taking a chance on a player that has a big upside, or who the staff feels we really need.
Lavin has given me no indication that he's going to play it safe in the recruiting game. Clearly he could sign marginable players from the local area, but he hasn't. If we're taking risks on top 100 talent now, I think that just means in 2 years we'll be taking risks on top 15 talent (whom other programs may shy away from).
Just my two cents, but I can't see Lav wanting to play it safe. He'll always reach for the next rung on the ladder.
The overlying issue is the academic risk won't be 'needed desperately' like it is in this case, a big man.
If the top NYC player in 2015 is academic question mark, yes he will go after if he thinks he can make it work. But we won't be on pins and needles needing him.
Makes sense?
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I'm not sure I agree that we won't be involved with academic risks in future years. Nor do I necessarily think that's a terrible thing, either.
Of course in years ahead we won't need to fill 5 or 6 slots in one class just to field a full team. So that helps.
But I think coach Lavin and his staff have shown they want to bring in the very best talent possible. And they've shown a willingness to work with guys who have potential eligibility issues, as well as make their own judgments on guys who may have a certain reputation or history.
I don't think either one of those things is a bad concept. Look at everything together; then make a decision. I think they'll continue to do that, and in some cases it may mean taking a chance on a player that has a big upside, or who the staff feels we really need.
Lavin has given me no indication that he's going to play it safe in the recruiting game. Clearly he could sign marginable players from the local area, but he hasn't. If we're taking risks on top 100 talent now, I think that just means in 2 years we'll be taking risks on top 15 talent (whom other programs may shy away from).
Just my two cents, but I can't see Lav wanting to play it safe. He'll always reach for the next rung on the ladder.
The overlying issue is the academic risk won't be 'needed desperately' like it is in this case, a big man.
If the top NYC player in 2015 is academic question mark, yes he will go after if he thinks he can make it work. But we won't be on pins and needles needing him.
Makes sense?
Yea absolutely. It changes the balance when you don't "need" that player.
I was just saying that coach is still going to push the envelope if he feels the player is worth it. And you gave a perfect example of it.
Can't wait to get this recruiting class over with. I get that recruiting is always tumultuous, but the last year has been a little ridiculous for St Johns fans.
Looking forward to the stability of only needing one or two recruits.
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We're there now- (needing only 2 recruits)
If no one else signs the next 2 months we only have 3
scholarships for 2013, and Wood has verballed one of them.
I feel much more comfortable than 13 months ago re: roster & recruiting
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If everyone signed up stays healthy, and there are no other issues, it seems that we'll have 3 players to rotate between the 4 and 5 spots (Gift, Sanchez, and Sampson). That is one more than last year, and my understanding is that Jakar is more of a "4" than Mo was. So we should be okay in that regard, although I do get why some on this board are antsy about the lack of size under that scenario. Adding a good 4th option at those spots (like Obekpa) would I think easy pretty much everyone's concerns. And after that it is gravy. (i.e., Chandler).
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Wish the staff would stop putting themselves in this situation. I guess it comes with the territory working with teenagers but plenty of other kids manage to qualify.
If you didn't think this was a possible outcome than your naive. There was a reason he came out of nowhere. It was a shot in the dark. If it worked out hell of coup, if not you move on. You know 2012 was a different type of year for us. Going forward I don't see us down this path.
I knew it was a very real possibility. But this class also has another risk in woods. Would just love to hear Sju involved with kids that are fully qualified way in advance.
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Wish the staff would stop putting themselves in this situation. I guess it comes with the territory working with teenagers but plenty of other kids manage to qualify.
If you didn't think this was a possible outcome than your naive. There was a reason he came out of nowhere. It was a shot in the dark. If it worked out hell of coup, if not you move on. You know 2012 was a different type of year for us. Going forward I don't see us down this path.
I knew it was a very real possibility. But this class also has another risk in woods. Would just love to hear Sju involved with kids that are fully qualified way in advance.
So Wood doesn't make it. He wasn't seeing PT with Harrison here. Let him straighten his grades out and we have a replacement for Dee and 2 yrs behind. I don't know why its such a concern. Like someone pointed out. Would you rather get safe options just to have warm bodies?
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Was never expecting Chandler to end up here in the first place. If we grab Obekpa then we'll be good for next year size wise
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The highly sought-after shot-blocker, who has received offers from Cincinnati, St. John's, Providence, DePaul, Connecticut, Georgia Tech, Memphis, Oregon and West Virginia, narrowed his choices down to two schools.
"I just like St. John's and Cincinnati," said Obekpa to RedStormReport.com.
Of Cincinnati and St. John's, Obekpa said that the rapid up-and-down style of play that characterizes both teams caught his attention.
"[Cincinnati] run and they play together. They went far last year," said Obekpa. "[St. John's] runs and they're [local], so I'm used to them."
"I like the place. I'm just seeing what is best for me," said Obekpa of St. John's. "It's close to home."
"I want to be close to home," Obekpa later added.
http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1373001 (http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1373001)
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Hope he decides to stay home and room with his HS friend
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The highly sought-after shot-blocker, who has received offers from Cincinnati, St. John's, Providence, DePaul, Connecticut, Georgia Tech, Memphis, Oregon and West Virginia, narrowed his choices down to two schools.
"I just like St. John's and Cincinnati," said Obekpa to RedStormReport.com.
Of Cincinnati and St. John's, Obekpa said that the rapid up-and-down style of play that characterizes both teams caught his attention.
"[Cincinnati] run and they play together. They went far last year," said Obekpa. "[St. John's] runs and they're [local], so I'm used to them."
"I like the place. I'm just seeing what is best for me," said Obekpa of St. John's. "It's close to home."
"I want to be close to home," Obekpa later added.
http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1373001 (http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1373001)
Ok, somebody, quick, show this kid a map so we can get on with this nonsense. And BTW, wake me up when this kid attends his first class in Jamaica. Thank you.
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Zags doesn't include this quote, but the rivals interview also had this delightful nugget..
[Obekpa says that he will make his collegiate decision "maybe by the end of this month."]
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I'll rely on Lavs to make this call, but I can't shake the feeling this kid is beginning to fall into the more trouble then he's worth category.
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The highly sought-after shot-blocker, who has received offers from Cincinnati, St. John's, Providence, DePaul, Connecticut, Georgia Tech, Memphis, Oregon and West Virginia, narrowed his choices down to two schools.
"I just like St. John's and Cincinnati," said Obekpa to RedStormReport.com.
Of Cincinnati and St. John's, Obekpa said that the rapid up-and-down style of play that characterizes both teams caught his attention.
"[Cincinnati] run and they play together. They went far last year," said Obekpa. "[St. John's] runs and they're [local], so I'm used to them."
"I like the place. I'm just seeing what is best for me," said Obekpa of St. John's. "It's close to home."
"I want to be close to home," Obekpa later added.
http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1373001 (http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1373001)
The fact that he mentioned several times that being close to home was probably the most important thing as it turned out in terms of recruiting, The kid has already been uprooted from his country and will most likely be more comfortable at St Johns with Felix. We also can offer him 20 minutes a game from Day 1.
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I'll rely on Lavs to make this call, but I can't shake the feeling this kid is beginning to fall into the more trouble then he's worth category.
IMO, the only way Obekpa is more trouble than he's worth is if he doesn't come here. The guy is the best available big on the board (assuming Chandler is out this year), he's a game changer on defense and he fills a big need for us. I don't know him personally (who on these boards does?), but unless Obekpa pulls a Nuri after he commits, I can't understand why the staff shouldn't expend all available resources to land this kid.
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I'll rely on Lavs to make this call, but I can't shake the feeling this kid is beginning to fall into the more trouble then he's worth category.
IMO, the only way Obekpa is more trouble than he's worth is if he doesn't come here. The guy is the best available big on the board (assuming Chandler is out this year), he's a game changer on defense and he fills a big need for us. I don't know him personally (who on these boards does?), but unless Obekpa pulls a Nuri after he commits, I can't understand why the staff shouldn't expend all available resources to land this kid.
Exactly!
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The kid loves AAU ball. And honestly he needs to play to continue to get better and improve that D2 offensive game :2funny:
But seriously I'm sure he wants to run the rest of the month in AAU, then pop, and be showing up to a campus in July to start with his new team.
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With all the analysis about Chris' weaknesses, I have great confidence if he joins us that;
A. Staff will develop his offensive game to be quite adequate, like the current Louisville center.
B. Chris will learn to rebound well and key fast breaks by year two. He will be coached to realize that trying to block everything, at expense of rebounding, is not necessary.
C. He will bring the best blocking skills for SJU that I can remember and allow our athletic wings and guards to cheat a bit and get the running game going.
D. With weight training, he will be around 230 pounds by second year and really become a physical presence.
This development IMO will be a key part of SJU being in the hunt for NCAA success.
Nitpick away!!!!
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um what?
SMU coach Larry Brown is also in touch with Chris Obekpa and they are trying to get him on a visit, sources told @SNYtv
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“@AdamZagoria: SMU coach Larry Brown is also in touch with Chris Obekpa and they are trying to get him on a visit, sources told @SNYtv”
SMU is certainly aggressive. Who knows, but I doubt Chris will visit.
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“@AdamZagoria: SMU coach Larry Brown is also in touch with Chris Obekpa and they are trying to get him on a visit, sources told @SNYtv”
SMU is certainly aggressive. Who knows, but I doubt Chris will visit.
Probably took a look at Savon Goodman's transcripts.... ;D ;D
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The highly sought-after shot-blocker, who has received offers from Cincinnati, St. John's, Providence, DePaul, Connecticut, Georgia Tech, Memphis, Oregon and West Virginia, narrowed his choices down to two schools.
"I just like St. John's and Cincinnati," said Obekpa to RedStormReport.com.
Of Cincinnati and St. John's, Obekpa said that the rapid up-and-down style of play that characterizes both teams caught his attention.
"[Cincinnati] run and they play together. They went far last year," said Obekpa. "[St. John's] runs and they're [local], so I'm used to them."
"I like the place. I'm just seeing what is best for me," said Obekpa of St. John's. "It's close to home."
"I want to be close to home," Obekpa later added.
http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1373001 (http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1373001)
The fact that he mentioned several times that being close to home was probably the most important thing as it turned out in terms of recruiting, The kid has already been uprooted from his country and will most likely be more comfortable at St Johns with Felix. We also can offer him 20 minutes a game from Day 1.
Not talking about his talent at all. All the reasons you listed about his picking us were in place 2 months ago. The clincher, one would think, should've been the signing of Balamou, even though it appears the staff liked Balamou even without CO.
At what point does a kids "antics" become a preview of what you can expect to see from him once he commits. And yes I am concerned that he could become a " Nuri" type distraction. As I said I'll leave it to Lavs and staff to make that call but the longer this goes on, the less confident I am of this turning into a productive ship for us.
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The highly sought-after shot-blocker, who has received offers from Cincinnati, St. John's, Providence, DePaul, Connecticut, Georgia Tech, Memphis, Oregon and West Virginia, narrowed his choices down to two schools.
"I just like St. John's and Cincinnati," said Obekpa to RedStormReport.com.
Of Cincinnati and St. John's, Obekpa said that the rapid up-and-down style of play that characterizes both teams caught his attention.
"[Cincinnati] run and they play together. They went far last year," said Obekpa. "[St. John's] runs and they're [local], so I'm used to them."
"I like the place. I'm just seeing what is best for me," said Obekpa of St. John's. "It's close to home."
"I want to be close to home," Obekpa later added.
http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1373001 (http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1373001)
The fact that he mentioned several times that being close to home was probably the most important thing as it turned out in terms of recruiting, The kid has already been uprooted from his country and will most likely be more comfortable at St Johns with Felix. We also can offer him 20 minutes a game from Day 1.
Not talking about his talent at all. All the reasons you listed about his picking us were in place 2 months ago. The clincher, one would think, should've been the signing of Balamou, even though it appears the staff liked Balamou even without CO.
At what point does a kids "antics" become a preview of what you can expect to see from him once he commits. And yes I am concerned that he could become a " Nuri" type distraction. As I said I'll leave it to Lavs and staff to make that call but the longer this goes on, the less confident I am of this turning into a productive ship for us.
What antics?
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I dont see any antics at all.
Some kids decide in Junior year- some take all of senior year.
He hasnt verballed to anyone & changed.
Actually pretty smart for a kid to wait till spring to see coach movements
minutes avail etc. His taking time just might limit his choices avail,
but there to seem to be many suitors for his services
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Maybe he is concerned about PT and thaught his PT would be limited if we signed Chandler. Maybe he is waiting to see how the MC situation turns out .,which is not looking good ,hence ,the increased interest on Chris' part
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I dont see any antics at all.
Some kids decide in Junior year- some take all of senior year.
He hasnt verballed to anyone & changed.
Actually pretty smart for a kid to wait till spring to see coach movements
minutes avail etc. His taking time just might limit his choices avail,
but there to seem to be many suitors for his services
Newsflash, Lavin and Cronin are not going anywhere. Not to mention Larry Brown or any other school that pops up. And while he hasn't verballed to anyone, there has been enough shifting of favorites to cause one's head to spin. I still haven't heard an acceptable reason as to why this kid hasn't committed, or at least told us what the hangup is. Still waiting for a miracle ship from Calipari ? Tell's me the kid is either very confused or being steered behind the scene by people who could be a pain in the ass to deal with for the "winning" school.
As I've said I still trust Lavs and staff to make the right call. But the longer this non committment goes on , the more leary I feel about this kid. Tell me there's one of you who feel different.
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I dont see any antics at all.
Some kids decide in Junior year- some take all of senior year.
He hasnt verballed to anyone & changed.
Actually pretty smart for a kid to wait till spring to see coach movements
minutes avail etc. His taking time just might limit his choices avail,
but there to seem to be many suitors for his services
Newsflash, Lavin and Cronin are not going anywhere. Not to mention Larry Brown or any other school that pops up. And while he hasn't verballed to anyone, there has been enough shifting of favorites to cause one's head to spin. I still haven't heard an acceptable reason as to why this kid hasn't committed, or at least told us what the hangup is. Still waiting for a miracle ship from Calipari ? Tell's me the kid is either very confused or being steered behind the scene by people who could be a pain in the ass to deal with for the "winning" school.
As I've said I still trust Lavs and staff to make the right call. But the longer this non committment goes on , the more leary I feel about this kid. Tell me there's one of you who feel different.
I am telling you!!! Enough please! The horse is more than dead! If you trust staff, let it play out.
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Im sick of reading about this dude, shat or get off the pot already.
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I dont see any antics at all.
Some kids decide in Junior year- some take all of senior year.
He hasnt verballed to anyone & changed.
Actually pretty smart for a kid to wait till spring to see coach movements
minutes avail etc. His taking time just might limit his choices avail,
but there to seem to be many suitors for his services
Newsflash, Lavin and Cronin are not going anywhere. Not to mention Larry Brown or any other school that pops up. And while he hasn't verballed to anyone, there has been enough shifting of favorites to cause one's head to spin. I still haven't heard an acceptable reason as to why this kid hasn't committed, or at least told us what the hangup is. Still waiting for a miracle ship from Calipari ? Tell's me the kid is either very confused or being steered behind the scene by people who could be a pain in the ass to deal with for the "winning" school.
As I've said I still trust Lavs and staff to make the right call. But the longer this non committment goes on , the more leary I feel about this kid. Tell me there's one of you who feel different.
I am telling you!!! Enough please! The horse is more than dead! If you trust staff, let it play out.
Ok let it play out. Lock this thread and start a new one that you can title " Opekpa commits !
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I dont see any antics at all.
Some kids decide in Junior year- some take all of senior year.
He hasnt verballed to anyone & changed.
Actually pretty smart for a kid to wait till spring to see coach movements
minutes avail etc. His taking time just might limit his choices avail,
but there to seem to be many suitors for his services
Newsflash, Lavin and Cronin are not going anywhere. Not to mention Larry Brown or any other school that pops up. And while he hasn't verballed to anyone, there has been enough shifting of favorites to cause one's head to spin. I still haven't heard an acceptable reason as to why this kid hasn't committed, or at least told us what the hangup is. Still waiting for a miracle ship from Calipari ? Tell's me the kid is either very confused or being steered behind the scene by people who could be a pain in the ass to deal with for the "winning" school.
As I've said I still trust Lavs and staff to make the right call. But the longer this non committment goes on , the more leary I feel about this kid. Tell me there's one of you who feel different.
I am telling you!!! Enough please! The horse is more than dead! If you trust staff, let it play out.
Ok let it play out. Lock this thread and start a new one that you can title " Opekpa commits !
Or Obekpa commits!
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I dont see any antics at all.
Some kids decide in Junior year- some take all of senior year.
He hasnt verballed to anyone & changed.
Actually pretty smart for a kid to wait till spring to see coach movements
minutes avail etc. His taking time just might limit his choices avail,
but there to seem to be many suitors for his services
Newsflash, Lavin and Cronin are not going anywhere. Not to mention Larry Brown or any other school that pops up. And while he hasn't verballed to anyone, there has been enough shifting of favorites to cause one's head to spin. I still haven't heard an acceptable reason as to why this kid hasn't committed, or at least told us what the hangup is. Still waiting for a miracle ship from Calipari ? Tell's me the kid is either very confused or being steered behind the scene by people who could be a pain in the ass to deal with for the "winning" school.
As I've said I still trust Lavs and staff to make the right call. But the longer this non committment goes on , the more leary I feel about this kid. Tell me there's one of you who feel different.
I am telling you!!! Enough please! The horse is more than dead! If you trust staff, let it play out.
Ok let it play out. Lock this thread and start a new one that you can title " Opekpa commits !
Just make sure the name is spelled correctly
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I dont see any antics at all.
Some kids decide in Junior year- some take all of senior year.
He hasnt verballed to anyone & changed.
Actually pretty smart for a kid to wait till spring to see coach movements
minutes avail etc. His taking time just might limit his choices avail,
but there to seem to be many suitors for his services
Newsflash, Lavin and Cronin are not going anywhere. Not to mention Larry Brown or any other school that pops up. And while he hasn't verballed to anyone, there has been enough shifting of favorites to cause one's head to spin. I still haven't heard an acceptable reason as to why this kid hasn't committed, or at least told us what the hangup is. Still waiting for a miracle ship from Calipari ? Tell's me the kid is either very confused or being steered behind the scene by people who could be a pain in the ass to deal with for the "winning" school.
As I've said I still trust Lavs and staff to make the right call. But the longer this non committment goes on , the more leary I feel about this kid. Tell me there's one of you who feel different.
I am telling you!!! Enough please! The horse is more than dead! If you trust staff, let it play out.
Ok let it play out. Lock this thread and start a new one that you can title " Opekpa commits !
Or Obekpa commits!
Him too !
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Im sick of reading about this dude, shat or get off the pot already.
probably the most sensible thing on the board for the last 25 pages
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Im sick of reading about this dude, shat or get off the pot already.
probably the most sensible thing on the board for the last 25 pages
I'm tired of reading about Iona recruits. We're still getting updates on Prandon Parga for some reason... :down:
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Im sick of reading about this dude, shat or get off the pot already.
probably the most sensible thing on the board for the last 25 pages
I'm tired of reading about Iona recruits. We're still getting updates on Prandon Parga for some reason... :down:
Or his brother Brandon. Only kidding MC!
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Im sick of reading about this dude, shat or get off the pot already.
probably the most sensible thing on the board for the last 25 pages
I'm tired of reading about Iona recruits. We're still getting updates on Prandon Parga for some reason... :down:
Youre right and I stated in my post with "for those who have seen Parga". SOme posters like local teams despite their dislike for me and I asked for their input and I appreciate it. But I will take my own advice, If I dont want to read a thread, dont click on it
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Just a footnote to the details provided by Theo and queensfinest about the IS8 games. The O man keeps an eye on whoever has the ball to see if they're going to the basket and then takes the best possible angle to intercept him and make the block with uncanny timing. My point being it's a process reminiscent of Charles Oakley taking just the right angle to snare a rebound.
The most memorable moments of the day? Dickerson's emphatic dunks over Obekpa. However, JD disappeared for extended periods of time.
The most impressive sustained perfomance of the day? Chris Obekpa in the semifinals. He is a phenomenon who alters the offensive attack.
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Just a footnote to the details provided by Theo and queensfinest about the IS8 games. The O man keeps an eye on whoever has the ball to see if they're going to the basket and then takes the best possible angle to intercept him and make the block with uncanny timing. My point being it's a process reminiscent of Charles Oakley taking just the right angle to snare a rebound.
The most memorable moments of the day? Dickerson's emphatic dunks over Obekpa. However, JD disappeared for extended periods of time.
The most impressive sustained perfomance of the day? Chris Obekpa in the semifinals. He is a phenomenon who alters the offensive attack.
qcredman, great to hear from you- been a long time . Sounds like you want Obekpa
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Just a footnote to the details provided by Theo and queensfinest about the IS8 games. The O man keeps an eye on whoever has the ball to see if they're going to the basket and then takes the best possible angle to intercept him and make the block with uncanny timing. My point being it's a process reminiscent of Charles Oakley taking just the right angle to snare a rebound.
The most memorable moments of the day? Dickerson's emphatic dunks over Obekpa. However, JD disappeared for extended periods of time.
The most impressive sustained perfomance of the day? Chris Obekpa in the semifinals. He is a phenomenon who alters the offensive attack.
qcredman, great to hear from you- been a long time . Sounds like you want Obekpa
Thanks Marco. Always enjoy the irony and impersonal sarcasm of your posts.
Oh yea, he is going to make the opposition think twice about going to the basket and will be exactly what they called him at IS8 - The Game Changer.
I call him the O man because when I first saw a series of Obekpa dunks all I kept saying was "Oh man!"
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Zags doesn't include this quote, but the rivals interview also had this delightful nugget..
[Obekpa says that he will make his collegiate decision "maybe by the end of this month."]
:tickedoff:
What's the hurry? :)
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Just a footnote to the details provided by Theo and queensfinest about the IS8 games. The O man keeps an eye on whoever has the ball to see if they're going to the basket and then takes the best possible angle to intercept him and make the block with uncanny timing. My point being it's a process reminiscent of Charles Oakley taking just the right angle to snare a rebound.
The most memorable moments of the day? Dickerson's emphatic dunks over Obekpa. However, JD disappeared for extended periods of time.
The most impressive sustained perfomance of the day? Chris Obekpa in the semifinals. He is a phenomenon who alters the offensive attack.
Be careful with your characterization of Dickerson dunking on Obekpa. Not everyone agrees! :)
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Just a footnote to the details provided by Theo and queensfinest about the IS8 games. The O man keeps an eye on whoever has the ball to see if they're going to the basket and then takes the best possible angle to intercept him and make the block with uncanny timing. My point being it's a process reminiscent of Charles Oakley taking just the right angle to snare a rebound.
The most memorable moments of the day? Dickerson's emphatic dunks over Obekpa. However, JD disappeared for extended periods of time.
The most impressive sustained perfomance of the day? Chris Obekpa in the semifinals. He is a phenomenon who alters the offensive attack.
qcredman, great to hear from you- been a long time . Sounds like you want Obekpa
Thanks Marco. Always enjoy the irony and impersonal sarcasm of your posts.
Oh yea, he is going to make the opposition think twice about going to the basket and will be exactly what they called him at IS8 - The Game Changer.
I call him the O man because when I first saw a series of Obekpa dunks all I kept saying was "Oh man!"
THanks QC! I trust your analysis, we need this guy more than we did Chandler imo
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My post should have read how impressed I was by Obekpa's blocks not his dunks of course.
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I just hope the school is certain this yopung man has his academics in order for eligibilty.
It would make the school look terrible to take a verbal from a kid who doesn't get eligible. We already have a verbal who we are not sure will be on campus in Sept.
Hopefully this gets cleared up as quickly as possible, he commits and he is on campus playing with the team over the summer.
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I just hope the school is certain this yopung man has his academics in order for eligibilty.
It would make the school look terrible to take a verbal from a kid who doesn't get eligible. We already have a verbal who we are not sure will be on campus in Sept.
Hopefully this gets cleared up as quickly as possible, he commits and he is on campus playing with the team over the summer.
I would think staff is aware of the issues you referenced and acts accordingly.
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Adam Zagoria
“As of [Thursday] morning he said he’s still open,” a source told SNY.tv of Chris Obekpa. “He doesn’t say a lot. It wouldn’t shock me if all of a sudden he says he wants to go to St. John’s.”
Just decide already!
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Why do you guys care so much when he decides? Maybe he didn't think about the recruiting process until after his senior season. I'd rather he take his time than decide in a hurry.
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Why do you guys care so much when he decides? Maybe he didn't think about the recruiting process until after his senior season. I'd rather he take his time than decide in a hurry.
I also think folks should realize that this is a seventeen year old kid. Having evidenced my impatience on this one a few times, I realize it is the kid's choice when he decides. Seventeen year old kids can sometimes be fickle and try one's patience. It will be all over in a few weeks I would suspect. At least, we are quite in it!
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I'm sitting here waiting for Godot. I can't help but believe he's going to show up before Obekpa makes his decision.
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I'm sitting here waiting for Godot. I can't help but believe he's going to show up before Obekpa makes his decision.
Can Godot block shots? Lol
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If every other 17 year old kid waited until July to decide where they were going to college, no would be surprised by this. It's a bit odd that anyone would take this long to pick a school. But maybe there are good reasons why? We just don't know any of them.
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Why do you guys care so much when he decides? Maybe he didn't think about the recruiting process until after his senior season. I'd rather he take his time than decide in a hurry.
I also think folks should realize that this is a seventeen year old kid. Having evidenced my impatience on this one a few times, I realize it is the kid's choice when he decides. Seventeen year old kids can sometimes be fickle and try one's patience. It will be all over in a few weeks I would suspect. At least, we are quite in it!
It sounds like he isn't even 17 yet if he us playing on the 17u tomorrow.
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The highly sought-after shot-blocker, who has received offers from Cincinnati, St. John's, Providence, DePaul, Connecticut, Georgia Tech, Memphis, Oregon and West Virginia, narrowed his choices down to two schools.
"I just like St. John's and Cincinnati," said Obekpa to RedStormReport.com.
Of Cincinnati and St. John's, Obekpa said that the rapid up-and-down style of play that characterizes both teams caught his attention.
"[Cincinnati] run and they play together. They went far last year," said Obekpa. "[St. John's] runs and they're [local], so I'm used to them."
"I like the place. I'm just seeing what is best for me," said Obekpa of St. John's. "It's close to home."
"I want to be close to home," Obekpa later added.
http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1373001 (http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1373001)
The fact that he mentioned several times that being close to home was probably the most important thing as it turned out in terms of recruiting, The kid has already been uprooted from his country and will most likely be more comfortable at St Johns with Felix. We also can offer him 20 minutes a game from Day 1.
Not talking about his talent at all. All the reasons you listed about his picking us were in place 2 months ago. The clincher, one would think, should've been the signing of Balamou, even though it appears the staff liked Balamou even without CO.
At what point does a kids "antics" become a preview of what you can expect to see from him once he commits. And yes I am concerned that he could become a " Nuri" type distraction. As I said I'll leave it to Lavs and staff to make that call but the longer this goes on, the less confident I am of this turning into a productive ship for us.
I love how a kid is more trouble then he's worth because of the "antics" he's exhibiting (meaning he hasn't verballed to the school you want him too, yet), but conversely, the guys who flip flop or de-commit or change schools 4 times are headcases who can't be trusted (unless we get one of them on a visit, then they are changed men who are finally seeing clearly). Why do you even care when he decides? So you can post your mock starting lineups on twitter or facebook? So you can personally feel better about the team months before the season starts?
It's not antics, it's called due diligence.
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The highly sought-after shot-blocker, who has received offers from Cincinnati, St. John's, Providence, DePaul, Connecticut, Georgia Tech, Memphis, Oregon and West Virginia, narrowed his choices down to two schools.
"I just like St. John's and Cincinnati," said Obekpa to RedStormReport.com.
Of Cincinnati and St. John's, Obekpa said that the rapid up-and-down style of play that characterizes both teams caught his attention.
"[Cincinnati] run and they play together. They went far last year," said Obekpa. "[St. John's] runs and they're [local], so I'm used to them."
"I like the place. I'm just seeing what is best for me," said Obekpa of St. John's. "It's close to home."
"I want to be close to home," Obekpa later added.
http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1373001 (http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1373001)
The fact that he mentioned several times that being close to home was probably the most important thing as it turned out in terms of recruiting, The kid has already been uprooted from his country and will most likely be more comfortable at St Johns with Felix. We also can offer him 20 minutes a game from Day 1.
Not talking about his talent at all. All the reasons you listed about his picking us were in place 2 months ago. The clincher, one would think, should've been the signing of Balamou, even though it appears the staff liked Balamou even without CO.
At what point does a kids "antics" become a preview of what you can expect to see from him once he commits. And yes I am concerned that he could become a " Nuri" type distraction. As I said I'll leave it to Lavs and staff to make that call but the longer this goes on, the less confident I am of this turning into a productive ship for us.
I love how a kid is more trouble then he's worth because of the "antics" he's exhibiting (meaning he hasn't verballed to the school you want him too, yet), but conversely, the guys who flip flop or de-commit or change schools 4 times are headcases who can't be trusted (unless we get one of them on a visit, then they are changed men who are finally seeing clearly). Why do you even care when he decides? So you can post your mock starting lineups on twitter or facebook? So you can personally feel better about the team months before the season starts?
It's not antics, it's called due diligence.
I don't give a damn any more. Lavin is the one that has to deal with all this stuff. He ows how to deal with these personalities. Only thing that is important is that Lavin doesn't give up and we land him. This 16 year old is one of the best two shotblockers in this class and probably not years class as well. He and Nerlens are the only ones at his level. Having a kid like him in there would be amazing for us. Hopefully we get this done...
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The highly sought-after shot-blocker, who has received offers from Cincinnati, St. John's, Providence, DePaul, Connecticut, Georgia Tech, Memphis, Oregon and West Virginia, narrowed his choices down to two schools.
"I just like St. John's and Cincinnati," said Obekpa to RedStormReport.com.
Of Cincinnati and St. John's, Obekpa said that the rapid up-and-down style of play that characterizes both teams caught his attention.
"[Cincinnati] run and they play together. They went far last year," said Obekpa. "[St. John's] runs and they're [local], so I'm used to them."
"I like the place. I'm just seeing what is best for me," said Obekpa of St. John's. "It's close to home."
"I want to be close to home," Obekpa later added.
http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1373001 (http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1373001)
The fact that he mentioned several times that being close to home was probably the most important thing as it turned out in terms of recruiting, The kid has already been uprooted from his country and will most likely be more comfortable at St Johns with Felix. We also can offer him 20 minutes a game from Day 1.
Not talking about his talent at all. All the reasons you listed about his picking us were in place 2 months ago. The clincher, one would think, should've been the signing of Balamou, even though it appears the staff liked Balamou even without CO.
At what point does a kids "antics" become a preview of what you can expect to see from him once he commits. And yes I am concerned that he could become a " Nuri" type distraction. As I said I'll leave it to Lavs and staff to make that call but the longer this goes on, the less confident I am of this turning into a productive ship for us.
I love how a kid is more trouble then he's worth because of the "antics" he's exhibiting (meaning he hasn't verballed to the school you want him too, yet), but conversely, the guys who flip flop or de-commit or change schools 4 times are headcases who can't be trusted (unless we get one of them on a visit, then they are changed men who are finally seeing clearly). Why do you even care when he decides? So you can post your mock starting lineups on twitter or facebook? So you can personally feel better about the team months before the season starts?
It's not antics, it's called due diligence.
I don't give a damn any more. Lavin is the one that has to deal with all this stuff. He ows how to deal with these personalities. Only thing that is important is that Lavin doesn't give up and we land him. This 16 year old is one of the best two shotblockers in this class and probably not years class as well. He and Nerlens are the only ones at his level. Having a kid like him in there would be amazing for us. Hopefully we get this done...
Sensible response Marcus!
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“@5starbasketball: Chris Obekpa is one of the top unsigned recruits in 2012 and is proving why this morning; Dominating the paint on defense for New Heights”
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“@5starbasketball: Chris Obekpa is one of the top unsigned recruits in 2012 and is proving why this morning; Dominating the paint on defense for New Heights”
He may be the only unsigned recruit. Who else is left, some short, fat, white kid? :)
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“@5starbasketball: Chris Obekpa is one of the top unsigned recruits in 2012 and is proving why this morning; Dominating the paint on defense for New Heights”
He may be the only unsigned recruit. Who else is left, some short, fat, white kid? :)
Baldi's eligibility ran out years ago....
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He may be the only unsigned recruit. Who else is left, some short, fat, white kid? :)
Bobre will want to use the last scholarship on him. ;D
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“@5starbasketball: Chris Obekpa is one of the top unsigned recruits in 2012 and is proving why this morning; Dominating the paint on defense for New Heights”
He may be the only unsigned recruit. Who else is left, some short, fat, white kid? :)
You NEVER stop working the recruiting. There's always someone out there. Situations can change in a hurry - for the potentail recruit, and for the team doing the recruiting.
As a Bruin fan we thought our recruiting was done when Tony Parker signed on last month. But now it looks like there's a fair chance for a 5th recruit to come onboard this year - 2013 top 60 PG Stevie Parker is taking an "official" visit. His high school coach has taken another job, and Stevie (reportedly a 4.0 student) is reclassifying to 2012 (says if he's going to work with a new coach in a new system, why not at the next level?). He's a fast, quick 5'10 scoring PG, great 3pt shooter, who can defend the quickest gaurds out there. The bruins HAD a quick 5'10 pg signed in this class - Top 70 2012 Dominic Artis was their first verbal this year, but bailed for conference rival Oregon when Kyle Anderson committerd. Clark has said a year playing with and practicing against Kyle and Sr. PG Larry Drew can only improve his game - much more than another year of HS with a new coach.
There are ALWAYS players out there. Yes, sometimes even short fat white kids. Funny, that's how one magazine referred to a Providence signee many years ago in the dark ages before the internet when mags and newsletters were all you had to follow recruiting. They were referring to some kid named Di Gregorio ;)
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The highly sought-after shot-blocker, who has received offers from Cincinnati, St. John's, Providence, DePaul, Connecticut, Georgia Tech, Memphis, Oregon and West Virginia, narrowed his choices down to two schools.
"I just like St. John's and Cincinnati," said Obekpa to RedStormReport.com.
Of Cincinnati and St. John's, Obekpa said that the rapid up-and-down style of play that characterizes both teams caught his attention.
"[Cincinnati] run and they play together. They went far last year," said Obekpa. "[St. John's] runs and they're [local], so I'm used to them."
"I like the place. I'm just seeing what is best for me," said Obekpa of St. John's. "It's close to home."
"I want to be close to home," Obekpa later added.
http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1373001 (http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1373001)
The fact that he mentioned several times that being close to home was probably the most important thing as it turned out in terms of recruiting, The kid has already been uprooted from his country and will most likely be more comfortable at St Johns with Felix. We also can offer him 20 minutes a game from Day 1.
Not talking about his talent at all. All the reasons you listed about his picking us were in place 2 months ago. The clincher, one would think, should've been the signing of Balamou, even though it appears the staff liked Balamou even without CO.
At what point does a kids "antics" become a preview of what you can expect to see from him once he commits. And yes I am concerned that he could become a " Nuri" type distraction. As I said I'll leave it to Lavs and staff to make that call but the longer this goes on, the less confident I am of this turning into a productive ship for us.
I love how a kid is more trouble then he's worth because of the "antics" he's exhibiting (meaning he hasn't verballed to the school you want him too, yet), but conversely, the guys who flip flop or de-commit or change schools 4 times are headcases who can't be trusted (unless we get one of them on a visit, then they are changed men who are finally seeing clearly). Why do you even care when he decides? So you can post your mock starting lineups on twitter or facebook? So you can personally feel better about the team months before the season starts?
It's not antics, it's called due diligence.
Wrong. His antics have nothing to do with where he signs. If it's with us fine, if not we'll survive. I want the kid however I think his "handlers" are manipulating this kid behind the scenes. Just a guess on my part. They need to know that once he committs the nonsense stops.
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“@5starbasketball: Chris Obekpa is one of the top unsigned recruits in 2012 and is proving why this morning; Dominating the paint on defense for New Heights”
He may be the only unsigned recruit. Who else is left, some short, fat, white kid? :)
Baldi's eligibility ran out years ago....
I reclassified, Baldi will be starting at the PG position on his 5th grade team. Jevon Thomas is the backup
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Jon Rothstein @JonRothstein
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St. John's gained even more momentum over the wknd in the Chris Obekpa sweepstakes. Looks like a formality that he'll wind up in Queens.
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Jon Rothstein @JonRothstein
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St. John's gained even more momentum over the wknd in the Chris Obekpa sweepstakes. Looks like a formality that he'll wind up in Queens.
That's great, but our own Dave already said that. That's good enough for me.
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Jon Rothstein @JonRothstein
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St. John's gained even more momentum over the wknd in the Chris Obekpa sweepstakes. Looks like a formality that he'll wind up in Queens.
That's great, but our own Dave already said that. That's good enough for me.
So much Dave in Jon Rothstein :)
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Jon Rothstein @JonRothstein
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St. John's gained even more momentum over the wknd in the Chris Obekpa sweepstakes. Looks like a formality that he'll wind up in Queens.
That's great, but our own Dave already said that. That's good enough for me.
So much Dave in Jon Rothstein :)
Obekpa to SJU and the Clams Casino at Dom's on Arthur Ave., Mint....
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Maven confirms fwiw
“@SammyAlbano: Done Deal! Opeka 2 SJU!”
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“@DaveKrupinski: Chris Obekpa will join the Red Storm, decision could be announced as early as today. #stjbb”
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“@SammyAlbano: Opeka can't sign LOI but is signing an institutional letter & on campus as we tweet! Very talente Johnny frosh class!”
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Wow.....just wow. Our defense, with the additions of Branch and Obekpa, will be so much better. A force.
Great news.
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“@christopherewao: Keeping my talent in the MECCA #stjbb http://t.co/w4deycHU (http://t.co/w4deycHU)”
Nice photo in SJU GARB!
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“@christopherewao: Keeping my talent in the MECCA #stjbb http://t.co/w4deycHU (http://t.co/w4deycHU)”
Nice photo in SJU GARB!
Cincy fans starting a bar fight in 5, 4, 3, 2..................
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“@SammyAlbano: Opeka can't sign LOI but is signing an institutional letter & on campus as we tweet! Very talente Johnny frosh class!”
what is the difference between LOI and institutional letter?? Thanks in advance
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Whats that cincy forum link again? I love to read other people pissed at SJU. See what they are calling Lavin this week. Lol
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Bearcat talk. They've been pissed for the last couple of weeks and just started calming down.
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Welcome to the red and white Obekpa!!
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Well that announcement happened a little quicker than I thought. Twitter was some serious real time updates today.
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Guys, our performance on the court this upcoming season will bring in the gems in 2013 let's not get worked up just yet. After a return to the tourney next season we'll be back in business. New all along he wasnt gonna be leaving his buddy Felix . Let's go johnnies !!
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Whats that cincy forum link again? I love to read other people pissed at SJU. See what they are calling Lavin this week. Lol
Go back to pg 58 on this thread. I have been reading it all along. It aint pretty. One guy wrote a letter to the NCAA acussing Lavin of cheating. You also would think we were a midmajor program , who should never be able to outrecruit Cincy.
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Guys, our performance on the court this upcoming season will bring in the gems in 2013 let's not get worked up just yet. After a return to the tourney next season we'll be back in business. New all along he wasnt gonna be leaving his buddy Felix . Let's go johnnies !!
Actually I want the centerpiece of our 13 class wrapped by the early signing period which would be before we played any games.
Here's to hoping that's the case.
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Well that announcement happened a little quicker than I thought. Twitter was some serious real time updates today.
But you broke it first last week Dave!
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Guys, our performance on the court this upcoming season will bring in the gems in 2013 let's not get worked up just yet. After a return to the tourney next season we'll be back in business. New all along he wasnt gonna be leaving his buddy Felix . Let's go johnnies !!
Actually I want the centerpiece of our 13 class wrapped by the early signing period which would be before we played any games.
Here's to hoping that's the case.
C'mon moose only for him to decommit by mid season. These kids have no idea what they want these days and and change there minds daily
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from BearcatMick:
Horrible decision. Lavin is as crooked as they come. Oh well, he probably wasn't good enough for uc anyways with the talent we have
Enjoy playing on a sub .500 team next year Chris! Hopefully lavin paid for your cable so you can watch us in the final four
^^ sore head!!
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from BearcatMick:
Horrible decision. Lavin is as crooked as they come. Oh well, he probably wasn't good enough for uc anyways with the talent we have
Enjoy playing on a sub .500 team next year Chris! Hopefully lavin paid for your cable so you can watch us in the final four
^^ sore head!!
A Cincinnati fan calling another coach/program crooked? now thats funny
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Guys, our performance on the court this upcoming season will bring in the gems in 2013 let's not get worked up just yet. After a return to the tourney next season we'll be back in business. New all along he wasnt gonna be leaving his buddy Felix . Let's go johnnies !!
Actually I want the centerpiece of our 13 class wrapped by the early signing period which would be before we played any games.
Here's to hoping that's the case.
C'mon moose only for him to decommit by mid season. These kids have no idea what they want these days and and change there minds daily
Most kids actually sign an LOI. Its upwards of 80% of the Top 100 or so I've seen each year wrap it up early. Again this is my hope. We don't have an abundance of ships. I hope we can trail our target all summer. Have him on campus to scrimmage with the boys unofficially. And finally get ahead of pace like other big time schools who seem to always be a class ahead.
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“@SammyAlbano: Opeka can't sign LOI but is signing an institutional letter & on campus as we tweet! Very talente Johnny frosh class!”
what is the difference between LOI and institutional letter?? Thanks in advance
He signs scholarship papers guaranteeing him a schollie at SJU. But technically he is not bound to SJU as he would be with an NLI, thus if he wanted to change his mind and go elsewhere he could without needing permission from SJU for a release. He's a Johnny either way.
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Guys, our performance on the court this upcoming season will bring in the gems in 2013 let's not get worked up just yet. After a return to the tourney next season we'll be back in business. New all along he wasnt gonna be leaving his buddy Felix . Let's go johnnies !!
Actually I want the centerpiece of our 13 class wrapped by the early signing period which would be before we played any games.
Here's to hoping that's the case.
C'mon moose only for him to decommit by mid season. These kids have no idea what they want these days and and change there minds daily
Most kids actually sign an LOI. Its upwards of 80% of the Top 100 or so I've seen each year wrap it up early. Again this is my hope. We don't have an abundance of ships. I hope we can trail our target all summer. Have him on campus to scrimmage with the boys unofficially. And finally get ahead of pace like other big time schools who seem to always be a class ahead.
In a perfect world I'm 100% in agreement but the way things have been going Its wishful thinking . Besides has Lawrence even began making visits yet? You would think somehow chandler and wood are still in the fold. So our 13' class may be 50% solidified already.
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Guys, our performance on the court this upcoming season will bring in the gems in 2013 let's not get worked up just yet. After a return to the tourney next season we'll be back in business. New all along he wasnt gonna be leaving his buddy Felix . Let's go johnnies !!
Actually I want the centerpiece of our 13 class wrapped by the early signing period which would be before we played any games.
Here's to hoping that's the case.
C'mon moose only for him to decommit by mid season. These kids have no idea what they want these days and and change there minds daily
Most kids actually sign an LOI. Its upwards of 80% of the Top 100 or so I've seen each year wrap it up early. Again this is my hope. We don't have an abundance of ships. I hope we can trail our target all summer. Have him on campus to scrimmage with the boys unofficially. And finally get ahead of pace like other big time schools who seem to always be a class ahead.
In a perfect world I'm 100% in agreement but the way things have been going Its wishful thinking . Besides has Lawrence even began making visits yet? You would think somehow chandler and wood are still in the fold. So our 13' class may be 50% solidified already.
Pretty sure Chandler wouldn't be a target because this is his prep year. Wouldn't he have to JUCO or something next year? I thought only those who qualified out of HS but elected JUCO were eligible to leave JUCO after 1 year. Agree about Wood. Remember in 2011 we had 7 of the 9 locked up in November before Lavin even coached a regular season game.
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Guys, our performance on the court this upcoming season will bring in the gems in 2013 let's not get worked up just yet. After a return to the tourney next season we'll be back in business. New all along he wasnt gonna be leaving his buddy Felix . Let's go johnnies !!
Actually I want the centerpiece of our 13 class wrapped by the early signing period which would be before we played any games.
Here's to hoping that's the case.
C'mon moose only for him to decommit by mid season. These kids have no idea what they want these days and and change there minds daily
Most kids actually sign an LOI. Its upwards of 80% of the Top 100 or so I've seen each year wrap it up early. Again this is my hope. We don't have an abundance of ships. I hope we can trail our target all summer. Have him on campus to scrimmage with the boys unofficially. And finally get ahead of pace like other big time schools who seem to always be a class ahead.
+1
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Maven confirms fwiw
“@SammyAlbano: Done Deal! Opeka 2 SJU!”
Confirms. Seriously?
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Great news! Welcome Chris!
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Maven confirms fwiw
“@SammyAlbano: Done Deal! Opeka 2 SJU!”
Confirms. Seriously?
Should have just noted his tweet. Sorry!
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Congrats Dave. This is already a terrific robust fan site. It becomes something more when you can deliver accurate recruiting info like you did two weeks ago regarding Obekpa.
Congratulations are due to Steve Lavin and his staff, and right here at JJ.
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Way to call it Dave. Huge recruit for us. Our first shotblocker at SJU since before I can remember.
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Congrats Dave. This is already a terrific robust fan site. It becomes something more when you can deliver accurate recruiting info like you did two weeks ago regarding Obekpa.
Congratulations are due to Steve Lavin and his staff, and right here at JJ.
Nice subtle shot. Ha
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A rational reaction by a Cinci supporter;
“@FrontOfficeNews: “@Bearcats_Nation Chris Obekpa Picks St. John's: We Can All Finally Move on with Our Lives http://t.co/Ky3nKCnb (http://t.co/Ky3nKCnb) #cincinnati #bearcats””
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So much Dave in Jon Rothstein :)
One could read that two ways---not that there's anything wrong with that!
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Guys, our performance on the court this upcoming season will bring in the gems in 2013 let's not get worked up just yet. After a return to the tourney next season we'll be back in business. New all along he wasnt gonna be leaving his buddy Felix . Let's go johnnies !!
Actually I want the centerpiece of our 13 class wrapped by the early signing period which would be before we played any games.
Here's to hoping that's the case.
C'mon moose only for him to decommit by mid season. These kids have no idea what they want these days and and change there minds daily
Most kids actually sign an LOI. Its upwards of 80% of the Top 100 or so I've seen each year wrap it up early. Again this is my hope. We don't have an abundance of ships. I hope we can trail our target all summer. Have him on campus to scrimmage with the boys unofficially. And finally get ahead of pace like other big time schools who seem to always be a class ahead.
In a perfect world I'm 100% in agreement but the way things have been going Its wishful thinking . Besides has Lawrence even began making visits yet? You would think somehow chandler and wood are still in the fold. So our 13' class may be 50% solidified already.
Pretty sure Chandler wouldn't be a target because this is his prep year. Wouldn't he have to JUCO or something next year? I thought only those who qualified out of HS but elected JUCO were eligible to leave JUCO after 1 year. Agree about Wood. Remember in 2011 we had 7 of the 9 locked up in November before Lavin even coached a regular season game.
lets not speak to quick next thing you know chandler's ruled eligible next week or something lol. good ol' lavin. but yeah i definately agree with that , but this is a business of trends. whats hot now, whos hot now. the coachng change and imminent tourney appearance created a substantial amount of buzz, enough buzz and momentum to land 7 early ones (although we know how that story ended in a 13 win season) but with the signing of obekpa and maybe even a bolt up the recrutment rankings into the top 20 will create enough momentum maybe to get some more of the upper echelon recruits to really consider us consistently. but this is where i was eluding that on court performance will be the catalyst for that wishful thinking to become fact. we've definately gained some recrutiment momentum with chris but lets play a game first and give these guys a visual.
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Now I know why I try to check this site at least once a day. Great job coach Lavin and staff. Great day for Johnnie Nation. Happy for all fellow Redmen fans. We can all finally exhale and look forward to the 2013 recruiting season (unless the magician Lavs has anything else up his sleeve). :) :) :)).
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from BearcatMick:
Horrible decision. Lavin is as crooked as they come. Oh well, he probably wasn't good enough for uc anyways with the talent we have
Enjoy playing on a sub .500 team next year Chris! Hopefully lavin paid for your cable so you can watch us in the final four
^^ sore head!!
Lol, we have more talent now than they do. We split with them last year. This Bearcat fan doesn't know that this is no longer last year's six man team. We're going about 8-deep with top 70 players. The rest are JC AA's. Lavin has really leveraged the package-deals better than I could have imagined. Kudos to the job he's done. We are a contender to do big things this year.
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GREAT JOB BY COACH LAVIN AND TONY C !!
To pull in this recruiting class when there were so many rumors surrounding the team, and coming off a very trying season... Just awesome. They really are building something here at SJU. We're not where a lot of us want to be, yet, but definitely on the road. And it feels good.
Also I agree w Moose's sentiments that it'd be nice to lockup our star recruit early this fall. Then if we have an extra ship in the spring, see if there's anybody out there who could really help us.
And as always, props to Dave. He must laugh at our debates some days when he has nuggets like that sitting in his pocket.
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Guys, our performance on the court this upcoming season will bring in the gems in 2013 let's not get worked up just yet. After a return to the tourney next season we'll be back in business. New all along he wasnt gonna be leaving his buddy Felix . Let's go johnnies !!
Actually I want the centerpiece of our 13 class wrapped by the early signing period which would be before we played any games.
Here's to hoping that's the case.
C'mon moose only for him to decommit by mid season. These kids have no idea what they want these days and and change there minds daily
Most kids actually sign an LOI. Its upwards of 80% of the Top 100 or so I've seen each year wrap it up early. Again this is my hope. We don't have an abundance of ships. I hope we can trail our target all summer. Have him on campus to scrimmage with the boys unofficially. And finally get ahead of pace like other big time schools who seem to always be a class ahead.
In a perfect world I'm 100% in agreement but the way things have been going Its wishful thinking . Besides has Lawrence even began making visits yet? You would think somehow chandler and wood are still in the fold. So our 13' class may be 50% solidified already.
Pretty sure Chandler wouldn't be a target because this is his prep year. Wouldn't he have to JUCO or something next year? I thought only those who qualified out of HS but elected JUCO were eligible to leave JUCO after 1 year. Agree about Wood. Remember in 2011 we had 7 of the 9 locked up in November before Lavin even coached a regular season game.
lets not speak to quick next thing you know chandler's ruled eligible next week or something lol. good ol' lavin. but yeah i definately agree with that , but this is a business of trends. whats hot now, whos hot now. the coachng change and imminent tourney appearance created a substantial amount of buzz, enough buzz and momentum to land 7 early ones (although we know how that story ended in a 13 win season) but with the signing of obekpa and maybe even a bolt up the recrutment rankings into the top 20 will create enough momentum maybe to get some more of the upper echelon recruits to really consider us consistently. but this is where i was eluding that on court performance will be the catalyst for that wishful thinking to become fact. we've definately gained some recrutiment momentum with chris but lets play a game first and give these guys a visual.
I and every other person on here including the site owner all felt a lot more positive about one guy and negative about the other. How times have changed they have flip flopped. Chandler could be eligible next week for all we know and we have the room to bring him in but my faith in that has withered over the past however many months.
All I'm saying is remember after the early signing period how there weren't many big name guys. Only ones were actually the ones that reneged from us really ha. I haven't heard any timing from Jermaine. But I'd like to think and hope he is among the 80% plus who want to get it out of the way.
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In Lavin We Trust. Wow just wow. I would have never thought any coach could have turned around the program so quickly after the last year of Norm's era. This is truly remarkable.
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Great news! Welcome Felix!
What about Chris ? :)
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Nice video on Rivals article. But since its pay protected not sure who can see it.
http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1374347 (http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1374347)
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Great news. I had faith that Lavin would deliver but have to admit I was starting to seriously worry. Welcome aboard Chris
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The O man is a Johnny.
This is icing on the cake for an excellent recruiting class.
Welcome aboard Chris!
Thanks Coach.
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Nathan Blue @Nateblueis4real
People didnt believe in @STJCoachLavin and the @STJ_Basketball basketball program. Now, #Stjbb is a top destination for basketball!
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Now I can go fight the Cincy fans on the Rivals board. Here is a doozy from them.
Originally posted by saliva:
Really really disappointing after UC led for this guy for months and St. Johns really was off the radar screen until a month or so ago. UC's mod on another site says there are reason$ the tide changed for $t. John$ so abruptly. Not sure I buy (pun intended) that explanation but Lavin has always been somewhat sketchy. I think most UC fans were honestly getting fed up with the drama and how far he was dragging it out, especially because he is no lock to qualify. But good luck to the kid, I just think he missed out on a great opportunity to step in for Gates and anchor the middle defensively for a program that made the sweet sixteen this past year and has another great squad returning for this upcoming season. Enjoy the NIT, Chris. And yes, I realize this sounds like sour grapes...
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if we were ranked, where would we be this year?
top 10?
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Nathan Blue @Nateblueis4real
People didnt believe in @STJCoachLavin and the @STJ_Basketball basketball program. Now, #Stjbb is a top destination for basketball!
Nate always rep'ing St Johns. Love it
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if we were ranked, where would we be this year?
top 10?
Class? Or Team?
Team wouldn't be ranked. All things considered but half the services don't account transfers, prep and JUCO's I say the class is Top 15-20.
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Now I can go fight the Cincy fans on the Rivals board. Here is a doozy from them.
Originally posted by saliva:
Really really disappointing after UC led for this guy for months and St. Johns really was off the radar screen until a month or so ago. UC's mod on another site says there are reason$ the tide changed for $t. John$ so abruptly. Not sure I buy (pun intended) that explanation but Lavin has always been somewhat sketchy. I think most UC fans were honestly getting fed up with the drama and how far he was dragging it out, especially because he is no lock to qualify. But good luck to the kid, I just think he missed out on a great opportunity to step in for Gates and anchor the middle defensively for a program that made the sweet sixteen this past year and has another great squad returning for this upcoming season. Enjoy the NIT, Chris. And yes, I realize this sounds like sour grapes...
The Friar faithful are repeating their same accusations as well.
I love how when we sign a player who was already committed to us, a juco Dominican-born player from the bronx, and a HS player from long island ... that somehow that wreaks of shady tactics lol. These guys should be expected to be Redmen.
If we signed the Nerlens Noels of the world their accusations would worry me. This .. Ha! ... Is so obviously sour grapes.
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Who is NYCBaller on bearcat talk? That guy has that board under control.
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Great news! Welcome Felix!
What about Chris ? :)
Hhaha wow thanks for the correction. Welcome Chris! and you too felix
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Now I can go fight the Cincy fans on the Rivals board. Here is a doozy from them.
Originally posted by saliva:
Really really disappointing after UC led for this guy for months and St. Johns really was off the radar screen until a month or so ago. UC's mod on another site says there are reason$ the tide changed for $t. John$ so abruptly. Not sure I buy (pun intended) that explanation but Lavin has always been somewhat sketchy. I think most UC fans were honestly getting fed up with the drama and how far he was dragging it out, especially because he is no lock to qualify. But good luck to the kid, I just think he missed out on a great opportunity to step in for Gates and anchor the middle defensively for a program that made the sweet sixteen this past year and has another great squad returning for this upcoming season. Enjoy the NIT, Chris. And yes, I realize this sounds like sour grapes...
If we were paying why would we wait so long as Chris could have signed with Cincy since April13th. Pure sour grapes. And who says Lavin is "sketchy". He recruited for Ucla and St J's not exactly chopped liver-would expect him to be a sucessful recruiter.
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Nathan Blue @Nateblueis4real
People didnt believe in @STJCoachLavin and the @STJ_Basketball basketball program. Now, #Stjbb is a top destination for basketball!
Yeah Nate! You've got that right and Nate has done his job helping along the way! We appreciate it!
Welcome to the program, Chris!
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Guys, our performance on the court this upcoming season will bring in the gems in 2013 let's not get worked up just yet. After a return to the tourney next season we'll be back in business. New all along he wasnt gonna be leaving his buddy Felix . Let's go johnnies !!
Actually I want the centerpiece of our 13 class wrapped by the early signing period which would be before we played any games.
Here's to hoping that's the case.
C'mon moose only for him to decommit by mid season. These kids have no idea what they want these days and and change there minds daily
Most kids actually sign an LOI. Its upwards of 80% of the Top 100 or so I've seen each year wrap it up early. Again this is my hope. We don't have an abundance of ships. I hope we can trail our target all summer. Have him on campus to scrimmage with the boys unofficially. And finally get ahead of pace like other big time schools who seem to always be a class ahead.
In a perfect world I'm 100% in agreement but the way things have been going Its wishful thinking . Besides has Lawrence even began making visits yet? You would think somehow chandler and wood are still in the fold. So our 13' class may be 50% solidified already.
Pretty sure Chandler wouldn't be a target because this is his prep year. Wouldn't he have to JUCO or something next year? I thought only those who qualified out of HS but elected JUCO were eligible to leave JUCO after 1 year. Agree about Wood. Remember in 2011 we had 7 of the 9 locked up in November before Lavin even coached a regular season game.
lets not speak to quick next thing you know chandler's ruled eligible next week or something lol. good ol' lavin. but yeah i definately agree with that , but this is a business of trends. whats hot now, whos hot now. the coachng change and imminent tourney appearance created a substantial amount of buzz, enough buzz and momentum to land 7 early ones (although we know how that story ended in a 13 win season) but with the signing of obekpa and maybe even a bolt up the recrutment rankings into the top 20 will create enough momentum maybe to get some more of the upper echelon recruits to really consider us consistently. but this is where i was eluding that on court performance will be the catalyst for that wishful thinking to become fact. we've definately gained some recrutiment momentum with chris but lets play a game first and give these guys a visual.
I and every other person on here including the site owner all felt a lot more positive about one guy and negative about the other. How times have changed they have flip flopped. Chandler could be eligible next week for all we know and we have the room to bring him in but my faith in that has withered over the past however many months.
All I'm saying is remember after the early signing period how there weren't many big name guys. Only ones were actually the ones that reneged from us really ha. I haven't heard any timing from Jermaine. But I'd like to think and hope he is among the 80% plus who want to get it out of the way.
So aside from Lawrence who do you have your eye on ? Personally I think we need to bring in a pg next year as well
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“@JonRothstein: Steve Lavin has retooled St. John's in a big way 4 life after Moe Harkless. Red Storm have NCAA potential + most importantly-depth in 12-13.”
“@JonRothstein: Chris Obekpa will be an absolute menace in SJU's matchup zone. Shotblocker is still raw offensively, but a game changer on defense.”
Nice comments from HS coach about why SJU selected;
“@AdamZagoria: Updated Chris Obekpa to #stjbb with Eric Jaklitsch quotes. He said Chris is not doing interviews today http://t.co/qJsUnNXP (http://t.co/qJsUnNXP)”
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Guys, our performance on the court this upcoming season will bring in the gems in 2013 let's not get worked up just yet. After a return to the tourney next season we'll be back in business. New all along he wasnt gonna be leaving his buddy Felix . Let's go johnnies !!
Actually I want the centerpiece of our 13 class wrapped by the early signing period which would be before we played any games.
Here's to hoping that's the case.
C'mon moose only for him to decommit by mid season. These kids have no idea what they want these days and and change there minds daily
Most kids actually sign an LOI. Its upwards of 80% of the Top 100 or so I've seen each year wrap it up early. Again this is my hope. We don't have an abundance of ships. I hope we can trail our target all summer. Have him on campus to scrimmage with the boys unofficially. And finally get ahead of pace like other big time schools who seem to always be a class ahead.
In a perfect world I'm 100% in agreement but the way things have been going Its wishful thinking . Besides has Lawrence even began making visits yet? You would think somehow chandler and wood are still in the fold. So our 13' class may be 50% solidified already.
Pretty sure Chandler wouldn't be a target because this is his prep year. Wouldn't he have to JUCO or something next year? I thought only those who qualified out of HS but elected JUCO were eligible to leave JUCO after 1 year. Agree about Wood. Remember in 2011 we had 7 of the 9 locked up in November before Lavin even coached a regular season game.
lets not speak to quick next thing you know chandler's ruled eligible next week or something lol. good ol' lavin. but yeah i definately agree with that , but this is a business of trends. whats hot now, whos hot now. the coachng change and imminent tourney appearance created a substantial amount of buzz, enough buzz and momentum to land 7 early ones (although we know how that story ended in a 13 win season) but with the signing of obekpa and maybe even a bolt up the recrutment rankings into the top 20 will create enough momentum maybe to get some more of the upper echelon recruits to really consider us consistently. but this is where i was eluding that on court performance will be the catalyst for that wishful thinking to become fact. we've definately gained some recrutiment momentum with chris but lets play a game first and give these guys a visual.
I and every other person on here including the site owner all felt a lot more positive about one guy and negative about the other. How times have changed they have flip flopped. Chandler could be eligible next week for all we know and we have the room to bring him in but my faith in that has withered over the past however many months.
All I'm saying is remember after the early signing period how there weren't many big name guys. Only ones were actually the ones that reneged from us really ha. I haven't heard any timing from Jermaine. But I'd like to think and hope he is among the 80% plus who want to get it out of the way.
So aside from Lawrence who do you have your eye on ? Personally I think we need to bring in a pg next year as well
Chilleb you think after Jermaine we need to look for a pg? It was starting to sound like Jordan and Sina werent listing us anymore, but who knows.
Based soley on what's reported, I was getting the impression the staff was doubling down on post players and were hard after the two kids from Louisiana.. Martin and Jones or Mike Young from NJ. But who knows.
Maybe they take a best player available approach ... Regardless of position.
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Who is NYCBaller on bearcat talk? That guy has that board under control.
I know the guy pretty well.
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Welcome Chris! It's remarkable to think that in Lavin's 2+ years at SJU, and given the program he inherited was far removed from its glory days, he has recruited top kids literally from around the world: top local kids (Moe), top kids transplanted to NY (Chris, Felix, GG and Marco), and other top 70 kids throughout the country (Dom, D'Lo, JaKarr, etc.). St. John's is now a true monster on the recruiting trail! Even in the days of Coach Carnesecca, I never thought we had much chance with top recruits outside of NY. In his brief tenure, Lavin has already shattered that perceived limitation.
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Who is NYCBaller on bearcat talk? That guy has that board under control.
I know the guy pretty well.
Good job Happy!
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Who is NYCBaller on bearcat talk? That guy has that board under control.
I know the guy pretty well.
what's the site?
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welcome chris
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Guys, our performance on the court this upcoming season will bring in the gems in 2013 let's not get worked up just yet. After a return to the tourney next season we'll be back in business. New all along he wasnt gonna be leaving his buddy Felix . Let's go johnnies !!
Actually I want the centerpiece of our 13 class wrapped by the early signing period which would be before we played any games.
Here's to hoping that's the case.
C'mon moose only for him to decommit by mid season. These kids have no idea what they want these days and and change there minds daily
Most kids actually sign an LOI. Its upwards of 80% of the Top 100 or so I've seen each year wrap it up early. Again this is my hope. We don't have an abundance of ships. I hope we can trail our target all summer. Have him on campus to scrimmage with the boys unofficially. And finally get ahead of pace like other big time schools who seem to always be a class ahead.
In a perfect world I'm 100% in agreement but the way things have been going Its wishful thinking . Besides has Lawrence even began making visits yet? You would think somehow chandler and wood are still in the fold. So our 13' class may be 50% solidified already.
Pretty sure Chandler wouldn't be a target because this is his prep year. Wouldn't he have to JUCO or something next year? I thought only those who qualified out of HS but elected JUCO were eligible to leave JUCO after 1 year. Agree about Wood. Remember in 2011 we had 7 of the 9 locked up in November before Lavin even coached a regular season game.
lets not speak to quick next thing you know chandler's ruled eligible next week or something lol. good ol' lavin. but yeah i definately agree with that , but this is a business of trends. whats hot now, whos hot now. the coachng change and imminent tourney appearance created a substantial amount of buzz, enough buzz and momentum to land 7 early ones (although we know how that story ended in a 13 win season) but with the signing of obekpa and maybe even a bolt up the recrutment rankings into the top 20 will create enough momentum maybe to get some more of the upper echelon recruits to really consider us consistently. but this is where i was eluding that on court performance will be the catalyst for that wishful thinking to become fact. we've definately gained some recrutiment momentum with chris but lets play a game first and give these guys a visual.
I and every other person on here including the site owner all felt a lot more positive about one guy and negative about the other. How times have changed they have flip flopped. Chandler could be eligible next week for all we know and we have the room to bring him in but my faith in that has withered over the past however many months.
All I'm saying is remember after the early signing period how there weren't many big name guys. Only ones were actually the ones that reneged from us really ha. I haven't heard any timing from Jermaine. But I'd like to think and hope he is among the 80% plus who want to get it out of the way.
So aside from Lawrence who do you have your eye on ? Personally I think we need to bring in a pg next year as well
Chilleb you think after Jermaine we need to look for a pg? It was starting to sound like Jordan and Sina werent listing us anymore, but who knows.
Based soley on what's reported, I was getting the impression the staff was doubling down on post players and were hard after the two kids from Louisiana.. Martin and Jones or Mike Young from NJ. But who knows.
Maybe they take a best player available approach ... Regardless of position.
I think we should probably pack it in for this year and leave that ship for Wood or move on with 2 ships for next year. Next year I think we will try to grab a top notch forward like Lawrence, Martin or another and a Big guard of sometime. Lavin likes guys like Rysheed and Sina who can play both guard spots.
Entering next year, we will be in a much more luxurious position than the last two years. Lavin has recruited magnificently for a guy who had a LOT of things going against him. Not many coaches can land this type of talent with things like cancer and several top notch kids ineligible and others leave mid-season. We'll enter this season with a full roster and able to absorb any issues that arise.
For next year, I'd love jermaine Lawrence. The rest is gravy.
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Cincy landed Lance Stephenson and they're accusing SJU of being dirty. Okey dokey then.
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“@jeffborzello: Might move them to No. 20 or so. Final rankings Wednesday. RT @Joey_4Fingers: where does Obekpa put the #stjbb 2012 class in the rankings?”
Respect Borzello's evaluations!
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Cincy landed Lance Stephenson and they're accusing SJU of being dirty. Okey dokey then.
It seems like just yesterday that Lance mattered. How long until he's in Europe?
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“@DarrickWood: Another addition to the #STJbb fam! We Winning!”
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“@DarrickWood: Another addition to the #STJbb fam! We Winning!”
Sounds like somebody expects to be on campus this fall!
Would be a HUGE piece.
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“@DarrickWood: Another addition to the #STJbb fam! We Winning!”
Sounds like somebody expects to be on campus this fall!
Would be a HUGE piece.
Not necessarily this year but he sure loves STJ thats for sure.
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Those that have seen Obekpa, what do you think he'll average as a freshman? Where will he excel the most?
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Great get after all looked lost. Sanchez and Chris turn the frontcourt from a huge question mark to a potential strength. All praise to Lavin (again).
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Great get after all looked lost. Sanchez and Chris turn the frontcourt from a huge question mark to a potential strength. All praise to Lavin (again).
Don't forget the best of the bunch, Jakarr Sampson!
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“@jeffborzello: Might move them to No. 20 or so. Final rankings Wednesday. RT @Joey_4Fingers: where does Obekpa put the #stjbb 2012 class in the rankings?”
Respect Borzello's evaluations!
Jeff is my boy but 20 is high.
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“@jeffborzello: Might move them to No. 20 or so. Final rankings Wednesday. RT @Joey_4Fingers: where does Obekpa put the #stjbb 2012 class in the rankings?”
Respect Borzello's evaluations!
Jeff is my boy but 20 is high.
In fairness, he said 20 or so. We will see. What a great day in any event!!!
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Those that have seen Obekpa, what do you think he'll average as a freshman? Where will he excel the most?
Shotblocking, shotblocking. He'll have plenty of time to develop the other parts of his game. He will improve 100% just by getting on campus and working on footwork,strength and drilling with Dunlap and Co. He has the ability and athleiticism. He also has the drive to get better. He learns proper position and he'll be tough. Remember, he's only 16. He can block shots right now though. Teams with those tricky guards beating us on penetration and/or team's hurting us on the glass will have to contend with a new level of shotblocking threat.
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“@jeffborzello: Might move them to No. 20 or so. Final rankings Wednesday. RT @Joey_4Fingers: where does Obekpa put the #stjbb 2012 class in the rankings?”
Respect Borzello's evaluations!
Jeff is my boy but 20 is high.
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In fairness, he said 20 or so. We will see. What a great day in any event!!!
And that's not including Branch. I think it is an excellent class overall regardless of what they rank us.
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Welcome Chris!
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Those that have seen Obekpa, what do you think he'll average as a freshman? Where will he excel the most?
I said months ago to look at Dieng's freshman year as a comparison.
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/51476/gorgui-dieng (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/51476/gorgui-dieng)
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Rothstein likes to compare him to Theo Ratliff. Sign me up. He doesn't need to score.
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Rothstein likes to compare him to Theo Ratliff. Sign me up. He doesn't need to score.
I usually hate Rothstein's comparos, but that isn't a bad one.
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Rothstein likes to compare him to Theo Ratliff. Sign me up. He doesn't need to score.
http://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/theo-ratliff-1.html (http://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/theo-ratliff-1.html)
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“@jeffborzello: Might move them to No. 20 or so. Final rankings Wednesday. RT @Joey_4Fingers: where does Obekpa put the #stjbb 2012 class in the rankings?”
Respect Borzello's evaluations!
Jeff is my boy but 20 is high.
Ya know Dave, that can be taken BOTH ways. "20 is high" could mean the number should be lower, as in 1-19. But could also mean the position is too High on a best to worst scale, and that 21 or more is a more appropriate rank.
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Guys, our performance on the court this upcoming season will bring in the gems in 2013 let's not get worked up just yet. After a return to the tourney next season we'll be back in business. New all along he wasnt gonna be leaving his buddy Felix . Let's go johnnies !!
Actually I want the centerpiece of our 13 class wrapped by the early signing period which would be before we played any games.
Here's to hoping that's the case.
C'mon moose only for him to decommit by mid season. These kids have no idea what they want these days and and change there minds daily
Most kids actually sign an LOI. Its upwards of 80% of the Top 100 or so I've seen each year wrap it up early. Again this is my hope. We don't have an abundance of ships. I hope we can trail our target all summer. Have him on campus to scrimmage with the boys unofficially. And finally get ahead of pace like other big time schools who seem to always be a class ahead.
In a perfect world I'm 100% in agreement but the way things have been going Its wishful thinking . Besides has Lawrence even began making visits yet? You would think somehow chandler and wood are still in the fold. So our 13' class may be 50% solidified already.
Pretty sure Chandler wouldn't be a target because this is his prep year. Wouldn't he have to JUCO or something next year? I thought only those who qualified out of HS but elected JUCO were eligible to leave JUCO after 1 year. Agree about Wood. Remember in 2011 we had 7 of the 9 locked up in November before Lavin even coached a regular season game.
lets not speak to quick next thing you know chandler's ruled eligible next week or something lol. good ol' lavin. but yeah i definately agree with that , but this is a business of trends. whats hot now, whos hot now. the coachng change and imminent tourney appearance created a substantial amount of buzz, enough buzz and momentum to land 7 early ones (although we know how that story ended in a 13 win season) but with the signing of obekpa and maybe even a bolt up the recrutment rankings into the top 20 will create enough momentum maybe to get some more of the upper echelon recruits to really consider us consistently. but this is where i was eluding that on court performance will be the catalyst for that wishful thinking to become fact. we've definately gained some recrutiment momentum with chris but lets play a game first and give these guys a visual.
I and every other person on here including the site owner all felt a lot more positive about one guy and negative about the other. How times have changed they have flip flopped. Chandler could be eligible next week for all we know and we have the room to bring him in but my faith in that has withered over the past however many months.
All I'm saying is remember after the early signing period how there weren't many big name guys. Only ones were actually the ones that reneged from us really ha. I haven't heard any timing from Jermaine. But I'd like to think and hope he is among the 80% plus who want to get it out of the way.
So aside from Lawrence who do you have your eye on ? Personally I think we need to bring in a pg next year as well
Chilleb you think after Jermaine we need to look for a pg? It was starting to sound like Jordan and Sina werent listing us anymore, but who knows.
Based soley on what's reported, I was getting the impression the staff was doubling down on post players and were hard after the two kids from Louisiana.. Martin and Jones or Mike Young from NJ. But who knows.
Maybe they take a best player available approach ... Regardless of position.
Personally I feel a pg would adequate. Phil is cool but not a true pg. so our depth in that department is scarce after branch. Just feel like another true pg is what the doctor ordered at this point. Our front court is super deep.
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Guys, our performance on the court this upcoming season will bring in the gems in 2013 let's not get worked up just yet. After a return to the tourney next season we'll be back in business. New all along he wasnt gonna be leaving his buddy Felix . Let's go johnnies !!
Actually I want the centerpiece of our 13 class wrapped by the early signing period which would be before we played any games.
Here's to hoping that's the case.
C'mon moose only for him to decommit by mid season. These kids have no idea what they want these days and and change there minds daily
Most kids actually sign an LOI. Its upwards of 80% of the Top 100 or so I've seen each year wrap it up early. Again this is my hope. We don't have an abundance of ships. I hope we can trail our target all summer. Have him on campus to scrimmage with the boys unofficially. And finally get ahead of pace like other big time schools who seem to always be a class ahead.
In a perfect world I'm 100% in agreement but the way things have been going Its wishful thinking . Besides has Lawrence even began making visits yet? You would think somehow chandler and wood are still in the fold. So our 13' class may be 50% solidified already.
Pretty sure Chandler wouldn't be a target because this is his prep year. Wouldn't he have to JUCO or something next year? I thought only those who qualified out of HS but elected JUCO were eligible to leave JUCO after 1 year. Agree about Wood. Remember in 2011 we had 7 of the 9 locked up in November before Lavin even coached a regular season game.
lets not speak to quick next thing you know chandler's ruled eligible next week or something lol. good ol' lavin. but yeah i definately agree with that , but this is a business of trends. whats hot now, whos hot now. the coachng change and imminent tourney appearance created a substantial amount of buzz, enough buzz and momentum to land 7 early ones (although we know how that story ended in a 13 win season) but with the signing of obekpa and maybe even a bolt up the recrutment rankings into the top 20 will create enough momentum maybe to get some more of the upper echelon recruits to really consider us consistently. but this is where i was eluding that on court performance will be the catalyst for that wishful thinking to become fact. we've definately gained some recrutiment momentum with chris but lets play a game first and give these guys a visual.
I and every other person on here including the site owner all felt a lot more positive about one guy and negative about the other. How times have changed they have flip flopped. Chandler could be eligible next week for all we know and we have the room to bring him in but my faith in that has withered over the past however many months.
All I'm saying is remember after the early signing period how there weren't many big name guys. Only ones were actually the ones that reneged from us really ha. I haven't heard any timing from Jermaine. But I'd like to think and hope he is among the 80% plus who want to get it out of the way.
So aside from Lawrence who do you have your eye on ? Personally I think we need to bring in a pg next year as well
If we went for another body in 13 in addition to Lawrence I would rather see another big man up front. Someone who is more stationary down low as we see Jermaine is starting to show perimeter tendencies.
I think Darrick is another combo in the Phil light that can work out good. I'd rather go for the PG in 14 to be the freshman to Branch's Sr. year.
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Like that Wood / Green comparison.
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from BearcatMick:
Horrible decision. Lavin is as crooked as they come. Oh well, he probably wasn't good enough for uc anyways with the talent we have
Enjoy playing on a sub .500 team next year Chris! Hopefully lavin paid for your cable so you can watch us in the final four
^^ sore head!!
It's one thing to be pissed off. It's another to be stupid. What a dick.
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Very important that we have another big. Now let's get him eating some pasta and in the weight room.
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“@SammyAlbano: Opeka can't sign LOI but is signing an institutional letter & on campus as we tweet! Very talente Johnny frosh class!”
what is the difference between LOI and institutional letter?? Thanks in advance
He signs scholarship papers guaranteeing him a schollie at SJU. But technically he is not bound to SJU as he would be with an NLI, thus if he wanted to change his mind and go elsewhere he could without needing permission from SJU for a release. He's a Johnny either way.
Sorry but why a letter instead of an LOI. Got to be a date beyond which he cannot change his mind - no ?
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“@SammyAlbano: Opeka can't sign LOI but is signing an institutional letter & on campus as we tweet! Very talente Johnny frosh class!”
what is the difference between LOI and institutional letter?? Thanks in advance
He signs scholarship papers guaranteeing him a schollie at SJU. But technically he is not bound to SJU as he would be with an NLI, thus if he wanted to change his mind and go elsewhere he could without needing permission from SJU for a release. He's a Johnny either way.
Sorry but why a letter instead of an LOI. Got to be a date beyond which he cannot change his mind - no ?
It's after the LOI signing period which ends in May. I think he can change his mind all the way up until he enrolls in the fall.
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So do we continue to persue Chandler or leave well enough alone.
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Those that have seen Obekpa, what do you think he'll average as a freshman? Where will he excel the most?
As a freshman? My guess is an average of 6 points and 3 blocks per game but the number of shots that he discourages or re-directs will be incalculable.
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Great addition and terrific class.
Good job by Dave who was not afraid to call it last week. Also Rothstein nailed it. As far as I know he was the first one to publically hint that Obekpa to Cincy was no longer a lock and that SJU was back in it.
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Way to call it Dave. Huge recruit for us. Our first shotblocker at SJU since before I can remember.
Don't forget about Orlando Sanchez.
Great addition. This kid learning on the bench while Sanchez, Garrett, and Sampson carry the load early will be an excellent way to get him ready. This is how programs are built. Wow...ANOTHER top 100 RSCI recruit for Lavin.
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Way to call it Dave. Huge recruit for us. Our first shotblocker at SJU since before I can remember.
Don't forget about Orlando Sanchez.
Great addition. This kid learning on the bench while Sanchez, Garrett, and Sampson carry the load early will be an excellent way to get him ready. This is how programs are built. Wow...ANOTHER top 100 RSCI recruit for Lavin.
RSCI top 70... ;)
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Way to call it Dave. Huge recruit for us. Our first shotblocker at SJU since before I can remember.
Don't forget about Orlando Sanchez.
Great addition. This kid learning on the bench while Sanchez, Garrett, and Sampson carry the load early will be an excellent way to get him ready. This is how programs are built. Wow...ANOTHER top 100 RSCI recruit for Lavin.
Three cheers for Dave and Rothstein both of whom were right on target reportedly using different sources.
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Dave - kindly delete some of my repetiitious citations above. Thanks.
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Will sleep easy tonight -- FINALLY -- knowing that Obekpa defending the hoop.
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Can't wait to see Lavin on the sidelines with this team. What a change from February when all seemed bleak and fans from other programs were fueling the rumors. Let these fans whine the way some of us did (myself included) before Lavin arrived. We know how frustrating it is to see kids choose other programs.
The best is ahead for St John's and NYC college hoops.
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any shurinacooley sightings ?
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;D Tixx Please!!!!! :laugh:
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And here I was grumpy this morning for having to be at work at 5 am...what a great way to start my day! Fantastic news! Welcome CO! Go Redmen!
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Just got the great news....welcome aboard. We are going to do some serious damage this year!
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Rothstein recently penned an article that outlines his "5 things" Obekpa's commitment means to SJU.
http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2012/06/12/rothstein-files-5-things-chris-obekpas-commitment-means-to-st-johns/ (http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2012/06/12/rothstein-files-5-things-chris-obekpas-commitment-means-to-st-johns/)
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Rothstein recently penned an article that outlines his "5 things" Obekpa's commitment means to SJU.
http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2012/06/12/rothstein-files-5-things-chris-obekpas-commitment-means-to-st-johns/ (http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2012/06/12/rothstein-files-5-things-chris-obekpas-commitment-means-to-st-johns/)
Mint!
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On the mark article!
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My concern with the upcoming season is if the opponent shut down dLO where does the offense come from?
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does anyone have access to this article?
http://www.newsday.com/sports/college/college-basketball/college-hoops-scoops-1.1620561/osna-s-obekpa-commits-to-st-john-s-1.3777356?qr=1 (http://www.newsday.com/sports/college/college-basketball/college-hoops-scoops-1.1620561/osna-s-obekpa-commits-to-st-john-s-1.3777356?qr=1)
appear to be some quotes from Obekpa.
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Great news. Long time coming. Welcome Chris.
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Quotes from Chris:
http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/high_school/basketball/shot_blocking_demon_obekpa_rounds_lOBoAXP0SGzQ70oKQSk1lI (http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/high_school/basketball/shot_blocking_demon_obekpa_rounds_lOBoAXP0SGzQ70oKQSk1lI)
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Those two write ups on Chris were very impressive.
Apparently, the layed back approach of Coach in recruiting Chris worked.
It should be a fun and exciting upcoming season.
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Adam Zagoria @AdamZagoria
I'm told #stjbb commit Chris Obekpa is qualified and does well academically in high school.
:)
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My concern with the upcoming season is if the opponent shut down dLO where does the offense come from?
You don't think Sampson, Sanchez, Balamou and Borgault can score?
I thought Garrett made significant progress offensively. He could make a jump.
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Adam Zagoria @AdamZagoria
I'm told #stjbb commit Chris Obekpa is qualified and does well academically in high school.
:)
But but but..........
The Cincy fans said otherwise
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It's almost time. One more year of growth amongst a frosh and soph class for both my Johnnies and Terps, and then a red swarm will be unleashed through the Beast and ACC. The respective staffs are recruiting hard, their message is true to form: "Come and grow with our program and fulfill your potential."
Wait'll we all get to see the additional 2-3 top recruits coming in in 2013 and 2014. But for now, revel in a terrific leg kick from Lavs at the finish line - most impressive.
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Adam Zagoria @AdamZagoria
I'm told #stjbb commit Chris Obekpa is qualified and does well academically in high school.
:)
But but but..........
The Cincy fans said otherwise
At least the animosity is ratcheted up a bit with Cincy. The match ups will be intense for years to come.
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My concern with the upcoming season is if the opponent shut down dLO where does the offense come from?
You don't think Sampson, Sanchez, Balamou and Borgault can score?
I thought Garrett made significant progress offensively. He could make a jump.
They can score but none of those guys create for themselves, the bigs did a lot of clean up work and Marco was just a spot up shooter. The answer to the question lies in the facilitator. I'm patiently waiting for the answer.
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My concern with the upcoming season is if the opponent shut down dLO where does the offense come from?
You don't think Sampson, Sanchez, Balamou and Borgault can score?
I thought Garrett made significant progress offensively. He could make a jump.
They can score but none of those guys create for themselves, the bigs did a lot of clean up work and Marco was just a spot up shooter. The answer to the question lies in the facilitator. I'm patiently waiting for the answer.
I think you meant 'impatiently' :)
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Borzello of CBS has ranked SJU as #20 recruiting class in the nation. http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/recruiting/blog/eye-on-college-basketball-recruiting/19338592/kentucky-finishes-atop-recruiting-class-rankings-again (http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/recruiting/blog/eye-on-college-basketball-recruiting/19338592/kentucky-finishes-atop-recruiting-class-rankings-again)
Like most such lists, doesn't include transfer Branch and JUCO signings.
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Just re-read the ranking info. I was wrong, it does include all incoming players for us. Lavin's second year, another top #20 class. Not too shabby.
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we have the 4th best class in the Big East
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My concern with the upcoming season is if the opponent shut down dLO where does the offense come from?
You don't think Sampson, Sanchez, Balamou and Borgault can score?
I thought Garrett made significant progress offensively. He could make a jump.
They can score but none of those guys create for themselves, the bigs did a lot of clean up work and Marco was just a spot up shooter. The answer to the question lies in the facilitator. I'm patiently waiting for the answer.
I think you meant 'impatiently' :)
Fair enough
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Borzello of CBS has ranked SJU as #20 recruiting class in the nation. http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/recruiting/blog/eye-on-college-basketball-recruiting/19338592/kentucky-finishes-atop-recruiting-class-rankings-again (http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/recruiting/blog/eye-on-college-basketball-recruiting/19338592/kentucky-finishes-atop-recruiting-class-rankings-again)
Like most such lists, doesn't include transfer Branch and JUCO signings.
Cincinnati had a pretty high ranking on that list....
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Just re-read the ranking info. I was wrong, it does include all incoming players for us. Lavin's second year, another top #20 class. Not too shabby.
You were right the first time. It doesn't include Branch. It's going to be very hard for these services to predict who on the Juco circuit will make an impact because they clearly they don't know anything about it.
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My concern with the upcoming season is if the opponent shut down dLO where does the offense come from?
You don't think Sampson, Sanchez, Balamou and Borgault can score?
I thought Garrett made significant progress offensively. He could make a jump.
They can score but none of those guys create for themselves, the bigs did a lot of clean up work and Marco was just a spot up shooter. The answer to the question lies in the facilitator. I'm patiently waiting for the answer.
I think you meant 'impatiently' :)
Fair enough
We got all these Top 100's but none outside of Harrison can create their own offense, your saying?
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My concern with the upcoming season is if the opponent shut down dLO where does the offense come from?
You don't think Sampson, Sanchez, Balamou and Borgault can score?
I thought Garrett made significant progress offensively. He could make a jump.
They can score but none of those guys create for themselves, the bigs did a lot of clean up work and Marco was just a spot up shooter. The answer to the question lies in the facilitator. I'm patiently waiting for the answer.
I think you meant 'impatiently' :)
Fair enough
We got all these Top 100's but none outside of Harrison can create their own offense, your saying?
Bingo, outside of branch and wood. And were looking at neither possibly being available come fall. So correct me if I'm wrong with the rest of the roster
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My concern with the upcoming season is if the opponent shut down dLO where does the offense come from?
You don't think Sampson, Sanchez, Balamou and Borgault can score?
I thought Garrett made significant progress offensively. He could make a jump.
They can score but none of those guys create for themselves, the bigs did a lot of clean up work and Marco was just a spot up shooter. The answer to the question lies in the facilitator. I'm patiently waiting for the answer.
I think you meant 'impatiently' :)
Fair enough
We got all these Top 100's but none outside of Harrison can create their own offense, your saying?
Bingo, outside of branch and wood. And were looking at neither possibly being available come fall. So correct me if I'm wrong with the rest of the roster
So not trying to put words in your mouth but then that would imply your not happy with how the roster has been constructed. Regardless of how many are Top 100 players.
No?
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My concern with the upcoming season is if the opponent shut down dLO where does the offense come from?
You don't think Sampson, Sanchez, Balamou and Borgault can score?
I thought Garrett made significant progress offensively. He could make a jump.
They can score but none of those guys create for themselves, the bigs did a lot of clean up work and Marco was just a spot up shooter. The answer to the question lies in the facilitator. I'm patiently waiting for the answer.
I think you meant 'impatiently' :)
Fair enough
We got all these Top 100's but none outside of Harrison can create their own offense, your saying?
Bingo, outside of branch and wood. And were looking at neither possibly being available come fall. So correct me if I'm wrong with the rest of the roster
in addition can out current pg run a half court set that will translate into points when DLO isn't on the court and/or If it's a cold night for him
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My concern with the upcoming season is if the opponent shut down dLO where does the offense come from?
You don't think Sampson, Sanchez, Balamou and Borgault can score?
I thought Garrett made significant progress offensively. He could make a jump.
They can score but none of those guys create for themselves, the bigs did a lot of clean up work and Marco was just a spot up shooter. The answer to the question lies in the facilitator. I'm patiently waiting for the answer.
I think you meant 'impatiently' :)
Fair enough
We got all these Top 100's but none outside of Harrison can create their own offense, your saying?
Bingo, outside of branch and wood. And were looking at neither possibly being available come fall. So correct me if I'm wrong with the rest of the roster
So not trying to put words in your mouth but then that would imply your not happy with how the roster has been constructed. Regardless of how many are Top 100 players.
No?
Elated on how the roster has shaped out. Just a bit of pressure on our make-shift pg to deliver I believe the key to our success is heavily based on his progression and improvement.
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I think Amir can score. He tot better and in a short period last season. We also got guys like Jakarr, Bourgault, Balamou, Sanchez who we need to see what they can do. I wouldn't be so quick to write off half of our roster before seeing them on the court.
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My concern with the upcoming season is if the opponent shut down dLO where does the offense come from?
You don't think Sampson, Sanchez, Balamou and Borgault can score?
I thought Garrett made significant progress offensively. He could make a jump.
They can score but none of those guys create for themselves, the bigs did a lot of clean up work and Marco was just a spot up shooter. The answer to the question lies in the facilitator. I'm patiently waiting for the answer.
I think you meant 'impatiently' :)
Fair enough
We got all these Top 100's but none outside of Harrison can create their own offense, your saying?
Bingo, outside of branch and wood. And were looking at neither possibly being available come fall. So correct me if I'm wrong with the rest of the roster
So not trying to put words in your mouth but then that would imply your not happy with how the roster has been constructed. Regardless of how many are Top 100 players.
No?
Elated on how the roster has shaped out. Just a bit of pressure on our make-shift pg to deliver I believe the key to our success is heavily based on his progression and improvement.
I honestly don't know what else to say regarding how the play will differ this year to last with more bodies, no need to take air out of the ball, overall natural improvement etc...
I think its time I just shut my mouth and take a summer vacation :) See you all in a few months.
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My concern with the upcoming season is if the opponent shut down dLO where does the offense come from?
You don't think Sampson, Sanchez, Balamou and Borgault can score?
I thought Garrett made significant progress offensively. He could make a jump.
They can score but none of those guys create for themselves, the bigs did a lot of clean up work and Marco was just a spot up shooter. The answer to the question lies in the facilitator. I'm patiently waiting for the answer.
I think you meant 'impatiently' :)
Hey Moose, you're starting to sound like me! :)
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My concern with the upcoming season is if the opponent shut down dLO where does the offense come from?
You don't think Sampson, Sanchez, Balamou and Borgault can score?
I thought Garrett made significant progress offensively. He could make a jump.
They can score but none of those guys create for themselves, the bigs did a lot of clean up work and Marco was just a spot up shooter. The answer to the question lies in the facilitator. I'm patiently waiting for the answer.
I think you meant 'impatiently' :)
Fair enough
We got all these Top 100's but none outside of Harrison can create their own offense, your saying?
Bingo, outside of branch and wood. And were looking at neither possibly being available come fall. So correct me if I'm wrong with the rest of the roster
So not trying to put words in your mouth but then that would imply your not happy with how the roster has been constructed. Regardless of how many are Top 100 players.
No?
Elated on how the roster has shaped out. Just a bit of pressure on our make-shift pg to deliver I believe the key to our success is heavily based on his progression and improvement.
I honestly don't know what else to say regarding how the play will differ this year to last with more bodies, no need to take air out of the ball, overall natural improvement etc...
I think its time I just shut my mouth and take a summer vacation :) See you all in a few months.
Say it ain't so Moose! :)
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I think Amir can score. He tot better and in a short period last season. We also got guys like Jakarr, Bourgault, Balamou, Sanchez who we need to see what they can do. I wouldn't be so quick to write off half of our roster before seeing them on the court.
Not writing anyone off at all, just a fair assessment based on whats been seen as of now. In retrospect wouldn't wanna build anybody up to high either right? I believe everyone can improve but I'm stating what we'll look like if the improvement isn't made, last we left off Amir couldn't go right and Phil looked more like a 2 than a 1. Love that these guys are johnnies but tough love and critiscm is necasary.
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My concern with the upcoming season is if the opponent shut down dLO where does the offense come from?
You don't think Sampson, Sanchez, Balamou and Borgault can score?
I thought Garrett made significant progress offensively. He could make a jump.
They can score but none of those guys create for themselves, the bigs did a lot of clean up work and Marco was just a spot up shooter. The answer to the question lies in the facilitator. I'm patiently waiting for the answer.
I think you meant 'impatiently' :)
Fair enough
We got all these Top 100's but none outside of Harrison can create their own offense, your saying?
Bingo, outside of branch and wood. And were looking at neither possibly being available come fall. So correct me if I'm wrong with the rest of the roster
So not trying to put words in your mouth but then that would imply your not happy with how the roster has been constructed. Regardless of how many are Top 100 players.
No?
Elated on how the roster has shaped out. Just a bit of pressure on our make-shift pg to deliver I believe the key to our success is heavily based on his progression and improvement.
I honestly don't know what else to say regarding how the play will differ this year to last with more bodies, no need to take air out of the ball, overall natural improvement etc...
I think its time I just shut my mouth and take a summer vacation :) See you all in a few months.
Send me a postcard, seems like no one wants to play devils advocate around this joint these days. Iron sharpens iron fellas , nuthin wrong with a bit of healthy critical thinking. Let's all play the "draft specialist" game while we're all at it ST Johns:best case -sweet 16/ big east champs worst case - _____ ?
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Believe it or not some Kentucky fans are concerned about some imagined hole in their roster that will make it difficult for them to win 150 games next year.
Everybody has questions about their rosters. It's part of the fun of the off season. But think of all the problems last years team had to handle. They survived and for awhile even thrived.
How much more comfortable do you feel with this team vs last years. I'm looking for significant improvement from our sophs to ease the way for our frosh and transfers etc.
I think the Greene/ Branch battle will give us a very good coverage at the point, with D'Lo as the third point if necessary.
I love the front court. It will be tremendously competitive with Sampson, Sanchez, Obekpa, and God fighting for PT at 2 positions.
And Bourgault providing the spark to push Amir and Sir Dom to add more to their offensive game. They will be terrors on defense.
Can't wait. Let the games begin.
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My concern with the upcoming season is if the opponent shut down dLO where does the offense come from?
You don't think Sampson, Sanchez, Balamou and Borgault can score?
I thought Garrett made significant progress offensively. He could make a jump.
They can score but none of those guys create for themselves, the bigs did a lot of clean up work and Marco was just a spot up shooter. The answer to the question lies in the facilitator. I'm patiently waiting for the answer.
I think you meant 'impatiently' :)
Fair enough
We got all these Top 100's but none outside of Harrison can create their own offense, your saying?
Bingo, outside of branch and wood. And were looking at neither possibly being available come fall. So correct me if I'm wrong with the rest of the roster
So not trying to put words in your mouth but then that would imply your not happy with how the roster has been constructed. Regardless of how many are Top 100 players.
No?
Elated on how the roster has shaped out. Just a bit of pressure on our make-shift pg to deliver I believe the key to our success is heavily based on his progression and improvement.
I honestly don't know what else to say regarding how the play will differ this year to last with more bodies, no need to take air out of the ball, overall natural improvement etc...
I think its time I just shut my mouth and take a summer vacation :) See you all in a few months.
Send me a postcard, seems like no one wants to play devils advocate around this joint these days. Iron sharpens iron fellas , nuthin wrong with a bit of healthy critical thinking. Let's all play the "draft specialist" game while we're all at it ST Johns:best case -sweet 16/ big east champs worst case - _____ ?
Ill play
Best case- Elite 8. Weve seen what happens when teams are hot during the Tourney
Worst case- First round loss in BE tourney and NIT bid
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The comment below evidencing one Bearcat's bitterness over Obekpa was made to the ESPN Insider's story of Obekpa's commitment and Lavin's remarkable recruiting run this year:
Bearcats1969: Bottom tier and mediocre is what I see. Obekpa went to St J cause Bearcats told him no to all his garbage from his peeps and he still isnt eligible. Sampson is from Ohio and not 1 Ohio school recruited him. OSU, UC, XU all told him no thanks cause he has no postion. He is a 4 man who dont rebound and cant shoot and dont play hard, he looks the part but he wants to shot jumpers and cant play the 3 spot. I cant wait til St Johns comes to the Shoe and Big O is getting tormented while he sits on the the bench to a sellout crowd. hey if he wants the "mecca" and empty gyms he went to the right spot....
Talk about sour grapes!!
The link to the story is below, but you need to be an "insider" to access the full story.
http://insider.espn.go.com/blog/ncbrecruiting/national/post?id=2333 (http://insider.espn.go.com/blog/ncbrecruiting/national/post?id=2333)
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“@eamonnbrennan: Steve Lavin still recruiting Red Storm well http://t.co/RZ2RDwlj (http://t.co/RZ2RDwlj)”
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“@eamonnbrennan: Steve Lavin still recruiting Red Storm well http://t.co/RZ2RDwlj (http://t.co/RZ2RDwlj)”
Lots of love for Lavin on ESPN. This is the 3rd article on the resurgence of Lavin and SJU since yesterday. Of course, being a former employee who left on good terms doesn't hurt. In any event, the program is getting tremendously postive, nation-wide pr for Lavin's recruiting wonders.
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The comment below evidencing one Bearcat's bitterness over Obekpa was made to the ESPN Insider's story of Obekpa's commitment and Lavin's remarkable recruiting run this year:
Bearcats1969: Bottom tier and mediocre is what I see. Obekpa went to St J cause Bearcats told him no to all his garbage from his peeps and he still isnt eligible. Sampson is from Ohio and not 1 Ohio school recruited him. OSU, UC, XU all told
him no thanks cause he has no postion. He is a 4 man who dont rebound and cant shoot and dont play hard, he looks the part but he wants to shot jumpers and cant play the 3 spot. I cant wait til St Johns comes to the Shoe and Big O is getting tormented while he sits on the the bench to a sellout crowd. hey if he wants the "mecca" and empty gyms he went to the right spot....
Talk about sour grapes!!
The link to the story is below, but you need to be an "insider" to access the full story.
http://insider.espn.go.com/blog/ncbrecruiting/national/post?id=2333 (http://insider.espn.go.com/blog/ncbrecruiting/national/post?id=2333)
Why read something written by someone from Cincinnati? It's a thug school. Who cares what they think?
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The comment below evidencing one Bearcat's bitterness over Obekpa was made to the ESPN Insider's story of Obekpa's commitment and Lavin's remarkable recruiting run this year:
Bearcats1969: Bottom tier and mediocre is what I see. Obekpa went to St J cause Bearcats told him no to all his garbage from his peeps and he still isnt eligible. Sampson is from Ohio and not 1 Ohio school recruited him. OSU, UC, XU all told
him no thanks cause he has no postion. He is a 4 man who dont rebound and cant shoot and dont play hard, he looks the part but he wants to shot jumpers and cant play the 3 spot. I cant wait til St Johns comes to the Shoe and Big O is getting tormented while he sits on the the bench to a sellout crowd. hey if he wants the "mecca" and empty gyms he went to the right spot....
Talk about sour grapes!!
The link to the story is below, but you need to be an "insider" to access the full story.
http://insider.espn.go.com/blog/ncbrecruiting/national/post?id=2333 (http://insider.espn.go.com/blog/ncbrecruiting/national/post?id=2333)
Why read something written by someone from Cincinnati? It's a thug school. Who cares what they think?
You're right Poison. I shouldn't care. I was just taken aback by the ignorance of the post.
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Is anyone hearing that he picked St John's over Uconn? Uconn's defections cost them.
Beating out Uconn is much cooler for SJU. We may finally be seeing St John's and Uconn reverse fortunes.
Perhaps the decision Chris made will have an impact on the future of both programs.
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Is anyone hearing that he picked St John's over Uconn? Uconn's defections cost them.
Beating out Uconn is much cooler for SJU. We may finally be seeing St John's and Uconn reverse fortunes.
Perhaps the decision Chris made will have an impact on the future of both programs.
Few thoughts:
1) Is that a rumor you heard somewhere because by all accounts Cincy was his other choice?
2) Ultimately any team not chosen is the second choice and
3) I don't care if SJU beat out UCONN or Yukon Cornelius for this kid.
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Fordham,
1) By all accounts Cincy was his first choice
2) All losers do not come in second. If so, I'd be cashing a lot of tickets at the track.
3) If this kid wound up choosing Uconn I would get sick.
He had 238 blocks in 28 games as a senior. He also shot 58% from the field.
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Fordham,
1) By all accounts Cincy was his first choice
2) All losers do not come in second. If so, I'd be cashing a lot of tickets at the track.
3) If this kid wound up choosing Uconn I would get sick.
He had 238 blocks in 28 games as a senior. He also shot 58% from the field.
I'm really psyched at getting CO. But I do temper it a bit by remembering the best shotblocker a my other school in the past 40 years has NOT been a major impact guy, Anthony Stover as a high school senior blocked 342 shots leading his team to the California state title. But he managed only 6 minutes a game as a redshirt freshman, and only 8.4 this past season as a Soph. He still managed to finish 4th in the pac 12 in shotblocks, even at only 8 minutes a game.
Just trying to keep in mind that there's more needed for floor time than just one specific skill. Unfortunately in the hightlight reels, shotblocking is the main emphasis. Hoping the other (unshown in the vids) skills are there, and he's MAJOR impact.
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Hope so too. On the downside his free throws were south of 50%.
He is coming to play for a staff that will work him like no other.
I also think he improves Gifts game big time. Gift will be going against him in practice. Then when the games begin and he comes off the bench he'll be able to go strong from the bell.
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My concern with the upcoming season is if the opponent shut down dLO where does the offense come from?
I thought Garrett made significant progress offensively. He could make a jump.
I'm with you on this poison, I really like Garrett also. He seems like the kind of player who has a lot of potential to create with the ball if he responds to our coaches. I like his quickness combined with his length and ball handling ability. I feel like he will be a guy who can use his first step to get next to his defender, and then from that point he needs to really work on a 1 dribble pull up and a little hesitation step back jumper like James Harden. If he can become consistent in that 15-18 foot mid-range area, I think he can use head and ball fakes from there to get opponents up in the air or off balance and use his length and athleticism to get layups and get to the line. Garrett is also a pretty decent distributor for his position.
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I'm really not worried about what we can do offensively. Outside of D-Lo, Phil is a really good scorer who we saw maybe thrown off slightly with his adjustment to full-time PG. Thought he improved in that aspect as we got into February and he's a pretty good scorer. Also I would expect that Dom makes a jump from some of his pure raw length to some more polished offensive abilities, as freshmen to soph year is usually when that happens. Same for Amir.
As for our freshmen, JaKarr has really improved the consistency on his midrange game from last year to this year so look for us to use him to try and get in the particularly when teams zone us. Orlando Sanchez also has a really nice touch and can knock down jumpshots and Bourgeault is obviously our shooting specialist if/when we need one. Even though D-Lo is the primary engine, I'm really not all that worried about our scoring unless D-Lo gets into a lot of foul trouble or something.
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Fordham,
1) By all accounts Cincy was his first choice
No SJU was his first choice, that is why he is a Johnny. Cincy at one point could have been his first choice as long rumored but since he NEVER verbaled there and ultimately the only schoo he publically verbaled to and signed papers with was and is SJU then it is safe to say that SJU was and is his first choice.
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Fordham,
1) By all accounts Cincy was his first choice
No SJU was his first choice, that is why he is a Johnny. Cincy at one point could have been his first choice as long rumored but since he NEVER verbaled there and ultimately the only schoo he publically verbaled to and signed papers with was and is SJU then it is safe to say that SJU was and is his first choice.
Well said. There were also tons of rumors of him bent ineligible and other things. Doesn't really matter at this point. His first and only choice is SJU. Seems he just wanted to take as much time as he needed to decide. Lavin was smart to wait it out and not pressure him. That is a hallmark of our staff's recruiting strategy. Looks like Mick Cronin didn't have the patience to wait Obekpa out forever if needed. The final result is that we landed the prize. A young gazelle of a center who we desperately needed as a piece of our puzzle and he's fully qualified. Kudos to our staff for having the wherewithal to stick it out until the very satisfying end.
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Fordham,
1) By all accounts Cincy was his first choice
No SJU was his first choice, that is why he is a Johnny. Cincy at one point could have been his first choice as long rumored but since he NEVER verbaled there and ultimately the only schoo he publically verbaled to and signed papers with was and is SJU then it is safe to say that SJU was and is his first choice.
Well said. There were also tons of rumors of him bent ineligible and other things. Doesn't really matter at this point. His first and only choice is SJU. Seems he just wanted to take as much time as he needed to decide. Lavin was smart to wait it out and not pressure him. That is a hallmark of our staff's recruiting strategy. Looks like Mick Cronin didn't have the patience to wait Obekpa out forever if needed. The final result is that we landed the prize. A young gazelle of a center who we desperately needed as a piece of our puzzle and he's fully qualified. Kudos to our staff for having the wherewithal to stick it out until the very satisfying end.
But is it really the end ? Anyone else even mildly concerned that he signed a letter ( not an LOI, which he couldn't sign ) that apparently gives him the right to back out of the ship without permission of the school and with no penalty ? Just asking !
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As a result of his waiting to make a decision, it was the only thing he could sign.
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As a result of his waiting to make a decision, it was the only thing he could sign.
Yes but he controlled the timing of that decision. That's my point.
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Fordham,
1) By all accounts Cincy was his first choice
No SJU was his first choice, that is why he is a Johnny. Cincy at one point could have been his first choice as long rumored but since he NEVER verbaled there and ultimately the only schoo he publically verbaled to and signed papers with was and is SJU then it is safe to say that SJU was and is his first choice.
Well said. There were also tons of rumors of him bent ineligible and other things. Doesn't really matter at this point. His first and only choice is SJU. Seems he just wanted to take as much time as he needed to decide. Lavin was smart to wait it out and not pressure him. That is a hallmark of our staff's recruiting strategy. Looks like Mick Cronin didn't have the patience to wait Obekpa out forever if needed. The final result is that we landed the prize. A young gazelle of a center who we desperately needed as a piece of our puzzle and he's fully qualified. Kudos to our staff for having the wherewithal to stick it out until the very satisfying end.
But is it really the end ? Anyone else even mildly concerned that he signed a letter ( not an LOI, which he couldn't sign ) that apparently gives him the right to back out of the ship without permission of the school and with no penalty ? Just asking !
Not worried. Practice starts real soon. Obekpa was real deliberate about choosing his school and took a long time. It doesnt sound like he was manipulating in any way. It seems he just took a long time to make an informed decision. Like I said, practice/summer workouts start any day now. I don't think he has plans of going anywhere else. He'll be packing and getting ready to room with Felix.
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For any of you fine folks in this NYC-area and interested: Chris Obekpa will be playing at Dyckman tomorrow (Thursday) night at 8:15PM. Get there early if you decide to go.
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Not sure if this has been posted elsewhere, but Zags claims Chris will have no problem qualifying.
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I'm told #stjbb commit Chris Obekpa is qualified and does well academically in high school.
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My concern with the upcoming season is if the opponent shut down dLO where does the offense come from?
I thought Garrett made significant progress offensively. He could make a jump.
I'm with you on this poison, I really like Garrett also. He seems like the kind of player who has a lot of potential to create with the ball if he responds to our coaches. I like his quickness combined with his length and ball handling ability. I feel like he will be a guy who can use his first step to get next to his defender, and then from that point he needs to really work on a 1 dribble pull up and a little hesitation step back jumper like James Harden. If he can become consistent in that 15-18 foot mid-range area, I think he can use head and ball fakes from there to get opponents up in the air or off balance and use his length and athleticism to get layups and get to the line. Garrett is also a pretty decent distributor for his position.
I agree with the both of you. Hard not to like Garrett. Some think he'll be behind Dom because he's playing baseball this summer. I don't see it that way. Amir got better with each game. I think he'll continue to improve. That midrange jump shot is key.
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Amir looked like he had the highest ceiling of all players, sans Mo (and maybe Harris) last season. He came in mid-year, and rose to the challenge, progressed daily. I do not think it is a gimme that he is beat out for the 3 spot by Sampson next season, not because of baseball. He is one heck of an athlete, maybe the best on the team (tough to gauge and no small order).
I could see a starting five of -for the beginning of the season at least:
Green
DLO
Garret
Sanchez
GG/CO
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Fordham,
1) By all accounts Cincy was his first choice
No SJU was his first choice, that is why he is a Johnny. Cincy at one point could have been his first choice as long rumored but since he NEVER verbaled there and ultimately the only schoo he publically verbaled to and signed papers with was and is SJU then it is safe to say that SJU was and is his first choice.
There's no question that SJU and Lavin was his first choice. SJU was probably his first choice when by all accounts Cincy was in the lead.
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Fordham,
1) By all accounts Cincy was his first choice
No SJU was his first choice, that is why he is a Johnny. Cincy at one point could have been his first choice as long rumored but since he NEVER verbaled there and ultimately the only schoo he publically verbaled to and signed papers with was and is SJU then it is safe to say that SJU was and is his first choice.
Well said. There were also tons of rumors of him bent ineligible and other things. Doesn't really matter at this point. His first and only choice is SJU. Seems he just wanted to take as much time as he needed to decide. Lavin was smart to wait it out and not pressure him. That is a hallmark of our staff's recruiting strategy. Looks like Mick Cronin didn't have the patience to wait Obekpa out forever if needed. The final result is that we landed the prize. A young gazelle of a center who we desperately needed as a piece of our puzzle and he's fully qualified. Kudos to our staff for having the wherewithal to stick it out until the very satisfying end.
But is it really the end ? Anyone else even mildly concerned that he signed a letter ( not an LOI, which he couldn't sign ) that apparently gives him the right to back out of the ship without permission of the school and with no penalty ? Just asking !
The kid is very excited about attending St John's.
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Getting the first look At obekpa since signing here at the D&D pro am tournament chip here at the highschool of construction playing on a team with another former johnnie Malik boothe
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Obekpa hasn't got off the bench Yet but ant glover in the game !!
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STJ_Basketball @STJ_Basketball
BIG OFFICIAL #STJBB WELCOME TO CHRISTOPHER OBEKPA! @christopherewao's financial aid agreement was received, he's officially a Johnny!!!
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STJ_Basketball @STJ_Basketball
BIG OFFICIAL #STJBB WELCOME TO CHRISTOPHER OBEKPA! @christopherewao's financial aid agreement was received, he's officially a Johnny!!!
And that explains why STJ never publicly mentioned him prior.
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STJ_Basketball @STJ_Basketball
BIG OFFICIAL #STJBB WELCOME TO CHRISTOPHER OBEKPA! @christopherewao's financial aid agreement was received, he's officially a Johnny!!!
And that explains why STJ never publicly mentioned him prior.
And why we haven't heard the staff yet publicly dicuss Jones.
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STJ_Basketball @STJ_Basketball
BIG OFFICIAL #STJBB WELCOME TO CHRISTOPHER OBEKPA! @christopherewao's financial aid agreement was received, he's officially a Johnny!!!
And that explains why STJ never publicly mentioned him prior.
And why we haven't heard the staff yet publicly dicuss Jones.
For the same reason you indicated earlier, until his scholarship papers are formerly processed they cannot. And think about it, it has been 3 weeks between Obekpa verballing and the official announcement that he is a Johnny. It can take awhile.
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STJ_Basketball @STJ_Basketball
BIG OFFICIAL #STJBB WELCOME TO CHRISTOPHER OBEKPA! @christopherewao's financial aid agreement was received, he's officially a Johnny!!!
And that explains why STJ never publicly mentioned him prior.
And why we haven't heard the staff yet publicly dicuss Jones.
For the same reason you indicated earlier, until his scholarship papers are formerly processed they cannot. And think about it, it has been 3 weeks between Obekpa verballing and the official announcement that he is a Johnny. It can take awhile.
Especially with St. J's staffers handling the process (and I don't mean anyone in the sports department).
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Nice summary
“@STJ_Basketball: IT'S OFFICIAL: @STJCoachLavin Adds Top 20 Center Chris Obekpa (@christopherewao) To Seven-Man #STJBB Recruiting Class: http://t.co/xhnXRrHq (http://t.co/xhnXRrHq)”
Lavin's squad graduated an unprecedented 10 seniors in 2011. Equal to the task, Lavin has now signed 18 student-athletes since arriving at St. John's in March of 2010. St. John's could sign one additional student-athlete for 2012-13 should Lavin elect to do so. The Red Storm's 2011 recruiting class was rated No. 3 in the nation when completed last spring, and the 2012 group has been cited as high as No. 8 according to recruiting services.
Hmm, "should Lavin elect to do so" Why mention that at all?
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Nice summary
“@STJ_Basketball: IT'S OFFICIAL: @STJCoachLavin Adds Top 20 Center Chris Obekpa (@christopherewao) To Seven-Man #STJBB Recruiting Class: http://t.co/xhnXRrHq (http://t.co/xhnXRrHq)”
Lavin's squad graduated an unprecedented 10 seniors in 2011. Equal to the task, Lavin has now signed 18 student-athletes since arriving at St. John's in March of 2010. St. John's could sign one additional student-athlete for 2012-13 should Lavin elect to do so. The Red Storm's 2011 recruiting class was rated No. 3 in the nation when completed last spring, and the 2012 group has been cited as high as No. 8 according to recruiting services.
Hmm, "should Lavin elect to do so" Why mention that at all?
Could be lots of things. Might be unfair to speculate. Maybe he needs Jones' paperwork to check out? Could still mean Wood in the picture and Hooper walking on Marillac style.
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Nice summary
“@STJ_Basketball: IT'S OFFICIAL: @STJCoachLavin Adds Top 20 Center Chris Obekpa (@christopherewao) To Seven-Man #STJBB Recruiting Class: http://t.co/xhnXRrHq (http://t.co/xhnXRrHq)”
Lavin's squad graduated an unprecedented 10 seniors in 2011. Equal to the task, Lavin has now signed 18 student-athletes since arriving at St. John's in March of 2010. St. John's could sign one additional student-athlete for 2012-13 should Lavin elect to do so. The Red Storm's 2011 recruiting class was rated No. 3 in the nation when completed last spring, and the 2012 group has been cited as high as No. 8 according to recruiting services.
Hmm, "should Lavin elect to do so" Why mention that at all?
Don't know, but who cares? Always great to see that the paperwork is in and everything is official. Obekpa is a tenacious post defender with a great motor. He's a guy that will really change our makeup. Everything I've ever read indicates he's a by hard worker, and for a post player, there's nothing more important. Battling Gift in practice will do him a lot of good as well.
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Nice summary
“@STJ_Basketball: IT'S OFFICIAL: @STJCoachLavin Adds Top 20 Center Chris Obekpa (@christopherewao) To Seven-Man #STJBB Recruiting Class: http://t.co/xhnXRrHq (http://t.co/xhnXRrHq)”
Lavin's squad graduated an unprecedented 10 seniors in 2011. Equal to the task, Lavin has now signed 18 student-athletes since arriving at St. John's in March of 2010. St. John's could sign one additional student-athlete for 2012-13 should Lavin elect to do so. The Red Storm's 2011 recruiting class was rated No. 3 in the nation when completed last spring, and the 2012 group has been cited as high as No. 8 according to recruiting services.
Hmm, "should Lavin elect to do so" Why mention that at all?
Don't know, but who cares? Always great to see that the paperwork is in and everything is official. Obekpa is a tenacious post defender with a great motor. He's a guy that will really change our makeup. Everything I've ever read indicates he's a by hard worker, and for a post player, there's nothing more important. Battling Gift in practice will do him a lot of good as well.
You are staing the obvious Marcus. I was not sowing seeds of a conspiracy, but simply stating my curiosity about the last ship.
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Nice summary
“@STJ_Basketball: IT'S OFFICIAL: @STJCoachLavin Adds Top 20 Center Chris Obekpa (@christopherewao) To Seven-Man #STJBB Recruiting Class: http://t.co/xhnXRrHq (http://t.co/xhnXRrHq)”
Lavin's squad graduated an unprecedented 10 seniors in 2011. Equal to the task, Lavin has now signed 18 student-athletes since arriving at St. John's in March of 2010. St. John's could sign one additional student-athlete for 2012-13 should Lavin elect to do so. The Red Storm's 2011 recruiting class was rated No. 3 in the nation when completed last spring, and the 2012 group has been cited as high as No. 8 according to recruiting services.
Hmm, "should Lavin elect to do so" Why mention that at all?
Also who ranked us 8?
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Nice summary
“@STJ_Basketball: IT'S OFFICIAL: @STJCoachLavin Adds Top 20 Center Chris Obekpa (@christopherewao) To Seven-Man #STJBB Recruiting Class: http://t.co/xhnXRrHq (http://t.co/xhnXRrHq)”
Lavin's squad graduated an unprecedented 10 seniors in 2011. Equal to the task, Lavin has now signed 18 student-athletes since arriving at St. John's in March of 2010. St. John's could sign one additional student-athlete for 2012-13 should Lavin elect to do so. The Red Storm's 2011 recruiting class was rated No. 3 in the nation when completed last spring, and the 2012 group has been cited as high as No. 8 according to recruiting services.
Hmm, "should Lavin elect to do so" Why mention that at all?
Also who ranked us 8?
Lavinmetrics, new recruiting service
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Nice summary
“@STJ_Basketball: IT'S OFFICIAL: @STJCoachLavin Adds Top 20 Center Chris Obekpa (@christopherewao) To Seven-Man #STJBB Recruiting Class: http://t.co/xhnXRrHq (http://t.co/xhnXRrHq)”
Lavin's squad graduated an unprecedented 10 seniors in 2011. Equal to the task, Lavin has now signed 18 student-athletes since arriving at St. John's in March of 2010. St. John's could sign one additional student-athlete for 2012-13 should Lavin elect to do so. The Red Storm's 2011 recruiting class was rated No. 3 in the nation when completed last spring, and the 2012 group has been cited as high as No. 8 according to recruiting services.
Hmm, "should Lavin elect to do so" Why mention that at all?
Could be lots of things. Might be unfair to speculate. Maybe he needs Jones' paperwork to check out? Could still mean Wood in the picture and Hooper walking on Marillac style.
FWIW told today Wood is going Juco in Florida. Not verified, but a person's opinion I value. We will see. Juco is obviously no surprise to any of us.
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Nice summary
“@STJ_Basketball: IT'S OFFICIAL: @STJCoachLavin Adds Top 20 Center Chris Obekpa (@christopherewao) To Seven-Man #STJBB Recruiting Class: http://t.co/xhnXRrHq (http://t.co/xhnXRrHq)”
Lavin's squad graduated an unprecedented 10 seniors in 2011. Equal to the task, Lavin has now signed 18 student-athletes since arriving at St. John's in March of 2010. St. John's could sign one additional student-athlete for 2012-13 should Lavin elect to do so. The Red Storm's 2011 recruiting class was rated No. 3 in the nation when completed last spring, and the 2012 group has been cited as high as No. 8 according to recruiting services.
Hmm, "should Lavin elect to do so" Why mention that at all?
Could be lots of things. Might be unfair to speculate. Maybe he needs Jones' paperwork to check out? Could still mean Wood in the picture and Hooper walking on Marillac style.
FWIW told today Wood is going Juco in Florida. Not verified, but a person's opinion I value. We will see. Juco is obviously no surprise to any of us.
You didn't hear that from me did you? LOL!
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Nice summary
“@STJ_Basketball: IT'S OFFICIAL: @STJCoachLavin Adds Top 20 Center Chris Obekpa (@christopherewao) To Seven-Man #STJBB Recruiting Class: http://t.co/xhnXRrHq (http://t.co/xhnXRrHq)”
Lavin's squad graduated an unprecedented 10 seniors in 2011. Equal to the task, Lavin has now signed 18 student-athletes since arriving at St. John's in March of 2010. St. John's could sign one additional student-athlete for 2012-13 should Lavin elect to do so. The Red Storm's 2011 recruiting class was rated No. 3 in the nation when completed last spring, and the 2012 group has been cited as high as No. 8 according to recruiting services.
Hmm, "should Lavin elect to do so" Why mention that at all?
Could be lots of things. Might be unfair to speculate. Maybe he needs Jones' paperwork to check out? Could still mean Wood in the picture and Hooper walking on Marillac style.
FWIW told today Wood is going Juco in Florida. Not verified, but a person's opinion I value. We will see. Juco is obviously no surprise to any of us.
You didn't hear that from me did you? LOL!
No, but I do value your opinion !
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Nice summary
“@STJ_Basketball: IT'S OFFICIAL: @STJCoachLavin Adds Top 20 Center Chris Obekpa (@christopherewao) To Seven-Man #STJBB Recruiting Class: http://t.co/xhnXRrHq (http://t.co/xhnXRrHq)”
Lavin's squad graduated an unprecedented 10 seniors in 2011. Equal to the task, Lavin has now signed 18 student-athletes since arriving at St. John's in March of 2010. St. John's could sign one additional student-athlete for 2012-13 should Lavin elect to do so. The Red Storm's 2011 recruiting class was rated No. 3 in the nation when completed last spring, and the 2012 group has been cited as high as No. 8 according to recruiting services.
Hmm, "should Lavin elect to do so" Why mention that at all?
Don't know, but who cares? Always great to see that the paperwork is in and everything is official. Obekpa is a tenacious post defender with a great motor. He's a guy that will really change our makeup. Everything I've ever read indicates he's a by hard worker, and for a post player, there's nothing more important. Battling Gift in practice will do him a lot of good as well.
You are staing the obvious Marcus. I was not sowing seeds of a conspiracy, but simply stating my curiosity about the last ship.
Fratto has to be very careful how he discusses unsigned players for obvious reasons.
But all indications are Jones will be officially set to go next week.
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Nice summary
“@STJ_Basketball: IT'S OFFICIAL: @STJCoachLavin Adds Top 20 Center Chris Obekpa (@christopherewao) To Seven-Man #STJBB Recruiting Class: http://t.co/xhnXRrHq (http://t.co/xhnXRrHq)”
Lavin's squad graduated an unprecedented 10 seniors in 2011. Equal to the task, Lavin has now signed 18 student-athletes since arriving at St. John's in March of 2010. St. John's could sign one additional student-athlete for 2012-13 should Lavin elect to do so. The Red Storm's 2011 recruiting class was rated No. 3 in the nation when completed last spring, and the 2012 group has been cited as high as No. 8 according to recruiting services.
Hmm, "should Lavin elect to do so" Why mention that at all?
Don't know, but who cares? Always great to see that the paperwork is in and everything is official. Obekpa is a tenacious post defender with a great motor. He's a guy that will really change our makeup. Everything I've ever read indicates he's a by hard worker, and for a post player, there's nothing more important. Battling Gift in practice will do him a lot of good as well.
You are staing the obvious Marcus. I was not sowing seeds of a conspiracy, but simply stating my curiosity about the last ship.
Fratto has to be very careful how he discusses unsigned players for obvious reasons.
But all indications are Jones will be officially set to go next week.
Maybe his 'setback' had to do with packing ;)
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Stole this from Iona board(anyone know how Obekpa played?
"Saw Glover play today for Bingos all stars at hoops in the sun. The announcers wished him good luck during the game as he hopes to hear something this tuesday concerning the NBA summer league. believe one starts this week and the other next week. As far as Mike and the game he looked in great shape and handled the ball really well, and of course crashed the boards and was unstoppable driving to the basket. He even had to go up against at time St. Johns recruit chris Obepka, who is an amazing athlete. Mikes backcourt was Steve Burtt Jr. ( he went up against Tutu Holloway from Xavier and headed to the Raptors summer league team) and Kiki Clark. Justin Marshall also played in the game. Nice surprise to see the former Gaels play at the beach. Best of luck to Mike this week !! "
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Another post from Iona board who watched Obekpa play at Hoops in the Sun
"Obekpa is going to be a beast at St. John's and in the Big East - and very well may be a future lottery pick - if he bulks up. "
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Another post from Iona board who watched Obekpa play at Hoops in the Sun
"Obekpa is going to be a beast at St. John's and in the Big East - and very well may be a future lottery pick - if he bulks up. "
Fantastic to hear. Obekpa was a huge pickup for us. Big impact player in the middle who will make defensive presence felt right away. His offense will come along with hard work. Not many out there càn match his impact altering shots though.
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Another post from Iona board who watched Obekpa play at Hoops in the Sun
"Obekpa is going to be a beast at St. John's and in the Big East - and very well may be a future lottery pick - if he bulks up. "
Fantastic to hear. Obekpa was a huge pickup for us. Big impact player in the middle who will make defensive presence felt right away. His offense will come along with hard work. Not many out there càn match his impact altering shots though.
Ya man. Our guys can cheat defensively knowing hes waiting in the paint. Long guys like Amir
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Another post from Iona board who watched Obekpa play at Hoops in the Sun
"Obekpa is going to be a beast at St. John's and in the Big East - and very well may be a future lottery pick - if he bulks up. "
Fantastic to hear. Obekpa was a huge pickup for us. Big impact player in the middle who will make defensive presence felt right away. His offense will come along with hard work. Not many out there càn match his impact altering shots though.
Ya man. Our guys can cheat defensively knowing hes waiting in the paint. Long guys like Amir
It will change the plans of a lot of guys entering the lane. Gift really isn't much of a shotblocker at all. Obekpa is taller and much better defensive presence. Zones can extend out more and obekpa is able to cover a lot of ground very fast. Can't wait to see what these guys can do.
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Another post from Iona board who watched Obekpa play at Hoops in the Sun
"Obekpa is going to be a beast at St. John's and in the Big East - and very well may be a future lottery pick - if he bulks up. "
Fantastic to hear. Obekpa was a huge pickup for us. Big impact player in the middle who will make defensive presence felt right away. His offense will come along with hard work. Not many out there càn match his impact altering shots though.
Ya man. Our guys can cheat defensively knowing hes waiting in the paint. Long guys like Amir
It will change the plans of a lot of guys entering the lane. Gift really isn't much of a shotblocker at all. Obekpa is taller and much better defensive presence. Zones can extend out more and obekpa is able to cover a lot of ground very fast. Can't wait to see what these guys can do.
love when guys with the arms down to their ankles can deny the passing lanes, than get out on the break on turnovers. Amir and Pointer will have a field day
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Another post from Iona board who watched Obekpa play at Hoops in the Sun
"Obekpa is going to be a beast at St. John's and in the Big East - and very well may be a future lottery pick - if he bulks up. "
FYI - In the last 5 years, lottos include #1 overall Anthony Davis at 6'10 220. Kevin Durant at 6'10 215, Brandon Wright at 6'9 205, Joachin Noah at 6'11 225, Yi Janlian at 7'0 223, Danillo Gallinaro at 6'10 220, Anthony Randoph at 6'10 205, Earl Clark 6'10 220, Farouq Al-Aminu 6'9 209, Ed Davis 6'10 222, Janos Valanicious 6'11 228, and John Henson 6'11 218.
It's been a LONG time since the NBA has waited for players to "bulk up" before taking them in the Lottery.....FYI - Nerlens Noel measured 6'11 215 at the Hoop fest 8 weeks ago...Nobody's putting the "bulking up" qualifier on HIM... Bulks got nothing to do with it. If the talent is there, 215 like Noel or 265 like Drummond, they're getting picked....
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Tweet from Chris Obekpa this AM
"Mutombo did it, Wallace followed, why can't I do it... D is what I luv...#motivation"
Really refreshing. Love having a big man who takes pride in his defense. It's extremely rare these days.
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Tweet from Chris Obekpa this AM
"Mutombo did it, Wallace followed, why can't I do it... D is what I luv...#motivation"
Really refreshing. Love having a big man who takes pride in his defense. It's extremely rare these days.
I don't recall ever having a player with his skill set. We could be great defensively with him if he's ready to defend right away. Even if he just contributes as an honest defender, Pointer, Garrett, Branch and Greene can set the tone.
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Tweet from Chris Obekpa this AM
"Mutombo did it, Wallace followed, why can't I do it... D is what I luv...#motivation"
Really refreshing. Love having a big man who takes pride in his defense. It's extremely rare these days.
I don't recall ever having a player with his skill set. We could be great defensively with him if he's ready to defend right away. Even if he just contributes as an honest defender, Pointer, Garrett, Branch and Greene can set the tone.
Agree
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Tweet from Chris Obekpa this AM
"Mutombo did it, Wallace followed, why can't I do it... D is what I luv...#motivation"
Really refreshing. Love having a big man who takes pride in his defense. It's extremely rare these days.
I don't recall ever having a player with his skill set. We could be great defensively with him if he's ready to defend right away. Even if he just contributes as an honest defender, Pointer, Garrett, Branch and Greene can set the tone.
Poison, you like Phil's defense that much to mention him with the others? Hmm. I'm not disagreeing, I guess I just never thought of what he brings to the table defensively. Usually graded his games last season by how well he handled the point.. but you're right, he is pretty solid on D.
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Tweet from Chris Obekpa this AM
"Mutombo did it, Wallace followed, why can't I do it... D is what I luv...#motivation"
Really refreshing. Love having a big man who takes pride in his defense. It's extremely rare these days.
I don't recall ever having a player with his skill set. We could be great defensively with him if he's ready to defend right away. Even if he just contributes as an honest defender, Pointer, Garrett, Branch and Greene can set the tone.
Poison, you like Phil's defense that much to mention him with the others? Hmm. I'm not disagreeing, I guess I just never thought of what he brings to the table defensively. Usually graded his games last season by how well he handled the point.. but you're right, he is pretty solid on D.
I also like Phil as a defender. Hes quick, long, and most importantly hes tough
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I moved all the Phil Greene talk to the main board. Lets keep this thread on Chris
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Can anyone confirm that Chris Obekpa started summer school this week.?
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Can anyone confirm that Chris Obekpa started summer school this week.?
It is "Christopher" Pat! Just kidding man!
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Touché...
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Not to be the bearer of bad news once again but there might be issues with both Chris Obekpa and Felix Balamou qualifying. They are looking into it as of now.
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Not to be the bearer of bad news once again but there might be issues with both Chris Obekpa and Felix Balamou qualifying. They are looking into it as of now.
FCK! Thought this crap was over
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Not to be the bearer of bad news once again but there might be issues with both Chris Obekpa and Felix Balamou qualifying. They are looking into it as of now.
FCK! Thought this crap was over
Thought both were already enrolled and in class. Isn't "qualified" a prerequisite for that?
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Not to be the bearer of bad news once again but there might be issues with both Chris Obekpa and Felix Balamou qualifying. They are looking into it as of now.
Can u be a lil more specific?
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This is crazy...
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This is crazy...
University said Obekpa was qualified to play. Unless they are lying, this is BS.
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This is crazy...
University said Obekpa was qualified to play. Unless they are lying, this is BS.
Im going to venture a guess that it isn't Bs. Maybe something the University didn't know about? I have no idea? I just know that I'm not liking this.
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This is crazy...
University said Obekpa was qualified to play. Unless they are lying, this is BS.
Im going to venture a guess that it isn't Bs. Maybe something the University didn't know about? I have no idea? I just know that I'm not liking this.
Do you think the athletic dept would be this careless again?
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Hoping this is nothing. That said, was the scramble to recruit Christian Jones tied to this? Front court safety net? Never a dull moment!
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Hoping this is nothing. That said, was the scramble to recruit Christian Jones tied to this? Front court safety net? Never a dull moment!
Snooze: Typical NCAA clearinghouse phuckery... With smaller, private D1 schools that compete on a big time stage, the clearinghouse always works against you, never in a player's favor.
Note: I am a die hard Miami Hurricane football fan. Getting screwed over by the NCAA is what happens to us. I am a die hard St. John's fan. Getting screwed over by the NCAA is what happens to us.
As a Cane and Johnny fan, I can say the NCAA screwed both of my beloved programs in favor of tO$U.
Final four appearance -SJU
National championship -UM (2002)
Bottom line: I loathe the NCAA, have no faith in them, simply do not trust 'em. They have costed my program's success, and for that, I will neevr trust 'em -ever.
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This is crazy...
University said Obekpa was qualified to play. Unless they are lying, this is BS.
Im going to venture a guess that it isn't Bs. Maybe something the University didn't know about? I have no idea? I just know that I'm not liking this.
Do you think the athletic dept would be this careless again?
No, but the NCAA throws curveballs. I truthfully don't know what it's related to. Obekpa and Balamou were announced and on campus. Whatever it is, it's safe to say the staff must have been blindsided by it.
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This is crazy...
University said Obekpa was qualified to play. Unless they are lying, this is BS.
Im going to venture a guess that it isn't Bs. Maybe something the University didn't know about? I have no idea? I just know that I'm not liking this.
Do you think the athletic dept would be this careless again?
No, but the NCAA throws curveballs. I truthfully don't know what it's related to. Obekpa and Balamou were announced and on campus. Whatever it is, it's safe to say the staff must have been blindsided by it.
Do you think that maybe you're taking a post by a fan incredibly seriously? Has this even been mentioned anywhere else?
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This is crazy...
University said Obekpa was qualified to play. Unless they are lying, this is BS.
Im going to venture a guess that it isn't Bs. Maybe something the University didn't know about? I have no idea? I just know that I'm not liking this.
Do you think the athletic dept would be this careless again?
No, but the NCAA throws curveballs. I truthfully don't know what it's related to. Obekpa and Balamou were announced and on campus. Whatever it is, it's safe to say the staff must have been blindsided by it.
Do you think that maybe you're taking a post by a fan incredibly seriously? Has this even been mentioned anywhere else?
Trust me. Take it seriously...
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Not to be the bearer of bad news once again but there might be issues with both Chris Obekpa and Felix Balamou qualifying. They are looking into it as of now.
FCK! Thought this crap was over
Thought both were already enrolled and in class. Isn't "qualified" a prerequisite for that?
Not really although you would think that compliance would feel pretty confident that both are going to be cleared to play before starting summer school.
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This is crazy...
University said Obekpa was qualified to play. Unless they are lying, this is BS.
Im going to venture a guess that it isn't Bs. Maybe something the University didn't know about? I have no idea? I just know that I'm not liking this.
Do you think the athletic dept would be this careless again?
No, but the NCAA throws curveballs. I truthfully don't know what it's related to. Obekpa and Balamou were announced and on campus. Whatever it is, it's safe to say the staff must have been blindsided by it.
Do you think that maybe you're taking a post by a fan incredibly seriously? Has this even been mentioned anywhere else?
I don't think the poster is just a typical fan
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Lots of questions, is it something that will be worked out before classes start in late aug/sept? is it going to be like the derwin kitchen situation where they can't enroll here? or a thing that could take the first semester to clear up and they are eligiable in december.
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It's the school not the kids per se.
NCAA looking at Our Savior making sure they are in compliance.
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:uglystupid2:
It's the school not the kids per se.
NCAA looking at Our Savior making sure they are in compliance.
Thanks Fordham. Doesn't sound like Defcon 1 here, but hopefully all gets cleared up soon.
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Guy's I have posted only twice before and that was about the players in the 2011 class not getting cleared and we all know how that played out. As Fordham said, it has more to do with OSNA but if things don't turn out right, it will affect the players. Hopefully things will all get cleared up soon but I put up the post to keep us in the loop. Unfortunately I can't be too specific about the details due to regulations until someone else or the the news breaks out the story. I will do my best to keep you guys informed about the outcome.
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Guy's I have posted only twice before and that was about the players in the 2011 class not getting cleared and we all know how that played out. As Fordham said, it has more to do with OSNA but if things don't turn out right, it will affect the players. Hopefully things will all get cleared up soon but I put up the post to keep us in the loop. Unfortunately I can't be too specific about the details due to regulations until someone else or the the news breaks out the story. I will do my best to keep you guys informed about the outcome.
By "cleared up" do you mean resolved, or out in the open?
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Guy's I have posted only twice before and that was about the players in the 2011 class not getting cleared and we all know how that played out. As Fordham said, it has more to do with OSNA but if things don't turn out right, it will affect the players. Hopefully things will all get cleared up soon but I put up the post to keep us in the loop. Unfortunately I can't be too specific about the details due to regulations until someone else or the the news breaks out the story. I will do my best to keep you guys informed about the outcome.
So, what do you think the chances are of him not qualifying if you had to guess?
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oh dam!
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Not to be the bearer of bad news once again but there might be issues with both Chris Obekpa and Felix Balamou qualifying. They are looking into it as of now.
FCK! Thought this crap was over
Thought both were already enrolled and in class. Isn't "qualified" a prerequisite for that?
Not really although you would think that compliance would feel pretty confident that both are going to be cleared to play before starting summer school.
I thought scholarships aren't funded unless the kids are qualified. Are our kids paying cash up front for summe school?
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Guy's I have posted only twice before and that was about the players in the 2011 class not getting cleared and we all know how that played out. As Fordham said, it has more to do with OSNA but if things don't turn out right, it will affect the players. Hopefully things will all get cleared up soon but I put up the post to keep us in the loop. Unfortunately I can't be too specific about the details due to regulations until someone else or the the news breaks out the story. I will do my best to keep you guys informed about the outcome.
The school is aware of the issue, OSNA has been on an NCAA watch list for awhile. I believe QEA is on that list and it took Sir'Dom Pointer a little while to clear but it happened.
Staff is not overly concerned I was told as both Felix and Chris are enrolled and participating in off season workouts. But it is worth noting and worth keeping in mind until it is finally resolved.
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Guy's I have posted only twice before and that was about the players in the 2011 class not getting cleared and we all know how that played out. As Fordham said, it has more to do with OSNA but if things don't turn out right, it will affect the players. Hopefully things will all get cleared up soon but I put up the post to keep us in the loop. Unfortunately I can't be too specific about the details due to regulations until someone else or the the news breaks out the story. I will do my best to keep you guys informed about the outcome.
The school is aware of the issue, OSNA has been on an NCAA watch list for awhile. I believe QEA is on that list and it took Sir'Dom Pointer a little while to clear but it happened.
Staff is not overly concerned I was told as both Felix and Chris are enrolled and participating in off season workouts. But it is worth noting and worth keeping in mind until it is finally resolved.
Thanks Fordham
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Isnt there some problem if a student enrolls at a university and he doesnt qualify?
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See Derwin Kitchin
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I hope this is much ado about nothing. From what I can gather from the www and from its own website, OSNAS looks like a fine Christian school and its academic rigor and graduation expectations are all clearly set out, which more than meet the standards for NY state. The SJU admissions office obviously knows the quality of local schools. The NCAA clearinghouse has its minimum standards, all of which would be met for a student who graduates from OSNAS. Why OSNAS is allegedly on a "watch list" is beyond me.
These student-athletes have, to my knowledge (from what I have gathered here) already started their educations at SJU in the summer session. They have been admitted as SJU students, separate from basketball. I suppose in a worst case scenerio, if the NCAA watchdog folks don't think OSNAS is legit (which could result in a potential lawsuit, since this is a real school with real supporters and not some diploma mill in a basement), it would mean some court eligibility issues and that the student-athletes need to take out student loans. That would suck.
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Why isn't there a system in place where coaches can find out if there are any potential problems with a school? prior to the start of the recruiting process. I mean this kid has been on a D1 program radar for well over a year and the summer before the season starts now the ncaa wants to check it out. Once again the ncaa has no clue!
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Maybe kids should go to real schools and not these basketball academies.
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Maybe kids should go to real schools and not these basketball academies.
OSNA isn't a basketball academy.
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The staff has no power to say or do anything, it has to do with the NCAA and the members on the SJU NCAA board of athletics who are given the information pertaining to the student athletes/school in question. The staff just gets the final results. It's the NCAA who has he power and the members on the SJU board of athletics who make the decisions. Trust me as of now this is a legimate concern.
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Not a basketball academy, but I definitely never got the impression that it's even an average school.
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The staff has no power to say or do anything, it has to do with the NCAA and the members on the SJU NCAA board of athletics who are given the information pertaining to the student athletes/school in question. The staff just gets the final results. It's the NCAA who has he power and the members on the SJU board of athletics who make the decisions. Trust me as of now this is a legimate concern.
That is not what I said. That would not even make any sense anyway. The staff cannot change a kid's transcripts or the school anyway so how would the power ever be in the staff's hands.
What I meant was that OSNA was on the NCAA watch list prior to Cincy or SJU or anyone else recruiting Chris or Felix. The staff and other schools knew this and pursued his recruitment anyway.
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Not a basketball academy, but I definitely never got the impression that it's even an average school.
It is a traditional school in every way except for the foreign kids playing basketball.
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why wasnt penn state on the almighty ncaa watchlist......pathetic
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PSU should get the death penalty if the ncaa had a set. But somehow St John's can't get an answer re: Chandler and now Chris and Felix..... complete joke
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Maybe kids should go to real schools and not these basketball academies.
OSNA isn't a basketball academy.
I looked at their site and it does look like a legit school, but growing up on LI I never heard of it. If it was St. Marys, LuHi, Chaminade, etc this wouldn't be an issue. Probably the same thing with QEA. Living in Charlotte I never heard of it until they started pumping out basketball player, never heard of a classmate of mine from Charlotte that went there.
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I'm trying to figure out what issue the NCAA has with the school at this point? What mysteriously happens all of a sudden in July, where a school that has been operating for 20 years an has had no issues, all of a sudden is a problem? The NCAA is out of control. They really should worry a little bit more about programs like the ones in the SEC where money flows like a river to the kids. This stuff is making me nuts. I really thought we could make it one season without an issue.
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I hope the worst case scenario is they go the Amir route. But I really hope this gets worked out in time for Sept.
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I'm trying to figure out what issue the NCAA has with the school at this point? What mysteriously happens all of a sudden in July, where a school that has been operating for 20 years an has had no issues, all of a sudden is a problem? The NCAA is out of control. They really should worry a little bit more about programs like the ones in the SEC where money flows like a river to the kids. This stuff is making me nuts. I really thought we could make it one season without an issue.
I don't think this is an all of a sudden thing. OSNA has been under watch it sounds like for awhile. If you goto the NCAA's website, you can plugin a school and see what courses the NCAA accepts from that school. If you lookup Our Savior it says:
"Additional Information:
This program is under an extended evaluation period to determine if it meets the academic requirements for NCAA cleared status. During this evaluation period, the courses listed below may be subject to further review on a case-by-case basis, which will require additional academic documentation. "
https://web1.ncaa.org/hsportal/exec/hsAction?hsActionSubmit=searchHighSchool
So it sounds like OSNA has been under watch for awhile. The coaches definitely knew this when they recruited Chris and Felix.
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There were rumblings (could have been fans making excuses) that teams like Cincy backed off on him. Maybe this is why he was still around so late.
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There were rumblings (could have been fans making excuses) that teams like Cincy backed off on him. Maybe this is why he was still around so late.
Cincy never backed off him.
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Each and every school recruiting him aware of OSNA being on watch list.
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The only think Cronin is backing off from is a comb
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There were rumblings (could have been fans making excuses) that teams like Cincy backed off on him. Maybe this is why he was still around so late.
Cincy never backed off him.
No one did.
Take a deep breath and relax.
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I just heard he is good to go, "everyone is cleared"
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I just heard he is good to go, "everyone is cleared"
Thank you for posting
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I just heard he is good to go, "everyone is cleared"
Dean Wormer?
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I just heard he is good to go, "everyone is cleared"
The big problem with F'ing with people all the time is that no one knows when you are serious or not. ;D
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I just heard he is good to go, "everyone is cleared"
The big problem with F'ing with people all the time is that no one knows when you are serious or not. ;D
I'm believe Baldi is serious. Why would this be a funny joke? No one here thinks this is funny. It's a nightmare all over again.
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I just heard he is good to go, "everyone is cleared"
The big problem with F'ing with people all the time is that no one knows when you are serious or not. ;D
I'm believe Baldi is serious. Why would this be a funny joke? No one here thinks this is funny. It's a nightmare all over again.
No I am serious. And it wasnt Dean Wormer
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I just heard he is good to go, "everyone is cleared"
The big problem with F'ing with people all the time is that no one knows when you are serious or not. ;D
I'm believe Baldi is serious. Why would this be a funny joke? No one here thinks this is funny. It's a nightmare all over again.
No I am serious. And it wasnt Dean Wormer
Good source Baldi?
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I just heard he is good to go, "everyone is cleared"
The big problem with F'ing with people all the time is that no one knows when you are serious or not. ;D
I'm believe Baldi is serious. Why would this be a funny joke? No one here thinks this is funny. It's a nightmare all over again.
No I am serious. And it wasnt Dean Wormer
I hope this isn't one of those charlie brown things where he goes to kick the football and Lucy fools him again and pulls it away
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I just heard he is good to go, "everyone is cleared"
The big problem with F'ing with people all the time is that no one knows when you are serious or not. ;D
I'm believe Baldi is serious. Why would this be a funny joke? No one here thinks this is funny. It's a nightmare all over again.
No I am serious. And it wasnt Dean Wormer
Good source Baldi?
Same 1 that told Lavin wouldnt be back last year. Meaning LAST year
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I just heard he is good to go, "everyone is cleared"
The big problem with F'ing with people all the time is that no one knows when you are serious or not. ;D
I'm believe Baldi is serious. Why would this be a funny joke? No one here thinks this is funny. It's a nightmare all over again.
No I am serious. And it wasnt Dean Wormer
Good source Baldi?
Same 1 that told Lavin wouldnt be back last year. Meaning LAST year
And that he was moving back to the West Coast or was that another poster?
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So there's nothing new here? OSNA is in the same status as it was when Obekpa was being recruited by dozens of schools.
The school has been around for a long time and is legit.
The schools that front for basketball factories should be shut down by the NCAA. I dont think OSNA comes close to being categorized with them. There must be a lot of schools with this NCAA designation.
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Did OSNA send anyone to a D1 school last year?
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I just heard he is good to go, "everyone is cleared"
The big problem with F'ing with people all the time is that no one knows when you are serious or not. ;D
I'm believe Baldi is serious. Why would this be a funny joke? No one here thinks this is funny. It's a nightmare all over again.
No I am serious. And it wasnt Dean Wormer
Good source Baldi?
Same 1 that told Lavin wouldnt be back last year. Meaning LAST year
And that he was moving back to the West Coast or was that another poster?
That was another rumor floating around
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So you are serious about your assertion?
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So you are serious about your assertion?
Yes, what I posted was word for word to my question "Is Obekpa eligible?"
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So you are serious about your assertion?
Yes, what I posted was word for word to my question "Is Obekpa eligible?"
Baldi I am going to hold you to this...LOL!
But I can tell you that from what I heard tonight I am not overly concerned about this.
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So you are serious about your assertion?
Yes, what I posted was word for word to my question "Is Obekpa eligible?"
Baldi I am going to hold you to this...LOL!
But I can tell you that from what I heard tonight I am not overly concerned about this.
So you agree?
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So you are serious about your assertion?
Yes, what I posted was word for word to my question "Is Obekpa eligible?"
Baldi I am going to hold you to this...LOL!
But I can tell you that from what I heard tonight I am not overly concerned about this.
So you agree?
I did not hear he was officially cleared, I did hear that no one from SJU or OSNA is concerned that he or Felix won't be cleared and that SJU is going on as if they will be or are.
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So you are serious about your assertion?
Yes, what I posted was word for word to my question "Is Obekpa eligible?"
Baldi I am going to hold you to this...LOL!
But I can tell you that from what I heard tonight I am not overly concerned about this.
So you agree?
I did not hear he was officially cleared, I did hear that no one from SJU or OSNA is concerned that he or Felix won't be cleared and that SJU is going on as if they will be or are.
Yes sir. Lets hope its legit
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Thanks Baldi sure hope you are right and if you are I'll give you a great big kiss! well maybe not but how about I hardy handshake? Sorry just going stir crazy because this is the worst time of the sports year. No football yet, no hockey and no basketball unless you count the summer leagues which are painful to watch and of course basebore. Actually like baseball but not as a mid-season stand alone sport. well at least the British Open is next week-my favorite tourney because of the unique conditions as compared to all the US courses. Very hilly, knee high rough, high winds and rain, and you get to hear some of the Americans bitch about it and par or slightly under can win. Also get to be frustrated by how my current fav golfer Phil Mikkleson plays. which reminds me of a joke I just heard-Man walks up to a women in a bar and asks her her name. She replies Carmen. He says that is a pretty name. she replies she gave it to herself by combining her two favorite things in life-cars and men. She then asks the man what is his name. He replies BJ T-tsengolf. Oh well time to go watch a movie. :)
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This should 100% be a non issue
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well at least the British Open is next week-my favorite tourney because of the unique conditions as compared to all the US courses. Very hilly, knee high rough, high winds and rain,
Totally agree. I love watching it on tv. I've been to the US Open before but I'd really love to watch that tourney in person sometime
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well at least the British Open is next week-my favorite tourney because of the unique conditions as compared to all the US courses. Very hilly, knee high rough, high winds and rain,
Totally agree. I love watching it on tv. I've been to the US Open before but I'd really love to watch that tourney in person sometime
Not to get too OT, but I completely agree. My favorite tournament of the year, and would love to go sometime. I think Tiger said this week that the British is his favorite major because the weather and links style courses make you play different shots. American courses are played through the air because you can't "run" approach shots on to the green, and he thinks that takes away from the game, when every approach needs to be a 65-degree wedge shot, and you can't bump and run it.
I completely agree with him. Very fun to watch. Plus the time difference, makes for great distractions at work on Thurs and Friday.
Back on topic: It's good to hear what Fordham's and Baldi's sources are saying. I trust them both.
Hopefully this does blow over and we can get back to arguing how high expectations should be, and whether Phil gets 22mpg or 31.
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All eight newcomers will be eligible in the fall at St. John's, according to coach Steve Lavin. The Red Storm will have five returning players for a full load of 13. Lavin, who is cancer free and ready to resume coaching after taking most of last season off from the sideline, said he has signed 18 players in 28 months on the job. The Red Storm lost two players to transfers and one to the NBA draft and two players didn't qualify during Lavin's two years. In response to the 18 he has signed, Lavin said, "I believe I signed 20 or so kids in seven years as head coach at UCLA. It was seven years worth of recruiting in 28 months (at St. John's). It is so rewarding to walk into the weight room or gym and see 13 of our kids. It's hard to articulate." Lavin is convinced with 11 underclassmen he will have one of the youngest teams in the country and in St. John's history.
This is according from ESPN.
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This should 100% be a non issue
Thank you!
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This should 100% be a non issue
Thank you!
But wait.
Does this mean we can't panic anymore?
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This should 100% be a non issue
Thank you!
But wait.
Does this mean we can't panic anymore?
We will find something else to worry about like;
"Saw Sanchez at Yankee game, seems to be only 5'11!"
"Phil Greene is now bench pressing a thousand pounds, but no longer wants to play BBall."
"Steve Lavin's wife has signed mega movie contract & moving to LA to live with Charlie Sheen!"
"Amir Garrett actually pitched scoreless inning & is not returning,"
"Baldi is leaving JJ to become the Dean of Academic Affairs at Iona, already rumored to be nailing every female employee under 70 in the Department!"
How would we exist as SJU fans without the rumor of the day?
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All eight newcomers will be eligible in the fall at St. John's, according to coach Steve Lavin. The Red Storm will have five returning players for a full load of 13. Lavin, who is cancer free and ready to resume coaching after taking most of last season off from the sideline, said he has signed 18 players in 28 months on the job. The Red Storm lost two players to transfers and one to the NBA draft and two players didn't qualify during Lavin's two years. In response to the 18 he has signed, Lavin said, "I believe I signed 20 or so kids in seven years as head coach at UCLA. It was seven years worth of recruiting in 28 months (at St. John's). It is so rewarding to walk into the weight room or gym and see 13 of our kids. It's hard to articulate." Lavin is convinced with 11 underclassmen he will have one of the youngest teams in the country and in St. John's history.
This is according from ESPN.
Hate to contradict Steve when he's on a PR roll, but....1) Baron Davis, 2) Schea Cotton, 3) Earl Watson, 4) Billy Knight, 5) Trevor Reed, 6) Rico Hines, 7) Todd Ramasar, 8) Kevin Daley, 9) Dan Gadzuric, 10) Jerome Moiso, 11) Matt Barnes, 12) Ray Young, 13) JaRon Rush, 14) Jason Kapono, 15) Spencer Gloger, 16) TJ Cummings, 17) Ryan Walcott, 18) Josiah Johnson, 19) Jon Crispin, 20) Ced Bozeman, 21) Dijon Thompson, 22) Andre Patterson, 24) John Hoffart, 25) Jason Flowers, 26) Ryan Hollins, 27) Mike Fey, 28) Brian Morrison, 29) Evan Burns. He also recruited/signed 30) Trevor Ariza, 31) Sean Phaler, tho was fired before he coached them....Oops, don't feel like renumbering the list, but I left out Moose Bailey in that first class - so 32 in 7 recruiting classes. Four of the signed players never played for UCLA - Cotton, Gloger, Burns & Phaler, and 6 others were transfers - Bailey, Daley, Crispin, Hoffart, Flowers & Morrison. But since for SJU he's counting Pelle (a recruit who never arrived) and Branch (a transfer) - they should all count in the UCLA totals. A tad more than "20 or so" ;) That's 10 NBA players, 7 NBDL players, and 3 Harlem Globetrotters...
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This should 100% be a non issue
Appreciate the news. I was waiting to hear from you and or Dave on the subject. I'm glad everyone can relax
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This should 100% be a non issue
Thank you!
But wait.
Does this mean we can't panic anymore?
We will find something else to worry about like;
"Saw Sanchez at Yankee game, seems to be only 5'11!"
"Phil Greene is now bench pressing a thousand pounds, but no longer wants to play BBall."
"Steve Lavin's wife has signed mega movie contract & moving to LA to live with Charlie Sheen!"
"Amir Garrett actually pitched scoreless inning & is not returning,"
"Baldi is leaving JJ to become the Dean of Academic Affairs at Iona, already rumored to be nailing every female employee under 70 in the Department!"
How would we exist as SJU fans without the rumor of the day?
Under 70? Never limit possibilities when it comes to Baldi.
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Did OSNA send anyone to a D1 school last year?
Daoudo Soumaoro committed to Texas Tech but ended up at Iowa Wester JC.
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Did OSNA send anyone to a D1 school last year?
Daoudo Soumaoro committed to Texas Tech but ended up at Iowa Wester JC.
Should be noted he just left Texas Tech on his own accord. Nothing with regards to eligibility.
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Did OSNA send anyone to a D1 school last year?
Daoudo Soumaoro committed to Texas Tech but ended up at Iowa Wester JC.
Should be noted he just left Texas Tech on his own accord. Nothing with regards to eligibility.
I didn't know why so didn't editorialize but he also wasn't really that highly rated, I think Scout had him as a 2 star. Likely realized he had some more game to learn before suiting up with the big boys.
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Did OSNA send anyone to a D1 school last year?
Daoudo Soumaoro committed to Texas Tech but ended up at Iowa Wester JC.
Should be noted he just left Texas Tech on his own accord. Nothing with regards to eligibility.
I didn't know why so didn't editorialize but he also wasn't really that highly rated, I think Scout had him as a 2 star. Likely realized he had some more game to learn before suiting up with the big boys.
Remember he officially visited STJ in April of his senior year. Nobody was ever able to quite pin point why. Was it backup plan to Pelle? Was it favor to OSNA and Jevon at the time or Obekpa moving forward? But yeah he landed at Tech practiced in the summer and left. I remember reading their boards and ppl who saw him with the team said he was a level below.
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I just heard he is good to go, "everyone is cleared"
Good work Marco.
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Did OSNA send anyone to a D1 school last year?
Daoudo Soumaoro committed to Texas Tech but ended up at Iowa Wester JC.
Should be noted he just left Texas Tech on his own accord. Nothing with regards to eligibility.
I didn't know why so didn't editorialize but he also wasn't really that highly rated, I think Scout had him as a 2 star. Likely realized he had some more game to learn before suiting up with the big boys.
Remember he officially visited STJ in April of his senior year. Nobody was ever able to quite pin point why. Was it backup plan to Pelle? Was it favor to OSNA and Jevon at the time or Obekpa moving forward? But yeah he landed at Tech practiced in the summer and left. I remember reading their boards and ppl who saw him with the team said he was a level below.
I totally forgot Jevon played one of his senior years there.
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Very encouraging to hear the positive news from multiple sources. Losing Obekpa and Balamou would be a real problem. Really looking forward to watching the team play this season with depth and a real center.
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Thanks Baldi!
Who is the real Center?
Sweet 16 Anyone? Seen Crazier things happen but in a down year in the Big East & the NCAA in general.
Magic Can Happen!
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Thanks Baldi!
Who is the real Center?
Sweet 16 Anyone? Seen Crazier things happen but in a down year in the Big East & the NCAA in general.
Magic Can Happen!
I think Obekpa is a real center. He plays like one on D which is what matters.
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Still have not seen anyone confirm that Chris Obekpa has started summer classes. Might sound like beating a dead horse but its important.
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Still have not seen anyone confirm that Chris Obekpa has started summer classes. Might sound like beating a dead horse but its important.
Your def beating a dead horse :)
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When someone can get an answer to the question, I will stop asking. After last summer I will believe things when I know they are confirmed.
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When someone can get an answer to the question, I will stop asking. After last summer I will believe things when I know they are confirmed.
You are entitled to your opinion and feelings. Nobody is disputing that.
I just can't sit here and worry about whether or not Chris Obekpa is in Summer classes. He can start classes in the fall like everyone else too if thats what happens.
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When someone can get an answer to the question, I will stop asking. After last summer I will believe things when I know they are confirmed.
Follow his Twitter page. He's sure talking about summer school a lot and conversing with Jakarr and Christian Jones.
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When someone can get an answer to the question, I will stop asking. After last summer I will believe things when I know they are confirmed.
Why aren't you asking about the other 11 players (not including Amir) including the other 7 newcomers?
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When someone can get an answer to the question, I will stop asking. After last summer I will believe things when I know they are confirmed.
Why aren't you asking about the other 11 players (not including Amir) including the other 7 newcomers?
...or at least ONE other newcomer. Since it's the school that's the alleged problem, not the student, doesn't Felix figure to be in the same situation?
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When someone can get an answer to the question, I will stop asking. After last summer I will believe things when I know they are confirmed.
Why aren't you asking about the other 11 players (not including Amir) including the other 7 newcomers?
Does Seton Hall have any frosh starting this year?
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When someone can get an answer to the question, I will stop asking. After last summer I will believe things when I know they are confirmed.
Why aren't you asking about the other 11 players (not including Amir) including the other 7 newcomers?
Does Seton Hall have any frosh starting this year?
Unbelievable right. He claims that it was "common knowledge" that Darrick Wood was 9 classes or credits short of qualifying then is demanding to know in post after post and thread after thread whether certain kids are in summer school as if he is entitled to this info or somehow he has become the board supervisor for SJU Men's Basketball academics. (Again go back and look at other threads and posts, his theme is constant whether criticizing the staff over the 3 ineligible players last year or discussing Wood's academics or starting threads on Summer School it is the same song everytime it is almost as if someone else is telling him to write things...LOL)
Meanwhile two weeks ago Fratto tweeted that of the 12 scholarship players signed (Christian Jones was not yet included) 11 were set to be in Summer School with the Amir playing Summer ball with the Reds organization. Then he hinted that a 12th player would be on his way as well, Christian Jones.
As Moose stated Obekpa and others are consistently tweeting about school and eating with each other.
What confirmation does he want anyway? Blood samples from their dorm rooms?
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When someone can get an answer to the question, I will stop asking. After last summer I will believe things when I know they are confirmed.
Why aren't you asking about the other 11 players (not including Amir) including the other 7 newcomers?
Does Seton Hall have any frosh starting this year?
Unbelievable right. He claims that it was "common knowledge" that Darrick Wood was 9 classes or credits short of qualifying then is demanding to know in post after post and thread after thread whether certain kids are in summer school as if he is entitled to this info or somehow he has become the board supervisor for SJU Men's Basketball academics. (Again go back and look at other threads and posts, his theme is constant whether criticizing the staff over the 3 ineligible players last year or discussing Wood's academics or starting threads on Summer School it is the same song everytime it is almost as if someone else is telling him to write things...LOL)
Meanwhile two weeks ago Fratto tweeted that of the 12 scholarship players signed (Christian Jones was not yet included) 11 were set to be in Summer School with the Amir playing Summer ball with the Reds organization. Then he hinted that a 12th player would be on his way as well, Christian Jones.
As Moose stated Obekpa and others are consistently tweeting about school and eating with each other.
What confirmation does he want anyway? Blood samples from their dorm rooms?
Definitely in class. Enough!!
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When someone can get an answer to the question, I will stop asking. After last summer I will believe things when I know they are confirmed.
Why aren't you asking about the other 11 players (not including Amir) including the other 7 newcomers?
Does Seton Hall have any frosh starting this year?
Unbelievable right. He claims that it was "common knowledge" that Darrick Wood was 9 classes or credits short of qualifying then is demanding to know in post after post and thread after thread whether certain kids are in summer school as if he is entitled to this info or somehow he has become the board supervisor for SJU Men's Basketball academics. (Again go back and look at other threads and posts, his theme is constant whether criticizing the staff over the 3 ineligible players last year or discussing Wood's academics or starting threads on Summer School it is the same song everytime it is almost as if someone else is telling him to write things...LOL)
Meanwhile two weeks ago Fratto tweeted that of the 12 scholarship players signed (Christian Jones was not yet included) 11 were set to be in Summer School with the Amir playing Summer ball with the Reds organization. Then he hinted that a 12th player would be on his way as well, Christian Jones.
As Moose stated Obekpa and others are consistently tweeting about school and eating with each other.
What confirmation does he want anyway? Blood samples from their dorm rooms?
Definitely in class. Enough!!
He is in school. Doubt that he would be there and not taking classes. Lets get ready for the season.
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How about we confirm that Carr's academics are straight? Let's speculate about that for 10 posts.
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Aquille Carr - his academics are a disaster. I would be astonished if he ever makes it to Seton Hall
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Also - for a lot of these kids, its not that they are failing classes in school. They are often just not taking the right course work to get through the Clearinghouse
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Also - for a lot of these kids, its not that they are failing classes in school. They are often just not taking the right course work to get through the Clearinghouse
Always found it interesting that the NCAA doesn't allow athletes to receive any BENEFITS not available to the general student population at a school, yet they aren't allowed allowed something as basic as the same entrance requirements as those same general population students. The same HS classes that allow a Poly Sci or Theater Arts major to qualify for admission and full participation at a school may NOT fulfill NCAA requirements at the same school for an athlete. I UNDERSTAND why the NCAA does it, but that doesn't make it seem any less hypocritical.
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News Flash: I saw Chris use the facilities on campus. I repeat facilities were used....
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News Flash: I saw Chris use the facilities on campus. I repeat facilities were used....
Urinal or stall?
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News Flash: I saw Chris use the facilities on campus. I repeat facilities were used....
Urinal or stall?
TMI
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Always found it interesting that the NCAA doesn't allow athletes to receive any BENEFITS not available to the general student population at a school, yet they aren't allowed allowed something as basic as the same entrance requirements as those same general population students. The same HS classes that allow a Poly Sci or Theater Arts major to qualify for admission and full participation at a school may NOT fulfill NCAA requirements at the same school for an athlete. I UNDERSTAND why the NCAA does it, but that doesn't make it seem any less hypocritical.
I think the average high school student is taking the core classes the NCAA requires if they are going through their natural progression fo high school course work. The problem with lot of the hoops players is that they take courses they they can coast through be eligible to play.
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Always found it interesting that the NCAA doesn't allow athletes to receive any BENEFITS not available to the general student population at a school, yet they aren't allowed allowed something as basic as the same entrance requirements as those same general population students. The same HS classes that allow a Poly Sci or Theater Arts major to qualify for admission and full participation at a school may NOT fulfill NCAA requirements at the same school for an athlete. I UNDERSTAND why the NCAA does it, but that doesn't make it seem any less hypocritical.
I think the average high school student is taking the core classes the NCAA requires if they are going through their natural progression fo high school course work. The problem with lot of the hoops players is that they take courses they they can coast through be eligible to play.
IMO there is no excuse for the students not taking the proper courses. Their guidance counselers and coaches should be doing their jobs and guiding them properly.
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IMO there is no excuse for the students not taking the proper courses. Their guidance counselers and coaches should be doing their jobs and guiding them properly.
Theirs parent(s) or guardians as well...
Kids today are being aggressively recruited from the day they start high school. If they are remotely serious about their own futures, they should be paying attention to this stuff and asking the questions...
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Why did CO get stuck with this subject matter on his thread? What happened to CO the player?
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Figured I'd post this here because I have always compared and expected similar results from Obekpa. This from Chad Ford-
http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/blog/_/name/nba_draft/id/8246678/summer-risers-fallers-2013-nba-draft-prospects (http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/blog/_/name/nba_draft/id/8246678/summer-risers-fallers-2013-nba-draft-prospects)
Gorgui Dieng, C, Louisville Cardinals
Dieng has improved his body over the summer and is finally coming into his own as the monster defensive presence scouts began to see last season. He is playing with more aggression and physicality. In a draft devoid of big men who are legitimate NBA players, Dieng has a chance to make a major impression this season. If he really takes his game to the next level, he too could end up sneaking into the mid-first round or late lottery.
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Figured I'd post this here because I have always compared and expected similar results from Obekpa. This from Chad Ford-
http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/blog/_/name/nba_draft/id/8246678/summer-risers-fallers-2013-nba-draft-prospects (http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/blog/_/name/nba_draft/id/8246678/summer-risers-fallers-2013-nba-draft-prospects)
Gorgui Dieng, C, Louisville Cardinals
Dieng has improved his body over the summer and is finally coming into his own as the monster defensive presence scouts began to see last season. He is playing with more aggression and physicality. In a draft devoid of big men who are legitimate NBA players, Dieng has a chance to make a major impression this season. If he really takes his game to the next level, he too could end up sneaking into the mid-first round or late lottery.
I also found interesting in the Ford write up how Nerlens Noel has looked lousy in camp. Definitely not the second coming of A Davis, and probably was overrated in the class rankings, as some on JJ have previously posted.
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Zagoria just tweeted that Chris Obekpa has been cleared by the NCAA Clearinghouse..!!!
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Zagoria just tweeted that Chris Obekpa has been cleared by the NCAA Clearinghouse..!!!
Are we sure he was in Summer School? :2funny:
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BTW-Just to follow up I know everyone is in panic mode because of what happened last year with JaKarr, Amir and Norvel but this really was never that big a deal or much of a question.
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Zagoria just tweeted that Chris Obekpa has been cleared by the NCAA Clearinghouse..!!!
If the earlier reports were right, the problem was more with OSNA, rather than the individual player. So I'm assuming this also means no doubts on Balamou as well?
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Zagoria just tweeted that Chris Obekpa has been cleared by the NCAA Clearinghouse..!!!
If the earlier reports were right, the problem was more with OSNA, rather than the individual player. So I'm assuming this also means no doubts on Balamou as well?
The Zags tweet mentions both so yes you are correct. I can assure you SJU would not have admitted Obekpa or Balamou to Summer School if they thought for one moment they would not be cleared.
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To be technical however, we were playing with fire. If in fact they were ineligible then because they were already enrolled at STJ they would never get to play for STJ again.
Goes to show how confident they were in everything being A-OK.
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To be technical however, we were playing with fire. If in fact they were ineligible then because they were already enrolled at STJ they would never get to play for STJ again.
Goes to show how confident they were in everything being A-OK.
Oh I think you know Moose that I know the rule better then anyone. And that was precisely my point.
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To be technical however, we were playing with fire. If in fact they were ineligible then because they were already enrolled at STJ they would never get to play for STJ again.
Goes to show how confident they were in everything being A-OK.
Oh I think you know Moose that I know the rule better then anyone. And that was precisely my point.
I was laying it out pretty blunt for the rest of the board.
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Happy guy!
“@obekpa12: Me and my boy Felix have been academically cleared by the Ncaa eligibility center!”
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Does this mean there are still questions?
"The news was confirmed by a source at St. John’s, who expects all of the team’s incoming players to be cleared."
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Does this mean there are still questions?
"The news was confirmed by a source at St. John’s, who expects all of the team’s incoming players to be cleared."
Its been awhile since we all panicked.
Lets panic.
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Does this mean there are still questions?
"The news was confirmed by a source at St. John’s, who expects all of the team’s incoming players to be cleared."
Its been awhile since we all panicked.
Lets panic.
Some folks on our esteemed board would have been throwing women and children overboard on Titanic to get choice seat on lifeboat!
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Everyone eligible, exceept for Wood of course
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After last year's debacle with eligibilty, I doubt the school is going to make blanket statements about players eligibilty.
That being said, I have not heard any rumblings of any of the other players having any issues.
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yeah, it looks good, no question, but we should still panic a bit because you know, it is good to be ahead of the curve, and something could happen. It happens all the time.
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yeah, it looks good, no question, but we should still panic a bit because you know, it is good to be ahead of the curve, and something could happen. It happens all the time.
What could go wrong at St.John's?
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Exactly!
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Everyone eligible, exceept for Wood of course
They obviously moved on by giving his ship to Christian Jones. I had heard that he wasn't being counted on as a 2012 anyway but I do not think he can be a 2013 either and will have to do 2 years in JuCo.
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Chris FWIW is listed. These off season polls spur conversation and keep folks employed, but silly!
“@jeffborzello: Our next Critical Coaches -- Which players had the dirtiest recruitments over the last 10 years? Coaches tell us: http://t.co/4j6lz5O3 (http://t.co/4j6lz5O3)”
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Jackarr and Pelle listed too:
Also received votes: DeMarcus Cousins, DeAndre Jordan, Anthony Randolph, Enes Kanter, Josh Selby, Lance Stephenson, Khem Birch, Rodney Hood, Norvel Pelle, Terrence Jennings, J'Mison Morgan, Jordan Goodman, JaKarr Sampson, Jevon Thomas
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Several players SJU was involved with are on that list...
Anderson, Obekpa, Thomas, Sampson, Stephenson..
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Chris FWIW is listed. These off season polls spur conversation and keep folks employed, but silly!
“@jeffborzello: Our next Critical Coaches -- Which players had the dirtiest recruitments over the last 10 years? Coaches tell us: http://t.co/4j6lz5O3 (http://t.co/4j6lz5O3)”
LOVE Borzello shooting himself in the foot. In his comments on Shabazz he "reports" that it was a done deal to UCLA and "everyone in the know" knew it for months. The week before Shabazz declared, guess which outstanding CBS "journalist" called "Shabazz to Kentucky"? :)
Last couple of articles, reads like "CBS Sports" has merged with the National Enquiror"
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Shocked that these Providence Mensa members would have a SJU rip ready!
“@ScoutProvidence: Forums: Dirtiest Recruitment http://t.co/hOfJDC7p (http://t.co/hOfJDC7p) #friars”
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Can a lawyer chime in here?
Isnt there something wrong with articles like this? Libel? Slander? No?
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i love this user's handle:
BipolarFriar
;D
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i love this user's handle:
BipolarFriar
;D
I just love how they think they are squeaky clean yet they were after same targets.
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Can a lawyer chime in here?
Isnt there something wrong with articles like this? Libel? Slander? No?
I am not a lawyer but he was just reporting the results of questions asked to various coaches during the open period.
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Guys stay off the other sites
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Shocked that these Providence Mensa members would have a SJU rip ready!
“@ScoutProvidence: Forums: Dirtiest Recruitment http://t.co/hOfJDC7p (http://t.co/hOfJDC7p) #friars”
Are you giving the Cincinnati brain trust a pass? Soon as I saw Obekpa knew it had to be Providence and CincInnati crying in there beer!
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I am not a lawyer but he was just reporting the results of questions asked to various coaches during the open period.
But hes writing the story. He's asking the questions. Just made me wonder I mean both from the kids standpoint and from a coaches standpoint. Being accused of something is dicey.
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question of Public Figure and reporting the opinions of others.
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question of Public Figure and reporting the opinions of others.
But he conducted the poll. Its kind of like lighting the match and handing it to someone else who drops it, no?
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Briefly, here's the baics... libel is written and slander is spoken.
Here the players likely don't have a case for two reasons. One, truth is an absolute defense to libel. Not every detail in the article has to be true, just the substance of it.
Second, there is a heightened barrier for "public figures".... a label courts have applied to lots of different plaintiffs, and an area where a concrete definition has largely been elusive. Since the 60's the law requires that a public figure prove that the defendant knew what he was saying was false, or very-likely false. This differs from ordinary persons who just need to show you lied about them, it was published (made public to others), and you suffered damages. Public figures need to show the defendant knew what he was saying wasn't true. And you don't need to be the President or Charlie Sheen to qualify as a public figure, courts have recognized a limited-purpose public figure.
Two things to consider in determining if the player is a public figure for this limited purpose; 1) Did they interject themselves into a controversy? If they commented on their recruiting process, or potential violations, to the press, then that is one factor a court would consider. 2) Another factor to weigh is whether their position of prominence (even just as a star HS athlete) gives them a high degree of access to the media, and an ability to counter criticisms that ordinary persons probably cannot.
That would be the crux of any legal argument; if the the gist of the article is not "true", and if the player is a public figure and therefore needs to prove Borzello knew he was lieing.
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Let's just agree the article is unseemly and leave it at that.
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Chris short interview with Zach B, optimistic about season;
http://www.nypost.com/p/blogs/collegesports/st_john_recruit_obekpa_we_can_surprise_pZqrXhizVgDgibuWRgeSFM (http://www.nypost.com/p/blogs/collegesports/st_john_recruit_obekpa_we_can_surprise_pZqrXhizVgDgibuWRgeSFM)
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Briefly, here's the baics... libel is written and slander is spoken.
Not exactly. Libel is fixed, slander is transitory. Skywritten defamation is slander. A youtube video of spoken defamation is libel.
Here the players likely don't have a case for two reasons. One, truth is an absolute defense to libel. Not every detail in the article has to be true, just the substance of it.
Second, there is a heightened barrier for "public figures".... a label courts have applied to lots of different plaintiffs, and an area where a concrete definition has largely been elusive. Since the 60's the law requires that a public figure prove that the defendant knew what he was saying was false, or very-likely false. This differs from ordinary persons who just need to show you lied about them, it was published (made public to others), and you suffered damages. Public figures need to show the defendant knew what he was saying wasn't true. And you don't need to be the President or Charlie Sheen to qualify as a public figure, courts have recognized a limited-purpose public figure.
Two things to consider in determining if the player is a public figure for this limited purpose; 1) Did they interject themselves into a controversy? If they commented on their recruiting process, or potential violations, to the press, then that is one factor a court would consider. 2) Another factor to weigh is whether their position of prominence (even just as a star HS athlete) gives them a high degree of access to the media, and an ability to counter criticisms that ordinary persons probably cannot.
That would be the crux of any legal argument; if the the gist of the article is not "true", and if the player is a public figure and therefore needs to prove Borzello knew he was lieing.
All well and good, but the reason there's no there here is because defamation requires a false statement of fact. An opinion poll is, which is what you're talking about here - it asks which is "perceived" to be dirtiest - is, wait for it: opinion. Opinion is protected speech always. If a coach said that Player X was paid to sign with University Y that would be libel, if it weren't true.
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All well and good, but the reason there's no there here is because defamation requires a false statement of fact. An opinion poll is, which is what you're talking about here - it asks which is "perceived" to be dirtiest - is, wait for it: opinion. Opinion is protected speech always. If a coach said that Player X was paid to sign with University Y that would be libel, if it weren't true.
I think it's obvious I was simplifying the medium distinctions; and in this instance there is no meaningful difference between broadcast and written. But thank you for pointing that out.
Second, I have no interest in going back and forth on this topic - but you're factually incorrect about opinion speech being protected. Milkovich v Lorain explicitly held their is no blanket protection for opinion statements from a defamation suit. (Overturned Getz) The comment just needs to be provably untrue. Writing that you "think" person X is a liar and cheat, is just a libelous as if you published it as fact in the farmers' almanac.
And liability extends to those who republish information, not just the original source of the comments.
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All well and good, but the reason there's no there here is because defamation requires a false statement of fact. An opinion poll is, which is what you're talking about here - it asks which is "perceived" to be dirtiest - is, wait for it: opinion. Opinion is protected speech always. If a coach said that Player X was paid to sign with University Y that would be libel, if it weren't true.
I think it's obvious I was simplifying the medium distinctions; and in this instance there is no meaningful difference between broadcast and written. But thank you for pointing that out.
Second, I have no interest in going back and forth on this topic - but you're factually incorrect about opinion speech being protected. Milkovich v Lorain explicitly held their is no blanket protection for opinion statements from a defamation suit. (Overturned Getz) The comment just needs to be provably untrue. Writing that you "think" person X is a liar and cheat, is just a libelous as if you published it as fact in the farmers' almanac.
Opinion is always protected because opinion can't be proven false, and the court said as much: "statements that cannot reasonably be interpreted as stating actual facts about an individual are constitutionally protected." Yes, the court declined to create "an additional separate constitutional privilege for opinion," that reasonably implies knowledge of a fact that's false and defamatory. No, this is new: merely writing that "you think" someone is X has never negated liability if X is a defamatory false fact.
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All well and good, but the reason there's no there here is because defamation requires a false statement of fact. An opinion poll is, which is what you're talking about here - it asks which is "perceived" to be dirtiest - is, wait for it: opinion. Opinion is protected speech always. If a coach said that Player X was paid to sign with University Y that would be libel, if it weren't true.
I think it's obvious I was simplifying the medium distinctions; and in this instance there is no meaningful difference between broadcast and written. But thank you for pointing that out.
Second, I have no interest in going back and forth on this topic - but you're factually incorrect about opinion speech being protected. Milkovich v Lorain explicitly held their is no blanket protection for opinion statements from a defamation suit. (Overturned Getz) The comment just needs to be provably untrue. Writing that you "think" person X is a liar and cheat, is just a libelous as if you published it as fact in the farmers' almanac.
Opinion is always protected because opinion can't be proven false, and the court said as much: "statements that cannot reasonably be interpreted as stating actual facts about an individual are constitutionally protected." Yes, the court declined to create "an additional separate constitutional privilege for opinion," that reasonably implies knowledge of a fact that's false and defamatory. No, this is new: merely writing that "you think" someone is X has never negated liability if X is a defamatory false fact.
thanks to all for the discouse on libel/ slander/etc. As with any "opinion poll", the answers can be skewed by how the questions are phrased which allows political pollsters to skew things in the favor of the candidate that pays them. I am sure this poll was skewed by composition/predujices of the respondents which we do not know. I think we would have seen significantly different results if the poll was conducted exclusively on Kentucky's campus. doing polls over the internet "hide" the true background of respondents as one conducted by NYV councilman Lander where responders had to tell where they live and based on those responses he forced through a bicycle lane on the outside of Prospect Park which has cost citizens of NYC over $1.5M when changes inside Prospect Park would have cost under $100K.
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We have the best shot blocker in the country.... By far
Chris Obekpa Of St John's Red Storm - The Next Dikembe Mutombo & Best Shot Blocker In The Nation (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6yTtJ0-oYE#ws)
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Consistently keeps 80-90% of his blocks in play. I've seen plenty of his games and that always stands out to me. He is capable of changing games. One thing of note, although he is not a great leaper his agility his off the charts...great hips.
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Consistently keeps 80-90% of his blocks in play. I've seen plenty of his games and that always stands out to me. He is capable of changing games. One thing of note, although he is not a great leaper his agility his off the charts...great hips.
He's got solid vertical ability but isn't Darius Miles at his height. That said, most of basketball's best shotblockers in history weren't the best leapers in the world. Timing and feel is what makes a shot blocker. Roman was a great rebounder because of positioning, not his vertical. We have a fantastic one in Obekpa. People will know his name soon.
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Consistently keeps 80-90% of his blocks in play. I've seen plenty of his games and that always stands out to me. He is capable of changing games. One thing of note, although he is not a great leaper his agility his off the charts...great hips.
He's got solid vertical ability but isn't Darius Miles at his height. That said, most of basketball's best shotblockers in history weren't the best leapers in the world. Timing and feel is what makes a shot blocker. Roman was a great rebounder because of positioning, not his vertical. We have a fantastic one in Obekpa. People will know his name soon.
We're 5 games into Chris Obekpa's career. At his current pace, he figures to become St. Johns #10 all time career shot blocker by game #17 (Ron Artest with 80 is currently #10). Depending on how many post season games we play, at his current pace, he could become the #1 all time CAREER shot blocker in his Freshman season (Werdann is #1 with 188). He's on pace to break the existing single season record in game 16 this season (Walter Berry's 76). Incredible.
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Obekpa will be a solid 4 year player.
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Obekpa will be a solid 4 year player.
Nah. No way he sees Senior year. That's all I can confidently say.
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Obekpa will be a solid 4 year player.
Nah. No way he sees Senior year. That's all I can confidently say.
NBA written all over him IMO.
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Obekpa will be a solid 4 year player.
Nah. No way he sees Senior year. That's all I can confidently say.
NBA written all over him IMO.
Yes just a question of when.
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Obekpa will be a solid 4 year player.
Nah. No way he sees Senior year. That's all I can confidently say.
NBA written all over him IMO.
Yes just a question of when.
Def league bound, serge ibaka 2.0
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"great hips."
^^ this got a huge chuckle out of me.
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Obekpa will be a solid 4 year player.
Nah. No way he sees Senior year. That's all I can confidently say.
There's a lot of NBA talent here for a team that struggled to beat Holy Cross.
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Obekpa will be a solid 4 year player.
Nah. No way he sees Senior year. That's all I can confidently say.
There's a lot of NBA talent here for a team that struggled to beat Holy Cross.
You know one has nothing to do with the other, right?
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Obekpa will be a solid 4 year player.
Nah. No way he sees Senior year. That's all I can confidently say.
There's a lot of NBA talent here for a team that struggled to beat Holy Cross.
Sampson and Obekpa have NBA potential. It doesn't mean a team of underclassmen will excel however.
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Sampson could be one of these kids that really enjoys playing college ball. I could see it. He has that enthusiasm. That said, I'd be ecstatic if he was here as a JR.
Obekpa I hope stays for 3. He would be so much more polished offensively and ready. Who knows.
We should just enjoy them while they are here.
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http://www.nbadraft.net/2014mock_draft (http://www.nbadraft.net/2014mock_draft)
In a recent mock draft for 2014 he's projected to go in the 1st round and D' Lo is projected at #33 (2nd Round)
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Obekpa will be here 2 years if not 3. He's Gorgiu Dieng #2 but even a better natural shot blocker IMO. Obekpa needs strength and to develop some offense. I think he'll end up possibly being the best center SJU has ever had if he stays in school 3 years. Certainly not close to NBA ready yet, but I don't see him staying til senior season.
I've always said Obekpa was the best freshman shot locker in the country and it's becoming obvious quickly. I think he leads the Big East right now.
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Need a full season against elite D1 teams to gauge.
Cause right now, he aint goin anywhere. And thats no disrespct to his talents. Just reality.
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He's an incredible shot blocker but he is not a well-rounded post defender yet. He is not a good rebounder for his size/position. Two years of physical maturation (Ibaka might have 50 lbs of muscle on him) and experience against NBA-sized guys will go a long way.
A back to the basket game on offense wouldn't hurt his pro prospects, either.
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Need a full season against elite D1 teams to gauge.
Cause right now, he aint goin anywhere. And thats no disrespct to his talents. Just reality.
Agree. Unless they are also exceptional OFFENSIVE players as well, shot blockers tend to stay in college a while.
An interesting player to watch in the D-League will be Anthony Stover - the UCLA player dropped from the team for academics this fall. Tho playing only 9 minutes a game as a redshirt soph last season, the 6'10 Stover was the Pac 12's #4 shot blocker (39). Stover has won a roster spot with the LA D-Fenders of the D-League in open tryouts. Like Obekpa, he's percieved as a "one-trick pony"...if that "trick" translates into D-league success, could be an indicator for players like Chris.
But it has always seemed to me that if you have a kid who's an exceptional shot blocker, that offensive potential SHOULD be there. The timing, the hand-eye coordination, the footwork, the athleticism needed to BE an elite shot blocker seems like it SHOULD easily translate to the offensive side...
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Agree Cr that CO has fine potential offensively. He has decent shooting form, good hands, passes well, does not force things and appears to assimilate things quickly. Like fine wine, he just needs some maturation.
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Both Obekpa and Sampson should even mention the NBA. It's straight up insane at this point.
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Both Obekpa and Sampson should even mention the NBA. It's straight up insane at this point.
I agree. I really do. Trouble is, the NBA IS freaking insane. Tony Wroten and Fab Melo are first round picks? Terrence Ross is a LOTTERY pick?
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Both Obekpa and Sampson should even mention the NBA. It's straight up insane at this point.
I agree. I really do. Trouble is, the NBA IS freaking insane. Tony Wroten and Fab Melo are first round picks? Terrence Ross is a LOTTERY pick?
But the flip side is getting kids to the NBA is a recruiting advantage.
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Both Obekpa and Sampson should even mention the NBA. It's straight up insane at this point.
I agree. I really do. Trouble is, the NBA IS freaking insane. Tony Wroten and Fab Melo are first round picks? Terrence Ross is a LOTTERY pick?
But the flip side is getting kids to the NBA is a recruiting advantage.
Man, Moose, you are FAST! :)
I agree as well. It is insane these kids are GETTING to the NBA after 6 pt 4 reb seasons (Drummond was lotto?) - but it is happening. And it is the exposure of those jumps that breeds the next round of signings at the college level.
I just REALLY miss the days when you had to actually ACCOMPLISH something to EARN a scholarship, and then accomplish MORE to GET an NBA look. There are Nerlens Noels out there who are getting 12 pts 8 rebs in high school, leading there teams to NOTHING, getting 10 pts 6 rebs in college, who are likely going to be top 3 NBA picks. Potential, yes. Accomplishment? Zilch.
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Both Obekpa and Sampson should even mention the NBA. It's straight up insane at this point.
True, but i'm pretty sure you were saying the same thing about Harkless after 4-5 games last season.
It's also just reality. Most non athletes will get their degree in 4 years, and if they are lucky, get a job. With that, it will still take them 5-10 years to make what Harkless and these other one and done's will make in 1 year.
It is reality. It's the only reason a lot of these kids are in college. Prep for the NBA. They will jump at the first chance.
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http://www.nbadraft.net/2014mock_draft (http://www.nbadraft.net/2014mock_draft)
In a recent mock draft for 2014 he's projected to go in the 1st round and D' Lo is projected at #33 (2nd Round)
No way Obekpa lasts more than 3 years. He will be a first rounder. This mock draft is a joke because BJ Young is ten times the prospect that Harrison is. I don't think I can name ten players in the country I want over BJ Young. Props to them for bein the dirt I've seen to include Obepka. Two years in a row we get guys noticed too early because of an ineligible player. Sanchez would have hidden Obekpa for at least a lottie while.
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Both Obekpa and Sampson should even mention the NBA. It's straight up insane at this point.
Except the NBA draft is all about potential and both ooze it.
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http://www.nbadraft.net/2014mock_draft (http://www.nbadraft.net/2014mock_draft)
In a recent mock draft for 2014 he's projected to go in the 1st round and D' Lo is projected at #33 (2nd Round)
No way Obekpa lasts more than 3 years. He will be a first rounder. This mock draft is a joke because BJ Young is ten times the prospect that Harrison is. I don't think I can name ten players in the country I want over BJ Young. Props to them for bein the dirt I've seen to include Obepka. Two years in a row we get guys noticed too early because of an ineligible player. Sanchez would have hidden Obekpa for at least a lottie while.
Joke? Yeah. Lazy, p!ss poor research and prognosication. That mock has 26 college seniors being selected. There haven't been as many as 20 picked in the draft in the last half-decade. That's not likely to change over the next 2 years.
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“@STJ_Basketball: In today's official @Basketball_NCAA statistical rankings, #stjbb #GAMECHANGER Chris Obekpa is T-3rd nationally with 4.5 blocks per game.”
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“@STJ_Basketball: In today's official @Basketball_NCAA statistical rankings, #stjbb #GAMECHANGER Chris Obekpa is T-3rd nationally with 4.5 blocks per game.”
Since I think Chris is a lock to obliterate the St. Johns single season blocks record (76), and a likely challenger to lead the nation in blocks, I want to mention this up front...
Does anyone else get the feeling he's getting shortchanged by official scorers so far this year? Just because the ball has BARELY left the shooters hand when Chris knocks it away doens't make that any less of a block than one of his sky to the moon, slap it at the top of it's arc highlight blocks. In watching replays, I've got him with 6 more blocks than he's officially credited with, and 2 more that "could" be called his (there've been two "simultaneos blocks" that have been credited to the other player - once Jakarr, once Amir.
May not seem like a big deal, but with those additional 6, Chris leads the nation at 5.5 a game (FWIW, he DOES lead D-1 in TOTAL blocks with just his credited 27. Arizona State's 7'2 center leads D-1 at 5.2 a game - 26 blocks in only 5 games)...
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Agree, had same observation.
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4h
Jonathan Wasserman ? @NBADraftWass
St. John's freshman Chris Obekpa is blocking 4.5 shots in 23 minutes. Basically a block every 5 min. Pretty outrageous.
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4h
Jonathan Wasserman ? @NBADraftWass
St. John's freshman Chris Obekpa is blocking 4.5 shots in 23 minutes. Basically a block every 5 min. Pretty outrageous.
If anyone has the time and patience (and access to replays of our games), it would be GREAT if they could compile a stat for us that isn't officially kept. How many of Obekbpa's blocks end up with POSSESSION for the good-guys? Most shot blocks either go out of bounds, or are contolled by the offensive team. Chris's blocks truly go against the norm (seemingly) the majority of the time. It isn't listed as such in the stats, because a shot-block with possesion by the defensive team is listed as simply a missed shot for the offensive team, but in reality it's as much a "forced turnover" as a steal.....
Also curious if the official scorers have been crediting our players with REBOUNDS on those recovered blocks - for every shot attempt there HAS to be a basket or a rebound. Looking at our "official stats", it appears we're credited with an inordinant number of "team rebounds" Curious if the numbers match up!
Yes, sometimes I get caught up in the esoterica of college hoops :)
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“@JournalisTim: Obekpa, Oblockpa - energizing the #STJbb defense #Oblockpa http://t.co/Uy5ujuLM (http://t.co/Uy5ujuLM)”
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4h
Jonathan Wasserman ? @NBADraftWass
St. John's freshman Chris Obekpa is blocking 4.5 shots in 23 minutes. Basically a block every 5 min. Pretty outrageous.
If anyone has the time and patience (and access to replays of our games), it would be GREAT if they could compile a stat for us that isn't officially kept. How many of Obekbpa's blocks end up with POSSESSION for the good-guys? Most shot blocks either go out of bounds, or are contolled by the offensive team. Chris's blocks truly go against the norm (seemingly) the majority of the time. It isn't listed as such in the stats, because a shot-block with possesion by the defensive team is listed as simply a missed shot for the offensive team, but in reality it's as much a "forced turnover" as a steal.....
Also curious if the official scorers have been crediting our players with REBOUNDS on those recovered blocks - for every shot attempt there HAS to be a basket or a rebound. Looking at our "official stats", it appears we're credited with an inordinant number of "team rebounds" Curious if the numbers match up!
Yes, sometimes I get caught up in the esoterica of college hoops :)
couldn't agree more cr. nothing irritates me more than somebody swatting the ball into the seats. totally unnecessary, and a wasted opportunity to get the ball. and most coaches ignore that. but obekpa, as well as the other guys on the team, do it right. they keep the ball in play more times than not, resulting in a turnover. i have a feeling that that is the result of good coaching.
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Chris best shot blocker;
“@JeffEisenberg: UNLV's Anthony Bennett emerged as early favorite for freshman of the year Sunday. Which other freshmen have stood out? http://t.co/MwEPrjXJ (http://t.co/MwEPrjXJ)”
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Chris best shot blocker;
“@JeffEisenberg: UNLV's Anthony Bennett emerged as early favorite for freshman of the year Sunday. Which other freshmen have stood out? http://t.co/MwEPrjXJ (http://t.co/MwEPrjXJ)”
"Biggest disappointment: Kyle Anderson, G/F, UCLA"
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A little recognition from ESPN re: players of week. CO is in bench section.
This week's starting five
The Starters
Mark Lyons (Arizona): The point guard scored the game-winning layup with 7.1 seconds remaining in Arizona's 65-64 victory over No. 5 Florida on Saturday night in Tucson. He drove past Patric Young for the decisive basket, finishing with 14 points and two assists.
Peyton Siva (Louisville): The No. 6 Cardinals were down by 16 points in the first half against Memphis on Saturday. But Siva led the charge in the second half, as the Cardinals scored a critical 87-78 road win against their rivals. Siva finished with 19 points, seven assists, four rebounds and one block.
Rotnei Clarke (Butler): Before Saturday's 88-86 win over Indiana in Indianapolis, Butler had never beaten a No. 1 team. The Bulldogs guard finished with 19 points (7-for-19) and two assists in one of the program's most significant victories.
Kelly Olynyk (Gonzaga): The 7-footer led the Zags to a 68-52 win over Kansas State on Saturday in Seattle. The junior scored 20 points (10-for-13) and grabbed three rebounds, and he did it in just 19 minutes of action.
Doug McDermott (Creighton): The 6-8 forward for the No. 16 Bluejays was a monster in Saturday's 74-64 win at Cal. He scored 34 points and grabbed nine rebounds. He also went 10-for-10 from the free throw line and 4-for-7 from the 3-point line.
The Bench
Anthony Drmic (Boise State): 34 points (6-for-10), one steal and a block in an 89-70 win over LSU on Friday.
Matthew Dellavedova (Saint Mary's): 31 points, six rebounds and eight assists in a 120-67 win over Jackson St. on Tuesday.
Jonathon Williams (Wagner): 33 points, 17 rebounds and three steals in a 77-65 overtime win over Coppin State on Saturday.
Chris Obekpa (St. John's): Four points, seven rebounds, five assists and nine blocks in a 77-60 win over St. Francis (NY) on Saturday.
Brandon Davies (BYU): 33 points, eight rebounds and a block in a 78-68 win at Weber State on Saturday.
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CO is the only one there not for his offensive output. He totally dominates a game on the defensive end. One guy on St. Francis threw a layup over the backboard trying to avoid the CO block. He is having a similar impact to Anthony Davis on the defensive end. If ge develops more on offense and rebounding, he will be a lottery pick next year.
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Let's hope all these rookies being sent to the D league keep him in queens for
At least 3 seasons 8)
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Problem is they are being paid $1million to learn in the D League vs. being broke in college.
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CO is the only one there not for his offensive output. He totally dominates a game on the defensive end. One guy on St. Francis threw a layup over the backboard trying to avoid the CO block. He is having a similar impact to Anthony Davis on the defensive end. If ge develops more on offense and rebounding, he will be a lottery pick next year.
Again, just a reminder that D-1's all time leading shot blocker, 6'9 forward Jarvis Varnado, who led the NCAA D-1 in blocks as a Soph, Junior, and Senior at Miss. State, was only a mid-2nd round pick after 4 years of SEC Basketball - and he was a career double digit scorer, with a 59% career FG% - and a double digit rebounder as a senior (8 as a soph, 9 as a jr, 11 as a Sr). Varnado hasn't made the NBA - he's in the D-Leauge, where he's putting up 14 pts, 9 rebs and 4.4 blocks....
The NBA premium for lotto picks is STILL offensive potential, not defensive.
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Hence the caveat in my last sentence. I thoroughly agree that the offensive game is crucial. His jumper is a bit better that I expected and, hopefully, will continue to improve. Better offensive skills in the low post have to be developed.
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Hence the caveat in my last sentence. I thoroughly agree that the offensive game is crucial. His jumper is a bit better that I expected and, hopefully, will continue to improve. Better offensive skills in the low post have to be developed.
Of course, things could change. The impact Serge Ibaka had (and is having) for Oklahoma City could well translate into a closer look at players like Vanardo (and eventually Obekpa) - these things can be cyclical. If the league's "flavor of the month" should become agressive shotblockers at the forward spots - especially if someone comes up with a campaign marrying the names IBAKA and OBEKPA - it could get interesting.... :)
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Jon Rothstein today;
3. I’D PAY TO WATCH CHRIS OBEKPA PLAY
And while St. John’s may be a work in progress this season, they’re never going to be out of a game because of this 6-9 freshman shot blocker. Obekpa has already blocked five or more shots in six separate games this season, and is second in the nation behind Kansas’ Jeff Withey (5.6 BPG) in average shots blocked per game. Obekpa (5.3 BPG), D’Angelo Harrison, and JaKarr Sampson give the Red Storm a triumvirate that can make them competitive in the Big East. The question now is, can they become consistent?
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Quite an honor for Chris, Freshman of Week!
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3. Texas ranks 10th nationally as a team with 69 blocks on the season. Chris Obekpa from St. John’s has 58 blocks alone.
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“@STJ_Legends: Coach Carnesecca on @obekpa12: "He blocks everything but the Lincoln Tunnel. We've never had a guy like him in our history." #stjbb”
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As lousy as we are playing a positive is in order;
“@STJ_Basketball: Official @ncaastats released this AM. @obekpa12 leads the nation in blocks at 5.33 per game. As a team, #stjbb is No. 1 in America at 9.3!”
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As lousy as we are playing a positive is in order;
“@STJ_Basketball: Official @ncaastats released this AM. @obekpa12 leads the nation in blocks at 5.33 per game. As a team, #stjbb is No. 1 in America at 9.3!”
Yaay, how are we doin' when it comes to rebound margin and easy second and third chance putbacks? ???
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Nice piece on Chris by Lenn;
http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/college/basketball/around_the_block_eC6Sbot0J4d2HSZZEIl8MJ/0 (http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/college/basketball/around_the_block_eC6Sbot0J4d2HSZZEIl8MJ/0)
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Celtics just sign Varnado. I can see CO being a late first rd pick on a weak draft
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Kid plays 38 minutes, only has 2 fouls, has 2 assists, has 9 rebounds, blocks 3 shots (probably more) and scores six points.
Thinking back to Moose's commentary after watching him at Portchester tourney, he was on the money with Chris' game & potential. IMO, his progress has been nothing short of amazing. Despite a few flaws, his sense of how the game should be played is so surprising. Seems like a very decent and coachable young man. Great get!
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Kid plays 38 minutes, only has 2 fouls, has 2 assists, has 9 rebounds, blocks 3 shots (probably more) and scores six points.
Thinking back to Moose's commentary after watching him at Portchester tourney, he was on the money with Chris' game & potential. IMO, his progress has been nothing short of amazing. Despite a few flaws, his sense of how the game should be played is so surprising. Seems like a very decent and coachable young man. Great get!
I think you should change your name to Mooseman :)
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Kid plays 38 minutes, only has 2 fouls, has 2 assists, has 9 rebounds, blocks 3 shots (probably more) and scores six points.
Thinking back to Moose's commentary after watching him at Portchester tourney, he was on the money with Chris' game & potential. IMO, his progress has been nothing short of amazing. Despite a few flaws, his sense of how the game should be played is so surprising. Seems like a very decent and coachable young man. Great get!
I think you should change your name to Mooseman :)
Ha! In process!
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Kid plays 38 minutes, only has 2 fouls, has 2 assists, has 9 rebounds, blocks 3 shots (probably more) and scores six points.
Thinking back to Moose's commentary after watching him at Portchester tourney, he was on the money with Chris' game & potential. IMO, his progress has been nothing short of amazing. Despite a few flaws, his sense of how the game should be played is so surprising. Seems like a very decent and coachable young man. Great get!
How about that block yesterday where the guy kept pumpfaking, and Chris stayed grounded, and when he finally goes up Chris is right there to send it back. His timing might be the best I've ever seen.
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Kid plays 38 minutes, only has 2 fouls, has 2 assists, has 9 rebounds, blocks 3 shots (probably more) and scores six points.
Thinking back to Moose's commentary after watching him at Portchester tourney, he was on the money with Chris' game & potential. IMO, his progress has been nothing short of amazing. Despite a few flaws, his sense of how the game should be played is so surprising. Seems like a very decent and coachable young man. Great get!
I think you should change your name to Mooseman :)
Don't be jealous.
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Kid plays 38 minutes, only has 2 fouls, has 2 assists, has 9 rebounds, blocks 3 shots (probably more) and scores six points.
Thinking back to Moose's commentary after watching him at Portchester tourney, he was on the money with Chris' game & potential. IMO, his progress has been nothing short of amazing. Despite a few flaws, his sense of how the game should be played is so surprising. Seems like a very decent and coachable young man. Great get!
I think you should change your name to Mooseman :)
Don't be jealous.
Man loves you. I'm happy for you, not jealous.
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Kid plays 38 minutes, only has 2 fouls, has 2 assists, has 9 rebounds, blocks 3 shots (probably more) and scores six points.
Thinking back to Moose's commentary after watching him at Portchester tourney, he was on the money with Chris' game & potential. IMO, his progress has been nothing short of amazing. Despite a few flaws, his sense of how the game should be played is so surprising. Seems like a very decent and coachable young man. Great get!
I think you should change your name to Mooseman :)
Don't be jealous.
Man loves you. I'm happy for you, not jealous.
Mike, send money, not a gift!
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Adam Zagoria ? @AdamZagoria
With a national-best 99 blocks Chris @obekpa12 has more blocks than 288 D-1 schools #stjbb