6th Man of St. John's Basketball
St. John's Red Storm => Recruiting Archives => Recruiting => 2013 Class => Topic started by: MCNPA on July 07, 2011, 03:15:16 AM
-
" Jordan, PG- When we previewed the Breakout Challenge, one of the questions we had was just how good is the rising junior point guard from Philadelphia. Standing near 6-foot-4, Jordan is easily a high major prospect and likely and perhaps the best long term prospect in attendance. Blessed with size, speed and athleticism, Jordan also has an outstanding feel for the game and is a creative playmaker off of the dribble. Even Wall was asking media about #59 and his current list of Pitt, Arizona, St. Joseph's, Drexel, LaSalle, Temple, Georgetown and St. John's is likely going to get more crowded with big names."
http://kentucky.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1237878 (http://kentucky.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1237878)
-
Another big point guard.
-
Lets start the height debate. 6'4 in the writeup and 6'2 on the Rivals database.
Someone pull out the tape measure ;)
-
Lets start the height debate. 6'4 in the writeup and 6'2 on the Rivals database.
Someone pull out the tape measure ;)
It's no debate. 6'3" now, 6'5" senior season... ;)
-
Rysheed Jordan, PG – Although he didn’t necessarily have an outstanding day, Jordan, a 6-foot-4 lead guard, was the talk of the camp. A great looking prospect, Jordan has great size for the point guard position, he sees the floor quite well and is a tremendous passer. There are still areas for improvement, as he’ll need to get more consistent with his jump shot, but he’s a talent and arguably one of the top lead guards in the 2013 class.
Rysheed Jordan said Pittsburgh, Arizona, St. Josephs, Drexel, LaSalle, Temple, Georgetown and St. John’s have shown interest.
http://scouthoops.scout.com/2/1084871.html (http://scouthoops.scout.com/2/1084871.html)
-
And to round it out Zags does an interview with him as well. See attached link. Lists SJU and says he plans on visiting SJU and Georgetown this summer.
http://www.zagsblog.com/2011/07/07/rysheed-jordan-talks-recruiting/ (http://www.zagsblog.com/2011/07/07/rysheed-jordan-talks-recruiting/)
-
And to round it out Zags does an interview with him as well. See attached link. Lists SJU and says he plans on visiting SJU and Georgetown this summer.
http://www.zagsblog.com/2011/07/07/rysheed-jordan-talks-recruiting/ (http://www.zagsblog.com/2011/07/07/rysheed-jordan-talks-recruiting/)
I was just about to post this, fordham. Sounds good! Color me confident, but I feel if we truly want him then we can get him.
-
Per ESPN Recruiting....
Eye on underclassmen
Rysheed Jordan (Philadelphia/ Vaux Roberts)
2013, PG, 6-3, 175 pounds
The embodiment of the word prospect, Jordan is nearly 6-4 and owns exciting physical attributes. His length is going to make him a sticky ball hawk. As an attacker, he scores big points and his handle is confident and tight. If he can mix in a reliable jump shot, he'll be a shoe-in high-major recruit and first-tier priority.
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/recruiting/basketball/mens/news/story?id=6745698 (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/recruiting/basketball/mens/news/story?id=6745698)
-
Looks like Chiles with his years of coaching in Philly at Drexel is paying off. First it was Nuri and now possibly Rysheed.
-
Looks like Chiles with his years of coaching in Philly at Drexel is paying off. First it was Nuri and now possibly Rysheed.
No its because of Sean Evans :) (Calling Bobre)
-
Looks like Chiles with his years of coaching in Philly at Drexel is paying off. First it was Nuri and now possibly Rysheed.
No its because of Sean Evans :) (Calling Bobre)
LOL Your call might get him to answer. Then again, he might be tired of the incessant internet links or analyses of players no one has seen. ;) I guess there is no one on here who has never had any inside info. ::)
-
From Rivals.com. Sounds like this kid is blowin' up:
Rysheed Jordan, PG- The general consensus at camp is that Jordan appears to be the top prospect in attendance and it's hard to argue with that. At nearly 6-foot-4, he's got great size for the position, is a high level athlete and gets wherever he needs to go with the ball. It looked almost too easy for him at times and his floor vision is as good as anybody in the country. His next event will be the NY2LA event in Milwaukee with Philly based PTP and we expect him to start attracting college basketball's heavy hitters.
http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1238273 (http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1238273)
-
From Rivals.com. Sounds like this kid is blowin' up:
Rysheed Jordan, PG- The general consensus at camp is that Jordan appears to be the top prospect in attendance and it's hard to argue with that. At nearly 6-foot-4, he's got great size for the position, is a high level athlete and gets wherever he needs to go with the ball. It looked almost too easy for him at times and his floor vision is as good as anybody in the country. His next event will be the NY2LA event in Milwaukee with Philly based PTP and we expect him to start attracting college basketball's heavy hitters.
http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1238273 (http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1238273)
Kinda like how Pointer blew up last year. Just a year earlier in Rysheed's case.
-
From Rivals.com. Sounds like this kid is blowin' up:
Rysheed Jordan, PG- The general consensus at camp is that Jordan appears to be the top prospect in attendance and it's hard to argue with that. At nearly 6-foot-4, he's got great size for the position, is a high level athlete and gets wherever he needs to go with the ball. It looked almost too easy for him at times and his floor vision is as good as anybody in the country. His next event will be the NY2LA event in Milwaukee with Philly based PTP and we expect him to start attracting college basketball's heavy hitters.
http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1238273 (http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1238273)
Kinda like how Pointer blew up last year. Just a year earlier in Rysheed's case.
You can bet Lavin will be onmthis kid with his size. A lot depends though on what Kyle Anderson does as well as Nuri. There would be a logjam at the point if Nuri doesn't advance to his goals of the NBA and we happen to land KA.
-
I think Stith will play this year, and then transfer out to the MAAC.
That will create room.
-
I think Stith will play this year, and then transfer out to the MAAC.
That will create room.
Stith graduates 3 months before Jordan enrolls anywhere.
Stith has no effect whatsoever.
Nuri will be a senior (If here) when Jordan is a frosh-
Whether Green or DH can handle point would impact him most.
-
Rysheed Jordan (Robert Vaux HS/Players Teaching Players)
There was a lot of hype centering Jordan entering the camp and many scouts, reporters and college coaches were anxious to get a look at him. He did not disappoint as the 6-foot-3, Class of 2013 point guard has all the look of a sure fire high major recruit. He has definitely noticed the increased attention of late.
“I think I’m blowing up,” said Jordan of the recent influx of recruiting attention. “I’m easing my way up.”
Drexel, La Salle, Temple, St. Joseph’s, Seton Hall, Pittsburgh, St. John’s, Arizona and Georgetown were mentioned by Jordan on Thursday and he noted “a lot of other schools” are just getting involved now too.
Jordan also mentioned he is supposed to visit St. John’s and Georgetown before the summer is out.
Jordan responded “yes,” when asked by NBE if it was his goal to play at a high major conference. He is well on his way to accomplishing that goal.
http://www.nbebasketball.com/w3/2011-0708/reebok-breakout-challenge-thursday-recruiting-roundup/ (http://www.nbebasketball.com/w3/2011-0708/reebok-breakout-challenge-thursday-recruiting-roundup/)
-
Per Rivals....
Rysheed Jordan, PG, PTP- It's not a question of if the 6-foot-4 point guard from Philadelphia will enter the rankings for 2013 after the summer. It's just a matter of how high he debuts. PTP bowed out in its first playoff round game but it wasn't for lack of effort from Jordan. The kid is big, athletic and always trying to make things happen on each end of the floor.
http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1240612 (http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1240612)
-
I think Stith will play this year, and then transfer out to the MAAC.
That will create room.
I hope he goes to Manhattan
-
I think Stith will play this year, and then transfer out to the MAAC.
That will create room.
I hope he goes to Manhattan
I wouldn't write Stith's obituary just yet. I think he comes out like a man possessed this year and senior leadership is priceless--especially a senior that works as hard as Stith and sets the right tone.
I don't see a logam at point if we sign all our targets. We'd have only one pure PG, Jevon Thomas, when Jordan gets to campus and Nuri would be a senior if he's still around.
Kyle will be defending forwards, so there would have to be someone on the court at all times that can defend the point and you can't just rely on Thomas for that. At 6'4, Jordan could find time at both guards spots. Pure ball-handlers always find time.
-
Per Rivals.... Jordan is a player who has "made a name" for himself, this month.
Rysheed Jordan
The Breakout Player of the Reebok camp, Jordan is a physical and athletic 6-foot-4 point guard. Reminiscent in some ways of a young Gary Payton because of his post-up game and prowess on the defensive end, Jordan should make a pretty big splash when rankings for the class of 2013 are updated.
http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1241452 (http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1241452)
-
Per Rivals.... Jordan is a player who has "made a name" for himself, this month.
Rysheed Jordan
The Breakout Player of the Reebok camp, Jordan is a physical and athletic 6-foot-4 point guard. Reminiscent in some ways of a young Gary Payton because of his post-up game and prowess on the defensive end, Jordan should make a pretty big splash when rankings for the class of 2013 are updated.
http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1241452 (http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1241452)
Was Gary Payton 6'4?
-
Per Rivals.... Jordan is a player who has "made a name" for himself, this month.
Rysheed Jordan
The Breakout Player of the Reebok camp, Jordan is a physical and athletic 6-foot-4 point guard. Reminiscent in some ways of a young Gary Payton because of his post-up game and prowess on the defensive end, Jordan should make a pretty big splash when rankings for the class of 2013 are updated.
http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1241452 (http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1241452)
Was Gary Payton 6'4?
Yep.
-
Per Rivals.... Jordan is a player who has "made a name" for himself, this month.
Rysheed Jordan
The Breakout Player of the Reebok camp, Jordan is a physical and athletic 6-foot-4 point guard. Reminiscent in some ways of a young Gary Payton because of his post-up game and prowess on the defensive end, Jordan should make a pretty big splash when rankings for the class of 2013 are updated.
http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1241452 (http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1241452)
Was Gary Payton 6'4?
Yep.
Seems like he played a lot smaller than that.
-
Hearing this kid is a becoming a priority. I believe he is ahead of Terence Samuel in the PG pecking order for 2013.
-
Hearing this kid is a becoming a priority. I believe he is ahead of Terence Samuel in the PG pecking order for 2013.
His size I would assume would be the factor that pushes him ahead.
-
Hearing this kid is a becoming a priority. I believe he is ahead of Terence Samuel in the PG pecking order for 2013.
are you talking in terms of us or just in general fordham?
-
The mention of Gary Payton's name brings back bad memories. I had lunch with Coach C. a few years ago and he said his two biggest recruiting mistakes were Gary Payton and Julius Erving. Ouch!!! Remember, Gary wanted St. John's real bad, but Coach C. already had Lewis and Broadnaux signed. Double Ouch!!!
-
Hearing this kid is a becoming a priority. I believe he is ahead of Terence Samuel in the PG pecking order for 2013.
are you talking in terms of us or just in general fordham?
SJU.
-
Alex Kline tweeted that we officially offered Rysheed Jordan today. Kid is a best. Certainly should be a priority.
-
Alex Kline tweeted that we officially offered Rysheed Jordan today. Kid is a best. Certainly should be a priority.
Per Maurice Wingate of Rivals:
http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1242326 (http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1242326)
-
Per Evan Daniels (Scout.com)....
Guy that is under the radar but won't be for long? Rysheed Jordan. His name has yet to catch on a major level, but it will. 6'4 lead guard.
[tweet]http://twitter.com/#!/EvanDanielscout/status/93729107459846144[/tweet]
-
per zag's twitter:
2013 PG Rysheed Jordan confirmed he has offers from St. John's and Kansas and says he plans to visit #stjbb this summer
-
Per Zags....
“St. John’s offered me,” Jordan said late Wednesday by phone.
A source close to the staff said St. John’s was “very high on his game.”
Jordan said he planned to visit St. John’s “probably this summer, probably in August.”
http://www.zagsblog.com/2011/07/21/st-johns-kansas-offer-rysheed-jordan/#more-54928 (http://www.zagsblog.com/2011/07/21/st-johns-kansas-offer-rysheed-jordan/#more-54928)
-
Kid is a high priority for 2013. Staff will be following him around starting tomorrow. Don't let this staff get a head start on a kid!!! LOL!!
Scout and Rivals all hint when they revise their 2013 rankings he will debut fairly high. Kansas offering him this early is evidence of that.
-
Kid is a high priority for 2013. Staff will be following him around starting tomorrow. Don't let this staff get a head start on a kid!!! LOL!!
Scout and Rivals all hint when they revise their 2013 rankings he will debut fairly high. Kansas offering him this early is evidence of that.
Jordan will be in Vegas on tomorrow, right? I wouldn't want to deal with our staff--head start or not--if I were most schools. LOL
I bet if Jordan plays well over the weekend then he'll probably be a top 20-30 player once Rivals and Scout revise their respective rankings after the summer.
-
Need to get this kid visiting this summer and working on him. Rysheed Jordan for 2013, McCollough for 14' and a few others. Things lining themselves up pretty well... :)
-
Once our current roster starts tearing things up and playing brand of athletic and fast basketball that few teams can match, it is going to get very easy for Lavin and co. to close on the top talent. The kids want to see the on-court product.
-
Per Zags....
Georgetown hosted Rysheed Jordan, a 2013 point guard from Pennsylvania, for an unofficial visit on Friday. Jordan called the visit “good.” Hoyas coach John Thompson III watched the rising junior play last Sunday at the End of Summer Classic. Jordan is hearing from the Hoyas, St. John’s, Kansas, Pittsburgh, Villanova and more. No visit date has been set to St. John’s.
http://www.zagsblog.com/2011/08/06/carolina-offers-warren-parker-recruiting-rundown/#more-55660 (http://www.zagsblog.com/2011/08/06/carolina-offers-warren-parker-recruiting-rundown/#more-55660)
-
Looks like Chiles with his years of coaching in Philly at Drexel is paying off. First it was Nuri and now possibly Rysheed.
No its because of Sean Evans :) (Calling Bobre)
LOL Your call might get him to answer. Then again, he might be tired of the incessant internet links or analyses of players no one has seen. ;) I guess there is no one on here who has never had any inside info. ::)
And to think you agreed with me just the other day. Make up your mind.
-
Per Zags....
Georgetown hosted Rysheed Jordan, a 2013 point guard from Pennsylvania, for an unofficial visit on Friday. Jordan called the visit “good.” Hoyas coach John Thompson III watched the rising junior play last Sunday at the End of Summer Classic. Jordan is hearing from the Hoyas, St. John’s, Kansas, Pittsburgh, Villanova and more. No visit date has been set to St. John’s.
http://www.zagsblog.com/2011/08/06/carolina-offers-warren-parker-recruiting-rundown/#more-55660 (http://www.zagsblog.com/2011/08/06/carolina-offers-warren-parker-recruiting-rundown/#more-55660)
When a recruit ony says a visit was "good," I think it is kind of a negative.
-
Looks like Chiles with his years of coaching in Philly at Drexel is paying off. First it was Nuri and now possibly Rysheed.
No its because of Sean Evans :) (Calling Bobre)
LOL Your call might get him to answer. Then again, he might be tired of the incessant internet links or analyses of players no one has seen. ;) I guess there is no one on here who has never had any inside info. ::)
And to think you agreed with me just the other day. Make up your mind.
I did agree with you a few days ago. Look at the date of this post, bobre.... A month ago. LOL
-
ESPN updated the class of 2013 rankings: Jordan makes the big jump to 25.
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/recruiting/rankings/_/class/2013 (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/recruiting/rankings/_/class/2013)
-
ESPN updated the class of 2013 rankings: Jordan makes the big jump to 25.
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/recruiting/rankings/_/class/2013 (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/recruiting/rankings/_/class/2013)
Pretty much where I thought he'd be once the new rankings were released.
-
ESPN updated the class of 2013 rankings: Jordan makes the big jump to 25.
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/recruiting/rankings/_/class/2013 (http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/recruiting/rankings/_/class/2013)
Also to note we've been mentioned at times with-
15- Nate Britt
19- Isaac Hamilton
30- Kuran Iverson
31- Ishmail Wainwright
37- Bee Jay Anya
41- Austin Colbert
46- Jordan Bell
59- Aquille Carr
-
Moose, my best guesses for 2013 as far as SJU's chances are Rysheed Jordan and Wainright. We'll need a big man too though.
-
Moose, my best guesses for 2013 as far as SJU's chances are Rysheed Jordan and Wainright.
I agree! Although, things can change, as far as guys the staff may target.
We'll need a big man too though.
Obekpa (although, he's 2012)?
-
Moose, my best guesses for 2013 as far as SJU's chances are Rysheed Jordan and Wainright.
I agree! Although, things can change, as far as guys the staff may target.
We'll need a big man too though.
Obekpa (although, he's 2012)?
I want to see somebody bigger than obekpa. A real post guy.
-
Two separate clips of Jordan....
Chosen League Mixtape presented by Dime Magazine ft. Rysheed Jordan, Amir Garrett, SICK DUNKS (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9G3LAcqJqYo#)
-
Moose, my best guesses for 2013 as far as SJU's chances are Rysheed Jordan and Wainright. We'll need a big man too though.
How about local big men Jordan Washington or Jermaine Lawrence?
-
Moose, my best guesses for 2013 as far as SJU's chances are Rysheed Jordan and Wainright. We'll need a big man too though.
How about local big men Jordan Washington or Jermaine Lawrence?
Surprised neither were listed also.
-
Looks like Chiles with his years of coaching in Philly at Drexel is paying off. First it was Nuri and now possibly Rysheed.
No its because of Sean Evans :) (Calling Bobre)
LOL Your call might get him to answer. Then again, he might be tired of the incessant internet links or analyses of players no one has seen. ;) I guess there is no one on here who has never had any inside info. ::)
And to think you agreed with me just the other day. Make up your mind.
I did agree with you a few days ago. Look at the date of this post, bobre.... A month ago. LOL
You know you can't help it. Evans is gone and none of us knows any more than anyone else till the balls roll out. I'll be there for that as always.
-
I did agree with you a few days ago. Look at the date of this post, bobre.... A month ago. LOL
You know you can't help it. Evans is gone and none of us knows any more than anyone else till the balls roll out. I'll be there for that as always.
Well.... We both agree that we can be a pretty solid team this season. :up:
-
I'd rather have Jordan than Britt. Don't think Britt will end up a Hoya. Think his recruitment is a lot like Quinn Cook. Wants to go to Duke or UNC will probably settle for Maryland if he doesn't get the tobacco road offer. I think Jordan is the better prospect.
-
I like Jordan a lot. I like Iverson plummets as the class finishes up. Wainwright sounds exactly like a Lavin type of guy. Lavin, at least here, wants guys that can handle the ball and attack the basket from the perimeter.
-
He was a stand out at the chosen league that has some great talent. He's on the first team. Amir is on the second team.
http://dimemag.com/2011/08/rysheed-jordan-headlines-the-2011-all-chosen-league-teams/ (http://dimemag.com/2011/08/rysheed-jordan-headlines-the-2011-all-chosen-league-teams/)
-
He was a stand out at the chosen league that has some great talent. He's on the first team. Amir is on the second team.
http://dimemag.com/2011/08/rysheed-jordan-headlines-the-2011-all-chosen-league-teams/ (http://dimemag.com/2011/08/rysheed-jordan-headlines-the-2011-all-chosen-league-teams/)
Lol, wonder which Philly guy chose that team...
-
Unofficial to Rutgers today.
-
Will be attending G'town's Midnight Madness.
-
Will be attending G'town's Midnight Madness.
Kyle made a living attending Gtown Midnight Madness the past few years :)
-
Will be attending G'town's Midnight Madness.
Kyle made a living attending Gtown Midnight Madness the past few years :)
No kidding! LOL He went two years in a row.
-
Sorry but a kid from Philly who can attend MM at Gtown or ST J and chooses to go to GT is not a good sign IMHO. Wouldn't you choose to go to the place you are more interested in and possibly leaning to. Seems we signed most of our guys who attended MM last year. Besides KA going to GT MM over UCLA makes sense as it is local and 3,000 miles is long way to travel for MM or maybe he became interested in UCLA later on while Jordan supposedly has interest in both us and GT already.
-
Sorry but a kid from Philly who can attend MM at Gtown or ST J and chooses to go to GT is not a good sign IMHO. Wouldn't you choose to go to the place you are more interested in and possibly leaning to. Seems we signed most of our guys who attended MM last year. Besides KA going to GT MM over UCLA makes sense as it is local and 3,000 miles is long way to travel for MM or maybe he became interested in UCLA later on while Jordan supposedly has interest in both us and GT already.
Jordan isn't leaning towards us, there is no lean or favorite.
These MM attendees are much ado about nothing. We already had a bunch of commits by the time MM came up last yr and they attended after committing.
If your theory about Jordan visiting Gtown instead of us holds what are your feelings about McCullough going to Quinnipiac. See?
-
Jordan is a big PG who is built for our running style. Putting him in the Princetown offense as the PG is probably not the greatest fit, although Chris Wright did a good job of it.
-
Sorry but a kid from Philly who can attend MM at Gtown or ST J and chooses to go to GT is not a good sign IMHO. Wouldn't you choose to go to the place you are more interested in and possibly leaning to. Seems we signed most of our guys who attended MM last year. Besides KA going to GT MM over UCLA makes sense as it is local and 3,000 miles is long way to travel for MM or maybe he became interested in UCLA later on while Jordan supposedly has interest in both us and GT already.
Jordan isn't leaning towards us, there is no lean or favorite.
These MM attendees are much ado about nothing. We already had a bunch of commits by the time MM came up last yr and they attended after committing.
If your theory about Jordan visiting Gtown instead of us holds what are your feelings about McCullough going to Quinnipiac. See?
Your analogy w ith McCullough is a poor one. We all know such a high rated player is not going to Quinnipiac. Not saying where you spend MM is dispositive of where you will end up just that I would feel better if he was coming to our MM. Not saying he is a lean anywhere either.
-
Did he commit here? He is stickied to the top.
-
Did he commit here? He is stickied to the top.
No. Smart phone error by this moderator.
-
I'll be more worried if Jordan goes somewhere else for Midnight Madness during his senior year.
-
Sorry but a kid from Philly who can attend MM at Gtown or ST J and chooses to go to GT is not a good sign IMHO. Wouldn't you choose to go to the place you are more interested in and possibly leaning to. Seems we signed most of our guys who attended MM last year. Besides KA going to GT MM over UCLA makes sense as it is local and 3,000 miles is long way to travel for MM or maybe he became interested in UCLA later on while Jordan supposedly has interest in both us and GT already.
Jordan isn't leaning towards us, there is no lean or favorite.
These MM attendees are much ado about nothing. We already had a bunch of commits by the time MM came up last yr and they attended after committing.
If your theory about Jordan visiting Gtown instead of us holds what are your feelings about McCullough going to Quinnipiac. See?
Your analogy w ith McCullough is a poor one. We all know such a high rated player is not going to Quinnipiac. Not saying where you spend MM is dispositive of where you will end up just that I would feel better if he was coming to our MM. Not saying he is a lean anywhere either.
How is it poor? You said 'wouldn't you go to where your leaning'? Can't have it both ways man. If thats your opinion than translating that into McCullough would have him in Hamden. Among plenty of other 'examples'
Its not a big deal that Jordan is at Gtown. He was on campus for skills camp in June already.
-
He was supposed to be visiting Hall today per Twitter.
-
How is it poor?
Because Mccullough is not going to Quinnipiac. Can you say the same about Jordan and Georgetown?
-
How is it poor?
Because Mccullough is not going to Quinnipiac. Can you say the same about Jordan and Georgetown?
Can't have the theory both ways. Because where is the line drawn then? We know a couple of the kids that visited STJ are not BE caliber players. But there were other reasons for them attending.
-
How is it poor?
Because Mccullough is not going to Quinnipiac. Can you say the same about Jordan and Georgetown?
Can't have the theory both ways. Because where is the line drawn then? We know a couple of the kids that visited STJ are not BE caliber players. But there were other reasons for them attending.
Thats your story and you are sticking to it. Not everything is black and white there are shades of gray but if you cannot appreciate the difference so be it. ::)
-
Sorry but a kid from Philly who can attend MM at Gtown or ST J and chooses to go to GT is not a good sign IMHO. Wouldn't you choose to go to the place you are more interested in and possibly leaning to. Seems we signed most of our guys who attended MM last year. Besides KA going to GT MM over UCLA makes sense as it is local and 3,000 miles is long way to travel for MM or maybe he became interested in UCLA later on while Jordan supposedly has interest in both us and GT already.
Jordan isn't leaning towards us, there is no lean or favorite.
These MM attendees are much ado about nothing. We already had a bunch of commits by the time MM came up last yr and they attended after committing.
If your theory about Jordan visiting Gtown instead of us holds what are your feelings about McCullough going to Quinnipiac. See?
Your analogy w ith McCullough is a poor one. We all know such a high rated player is not going to Quinnipiac. Not saying where you spend MM is dispositive of where you will end up just that I would feel better if he was coming to our MM. Not saying he is a lean anywhere either.
KA attended a couple of MM at Georgetown, but verballed to UCLA.
-
Sorry but a kid from Philly who can attend MM at Gtown or ST J and chooses to go to GT is not a good sign IMHO. Wouldn't you choose to go to the place you are more interested in and possibly leaning to. Seems we signed most of our guys who attended MM last year. Besides KA going to GT MM over UCLA makes sense as it is local and 3,000 miles is long way to travel for MM or maybe he became interested in UCLA later on while Jordan supposedly has interest in both us and GT already.
Jordan isn't leaning towards us, there is no lean or favorite.
These MM attendees are much ado about nothing. We already had a bunch of commits by the time MM came up last yr and they attended after committing.
If your theory about Jordan visiting Gtown instead of us holds what are your feelings about McCullough going to Quinnipiac. See?
Your analogy w ith McCullough is a poor one. We all know such a high rated player is not going to Quinnipiac. Not saying where you spend MM is dispositive of where you will end up just that I would feel better if he was coming to our MM. Not saying he is a lean anywhere either.
KA attended a couple of MM at Georgetown, but verballed to UCLA.
What's your point? Did you not read the part where I said attendance at MM is not dispositive of where a recruit will end up or do you just not understand the meaning of the word dispositive? ::)
-
Sorry but a kid from Philly who can attend MM at Gtown or ST J and chooses to go to GT is not a good sign IMHO. Wouldn't you choose to go to the place you are more interested in and possibly leaning to. Seems we signed most of our guys who attended MM last year. Besides KA going to GT MM over UCLA makes sense as it is local and 3,000 miles is long way to travel for MM or maybe he became interested in UCLA later on while Jordan supposedly has interest in both us and GT already.
Jordan isn't leaning towards us, there is no lean or favorite.
These MM attendees are much ado about nothing. We already had a bunch of commits by the time MM came up last yr and they attended after committing.
If your theory about Jordan visiting Gtown instead of us holds what are your feelings about McCullough going to Quinnipiac. See?
Your analogy w ith McCullough is a poor one. We all know such a high rated player is not going to Quinnipiac. Not saying where you spend MM is dispositive of where you will end up just that I would feel better if he was coming to our MM. Not saying he is a lean anywhere either.
KA attended a couple of MM at Georgetown, but verballed to UCLA.
What's your point? Did you not read the part where I said attendance at MM is not dispositive of where a recruit will end up or do you just not understand the meaning of the word dispositive? ::)
What's your point then? You still were making a big deal about Jordan going to Gtown, but if its not dispositive like you said then what's the big deal?
-
Never made a big deal out of it. Just said I would feel better if he was at our MM. Guess I am not entitled to my FEELINGS. Try and get in touch with your feminine side Moose-FEELINGS are very important. :'(
-
Never made a big deal out of it. Just said I would feel better if he was at our MM. Guess I am not entitled to my FEELINGS. Try and get in touch with your feminine side Moose-FEELINGS are very important. :'(
You called my opinion poor and your now talking about feelings. ::)
Whatever floats your boat. Lets get back to Rysheed.
-
Sorry but a kid from Philly who can attend MM at Gtown or ST J and chooses to go to GT is not a good sign IMHO. Wouldn't you choose to go to the place you are more interested in and possibly leaning to. Seems we signed most of our guys who attended MM last year. Besides KA going to GT MM over UCLA makes sense as it is local and 3,000 miles is long way to travel for MM or maybe he became interested in UCLA later on while Jordan supposedly has interest in both us and GT already.
Jordan isn't leaning towards us, there is no lean or favorite.
These MM attendees are much ado about nothing. We already had a bunch of commits by the time MM came up last yr and they attended after committing.
If your theory about Jordan visiting Gtown instead of us holds what are your feelings about McCullough going to Quinnipiac. See?
Your analogy w ith McCullough is a poor one. We all know such a high rated player is not going to Quinnipiac. Not saying where you spend MM is dispositive of where you will end up just that I would feel better if he was coming to our MM. Not saying he is a lean anywhere either.
KA attended a couple of MM at Georgetown, but verballed to UCLA.
Last year Jevon Thomas went to Nova MM and they verballed to us within days if I am not mistaken. Would be nice if they would all come to our event but perhaps friends of his were attending Georgetown, who knows. We just need him to take an unofficial to campus this year.
-
MM's impact is wayyyy overrated. The relationship with the coaching staff and players is paramount to most commits. The dog and pony show pretty much don't mean squat. I can just see it: "I chose G'Town because Wale performed at MM - it was amazing"
-
How is it poor?
Because Mccullough is not going to Quinnipiac. Can you say the same about Jordan and Georgetown?
Can't have the theory both ways. Because where is the line drawn then? We know a couple of the kids that visited STJ are not BE caliber players. But there were other reasons for them attending.
There is no possible way McCullough goes to Quinnipiac...you're analogy fails. Bottom line... Jordan going to Georgetown midnight madness is good for Georgetown and not good for us. It doesn't mean his recruitment is done but surely you can admit it is a better sign for Georgetown.
-
How is it poor?
Because Mccullough is not going to Quinnipiac. Can you say the same about Jordan and Georgetown?
Can't have the theory both ways. Because where is the line drawn then? We know a couple of the kids that visited STJ are not BE caliber players. But there were other reasons for them attending.
There is no possible way McCullough goes to Quinnipiac...you're analogy fails. Bottom line... Jordan going to Georgetown midnight madness is good for Georgetown and not good for us. It doesn't mean his recruitment is done but surely you can admit it is a better sign for Georgetown.
What are you talking about? I never said he's going to Quinn. I said where they go to MM means nothing. And myself and others have backed that up with examples such as Kyle (Gtown), Jevon (Nova), and others who attended our event and will never even be recruited by us. No I can't admit that its such a big negative. There are tons of other examples of players at MM that means nothing.
And whats even more confusing is then for some reason Celtics backed off that and recently said that where they go for MM means nothing. So then I 'fail' to understand how its necessarily bad for us.
-
Last year Jevon Thomas went to Nova MM and they verballed to us within days if I am not mistaken.
Jevon Thomas also attended our MM last year.
-
Last year Jevon Thomas went to Nova MM and they verballed to us within days if I am not mistaken.
Jevon Thomas also attended our MM last year.
Yes because Nova hosts theirs the week after every yr.
-
What are you talking about? I never said he's going to Quinn. I said where they go to MM means nothing. And myself and others have backed that up with examples such as Kyle (Gtown), Jevon (Nova), and others who attended our event and will never even be recruited by us. No I can't admit that its such a big negative. There are tons of other examples of players at MM that means nothing.
You asked why your analogy is poor...I gave you the answer. There are also tons of examples of players at MM that means something. Jordan had the chance to go to our midnight madness or Georgetown (among others). He chose Georgetown. I did not say it was a big negative...but it is certainly a good sign for Georgetown.
-
What are you talking about? I never said he's going to Quinn. I said where they go to MM means nothing. And myself and others have backed that up with examples such as Kyle (Gtown), Jevon (Nova), and others who attended our event and will never even be recruited by us. No I can't admit that its such a big negative. There are tons of other examples of players at MM that means nothing.
You asked why your analogy is poor...I gave you the answer. There are also tons of examples of players at MM that means something. Jordan had the chance to go to our midnight madness or Georgetown (among others). He chose Georgetown. I did not say it was a big negative...but it is certainly a good sign for Georgetown.
I'd like the original poster to confirm whether he thinks where they attend MM is indicative of where a kid chooses.
-
Never made a big deal out of it. Just said I would feel better if he was at our MM. Guess I am not entitled to my FEELINGS. Try and get in touch with your feminine side Moose-FEELINGS are very important. :'(
Yes. You are definitely the sensitive type.
-
Wow this thread sux.
-
Wow this thread sux.
Thanks for lending us your wisdom, because all threads follow that picture perfect path. And you have never participated in a thread gone wild?
-
Wow this thread sux.
Thanks for lending us your wisdom, because all threads follow that picture perfect path. And you have never participated in a thread gone wild?
I am usually the reason threads go wild.
-
Wow this thread sux.
Thanks for lending us your wisdom, because all threads follow that picture perfect path. And you have never participated in a thread gone wild?
I am usually the reason threads go wild.
I learn from the best :)
-
Per Kline's twitter SJU is among of big schools recruiting Rysheed the hardest.
-
Per Kline's twitter we are among of big schools recruiting Rysheed the hardest.
Good, because he's excellent. Big guard and can really pass. Definitely pg of the future material.
-
Per Kline's twitter we are among of big schools recruiting Rysheed the hardest.
Good, because he's excellent. Big guard and can really pass. Definitely pg of the future material.
A top 25 player, who made a name for himself over the summer, as well.
-
TheRecruitScoop Alex Kline: St. John's, Cincy, Rutgers, Drexel, Xavier, Miami & more watching 2014 PG Isaiah Whitehead vs 2013 PG Rysheed Jordan, per @TheoRabinowitz.
-
Per Alex Kline....
2013 Vaux (PA) PG Rysheed Jordan had 31 points, 8 assists & 8 rebounds. Georgetown, Kansas, St. John's, Maryland, Nova & more after him.
http://twitter.com/# (http://twitter.com/#)!/TheRecruitScoop/status/160872994556755968
-
Per Alex Kline....
2013 Vaux (PA) PG Rysheed Jordan had 31 points, 8 assists & 8 rebounds. Georgetown, Kansas, St. John's, Maryland, Nova & more after him.
http://twitter.com/# (http://twitter.com/#)!/TheRecruitScoop/status/160872994556755968
He tweeted the other day he will decide in July.
-
Kid is a stud. My first choice to replace Branch.
-
Per Alex Kline....
2013 Vaux (PA) PG Rysheed Jordan had 31 points, 8 assists & 8 rebounds. Georgetown, Kansas, St. John's, Maryland, Nova & more after him.
http://twitter.com/# (http://twitter.com/#)!/TheRecruitScoop/status/160872994556755968
He tweeted the other day he will decide in July.
Oh, okay. I guess he's sticking to his guns. He stated, he would decide in the summer when he was interviewed last summer.
-
Kid is a stud. My first choice to replace Branch.
Why would we replace Branch?
-
Kid is a stud. My first choice to replace Branch.
Why would we replace Branch?
I'm assuming he means, when Branch graduates.
-
Kid is a stud. My first choice to replace Branch.
Cant argue with a 6'4 athletic point guard who fits lavins system to a T. I would love to have him but my money is on Parker Jackson-Cartwright being the better of the two
-
Kid is a stud. My first choice to replace Branch.
Cant argue with a 6'4 athletic point guard who fits lavins system to a T. I would love to have him but my money is on Parker Jackson-Cartwright being the better of the two
Yes i meant when Branch graduates, as Branch will be an upperclassmen. Ive only seen both in videos, but I think Rysheed going to be big time. Big, athletic, great vision and passing. Freakish for a pg his size.
-
Kid is a stud. My first choice to replace Branch.
Why would we replace Branch?
Branch would be a junior when Jordan gets to college, I think he meant to take over when Branch graduates.
-
Per Alex Kline he had a quadruple double
2013 Vaux (PA) PG Rysheed Jordan had 11 pts, 10 rebs, 11 assts & 11 stls
http://bit.ly/zJRSyX (http://bit.ly/zJRSyX)
-
Per Alex Kline he had a quadruple double
2013 Vaux (PA) PG Rysheed Jordan had 11 pts, 10 rebs, 11 assts & 11 stls
http://bit.ly/zJRSyX (http://bit.ly/zJRSyX)
Impressive at any level. Love the assists, thats what we need. Moose, which PG do you want in this class?
-
Per Alex Kline he had a quadruple double
2013 Vaux (PA) PG Rysheed Jordan had 11 pts, 10 rebs, 11 assts & 11 stls
http://bit.ly/zJRSyX (http://bit.ly/zJRSyX)
Impressive at any level. Love the assists, thats what we need. Moose, which PG do you want in this class?
Sina
-
Per Alex Kline he had a quadruple double
2013 Vaux (PA) PG Rysheed Jordan had 11 pts, 10 rebs, 11 assts & 11 stls
http://bit.ly/zJRSyX (http://bit.ly/zJRSyX)
Impressive at any level. Love the assists, thats what we need. Moose, which PG do you want in this class?
Sina
Ya me too, but I dont think he wants SJU. Check the board, I started a poll
-
Per Alex Kline he had a quadruple double
2013 Vaux (PA) PG Rysheed Jordan had 11 pts, 10 rebs, 11 assts & 11 stls
http://bit.ly/zJRSyX (http://bit.ly/zJRSyX)
Impressive at any level. Love the assists, thats what we need. Moose, which PG do you want in this class?
Sina
Ya me too, but I dont think he wants SJU. Check the board, I started a poll
I picked Sina, but Jordan is just as good.
-
Per Alex Kline he had a quadruple double
2013 Vaux (PA) PG Rysheed Jordan had 11 pts, 10 rebs, 11 assts & 11 stls
http://bit.ly/zJRSyX (http://bit.ly/zJRSyX)
Impressive at any level. Love the assists, thats what we need. Moose, which PG do you want in this class?
Sina
Ya me too, but I dont think he wants SJU. Check the board, I started a poll
I picked Sina, but Jordan is just as good.
Jordan is bigger, faster than Sina. I don't know what type of shooter he is but either guy would be great.
-
Scout updated it's rankings. They have Jordan at 24 and Sina at 58. A couple of other St. John's targets are on there as well.
http://scouthoops.scout.com/a.z?s=75&p=9&c=4&cfg=bb&pid=88&yr=2013 (http://scouthoops.scout.com/a.z?s=75&p=9&c=4&cfg=bb&pid=88&yr=2013)
-
Alex Kline @TheRecruitScoop Close
2013 Vaux (PA) PG Rysheed Jordan scored his 1,000th point tonight. Kansas, St. John's, Temple, Maryland, Georgetown & more on him.
-
As much as I love Sina he's not Rysheed Jordan. Sina will need a system to be effective while Jordan is a big time playmaker. Jordan is going to have a long long list of suitors. I wouldn't downplay Temple one bit for his services due to location, conference, and sneaker deal.
-
As much as I love Sina he's not Rysheed Jordan. Sina will need a system to be effective while Jordan is a big time playmaker. Jordan is going to have a long long list of suitors. I wouldn't downplay Temple one bit for his services due to location, conference, and sneaker deal.
Good old Under Armour. I still think there will be a day when they are equals to Nike.
-
As much as I love Sina he's not Rysheed Jordan. Sina will need a system to be effective while Jordan is a big time playmaker. Jordan is going to have a long long list of suitors. I wouldn't downplay Temple one bit for his services due to location, conference, and sneaker deal.
Good old Under Armour. I still think there will be a day when they are equals to Nike.
I hope we turn on the recruiting for him once staff done with 2012 class.
-
As much as I love Sina he's not Rysheed Jordan. Sina will need a system to be effective while Jordan is a big time playmaker. Jordan is going to have a long long list of suitors. I wouldn't downplay Temple one bit for his services due to location, conference, and sneaker deal.
Good old Under Armour. I still think there will be a day when they are equals to Nike.
I hope we turn on the recruiting for him once staff done with 2012 class.
Same I think he should be a top priority
-
As much as I love Sina he's not Rysheed Jordan. Sina will need a system to be effective while Jordan is a big time playmaker. Jordan is going to have a long long list of suitors. I wouldn't downplay Temple one bit for his services due to location, conference, and sneaker deal.
Good old Under Armour. I still think there will be a day when they are equals to Nike.
I hope we turn on the recruiting for him once staff done with 2012 class.
Same I think he should be a top priority
I put Lawrence as top priority for 13. Jordan would come behind him. *Of course provided McCullough doesn't re-classify.
-
As much as I love Sina he's not Rysheed Jordan. Sina will need a system to be effective while Jordan is a big time playmaker. Jordan is going to have a long long list of suitors. I wouldn't downplay Temple one bit for his services due to location, conference, and sneaker deal.
Good old Under Armour. I still think there will be a day when they are equals to Nike.
I hope we turn on the recruiting for him once staff done with 2012 class.
Same I think he should be a top priority
I put Lawrence as top priority for 13. Jordan would come behind him. *Of course provided McCullough doesn't re-classify.
Yeah I think those 2 are extremely important. Once the 2012 class is signed we will get to see where we stand with some of these guys
-
Severe , Domingo?
-
As much as I love Sina he's not Rysheed Jordan. Sina will need a system to be effective while Jordan is a big time playmaker. Jordan is going to have a long long list of suitors. I wouldn't downplay Temple one bit for his services due to location, conference, and sneaker deal.
Good old Under Armour. I still think there will be a day when they are equals to Nike.
I hope we turn on the recruiting for him once staff done with 2012 class.
Same I think he should be a top priority
I put Lawrence as top priority for 13. Jordan would come behind him. *Of course provided McCullough doesn't re-classify.
Assuming McCullough remains a 14 and we do land Chandler
The three man class I hope to see is Lawrence, Domingo, and Jordan
-
Severe , Domingo?
Stop with Severe :)
-
Could be wrong, but Dave's Temple comment may be prophetic.
-
Severe , Domingo?
Stop with Severe :)
Too good to be true? Lol
-
Severe , Domingo?
Stop with Severe :)
Too good to be true? Lol
Haha
We just haven't been mentioned with him at all. I know things change. But again its that city player shine that is blinding you a bit.
-
Severe , Domingo?
Stop with Severe :)
Too good to be true? Lol
Haha
We just haven't been mentioned with him at all. I know things change. But again its that city player shine that is blinding you a bit.
I know we haven't been mentioned with him but I feel if there are any legit ones in our own backyard why not snag them? That was the beautiful thing with moe. When this program was at its peak it was taking the best kids from the area ; mullin, Jackson , artest and going to final fours. I often speak about the decline the city is on and how there are very very few kids that are even big east talents. I'm high on severe because he's a player while on the contrary I'm not so much on Lawrence and hall so to say its city bias isn't the truth. I'm around the highschool basketball scene a lot and try to do my duty by bringing back what I see to these boards, if I lived in Philly I'd probably be raving or chastising amile Jefferson if I lived in Chicago I'd be doing the same for Jabari Parker. Im just delivering what I'm able too, nothin more nothin less.
-
Severe , Domingo?
Stop with Severe :)
Too good to be true? Lol
Haha
We just haven't been mentioned with him at all. I know things change. But again its that city player shine that is blinding you a bit.
I know we haven't been mentioned with him but I feel if there are any legit ones in our own backyard why not snag them? That was the beautiful thing with moe. When this program was at its peak it was taking the best kids from the area ; mullin, Jackson , artest and going to final fours. I often speak about the decline the city is on and how there are very very few kids that are even big east talents. I'm high on severe because he's a player while on the contrary I'm not so much on Lawrence and hall so to say its city bias isn't the truth. I'm around the highschool basketball scene a lot and try to do my duty by bringing back what I see to these boards, if I lived in Philly I'd probably be raving or chastising amile Jefferson if I lived in Chicago I'd be doing the same for Jabari Parker. Im just delivering what I'm able too, nothin more nothin less.
Ok your not high on Lawrence but meanwhile the bigger schools are after him as opposed to Severe.
How do you rank the NYC kids of 2013?
Side note I've seen Severe 3 times and have not come away wishing we had him. Maybe its based on who we should already have on roster at that point. 13 class points to all signs of probably replacing a big man or two. Guard wise we seem to be set more.
-
Severe , Domingo?
Stop with Severe :)
Too good to be true? Lol
Haha
We just haven't been mentioned with him at all. I know things change. But again its that city player shine that is blinding you a bit.
I know we haven't been mentioned with him but I feel if there are any legit ones in our own backyard why not snag them? That was the beautiful thing with moe. When this program was at its peak it was taking the best kids from the area ; mullin, Jackson , artest and going to final fours. I often speak about the decline the city is on and how there are very very few kids that are even big east talents. I'm high on severe because he's a player while on the contrary I'm not so much on Lawrence and hall so to say its city bias isn't the truth. I'm around the highschool basketball scene a lot and try to do my duty by bringing back what I see to these boards, if I lived in Philly I'd probably be raving or chastising amile Jefferson if I lived in Chicago I'd be doing the same for Jabari Parker. Im just delivering what I'm able too, nothin more nothin less.
I'm with you.. Love Severe
-
Severe , Domingo?
Stop with Severe :)
Too good to be true? Lol
Haha
We just haven't been mentioned with him at all. I know things change. But again its that city player shine that is blinding you a bit.
I know we haven't been mentioned with him but I feel if there are any legit ones in our own backyard why not snag them? That was the beautiful thing with moe. When this program was at its peak it was taking the best kids from the area ; mullin, Jackson , artest and going to final fours. I often speak about the decline the city is on and how there are very very few kids that are even big east talents. I'm high on severe because he's a player while on the contrary I'm not so much on Lawrence and hall so to say its city bias isn't the truth. I'm around the highschool basketball scene a lot and try to do my duty by bringing back what I see to these boards, if I lived in Philly I'd probably be raving or chastising amile Jefferson if I lived in Chicago I'd be doing the same for Jabari Parker. Im just delivering what I'm able too, nothin more nothin less.
Ok your not high on Lawrence but meanwhile the bigger schools are after him as opposed to Severe.
How do you rank the NYC kids of 2013?
Side note I've seen Severe 3 times and have not come away wishing we had him. Maybe its based on who we should already have on roster at that point. 13 class points to all signs of probably replacing a big man or two. Guard wise we seem to be set more.
The bigger schools will start coming for Severe. I know Pitt loves him.. I hear you on him not showing out in some games.. But Ctk was Calhoun's team.. Wait til next year.
-
Severe , Domingo?
Stop with Severe :)
Too good to be true? Lol
Haha
We just haven't been mentioned with him at all. I know things change. But again its that city player shine that is blinding you a bit.
I know we haven't been mentioned with him but I feel if there are any legit ones in our own backyard why not snag them? That was the beautiful thing with moe. When this program was at its peak it was taking the best kids from the area ; mullin, Jackson , artest and going to final fours. I often speak about the decline the city is on and how there are very very few kids that are even big east talents. I'm high on severe because he's a player while on the contrary I'm not so much on Lawrence and hall so to say its city bias isn't the truth. I'm around the highschool basketball scene a lot and try to do my duty by bringing back what I see to these boards, if I lived in Philly I'd probably be raving or chastising amile Jefferson if I lived in Chicago I'd be doing the same for Jabari Parker. Im just delivering what I'm able too, nothin more nothin less.
Ok your not high on Lawrence but meanwhile the bigger schools are after him as opposed to Severe.
How do you rank the NYC kids of 2013?
Side note I've seen Severe 3 times and have not come away wishing we had him. Maybe its based on who we should already have on roster at that point. 13 class points to all signs of probably replacing a big man or two. Guard wise we seem to be set more.
The bigger schools will start coming for Severe. I know Pitt loves him.. I hear you on him not showing out in some games.. But Ctk was Calhoun's team.. Wait til next year.
Calhoun sucked most games I saw too :)
-
Severe , Domingo?
Stop with Severe :)
Too good to be true? Lol
Haha
We just haven't been mentioned with him at all. I know things change. But again its that city player shine that is blinding you a bit.
I know we haven't been mentioned with him but I feel if there are any legit ones in our own backyard why not snag them? That was the beautiful thing with moe. When this program was at its peak it was taking the best kids from the area ; mullin, Jackson , artest and going to final fours. I often speak about the decline the city is on and how there are very very few kids that are even big east talents. I'm high on severe because he's a player while on the contrary I'm not so much on Lawrence and hall so to say its city bias isn't the truth. I'm around the highschool basketball scene a lot and try to do my duty by bringing back what I see to these boards, if I lived in Philly I'd probably be raving or chastising amile Jefferson if I lived in Chicago I'd be doing the same for Jabari Parker. Im just delivering what I'm able too, nothin more nothin less.
Ok your not high on Lawrence but meanwhile the bigger schools are after him as opposed to Severe.
How do you rank the NYC kids of 2013?
Side note I've seen Severe 3 times and have not come away wishing we had him. Maybe its based on who we should already have on roster at that point. 13 class points to all signs of probably replacing a big man or two. Guard wise we seem to be set more.
The bigger schools will start coming for Severe. I know Pitt loves him.. I hear you on him not showing out in some games.. But Ctk was Calhoun's team.. Wait til next year.
Calhoun sucked most games I saw too :)
Preaching to the choir my friend.. Not a huge Calhoun fan myself.. But it was his team :)
-
The bigger schools will start coming for Severe. I know Pitt loves him.. I hear you on him not showing out in some games.. But Ctk was Calhoun's team.. Wait til next year.
I agree. I suppose that Severe will be much more important in his team without Calhoun.
-
Severe , Domingo?
Stop with Severe :)
Too good to be true? Lol
Haha
We just haven't been mentioned with him at all. I know things change. But again its that city player shine that is blinding you a bit.
I know we haven't been mentioned with him but I feel if there are any legit ones in our own backyard why not snag them? That was the beautiful thing with moe. When this program was at its peak it was taking the best kids from the area ; mullin, Jackson , artest and going to final fours. I often speak about the decline the city is on and how there are very very few kids that are even big east talents. I'm high on severe because he's a player while on the contrary I'm not so much on Lawrence and hall so to say its city bias isn't the truth. I'm around the highschool basketball scene a lot and try to do my duty by bringing back what I see to these boards, if I lived in Philly I'd probably be raving or chastising amile Jefferson if I lived in Chicago I'd be doing the same for Jabari Parker. Im just delivering what I'm able too, nothin more nothin less.
Ok your not high on Lawrence but meanwhile the bigger schools are after him as opposed to Severe.
How do you rank the NYC kids of 2013?
Side note I've seen Severe 3 times and have not come away wishing we had him. Maybe its based on who we should already have on roster at that point. 13 class points to all signs of probably replacing a big man or two. Guard wise we seem to be set more.
I agree with you in terms of if we land rysheed Jordan, but if we don't I would "hope" the staff takes a look at severe if not Sina. And a bunch of big schools have been mentioned with severe moose, Florida being the latest. It's a matter of how Lawrence's game will translate. He's 6'9 210. He's a twig, who went from playing low level competition to lower level competition. I do think he has potential but Needs a lot of work. He dosent even play on the big time circuit he runs with positive direction in the mid-major aau events. I posted 2 videos of him on his thread and aside from a few blocks and dunks against 5'10 kids you'll see how much polish this kid needs. He's a poor mans Chris McCullough
2013 in NYC is extremely weak
2013
Jordan Washington
Jon severe
Terrence Samuel
Jermaine
Shane rector
Hassan
#35687433) isaiah Lewis
-
Severe , Domingo?
Stop with Severe :)
Too good to be true? Lol
Haha
We just haven't been mentioned with him at all. I know things change. But again its that city player shine that is blinding you a bit.
I know we haven't been mentioned with him but I feel if there are any legit ones in our own backyard why not snag them? That was the beautiful thing with moe. When this program was at its peak it was taking the best kids from the area ; mullin, Jackson , artest and going to final fours. I often speak about the decline the city is on and how there are very very few kids that are even big east talents. I'm high on severe because he's a player while on the contrary I'm not so much on Lawrence and hall so to say its city bias isn't the truth. I'm around the highschool basketball scene a lot and try to do my duty by bringing back what I see to these boards, if I lived in Philly I'd probably be raving or chastising amile Jefferson if I lived in Chicago I'd be doing the same for Jabari Parker. Im just delivering what I'm able too, nothin more nothin less.
Ok your not high on Lawrence but meanwhile the bigger schools are after him as opposed to Severe.
How do you rank the NYC kids of 2013?
Side note I've seen Severe 3 times and have not come away wishing we had him. Maybe its based on who we should already have on roster at that point. 13 class points to all signs of probably replacing a big man or two. Guard wise we seem to be set more.
The bigger schools will start coming for Severe. I know Pitt loves him.. I hear you on him not showing out in some games.. But Ctk was Calhoun's team.. Wait til next year.
Calhoun sucked most games I saw too :)
Preaching to the choir my friend.. Not a huge Calhoun fan myself.. But it was his team :)
Calhoun was super -duper overrated. Reinhardt owned him
-
Severe , Domingo?
Stop with Severe :)
Too good to be true? Lol
Haha
We just haven't been mentioned with him at all. I know things change. But again its that city player shine that is blinding you a bit.
I know we haven't been mentioned with him but I feel if there are any legit ones in our own backyard why not snag them? That was the beautiful thing with moe. When this program was at its peak it was taking the best kids from the area ; mullin, Jackson , artest and going to final fours. I often speak about the decline the city is on and how there are very very few kids that are even big east talents. I'm high on severe because he's a player while on the contrary I'm not so much on Lawrence and hall so to say its city bias isn't the truth. I'm around the highschool basketball scene a lot and try to do my duty by bringing back what I see to these boards, if I lived in Philly I'd probably be raving or chastising amile Jefferson if I lived in Chicago I'd be doing the same for Jabari Parker. Im just delivering what I'm able too, nothin more nothin less.
Ok your not high on Lawrence but meanwhile the bigger schools are after him as opposed to Severe.
How do you rank the NYC kids of 2013?
Side note I've seen Severe 3 times and have not come away wishing we had him. Maybe its based on who we should already have on roster at that point. 13 class points to all signs of probably replacing a big man or two. Guard wise we seem to be set more.
I agree with you in terms of if we land rysheed Jordan, but if we don't I would "hope" the staff takes a look at severe if not Sina. And a bunch of big schools have been mentioned with severe moose, Florida being the latest. It's a matter of how Lawrence's game will translate. He's 6'9 210. He's a twig, who went from playing low level competition to lower level competition. I do think he has potential but Needs a lot of work. He dosent even play on the big time circuit he runs with positive direction in the mid-major aau events. I posted 2 videos of him on his thread and aside from a few blocks and dunks against 5'10 kids you'll see how much polish this kid needs. He's a poor mans Chris McCullough
2013 in NYC is extremely weak
2013
Jordan Washington
Jon severe
Terrence Samuel
Jermaine
Shane rector
Hassan
#35687433) isaiah Lewis
You posted two vids of Lawrence but there are many others where he looks damn good. Good post moves from him. Not your typical 6'9 guy that wants to cherry pick.
We agree on Lewis ranking. I think I had him at 35687434 actually. :)
I'm actually not so much in love with the Jordan recruitment either. I'm on record saying I wanted 13 to be Lawrence and Domingo. CMac would throw a wrench into that. We just haven't heard much from the earlier 13 targets like Sina, Anya, Wainright now, etc...
-
Severe , Domingo?
Stop with Severe :)
Too good to be true? Lol
Haha
We just haven't been mentioned with him at all. I know things change. But again its that city player shine that is blinding you a bit.
I know we haven't been mentioned with him but I feel if there are any legit ones in our own backyard why not snag them? That was the beautiful thing with moe. When this program was at its peak it was taking the best kids from the area ; mullin, Jackson , artest and going to final fours. I often speak about the decline the city is on and how there are very very few kids that are even big east talents. I'm high on severe because he's a player while on the contrary I'm not so much on Lawrence and hall so to say its city bias isn't the truth. I'm around the highschool basketball scene a lot and try to do my duty by bringing back what I see to these boards, if I lived in Philly I'd probably be raving or chastising amile Jefferson if I lived in Chicago I'd be doing the same for Jabari Parker. Im just delivering what I'm able too, nothin more nothin less.
Ok your not high on Lawrence but meanwhile the bigger schools are after him as opposed to Severe.
How do you rank the NYC kids of 2013?
Side note I've seen Severe 3 times and have not come away wishing we had him. Maybe its based on who we should already have on roster at that point. 13 class points to all signs of probably replacing a big man or two. Guard wise we seem to be set more.
I agree with you in terms of if we land rysheed Jordan, but if we don't I would "hope" the staff takes a look at severe if not Sina. And a bunch of big schools have been mentioned with severe moose, Florida being the latest. It's a matter of how Lawrence's game will translate. He's 6'9 210. He's a twig, who went from playing low level competition to lower level competition. I do think he has potential but Needs a lot of work. He dosent even play on the big time circuit he runs with positive direction in the mid-major aau events. I posted 2 videos of him on his thread and aside from a few blocks and dunks against 5'10 kids you'll see how much polish this kid needs. He's a poor mans Chris McCullough
2013 in NYC is extremely weak
2013
Jordan Washington
Jon severe
Terrence Samuel
Jermaine
Shane rector
Hassan
#35687433) isaiah Lewis
You posted two vids of Lawrence but there are many others where he looks damn good. Good post moves from him. Not your typical 6'9 guy that wants to cherry pick.
We agree on Lewis ranking. I think I had him at 35687434 actually. :)
I'm actually not so much in love with the Jordan recruitment either. I'm on record saying I wanted 13 to be Lawrence and Domingo. CMac would throw a wrench into that. We just haven't heard much from the earlier 13 targets like Sina, Anya, Wainright now, etc...
Lol, the videos were meant for the viewer to follow the rest of them to see the whole game. I just started it off by posting the first one.
But Anya is just what the doctor ordered right about now, I'm in favor of domingo over wainwright at this point but wouldn't mind either. Think it was the 13-19 finish or coaches health that scared them away?
-
Severe , Domingo?
Stop with Severe :)
Too good to be true? Lol
Haha
We just haven't been mentioned with him at all. I know things change. But again its that city player shine that is blinding you a bit.
I know we haven't been mentioned with him but I feel if there are any legit ones in our own backyard why not snag them? That was the beautiful thing with moe. When this program was at its peak it was taking the best kids from the area ; mullin, Jackson , artest and going to final fours. I often speak about the decline the city is on and how there are very very few kids that are even big east talents. I'm high on severe because he's a player while on the contrary I'm not so much on Lawrence and hall so to say its city bias isn't the truth. I'm around the highschool basketball scene a lot and try to do my duty by bringing back what I see to these boards, if I lived in Philly I'd probably be raving or chastising amile Jefferson if I lived in Chicago I'd be doing the same for Jabari Parker. Im just delivering what I'm able too, nothin more nothin less.
Ok your not high on Lawrence but meanwhile the bigger schools are after him as opposed to Severe.
How do you rank the NYC kids of 2013?
Side note I've seen Severe 3 times and have not come away wishing we had him. Maybe its based on who we should already have on roster at that point. 13 class points to all signs of probably replacing a big man or two. Guard wise we seem to be set more.
I agree with you in terms of if we land rysheed Jordan, but if we don't I would "hope" the staff takes a look at severe if not Sina. And a bunch of big schools have been mentioned with severe moose, Florida being the latest. It's a matter of how Lawrence's game will translate. He's 6'9 210. He's a twig, who went from playing low level competition to lower level competition. I do think he has potential but Needs a lot of work. He dosent even play on the big time circuit he runs with positive direction in the mid-major aau events. I posted 2 videos of him on his thread and aside from a few blocks and dunks against 5'10 kids you'll see how much polish this kid needs. He's a poor mans Chris McCullough
2013 in NYC is extremely weak
2013
Jordan Washington
Jon severe
Terrence Samuel
Jermaine
Shane rector
Hassan
#35687433) isaiah Lewis
You posted two vids of Lawrence but there are many others where he looks damn good. Good post moves from him. Not your typical 6'9 guy that wants to cherry pick.
We agree on Lewis ranking. I think I had him at 35687434 actually. :)
I'm actually not so much in love with the Jordan recruitment either. I'm on record saying I wanted 13 to be Lawrence and Domingo. CMac would throw a wrench into that. We just haven't heard much from the earlier 13 targets like Sina, Anya, Wainright now, etc...
Lol, the videos were meant for the viewer to follow the rest of them to see the whole game. I just started it off by posting the first one.
But Anya is just what the doctor ordered right about now, I'm in favor of domingo over wainwright at this point but wouldn't mind either. Think it was the 13-19 finish or coaches health that scared them away?
I think the focus on wrapping up 2012 has maybe made some recruits forget about us.
-
As much as I'd love Anya, staff isn't recruiting in the DC area. They are sticking to the waters they know. I've tried since last year to get them on Anya.
Lawrence is the real deal. Can't remember if I posted this from the spring but he was at Hoop Group Top 100. #49
Hoop Group Brings Out Best Ballers in New York City for Elite Top 100 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ecLi7pCbXtY#ws)
-
As much as I love Sina he's not Rysheed Jordan. Sina will need a system to be effective while Jordan is a big time playmaker. Jordan is going to have a long long list of suitors. I wouldn't downplay Temple one bit for his services due to location, conference, and sneaker deal.
Good old Under Armour. I still think there will be a day when they are equals to Nike.
Ya know it Moose. I want SJ's to sign on to UA badly so both my squad are g-ed up. Dave's Hoop Group luvs UA - he he he
-
As much as I love Sina he's not Rysheed Jordan. Sina will need a system to be effective while Jordan is a big time playmaker. Jordan is going to have a long long list of suitors. I wouldn't downplay Temple one bit for his services due to location, conference, and sneaker deal.
Temple joining the Beast did not help SJ's or MD's cause with Rysheed.
-
As much as I'd love Anya, staff isn't recruiting in the DC area. They are sticking to the waters they know. I've tried since last year to get them on Anya.
Lawrence is the real deal. Can't remember if I posted this from the spring but he was at Hoop Group Top 100. #49
Hoop Group Brings Out Best Ballers in New York City for Elite Top 100 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ecLi7pCbXtY#ws)
Anya got schooled by smaller and quicker Paul VI players like Coleman Johnson and then awesome frosh Markus Derrickson. I badly want MD to get Derrickson.
Yes, the staff reached out last year, but unless there's a player that really wants to come up to NY Metro area, it might be a hard road to ride on. Then again, if Anya goes to Cuse cuz of MooMoo, I'd counter with 100 reasons why SJ's is better next season and seasons to come. Especially with B retiring in 2 years.
-
As much as I'd love Anya, staff isn't recruiting in the DC area. They are sticking to the waters they know. I've tried since last year to get them on Anya.
Lawrence is the real deal. Can't remember if I posted this from the spring but he was at Hoop Group Top 100. #49
Hoop Group Brings Out Best Ballers in New York City for Elite Top 100 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ecLi7pCbXtY#ws)
Anya got schooled by smaller and quicker Paul VI players like Coleman Johnson and then awesome frosh Markus Derrickson. I badly want MD to get Derrickson.
Yes, the staff reached out last year, but unless there's a player that really wants to come up to NY Metro area, it might be a hard road to ride on. Then again, if Anya goes to Cuse cuz of MooMoo, I'd counter with 100 reasons why SJ's is better next season and seasons to come. Especially with B retiring in 2 years.
Gimme guys like Jakarr, Sanchez, Lawrence, McCullough and we have absolutely no need for Anya. I think Lawrence and McCullough are our SF/PF combo of the future. Two huge priorities and both are high on Lavs and SJU. The future is extremely bright. This 2012 class will be a LOT better than anybody expected and the truth is that this might be one of our weaker recruiting years if that is possible. Very exciting times...
-
This 2012 class will be a LOT better than anybody expected and the truth is that this might be one of our weaker recruiting years if that is possible.
Seriously - we have one player committed right now, how can you say this..? You really must have some inside information that no one else has...
Not saying you can't be be correct in the end but to declare something like" this might be one of our weaker recruiting years" is a bit ridiculous.
-
This 2012 class will be a LOT better than anybody expected and the truth is that this might be one of our weaker recruiting years if that is possible.
Seriously - we have one player committed right now, how can you say this..? You really must have some inside information that no one else has...
Not saying you can't be be correct in the end but to declare something like" this might be one of our weaker recruiting years" is a bit ridiculous.
Two - Balamou and Jakarr (not counting Branch). Also, some would have us believe that Sanchez and Bourgault have already committed, but are just waiting to make it public.
-
This 2012 class will be a LOT better than anybody expected and the truth is that this might be one of our weaker recruiting years if that is possible.
Seriously - we have one player committed right now, how can you say this..? You really must have some inside information that no one else has...
Not saying you can't be be correct in the end but to declare something like" this might be one of our weaker recruiting years" is a bit ridiculous.
Two - Balamou and Jakarr (not counting Branch). Also, some would have us believe that Sanchez and Bourgault have already committed, but are just waiting to make it public.
I am including Branch who will suit up for this class. With those 3 alone we have 2 top 50 kids there. I think we''ll still land 3 more.
-
This 2012 class will be a LOT better than anybody expected and the truth is that this might be one of our weaker recruiting years if that is possible.
Seriously - we have one player committed right now, how can you say this..? You really must have some inside information that no one else has...
Not saying you can't be be correct in the end but to declare something like" this might be one of our weaker recruiting years" is a bit ridiculous.
Hey, this is Lavin recruiting we're talking about. In the 2001 HS recruiting class, he landed the #18, #28, #39 and #100 players in the RSCI (Ced Bozeman, Dijon Thompson, Andre Patterson & Mike Fey). Two of them reached the NBA, the other two were both 15pt/7 rebound players in the NBDL. Of the years he's had more than 2 rides to give, that remains his WORST recruiting class. It was ALMOST his best. He'd also locked up #4 Tyson Chandler that year, but it turned out he had eligibility issues dating from his sophmore year of AAU ball - he had to go pro instead. And Steve also had a verbal from a Euro guard. But late eligibility issues came up there as well (club team payments to TEAMMATES made his amature status questoinable), and Frances Tony Parker went pro to San Antonio instead. Ah, the vagaries of coaching and recruiting - If THAT class had arrived complete, what are the odds Steve is fired 2 years later, and that St. Johns has him now?
(He's had 3 years in which he had only 1 scholarship player added. Jason Kapono in '99 was ranked #10, TJ Cummings in 2000 was ranked #28, and Trevor Ariza in 2003 was ranked #19 ---- Steve does well with limited resources, too!)
-
From ESPN Rumor Central. No mention of STJ
ESPNU Super 60 point guard Rysheed Jordan (Philadelphia, Pa./Vaux Roberts) may not have officially whittled down his list of schools, but the Gary Payton-clone tells The Baltimore Sun that six schools are showing the most interest: Maryland, Temple, Villanova, Seton Hall, La Salle and Drexel.
-
From ESPN Rumor Central. No mention of STJ
ESPNU Super 60 point guard Rysheed Jordan (Philadelphia, Pa./Vaux Roberts) may not have officially whittled down his list of schools, but the Gary Payton-clone tells The Baltimore Sun that six schools are showing the most interest: Maryland, Temple, Villanova, Seton Hall, La Salle and Drexel.
Hope this changes
-
Sure sounds like he wants to stay in Philly. As Dave said he was at numerous Temple games this year.
I mean a few weeks ago he said not only SJU was recruiting him hard but Kansas was as well. Now he includes a lower level A-10 school (LaSalle) and a Colonial school (Drexel).
-
Here is the Baltimore Sun article:
http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/recruiting-blog/bal-insidemdsports-philly-point-guard-rysheed-jordan-eyes-july-commitment-20120327,0,1508139.story (http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/recruiting-blog/bal-insidemdsports-philly-point-guard-rysheed-jordan-eyes-july-commitment-20120327,0,1508139.story)
-
“@TheRecruitScoop: Temple hosted 2013's Rondae Jefferson of Team Final (PA) & Rysheed Jordan of PTP (PA) for unofficial visits today.”
-
Think this ship has sailed
http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1352519 (http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1352519)
College programs definitely know who the kid is. Temple, La Salle, Drexel, Pittsburgh, Kansas, Alabama, Virginia, Villanova, Seton Hall and Penn State have all been involved
-
Think this ship has sailed
http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1352519 (http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1352519)
College programs definitely know who the kid is. Temple, La Salle, Drexel, Pittsburgh, Kansas, Alabama, Virginia, Villanova, Seton Hall and Penn State have all been involved
Uuy
For sure! Not the end of the world, but with Wainwright fading and this, a bit disappointing.
-
Think this ship has sailed
http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1352519 (http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1352519)
College programs definitely know who the kid is. Temple, La Salle, Drexel, Pittsburgh, Kansas, Alabama, Virginia, Villanova, Seton Hall and Penn State have all been involved
I really really hope not, maybe we've just been focused on 2012 that not much noise is being made with the 2013 targets
-
Think this ship has sailed
http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1352519 (http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1352519)
College programs definitely know who the kid is. Temple, La Salle, Drexel, Pittsburgh, Kansas, Alabama, Virginia, Villanova, Seton Hall and Penn State have all been involved
I really really hope not, maybe we've just been focused on 2012 that not much noise is being made with the 2013 targets
Our performance in 2012 will bring all these guys back.
-
Think this ship has sailed
http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1352519 (http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1352519)
College programs definitely know who the kid is. Temple, La Salle, Drexel, Pittsburgh, Kansas, Alabama, Virginia, Villanova, Seton Hall and Penn State have all been involved
I really really hope not, maybe we've just been focused on 2012 that not much noise is being made with the 2013 targets
Our performance in 2012 will bring all these guys back.
Hopefully i'm too stubborn to give up on him
-
Goodman and Jefferson also referenced.
“@TheRecruitScoop: Five for Friday - The Recruit Scoop answers five questions regarding the Philadelphia (PA) recruiting scene - http://t.co/7fnaXPgK (http://t.co/7fnaXPgK)”
-
Goodman and Jefferson also referenced.
“@TheRecruitScoop: Five for Friday - The Recruit Scoop answers five questions regarding the Philadelphia (PA) recruiting scene - http://t.co/7fnaXPgK (http://t.co/7fnaXPgK)”
Yeah. Kline insists SJU still in it although he says Maryland and Georgetown probably lead for his services right now. Thinks he will end up at Georgetown, Maryland or SJU:
IS RYSHEED JORDAN HEADING TO THE STATE OF MARYLAND?
From one Philadelphia native staying in-state to another who may be leaving to head to the ACC or Big East, 2013 6-foot-4 Vaux Roberts (PA) point guard Rysheed Jordan is in a Maryland state of mind. The Terrapins and Georgetown Hoyas appear to be the unofficial leaders for the extremely talented guard, who is playing with Philly Pride this spring. Jordan has taken two unofficial visits to Maryland and has been on the Georgetown campus once. Both schools have been extremely active in his recruitment along with St. John's and NC State. An extremely fast-paced player with a great basketball IQ and ability to distribute the ball and score, Jordan has plans of making a college decision sometime in July, possibly before the Live Period begins. Look for the No. 12 player in the Rivals150 for the class of 2013 to wind up at either Georgetown, Maryland or St. John's in the end.
-
Goodman and Jefferson also referenced.
“@TheRecruitScoop: Five for Friday - The Recruit Scoop answers five questions regarding the Philadelphia (PA) recruiting scene - http://t.co/7fnaXPgK (http://t.co/7fnaXPgK)”
Yeah. Kline insists SJU still in it although he says Maryland and Georgetown probably lead for his services right now. Thinks he will end up at Georgetown, Maryland or SJU:
IS RYSHEED JORDAN HEADING TO THE STATE OF MARYLAND?
From one Philadelphia native staying in-state to another who may be leaving to head to the ACC or Big East, 2013 6-foot-4 Vaux Roberts (PA) point guard Rysheed Jordan is in a Maryland state of mind. The Terrapins and Georgetown Hoyas appear to be the unofficial leaders for the extremely talented guard, who is playing with Philly Pride this spring. Jordan has taken two unofficial visits to Maryland and has been on the Georgetown campus once. Both schools have been extremely active in his recruitment along with St. John's and NC State. An extremely fast-paced player with a great basketball IQ and ability to distribute the ball and score, Jordan has plans of making a college decision sometime in July, possibly before the Live Period begins. Look for the No. 12 player in the Rivals150 for the class of 2013 to wind up at either Georgetown, Maryland or St. John's in the end.
Bottom line is Rysheed's a city kid at heart. Once Temple signed on to the Beast, they became even more of a likely destination after Rysheed's prolly 20+ unofficial visits. Turgeon is pushing hard, and I hope it'll be the Harrison twins or Sheed and Stan Robinson for the Terps. I want Calipari to feel the double sting of losing the twins similar to losing Bazz.
The good news is SJ's and MD are in the running because the article stated what we knew - he doesn't want to be far from home and mom. The 2 hour drive is perfect for NYC and DMV. KU is out but a nice gesture from BS - ha ha ha
-
“@TheRecruitScoop: Some of the top 2013's, 2014's & 2015's in Pennsylvania played at the All-City Classic. Here's a free recap - http://t.co/Z1VXnv3w (http://t.co/Z1VXnv3w)”
Md., as suggested in previous post, is working hard to land Jordan, but SJU still noted.
-
He still lists SJU and says he will cut list down later this summer. Still hearing Maryland heavy favorite for him.
http://www.zagsblog.com/2012/07/12/rysheed-jordan-to-cut-list-this-summer/ (http://www.zagsblog.com/2012/07/12/rysheed-jordan-to-cut-list-this-summer/)
-
I'd love nothing more than for the Harrisons to pick Maryland. I think it would probably eliminate Md. from Rysheed's top spot if that is indeed the case right now. My wish list for 13' is Rysheed Jordan and either Jermaine Lawrence or Jarrell Martin, although rumors about Martin's academics concern me.
-
He still lists SJU and says he will cut list down later this summer. Still hearing Maryland heavy favorite for him.
http://www.zagsblog.com/2012/07/12/rysheed-jordan-to-cut-list-this-summer/ (http://www.zagsblog.com/2012/07/12/rysheed-jordan-to-cut-list-this-summer/)
I hear Temple, Maryland and Xavier are strongest.
-
He still lists SJU and says he will cut list down later this summer. Still hearing Maryland heavy favorite for him.
http://www.zagsblog.com/2012/07/12/rysheed-jordan-to-cut-list-this-summer/ (http://www.zagsblog.com/2012/07/12/rysheed-jordan-to-cut-list-this-summer/)
I hear Temple, Maryland and Xavier are strongest.
Same
-
Anyone?
“@NYCHoops: http://t.co/yR16g2tN (http://t.co/yR16g2tN) - Rysheed Jordan on #StJohns http://t.co/HoCBUqpp (http://t.co/HoCBUqpp) #STJBB #redstorm #bigeast #boyshoops #LivePeriod #rivals #reebok”
-
Anyone?
“@NYCHoops: http://t.co/yR16g2tN (http://t.co/yR16g2tN) - Rysheed Jordan on #StJohns http://t.co/HoCBUqpp (http://t.co/HoCBUqpp) #STJBB #redstorm #bigeast #boyshoops #LivePeriod #rivals #reebok”
Not a good article IMO. I was lukewarm on Jordan's interest and reading this confirms that. Here is a highlight of what he said-
In fact, Jordan told RedStormReport.com on Thursday at the Reebok Breakout Challenge that Lavin is the Red Storm's point man in his recruitment.
"I've talked to him here and there," Jordan said of coach Lavin. "He seems like he's a cool dude."
Jordan said that St. John's has been pursuing him for quite some time now and he touched on the recruiting pitch he is hearing from Lavin and Co.
"How I'd fit their offense," Jordan said. "They just say-basically [all the schools] say the same thing."
Jordan confirmed that he is indeed interested in the Big East program and would be open to take a visit to the campus in the Big Apple. However, he still is somewhat unfamiliar with the school.
"I don't really know too much," Jordan said of St. Johns, "but I had seen them play on TV."
Asked if he knows any of the players on the team, Jordan replied, "No, not sure. I knew Nurideen Lindsey, but he's not there no more."
-
Know Temple has been working hard to get him. Thanks Moose! Agree w your sentiments. IMO, not a great loss. It is nice to have so little to fill and many options.
-
In AC
“@bosworthhoops: Rysheed Jordan is the best player on the court right now and he knows it. In complete control. #LiveinAC”
“@NYPost_Brazille: Rutgers (Mike Rice), Syracuse, St. John's, Seton Hall (Kevin Willard), Florda State (Leonard Hamilton) all here taking it in. #boyshoops”
Whitehead also in AC
-
“@DanielJMartin_: Rysheed Jordan drops 22 points, outplays Rondae Jefferson for much of the night, and leads Philly Pride to a win over Team Final.”
-
Who was there for us watching Jordan & Whitehead
-
Who was there for us watching Jordan & Whitehead
Yes, not sure who.
Could be new "deputized assistant". Zach B noted presence 3 posts above.
“@NYCHoops: RT @bosworthhoops: UCLA, St Johns, Miami, Rutgers, FSU, Baylor, Temple, Nova, lots more here for Final and Philly Pride. #LiveinAC #stjbb” Jordan's team.
-
SJU not listed,but know they are interested. IMO, Temple is team to beat. We will see.
Severe also referenced. He has nice group of schools. GW allegedly pursuing him the hardest.
“@NBESports: 'Live in AC' report from Day 1 features Rysheed Jordan, Ben Bentil, Miles Overton, Jon Severe, BJ Johnson & more:... http://t.co/721wAhBs (http://t.co/721wAhBs)”
-
Kline mentions Jordan, noting we are aggressively in pursuit along w myriad of others.
“@TheRecruitScoop: My recap from day one of Live In AC on The Recruit Scoop - http://t.co/bnHey3W9 (http://t.co/bnHey3W9)”
-
“@DanielJMartin_: Rysheed Jordan says he'll cut his list in the coming days, will make college decision closer to/during the school season. #LiveInAC”
-
I still get the feeling that we're not nearly out of it with him. Time will tell.
-
I still get the feeling that we're not nearly out of it with him. Time will tell.
I think the key maybe Maryland and Roddy Peters. bball mentioned this on the other site and I believe he has a point. If Maryland decides to focus on Peters as their 2013 PG target then I think SJU could very well become a player among others for Rysheed.
-
I still get the feeling that we're not nearly out of it with him. Time will tell.
Should he be our #1 target?
-
I still get the feeling that we're not nearly out of it with him. Time will tell.
Should he be our #1 target?
No 4/5 should
-
I still get the feeling that we're not nearly out of it with him. Time will tell.
Should he be our #1 target?
No 4/5 should
Who do you like ahead of him? Lawrence, Martin and who else
-
I still get the feeling that we're not nearly out of it with him. Time will tell.
Should he be our #1 target?
No 4/5 should
Who do you like ahead of him? Lawrence, Martin and who else
Those two pretty much. I'm on record wanting Martin as priority 1, Lawrence 2.
-
Agree - those are priorities one and two.
-
I think our clear priorities are BOTH Rysheed Jordan and either Lawrence or Martin. Don't overlook Rysheed Jordan. He's going to be a pro. He has the size and athleticism and if we can land him it would be a coup. I really think we could lose Harrison after this season to try out for the pros. Jordan would give us a blue-chip PG/SG to replace Harrison. I think Jordan is an equally important target as the two frontcourt guys we're after. All are blue-chippers and if we could land a stud like Jordan in the backcourt and either Lawrence or Martin, we'll be doing big things.
-
I think our clear priorities are BOTH Rysheed Jordan and either Lawrence or Martin. Don't overlook Rysheed Jordan. He's going to be a pro. He has the size and athleticism and if we can land him it would be a coup. I really think we could lose Harrison after this season to try out for the pros. Jordan would give us a blue-chip PG/SG to replace Harrison. I think Jordan is an equally important target as the two frontcourt guys we're after. All are blue-chippers and if we could land a stud like Jordan in the backcourt and either Lawrence or Martin, we'll be doing big things.
+1
If we end up with 2 openings, which I think we will - don't know how (D'angelo goes pro, a transfer, who knows) .. but if we end up with 2 open scholarships and fill them with Martin/Lawrence and Jordan; that would be unbelievable.
And like you say, set us up for very big things.
-
I think our clear priorities are BOTH Rysheed Jordan and either Lawrence or Martin. Don't overlook Rysheed Jordan. He's going to be a pro. He has the size and athleticism and if we can land him it would be a coup. I really think we could lose Harrison after this season to try out for the pros. Jordan would give us a blue-chip PG/SG to replace Harrison. I think Jordan is an equally important target as the two frontcourt guys we're after. All are blue-chippers and if we could land a stud like Jordan in the backcourt and either Lawrence or Martin, we'll be doing big things.
+1
If we end up with 2 openings, which I think we will - don't know how (D'angelo goes pro, a transfer, who knows) .. but if we end up with 2 open scholarships and fill them with Martin/Lawrence and Jordan; that would be unbelievable.
And like you say, set us up for very big things.
Or would take Martin Lawrence for the comedic effect. :)
-
On his twitter he wrote that he was thinking about committing somewhere tomorrow.
-
On his twitter he wrote that he was thinking about committing somewhere tomorrow.
“@InsidetheShell1: For all those wondering I think Rysheed Jordan will pick Temple. I don't think he gets outta Philly. Terps have Peters and Twins on radar”
-
On his twitter he wrote that he was thinking about committing somewhere tomorrow.
“@InsidetheShell1: For all those wondering I think Rysheed Jordan will pick Temple. I don't think he gets outta Philly. Terps have Peters and Twins on radar”
Not so fast. Evan Daniels of scout just talked to his AAU coach and they are looking to cut his list to 7:
Rysheed Jordan is close to cutting down his college list.
Travel team coach Kamal Yard, of Philly Pride, said Maryland, Temple, Villanova, Xavier, Rutgers, UCLA, Connecticut and St. John’s have all offered Jordan, a standout at Philadelphia (Pa.) Vaux Roberts, a scholarship.
“Everything still stands as the same in terms of the all the schools that are recruiting him,” Yard told Scout.com.
“We are in the process of getting him to cut that list down to seven schools or less,” he added. “That’s one of the things that we are doing currently.”
http://scouthoops.scout.com/ (http://scouthoops.scout.com/)
-
We have as good as shot as anyone if he decides to leave his hometown. With that said, I still think he goes Temple.
-
We have as good as shot as anyone if he decides to leave his hometown. With that said, I still think he goes Temple.
Agree completely w Temple.
-
Josh Brown re-upped with Temple today. Hard to believe he did so if he honestly thought Jordan was headed there as well.
-
Hope Harrison's go to Md., hopefully helping our chances with Jordan.
-
Josh Brown re-upped with Temple today. Hard to believe he did so if he honestly thought Jordan was headed there as well.
Re-upped? Was he a free agent?
-
Josh Brown re-upped with Temple today. Hard to believe he did so if he honestly thought Jordan was headed there as well.
Re-upped? Was he a free agent?
Restricted FA. Rights to match ;)
-
Zags latest;
Rysheed Jordan has set official visits to UCLA and Maryland, his AAU coach told SNY.tv Wednesday.
The 6-foot-4 point guard from Philly Vaux Roberts will trip to UCLA Sept. 22-24 and to Maryland Oct. 12-14 for their Midnight Madness, Kamal Yard said.
Yard said Jordan is considering UCLA, Maryland, Syracuse, Temple and Rutgers at this point.
“As of right now, we’re talking with Syracuse a lot lately,” he said. “That’s up in the air.”
Syracuse also has a commitment from 2013 St. Benedict’s Prep point guard Tyler Ennis.
Yard said Jordan likely wouldn’t end up taking five official visits.
“I think it’s going to be about three and that’s it,” he said.
-
Doomed
-
Doomed
Not worried but it is a little disappointing. From his interview with Alex Kline in July it does sound like SJU has not been pursuing him and maybe there just is not a lot of interest.
But PG is not a priority anyway.
-
Doomed
Not worried but it is a little disappointing. From his interview with Alex Kline in July it does sound like SJU has not been pursuing him and maybe there just is not a lot of interest.
But PG is not a priority anyway.
I was being sarcastic to be honest.
And I never felt good about his recruitment honestly. I don't see us getting anyone in November. If anything we get a 14 kid. I think we swoop in during the spring and get our 1 or 2 targets from 13
-
Doomed
Not worried but it is a little disappointing. From his interview with Alex Kline in July it does sound like SJU has not been pursuing him and maybe there just is not a lot of interest.
But PG is not a priority anyway.
I was being sarcastic to be honest.
And I never felt good about his recruitment honestly. I don't see us getting anyone in November. If anything we get a 14 kid. I think we swoop in during the spring and get our 1 or 2 targets from 13
Oh I knew you were being sarcastic I was agreeing that we "are not doomed" but I like the kid to be honest.
-
Do we know exactly when we relaxed on his recruitment? Maybe Branch got an assurance that we wouldn't recruit a point guard for 2013?
-
Do we know exactly when we relaxed on his recruitment? Maybe Branch got an assurance that we wouldn't recruit a point guard for 2013?
Intersting. Rysheed is Scouts #49 ranked prospect, and #10 ranked PG. But he's taking an official to UCLA, who already have a 2013 committment from Zach Lavine - Scouts #24 ranked prospect, and #5 ranked PG....
-
Josh Brown re-upped with Temple today. Hard to believe he did so if he honestly thought Jordan was headed there as well.
They could play with each other.
I really don't see Rysheed leaving Philly area.
-
Excellent defender.. Just saw a game of him online, if he teams up with John brown that's a nice backourt
-
“@TheRecruitScoop: 2013 Vaux (PA) PG Rysheed Jordan will be working out in front of UCLA, St. John's, Syracuse & Rutgers today.”
-
“@AdamZagoria: 2013 PG Rysheed Jordan will take an official visit to #Stjbb this weekend, source tells @SNYtv”
-
“@AdamZagoria: Jordan to Visit St. John's; Lavin Visits Wainright http://t.co/XtxHzNsW (http://t.co/XtxHzNsW) #stjbb”
-
Video from Nate blog;
“@Nateblueis4real: Rysheed Jordan, Adam Morrison, Rodney Purvis, Aquille Carr, and Mike Moser http://t.co/iEttQda5 (http://t.co/iEttQda5)”
-
Big to get an official visit. I really want to see this kid at SJU. Until now not sure it was possible recently. Kid is the goods. Iversonesque type of game. Would be a star at SJU with the other players we have. C'mon Lavs, A, B, C...
-
“@AdamZagoria: Jordan to Visit St. John's; Lavin Visits Wainright http://t.co/XtxHzNsW (http://t.co/XtxHzNsW) #stjbb”
Okay - am I misreading the Zags story - Rasheed will be at ST Johns this Weekend for "Dribble for the Cure", but also says he has an Official at UCLA set for Sept. 22-24?
-
“@AdamZagoria: Jordan to Visit St. John's; Lavin Visits Wainright http://t.co/XtxHzNsW (http://t.co/XtxHzNsW) #stjbb”
Okay - am I misreading the Zags story - Rasheed will be at ST Johns this Weekend for "Dribble for the Cure", but also says he has an Official at UCLA set for Sept. 22-24?
Zags article says UCLA visit is 28-30th, the following weekend.
-
CR was right. I tweeted Zags and he changed it.
“@AdamZagoria: @rgsaunders1 It's been fixed. UCLA visit is Sept. 28-30.”
-
@sheedjordan: I'm visting st John friday
-
@sheedjordan: I'm visting st John friday
St. John Fisher? :)
-
I didn't think we had a shot. Would be great to land a long super althetic PG. We could have a lockdown D backcourt.
-
Some Rysheed at :54
Rondae Jefferson VS Rysheed Jordan - The Battle for Philly (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dsz0Pm0adyQ#ws)
-
Some more
Rysheed Jordan makes it look easy @ Reebok Showdown Series (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iV9-FeiJ2xU#)
-
“@sheedjordan: On my way to visted st John college”
-
“@sheedjordan: On my way to visted st John college”
Considering he doesn't even know the correct name of the school I doubt he comes here. Just a gut feeling.
-
LMAO +1
-
“@sheedjordan: On my way to visted st John college”
Considering he doesn't even know the correct name of the school I doubt he comes here. Just a gut feeling.
Lol... Lavin can close, even on kids that don't know the name of the school.
-
Was it P. Nolan who committed to UConn without ever visiting the place? Now I thought that was unreal.
-
Was it P. Nolan who committed to UConn without ever visiting the place? Now I thought that was unreal.
I thought that was absurd as well. I remember others on the board didn't think it was that strange. But, how do you just commit to a school without even meeting the coach?
-
If I'm a C student and Harvard calls to offer me an academic scholarship, I'm not gonna wait to meet the Dean.
-
“@NYPost_Brazille: A few #stjbb players raved about Rysheed Jordan, the Philly PG taking an official visit. #boyshoops”
-
I'm told he rather enjoyed his breakfast
-
Would absolutely love to get a commit from this kid. Would be huge for us.
-
Just came back from dribble for the cure and Rysheed was enjoying himself. The players were saying that he is really good. Kid is really tall and hopefully we can land him. I was blown away by the overall team size today. We don't have any 7 footers.. But damn near the whole team is in that 6'6 to 6'9 range.
-
Just came back from dribble for the cure and Rysheed was enjoying himself. The players were saying that he is really good. Kid is really tall and hopefully we can land him. I was blown away by the overall team size today. We don't have any 7 footers.. But damn near the whole team is in that 6'6 to 6'9 range.
That's how coach likes to roll with lots of interchangeable players from both a size and skill level.
-
Some Rysheed at :54
Rondae Jefferson VS Rysheed Jordan - The Battle for Philly (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dsz0Pm0adyQ#ws)
Who's the coach in the white St Johns t-shirt, like 20 seconds into the video?
-
https://twitter.com/sheedjordan/status/249639475985129472
Seems to be enjoying himself
-
Some Rysheed at :54
Rondae Jefferson VS Rysheed Jordan - The Battle for Philly (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dsz0Pm0adyQ#ws)
Who's the coach in the white St Johns t-shirt, like 20 seconds into the video?
http://www.redstormsports.com/sports/m-baskbl/mtt/wrobel_derrick00.html (http://www.redstormsports.com/sports/m-baskbl/mtt/wrobel_derrick00.html)
Derrick Wrobel
-
Some Rysheed at :54
Rondae Jefferson VS Rysheed Jordan - The Battle for Philly (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dsz0Pm0adyQ#ws)
Who's the coach in the white St Johns t-shirt, like 20 seconds into the video?
http://www.redstormsports.com/sports/m-baskbl/mtt/wrobel_derrick00.html (http://www.redstormsports.com/sports/m-baskbl/mtt/wrobel_derrick00.html)
Gotcha, thanks JJ.
Derrick Wrobel
-
anyone concerned that he seems to be friends with Nuri? i'm not sure how to feel.
-
anyone concerned that he seems to be friends with Nuri? i'm not sure how to feel.
All these kids are 'friends' of someone.
Being that Nuri's beef was with Dunlap I don't see an issue.
-
Feedback on visit;
“@AdamZagoria: Rysheed Jordan Visits St. John's, UCLA Up Next http://t.co/S0zwyK40 (http://t.co/S0zwyK40)”
-
“@NYPost_Brazille: Rysheed Jordan advisor Rodney Vinny tells me St. John's has "emerged" in Philly PG's eyes after visit. #stjbb”
“@NYPost_Brazille: Jordan camps expects him to commit sometime before new year and St. John's is one of schools he's considering. #stjbb”
-
“@NYPost_Brazille: Rysheed Jordan advisor Rodney Vinny tells me St. John's has "emerged" in Philly PG's eyes after visit. #stjbb”
“@NYPost_Brazille: Jordan camps expects him to commit sometime before new year and St. John's is one of schools he's considering. #stjbb”
Great to hear. Still amazes me what Lavin and Co. have done in such a short time frame. They seem to have a legitimate shot at any recruit they think is attainable.
-
I think the addition of Martin will have a profound impact on our recruitment of point guards going forward. You can't fake your way through 12 years of NBA experience!
-
“@NYPost_Brazille: Rysheed Jordan advisor Rodney Vinny tells me St. John's has "emerged" in Philly PG's eyes after visit. #stjbb”
“@NYPost_Brazille: Jordan camps expects him to commit sometime before new year and St. John's is one of schools he's considering. #stjbb”
Great to hear. Still amazes me what Lavin and Co. have done in such a short time frame. They seem to have a legitimate shot at any recruit they think is attainable.
It is worth stating again what many including Dave and kob among others have said previously. Coach does not chase recruits. He is confident enough in both his ability to recruit high level talent and his ability to close that he does not need to go after kids that he does not think he has a realistic shot at landing.
-
“@NYPost_Brazille: Rysheed Jordan advisor Rodney Vinny tells me St. John's has "emerged" in Philly PG's eyes after visit. #stjbb”
“@NYPost_Brazille: Jordan camps expects him to commit sometime before new year and St. John's is one of schools he's considering. #stjbb”
"It has been thought that Maryland and Temple were in the lead for Jordan but it now appears Villanova and $t. John's are clouding the picture. Absolutely no clue where this kid is going to land. UCLA also throwing it's h$t in the ring but it doesnt appear RJ wants to go far away to school. If Roddy Peters lands at Maryland, Jordan likely goes elsewhere. Rumor has it $t. Johns is really increasing its "effort$" under Lavin so they are definitely a wild card here. Jordan does like Temple. He may see a bit of a logjam at Nova but something tells me he is confident enough in his skills to not be sitting the bench wherever he goes."
Quote from a Villanova fan on the rivals board. They are definitely getting a bit nervous no?
-
Hopefully $teve Lavin showed Rysheed the hidden Scrooge McDuck gold vault that him and Mike Repole built on campus.
(http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_litmznMsQa1qc9wlr.jpg)
::) ::)
-
“@NYPost_Brazille: Rysheed Jordan advisor Rodney Vinny tells me St. John's has "emerged" in Philly PG's eyes after visit. #stjbb”
“@NYPost_Brazille: Jordan camps expects him to commit sometime before new year and St. John's is one of schools he's considering. #stjbb”
"It has been thought that Maryland and Temple were in the lead for Jordan but it now appears Villanova and $t. John's are clouding the picture. Absolutely no clue where this kid is going to land. UCLA also throwing it's h$t in the ring but it doesnt appear RJ wants to go far away to school. If Roddy Peters lands at Maryland, Jordan likely goes elsewhere. Rumor has it $t. Johns is really increasing its "effort$" under Lavin so they are definitely a wild card here. Jordan does like Temple. He may see a bit of a logjam at Nova but something tells me he is confident enough in his skills to not be sitting the bench wherever he goes."
Quote from a Villanova fan on the rivals board. They are definitely getting a bit nervous no?
Pot calling the kettle black. Perhaps they forgot about the recruitment of Corey fischer
-
“@NYPost_Brazille: Rysheed Jordan advisor Rodney Vinny tells me St. John's has "emerged" in Philly PG's eyes after visit. #stjbb”
“@NYPost_Brazille: Jordan camps expects him to commit sometime before new year and St. John's is one of schools he's considering. #stjbb”
"It has been thought that Maryland and Temple were in the lead for Jordan but it now appears Villanova and $t. John's are clouding the picture. Absolutely no clue where this kid is going to land. UCLA also throwing it's h$t in the ring but it doesnt appear RJ wants to go far away to school. If Roddy Peters lands at Maryland, Jordan likely goes elsewhere. Rumor has it $t. Johns is really increasing its "effort$" under Lavin so they are definitely a wild card here. Jordan does like Temple. He may see a bit of a logjam at Nova but something tells me he is confident enough in his skills to not be sitting the bench wherever he goes."
Quote from a Villanova fan on the rivals board. They are definitely getting a bit nervous no?
I think UCLA will be out of the picture in about 12 days (either with or without Rysheed). They're likely taking only one more guard commit in this class, and have their top 3 in for official visits the next 2 weekends. Sorta first come, first served. Rysheed, Roddy Peters, and Stevie Clark. Just a hunch, but I think it'll be Clark jumping first - he was ALMOST the 5th signee THIS season, as he tried to reclassify for 2012 when his high school coach left after last season. Rysheed is #41, Peters #49 and Clark #66 in the 2013 RSCI rankings.
-
“@NYPost_Brazille: Rysheed Jordan advisor Rodney Vinny tells me St. John's has "emerged" in Philly PG's eyes after visit. #stjbb”
“@NYPost_Brazille: Jordan camps expects him to commit sometime before new year and St. John's is one of schools he's considering. #stjbb”
"It has been thought that Maryland and Temple were in the lead for Jordan but it now appears Villanova and $t. John's are clouding the picture. Absolutely no clue where this kid is going to land. UCLA also throwing it's h$t in the ring but it doesnt appear RJ wants to go far away to school. If Roddy Peters lands at Maryland, Jordan likely goes elsewhere. Rumor has it $t. Johns is really increasing its "effort$" under Lavin so they are definitely a wild card here. Jordan does like Temple. He may see a bit of a logjam at Nova but something tells me he is confident enough in his skills to not be sitting the bench wherever he goes."
Quote from a Villanova fan on the rivals board. They are definitely getting a bit nervous no?
I think UCLA will be out of the picture in about 12 days (either with or without Rysheed). They're likely taking only one more guard commit in this class, and have their top 3 in for official visits the next 2 weekends. Sorta first come, first served. Rysheed, Roddy Peters, and Stevie Clark. Just a hunch, but I think it'll be Clark jumping first - he was ALMOST the 5th signee THIS season, as he tried to reclassify for 2012 when his high school coach left after last season. Rysheed is #41, Peters #49 and Clark #66 in the 2013 RSCI rankings.
I agree. And I think Peters is going to Maryland if the Harrison twins pop for Kentucky. Leaving Rysheed.
-
“@NYPost_Brazille: Rysheed Jordan advisor Rodney Vinny tells me St. John's has "emerged" in Philly PG's eyes after visit. #stjbb”
“@NYPost_Brazille: Jordan camps expects him to commit sometime before new year and St. John's is one of schools he's considering. #stjbb”
"It has been thought that Maryland and Temple were in the lead for Jordan but it now appears Villanova and $t. John's are clouding the picture. Absolutely no clue where this kid is going to land. UCLA also throwing it's h$t in the ring but it doesnt appear RJ wants to go far away to school. If Roddy Peters lands at Maryland, Jordan likely goes elsewhere. Rumor has it $t. Johns is really increasing its "effort$" under Lavin so they are definitely a wild card here. Jordan does like Temple. He may see a bit of a logjam at Nova but something tells me he is confident enough in his skills to not be sitting the bench wherever he goes."
Quote from a Villanova fan on the rivals board. They are definitely getting a bit nervous no?
I think UCLA will be out of the picture in about 12 days (either with or without Rysheed). They're likely taking only one more guard commit in this class, and have their top 3 in for official visits the next 2 weekends. Sorta first come, first served. Rysheed, Roddy Peters, and Stevie Clark. Just a hunch, but I think it'll be Clark jumping first - he was ALMOST the 5th signee THIS season, as he tried to reclassify for 2012 when his high school coach left after last season. Rysheed is #41, Peters #49 and Clark #66 in the 2013 RSCI rankings.
I agree. And I think Peters is going to Maryland if the Harrison twins pop for Kentucky. Leaving Rysheed.
I have a feeling Maryland gets the Twins.
-
“@NYPost_Brazille: Rysheed Jordan advisor Rodney Vinny tells me St. John's has "emerged" in Philly PG's eyes after visit. #stjbb”
“@NYPost_Brazille: Jordan camps expects him to commit sometime before new year and St. John's is one of schools he's considering. #stjbb”
"It has been thought that Maryland and Temple were in the lead for Jordan but it now appears Villanova and $t. John's are clouding the picture. Absolutely no clue where this kid is going to land. UCLA also throwing it's h$t in the ring but it doesnt appear RJ wants to go far away to school. If Roddy Peters lands at Maryland, Jordan likely goes elsewhere. Rumor has it $t. Johns is really increasing its "effort$" under Lavin so they are definitely a wild card here. Jordan does like Temple. He may see a bit of a logjam at Nova but something tells me he is confident enough in his skills to not be sitting the bench wherever he goes."
Quote from a Villanova fan on the rivals board. They are definitely getting a bit nervous no?
I think UCLA will be out of the picture in about 12 days (either with or without Rysheed). They're likely taking only one more guard commit in this class, and have their top 3 in for official visits the next 2 weekends. Sorta first come, first served. Rysheed, Roddy Peters, and Stevie Clark. Just a hunch, but I think it'll be Clark jumping first - he was ALMOST the 5th signee THIS season, as he tried to reclassify for 2012 when his high school coach left after last season. Rysheed is #41, Peters #49 and Clark #66 in the 2013 RSCI rankings.
I agree. And I think Peters is going to Maryland if the Harrison twins pop for Kentucky. Leaving Rysheed.
I have a feeling Maryland gets the Twins.
Agree, father likes Mark T a lot.
-
They seem UK bound to me.
-
“@NYPost_Brazille: Rysheed Jordan advisor Rodney Vinny tells me St. John's has "emerged" in Philly PG's eyes after visit. #stjbb”
“@NYPost_Brazille: Jordan camps expects him to commit sometime before new year and St. John's is one of schools he's considering. #stjbb”
"It has been thought that Maryland and Temple were in the lead for Jordan but it now appears Villanova and $t. John's are clouding the picture. Absolutely no clue where this kid is going to land. UCLA also throwing it's h$t in the ring but it doesnt appear RJ wants to go far away to school. If Roddy Peters lands at Maryland, Jordan likely goes elsewhere. Rumor has it $t. Johns is really increasing its "effort$" under Lavin so they are definitely a wild card here. Jordan does like Temple. He may see a bit of a logjam at Nova but something tells me he is confident enough in his skills to not be sitting the bench wherever he goes."
Quote from a Villanova fan on the rivals board. They are definitely getting a bit nervous no?
I think UCLA will be out of the picture in about 12 days (either with or without Rysheed). They're likely taking only one more guard commit in this class, and have their top 3 in for official visits the next 2 weekends. Sorta first come, first served. Rysheed, Roddy Peters, and Stevie Clark. Just a hunch, but I think it'll be Clark jumping first - he was ALMOST the 5th signee THIS season, as he tried to reclassify for 2012 when his high school coach left after last season. Rysheed is #41, Peters #49 and Clark #66 in the 2013 RSCI rankings.
I agree. And I think Peters is going to Maryland if the Harrison twins pop for Kentucky. Leaving Rysheed.
I have a feeling Maryland gets the Twins.
I feel that way too
-
Report out that Rysheed has had to postpone his official visit to UCLA this weekend, due to his mothers illness. FWIW.
-
This kid from the last video looks good...like one or two and done good. Talking about #22 from the Ballin 365 video back a few pages. Absurd...absolutely absurd. Wow.
-
Is he playing today in the Nike Philly Vs NY showcase. I am stuck in traffic in NJ I hope he is playing?
-
From the Temple Rivals.com site.
Yard says he is wide open still but that Temple is likely to make his final 5:
The 6-foot-4 senior, who was at Ben Franklin High School Sunday to take part in the All-City Classic that matched up the best high school players from Philadelphia against those from New York, does not appear ready to make a decision as the NCAA's early signing period approaches in mid-November.
"Right now, I'm wide open," Jordan told OwlScoop.com prior to playing in Sunday evening's seniors game. "So, basically, it's Syracuse, St. John's, Alabama, Villanova, Xavier, Temple and some others."
Kamal Yard, Jordan's AAU coach, told OwlScoop.com Sunday even he is attempting to get an answer to that question.
"I think it changes every day in terms of what he wants to do," Yard said. "I think it's hard for him. He's a Philly kid, through and though. He bleeds Philly; he loves it. So in that sense I think it's hard for him to leave, and then there's some days where he says, 'I've got to go.' So everything has been up in the air and he hasn't just been able to figure out exactly what he wants to do, but I think he'll be getting there sooner rather than later."
Jordan is set to visit Syracuse the weekend of Oct. 12 and has already visited St. John's. He had an official visit lined up for UCLA this weekend but had to cancel. http://stjohns.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1416180 (http://stjohns.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1416180)
-
From the Temple Rivals.com site.
Yard says he is wide open still but that Temple is likely to make his final 5:
The 6-foot-4 senior, who was at Ben Franklin High School Sunday to take part in the All-City Classic that matched up the best high school players from Philadelphia against those from New York, does not appear ready to make a decision as the NCAA's early signing period approaches in mid-November.
"Right now, I'm wide open," Jordan told OwlScoop.com prior to playing in Sunday evening's seniors game. "So, basically, it's Syracuse, St. John's, Alabama, Villanova, Xavier, Temple and some others."
Kamal Yard, Jordan's AAU coach, told OwlScoop.com Sunday even he is attempting to get an answer to that question.
"I think it changes every day in terms of what he wants to do," Yard said. "I think it's hard for him. He's a Philly kid, through and though. He bleeds Philly; he loves it. So in that sense I think it's hard for him to leave, and then there's some days where he says, 'I've got to go.' So everything has been up in the air and he hasn't just been able to figure out exactly what he wants to do, but I think he'll be getting there sooner rather than later."
Jordan is set to visit Syracuse the weekend of Oct. 12 and has already visited St. John's. He had an official visit lined up for UCLA this weekend but had to cancel. http://stjohns.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1416180 (http://stjohns.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1416180)
Another kid keeping it close to the vest. I think we have a very good shot, but I don't think any of us will know will direction he's leaning til signing. It's certainly not sooo up in the air if he will be getting to his decision soon.
-
From the Temple Rivals.com site.
Yard says he is wide open still but that Temple is likely to make his final 5:
The 6-foot-4 senior, who was at Ben Franklin High School Sunday to take part in the All-City Classic that matched up the best high school players from Philadelphia against those from New York, does not appear ready to make a decision as the NCAA's early signing period approaches in mid-November.
"Right now, I'm wide open," Jordan told OwlScoop.com prior to playing in Sunday evening's seniors game. "So, basically, it's Syracuse, St. John's, Alabama, Villanova, Xavier, Temple and some others."
Kamal Yard, Jordan's AAU coach, told OwlScoop.com Sunday even he is attempting to get an answer to that question.
"I think it changes every day in terms of what he wants to do," Yard said. "I think it's hard for him. He's a Philly kid, through and though. He bleeds Philly; he loves it. So in that sense I think it's hard for him to leave, and then there's some days where he says, 'I've got to go.' So everything has been up in the air and he hasn't just been able to figure out exactly what he wants to do, but I think he'll be getting there sooner rather than later."
Jordan is set to visit Syracuse the weekend of Oct. 12 and has already visited St. John's. He had an official visit lined up for UCLA this weekend but had to cancel. http://stjohns.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1416180 (http://stjohns.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1416180)
Another kid keeping it close to the vest. I think we have a very good shot, but I don't think any of us will know will direction he's leaning til signing. It's certainly not sooo up in the air if he will be getting to his decision soon.
I bet this drags into the spring
-
I bet Maryland turns up the heat on sheed now..
-
I bet Maryland turns up the heat on sheed now..
No doubt, still like our chances though
-
I bet Maryland turns up the heat on sheed now..
I think the heat already needed to be constant, trying to convince him the three of them could play together. Otherwise, why would he go anywhere where he was the clear consolation prize?
-
I bet Maryland turns up the heat on sheed now..
I think they are now in line to land PG Rodney Peters and I hope they do. Ultimately though, we want kids that want to come here and play, not rely on dominoes falling our way, although it certainly can help. I'm glad the Harrisons didn't choose Maryland though. I love seeing the ACC spurned.
-
I bet Maryland turns up the heat on sheed now..
I think they are now in line to land PG Rodney Peters and I hope they do. Ultimately though, we want kids that want to come here and play, not rely on dominoes falling our way, although it certainly can help. I'm glad the Harrisons didn't choose Maryland though. I love seeing the ACC spurned.
Most UMD fans are scared by Kansas and don't think they are lined up for him.
-
I bet Maryland turns up the heat on sheed now..
I think they are now in line to land PG Rodney Peters and I hope they do. Ultimately though, we want kids that want to come here and play, not rely on dominoes falling our way, although it certainly can help. I'm glad the Harrisons didn't choose Maryland though. I love seeing the ACC spurned.
I can care less if we land him because everyone else got someone else to be honest. Maryland though will be tough competitor for his services. Jordan though likely fills their needs better than Peters although Peters is a local kid.
-
I bet Maryland turns up the heat on sheed now..
I think they are now in line to land PG Rodney Peters and I hope they do. Ultimately though, we want kids that want to come here and play, not rely on dominoes falling our way, although it certainly can help. I'm glad the Harrisons didn't choose Maryland though. I love seeing the ACC spurned.
I can care less if we land him because everyone else got someone else to be honest. Maryland though will be tough competitor for his services. Jordan though likely fills their needs better than Peters although Peters is a local kid.
Really Ted?
I don't think he makes or breaks SJU but I would definitely like to see him in an SJU uniform and I know they are in good shape with him.
-
I think he meant that he doesn't care how SJU lands him (ie other teams signing PGs), just that we do actually land him.
-
I think he meant that he doesn't care how SJU lands him (ie other teams signing PGs), just that we do actually land him.
You are right, I actually reread it from that vantage point and I think that is what he meant.
I think I had 1 too many Beck's Lights' last night... ;D ;D
-
“@AdamZagoria: Rysheed Jordan is visiting Rutgers unofficially today for the football game vs. UConn”
-
I think he meant that he doesn't care how SJU lands him (ie other teams signing PGs), just that we do actually land him.
You are right, I actually reread it from that vantage point and I think that is what he meant.
I think I had 1 too many Beck's Lights' last night... ;D ;D
LOL, I meant I don't care how we get him even if it means his other choices no longer need his services. I like our chances but it's going to be really tough.
-
I think he meant that he doesn't care how SJU lands him (ie other teams signing PGs), just that we do actually land him.
You are right, I actually reread it from that vantage point and I think that is what he meant.
I think I had 1 too many Beck's Lights' last night... ;D ;D
LOL, I meant I don't care how we get him even if it means his other choices no longer need his services. I like our chances but it's going to be really tough.
Have faith in Lavin. He usually gets his man.
-
I bet Maryland turns up the heat on sheed now..
I think they are now in line to land PG Rodney Peters and I hope they do. Ultimately though, we want kids that want to come here and play, not rely on dominoes falling our way, although it certainly can help. I'm glad the Harrisons didn't choose Maryland though. I love seeing the ACC spurned.
With Frank Mason going to KU I don't see Peters headed to Lawrence as well (I know he plans on visiting KU).
-
I bet Maryland turns up the heat on sheed now..
I think they are now in line to land PG Rodney Peters and I hope they do. Ultimately though, we want kids that want to come here and play, not rely on dominoes falling our way, although it certainly can help. I'm glad the Harrisons didn't choose Maryland though. I love seeing the ACC spurned.
With Frank Mason going to KU I don't see Peters headed to Lawrence as well (I know he plans on visiting KU).
If Maryland gets Peters, and with UCLA having :Lavine, and Syracuse having Ennis, we got to like our chances. Kid seems to want to stay in Philly but NYC is close enough.
-
Some news here from Rysheed through Instragram last night, take it for what it's worth:
"Me and Brandon Austin goin to same college"
"Like this if u goin to come to my party when I commit my top schools are"
Alabama
Syracuse
Temple
UCLA
St. John's
-
Some news here from Rysheed through Instragram last night, take it for what it's worth:
"Me and Brandon Austin goin to same college"
"Like this if u goin to come to my party when I commit my top schools are"
Alabama
Syracuse
Temple
UCLA
St. John's
The only thing I take from that is he does not mention Maryland and the school he just visited Rutgers.
-
Some news here from Rysheed through Instragram last night, take it for what it's worth:
"Me and Brandon Austin goin to same college"
"Like this if u goin to come to my party when I commit my top schools are"
Alabama
Syracuse
Temple
UCLA
St. John's
Brandon Austin does list UCLA and CUSE.
-
Some news here from Rysheed through Instragram last night, take it for what it's worth:
"Me and Brandon Austin goin to same college"
"Like this if u goin to come to my party when I commit my top schools are"
Alabama
Syracuse
Temple
UCLA
St. John's
St.John's is a party school? Is he delusional?
-
Some news here from Rysheed through Instragram last night, take it for what it's worth:
"Me and Brandon Austin goin to same college"
"Like this if u goin to come to my party when I commit my top schools are"
Alabama
Syracuse
Temple
UCLA
St. John's
St.John's is a party school? Is he delusional?
He never said that. He said come to MY party when I committ.
-
Some news here from Rysheed through Instragram last night, take it for what it's worth:
"Me and Brandon Austin goin to same college"
"Like this if u goin to come to my party when I commit my top schools are"
Alabama
Syracuse
Temple
UCLA
St. John's
St.John's is a party school? Is he delusional?
He never said that. He said come to MY party when I committ.
I know. Just messing around.
-
Some news here from Rysheed through Instragram last night, take it for what it's worth:
"Me and Brandon Austin goin to same college"
"Like this if u goin to come to my party when I commit my top schools are"
Alabama
Syracuse
Temple
UCLA
St. John's
Brandon Austin does list UCLA and CUSE.
I don't put anything into these guys "playing together." I am sure they are friends.
-
Some news here from Rysheed through Instragram last night, take it for what it's worth:
"Me and Brandon Austin goin to same college"
"Like this if u goin to come to my party when I commit my top schools are"
Alabama
Syracuse
Temple
UCLA
St. John's
Brandon Austin does list UCLA and CUSE.
I don't put anything into these guys "playing together." I am sure they are friends.
The only time I remember it happening in recent memory is KA and Shabbaz
-
Some news here from Rysheed through Instragram last night, take it for what it's worth:
"Me and Brandon Austin goin to same college"
"Like this if u goin to come to my party when I commit my top schools are"
Alabama
Syracuse
Temple
UCLA
St. John's
Brandon Austin does list UCLA and CUSE.
I don't put anything into these guys "playing together." I am sure they are friends.
The only time I remember it happening in recent memory is KA and Shabbaz
quincy miller and duece bello, too
-
Some news here from Rysheed through Instragram last night, take it for what it's worth:
"Me and Brandon Austin goin to same college"
"Like this if u goin to come to my party when I commit my top schools are"
Alabama
Syracuse
Temple
UCLA
St. John's
Brandon Austin does list UCLA and CUSE.
I don't put anything into these guys "playing together." I am sure they are friends.
The only time I remember it happening in recent memory is KA and Shabbaz
quincy miller and duece bello, too
Marco and Orlando
Felix and Obekpa
Karr and Hooper
-
Some news here from Rysheed through Instragram last night, take it for what it's worth:
"Me and Brandon Austin goin to same college"
"Like this if u goin to come to my party when I commit my top schools are"
Alabama
Syracuse
Temple
UCLA
St. John's
Brandon Austin does list UCLA and CUSE.
“@AdamZagoria: Former Penn State commit Brandon Austin visits Providence Friday”
-
Some news here from Rysheed through Instragram last night, take it for what it's worth:
"Me and Brandon Austin goin to same college"
"Like this if u goin to come to my party when I commit my top schools are"
Alabama
Syracuse
Temple
UCLA
St. John's
Brandon Austin does list UCLA and CUSE.
I don't put anything into these guys "playing together." I am sure they are friends.
The only time I remember it happening in recent memory is KA and Shabbaz
It can happen but it usually is a special circumstance (they are already teammates in HS or JUCO or are both top 10 recruits). Trust me I don't believe UCLA is going to take Rysheed if that means they have to take Austin.
Whitehead, Lawrence and McCullough all "talking" about playing with each other perhaps at Cuse. Does anyone actually think in the end that will happen?
-
Final 6:
Syracuse
Temple
UCLA
Alabama
St. John's
Rutgers
-
Narrowing to final 3 soon.
-
Narrowing to final 3 soon.
STJ, CUSE, Temple IMO
-
That seems about right, i agree.
Both those schools also have a PG committed for 2013.
We'll see.
-
I like our chances here.
-
Something tells me bama will make the cut. Seems weird they have come almost out of no where
-
Added Xavier or left them out mistakenly.
“@sheedjordan: Helllo againn my final 7 schools rrr temple,St johns,Syracuse,rutgers, xavier,alabama, ucla, if wasnt clear ur hearing from my mouth”
-
Narrowing to final 3 soon.
STJ, CUSE, Temple IMO
Moose deserves some $ from "Scoop Zags" Jeesh! See what schools he identifies as likely final 3.
“@AdamZagoria: Rysheed Jordan 'Cuts' to Seven Schools http://t.co/479j5PXh (http://t.co/479j5PXh) @sheedjordan”
-
Zags has a Johnny jungle account
-
Zags has a Johnny jungle account
Clearly!
-
I love the fact that the kid isn't scared off by competiton for playing time. Imagine he and branch going wr it at practice also driving the other guards nuts. He and branch could be a lockdown d backcourt
-
I love the fact that the kid isn't scared off by competiton for playing time. Imagine he and branch going wr it at practice also driving the other guards nuts. He and branch could be a lockdown d backcourt
Also, at #41 in the RSCI rankings he's HIGHER RANKED out of HS than Jamal (#52). Hope IS a bit - well, lets not say scared, but cautious- about competition for playing time - as Syracuse already has the commitment from #28 Tyler Ennis :)
-
Zags has a Johnny jungle account
I do not...Umm, nevermind
-
19h
Jeff Borzello @jeffborzello
Think Syracuse and St. John's are in decent position for him right now. RT @PauliePancakes5: chances rysheed jordan ends up at cuse
-
Zags has a Johnny jungle account
Clearly!
He might but I know for a fact a few posters e-mail & text him all the time about what is being said on the board
-
Zags has a Johnny jungle account
Clearly!
He might but I know for a fact a few posters e-mail & text him all the time about what is being said on the board
Really ? Why would someone do that ? To curry favor from him ?
-
Zags has a Johnny jungle account
Clearly!
He might but I know for a fact a few posters e-mail & text him all the time about what is being said on the board
This is true.
-
For the record, Peters popped for Maryland this morning.
-
For the record, Peters popped for Maryland this morning.
Yes. Dalonte Hill and Turge met with Roddy and mom last night to make sure. Now I just need Rysheed to commit to SJ's and I'm all set!
-
For the record, Peters popped for Maryland this morning.
Yes. Dalonte Hill and Turge met with Roddy and mom last night to make sure. Now I just need Rysheed to commit to SJ's and I'm all set!
Who are we competing with now though? I always thought he was more of a Syracuse lean then maryland.
-
For the record, Peters popped for Maryland this morning.
Yes. Dalonte Hill and Turge met with Roddy and mom last night to make sure. Now I just need Rysheed to commit to SJ's and I'm all set!
Who are we competing with now though? I always thought he was more of a Syracuse lean then maryland.
Never really a CUSE lean. Was always Temple or MD.
It pretty much leaves us, Temple and Cuse now with Temple falling back a bit.
-
For the record, Peters popped for Maryland this morning.
Yes. Dalonte Hill and Turge met with Roddy and mom last night to make sure. Now I just need Rysheed to commit to SJ's and I'm all set!
Who are we competing with now though? I always thought he was more of a Syracuse lean then maryland.
Never really a CUSE lean. Was always Temple or MD.
It pretty much leaves us, Temple and Cuse now with Temple falling back a bit.
So down to us and cuse, do we win this dog fight?
-
For the record, Peters popped for Maryland this morning.
Yes. Dalonte Hill and Turge met with Roddy and mom last night to make sure. Now I just need Rysheed to commit to SJ's and I'm all set!
Who are we competing with now though? I always thought he was more of a Syracuse lean then maryland.
Never really a CUSE lean. Was always Temple or MD.
It pretty much leaves us, Temple and Cuse now with Temple falling back a bit.
So down to us and cuse, do we win this dog fight?
Because of Tyler Ennis, I say yes.
-
For the record, Peters popped for Maryland this morning.
Yes. Dalonte Hill and Turge met with Roddy and mom last night to make sure. Now I just need Rysheed to commit to SJ's and I'm all set!
Who are we competing with now though? I always thought he was more of a Syracuse lean then maryland.
Never really a CUSE lean. Was always Temple or MD.
It pretty much leaves us, Temple and Cuse now with Temple falling back a bit.
So down to us and cuse, do we win this dog fight?
Because of Tyler Ennis, I say yes.
Why are people discounting Temple?
-
Temple is the favorite I would think.
-
For the record, Peters popped for Maryland this morning.
Yes. Dalonte Hill and Turge met with Roddy and mom last night to make sure. Now I just need Rysheed to commit to SJ's and I'm all set!
Who are we competing with now though? I always thought he was more of a Syracuse lean then maryland.
Never really a CUSE lean. Was always Temple or MD.
It pretty much leaves us, Temple and Cuse now with Temple falling back a bit.
Why is Temple falling out of it? I thought there was always a strong indication he wanted to stay in Philly?
-
For the record, Peters popped for Maryland this morning.
Yes. Dalonte Hill and Turge met with Roddy and mom last night to make sure. Now I just need Rysheed to commit to SJ's and I'm all set!
Who are we competing with now though? I always thought he was more of a Syracuse lean then maryland.
Never really a CUSE lean. Was always Temple or MD.
It pretty much leaves us, Temple and Cuse now with Temple falling back a bit.
So down to us and cuse, do we win this dog fight?
Because of Tyler Ennis, I say yes.
Why are people discounting Temple?
Not discounting but its been quiet there lately with them. They do have Josh Brown on board as well not that its the end all be all.
-
For the record, Peters popped for Maryland this morning.
Yes. Dalonte Hill and Turge met with Roddy and mom last night to make sure. Now I just need Rysheed to commit to SJ's and I'm all set!
Who are we competing with now though? I always thought he was more of a Syracuse lean then maryland.
Never really a CUSE lean. Was always Temple or MD.
It pretty much leaves us, Temple and Cuse now with Temple falling back a bit.
Why is Temple falling out of it? I thought there was always a strong indication he wanted to stay in Philly?
Josh Brown committed to Temple then backed out then recently re-committed. I think it comes down to will Jordan coming on board push Brown away again. All signs do point to staying close to home. Which made/makes UMD and STJ so attractive as well.
-
For the record, Peters popped for Maryland this morning.
Yes. Dalonte Hill and Turge met with Roddy and mom last night to make sure. Now I just need Rysheed to commit to SJ's and I'm all set!
Who are we competing with now though? I always thought he was more of a Syracuse lean then maryland.
Never really a CUSE lean. Was always Temple or MD.
It pretty much leaves us, Temple and Cuse now with Temple falling back a bit.
So down to us and cuse, do we win this dog fight?
Because of Tyler Ennis, I say yes.
Why are people discounting Temple?
Not discounting but its been quiet there lately with them. They do have Josh Brown on board as well not that its the end all be all.
If Rysheed was gonna go Temple, he would have done so already. He's been on campus 20+ in the past year. I always felt he might want to get away, but not too far, kinda like the Ray Romano house distance theory with one's parents in Everyone Loves Raymond.
-
I think taking Maryland out of the equation certainly helps us. I think if he was going to choose Temple he would have done so. SJU is close enough to home but still outside of Philly pressures. Cuse has Tyler Ennis and a few other guards. In addition, I heard Rysheed didnt stick around for practice when he was at Cuse's Mm.
In the end, I think it ends up being SJU. Lavin doesn't oft lose out on his primary targets. We'll have PT for him, a fast paced style, proximity to Philly and of course Lavin.
-
I don't put too much weight into the notion that he would have chosen Temple already. Peters waited even though he seemed to favor Maryland.
Heard Friday at the Yankee game from a close friend that Lavin expects to land 1 and "probably" two players for the early period. I think he expects Wainright as 1 and my guess is Jordan perhaps as the second signing.
-
I don't put too much weight into the notion that he would have chosen Temple already. Peters waited even though he seemed to favor Maryland.
Heard Friday at the Yankee game from a close friend that Lavin expects to land 1 and "probably" two players for the early period. I think he expects Wainright as 1 and my guess is Jordan perhaps as the second signing.
I was there Friday, how come we didn't meet up? :)
Also saw our AD Chris Monasch there on Sunday.
-
I don't put too much weight into the notion that he would have chosen Temple already. Peters waited even though he seemed to favor Maryland.
Heard Friday at the Yankee game from a close friend that Lavin expects to land 1 and "probably" two players for the early period. I think he expects Wainright as 1 and my guess is Jordan perhaps as the second signing.
I was there Friday, how come we didn't meet up? :)
Also saw our AD Chris Monasch there on Sunday.
I got there late, had to leave work early meet my buddy from Long Island.
-
I don't put too much weight into the notion that he would have chosen Temple already. Peters waited even though he seemed to favor Maryland.
Heard Friday at the Yankee game from a close friend that Lavin expects to land 1 and "probably" two players for the early period. I think he expects Wainright as 1 and my guess is Jordan perhaps as the second signing.
Pretty much what I was thinking might happen with those 2, but not on any info. Just seems like we're real close if not "there" with both of them. I think Rysheed's recent official to SJU really helped us.
-
I don't put too much weight into the notion that he would have chosen Temple already. Peters waited even though he seemed to favor Maryland.
Heard Friday at the Yankee game from a close friend that Lavin expects to land 1 and "probably" two players for the early period. I think he expects Wainright as 1 and my guess is Jordan perhaps as the second signing.
Re: Peters - Hill asked him to wait. I'm not sure about Jordan, but it's a slightly different situation because of the twins. IMO, Peters bumped ahead of Jordan in MD's eyes after his AAU spring and strong summer.
-
I don't put too much weight into the notion that he would have chosen Temple already. Peters waited even though he seemed to favor Maryland.
Heard Friday at the Yankee game from a close friend that Lavin expects to land 1 and "probably" two players for the early period. I think he expects Wainright as 1 and my guess is Jordan perhaps as the second signing.
Pretty much what I was thinking might happen with those 2, but not on any info. Just seems like we're real close if not "there" with both of them. I think Rysheed's recent official to SJU really helped us.
I actually consider SJ's the front runner. Rysheed needs to be close to a real city, not dumpy Syracuse. I called MD or SJ's a long time ago. The cards all fell into place. Surely, Ennis and Peters make the best choice more of a best choice. Rysheed is a MSG type of guy. Black Jesus in the Bright Lights
-
For the record, Peters popped for Maryland this morning.
I love Roddy. That is my dude.
-
For the record, Peters popped for Maryland this morning.
I love Roddy. That is my dude.
Yessiree Dave. Roddy is a good young man. His mom's cousin apparently kept him on the straight and narrow. Always need to watch after the PG County guys. He's no angel, but has his school focus too from what I've read. I'm really happy he's staying home. Just want Rysheed to give Lavs the nod - it's a great fit.
-
For the record, Peters popped for Maryland this morning.
I love Roddy. That is my dude.
Yessiree Dave. Roddy is a good young man. His mom's cousin apparently kept him on the straight and narrow. Always need to watch after the PG County guys. He's no angel, but has his school focus too from what I've read. I'm really happy he's staying home. Just want Rysheed to give Lavs the nod - it's a great fit.
50/50
-
Ron Patterson, former IU commit picked up an offer from Cuse today. Patterson a top ranked SG. Certainly could take Rysheed out of the Syracuse picture. Would love to see Patterson to Cuse!
-
6'5 Rysheed Jordan DOMINATES The Chosen League with CRAZY Athletism (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTPctDEQyUI#)
not sure if it was posted before. yeah, he's definitely the top guy I want.
-
6'5 Rysheed Jordan DOMINATES The Chosen League with CRAZY Athletism (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTPctDEQyUI#)
not sure if it was posted before. yeah, he's definitely the top guy I want.
Tell Temple that.
-
he's nasty. we need a playmaker like him.
-
Scout.com story looks promising for SJU. Kamal Yard says that because of proximity SJU and SU have moved to the forefront.
Then proceeds to talk about how SJU is only 1 1/2 hours by train and he loved Lavin and Chiles.
Says he will probably commit early but sign late.
Also mentions RU and Temple but does not say anything additional about them.
http://scouthoops.scout.com/2/1234878.html (http://scouthoops.scout.com/2/1234878.html)
-
Scout.com story looks promising for SJU. Kamal Yard says that because of proximity SJU and SU have moved to the forefront.
Then proceeds to talk about how SJU is only 1 1/2 hours by train and he loved la in and Chiles.
Says he will probably commit early but sign late.
Also mentions RU and Temple but does not say anything additional about them.
http://scouthoops.scout.com/2/1234878.html (http://scouthoops.scout.com/2/1234878.html)
Thx Fordham! Promising news!
-
Scout.com story looks promising for SJU. Kamal Yard says that because of proximity SJU and SU have moved to the forefront.
Then proceeds to talk about how SJU is only 1 1/2 hours by train and he loved Lavin and Chiles.
Says he will probably commit early but sign late.
Also mentions RU and Temple but does not say anything additional about them.
http://scouthoops.scout.com/2/1234878.html (http://scouthoops.scout.com/2/1234878.html)
This kid would be a great get.
-
Syracuse got a committment today from Ron Patterson. He is a 6'3 guard from Brewster who was once committed to Indiana. Could bode well for our chances with Rysheed.
-
Syracuse got a committment today from Ron Patterson. He is a 6'3 guard from Brewster who was once committed to Indiana. Could bode well for our chances with Rysheed.
More than good. It should eliminate Cuse...
-
Syracuse got a committment today from Ron Patterson. He is a 6'3 guard from Brewster who was once committed to Indiana. Could bode well for our chances with Rysheed.
More than good. It should eliminate Cuse...
Not so fast Marcus!
“@jeffborzello: RT @EyeOnCBB: Syracuse lands its fourth commitment, former Indiana signee Ron Patterson: http://t.co/bnGjcCRe (http://t.co/bnGjcCRe)”
-
Syracuse got a committment today from Ron Patterson. He is a 6'3 guard from Brewster who was once committed to Indiana. Could bode well for our chances with Rysheed.
More than good. It should eliminate Cuse...
Not so fast Marcus!
“@jeffborzello: RT @EyeOnCBB: Syracuse lands its fourth commitment, former Indiana signee Ron Patterson: http://t.co/bnGjcCRe (http://t.co/bnGjcCRe)”
Everything I've heard has Cuse land Patterson OR Jordan. Cuse still has carter-Williams, Gbinje and now Ennis and Patterson. There's no way this doesn't help as I think Patterson was in lieu of Jordan. Cuse will concentrate on forwards now methinks. It also has to help from Rysheed's perspective as they just added 2 guys that are similar size and skill set as Jordan.
-
Syracuse got a committment today from Ron Patterson. He is a 6'3 guard from Brewster who was once committed to Indiana. Could bode well for our chances with Rysheed.
More than good. It should eliminate Cuse...
Not so fast Marcus!
“@jeffborzello: RT @EyeOnCBB: Syracuse lands its fourth commitment, former Indiana signee Ron Patterson: http://t.co/bnGjcCRe (http://t.co/bnGjcCRe)”
Everything I've heard has Cuse land Patterson OR Jordan. Cuse still has carter-Williams, Gbinje and now Ennis and Patterson. There's no way this doesn't help as I think Patterson was in lieu of Jordan. Cuse will concentrate on forwards now methinks. It also has to help from Rysheed's perspective as they just added 2 guys that are similar size and skill set as Jordan.
Hope you are right. BTW, Patterson is fully qualified.
-
Patterson is not just fully qualified he is fully qualified for this year before he did a prep year.
I think Cuse pursues Roberson next.
-
As of right now looks like it comes down to STJ or Temple.
-
As of right now looks like it comes down to STJ or Temple.
jm-Is this just a gut reaction or do you know something?
-
Heard Temple and StJ up front while Cuse still recruiting him.
Well see how this unfolds.
-
Sure this won't clarify much, but anyone?
“@ebosshoops: Will Rysheed Jordan sign early or late? That's to be determined. Update (premium) http://t.co/7UKZcOxS (http://t.co/7UKZcOxS)”
-
Sign early or sign late? that's the question facing the nation's top remaining point guard Rysheed Jordan.
Rysheed Jordan is the top remaining point guard in the country.
A 6-foot-4 floor general at Philadelphia (Penn.) Vaux Roberts, the No. 28 player in the country had initially planned to sign early. Now, his coach and mentor Kamal Yard says that Jordan is a bit up in the air.
"He's kind of taking it day by day," Yard told Rivals.com. "We were initially thinking he would commit by Thanksgiving at the latest but that hasn't materialized like we thought it would.
"He could sign in the signing period or he might not sign until the spring. He's got to figure it out."
A big and athletic floor general, Jordan is amongst the most physical perimeter players in the country. He's a load to handle off the dribble and can make plays for others. During the summer family obligations kept him away from some big events and because of that he and those close to him feel that people haven't gotten to see what he's really capable of.
"We firmly believe that he got a bit of a raw deal because of some of the events he missed," said Yard. "He missed those events because of some family issues. He's got a big family and had some stuff going on.
"That's why he missed some of those events. If he goes to NBA Camp or LeBron I don't think people would have jumped off his bandwagon. Next to the Harrison twins, he's maybe the best point guard out there."
The fire to prove that he's better than some think he is burns strong in Jordan. He's been in the gym non-stop and has really been working on his shooting.
"He's really been working hard in the gym and he's gotten better with his shooting in the last three months," said Yard. "I think he's ready to go out and show what he can do."
On the school front, nothing has changed. In October Jordan released a final seven of Alabama, Rutgers, St. John's, Syracuse, Temple,Xavier and UCLA and despite some schools taking perimeter commitments, they are all under consideration as Jordan ponders his next step and when he'll sign.
"He hasn't chopped anything down on the list," said Yard. "But proximity is probably going to be pretty important to him when he does make a decision."
-
Thx Vig. Same old stuff!
-
on his twitter last week, he responded to someone saying he wants to commit in December/January. He has since removed that post.
-
Sign early or sign late? that's the question facing the nation's top remaining point guard Rysheed Jordan.
Rysheed Jordan is the top remaining point guard in the country.
A 6-foot-4 floor general at Philadelphia (Penn.) Vaux Roberts, the No. 28 player in the country had initially planned to sign early. Now, his coach and mentor Kamal Yard says that Jordan is a bit up in the air.
"He's kind of taking it day by day," Yard told Rivals.com. "We were initially thinking he would commit by Thanksgiving at the latest but that hasn't materialized like we thought it would.
"He could sign in the signing period or he might not sign until the spring. He's got to figure it out."
A big and athletic floor general, Jordan is amongst the most physical perimeter players in the country. He's a load to handle off the dribble and can make plays for others. During the summer family obligations kept him away from some big events and because of that he and those close to him feel that people haven't gotten to see what he's really capable of.
"We firmly believe that he got a bit of a raw deal because of some of the events he missed," said Yard. "He missed those events because of some family issues. He's got a big family and had some stuff going on.
"That's why he missed some of those events. If he goes to NBA Camp or LeBron I don't think people would have jumped off his bandwagon. Next to the Harrison twins, he's maybe the best point guard out there."
The fire to prove that he's better than some think he is burns strong in Jordan. He's been in the gym non-stop and has really been working on his shooting.
"He's really been working hard in the gym and he's gotten better with his shooting in the last three months," said Yard. "I think he's ready to go out and show what he can do."
On the school front, nothing has changed. In October Jordan released a final seven of Alabama, Rutgers, St. John's, Syracuse, Temple,Xavier and UCLA and despite some schools taking perimeter commitments, they are all under consideration as Jordan ponders his next step and when he'll sign.
"He hasn't chopped anything down on the list," said Yard. "But proximity is probably going to be pretty important to him when he does make a decision."
I'm just wondering who or what he is waiting for? He's already pared down his list. Proximity is a big factor. There aren't really any schools in that vicinity that are going to pop into the picture that fit the description. Maybe just too many people in his ear, butk find it perplexing. If proximity is important there are only a small handful of options. I have no problem with kids taking their time, just perplexed at whom he wants to impress.
It seems that's somebody is telling him that he deserves more offers, or better offers but he had a bunch from top notch programs. The only offer with that sort of gravitas is UK, buti don't think that one is coming simply because they can chose all theirs from the top 10. Unless he's upset that Maryland backed off? Regardless, looks like people around him trying to convince him to not commit yet to impress some program.
-
Jordan and Lawrence update and commentary;
“@AdamZagoria: Memphis Leading Big East in 2013 Recruiting http://t.co/e3jTqIZk (http://t.co/e3jTqIZk)”
-
Really hope STJ is able to land Rysheed. Can't imagine who they'd turn to if they weren't able to get him.
-
Really hope STJ is able to land Rysheed. Can't imagine who they'd turn to if they weren't able to get him.
Struggle along with Branch and Green (and maybe D'lo) as Juniors in 2014, and get a pg from THAT incredibly rich in PGs Class? Joel Barry, Parker Jackson-Cartwright, Isiah Holman, Lourawls Nairn (love that name!), Jordan McLaughlin, Tide Osifeso, Quentin Snyder, Alonso Trier, Tyler Ulis, Johnnie Vasser, Rashad Vaughn and Mitch Wilbeken are ALL top 100 point guards in the 2014 class...and I'm sure several more will rise to the top as well over the next year.
-
Really hope STJ is able to land Rysheed. Can't imagine who they'd turn to if they weren't able to get him.
Branch is supposed to be the PG. Why is Jordan a must get?
-
Really hope STJ is able to land Rysheed. Can't imagine who they'd turn to if they weren't able to get him.
Branch is supposed to be the PG. Why is Jordan a must get?
Jordan has combo skills
-
Really hope STJ is able to land Rysheed. Can't imagine who they'd turn to if they weren't able to get him.
Branch is supposed to be the PG. Why is Jordan a must get?
Talent. Sign the best talent you can get. Rysheed is an upgrade in talent. Branch is likely very good. Great defender solid passer and shooter. Prepstars #51 recruit in the country out of high school. Rysheed is Prepstars #28.
-
Branch will be a Jr while Jorden will be FR. That said, Id love to get him.
-
Really hope STJ is able to land Rysheed. Can't imagine who they'd turn to if they weren't able to get him.
Branch is supposed to be the PG. Why is Jordan a must get?
Talent. Sign the best talent you can get. Rysheed is an upgrade in talent. Branch is likely very good. Great defender solid passer and shooter. Prepstars #51 recruit in the country out of high school. Rysheed is Prepstars #28.
I agree, but that's not a "must get". We have Harrison, Greene and soon we'll have Branch. Jordan would be a nice addition, but right now, I could care less. It's time to focus on getting our current team ready for the BE. Our goal this year is to show that last year was the fluke, not 10/11.
Personally, I'd love a true point guard on this team. I think it will take us to the next level. We have to at least see what we have with Branch running the offense. I'm not as hung up on rankings. Once a kid cracks the top 100, a lot is expected.
Our highest rated recruit the last 3 years: Sir Dom. I like him. He is a work in progress, and a reminder, and that these ranking are not the gospel.
-
Really hope STJ is able to land Rysheed. Can't imagine who they'd turn to if they weren't able to get him.
Branch is supposed to be the PG. Why is Jordan a must get?
Talent. Sign the best talent you can get. Rysheed is an upgrade in talent. Branch is likely very good. Great defender solid passer and shooter. Prepstars #51 recruit in the country out of high school. Rysheed is Prepstars #28.
I agree, but that's not a "must get". We have Harrison, Greene and soon we'll have Branch. Jordan would be a nice addition, but right now, I could care less. It's time to focus on getting our current team ready for the BE. Our goal this year is to show that last year was the fluke, not 10/11.
Personally, I'd love a true point guard on this team. I think it will take us to the next level. We have to at least see what we have with Branch running the offense. I'm not as hung up on rankings. Once a kid cracks the top 100, a lot is expected.
Our highest rated recruit the last 3 years: Sir Dom. I like him. He is a work in progress, and a reminder, and that these ranking are not the gospel.
Agree, Dom was overrated, decent 4 year player, bit not the stud as Telep, in particular, thought. He is a solid tweener, who hopefully can learn to shoot. Jordan to me is not a must get, but a "statement" recruit. IMO, getting him& Lawrence is affirmation of the program's ability to attract top kids year in year out.
-
If D'angelo leaves, Jordan is a must get. Need a scoring guard
-
Per Alex Kline, Rysheed was at the Temple game yesterday
-
Really hope STJ is able to land Rysheed. Can't imagine who they'd turn to if they weren't able to get him.
Branch is supposed to be the PG. Why is Jordan a must get?
Where in my post did I use the words "must get"? My point was that most of the players in the 2013 class have already signed. There are only a handful left.
Based on the fact that St. John's will have inevitable departures at the conclusion of this season, I'd like to see the coaching staff fill those spots with top talent. Additionally, I haven't heard STJ linked with anybody besides Jordan and Lawrence at this point.
-
If D'angelo leaves, Jordan is a must get. Need a scoring guard
D'Angelo isn't going anywhere. He's not even on the NBA radar, nor should he be.
-
Really hope STJ is able to land Rysheed. Can't imagine who they'd turn to if they weren't able to get him.
Branch is supposed to be the PG. Why is Jordan a must get?
Where in my post did I use the words "must get"? My point was that most of the players in the 2013 class have already signed. There are only a handful left.
Based on the fact that St. John's will have inevitable departures at the conclusion of this season, I'd like to see the coaching staff fill those spots with top talent. Additionally, I haven't heard STJ linked with anybody besides Jordan and Lawrence at this point.
We need to let go of our sky is falling attitude. No, you didn't say "must get" but you implied it, and that kind of thinking needs to go. The fans need to cut it out because the coaching staff no longer operates that way.
Sweating bums like Stephenson and Landesberg didn't help this program one bit.
If we get Jordan, great, if not, we'll be just fine with what we have, and God forbid a legit sleeper guard who can sit on his butt and watch.
-
If D'angelo leaves, Jordan is a must get. Need a scoring guard
D'Angelo isn't going anywhere. He's not even on the NBA radar, nor should he be.
It has been established that D'Angelo is likely to go even if the NBA isn't his destination. He could certainly collect a nice paycheck in Europe at the end of the year.
-
If D'angelo leaves, Jordan is a must get. Need a scoring guard
D'Angelo isn't going anywhere. He's not even on the NBA radar, nor should he be.
It has been established that D'Angelo is likely to go even if the NBA isn't his destination. He could certainly collect a nice
paycheck in Europe at the end of the year.
That would be incredibly sad, if true. Leaving the first they get is a poor reputation for any school to have. Leaving when the NBA isn't even interested, is much worse.
-
If D'angelo leaves, Jordan is a must get. Need a scoring guard
D'Angelo isn't going anywhere. He's not even on the NBA radar, nor should he be.
It has been established that D'Angelo is likely to go even if the NBA isn't his destination. He could certainly collect a nice
paycheck in Europe at the end of the year.
That would be incredibly sad, if true. Leaving the first they get is a poor reputation for any school to have. Leaving when the NBA isn't even interested, is much worse.
Yes. Billy Donovan and Florida have NEVER recovered from Nick Calathes.....
-
If D'angelo leaves, Jordan is a must get. Need a scoring guard
D'Angelo isn't going anywhere. He's not even on the NBA radar, nor should he be.
It has been established that D'Angelo is likely to go even if the NBA isn't his destination. He could certainly collect a nice
paycheck in Europe at the end of the year.
That would be incredibly sad, if true. Leaving the first they get is a poor reputation for any school to have. Leaving when the NBA isn't even interested, is much worse.
Yes. Billy Donovan and Florida have NEVER recovered from Nick Calathes.....
SJ and Florida are not comparable programs. Billy Donovan is as accomplished a coach as there is right now. I love Lavin, but it would not be good for anyone, including Harrison, if he bolted after this year to do who knows what. Fact of the matter is players like him grow on trees. Foreign teams can find a 22 ppg scorer who doesn't play defense on half the college programs in this country.
-
FWIW
“@sheedjordan: Keep calm I'm goin commit.”
-
FWIW
“@sheedjordan: Keep calm I'm goin commit.”
Sure hope our fans arent bothering him
-
FWIW
“@sheedjordan: Keep calm I'm goin commit.”
Sure hope our fans arent bothering him
What ya think moose, think he's temple bound and we beat out Cincy for jermaine. Your call?
-
If D'angelo leaves, Jordan is a must get. Need a scoring guard
Agree but Phil is going to be pretty damn good over the next couple of years I think
-
FWIW
“@sheedjordan: Keep calm I'm goin commit.”
Sure hope our fans arent bothering him
What ya think moose, think he's temple bound and we beat out Cincy for jermaine. Your call?
Hmm, “@DanielJMartin_: #STJbb making a strong push for Philadelphia PG Rysheed Jordan. UCLA and Temple right there as well.”
-
Hopefully, he saw the UCLA game tonight. Whatever Ben Howland had, it's gone.
-
Hopefully, he saw the UCLA game tonight. Whatever Ben Howland had, it's gone.
Then how do you feel about his viewing of our games in charelston ?
-
Hopefully, he saw the UCLA game tonight. Whatever Ben Howland had, it's gone.
Then how do you feel about his viewing of our games in charelston ?
hopefully he doesnt get espn3 or espnu.
Did Kyle really score a dunkin doughnut tonight ?
-
Good news on horizon? Philly cheesesteaks on menu?
-
Hopefully, he saw the UCLA game tonight. Whatever Ben Howland had, it's gone.
Then how do you feel about his viewing of our games in charelston ?
I don't think we played that badly. We lost to Murray State by 5. Baylor blew us out late, but the score doesn't tell the story of the game. I think Jordan should take note of Greene, Branch, Harrison, Sampson & Obekpa, and see that there are a lot of young future stars on this team.
And yes, we lost two games, but we also picked up 2 good wins. Detroit and CofC are not St.Francis and NJIT.
UCLA could be really poor next year. Muhammed will bolt. Adams could too. Anderson is a very good player, but he's not going to be able to do it himself. The Johnnies are a very attractive option for an incoming recruit.
That said, I've been to UCLA, and I loved it. Who wouldn't?
-
FWIW
“@sheedjordan: Keep calm I'm goin commit.”
Sure hope our fans arent bothering him
What ya think moose, think he's temple bound and we beat out Cincy for jermaine. Your call?
I think its 50/50 on Rysheed and with Jermaine I think we are among the final 3.
And I feel better about Jermaine than Rysheed if you held a gun to my head.
-
FWIW
“@sheedjordan: Keep calm I'm goin commit.”
Sure hope our fans arent bothering him
What ya think moose, think he's temple bound and we beat out Cincy for jermaine. Your call?
I think its 50/50 on Rysheed and with Jermaine I think we are among the final 3.
And I feel better about Jermaine than Rysheed if you held a gun to my head.
I really have no idea how the two will play out, I believe we will get 1 and to be honest that is OK with me
-
FWIW
“@sheedjordan: Keep calm I'm goin commit.”
Sure hope our fans arent bothering him
What ya think moose, think he's temple bound and we beat out Cincy for jermaine. Your call?
I think its 50/50 on Rysheed and with Jermaine I think we are among the final 3.
And I feel better about Jermaine than Rysheed if you held a gun to my head.
I really have no idea how the two will play out, I believe we will get 1 and to be honest that is OK with me
Hope you're right. I would be very OK with one of those two. I don't want to be that guy, but the truth is there isn't a lot of talent left uncommitted.
This isn't last year. Guys like Sampson and Obekpa, who we were involved with for years, aren't waiting out there.
9 of the top 100 aren't committed, and it's really only 7 because Parker and Wiggins are in a different stratosphere.
-
FWIW
“@sheedjordan: Keep calm I'm goin commit.”
Sure hope our fans arent bothering him
What ya think moose, think he's temple bound and we beat out Cincy for jermaine. Your call?
I think its 50/50 on Rysheed and with Jermaine I think we are among the final 3.
And I feel better about Jermaine than Rysheed if you held a gun to my head.
I really have no idea how the two will play out, I believe we will get 1 and to be honest that is OK with me
Hope you're right. I would be very OK with one of those two. I don't want to be that guy, but the truth is there isn't a lot of talent left uncommitted.
This isn't last year. Guys like Sampson and Obekpa, who we were involved with for years, aren't waiting out there.
9 of the top 100 aren't committed, and it's really only 7 because Parker and Wiggins are in a different stratosphere.
That isn't uncommon. Vast majority commit early. They might not sign but at least they pop.
-
FWIW
“@sheedjordan: Keep calm I'm goin commit.”
Sure hope our fans arent bothering him
What ya think moose, think he's temple bound and we beat out Cincy for jermaine. Your call?
I think its 50/50 on Rysheed and with Jermaine I think we are among the final 3.
And I feel better about Jermaine than Rysheed if you held a gun to my head.
I really have no idea how the two will play out, I believe we will get 1 and to be honest that is OK with me
Hope you're right. I would be very OK with one of those two. I don't want to be that guy, but the truth is there isn't a lot of talent left uncommitted.
This isn't last year. Guys like Sampson and Obekpa, who we were involved with for years, aren't waiting out there.
9 of the top 100 aren't committed, and it's really only 7 because Parker and Wiggins are in a different stratosphere.
That isn't uncommon. Vast majority commit early. They might not sign but at least they pop.
True, a lot of them are verbals, which we know can change. Still; I think pressure is on to sign Jordan or Lawrence.
-
FWIW
“@sheedjordan: Keep calm I'm goin commit.”
Sure hope our fans arent bothering him
What ya think moose, think he's temple bound and we beat out Cincy for jermaine. Your call?
I think its 50/50 on Rysheed and with Jermaine I think we are among the final 3.
And I feel better about Jermaine than Rysheed if you held a gun to my head.
I really have no idea how the two will play out, I believe we will get 1 and to be honest that is OK with me
Hope you're right. I would be very OK with one of those two. I don't want to be that guy, but the truth is there isn't a lot of talent left uncommitted.
This isn't last year. Guys like Sampson and Obekpa, who we were involved with for years, aren't waiting out there.
9 of the top 100 aren't committed, and it's really only 7 because Parker and Wiggins are in a different stratosphere.
Sorry. Disagree. Lot of talent still out there. Just that we've got 1, maybe 2 rides, and specific needs THIS time around. If this were last year's situation, and we had 8 rides to fill, there would EASILY still be talent out there at the level of Balamou, Jones, Hooper, JCs like Bourgalt and maybe even Sanchez for us to pick up by spring. And there may be a transfer like Jamal Branch out there as well. Still two months before it's the equivalent of HIS situation. Who knows, maybe Kyle gets fed up and homesick :)
-
FWIW
“@sheedjordan: Keep calm I'm goin commit.”
Sure hope our fans arent bothering him
What ya think moose, think he's temple bound and we beat out Cincy for jermaine. Your call?
I think its 50/50 on Rysheed and with Jermaine I think we are among the final 3.
And I feel better about Jermaine than Rysheed if you held a gun to my head.
I really have no idea how the two will play out, I believe we will get 1 and to be honest that is OK with me
Hope you're right. I would be very OK with one of those two. I don't want to be that guy, but the truth is there isn't a lot of talent left uncommitted.
This isn't last year. Guys like Sampson and Obekpa, who we were involved with for years, aren't waiting out there.
9 of the top 100 aren't committed, and it's really only 7 because Parker and Wiggins are in a different stratosphere.
Sorry. Disagree. Lot of talent still out there. Just that we've got 1, maybe 2 rides, and specific needs THIS time around. If this were last year's situation, and we had 8 rides to fill, there would EASILY still be talent out there at the level of Balamou, Jones, Hooper, JCs like Bourgalt and maybe even Sanchez for us to pick up by spring. And there may be a transfer like Jamal Branch out there as well. Still two months before it's the equivalent of HIS situation. Who knows, maybe Kyle gets fed up and homesick :)
If our one or two scholarships this year go to players of the same ilk as Hooper, Felix, or Jones then that will be a major disappointment.
-
FWIW
“@sheedjordan: Keep calm I'm goin commit.”
Sure hope our fans arent bothering him
What ya think moose, think he's temple bound and we beat out Cincy for jermaine. Your call?
I think its 50/50 on Rysheed and with Jermaine I think we are among the final 3.
And I feel better about Jermaine than Rysheed if you held a gun to my head.
I really have no idea how the two will play out, I believe we will get 1 and to be honest that is OK with me
Hope you're right. I would be very OK with one of those two. I don't want to be that guy, but the truth is there isn't a lot of talent left uncommitted.
This isn't last year. Guys like Sampson and Obekpa, who we were involved with for years, aren't waiting out there.
9 of the top 100 aren't committed, and it's really only 7 because Parker and Wiggins are in a different stratosphere.
Sorry. Disagree. Lot of talent still out there. Just that we've got 1, maybe 2 rides, and specific needs THIS time around. If this were last year's situation, and we had 8 rides to fill, there would EASILY still be talent out there at the level of Balamou, Jones, Hooper, JCs like Bourgalt and maybe even Sanchez for us to pick up by spring. And there may be a transfer like Jamal Branch out there as well. Still two months before it's the equivalent of HIS situation. Who knows, maybe Kyle gets fed up and homesick :)
If our one or two scholarships this year go to players of the same ilk as Hooper, Felix, or Jones then that will be a major disappointment.
Agree we have to do better then the three you mentioned but things always happen out of the blue that we can take advantage of. I understand we don't want to be in a position where we have to pull a rabitt out of the hat but I'm confident things will work out.
-
Felix has been a spark off the bench and you we have yet to see Max. Christian has 4 yrs to grow into a solid pf.
-
Temple blog piece from 11/15, with a reference to Temple and SJU battle for Jordan;
http://owlsblog.com/2012/11/15/reinforcements-are-on-the-way-josh-brown-and-kyle-green-sign-lois/ (http://owlsblog.com/2012/11/15/reinforcements-are-on-the-way-josh-brown-and-kyle-green-sign-lois/)
-
Ron Patterson, former IU commit picked up an offer from Cuse today. Patterson a top ranked SG. Certainly could take Rysheed out of the Syracuse picture. Would love to see Patterson to Cuse!
Between Ennis and Patterson, it is finito at Cuse. SJ's and Temple - two dog race
-
twitter post said UCLA is involved too.
-
twitter post said UCLA is involved too.
They have a PG in Kyle Anderson. Oh wait.................... ;)
-
Hopefully, he saw the UCLA game tonight. Whatever Ben Howland had, it's gone.
Then how do you feel about his viewing of our games in charelston ?
I don't think we played that badly. We lost to Murray State by 5. Baylor blew us out late, but the score doesn't tell the story of the game. I think Jordan should take note of Greene, Branch, Harrison, Sampson & Obekpa, and see that there are a lot of young future stars on this team.
And yes, we lost two games, but we also picked up 2 good wins. Detroit and CofC are not St.Francis and NJIT.
UCLA could be really poor next year. Muhammed will bolt. Adams could too. Anderson is a very good player, but he's not going to be able to do it himself. The Johnnies are a very attractive option for an incoming recruit.
That said, I've been to UCLA, and I loved it. Who wouldn't?
Doubt they'll be poor in 2014....
Bruins figure to have back former McD AA Josh Smith at Center, Former Mc D AA Travis Wear at F/C, former McD AA David Wear at F/C, former McD AA Tony Parker at F/C. Also, former RSCI #39 Guard/wing Tyler Lamb, Former RSCI #53 combo guard Norman Powell, and have LOIs from Scouts #23 recruit (listed as the #6 PG) Zach Lavine, and Bob Gibbons #28 recruit combo guard Allerick Freeman, as well as a sleeper 6'7 wing named Noah Allen, a kid they recruited lightly as a 6'2 combo guard, who's grown 5 inches in the last year and a half. And they've got a pretty good shot at 6'9 240 Findlay Prep big Gavin Schilling (a ateammate of Freeman's), who's waiting till spring to sign.
And that's if Adams and Anderson don't return. Both have serious strenght/defensive weakness/athleticism issues to address, so the NB A may have to wait for both. Gotta figure Shabazz is gone, tho. And Drew is a senior.
-
UCLA has a ton of talent. Talent isn't the problem. It's Howland.
-
UCLA has a ton of talent. Talent isn't the problem. It's Howland.
Agreed, he sucks
-
UCLA has a ton of talent. Talent isn't the problem. It's Howland.
Agreed, he sucks
He has the wrong collection of talent. I've said it before. He has tons of bigs but not enough balance. Not enough backcourt prowess, team speed. Can win big with more than half your team being big men. They are tremendously slow overall. Certainly some real talent there, but the wrong mix of talent.
-
FWIW, educated guess is this recruitment ends shortly.
-
FWIW, educated guess is this recruitment ends shortly.
People on twitter are saying he is announcing today. No clue if its true or not. But I'd still be shocked if it wasn't Temple .
-
FWIW, educated guess is this recruitment ends shortly.
People on twitter are saying he is announcing today. No clue if its true or not. But I'd still be shocked if it wasn't Temple .
Heard today also & not happy with outcome voiced. That said, Lawrence is the big deal, and like Moose, like our chances.
-
Can he still sign or just verbal?
-
Can he still sign or just verbal?
Pretty sure the signing date has passed and he can only verbal at this point.
-
Can he still sign or just verbal?
Pretty sure the signing date has passed and he can only verbal at this point.
Looks like today is last day.
-
Would of loved to get him, but with Phil, Jamal here for another 2 yrs we have time to explore other options. Hope we land Lawerence.
-
Why?
FWIW-Looks like Kamal Yard told Zags he has no plans to commit today and so after today he cannot sign an NLI until April.
-
FWIW, educated guess is this recruitment ends shortly.
People on twitter are saying he is announcing today. No clue if its true or not. But I'd still be shocked if it wasn't Temple .
Heard today also & not happy with outcome voiced. That said, Lawrence is the big deal, and like Moose, like our chances.
I dont think we land him but its only based on my own thoughts. We do have a legitimate shot though.
-
With so much chaos going on, it would make sense for any SJU recruit to wait until spring and see how everything shapes up before signing a LOI.
-
With so much chaos going on, it would make sense for any SJU recruit to wait until spring and see how everything shapes up before signing a LOI.
Rysheed has always said he would sign in Spring.
Also as much uncertainty as STJ has Temple has just as much, maybe even more. So considering those are his final 2 schools, yes Spring makes all the sense in the world.
-
With so much chaos going on, it would make sense for any SJU recruit to wait until spring and see how everything shapes up before signing a LOI.
Rysheed has always said he would sign in Spring.
Also as much uncertainty as STJ has Temple has just as much, maybe even more. So considering those are his final 2 schools, yes Spring makes all the sense in the world.
UCLA boards are reporting today that Rysheed has rescheduled his missed October "official" vist to Westwood for this coming weekend.
-
With so much chaos going on, it would make sense for any SJU recruit to wait until spring and see how everything shapes up before signing a LOI.
Rysheed has always said he would sign in Spring.
Also as much uncertainty as STJ has Temple has just as much, maybe even more. So considering those are his final 2 schools, yes Spring makes all the sense in the world.
UCLA boards are reporting today that Rysheed has rescheduled his missed October "official" vist to Westwood for this coming weekend.
So after Yard has said proximity matters and that UCLA because of distance was not really an option he is still going to visit?
-
With so much chaos going on, it would make sense for any SJU recruit to wait until spring and see how everything shapes up before signing a LOI.
Rysheed has always said he would sign in Spring.
Also as much uncertainty as STJ has Temple has just as much, maybe even more. So considering those are his final 2 schools, yes Spring makes all the sense in the world.
UCLA boards are reporting today that Rysheed has rescheduled his missed October "official" vist to Westwood for this coming weekend.
So after Yard has said proximity matters and that UCLA because of distance was not really an option is still going to visit?
75 & sunny.
-
Free trip!
-
With so much chaos going on, it would make sense for any SJU recruit to wait until spring and see how everything shapes up before signing a LOI.
Rysheed has always said he would sign in Spring.
Also as much uncertainty as STJ has Temple has just as much, maybe even more. So considering those are his final 2 schools, yes Spring makes all the sense in the world.
UCLA boards are reporting today that Rysheed has rescheduled his missed October "official" vist to Westwood for this coming weekend.
So after Yard has said proximity matters and that UCLA because of distance was not really an option is still going to visit?
75 & sunny.
Actually, expected to be 85. Not winter for 4 more weeks! :)
-
Actually 70 in Long beach wind 4mph
-
Tiring!
“@AdamZagoria: Rysheed Jordan to Cut List to Five http://t.co/NxQsYNE4 (http://t.co/NxQsYNE4)”
-
Tiring!
“@AdamZagoria: Rysheed Jordan to Cut List to Five http://t.co/NxQsYNE4 (http://t.co/NxQsYNE4)”
To tell truth, I'm glad he didn't commit this fall. The longer his recruitment goes and the longer Lavin has, likely the better for us.
-
Tiring!
“@AdamZagoria: Rysheed Jordan to Cut List to Five http://t.co/NxQsYNE4 (http://t.co/NxQsYNE4)”
You might want to tweet him to let him know to make a decision soon so you go on with your life. ;)
-
Tiring!
“@AdamZagoria: Rysheed Jordan to Cut List to Five http://t.co/NxQsYNE4 (http://t.co/NxQsYNE4)”
To tell truth, I'm glad he didn't commit this fall. The longer his recruitment goes and the longer Lavin has, likely the better for us.
He also seems to really enjoy the process :)
-
Tiring!
“@AdamZagoria: Rysheed Jordan to Cut List to Five http://t.co/NxQsYNE4 (http://t.co/NxQsYNE4)”
To tell truth, I'm glad he didn't commit this fall. The longer his recruitment goes and the longer Lavin has, likely the better for us.
He also seems to really enjoy the process :)
Ha! It reminds me the Savon Goodman "Farewell Tour".
-
Tiring!
“@AdamZagoria: Rysheed Jordan to Cut List to Five http://t.co/NxQsYNE4 (http://t.co/NxQsYNE4)”
To tell truth, I'm glad he didn't commit this fall. The longer his recruitment goes and the longer Lavin has, likely the better for us.
He also seems to really enjoy the process :)
Ha! It reminds me the Savon Goodman "Farewell Tour".
I have never seen a kid like Goodman or Isiah Lewis who just threw schools out there who werent even recruiting them.
-
Would not be surprised to see Goodman leave Vegas after fresh year. They are building a power house and IMO he will be a marginal payer at best. Big ego!
-
Would not be surprised to see Goodman leave Vegas after fresh year. They are building a power house and IMO he will be a marginal payer at best. Big ego!
I am just shocked he is cleared to play, Goodman to a school like Temple or Drexel makes sense. I just feel the UNLV recruiting success is too good to be true.
-
FWIW, he says on instagram he's making his college choice on Thursday:
boodadv
Yo when u making ya decision for college? @blackjesus_4
blackjesus_4
@boodadv Thursday
boodadv
Ard n***** waiting on ya big decision young @blackjesus_4
-
Didn't he just say last week he's going to decide in the spring? That's some consistency for ya.
But maybe it's a good sign since we're playing Thursday night. As far as I can tell none of his other schools are.
-
Didn't he just say last week he's going to decide in the spring? That's some consistency for ya.
But maybe it's a good sign since we're playing Thursday night. As far as I can tell none of his other schools are.
Said he would sign in the spring. Not shocked to see him pop sooner.
-
FWIW, he says on instagram he's making his college choice on Thursday:
boodadv
Yo when u making ya decision for college? @blackjesus_4
blackjesus_4
@boodadv Thursday
boodadv
Ard n***** waiting on ya big decision young @blackjesus_4
We could have God's Gift and Black Jesus on the same team.
-
FWIW, he says on instagram he's making his college choice on Thursday:
boodadv
Yo when u making ya decision for college? @blackjesus_4
blackjesus_4
@boodadv Thursday
boodadv
Ard n***** waiting on ya big decision young @blackjesus_4
We could have God's Gift and Black Jesus on the same team.
In a God help us league.
-
No doubt news of Tulane's entry to the BE has reaped it's immediate rewards. :-[
-
All the conference realignment discussion has drawn attention away from the fact Jordan may announce tomorrow.
Anyone hearing anything?
-
All the conference realignment discussion has drawn attention away from the fact Jordan may announce tomorrow.
Anyone hearing anything?
Why he would verbal to STJ or Temple tomorrow with all the uncertainty is beyond me
-
All the conference realignment discussion has drawn attention away from the fact Jordan may announce tomorrow.
Anyone hearing anything?
Why he would verbal to STJ or Temple tomorrow with all the uncertainty is beyond me
Should we assume you forgot to add ::) at the end of your post, Moose?
-
All the conference realignment discussion has drawn attention away from the fact Jordan may announce tomorrow.
Anyone hearing anything?
Why he would verbal to STJ or Temple tomorrow with all the uncertainty is beyond me
Should we assume you forgot to add ::) at the end of your post, Moose?
Um no. I meant what I said. He is most likely picking between two schools in the Big Least. Why pick now? Gains nothing from it. Wait it out since he's not signing till Spring anyway.
-
this came up on Rysheed's twitter. Temple putting on full court press
https://twitter.com/cherrycrusade/status/269993429860225027/photo/1
-
All the conference realignment discussion has drawn attention away from the fact Jordan may announce tomorrow.
Anyone hearing anything?
Why he would verbal to STJ or Temple tomorrow with all the uncertainty is beyond me
Should we assume you forgot to add ::) at the end of your post, Moose?
Um no. I meant what I said. He is most likely picking between two schools in the Big Least. Why pick now? Gains nothing from it. Wait it out since he's not signing till Spring anyway.
Got it. I thought from some of your prior posts that you didn't assign too much weight toward how the conference turmoil stuff impacted Lavin's ability to recruit.
-
All the conference realignment discussion has drawn attention away from the fact Jordan may announce tomorrow.
Anyone hearing anything?
Why he would verbal to STJ or Temple tomorrow with all the uncertainty is beyond me
Should we assume you forgot to add ::) at the end of your post, Moose?
Um no. I meant what I said. He is most likely picking between two schools in the Big Least. Why pick now? Gains nothing from it. Wait it out since he's not signing till Spring anyway.
If he's down to us and Temple, what does it matter? Chances are we'll be in the same conferences. And if we're not - he'll still be playing his games on the east coast. Seems that and coaching staff are most important to him. But who knows.
I could see if he was still considering Syracuse, but I'm assuming he's not because of the guards he's picked up.
edit: I take that back, I looked at his twitter, it does appear he really is set to commit.
-
All the conference realignment discussion has drawn attention away from the fact Jordan may announce tomorrow.
Anyone hearing anything?
Why he would verbal to STJ or Temple tomorrow with all the uncertainty is beyond me
Should we assume you forgot to add ::) at the end of your post, Moose?
Um no. I meant what I said. He is most likely picking between two schools in the Big Least. Why pick now? Gains nothing from it. Wait it out since he's not signing till Spring anyway.
Got it. I thought from some of your prior posts that you didn't assign too much weight toward how the conference turmoil stuff impacted Lavin's ability to recruit.
I did say that yes.
But this is a kid and this stuff happened this week/today. We know how kids react and change their mind. I dont get why he would even verbal now. Why not verbal two weeks ago during the signing period then? Even if you don't sign. At this point just wait. Once dust is settled I don't think it will hurt because staff can be out in front of it.
-
edit: I take that back, I looked at his twitter, it does appear he really is set to commit.
Where do you see he said this on his twitter page?
For the record I doubt he will commit tomorrow.
-
IF Jordan commits tomorrow and he picks SJU, that would be a great sign for SJU's future success and would, in my mind, validate the view of some, like Moose, that conference instability won't materially affect Lavin's ability to recruit the talent. We'll see...
-
edit: I take that back, I looked at his twitter, it does appear he really is set to commit.
Where do you see he said this on his twitter page?
For the record I doubt he will commit tomorrow.
Look back a page, somebody quoted it. He told somebody on twitter he would decide Thursday.
But no I don't see anything new. Just him telling somebody to keep calm he's going to commit soon.
https://twitter.com/sheedjordan
-
edit: I take that back, I looked at his twitter, it does appear he really is set to commit.
Where do you see he said this on his twitter page?
For the record I doubt he will commit tomorrow.
Look back a page, somebody quoted it. He told somebody on twitter he would decide Thursday.
But no I don't see anything new. Just him telling somebody to keep calm he's going to commit soon.
https://twitter.com/sheedjordan
He told someone on Instagram not twitter.
I don't see a new tweet from him in about a week.
-
he'll be at UCLA tomorrow.
blackjesus_4
goin to visit UCLA 2MAR
blackjesus_4
COLLEGE TRIP...
9m
biggie30
Swagg
7m
snook16
@blackjesus_4 do you know where you going
7m
whiteboyrell
UCLA doe? Smh
6m
blackjesus_4
@whiteboyrell what
3m
blackjesus_4
@snook16 naw
3m
flyguy_miz
Nice.. My dads an Alumni. Be safe
-
http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/high_school/pennsylvania/20121130_Vaux_star_Jordan_closes_in_on_biggest_decision_of_his_career_-_his_college.html (http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/high_school/pennsylvania/20121130_Vaux_star_Jordan_closes_in_on_biggest_decision_of_his_career_-_his_college.html)
says hes going to verbal after his ucla visit.
interesting to learn of his family obligations in philly. sounds like a good kid who really might need to be close to home.
-
http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/high_school/pennsylvania/20121130_Vaux_star_Jordan_closes_in_on_biggest_decision_of_his_career_-_his_college.html (http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/high_school/pennsylvania/20121130_Vaux_star_Jordan_closes_in_on_biggest_decision_of_his_career_-_his_college.html)
says hes going to verbal after his ucla visit.
interesting to learn of his family obligations in philly. sounds like a good kid who really might need to be close to home.
Great article, gotta think its between us and Temple
-
Temple is my guess fwiw. hope I am wrong.
-
Temple is my guess fwiw. hope I am wrong.
Don't know. He has strong pull from his neighborhood, but some kids find it better to be close yet not that close to home. SJU is close to Philly and family, yet not too close for all local influences. It is absolutely down to SJU and Temple. I'm just not sure that Lavin loses this one. Gotta like 50/50 though.
-
Temple is my guess fwiw. hope I am wrong.
From all the intereviews it is clear he wanted to stay close to home so I think the UCLA visit is courtesy thus leaving SJU and Temple.
I know he loves Lavin (look how Yard refers to Coach as "Lavs" very informal like they are best friends). And I just think if being actually in the city of Philly was so important why is it taking him so long to say yes to Temple?
Just my 2 cents.
-
Temple is my guess fwiw. hope I am wrong.
From all the intereviews it is clear he wanted to stay close to home so I think the UCLA visit is courtesy thus leaving SJU and Temple.
I know he loves Lavin (look how Yard refers to Coach as "Lavs" very informal like they are best friends). And I just think if being actually in the city of Philly was so important why is it taking him so long to say yes to Temple?
Just my 2 cents.
I feel the same way.
-
Temple is my guess fwiw. hope I am wrong.
Don't know. He has strong pull from his neighborhood, but some kids find it better to be close yet not that close to home. SJU is close to Philly and family, yet not too close for all local influences. It is absolutely down to SJU and Temple. I'm just not sure that Lavin loses this one. Gotta like 50/50 though.
Shocked that you would lean in our direction Marcus! Kidding!
-
Temple is my guess fwiw. hope I am wrong.
Don't know. He has strong pull from his neighborhood, but some kids find it better to be close yet not that close to home. SJU is close to Philly and family, yet not too close for all local influences. It is absolutely down to SJU and Temple. I'm just not sure that Lavin loses this one. Gotta like 50/50 though.
My only worry for SJU is two sophomore PGs on the roster - and Phil having a breakout year already - but both certainly here for a couple more years. Both the other schools are running Seniors at PG (Khalif Wyatt and Larry Drew). He starts from day 1 at Temple or UCLA. Get the feeling that may be important to this kid.
-
Temple is my guess fwiw. hope I am wrong.
Don't know. He has strong pull from his neighborhood, but some kids find it better to be close yet not that close to home. SJU is close to Philly and family, yet not too close for all local influences. It is absolutely down to SJU and Temple. I'm just not sure that Lavin loses this one. Gotta like 50/50 though.
My only worry for SJU is two sophomore PGs on the roster - and Phil having a breakout year already - but both certainly here for a couple more years. Both the other schools are running Seniors at PG (Khalif Wyatt and Larry Drew). He starts from day 1 at Temple or UCLA. Get the feeling that may be important to this kid.
Excellent point!
-
Temple is my guess fwiw. hope I am wrong.
Don't know. He has strong pull from his neighborhood, but some kids find it better to be close yet not that close to home. SJU is close to Philly and family, yet not too close for all local influences. It is absolutely down to SJU and Temple. I'm just not sure that Lavin loses this one. Gotta like 50/50 though.
My only worry for SJU is two sophomore PGs on the roster - and Phil having a breakout year already - but both certainly here for a couple more years. Both the other schools are running Seniors at PG (Khalif Wyatt and Larry Drew). He starts from day 1 at Temple or UCLA. Get the feeling that may be important to this kid.
Excellent point!
true, but harrison is gone after this year. jordan will have plenty of PT at stj
-
Temple is my guess fwiw. hope I am wrong.
Don't know. He has strong pull from his neighborhood, but some kids find it better to be close yet not that close to home. SJU is close to Philly and family, yet not too close for all local influences. It is absolutely down to SJU and Temple. I'm just not sure that Lavin loses this one. Gotta like 50/50 though.
My only worry for SJU is two sophomore PGs on the roster - and Phil having a breakout year already - but both certainly here for a couple more years. Both the other schools are running Seniors at PG (Khalif Wyatt and Larry Drew). He starts from day 1 at Temple or UCLA. Get the feeling that may be important to this kid.
Excellent point!
true, but harrison is gone after this year. jordan will have plenty of PT at stj
Harrison isn't going anywhere.
-
Temple is my guess fwiw. hope I am wrong.
Don't know. He has strong pull from his neighborhood, but some kids find it better to be close yet not that close to home. SJU is close to Philly and family, yet not too close for all local influences. It is absolutely down to SJU and Temple. I'm just not sure that Lavin loses this one. Gotta like 50/50 though.
My only worry for SJU is two sophomore PGs on the roster - and Phil having a breakout year already - but both certainly here for a couple more years. Both the other schools are running Seniors at PG (Khalif Wyatt and Larry Drew). He starts from day 1 at Temple or UCLA. Get the feeling that may be important to this kid.
A top notch player like Rysheed isn't going to be scared off by a good guard or two. I still don't think there's any chance that Harrison will stay after this season. He will average in the 20ppg range and be a first teamer All Big East, I have no doubt. Harrison's production will be pretty much as good as it is going to get for him and his upside or downside in the NBA will be apparent. I think we lose Harrison no matter what, which will pave the way for Jordan and I'd be surprised if Lavin wasn't totally aware.
-
This is at least the 3rd time he has said he will announce.
-
Temple is my guess fwiw. hope I am wrong.
Don't know. He has strong pull from his neighborhood, but some kids find it better to be close yet not that close to home. SJU is close to Philly and family, yet not too close for all local influences. It is absolutely down to SJU and Temple. I'm just not sure that Lavin loses this one. Gotta like 50/50 though.
My only worry for SJU is two sophomore PGs on the roster - and Phil having a breakout year already - but both certainly here for a couple more years. Both the other schools are running Seniors at PG (Khalif Wyatt and Larry Drew). He starts from day 1 at Temple or UCLA. Get the feeling that may be important to this kid.
Excellent point!
true, but harrison is gone after this year. jordan will have plenty of PT at stj
Harrison isn't going anywhere.
If he doesn't leave, then Jordan is no worry at all and we're in fantastic shape. I still think he's gone.
-
Temple is my guess fwiw. hope I am wrong.
Don't know. He has strong pull from his neighborhood, but some kids find it better to be close yet not that close to home. SJU is close to Philly and family, yet not too close for all local influences. It is absolutely down to SJU and Temple. I'm just not sure that Lavin loses this one. Gotta like 50/50 though.
My only worry for SJU is two sophomore PGs on the roster - and Phil having a breakout year already - but both certainly here for a couple more years. Both the other schools are running Seniors at PG (Khalif Wyatt and Larry Drew). He starts from day 1 at Temple or UCLA. Get the feeling that may be important to this kid.
A top notch player like Rysheed isn't going to be scared off by a good guard or two. I still don't think there's any chance that Harrison will stay after this season. He will average in the 20ppg range and be a first teamer All Big East, I have no doubt. Harrison's production will be pretty much as good as it is going to get for him and his upside or downside in the NBA will be apparent. I think we lose Harrison no matter what, which will pave the way for Jordan and I'd be surprised if Lavin wasn't totally aware.
We will see. Hope you are right, but will look forward to your explanation if it turns another way. My In Laws are visiting. Can you lend me those rose colored glasses?
-
Temple is my guess fwiw. hope I am wrong.
Don't know. He has strong pull from his neighborhood, but some kids find it better to be close yet not that close to home. SJU is close to Philly and family, yet not too close for all local influences. It is absolutely down to SJU and Temple. I'm just not sure that Lavin loses this one. Gotta like 50/50 though.
My only worry for SJU is two sophomore PGs on the roster - and Phil having a breakout year already - but both certainly here for a couple more years. Both the other schools are running Seniors at PG (Khalif Wyatt and Larry Drew). He starts from day 1 at Temple or UCLA. Get the feeling that may be important to this kid.
Excellent point!
true, but harrison is gone after this year. jordan will have plenty of PT at stj
Harrison isn't going anywhere.
Not worried about D'lo. Harrison being here to RECEIVE his passes is an incentive for Rysheed. It's Jamal Branch and Phil Green at PG, and splitting PG minutes 3 ways that might concern him. It's not a matter of being "scared" - it's a matter of available minutes. Could he be happy if he ended up Eric Beldsoe to John Wall? Or as Quinn Cook to Austin Rivers/Seth Curry last year? Or does he see himself as Wall/Rivers?
-
Temple is my guess fwiw. hope I am wrong.
Don't know. He has strong pull from his neighborhood, but some kids find it better to be close yet not that close to home. SJU is close to Philly and family, yet not too close for all local influences. It is absolutely down to SJU and Temple. I'm just not sure that Lavin loses this one. Gotta like 50/50 though.
My only worry for SJU is two sophomore PGs on the roster - and Phil having a breakout year already - but both certainly here for a couple more years. Both the other schools are running Seniors at PG (Khalif Wyatt and Larry Drew). He starts from day 1 at Temple or UCLA. Get the feeling that may be important to this kid.
A top notch player like Rysheed isn't going to be scared off by a good guard or two. I still don't think there's any chance that Harrison will stay after this season. He will average in the 20ppg range and be a first teamer All Big East, I have no doubt. Harrison's production will be pretty much as good as it is going to get for him and his upside or downside in the NBA will be apparent. I think we lose Harrison no matter what, which will pave the way for Jordan and I'd be surprised if Lavin wasn't totally aware.
We will see. Hope you are right, but will look forward to your explanation if it turns another way. My In Laws are visiting. Can you lend me those rose colored glasses?
Paultzman. Ive already explained why it can go either way. So did Fordham. Temple an obvious option and
P.S. I've had about enough of you. You are becoming increasingly irritating on these boards and I'm not the first poster who has noticed. Just kidding! ;)
-
Temple is my guess fwiw. hope I am wrong.
Don't know. He has strong pull from his neighborhood, but some kids find it better to be close yet not that close to home. SJU is close to Philly and family, yet not too close for all local influences. It is absolutely down to SJU and Temple. I'm just not sure that Lavin loses this one. Gotta like 50/50 though.
My only worry for SJU is two sophomore PGs on the roster - and Phil having a breakout year already - but both certainly here for a couple more years. Both the other schools are running Seniors at PG (Khalif Wyatt and Larry Drew). He starts from day 1 at Temple or UCLA. Get the feeling that may be important to this kid.
A top notch player like Rysheed isn't going to be scared off by a good guard or two. I still don't think there's any chance that Harrison will stay after this season. He will average in the 20ppg range and be a first teamer All Big East, I have no doubt. Harrison's production will be pretty much as good as it is going to get for him and his upside or downside in the NBA will be apparent. I think we lose Harrison no matter what, which will pave the way for Jordan and I'd be surprised if Lavin wasn't totally aware.
We will see. Hope you are right, but will look forward to your explanation if it turns another way. My In Laws are visiting. Can you lend me those rose colored glasses?
Paultzman. Ive already explained why it can go either way. So did Fordham. Temple an obvious option and
P.S. I've had about enough of you. You are becoming increasingly irritating on these boards and I'm not the first poster who has noticed. Just kidding! ;)
No, you're not.
-
Temple is my guess fwiw. hope I am wrong.
Don't know. He has strong pull from his neighborhood, but some kids find it better to be close yet not that close to home. SJU is close to Philly and family, yet not too close for all local influences. It is absolutely down to SJU and Temple. I'm just not sure that Lavin loses this one. Gotta like 50/50 though.
My only worry for SJU is two sophomore PGs on the roster - and Phil having a breakout year already - but both certainly here for a couple more years. Both the other schools are running Seniors at PG (Khalif Wyatt and Larry Drew). He starts from day 1 at Temple or UCLA. Get the feeling that may be important to this kid.
Excellent point!
true, but harrison is gone after this year. jordan will have plenty of PT at stj
Are you suggesting that Harrison is leaving to play overseas?
-
I think he is the perfect PG for Lavin's system. Lavin tends to like big PG's who can score. Really hope we can land him.
-
Listen guys nobody spot is guaranteed you don't produce you don't play, c jones went from 12th man to starter Felix went from redshirt fresh to starter. I hope rysheed comes in here and sees that his talent will dictate his pt
-
Listen guys nobody spot is guaranteed you don't produce you don't play, c jones went from 12th man to starter Felix went from redshirt fresh to starter. I hope rysheed comes in here and sees that his talent will dictate his pt
'Cept he's apparently deciding before he ever sees Branch play.
-
Listen guys nobody spot is guaranteed you don't produce you don't play, c jones went from 12th man to starter Felix went from redshirt fresh to starter. I hope rysheed comes in here and sees that his talent will dictate his pt
'Cept he's apparently deciding before he ever sees Branch play.
Like I said, good players these days aren't worried unless they have something to worry about. If Rysheed is scared about playing here, then Temple might be a good choice. Only things that Rysheed played with these guys including Branch when he visited I believe. He knows what is here.
-
I don't think we land him but we have to love our chances. The development of Harrison and Greene can't hurt either in terms of selling our coaching to him. Greene turned himself from a kid who maybe would warrant some minutes to someone who may sniff the NBA in 3 years,
-
Listen guys nobody spot is guaranteed you don't produce you don't play, c jones went from 12th man to starter Felix went from redshirt fresh to starter. I hope rysheed comes in here and sees that his talent will dictate his pt
'Cept he's apparently deciding before he ever sees Branch play.
Like I said, good players these days aren't worried unless they have something to worry about. If Rysheed is scared about playing here, then Temple might be a good choice. Only things that Rysheed played with these guys including Branch when he visited I believe. He knows what is here.
Again, the word isn't "scared", its "start". Harrison, Balamou, and Green - Jordan - two of those DON'T start in 2014.
-
Listen guys nobody spot is guaranteed you don't produce you don't play, c jones went from 12th man to starter Felix went from redshirt fresh to starter. I hope rysheed comes in here and sees that his talent will dictate his pt
'Cept he's apparently deciding before he ever sees Branch play.
Like I said, good players these days aren't worried unless they have something to worry about. If Rysheed is scared about playing here, then Temple might be a good choice. Only things that Rysheed played with these guys including Branch when he visited I believe. He knows what is here.
Again, the word isn't "scared", its "start". Harrison, Balamou, and Green - Jordan - two of those DON'T start in 2014.
Good point CR.
-
Listen guys nobody spot is guaranteed you don't produce you don't play, c jones went from 12th man to starter Felix went from redshirt fresh to starter. I hope rysheed comes in here and sees that his talent will dictate his pt
'Cept he's apparently deciding before he ever sees Branch play.
Like I said, good players these days aren't worried unless they have something to worry about. If Rysheed is scared about playing here, then Temple might be a good choice. Only things that Rysheed played with these guys including Branch when he visited I believe. He knows what is here.
Again, the word isn't "scared", its "start". Harrison, Balamou, and Green - Jordan - two of those DON'T start in 2014.
True. As I said, I don't think Harrison will stick around, even it is better for him to do so. Just a gut feeling.
-
Listen guys nobody spot is guaranteed you don't produce you don't play, c jones went from 12th man to starter Felix went from redshirt fresh to starter. I hope rysheed comes in here and sees that his talent will dictate his pt
'Cept he's apparently deciding before he ever sees Branch play.
Like I said, good players these days aren't worried unless they have something to worry about. If Rysheed is scared about playing here, then Temple might be a good choice. Only things that Rysheed played with these guys including Branch when he visited I believe. He knows what is here.
Again, the word isn't "scared", its "start". Harrison, Balamou, and Green - Jordan - two of those DON'T start in 2014.
True. As I said, I don't think Harrison will stick around, even it is better for him to do so. Just a gut feeling.
I honestly think he does, maybe not 4 years but likely 3.
I am sure Lavin will put our feelers for him but unless we take a deep run to get him some over exposure, he may go undrafted.
I am not sure how much you make playing in Europe.
-
Doesn't UCLA have highly rated guards coming in?
And I think Greene sees a lot of time at 2g if we get a pg like Jordan.
-
Doesn't UCLA have highly rated guards coming in?
And I think Greene sees a lot of time at 2g if we get a pg like Jordan.
All shooting guards. No Points. Zach Lavine was originally projected as a point two years ago - but he's grown to 6'4, and could be 6'5 or 6'6 by next October. Turning into an athletic freak wing.
They basically have told Rysheed he's the starter next year if he comes. Kyle can play pg, but the fact Drew is leading the nation in assists playing WITH Kyle kinda offsets that argument. But, they also told that to 4 other PGs who've gone elsewhere - most recently Stevie Clark, who declared for OK State today.
As for Greene at 2G, if D'lo is back, and Felix is there as a soph, not that minutes for him to PLAY at 2G.
-
Doesn't UCLA have highly rated guards coming in?
And I think Greene sees a lot of time at 2g if we get a pg like Jordan.
All shooting guards. No Points. Zach Lavine was originally projected as a point two years ago - but he's grown to 6'4, and could be 6'5 or 6'6 by next October. Turning into an athletic freak wing.
They basically have told Rysheed he's the starter next year if he comes. Kyle can play pg, but the fact Drew is leading the nation in assists playing WITH Kyle kinda offsets that argument. But, they also told that to 4 other PGs who've gone elsewhere - most recently Stevie Clark, who declared for OK State today.
As for Greene at 2G, if D'lo is back, and Felix is there as a soph, not that minutes for him to PLAY at 2G.
Rysheed is a shooting guard... ;)
As far as Levine not being a PG because he is 6'4"... Rysheed is also 6'4"
-
Doesn't UCLA have highly rated guards coming in?
And I think Greene sees a lot of time at 2g if we get a pg like Jordan.
All shooting guards. No Points. Zach Lavine was originally projected as a point two years ago - but he's grown to 6'4, and could be 6'5 or 6'6 by next October. Turning into an athletic freak wing.
They basically have told Rysheed he's the starter next year if he comes. Kyle can play pg, but the fact Drew is leading the nation in assists playing WITH Kyle kinda offsets that argument. But, they also told that to 4 other PGs who've gone elsewhere - most recently Stevie Clark, who declared for OK State today.
As for Greene at 2G, if D'lo is back, and Felix is there as a soph, not that minutes for him to PLAY at 2G.
Rysheed is a shooting guard... ;)
As far as Levine not being a PG because he is 6'4"... Rysheed is also 6'4"
But not projected to grow 2 inches.
-
Could grow to 6'6"? Haha you are really reaching. Rysheed could grow to 6'8" too.
;D
-
Could grow to 6'6"? Haha you are really reaching. Rysheed could grow to 6'8" too.
;D
Methinks CR wants Rysheed bad at UCLA! Fwiw a good sign should we land him here at SJU.
-
Could grow to 6'6"? Haha you are really reaching. Rysheed could grow to 6'8" too.
;D
Good, we need a power forward! :)
-
Could grow to 6'6"? Haha you are really reaching. Rysheed could grow to 6'8" too.
;D
They're basing it on the 3 inches he's grown in the last year and a half. I beleive 'Sheed had BEEN 6'3 for the last 2 years...Earliest report I can pull up on him right now is April 2011 - 6'3 180.
And I'll be thrilled if he picks either school. As I've said thruout the thread, I think he's going to choose Temple - close to home and starting job open.
To be honest, I was hoping for Stevie Clark for UCLA, since he almost reclassified last year and was going to come to UCLA then - but that's personal between me and the "guru" who co-runs UCLA's Scout site.
-
Could grow to 6'6"? Haha you are really reaching. Rysheed could grow to 6'8" too.
;D
They're basing it on the 3 inches he's grown in the last year and a half. I beleive 'Sheed had BEEN 6'3 for the last 2 years...Earliest report I can pull up on him right now is April 2011 - 6'3 180.
And I'll be thrilled if he picks either school. As I've said thruout the thread, I think he's going to choose Temple - close to home and starting job open.
To be honest, I was hoping for Stevie Clark for UCLA, since he almost reclassified last year and was going to come to UCLA then - but that's personal between me and the "guru" who co-runs UCLA's Scout site.
To be honest CR, just love seeing you squirm a bit skating the lines of loyalty. Most of us SJU fans will always only have one team in pole position, but I admire your ability to enjoy several teams at the same time. I truly think you are one of the best posters on these boards and no matter where your loyalty lies, and I'm petty sure where it does, you do a great job being politically correct and unobtrusive in your posts and offer a TON to these boards.
Still hope he chooses SJU or Temple, even with your rationalization as to why Levine will be too tall to play PG whereas Rysheed won't. 8)
-
Could grow to 6'6"? Haha you are really reaching. Rysheed could grow to 6'8" too.
;D
They're basing it on the 3 inches he's grown in the last year and a half. I beleive 'Sheed had BEEN 6'3 for the last 2 years...Earliest report I can pull up on him right now is April 2011 - 6'3 180.
And I'll be thrilled if he picks either school. As I've said thruout the thread, I think he's going to choose Temple - close to home and starting job open.
To be honest, I was hoping for Stevie Clark for UCLA, since he almost reclassified last year and was going to come to UCLA then - but that's personal between me and the "guru" who co-runs UCLA's Scout site.
To be honest CR, just love seeing you squirm a bit skating the lines of loyalty. Most of us SJU fans will always only have one team in pole position, but I admire your ability to enjoy several teams at the same time. I truly think you are one of the best posters on these boards and no matter where your loyalty lies, and I'm petty sure where it does, you do a great job being politically correct and unobtrusive in your posts and offer a TON to these boards.
Still hope he chooses SJU or Temple, even with your rationalization as to why Levine will be too tall to play PG whereas Rysheed won't. 8)
That's not my take. That's the take of Scout's resident "expert" Greg Hicks - that Lavine has outgrown the position and has since been reclassisfied by Scout to SG this October AFTER verballing to UCLA, and THEN he's preaching on his website that Ben Howland should be fired for NOT bringing in a PG in the last two classes, even tho Kyle was Scouts #1 ranked pg in the last class, and Lavine the #6 in this one. Oh, AND that the 13 assist a game (almost 400 assists last year as a junior leading Douglas High to it's 3rd straight Oklahoma state title) Stevie Clark can't be a "real" PG, either, and shouldn't have been recruited at all. My issue with this is it's a repeat of the same BS they spread against Steve Lavin, for bringing onboard Ced Bozeman, who they rated as the best PG in the West as a HS senior, but afteer LAVIN signed him, declared he never was and never would be a point guard and signing him was evidence of Lavin's incompetence as UCLA's head coach.
Sorry you guys are ending up with me sharing some of the baggage I apparently unconciously bring over from other boards....
-
Could grow to 6'6"? Haha you are really reaching. Rysheed could grow to 6'8" too.
;D
They're basing it on the 3 inches he's grown in the last year and a half. I beleive 'Sheed had BEEN 6'3 for the last 2 years...Earliest report I can pull up on him right now is April 2011 - 6'3 180.
And I'll be thrilled if he picks either school. As I've said thruout the thread, I think he's going to choose Temple - close to home and starting job open.
To be honest, I was hoping for Stevie Clark for UCLA, since he almost reclassified last year and was going to come to UCLA then - but that's personal between me and the "guru" who co-runs UCLA's Scout site.
To be honest CR, just love seeing you squirm a bit skating the lines of loyalty. Most of us SJU fans will always only have one team in pole position, but I admire your ability to enjoy several teams at the same time. I truly think you are one of the best posters on these boards and no matter where your loyalty lies, and I'm petty sure where it does, you do a great job being politically correct and unobtrusive in your posts and offer a TON to these boards.
Still hope he chooses SJU or Temple, even with your rationalization as to why Levine will be too tall to play PG whereas Rysheed won't. 8)
That's not my take. That's the take of Scout's resident "expert" Greg Hicks - that Lavine has outgrown the position and has since been reclassisfied by Scout to SG this October AFTER verballing to UCLA, and THEN he's preaching on his website that Ben Howland should be fired for NOT bringing in a PG in the last two classes, even tho Kyle was Scouts #1 ranked pg in the last class, and Lavine the #6 in this one. Oh, AND that the 13 assist a game (almost 400 assists last year as a junior leading Douglas High to it's 3rd straight Oklahoma state title) Stevie Clark can't be a "real" PG, either, and shouldn't have been recruited at all. My issue with this is it's a repeat of the same BS they spread against Steve Lavin, for bringing onboard Ced Bozeman, who they rated as the best PG in the West as a HS senior, but afteer LAVIN signed him, declared he never was and never would be a point guard and signing him was evidence of Lavin's incompetence as UCLA's head coach.
Sorry you guys are ending up with me sharing some of the baggage I apparently unconciously bring over from other boards....
Don't be sorry. We know where you're coming from. We enjoy your presence on this board very much.
-
CR: What does Hicks have against UCLA?
-
And CR, given the noise already out there re: Howland, do you think he will survive at UCLA?
-
FWIW ESPN insiders predicted the top unsigned players in 2013 and where they would end up-
http://insider.espn.go.com/college-sports/recruiting/basketball/mens/story/_/id/8691676/staff-predictions-undecided-espn-100-basketball-recruits (http://insider.espn.go.com/college-sports/recruiting/basketball/mens/story/_/id/8691676/staff-predictions-undecided-espn-100-basketball-recruits)
Jordan-
Biancardi- Temple
Finkelstein- STJ
Francisco- Cuse
LaPlante- STJ
Rankin- Temple
Stovall- Rutgers
Telep- STJ
Lawrence-
Biancardi- STJ
Finkelstein- STJ
Francisco- Cuse
LaPlante- Cuse
Rankin- STJ
Stovall- Cincy
Telep- Cincy
-
Philadelphia Daily News says he's going to decide when he gets back from UCLA...
Rutgers, Cincy, and Cuse are out of it supposedly.
3 team race: St Johns, UCLA, Temple
http://articles.philly.com/2012-11-30/sports/35512916_1_vaux-star-jordan-rysheed-jordan-kamal-yard (http://articles.philly.com/2012-11-30/sports/35512916_1_vaux-star-jordan-rysheed-jordan-kamal-yard)
ESPN Rumors has a link to this as well..
Rysheed Jordan (Vaux Roberts High/Philadelphia), ESPN's No. 66 overall player in the Class of 2013, is down to three programs according to the Philadelphia Daily News. The 6-foot-3 point guard will select from St. John's, Temple and UCLA.
Jordan will take a trip cross-country this week to UCLA and expects to decide shortly after he arrives home.
"When I come back, I'm going to give a verbal commitment to one of those schools," Jordan said.
Speculation here, but his hometown program would be a good fit. Temple is in need of a point guard with Khalif Wyatt (13 points and 5.5 assists a game) graduating after this season and Jordan could be that guy. He wouldn't necessarily have the same chance to immediately impact either St. John's or UCLA, who both have talented and young guards.
http://insider.espn.go.com/ncb/features/rumors/_/date/20121201#9124 (http://insider.espn.go.com/ncb/features/rumors/_/date/20121201#9124)
-
And CR, given the noise already out there re: Howland, do you think he will survive at UCLA?
Well, it's tough to tell . He seems to be in "Lavin in 2002" hell. 2002 was thinking you were in "get to the final four or you're gone" level, then finding you've been stabbed in the back when it was revealed the AD had called and offered the job to Rick Pitino - DURING the season. Steve could only get his sblindsided team to the Sweet 16. 2003 was Lame Duck, Done deal starting the season, and everyone knew it.
The difference is, Howland has better talent - and the main drag ON the court just quit the team. He's got a pg who's ALREADY won an NCAA title running the team. He has McDonalds All Americans at EVERY position, and an extra one off the bench - and his leading scorer ISN'T one of them. It will really depend if the team pulls for him or not. It's amazing to watch the trolls come out on the boards for a two day feeding frenzy like when Smith quit --- "coach is stupid", "coach is incometent", "coach as lost control", "nobody wants to play for him", "he can't recruit anymore, no one will even consider him", "more transfers to come", "team has quit on him" ---- and then have the team post a 20 pt blowout win, have it announced Rysheed is in town for an official, Clark is announcing between OK St, Baylor & UCLA - and the boards are suddenly a ghost town :)
He's 5-2, coming off a 19-11 season. He's the only guy coaching D-1 who's taken his team to 3 final fours in the last 6 seasons. Kentucky has only 2 in the last decade. Duke only has two in the last Decade. Florida has two in the last Decade. Uconn HAS had 3 in the last 8 years, but their coach is gone. Calipari, would have three, but the NCAA has vacated Memphis' 2008 season and NCAA tourney appearance for use of an inlegible player - Derrick Rose. Ironically, it was Memphis in 2008 who knocked off UCLA in the final four, and likely prevented Ben and the Kevin Love, Russell Westbrook, Darren Collison, Luc Mbah a Moute Bruins from winning the title - which would have silenced ALL this BS for at least a couple more years :)
Personally I think he's got a young team, he's doing very much what WE'RE doing - still breaking in players, seeing who fits, who plays well with who, what offense will work, what defense will work. He's integrating 4 freshmen, and the main cog that didn't fit with the team that IS developing, Josh Smith, has been excised. And they've still got up to THIRTY THREE more games to play this year. I think the bandwagon will be pretty full in Bruinland come March. And most of the @ssholes of today will be taking bows for how their "constructive criticism" turned the team around....
-
CR Do you miss the call -in show after the Bruin games.So many reasonable callers.
-
FWIW ESPN insiders predicted the top unsigned players in 2013 and where they would end up-
http://insider.espn.go.com/college-sports/recruiting/basketball/mens/story/_/id/8691676/staff-predictions-undecided-espn-100-basketball-recruits (http://insider.espn.go.com/college-sports/recruiting/basketball/mens/story/_/id/8691676/staff-predictions-undecided-espn-100-basketball-recruits)
Jordan-
Biancardi- Temple
Finkelstein- STJ
Francisco- Cuse
LaPlante- STJ
Rankin- Temple
Stovall- Rutgers
Telep- STJ
Lawrence-
Biancardi- STJ
Finkelstein- STJ
Francisco- Cuse
LaPlante- Cuse
Rankin- STJ
Stovall- Cincy
Telep- Cincy
Let's hope Finkelstein knows what he's talking about.
-
FWIW ESPN insiders predicted the top unsigned players in 2013 and where they would end up-
http://insider.espn.go.com/college-sports/recruiting/basketball/mens/story/_/id/8691676/staff-predictions-undecided-espn-100-basketball-recruits (http://insider.espn.go.com/college-sports/recruiting/basketball/mens/story/_/id/8691676/staff-predictions-undecided-espn-100-basketball-recruits)
Jordan-
Biancardi- Temple
Finkelstein- STJ
Francisco- Cuse
LaPlante- STJ
Rankin- Temple
Stovall- Rutgers
Telep- STJ
Lawrence-
Biancardi- STJ
Finkelstein- STJ
Francisco- Cuse
LaPlante- Cuse
Rankin- STJ
Stovall- Cincy
Telep- Cincy
Let's hope Finkelstein knows what he's talking about.
Finkelstein is the best -- unless he is wrong ;)
-
Could grow to 6'6"? Haha you are really reaching. Rysheed could grow to 6'8" too.
;D
They're basing it on the 3 inches he's grown in the last year and a half. I beleive 'Sheed had BEEN 6'3 for the last 2 years...Earliest report I can pull up on him right now is April 2011 - 6'3 180.
And I'll be thrilled if he picks either school. As I've said thruout the thread, I think he's going to choose Temple - close to home and starting job open.
To be honest, I was hoping for Stevie Clark for UCLA, since he almost reclassified last year and was going to come to UCLA then - but that's personal between me and the "guru" who co-runs UCLA's Scout site.
To be honest CR, just love seeing you squirm a bit skating the lines of loyalty. Most of us SJU fans will always only have one team in pole position, but I admire your ability to enjoy several teams at the same time. I truly think you are one of the best posters on these boards and no matter where your loyalty lies, and I'm petty sure where it does, you do a great job being politically correct and unobtrusive in your posts and offer a TON to these boards.
Still hope he chooses SJU or Temple, even with your rationalization as to why Levine will be too tall to play PG whereas Rysheed won't. 8)
That's not my take. That's the take of Scout's resident "expert" Greg Hicks - that Lavine has outgrown the position and has since been reclassisfied by Scout to SG this October AFTER verballing to UCLA, and THEN he's preaching on his website that Ben Howland should be fired for NOT bringing in a PG in the last two classes, even tho Kyle was Scouts #1 ranked pg in the last class, and Lavine the #6 in this one. Oh, AND that the 13 assist a game (almost 400 assists last year as a junior leading Douglas High to it's 3rd straight Oklahoma state title) Stevie Clark can't be a "real" PG, either, and shouldn't have been recruited at all. My issue with this is it's a repeat of the same BS they spread against Steve Lavin, for bringing onboard Ced Bozeman, who they rated as the best PG in the West as a HS senior, but afteer LAVIN signed him, declared he never was and never would be a point guard and signing him was evidence of Lavin's incompetence as UCLA's head coach.
Sorry you guys are ending up with me sharing some of the baggage I apparently unconciously bring over from other boards....
How many other broads, I mean boards, are you talking to? Just because you a good poster don't mean we got no feelings. Unconsciously!
-
Looks like Rasheed brought his brand new rolls royce to LA for the visit.
-
Looks like Rasheed brought his brand new rolls royce to LA for the visit.
Mind clarifying?
-
Well, MOST LIKELY not his, but he posted pics of himself in LA with a brand new rolls. I guess being driven around on his trip with one.
-
No way he picks ucla. They are in shambles right now. The look on kyles face says alot
-
No way he picks ucla. They are in shambles right now. The look on kyles face says alot
That is 2 reasons. Distance and the fact that unless UCLA can get their act together soon they are not making the NCAA's and Howland will be looking for another job.
-
AS long as you win at UCLA, none of this other BS matters. If Howland can get to an Elite 8 or perhaps even Sweet 16, no one will care about Lamb or Smith,
-
AS long as you win at UCLA, none of this other BS matters. If Howland can get to an Elite 8 or perhaps even Sweet 16, no one will care about Lamb or Smith,
Ultimately yes Ted but does UCLA look like a Sweet 16 team now?
Howland got the benefit of the doubt last year because of his reputation as terrific turnaround artist, his overall track record, his top class coming in and the fact that his AD Dan Guerrero didn't want another coaching search after just firing his football coach Neuheisal. Howland is not going to get that benefit this time.
-
AS long as you win at UCLA, none of this other BS matters. If Howland can get to an Elite 8 or perhaps even Sweet 16, no one will care about Lamb or Smith,
Ultimately yes Ted but does UCLA look like a Sweet 16 team now?
Howland got the benefit of the doubt last year because of his reputation as terrific turnaround artist, his overall track record, his top class coming in and the fact that his AD Dan Guerrero didn't want another coaching search after just firing his football coach Neuheisal. Howland is not going to get that benefit this time.
They absolutely look terrible right now.
If Howland doesn't make it to NCAA's he's cooked.
-
AS long as you win at UCLA, none of this other BS matters. If Howland can get to an Elite 8 or perhaps even Sweet 16, no one will care about Lamb or Smith,
Ultimately yes Ted but does UCLA look like a Sweet 16 team now?
Howland got the benefit of the doubt last year because of his reputation as terrific turnaround artist, his overall track record, his top class coming in and the fact that his AD Dan Guerrero didn't want another coaching search after just firing his football coach Neuheisal. Howland is not going to get that benefit this time.
They absolutely look terrible right now.
If Howland doesn't make it to NCAA's he's cooked.
This is a CBI team right now.
-
AS long as you win at UCLA, none of this other BS matters. If Howland can get to an Elite 8 or perhaps even Sweet 16, no one will care about Lamb or Smith,
Ultimately yes Ted but does UCLA look like a Sweet 16 team now?
Howland got the benefit of the doubt last year because of his reputation as terrific turnaround artist, his overall track record, his top class coming in and the fact that his AD Dan Guerrero didn't want another coaching search after just firing his football coach Neuheisal. Howland is not going to get that benefit this time.
They absolutely look terrible right now.
If Howland doesn't make it to NCAA's he's cooked.
This is a CBI team right now.
UCLA will be fine. They have a transfer playing his handful of games and three fantastic freshmen. It will take some time for them to gel, but lookout come February.
-
AS long as you win at UCLA, none of this other BS matters. If Howland can get to an Elite 8 or perhaps even Sweet 16, no one will care about Lamb or Smith,
Ultimately yes Ted but does UCLA look like a Sweet 16 team now?
Howland got the benefit of the doubt last year because of his reputation as terrific turnaround artist, his overall track record, his top class coming in and the fact that his AD Dan Guerrero didn't want another coaching search after just firing his football coach Neuheisal. Howland is not going to get that benefit this time.
They absolutely look terrible right now.
If Howland doesn't make it to NCAA's he's cooked.
This is a CBI team right now.
UCLA will be fine. They have a transfer playing his handful of games and three fantastic freshmen. It will take some time for them to gel, but lookout come February.
Possibly, but there is a lot of pressure on these kids, and we don't know which direction it will turn. As we've seen here at SJ, super hyped freshman can become overwhelmed with the attention. Now, UCLA will have to play knowing that the guy who brought them out there could be fired in 4 months. Maybe sooner, who knows?
-
I have been saying and hearing Temple for the last month.. But heard today from a pretty connected dude that we are leading .. Which pretty much means I'm confused and he will probably pick Stony Brook :)
-
I have been saying and hearing Temple for the last month.. But heard today from a pretty connected dude that we are leading .. Which pretty much means I'm confused and he will probably pick Stony Brook :)
Sounds good to me, go with your latest feeling.... :2funny:
-
Sure hope that is the case.
-
on his instagram he says "7 more days til the day y'all been waiting for..."
assume he's announcing...
-
Next Sunday it is it seems. Well one way or another, it will be done. C'mon Rysheed...SJU!
-
Odds on this getting pushed AGAIN? Even money?
-
U can relive those magic moments on coach K for sega genesis!
:crazy2:
Can we please remain on topic
Rysheed is a big piece of this puzzle moving forward
I imagine if Sanchez is cleared he will be done after this season
Which leaves one more ship for mainstory
-
Enough about Felipe and Zendon, this thread is about Rysheed Jordan. If anyone wants to continue the discussion about Felipe and Zendon let me know and I will pull out those posts and move them into a new topic on the main board.
-
Not to distract from the topic at hand;
But Jordan's trip should be over, anyone have an indication which way he's leading?
-
It would really set our program apart if we could have a top 20 point guard willing to wait his turn at SJ. That's how we compete with programs like Louisville and SU. One guy leaves, you dig into your bag of tricks, and there's always something there.
-
It would really set our program apart if we could have a top 20 point guard willing to wait his turn at SJ. That's how we compete with programs like Louisville and SU. One guy leaves, you dig into your bag of tricks, and there's always something there.
Not sure should assume he is willing to wait his turn.
-
Mods can you move the Felipe talk to another thread?
-
Mods can you move the Felipe talk to another thread?
Done. The Felipe discussion now has its own thread on the main board. Let's please keep this thread on Rysheed please
-
Would love to see this kid don a St. John's uniform.
-
Would love to see this kid don a St. John's uniform.
'don'
nice word usage based on tomorrow (or later today for you guys back east)
-
Watched the Temple vs Nova game last night on ESPN.
Not a 100% sure but it looked like Rysheed was sitting right behind the Temple team bench.
Now that cannot be a good sign.
-
Watched the Temple vs Nova game last night on ESPN.
Not a 100% sure but it looked like Rysheed was sitting right behind the Temple team bench.
Now that cannot be a good sign.
Because going to games is sure sign indicator? Hello Corey Fisher among the scores of other NYC players who practically lived behind our bench.
He lives in Philly. Lets panic about the USF game and not Rysheed sitting at a game between 2 Philly schools.
-
Agree with Moose. Bigger issue is playing time available at Temple IMO. We'll see. If we don't get him, CHilleB can get us a shooting guard, Severe! Ha!
-
Watched the Temple vs Nova game last night on ESPN.
Not a 100% sure but it looked like Rysheed was sitting right behind the Temple team bench.
Now that cannot be a good sign.
Because going to games is sure sign indicator? Hello Corey Fisher among the scores of other NYC players who practically lived behind our bench.
He lives in Philly. Lets panic about the USF game and not Rysheed sitting at a game between 2 Philly schools.
Did not realize my post put me in PANIC mode. Think you are reading into a simple post just a little to much. Just adding some information to the site.....
-
Watched the Temple vs Nova game last night on ESPN.
Not a 100% sure but it looked like Rysheed was sitting right behind the Temple team bench.
Now that cannot be a good sign.
Because going to games is sure sign indicator? Hello Corey Fisher among the scores of other NYC players who practically lived behind our bench.
He lives in Philly. Lets panic about the USF game and not Rysheed sitting at a game between 2 Philly schools.
Did not realize my post put me in PANIC mode. Think you are reading into a simple post just a little to much. Just adding some information to the site.....
You said "Now that cannot be a good sign"
If you didn't say that I probably wouldn't have responded.
-
Watched the Temple vs Nova game last night on ESPN.
Not a 100% sure but it looked like Rysheed was sitting right behind the Temple team bench.
Now that cannot be a good sign.
Because going to games is sure sign indicator? Hello Corey Fisher among the scores of other NYC players who practically lived behind our bench.
He lives in Philly. Lets panic about the USF game and not Rysheed sitting at a game between 2 Philly schools.
Did not realize my post put me in PANIC mode. Think you are reading into a simple post just a little to much. Just adding some information to the site.....
You said "Now that cannot be a good sign"
If you didn't say that I probably wouldn't have responded.
Moose is the charter member, and President of the Panic Police on the jungle. If you need any lieutenants , I'm your man.
I've said it before, but, I think STJ fans, this year more so than years past, have completely left the reservation when it comes to blowing things out of proportion and overreacting.
This isn't directed at you, Red2395, so you know. More of a general observation.
I knew you poeple were nuts, but this year....wow...Must be all that Mayan crap or something.
-
Wonder if he's still announcing tomorrow? As for him being at a Temple game. He lives around the block. Anybody remember Corey Fisher attendng as many games as a season ticket holder?
-
Hopefully we are still in this and have representation;
“@jmverlin: Phil Martelli and Fran Dunphy are in the building; Dunphy's likely here for Rysheed Jordan, a 6-4 PG from Vaux.”
-
Thx Ted!
“@Raczok: Chiles is the man #qstjbb RT @matt_breen: At Philly U for Vaux hoops game. St Johns asst is here to see Rysheed Jordan”
-
“@AdamZagoria: Temple, St. John’s Watch Rysheed Jordan http://t.co/PUTt93nh (http://t.co/PUTt93nh)”
-
We need rysheed in the worst way, there's no way he dosent see our lack of creators.
-
temple fans laying it on thick. would be shocked if he doesn't pick Temple.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A9ujAXtCQAEOqML.jpg:large
-
temple fans laying it on thick. would be shocked if he doesn't pick Temple.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A9ujAXtCQAEOqML.jpg:large
No one laid it on more thick than the "one foot in the grave" Hall fans last year with Kyle Anderson. How did that turn out for them in South Orange?
I agree he must be leaning towards Temple but we have a legit shot here. Chiles has worked him very hard.
-
temple fans laying it on thick. would be shocked if he doesn't pick Temple.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A9ujAXtCQAEOqML.jpg:large
Rysheed can come to a SJU game. Our student section can make signs too. In fact, I bet we can make at least TWO signs... ;)
-
A week ago, Jordan took an official visit to UCLA. He says the decision between the Bruins and his other two finalists -- Temple and St. John's -- is becoming more and more difficult.
"I feel like I could make up my mind at anytime," said Jordan. "I could wake up tomorrow and want to make a decision.
"I've seen everything I need to see, I just need to pick."
http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1447435 (http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1447435)
-
http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/high_school/pennsylvania/20121209_Rysheed_Jordan_carries_Vaux_to_victory.html (http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/high_school/pennsylvania/20121209_Rysheed_Jordan_carries_Vaux_to_victory.html)
Last weekend, Jordan made an official visit to UCLA and whittled his list down to the Bruins, St. John's and Temple. He said he is in no rush to make his decision and is not ready to set a date for it. Temple coach Fran Dunphy was in the stands on Sunday, as was St. John's assistant Tony Chiles.
"I could wake up tomorrow and make my decision," Jordan said.
Jordan lives just west of Temple's North Philadelphia campus and said he considers the school home. Earlier this season, fans in the Owls' student section lifted a sign that said: "We want Rysheed Jordan."
"They made me feel like a big deal," Jordan said.
-
Eric Bossi has an update.
Not much new just talks about how he enjoyed his UCLA visit and that he is down to the 3 schools everyone knows:
Lately, though, what people want to know about is any direction that Jordan may be leaning in. He's down to Temple, St. John's and UCLA and took his final visit to Westwood a week and a half ago.
"The visit was great," said Jordan of Westwood. "The campus was great. I liked the school. I talked to the academic advisers and they were great."
Jordan also spoke about each of his other two finalists beginning with Temple.
"Growing up I used to always go to Temple games," said Jordan. "Seeing them play more and more every day I started liking them more."
With Steve Lavin at the helm St. John's has proven they will put athletes on the floor.
"I like that they get up and down the floor," said Jordan of the Red Storm. "They share the ball an they have pretty good big guys who can catch the ball and finish."
So far, Jordan has been unable to set a timetable for making a decision. He feels that he's seen everything he needs to see from each program and just needs time to decide.
"Maybe I'll wake up one day and make a decision,' said Jordan. "I'm just not ready yet. I'm just taking my time."
http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1448349 (http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1448349)
-
“@pompeysgridlock: Temple target Rysheed Jordan is in the house.”
“@sheedjordan: “@cnmenta: @OwlScoop_com @sheedjordan And 7 dudes in the front of the student have R-Y-S-H-E-E-D spelled across their torsos” were the pic”
Wonder if those Seton Hall fans shadowing Anderson last year would have succeeded if they went with "full torso" look. Lol
-
I'm hoping he waits a while. I think the longer it goes, the better for us. Wouldn't mind if he made a Garden game or two and see what bball is really like. Perfect one might be our first against Nova.
-
Where not getting him, those quotes don't have any emotional attachment to them and sound cliche' and hollow. But on the other hand I'm a bit confident with Lawrence
-
Where not getting him, those quotes don't have any emotional attachment to them and sound cliche' and hollow. But on the other hand I'm a bit confident with Lawrence
Agree
-
Where not getting him, those quotes don't have any emotional attachment to them and sound cliche' and hollow. But on the other hand I'm a bit confident with Lawrence
Were not getting him off a quote? C'mon man, you're reaching
-
Where not getting him, those quotes don't have any emotional attachment to them and sound cliche' and hollow. But on the other hand I'm a bit confident with Lawrence
Were not getting him off a quote? C'mon man, you're reaching
I'll be a bit more specific, not just the quote but I've just felt this way for a bit, if you feel different kudos to your optimism but I'm just going off a realistic hunch. However did that quote make you feel any more confident in his choice? I know It didn't for me.
-
Where not getting him, those quotes don't have any emotional attachment to them and sound cliche' and hollow. But on the other hand I'm a bit confident with Lawrence
Were not getting him off a quote? C'mon man, you're reaching
I'll be a bit more specific, not just the quote but I've just felt this way for a bit, if you feel different kudos to your optimism but I'm just going off a realistic hunch. However did that quote make you feel any more confident in his choice? I know It didn't for me.
I have no idea where he goes but I do think we have a 50/50 shot. Wouldn't be surprised if he picks Temple or St John's but that quote specifically didn't seem to expose anything. We'll see hopefully your gut is wrong :)
-
Where not getting him, those quotes don't have any emotional attachment to them and sound cliche' and hollow. But on the other hand I'm a bit confident with Lawrence
Were not getting him off a quote? C'mon man, you're reaching
I'll be a bit more specific, not just the quote but I've just felt this way for a bit, if you feel different kudos to your optimism but I'm just going off a realistic hunch. However did that quote make you feel any more confident in his choice? I know It didn't for me.
What quote though? From the Rivals piece?
SJU may not get him but he hardly said anything but cliches about all 3 schools.
I actually think the kid is doing a good job not tipping his hand.
-
Where not getting him, those quotes don't have any emotional attachment to them and sound cliche' and hollow. But on the other hand I'm a bit confident with Lawrence
Were not getting him off a quote? C'mon man, you're reaching
I'll be a bit more specific, not just the quote but I've just felt this way for a bit, if you feel different kudos to your optimism but I'm just going off a realistic hunch. However did that quote make you feel any more confident in his choice? I know It didn't for me.
I have no idea where he goes but I do think we have a 50/50 shot. Wouldn't be surprised if he picks Temple or St John's but that quote specifically didn't seem to expose anything. We'll see hopefully your gut is wrong :)
Yeah none of "those" quotes exposed anything that's why I said they were cliche an showed no emotional attachment. But my reasoning isn't just off the quotes nor did it originate from the quotes because if that was the case it sounded like he's never going to commit
-
Where not getting him, those quotes don't have any emotional attachment to them and sound cliche' and hollow. But on the other hand I'm a bit confident with Lawrence
Were not getting him off a quote? C'mon man, you're reaching
I'll be a bit more specific, not just the quote but I've just felt this way for a bit, if you feel different kudos to your optimism but I'm just going off a realistic hunch. However did that quote make you feel any more confident in his choice? I know It didn't for me.
What quote though? From the Rivals piece?
SJU may not get him but he hardly said anything but cliches about all 3 schools.
I actually think the kid is doing a good job not tipping his hand.
You just repeated what I wrote , maybe the way I typed it made it look like I was blaming it on a quote . But I said "those" quotes as to not specify but generalize all the quotes in the piece in being cliche. I stated how I felt then gave my opinion on how I felt about the quotes from the piece.
-
Rysheed Jordan in a St. John's uni would make me happy... Rysheed Jordan In another uni wouldn't surprise me
-
Where not getting him, those quotes don't have any emotional attachment to them and sound cliche' and hollow. But on the other hand I'm a bit confident with Lawrence
Were not getting him off a quote? C'mon man, you're reaching
I'll be a bit more specific, not just the quote but I've just felt this way for a bit, if you feel different kudos to your optimism but I'm just going off a realistic hunch. However did that quote make you feel any more confident in his choice? I know It didn't for me.
What quote though? From the Rivals piece?
SJU may not get him but he hardly said anything but cliches about all 3 schools.
I actually think the kid is doing a good job not tipping his hand.
You just repeated what I wrote , maybe the way I typed it made it look like I was blaming it on a quote . But I said "those" quotes as to not specify but generalize all the quotes in the piece in being cliche. I stated how I felt then gave my opinion on how I felt about the quotes from the piece.
Then you are right I misinterpreted what you wrote. This does eerily remind me of the Anderson/ SHU recruitment. He goes to their games as they are close by and retweets some of their stuff. Heck even SJU and UCLA are finalists again.
I think SJU is right there.
-
[ @ ] blackjesus_4 Temple showed mad love tonight...
(http://distilleryimage4.s3.amazonaws.com/9bbec29e44cb11e2ad6322000a9f14f2_7.jpg)
-
[ @ ] blackjesus_4 Temple showed mad love tonight...
(http://distilleryimage4.s3.amazonaws.com/9bbec29e44cb11e2ad6322000a9f14f2_7.jpg)
I think it would have a better effect if it was topless girls with his name on their bodies
-
This guy would be my favorite recruit we have brought in the last couple of years. With the names we have got here, that is not easy for me to say. I really hope he comes here and doesn't go to the glorified CUSA.
-
if the BE dissolves, this could make Rysheed's mind up immediately...
-
if the BE dissolves, this could make Rysheed's mind up immediately...
Hopefully it does. Georgetown, Villanova, Marquette and St. John's, plus whoever we add >>> Memphis, Temple and two schools pleading to get out.
-
Not a clue what this kid is thinking but they are trying to get him to a game at the Garden before he decides.
-
Not a clue what this kid is thinking but they are trying to get him to a game at the Garden before he decides.
Too bad we don't play at the Garden for another month
-
I'm hoping he waits a while. I think the longer it goes, the better for us. Wouldn't mind if he made a Garden game or two and see what bball is really like. Perfect one might be our first against Nova.
Oh so you would like to see him make it to a Knick game. :)
-
Not a clue what this kid is thinking but they are trying to get him to a game at the Garden before he decides.
Maybe he can sit behind the SJU bench at the Jan 2nd game at the Pavilion....
-
Not a clue what this kid is thinking but they are trying to get him to a game at the Garden before he decides.
Maybe he can sit behind the SJU bench at the Jan 2nd game at the Pavilion....
NY POST HEADLINE on Rysheed visit to MSG:
(Black) Jesus visits Mecca
-
Not a clue what this kid is thinking but they are trying to get him to a game at the Garden before he decides.
Let's compromise and get him to the Barclays Center.
-
Not a clue what this kid is thinking but they are trying to get him to a game at the Garden before he decides.
Let's compromise and get him to the Barclays Center.
Give him one of your 13 tickets then Maher LOL
CC Moose
-
Carrington Carries VILLA Classic
Alex Kline
TheRecruitScoop.com Publisher
Talk about it in the Message Boards
GLENSIDE, PA - As the VILLA Classic was full of superstars in a showdown of five games pitting teams from New York against teams from Philadelphia, numerous recruits showed off their skills. With UConn's Kevin Ollie, Providence's Ed Cooley, Temple's Fran Dunphy and Villanova's Jay Wright taking in the action, along with assistants from Drexel, Xavier, Rider, Florida International and elsewhere, the top performance of the day was without a question, Khadeen Carrington.
Carrington Continues Hot Flash
Ranked No. 94 in the Rivals150, the 2014 6-foot-3 shooting guard showed off his ability to attack the rim in bunches. This not only led to an MVP performance, but the recording of his 1,000th career point. The Bishop Loughlin (NY) product credits his improved jumper and improved ability at seeing the floor to his improved success on the court.
After picking up an offer from Florida State last week, the four-star prospect hopes to get on the Seminoles campus in near time. UConn, Cincinnati, West Virginia, Rutgers, St. John's and others have also offered the talented guard, who says that the Huskies, Mountaineers, Bearcats and Seminoles are standing out the most to him because of how frequently they stay in contact. With Kevin Ollie in attendance Saturday, it gave him a perspective of what Carrington could do against some real talent and a tough atmosphere. Carrington came up big in front of the coach who he is starting to grasp onto.
Whitehead Weaving Through Recruiting Process
Struggling in his past two games, Isaiah Whitehead is ready to break out of a mini slump after weekend losses to St. Frances (MD) and Imhotep Charter (PA). As he is still one of the top guards in the nation - ranked No. 13 in his class - Whitehead is ready to bring his usual intensity back to the court.
On a different note, his recruitment is winding down. As he hopes to cut his list to five schools by next month, Whitehead says that Syracuse, UCLA and Louisville are standing out at this point, while Rutgers and St. John's haven't been in constant contact as before.
While Syracuse has caught the eye of the five-star prospect from Lincoln (NY), his mind isn't made up yet.
"If I was a lock for Syracuse, I would have committed by now," he told Rivals.com following his game at the VILLA Classic. "My mind hasn't been made up yet."
Regarding Louisville, UCLA and Syracuse standing out - the Orange have shown him plenty of attention, he could play alongside close friend Chris McCullough and he would only be around four hours away from home. When Louisville came by to watch him workout, they showed him film and Whitehead was intrigued by how he could fit into the offense. UCLA has gotten him on campus before, but could the Pac-12 be out of range because of how far away it is? That's certainly possible.
As for now, Whitehead may be cutting his list to five soon, but he doesn't intent to commit until his senior year.
Rysheed Addresses Rumors
2013 Robert Vaux (PA) point guard Rysheed Jordan has heard nearly every rumor about his recruitment within the past few months. While it hasn't struck gotten to him yet, he could end his recruitment any minute.
"It could happen at anytime," he told Rivals.com following his game. "I haven't made up my mind, but everyone will know."
As far as rumors of Temple being to close, UNLV being the odd man out and St. John's being the likely destination because of the style of play and ideal location, Jordan denied it all.
"None of that's true," he echoed.
Down to the Bruins, Red Storm and Owls, the No. 29 player in the Rivals150 for the class of 2013 could make his move at any minute.
-
“@DanielJMartin_: #STJbb target Rysheed Jordan had 40 points for Vaux today against Miller School, per @CFAClassic.”
-
“@DanielJMartin_: #STJbb target Rysheed Jordan had 40 points for Vaux today against Miller School, per @CFAClassic.”
To bad it happened the day after we blew one to Asheville and temple upsets the number 3 school in the country
-
“@DanielJMartin_: Rysheed Jordan #STJbb >> RT @CFAClassic: Jordan had 80 points in three games in Columbia! 7 three-pointers today in the 40-point effort.”
-
:D
“@DanielJMartin_: Rysheed Jordan #STJbb >> RT @CFAClassic: Jordan had 80 points in three games in Columbia! 7 three-pointers today in the 40-point effort.”
Him and carrington would be a dynamic backcourt
-
:D“@DanielJMartin_: Rysheed Jordan #STJbb >> RT @CFAClassic: Jordan had 80 points in three games in Columbia! 7 three-pointers today in the 40-point effort.”
Him and carrington would be a dynamic backcourt
Think they are impressed with our "weave"? Lol
-
Sure hope one of our coaches was there.
-
Playing in Trenton NJ tonight. Hopefully Lavin is there.
-
A feature on Rysheed:
http://www.usatodayhss.com/secretweapon/article/rysheed-jordan-secret-weapon-training-video (http://www.usatodayhss.com/secretweapon/article/rysheed-jordan-secret-weapon-training-video)
Theres a video interview on him in there. No news but he talks about how he likes to pass the ball and find his teammates. I want this guy bad.
-
Also:
Rysheed Jordan - The Journey Episode #1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7ozwH8APXg#ws)
<3 (no homo)
-
Thanks for posting those vids. Kid is dynamite athlete. His jumper looks pretty good as well. We desperately need guys like him who can break down a defense.
Anyone else see a little bit if Tyshawn Taylor?
-
Thanks for posting those vids. Kid is dynamite athlete. His jumper looks pretty good as well. We desperately need guys like him who can break down a defense.
Anyone else see a little bit if Tyshawn Taylor?
Better.. Really like this kid
-
i really like our chances. if he was so in love with Temple he would've committed. the fact that he's waiting (presumably for a Garden visit) speaks volumes.
-
Short walk to Temple, so....
“@sheedjordan: When I go to college who gone come visit me???”
-
Short walk to Temple, so....
“@sheedjordan: When I go to college who gone come visit me???”
It wouldn't really be a visit if he is still home, but if we are talking NYC.... :)
-
Short walk to Temple, so....
“@sheedjordan: When I go to college who gone come visit me???”
Sounds like he's saying he isn't going to college in his hometown. Promising...
-
Short walk to Temple, so....
“@sheedjordan: When I go to college who gone come visit me???”
Sounds like he's saying he isn't going to college in his hometown. Promising...
My point, hope so.
-
Short walk to Temple, so....
“@sheedjordan: When I go to college who gone come visit me???”
Sounds like he's saying he isn't going to college in his hometown. Promising...
My point, hope so.
Nice recovery paultzman, I took your post to mean you meant the opposite-that it looks like Temple. :) :) :)
-
Short walk to Temple, so....
“@sheedjordan: When I go to college who gone come visit me???”
Sounds like he's saying he isn't going to college in his hometown. Promising...
My point, hope so.
Nice recovery paultzman, I took your post to mean you meant the opposite-that it looks like Temple. :) :) :)
Report on the Bruin Scout site that Rysheed's now waiting till spring to declare (a change from his quote 3 weeks ago that "it could happen anytime". Scout's take is it's to see how the coaching situation at UCLA shakes out before making a final decision. Of course the fanboard is going nuts trying to interpret if that means he would WANT to play for Howland, and won't decide till he knows he'll still be there, or whether it's a wait and see who would replace him.
I think it means it ain't Temple. No need to wait, if that's the final choice. I think it's wait on UCLA for the Coaching situation, and wait on St. Johns to better evaluate Branch's impact. I think he wan't to see the Johnnies play another 20+ games, get a feel for whether Jamal is serious competition for the same position, or if he's someone who could compliment Rysheed on the court. (While it CAN be a problem, two guards with PG skills ain't necessarily a bad thing - I'm sure Coach Lavin has already reminded young Jordan of his two years with Baron Davis and Earl Watson as his starting backcourt)....
-
Short walk to Temple, so....
“@sheedjordan: When I go to college who gone come visit me???”
Sounds like he's saying he isn't going to college in his hometown. Promising...
My point, hope so.
Nice recovery paultzman, I took your post to mean you meant the opposite-that it looks like Temple. :) :) :)
Report on the Bruin Scout site that Rysheed's now waiting till spring to declare (a change from his quote 3 weeks ago that "it could happen anytime". Scout's take is it's to see how the coaching situation at UCLA shakes out before making a final decision. Of course the fanboard is going nuts trying to interpret if that means he would WANT to play for Howland, and won't decide till he knows he'll still be there, or whether it's a wait and see who would replace him.
I think it means it ain't Temple. No need to wait, if that's the final choice. I think it's wait on UCLA for the Coaching situation, and wait on St. Johns to better evaluate Branch's impact. I think he wan't to see the Johnnies play another 20+ games, get a feel for whether Jamal is serious competition for the same position, or if he's someone who could compliment Rysheed on the court. (While it CAN be a problem, two guards with PG skills ain't necessarily a bad thing - I'm sure Coach Lavin has already reminded young Jordan of his two years with Baron Davis and Earl Watson as his starting backcourt)....
IMO, I've always felt the longer this thing goes, the better for SJU. Still feel that way. I could be wrong of course, but the most time Lavin has to work on Rysheed, the better.
-
He was at the Nova game according to somebody.
Jeff McDevitt@JeffMcDev
Nova and St. John's tied at 10 at 2nd media timeout. Notable attendees tonight are former NBA coach Mike Dunleavy and Vaux G Rysheed Jordan
-
http://scouthoops.scout.com/a.z?s=75&p=2&c=1254761&ssf=1&RequestedURL=http%3a%2f%2fscouthoops.scout.com%2f2%2f1254761.html (http://scouthoops.scout.com/a.z?s=75&p=2&c=1254761&ssf=1&RequestedURL=http%3a%2f%2fscouthoops.scout.com%2f2%2f1254761.html)
Don't know what the whole article says but it looks like he'll decide after his season is over.
-
IMO the longer this goes.. The greater chance he actually picks UCLA. I know he said he wanted to stay close.. But It's tough to turn that down $
-
http://scouthoops.scout.com/a.z?s=75&p=2&c=1254761&ssf=1&RequestedURL=http%3a%2f%2fscouthoops.scout.com%2f2%2f1254761.html (http://scouthoops.scout.com/a.z?s=75&p=2&c=1254761&ssf=1&RequestedURL=http%3a%2f%2fscouthoops.scout.com%2f2%2f1254761.html)
Don't know what the whole article says but it looks like he'll decide after his season is over.
That is what it basically says. No other schools except for the 3-SJU, Temple and UCLA are involved, and he just wants to wait until the end of the season.
-
And promptly Bolts for the glorious Pac 12?
seems like Deja Vu!
a Vinny chase reference anyone?
:-\
BTW isnt it weird that 2 seasons in a row we make top 3 of one our big recruits which include Lavin's old stomping grounds? :(
Hope this one ends better than the last!
(Just provoking thought here nothing more)
I really hope we have some back up options that are ready to go! :uglystupid2:
#STJBB
-
hopefully he sees opportunity!
“@sheedjordan: WAtching the st John game”
-
Just hope he sees a win
-
so hes seen our last two games. Hopefully he makes it to a home game. Also hopefully Jermaine saw us take this one.
-
so hes seen our last two games. Hopefully he makes it to a home game. Also hopefully Jermaine saw us take this one.
He did:
@mainestory
Watchin this Cincy v. St.Johns game
-
And promptly Bolts for the glorious Pac 12?
seems like Deja Vu!
a Vinny chase reference anyone?
:-\
BTW isnt it weird that 2 seasons in a row we make top 3 of one our big recruits which include Lavin's old stomping grounds? :(
Hope this one ends better than the last!
(Just provoking thought here nothing more)
I really hope we have some back up options that are ready to go! :uglystupid2:
#STJBB
Biggest difference I see is that if Coach Lavin had LOIs from Zach Lavine and Allerick Freeman, he wouldn't be looking for a 3rd guard for next year.
-
And promptly Bolts for the glorious Pac 12?
seems like Deja Vu!
a Vinny chase reference anyone?
:-\
BTW isnt it weird that 2 seasons in a row we make top 3 of one our big recruits which include Lavin's old stomping grounds? :(
Hope this one ends better than the last!
(Just provoking thought here nothing more)
I really hope we have some back up options that are ready to go! :uglystupid2:
#STJBB
Biggest difference I see is that if Coach Lavin had LOIs from Zach Lavine and Allerick Freeman, he wouldn't be looking for a 3rd guard for next year.
I know Kyle feels like he is a one and done but do you think he sticks around a year to play the point at UCLA and improve draft stock. Personally I think that no way in hell is he a point guard but he and his dad feel otherwise, Right now he won't grade too well in draft camps but perhaps another year culd move him into the late first round.
-
Sorry for the double post but getting back to Rysheed. I think he personally loves the process and will wait to the very last moment to announce.
-
Sorry for the double post but getting back to Rysheed. I think he personally loves the process and will wait to the very last moment to announce.
If Rysheed was smart, he would have put Seton Hall on his list. Then he would have had that crew of old guys follow him around.
-
Still think its temple , hope it's sju
-
Could he be waiting to see what the specifics are in regards to the new conferences? See who the C7 add and see where Temple winds up? Maybe he will choose the better two of these leagues?
-
Blah, Blah, Blah
“@sheedjordan: When I win 2mar ima commit.”
-
Blah, Blah, Blah
“@sheedjordan: When I win 2mar ima commit.”
Yeah. Not holding my breath here. And in all honestly a verbal from him is worth nothing to me. I can't get excited over wishy washy. I need signed LOI before I pop bottles.
-
I need signed LOIs and proof of NCAA eligibilty before I start popping bottles w our recruits. LOL
-
Blah, Blah, Blah
“@sheedjordan: When I win 2mar ima commit.”
What if he loses?
-
Blah, Blah, Blah
“@sheedjordan: When I win 2mar ima commit.”
What if he loses?
If he's gnna choose a school in that type of setting ( probably big crowd/ big game) gotta think it's temple. Committing to st johns or UCLA over temple in a hostile home grown environment just dosent make much sense
-
http://insider.espn.go.com/college-sports/recruiting/basketball/mens/story/_/id/8820361/kentucky-reaching-fab-five-status-jabari-parker-more (http://insider.espn.go.com/college-sports/recruiting/basketball/mens/story/_/id/8820361/kentucky-reaching-fab-five-status-jabari-parker-more)
3. Jordan trims list
ESPN 100 prospect Rysheed Jordan (Philadelphia/Vaux Roberts) is the highest-rated senior point guard remaining on the board. Now the Philadelphia playmaker has to decide if he wants to be a Philly point, Los Angeles kid or adopted son of New York City.
By narrowing his list to St. John's, Temple and UCLA, that means he has a Pac-12 school, a soon-to-be Big East college and a member of the "Catholic 7." Jordan pretty much has all his bases covered, including both coasts.
Decisions, decisions, decisions.
"All could use him, and I think he would help those guys," Jordan's summer coach, Kamal Yard, said. "He wants the best situation to where he can put himself in a position to take care of his family. For him, it's a situation where he's going to play right away and audition himself to see if he can make some money playing this game he loves."
-
Oh goodie. Another player already publicly commenting on the next level. We shouldn't sew numbers on the jerseys. They won't last long. Duct tape might be better.
-
Seems like wherever he winds up he is going to be looking for his numbers from Day 1.
-
Seems like wherever he winds up he is going to be looking for his numbers from Day 1.
if that's the case, he's not going to get it here (unless DLo leaves) and he's definitely not getting that at UCLA.
Temple it is.
-
Seems like wherever he winds up he is going to be looking for his numbers from Day 1.
5 spots, 200 minutes, 1 ball
(This is my new saying)
-
Temple has the clearest route to playing time. UCLA signed that Lavine kid, and we've got Branch. I'm not saying Jordan wouldn't eventually start over J Branch, but it's not a sure thing.
If the Rysheed wants to be groomed for the NBA, I think he picks us, if he wants immediate playing time he's staying in Philly.
-
Seems like wherever he winds up he is going to be looking for his numbers from Day 1.
if that's the case, he's not going to get it here (unless DLo leaves) and he's definitely not getting that at UCLA.
Temple it is.
Unless he knows..........
-
Seems like wherever he winds up he is going to be looking for his numbers from Day 1.
if that's the case, he's not going to get it here (unless DLo leaves) and he's definitely not getting that at UCLA.
Temple it is.
Unless he knows..........
That indeed changes everything.
-
Temple has the clearest route to playing time. UCLA signed that Lavine kid, and we've got Branch. I'm not saying Jordan wouldn't eventually start over J Branch, but it's not a sure thing.
If the Rysheed wants to be groomed for the NBA, I think he picks us, if he wants immediate playing time he's staying in Philly.
Easiest route to playing time ? He starts from day 1 here have you not seen our inability to create and horrendous point guard play. Remember the kid is like dom's height at 6'5 he can defend the wing and ply the point,you guys don't think Harrison would welcome some help carrying the scoring burden and being the only go to guy
-
With or without d'lo he starts from day 1. Name one guard besides d'lo who's more talented than him
-
With or without d'lo he starts from day 1. Name one guard besides d'lo who's more talented than him
Agree. Start harrison sheed and branch w/ lawrence and obekpa after jakarr gets drafted 18th overall.
-
Temple has the clearest route to playing time. UCLA signed that Lavine kid, and we've got Branch. I'm not saying Jordan wouldn't eventually start over J Branch, but it's not a sure thing.
If the Rysheed wants to be groomed for the NBA, I think he picks us, if he wants immediate playing time he's staying in Philly.
Easiest route to playing time ? He starts from day 1 here have you not seen our inability to create and horrendous point guard play. Remember the kid is like dom's height at 6'5 he can defend the wing and ply the point,you guys don't think Harrison would welcome some help carrying the scoring burden and being the only go to guy
He's that much better than Branch with 2 years in the system? hands down? I'll take your word for it Chilleb.
No question our point guard play has been horrific, so any help would be welcome.
-
With or without d'lo he starts from day 1. Name one guard besides d'lo who's more talented than him
Agree. Start harrison sheed and branch w/ lawrence and obekpa after jakarr gets drafted 18th overall.
At this point I think the GM's are more interested in obekpa than karr at this point
-
Temple has the clearest route to playing time. UCLA signed that Lavine kid, and we've got Branch. I'm not saying Jordan wouldn't eventually start over J Branch, but it's not a sure thing.
If the Rysheed wants to be groomed for the NBA, I think he picks us, if he wants immediate playing time he's staying in Philly.
Easiest route to playing time ? He starts from day 1 here have you not seen our inability to create and horrendous point guard play. Remember the kid is like dom's height at 6'5 he can defend the wing and ply the point,you guys don't think Harrison would welcome some help carrying the scoring burden and being the only go to guy
He's that much better than Branch with 2 years in the system? hands down? I'll take your word for it Chilleb.
No question our point guard play has been horrific, so any help would be welcome.
Rysheed has an nba game long rangy scorer who handles and defends at 6'4 6'5. As far as running our system no he's not gonna be better than branch but would be an excellent compliment with superior talent than branch. Branch is a heck of a player in his own right just don't think he has the same next level appeal as rysheed. And rightfully so, rysheed is damn good.
-
Would love to get Jordan, but gut tells me Temple fwiw. If Harrison stays, we would be ok if Branch develops this year. In that case, do you concentrate on Carrington for 14 class? Not a preference, but just saying.
-
Would love to get Jordan, but gut tells me Temple fwiw. If Harrison stays, we would be ok if Branch develops this year. In that case, do you concentrate on Carrington for 14 class? Not a preference, but just saying.
How many ships would we have that year?
-
Would love to get Jordan, but gut tells me Temple fwiw. If Harrison stays, we would be ok if Branch develops this year. In that case, do you concentrate on Carrington for 14 class? Not a preference, but just saying.
How many ships would we have that year?
19
-
he probably grew up watching nova's 3 and 4 guard teams cerca 6-8 years ago. Maybe sharing "guard" duties is not a hard sell since he has seen that system get players to the next level already.
-
I don't see a problem getting 4 guards minutes but then pointer and garrett are the 3's with sampson and lawrence? at 4 with obekpa and gift at 5 That leaves no minutes for hooper felix and either marco or jones.
Not advocating a transfer but I don't see this roster with both Marco and Hooper next year and Max is going nowhere. I also really love felix's upside. He is a pleasant surprise.
-
I don't see a problem getting 4 guards minutes but then pointer and garrett are the 3's with sampson and lawrence? at 4 with obekpa and gift at 5 That leaves no minutes for hooper felix and either marco or jones.
Not advocating a transfer but I don't see this roster with both Marco and Hooper next year and Max is going nowhere. I also really love felix's upside. He is a pleasant surprise.
Don't want to take this thread off topic, but no way Gift is starting at center next year Ted. That spot is all Obekpas. Sampson or Jermaine Lawrence are our 4, and after that we can fill in the blanks depending on if you want a 3 guard lineup or what have you.
-
With or without d'lo he starts from day 1. Name one guard besides d'lo who's more talented than him
Agree. Start harrison sheed and branch w/ lawrence and obekpa after jakarr gets drafted 18th overall.
Jakarr isn't going pro. He's too skinny.
-
Really have to be careful here.
-
Really have to be careful here.
Careful with what?
-
Really have to be careful here.
Careful with what?
Like you said, 1 ball. Don't want to complicate things with Harrison. Assuming of course Harrison is here.
-
When did this become a "Jakarr go Pro" thread?
When we got tired of the 8th time Jordan said he would pick a school ;)
-
Sorry, I haven't had time to read every recruiting thread post the last month. Has there been any comment from Jordan's camp on the fact that it's looking more likely that committing to Temple is still committing to the A10. When they were BE bound I could definitely see the allure but the Cincy/UConn conference, if it ever even happens before they jump elsewhere, isn't exactly the same level of hoops as he might have been expecting.
-
Sorry, I haven't had time to read every recruiting thread post the last month. Has there been any comment from Jordan's camp on the fact that it's looking more likely that committing to Temple is still committing to the A10. When they were BE bound I could definitely see the allure but the Cincy/UConn conference, if it ever even happens before they jump elsewhere, isn't exactly the same level of hoops as he might have been expecting.
In addition to this, we should send him a copy of the recent quotes from Anderson and Parker.
-
It, however, is believed the 6-foot-3 Jordan will remain local, at Temple, not St. John’s or UCLA, the other school he is considering.
Read more: RECRUITING CONFIDENTIAL: St. John's coach Steve Lavin has no commitments from 2013 prospects - NYPOST.com http://www.nypost.com/p/blogs/collegesports/recruiting_confidential_st_john_sZ56rFS7fXUWEUsolnkv3K#ixzz2HiEJIhco (http://www.nypost.com/p/blogs/collegesports/recruiting_confidential_st_john_sZ56rFS7fXUWEUsolnkv3K#ixzz2HiEJIhco)
-
I really hope that's not the case
-
I don't get this speculation that Harrison, Sampson and even Obekpa might bolt. None are close to ready IMO. And there is plenty to be gained for all by developing at the collegiate level.
-
I really hope that's not the case
I don't get this speculation that Harrison, Sampson and even Obekpa might bolt. None are close to ready IMO. And there is plenty to be gained for all by developing at the collegiate level.
One maybe, certainly not three IMO.
-
I really hope that's not the case
I don't get this speculation that Harrison, Sampson and even Obekpa might bolt. None are close to ready IMO. And there is plenty to be gained for all by developing at the collegiate level.
One maybe, certainly not three IMO.
After today's debacle against a team that arguably is the biggest and quickest team we've seen this season, these guys were overmatched. None of them is ready for the Association. Porter, otoh, had one of the quietest, most effective games I've seen in a long time; I think he had 20 and 14, he's a glue guy who's going to do well in the NBA because he's effective and plays within a system.
-
I don't get this speculation that Harrison, Sampson and even Obekpa might bolt. None are close to ready IMO. And there is plenty to be gained for all by developing at the collegiate level.
What don't you get? They will be the first 3 picks in this year's NBA draft.
-
I don't get this speculation that Harrison, Sampson and even Obekpa might bolt. None are close to ready IMO. And there is plenty to be gained for all by developing at the collegiate level.
I don't think you have to worry, Nba teams aren't going to be fighting one another to get their hands on any of our players.
I think our entire rotation returns for next year.
Maybe Jones transfers.
Otherwise this.whole team is.coming back.
-
I don't get this speculation that Harrison, Sampson and even Obekpa might bolt. None are close to ready IMO. And there is plenty to be gained for all by developing at the collegiate level.
I don't think you have to worry, Nba teams aren't going to be fighting one another to get their hands on any of our players.
I think our entire rotation returns for next year.
Maybe Jones transfers.
Otherwise this.whole team is.coming back.
Your smart.
You do realize NBA teams don't have to want our guys for them to leave right?
-
So i have a question for those who have seen Jordan play...
Can he shoot? Im not asking if he's reggie miller, but can he hit an open jumper if given time and space? Shoot 70% from the.foul line?
I think this needs to be.asked of any recruit were looking at.
-
I don't get this speculation that Harrison, Sampson and even Obekpa might bolt. None are close to ready IMO. And there is plenty to be gained for all by developing at the collegiate level.
I don't think you have to worry, Nba teams aren't going to be fighting one another to get their hands on any of our players.
I think our entire rotation returns for next year.
Maybe Jones transfers.
Otherwise this.whole team is.coming back.
Your smart.
You do realize NBA teams don't have to want our guys for them to leave right?
Of course Moose. But i don't think our players are entirely brain dead. There's.got to be some whispers of Nba interest for jakarr or Chris to come.out. and i don't see there being any buzz for either of them this year.
Its not even like they'll get mixed responses if they put feelers out. It'll be a resounding "no thanks".
On the other hand if dangelo wants to knowingly head to Europe.and.pull a Dominican Cheek.. hey, its his life. Do what you gotta do. But he likes the spot light, and he must see he has the opportunity to pickup a lot of awards and accolaydes by returning.
-
So i have a question for those who have seen Jordan play...
Can he shoot? Im not asking if he's reggie miller, but can he hit an open jumper if given time and space? Shoot 70% from the.foul line?
I think this needs to be.asked of any recruit were looking at.
Certainly agree Desco. For eons SJU has recruited "slashers" in the face of the three point era. OK, Harrison can shoot, but who else? Approach reminds me of Jets going "Ground & Pound" when rest of NFL put attention on passing games. Time to recruit in a systematic, needs driven approach. This crap about getting best athletes is destined for failure. Are we trying to revive SJU Hoops or develop a Decathlon team?
-
I don't get this speculation that Harrison, Sampson and even Obekpa might bolt. None are close to ready IMO. And there is plenty to be gained for all by developing at the collegiate level.
I don't think you have to worry, Nba teams aren't going to be fighting one another to get their hands on any of our players.
I think our entire rotation returns for next year.
Maybe Jones transfers.
Otherwise this.whole team is.coming back.
Your smart.
You do realize NBA teams don't have to want our guys for them to leave right?
Of course Moose. But i don't think our players are entirely brain dead. There's.got to be some whispers of Nba interest for jakarr or Chris to come.out. and i don't see there being any buzz for either of them this year.
Its not even like they'll get mixed responses if they put feelers out. It'll be a resounding "no thanks".
On the other hand if dangelo wants to knowingly head to Europe.and.pull a Dominican Cheek.. hey, its his life. Do what you gotta do. But he likes the spot light, and he must see he has the opportunity to pickup a lot of awards and accolaydes by returning.
It's rare for Freshman to declare unless they get confirmation they will be a FIRST round pick, because the contracts are guaranteed. We really have nothing to worry about.
And why all this D'lo to Europe speculation?
-
I don't get this speculation that Harrison, Sampson and even Obekpa might bolt. None are close to ready IMO. And there is plenty to be gained for all by developing at the collegiate level.
I don't think you have to worry, Nba teams aren't going to be fighting one another to get their hands on any of our players.
I think our entire rotation returns for next year.
Maybe Jones transfers.
Otherwise this.whole team is.coming back.
Your smart.
You do realize NBA teams don't have to want our guys for them to leave right?
Of course Moose. But i don't think our players are entirely brain dead. There's.got to be some whispers of Nba interest for jakarr or Chris to come.out. and i don't see there being any buzz for either of them this year.
Its not even like they'll get mixed responses if they put feelers out. It'll be a resounding "no thanks".
On the other hand if dangelo wants to knowingly head to Europe.and.pull a Dominican Cheek.. hey, its his life. Do what you gotta do. But he likes the spot light, and he must see he has the opportunity to pickup a lot of awards and accolaydes by returning.
It's rare for Freshman to declare unless they get confirmation they will be a FIRST round pick, because the contracts are guaranteed. We really have nothing to worry about.
And why all this D'lo to Europe speculation?
Because he can go to Europe and make more than he can as most 4 yrs college graduates. D-League pays 50k tops. Maybe he's sick and tired of playing the lead role in the one man show.
-
I don't get this speculation that Harrison, Sampson and even Obekpa might bolt. None are close to ready IMO. And there is plenty to be gained for all by developing at the collegiate level.
I don't think you have to worry, Nba teams aren't going to be fighting one another to get their hands on any of our players.
I think our entire rotation returns for next year.
Maybe Jones transfers.
Otherwise this.whole team is.coming back.
Your smart.
You do realize NBA teams don't have to want our guys for them to leave right?
Of course Moose. But i don't think our players are entirely brain dead. There's.got to be some whispers of Nba interest for jakarr or Chris to come.out. and i don't see there being any buzz for either of them this year.
Its not even like they'll get mixed responses if they put feelers out. It'll be a resounding "no thanks".
On the other hand if dangelo wants to knowingly head to Europe.and.pull a Dominican Cheek.. hey, its his life. Do what you gotta do. But he likes the spot light, and he must see he has the opportunity to pickup a lot of awards and accolaydes by returning.
It's rare for Freshman to declare unless they get confirmation they will be a FIRST round pick, because the contracts are guaranteed. We really have nothing to worry about.
And why all this D'lo to Europe speculation?
Because he can go to Europe and make more than he can as most 4 yrs college graduates. D-League pays 50k tops. Maybe he's sick and tired of playing the lead role in the one man show.
But is it common for players to do that after their Sophomore year? I've heard of seniors who don't get drafted doing that, but not sophomores.
-
I don't get this speculation that Harrison, Sampson and even Obekpa might bolt. None are close to ready IMO. And there is plenty to be gained for all by developing at the collegiate level.
I don't think you have to worry, Nba teams aren't going to be fighting one another to get their hands on any of our players.
I think our entire rotation returns for next year.
Maybe Jones transfers.
Otherwise this.whole team is.coming back.
Your smart.
You do realize NBA teams don't have to want our guys for them to leave right?
Of course Moose. But i don't think our players are entirely brain dead. There's.got to be some whispers of Nba interest for jakarr or Chris to come.out. and i don't see there being any buzz for either of them this year.
Its not even like they'll get mixed responses if they put feelers out. It'll be a resounding "no thanks".
On the other hand if dangelo wants to knowingly head to Europe.and.pull a Dominican Cheek.. hey, its his life. Do what you gotta do. But he likes the spot light, and he must see he has the opportunity to pickup a lot of awards and accolaydes by returning.
It's rare for Freshman to declare unless they get confirmation they will be a FIRST round pick, because the contracts are guaranteed. We really have nothing to worry about.
And why all this D'lo to Europe speculation?
Because he can go to Europe and make more than he can as most 4 yrs college graduates. D-League pays 50k tops. Maybe he's sick and tired of playing the lead role in the one man show.
But is it common for players to do that after their Sophomore year? I've heard of seniors who don't get drafted doing that, but not sophomores.
I wouldn't say its common. But everyone has different ideas and life they live. Who knows. Everyone rants and raves about his temper. You have to think its eating at him. I believe the thought originated by him telling a poster he didn't plan to be in college 4 yrs or something paraphrased.
-
I don't get this speculation that Harrison, Sampson and even Obekpa might bolt. None are close to ready IMO. And there is plenty to be gained for all by developing at the collegiate level.
I don't think you have to worry, Nba teams aren't going to be fighting one another to get their hands on any of our players.
I think our entire rotation returns for next year.
Maybe Jones transfers.
Otherwise this.whole team is.coming back.
Your smart.
You do realize NBA teams don't have to want our guys for them to leave right?
Of course Moose. But i don't think our players are entirely brain dead. There's.got to be some whispers of Nba interest for jakarr or Chris to come.out. and i don't see there being any buzz for either of them this year.
Its not even like they'll get mixed responses if they put feelers out. It'll be a resounding "no thanks".
On the other hand if dangelo wants to knowingly head to Europe.and.pull a Dominican Cheek.. hey, its his life. Do what you gotta do. But he likes the spot light, and he must see he has the opportunity to pickup a lot of awards and accolaydes by returning.
It's rare for Freshman to declare unless they get confirmation they will be a FIRST round pick, because the contracts are guaranteed. We really have nothing to worry about.
And why all this D'lo to Europe speculation?
Because he can go to Europe and make more than he can as most 4 yrs college graduates. D-League pays 50k tops. Maybe he's sick and tired of playing the lead role in the one man show.
But is it common for players to do that after their Sophomore year? I've heard of seniors who don't get drafted doing that, but not sophomores.
Syl landesberg
-
I don't get this speculation that Harrison, Sampson and even Obekpa might bolt. None are close to ready IMO. And there is plenty to be gained for all by developing at the collegiate level.
I don't think you have to worry, Nba teams aren't going to be fighting one another to get their hands on any of our players.
I think our entire rotation returns for next year.
Maybe Jones transfers.
Otherwise this.whole team is.coming back.
Your smart.
You do realize NBA teams don't have to want our guys for them to leave right?
Of course Moose. But i don't think our players are entirely brain dead. There's.got to be some whispers of Nba interest for jakarr or Chris to come.out. and i don't see there being any buzz for either of them this year.
Its not even like they'll get mixed responses if they put feelers out. It'll be a resounding "no thanks".
On the other hand if dangelo wants to knowingly head to Europe.and.pull a Dominican Cheek.. hey, its his life. Do what you gotta do. But he likes the spot light, and he must see he has the opportunity to pickup a lot of awards and accolaydes by returning.
It's rare for Freshman to declare unless they get confirmation they will be a FIRST round pick, because the contracts are guaranteed. We really have nothing to worry about.
And why all this D'lo to Europe speculation?
Because he can go to Europe and make more than he can as most 4 yrs college graduates. D-League pays 50k tops. Maybe he's sick and tired of playing the lead role in the one man show.
But is it common for players to do that after their Sophomore year? I've heard of seniors who don't get drafted doing that, but not sophomores.
Syl landesberg
Yeah but didn't he have grade issues?
-
I don't get this speculation that Harrison, Sampson and even Obekpa might bolt. None are close to ready IMO. And there is plenty to be gained for all by developing at the collegiate level.
I don't think you have to worry, Nba teams aren't going to be fighting one another to get their hands on any of our players.
I think our entire rotation returns for next year.
Maybe Jones transfers.
Otherwise this.whole team is.coming back.
Your smart.
You do realize NBA teams don't have to want our guys for them to leave right?
Of course Moose. But i don't think our players are entirely brain dead. There's.got to be some whispers of Nba interest for jakarr or Chris to come.out. and i don't see there being any buzz for either of them this year.
Its not even like they'll get mixed responses if they put feelers out. It'll be a resounding "no thanks".
On the other hand if dangelo wants to knowingly head to Europe.and.pull a Dominican Cheek.. hey, its his life. Do what you gotta do. But he likes the spot light, and he must see he has the opportunity to pickup a lot of awards and accolaydes by returning.
It's rare for Freshman to declare unless they get confirmation they will be a FIRST round pick, because the contracts are guaranteed. We really have nothing to worry about.
And why all this D'lo to Europe speculation?
Because he can go to Europe and make more than he can as most 4 yrs college graduates. D-League pays 50k tops. Maybe he's sick and tired of playing the lead role in the one man show.
But is it common for players to do that after their Sophomore year? I've heard of seniors who don't get drafted doing that, but not sophomores.
Syl landesberg
Yeah but didn't he have grade issues?
Yes, he got suspended late in his sophomore season because of grades. Its also possible he and the new coach werent on the same page. He never would have left after his sophomore year had Leitao not been fired
-
I don't get this speculation that Harrison, Sampson and even Obekpa might bolt. None are close to ready IMO. And there is plenty to be gained for all by developing at the collegiate level.
I don't think you have to worry, Nba teams aren't going to be fighting one another to get their hands on any of our players.
I think our entire rotation returns for next year.
Maybe Jones transfers.
Otherwise this.whole team is.coming back.
Your smart.
You do realize NBA teams don't have to want our guys for them to leave right?
Of course Moose. But i don't think our players are entirely brain dead. There's.got to be some whispers of Nba interest for jakarr or Chris to come.out. and i don't see there being any buzz for either of them this year.
Its not even like they'll get mixed responses if they put feelers out. It'll be a resounding "no thanks".
On the other hand if dangelo wants to knowingly head to Europe.and.pull a Dominican Cheek.. hey, its his life. Do what you gotta do. But he likes the spot light, and he must see he has the opportunity to pickup a lot of awards and accolaydes by returning.
It's rare for Freshman to declare unless they get confirmation they will be a FIRST round pick, because the contracts are guaranteed. We really have nothing to worry about.
And why all this D'lo to Europe speculation?
Dangelo has told students on campus he's only here for 2 years. Posters who have class with him have said as much.
That's where that comes from. I don't necessarily believe it. That may have been his plan, but I'm with you - I'd be surprised if he's not back.
Also, as I mentioned Dominic Cheek of Nova did it last year. Said he wanted to start making money for his grandma, and just sent pro after sophomore year.
-
So i have a question for those who have seen Jordan play...
Can he shoot? Im not asking if he's reggie miller, but can he hit an open jumper if given time and space? Shoot 70% from the.foul line?
I think this needs to be.asked of any recruit were looking at.
Certainly agree Desco. For eons SJU has recruited "slashers" in the face of the three point era. OK, Harrison can shoot, but who else? Approach reminds me of Jets going "Ground & Pound" when rest of NFL put attention on passing games. Time to recruit in a systematic, needs driven approach. This crap about getting best athletes is destined for failure. Are we trying to revive SJU Hoops or develop a Decathlon team?
Absolutely Paultz!
And it's not as if they're diametric goals, I know this might be hard for us to imagine.... But it is possible to recruit guys who are athletic and can shoot a little.
I mean its not like StArks or Porter are Eddy Curry. They're fairly athletic.
-
I don't get this speculation that Harrison, Sampson and even Obekpa might bolt. None are close to ready IMO. And there is plenty to be gained for all by developing at the collegiate level.
I don't think you have to worry, Nba teams aren't going to be fighting one another to get their hands on any of our players.
I think our entire rotation returns for next year.
Maybe Jones transfers.
Otherwise this.whole team is.coming back.
Your smart.
You do realize NBA teams don't have to want our guys for them to leave right?
Of course Moose. But i don't think our players are entirely brain dead. There's.got to be some whispers of Nba interest for jakarr or Chris to come.out. and i don't see there being any buzz for either of them this year.
Its not even like they'll get mixed responses if they put feelers out. It'll be a resounding "no thanks".
On the other hand if dangelo wants to knowingly head to Europe.and.pull a Dominican Cheek.. hey, its his life. Do what you gotta do. But he likes the spot light, and he must see he has the opportunity to pickup a lot of awards and accolaydes by returning.
It's rare for Freshman to declare unless they get confirmation they will be a FIRST round pick, because the contracts are guaranteed. We really have nothing to worry about.
And why all this D'lo to Europe speculation?
Dangelo has told students on campus he's only here for 2 years. Posters who have class with him have said as much.
That's where that comes from. I don't necessarily believe it. That may have been his plan, but I'm with you - I'd be surprised if he's not back.
Also, as I mentioned Dominic Cheek of Nova did it last year. Said he wanted to start making money for his grandma, and just sent pro after sophomore year.
How did that work out? Last press release I see was him being waived by the might Fort Wayne mad ants. He tried out in italy and didn't get an offer.
-
Jordan will be 6'6" by the time he joins Temple;
“@sheedjordan: Not getting a hair cut til next year”
-
Jordan will be 6'6" by the time he joins Temple;
“@sheedjordan: Not getting a hair cut til next year”
*St Johns*
-
I don't get this speculation that Harrison, Sampson and even Obekpa might bolt. None are close to ready IMO. And there is plenty to be gained for all by developing at the collegiate level.
I don't think you have to worry, Nba teams aren't going to be fighting one another to get their hands on any of our players.
I think our entire rotation returns for next year.
Maybe Jones transfers.
Otherwise this.whole team is.coming back.
Your smart.
You do realize NBA teams don't have to want our guys for them to leave right?
Of course Moose. But i don't think our players are entirely brain dead. There's.got to be some whispers of Nba interest for jakarr or Chris to come.out. and i don't see there being any buzz for either of them this year.
Its not even like they'll get mixed responses if they put feelers out. It'll be a resounding "no thanks".
On the other hand if dangelo wants to knowingly head to Europe.and.pull a Dominican Cheek.. hey, its his life. Do what you gotta do. But he likes the spot light, and he must see he has the opportunity to pickup a lot of awards and accolaydes by returning.
It's rare for Freshman to declare unless they get confirmation they will be a FIRST round pick, because the contracts are guaranteed. We really have nothing to worry about.
And why all this D'lo to Europe speculation?
Ever hear of Omar Cook?
-
I don't get this speculation that Harrison, Sampson and even Obekpa might bolt. None are close to ready IMO. And there is plenty to be gained for all by developing at the collegiate level.
I don't think you have to worry, Nba teams aren't going to be fighting one another to get their hands on any of our players.
I think our entire rotation returns for next year.
Maybe Jones transfers.
Otherwise this.whole team is.coming back.
Your smart.
You do realize NBA teams don't have to want our guys for them to leave right?
Of course Moose. But i don't think our players are entirely brain dead. There's.got to be some whispers of Nba interest for jakarr or Chris to come.out. and i don't see there being any buzz for either of them this year.
Its not even like they'll get mixed responses if they put feelers out. It'll be a resounding "no thanks".
On the other hand if dangelo wants to knowingly head to Europe.and.pull a Dominican Cheek.. hey, its his life. Do what you gotta do. But he likes the spot light, and he must see he has the opportunity to pickup a lot of awards and accolaydes by returning.
It's rare for Freshman to declare unless they get confirmation they will be a FIRST round pick, because the contracts are guaranteed. We really have nothing to worry about.
And why all this D'lo to Europe speculation?
Ever hear of Omar Cook?
Rare things happen from time to time.
-
I don't get this speculation that Harrison, Sampson and even Obekpa might bolt. None are close to ready IMO. And there is plenty to be gained for all by developing at the collegiate level.
I don't think you have to worry, Nba teams aren't going to be fighting one another to get their hands on any of our players.
I think our entire rotation returns for next year.
Maybe Jones transfers.
Otherwise this.whole team is.coming back.
Your smart.
You do realize NBA teams don't have to want our guys for them to leave right?
Of course Moose. But i don't think our players are entirely brain dead. There's.got to be some whispers of Nba interest for jakarr or Chris to come.out. and i don't see there being any buzz for either of them this year.
Its not even like they'll get mixed responses if they put feelers out. It'll be a resounding "no thanks".
On the other hand if dangelo wants to knowingly head to Europe.and.pull a Dominican Cheek.. hey, its his life. Do what you gotta do. But he likes the spot light, and he must see he has the opportunity to pickup a lot of awards and accolaydes by returning.
It's rare for Freshman to declare unless they get confirmation they will be a FIRST round pick, because the contracts are guaranteed. We really have nothing to worry about.
And why all this D'lo to Europe speculation?
Ever hear of Omar Cook?
Cook got info he was going in first round and missed by 3 spots. Said he was leaving because we weren't going to be any good. Hatten took us to the tourny the next year as a 8 seed. Always wondered how that back court woulda worked out. Speedy stayed with Jay 4 years and made some big money and got a couple of rings with SA.
-
I don't get this speculation that Harrison, Sampson and even Obekpa might bolt. None are close to ready IMO. And there is plenty to be gained for all by developing at the collegiate level.
I don't think you have to worry, Nba teams aren't going to be fighting one another to get their hands on any of our players.
I think our entire rotation returns for next year.
Maybe Jones transfers.
Otherwise this.whole team is.coming back.
Your smart.
You do realize NBA teams don't have to want our guys for them to leave right?
Of course Moose. But i don't think our players are entirely brain dead. There's.got to be some whispers of Nba interest for jakarr or Chris to come.out. and i don't see there being any buzz for either of them this year.
Its not even like they'll get mixed responses if they put feelers out. It'll be a resounding "no thanks".
On the other hand if dangelo wants to knowingly head to Europe.and.pull a Dominican Cheek.. hey, its his life. Do what you gotta do. But he likes the spot light, and he must see he has the opportunity to pickup a lot of awards and accolaydes by returning.
It's rare for Freshman to declare unless they get confirmation they will be a FIRST round pick, because the contracts are guaranteed. We really have nothing to worry about.
And why all this D'lo to Europe speculation?
Ever hear of Omar Cook?
Cook got info he was going in first round and missed by 3 spots. Said he was leaving because we weren't going to be any good. Hatten took us to the tourny the next year as a 8 seed. Always wondered how that back court woulda worked out. Speedy stayed with Jay 4 years and made some big money and got a couple of rings with SA.
Omar and Jarvis were oil and vinegar
-
“@MVender: Vaux point guard Rysheed Jordan (@sheedjordan) is a McDonalds All-American nominee. He's down to Temple, UCLA and St. John's.”
-
Isn't everyone a nominee?
-
Isn't everyone a nominee?
Just about.
-
Isn't everyone a nominee?
I know i was and I didn't even play in high school but I was a terror on my friends driveway hoop especially on very windy days where I had the best knack for adjusting to the conditions. Anyone think that if we get verbal from JL it helps us with RJ?
-
Isn't everyone a nominee?
I know i was and I didn't even play in high school but I was a terror on my friends driveway hoop especially on very windy days where I had the best knack for adjusting to the conditions. Anyone think that if we get verbal from JL it helps us with RJ?
Don't think either will help or hurt the other.
-
Isn't everyone a nominee?
Just about.
Here's the link to the list of nominees. I think there are 600 nominees on the initial list. They're grouped by home state. Anyone want to fathom a guess as to how IOWA has the most nominees of any state with 35? Or how one school (Findlay Prep in Nevada) has more nominees than the entire state of New York????? http://www.mcdepk.com/2013allamericangames/media/2013_Nominee_List_(Boys_Girls).pdf (http://www.mcdepk.com/2013allamericangames/media/2013_Nominee_List_(Boys_Girls).pdf)
-
Isn't everyone a nominee?
Just about.
Here's the link to the list of nominees. I think there are 600 nominees on the initial list. They're grouped by home state. Anyone want to fathom a guess as to how IOWA has the most nominees of any state with 35? Or how one school (Findlay Prep in Nevada) has more nominees than the entire state of New York????? http://www.mcdepk.com/2013allamericangames/media/2013_Nominee_List_(Boys_Girls).pdf (http://www.mcdepk.com/2013allamericangames/media/2013_Nominee_List_(Boys_Girls).pdf)
I remember Paris Horne being an AA nominee...
-
It all depends on how in tune your coaches are with the process to go thru the motions of nominating someone. Also there are some academic requirements I think. (Could be wrong on the 2nd part)
-
Remember the number in the past being 1700. Seriously.
-
It all depends on how in tune your coaches are with the process to go thru the motions of nominating someone. Also there are some academic requirements I think. (Could be wrong on the 2nd part)
No post-grad players are eligible.
-
It all depends on how in tune your coaches are with the process to go thru the motions of nominating someone. Also there are some academic requirements I think. (Could be wrong on the 2nd part)
No post-grad players are eligible.
And no late "re-classifiers". Why Noel wasn't a McD. He reclassified after this initial nomination process last year.
-
Isn't everyone a nominee?
I know i was and I didn't even play in high school but I was a terror on my friends driveway hoop especially on very windy days where I had the best knack for adjusting to the conditions. Anyone think that if we get verbal from JL it helps us with RJ?
Don't think either will help or hurt the other.
But now there's a real possibility we may be out of scholarships, no?
I mean Id like to assume coach would find room for Jordan too, if he wanted to come here, but the numbers get very tight if Lawrence is indeed a done deal.
-
Isn't everyone a nominee?
I know i was and I didn't even play in high school but I was a terror on my friends driveway hoop especially on very windy days where I had the best knack for adjusting to the conditions. Anyone think that if we get verbal from JL it helps us with RJ?
Don't think either will help or hurt the other.
But now there's a real possibility we may be out of scholarships, no?
I mean Id like to assume coach would find room for Jordan too, if he wanted to come here, but the numbers get very tight if Lawrence is indeed a done deal.
Pitino never worries about that, so I think staff will figure something out. Way of the world today.
-
Isn't everyone a nominee?
I know i was and I didn't even play in high school but I was a terror on my friends driveway hoop especially on very windy days where I had the best knack for adjusting to the conditions. Anyone think that if we get verbal from JL it helps us with RJ?
Don't think either will help or hurt the other.
But now there's a real possibility we may be out of scholarships, no?
I mean Id like to assume coach would find room for Jordan too, if he wanted to come here, but the numbers get very tight if Lawrence is indeed a done deal.
I expect there will be a min of 2 ships available
-
Isn't everyone a nominee?
I know i was and I didn't even play in high school but I was a terror on my friends driveway hoop especially on very windy days where I had the best knack for adjusting to the conditions. Anyone think that if we get verbal from JL it helps us with RJ?
Don't think either will help or hurt the other.
But now there's a real possibility we may be out of scholarships, no?
I mean Id like to assume coach would find room for Jordan too, if he wanted to come here, but the numbers get very tight if Lawrence is indeed a done deal.
I expect there will be a min of 2 ships available
If Lavin needed to, I guess he could un-redshirt GG this year to free up his ship. Not the best result for Gift, however.
-
Isn't everyone a nominee?
I know i was and I didn't even play in high school but I was a terror on my friends driveway hoop especially on very windy days where I had the best knack for adjusting to the conditions. Anyone think that if we get verbal from JL it helps us with RJ?
Don't think either will help or hurt the other.
But now there's a real possibility we may be out of scholarships, no?
I mean Id like to assume coach would find room for Jordan too, if he wanted to come here, but the numbers get very tight if Lawrence is indeed a done deal.
I expect there will be a min of 2 ships available
Yea? Can you elaborate Ted or is it something that is best left unsaid?
The way I see it either somebody transfers or someone leaves for the pros. I really don't see the latter happening.
But assuming Orlando isn't here, that's at least 1.
And it's true Paultz, Pitino sheds players or moves them around like inventory.
-
Isn't everyone a nominee?
I know i was and I didn't even play in high school but I was a terror on my friends driveway hoop especially on very windy days where I had the best knack for adjusting to the conditions. Anyone think that if we get verbal from JL it helps us with RJ?
Don't think either will help or hurt the other.
But now there's a real possibility we may be out of scholarships, no?
I mean Id like to assume coach would find room for Jordan too, if he wanted to come here, but the numbers get very tight if Lawrence is indeed a done deal.
I expect there will be a min of 2 ships available
Yea? Can you elaborate Ted or is it something that is best left unsaid?
The way I see it either somebody transfers or someone leaves for the pros. I really don't see the latter happening.
But assuming Orlando isn't here, that's at least 1.
And it's true Paultz, Pitino sheds players or moves them around like inventory.
Ask Angel Nunez :-\
-
Care to elaborate, Ted? Can PM me if you don't want to share publicly.
-
Care to elaborate, Ted? Can PM me if you don't want to share publicly.
Pretty sure its nothing specific. Just law of averages.
-
Isn't everyone a nominee?
Apparently even folks not eligible to play.
“@TDNike: McDonald's game committee makes whopper of mistake http://t.co/H4GPZzTu (http://t.co/H4GPZzTu)”
-
Isn't everyone a nominee?
Apparently even folks not eligible to play.
“@TDNike: McDonald's game committee makes whopper of mistake http://t.co/H4GPZzTu (http://t.co/H4GPZzTu)”
Jordy is back in NY.
Oh boy.
-
Isn't everyone a nominee?
Apparently even folks not eligible to play.
“@TDNike: McDonald's game committee makes whopper of mistake http://t.co/H4GPZzTu (http://t.co/H4GPZzTu)”
Jordy is back in NY.
Oh boy.
Jordan's birthday is August 1993, you do the math
-
Nothing specific or any inside info but I really don't expect all 10 guys suiting up this year to be back. Perhaps 1-2 decide that STJ is not the best place for them
-
Isn't everyone a nominee?
Apparently even folks not eligible to play.
“@TDNike: McDonald's game committee makes whopper of mistake http://t.co/H4GPZzTu (http://t.co/H4GPZzTu)”
Jordy is back in NY.
Oh boy.
Jordan's birthday is August 1993, you do the math
Where is he gonna end up next year?
-
http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/high_school/pennsylvania/20130119_Vauxs_Jordan_tight-lipped_about_future.html (http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/high_school/pennsylvania/20130119_Vauxs_Jordan_tight-lipped_about_future.html)
The 18-year-old, who has seven brothers and sisters, said Temple "is like home to me. The campus is nice, and their guards get out and go. That's something I like."
Before the season, Jordan spent a weekend at UCLA. He says he enjoyed Tinseltown, where he ran into ex-Sixer Andre Iguodala.
"It was a beautiful campus," he said. "We drove by Beverly Hills, which was really something. I think I would like it there."
And how about St. John's, located in Queens and not too far from the bright lights of Manhattan?
"Playing at Madison Square Garden for home games would be pretty special," he said.
-
http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/high_school/pennsylvania/20130119_Vauxs_Jordan_tight-lipped_about_future.html (http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/high_school/pennsylvania/20130119_Vauxs_Jordan_tight-lipped_about_future.html)
The 18-year-old, who has seven brothers and sisters, said Temple "is like home to me. The campus is nice, and their guards get out and go. That's something I like."
Before the season, Jordan spent a weekend at UCLA. He says he enjoyed Tinseltown, where he ran into ex-Sixer Andre Iguodala.
"It was a beautiful campus," he said. "We drove by Beverly Hills, which was really something. I think I would like it there."
And how about St. John's, located in Queens and not too far from the bright lights of Manhattan?
"Playing at Madison Square Garden for home games would be pretty special," he said.
I hope Jamal doesn't scare him off.
-
http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/high_school/pennsylvania/20130119_Vauxs_Jordan_tight-lipped_about_future.html (http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/high_school/pennsylvania/20130119_Vauxs_Jordan_tight-lipped_about_future.html)
The 18-year-old, who has seven brothers and sisters, said Temple "is like home to me. The campus is nice, and their guards get out and go. That's something I like."
Before the season, Jordan spent a weekend at UCLA. He says he enjoyed Tinseltown, where he ran into ex-Sixer Andre Iguodala.
"It was a beautiful campus," he said. "We drove by Beverly Hills, which was really something. I think I would like it there."
And how about St. John's, located in Queens and not too far from the bright lights of Manhattan?
"Playing at Madison Square Garden for home games would be pretty special," he said.
I hope Jamal doesn't scare him off.
Branch will be a junior. Rysheed would get minutes any way you cut it. Kid is good.
-
The way we want to play with a deep rotation allows Lavin to play everyone. Lavin never had a problem with too many guys at UCLA. If Jordan is the real deal, he will take Greene's place in a 3 guard offense. No offense ti Greene but good programs make kids fight for minutes.
-
The way we want to play with a deep rotation allows Lavin to play everyone. Lavin never had a problem with too many guys at UCLA. If Jordan is the real deal, he will take Greene's place in a 3 guard offense. No offense ti Greene but good programs make kids fight for minutes.
Totally agree. Plus IF D'Lo is still here, I can't see him sticking it out for 4 years. I hope he does, but gut tells me he will make an attempt to play somewhere for money before his 4 Yeats up here. Would love to land Rysheed.
-
Good point -- pressing, playing up tempo allows you to get guys minutes. When teams win, guys are usually happy even if they don't get sufficient burn.
Jordan's comment about MSG reinforces why it is so important for us to play there. Every recruit seems to mention it. I was at MSG for Rutgers where the crowd was weak, and have been at other games in the past of course when that was the case, but if we win and schedule properly (i.e., putting the right teams in the Garden), that won't be a problem.
-
Good point -- pressing, playing up tempo allows you to get guys minutes. When teams win, guys are usually happy even if they don't get sufficient burn.
Jordan's comment about MSG reinforces why it is so important for us to play there. Every recruit seems to mention it. I was at MSG for Rutgers where the crowd was weak, and have been at other games in the past of course when that was the case, but if we win and schedule properly (i.e., putting the right teams in the Garden), that won't be a problem.
SJU vs Georgetown was pretty strong crowd with almost 12k I think. As rivalries get more intense, I hope it grows.
-
G-town on a weekend is the type of game we should play in the Garden though, MCNPA. Big name that will draw more of the casual or lukewarm fans who only show up when we are good, or who want to just go for the event. Plus we'll get a G-town crowd there. Rutgers on a Wed night is a tough draw even when we are good, because they will bring about 50 fans and it won't generate much juice. Get the G-town's and Nova's in the Garden, Butler when we add them to the conference, a few of the big out of conference games we schedule (would love Duke, UCLA, Notre Dame), etc.
-
I think if Bourgault doesn't get much play this year he may transfer, especially with Hooper coming in. The only thing is he'll be a senior transfer. And I think Orlando isnt gonna be around next year so we'll have 2 ships available. My gut says we land Lawerence and miss out on Jordan but I hope im wrong on Jordan.
-
I think if Bourgault doesn't get much play this year he may transfer, especially with Hooper coming in. The only thing is he'll be a senior transfer. And I think Orlando isnt gonna be around next year so we'll have 2 ships available. My gut says we land Lawerence and miss out on Jordan but I hope im wrong on Jordan.
Tough for him to transfer.
Europe might be better option
-
I think if Bourgault doesn't get much play this year he may transfer, especially with Hooper coming in. The only thing is he'll be a senior transfer. And I think Orlando isnt gonna be around next year so we'll have 2 ships available. My gut says we land Lawerence and miss out on Jordan but I hope im wrong on Jordan.
Tough for him to transfer.
Europe might be better option
Or maybe he sucks it up, works on his game, and earns some minutes? Just a thought. This notion that if things don't go your way in your first year that you bolt is pathetic.
-
I think if Bourgault doesn't get much play this year he may transfer, especially with Hooper coming in. The only thing is he'll be a senior transfer. And I think Orlando isnt gonna be around next year so we'll have 2 ships available. My gut says we land Lawerence and miss out on Jordan but I hope im wrong on Jordan.
Tough for him to transfer.
Europe might be better option
Or maybe he sucks it up, works on his game, and earns some minutes? Just a thought. This notion that if things don't go your way in your first year that you bolt is pathetic.
Ok
-
Felix is getting less and less playing time. If the trend continues, I wouldn't be surprised to see him go elsewhere (nor would I be disappointed).
-
Everyone is going to transfer.
Now lets try to keep the Jordan thread on Jordan and not venture too far off.
-
You see Felix on the bench last game? He was going nuts. He isn't going anywhere. If anything, I could see him as a redshirt candidate depending on who we bring in.
-
You see Felix on the bench last game? He was going nuts. He isn't going anywhere. If anything, I could see him as a redshirt candidate depending on who we bring in.
Redshirting does not give us an extra Scholly for 2013- just gives the player an extra year.
Felix is averaging 10 min/g as a freshman.
He was not ranked top 100. I doubt he was expecting more min as a frosh.
-
I think if Bourgault doesn't get much play this year he may transfer, especially with Hooper coming in. The only thing is he'll be a senior transfer. And I think Orlando isnt gonna be around next year so we'll have 2 ships available. My gut says we land Lawerence and miss out on Jordan but I hope im wrong on Jordan.
I don't like to think about a player leaving before graduating, but this does make sense re Bourgault.
-
You see Felix on the bench last game? He was going nuts. He isn't going anywhere. If anything, I could see him as a redshirt candidate depending on who we bring in.
Redshirting does not give us an extra Scholly for 2013- just gives the player an extra year.
Felix is averaging 10 min/g as a freshman.
He was not ranked top 100. I doubt he was expecting more min as a frosh.
+1
-
I think if Bourgault doesn't get much play this year he may transfer, especially with Hooper coming in. The only thing is he'll be a senior transfer. And I think Orlando isnt gonna be around next year so we'll have 2 ships available. My gut says we land Lawerence and miss out on Jordan but I hope im wrong on Jordan.
Tough for him to transfer.
Europe might be better option
Biggest issue for Marco is Max being able to play next year and Max is better.
Yes back to the Jordan discussion.......
-
I think if Bourgault doesn't get much play this year he may transfer, especially with Hooper coming in. The only thing is he'll be a senior transfer. And I think Orlando isnt gonna be around next year so we'll have 2 ships available. My gut says we land Lawerence and miss out on Jordan but I hope im wrong on Jordan.
Tough for him to transfer.
Europe might be better option
Biggest issue for Marco is Max being able to play next year and Max is better.
Yes back to the Jordan discussion.......
Don't know if Max is better? What makes him better they both shoot the lights out yet defensively, ability to handle the ball, rebounding wise I'd have to give the edge to Marco, and there the same height. So what makes Mac better? If anything I think it would be a downgrade due to max being even more one dimensional...... And rysheed Jordan is the instant impact we need!! 8)
-
I think if Bourgault doesn't get much play this year he may transfer, especially with Hooper coming in. The only thing is he'll be a senior transfer. And I think Orlando isnt gonna be around next year so we'll have 2 ships available. My gut says we land Lawerence and miss out on Jordan but I hope im wrong on Jordan.
Tough for him to transfer.
Europe might be better option
Biggest issue for Marco is Max being able to play next year and Max is better.
Yes back to the Jordan discussion.......
Don't know if Max is better? What makes him better they both shoot the lights out yet defensively, ability to handle the ball, rebounding wise I'd have to give the edge to Marco, and there the same height. So what makes Mac better? If anything I think it would be a downgrade due to max being even more one dimensional...... And rysheed Jordan is the instant impact we need!! 8)
If people think marcos feet are slow wait until they see hoopers
-
I have seen Hooper play, he is a better shooter and I think he is taller despite the heights listed on official roster. Max is a smarter ballplayer and works really hard. Trust me (if both are here together) lavin will play the Redshirt Soph over the Senior.
-
I have seen Hooper play, he is a better shooter and I think he is taller despite the heights listed on official roster. Max is a smarter ballplayer and works really hard. Trust me (if both are here together) lavin will play the Redshirt Soph over the Senior.
Agreed
-
I think if Bourgault doesn't get much play this year he may transfer, especially with Hooper coming in. The only thing is he'll be a senior transfer. And I think Orlando isnt gonna be around next year so we'll have 2 ships available. My gut says we land Lawerence and miss out on Jordan but I hope im wrong on Jordan.
Tough for him to transfer.
Europe might be better option
Biggest issue for Marco is Max being able to play next year and Max is better.
Yes back to the Jordan discussion.......
Don't know if Max is better? What makes him better they both shoot the lights out yet defensively, ability to handle the ball, rebounding wise I'd have to give the edge to Marco, and there the same height. So what makes Mac better? If anything I think it would be a downgrade due to max being even more one dimensional...... And rysheed Jordan is the instant impact we need!! 8)
Everybody loves the backup QB. ;)
-
“@CapitolHoops: Vaux,s Rysheed Jordan with the Capitol Hoops Play of the day and-1 game winner with 2 seconds left in MLK Hoopfest http://t.co/QCvcwvte (http://t.co/QCvcwvte)”
-
“@PhilahoopsHigh: @sheedjordan Great game today. Thanks for talking to #philahoopshigh Check it out here: http://t.co/I4wruIJh (http://t.co/I4wruIJh)”
-
i like how he mentioned St Johns 1st in his choices!!! One can only hope for a Jordan/Lawrence class!!
-
Not really discussed is the relationship there may (or may not) be between Jordan and Lawrence. Presumably, if Lawrence commits, it might give Jordan a nudge.
-
Not really discussed is the relationship there may (or may not) be between Jordan and Lawrence. Presumably, if Lawrence commits, it might give Jordan a nudge.
Not really IMO.
-
i like how he mentioned St Johns 1st in his choices!!! One can only hope for a Jordan/Lawrence class!!
i remember when JaKarr was interviewed during his recruitment and he didn't mention us or had to think hard about us... lol.
-
Played "Crime Stopper Carr" squad;
“@jmverlin: Vaux beats Princeton Day, 70-66. Sammy Foreman has 30, Rysheed Jordan 19”
BTW, has staff been going to his games? understand could not today, but over recent weeks?
-
Played "Crime Stopper Carr" squad;
“@jmverlin: Vaux beats Princeton Day, 70-66. Sammy Foreman has 30, Rysheed Jordan 19”
BTW, has staff been going to his games? understand could not today, but over recent weeks?
Chiles a few weeks ago I recall
-
Would be great to get him to come to a game at the Garden
-
Looks like he was suspended for last game.
“@jmverlin: Weird senior day for Vaux, who was without their best play in Rysheed Jordan for some unclear reasons: http://t.co/9GVdwuvb (http://t.co/9GVdwuvb)”
-
Obviously would love to get Jordan, but I'm not feeling it (hope to be wrong). If Jordan is out, are there any decent and available 2014 pg prospects that we have a shot at? Jackson-Cartwright appears to be out for us, at least based on the last several posts on his thread. Looking ahead, Branch likely gives us two years, so ideally, it would be nice to have a stud pg coming in as a frosh when Branch is a senior.
-
I'm sure he knows temple is not in his best interest and he might be waiting to see how UCLA
Roster looks after this season depending on who bolts for the NBA
We at this Point are his back up!
Basically he is stringin along the local school (Temple) lookin to play for a legend (UCLA)
But if that option is out He would travel to NY where he has the garden and
A young team (with a 4 game winning streak!) where can come in and contribute
I have no inside man just my analysis/opinion.
-
I'm sure he knows temple is not in his best interest and he might be waiting to see how UCLA
Roster looks after this season depending on who bolts for the NBA
We at this Point are his back up!
Basically he is stringin along the local school (Temple) lookin to play for a legend (UCLA)
But if that option is out He would travel to NY where he has the garden and
A young team (with a 4 game winning streak!) where can come in and contribute
I have no inside man just my analysis/opinion.
If we lose him it'll be to Temple.
-
I'm sure he knows temple is not in his best interest and he might be waiting to see how UCLA
Roster looks after this season depending on who bolts for the NBA
We at this Point are his back up!
Basically he is stringin along the local school (Temple) lookin to play for a legend (UCLA)
But if that option is out He would travel to NY where he has the garden and
A young team (with a 4 game winning streak!) where can come in and contribute
I have no inside man just my analysis/opinion.
Not much to wait for with the UCLA roster regarding point guards. They don't have one for next year. Kyle's dad's being told by the NBA that his future position is as a point forward - so the time he's spending at the 3 and 4 is to his benefit at UCLA - plus he still gets to handle 40% of the time - enuf to be in the top 5 in the conference in assists and Assist to turnover ratio. As he was with Myles Mach in high school, and Larry Drew here in college, he is exceptionally successful running with a lead guard and sharing the ball handling duties. If the stays, it doesn't impact Rysheed. Of course, Sheed may be waiting to see what Owootoah does, now that he's reclassified to 2013...
-
I'm sure he knows temple is not in his best interest and he might be waiting to see how UCLA
Roster looks after this season depending on who bolts for the NBA
We at this Point are his back up!
Basically he is stringin along the local school (Temple) lookin to play for a legend (UCLA)
But if that option is out He would travel to NY where he has the garden and
A young team (with a 4 game winning streak!) where can come in and contribute
I have no inside man just my analysis/opinion.
Not much to wait for with the UCLA roster regarding point guards. They don't have one for next year. Kyle's dad's being told by the NBA that his future position is as a point forward - so the time he's spending at the 3 and 4 is to his benefit at UCLA - plus he still gets to handle 40% of the time - enuf to be in the top 5 in the conference in assists and Assist to turnover ratio. As he was with Myles Mach in high school, and Larry Drew here in college, he is exceptionally successful running with a lead guard and sharing the ball handling duties. If the stays, it doesn't impact Rysheed. Of course, Sheed may be waiting to see what Owootoah does, now that he's reclassified to 2013...
Zach Lavine?
-
I'm sure he knows temple is not in his best interest and he might be waiting to see how UCLA
Roster looks after this season depending on who bolts for the NBA
We at this Point are his back up!
Basically he is stringin along the local school (Temple) lookin to play for a legend (UCLA)
But if that option is out He would travel to NY where he has the garden and
A young team (with a 4 game winning streak!) where can come in and contribute
I have no inside man just my analysis/opinion.
Not much to wait for with the UCLA roster regarding point guards. They don't have one for next year. Kyle's dad's being told by the NBA that his future position is as a point forward - so the time he's spending at the 3 and 4 is to his benefit at UCLA - plus he still gets to handle 40% of the time - enuf to be in the top 5 in the conference in assists and Assist to turnover ratio. As he was with Myles Mach in high school, and Larry Drew here in college, he is exceptionally successful running with a lead guard and sharing the ball handling duties. If the stays, it doesn't impact Rysheed. Of course, Sheed may be waiting to see what Owootoah does, now that he's reclassified to 2013...
Zach Lavine?
Zach can play some point, but he's a 2, and may be a three by the time school starts for him (he's grown 3 inches in the last year and a half, suposedly a legit 6'4 now and he's still 17. He'll play some backup point minutes during his college career, but he's going to replace Shabazz as the primary scorer on next years Bruin team. Greg Hicks, the SCOUT west coast recruiting guru, thinks he has more potential than any of the current UCLA frosh.
-
Any news on him?
-
Any news on him?
At this point, I think no news is good news for us.
-
Any news on him?
At this point, I think no news is good news for us.
No news is no news. Don't see how it is good or bad.
-
Any news on him?
At this point, I think no news is good news for us.
No news is no news. Don't see how it is good or bad.
I've considered Jordan a lean towards Temple. If he doesn't want to stay home, I think given the time and opportunity Lavin can convince him to come to Queens instead of UNLV.
-
Any news on him?
At this point, I think no news is good news for us.
No news is no news. Don't see how it is good or bad.
I've considered Jordan a lean towards Temple. If he doesn't want to stay home, I think given the time and opportunity Lavin can convince him to come to Queens instead of UNLV.
UCLA not UNLV
-
He tweeted. "Go St. john's" today. First positive comment I've seen.
-
He tweeted. "Go St. john's" today. First positive comment I've seen.
I hope this isn't the first game of ours he's seen. This is UGLY.
-
He tweeted. "Go St. john's" today. First positive comment I've seen.
I hope this isn't the first game of ours he's seen. This is UGLY.
Maybe it shows him how much we need him...
-
I really am beginning to think we need Rysheed. None of our guys besides Branch has shown the ability to penetrate and finish at the rim. Phil and Dee are jump shooters, not able to get to the rim at will. I think he would bring something dynamic to the team.
-
I really am beginning to think we need Rysheed. None of our guys besides Branch has shown the ability to penetrate and finish at the rim. Phil and Dee are jump shooters, not able to get to the rim at will. I think he would bring something dynamic to the team.
Second that
-
I really am beginning to think we need Rysheed. None of our guys besides Branch has shown the ability to penetrate and finish at the rim. Phil and Dee are jump shooters, not able to get to the rim at will. I think he would bring something dynamic to the team.
Second that
“@DaveTelep: Rysheed Jordan has grown two inches since the summer. Legit 6-4 now. HUGE deal and he will be a major riser.”
-
Here's a question, if you could have one next year would you want D'lo back or Rysheed in red?
-
He tweeted. "Go St. john's" today. First positive comment I've seen.
I hope this isn't the first game of ours he's seen. This is UGLY.
He's seen others
-
Here's a question, if you could have one next year would you want D'lo back or Rysheed in red?
Both, i'm greedy
-
Here's a question, if you could have one next year would you want D'lo back or Rysheed in red?
I want both. We need a guy so can penetrate like Rysheed and a SG who can score like D'Lo.
-
Here's a question, if you could have one next year would you want D'lo back or Rysheed in red?
Does Rysheed have a mohawk?
Does he have tattoos?
Most importantly does he smile on the court?
-
Here's a question, if you could have one next year would you want D'lo back or Rysheed in red?
Does Rysheed have a mohawk?
Does he have tattoos?
Most importantly does he smile on the court?
From articles I have read and comments from Philly fans, he is a non stop talker on the court. Perhaps we should stop pursuing him and go after Justin Bieber.
-
Somone noted that they hope our ugly game today wasn't the first game R. Jordan has seen our team play ... but it was a perfect game for him to see. We have a talented, young, and hungry team that lacks a point guard. Phil is doing his best but he isn't a playmaker and isn't a distributer and doesn't have the handle. R. Jordan should be signing on right now, he'll have an immediate role on our team. Temple? C'mon, SJU's team next year would blow Temple out of the water.
-
Somone noted that they hope our ugly game today wasn't the first game R. Jordan has seen our team play ... but it was a perfect game for him to see. We have a talented, young, and hungry team that lacks a point guard. Phil is doing his best but he isn't a playmaker and isn't a distributer and doesn't have the handle. R. Jordan should be signing on right now, he'll have an immediate role on our team. Temple? C'mon, SJU's team next year would blow Temple out of the water.
Let's hope that's how he viewed todays game!
-
Well I guess his game was on ESPN or something and they conducted an interview. According to Twitter it wasn't what you would call the greatest interview judging by those making comments about him.
I'm sure our fan base will love that.
-
Here's a question, if you could have one next year would you want D'lo back or Rysheed in red?
I think we need a real PG. Not a combo guard but a Rysheed type guard. Branch, Green, and if Dom improves guard skills we can cover the other guard spot. A real PG, wow. A kid who can get to the rim, get fouled, and hit his foul shots, yes. Thought Dom and even Phil had ability to get to the rim, but they don't. If the guy can play D, great. Wait, I never saw Rysheed play. He's good, right?
-
Dom can't get to the rim?
-
Dom can't get to the rim?
Not particularly well.
-
Dom can't get to the rim?
Sorry, meant D.Lo and Phil. I thought I remembered them both getting there last year. I remember we won at Cincy last year when Moe followed D.Lo's drive and miss with a tip in. Moe could also put it down and get to the rim going base line too. A couple a years ago we had a bunch of guys who could get to the rim in the half court. Who really gets to the rim for us in the half court. Is that something Rysheed Jordon can do?. Does going against a zone make it impossible to get to the rim?
-
DLo can, against certain opponents. Others can sometimes jam him up and block his shot. Phil is better pulling up for the teardrop. Branch has shown an ability to break down the defense and penetrate to the rim. I wish he had been ale to play today. That, combined with Southerland returning, made a big difference in the final score.
-
http://m.espn.go.com/ncb/story?storyId=8926184 (http://m.espn.go.com/ncb/story?storyId=8926184)
ESPN update from 3 days ago I do not have a subscription.
-
Similar to what was published a few days ago, i.e., predictions by Telep, Biancardi, Rankin, etc.
-
Somone noted that they hope our ugly game today wasn't the first game R. Jordan has seen our team play ... but it was a perfect game for him to see. We have a talented, young, and hungry team that lacks a point guard. Phil is doing his best but he isn't a playmaker and isn't a distributer and doesn't have the handle. R. Jordan should be signing on right now, he'll have an immediate role on our team. Temple? C'mon, SJU's team next year would blow Temple out of the water.
Too bad that this years Temple team would blow St. Johns out of the water. Have you forgotten that Temple actually beat the Cuse this year as we lost by 19 and were never ahead? I don't understand why anyone would think that we have a superior product to anyone right now. And if we lose Sampson to the league, we are a bottom level BE team next year.
-
Somone noted that they hope our ugly game today wasn't the first game R. Jordan has seen our team play ... but it was a perfect game for him to see. We have a talented, young, and hungry team that lacks a point guard. Phil is doing his best but he isn't a playmaker and isn't a distributer and doesn't have the handle. R. Jordan should be signing on right now, he'll have an immediate role on our team. Temple? C'mon, SJU's team next year would blow Temple out of the water.
Too bad that this years Temple team would blow St. Johns out of the water. Have you forgotten that Temple actually beat the Cuse this year as we lost by 19 and were never ahead? I don't understand why anyone would think that we have a superior product to anyone right now. And if we lose Sampson to the league, we are a bottom level BE team next year.
We have a better product than over half the Big East right now.
-
Somone noted that they hope our ugly game today wasn't the first game R. Jordan has seen our team play ... but it was a perfect game for him to see. We have a talented, young, and hungry team that lacks a point guard. Phil is doing his best but he isn't a playmaker and isn't a distributer and doesn't have the handle. R. Jordan should be signing on right now, he'll have an immediate role on our team. Temple? C'mon, SJU's team next year would blow Temple out of the water.
Too bad that this years Temple team would blow St. Johns out of the water. Have you forgotten that Temple actually beat the Cuse this year as we lost by 19 and were never ahead? I don't understand why anyone would think that we have a superior product to anyone right now. And if we lose Sampson to the league, we are a bottom level BE team next year.
A 16-7 (5-4 in the A10) Temple team with losses to St. Bon, St. Joes and Canisius would "blow us out of the water?"
You actually wonder why posters label you as negative?
-
Again, why would anyone respond to Mirabella posts. Those who do react like a bull to the red cape of a matador. It is silly to give this poster any creidibilty. She/he will go away if we ignore him/her. Enough already. It is becoming annoying.
-
I bet ya rysheed picks us.
-
I bet ya rysheed picks us.
Hope you are right, this kid is the real deal
-
I hope he picks us, could have third big east rookie of the year in a row. Just hope Jakarr stays one more for big east player of the year in our final season in league.
-
Somone noted that they hope our ugly game today wasn't the first game R. Jordan has seen our team play ... but it was a perfect game for him to see. We have a talented, young, and hungry team that lacks a point guard. Phil is doing his best but he isn't a playmaker and isn't a distributer and doesn't have the handle. R. Jordan should be signing on right now, he'll have an immediate role on our team. Temple? C'mon, SJU's team next year would blow Temple out of the water.
Too bad that this years Temple team would blow St. Johns out of the water. Have you forgotten that Temple actually beat the Cuse this year as we lost by 19 and were never ahead? I don't understand why anyone would think that we have a superior product to anyone right now. And if we lose Sampson to the league, we are a bottom level BE team next year.
A 16-7 (5-4 in the A10) Temple team with losses to St. Bon, St. Joes and Canisius would "blow us out of the water?"
You actually wonder why posters label you as negative?
Well perhaps not blow us out of the water but they would be a tough out. I just don't get why posters feel that we are so superior to other programs at this point in time. We have not proven anything yet and our program has been dismal at best for a few years now.
If posters label me as negative or don't believe that I deserve a response, they are either to young or are just not hearing or understanding what I am saying. Yes I am a big fan of the program, yes I want things to get better and yes I have seen improvement under the new staff, but unlike a small child who puts down others around him/ her to make themselves feel better, I am not going to put down other programs as inferior when the program I root for has a ways to go before deserving such a superiority label.
-
without Rysheed, Temple is in trouble next year. Will be in a bit of a re-build.
-
Who said we are so superior to temple? Link please.
-
Ken Pom has us at 90 and Temple at 76. On a neutral court, they'd probably be favored by ~2 points. Basically, they are slightly better than us but it's a coin flip in reality.
-
I think was the jerk who said we were so superior to Temple. Just to position the debate, here is what is being argued: that SJU next year would blow Temple's team, next year, out of the water.
-
Who said we are so superior to temple? Link please.
A complete fraud. She/He has been exposed already.
Makes up her/his own straw man argument and then proceeds to argue against it.
Then to produce cover that this fraud is really a "great SJU fan" this fraud starts bogus disingenuous threads that imply they like Coach Lavin and SJU.
Why does anyone give this phony any time is beyond me.
-
Who said we are so superior to temple? Link please.
A complete fraud. She/He has been exposed already.
Makes up her/his own straw man argument and then proceeds to argue against it.
Then to produce cover that this fraud is really a "great SJU fan" this fraud starts bogus disingenuous threads that imply they like Coach Lavin and SJU.
Why does anyone give this phony any time is beyond me.
Another attack. What's the matter Fordham, cant debate on merit so you resort to personal attacks? Why is this type of attack allowed? Where are the mods? What's up Dave?
-
Hey fordham96 -- not sure if I understand your post, but just in case you are suggesting that I am involved in some scheme I assure you that the only scheme I am involved in is not doing my actual work while I read and comment on posts concerning SJU hoops!
-
Who said we are so superior to temple? Link please.
A complete fraud. She/He has been exposed already.
Makes up her/his own straw man argument and then proceeds to argue against it.
Then to produce cover that this fraud is really a "great SJU fan" this fraud starts bogus disingenuous threads that imply they like Coach Lavin and SJU.
Why does anyone give this phony any time is beyond me.
Another attack. What's the matter Fordham, cant debate on merit so you resort to personal attacks? Why is this type of attack allowed? Where are the mods? What's up Dave?
You have all the qualities of bad writing. You're stupid (that is obvious to anyone) and you engage in self-congratulation.
Terrific combination.
-
Hey fordham96 -- not sure if I understand your post, but just in case you are suggesting that I am involved in some scheme I assure you that the only scheme I am involved in is not doing my actual work while I read and comment on posts concerning SJU hoops!
No, I thought I was obvious in terms of who my post was speaking to.
-
Yes, you were obvious but it takes me longer to get things. I just wanted to make sure my SJU fanhood wasn't being called into question. Obviously I am a bit touchy.
I'm always touchy when it comes to someone saying that a local team can beat SJU. It has been hard enough to live with the Cuse bit about being "New York's team" (although I saw at one of our recent games students with signs saying SJU "New York City's Team") and even worse, losing sleep, when someone said that Stony Brook would beat us which I could never accept ... so Temple is another team, just close enough, can't give up any ground to them, especially since we're battling them for a recruit. Which is why this debate about Temple vs. St. John's for next year is so important. Jordan probably reads this thread, right?
-
All Rysheed has to do is look at Moe and he'll realize that SJU is the most reliable track to the league. To me he looks like a one and done guy and there are no better hands than Lavin's under such circumstances. Steve plays his talent and doesn't worry about replacing them. I make Lawrence's Cincy choice as a straight cash deal. The closer the NCAA guys get to the Midwest the blinder they get. Otherwise comparing Cincy to the glitz and exposure here is totally laughable. Cash leaves no tracks but anyone dumb enough to make that choice is bound to screw up and start sporting some bling sooner than later. A nice project for a phd candidate somewhere here but if Stephenson didn't produce an aroma they must have their ducks pretty well lined up. And Jeez! We even beat them this year. A real head-scratcher.
-
I really hope Jordan is paying attention to what Lavin is doing at St. John's. In 3 years, our coaching staff has already put 1 player in the NBA (Harkless) and potentially has 2 others who are on the cusp (Harrison and Sampson). If the key players stay past this season, which is probably the expectation at this stage, and the team is able to add a dynamic playmaking guard in Jordan to go along with an already solid backcourt with Harrison, Branch, and Greene, then they are going to be a terrific team next year. And he in no way should be discouraged by who is currently there because he will get plenty of PT out there.
-
I really hope Jordan is paying attention to what Lavin is doing at St. John's. In 3 years, our coaching staff has already put 1 player in the NBA (Harkless) and potentially has 2 others who are on the cusp (Harrison and Sampson). If the key players stay past this season, which is probably the expectation at this stage, and the team is able to add a dynamic playmaking guard in Jordan to go along with an already solid backcourt with Harrison, Branch, and Greene, then they are going to be a terrific team next year. And he in no way should be discouraged by who is currently there because he will get plenty of PT out there.
All well and good but I'd like some continuity.
-
I really hope Jordan is paying attention to what Lavin is doing at St. John's. In 3 years, our coaching staff has already put 1 player in the NBA (Harkless) and potentially has 2 others who are on the cusp (Harrison and Sampson). If the key players stay past this season, which is probably the expectation at this stage, and the team is able to add a dynamic playmaking guard in Jordan to go along with an already solid backcourt with Harrison, Branch, and Greene, then they are going to be a terrific team next year. And he in no way should be discouraged by who is currently there because he will get plenty of PT out there.
All well and good but I'd like some continuity.
Truth is Moose, that right now we actually have a decent mix of kids with pro potential and 4-year players. Look at our core with guys like Garrett, Pointer, Greene, Balamou, Branch, jones, Gift etc. add a few kids that are cusp early entrants like Harrison and Obekpa and a surefire pros like Sampson and Harkless and it is a good mix. It's really only 2 classes in for Lavin and he's putting out pros already. We also have some serious 4-year talent on the team. Need to give it a few more years to really see how it all shakes out, but we have a nice blend thus far. Guys like Harkless and Sampson have just really played much better than their high school ranking which is just good scouting.
-
16h
Dave Telep ? @DaveTelep
Rysheed Jordan has grown two inches since the summer. Legit 6-4 now. HUGE deal and he will be a major riser.
-
I really hope Jordan is paying attention to what Lavin is doing at St. John's. In 3 years, our coaching staff has already put 1 player in the NBA (Harkless) and potentially has 2 others who are on the cusp (Harrison and Sampson). If the key players stay past this season, which is probably the expectation at this stage, and the team is able to add a dynamic playmaking guard in Jordan to go along with an already solid backcourt with Harrison, Branch, and Greene, then they are going to be a terrific team next year. And he in no way should be discouraged by who is currently there because he will get plenty of PT out there.
Why his final 3 looks strange to me with Temple (even as his "hometown team"). While Lavoy Allen has made the league this year, He's the ONLY Owl in the League. The last Guard to make it was Lynn Greer, who had a 41 game cup of coffee career. Before him, you have to go all the way back to Mark Macon. In it's entire history, Temple hasn't produced a single 3 assist a game career NBA player. A single 5 rebound a game player. A single 15 pt a game player. Only TWO double digit NBA players (pretty far apart, too - Eddie Jones and Guy Rodgers).
Lavin, as we know has sent 4 PGs to the league, and 15 players to the NBA in 9 years as a head coach (a truly mind boggling number). And Rysheed's other school, UCLA, has the most NBA players ever. And far and away the most PGs ever (there was a day in the NBA 3 years ago, where Baron Davis, Earl Watson, Jordan Farmar, Darren Collison, Russell Westbrook and Jrue Holiday all started at PG for their teams. 6 of the 30 starting PGs in the league from one school). I think the decision is waiting on a determination of Ben Howland's status. Howland, in 9 seasons at UCLA, has sent 13 players to the NBA, and 6 Point Guards, including 2 All-Star PGs (and two other PGS from Pitt - 8 total in 13 years). To put that in Perspective, Mike Krzyzewski, in nearly 30 years at Duke, has sent 8 PGs to the NBA. And that's counting Austin Rivers as a PG.
I don't think the numbers are lost on these recruits.
-
Me thinks the ship has sailed on this one .
-
Me thinks the ship has sailed on this one .
So your sayin there's a chance!
;)
-
I really hope Jordan is paying attention to what Lavin is doing at St. John's. In 3 years, our coaching staff has already put 1 player in the NBA (Harkless) and potentially has 2 others who are on the cusp (Harrison and Sampson). If the key players stay past this season, which is probably the expectation at this stage, and the team is able to add a dynamic playmaking guard in Jordan to go along with an already solid backcourt with Harrison, Branch, and Greene, then they are going to be a terrific team next year. And he in no way should be discouraged by who is currently there because he will get plenty of PT out there.
Why his final 3 looks strange to me with Temple (even as his "hometown team"). While Lavoy Allen has made the league this year, He's the ONLY Owl in the League. The last Guard to make it was Lynn Greer, who had a 41 game cup of coffee career. Before him, you have to go all the way back to Mark Macon. In it's entire history, Temple hasn't produced a single 3 assist a game career NBA player. A single 5 rebound a game player. A single 15 pt a game player. Only TWO double digit NBA players (pretty far apart, too - Eddie Jones and Guy Rodgers).
Lavin, as we know has sent 4 PGs to the league, and 15 players to the NBA in 9 years as a head coach (a truly mind boggling number). And Rysheed's other school, UCLA, has the most NBA players ever. And far and away the most PGs ever (there was a day in the NBA 3 years ago, where Baron Davis, Earl Watson, Jordan Farmar, Darren Collison, Russell Westbrook and Jrue Holiday all started at PG for their teams. 6 of the 30 starting PGs in the league from one school). I think the decision is waiting on a determination of Ben Howland's status. Howland, in 9 seasons at UCLA, has sent 13 players to the NBA, and 6 Point Guards, including 2 All-Star PGs (and two other PGS from Pitt - 8 total in 13 years). To put that in Perspective, Mike Krzyzewski, in nearly 30 years at Duke, has sent 8 PGs to the NBA. And that's counting Austin Rivers as a PG.
I don't think the numbers are lost on these recruits.
I don't agree with that at all.
Under that theory Jarrell Martin would've signed with us over LSU, Ledo and Dunn would never have signed with Providence.
Heck, guys like Rosario (didn't work out but w/e) or Myles Mack would never have signed with Rutgers.
I don't buy it. Staying home is a huge pull on some guys, and doesn't matter at all to other kids. I've gotten a feeling all throughout his recruitment that Rysheed is part of the former group.
Plus UCLA already has two guards signed, you're heavily recruiting Oootawh, it's looking like point forward KA might be back, and you have a 3rd guard in Powell. And SJU will likely have D'angelo, Branch, and Greene returning. Plus, Marco getting minutes at sg.
He'll play 38 mins a game at Temple. He'd get 20 at either of the other programs. For some guys, that matters a lot.
-
Me thinks the ship has sailed on this one .
When we hear Moose and SJU79 chime in in agreement we'll know we've got him. ;) :)
-
I really hope Jordan is paying attention to what Lavin is doing at St. John's. In 3 years, our coaching staff has already put 1 player in the NBA (Harkless) and potentially has 2 others who are on the cusp (Harrison and Sampson). If the key players stay past this season, which is probably the expectation at this stage, and the team is able to add a dynamic playmaking guard in Jordan to go along with an already solid backcourt with Harrison, Branch, and Greene, then they are going to be a terrific team next year. And he in no way should be discouraged by who is currently there because he will get plenty of PT out there.
Why his final 3 looks strange to me with Temple (even as his "hometown team"). While Lavoy Allen has made the league this year, He's the ONLY Owl in the League. The last Guard to make it was Lynn Greer, who had a 41 game cup of coffee career. Before him, you have to go all the way back to Mark Macon. In it's entire history, Temple hasn't produced a single 3 assist a game career NBA player. A single 5 rebound a game player. A single 15 pt a game player. Only TWO double digit NBA players (pretty far apart, too - Eddie Jones and Guy Rodgers).
Lavin, as we know has sent 4 PGs to the league, and 15 players to the NBA in 9 years as a head coach (a truly mind boggling number). And Rysheed's other school, UCLA, has the most NBA players ever. And far and away the most PGs ever (there was a day in the NBA 3 years ago, where Baron Davis, Earl Watson, Jordan Farmar, Darren Collison, Russell Westbrook and Jrue Holiday all started at PG for their teams. 6 of the 30 starting PGs in the league from one school). I think the decision is waiting on a determination of Ben Howland's status. Howland, in 9 seasons at UCLA, has sent 13 players to the NBA, and 6 Point Guards, including 2 All-Star PGs (and two other PGS from Pitt - 8 total in 13 years). To put that in Perspective, Mike Krzyzewski, in nearly 30 years at Duke, has sent 8 PGs to the NBA. And that's counting Austin Rivers as a PG.
'
I don't think the numbers are lost on these recruits.
I don't agree with that at all.
Under that theory Jarrell Martin would've signed with us over LSU, Ledo and Dunn would never have signed with Providence.
Heck, guys like Rosario (didn't work out but w/e) or Myles Mack would never have signed with Rutgers.
I don't buy it. Staying home is a huge pull on some guys, and doesn't matter at all to other kids. I've gotten a feeling all throughout his recruitment that Rysheed is part of the former group.
Plus UCLA already has two guards signed, you're heavily recruiting Oootawh, it's looking like point forward KA might be back, and you have a 3rd guard in Powell. And SJU will likely have D'angelo, Branch, and Greene returning. Plus, Marco getting minutes at sg.
He'll play 38 mins a game at Temple. He'd get 20 at either of the other programs. For some guys, that matters a lot.
Good to see you up and at em CR, but don't forget about dionte christmas
-
Me thinks the ship has sailed on this one .
Damn
-
I really hope Jordan is paying attention to what Lavin is doing at St. John's. In 3 years, our coaching staff has already put 1 player in the NBA (Harkless) and potentially has 2 others who are on the cusp (Harrison and Sampson). If the key players stay past this season, which is probably the expectation at this stage, and the team is able to add a dynamic playmaking guard in Jordan to go along with an already solid backcourt with Harrison, Branch, and Greene, then they are going to be a terrific team next year. And he in no way should be discouraged by who is currently there because he will get plenty of PT out there.
Why his final 3 looks strange to me with Temple (even as his "hometown team"). While Lavoy Allen has made the league this year, He's the ONLY Owl in the League. The last Guard to make it was Lynn Greer, who had a 41 game cup of coffee career. Before him, you have to go all the way back to Mark Macon. In it's entire history, Temple hasn't produced a single 3 assist a game career NBA player. A single 5 rebound a game player. A single 15 pt a game player. Only TWO double digit NBA players (pretty far apart, too - Eddie Jones and Guy Rodgers).
Lavin, as we know has sent 4 PGs to the league, and 15 players to the NBA in 9 years as a head coach (a truly mind boggling number). And Rysheed's other school, UCLA, has the most NBA players ever. And far and away the most PGs ever (there was a day in the NBA 3 years ago, where Baron Davis, Earl Watson, Jordan Farmar, Darren Collison, Russell Westbrook and Jrue Holiday all started at PG for their teams. 6 of the 30 starting PGs in the league from one school). I think the decision is waiting on a determination of Ben Howland's status. Howland, in 9 seasons at UCLA, has sent 13 players to the NBA, and 6 Point Guards, including 2 All-Star PGs (and two other PGS from Pitt - 8 total in 13 years). To put that in Perspective, Mike Krzyzewski, in nearly 30 years at Duke, has sent 8 PGs to the NBA. And that's counting Austin Rivers as a PG.
'
I don't think the numbers are lost on these recruits.
I don't agree with that at all.
Under that theory Jarrell Martin would've signed with us over LSU, Ledo and Dunn would never have signed with Providence.
Heck, guys like Rosario (didn't work out but w/e) or Myles Mack would never have signed with Rutgers.
I don't buy it. Staying home is a huge pull on some guys, and doesn't matter at all to other kids. I've gotten a feeling all throughout his recruitment that Rysheed is part of the former group.
Plus UCLA already has two guards signed, you're heavily recruiting Oootawh, it's looking like point forward KA might be back, and you have a 3rd guard in Powell. And SJU will likely have D'angelo, Branch, and Greene returning. Plus, Marco getting minutes at sg.
He'll play 38 mins a game at Temple. He'd get 20 at either of the other programs. For some guys, that matters a lot.
Good to see you up and at em CR, but don't forget about dionte christmas
UCLA with no PGs whatsoever after Drew leaves this year. Powell is a scorer/defender, but no PG instinct at all. Kyle is 6'9 - and as you say, plays a Point Forward - very effective running WITH a PG, as he did with Mack at St. Anthony's, and Drew at UCLA. The inoming kids are both 6'4 combo wings - with Lavine expected to grow to 6-5 or 6-6. They'll be replacing Shabazz. There's 34 minutes a game wide open at PG that need to be replaced.
Personally, I think Rysheed to St Johns and Owootoah to UCLA makes the most sense. (Steve likes a scoring PG ala Baron, while Howland prefers a pass first/speedy defender). But I wouldn't cry if the order was reversed! :)
-
I still don't think that this ship has sailed. Think he is having a hard time deciding between SJU and Temple which is the only reason he's taking this long. Just as Lawrence leaving for Cincy surprised us, I think this one could go either way as well. I just hope he decides soon, because I don't want to be caught and miss on a nice player like Severe who can help us, and Jordan spurn us at the same time. We certainly need help scoring in the backcourt regardless. Cmon Rysheed.
-
I still don't think that this ship has sailed. Think he is having a hard time deciding between SJU and Temple which is the only reason he's taking this long. Just as Lawrence leaving for Cincy surprised us, I think this one could go either way as well. I just hope he decides soon, because I don't want to be caught and miss on a nice player like Severe who can help us, and Jordan spurn us at the same time. We certainly need help scoring in the backcourt regardless. Cmon Rysheed.
I am not sure why anyone has said the ship has sailed. The recruitment has gone on pretty silently for the past few months.
-
I still don't think that this ship has sailed. Think he is having a hard time deciding between SJU and Temple which is the only reason he's taking this long. Just as Lawrence leaving for Cincy surprised us, I think this one could go either way as well. I just hope he decides soon, because I don't want to be caught and miss on a nice player like Severe who can help us, and Jordan spurn us at the same time. We certainly need help scoring in the backcourt regardless. Cmon Rysheed.
I am not sure why anyone has said the ship has sailed. The recruitment has gone on pretty silently for the past few months.
Quietly to interviews and such... I am hearing it has sailed.
-
I still don't think that this ship has sailed. Think he is having a hard time deciding between SJU and Temple which is the only reason he's taking this long. Just as Lawrence leaving for Cincy surprised us, I think this one could go either way as well. I just hope he decides soon, because I don't want to be caught and miss on a nice player like Severe who can help us, and Jordan spurn us at the same time. We certainly need help scoring in the backcourt regardless. Cmon Rysheed.
I am not sure why anyone has said the ship has sailed. The recruitment has gone on pretty silently for the past few months.
Quietly to interviews and such... I am hearing it has sailed.
sweet. no incoming recruits this year.
-
Jordan up to 22 in new ESPN ratings from 65. Can't say extra attention helps us IMO. Bet he opens up recruiting. Could be wrong, but just a feeling.
“@ESPNPhil: @DaveTelep and @PaulBiancardi break down the new ESPN 100, ESPN 60 and ESPN 25 player rankings. #HotOffThePresses RecruitingNation: New hoops player rankings - ESPN Video - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=8943218)”
-
I am not sure why anyone has said the ship has sailed. The recruitment has gone on pretty silently for the past few months.
Silently except for all of the posters here with inside information and ties to the program that are rock solid.
Also - I saw Christian Jones on CAMPUS last week, the kid is a BEAST - he is Anthony Glover with a jump shot
-
The Anthony Glover who was NYC high school player of the year?
-
The Anthony Glover who was NYC high school player of the year?
PMG was joking. It looks like he was imitating OldRed's style.
-
Actually hoping Christian Jones comes back next year, keeps his head up because there will be "PT" in the front court for 2013-14.
4-5s: Obekpa, Gift, Jones
1-2-3s:Branch, Greene, Harrison, Marco, Dom, Felix.
Assuming 3'Angelo comes back and JaKarr goes NBA.
-
I still don't think that this ship has sailed. Think he is having a hard time deciding between SJU and Temple which is the only reason he's taking this long. Just as Lawrence leaving for Cincy surprised us, I think this one could go either way as well. I just hope he decides soon, because I don't want to be caught and miss on a nice player like Severe who can help us, and Jordan spurn us at the same time. We certainly need help scoring in the backcourt regardless. Cmon Rysheed.
I am not sure why anyone has said the ship has sailed. The recruitment has gone on pretty silently for the past few months.
Quietly to interviews and such... I am hearing it has sailed.
Perhaps you are right LOL
-
I still don't think that this ship has sailed. Think he is having a hard time deciding between SJU and Temple which is the only reason he's taking this long. Just as Lawrence leaving for Cincy surprised us, I think this one could go either way as well. I just hope he decides soon, because I don't want to be caught and miss on a nice player like Severe who can help us, and Jordan spurn us at the same time. We certainly need help scoring in the backcourt regardless. Cmon Rysheed.
I am not sure why anyone has said the ship has sailed. The recruitment has gone on pretty silently for the past few months.
Quietly to interviews and such... I am hearing it has sailed.
Perhaps you are right LOL
Hope I'm wrong :)
-
I still don't think that this ship has sailed. Think he is having a hard time deciding between SJU and Temple which is the only reason he's taking this long. Just as Lawrence leaving for Cincy surprised us, I think this one could go either way as well. I just hope he decides soon, because I don't want to be caught and miss on a nice player like Severe who can help us, and Jordan spurn us at the same time. We certainly need help scoring in the backcourt regardless. Cmon Rysheed.
I am not sure why anyone has said the ship has sailed. The recruitment has gone on pretty silently for the past few months.
Quietly to interviews and such... I am hearing it has sailed.
Perhaps you are right LOL
Hope I'm wrong :)
Me too LOL
For the record I am told it has been stagnant
We have put on a push since the Lawrence decision
-
we have put on a push? what is the hurry?..lost chris to the cuse as we were lackadasical also ..we cannot afford to depend on the charm of mr. lavin we need top shelf recruits asap lest we become the paul hewitt branch of new york...one and done recruits and no consistancy
-
we have put on a push? what is the hurry?..lost chris to the cuse as we were lackadasical also ..we cannot afford to depend on the charm of mr. lavin we need top shelf recruits asap lest we become the paul hewitt branch of new york...one and done recruits and no consistancy
We? No WE don't have to do anything.
-
we have put on a push? what is the hurry?..lost chris to the cuse as we were lackadasical also ..we cannot afford to depend on the charm of mr. lavin we need top shelf recruits asap lest we become the paul hewitt branch of new york...one and done recruits and no consistancy
We? No WE don't have to do anything.
Sorry I used WE lol
-
Rysheed moved up to 22 in the ESPN Rankings (ahead of Lawrence).
-
Rysheed moved up to 22 in the ESPN Rankings (ahead of Lawrence).
Well Lawrence hasn't played all yeAr
-
Oh I know but Rysheed did also jump like 30+ spots. Pretty impressive jump.
-
Oh I know but Rysheed did also jump like 30+ spots. Pretty impressive jump.
Not really, they just had him wrong. Rivals has had him top 30 this whole time.
-
Oh I know but Rysheed did also jump like 30+ spots. Pretty impressive jump.
Not really, they just had him wrong. Rivals has had him top 30 this whole time.
You are right
-
Have to admit I don't check Rivals very often these days. I have a preference toward ESPN and Scout personally.
-
Have to admit I don't check Rivals very often these days. I have a preference toward ESPN and Scout personally.
Scout is horrible.
To be honest they all are pretty pathetic when it comes to hoops.
With football you know what time each recruit wakes up and when they take a piss.
-
Have to admit I don't check Rivals very often these days. I have a preference toward ESPN and Scout personally.
Scout is horrible.
To be honest they all are pretty pathetic when it comes to hoops.
With football you know what time each recruit wakes up and when they take a piss.
Agree 100%
Rivals is probably the best of the three though
-
we have put on a push? what is the hurry?..lost chris to the cuse as we were lackadasical also ..we cannot afford to depend on the charm of mr. lavin we need top shelf recruits asap lest we become the paul hewitt branch of new york...one and done recruits and no consistancy
What is the push? A written note sent by carrier pidgeon asking him if he still has any interest in St. john's.
-
Have to admit I don't check Rivals very often these days. I have a preference toward ESPN and Scout personally.
Scout is horrible.
To be honest they all are pretty pathetic when it comes to hoops.
With football you know what time each recruit wakes up and when they take a piss.
Agree 100%
Rivals is probably the best of the three though
Rivals has been the worst of the 3 for quite some time. They barely have guys on the road checking out players. No fault of Eric Bossi, who I respect very much, but he can't be everywhere. Scout has Evan Daniels + Brian Snow and ESPN has Dave Telep + Paul Biancardi + Reggie Rankin + Adam Finklestein + John Stovall.
Jerry Meyer let Rivals slip so far and letting him go was the right move but replacing him with Alex Kline does nothing for their scouting.
ESPN has most man power and best presentation. Scout is at all of the big events which allows them to see who they need to.
-
Seems like a decent kid;
“@matt_breen: Today's Inq: Temple target Rysheed Jordan @sheedjordan is more than a hoops star. He's his mother's main man http://bit.ly/WMLnzQ (http://bit.ly/WMLnzQ)”
-
Seems like a decent kid;
“@matt_breen: Today's Inq: Temple target Rysheed Jordan @sheedjordan is more than a hoops star. He's his mother's main man http://bit.ly/WMLnzQ (http://bit.ly/WMLnzQ)”
He is but also rolls with a big entourage
-
"No representatives from Temple, UCLA, or St. John's were spotted at Southern during Saturday night's Public League Class A championship game. But the three finalists for Rysheed Jordan's services will no doubt hear about his last-minute heroics."
http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/high_school/pennsylvania/20130216_Rysheed_Jordan_lifts_Vaux_in_thriller.html (http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/high_school/pennsylvania/20130216_Rysheed_Jordan_lifts_Vaux_in_thriller.html)
-
"No representatives from Temple, UCLA, or St. John's were spotted at Southern during Saturday night's Public League Class A championship game. But the three finalists for Rysheed Jordan's services will no doubt hear about his last-minute heroics."
http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/high_school/pennsylvania/20130216_Rysheed_Jordan_lifts_Vaux_in_thriller.html (http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/high_school/pennsylvania/20130216_Rysheed_Jordan_lifts_Vaux_in_thriller.html)
With out time off our entire staff and roster should have been there
-
"No representatives from Temple, UCLA, or St. John's were spotted at Southern during Saturday night's Public League Class A championship game. But the three finalists for Rysheed Jordan's services will no doubt hear about his last-minute heroics."
http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/high_school/pennsylvania/20130216_Rysheed_Jordan_lifts_Vaux_in_thriller.html (http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/high_school/pennsylvania/20130216_Rysheed_Jordan_lifts_Vaux_in_thriller.html)
With out time off our entire staff and roster should have been there
Unless his decision has already been made.
-
"No representatives from Temple, UCLA, or St. John's were spotted at Southern during Saturday night's Public League Class A championship game. But the three finalists for Rysheed Jordan's services will no doubt hear about his last-minute heroics."
http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/high_school/pennsylvania/20130216_Rysheed_Jordan_lifts_Vaux_in_thriller.html (http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/high_school/pennsylvania/20130216_Rysheed_Jordan_lifts_Vaux_in_thriller.html)
With out time off our entire staff and roster should have been there
Can't have entire staff there. Against NCAA rules.
-
"No representatives from Temple, UCLA, or St. John's were spotted at Southern during Saturday night's Public League Class A championship game. But the three finalists for Rysheed Jordan's services will no doubt hear about his last-minute heroics."
http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/high_school/pennsylvania/20130216_Rysheed_Jordan_lifts_Vaux_in_thriller.html (http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/high_school/pennsylvania/20130216_Rysheed_Jordan_lifts_Vaux_in_thriller.html)
With out time off our entire staff and roster should have been there
Can't have entire staff there. Against NCAA rules.
One coach has to be on campus correct?
-
"No representatives from Temple, UCLA, or St. John's were spotted at Southern during Saturday night's Public League Class A championship game. But the three finalists for Rysheed Jordan's services will no doubt hear about his last-minute heroics."
http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/high_school/pennsylvania/20130216_Rysheed_Jordan_lifts_Vaux_in_thriller.html (http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/high_school/pennsylvania/20130216_Rysheed_Jordan_lifts_Vaux_in_thriller.html)
With out time off our entire staff and roster should have been there
Can't have entire staff there. Against NCAA rules.
You get my point though
-
"No representatives from Temple, UCLA, or St. John's were spotted at Southern during Saturday night's Public League Class A championship game. But the three finalists for Rysheed Jordan's services will no doubt hear about his last-minute heroics."
http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/high_school/pennsylvania/20130216_Rysheed_Jordan_lifts_Vaux_in_thriller.html (http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/high_school/pennsylvania/20130216_Rysheed_Jordan_lifts_Vaux_in_thriller.html)
With out time off our entire staff and roster should have been there
Can't have entire staff there. Against NCAA rules.
One coach has to be on campus correct?
Could we have had all 3 asst coaches there? Or did we need 1 guy staying back since Lavin is out.
-
Surprised we had no one at Jordan's game if above article is true. (If we are still in this) If we are indeed behind on 2014, it is disappointing to say the least.
-
Surprised we had no one at Jordan's game if above article is true. (If we are still in this) If we are indeed behind on 2014, it is disappointing to say the least.
Is there any positive news on any recruiting front? Seems like SJU has struck out on 2013 and I'm not hearing any good stuff on any 2014 prospects
-
Surprised we had no one at Jordan's game if above article is true. (If we are still in this) If we are indeed behind on 2014, it is disappointing to say the least.
Is there any positive news on any recruiting front? Seems like SJU has struck out on 2013 and I'm not hearing any good stuff on any 2014 prospects
Concerned as well, but have faith Lavin & staff will work their tails off to get some solid folks for 2013 and 2014. Make that "guarded" faith.
-
"No representatives from Temple, UCLA, or St. John's were spotted at Southern during Saturday night's Public League Class A championship game. But the three finalists for Rysheed Jordan's services will no doubt hear about his last-minute heroics."
http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/high_school/pennsylvania/20130216_Rysheed_Jordan_lifts_Vaux_in_thriller.html (http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/high_school/pennsylvania/20130216_Rysheed_Jordan_lifts_Vaux_in_thriller.html)
0 for 4 fts in first half-seems like he would fit right in at the teepee! :)
-
Lavins early recruiting success has really done a lot to lessen my disappointment in recruiting recently. In years past I was much more disappointed in losing syl and lance then I was to lose Jermaine and Chris.
With that being said, I really really want this kid. Extremely talented and exactly what we need. I think a three guard lineup of rysheed and branch and the 1/2 and dlow at the 3 would be extremely potent on offense and more than capable on defense.
-
"No representatives from Temple, UCLA, or St. John's were spotted at Southern during Saturday night's Public League Class A championship game. But the three finalists for Rysheed Jordan's services will no doubt hear about his last-minute heroics."
http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/high_school/pennsylvania/20130216_Rysheed_Jordan_lifts_Vaux_in_thriller.html (http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/high_school/pennsylvania/20130216_Rysheed_Jordan_lifts_Vaux_in_thriller.html)
With out time off our entire staff and roster should have been there
Can't have entire staff there. Against NCAA rules.
One coach has to be on campus correct?
No more then 3 total coaches can be on the road recruiting at one time. All 3 can be in the same gym but you can't have all 4 possible coaches on the road at the same time.
It is a live recruiting period.
-
With only 2 targets someone should be at every one of his games. I think lavin uses a laid back approach which worked at ucla. At ucla just offering a kid was enough. Here lav needs to actually win kids over.
-
With only 2 targets someone should be at every one of his games. I think lavin uses a laid back approach which worked at ucla. At ucla just offering a kid was enough. Here lav needs to actually win kids over.
That is 100% false.
-
Lavin is lazy... ::)
-
With only 2 targets someone should be at every one of his games. I think lavin uses a laid back approach which worked at ucla. At ucla just offering a kid was enough. Here lav needs to actually win kids over.
That is 100% false.
How so? Enlighten me.
-
With only 2 targets someone should be at every one of his games. I think lavin uses a laid back approach which worked at ucla. At ucla just offering a kid was enough. Here lav needs to actually win kids over.
That is 100% false.
How so? Enlighten me.
Coach doesn't use an autopilot method of recruiting. If he did Obepka, Harrison, Sampson et al would not be on the roster.
More importantly it is a myth to suggest that his recruiting at UCLA was a product of UCLA rather then hard work and relationships. He knows how to recruit.
-
Maybe Jordan has told Lavin St. John's is No. 1, but he still wants to make sure he is making right decision, and Coach is giving him space. We really have no clue what is going on behind the scenes, and what appears to be happening may not actually tell the whole story.
That's my theory and I'm sticking to it until it's time not to.
-
All I've noticed is that a bunch of programs are a whole lot more visible in the recruiting wars than we are. If they don't avoid the exposure why do we? SJU just seems to be the least mentioned major program out there with no diamonds in the rough ever being mentioned. So here we are with nobody signed, questions at various positions and possible departures looming. Somehow not what I had in mind at this point.
-
All I've noticed is that a bunch of programs are a whole lot more visible in the recruiting wars than we are. If they don't avoid the exposure why do we? SJU just seems to be the least mentioned major program out there with no diamonds in the rough ever being mentioned. So here we are with nobody signed, questions at various positions and possible departures looming. Somehow not what I had in mind at this point.
poor guy....
-
biggest issue for me is that lavin's biggest perceived strength is recruiting and, by extension, the growth of the program is predicated upon the constant inflow of highest-level talent. i expected to land at least one of our four prime targets this year (still possible) and to be very well positioned to land some of the biggest fish in '14 and '15. i think it will be fine in the end - when we hit a similar recruiting low point last year, coach found a way to exceed expectations. it will be nice not to sweat out another recruiting season at some point in the future.
-
biggest issue for me is that lavin's biggest perceived strength is recruiting and, by extension, the growth of the program is predicated upon the constant inflow of highest-level talent. i expected to land at least one of our four prime targets this year (still possible) and to be very well positioned to land some of the biggest fish in '14 and '15. i think it will be fine in the end - when we hit a similar recruiting low point last year, coach found a way to exceed expectations. it will be nice not to sweat out another recruiting season at some point in the future.
Another poor guy? Quick, more Koolaid!
-
I just want a front court and some quickness at the point. The Sanchez crap and Gift red shirting somehow just didn't do it for me. We're obviously a few players away and it would be nice to have a little info. A lot of commitments going on.
-
biggest issue for me is that lavin's biggest perceived strength is recruiting and, by extension, the growth of the program is predicated upon the constant inflow of highest-level talent. i expected to land at least one of our four prime targets this year (still possible) and to be very well positioned to land some of the biggest fish in '14 and '15. i think it will be fine in the end - when we hit a similar recruiting low point last year, coach found a way to exceed expectations. it will be nice not to sweat out another recruiting season at some point in the future.
Another poor guy? Quick, more Koolaid!
we shouldn't be killed for being a little concerned with/confused by the direction at this point. is it not true that the biggest reason for optimism was exceptional recruiting and that we have whiffed so far in 2013 and appear to be falling behind for '14? like i said, i think it will be fine but i am no longer supremely confident...
-
I just want a front court and some quickness at the point. The Sanchez crap and Gift red shirting somehow just didn't do it for me. We're obviously a few players away and it would be nice to have a little info. A lot of commitments going on.
Lavin said when he was hired that he knew the honeymoon period wouldn't last forever. It seems like he started off brilliantly recruiting, but it hasn't manifested into post season births. Forget about why. The why doesn't matter. We're 15-10. You are what you're record is.
Adding Gift will help somewhat, and adding Hooper could help, but this team still isn't complete. They need a PG even if Branch develops into a good one because he is made of glass.
-
same guys were crying last year at the same time, then we got Sampson and Obekpa.
We have 1 scholarship to give for next year. Chances are we are going to whiff on a couple of recruits, no? Plus, Lavin already said he won't use it unless the right player is available. There is your info..
It's way to early to start complaining about '14 recruits already...
-
same guys were crying last year at the same time, then we got Sampson and Obekpa.
We have 1 scholarship to give for next year. Chances are we are going to whiff on a couple of recruits, no? Plus, Lavin already said he won't use it unless the right player is available. There is your info..
It's way to early to start complaining about '14 recruits already...
The reason there has to be 'some' concern about '14 is that the uncertainties of our roster makeup and who might leave could leave us with important holes to fill in '14. And we aren't even courtesy listed by many. Plus some targets have popped.
-
same guys were crying last year at the same time, then we got Sampson and Obekpa.
We have 1 scholarship to give for next year. Chances are we are going to whiff on a couple of recruits, no? Plus, Lavin already said he won't use it unless the right player is available. There is your info..
It's way to early to start complaining about '14 recruits already...
The reason there has to be 'some' concern about '14 is that the uncertainties of our roster makeup and who might leave could leave us with important holes to fill in '14. And we aren't even courtesy listed by many. Plus some targets have popped.
All true, not denying any of that. But to question what is going on "behind the scenes" when you have no idea what is going on "behind the scenes", is just looking to find negatives imo.
Still a long way to go. You never know about JC or transfers that may be available, plus a lot of kids may not be a high recruit now, but will blow up late in the game.
Maybe it's just me. I find it pointless to panic when it comes to recruiting, especially 1 1/2 years out.
-
same guys were crying last year at the same time, then we got Sampson and Obekpa.
We have 1 scholarship to give for next year. Chances are we are going to whiff on a couple of recruits, no? Plus, Lavin already said he won't use it unless the right player is available. There is your info..
It's way to early to start complaining about '14 recruits already...
The reason there has to be 'some' concern about '14 is that the uncertainties of our roster makeup and who might leave could leave us with important holes to fill in '14. And we aren't even courtesy listed by many. Plus some targets have popped.
All true, not denying any of that. But to question what is going on "behind the scenes" when you have no idea what is going on "behind the scenes", is just looking to find negatives imo.
Still a long way to go. You never know about JC or transfers that may be available, plus a lot of kids may not be a high recruit now, but will blow up late in the game.
Maybe it's just me. I find it pointless to panic when it comes to recruiting, especially 1 1/2 years out.
Agree there is behind the scenes element. However this day and age stuff comes out somehow eventually. Usually sooner rather than later. Or worst case you get 'mystery' recruits where at least insiders know something is being talked about.
Remember 85% is a safe number for how many kids pop by the early signing period. So that is just 9 months away. The summer is huge but would like to see some names sooner leak out. Only 2 of the Rivals Top 20 have popped to date. Unfortunately 1 is someone we thought we were in good with.
-
Interesting list; early but....
“@SteveJones_CJ: After Shaqquan Aaron pledge, U of L No. 2, UK No. 4, IU No. 15 in early ’14 rankings by @JerryMeyer247 http://shar.es/YQmyq (http://shar.es/YQmyq)”
-
All I've noticed is that a bunch of programs are a whole lot more visible in the recruiting wars than we are. If they don't avoid the exposure why do we? SJU just seems to be the least mentioned major program out there with no diamonds in the rough ever being mentioned. So here we are with nobody signed, questions at various positions and possible departures looming. Somehow not what I had in mind at this point.
We're here with no one signed because we currently have no rides to give. That MAY change in March/April.
-
All I've noticed is that a bunch of programs are a whole lot more visible in the recruiting wars than we are. If they don't avoid the exposure why do we? SJU just seems to be the least mentioned major program out there with no diamonds in the rough ever being mentioned. So here we are with nobody signed, questions at various positions and possible departures looming. Somehow not what I had in mind at this point.
We're here with no one signed because we currently have no rides to give. That MAY change in March/April.
Uhh yeah. And what leg would there be to stand on if Lawrence popped. We have Sanchez schollie and the chances of another in some way shape or form are pretty good.
-
All I've noticed is that a bunch of programs are a whole lot more visible in the recruiting wars than we are. If they don't avoid the exposure why do we? SJU just seems to be the least mentioned major program out there with no diamonds in the rough ever being mentioned. So here we are with nobody signed, questions at various positions and possible departures looming. Somehow not what I had in mind at this point.
We're here with no one signed because we currently have no rides to give. That MAY change in March/April.
Uhh yeah. And what leg would there be to stand on if Lawrence popped. We have Sanchez schollie and the chances of another in some way shape or form are pretty good.
Yep - go for the gusto and high value targets. Something will open up - it seems to 99% of the time.
-
All I've noticed is that a bunch of programs are a whole lot more visible in the recruiting wars than we are. If they don't avoid the exposure why do we? SJU just seems to be the least mentioned major program out there with no diamonds in the rough ever being mentioned. So here we are with nobody signed, questions at various positions and possible departures looming. Somehow not what I had in mind at this point.
We're here with no one signed because we currently have no rides to give. That MAY change in March/April.
Uhh yeah. And what leg would there be to stand on if Lawrence popped. We have Sanchez schollie and the chances of another in some way shape or form are pretty good.
Yep - go for the gusto and high value targets. Something will open up - it seems to 99% of the time.
Let's go back. When Coach missed last year combined with the decommitments of Gathers and Wood he had a lot of work to do just to put together a 2012 class. The energy it took to put together that size of a class put him slightly behind the 8 ball with 2013.
I surmise that is why he also pursued Jones late, because he figured that with Jones in the fold he had a roster essentially set for the next 2 years and someone like Jones could develop for a year and be ready to contribute in a major way by 2013 whereas saving that schollie meant potentially signing an under the radar kid for 2013 who would need a year to develop anyway and wouldn't be ready to contribute in a major way until 2014 which along with 2015 are the two classes under focus by the staff.
In other words stacking the roster with underclassmen allowed him some flexibility in terms of recruiting for 2013 a year in which he would not be in great position anyway because of the year off. So he targets just a handful of top kids for 2013 and figures if he lands 1, tremendous he has limited space as is anyway. But even in a worse case scenario he has a roster all but set for next year already with just about everyone back in addition to two kids becoming eligible.
From what I hear Jordan is still in the mix. And as I stated in a different thread there are always decommitments late from coaching changes..
-
Fordham- Please stop making sense and being rational. There is no place here for this type of nonsense. :)
-
“@ballin365dotcom: Rysheed Jordan with the RIDICULOUS inbound oop - Ballin365Mixtape: http://youtu.be/yWdwq3_qohE?a (http://youtu.be/yWdwq3_qohE?a) via @YouTube”
-
It seems like he started off brilliantly recruiting, but it hasn't manifested into post season births.
Hasn't manifested into post season berths? Did you expect a post season berth last year with a bunch of freshmen?
Adding Gift will help somewhat, and adding Hooper could help, but this team still isn't complete. They need a PG even if Branch develops into a good one because he is made of glass.
Made of glass? How did you arrive at that conclusion? Do you think he shouldn't have been injured after a 235 pound forward fell into his knee?
-
Poison - are you forgetting that he made the dance his first season here? He did that with one of his recruits and players that lost most of their games playing for the former staff.
This program is on the way up. No need to panic over the recruiting when there is a full house of young players.
-
“@ballin365dotcom: Rysheed Jordan with the RIDICULOUS inbound oop - Ballin365Mixtape: http://youtu.be/yWdwq3_qohE?a (http://youtu.be/yWdwq3_qohE?a) via @YouTube”
didn't know he was that much of a riser. He got up high to get that one.
thanks for the up paultz
-
“@ballin365dotcom: Rysheed Jordan with the RIDICULOUS inbound oop - Ballin365Mixtape: http://youtu.be/yWdwq3_qohE?a (http://youtu.be/yWdwq3_qohE?a) via @YouTube”
didn't know he was that much of a riser. He got up high to get that one.
thanks for the up paultz
elite athlete.
-
Kid is having a heck of a post-season:
http://articles.philly.com/2013-02-18/sports/37162369_1_roberts-vaux-high-gulp-jordan (http://articles.philly.com/2013-02-18/sports/37162369_1_roberts-vaux-high-gulp-jordan)
-
is the prevailing thought still that he is unlikely to come here if d'angelo stays?
-
Looking at our current roster there are several possible departures and only Hooper and GG coming in. I don't know how Lavin navigates such a volatile situation but I'm sure slots would emerge if recruits did. Either way I don't see a lot of improvement on the horizon w/o some changes yet to be named.
-
Looking at our current roster there are several possible departures and only Hooper and GG coming in. I don't know how Lavin navigates such a volatile situation but I'm sure slots would emerge if recruits did. Either way I don't see a lot of improvement on the horizon w/o some changes yet to be named.
That's your speculation.
You are using your own speculation to come up with your own scenarios to then criticize Coach for not doing enough to sastisfy your own scenarios.
How convenient.
-
Speculation of people leaving:
Jakkar to the NBA? I would give 10-20%
Harrison. 0-5%
Who else would leave? Jones is the only one who really gets little to no run.
Felix gets 10 minutes a game.
Borgault has come on lately.
Dom, Phil, CO, Amir all get great playing time. Who would leave?
-
Speculation of people leaving:
Jakkar to the NBA? I would give 10-20%
Harrison. 0-5%
Who else would leave? Jones is the only one who really gets little to no run.
Felix gets 10 minutes a game.
Borgault has come on lately.
Dom, Phil, CO, Amir all get great playing time. Who would leave?
Amir's time has diminished considerably recently.
-
Speculation of people leaving:
Jakkar to the NBA? I would give 10-20%
Harrison. 0-5%
Who else would leave? Jones is the only one who really gets little to no run.
Felix gets 10 minutes a game.
Borgault has come on lately.
Dom, Phil, CO, Amir all get great playing time. Who would leave?
I agree. The talk on this board of kids leaving is way overblown. Jakarr is the only one I'm really worried about and I think the odds you put on his chances of leaving are spot on. Although Amir and his baseball career could be a problem. The only reason people are saying Harrison could leave is that 2 years ago he may have told somebody on campus he'd only be here 2 years.
Another possibility would be a transfer by a player who doesn't get enough playing time (Bourgault, Felix, Jones), but I don't think that would hurt us too much.
We most likely will have the same team next year with hopefully Rysheed Jordan or another big man.
-
Had a chance to see Jordan play recently for the first time recently(was actually there for another kid) and he is really really good. I mean REALLY good...Spoke with some of his people(and yea hes got plenty of people) one of who I know and if he knows where hes going their hiding it really well. Mentioned location of Temple as a big plus, they like Dumph's style of play but worry about where are the NBA Temple players and that they are not a, and I quote"limelight" school. He loves Lav and Tony. LOVES. But apparently wants to attack the rim more and is concerned about their high dribble hand off motion offense...Harrison status is totally irrelevant. UCLA has everything he wants accept location and Howlands uncertaininty. None of this is ground breaking news except I really did get the feeling this kid as of yet hasnt made up his mind...and although I never asked nor did it come up i am not sure its outlandish to specualte he might be waiting for a different offer that is more enticing to him....
-
Had a chance to see Jordan play recently for the first time recently(was actually there for another kid) and he is really really good. I mean REALLY good...Spoke with some of his people(and yea hes got plenty of people) one of who I know and if he knows where hes going their hiding it really well. Mentioned location of Temple as a big plus, they like Dumph's style of play but worry about where are the NBA Temple players and that they are not a, and I quote"limelight" school. He loves Lav and Tony. LOVES. But apparently wants to attack the rim more and is concerned about their high dribble hand off motion offense...Harrison status is totally irrelevant. UCLA has everything he wants accept location and Howlands uncertaininty. None of this is ground breaking news except I really did get the feeling this kid as of yet hasnt made up his mind...and although I never asked nor did it come up i am not sure its outlandish to specualte he might be waiting for a different offer that is more enticing to him....
I hope our high dribble offense is a product of our personnel and not lavs only philosophy. Thanks for the info 79
-
Had a chance to see Jordan play recently for the first time recently(was actually there for another kid) and he is really really good. I mean REALLY good...Spoke with some of his people(and yea hes got plenty of people) one of who I know and if he knows where hes going their hiding it really well. Mentioned location of Temple as a big plus, they like Dumph's style of play but worry about where are the NBA Temple players and that they are not a, and I quote"limelight" school. He loves Lav and Tony. LOVES. But apparently wants to attack the rim more and is concerned about their high dribble hand off motion offense...Harrison status is totally irrelevant. UCLA has everything he wants accept location and Howlands uncertaininty. None of this is ground breaking news except I really did get the feeling this kid as of yet hasnt made up his mind...and although I never asked nor did it come up i am not sure its outlandish to specualte he might be waiting for a different offer that is more enticing to him....
I hope our high dribble offense is a product of our personnel and not lavs only philosophy. Thanks for the info 79
i actually think it's a philosophy thing. especially since Lav is big on not turning the ball over. keeping it away from the paint helps.
-
Had a chance to see Jordan play recently for the first time recently(was actually there for another kid) and he is really really good. I mean REALLY good...Spoke with some of his people(and yea hes got plenty of people) one of who I know and if he knows where hes going their hiding it really well. Mentioned location of Temple as a big plus, they like Dumph's style of play but worry about where are the NBA Temple players and that they are not a, and I quote"limelight" school. He loves Lav and Tony. LOVES. But apparently wants to attack the rim more and is concerned about their high dribble hand off motion offense...Harrison status is totally irrelevant. UCLA has everything he wants accept location and Howlands uncertaininty. None of this is ground breaking news except I really did get the feeling this kid as of yet hasnt made up his mind...and although I never asked nor did it come up i am not sure its outlandish to specualte he might be waiting for a different offer that is more enticing to him....
I hope our high dribble offense is a product of our personnel and not lavs only philosophy. Thanks for the info 79
i actually think it's a philosophy thing. especially since Lav is big on not turning the ball over. keeping it away from the paint helps.
Not very hard to defend or prepare for.
-
No idea his theory behind it but its not condusive to attracting attacking the rim type pg's
-
No idea his theory behind it but its not condusive to attracting attacking the rim type pg's
baron davis?
-
No idea his theory behind it but its not condusive to attracting attacking the rim type pg's
makes it more obvious why Lindsey left(?)
-
No idea his theory behind it but its not condusive to attracting attacking the rim type pg's
baron davis?
Maybe CR and his library of knowledge can fill us in and let us know if he ran something similar at UCLA back in the day.
-
No idea his theory behind it but its not condusive to attracting attacking the rim type pg's
makes it more obvious why Lindsey left(?)
I think Nuri left because he thought he was better than he actually is. He's averaging 8.5 at Rider.
Since Lavin has been here, we haven't had a big, penetrating PG. I would hold off on saying that his "philosophy" is against it. I think it's more the fact that we lack a player capable of running that type of offense.
-
Guess I should have clarified I have no idea if Lav would alter his philosophy nor am I being critical of it....simply making a factual observation
-
It is odd that under Jarvis, we had Erick Barkley [actually recruited by Fran], then Omar [one-and-done] and then Marcus, who was actually a 2 playing point. Then under Norm we had Geno and Malik, two NYC PGs who were mid-major starters or high major off the bench types. Lavin gives the ball to Hardy, taking a page from Jarvis giving Hattan the rock. Last year was point by committee with PGIV, D'Lo and the two quitters Lindsey and Stith.
For a school that claims to be NYC's team...for a City that claims to be the breeding ground of point guards...St John's hasn't had a legitimate D1/NBA caliber point guard in over ten years. Why is it so difficult?
-
He built his team on being able to run up and down the floor and attack. That's what he recruited his players into. When you play that way and get these kinds of athletes you are GOING to have turnovers, but I don't understand why anyone would tighten the reigns on kids like Rysheed Jordan or Jamal Branch who are so good at getting to the rim and obviously (as shown by results) we're a more successful team when Branch can control the offense. We're not good enough at executing in the half court to be able to tighten the reigns and slow things down. Running false motion is what sets us into offensive lulls. Gotta give trust to Branch/Harrison (and Jordan if he were to come in) to play into the teams identity (which will naturally lead to some more turnovers but also more wins.
-
I don't think it's our scheme at is getting us into lulls. What is getting us into lulls is our lack of a post scorer, some more shooting on the perimeter and our best PG currently in Branch sitting injured. Green doesn't run the offense well. Frm everything I've read, the false motion offense is not the easiest to learn and requires some discipline to run. Our seniors were able to pick it up very well 2 years ago. This team isn't quite as savy yet.
With that said, ALL teams need to run half-court offense when the break is stopped. I don't think our problems would be fixed by going to a flex offense, or anything else. Still comes down to players executing. It is not our half court style that is inhibiting anybody. Phil Greene is getting plenty of looks. He's getting opportunities to attack the hoop.
We are missing somebody to score inside which allows defenses to, well... not guard the interior. It takes away some of our game. Phil isn't a great facilitator either.
Getting off point too much, but our offense still is designed to push the ball up court at every opportunity, but not to be reckless about it. I don't see why it would inhibit a Pg like Rysheed from coming here. What we are missing is a guy like Rysheed and one post scorer.
-
is the prevailing thought still that he is unlikely to come here if d'angelo stays?
I would think Branch would be more of an issue than D'Lo. But seriously, if any player has thoughts about playing in the league, then they shouldn't be concerned about competing for minutes at the college level. If you can't beat out the teams current player at your position, then either come off the bench until you can, or re-evaluate your pro-prospects.
-
I don't love our offense by any means - but I actually think its an awesome offense if you're a guard who can penetrate. Jordan would light it up under Lavin.
All we do is run pick and rolls at the top, if you're a guy who can get around that pick and drive hard... you'll score all day.
Our problem has been we haven't had a ball handler quick enough who can do that, or split the trap when defenses bring that. But this offense has virtually no post up plays or set 3pt plays. It's all about the ball handler and a teammate playing pick n roll.
The only thing that would bother me if I'm a pg is that we spin a wheel every time we run the weave. And half the time the ball ends up in the hands of a guy other than the pg. so that would annoy me if I'm used to running the show. But otherwise this offense is ready made for guys who can take it to the rack.
-
is the prevailing thought still that he is unlikely to come here if d'angelo stays?
I would think Branch would be more of an issue than D'Lo. But seriously, if any player has thoughts about playing in the league, then they shouldn't be concerned about competing for minutes at the college level. If you can't beat out the teams current player at your position, then either come off the bench until you can, or re-evaluate your pro-prospects.
That's just silly. How can you fault a player for, all things being equal, wanting to play right away?
If I'm a high school senior this year who's a qb I'm surely not signing with Texas AM or I'm guaranteed to sit on the bench for the next two years.
I wouldn't hold it against a kid if that was one of his reasons for picking a school. Seems pretty rationale to me.
-
I don't love our offense by any means - but I actually think its an awesome offense if you're a guard who can penetrate. Jordan would light it up under Lavin.
All we do is run pick and rolls at the top, if you're a guy who can get around that pick and drive hard... you'll score all day.
Our problem has been we haven't had a ball handler quick enough who can do that, or split the trap when defenses bring that. But this offense has virtually no post up plays or set 3pt plays. It's all about the ball handler and a teammate playing pick n roll.
The only thing that would bother me if I'm a pg is that we spin a wheel every time we run the weave. And half the time the ball ends up in the hands of a guy other than the pg. so that would annoy me if I'm used to running the show. But otherwise this offense is ready made for guys who can take it to the rack.
I thought guys not getting to the rim because we can't shoot. How our guys getting to rim if other guys packing it in? Whoever puts it on floor driving into traffic. Harrison not getting there, Phil goes halfway, and Branch does ok because he got that little pull up action going. If we had a Rose, or Wall, those types don't take no for an answer. Do we ever get the other guys to spread out? It helps that JaKarr can hit that 15 footer. Dom hits one of those once in a while too. Otherwise it's bombs away. I was hoping Amir would have gotten some baseline stuff going. If I remember right, Moe had some baseline stuff go in, and when guys jumped out, he was able to drive baseline. Anyway, we are putting up some points, but everything seems hard if we don't get run outs.
-
Both Phil and Dlo have decent mid range games but they keep hoisting up 3s. Our Frontcourt needs help as it is and more penetration for boards. I sure hope Lavin has someone big in his sites.
-
Both Phil and Dlo have decent mid range games but they keep hoisting up 3s. Our Frontcourt needs help as it is and more penetration for boards. I sure hope Lavin has someone big in his sites.
I do to. Because if he doesn't he is either going to be fired or he is going to get a 10 year extension.
I can never keep that stuff straight.
But I know for a fact he reads this board and recruits kids based soley on your expertise and comments.
-
No idea his theory behind it but its not condusive to attracting attacking the rim type pg's
baron davis?
Maybe CR and his library of knowledge can fill us in and let us know if he ran something similar at UCLA back in the day.
Lav's UCLA Pgs - the first was Cameron Dollar - Cam DID attack the rim, but never finished - seemed like he ALWAYS passed out of penetration - of course, the offense had Charles O'Bannon, Toby Bailey and JR Henderson as attackers waiting for those passes - so the offense did get to the Elite 8. Cam, however, was injured quite a bit that year. His backup was starting SF Toby Bailey, who actually played the most at the 1. when Toby was at the point, yes, attack and finish at the rim. But Toby was also effective in the set offense as well - he led the Bruins with 155 assists (4.8 a game) that year (very underappriciated kid - finished at UCLA as #4 all time scorer, #6 all time assists, #8 Steals, #14 rebs).
The next PG was Baron Davis - sort of. Lav's ran essentially a double PG - as Baron and fellow 1998 frosh Earl Watson started from Day 1. Baron was unstoppable attacking the rim (remember, you likely never saw him at his best - that frosh season ended with a torn ACL, and he was NEVER the same player again) - But Earl was, if anything, stronger. Believe it or not, Earl was a pt FORWARD in high school. Made his living either dishing (9 assists as a hs senior) or banging underneath (14 rebs a game!). After Baron left, Earl became more of a feeding point than an attacking post - he had Dan Gadzuric, Jerome Moisio (lotto to Boston), JaRon Rush (best of the 3 Rush brothers - alcohol ended his career), Jason Kapono, and Matt Barnes to dish to. That continued with Lav's final PG - 6'5 Ced Bozeman. Boze had an injury plagued Bruin career - 7 surgeries in 5 years, including a knee surgery DURING his frosh year, an ACL after his Junior year, plus off-season hip and shoulder surgeries. He never really attacked the rim after his first 5 games as a frosh - that's when he went out for surgery. He had a healthy Junior year - and led the Pac 10 in assissts for Ben Howland's first Bruin team, then tore the ACL. He sat out a year, and Jordan Farmar took over the PG spot. When he came back, instead of b!tching, Ced asked what can I do to help the team. He was the starting small forward on the 2006 Bruin team that lost to Florida in the National Championship. He went on to set the D-League record for assists in a game (24), got called up to Atlanat, started 5 games before another injury. He's had a nice overseas career for the last 7 years or so. He came back to play in the D-Leauge a couple years ago - put up 18 pts and 9 assists a game. When he's done playing, I expect he'll be a solid coach someday.
Don't know if that answers the question. Lav's DOES go with what works with his talent on hand. It's one of the reasons he plays so many combinations and weird substitution patterns in the 1st half of a season. He seems to need to see players in game action more so than practice situations. It's a "drawback" you have to accept with Lavin as your coach. Players can earn PT in practice, but d@mn well better produce in games to keep it.
-
cr - would Coach Lavin ever consider recruiting a 5'11" PG again? If so, Will Ferguson could have been a target for this 2013 class in case Rysheed doesn't pan out. Has a really good handle, solid passer/vision, and not afraid to take any type of shot, particularly good on little floating pull ups from 12-8 feet. I watched him in person twice, and I think Huggy will have a steal if he chooses WVU.
-
cr - would Coach Lavin ever consider recruiting a 5'11" PG again? If so, Will Ferguson could have been a target for this 2013 class in case Rysheed doesn't pan out. Has a really good handle, solid passer/vision, and not afraid to take any type of shot, particularly good on little floating pull ups from 12-8 feet. I watched him in person twice, and I think Huggy will have a steal if he chooses WVU.
? ? ? My understanding is we're recruiting 5'10 Emmanuel Owootoah right now (2014 who reclassified to 2013 last month).. And Parker Jackson-Cartwright is 5'9 - hes a target in the following year's class. Steve's final PG recruit at UCLA - recruit, not signee was Aaron Brooks (kid had 2 hats on the table at his signing presser, picked up the Oregon cap, left the UCLA one). As a High School senior Brooks was 5'10 (pretty sure they list him at 6'0 now - not sure he IS tho!).
But...if it's a choice between an equally talented 6'2 or taller PG and a 6'0 or shorter, Steve is likely to concentrate on the bigger kid.
-
Word out of Philly is Jordan is stringing all these coaches along a bit. It should be interesting who's patience will outlast for Jordan or who pulls out.
I for one have a strong love/hate for Jordan. On one hand his physical tools give him the potential to be something very special and you can't teach that but on the other hand he's such a knuckle head and I don't know if he's ever going to mature past being a knuckle head.
-
Word out of Philly is Jordan is stringing all these coaches along a bit. It should be interesting who's patience will outlast for Jordan or who pulls out.
I for one have a strong love/hate for Jordan. On one hand his physical tools give him the potential to be something very special and you can't teach that but on the other hand he's such a knuckle head and I don't know if he's ever going to mature past being a knuckle head.
I had a feeling about your 2nd paragraph.
-
Word out of Philly is Jordan is stringing all these coaches along a bit. It should be interesting who's patience will outlast for Jordan or who pulls out.
I for one have a strong love/hate for Jordan. On one hand his physical tools give him the potential to be something very special and you can't teach that but on the other hand he's such a knuckle head and I don't know if he's ever going to mature past being a knuckle head.
Hard to say. Not sure what he's waiting on if he's down to 3. His tweets make him certainly come across as a knucklehead. I think/know that Lavin is as patient as can be, and it paid off for Obekpa but might not pay off in all cases. All depends if we have somebody else worth grabbing instead. Do we? I don't know. Doesn't seem so. Is Severe that guy? A scoring PF I don't know about? Too bad because Jordan is such a talented kid. Hopefully just misunderstood like D'Lo.
-
Word out of Philly is Jordan is stringing all these coaches along a bit. It should be interesting who's patience will outlast for Jordan or who pulls out.
I for one have a strong love/hate for Jordan. On one hand his physical tools give him the potential to be something very special and you can't teach that but on the other hand he's such a knuckle head and I don't know if he's ever going to mature past being a knuckle head.
If that is the case i wonder.if he and dee could coexist.
-
Word out of Philly is Jordan is stringing all these coaches along a bit. It should be interesting who's patience will outlast for Jordan or who pulls out.
I for one have a strong love/hate for Jordan. On one hand his physical tools give him the potential to be something very special and you can't teach that but on the other hand he's such a knuckle head and I don't know if he's ever going to mature past being a knuckle head.
If that is the case i wonder.if he and dee could coexist.
He seems like a good teammate though but then again he is better than all of them.
-
Word out of Philly is Jordan is stringing all these coaches along a bit. It should be interesting who's patience will outlast for Jordan or who pulls out.
I for one have a strong love/hate for Jordan. On one hand his physical tools give him the potential to be something very special and you can't teach that but on the other hand he's such a knuckle head and I don't know if he's ever going to mature past being a knuckle head.
If that is the case i wonder.if he and dee could coexist.
He seems like a good teammate though but then again he is better than all of them.
I think Rysheed and D'Lo would be unstoppable together on the court frankly. Both would get plenty of scoring opportunities. Not a worry. Plus Rysheed would create more open space and better shots for D'Lo because teams would really need to prep for his dribble penetration. Siva and Russ smith works, and Russ smith makes D'Lo look like the poster-boy for controlled behavior. Now if we could only find a Behanan as well...
-
I noted last week that he could open up recruiting. Dave references that as well. We'll see.
-
I noted last week that he could open up recruiting. Dave references that as well. We'll see.
I said that this past summer/fall that it seemed as though he wanted to pick a school but the people around him thought he should have an offer from a "bigger" school. Not sure what school that is, but impression I got was that his entourage was pushing him to petition for a bigger offer of some type. Well it's almost March already. Hope he figures it out soon.
-
I noted last week that he could open up recruiting. Dave references that as well. We'll see.
It's a little late in the game for that but I would worry about Nova entering the picture. I think the kid just loves the attention of being the best uncommitted player at this point.
-
I noted last week that he could open up recruiting. Dave references that as well. We'll see.
It's a little late in the game for that but I would worry about Nova entering the picture. I think the kid just loves the attention of being the best uncommitted player at this point.
That he does!
-
is the prevailing thought still that he is unlikely to come here if d'angelo stays?
I would think Branch would be more of an issue than D'Lo. But seriously, if any player has thoughts about playing in the league, then they shouldn't be concerned about competing for minutes at the college level. If you can't beat out the teams current player at your position, then either come off the bench until you can, or re-evaluate your pro-prospects.
That's just silly. How can you fault a player for, all things being equal, wanting to play right away?
If I'm a high school senior this year who's a qb I'm surely not signing with Texas AM or I'm guaranteed to sit on the bench for the next two years.
I wouldn't hold it against a kid if that was one of his reasons for picking a school. Seems pretty rationale to me.
Your point makes sense in theory, and that would be understandable, but its not an accurate comparison. Last I looked, we didn't have the number one overall draft pick running point. If he's the goods, he will surely get minutes from day one. He is not going to be riding the bench for two years, but he shouldn't be scared off with the notion that he will have to earn his playing time. If your that good, which he is, getting playing time wouldn't be an issue.
-
“@EvanDanielsFOX: Rysheed Jordan is down to St. John's Temple & UCLA. Plans to decide in April ($) ... http://scouthoops.scout.com/2/1268461.html (http://scouthoops.scout.com/2/1268461.html)”
-
“@EvanDanielsFOX: Rysheed Jordan is down to St. John's Temple & UCLA. Plans to decide in April ($) ... http://scouthoops.scout.com/2/1268461.html (http://scouthoops.scout.com/2/1268461.html)”
Nothing new but this quote by Yard was interesting:
“He’s going to wait and see what is going on with the coaching situation,” Yard added.
I assume he means Howland because of the 3 he is the only one even remotely in doubt and assuming UCLA safely makes the NCAA my guess is he is coming back next year as well.
-
Sorry if this has already been asked but CRgreen, how many scholarships does UCLA have available?
-
Sorry if this has already been asked but CRgreen, how many scholarships does UCLA have available?
A lot. They are down to like 8 scholarship players plus if Bazz and/or others leave
-
“@EvanDanielsFOX: Rysheed Jordan is down to St. John's Temple & UCLA. Plans to decide in April ($) ... http://scouthoops.scout.com/2/1268461.html (http://scouthoops.scout.com/2/1268461.html)”
I have always believed Jordan was a more important land than JL, especially since I don't believe JS is a one and done player, and the importance of the point guard position. We need to put the full court press on this kid. The entire staff should be at his game tonight.
-
Sorry if this has already been asked but CRgreen, how many scholarships does UCLA have available?
A lot. They are down to like 8 scholarship players plus if Bazz and/or others leave
It is why they are going hard after Owootoah.
-
Lavin and staff down in Philly tonight. UCLA also represented. Temple has a game.
Tim McManus@ByTimMcManus
St. John's coaching staff courtside at Southern to watch Vaux's Rysheed Jordan. Main event next: Vaux vs. MLK in 2nd Publix semi.
-
Lavin and staff down in Philly tonight. UCLA also represented. Temple has a game.
Tim McManus@ByTimMcManus
St. John's coaching staff courtside at Southern to watch Vaux's Rysheed Jordan. Main event next: Vaux vs. MLK in 2nd Publix semi.
Great! Also;
“@ByTimMcManus: UCLA also represented here to watch Rysheed Jordan. Temple a little busy tonight, I hear.”
-
“@EvanDanielsFOX: Rysheed Jordan is down to St. John's Temple & UCLA. Plans to decide in April ($) ... http://scouthoops.scout.com/2/1268461.html (http://scouthoops.scout.com/2/1268461.html)”
I have always believed Jordan was a more important land than JL, especially since I don't believe JS is a one and done player, and the importance of the point guard position. We need to put the full court press on this kid. The entire staff should be at his game tonight.
No question. We need a guard that can penetrate and JL, as talented as he is, is not a power big and he's not going to be better than JS with a year of Big East ball and another a 5th year in the NESPSAC.
-
“@ByTimMcManus: Final: Vaux 71, MLK 68 in a wild OT. 28 for Jordan, including 2 FTs with 6.2 ledt to seal it.”
-
Rysheed is facing an interesting decision:
Temple is currently 18-8 and 7-5 in the A-10. Temple's RPI is .5913 with a SOS of .5624. In my opinion, those stats are slightly better than the Red Storm.
Temple's current team has 5 seniors: Points per game: Wyatt 19.7, Randall 11.0, Jefferson 9.0, O'Brien 8.5 and DiLeo 2.5. That's a lot of scoring to lose, but of course that creates opportunity. I have no idea how good their incoming class is, but it would appear Temple fans are in for a rough 2013-14 year.
As far a guards go, this year's team has 5 players listed as guards: Wyatt, DiLeo should be gone next year. Next Year's Temple team will be lead by Sophomore/Junior Will Cummings, who has started 26 games at guard and averages 5.7 ppg. He will be backed up by Dalton Pepper (3.0), Quenton DeCosey (2.2), and Daniel Dingle (0.8) (also plays forward).
If Rysheed likes to win, then Temple may not offer that for a few years. If he wants minutes, then Temple offers opportunity.
-
“@ByTimMcManus: Final: Vaux 71, MLK 68 in a wild OT. 28 for Jordan, including 2 FTs with 6.2 ledt to seal it.”
Here is the article:
http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/high_school/pennsylvania/20130221_Vaux_outlasts_King_in_overtime.html (http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/high_school/pennsylvania/20130221_Vaux_outlasts_King_in_overtime.html)
Most conspicuously, St. John's coach Steve Lavin sat in a folding chair catty-corner to the baseline. A few feet behind him, a man stood in a UCLA shirt.
There was no secret whom they all came to see. And Rysheed Jordan gave them what they wanted.
-
“@ByTimMcManus: Final: Vaux 71, MLK 68 in a wild OT. 28 for Jordan, including 2 FTs with 6.2 ledt to seal it.”
Here is the article:
http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/high_school/pennsylvania/20130221_Vaux_outlasts_King_in_overtime.html (http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/high_school/pennsylvania/20130221_Vaux_outlasts_King_in_overtime.html)
Most conspicuously, St. John's coach Steve Lavin sat in a folding chair catty-corner to the baseline. A few feet behind him, a man stood in a UCLA shirt.
There was no secret whom they all came to see. And Rysheed Jordan gave them what they wanted.
I wonder which UCLA assistant made the trip?
Nie that Coach Lavin made it out to Philadelphia to see Rysheed.
-
Temple already has a commitment from Josh Brown who I like more than Rysheed. Plays harder, better defensively, and fits Temple's style. Also for everyone crowing Jordan the next PG, I hate to break it to you but he is as combo guard as they come. He's like a young Larry Hughes.
-
Temple already has a commitment from Josh Brown who I like more than Rysheed. Plays harder, better defensively, and fits Temple's style. Also for everyone crowing Jordan the next PG, I hate to break it to you but he is as combo guard as they come. He's like a young Larry Hughes.
We need play makers. He fits the bill. Lavin has a lot of experience with players like Rysheed. This staff could get him to the NBA.
-
Note Lavin texting Chilleb to tell him to forget Jon Severe. Last night's game;
“@JaimeBoyer: Watch Rysheed Jordan @sheedjordan dominate Public League Semis Rysheed Jordan dominates Public League Semis (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0VdmurYyDw#ws) @HWHoopsCentral @Ballislife @YAYAREASFINEST @MeekMill”
-
Temple already has a commitment from Josh Brown who I like more than Rysheed. Plays harder, better defensively, and fits Temple's style. Also for everyone crowing Jordan the next PG, I hate to break it to you but he is as combo guard as they come. He's like a young Larry Hughes.
If he's a young Larry Hughes he should be phenomenal --- he's not nearly as tall as Larry though, is he?
-
Eric Bossi talked to Rivals.com UCLA site breaking down Jordan:
http://ucla.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1475406 (http://ucla.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1475406)
-
Temple already has a commitment from Josh Brown who I like more than Rysheed. Plays harder, better defensively, and fits Temple's style. Also for everyone crowing Jordan the next PG, I hate to break it to you but he is as combo guard as they come. He's like a young Larry Hughes.
If he's a young Larry Hughes he should be phenomenal --- he's not nearly as tall as Larry though, is he?
Hughes is listed at 6'5, Jordan 6'3/6'4
-
Hughes was a beast in his one and only season of college ball. 20ppg, 5 reb, 3 ass. 2 steals and led St. Louis to the second round of the NCAAs...sign me up.
-
Temple already has a commitment from Josh Brown who I like more than Rysheed. Plays harder, better defensively, and fits Temple's style. Also for everyone crowing Jordan the next PG, I hate to break it to you but he is as combo guard as they come. He's like a young Larry Hughes.
I normally hate comparisons but I think thats actually a pretty good one although I do disagree about the PG comment
-
Temple already has a commitment from Josh Brown who I like more than Rysheed. Plays harder, better defensively, and fits Temple's style. Also for everyone crowing Jordan the next PG, I hate to break it to you but he is as combo guard as they come. He's like a young Larry Hughes.
I think more than a PG, we need a guy who can penetrate and create offense. I think Jordan can do that.
-
whoever created this video wanted people to know Lavin was in attendance:
Rysheed Jordan dominates Public League Semis (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0VdmurYyDw#ws)
-
"Jordan is the Red Storm's remaining recruiting target with the scholarship they have; if Steve Lavin doesn't land Jordan, the expectation is that the staff will turn their eyes towards talent in the 2014 class like Khadeen Carrington of Bishop Loughlin and others. There is the possibility of transfers from the St. John's program."
“@ECoastBias: Rysheed Jordan Philadelphia Public League highlight video/ recruiting update http://sbn.to/Yigva8 (http://sbn.to/Yigva8)”
-
I don't mind that he's a combo. He's a bonafide scorer that can take it to the rim and also dish and shoot. We still have Branch and Phil G. Rysheed can do a lot on the court. Kid has talent. He'd create mismatches for us against other teams which we need. There isn't a guy on the board right now that is a "pure pg" type. Good to see Lavin there.
-
I thought Foad/Fun made a perspicacious observation on another thread that bears on Lavin's pursuit of Jordan. Based on Lavin's known recruiting targets at SJU thus far, he doesn't seem that interested in recruiting a pure PG, but rather seems to go after the combo guards (D'Lo, Branch, P Greene) or K. Anderson as a point forward. Jordan can score, plain and simple, and we need scoring options. He would be a great get, IMO.
-
I don't mind that he's a combo. He's a bonafide scorer that can take it to the rim and also dish and shoot. We still have Branch and Phil G. Rysheed can do a lot on the court. Kid has talent. He'd create mismatches for us against other teams which we need. There isn't a guy on the board right now that is a "pure pg" type. Good to see Lavin there.
Phil G. = 20min per game for Rysheed in freshmen yr.
-
I don't mind that he's a combo. He's a bonafide scorer that can take it to the rim and also dish and shoot. We still have Branch and Phil G. Rysheed can do a lot on the court. Kid has talent. He'd create mismatches for us against other teams which we need. There isn't a guy on the board right now that is a "pure pg" type. Good to see Lavin there.
Phil G. = 20min per game for Rysheed in freshmen yr.
The idea of this lineup has me salivating:
Obekpa
Sampson
Dom
D'lo
Rysheed
Branch first guy off the bench.
This of course assumes everyone is back, which I'm confident they will be. The beauty of that lineup is that there are plenty of scoring options but then we also have some serious defenders in there as well.
Really hope we get this kid.
-
Temple already has a commitment from Josh Brown who I like more than Rysheed. Plays harder, better defensively, and fits Temple's style. Also for everyone crowing Jordan the next PG, I hate to break it to you but he is as combo guard as they come. He's like a young Larry Hughes.
If he's a young Larry Hughes he should be phenomenal --- he's not nearly as tall as Larry though, is he?
Hughes is listed at 6'5, Jordan 6'3/6'4
Thought Hughes was more 6'5/6'6, and Jordan more 6'2/6'3 but whatever.
-
Temple already has a commitment from Josh Brown who I like more than Rysheed. Plays harder, better defensively, and fits Temple's style. Also for everyone crowing Jordan the next PG, I hate to break it to you but he is as combo guard as they come. He's like a young Larry Hughes.
If he's a young Larry Hughes he should be phenomenal --- he's not nearly as tall as Larry though, is he?
Hughes is listed at 6'5, Jordan 6'3/6'4
Thought Hughes was more 6'5/6'6, and Jordan more 6'2/6'3 but whatever.
Could be thinking of someone else, but I thought I read a tweet a little while ago that said he's at least 6'4 now.
-
Temple already has a commitment from Josh Brown who I like more than Rysheed. Plays harder, better defensively, and fits Temple's style. Also for everyone crowing Jordan the next PG, I hate to break it to you but he is as combo guard as they come. He's like a young Larry Hughes.
If he's a young Larry Hughes he should be phenomenal --- he's not nearly as tall as Larry though, is he?
Hughes is listed at 6'5, Jordan 6'3/6'4
Thought Hughes was more 6'5/6'6, and Jordan more 6'2/6'3 but whatever.
Maybe we can get a picture of them together and then Moose can give us a definitive answer. :)
-
Temple already has a commitment from Josh Brown who I like more than Rysheed. Plays harder, better defensively, and fits Temple's style. Also for everyone crowing Jordan the next PG, I hate to break it to you but he is as combo guard as they come. He's like a young Larry Hughes.
If he's a young Larry Hughes he should be phenomenal --- he's not nearly as tall as Larry though, is he?
Hughes is listed at 6'5, Jordan 6'3/6'4
Thought Hughes was more 6'5/6'6, and Jordan more 6'2/6'3 but whatever.
He is now being listed at 6'4" and one of the sites has 6'5"
-
I don't mind that he's a combo. He's a bonafide scorer that can take it to the rim and also dish and shoot. We still have Branch and Phil G. Rysheed can do a lot on the court. Kid has talent. He'd create mismatches for us against other teams which we need. There isn't a guy on the board right now that is a "pure pg" type. Good to see Lavin there.
Phil G. = 20min per game for Rysheed in freshmen yr.
The idea of this lineup has me salivating:
Obekpa
Sampson
Dom
D'lo
Rysheed
Branch first guy off the bench.
This of course assumes everyone is back, which I'm confident they will be. The beauty of that lineup is that there are plenty of scoring options but then we also have some serious defenders in there as well.
Really hope we get this kid.
You think Rysheed would/should get the nod over Branch? I can see Rysheed being the first off the bench playing the 1, 2, and 3. Plenty of minutes to go around.
-
I don't mind that he's a combo. He's a bonafide scorer that can take it to the rim and also dish and shoot. We still have Branch and Phil G. Rysheed can do a lot on the court. Kid has talent. He'd create mismatches for us against other teams which we need. There isn't a guy on the board right now that is a "pure pg" type. Good to see Lavin there.
Phil G. = 20min per game for Rysheed in freshmen yr.
The idea of this lineup has me salivating:
Obekpa
Sampson
Dom
D'lo
Rysheed
Branch first guy off the bench.
This of course assumes everyone is back, which I'm confident they will be. The beauty of that lineup is that there are plenty of scoring options but then we also have some serious defenders in there as well.
Really hope we get this kid.
You think Rysheed would/should get the nod over Branch? I can see Rysheed being the first off the bench playing the 1, 2, and 3. Plenty of minutes to go around.
Probably not to start the season. But if he plays like the #22 recruit, I think he would eventually take the job. But, I think if he were to pick us, Lavin would experiment with a lineup that had Branch, D'lo, and Rysheed on the court together.
-
I don't mind that he's a combo. He's a bonafide scorer that can take it to the rim and also dish and shoot. We still have Branch and Phil G. Rysheed can do a lot on the court. Kid has talent. He'd create mismatches for us against other teams which we need. There isn't a guy on the board right now that is a "pure pg" type. Good to see Lavin there.
Phil G. = 20min per game for Rysheed in freshmen yr.
The idea of this lineup has me salivating:
Obekpa
Sampson
Dom
D'lo
Rysheed
Branch first guy off the bench.
This of course assumes everyone is back, which I'm confident they will be. The beauty of that lineup is that there are plenty of scoring options but then we also have some serious defenders in there as well.
Really hope we get this kid.
You think Rysheed would/should get the nod over Branch? I can see Rysheed being the first off the bench playing the 1, 2, and 3. Plenty of minutes to go around.
Probably not to start the season. But if he plays like the #22 recruit, I think he would eventually take the job. But, I think if he were to pick us, Lavin would experiment with a lineup that had Branch, D'lo, and Rysheed on the court together.
Absolutely regarding your last statement.
-
Sign him up, been my plan A all along but if all else fails there's always jonny.. And rysheed is on another level then josh brown. Rysheed is a pro, he's as tough as they come
-
Sign him up, been my plan A all along but if all else fails there's always jonny.. And rysheed is on another level then josh brown. Rysheed is a pro, he's as tough as they come
Except it looks like we have no interest in Severe
-
Thought Hughes was more 6'5/6'6, and Jordan more 6'2/6'3 but whatever.
6'4.5" without shoes at the NBA pre-draft measurement.
-
What happens if we were lucky enough to get Sanchez eligible and land Jordan
Sanchez C
Sampson F
Jordan G
Harrison G
Branch G
Obekpa
Pointer
Garrett
Greene
Bourgault
Gift
Balamou
Hooper
Jones
One extra player obviously, can't see Jones sticking around but am concerned Amir may bolt. I do not like how the staff slashed his minutes at the expense of Greene after Branch started playing.
-
What happens if we were lucky enough to get Sanchez eligible and land Jordan
Sanchez C
Sampson F
Jordan G
Harrison G
Branch G
Obekpa
Pointer
Garrett
Greene
Bourgault
Gift
Balamou
Hooper
Jones
One extra player obviously, can't see Jones sticking around but am concerned Amir may bolt. I do not like how the staff slashed his minutes at the expense of Greene after Branch started playing.
two athletic, long fwds, that can score, i believe is Lavin's dream. that's what he's been trying to get since he got here. moe and jks was where it was suppose to start. then this year it was jks and sanchez. and for next year, i think lavin dreamt of jks and lawrence. now, i hope and pray, we can get jks and sanchez in the same lineup.
ted, your lineup is a Big East Championship Team next year.
-
Like Ted's team, but already worrying about the year after, losing Sanchez and probably Sampson. Lol
-
Nice preview of Sunday's championship game pitting Jordan against Austin, a fixture Providence star IMO;
“@KevinMcNamara33: Showdown in Philly for future Friar Brandon Austin
http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/high_school/20130222_Public_League_Championship_Preview.html (http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/high_school/20130222_Public_League_Championship_Preview.html)”
-
What happens if we were lucky enough to get Sanchez eligible and land Jordan
Sanchez C
Sampson F
Jordan G
Harrison G
Branch G
Obekpa
Pointer
Garrett
Greene
Bourgault
Gift
Balamou
Hooper
Jones
One extra player obviously, can't see Jones sticking around but am concerned Amir may bolt. I do not like how the staff slashed his minutes at the expense of Greene after Branch started playing.
two athletic, long fwds, that can score, i believe is Lavin's dream. that's what he's been trying to get since he got here. moe and jks was where it was suppose to start. then this year it was jks and sanchez. and for next year, i think lavin dreamt of jks and lawrence. now, i hope and pray, we can get jks and sanchez in the same lineup.
ted, your lineup is a Big East Championship Team next year.
There would obviously be a minutes crunch but if everyone bought in to playing 25 minutes (the core group) it would not hurt their chances of a pro career somewhere after St Johns
Minute Distributiom
Sanchez 25
Sampson 30
Harrison 30
Jordan 20
Branch 20
Pointer 20
Garrett 20
Obekpa 20
Greene 15
Obviously no minutes for Gift Marco Felix or Hooper is where the problem lies.
But the following year everyone's minutes would increase with Sanchez, Gift, and likely departures of Sampson and possibly Harrison.
-
Like Ted's team, but already or worrying about the year after, losing Sanchez and probably Sampson. Lol
There would likely be 3 ships available and a dire need to recruit 2 kids 6-8 or taller, maybe 3
-
The scholarship distribution further cements everyone's feelings that Gift had no business redshirting this season. Obviously that changes if Sanchez doesn't win his suit vs NCAA
-
The scholarship distribution further cements everyone's feelings that Gift had no business redshirting this season. Obviously that changes if Sanchez doesn't win his suit vs NCAA
We can use a kid like Gift next year no matter what. Hes a string kid in the post that can rebound. Having Sanchez for a year would be golden. Best case scenario. We ant worry about minutes for every kid. We do balance things out well in general, and if we are winning it will only be a tight roster for one season. Having that much talent and depth is a luxury and not something to worry about.
-
The scholarship distribution further cements everyone's feelings that Gift had no business redshirting this season. Obviously that changes if Sanchez doesn't win his suit vs NCAA
We can use a kid like Gift next year no matter what. Hes a string kid in the post that can rebound. Having Sanchez for a year would be golden. Best case scenario. We ant worry about minutes for every kid. We do balance things out well in general, and if we are winning it will only be a tight roster for one season. Having that much talent and depth is a luxury and not something to worry about.
I am not worried about it, the kids either buy into the situation for a year with a guarantee of more minutes the following year or they don't
A few guys would be vulnerable but with the quality of the roster and the interchangeable quality of the kids, Coach Lavin can easily go 10-11 guys deep and do everything he wants on offensive and defensive end.
It's never a problem at Duke when they have mcD AA not seeing the floor.
-
The scholarship distribution further cements everyone's feelings that Gift had no business redshirting this season. Obviously that changes if Sanchez doesn't win his suit vs NCAA
We can use a kid like Gift next year no matter what. Hes a string kid in the post that can rebound. Having Sanchez for a year would be golden. Best case scenario. We ant worry about minutes for every kid. We do balance things out well in general, and if we are winning it will only be a tight roster for one season. Having that much talent and depth is a luxury and not something to worry about.
We could have used a kid like Gift this year. Having him might this year might be the difference in a couple of games, which might be the difference in making the NCAA tourny .
-
The scholarship distribution further cements everyone's feelings that Gift had no business redshirting this season. Obviously that changes if Sanchez doesn't win his suit vs NCAA
We can use a kid like Gift next year no matter what. Hes a string kid in the post that can rebound. Having Sanchez for a year would be golden. Best case scenario. We ant worry about minutes for every kid. We do balance things out well in general, and if we are winning it will only be a tight roster for one season. Having that much talent and depth is a luxury and not something to worry about.
We could have used a kid like Gift this year. Having him might this year might be the difference in a couple of games, which might be the difference in making the NCAA tourny .
I always believed that you worry about this year first
-
And there is always the possibility of redshirting a talented young player -- like Felix or Jones -- next year.
-
What happens if we were lucky enough to get Sanchez eligible and land Jordan
Sanchez C
Sampson F
Jordan G
Harrison G
Branch G
Obekpa
Pointer
Garrett
Greene
Bourgault
Gift
Balamou
Hooper
Jones
One extra player obviously, can't see Jones sticking around but am concerned Amir may bolt. I do not like how the staff slashed his minutes at the expense of Greene after Branch started playing.
two athletic, long fwds, that can score, i believe is Lavin's dream. that's what he's been trying to get since he got here. moe and jks was where it was suppose to start. then this year it was jks and sanchez. and for next year, i think lavin dreamt of jks and lawrence. now, i hope and pray, we can get jks and sanchez in the same lineup.
ted, your lineup is a Big East Championship Team next year.
There would obviously be a minutes crunch but if everyone bought in to playing 25 minutes (the core group) it would not hurt their chances of a pro career somewhere after St Johns
Minute Distributiom
Sanchez 25
Sampson 30
Harrison 30
Jordan 20
Branch 20
Pointer 20
Garrett 20
Obekpa 20
Greene 15
Obviously no minutes for Gift Marco Felix or Hooper is where the problem lies.
But the following year everyone's minutes would increase with Sanchez, Gift, and likely departures of Sampson and possibly Harrison.
There are worse things in the world then to have a roster that loaded with talent.
-
And there is always the possibility of redshirting a talented young player -- like Felix or Jones -- next year.
Keep Jones around for an extra year? No thanks.
-
A 5th yr senior would have helped this yr no?
-
You ready to give up on Jones this early, Marillac? I'm not by any stretch.
-
In retrospect Gift would have helped to SOME extent this year (who knows how that can be quantified). My guess is that between Jones playing well early (which is all we read) and the staff's belief that Sanchez ultimately would get qualified, led them to conclude that the better play was redshirting Gift. That probably has turned out to be the wrong call, but I honestly don't know how much it would have mattered this year in the standings. We'll never know.
-
And there is always the possibility of redshirting a talented young player -- like Felix or Jones -- next year.
Keep Jones around for an extra year? No thanks.
Woefully shortsighted in the most extreme.
-
And there is always the possibility of redshirting a talented young player -- like Felix or Jones -- next year.
A redshirt still takes up a scholarship. And takes it up for an extra year. Doesn't solve the problem.
-
And there is always the possibility of redshirting a talented young player -- like Felix or Jones -- next year.
A redshirt still takes up a scholarship. And takes it up for an extra year. Doesn't solve the problem.
Agreed but we don't have a problem yet. Getting way ahead of ourselves. Sanchez is very far from ever being declared eligible and Jordan has still not committed.
-
“@jmverlin: Rysheed Jordan's jumper at the buzzer is NO GOOD! Imhotep holds on for a 67-66 victory in the Public League championship”
At one point he had 42 points late in game. Have not seen another update. If we get this kid, shit can the weave, clear out and let him go to the bucket! Lol
-
“@ozoneinq: Vaux's Rysheed Jordan netted 45 points, 6 rebounds, 4 steals, and 1 assist. He hit four three-pointers.”
-
“@ozoneinq: Vaux's Rysheed Jordan netted 45 points, 6 rebounds, 4 steals, and 1 assist. He hit four three-pointers.”
Point guard
haha
-
Isiah Thomas was a point who could score. I'll take a guy that can pass and score when needed.
-
“@ozoneinq: Vaux's Rysheed Jordan netted 45 points, 6 rebounds, 4 steals, and 1 assist. He hit four three-pointers.”
he would really help next yr. gives us another scoring option. Reel him in Coach!!
-
Got it vs. box&1
-
Got it vs. box&1
We should have used that today.
-
Got it vs. box&1
We should have used that today.
The halftime CYO winner changed defenses and played better on the perimeter then we did today
-
Got it vs. box&1
We should have used that today.
I knew Woodall would be the key to the game.
-
Story of Rysheed's game today. The game was at Temple's home court but ironic that SJU, Temple and UCLA all played today so unlikely anyone from those 3 were there to see it.
http://mobile.philly.com/blogs/?wss=/philly/blogs/rick-obrien/&id=192906116&viewAll=y#more (http://mobile.philly.com/blogs/?wss=/philly/blogs/rick-obrien/&id=192906116&viewAll=y#more)
-
Brandon Austin--Providence commit. Cooley slowly but surely...
-
Brandon Austin--Providence commit. Cooley slowly but surely...
Cousin of shurina cheese welcome!
-
Brandon Austin--Providence commit. Cooley slowly but surely...
....is growing that bald patch.
-
Brandon Austin--Providence commit. Cooley slowly but surely...
....is growing that bald patch.
Probably alopecia, be kind.
-
Vaux's Rysheed Jordan named MVP of Public League A
POSTED: Monday, February 25, 2013, 11:30 AM
A day after scoring a game-high 45 points in the Public League boys' basketball championship, Vaux senior guard Rysheed Jordan was named the MVP of Public League Division A on Monday morning.
He also was named to the division's first team for the third-straight season.
Jordan grabbed six rebounds and recorded four steals as Vaux fell on Sunday afternoon to Imhotep, 67-66, in the league final at Temple. Sometime after the season Jordan will commit to UCLA, Temple or St. John's.
Up next for Vaux is the PIAA Class A Playoffs, which start March 8.
Also on Division A's first team: Brandon Austin, Imhotep; Jeremiah Worthem, Math, Civics & Sciences; Hakeem Baxter, Philadelphia Electrical; David Johnson, Communications Tech.
“@matt_breen: Vaux senior guard Rysheed Jordan @sheedjordan named MVP of Public League A http://
http://bit.ly/1262wso (http://bit.ly/1262wso)”
-
Brandon Austin--Providence commit. Cooley slowly but surely...
Cousin of shurina cheese welcome!
LOL Shurina's new Alias!
:2funny:
-
Rysheed on squad;
“@EvanDanielsFOX: Kentucky Derby Festival Basketball Classic rosters ... http://scouthoops.scout.com/2/1269831.html (http://scouthoops.scout.com/2/1269831.html)”
-
Bad news from Dave
@DaveKrupinski: When it rains, it pours for #stjbb. Heard from multiple sources today that Rysheed Jordan is strong lean towards #UCLA #GoBruins
-
Bad news from Dave
@DaveKrupinski: When it rains, it pours for #stjbb. Heard from multiple sources today that Rysheed Jordan is strong lean towards #UCLA #GoBruins
According to CRGreen - they need a point guard next year, right? Makes sense. This can't be a surprise.
-
Lavin Warned Us!!!!
:o
-
Worst news of the day.
-
ughh was this decision made before the whole d'lo incident Dave?
-
Bad news from Dave
@DaveKrupinski: When it rains, it pours for #stjbb. Heard from multiple sources today that Rysheed Jordan is strong lean towards #UCLA #GoBruins
shouldn't read so much into this, sources say things all the time. Jordan will make a decision based on whee he thinks he fits in best. hopefully with us, but if not wwe will move on.
-
ughh was this decision made before the whole d'lo incident Dave?
Dont really read this as a decision, i've read countless reports from sources saying a guy is leaningand ends up somewhere else. Obekpa was a heavy lean to cincy and he ended up here.
-
“@jmverlin: Rysheed Jordan (@sheedjordan) named CoBL All-City MVP for the 2012-13 season: http://cityofbasketballlove.com/2013/03/jordan-named-cobl-hs-mvp-for-2012-13-season/ (http://cityofbasketballlove.com/2013/03/jordan-named-cobl-hs-mvp-for-2012-13-season/)”
-
ughh was this decision made before the whole d'lo incident Dave?
No correlation
-
Howland getting confirmation of obvious out there early. Lose one star and get another like Jordan, envious!
""I'm very much a realist now," Howland said. "I knew going into this deal that this was a one-year deal, and it should be. He's a lottery pick. He's a top-five pick. When you have that going for you, it is absolutely the right thing."
http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/9009365/shabazz-muhammad-ucla-bruins-head-nba-according-ben-howland (http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/9009365/shabazz-muhammad-ucla-bruins-head-nba-according-ben-howland)
-
What happens when /if Howland gets fired ??
-
What happens when /if Howland gets fired ??
He's not getting fired.
-
Jordan will go to UCLA. Sampson and Obekpa will return. Carrington will choose SJU
-
Jordan will go to UCLA. Sampson and Obekpa will return. Carrington will choose SJU
Thanks 79. Hopefully Harrison is here next year as well and carrington commits to
Us earlier than next march.
-
Jordan will go to UCLA. Sampson and Obekpa will return. Carrington will choose SJU
79, what are your thoughts on Carrington? Anyone on the radar for 2013?
-
Jordan will go to UCLA. Sampson and Obekpa will return. Carrington will choose SJU
Kyle Anderson Part Deux.
Think about it. Hometown school heavily involved-Temple. He goes to many of their games, the coaching staff at Temple practically lives at Jordan's school.
SJU heavily involved. And despite constant proclamations that staying close to home is important and his family being close is important the one school farthest away UCLA comes in and snags him.
Does Jordan have a sister that is in the entertainment business???? LOL!!!
-
I really hope we do better then Carrington
-
I haven't watched more than 5 minutes of UCLA basketball this year, but based on the current roster, I don't see the opportunity for Rysheed. UCLA has several guards getting substantial minutes and making contributions:
Jordan Adams: 6'5" Freshman guard, 15.0 ppg in about 30 minutes a game.
Norman Powell: 6'4" Sophomore guard, 6.0 ppg in about 20 minutes a game.
Larry Drew II: 6'2" Senior guard, 7.3 ppg in about about 35 minutes a game.
I guess Rysheed can hope to get all of Drew's mnutes. I suppose all of the current players except Shabazz are looking to take those minutes as are any other signed recruits.
UCLA also has Kyle Anderson who was a point guard in high school and now has been converted to a point forward. Maybe he wants to slide back to a shooting guard?
Rysheed appears to be more of a 'shoot first' point guard, rather than a 'pass first' point guard. I am far from an expert on the subject, but it seems UCLA would be better served by a 'pass first' guard. Who knows, maybe this is how the contenders reload?
-
I haven't watched more than 5 minutes of UCLA basketball this year, but based on the current roster, I don't see the opportunity for Rysheed. UCLA has several guards getting substantial minutes and making contributions:
Jordan Adams: 6'5" Freshman guard, 15.0 ppg in about 30 minutes a game.
Norman Powell: 6'4" Sophomore guard, 6.0 ppg in about 20 minutes a game.
Larry Drew II: 6'2" Senior guard, 7.3 ppg in about about 35 minutes a game.
I guess Rysheed can hope to get all of Drew's mnutes. I suppose all of the current players except Shabazz are looking to take those minutes as are any other signed recruits.
UCLA also has Kyle Anderson who was a point guard in high school and now has been converted to a point forward. Maybe he wants to slide back to a shooting guard?
Rysheed appears to be more of a 'shoot first' point guard, rather than a 'pass first' point guard. I am far from an expert on the subject, but it seems UCLA would be better served by a 'pass first' guard. Who knows, maybe this is how the contenders reload?
Kyle Anderson is too tall/slow to play shooting guard. But because of how skilled a passer he is, Rysheed actually fits well with UCLA because both he and Kyle can take what's given to them and not force things. They can rotate who takes the ball up and such based on whatever the favorable match up is, I think Rysheed's smart to go to UCLA. I want him at St. John's but as long as he gets playing time, I can't blame him for wanting to spend a couple of years in SoCal and at a program like UCLA.
-
Jordan will go to UCLA. Sampson and Obekpa will return. Carrington will choose SJU
Heard the same regarding $Jordan.. but keep hearing Carrington will choose UCONN.
I'm not Carrington's biggest fan.. but if true i guess you can't turn down a city kid who wants to be here.
-
I like Carrington. Haven't seen him play this fall/winter but this past summer he caught my eye. Similar build to Jordan but not as explosive
-
Remember the post I had a few pages back with this quote from Kamal Yard in the scout.com article. Assuming his choice is UCLA it almost seems like he let the cat out of the bag perhaps unknowingly with this quote:
Nothing new but this quote by Yard was interesting:
“He’s going to wait and see what is going on with the coaching situation,” Yard added.
I assume he means Howland because of the 3 he is the only one even remotely in doubt and assuming UCLA safely makes the NCAA my guess is he is coming back next year as well.
-
I haven't watched more than 5 minutes of UCLA basketball this year, but based on the current roster, I don't see the opportunity for Rysheed. UCLA has several guards getting substantial minutes and making contributions:
Jordan Adams: 6'5" Freshman guard, 15.0 ppg in about 30 minutes a game.
Norman Powell: 6'4" Sophomore guard, 6.0 ppg in about 20 minutes a game.
Larry Drew II: 6'2" Senior guard, 7.3 ppg in about about 35 minutes a game.
I guess Rysheed can hope to get all of Drew's mnutes. I suppose all of the current players except Shabazz are looking to take those minutes as are any other signed recruits.
UCLA also has Kyle Anderson who was a point guard in high school and now has been converted to a point forward. Maybe he wants to slide back to a shooting guard?
Rysheed appears to be more of a 'shoot first' point guard, rather than a 'pass first' point guard. I am far from an expert on the subject, but it seems UCLA would be better served by a 'pass first' guard. Who knows, maybe this is how the contenders reload?
None of the other guards can play point, except Kyle Anderson, who's the starting Power Forward (and has locked up being the #2 freshman REBOUNDER in UCLA history at over 9 a game, behind only Kevin Love). There are 40 minutes of PG time available. The Bruins are trying to bring in 2 pgs this spring (also looking at JCs to balance the class), and 2 bigs.
As for shoot first/pass first, UCLA has had success with both. Jordan Farmar was a 29 pt high school scorer. Russell Westbrook certainly is perceived as a shoot first - but he also dished 160 assists. Jrue Holiday was a shoot first, Darren Collison a pass first, who HAPPENED to also be the best shooter on 3 final four teams. Malcolm Lee was a combo. Larry Drew is certainly a "pass first" this year - But he's also 3rd in the Pac 12 in 3pt % at 43% heading into the final week of the season.
-
Howland getting confirmation of obvious out there early. Lose one star and get another like Jordan, envious!
""I'm very much a realist now," Howland said. "I knew going into this deal that this was a one-year deal, and it should be. He's a lottery pick. He's a top-five pick. When you have that going for you, it is absolutely the right thing."
http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/9009365/shabazz-muhammad-ucla-bruins-head-nba-according-ben-howland (http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/9009365/shabazz-muhammad-ucla-bruins-head-nba-according-ben-howland)
Kyle's father sounds like Kyle wants to spend another year in Westwood:
http://www.ocregister.com/sports/leaning-498214-says-anderson.html (http://www.ocregister.com/sports/leaning-498214-says-anderson.html)
-
Carrington is nice. I'm a believer. Get a consistent jump shop and u have a real problem
-
Howland getting confirmation of obvious out there early. Lose one star and get another like Jordan, envious!
""I'm very much a realist now," Howland said. "I knew going into this deal that this was a one-year deal, and it should be. He's a lottery pick. He's a top-five pick. When you have that going for you, it is absolutely the right thing."
http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/9009365/shabazz-muhammad-ucla-bruins-head-nba-according-ben-howland (http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/9009365/shabazz-muhammad-ucla-bruins-head-nba-according-ben-howland)
Kyle's father sounds like Kyle wants to spend another year in Westwood:
http://www.ocregister.com/sports/leaning-498214-says-anderson.html (http://www.ocregister.com/sports/leaning-498214-says-anderson.html)
Please, this kid isn't even close to be ready. The father needs to take the blinders off.
-
Howland getting confirmation of obvious out there early. Lose one star and get another like Jordan, envious!
""I'm very much a realist now," Howland said. "I knew going into this deal that this was a one-year deal, and it should be. He's a lottery pick. He's a top-five pick. When you have that going for you, it is absolutely the right thing."
http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/9009365/shabazz-muhammad-ucla-bruins-head-nba-according-ben-howland (http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/9009365/shabazz-muhammad-ucla-bruins-head-nba-according-ben-howland)
Kyle's father sounds like Kyle wants to spend another year in Westwood:
http://www.ocregister.com/sports/leaning-498214-says-anderson.html (http://www.ocregister.com/sports/leaning-498214-says-anderson.html)
Please, this kid isn't even close to be ready. The father needs to take the blinders off.
Problem is the with his lack of athleticism, I don't see his game suddenly taking off and making him more of an NBA commodity. He's good for sure. Doesn't change the limitations he will have. Kid like him has to work on becoming a deadeye shooter ala Larry Bird if he is going to convince NBA teams that he has enough athleticism to play both ways as a wing or guard in the nba. Is two more years at ucla going to make ts kid more ready? Not sure.
-
Wow what a surprise.... Lavin not gonna land another one of his targets...
-
Anyone else starting to get just a bit worried about recruiting? This is supposed to be Lavin's #1 skill...this is what he's known for, and 2 local can't miss recruits walk away. I really think we need to start landing the Lawrence's, McCollugh's, Jordan's if we are to take this program to the next level. I know we don't really need many recruits because we have a ton of guys right now, but I really hope Lavin doesn't keep laying eggs recruiting wise. We can get good talent, but not top 10 or 15 guys who really change programs. That must change.
-
Wow what a surprise.... Lavin not gonna land another one of his targets...
Can't get 'em all.
-
Uh, he's just recruited two back-to-back BE rookie of the years.
But trolls gonna troll.
-
Anyone else starting to get just a bit worried about recruiting? This is supposed to be Lavin's #1 skill...this is what he's known for, and 2 local can't miss recruits walk away. I really think we need to start landing the Lawrence's, McCollugh's, Jordan's if we are to take this program to the next level. I know we don't really need many recruits because we have a ton of guys right now, but I really hope Lavin doesn't keep laying eggs recruiting wise. We can get good talent, but not top 10 or 15 guys who really change programs. That must change.
No. We've secured top 75 kids every year under Lavin and now have a full roster.
-
Anyone else starting to get just a bit worried about recruiting? This is supposed to be Lavin's #1 skill...this is what he's known for, and 2 local can't miss recruits walk away. I really think we need to start landing the Lawrence's, McCollugh's, Jordan's if we are to take this program to the next level. I know we don't really need many recruits because we have a ton of guys right now, but I really hope Lavin doesn't keep laying eggs recruiting wise. We can get good talent, but not top 10 or 15 guys who really change programs. That must change.
Since at the moment we have no scholarships to give, no, not that worried that he hasn't signed anyone. I look at it as the ride we thought we had to give is going to an extremely talented "one and done" next year in Sanchez. We need bigs, we need shooters. We add Sanchez, Gift and Hooper next year. Another PG would be nice, but Branch will be very good and Phil is "serviceable" as a backup. And there are a lot of GREAT 2014 PGs out there.
-
A little unrelated, but I'm curious.
I know our monster class Lavin's first year was really quite amazing. Having those kind of quality kids commit. That also coincided with our best year, we were all over espn, ranked, beating some very good teams down the stretch.
How many kids committed during/after the season?
-
Wow what a surprise.... Lavin not gonna land another one of his targets...
Can't get 'em all.
unless you're Calipari and Kentucky :P
-
A little unrelated, but I'm curious.
I know our monster class Lavin's first year was really quite amazing. Having those kind of quality kids commit. That also coincided with our best year, we were all over espn, ranked, beating some very good teams down the stretch.
How many kids committed during/after the season?
That first class everyone committed prior to the season except for Phil and Gift. Phil committed in January after one of our wins. Forgot which one. Gift after the year.
So the success had minimal impact.
-
A little unrelated, but I'm curious.
I know our monster class Lavin's first year was really quite amazing. Having those kind of quality kids commit. That also coincided with our best year, we were all over espn, ranked, beating some very good teams down the stretch.
How many kids committed during/after the season?
Teams that win sign better players. I think there was certainly a connection. We were all over ESPN and talked about all year knocking of top 25 teams left and right. We'll be that good again next year.
-
A little unrelated, but I'm curious.
I know our monster class Lavin's first year was really quite amazing. Having those kind of quality kids commit. That also coincided with our best year, we were all over espn, ranked, beating some very good teams down the stretch.
How many kids committed during/after the season?
Teams that win sign better players. I think there was certainly a connection. We were all over ESPN and talked about all year knocking of top 25 teams left and right. We'll be that good again next year.
But again we had pretty much the whole class wrapped before the ball was even tipped.
-
Uh, he's just recruited two back-to-back BE rookie of the years.
But trolls gonna troll.
Great response!
-
I'll just say this about Lavin's recruiting. You can probably count on one hand the number of coaches who could have come to St. John's in 2010 and have the amount of high ranking recruits on the roster as we do now after 3 years.
-
I see lots of reasonable things you can criticize coach for lately, recruiting is not one of them. Unless you want to argue the makeup of the team, that I can see.
But in terms of getting kids to commit? He's fine. Not even slightly worried about that. We have a full roster, top tier players aren't usually willing to ride the pine unless its at an elite school.
-
I see lots of reasonable things you can criticize coach for lately, recruiting is not one of them. Unless you want to argue the makeup of the team, that I can see.
But in terms of getting kids to commit? He's fine. Not even slightly worried about that. We have a full roster, top tier players aren't usually willing to ride the pine unless its at an elite school.
So we can or can't critique recruiting? I'm confused?
-
Maybe Rysheed likes PJs; Ugh
“@CBSSports: UCLA star Shabazz Muhammad models the Bruins' new uniforms. Spoiler: They look ridiculous. http://cbsprt.co/UCLAUnis (http://cbsprt.co/UCLAUnis)”
-
Interesting that UCLA would offer a low level JUCO recruit Point Guard (who was a walk on at Morehead St before he went JUCO) when they reportedly have Jordan "in the bag."
Apparently the JUCO kid is beginning to draw other high majors. His name is Dre Mathieu:
"I know a lot of people, they're probably thinking, 'He didn't even make the Morehead team; he didn't even earn a scholarship at Morehead,'" Mathieu said. "'He can't be good enough to go to UCLA.'
"But I've worked. This is not just that. I've worked hard and I feel like I'm a lot better than I was at Morehead. A better leader and a better overall point guard. I'm just a lot better."
So much better, in fact, that when UCLA assistant Philip Mathews came to see him practice this week in Arizona, he offered him a Bruin scholarship on the spot.
"The day before yesterday, my coach told me they were coming," Mathieu said of UCLA. "Coach Mathews came to watch me practice. I was excited about that. And during the practice that he watched, we did some drills and what not, and he was like, 'I've seen you play, I really like you and he told me I should come play at UCLA.'"
http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1480235 (http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1480235)
-
I'll just say this about Lavin's recruiting. You can probably count on one hand the number of coaches who could have come to St. John's in 2010 and have the amount of high ranking recruits on the roster as we do now after 3 years.
Pointer and Garrett make two. We have two left from the first class.
-
We ONLY had 6 top 100 kids in the 2011 class. Sampson came back the next year, so that would make 3 and Harrison hasn't gone anywhere yet (although I'm sure he's on his way out). 3/4 out of 6 isn't bad. Especially considering 1 is in the NBA and the other is lost in California. Regardless, for St. John's, having just TWO top 100 guys is impressive enough considering our recent track record.
-
We ONLY had 6 top 100 kids in the 2011 class. Sampson came back the next year, so that would make 3 and Harrison hasn't gone anywhere yet (although I'm sure he's on his way out). 3/4 out of 6 isn't bad. Especially considering 1 is in the NBA and the other is lost in California. Regardless, for St. John's, having just TWO top 100 guys is impressive enough considering our recent track record.
Norm wasn't getting top 100 kids because players regressed under him. Before him, we routinely landed McDonald's AA players. Lavin's recruiting success isn't actually so successful, if we can't shoot or pass the ball.
-
Interesting that UCLA would offer a low level JUCO recruit Point Guard (who was a walk on at Morehead St before he went JUCO) when they reportedly have Jordan "in the bag."
Apparently the JUCO kid is beginning to draw other high majors. His name is Dre Mathieu:
"I know a lot of people, they're probably thinking, 'He didn't even make the Morehead team; he didn't even earn a scholarship at Morehead,'" Mathieu said. "'He can't be good enough to go to UCLA.'
"But I've worked. This is not just that. I've worked hard and I feel like I'm a lot better than I was at Morehead. A better leader and a better overall point guard. I'm just a lot better."
So much better, in fact, that when UCLA assistant Philip Mathews came to see him practice this week in Arizona, he offered him a Bruin scholarship on the spot.
"The day before yesterday, my coach told me they were coming," Mathieu said of UCLA. "Coach Mathews came to watch me practice. I was excited about that. And during the practice that he watched, we did some drills and what not, and he was like, 'I've seen you play, I really like you and he told me I should come play at UCLA.'"
http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1480235 (http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1480235)
Good luck to UCLA with Mathieu... Hope he commits to them tomorrow... 8). Really hope Lavin makes a push with Jordan here. I know we haven't been out of it, but hoping he wants to stay in the east ultimately. If Harrison isn't back, Jordan is the only guy who I think can replace him at this point in time, and I think can do a lot of things passing and athleticism-wise that D'Lo can't.
IMO, if Howland is offering other PG's it is potentially a good sign. Keeping fingers crossed.
-
I'll just say this about Lavin's recruiting. You can probably count on one hand the number of coaches who could have come to St. John's in 2010 and have the amount of high ranking recruits on the roster as we do now after 3 years.
Pointer and Garrett make two. We have two left from the first class.
How about Obekpa? Jakarr? Branch? Dare I say Sanchez would be considered a consensus top 100?
-
We ONLY had 6 top 100 kids in the 2011 class. Sampson came back the next year, so that would make 3 and Harrison hasn't gone anywhere yet (although I'm sure he's on his way out). 3/4 out of 6 isn't bad. Especially considering 1 is in the NBA and the other is lost in California. Regardless, for St. John's, having just TWO top 100 guys is impressive enough considering our recent track record.
Norm wasn't getting top 100 kids because players regressed under him. Before him, we routinely landed McDonald's AA players. Lavin's recruiting success isn't actually so successful, if we can't shoot or pass the ball.
Routinely landed McD's kids???? really?
-
We ONLY had 6 top 100 kids in the 2011 class. Sampson came back the next year, so that would make 3 and Harrison hasn't gone anywhere yet (although I'm sure he's on his way out). 3/4 out of 6 isn't bad. Especially considering 1 is in the NBA and the other is lost in California. Regardless, for St. John's, having just TWO top 100 guys is impressive enough considering our recent track record.
Norm wasn't getting top 100 kids because players regressed under him. Before him, we routinely landed McDonald's AA players. Lavin's recruiting success isn't actually so successful, if we can't shoot or pass the ball.
Routinely landed McD's kids???? really?
Not every year, but not far off.
94, Z and Felipe
97, Artest
98, Barkley
00, Cook
02, Ingram
Jarvis' arrogant behavior towards recruits killed this success.
It wasn't every year, but we got our share.
The best Norm did was Burrell was #50 on many CBB sites. Rob Thomas, at one point was ranked #60. That's it. Thomas' lack of physical health wasn't Norm's fault. But when he finally got a local stud in Burrell, many felt he regressed because of Norm.
I know I did.
-
We ONLY had 6 top 100 kids in the 2011 class. Sampson came back the next year, so that would make 3 and Harrison hasn't gone anywhere yet (although I'm sure he's on his way out). 3/4 out of 6 isn't bad. Especially considering 1 is in the NBA and the other is lost in California. Regardless, for St. John's, having just TWO top 100 guys is impressive enough considering our recent track record.
Norm wasn't getting top 100 kids because players regressed under him. Before him, we routinely landed McDonald's AA players. Lavin's recruiting success isn't actually so successful, if we can't shoot or pass the ball.
Routinely landed McD's kids???? really?
Not every year, but not far off.
94, Z and Felipe
97, Artest
98, Barkley
00, Cook
02, Ingram
Jarvis' arrogant behavior towards recruits killed this success.
It wasn't every year, but we got our share.
The best Norm did was Burrell was #50 on many CBB sites. Rob Thomas, at one point was ranked #60. That's it. Thomas' lack of physical health wasn't Norm's fault. But when he finally got a local stud in Burrell, many felt he regressed because of Norm.
I know I did.
the last three came under jarvis..barkley recommit.
he was a better recruiter at st john's than lavin...and a FAR better game tactician. his problem is the players didn't get better...and in most cases, regressed.
if he was smart enough to buy a couple of suits and a watch for FH, he'd still be here.
-
he was a better recruiter at st john's than lavin...
Straight up the most absurdist comment to date among dozens in the last few day.
-
he was a better recruiter at st john's than lavin...
Straight up the most absurdist comment to date among dozens in the last few day.
;D
-
he was a better recruiter at st john's than lavin...
Straight up the most absurdist comment to date among dozens in the last few day.
I think he means Fran, not Jarvis. Jarvis recruited Cook, Hatten & Ingram. That's it. Two of the three were great, but the support wasn't strong enough elsewhere.
It took Fran a year to fix it. I wonder what would have happened if he had stayed at St.John's. He was really connected to the city's talent, and he was a great evaluator of talent. Bootsy Thornton is the biggest sleeper since I can remember.
-
he was a better recruiter at st john's than lavin...
Straight up the most absurdist comment to date among dozens in the last few day.
I thought I was reading it wrong at first...comical.
-
Make comments all you want criticizing Lavin's coaching abilities, but please don't make yourself look foolish by trying to say he's not a great recruiter. That's just false.
-
Is this a Rysheed Jordan thread?
-
Make comments all you want criticizing Lavin's coaching abilities, but please don't make yourself look foolish by trying to say he's not a great recruiter. That's just false.
Not disagreeing with you but just curious, what's a better recruiting job:
1. Recruiting 8 guys who Everyone knows about but 2/3 of them end up being average at best.
Or
2. Recruiting 8 guys who no one knows about and having 2/3 of them becoming good players.
Just curious what people think. Does the better recruiter get Amir Garrett or does the better recruiter get Sean Kilpatrick?
-
Make comments all you want criticizing Lavin's coaching abilities, but please don't make yourself look foolish by trying to say he's not a great recruiter. That's just false.
Not disagreeing with you but just curious, what's a better recruiting job:
1. Recruiting 8 guys who Everyone knows about but 2/3 of them end up being average at best.
Or
2. Recruiting 8 guys who no one knows about and having 2/3 of them becoming good players.
Just curious what people think. Does the better recruiter get Amir Garrett or does the better recruiter get Sean Kilpatrick?
The better recruiter falls under 1. The better talent evaluator/coach falls under 2.
-
We ONLY had 6 top 100 kids in the 2011 class. Sampson came back the next year, so that would make 3 and Harrison hasn't gone anywhere yet (although I'm sure he's on his way out). 3/4 out of 6 isn't bad. Especially considering 1 is in the NBA and the other is lost in California. Regardless, for St. John's, having just TWO top 100 guys is impressive enough considering our recent track record.
Norm wasn't getting top 100 kids because players regressed under him. Before him, we routinely landed McDonald's AA players. Lavin's recruiting success isn't actually so successful, if we can't shoot or pass the ball.
Routinely landed McD's kids???? really?
Not every year, but not far off.
94, Z and Felipe
97, Artest
98, Barkley
00, Cook
02, Ingram
Jarvis' arrogant behavior towards recruits killed this success.
It wasn't every year, but we got our share.
The best Norm did was Burrell was #50 on many CBB sites. Rob Thomas, at one point was ranked #60. That's it. Thomas' lack of physical health wasn't Norm's fault. But when he finally got a local stud in Burrell, many felt he regressed because of Norm.
I know I did.
the last three came under jarvis..barkley recommit.
he was a better recruiter at st john's than lavin...and a FAR better game tactician. his problem is the players didn't get better...and in most cases, regressed.
if he was smart enough to buy a couple of suits and a watch for FH, he'd still be here.
Better recruiter than Lavin? Ha. This place has lost it.
-
Back to Rysheed:
Those in the know - would the Harrison situation have any impact on Rysheed?
-
We ONLY had 6 top 100 kids in the 2011 class. Sampson came back the next year, so that would make 3 and Harrison hasn't gone anywhere yet (although I'm sure he's on his way out). 3/4 out of 6 isn't bad. Especially considering 1 is in the NBA and the other is lost in California. Regardless, for St. John's, having just TWO top 100 guys is impressive enough considering our recent track record.
Norm wasn't getting top 100 kids because players regressed under him. Before him, we routinely landed McDonald's AA players. Lavin's recruiting success isn't actually so successful, if we can't shoot or pass the ball.
Routinely landed McD's kids???? really?
Not every year, but not far off.
94, Z and Felipe
97, Artest
98, Barkley
00, Cook
02, Ingram
Jarvis' arrogant behavior towards recruits killed this success.
It wasn't every year, but we got our share.
The best Norm did was Burrell was #50 on many CBB sites. Rob Thomas, at one point was ranked #60. That's it. Thomas' lack of physical health wasn't Norm's fault. But when he finally got a local stud in Burrell, many felt he regressed because of Norm.
I know I did.
the last three came under jarvis..barkley recommit.
he was a better recruiter at st john's than lavin...and a FAR better game tactician. his problem is the players didn't get better...and in most cases, regressed.
if he was smart enough to buy a couple of suits and a watch for FH, he'd still be here.
Quite frankly the most idiotic post on this board ever. This is out of control...We should demote ourselves to D3.
-
"Quite frankly the most idiotic post on this board ever. "
Although absurd, the scary part is that this post probably doesn't get into the top 10 most idiotic on the site.. At this rate, it may fall out of the top 20 in a week or so...
-
Make comments all you want criticizing Lavin's coaching abilities, but please don't make yourself look foolish by trying to say he's not a great recruiter. That's just false.
Not disagreeing with you but just curious, what's a better recruiting job:
1. Recruiting 8 guys who Everyone knows about but 2/3 of them end up being average at best.
Or
2. Recruiting 8 guys who no one knows about and having 2/3 of them becoming good players.
Just curious what people think. Does the better recruiter get Amir Garrett or does the better recruiter get Sean Kilpatrick?
Well is it not true that higher ranked recruits are more likely to have success than lower rated ones? Great recruiters can compete with the big boys and get guys to commit.
-
Back to Rysheed, UCLA offering a Juco PG yesterday isn't even being talked about. Must be promising, no?
-
Back to Rysheed, UCLA offering a Juco PG yesterday isn't even being talked about. Must be promising, no?
Dont really think it matters. How ever maybe if Emmanuel Owootoah commits to them along with the juco that will create a log jam and push him away from UCLA. Just a thought
-
Back to Rysheed, UCLA offering a Juco PG yesterday isn't even being talked about. Must be promising, no?
Dont really think it matters. How ever maybe if Emmanuel Owootoah commits to them along with the juco that will create a log jam and push him away from UCLA. Just a thought
Don't think so. Kyle's dad has been interviewd on the Bruin Scout page (also posts in their forums) and has indicated there's a 50/50 chance Kyle leaves - The Bruins are looking to bring in TWO pgs in this class. They were targeting one in this class, with Kyle backing him, and bringing in Parker Jackson Cartwright in the 2014 class. but PJC committed to Arizona. Their next "target" is 2015 Marcus Lovett Jr. A two year JC kid would be the perfect solution to the 2nd PG issue. They think Rysheed is a 2 year player as well.
Of course, all recruiting is a crapshoot. Matthieu (the JC) could end up the ONLY pg on the roster next year, with Combo frosh Zach Lavine and Allerick Freeman playing there as well. There's also a rumor of a 4th prospect in this class. A formerly highly rated LA area PG who's fallen off the radar, as he grew from 5'11 to 6'5, and transferred schools, and ended up having to sit out his senior year - that's per a Yahoo/Rivals report.
I trust Dave and his sources, and if he says Sheed is now a UCLA lean, it's likely true. But that doesn't mean he WON'T end up in a St. Johns uniform. The only thing I've been able to glean from this kid is that he hasn't wavered in the last 2 months on who the "final 3" are. My guess jis, as one of the couple top ranked prospects still undeclared, he's waiting for the ESPNU Signing Day show to announce Live, ala Shabazz and Noel last year.
-
Back to Rysheed, UCLA offering a Juco PG yesterday isn't even being talked about. Must be promising, no?
Dont really think it matters. How ever maybe if Emmanuel Owootoah commits to them along with the juco that will create a log jam and push him away from UCLA. Just a thought
Don't think so. Kyle's dad has been interviewd on the Bruin Scout page (also posts in their forums) and has indicated there's a 50/50 chance Kyle leaves - The Bruins are looking to bring in TWO pgs in this class. They were targeting one in this class, with Kyle backing him, and bringing in Parker Jackson Cartwright in the 2014 class. but PJC committed to Arizona. Their next "target" is 2015 Marcus Lovett Jr. A two year JC kid would be the perfect solution to the 2nd PG issue. They think Rysheed is a 2 year player as well.
Of course, all recruiting is a crapshoot. Matthieu (the JC) could end up the ONLY pg on the roster next year, with Combo frosh Zach Lavine and Allerick Freeman playing there as well. There's also a rumor of a 4th prospect in this class. A formerly highly rated LA area PG who's fallen off the radar, as he grew from 5'11 to 6'5, and transferred schools, and ended up having to sit out his senior year - that's per a Yahoo/Rivals report.
I trust Dave and his sources, and if he says Sheed is now a UCLA lean, it's likely true. But that doesn't mean he WON'T end up in a St. Johns uniform. The only thing I've been able to glean from this kid is that he hasn't wavered in the last 2 months on who the "final 3" are. My guess jis, as one of the couple top ranked prospects still undeclared, he's waiting for the ESPNU Signing Day show to announce Live, ala Shabazz and Noel last year.
Good info as always, just wishful thinking on my part
-
he was a better recruiter at st john's than lavin...
Straight up the most absurdist comment to date among dozens in the last few day.
+1000
-
Believe he has a playoff game tonight at 7:30.
I would assume we would have representation there.
-
Believe he has a playoff game tonight at 7:30.
I would assume we would have representation there.
Know his team lost last week in City playoffs, thought season was over?
-
I think it could be state playoffs now.
-
I think it could be state playoffs now.
Sorry J, you are right. Get in the car staff!
“@sheedjordan: To all VAUX fans and family and friends today is game day @ Germantown high school @7:30..”
-
I think it could be state playoffs now.
Sorry J, you are right. Get in the car staff!
“@sheedjordan: To all VAUX fans and family and friends today is game day @ Germantown high school @7:30..”
Too much snow.
Gotta rest up for game tomorrow :)
-
I think it could be state playoffs now.
Sorry J, you are right. Get in the car staff!
“@sheedjordan: To all VAUX fans and family and friends today is game day @ Germantown high school @7:30..”
Too much snow.
Gotta rest up for game tomorrow :)
Ha, need a few minutes to iron out offense?
-
I think it could be state playoffs now.
Sorry J, you are right. Get in the car staff!
“@sheedjordan: To all VAUX fans and family and friends today is game day @ Germantown high school @7:30..”
Why bother, he is going to UCLA... ::) ::)
-
he was a better recruiter at st john's than lavin...
Straight up the most absurdist comment to date among dozens in the last few day.
+1000
i'll admit if you can tell me whether lavin brought in any mcdonald aa's...jarvis had three.
did lavin bring in a better shooter than marcus hatten??? i'd say not even close. the shooting by the current recruits is beyond embarassing.
did lavin even attempt to go after top five players. jarvis had miles in the bag..but he opted to go to the nba (third overall choice) when high schoolers were allowed to go. would lavin have gotten harkless under the old rules?
any first team nyc players under lavin? jarvis had a few.
we all know about the jarvis hatred....but give him his due.
-
he was a better recruiter at st john's than lavin...
Straight up the most absurdist comment to date among dozens in the last few day.
+1000
i'll admit if you can tell me whether lavin brought in any mcdonald aa's...jarvis had three.
did lavin bring in a better shooter than marcus hatten??? i'd say not even close. the shooting by the current recruits is beyond embarassing.
did lavin even attempt to go after top five players. jarvis had miles in the bag..but he opted to go to the nba (third overall choice) when high schoolers were allowed to go. would lavin have gotten harkless under the old rules?
any first team nyc players under lavin? jarvis had a few.
we all know about the jarvis hatred....but give him his due.
McDonald's AA's are not always equivalent to high school rankings.
More importantly if Coach A brought in 8 top 75 kids and Coach B brought in 2 McD's AA's but 6 non-descript unranked players there is no way Coach B is a better recruiter then Coach A.
Sorry your comment has nothing to do with piling on about Jarvis. It is utter nonsense and you trying to justify it by bringing up the McD's AA nonsense just digs you a deeper hole.
You could simply say that Jarvis was not a bad recruiter and then justify it with the McD AA comment. But you didn’t say that you said he was BETTER then Lavin which is beyond insane.
-
maybe lavin is a better recruiter...but the team we have doesn't show it. far from it.
and, please, none of that young team mantra. this is the end of the sophomore year and the kids played an unusual amount of minutes their frosh season. they're virtual juniors. they should have it together by now.
-
he was a better recruiter at st john's than lavin...
Straight up the most absurdist comment to date among dozens in the last few day.
+1000
i'll admit if you can tell me whether lavin brought in any mcdonald aa's...jarvis had three.
did lavin bring in a better shooter than marcus hatten??? i'd say not even close. the shooting by the current recruits is beyond embarassing.
did lavin even attempt to go after top five players. jarvis had miles in the bag..but he opted to go to the nba (third overall choice) when high schoolers were allowed to go. would lavin have gotten harkless under the old rules?
any first team nyc players under lavin? jarvis had a few.
we all know about the jarvis hatred....but give him his due.
Miles wasn't qualifying. NBA or bust for him
-
he was a better recruiter at st john's than lavin...
Straight up the most absurdist comment to date among dozens in the last few day.
+1000
i'll admit if you can tell me whether lavin brought in any mcdonald aa's...jarvis had three.
did lavin bring in a better shooter than marcus hatten??? i'd say not even close. the shooting by the current recruits is beyond embarassing.
did lavin even attempt to go after top five players. jarvis had miles in the bag..but he opted to go to the nba (third overall choice) when high schoolers were allowed to go. would lavin have gotten harkless under the old rules?
any first team nyc players under lavin? jarvis had a few.
we all know about the jarvis hatred....but give him his due.
Jarvis didn't bring Barkley here. Fran did. If you're giving Jarvis credit because Barkley didn't transfer, that's kind of a reach IMO. If anything, Barkley deserves the credit because he got screwed, and decided to come here anyway.
-
he was a better recruiter at st john's than lavin...
Straight up the most absurdist comment to date among dozens in the last few day.
+1000
i'll admit if you can tell me whether lavin brought in any mcdonald aa's...jarvis had three.
did lavin bring in a better shooter than marcus hatten??? i'd say not even close. the shooting by the current recruits is beyond embarassing.
did lavin even attempt to go after top five players. jarvis had miles in the bag..but he opted to go to the nba (third overall choice) when high schoolers were allowed to go. would lavin have gotten harkless under the old rules?
any first team nyc players under lavin? jarvis had a few.
we all know about the jarvis hatred....but give him his due.
I love him as a player but Hatten was never a shooter at all. It was his weakness. But ill agree with this the current shooting on this team is horrendous.
When Lavin is here the same number of years Jarvis is here i think it wont even be a contest considering how Jarvis tailed off with recruiting at the end.
-
Cook also fell into Jarvis lap. Cook was a lock for Kentucky but Tubby wasn't gonna give Cook the starting job over his son Saul, who wasn't good. Tubby was loyal to his son to a fault, and never recruited over him. Cook reopened his recruitment late and there weren't many options left.
-
I may be wrong because it's been a long time, but I think Omar wanted UNC, but UNC took a PG before him, the name escapes me.
-
I may be wrong because it's been a long time, but I think Omar wanted UNC, but UNC took a PG before him, the name escapes me.
Morrison or Boone.
-
Adam Boone
-
Adam Boone
Wasn't it BOTH Boone and Morrison? (Both later transferred out - Boone back home to Minnessota, where he finished up as a 10 pt 4.5 assist Sr. Brian Morrison to UCLA, where he spent an injury plagued 2 years with the Bruins on Ben Howland's first two teams.
-
Top guard Omar Cook of Middle Village-Christ the King, NY., is stunned over North Carolina taking Adam Boone of Minnentoka, Minn. Cook is now looking at St. John's and Miami, or reopening recruiting.
http://espn.go.com/recruiting/s/1999/1027/136456.html (http://espn.go.com/recruiting/s/1999/1027/136456.html)
-
Top guard Omar Cook of Middle Village-Christ the King, NY., is stunned over North Carolina taking Adam Boone of Minnentoka, Minn. Cook is now looking at St. John's and Miami, or reopening recruiting.
http://espn.go.com/recruiting/s/1999/1027/136456.html (http://espn.go.com/recruiting/s/1999/1027/136456.html)
I see that specific article. But Boone and Morrison were also both PGs, signed in the same class, and Morrison was the higher ranked (#24 in the RSCI) than Boone (#32). He'd already committed to the Tar Heels when Boone signed - likely why they figured they didn't have to wait on Omar's decision.
Looking at that old ESPN recruiting page is a trip. Who woulda guessed back then that Luke Ridnour was "THE" guard you probably should have gone after out of all those listed! 20pt 7 assists senior year in college, and a decade long NBA career (10 pt 5 assist career averages)....
-
Guys keep the discussion on Rysheed please. I could probably take out about 4 pages of nonsense in this thread and I really don't want to do that.
-
Anybody else get the feeling Rysheed is waiting for the ESPNU Signing day live show to declare? As one of ESPN's 4 top 25 recruits undeclared (Andrew Wiggins, Julius Randle and Aaron Gordon), he's pretty much assured a spot that night for a "national declaration".
-
Anybody else get the feeling Rysheed is waiting for the ESPNU Signing day live show to declare? As one of ESPN's 4 top 25 recruits undeclared (Andrew Wiggins, Julius Randle and Aaron Gordon), he's pretty much assured a spot that night for a "national declaration".
What date is the show?
-
Anybody else get the feeling Rysheed is waiting for the ESPNU Signing day live show to declare? As one of ESPN's 4 top 25 recruits undeclared (Andrew Wiggins, Julius Randle and Aaron Gordon), he's pretty much assured a spot that night for a "national declaration".
Even if he wasn't, Lavin would get him on the show to announce. SJU used his ties at espn to have lots of ESPNU announcements in the past. I have no idea if that's what he's waiting for.
-
Anybody else get the feeling Rysheed is waiting for the ESPNU Signing day live show to declare? As one of ESPN's 4 top 25 recruits undeclared (Andrew Wiggins, Julius Randle and Aaron Gordon), he's pretty much assured a spot that night for a "national declaration".
What date is the show?
It's usually on the first day of the Spring Signing perirod - April 17th this year. The final day of spring signing is May 15th. After that, no LOIs, just grant-in-aid agreements.
-
he was a better recruiter at st john's than lavin...
Straight up the most absurdist comment to date among dozens in the last few day.
+1000
i'll admit if you can tell me whether lavin brought in any mcdonald aa's...jarvis had three.
did lavin bring in a better shooter than marcus hatten??? i'd say not even close. the shooting by the current recruits is beyond embarassing.
did lavin even attempt to go after top five players. jarvis had miles in the bag..but he opted to go to the nba (third overall choice) when high schoolers were allowed to go. would lavin have gotten harkless under the old rules?
any first team nyc players under lavin? jarvis had a few.
we all know about the jarvis hatred....but give him his due.
St. John's was still relavant when Jarvis took over and he was dealt a good hand by Fran
I loved Hatten but he wasnt a good shooter...great scorer
-
Guys keep the discussion on Rysheed please. I could probably take out about 4 pages of nonsense in this thread and I really don't want to do that.
Ok Dave, do we still have a shot at Jordon, and when the answer turns to no can we dump the thread? When you really wanting a player ya keep checking in only to find that it looks like you ended up on the UCLA thread.
-
Jordan is UCLA's to lose. The only way Jordan comes here is if UCLA goes in another direction which is unlikely otherwise he's LA bound
-
Jordan is UCLA's to lose. The only way Jordan comes here is if UCLA goes in another direction which is unlikely otherwise he's LA bound
Dave - what if the whacko's are right, and Ben Howland is fired (or forced to resign)? There are only so many coaches with the track record of Howland and Lavin for getting guys who play PG for them to the NBA (Lavin 4 in his last 10 years, Howland 7 in his last 12) - and the couple that do ain't likely leaving their current gigs. Gotta think this kid is aware of those numbers - his final 3 (hometown plus those 2) can't really be a coincidence. The whacko's are fully convinced Donovan will leave Florida, or Pitino will leave Louisville, drooling over a job where 3 final 4s in 7 years gets you fired - but it's more likely a repeat of 1989 when they canned Walt Hazzard fully expecting Denny Crum to leave Louisville, or Larry Brown to come begging for a return contract - and we ended up with the SIXTH coach we offered - Pepperdine's head coach. Granted 7 years later thay yielded a National Championship with Jim Harrick - but that's the equivalent of getting say, Seth Greenberg and praying for a 2nd miracle. Not exactly a lightening rod for a recruit like Rysheed.
My apologies to jr49, who's not looking for a UCLA thread, but in THIS case, it's pretty germaine.....
-
Article on last night's playoff game, no reference to SJU staff presence. Jordan had only four points.
http://www.delcotimes.com/articles/2013/03/09/sports/high_school/doc513ac3b70f0d8491363646.txt?viewmode=fullstory (http://www.delcotimes.com/articles/2013/03/09/sports/high_school/doc513ac3b70f0d8491363646.txt?viewmode=fullstory)
-
Article on last night's playoff game, no reference to SJU staff presence. Jordan had only four points.
http://www.delcotimes.com/articles/2013/03/09/sports/high_school/doc513ac3b70f0d8491363646.txt?viewmode=fullstory (http://www.delcotimes.com/articles/2013/03/09/sports/high_school/doc513ac3b70f0d8491363646.txt?viewmode=fullstory)
If the staff is not bothering to show up on a playoff game, that should tell you all you need to know
-
Jordan is UCLA's to lose. The only way Jordan comes here is if UCLA goes in another direction which is unlikely otherwise he's LA bound
Do you think the staff tries to add another guard for 2013-'14? Or will they just go w/ what is already on the roster
-
Article on last night's playoff game, no reference to SJU staff presence. Jordan had only four points.
http://www.delcotimes.com/articles/2013/03/09/sports/high_school/doc513ac3b70f0d8491363646.txt?viewmode=fullstory (http://www.delcotimes.com/articles/2013/03/09/sports/high_school/doc513ac3b70f0d8491363646.txt?viewmode=fullstory)
If the staff is not bothering to show up on a playoff game, that should tell you all you need to know
May not mean anything. A local paper for losing team may not have interest. Was told we would be there. If not, agree with you.
-
Jordan is UCLA's to lose. The only way Jordan comes here is if UCLA goes in another direction which is unlikely otherwise he's LA bound
So what is he waiting for? The longer he drags this out the more likely someone else pops for UCLA. Just waiting on his season to end?
-
Jordan is UCLA's to lose. The only way Jordan comes here is if UCLA goes in another direction which is unlikely otherwise he's LA bound
So what is he waiting for? The longer he drags this out the more likely someone else pops for UCLA. Just waiting on his season to end?
That would be my question unless he is just waiting on Howland to make sure he returns.
-
If Dixon ends up leaving for some reason, Howland will be contacted. And he might just think about going back after all the crap he has to endure at UCLA.
-
If Dixon ends up leaving for some reason, Howland will be contacted. And he might just think about going back after all the crap he has to endure at UCLA.
Has that ever happened before?
-
If Dixon ends up leaving for some reason, Howland will be contacted. And he might just think about going back after all the crap he has to endure at UCLA.
Wow -I dunno. Pitt was really p!sssed when Ben walked out on his new contract in '2003, and notified the team by PHONE.
-
Jordan was at the Temple game today per his twitter.
Again he attends their games regularly.
-
Next game tomorrow night 2 hours from Philly. Lavs just gave EZ Pass device to Chiles.
-
Remembers us :)
“@sheedjordan: Nova vs St. John.”
-
C'Mon down!!!!!
:coolsmiley:
-
Getting Rysheed would be a boost to the program's mental state at this point. If he has any games between now and Sunday we need to be holed up in Philadelphia, 3 coaches at a time.
-
We aren't getting this kid. Period. I would like to add aguard though, but the staff seems to have zero on the radar.
-
Getting Rysheed would be a boost to the program's mental state at this point. If he has any games between now and Sunday we need to be holed up in Philadelphia, 3 coaches at a time.
He plays tomorrow. If staff can't make it, perhaps Dave Lipscomb can go. He has been recruiting well in practice. Sheez!
-
We aren't getting this kid. Period. I would like to add aguard though, but the staff seems to have zero on the radar.
Sneak in and snatch Severe maybe ?
-
We aren't getting this kid. Period. I would like to add aguard though, but the staff seems to have zero on the radar.
They technically don't have a scholarship and who do you want them to zero in on that is going to somehow come in as a freshmen and be better then what they have assuming it is not Jordan?
-
We aren't getting this kid. Period. I would like to add aguard though, but the staff seems to have zero on the radar.
They technically don't have a scholarship and who do you want them to zero in on that is going to somehow come in as a freshmen and be better then what they have assuming it is not Jordan?
Details Fordham...details.. ;)
-
We aren't getting this kid. Period. I would like to add aguard though, but the staff seems to have zero on the radar.
They technically don't have a scholarship and who do you want them to zero in on that is going to somehow come in as a freshmen and be better then what they have assuming it is not Jordan?
At this point, I don't know. But they should have been looking all fall and winter for another guard. To think we couldn't have found an impact player is silly.
-
We aren't getting this kid. Period. I would like to add aguard though, but the staff seems to have zero on the radar.
They technically don't have a scholarship and who do you want them to zero in on that is going to somehow come in as a freshmen and be better then what they have assuming it is not Jordan?
At this point, I don't know. But they should have been looking all fall and winter for another guard. To think we couldn't have found an impact player is silly.
You just answered my question. You don't know what they did. Not signing someone early is not evidence they weren't looking. And with a full roster there isn't much room.
Apparently you think it is that easy.
And they are targeting Jordan. They may not land him but there are only so many each year SJU is not Kentucky.
You really think this team coming back, with Sanchez and presumably Harrison and everyone else a year older doesn't have impact players? Come on with this nonsense.
I am frustrated too but too often too many of you use your frustration as an excuse to make ridiculous posts.
-
We aren't getting this kid. Period. I would like to add aguard though, but the staff seems to have zero on the radar.
They technically don't have a scholarship and who do you want them to zero in on that is going to somehow come in as a freshmen and be better then what they have assuming it is not Jordan?
At this point, I don't know. But they should have been looking all fall and winter for another guard. To think we couldn't have found an impact player is silly.
I am frustrated too but too often too many of you use your frustration as an excuse to make ridiculous posts.
Pretty much sums it up.
-
We aren't getting this kid. Period. I would like to add aguard though, but the staff seems to have zero on the radar.
They technically don't have a scholarship and who do you want them to zero in on that is going to somehow come in as a freshmen and be better then what they have assuming it is not Jordan?
At this point, I don't know. But they should have been looking all fall and winter for another guard. To think we couldn't have found an impact player is silly.
You just answered my question. You don't know what they did. Not signing someone early is not evidence they weren't looking. And with a full roster there isn't much room.
Apparently you think it is that easy.
And they are targeting Jordan. They may not land him but there are only so many each year SJU is not Kentucky.
You really think this team coming back, with Sanchez and presumably Harrison and everyone else a year older doesn't have impact players? Come on with this nonsense.
I am frustrated too but too often too many of you use your frustration as an excuse to make ridiculous posts.
On point...
-
Tonight
Church Farm (24-6) vs. Roberts Vaux (21-8), 7:30 p.m. at La Salle High. Aondofa Anyam and the Griffins will find the going tough against Rysheed Jordan and the Cougars. Pick: Vaux, 66-47.
-
Tonight
Church Farm (24-6) vs. Roberts Vaux (21-8), 7:30 p.m. at La Salle High. Aondofa Anyam and the Griffins will find the going tough against Rysheed Jordan and the Cougars. Pick: Vaux, 66-47.
Hope we are front & center
-
Size: 6-3/175 |
Quick Take: Rysheed Jordan is down to St. John’s, Temple and UCLA. His travel team coach – Kamal Yard – had been adamant that Jordan wouldn’t decide until after his senior season. I think Jordan is waiting to see what happens in Westwood with Ben Howland. To go with that, he’s also trying to decide if he wants to stay close to home or move away. Jordan hasn’t set a date for a college choice
http://scouthoops.scout.com/2/1274878.html (http://scouthoops.scout.com/2/1274878.html)
Nothing new but Evan Daniels reviews the top players still on the board including Rysheed.
-
Size: 6-3/175 |
Quick Take: Rysheed Jordan is down to St. John’s, Temple and UCLA. His travel team coach – Kamal Yard – had been adamant that Jordan wouldn’t decide until after his senior season. I think Jordan is waiting to see what happens in Westwood with Ben Howland. To go with that, he’s also trying to decide if he wants to stay close to home or move away. Jordan hasn’t set a date for a college choice
http://scouthoops.scout.com/2/1274878.html (http://scouthoops.scout.com/2/1274878.html)
Nothing new but Evan Daniels reviews the top players still on the board including Rysheed.
Does he review Ootowah?
-
Please Change the title to Rysheed Jordan - PG - Vaux Roberts = Philadelphia, PA - ANYONE OTHER THAN ST JOHNS.
You should probably do that for every recruit forever...
You people are coocoo for Cocoa Puffs...
-
Good
“@ozoneinq: St. John's coach Steve Lavin on hand at La Salle high to see Rysheed Jordan @sheedjordan and Vaux at 7:30 p.m. #StJohns”
-
Recruiting him for USC ;)
-
Recruiting him for USC ;)
Plenty of ships to use ;)
-
Good
“@ozoneinq: St. John's coach Steve Lavin on hand at La Salle high to see Rysheed Jordan @sheedjordan and Vaux at 7:30 p.m. #StJohns”
Lavin apparently has not gotten the memo that he is headed to UCLA.
And no Moose he only reviewed ranked players.
-
Good
“@ozoneinq: St. John's coach Steve Lavin on hand at La Salle high to see Rysheed Jordan @sheedjordan and Vaux at 7:30 p.m. #StJohns”
And right after he retweets a Temple fan who says " St John's booooo ". Lavin is coming back with a cheesesteak only .
-
Recruiting him for USC ;)
Plenty of ships to use ;)
for him there is one
-
Good
“@ozoneinq: St. John's coach Steve Lavin on hand at La Salle high to see Rysheed Jordan @sheedjordan and Vaux at 7:30 p.m. #StJohns”
And right after he retweets a Temple fan who says " St John's booooo ". Lavin is coming back with a cheesesteak only .
Happy I don't think that means anything.
Lavin being there kind of confirms what I was told a few days ago that Jordan to UCLA is not a done deal. Lots of pull to stay East.
-
Good
“@ozoneinq: St. John's coach Steve Lavin on hand at La Salle high to see Rysheed Jordan @sheedjordan and Vaux at 7:30 p.m. #StJohns”
And right after he retweets a Temple fan who says " St John's booooo ". Lavin is coming back with a cheesesteak only .
Tell a kid the sky is green on twitter and they will retweet it.
-
Good
“@ozoneinq: St. John's coach Steve Lavin on hand at La Salle high to see Rysheed Jordan @sheedjordan and Vaux at 7:30 p.m. #StJohns”
And right after he retweets a Temple fan who says " St John's booooo ". Lavin is coming back with a cheesesteak only .
Tell a kid the sky is green on twitter and they will retweet it.
Hey take it easy guys. Nothing wrong with a bringing home a Philly cheesesteak :)
-
Good
“@ozoneinq: St. John's coach Steve Lavin on hand at La Salle high to see Rysheed Jordan @sheedjordan and Vaux at 7:30 p.m. #StJohns”
And right after he retweets a Temple fan who says " St John's booooo ". Lavin is coming back with a cheesesteak only .
Tell a kid the sky is green on twitter and they will retweet it.
Hey take it easy guys. Nothing wrong with a bringing home a Philly cheesesteak :)
If it can shoot. Ha!
-
Good
“@ozoneinq: St. John's coach Steve Lavin on hand at La Salle high to see Rysheed Jordan @sheedjordan and Vaux at 7:30 p.m. #StJohns”
And right after he retweets a Temple fan who says " St John's booooo ". Lavin is coming back with a cheesesteak only .
Tell a kid the sky is green on twitter and they will retweet it.
Hey take it easy guys. Nothing wrong with a bringing home a Philly cheesesteak :)
Geno's or Pat's?
-
Good
“@ozoneinq: St. John's coach Steve Lavin on hand at La Salle high to see Rysheed Jordan @sheedjordan and Vaux at 7:30 p.m. #StJohns”
And right after he retweets a Temple fan who says " St John's booooo ". Lavin is coming back with a cheesesteak only .
Tell a kid the sky is green on twitter and they will retweet it.
Hey take it easy guys. Nothing wrong with a bringing home a Philly cheesesteak :)
Geno's or Pat's?
No respectful cheesesteak lover likes either one. You go to Jim's when you are in Philly :)
-
Good
“@ozoneinq: St. John's coach Steve Lavin on hand at La Salle high to see Rysheed Jordan @sheedjordan and Vaux at 7:30 p.m. #StJohns”
And right after he retweets a Temple fan who says " St John's booooo ". Lavin is coming back with a cheesesteak only .
Tell a kid the sky is green on twitter and they will retweet it.
Hey take it easy guys. Nothing wrong with a bringing home a Philly cheesesteak :)
Geno's or Pat's?
No respectful cheesesteak lover likes either one. You go to Jim's when you are in Philly :)
Agree on Jim's. Wit onions...
BTW-Lavin is apparently trying to make an impression. He showed up for the Vaux game 90 minutes before the start of the game. Probably left early to make sure he didn't get caught up in traffic...LOL!!!
Jeff McDevitt
@JeffMcDev 3h
Apparently St. John's HC Steve Lavin is in the building, a full 90 minutes before the scheduled start of the Vaux game.
https://twitter.com/JeffMcDev/status/312692653710008320
Apparently Vaux up comfortably.
-
Rick O'Brien @ozoneinq
Vaux leads Church Farm, 49-38, at end of third quarter; @sheedjordan with only 3 points for Cougars. Steve Lavin sitting behind Vaux bench.
-
“@ozoneinq: Final: Vaux 68, Church Farm 64.”
Another game to go to.
“@ozoneinq: Vaux will take on Math, Civics and Sciences Charter Tuesday in a semifinal at a neutral site and time to be determined.”
-
Lavs putting in work tonight.
-
Rick O’Brien, INQUIRER STAFF WRITER
POSTED: Saturday, March 16, 2013, 4:32 AM
With St. John's coach Steve Lavin watching from behind the Vaux bench, Rysheed Jordan opted to be more of a facilitator than a scorer.
"He was playing off us more than anything," Cougars senior swingman Lester Mattox said. "That's nothing new. He does that all the time."
With the 6-foot-4 senior phenom looking for Mattox and others, Vaux fought past Church Farm, 68-64, Friday night in a PIAA Class A boys' quarterfinal at La Salle High.
Jordan, who also is considering Temple and UCLA, settled for nine points. His first field-goal try in second half came with 5 minutes, 40 seconds to play.
"He's a patient player," Church Farm coach Marc Turner said. "He understood we weren't going to give him the driving lanes. He did what a great guard does, which is look for the open guy."
Amir Butler, a 6-2, 200-pound senior forward, paced the Cougars (22-8) with 17 points, Mattox drained four first-half three-pointers en route to 14 points.
"At the beginning of the year, I was making a lot of threes," Mattox said. "Before this, I was in a slump. My shot is starting to fall again."
Tuesday, at a neutral site and time to be determined, Vaux will clash with Math, Civics & Sciences in a semifinal. The Mighty Elephants played poorly but eliminated Sankofa Freedom Academy, 71-59, in the first game at La Salle.
Vaux, ranked No. 5 in Southeastern Pennsylvania by The Inquirer, and No. 6 MC&S split meetings during the regular season. The winner of the rubber match will punch a ticket to Hershey.
"I'm anxious for the rematch," Butler said. "We just have to play hard and do the things we did last time."
The Cougars prevailed, 62-61, last month in the Public League Class A championship game.
Against Church Farm, Vaux led by as many as 17 in the first half and were in front, 41-25, at the break. Mattox nailed four threes in the first 11 minutes.
Junior guard Tyler Ofray paced the Griffins (24-7) with 17 points, including four threes. Mlynue Reeves, a 6-7 senior forward, was next with 10
Vaux 14 27 8 19 – 68
Church Farm 15 10 13 26 – 64
V: Rysheed Jordan 9, Amir Butler 17, Trayvond Massenberg 9, Lester Mattox 14, Sammy Foreman 7, Karon Snead 6, Daron Johnson 6.
CF: Aondofa Anyam 2, Michael Mohamed 5, Larry Cermak 10, Jan Bohm 6, Joey Shelton 3, Tyler Ofray 17, John Rodriguez 8, Mlynue Reeves 13.
Contact Rick O'Brien at robrien@phillynews.com. Follow @ozoneinq on Twitter. Read his blog, "The O'Zone," at www.philly.com/ozone (http://www.philly.com/ozone)
-
For what we need the assists for Jordan last night were far more impressive. I believe we are out... But coach going last night says we at least have a shot.
-
Ive never believed were out of it. Looks at Obekpas recruitment, kind of the same feel.
-
Lavin usually doesn't waste time with a kid if he thinks he has no shot at landing him. This is promising IMO.
-
"In the nightcap, Vaux defeated Church Farm School 68-64.
The area’s leading scorer, Rysheed Jordan, was feeling sick during the game with a head cold, and his sickness caused him to take a backseat on the offensive game.
Jordan’s teammates, namely Amir Butler and Lester Maddox, shouldered the offensive load.
In the second quarter, Maddox hit four straight 3-point shots during a 20-4 run that gave the Cougars a 16 point halftime lead. Maddox finished with 14 points.
“I was looking to get everybody involved and play defense. When our big man is on the bench, we have three guys who can handle the ball and two that can shoot, so I just drive and kick and they’ll be wide open,” Jordan said.
Jordan scored six of his nine points at the free-throw line in the last two minutes, putting the game on ice and advancing the Cougars to the semifinals."
“@jmverlin: So the Philly college teams had a rough day, but Vaux + MCS both moved on to the state semifinals: http://cityofbasketballlove.com/2013/03/vaux-and-mcs-win-set-up-eagerly-anticipated-rubber-match/ (http://cityofbasketballlove.com/2013/03/vaux-and-mcs-win-set-up-eagerly-anticipated-rubber-match/)”
-
It can't be a bad sign that coach was on hand.
But he was also hosting KA a week before he announced, and visiting Lawrence up until he bounced to Cincy. So I can't read too much into this.
-
It can't be a bad sign that coach was on hand.
But he was also hosting KA a week before he announced, and visiting Lawrence up until he bounced to Cincy. So I can't read too much into this.
On life support or still in the game? Btw, where is my main man Andy Desco?
-
Semis on Tuesday;
Math, Civics and Sciences (12-2) vs. Roberts Vaux (12-1), at Ben Franklin High, 6 p.m.
-
We should all just be hoping for a first round Howland exit from the NCAA tourney.
-
Recruiting Jordan but no scholarship available ...
-
Recruiting Jordan but no scholarship available ...
This approach has served Louisville quite well over the last several seasons.
-
Recruiting Jordan but no scholarship available ...
This approach has served Louisville quite well over the last several seasons.
If Jordan signs, I'll drive Gift to Harvard myself.
-
We should all just be hoping for a first round Howland exit from the NCAA tourney.
UCLA drops down to a 6 seed and draws Minnesota in the 1st round. That's a tough draw. UCLA exits early, Howland gets canned, and Rysheed comes to the Johnnies?
-
UCLA drops down to a 6 seed and draws Minnesota in the 1st round. That's a tough draw. UCLA exits early, Howland gets canned, and Rysheed comes to the Johnnies?
Yes, please...fingers crossed!
-
UCLA is crazy if they fire Howland. I'm not saying they won't, they might.
But 3 Final Fours in a decade? Come on.
You can't win with mostly freshmen. No matter how talented. UCLA and Kentucky are proving that this year.
But if that's what gets us Jordan I won't complain of course :coolsmiley:
-
UCLA is crazy if they fire Howland. I'm not saying they won't, they might.
But 3 Final Fours in a decade? Come on.
You can't win with mostly freshmen. No matter how talented. UCLA and Kentucky are proving that this year.
But if that's what gets us Jordan I won't complain of course :coolsmiley:
Shhhh... no logic please (if it works against us)
-
“@sheedjordan: 👈👈👈 have 29 more days to commit”
“@TheRecruitScoop: 2013 Vaux (PA) guard Rysheed Jordan will make his college decision on April 15th between UCLA, Temple & St. John's.”
-
“@sheedjordan: 👈👈👈 have 29 more days to commit”
So we can circle Monday April 15th?
I don't know why people think Howland is in trouble even if he loses to Minny.
-
“@sheedjordan: 👈👈👈 have 29 more days to commit”
So we can circle Monday April 15th?
I don't know why people think Howland is in trouble even if he loses to Minny.
Bruin Scout Board Mod posted this morning supposedly a nearly done deal with replacement in place. Lead recruiting guru there opined it could happen as soon this coming weekend after the Bruins lose in the dance. Nice the faith these guys have in the team and players. Not if the Bruins lose - WHEN they lose in the first round.
-
“@sheedjordan: 👈👈👈 have 29 more days to commit”
So we can circle Monday April 15th?
I don't know why people think Howland is in trouble even if he loses to Minny.
Bruin Scout Board Mod posted this morning supposedly a nearly done deal with replacement in place. Lead recruiting guru there opined it could happen as soon this coming weekend after the Bruins lose in the dance. Nice the faith these guys have in the team and players. Not if the Bruins lose - WHEN they lose in the first round.
Who's the replacement? Thought you got banned from that board :)
-
“@sheedjordan: 👈👈👈 have 29 more days to commit”
So we can circle Monday April 15th?
I don't know why people think Howland is in trouble even if he loses to Minny.
I'm just hoping we get Jordan. I think we all know how fickle the UCLA fans can be. They'll run Howland out if he's one and done i think. They'll try at least.
-
We should not forget Temple if UCLA implodes. This kid is really playing this close to the vest.
-
We should not forget Temple if UCLA implodes. This kid is really playing this close to the vest.
I was thinking the same thing Paultz.
I know people have said he's a UCLA lean or lock. But with or without Howland I wouldn't be surprised if he stayed home.
All along he's talked about the pull of staying in Philly.
-
“@sheedjordan: 👈👈👈 have 29 more days to commit”
So we can circle Monday April 15th?
I don't know why people think Howland is in trouble even if he loses to Minny.
Bruin Scout Board Mod posted this morning supposedly a nearly done deal with replacement in place. Lead recruiting guru there opined it could happen as soon this coming weekend after the Bruins lose in the dance. Nice the faith these guys have in the team and players. Not if the Bruins lose - WHEN they lose in the first round.
Who's the replacement? Thought you got banned from that board :)
I just looked at the UCLA board, try not to laugh ..... Billy Donovan.
-
I don't mean to be the jinx, but I have UCLA as a darkhorse Final Four pick. They are a very dangerous team and they have as much talent as anyone. Call me crazy. My Final Four is L'Ville, Cuse, Wisconsin, and UCLA.
-
Losing Adams hurts big time
-
Not saying they aren't talented, but it's hard to win several games in a row with a 6 man rotation.
-
“@sheedjordan: 👈👈👈 have 29 more days to commit”
So we can circle Monday April 15th?
I don't know why people think Howland is in trouble even if he loses to Minny.
Bruin Scout Board Mod posted this morning supposedly a nearly done deal with replacement in place. Lead recruiting guru there opined it could happen as soon this coming weekend after the Bruins lose in the dance. Nice the faith these guys have in the team and players. Not if the Bruins lose - WHEN they lose in the first round.
Who's the replacement? Thought you got banned from that board :)
Bruin Scout board (Bruin Report Online, or "BRO") info was posted on the free Bruinzone.Com fan forum (as well as others. And I still get emailed updates from other posters on threads they think I'll be interested in.
Note - I try to NEVER post anything from a Premium or paid board, until I also see the same info on a free board or news report somewhere. And it's very seldom you can't find that info reprinted on a public forum within a few minutes or so of the original post! :)
-
I don't mean to be the jinx, but I have UCLA as a darkhorse Final Four pick. They are a very dangerous team and they have as much talent as anyone. Call me crazy. My Final Four is L'Ville, Cuse, Wisconsin, and UCLA.
no creighton ? :)
-
I don't mean to be the jinx, but I have UCLA as a darkhorse Final Four pick. They are a very dangerous team and they have as much talent as anyone. Call me crazy. My Final Four is L'Ville, Cuse, Wisconsin, and UCLA.
no creighton ? :)
:knuppel2:
Hah. Believe it or not I have them beating Cincy. They are a relatively easy draw...Cincy is a very beatable team that lost to us and Providence. But no way they get out of the 2nd round vs. Duke.
-
“@sheedjordan: 👈👈👈 have 29 more days to commit”
“@TheRecruitScoop: 2013 Vaux (PA) guard Rysheed Jordan will make his college decision on April 15th between UCLA, Temple & St. John's.”
This is now the 5th date that we have heard he will announce?
-
“@sheedjordan: 👈👈👈 have 29 more days to commit”
“@TheRecruitScoop: 2013 Vaux (PA) guard Rysheed Jordan will make his college decision on April 15th between UCLA, Temple & St. John's.”
This is now the 5th date that we have heard he will announce?
5th might be generous.
-
“@sheedjordan: 👈👈👈 have 29 more days to commit”
“@TheRecruitScoop: 2013 Vaux (PA) guard Rysheed Jordan will make his college decision on April 15th between UCLA, Temple & St. John's.”
This is now the 5th date that we have heard he will announce?
This is the beginning of signing period. Rest assured this will be an ESPNU "hat job".
-
“@sheedjordan: 👈👈👈 have 29 more days to commit”
“@TheRecruitScoop: 2013 Vaux (PA) guard Rysheed Jordan will make his college decision on April 15th between UCLA, Temple & St. John's.”
This is now the 5th date that we have heard he will announce?
This is the beginning of signing period. Rest assured this will be an ESPNU "hat job".
Right before it, Spring Period begins 4/17.
Bill Plaschke of the LA Times picks up on the rumors that Howland's fate nay already be sealed.
http://touch.latimes.com/#section/-1/article/p2p-74864022/ (http://touch.latimes.com/#section/-1/article/p2p-74864022/)
-
Haven't really been following, but are you guys saying that if UCLA exits early from the tourney the coach gets fired and as a result it may turn Jordan away from them?
-
Haven't really been following, but are you guys saying that if UCLA exits early from the tourney the coach gets fired and as a result it may turn Jordan away from them?
Players commit to coaches. If Howland isn't there, have to think he'd lean towards his other favorites where he has a relationship with the coaches.
-
Kyle Anderson to Seton Hall.
-
Kyle Anderson to Seton Hall.
The moderators on the SHU site have the odds assuming Howland gets fired:
1) He transfers to SHU 95.3 %
2) Stays at UCLA 2.7%
3) Goes pro 2.0%
-
Maybe Kyle could just go work for Adidas if Howland gets fired.
-
Maybe Kyle could just go work for Adidas if Howland gets fired.
He could go to the NBDL and play for the Idaho team.......
-
Better dribbling Sean Evans.
-
Kyle Anderson to Seton Hall.
The moderators on the SHU site have the odds assuming Howland gets fired:
1) He transfers to SHU 95.3 %
2) Stays at UCLA 2.7%
3) Goes pro 2.0%
#1 is career suicide... He should go with #2 or #3...
Seriously though, with the weak draft I can see him possibly declaring, especially if Howland goes. He and his father think/know he's a pro. kid certainly has skills, and would get drafted somewhere, but I don't see those two being convinced otherwise of something if they get it in their head.
-
Maybe Kyle could just go work for Adidas if Howland gets fired.
He kind of does already in a way.... ;)
-
Is it heresy to suggest That Chiles attend Jordan's game on Tues. at 6? I have seen it done in regular season, but not tourneys. Is it worth it or meaningless?
-
Kyle Anderson to Seton Hall.
The moderators on the SHU site have the odds assuming Howland gets fired:
1) He transfers to SHU 95.3 %
2) Stays at UCLA 2.7%
3) Goes pro 2.0%
#1 is career suicide... He should go with #2 or #3...
Seriously though, with the weak draft I can see him possibly declaring, especially if Howland goes. He and his father think/know he's a pro. kid certainly has skills, and would get drafted somewhere, but I don't see those two being convinced otherwise of something if they get it in their head.
Marcus,
You understand I was joking right??? LOL!!!
BTW-SHU fans cry everyday over Kyle choosing UCLA. But how would you feel to be DePaul? Shane Larkin was ENROLLED at DePaul. Look how good he is at Miami.
Kid is a Wooden finalist and to me if there was choice between him and Kyle I would take Shane without blinking. Of course Shane is a year older. He has said he is coming back to Miami.
-
UCLA fans make ours look sane...not an easy task.
Does the Adams injury give Howland a reprieve if they do lose though?
-
UCLA fans make ours look sane...not an easy task.
Does the Adams injury give Howland a reprieve if they do lose though?
Howland's bigger problem maybe stylistic more then anything.
The fan base and the money people are simply not thrilled with his Pitt style/Big East style defense first, halfcourt offense type of philosophy. His struggles recently provide a convenient excuse/cover to fire a guy who they never really embraced even when he was making Final Four's.
-
I know fans have thrown Billy Donovan's name out there, but I really can't see him being interested, and I think Mark Few isn't a big-city guy. What other coaches are sexy enough for the fan base there? I personally think Lon Kuger's style would be embraced there after some initial fan whining, but last I checked I'm not on any potential search committees.
-
I know fans have thrown Billy Donovan's name out there, but I really can't see him being interested, and I think Mark Few isn't a big-city guy. What other coaches are sexy enough for the fan base there? I personally think Lon Kuger's style would be embraced there after some initial fan whining, but last I checked I'm not on any potential search committees.
Steve Lavin
-
I know fans have thrown Billy Donovan's name out there, but I really can't see him being interested, and I think Mark Few isn't a big-city guy. What other coaches are sexy enough for the fan base there? I personally think Lon Kuger's style would be embraced there after some initial fan whining, but last I checked I'm not on any potential search committees.
Again assuming Howland is let go:
My guess is Few is their first call and should be.
The next call and this is just a guess would be someone like Shaka Smart or Brad Stevens. Now they have been offered good jobs, better jobs for more money and have turned them down in the past. But UCLA is a top 5 type of job. It is the type of job that coaches who work at VCU and Butler just don't normally turn down.
Kruger is too old at this point and he is got Larry Brown syndrome. Great coach though.
-
I don't see Stevens in LA.
-
don't know if this had been mentioned or not.
"Meantime, the 6-4 Jordan out of Philly Vaux Roberts announced his decision date on Twitter.
“Ima make the biggest choice in my life on 4/15/13 #thedayicommittocollege.”
Jordan is down to St. John’s, Temple and UCLA. St. John’s coach Steve Lavin watched Jordan play last Friday.
The NCAA late signing period runs April 17-May 15."
http://zagsblog.com/articles/frazier-jordan-set-decision-dates/ (http://zagsblog.com/articles/frazier-jordan-set-decision-dates/)
-
UCLA fans make ours look sane...not an easy task.
Does the Adams injury give Howland a reprieve if they do lose though?
Howland's bigger problem maybe stylistic more then anything.
The fan base and the money people are simply not thrilled with his Pitt style/Big East style defense first, halfcourt offense type of philosophy. His struggles recently provide a convenient excuse/cover to fire a guy who they never really embraced even when he was making Final Four's.
Of course, UCLA did lead the Pac 12 in scoring this year. :)
-
I know fans have thrown Billy Donovan's name out there, but I really can't see him being interested, and I think Mark Few isn't a big-city guy. What other coaches are sexy enough for the fan base there? I personally think Lon Kuger's style would be embraced there after some initial fan whining, but last I checked I'm not on any potential search committees.
Again assuming Howland is let go:
My guess is Few is their first call and should be.
The next call and this is just a guess would be someone like Shaka Smart or Brad Stevens. Now they have been offered good jobs, better jobs for more money and have turned them down in the past. But UCLA is a top 5 type of job. It is the type of job that coaches who work at VCU and Butler just don't normally turn down.
Kruger is too old at this point and he is got Larry Brown syndrome. Great coach though.
How about Steve Alford. Hes done amazing things in New Mexico and moving from Mountain West to Pac 12 wouldnt be a big jump at all because the MWC has been the far superior conference the last couple years
-
Where does the scholarship come from?
-
I know people say Mark Few or Brad Stevens don't seem like guys who want the UCLA job, but I'm sure they would have to consider it.
No matter how successful they are at Gonzaga and Butler, they will never be paid the $3 million+ that guys like Calipari, Izzo, Self, Pitino make.
And $1.5 compared to 3 or 3.5, is not splitting hairs. That's real money.
-
Stevens signed a 12 year contract in 2010 that pays him 1.2 annually approx.
That some serious job security. He's only jumping for the perfect gig.
-
C'mon guys. We shouldn't have to keep asking. Please keep discussion on Rysheed Jordan....
-
"WILL THE third time still be the charm? That's the hope.
Only one of Tuesday night's four PIAA basketball semifinals involving District 12 teams will be played in the city, and it will feature a pair of Public League powers that split their first two matchups.
With a spot in Friday's Class A state final in Hershey on the line, Roberts Vaux will duel with Math, Civics and Sciences Charter at 6 p.m. at Ben Franklin High.
Meeting No. 1 took place Jan. 24. MC&S won, 74-70, in overtime, as center Quadir Welton (Saint Peter's signee) mixed 14 points with 19 rebounds, and guard Shafeek Taylor tallied 15 of his 24 points in the final 12 minutes.
On Feb. 16, in the Pub's A final, superguard Rysheed Jordan fueled Vaux' 62-61 success with 29 points, seven rebounds, five assists and four steals. (His totals in the first clash: 33, 11, two, three.)
Also Tuesday night, Imhotep and Archbishop Carroll will participate in different AAA semis, and St. Joseph's Prep will do battle in AAAA."
The schedule:
CLASS A SEMIFINAL
Vaux (12-1) vs. Math/Civics/Sciences (12-2), at Ben Franklin, 6
http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/high_school/pennsylvania/20130319_Vaux__MC_S_set_up_for_rubber_match.html (http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/high_school/pennsylvania/20130319_Vaux__MC_S_set_up_for_rubber_match.html)
-
First half. Looks like one more game for staff to attend if no conflicts;
“@JeffMcDev: Rysheed Jordan is playing like it's his last high school game in Philly, now with 9 Pts 5 reb 3 stl. Vaux leads 36-22. Sammy Foreman with 12”
“@matt_breen: Temple coach Fran Dunphy has arrived @pompeysgridlock”
-
“@JeffMcDev: End of 3rd: Vaux leads MCS 58-41. Rysheed Jordan has 16 and 8 reb. Sammy Foreman has 15.”
-
On to title game. Guess we won't likely have a scheduling conflict;
“@JeffMcDev: Vaux punches it's ticket to Hershey, blowing out MCS 83-66. Sammy Foreman with 26, Rysheed Jordan with 18 and 9 reb. Worthem has 18 for MCS.”
-
“@matt_breen: Rysheed Jordan said he noticed Dunphy in the stands "He comes to all my games, shows a lot of support"”
-
“@matt_breen: Rysheed Jordan said he noticed Dunphy in the stands "He comes to all my games, shows a lot of support"”
Hey 'Sheed. He should. He is from Philly
-
“@matt_breen: Rysheed Jordan said he noticed Dunphy in the stands "He comes to all my games, shows a lot of support"”
Hey 'Sheed. He should. He is from Philly
IMO,this kid is so wired to Philly that I strongly feel it's Temple. then again, I'm wrong now and then. Ha!
-
Finals Friday at 2pm in Hershey Pa.
-
I'm sure he noticed who got play of the night in his home state
On espn highlights!
#STJBB :D
-
“@matt_breen: Rysheed Jordan said he noticed Dunphy in the stands "He comes to all my games, shows a lot of support"”
Hey 'Sheed. He should. He is from Philly
IMO,this kid is so wired to Philly that I strongly feel it's Temple. then again, I'm wrong now and then. Ha!
Agree with you but then the other part of my brain says why didn't he already commit to Temple
-
“@matt_breen: Rysheed Jordan said he noticed Dunphy in the stands "He comes to all my games, shows a lot of support"”
Hey 'Sheed. He should. He is from Philly
IMO,this kid is so wired to Philly that I strongly feel it's Temple. then again, I'm wrong now and then. Ha!
Agree with you but then the other part of my brain says why didn't he already commit to Temple
Just my gut, but I can see him making televised announcement in Philly surrounded by his following to tell them he is staying home. Sheed, like many kids, likes maximum announcement exposure and he clearly loves his hometown. Perhaps the UCLA situation has worn thin with all the negatives floating around Howland. Again, I have zero info on this and am just speculating. That said, we have to consider ourselves in this and hopefully Lavin and Chiles trek to Hershey Friday.
-
“@matt_breen: Rysheed Jordan said he noticed Dunphy in the stands "He comes to all my games, shows a lot of support"”
Hey 'Sheed. He should. He is from Philly
IMO,this kid is so wired to Philly that I strongly feel it's Temple. then again, I'm wrong now and then. Ha!
Agree with you but then the other part of my brain says why didn't he already commit to Temple
Just my gut, but I can see him making televised announcement in Philly surrounded by his following to tell them he is staying home. Sheed, like many kids, likes maximum announcement exposure and he clearly loves his hometown. Perhaps the UCLA situation has worn thin with all the negatives floating around Howland. Again, I have zero info on this and am just speculating. That said, we have to consider ourselves in this and hopefully Lavin and Chiles trek to Hershey Friday.
We are clearly in this but in the end I don't think we land black jesus
He should announce on Easter Sunday rather than Tax Day 8)
-
The interesting thing will be when/if he has in-home visits.
Can't imagine why he wouldn't want them.
-
The interesting thing will be when/if he has in-home visits.
Can't imagine why he wouldn't want them.
It's funny that the in homes are not discussed much anymore, maybe a dying facet of the recruiting process.
-
God I hope UCLA loses today ;-)
-
Jordan's final game today. Hopefully staff attends
-
God I hope UCLA loses today ;-)
I have them losing to Minnesota.
-
God I hope UCLA loses today ;-)
I have them losing to Minnesota.
Minnesota is 3-7 over their last 10 games. I wouldn't have too much faith.
-
God I hope UCLA loses today ;-)
I have them losing to Minnesota.
Minnesota is 3-7 over their last 10 games. I wouldn't have too much faith.
Losing Jordan Adams really hurts though for UCLA
-
God I hope UCLA loses today ;-)
I have them losing to Minnesota.
Minnesota is 3-7 over their last 10 games. I wouldn't have too much faith.
Losing Jordan Adams really hurts though for UCLA
Yeah, it does. Any a lot of StJ fans are hoping Howland gets fired after a loss as well. If you look at Illinois down the stretch and in the Big 10 in general. They are middle of the pack or worse. I think UCLA got a gift.
-
God I hope UCLA loses today ;-)
I have them losing to Minnesota.
Minnesota is 3-7 over their last 10 games. I wouldn't have too much faith.
Losing Jordan Adams really hurts though for UCLA
Yeah, it does. Any a lot of StJ fans are hoping Howland gets fired after a loss as well. If you look at Illinois down the stretch and in the Big 10 in general. They are middle of the pack or worse. I think UCLA got a gift.
The Illini have beaten Gonzaga, Butler, Ohio State and Indiana. They are hot and cold, but capable of beating anyone, without exception. Also, it's a very experienced team. Big Ten is loaded. Even a middle of the pack squad could go to the FF.
-
Jordan's final game today. Hopefully staff attends
Jordan has 16 points, 4 rebounds and 2 steals and 1 assist at halftime. Vaux trails 37-36.
-
“@ozoneinq: Rysheed Jordan has 20 points, five rebounds, two steals, and two assists in 20 minutes. #Vaux”
-
“@ozoneinq: Roberts Vaux leads Johnsonburg, 61-50, with 7:14 left in the 4th QRT.”
“@ozoneinq: Vaux's Rysheed Jordan has 28 points, 5 rebounds, 3 assists, 3 steals and 1 block in 26 minutes. #Vaux #TUMB #Pub”
-
Up 66-52 and Johnsonburg kid just got T'd up.
Jordan having a huge game.
-
“@ozoneinq: Vaux's Rysheed Jordan @sheedjordan with 30 points, 5 rebounds, 3 assists, and 3 steals in 29 minutes. #Vaux”
-
Goes out a champ
“@ozoneinq: Roberts Vaux leads Johnsonburg, 79-61, with 1:00 left in the 4th QRT.”
-
Up big going to win State title. And it appears no one from SJU or Temple or UCLA will witness it.
From the STJ twitter account Lavin and co. have already landed in Virginia for the NIT game on Sunday. And with Temple and UCLA playing in the NCAA's obviously no one will be able to watch it or have anyone from SJU in Albany tonight.
-
“@ozoneinq: Final: Roberts Vaux 83, Johnsonburg 63. #Vaux”
-
I think we had someone there
-
I think we had someone there
Told Chiles would be there.
-
I think we had someone there
Told Chiles would be there.
I confirmed Tony was there. Apparently Lavin gave him a bus pass from Hershey to Charlottesville... ;)
-
I think we had someone there
Told Chiles would be there.
I confirmed Tony was there. Apparently Lavin gave him a bus pass from Hershey to Charlottesville... ;)
Hope he gets paid well. He seems to be all over the place.
-
Article on today's game.
Mentions that SJU, Temple and UCLA are his top 3 because he "loves" them.
http://highschoolsports.pennlive.com/news/article/-3146176904614943468/hs-boys-basketball-rysheed-jordan-sizzles-in-final-high-school-outing-leads-vaux-to-piaa-class-a-title/ (http://highschoolsports.pennlive.com/news/article/-3146176904614943468/hs-boys-basketball-rysheed-jordan-sizzles-in-final-high-school-outing-leads-vaux-to-piaa-class-a-title/)
-
Well, I like how UCLA is getting their doors blown off here in this game. Maybe it's enough to force Howland out and Rysheed lands our program. That would be a great break.
-
Well, I like how UCLA is getting their doors blown off here in this game. Maybe it's enough to force Howland out and Rysheed lands our program. That would be a great break.
A performance like this game is certainly not going to help Howland
-
Well, I like how UCLA is getting their doors blown off here in this game. Maybe it's enough to force Howland out and Rysheed lands our program. That would be a great break.
A performance like this game is certainly not going to help Howland
I can't see how Howland makes it past this one. Adams injured, Shabazz to NBA, Drew gone. Ucla fans will want his head. I think I hear the bell toll...
-
Gotta lock this kid up. UCLA flat out quit tonight. No one should want to play there at this point in time. Clearly, no one is.
-
Gotta lock this kid up. UCLA flat out quit tonight. No one should want to play there at this point in time. Clearly, no one is.
Well I can't see how Jordan chooses UCLA at this point. Howland's seat is on fire. Certainly can see Temple as an issue, but I'd prefer if Howland was canned and knocked out of it...
-
Even if, by some miracle, Howland survives this year, unless Rysheed envisions himself as one and done, he has to figure there will be a coaching chang at some point in his career at UCLA. Dunphy and Lavin aren't going anywhere.
-
Temple has a lot of congestion at the 1-3 spots the next few years. They return starting soph PG, Will Cummings, they already signed St. Anthony's PG, Josh Brown, for this class, and they return current freshmen Quinton Decosey and Daniel Dingle who will compete for minutes at the two and three.
-
Temple has a lot of congestion at the 1-3 spots the next few years. They return starting soph PG, Will Cummings, they already signed St. Anthony's PG, Josh Brown, for this class, and they return current freshmen Quinton Decosey and Daniel Dingle who will compete for minutes at the two and three.
Thought Dingle was more of a frontcourt guy no? Don't see those two competing for minutes.
-
Temple has a lot of congestion at the 1-3 spots the next few years. They return starting soph PG, Will Cummings, they already signed St. Anthony's PG, Josh Brown, for this class, and they return current freshmen Quinton Decosey and Daniel Dingle who will compete for minutes at the two and three.
Dingle will compete for minutes at the 2???????? Please
Aren't we just as congested at the 1-3
-
We only have one true 1, our best 2 will be gone in another year. Rysheed would get extensive minutes in our backcourt
-
We only have one true 1, our best 2 will be gone in another year. Rysheed would get extensive minutes in our backcourt
Of course we can use him but using the same logic that Marillac used for Temple we are clogged too. That is Moose's point it is ridiculous to suggest that any of the 3 don't have a need or room for a stud like Jordan.
-
Howland is getting fired tomorrow...multiple reports
Alex Kline @TheRecruitScoop 12m
UCLA will fire head coach Ben Howland on Sunday, multiple sources tells me.
Retweeted by Jon Rothstein
-
With the turmoil at UCLA, what do posters think is our percentage chance of getting Rysheed to come to St. John's?
20%?
30%?
50%?
More?
I have no idea really. We should be ideal for him in that we have a stacked front-court and we seemingly need help (especially if D'Lo ain't back) in the back-court. If Rysheed is as good as advertised, then he would get plenty of minutes here.
-
39.85%
-
let me start by saying i have no inside information.
I don't think we have much a chance with Rysheed. I've read some UCLA boards, this board, and all the articles, tweets and quotes for the last few months. With Howland getting fired, I don't necessarily think that UCLA is out of the question. Since he's not announcing until 4/16 he can wait and see the next hire, and if he's not a fan, he stays home at Temple. I really hope I'm wrong. I also was convinced last year that Obekpa was going to Cincy so track record aint the best either.
-
let me start by saying i have no inside information.
I don't think we have much a chance with Rysheed. I've read some UCLA boards, this board, and all the articles, tweets and quotes for the last few months. With Howland getting fired, I don't necessarily think that UCLA is out of the question. Since he's not announcing until 4/16 he can wait and see the next hire, and if he's not a fan, he stays home at Temple. I really hope I'm wrong. I also was convinced last year that Obekpa was going to Cincy so track record aint the best either.
No doubt. When UCLA pays big bucks for some dynamic CEO, Rysheed could easily sign up for it. However, Lavin is still pursuing him, so maybe Lavin smells blood in the water / an opportunity. Well, we'll find out what happens over the next three weeks. It's not a long wait.
-
let me start by saying i have no inside information.
I don't think we have much a chance with Rysheed. I've read some UCLA boards, this board, and all the articles, tweets and quotes for the last few months. With Howland getting fired, I don't necessarily think that UCLA is out of the question. Since he's not announcing until 4/16 he can wait and see the next hire, and if he's not a fan, he stays home at Temple. I really hope I'm wrong. I also was convinced last year that Obekpa was going to Cincy so track record aint the best either.
I think there's no doubt we have a chance. If we didn't we wouldn't still be sending people to his games. I also think Howland's firing does nothing but improve our chances.
-
Though recruits usually commit to coaches and assume the coach will be there if they commit, I still think there's a good chance he can end up at UCLA. Recruits don't always make smart or logical decisions...look at Lawrence. The kid downgrades the conference he will play in, joins a team on the decline that will lose arguably their best player before he gets there, and unless he's 1 and done he will be on a pretty bad Cincy team by the time he's a soph (no Kilpatrick). All this while he had a team in his backyard on the rise about to go all in to win big right when he would have arrived. I know this sounds stupid and maybe it is a little bit, but some recruits will choose the better weather school sometimes if everything else is pretty similar between 2 schools. Some want to go away and really experience that. With that said we have a chance even if it's slim...Jordan knows how to SCORE and that's exactly what we are desperate for. Getting him really would make things interesting next year.
-
I've felt since the summer that Jordan wasn't going to leave Philly.
But, what do I know? I was also pretty convinced Jermaine Lawrence would be a Johnnie.
-
I've felt since the summer that Jordan wasn't going to leave Philly.
But, what do I know? I was also pretty convinced Jermaine Lawrence would be a Johnnie.
The million dollar question is then why hasn't he popped for Temple yet.
-
With the turmoil at UCLA, what do posters think is our percentage chance of getting Rysheed to come to St. John's?
20%?
30%?
50%?
More?
I have no idea really. We should be ideal for him in that we have a stacked front-court and we seemingly need help (especially if D'Lo ain't back) in the back-court. If Rysheed is as good as advertised, then he would get plenty of minutes here.
We have a stacked front court for a year. By about this time next year Sanchez and Sampson will be gone.
-
I've felt since the summer that Jordan wasn't going to leave Philly.
But, what do I know? I was also pretty convinced Jermaine Lawrence would be a Johnnie.
The million dollar question is then why hasn't he popped for Temple yet.
Great question Moose lol. I used to think he was waiting for that 'big time' program to get involved. But then UCLA did, and he still didn't pop.
So, who knows. Maybe my intuition is in reverse, we lost out on Jermaine, but will sign Rhysheed. If we had no shot I can't believe tony and coach would still be chasing him.
-
I've felt since the summer that Jordan wasn't going to leave Philly.
But, what do I know? I was also pretty convinced Jermaine Lawrence would be a Johnnie.
The million dollar question is then why hasn't he popped for Temple yet.
Great question Moose lol. I used to think he was waiting for that 'big time' program to get involved. But then UCLA did, and he still didn't pop.
So, who knows. Maybe my intuition is in reverse, we lost out on Jermaine, but will sign Rhysheed. If we had no shot I can't believe tony and coach would still be chasing him.
I think he didn't pop for UCLA because it was common knowledge that Howland was on the hot seat. In that case a "wait and see" was smart. The fact that he didn't choose Temple to this point, I think is probably good for us. I feel better that Howland is out of it. Certainly he can still choose UCLA, but I think it is much less likely without the guy who recruited him at ucla. We'll have to wait, but I like our chances better now than I did before Howland was cut loose.
-
No one commits to a school without a coach.
-
With the turmoil at UCLA, what do posters think is our percentage chance of getting Rysheed to come to St. John's?
20%?
30%?
50%?
More?
I have no idea really. We should be ideal for him in that we have a stacked front-court and we seemingly need help (especially if D'Lo ain't back) in the back-court. If Rysheed is as good as advertised, then he would get plenty of minutes here.
We have a stacked front court for a year. By about this time next year Sanchez and Sampson will be gone.
We'll have Christian Jones coming back. ;)
-
Dave- where does Jordan turn with howland gone?
-
“@sheedjordan: @KhalifW05 letssss goooo”
-
“@sheedjordan: @KhalifW05 letssss goooo”
What is the context of that and what does it mean? I'm guessing he is rooting for Temple?
-
“@sheedjordan: @KhalifW05 letssss goooo”
What is the context of that and what does it mean? I'm guessing he is rooting for Temple?
And he retweeted someone who said something about STJ yesterday.
Tweet to him the sky is blue and he will retweet it. Stop relying on tweets to decipher what direction he's going. Him and all these kids savor the attention and will retweet anything.
-
“@sheedjordan: @KhalifW05 letssss goooo”
What is the context of that and what does it mean? I'm guessing he is rooting for Temple?
Just that he was enjoying his buddy, Khalif Wyatt going off for 20 v. IU in first half.
-
“@DaveTelep: Latest on Rysqheed Jordan ... blog coming @RecruitingESPN UCLA still alive?”
-
“@DaveTelep: Latest on Rysqheed Jordan ... blog coming @RecruitingESPN UCLA still alive?”
I really doubt it
-
FWIW, anyone?
“@DaveTelep: Rysheed Jordan Blog: UCLA remains on list. Why? How? http://insider.espn.go.com/blog/dave-telep/post?id=3345 (http://insider.espn.go.com/blog/dave-telep/post?id=3345)”
-
FWIW, anyone?
“@DaveTelep: Rysheed Jordan Blog: UCLA remains on list. Why? How? http://insider.espn.go.com/blog/dave-telep/post?id=3345 (http://insider.espn.go.com/blog/dave-telep/post?id=3345)”
Keeping them on list. Honestly talks about STJ as almost an afterthought IMO.
-
FWIW, anyone?
“@DaveTelep: Rysheed Jordan Blog: UCLA remains on list. Why? How? http://insider.espn.go.com/blog/dave-telep/post?id=3345 (http://insider.espn.go.com/blog/dave-telep/post?id=3345)”
Keeping them on list. Honestly talks about STJ as almost an afterthought IMO.
Thanks Moose,not surprised.
-
FWIW, anyone?
“@DaveTelep: Rysheed Jordan Blog: UCLA remains on list. Why? How? http://insider.espn.go.com/blog/dave-telep/post?id=3345 (http://insider.espn.go.com/blog/dave-telep/post?id=3345)”
Keeping them on list. Honestly talks about STJ as almost an afterthought IMO.
Coaches come and go but boosters and shoe deals are sticky
-
FWIW, anyone?
“@DaveTelep: Rysheed Jordan Blog: UCLA remains on list. Why? How? http://insider.espn.go.com/blog/dave-telep/post?id=3345 (http://insider.espn.go.com/blog/dave-telep/post?id=3345)”
Keeping them on list. Honestly talks about STJ as almost an afterthought IMO.
Thanks Moose,not surprised.
Not as an afterthought in terms of Rysheed. Rather in terms of the blog post. Is really all about UCLA. Still mentions interest in Temple and St. John's and notes that UCLA is probably in third place for Rysheed as of the moment mainly due to the AAU guy on Howland's staff (obviously that all changes depending on their new coach).
-
Eric Bossi column on some upcoming decisions:
http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1488325 (http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1488325)
Finally there's Jordan. The nation's top remaining point guard prospect, the 6-foot-4 senior has an excellent shot of moving up to five-star status when final rankings for the class of 2013 are done. For the latter half of his state title winning senior season, Jordan has been rumored to be leaning to UCLA. However, with Ben Howland out in Westwood, the Bruins are obviously at a significant disadvantage.
If they were indeed trailing as rumor had it, Temple and St. John's have to see a major opening to try and lock up Jordan. Jordan has been a frequent visitor to Temple games during the 2012-13 season and at St. John's the Red Storm should be returning a team full of long and athletic players with whom Jordan would fit in nicely. Steve Lavin and the Red Storm, much like UCLA, have also been a rumored leader at time. Can their stable of athletes trump playing for a hometown squad that has been very successful of late that has room for a new star to take over the departing Khalif Wyatt?
-
FWIW, anyone?
“@DaveTelep: Rysheed Jordan Blog: UCLA remains on list. Why? How? http://insider.espn.go.com/blog/dave-telep/post?id=3345 (http://insider.espn.go.com/blog/dave-telep/post?id=3345)”
Keeping them on list. Honestly talks about STJ as almost an afterthought IMO.
Thanks Moose,not surprised.
Not as an afterthought in terms of Rysheed. Rather in terms of the blog post. Is really all about UCLA. Still mentions interest in Temple and St. John's and notes that UCLA is probably in third place for Rysheed as of the moment mainly due to the AAU guy on Howland's staff (obviously that all changes depending on their new coach).
I agree. The article was based on UCLA, not on Temple or St. John's. Basically indicated that Rysheed was more interested in the school itself than the coach of the program.
Considering the schoo's coaching search might take some time, I find it hard to believe he signs on with somebody he's not comfortable with.
-
Eric Bossi column on some upcoming decisions:
http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1488325 (http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1488325)
Finally there's Jordan. The nation's top remaining point guard prospect, the 6-foot-4 senior has an excellent shot of moving up to five-star status when final rankings for the class of 2013 are done. For the latter half of his state title winning senior season, Jordan has been rumored to be leaning to UCLA. However, with Ben Howland out in Westwood, the Bruins are obviously at a significant disadvantage.
If they were indeed trailing as rumor had it, Temple and St. John's have to see a major opening to try and lock up Jordan. Jordan has been a frequent visitor to Temple games during the 2012-13 season and at St. John's the Red Storm should be returning a team full of long and athletic players with whom Jordan would fit in nicely. Steve Lavin and the Red Storm, much like UCLA, have also been a rumored leader at time. Can their stable of athletes trump playing for a hometown squad that has been very successful of late that has room for a new star to take over the departing Khalif Wyatt?
How many 5 star players aren't McDonalds AA's?
-
Does anyone still feel we have no shot landing Jordan? If so, why?
-
Eric Bossi column on some upcoming decisions:
http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1488325 (http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1488325)
Finally there's Jordan. The nation's top remaining point guard prospect, the 6-foot-4 senior has an excellent shot of moving up to five-star status when final rankings for the class of 2013 are done. For the latter half of his state title winning senior season, Jordan has been rumored to be leaning to UCLA. However, with Ben Howland out in Westwood, the Bruins are obviously at a significant disadvantage.
If they were indeed trailing as rumor had it, Temple and St. John's have to see a major opening to try and lock up Jordan. Jordan has been a frequent visitor to Temple games during the 2012-13 season and at St. John's the Red Storm should be returning a team full of long and athletic players with whom Jordan would fit in nicely. Steve Lavin and the Red Storm, much like UCLA, have also been a rumored leader at time. Can their stable of athletes trump playing for a hometown squad that has been very successful of late that has room for a new star to take over the departing Khalif Wyatt?
How many 5 star players aren't McDonalds AA's?
There are three criteria for being a McD's AA:
1) Are you highly ranked by the main recruiting services
2) You cannot be a post-grad player and…
3) You committed to Kentucky!!!!
-
Eric Bossi column on some upcoming decisions:
http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1488325 (http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1488325)
Finally there's Jordan. The nation's top remaining point guard prospect, the 6-foot-4 senior has an excellent shot of moving up to five-star status when final rankings for the class of 2013 are done. For the latter half of his state title winning senior season, Jordan has been rumored to be leaning to UCLA. However, with Ben Howland out in Westwood, the Bruins are obviously at a significant disadvantage.
If they were indeed trailing as rumor had it, Temple and St. John's have to see a major opening to try and lock up Jordan. Jordan has been a frequent visitor to Temple games during the 2012-13 season and at St. John's the Red Storm should be returning a team full of long and athletic players with whom Jordan would fit in nicely. Steve Lavin and the Red Storm, much like UCLA, have also been a rumored leader at time. Can their stable of athletes trump playing for a hometown squad that has been very successful of late that has room for a new star to take over the departing Khalif Wyatt?
How many 5 star players aren't McDonalds AA's?
There are three criteria for being a McD's AA:
1) Are you highly ranked by the main recruiting services
2) You cannot be a post-grad player and…
3) You committed to Kentucky!!!!
Actually 4
You are committed to Duke
-
He fits with and is needed by sju. If Lavs wants him he got the ammo.
-
“@ozoneinq: Vaux's Rysheed Jordan @sheedjordan finished with a scoring average of 24.8 points. He drilled 53 treys. #vaux http://twitter.com/ozoneinq/status/316993352274960385/photo/1 (http://twitter.com/ozoneinq/status/316993352274960385/photo/1)”
-
Rysheed Jordan is Philadelphia Daily News POY. Beat out some worthy competition in Vasturia (going to ND), Brandon Austin going to Providence and junior standout Newton.
http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/high_school/pennsylvania/20130328_Vaux__Jordan_is_Daily_News_Player_of_the_Year.html (http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/high_school/pennsylvania/20130328_Vaux__Jordan_is_Daily_News_Player_of_the_Year.html)
The 6-4, 185-pound Jordan, a senior point guard at Roberts Vaux High, and widely ranked among the country's top 30 high school players, was pestered nonstop to reveal his college destination. He instead chose the keep-'em-in-suspense route, even after tweeting a couple times (kiddingly, it turned out) he'd reveal his choice after kicking Team X's butt.
Now, he insists, he will make his announcement April 15 ("This whole process was really taxing," he'll be able to say) and the Final Three remain Temple, St. John's and UCLA.
-
Rysheed Jordan is Philadelphia Daily News POY. Beat out some worthy competition in Vasturia (going to ND), Brandon Austin going to Providence and junior standout Newton.
http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/high_school/pennsylvania/20130328_Vaux__Jordan_is_Daily_News_Player_of_the_Year.html (http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/high_school/pennsylvania/20130328_Vaux__Jordan_is_Daily_News_Player_of_the_Year.html)
The 6-4, 185-pound Jordan, a senior point guard at Roberts Vaux High, and widely ranked among the country's top 30 high school players, was pestered nonstop to reveal his college destination. He instead chose the keep-'em-in-suspense route, even after tweeting a couple times (kiddingly, it turned out) he'd reveal his choice after kicking Team X's butt.
Now, he insists, he will make his announcement April 15 ("This whole process was really taxing," he'll be able to say) and the Final Three remain Temple, St. John's and UCLA.
Prob waiting to see who the next bruin coach is gonna be. If that's not settled soon wait for yet another delay, can't say I blame him on that count.
-
Probably means nothing but still
STJ_Basketball @STJ_Basketball
Also adding Hooper the shooter, Gift in the post plus... ?? RT @AdamZagoria: w/ Orlando Sanchez and the rest, #stjbb could be fun to watch
-
Rysheed Jordan is Philadelphia Daily News POY. Beat out some worthy competition in Vasturia (going to ND), Brandon Austin going to Providence and junior standout Newton.
http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/high_school/pennsylvania/20130328_Vaux__Jordan_is_Daily_News_Player_of_the_Year.html (http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/high_school/pennsylvania/20130328_Vaux__Jordan_is_Daily_News_Player_of_the_Year.html)
The 6-4, 185-pound Jordan, a senior point guard at Roberts Vaux High, and widely ranked among the country's top 30 high school players, was pestered nonstop to reveal his college destination. He instead chose the keep-'em-in-suspense route, even after tweeting a couple times (kiddingly, it turned out) he'd reveal his choice after kicking Team X's butt.
Now, he insists, he will make his announcement April 15 ("This whole process was really taxing," he'll be able to say) and the Final Three remain Temple, St. John's and UCLA.
Prob waiting to see who the next bruin coach is gonna be. If that's not settled soon wait for yet another delay, can't say I blame him on that count.
No delays. UCLA will be settled well before April 15.
-
Tough it is obviously related to Rysheed, I moved the UCLA coach talk to the UCLA thread in college and pro sports.
-
Philly.com update. Basically the same thing the Telep article says and that is Jordan still considering UCLA.
http://mobile.philly.com/blogs/?wss=/philly/blogs/rally/&id=200659741 (http://mobile.philly.com/blogs/?wss=/philly/blogs/rally/&id=200659741)
-
Rysheed Jordan is Philadelphia Daily News POY. Beat out some worthy competition in Vasturia (going to ND), Brandon Austin going to Providence and junior standout Newton.
http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/high_school/pennsylvania/20130328_Vaux__Jordan_is_Daily_News_Player_of_the_Year.html (http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/high_school/pennsylvania/20130328_Vaux__Jordan_is_Daily_News_Player_of_the_Year.html)
The 6-4, 185-pound Jordan, a senior point guard at Roberts Vaux High, and widely ranked among the country's top 30 high school players, was pestered nonstop to reveal his college destination. He instead chose the keep-'em-in-suspense route, even after tweeting a couple times (kiddingly, it turned out) he'd reveal his choice after kicking Team X's butt.
Now, he insists, he will make his announcement April 15 ("This whole process was really taxing," he'll be able to say) and the Final Three remain Temple, St. John's and UCLA.
Prob waiting to see who the next bruin coach is gonna be. If that's not settled soon wait for yet another delay, can't say I blame him on that count.
No delays. UCLA will be settled well before April 15.
Even if they keep getting turned down? BTW, who do you think they're getting?
-
I would imagine at this point is that they will turn attention to Buzz Williams and if not it becomes a Lorenzo Romar Mike Dunleavy or Mike Brown scenario.
Perhaps the coaching fraternity doesn't feel that Lavin and Howland should have ever been fired after the last 17 years of coaching at UCLA and doesn't want that happening to them.
How cool would it be if Howland threw his name into the USC mix ?
-
I would imagine at this point is that they will turn attention to Buzz Williams and if not it becomes a Lorenzo Romar Mike Dunleavy or Mike Brown scenario.
Perhaps the coaching fraternity doesn't feel that Lavin and Howland should have ever been fired after the last 17 years of coaching at UCLA and doesn't want that happening to them.
How cool would it be if Howland threw his name into the USC mix ?
Ah, revenge, but he'd have a rough couple of years because in lala land college bball ucla is the top dog.
-
So Rysheed has an interesting choice. In addition to Alford and perhaps Kyle returning and Zach Lavine Alford will be bringing his son Bryce with him to Westwood. Bryce is a high school guard in New Mexico who was set to play for his dad at NM but will now be following his dad to UCLA.
A lot to consider when thinking about UCLA.
-
So Rysheed has an interesting choice. In addition to Alford and perhaps Kyle returning and Zach Lavine Alford will be bringing his son Bryce with him to Westwood. Bryce is a high school guard in New Mexico who was set to play for his dad at NM but will now be following his dad to UCLA.
A lot to consider when thinking about UCLA.
I would imagine that this effectively will take UCLA out of the mix.
-
So Rysheed has an interesting choice. In addition to Alford and perhaps Kyle returning and Zach Lavine Alford will be bringing his son Bryce with him to Westwood. Bryce is a high school guard in New Mexico who was set to play for his dad at NM but will now be following his dad to UCLA.
A lot to consider when thinking about UCLA.
I would imagine that this effectively will take UCLA out of the mix.
All three of those guys aren't really point guards though, unless I'm mistakin about Lavine.
-
So Rysheed has an interesting choice. In addition to Alford and perhaps Kyle returning and Zach Lavine Alford will be bringing his son Bryce with him to Westwood. Bryce is a high school guard in New Mexico who was set to play for his dad at NM but will now be following his dad to UCLA.
A lot to consider when thinking about UCLA.
I would imagine that this effectively will take UCLA out of the mix.
Bryce Alford is a 6'3 pure SG. More likely to impact Norman Powells decision whether to transfer or not than whether Rysheed comes. There is still NO pg on UCLA's roster next season.
-
So Rysheed has an interesting choice. In addition to Alford and perhaps Kyle returning and Zach Lavine Alford will be bringing his son Bryce with him to Westwood. Bryce is a high school guard in New Mexico who was set to play for his dad at NM but will now be following his dad to UCLA.
A lot to consider when thinking about UCLA.
I would imagine that this effectively will take UCLA out of the mix.
Bryce Alford is a 6'3 pure SG. More likely to impact Norman Powells decision whether to transfer or not than whether Rysheed comes. There is still NO pg on UCLA's roster next season.
Keep in mind Jordan is no pure PG himself.
I think the biggest issue is the recruiting calendar. Starting on Monday you have a Quiet Period thru Wed the 3rd. Only ON campus visits allowed and any visit by Jordan to LA would have to be on his dime since he took an official already. Then starting on the 4th thru the 11th you have a Dead Period where no recruiting visits can take place.
Perhaps between the 11th and 15th they can build a relationship but that is a tight squeeze
-
So Rysheed has an interesting choice. In addition to Alford and perhaps Kyle returning and Zach Lavine Alford will be bringing his son Bryce with him to Westwood. Bryce is a high school guard in New Mexico who was set to play for his dad at NM but will now be following his dad to UCLA.
A lot to consider when thinking about UCLA.
I would imagine that this effectively will take UCLA out of the mix.
Bryce Alford is a 6'3 pure SG. More likely to impact Norman Powells decision whether to transfer or not than whether Rysheed comes. There is still NO pg on UCLA's roster next season.
Keep in mind Jordan is no pure PG himself.
I think the biggest issue is the recruiting calendar. Starting on Monday you have a Quiet Period thru Wed the 3rd. Only ON campus visits allowed and any visit by Jordan to LA would have to be on his dime since he took an official already. Then starting on the 4th thru the 11th you have a Dead Period where no recruiting visits can take place.
Perhaps between the 11th and 15th they can build a relationship but that is a tight squeeze
Although Jordan is the "purest" of the guards to potentially play the point, you still have Kyle yearning to bring the ball up and he appears to be sticking around another year. Those are a lot of freshman guards to keep happy. 4 of them if you count Rysheed. May be a tight squeeze. I would be worried for Temple or St Johns if Alford wasn't bringing his son along.
-
"WASHINGTON, D.C. — The Steve Alford-to-UCLA news was coming fast and furious to UCLA’s current players and recruits on Saturday, but Rysheed Jordan is still considering the Bruins after the coaching change.
“Yeah, he’s still considering them,” Philly Vaux Roberts coach Jamie Ross told SNY.tv, before adding, “I didn’t even know that Steve Alford got named.”
“@AdamZagoria: Rysheed Jordan Still Considering UCLA http://on.sny.tv/Xjnpy5 (http://on.sny.tv/Xjnpy5)”
-
So Rysheed has an interesting choice. In addition to Alford and perhaps Kyle returning and Zach Lavine Alford will be bringing his son Bryce with him to Westwood. Bryce is a high school guard in New Mexico who was set to play for his dad at NM but will now be following his dad to UCLA.
A lot to consider when thinking about UCLA.
I would imagine that this effectively will take UCLA out of the mix.
Bryce Alford is a 6'3 pure SG. More likely to impact Norman Powells decision whether to transfer or not than whether Rysheed comes. There is still NO pg on UCLA's roster next season.
Keep in mind Jordan is no pure PG himself.
I think the biggest issue is the recruiting calendar. Starting on Monday you have a Quiet Period thru Wed the 3rd. Only ON campus visits allowed and any visit by Jordan to LA would have to be on his dime since he took an official already. Then starting on the 4th thru the 11th you have a Dead Period where no recruiting visits can take place.
Perhaps between the 11th and 15th they can build a relationship but that is a tight squeeze
I'll be happy with Sheed at either UCLA or St. Johns. But for what it's worth, Sheed's game seems very similar to that of Kendall Williams, who's thrived in Alford's scheme at New Mexico (13pts 5 assists this year). Williams was another player that clashed with Ben Howland - originally a UCLA commit, who Howland cut loose and ended up at UNM.
-
"WASHINGTON, D.C. — The Steve Alford-to-UCLA news was coming fast and furious to UCLA’s current players and recruits on Saturday, but Rysheed Jordan is still considering the Bruins after the coaching change.
“Yeah, he’s still considering them,” Philly Vaux Roberts coach Jamie Ross told SNY.tv, before adding, “I didn’t even know that Steve Alford got named.”
“@AdamZagoria: Rysheed Jordan Still Considering UCLA http://on.sny.tv/Xjnpy5 (http://on.sny.tv/Xjnpy5)”
Again I don't see how the calendar really makes sense for Alford to introduce himself to Jordan.
Stranger things have happened though.
-
"WASHINGTON, D.C. — The Steve Alford-to-UCLA news was coming fast and furious to UCLA’s current players and recruits on Saturday, but Rysheed Jordan is still considering the Bruins after the coaching change.
“Yeah, he’s still considering them,” Philly Vaux Roberts coach Jamie Ross told SNY.tv, before adding, “I didn’t even know that Steve Alford got named.”
“@AdamZagoria: Rysheed Jordan Still Considering UCLA http://on.sny.tv/Xjnpy5 (http://on.sny.tv/Xjnpy5)”
Again I don't see how the calendar really makes sense for Alford to introduce himself to Jordan.
Stranger things have happened though.
You ever hear of a middleman?
-
"WASHINGTON, D.C. — The Steve Alford-to-UCLA news was coming fast and furious to UCLA’s current players and recruits on Saturday, but Rysheed Jordan is still considering the Bruins after the coaching change.
“Yeah, he’s still considering them,” Philly Vaux Roberts coach Jamie Ross told SNY.tv, before adding, “I didn’t even know that Steve Alford got named.”
“@AdamZagoria: Rysheed Jordan Still Considering UCLA http://on.sny.tv/Xjnpy5 (http://on.sny.tv/Xjnpy5)”
Again I don't see how the calendar really makes sense for Alford to introduce himself to Jordan.
Stranger things have happened though.
You ever hear of a middleman?
I have heard of a bagman.
I have also heard of the rock group Aerosmith.
Not sure what that means but it is pretty funny...
-
"WASHINGTON, D.C. — The Steve Alford-to-UCLA news was coming fast and furious to UCLA’s current players and recruits on Saturday, but Rysheed Jordan is still considering the Bruins after the coaching change.
“Yeah, he’s still considering them,” Philly Vaux Roberts coach Jamie Ross told SNY.tv, before adding, “I didn’t even know that Steve Alford got named.”
“@AdamZagoria: Rysheed Jordan Still Considering UCLA http://on.sny.tv/Xjnpy5 (http://on.sny.tv/Xjnpy5)”
Kinda hard to believe Ross and Sheed weren't hit with like a hundred tweets and emails the second it was announced....
-
This link was posted in the UCLA thread but it seems apropos to this thread also. It seems that UCLA really wants to focus on L.A. And West Coast players---including several pg's in 2014. Does Rysheed feel comfortable going into that situation, playing for a coach that didn't recruit him to the school?
http://www.ocregister.com/sports/recruiting-502152-alford-head.html (http://www.ocregister.com/sports/recruiting-502152-alford-head.html)
-
This link was posted in the UCLA thread but it seems apropos to this thread also. It seems that UCLA really wants to focus on L.A. And West Coast players---including several pg's in 2014. Does Rysheed feel comfortable going into that situation, playing for a coach that didn't recruit him to the school?
http://www.ocregister.com/sports/recruiting-502152-alford-head.html (http://www.ocregister.com/sports/recruiting-502152-alford-head.html)
no mention of Jordan at all...
-
This link was posted in the UCLA thread but it seems apropos to this thread also. It seems that UCLA really wants to focus on L.A. And West Coast players---including several pg's in 2014. Does Rysheed feel comfortable going into that situation, playing for a coach that didn't recruit him to the school?
http://www.ocregister.com/sports/recruiting-502152-alford-head.html (http://www.ocregister.com/sports/recruiting-502152-alford-head.html)
no mention of Jordan at all...
I noticed that too.
Another thing, how bad does it look if Alford goes all out for a guard from Philadelphia while they can still get Parker Cartwright to change his mind for 14?
-
This link was posted in the UCLA thread but it seems apropos to this thread also. It seems that UCLA really wants to focus on L.A. And West Coast players---including several pg's in 2014. Does Rysheed feel comfortable going into that situation, playing for a coach that didn't recruit him to the school?
http://www.ocregister.com/sports/recruiting-502152-alford-head.html (http://www.ocregister.com/sports/recruiting-502152-alford-head.html)
no mention of Jordan at all...
I noticed that too.
Another thing, how bad does it look if Alford goes all out for a guard from Philadelphia while they can still get Parker Cartwright to change his mind for 14?
That's why I posted it. Even if he keeps Korey McCray not sure Alford is going to sway Jordan or even if Jordan is a UCLA focus.
BTW-All I know is if Jordan doesn't choose Temple I could see a Rutgers-Lance Thomas like situation.
-
This link was posted in the UCLA thread but it seems apropos to this thread also. It seems that UCLA really wants to focus on L.A. And West Coast players---including several pg's in 2014. Does Rysheed feel comfortable going into that situation, playing for a coach that didn't recruit him to the school?
http://www.ocregister.com/sports/recruiting-502152-alford-head.html (http://www.ocregister.com/sports/recruiting-502152-alford-head.html)
no mention of Jordan at all...
I noticed that too.
Another thing, how bad does it look if Alford goes all out for a guard from Philadelphia while they can still get Parker Cartwright to change his mind for 14?
That's why I posted it. Even if he keeps Korey McCray not sure Alford is going to sway Jordan or even if Jordan is a UCLA focus.
BTW-All I know is if Jordan doesn't choose Temple I could see a Rutgers-Lance Thomas like situation.
Like L'Ville ,who lost Ware for next year, for example. Also, Jardine, a buddy of Jordan, has recently bugged him about Cuse humorously. Nothing would surprise me with Jordan.
-
This link was posted in the UCLA thread but it seems apropos to this thread also. It seems that UCLA really wants to focus on L.A. And West Coast players---including several pg's in 2014. Does Rysheed feel comfortable going into that situation, playing for a coach that didn't recruit him to the school?
http://www.ocregister.com/sports/recruiting-502152-alford-head.html (http://www.ocregister.com/sports/recruiting-502152-alford-head.html)
no mention of Jordan at all...
I noticed that too.
Another thing, how bad does it look if Alford goes all out for a guard from Philadelphia while they can still get Parker Cartwright to change his mind for 14?
That's why I posted it. Even if he keeps Korey McCray not sure Alford is going to sway Jordan or even if Jordan is a UCLA focus.
BTW-All I know is if Jordan doesn't choose Temple I could see a Rutgers-Lance Thomas like situation.
In terms of message board comments by local school fans?
-
This link was posted in the UCLA thread but it seems apropos to this thread also. It seems that UCLA really wants to focus on L.A. And West Coast players---including several pg's in 2014. Does Rysheed feel comfortable going into that situation, playing for a coach that didn't recruit him to the school?
http://www.ocregister.com/sports/recruiting-502152-alford-head.html (http://www.ocregister.com/sports/recruiting-502152-alford-head.html)
no mention of Jordan at all...
I noticed that too.
Another thing, how bad does it look if Alford goes all out for a guard from Philadelphia while they can still get Parker Cartwright to change his mind for 14?
That's why I posted it. Even if he keeps Korey McCray not sure Alford is going to sway Jordan or even if Jordan is a UCLA focus.
BTW-All I know is if Jordan doesn't choose Temple I could see a Rutgers-Lance Thomas like situation.
In terms of message board comments by local school fans?
Yes they have convinced themselves he has no other option.
-
Zags tweeted that Alford is unlikely to retain Korey McCray. I am pretty sure he is the lead recruiter on Jordan.
So short recruiting calendar, new coach and new lead recruiter.
-
Yaaaaaaay :2funny:
I think?
-
Let's say Rysheed commits to St. Johns. He tries it for a year, and for what ever reason it doesn't work out. Couldn't one of his relatives in Philly develop a bad 'sinus infection', thereby allowing him to transfer to Temple, without losing a year. Has to be a plus for St. Johns.
-
Let's say Rysheed commits to St. Johns. He tries it for a year, and for what ever reason it doesn't work out. Couldn't one of his relatives in Philly develop a bad 'sinus infection', thereby allowing him to transfer to Temple, without losing a year. Has to be a plus for St. Johns.
Same conference provision, no? ;D
-
Let's say Rysheed commits to St. Johns. He tries it for a year, and for what ever reason it doesn't work out. Couldn't one of his relatives in Philly develop a bad 'sinus infection', thereby allowing him to transfer to Temple, without losing a year. Has to be a plus for St. Johns.
Same conference provision, no? ;D
Not same conference.
-
If we miss out on Jordan, and we don't sign any major targets for 2014 I am going to really assume Lavin is an overrated recruiter. At this stage in the game the team has shown life and a potential for success with lots of nice pieces. We have our head coach fully involved in the program now. There is no excuse to not start signing can't miss talent i.e. Lawrence/McCollough type guys.
-
If we miss out on Jordan, and we don't sign any major targets for 2014 I am going to really assume Lavin is an overrated recruiter. At this stage in the game the team has shown life and a potential for success with lots of nice pieces. We have our head coach fully involved in the program now. There is no excuse to not start signing can't miss talent i.e. Lawrence/McCollough type guys.
Ummm, he has brought in several #1 classes and the #3 class two years ago. Wasn't last year top 25 as well? Big deal we've missed out on some 5 star players, every program does
-
If we miss out on Jordan, and we don't sign any major targets for 2014 I am going to really assume Lavin is an overrated recruiter. At this stage in the game the team has shown life and a potential for success with lots of nice pieces. We have our head coach fully involved in the program now. There is no excuse to not start signing can't miss talent i.e. Lawrence/McCollough type guys.
Are you kidding?
-
If we miss out on Jordan, and we don't sign any major targets for 2014 I am going to really assume Lavin is an overrated recruiter. At this stage in the game the team has shown life and a potential for success with lots of nice pieces. We have our head coach fully involved in the program now. There is no excuse to not start signing can't miss talent i.e. Lawrence/McCollough type guys.
Are you kidding?
Joe doesn't kid.
-
I think Rysheed is confusing himself.
Yesterday on twitter he tweeted "9 more days" before he decides. But that would be April 11th not April 15th. Someone tweeted back that he means April 15th the original date he set.
But then Rysheed said that April 11th is the first day to sign.
He is wrong though. The Spring Signing Period starts April 17th. The only significance of April 11th is that it is the end of the Dead Period in recruiting.
-
I think Rysheed is confusing himself.
Yesterday on twitter he tweeted "9 more days" before he decides. But that would be April 11th not April 15th. Someone tweeted back that he means April 15th the original date he set.
But then Rysheed said that April 11th is the first day to sign.
He is wrong though. The Spring Signing Period starts April 17th. The only significance of April 11th is that it is the end of the Dead Period in recruiting.
Obviously not a Math Major
-
I think Rysheed is confusing himself.
Yesterday on twitter he tweeted "9 more days" before he decides. But that would be April 11th not April 15th. Someone tweeted back that he means April 15th the original date he set.
But then Rysheed said that April 11th is the first day to sign.
He is wrong though. The Spring Signing Period starts April 17th. The only significance of April 11th is that it is the end of the Dead Period in recruiting.
Obviously not a Math Major
How is his basketball IQ ;)
-
I think Rysheed is confusing himself.
Yesterday on twitter he tweeted "9 more days" before he decides. But that would be April 11th not April 15th. Someone tweeted back that he means April 15th the original date he set.
But then Rysheed said that April 11th is the first day to sign.
He is wrong though. The Spring Signing Period starts April 17th. The only significance of April 11th is that it is the end of the Dead Period in recruiting.
Obviously not a Math Major
How is his basketball IQ ;)
Quite high, but one of "youngest" in the nation.
-
I think Rysheed is confusing himself.
Yesterday on twitter he tweeted "9 more days" before he decides. But that would be April 11th not April 15th. Someone tweeted back that he means April 15th the original date he set.
But then Rysheed said that April 11th is the first day to sign.
He is wrong though. The Spring Signing Period starts April 17th. The only significance of April 11th is that it is the end of the Dead Period in recruiting.
Could he have meant 9 more school days? That would take him to April 15.
-
I think Rysheed is confusing himself.
Yesterday on twitter he tweeted "9 more days" before he decides. But that would be April 11th not April 15th. Someone tweeted back that he means April 15th the original date he set.
But then Rysheed said that April 11th is the first day to sign.
He is wrong though. The Spring Signing Period starts April 17th. The only significance of April 11th is that it is the end of the Dead Period in recruiting.
Could he have meant 9 more school days? That would take him to April 15.
I don't think so because in response to the tweet about him being mistaken about it being April 11th instead of his original date of April 15th he wrote:
"signing day is the 11."
-
I think Rysheed is confusing himself.
Yesterday on twitter he tweeted "9 more days" before he decides. But that would be April 11th not April 15th. Someone tweeted back that he means April 15th the original date he set.
But then Rysheed said that April 11th is the first day to sign.
He is wrong though. The Spring Signing Period starts April 17th. The only significance of April 11th is that it is the end of the Dead Period in recruiting.
Could he have meant 9 more school days? That would take him to April 15.
I don't think so because in response to the tweet about him being mistaken about it being April 11th instead of his original date of April 15th he wrote:
"signing day is the 11."
lol
-
Rysheed wins the prestigious Philly Phoenix Award:
http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/rick-obrien/ (http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/rick-obrien/)
-
Rysheed wins the prestigious Philly Phoenix Award:
http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/rick-obrien/ (http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/rick-obrien/)
Did Nuri win that?
-
Here are the past Phoenix Award honorees:
2012: Maurice Watson, Boys’ Latin Charter
2011: Jerrell Wright, Murrell Dobbins
2010: Tyrone Garland, Bartram
2009: Sam Prescott, Imhotep Charter
2008: Andrew “Scootie” Randall, Communications Tech
-
Anybody have any insight where he is leaning towards or what recruiting experts are saying?
-
Seems the local Philly newspaper has picked up on the fact SJU created potential space for Rysheed.
Also confirms with Yard that no other schools are involved with Jordan. So we can stop the conspiracy theories on other schools swooping at last minute.
http://mobile.philly.com/blogs/?wss=/philly/blogs/rally/&id=201299241 (http://mobile.philly.com/blogs/?wss=/philly/blogs/rally/&id=201299241)
-
Seems the local Philly newspaper has picked up on the fact SJU created potential space for Rysheed.
Also confirms with Yard that no other schools are involved with Jordan. So we can stop the conspiracy theories on other schools swooping at last minute.
http://mobile.philly.com/blogs/?wss=/philly/blogs/rally/&id=201299241 (http://mobile.philly.com/blogs/?wss=/philly/blogs/rally/&id=201299241)
C'mon Rysheed. No brainer here. Backcourt of RYSHEED, D'Lo, Branch and Greene could be excellent in addition to existing frontcourt talent.
-
HE will sign inspite of Lavin being an overrated recruiter
-
Lavin's not a good recruiter?
-
Seems the local Philly newspaper has picked up on the fact SJU created potential space for Rysheed.
Also confirms with Yard that no other schools are involved with Jordan. So we can stop the conspiracy theories on other schools swooping at last minute.
http://mobile.philly.com/blogs/?wss=/philly/blogs/rally/&id=201299241 (http://mobile.philly.com/blogs/?wss=/philly/blogs/rally/&id=201299241)
C'mon Rysheed. No brainer here. Backcourt of RYSHEED, D'Lo, Branch and Greene could be excellent in addition to existing frontcourt talent.
Biggest question is do we go 3 guard? Dom as a major spark plug off the bench? That could be a great problem to have.
-
If we miss out on Jordan, and we don't sign any major targets for 2014 I am going to really assume Lavin is an overrated recruiter. At this stage in the game the team has shown life and a potential for success with lots of nice pieces. We have our head coach fully involved in the program now. There is no excuse to not start signing can't miss talent i.e. Lawrence/McCollough type guys.
Ummm, he has brought in several #1 classes and the #3 class two years ago. Wasn't last year top 25 as well? Big deal we've missed out on some 5 star players, every program does
Since when has he brought in several #1 classes at SJ? The #3 class was not technically #3 after all the ineligibilities. It probably went from #3 to #15 with all the issues there. Last year he brought in a class considered top 25 only by one smaller blog or site, not a nationally known and respected one like ESPN, Scout, Rivals, or CBS. I know we only have 1 slot or 2 if Harrison leaves, but for the 2014 and 2015 classes he has no excuses...go out and get the bonafide studs aka the 5 star big boys.
-
If we miss out on Jordan, and we don't sign any major targets for 2014 I am going to really assume Lavin is an overrated recruiter. At this stage in the game the team has shown life and a potential for success with lots of nice pieces. We have our head coach fully involved in the program now. There is no excuse to not start signing can't miss talent i.e. Lawrence/McCollough type guys.
Ummm, he has brought in several #1 classes and the #3 class two years ago. Wasn't last year top 25 as well? Big deal we've missed out on some 5 star players, every program does
Since when has he brought in several #1 classes at SJ? The #3 class was not technically #3 after all the ineligibilities. It probably went from #3 to #15 with all the issues there. Last year he brought in a class considered top 25 only by one smaller blog or site, not a nationally known and respected one like ESPN, Scout, Rivals, or CBS. I know we only have 1 slot or 2 if Harrison leaves, but for the 2014 and 2015 classes he has no excuses...go out and get the bonafide studs aka the 5 star big boys.
Ok. Literally the only reason last years class wasn't ranked by most sites is because they didn't count Jakarr, Sanchez, and Branch. If recruiting services recognized all of them, we would've been ranked in all of them. You are just fishing for ways to be a whiner.
-
The #3 class was not technically #3 after all the ineligibilities.
When are rankings finalized? I'm guessing before writers find out who's ineligible, so it remained a #3 class regardless of what you think.
-
If we miss out on Jordan, and we don't sign any major targets for 2014 I am going to really assume Lavin is an overrated recruiter. At this stage in the game the team has shown life and a potential for success with lots of nice pieces. We have our head coach fully involved in the program now. There is no excuse to not start signing can't miss talent i.e. Lawrence/McCollough type guys.
Ummm, he has brought in several #1 classes and the #3 class two years ago. Wasn't last year top 25 as well? Big deal we've missed out on some 5 star players, every program does
Since when has he brought in several #1 classes at SJ? The #3 class was not technically #3 after all the ineligibilities. It probably went from #3 to #15 with all the issues there. Last year he brought in a class considered top 25 only by one smaller blog or site, not a nationally known and respected one like ESPN, Scout, Rivals, or CBS. I know we only have 1 slot or 2 if Harrison leaves, but for the 2014 and 2015 classes he has no excuses...go out and get the bonafide studs aka the 5 star big boys.
Calling Crgreen?
As head coach at UCLA, Lavin and his staff recruited and signed the No. 1 rated recruiting class in the country in 1998 and 2001. Lavin signed seven McDonald's High School All-Americans. Seven of Lavin’s former Bruin recruits became roster members of NBA teams: Trevor Ariza, Matt Barnes, Baron Davis, Dan Gadzuric, Ryan Hollins, Jason Kapono, and Earl Watson.
At STJ he has brought in the big east rookie of the year in back-to-back years sending one of them to the NBA. Additionally, he has brought in 7 top 100 players (Harkless, Harrison, Pointer, Garrett, Sampson, Branch, Obekpa) as well as commitments from top 100 players Gathers & Pelle in just 2 full recruiting years. How many top 100 players were brought in during the previous 10 years? (I Honestly dont know)
Its fair game to question his in game coaching and some of his methods but I dont see any way you can question his recruiting ability.
-
If we miss out on Jordan, and we don't sign any major targets for 2014 I am going to really assume Lavin is an overrated recruiter. At this stage in the game the team has shown life and a potential for success with lots of nice pieces. We have our head coach fully involved in the program now. There is no excuse to not start signing can't miss talent i.e. Lawrence/McCollough type guys.
Ummm, he has brought in several #1 classes and the #3 class two years ago. Wasn't last year top 25 as well? Big deal we've missed out on some 5 star players, every program does
Since when has he brought in several #1 classes at SJ? The #3 class was not technically #3 after all the ineligibilities. It probably went from #3 to #15 with all the issues there. Last year he brought in a class considered top 25 only by one smaller blog or site, not a nationally known and respected one like ESPN, Scout, Rivals, or CBS. I know we only have 1 slot or 2 if Harrison leaves, but for the 2014 and 2015 classes he has no excuses...go out and get the bonafide studs aka the 5 star big boys.
Calling Crgreen?
As head coach at UCLA, Lavin and his staff recruited and signed the No. 1 rated recruiting class in the country in 1998 and 2001. Lavin signed seven McDonald's High School All-Americans. Seven of Lavin’s former Bruin recruits became roster members of NBA teams: Trevor Ariza, Matt Barnes, Baron Davis, Dan Gadzuric, Ryan Hollins, Jason Kapono, and Earl Watson.
At STJ he has brought in the big east rookie of the year in back-to-back years sending one of them to the NBA. Additionally, he has brought in 7 top 100 players (Harkless, Harrison, Pointer, Garrett, Sampson, Branch, Obekpa) as well as commitments from top 100 players Gathers & Pelle in just 2 full recruiting years. How many top 100 players were brought in during the previous 10 years? (I Honestly dont know)
Its fair game to question his in game coaching and some of his methods but I dont see any way you can question his recruiting ability.
You left out lottery pick Jerome Moiso (same class as Gadzuric and Barnes - they stayed 4 years, Jerome was drafted by Pitino with the Celts after his soph season). You also left off Dijon Thompson (Hawks and Warriors), and Cedric Bozeman (Hawks).
-
this shows that ucla is in a different stratosphere than st john's.
-
this shows that ucla is in a different stratosphere than st john's.
Not really debating the level of the two programs but Lavin has already put a kid in the NBA in his first real recruiting class, with another two (at least) on the current team likely to make the league (Jakarr, Obekpa and possibly SirDom).
-
this shows that ucla is in a different stratosphere than st john's.
In other earth shattering news, the sky is blue.
-
Zags tweeted that Alford is unlikely to retain Korey McCray. I am pretty sure he is the lead recruiter on Jordan.
So short recruiting calendar, new coach and new lead recruiter.
Zags tweeted Alford is keeping McCray on in an administrative role. Pretty good coup because he is clearly qualified to be a full time assistant.
Also would be interested to see how the 2 year non-recruiting rule applies here. In other words McCray was associated with th major AAU power Celtics. He was hired as a full time assistant at UCLA in June of 2011. So come June 2013 he will have been at UCLA for 2 years. However that was a different role then now. I think the non-recruiting window starts now, meaning for the next 2 years UCLA cannot recruit players he was associated with.
-
Lavin should try to bring McCray on board...
wishful thinking...
-
Zags tweeted that Alford is unlikely to retain Korey McCray. I am pretty sure he is the lead recruiter on Jordan.
So short recruiting calendar, new coach and new lead recruiter.
Zags tweeted Alford is keeping McCray on in an administrative role. Pretty good coup because he is clearly qualified to be a full time assistant.
Also would be interested to see how the 2 year non-recruiting rule applies here. In other words McCray was associated with th major AAU power Celtics. He was hired as a full time assistant at UCLA in June of 2011. So come June 2013 he will have been at UCLA for 2 years. However that was a different role then now. I think the non-recruiting window starts now, meaning for the next 2 years UCLA cannot recruit players he was associated with.
May be just a way to keep paying Kory while he looks for another coaching job. Likely something in the incentives part of the original contract to leave the Atlanta Celtics. An administrative position would preclude him from off campus recruiting or oncourt coaching - the two areays Kory provides value. Reports are DOBO Tyus Edney has been retained, so that doesn't leave a whole lot of need for retaining Kory past the transition period, other than contractual obligations.
Or maybe they're holding him TO his contract so he can't jump across town and join Andy Enfield's staff at rival U$C :)
-
this shows that ucla is in a different stratosphere than st john's.
In other earth shattering news, the sky is blue.
not in st john's neighborhood...in the winter.
-
this shows that ucla is in a different stratosphere than st john's.
not anymore...no buzz at UCLA...
-
St. John's IS in a different stratosphere than UCLA. UCLA is a BCS school, has way more prestige than us both academically and athletically. Recruiting at UCLA is MUCH easier than recruiting at St. John's where we had 1 good year in the past decade and can't even come close to their history. If he is truly a great recruiter, let's see him get McDonalds AA's here at SJ. Providence did it...they got 2. Why can't we?
If they can get 5 star guys so can we. In the grand scheme of things Lavin is a good recruiter, but I'm not seeing that high major talent i.e. Big East POY guys. True, Harkless might have been if he stayed, but he is really the only true stud we have had here under him. Sampson is good but needs to get a lot better...he gets a ton of rim on many shots and has that awkward release. I guess what I'm saying is, where are the McD AA's and the 5 star top 25 guys?
-
St. John's IS in a different stratosphere than UCLA. UCLA is a BCS school
What does being a BCS school have to do with anything? SMU is a BCS school too.
-
St. John's IS in a different stratosphere than UCLA. UCLA is a BCS school, has way more prestige than us both academically and athletically. Recruiting at UCLA is MUCH easier than recruiting at St. John's where we had 1 good year in the past decade and can't even come close to their history. If he is truly a great recruiter, let's see him get McDonalds AA's here at SJ. Providence did it...they got 2. Why can't we?
If they can get 5 star guys so can we. In the grand scheme of things Lavin is a good recruiter, but I'm not seeing that high major talent i.e. Big East POY guys. True, Harkless might have been if he stayed, but he is really the only true stud we have had here under him. Sampson is good but needs to get a lot better...he gets a ton of rim on many shots and has that awkward release. I guess what I'm saying is, where are the McD AA's and the 5 star top 25 guys?
Do you remember what recruiting was like even five years ago? Even chronic message board whiners would sign up for our current stable of talent. Perspective
-
St. John's IS in a different stratosphere than UCLA. UCLA is a BCS school
What does being a BCS school have to do with anything? SMU is a BCS school too.
Yep and they signed a MCD AA guard this week!
:uglystupid2:
-
St. John's IS in a different stratosphere than UCLA. UCLA is a BCS school, has way more prestige than us both academically and athletically. Recruiting at UCLA is MUCH easier than recruiting at St. John's where we had 1 good year in the past decade and can't even come close to their history. If he is truly a great recruiter, let's see him get McDonalds AA's here at SJ. Providence did it...they got 2. Why can't we?
If they can get 5 star guys so can we. In the grand scheme of things Lavin is a good recruiter, but I'm not seeing that high major talent i.e. Big East POY guys. True, Harkless might have been if he stayed, but he is really the only true stud we have had here under him. Sampson is good but needs to get a lot better...he gets a ton of rim on many shots and has that awkward release. I guess what I'm saying is, where are the McD AA's and the 5 star top 25 guys?
Exactly, so doesn't that make the caliber of players brought in even that more impressive?
Also, Jakarr was much better then McD all american Kris Dunn this year. Truth be told Jakarr was a 5 star player. Jakarr was the best player at Brewster last year which included 5 star Mitch McGarry and McD AA TJ Warren. Nerlens Noel was probably the only player in New England better then Jakarr. McD all americans are biased & subjective just as ESPN & Scout services are.
I apologize if I sound like a jerk or a know it all, but some of your statements are ridiculous
-
St. John's IS in a different stratosphere than UCLA. UCLA is a BCS school, has way more prestige than us both academically and athletically. Recruiting at UCLA is MUCH easier than recruiting at St. John's where we had 1 good year in the past decade and can't even come close to their history. If he is truly a great recruiter, let's see him get McDonalds AA's here at SJ. Providence did it...they got 2. Why can't we?
If they can get 5 star guys so can we. In the grand scheme of things Lavin is a good recruiter, but I'm not seeing that high major talent i.e. Big East POY guys. True, Harkless might have been if he stayed, but he is really the only true stud we have had here under him. Sampson is good but needs to get a lot better...he gets a ton of rim on many shots and has that awkward release. I guess what I'm saying is, where are the McD AA's and the 5 star top 25 guys?
Exactly, so doesn't that make the caliber of players brought in even that more impressive?
Also, Jakarr was much better then McD all american Kris Dunn this year. Truth be told Jakarr was a 5 star player. Jakarr was the best player at Brewster last year which included 5 star Mitch McGarry and McD AA TJ Warren. Nerlens Noel was probably the only player in New England better then Jakarr. McD all americans are biased & subjective just as ESPN & Scout services are.
I apologize if I sound like a jerk or a know it all, but some of your statements are ridiculous
After watching McGarrybin this tournament, I would completely disagree
-
St. John's IS in a different stratosphere than UCLA. UCLA is a BCS school, has way more prestige than us both academically and athletically. Recruiting at UCLA is MUCH easier than recruiting at St. John's where we had 1 good year in the past decade and can't even come close to their history. If he is truly a great recruiter, let's see him get McDonalds AA's here at SJ. Providence did it...they got 2. Why can't we?
If they can get 5 star guys so can we. In the grand scheme of things Lavin is a good recruiter, but I'm not seeing that high major talent i.e. Big East POY guys. True, Harkless might have been if he stayed, but he is really the only true stud we have had here under him. Sampson is good but needs to get a lot better...he gets a ton of rim on many shots and has that awkward release. I guess what I'm saying is, where are the McD AA's and the 5 star top 25 guys?
Exactly, so doesn't that make the caliber of players brought in even that more impressive?
Also, Jakarr was much better then McD all american Kris Dunn this year. Truth be told Jakarr was a 5 star player. Jakarr was the best player at Brewster last year which included 5 star Mitch McGarry and McD AA TJ Warren. Nerlens Noel was probably the only player in New England better then Jakarr. McD all americans are biased & subjective just as ESPN & Scout services are.
I apologize if I sound like a jerk or a know it all, but some of your statements are ridiculous
After watching McGarrybin this tournament, I would completely disagree
Imagine Sampson got to play with Burke, Hardaway, and Robinson. Lot easier being option 4 than option 1 1/2 as a freshman.
-
St. John's IS in a different stratosphere than UCLA. UCLA is a BCS school, has way more prestige than us both academically and athletically. Recruiting at UCLA is MUCH easier than recruiting at St. John's where we had 1 good year in the past decade and can't even come close to their history. If he is truly a great recruiter, let's see him get McDonalds AA's here at SJ. Providence did it...they got 2. Why can't we?
If they can get 5 star guys so can we. In the grand scheme of things Lavin is a good recruiter, but I'm not seeing that high major talent i.e. Big East POY guys. True, Harkless might have been if he stayed, but he is really the only true stud we have had here under him. Sampson is good but needs to get a lot better...he gets a ton of rim on many shots and has that awkward release. I guess what I'm saying is, where are the McD AA's and the 5 star top 25 guys?
Exactly, so doesn't that make the caliber of players brought in even that more impressive?
Also, Jakarr was much better then McD all american Kris Dunn this year. Truth be told Jakarr was a 5 star player. Jakarr was the best player at Brewster last year which included 5 star Mitch McGarry and McD AA TJ Warren. Nerlens Noel was probably the only player in New England better then Jakarr. McD all americans are biased & subjective just as ESPN & Scout services are.
I apologize if I sound like a jerk or a know it all, but some of your statements are ridiculous
After watching McGarrybin this tournament, I would completely disagree
McGary is 21 yrs old
-
St. John's IS in a different stratosphere than UCLA. UCLA is a BCS school, has way more prestige than us both academically and athletically. Recruiting at UCLA is MUCH easier than recruiting at St. John's where we had 1 good year in the past decade and can't even come close to their history. If he is truly a great recruiter, let's see him get McDonalds AA's here at SJ. Providence did it...they got 2. Why can't we?
If they can get 5 star guys so can we. In the grand scheme of things Lavin is a good recruiter, but I'm not seeing that high major talent i.e. Big East POY guys. True, Harkless might have been if he stayed, but he is really the only true stud we have had here under him. Sampson is good but needs to get a lot better...he gets a ton of rim on many shots and has that awkward release. I guess what I'm saying is, where are the McD AA's and the 5 star top 25 guys?
You need to relax. I don't think STJ fandom is for you if you have this little patience...Most of us have been waiting 20+ years ( sans '99-00) for something good to happen..
-
St. John's IS in a different stratosphere than UCLA. UCLA is a BCS school, has way more prestige than us both academically and athletically. Recruiting at UCLA is MUCH easier than recruiting at St. John's where we had 1 good year in the past decade and can't even come close to their history. If he is truly a great recruiter, let's see him get McDonalds AA's here at SJ. Providence did it...they got 2. Why can't we?
If they can get 5 star guys so can we. In the grand scheme of things Lavin is a good recruiter, but I'm not seeing that high major talent i.e. Big East POY guys. True, Harkless might have been if he stayed, but he is really the only true stud we have had here under him. Sampson is good but needs to get a lot better...he gets a ton of rim on many shots and has that awkward release. I guess what I'm saying is, where are the McD AA's and the 5 star top 25 guys?
Exactly, so doesn't that make the caliber of players brought in even that more impressive?
Also, Jakarr was much better then McD all american Kris Dunn this year. Truth be told Jakarr was a 5 star player. Jakarr was the best player at Brewster last year which included 5 star Mitch McGarry and McD AA TJ Warren. Nerlens Noel was probably the only player in New England better then Jakarr. McD all americans are biased & subjective just as ESPN & Scout services are.
I apologize if I sound like a jerk or a know it all, but some of your statements are ridiculous
After watching McGarrybin this tournament, I would completely disagree
McGary is 21 yrs old
Sanchez can be his grandfather
-
great comeback Baldi... ::)
-
After watching McGarrybin this tournament, I would completely disagree
McGary is 21 yrs old
[/quote]
Sanchez can be his grandfather
[/quote]
Expect big things from him too in the tourney next year!
-
great comeback Baldi... ::)
Thanks, worked hard on that. But seriously, Mcgarry has been ballin. Most improved player over the course of this season imo
-
great comeback Baldi... ::)
Thanks, worked hard on that. But seriously, Mcgarry has been ballin. Most improved player over the course of this season imo
Not necessarily disagreeing, but there are no teams that are focusing on stopping Mitch in their game prep. POY in Burke, with two NBA wings on either side of him. Lots of space to work with for the big guy.
Not minimizing his game, just pointing out that it makes his life a lot easier. Once Harrison got the boot, everyone we played focused on Sampson. I thought he handled it well, all things considered.
-
You guys can take what I say and spin it this way, or that way which are many times valid, but do you ever notice how far some people go to make excuses for this team including the coach? Top 100's are obviously good recruits, but a top 10 kind of guy is in a totally different realm than a #96 guy. Of course exceptions exist, but the rule remains. His reputation is a great recruiter...so why can't he bring us McD's? I want to start bringing in the bonafide big names. The can't miss guys. I want to see our recruiting classes in the top 15 without having to use an asteriks or hear people say "well we technically were, but...". Why can't we ever just have a top class with no "but" words mentioned? As I said, Providence did it twice already...we have NYC to sell, and supposedly a great recruiter. No more excuses.
-
You guys can take what I say and spin it this way, or that way which are many times valid, but do you ever notice how far some people go to make excuses for this team including the coach? Top 100's are obviously good recruits, but a top 10 kind of guy is in a totally different realm than a #96 guy. Of course exceptions exist, but the rule remains. His reputation is a great recruiter...so why can't he bring us McD's? I want to start bringing in the bonafide big names. The can't miss guys. I want to see our recruiting classes in the top 15 without having to use an asteriks or hear people say "well we technically were, but...". Why can't we ever just have a top class with no "but" words mentioned? As I said, Providence did it twice already...we have NYC to sell, and supposedly a great recruiter. No more excuses.
He's had 2 recruiting classes here so far! First one was ranked #3 in the country. This year he has 1 ship , which just opened up!
There are what, 20 MCD AA a year? Seriously dude, chill out. You sounded like a spoiled, whiney child. I think you should take your own advice and find another avenue to throw your support behind. Trust me, STJ isn't going to give you want you are expecting..
-
You guys can take what I say and spin it this way, or that way which are many times valid, but do you ever notice how far some people go to make excuses for this team including the coach? Top 100's are obviously good recruits, but a top 10 kind of guy is in a totally different realm than a #96 guy. Of course exceptions exist, but the rule remains. His reputation is a great recruiter...so why can't he bring us McD's? I want to start bringing in the bonafide big names. The can't miss guys. I want to see our recruiting classes in the top 15 without having to use an asteriks or hear people say "well we technically were, but...". Why can't we ever just have a top class with no "but" words mentioned? As I said, Providence did it twice already...we have NYC to sell, and supposedly a great recruiter. No more excuses.
You are the only one putting asterisks and "buts" on these. Like boo said, maybe you wanna check out Kentucky.
-
You guys can take what I say and spin it this way, or that way which are many times valid, but do you ever notice how far some people go to make excuses for this team including the coach? Top 100's are obviously good recruits, but a top 10 kind of guy is in a totally different realm than a #96 guy. Of course exceptions exist, but the rule remains. His reputation is a great recruiter...so why can't he bring us McD's? I want to start bringing in the bonafide big names. The can't miss guys. I want to see our recruiting classes in the top 15 without having to use an asteriks or hear people say "well we technically were, but...". Why can't we ever just have a top class with no "but" words mentioned? As I said, Providence did it twice already...we have NYC to sell, and supposedly a great recruiter. No more excuses.
You are the only one putting asterisks and "buts" on these. Like boo said, maybe you wanna check out Kentucky.
Conveniently ignoring Providence and their ability to sign 2 MAJOR McD recruits as a worse program than us in a much smaller city with less resources and success.
-
Ledo and Dunn?
Ledo didn't play at providence, and likely won't ever.
Kris Dunn averaged 5 points a game this year...
Don't give me labels, give me guys that can perform on the court. Harrison > Dunn as a freshman and it isnt even close.
-
My bad. Thought this was the Rysheed Jordan thread but he has not been mentioned in the 30 new posts I have read. Less than 2 weeks to his decision date unless he pushes it back again. If we don't get him would like to bring in a specialist-shooter, rebounder, hustle guy or set up man.
-
You guys can take what I say and spin it this way, or that way which are many times valid, but do you ever notice how far some people go to make excuses for this team including the coach? Top 100's are obviously good recruits, but a top 10 kind of guy is in a totally different realm than a #96 guy. Of course exceptions exist, but the rule remains. His reputation is a great recruiter...so why can't he bring us McD's? I want to start bringing in the bonafide big names. The can't miss guys. I want to see our recruiting classes in the top 15 without having to use an asteriks or hear people say "well we technically were, but...". Why can't we ever just have a top class with no "but" words mentioned? As I said, Providence did it twice already...we have NYC to sell, and supposedly a great recruiter. No more excuses.
You are the only one putting asterisks and "buts" on these. Like boo said, maybe you wanna check out Kentucky.
Conveniently ignoring Providence and their ability to sign 2 MAJOR McD recruits as a worse program than us in a much smaller city with less resources and success.
Our two non-McDonalds AA's Harkless and Sampson won back to back Big East Rookie of the year awards. Needless to say they deserved to be McDonalds All Americans as did Harrison. Those guys don't deserve any asterisks. They are bonafide blue chippers. BTW, Rysheed Jordan is as good or better than half the guys I saw in the McD's game. Might want to out an asterisk there too, but he is also a blue chipper whether you believe it or not.
-
My bad. Thought this was the Rysheed Jordan thread but he has not been mentioned in the 30 new posts I have read. Less than 2 weeks to his decision date unless he pushes it back again. If we don't get him would like to bring in a specialist-shooter, rebounder, hustle guy or set up man.
What you expect when Joe is involved?
-
Tweeted by BlackJesus an hour ago: black jesus @sheedjordan 1h
ARE PHILLY IM GIVING A VERBAL COMMIT TO A COLLEGE ON THE 11th THIS MONTH!!!!!!!!!!!
-
ARE PHILLY translation please?
-
The 11th will be a Lavin bashing frenzy. Can't wait.
-
The 11th will be a Lavin bashing frenzy. Can't wait.
Why wait? If Lavin doesn't get Sheed he sucks as a recruiter! :)
-
You guys can take what I say and spin it this way, or that way which are many times valid, but do you ever notice how far some people go to make excuses for this team including the coach? Top 100's are obviously good recruits, but a top 10 kind of guy is in a totally different realm than a #96 guy. Of course exceptions exist, but the rule remains. His reputation is a great recruiter...so why can't he bring us McD's? I want to start bringing in the bonafide big names. The can't miss guys. I want to see our recruiting classes in the top 15 without having to use an asteriks or hear people say "well we technically were, but...". Why can't we ever just have a top class with no "but" words mentioned? As I said, Providence did it twice already...we have NYC to sell, and supposedly a great recruiter. No more excuses.
You are the only one putting asterisks and "buts" on these. Like boo said, maybe you wanna check out Kentucky.
Conveniently ignoring Providence and their ability to sign 2 MAJOR McD recruits as a worse program than us in a much smaller city with less resources and success.
Our two non-McDonalds AA's Harkless and Sampson won back to back Big East Rookie of the year awards. Needless to say they deserved to be McDonalds All Americans as did Harrison. Those guys don't deserve any asterisks. They are bonafide blue chippers. BTW, Rysheed Jordan is as good or better than half the guys I saw in the McD's game. Might want to out an asterisk there too, but he is also a blue chipper whether you believe it or not.
This is what I mean...you can't play that game. You can't just make stuff up how you see fit when talking about McDonald's All Americans. Harkless, Harrison, and Sampson are not McD AA's. You can't just say "oh, well Harkless would have been had they known his real potential!". The fact is whether they panned out or not, Providence still landed 2 of them. That's the point I was making. We are above Providence in both importance and significance in basketball with many more resources. So why can't we? Maybe I'm going too rank crazy here...I know plenty of great players come from 3 star rankings not in the top 100. We really need to evaluate talent better to get our shooters.
I apologize for going off topic, not that it matters because this board is clearly the breakfast club jock wannabes and still has a high school mentality when it comes to treating people with respect. Anyway, getting Jordan is our priority, and we need to sway him from Temple. Find a way Lavin.
-
St. John's IS in a different stratosphere than UCLA. UCLA is a BCS school, has way more prestige than us both academically and athletically. Recruiting at UCLA is MUCH easier than recruiting at St. John's where we had 1 good year in the past decade and can't even come close to their history. If he is truly a great recruiter, let's see him get McDonalds AA's here at SJ. Providence did it...they got 2. Why can't we?
If they can get 5 star guys so can we. In the grand scheme of things Lavin is a good recruiter, but I'm not seeing that high major talent i.e. Big East POY guys. True, Harkless might have been if he stayed, but he is really the only true stud we have had here under him. Sampson is good but needs to get a lot better...he gets a ton of rim on many shots and has that awkward release. I guess what I'm saying is, where are the McD AA's and the 5 star top 25 guys?
Exactly, so doesn't that make the caliber of players brought in even that more impressive?
Also, Jakarr was much better then McD all american Kris Dunn this year. Truth be told Jakarr was a 5 star player. Jakarr was the best player at Brewster last year which included 5 star Mitch McGarry and McD AA TJ Warren. Nerlens Noel was probably the only player in New England better then Jakarr. McD all americans are biased & subjective just as ESPN & Scout services are.
I apologize if I sound like a jerk or a know it all, but some of your statements are ridiculous
After watching McGarrybin this tournament, I would completely disagree
I'm a huge McGarry fan, I was hoping we would recruit him. I was talking last year when they played together at Brewster
-
Ledo and Dunn?
Ledo didn't play at providence, and likely won't ever.
Kris Dunn averaged 5 points a game this year...
Don't give me labels, give me guys that can perform on the court. Harrison > Dunn as a freshman and it isnt even close.
Definitely. STJ 2011 class > PC 2012 class and not even close so far. Oh and BTW Ledo wasn't an All American
-
The 11th will be a Lavin bashing frenzy. Can't wait.
Are we so sure he's not coming here? Amir leaves an open ship a day or two ago and now Rysheed moves up his commit date? Maybe just coincidence, but I'm not ready to concede just yet.
-
The 11th will be a Lavin bashing frenzy. Can't wait.
Are we so sure he's not coming here? Amir leaves an open ship a day or two ago and now Rysheed moves up his commit date? Maybe just coincidence, but I'm not ready to concede just yet.
Hopefully Alford didn't tell him to commit by the 11th or UCLA is moving on.
I have absolutely no clue what he will do, but I do know that even if he commits here, at least one poster will complain that we only brought in one new player.
-
no one is complaining about lavin and his recruiting prowess...but even the best thoroughbreds racing in the kentucky derby need to be prodded by the jockeys.
that's what fans are supposed to do.
-
Boeheim said the other day that half of the McD's kids stink. He's right.
Sampson and Harkless were absolutely good enough to be a McD's kid.
Elijah Ingram was a Mcd's kid. He was lousy. Although still better than Geno.
-
April 11 here we come;
http://www.rumbleinthegarden.com/st-johns-basketball-recruiting/2013/4/5/4186678/rysheed-jordan-recruiting-commitment-april-11-st-johns-ucla-temple (http://www.rumbleinthegarden.com/st-johns-basketball-recruiting/2013/4/5/4186678/rysheed-jordan-recruiting-commitment-april-11-st-johns-ucla-temple)
-
Boeheim said the other day that half of the McD's kids stink. He's right.
Does Jimmy B know you keep a picture of him on your night table and stare at it as you fall asleep every night?
-
Just thinking that if we get lucky with Sheed and he turns out to be one and done it's gonna take several miracles to field a team for 2014. No more Norm Roberts to blame for that.
-
Just thinking that if we get lucky with Sheed and he turns out to be one and done it's gonna take several miracles to field a team for 2014. No more Norm Roberts to blame for that.
Huh? ???
-
Just thinking that if we get lucky with Sheed and he turns out to be one and done it's gonna take several miracles to field a team for 2014. No more Norm Roberts to blame for that.
if we get lucky with Sheed and he turns out to be one and done, we will have a great year in 2013. its not a terrible trade.
-
Just thinking that if we get lucky with Sheed and he turns out to be one and done it's gonna take several miracles to field a team for 2014. No more Norm Roberts to blame for that.
Huh? ???
Exactly.
Only someone who INTENTIONALLY ROOTS FOR BAD THINGS FOR SJU comes up with this type of post.
Think about it. First he assumes that Jordan is here and is a 1 and done. Then he assumes that Sampson and Harrison are gone after next year. Then he assumes that Lavin cannot recruit anyone to replace them without a "miracle."
Then he assumes we will blame Norm Roberts.
Mind you none of these things are anywhere near happening or about to happen.
But he goes from one assumption to another assumption to another assumption to come to a NEGATIVE conclusion.
So a reasonable person does not come up with a post like this. Someone who has an agenda comes up with a post like this.
-
Just thinking that if we get lucky with Sheed and he turns out to be one and done it's gonna take several miracles to field a team for 2014. No more Norm Roberts to blame for that.
It won't take a miracle for Lavin to field a team for 2014-15. The guy can flat out recruit. But it will probably be back to "youngest team in America" rhetoric for at least that year.
-
Boeheim said the other day that half of the McD's kids stink. He's right.
Does Jimmy B know you keep a picture of him on your night table and stare at it as you fall asleep every night?
No. Sadly.
-
Just thinking that if we get lucky with Sheed and he turns out to be one and done it's gonna take several miracles to field a team for 2014. No more Norm Roberts to blame for that.
It won't take a miracle for Lavin to field a team for 2014-15. The guy can flat out recruit. But it will probably be back to "youngest team in America" rhetoric for at least that year.
Doubtful. 2015 will very likely have seniors Phil Green, Jamal Branch and Sir Dom Pointer. And Juniors Chris Obekpa, Felix Balamou, Max Hooper, Christian Jones, and David Lipscomb. 2015 will be a very "old" team - even with 3 or 4 incoming frosh.
-
Just thinking that if we get lucky with Sheed and he turns out to be one and done it's gonna take several miracles to field a team for 2014. No more Norm Roberts to blame for that.
It won't take a miracle for Lavin to field a team for 2014-15. The guy can flat out recruit. But it will probably be back to "youngest team in America" rhetoric for at least that year.
Doubtful. 2015 will very likely have seniors Phil Green, Jamal Branch and Sir Dom Pointer. And Juniors Chris Obekpa, Felix Balamou, Max Hooper, Christian Jones, and David Lipscomb. 2015 will be a very "old" team - even with 3 or 4 incoming frosh.
You wrote Harrison off?
-
St. John's IS in a different stratosphere than UCLA. UCLA is a BCS school, has way more prestige than us both academically and athletically. Recruiting at UCLA is MUCH easier than recruiting at St. John's where we had 1 good year in the past decade and can't even come close to their history. If he is truly a great recruiter, let's see him get McDonalds AA's here at SJ. Providence did it...they got 2. Why can't we?
If they can get 5 star guys so can we. In the grand scheme of things Lavin is a good recruiter, but I'm not seeing that high major talent i.e. Big East POY guys. True, Harkless might have been if he stayed, but he is really the only true stud we have had here under him. Sampson is good but needs to get a lot better...he gets a ton of rim on many shots and has that awkward release. I guess what I'm saying is, where are the McD AA's and the 5 star top 25 guys?
Exactly, so doesn't that make the caliber of players brought in even that more impressive?
Also, Jakarr was much better then McD all american Kris Dunn this year. Truth be told Jakarr was a 5 star player. Jakarr was the best player at Brewster last year which included 5 star Mitch McGarry and McD AA TJ Warren. Nerlens Noel was probably the only player in New England better then Jakarr. McD all americans are biased & subjective just as ESPN & Scout services are.
I apologize if I sound like a jerk or a know it all, but some of your statements are ridiculous
After watching McGarrybin this tournament, I would completely disagree
I saw Michigan four games this season. I was watching McGary his last season at Brewster due to JaKarr being there, but even more because Maryland was after him. Coming out of Brewster his last year, the summer AAU buzz had worn off, and McGary slipped a bit in performance.
I think JaKarr was Brewster's best player, as well as better than McGary this entire season (partly due to more PT). But McGary finished extremely strong in the tourney, so I can see why you stated that. Mitch has upped his level of play.
-
April 11 here we come;
http://www.rumbleinthegarden.com/st-johns-basketball-recruiting/2013/4/5/4186678/rysheed-jordan-recruiting-commitment-april-11-st-johns-ucla-temple (http://www.rumbleinthegarden.com/st-johns-basketball-recruiting/2013/4/5/4186678/rysheed-jordan-recruiting-commitment-april-11-st-johns-ucla-temple)
Back to Rysheed. Apparently the new date is 4/11. This is what he tweeted yesterday:
ARE PHILLY IM GIVING A VERBAL COMMIT TO A COLLEGE ON THE 11TH THIS MONTH!!!!!!!!
-
Just thinking that if we get lucky with Sheed and he turns out to be one and done it's gonna take several miracles to field a team for 2014. No more Norm Roberts to blame for that.
It won't take a miracle for Lavin to field a team for 2014-15. The guy can flat out recruit. But it will probably be back to "youngest team in America" rhetoric for at least that year.
Doubtful. 2015 will very likely have seniors Phil Green, Jamal Branch and Sir Dom Pointer. And Juniors Chris Obekpa, Felix Balamou, Max Hooper, Christian Jones, and David Lipscomb. 2015 will be a very "old" team - even with 3 or 4 incoming frosh.
I didn't mean to convey that I would agree with the young team excuse, but if we have to replace 4-5 starters, I certainly can see Lavin stressing that point to manage expectations for the 2014-15 team. Also, I wouldn't be shocked if Obekpa is gone after next year if he comes back with an all-around improved game.
-
Not sure if Greg knows anything, but he's given his prediction.
@GregLogan1 8h
Predicting Philadelphia PG Rysheed Jordan signs with St. John's next week. Steve Lavin is great closer. #stjbb
-
Not sure if Greg knows anything, but he's given his prediction.
@GregLogan1 8h
Predicting Philadelphia PG Rysheed Jordan signs with St. John's next week. Steve Lavin is great closer. #stjbb
He can't "sign" until the following week 4/17.
But here's hoping Greg knows something.
-
Not sure if Greg knows anything, but he's given his prediction.
@GregLogan1 8h
Predicting Philadelphia PG Rysheed Jordan signs with St. John's next week. Steve Lavin is great closer. #stjbb
Good predictor I am told. Ha
-
Not sure if Greg knows anything, but he's given his prediction.
@GregLogan1 8h
Predicting Philadelphia PG Rysheed Jordan signs with St. John's next week. Steve Lavin is great closer. #stjbb
Good predictor I am told. Ha
You telling us someone has whispered something to you or was that sarcasm?
-
Just thinking that if we get lucky with Sheed and he turns out to be one and done it's gonna take several miracles to field a team for 2014. No more Norm Roberts to blame for that.
Huh? ???
Exactly.
Only someone who INTENTIONALLY ROOTS FOR BAD THINGS FOR SJU comes up with this type of post.
Think about it. First he assumes that Jordan is here and is a 1 and done. Then he assumes that Sampson and Harrison are gone after next year. Then he assumes that Lavin cannot recruit anyone to replace them without a "miracle."
Then he assumes we will blame Norm Roberts.
Mind you none of these things are anywhere near happening or about to happen.
But he goes from one assumption to another assumption to another assumption to come to a NEGATIVE conclusion.
So a reasonable person does not come up with a post like this. Someone who has an agenda comes up with a post like this.
Every day last time around he'd write "I sure do wish we'd get some recruits" And he's already planning on doing it again a year in advance.
-
Wait until Lavin passes on recruiting Sean Evans, Jr. All hell will break loose.
-
Not sure if Greg knows anything, but he's given his prediction.
@GregLogan1 8h
Predicting Philadelphia PG Rysheed Jordan signs with St. John's next week. Steve Lavin is great closer. #stjbb
Good predictor I am told. Ha
You telling us someone has whispered something to you or was that sarcasm?
Not being sarcastic or otherwise, but fwiw it is second time I have heard this in last two days. That said, with this kid, who knows!
-
Just thinking that if we get lucky with Sheed and he turns out to be one and done it's gonna take several miracles to field a team for 2014. No more Norm Roberts to blame for that.
Gee you're smart. My point which you don't understand is that Sheed has been mentioned as a one and done talent. Having seen him I wouldn't be shocked. It's just that if he left along with Sampson, Obekpa, GG, Marco, DLo the cupboard gets pretty bare. Now if we had signed Lawrence we would have had at least one front court starter for 2014. At the moment there's noone. One and dones are nice but they leave so fast.....
Huh? ???
Exactly.
Only someone who INTENTIONALLY ROOTS FOR BAD THINGS FOR SJU comes up with this type of post.
Think about it. First he assumes that Jordan is here and is a 1 and done. Then he assumes that Sampson and Harrison are gone after next year. Then he assumes that Lavin cannot recruit anyone to replace them without a "miracle."
Then he assumes we will blame Norm Roberts.
Mind you none of these things are anywhere near happening or about to happen.
But he goes from one assumption to another assumption to another assumption to come to a NEGATIVE conclusion.
So a reasonable person does not come up with a post like this. Someone who has an agenda comes up with a post like this.
-
It fascinates me how people in this forum now consider McD AA's to be like receiving a participation medal. Really? No...really? For every guy you can name that wasn't a McD AA yet still played like one, I'm sure I can dig up a list and show you tons of lottery picks and future NBA superstars. Those are not top 50. Those are the cream of the crop. The honor roll of the honor roll. That's why it's a big deal when a player gets that distinction. I would try my luck with an all american EVERY time over trying to make Lavin find a diamond in the rough.
Jordan's choice will be interesting. I still feel like UCLA isn't out of it because recruits do not always make smart or logical choices. Temple is going to be in a bad conference with Tulsa, Tulane, East Carolina, SMU, UCF, etc. yet he shows lots of hometown loyalty. With him coming here, we become stacked if Harrison comes back. I'm sure Lavin is also telling him we need scoring in the worst way and he can fill a large void. I'd love to see him take Greene's place and make the shots Greene almost always misses.
McD AA's Include: LeBron James, Michael Jordan, Derrick Rose, Kevin Durant, Tyler Hansborough, Dwight Howard, Chris Paul, Amare Stoudamire, Carmelo Anthony, Kobe Bryant, Paul Pierce, Kevin Garnett, Vince Carter, Jason Kidd, Shaq, Chris Mullin, Patrick Ewing, Magic Johnson, Dominique Wilkins, Doc Rivers, etc.
...but yeah, McDonald's All Americans suck! Who needs a Michael Jordan? Not us...that's for sure!
-
It fascinates me how people in this forum now consider McD AA's to be like receiving a participation medal. Really? No...really? For every guy you can name that wasn't a McD AA yet still played like one, I'm sure I can dig up a list and show you tons of lottery picks and future NBA superstars. Those are not top 50. Those are the cream of the crop. The honor roll of the honor roll. That's why it's a big deal when a player gets that distinction. I would try my luck with an all american EVERY time over trying to make Lavin find a diamond in the rough.
Jordan's choice will be interesting. I still feel like UCLA isn't out of it because recruits do not always make smart or logical choices. Temple is going to be in a bad conference with Tulsa, Tulane, East Carolina, SMU, UCF, etc. yet he shows lots of hometown loyalty. With him coming here, we become stacked if Harrison comes back. I'm sure Lavin is also telling him we need scoring in the worst way and he can fill a large void. I'd love to see him take Greene's place and make the shots Greene almost always misses.
So why are you so big on Severe then? Is there something special about him that makes him the exception to your rankings requirement?
-
It fascinates me how people in this forum now consider McD AA's to be like receiving a participation medal. Really? No...really? For every guy you can name that wasn't a McD AA yet still played like one, I'm sure I can dig up a list and show you tons of lottery picks and future NBA superstars. Those are not top 50. Those are the cream of the crop. The honor roll of the honor roll. That's why it's a big deal when a player gets that distinction. I would try my luck with an all american EVERY time over trying to make Lavin find a diamond in the rough.
Jordan's choice will be interesting. I still feel like UCLA isn't out of it because recruits do not always make smart or logical choices. Temple is going to be in a bad conference with Tulsa, Tulane, East Carolina, SMU, UCF, etc. yet he shows lots of hometown loyalty. With him coming here, we become stacked if Harrison comes back. I'm sure Lavin is also telling him we need scoring in the worst way and he can fill a large void. I'd love to see him take Greene's place and make the shots Greene almost always misses.
So why are you so big on Severe then? Is there something special about him that makes him the exception to your rankings requirement?
Because he has been noted to have 1 extremely good skill: shooting. Shooting, shooting, and more shooting. That's what we need. Obviously I will take Jordan over him but Severe is a nice backup.
-
"Sources close to St. John’s indicate they are confident of landing the 6-foot-4 Philly Vaux Roberts guard, who is also considering Temple and UCLA."
“@AdamZagoria: Rysheed Jordan pushes up announcement date to next Thursday http://zagsblog.com/articles/rysheed-jordan-to-announce-thursday/ (http://zagsblog.com/articles/rysheed-jordan-to-announce-thursday/)”
-
"Sources close to St. John’s indicate they are confident of landing the 6-foot-4 Philly Vaux Roberts guard, who is also considering Temple and UCLA."
“@AdamZagoria: Rysheed Jordan pushes up announcement date to next Thursday http://zagsblog.com/articles/rysheed-jordan-to-announce-thursday/ (http://zagsblog.com/articles/rysheed-jordan-to-announce-thursday/)”
Atlanta chatter...
-
"Sources close to St. John’s indicate they are confident of landing the 6-foot-4 Philly Vaux Roberts guard, who is also considering Temple and UCLA."
“@AdamZagoria: Rysheed Jordan pushes up announcement date to next Thursday http://zagsblog.com/articles/rysheed-jordan-to-announce-thursday/ (http://zagsblog.com/articles/rysheed-jordan-to-announce-thursday/)”
He's going to Temple or UCLA [*trying to reverse the Zags jinx*]
-
"Sources close to St. John’s indicate they are confident of landing the 6-foot-4 Philly Vaux Roberts guard, who is also considering Temple and UCLA."
“@AdamZagoria: Rysheed Jordan pushes up announcement date to next Thursday http://zagsblog.com/articles/rysheed-jordan-to-announce-thursday/ (http://zagsblog.com/articles/rysheed-jordan-to-announce-thursday/)”
He's going to Temple or UCLA [*trying to reverse the Zags jinx*]
Excellent strategy Mike. "Reverse Doom"
-
"Sources close to St. John's confident"
Being confident of something doesn't mean it will happen or is likely to happen. No newsflash here, just saying we are still players essentially. What school would say "no, we are not confident in our chances"?
-
"Sources close to St. John’s indicate they are confident of landing the 6-foot-4 Philly Vaux Roberts guard, who is also considering Temple and UCLA."
“@AdamZagoria: Rysheed Jordan pushes up announcement date to next Thursday http://zagsblog.com/articles/rysheed-jordan-to-announce-thursday/ (http://zagsblog.com/articles/rysheed-jordan-to-announce-thursday/)”
First time I've heard we were leading...
this would be amazing news.
-
Just thinking that if we get lucky with Sheed and he turns out to be one and done it's gonna take several miracles to field a team for 2014. No more Norm Roberts to blame for that.
This is a joke, right?
-
"Sources close to St. John's confident"
Being confident of something doesn't mean it will happen or is likely to happen. No newsflash here, just saying we are still players essentially. What school would say "no, we are not confident in our chances"?
Joe shouldn't you be at the gym working on your guns for beach season?
-
Adding this guy would work wonders for morale
-
Adding this guy would work wonders for morale
Who's morale?
Fans?
Phil Greene?
Felix and Marco?
-
"Sources close to St. John's confident"
Being confident of something doesn't mean it will happen or is likely to happen. No newsflash here, just saying we are still players essentially. What school would say "no, we are not confident in our chances"?
Joe shouldn't you be at the gym working on your guns for beach season?
It's this old man's/boy's club that picks on Joe that is ruining this board. Can't you just respond to his post without ganging up on him?*
Sarcasm
-
Adding this guy would work wonders for morale
Who's morale?
Fans?
Phil Greene?
Felix and Marco?
The fans of course. I expect Felix and Marco gone
-
Adding this guy would work wonders for morale
Who's morale?
Fans?
Phil Greene?
Felix and Marco?
The fans of course. I expect Felix and Marco gone
How many more defections you expect?
-
Just those 2. No pt especially with Jordan on board. I'm hoping Jones returns
-
I thought someone was actually calling out the gezer club. I had a feeling it was sarcasm though, good one! Someone was almost not a douche!
Are you guys 17 or 40+ married with children? Can't tell.
-
Not sure if Greg knows anything, but he's given his prediction.
@GregLogan1 8h
Predicting Philadelphia PG Rysheed Jordan signs with St. John's next week. Steve Lavin is great closer. #stjbb
Good predictor I am told. Ha
You telling us someone has whispered something to you or was that sarcasm?
Not being sarcastic or otherwise, but fwiw it is second time I have heard this in last two days. That said, with this kid, who knows!
Thanks for the response paultzman. I wasn't intended to be negative in tone. Was just interested. Thanks for your input. Hope your sources are right.
-
Not sure if Greg knows anything, but he's given his prediction.
@GregLogan1 8h
Predicting Philadelphia PG Rysheed Jordan signs with St. John's next week. Steve Lavin is great closer. #stjbb
Good predictor I am told. Ha
You telling us someone has whispered something to you or was that sarcasm?
Not being sarcastic or otherwise, but fwiw it is second time I have heard this in last two days. That said, with this kid, who knows!
Thanks for the response paultzman. I wasn't intended to be negative in tone. Was just interested. Thanks for your input. Hope your sources are right.
Didn't take it as negative, thanks!
-
We were still in the top 3 for Kyle Anderson before he announced, but no way the staff thought they were confident getting him. Sometimes you see the writing on the wall I think. If they are confident with Jordan I'll takke that as a good sign. However it would be foolish to think he's coming here until he signs. Still days to go and anything can happen.
-
Temple fans will ****.
Dave is right they are getting Brown a terrific young guard.
-
If Jordan comes is he going to replace Branch or Greene do you think? I would imagine Greene so we can have Branch, Harrison, Sampson, Jordan, and Sanchez. Greene off the bench would help limit his shots and maybe let him heal up a bit.
-
If Jordan comes is he going to replace Branch or Greene do you think? I would imagine Greene so we can have Branch, Harrison, Sampson, Jordan, and Sanchez. Greene off the bench would help limit his shots and maybe let him heal up a bit.
If Greene doesn't heal up by next October, they should send him to Lourdes.
-
Just those 2. No pt especially with Jordan on board. I'm hoping Jones returns
Marco has one year left so I doubt he will leave. We are the only program that have to play 12 players 15 minutes each or else they will transfer, smh. Amil Jefferson hardley played this year for Duke, and they only have a 7 man rotation. Now I know STJ is not Duke, but Felix also does not = Amil. Most of these kids will stay four years unless they are pushed out.
-
If Jordan comes is he going to replace Branch or Greene do you think? I would imagine Greene so we can have Branch, Harrison, Sampson, Jordan, and Sanchez. Greene off the bench would help limit his shots and maybe let him heal up a bit.
I would like to see Jordan first off the bench to spell Branch, which would mean Branch is playing really well.
-
Just watched more tape on him...not pretending to be a scout by any means so take it FWIW. The kid can shoot the ball...very smooth, effortless stroke. Can create space, saw a few cross-over fadeaway's that he made perfectly. Can dish it at the last second, but if given the green light he will invite contact and still makes them. That bodes well for a physical conference with some big bangers. I'll admit when we recruit players they tend to look better in the tape due to biases, but the kid looks promising.
-
If Jordan comes is he going to replace Branch or Greene do you think? I would imagine Greene so we can have Branch, Harrison, Sampson, Jordan, and Sanchez. Greene off the bench would help limit his shots and maybe let him heal up a bit.
If Greene doesn't heal up by next October, they should send him to Lourdes.
LMAO! Thanks for the afternoon chuckle Paultz.
-
The 11th will be a Lavin bashing frenzy. Can't wait.
Are we so sure he's not coming here? Amir leaves an open ship a day or two ago and now Rysheed moves up his commit date? Maybe just coincidence, but I'm not ready to concede just yet.
I'm not. I've been programmed to be slightly negative is all. However, I am easily swayed to positivity and the posts today about a potential STJ lean for Jordan has put me in a terrific mood. I hope the chatter is correct.
-
Just watched more tape on him...not pretending to be a scout by any means so take it FWIW. The kid can shoot the ball...very smooth, effortless stroke. Can create space, saw a few cross-over fadeaway's that he made perfectly. Can dish it at the last second, but if given the green light he will invite contact and still makes them. That bodes well for a physical conference with some big bangers. I'll admit when we recruit players they tend to look better in the tape due to biases, but the kid looks promising.
Jordan is a stud. Kid has amazing athleticism and strength. Excellent passer and more importantly penetrator. Very active guard. We will have Jordan and Branch playing PG and hopefully D'Lo and Greene at SG. If we land Rysheed, our backcourt becomes a LOT more dynamic than we are now. Needs to be guarded unlike some of our other guards.
-
Watching some clips. He seems to have a tremendous ability to get into the paint and finish with contact. Strong kid. This would be a huge get. If Harrison comes back we might have some real excitement around here. Close the deal Steve!
-
Rather than transfer, offer redshirt to Felix, Marco, Christian. They would have to sit a year for transferring anyway. Then they come back in 2014 after Sanchez, Jakarr and maybe Obekpa leave.
-
Rather than transfer, offer redshirt to Felix, Marco, Christian. They would have to sit a year for transferring anyway. Then they come back in 2014 after Sanchez, Jakarr and maybe Obekpa leave.
Don't u want Marco and his ship gone. ? What does he do well? Coach is going to bring us good players.
-
Pretty sad how casually some y'all talk about uprooting the lives and education of young peeps on teams y'all supposedly root for.
-
Pretty sad how casually some y'all talk about uprooting the lives and education of young peeps on teams y'all supposedly root for.
Uprooting lives? Lots of players transfer for more PT. It's not uncommon. Education? These guys are here for basketball primarily. Not education first. At this level they play to try and get paid for it whether that means a small league overseas or the NBA. Transferring is part of the game in college basketball.
-
Pretty sad how casually some y'all talk about uprooting the lives and education of young peeps on teams y'all supposedly root for.
They are commodities, Choz. Mere pawns for our entertainment---and in some cases, our sanity.
-
Pretty sad how casually some y'all talk about uprooting the lives and education of young peeps on teams y'all supposedly root for.
It's not so black and white. Don't you think a kid would rather know if it's unlikely he'd get minutes than find out while sitting on the bench? For Marco, playing at a D2 or D3 school makes sense. The Big East ate him alive.
Who does it hurt if he transfers? Does he not get a degree from St.John's? Is that what you're talking about? If so, I think he'll be okay with a degree from another school.
-
Just thinking that if we get lucky with Sheed and he turns out to be one and done it's gonna take several miracles to field a team for 2014. No more Norm Roberts to blame for that.
Yes, we know...in front of every silver lining is a dark cloud
-
I look at landing Rysheed as an unexpected bonus. If it happens, then wow, great! But I'm not expecting it, he's seemed like a Philly(Temple) lean all along.
We have 12 returning players as of now, there's no reason to get on coach if Jordan doesn't pick us on the 11th.
Now, if September rolls around and D'angelo is starting his first semester at Baylor and we're not involved with any forwards/centers for the '14 class.... well, then I'll be more critical of coach.
Right now, Jordan is a bonus. A great bonus to get, but not something that's expected.
-
I may be wrong, but I think you guys are misinterpreting what Choz is trying to say.
Nothing wrong with transferring if its of mutual benefit.
I think what he's referring to is how we as fans just sit here and casually say, get the kid out of here, or he should transfer after one season. If the kid wants too fine. You guys cry about lack of stability out of one side of your mouth and then when a kid doesn't prove he belongs after a short stint, you want him out of the program for good.
David Cain would have been kicked to the curb by todays fanbase in a heartbeat. It's ok for a kid to be a role player or bench player for 4 years if the kid wants to be here. He earned the scholly.
-
If Jordan comes is he going to replace Branch or Greene do you think? I would imagine Greene so we can have Branch, Harrison, Sampson, Jordan, and Sanchez. Greene off the bench would help limit his shots and maybe let him heal up a bit.
If Greene doesn't heal up by next October, they should send him to Lourdes.
And while he's there, he should have his eyesight improved.
-
If I were a star basketball player, I would have my entourage spreading misinformation everywhere so that my choice came as a shock to the experts.
I'm not going to believe he's ours until Lavin has an LOI in hand.
-
I may be wrong, but I think you guys are misinterpreting what Choz is trying to say.
Nothing wrong with transferring if its of mutual benefit.
I think what he's referring to is how we as fans just sit here and casually say, get the kid out of here, or he should transfer after one season. If the kid wants too fine. You guys cry about lack of stability out of one side of your mouth and then when a kid doesn't prove he belongs after a short stint, you want him out of the program for good.
David Cain would have been kicked to the curb by todays fanbase in a heartbeat. It's ok for a kid to be a role player or bench player for 4 years if the kid wants to be here. He earned the scholly.
Boo once again comes thru wit the wisdom.
-
I may be wrong, but I think you guys are misinterpreting what Choz is trying to say.
Nothing wrong with transferring if its of mutual benefit.
I think what he's referring to is how we as fans just sit here and casually say, get the kid out of here, or he should transfer after one season. If the kid wants too fine. You guys cry about lack of stability out of one side of your mouth and then when a kid doesn't prove he belongs after a short stint, you want him out of the program for good.
David Cain would have been kicked to the curb by todays fanbase in a heartbeat. It's ok for a kid to be a role player or bench player for 4 years if the kid wants to be here. He earned the scholly.
Boo once again comes thru wit the wisdom.
?
Agree with boo and Choz here. It's not game of thrones. These are kids. I loved having Amir here. Great kid. Great representative of the school. Hate to lose him. He's already a pro athlete. Wish these kids the absolute best. They are just kids with hard decisions to make. Lord knows I had to make them too.
-
I may be wrong, but I think you guys are misinterpreting what Choz is trying to say.
Nothing wrong with transferring if its of mutual benefit.
I think what he's referring to is how we as fans just sit here and casually say, get the kid out of here, or he should transfer after one season. If the kid wants too fine. You guys cry about lack of stability out of one side of your mouth and then when a kid doesn't prove he belongs after a short stint, you want him out of the program for good.
David Cain would have been kicked to the curb by todays fanbase in a heartbeat. It's ok for a kid to be a role player or bench player for 4 years if the kid wants to be here. He earned the scholly.
A couple of the idiots on this board would be whining about a young Mark Jackson missing too many shots. The same guy drooling over Jordan will be crying next season if Jordan fails to live up to his highlight clips.
-
I may be wrong, but I think you guys are misinterpreting what Choz is trying to say.
Nothing wrong with transferring if its of mutual benefit.
I think what he's referring to is how we as fans just sit here and casually say, get the kid out of here, or he should transfer after one season. If the kid wants too fine. You guys cry about lack of stability out of one side of your mouth and then when a kid doesn't prove he belongs after a short stint, you want him out of the program for good.
David Cain would have been kicked to the curb by todays fanbase in a heartbeat. It's ok for a kid to be a role player or bench player for 4 years if the kid wants to be here. He earned the scholly.
Boo once again comes thru wit the wisdom.
?
Agree with boo and Choz here. It's not game of thrones. These are kids. I loved having Amir here. Great kid. Great representative of the school. Hate to lose him. He's already a pro athlete. Wish these kids the absolute best. They are just kids with hard decisions to make. Lord knows I had to make them too.
Just look at it as a business decision. They are not here to be your best buds, they are here to play well and help us win. Makes it a lot easier that way IMO. There are millions of "nice guys". I want great basketball players who can shoot. He didn't fit that. Good luck to him and in Lavin we trust...get Jordan!
-
Just look at it as a business decision. They are not here to be your best buds, they are here to play well and help us win. Makes it a lot easier that way IMO. There are millions of "nice guys". I want great basketball players who can shoot. He didn't fit that. Good luck to him and in Lavin we trust...get Jordan!
Great point, Joe. You are obviously destined for success in the professional world.
We don't need marginal players. We need 13 superstars---as we shorten the rotation to 8 men.
-
I may be wrong, but I think you guys are misinterpreting what Choz is trying to say.
Nothing wrong with transferring if its of mutual benefit.
I think what he's referring to is how we as fans just sit here and casually say, get the kid out of here, or he should transfer after one season. If the kid wants too fine. You guys cry about lack of stability out of one side of your mouth and then when a kid doesn't prove he belongs after a short stint, you want him out of the program for good.
David Cain would have been kicked to the curb by todays fanbase in a heartbeat. It's ok for a kid to be a role player or bench player for 4 years if the kid wants to be here. He earned the scholly.
Boo once again comes thru wit the wisdom.
?
Agree with boo and Choz here. It's not game of thrones. These are kids. I loved having Amir here. Great kid. Great representative of the school. Hate to lose him. He's already a pro athlete. Wish these kids the absolute best. They are just kids with hard decisions to make. Lord knows I had to make them too.
Just look at it as a business decision. They are not here to be your best buds, they are here to play well and help us win. Makes it a lot easier that way IMO. There are millions of "nice guys". I want great basketball players who can shoot. He didn't fit that. Good luck to him and in Lavin we trust...get Jordan!
Isn't Jordan's shooting ability one of his weaknesses?
-
Rather than transfer, offer redshirt to Felix, Marco, Christian. They would have to sit a year for transferring anyway. Then they come back in 2014 after Sanchez, Jakarr and maybe Obekpa leave.
Don't know why so many on this site are down on Felix. With the exception of Jakar and Obekpa, Felix is thought by many in the know, coaches etc. to have the most upside on the team. He just needs the playing time.
-
We were still in the top 3 for Kyle Anderson before he announced, but no way the staff thought they were confident getting him. Sometimes you see the writing on the wall I think. If they are confident with Jordan I'll takke that as a good sign. However it would be foolish to think he's coming here until he signs. Still days to go and anything can happen.
Agree with the above. We're we not also guaranteed by some posters that Lawrence was a done deal as well. It ain't over till the fat lady sings or at least until she signs a LOI.
-
We were still in the top 3 for Kyle Anderson before he announced, but no way the staff thought they were confident getting him. Sometimes you see the writing on the wall I think. If they are confident with Jordan I'll takke that as a good sign. However it would be foolish to think he's coming here until he signs. Still days to go and anything can happen.
Agree with the above. We're we not also guaranteed by some posters that Lawrence was a done deal as well. It ain't over till the fat lady sings or at least until she signs a LOI.
Recent comments reflect reporters touting SJU staff confidence in getting RS, nothing more, nothing less. Sounds like we remain in this, but I for one am cautiously optimistic. That said, would not be shocked not to get him. We'll see.
-
We were still in the top 3 for Kyle Anderson before he announced, but no way the staff thought they were confident getting him. Sometimes you see the writing on the wall I think. If they are confident with Jordan I'll takke that as a good sign. However it would be foolish to think he's coming here until he signs. Still days to go and anything can happen.
Agree with the above. We're we not also guaranteed by some posters that Lawrence was a done deal as well. It ain't over till the fat lady sings or at least until she signs a LOI.
Recent comments reflect reporters touting SJU staff confidence in getting RS, nothing more, nothing less. Sounds like we remain in this, but I for one am cautiously optimistic. That said, would not be shocked not to get him. We'll see.
i know most guys will say twitter is not a good indication of what's on a kid's mind, but if you follow enough, you can start to see trends that draw to logical conclusions. kids use it as a platform to express themselves. happened with kyle and most recently happened with amir (he hinted at leaving a week or so before he announced). with that said, i have little confidence Sheed commits to us. my money is on Temple.
-
We were still in the top 3 for Kyle Anderson before he announced, but no way the staff thought they were confident getting him. Sometimes you see the writing on the wall I think. If they are confident with Jordan I'll takke that as a good sign. However it would be foolish to think he's coming here until he signs. Still days to go and anything can happen.
Agree with the above. We're we not also guaranteed by some posters that Lawrence was a done deal as well. It ain't over till the fat lady sings or at least until she signs a LOI.
Recent comments reflect reporters touting SJU staff confidence in getting RS, nothing more, nothing less. Sounds like we remain in this, but I for one am cautiously optimistic. That said, would not be shocked not to get him. We'll see.
i know most guys will say twitter is not a good indication of what's on a kid's mind, but if you follow enough, you can start to see trends that draw to logical conclusions. kids use it as a platform to express themselves. happened with kyle and most recently happened with amir (he hinted at leaving a week or so before he announced). with that said, i have little confidence Sheed commits to us. my money is on Temple.
What makes you say that? And what twitter comments are you referring to? I think hes kept his recruitment close to the vest and hasnt tipped his hand except for his 3 finalists. IMO its between us and Temple and could go either way.
-
He's definitely is getting some pressure from Philly. Wyatt has tweeted him a few times about Temple.
-
We were still in the top 3 for Kyle Anderson before he announced, but no way the staff thought they were confident getting him. Sometimes you see the writing on the wall I think. If they are confident with Jordan I'll takke that as a good sign. However it would be foolish to think he's coming here until he signs. Still days to go and anything can happen.
Agree with the above. We're we not also guaranteed by some posters that Lawrence was a done deal as well. It ain't over till the fat lady sings or at least until she signs a LOI.
Recent comments reflect reporters touting SJU staff confidence in getting RS, nothing more, nothing less. Sounds like we remain in this, but I for one am cautiously optimistic. That said, would not be shocked not to get him. We'll see.
I am hoping for the best but am afraid to get excited at this point cause if we don't get him, the let down will be a bit much to take after this past hoops season.
-
We were still in the top 3 for Kyle Anderson before he announced, but no way the staff thought they were confident getting him. Sometimes you see the writing on the wall I think. If they are confident with Jordan I'll takke that as a good sign. However it would be foolish to think he's coming here until he signs. Still days to go and anything can happen.
Agree with the above. We're we not also guaranteed by some posters that Lawrence was a done deal as well. It ain't over till the fat lady sings or at least until she signs a LOI.
Recent comments reflect reporters touting SJU staff confidence in getting RS, nothing more, nothing less. Sounds like we remain in this, but I for one am cautiously optimistic. That said, would not be shocked not to get him. We'll see.
I am hoping for the best but am afraid to get excited at this point cause if we don't get him, the let down will be a bit much to take after this past hoops season.
It is so motivating to have you in our corner Linda. Inspiring!
-
A scary thought...if Jordan does in fact commit to Temple, that will mean that top players actually DO stay home. :o Something we wouldn't know about.
-
We were still in the top 3 for Kyle Anderson before he announced, but no way the staff thought they were confident getting him. Sometimes you see the writing on the wall I think. If they are confident with Jordan I'll takke that as a good sign. However it would be foolish to think he's coming here until he signs. Still days to go and anything can happen.
Agree with the above. We're we not also guaranteed by some posters that Lawrence was a done deal as well. It ain't over till the fat lady sings or at least until she signs a LOI.
Recent comments reflect reporters touting SJU staff confidence in getting RS, nothing more, nothing less. Sounds like we remain in this, but I for one am cautiously optimistic. That said, would not be shocked not to get him. We'll see.
I am hoping for the best but am afraid to get excited at this point cause if we don't get him, the let down will be a bit much to take after this past hoops season.
It is so motivating to have you in our corner Linda. Inspiring!
+10000000. You can almost feel the crocodile tears falling....
-
We were still in the top 3 for Kyle Anderson before he announced, but no way the staff thought they were confident getting him. Sometimes you see the writing on the wall I think. If they are confident with Jordan I'll takke that as a good sign. However it would be foolish to think he's coming here until he signs. Still days to go and anything can happen.
Agree with the above. We're we not also guaranteed by some posters that Lawrence was a done deal as well. It ain't over till the fat lady sings or at least until she signs a LOI.
Recent comments reflect reporters touting SJU staff confidence in getting RS, nothing more, nothing less. Sounds like we remain in this, but I for one am cautiously optimistic. That said, would not be shocked not to get him. We'll see.
i know most guys will say twitter is not a good indication of what's on a kid's mind, but if you follow enough, you can start to see trends that draw to logical conclusions. kids use it as a platform to express themselves. happened with kyle and most recently happened with amir (he hinted at leaving a week or so before he announced). with that said, i have little confidence Sheed commits to us. my money is on Temple.
What did Amir say that hinted something.
-
o
We were still in the top 3 for Kyle Anderson before he announced, but no way the staff thought they were confident getting him. Sometimes you see the writing on the wall I think. If they are confident with Jordan I'll takke that as a good sign. However it would be foolish to think he's coming here until he signs. Still days to go and anything can happen.
Agree with the above. We're we not also guaranteed by some posters that Lawrence was a done deal as well. It ain't over till the fat lady sings or at least until she signs a LOI.
Recent comments reflect reporters touting SJU staff confidence in getting RS, nothing more, nothing less. Sounds like we remain in this, but I for one am cautiously optimistic. That said, would not be shocked not to get him. We'll see.
i know most guys will say twitter is not a good indication of what's on a kid's mind, but if you follow enough, you can start to see trends that draw to logical conclusions. kids use it as a platform to express themselves. happened with kyle and most recently happened with amir (he hinted at leaving a week or so before he announced). with that said, i have little confidence Sheed commits to us. my money is on Temple.
What did Amir say that hinted something.
Don't remember exact quote, but said something about making tough decision
-
A scary thought...if Jordan does in fact commit to Temple, that will mean that top players actually DO stay home. :o Something we wouldn't know about.
Where was Harkless from?
-
A scary thought...if Jordan does in fact commit to Temple, that will mean that top players actually DO stay home. :o Something we wouldn't know about.
Where was Harkless from?
And Obeka, Felix, and Orlando
-
A scary thought...if Jordan does in fact commit to Temple, that will mean that top players actually DO stay home. :o Something we wouldn't know about.
Where was Harkless from?
And Obeka, Felix, and Orlando
Honestly I don't really consider them NY'ers.
-
A scary thought...if Jordan does in fact commit to Temple, that will mean that top players actually DO stay home. :o Something we wouldn't know about.
Where was Harkless from?
And Obeka, Felix, and Orlando
Honestly I don't really consider them NY'ers.
They are not New York City kids. They are kids, or in Sanchez' case grown men who happen to be playing close by.
We should strive to be in a place where local kids dream of going to St.John's, and not some worthless dirtbag Midwestern hell hole. We would never take only city kids, but rather pick and choose. These kids think they're all NBA all stars, when in fact, hardly any even get significant minutes in the league, let alone make it.
Expanding our recruiting to the states across the country is the best example of how Lavin has changed the face of our program. Now we just have win because of it, and we're golden.
-
A scary thought...if Jordan does in fact commit to Temple, that will mean that top players actually DO stay home. :o Something we wouldn't know about.
Where was Harkless from?
And Obeka, Felix, and Orlando
Honestly I don't really consider them NY'ers.
They are not New York City kids. They are kids, or in Sanchez' case grown men who happen to be playing close by.
We should strive to be in a place where local kids dream of going to St.John's, and not some worthless dirtbag Midwestern hell hole. We would never take only city kids, but rather pick and choose. These kids think they're all NBA all stars, when in fact, hardly any even get significant minutes in the league, let alone make it.
Expanding our recruiting to the states across the country is the best example of how Lavin has changed the face of our program. Now we just have win because of it, and we're golden.
Poison, you have been on point with your analysis and comments the last few weeks. I've agreed with just about every post.
-
A scary thought...if Jordan does in fact commit to Temple, that will mean that top players actually DO stay home. :o Something we wouldn't know about.
Where was Harkless from?
Queens but I believe he was barely in the top 50 at #43 or something. Jordan is around top 25 and would be the best recruit Lavin has gotten rank wise for us.
Felix, Obekpa, and Sanchez are not even NYC area kids. What are you talking about? They also don't fall under the "top recruit" part that I mentioned.
-
A scary thought...if Jordan does in fact commit to Temple, that will mean that top players actually DO stay home. :o Something we wouldn't know about.
Where was Harkless from?
Queens but I believe he was barely in the top 50 at #43 or something. Jordan is around top 25 and would be the best recruit Lavin has gotten rank wise for us.
Felix, Obekpa, and Sanchez are not even NYC area kids. What are you talking about? They also don't fall under the "top recruit" part that I mentioned.
Pelle was 23
-
A scary thought...if Jordan does in fact commit to Temple, that will mean that top players actually DO stay home. :o Something we wouldn't know about.
Where was Harkless from?
Queens but I believe he was barely in the top 50 at #43 or something. Jordan is around top 25 and would be the best recruit Lavin has gotten rank wise for us.
Felix, Obekpa, and Sanchez are not even NYC area kids. What are you talking about? They also don't fall under the "top recruit" part that I mentioned.
Your posts are insufferable. I suggest switching your rooting interests to Kentucky because you will be disappointed every year if harkless isn't good enough NY talent for your taste. Obekpa and Sanchez were highly coveted recruits that St Johns routinely missed on prior to Lavin. Wake up
-
A scary thought...if Jordan does in fact commit to Temple, that will mean that top players actually DO stay home. :o Something we wouldn't know about.
Where was Harkless from?
Queens but I believe he was barely in the top 50 at #43 or something. Jordan is around top 25 and would be the best recruit Lavin has gotten rank wise for us.
Felix, Obekpa, and Sanchez are not even NYC area kids. What are you talking about? They also don't fall under the "top recruit" part that I mentioned.
Give it a break. Top 50 is fantastic. If Harkless was coming out of high school this year and Lavin didn't get him, would it not be a big deal? I mean it's not like he's a top recruit or anything..
-
A scary thought...if Jordan does in fact commit to Temple, that will mean that top players actually DO stay home. :o Something we wouldn't know about.
Where was Harkless from?
Queens but I believe he was barely in the top 50 at #43 or something. Jordan is around top 25 and would be the best recruit Lavin has gotten rank wise for us.
Felix, Obekpa, and Sanchez are not even NYC area kids. What are you talking about? They also don't fall under the "top recruit" part that I mentioned.
Joe XII, are you that little guy in North Korea being a nuisance?
-
A scary thought...if Jordan does in fact commit to Temple, that will mean that top players actually DO stay home. :o Something we wouldn't know about.
Where was Harkless from?
And Obeka, Felix, and Orlando
Honestly I don't really consider them NY'ers.
You might not consider them NY'ers, but they consider themselves new yorkers. I believe all 3 of them said something about wanting to stay close to home, or a place they consider home.
-
A scary thought...if Jordan does in fact commit to Temple, that will mean that top players actually DO stay home. :o Something we wouldn't know about.
Where was Harkless from?
And Obeka, Felix, and Orlando
Honestly I don't really consider them NY'ers.
You might not consider them NY'ers, but they consider themselves new yorkers. I believe all 3 of them said something about wanting to stay close to home, or a place they consider home.
That is true. They are new to a foreign country so yes staying close to home would make sense instead of learning a whole new place again.
But when posters here yearn for NY'ers they want a kid from the Bx, Queens or Brooklyn that has cut their teeth in the PSAL or CHSAA. Not saying I agree with it but thats the NY kid people have that infatuation with.
Its funny actually a school like OSNA will continue to get foreign players which could bode well for us while the rest of those born and bred NY'ers are leaving town for high schools and prep schools elsewhere.
-
I def consider Obekpa and Felix NY kids. They played at least 2 years at OSNA didn't they?
-
What I said was true...those 3 players were NOT from the NYC area. Some of them played JUCO or other levels in the NYC area, but are not from there. Aren't Obekpa and Felix from Africa? And Sanchez is from DR. Facts don't seem to matter to some of you...just who's posting them does. Harkless is a VERY good recruit obviously...but like I said Jordan would be the BEST recruit Lavin ever pulled for us if he comes ranking wise. I love Harkless but I think some people overrate him at the college level. He is doing great in the NBA right now, but as a rookie he wasn't amazing. He had a few 30 pt monster games, but he couldn't shoot for his life and Harrison was the clear go to guy even with him here.
There is talk that Jordan will be upgraded to a 5 star prospect now. We have yet to have one under Lavin. All I'm saying is, if he goes to Temple it's a wakeup call that we need to get NYC area's best players i.e. Calhoun, McCollough, Lawrence, etc. to be more loyal. What that takes I don't know, but we have to own NYC's best before we can be dominant again.
-
What I said was true...those 3 players were NOT from the NYC area. Some of them played JUCO or other levels in the NYC area, but are not from there. Aren't Obekpa and Felix from Africa? And Sanchez is from DR. Facts don't seem to matter to some of you...just who's posting them does. Harkless is a VERY good recruit obviously...but like I said Jordan would be the BEST recruit Lavin ever pulled for us if he comes ranking wise. I love Harkless but I think some people overrate him at the college level. He is doing great in the NBA right now, but as a rookie he wasn't amazing. He had a few 30 pt monster games, but he couldn't shoot for his life and Harrison was the clear go to guy even with him here.
There is talk that Jordan will be upgraded to a 5 star prospect now. We have yet to have one under Lavin. All I'm saying is, if he goes to Temple it's a wakeup call that we need to get NYC area's best players i.e. Calhoun, McCollough, Lawrence, etc. to be more loyal. What that takes I don't know, but we have to own NYC's best before we can be dominant again.
Joe, count stars at your leisure;
http://espn.go.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/player/_/id/141635/rysheed-jordan (http://espn.go.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/player/_/id/141635/rysheed-jordan)
-
What I said was true...those 3 players were NOT from the NYC area. Some of them played JUCO or other levels in the NYC area, but are not from there. Aren't Obekpa and Felix from Africa? And Sanchez is from DR. Facts don't seem to matter to some of you...just who's posting them does. Harkless is a VERY good recruit obviously...but like I said Jordan would be the BEST recruit Lavin ever pulled for us if he comes ranking wise. I love Harkless but I think some people overrate him at the college level. He is doing great in the NBA right now, but as a rookie he wasn't amazing. He had a few 30 pt monster games, but he couldn't shoot for his life and Harrison was the clear go to guy even with him here.
There is talk that Jordan will be upgraded to a 5 star prospect now. We have yet to have one under Lavin. All I'm saying is, if he goes to Temple it's a wakeup call that we need to get NYC area's best players i.e. Calhoun, McCollough, Lawrence, etc. to be more loyal. What that takes I don't know, but we have to own NYC's best before we can be dominant again.
Joe, count stars at your leisure;
http://espn.go.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/player/_/id/141635/rysheed-jordan (http://espn.go.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/player/_/id/141635/rysheed-jordan)
Only 2nd best player in Pennsylvania?
I want the 1st
-
What I said was true...those 3 players were NOT from the NYC area. Some of them played JUCO or other levels in the NYC area, but are not from there. Aren't Obekpa and Felix from Africa? And Sanchez is from DR. Facts don't seem to matter to some of you...just who's posting them does. Harkless is a VERY good recruit obviously...but like I said Jordan would be the BEST recruit Lavin ever pulled for us if he comes ranking wise. I love Harkless but I think some people overrate him at the college level. He is doing great in the NBA right now, but as a rookie he wasn't amazing. He had a few 30 pt monster games, but he couldn't shoot for his life and Harrison was the clear go to guy even with him here.
There is talk that Jordan will be upgraded to a 5 star prospect now. We have yet to have one under Lavin. All I'm saying is, if he goes to Temple it's a wakeup call that we need to get NYC area's best players i.e. Calhoun, McCollough, Lawrence, etc. to be more loyal. What that takes I don't know, but we have to own NYC's best before we can be dominant again.
Joe, count stars at your leisure;
http://espn.go.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/player/_/id/141635/rysheed-jordan (http://espn.go.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/player/_/id/141635/rysheed-jordan)
Only 2nd best player in Pennsylvania?
I want the 1st
Lavin has never gotten a # 1 rated player in Pa. Or Montana for that matter. Joe XIV is on to something.
-
What I said was true...those 3 players were NOT from the NYC area. Some of them played JUCO or other levels in the NYC area, but are not from there. Aren't Obekpa and Felix from Africa? And Sanchez is from DR. Facts don't seem to matter to some of you...just who's posting them does. Harkless is a VERY good recruit obviously...but like I said Jordan would be the BEST recruit Lavin ever pulled for us if he comes ranking wise. I love Harkless but I think some people overrate him at the college level. He is doing great in the NBA right now, but as a rookie he wasn't amazing. He had a few 30 pt monster games, but he couldn't shoot for his life and Harrison was the clear go to guy even with him here.
There is talk that Jordan will be upgraded to a 5 star prospect now. We have yet to have one under Lavin. All I'm saying is, if he goes to Temple it's a wakeup call that we need to get NYC area's best players i.e. Calhoun, McCollough, Lawrence, etc. to be more loyal. What that takes I don't know, but we have to own NYC's best before we can be dominant again.
Joe, count stars at your leisure;
http://espn.go.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/player/_/id/141635/rysheed-jordan (http://espn.go.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/player/_/id/141635/rysheed-jordan)
Well look at that, he's now 5 stars. If Temple can land one there is no reason we can't. Is that so crazy to say? Especially considering we have a coach well known for his recruiting ability.
-
What I said was true...those 3 players were NOT from the NYC area. Some of them played JUCO or other levels in the NYC area, but are not from there. Aren't Obekpa and Felix from Africa? And Sanchez is from DR. Facts don't seem to matter to some of you...just who's posting them does. Harkless is a VERY good recruit obviously...but like I said Jordan would be the BEST recruit Lavin ever pulled for us if he comes ranking wise. I love Harkless but I think some people overrate him at the college level. He is doing great in the NBA right now, but as a rookie he wasn't amazing. He had a few 30 pt monster games, but he couldn't shoot for his life and Harrison was the clear go to guy even with him here.
There is talk that Jordan will be upgraded to a 5 star prospect now. We have yet to have one under Lavin. All I'm saying is, if he goes to Temple it's a wakeup call that we need to get NYC area's best players i.e. Calhoun, McCollough, Lawrence, etc. to be more loyal. What that takes I don't know, but we have to own NYC's best before we can be dominant again.
Joe, count stars at your leisure;
http://espn.go.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/player/_/id/141635/rysheed-jordan (http://espn.go.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/player/_/id/141635/rysheed-jordan)
Well look at that, he's now 5 stars. If Temple can land one there is no reason we can't. Is that so crazy to say? Especially considering we have a coach well known for his recruiting ability.
You're overstating the importance of a 5 star recruit Joe. Providence had 2 last year, how did that work out for them? Houston had one too, and Pitt has had 2 in recent years, Birch and Adams, and they've been less competitive the last two years than at any other point in this decade. I could go on (Arkansas has a 5star coming in.. etc)
Don't forget Dom Pointer was ranked as high as 24, and Jordan is coming in around 22. The rankings only tell you so much. And they usually over emphasize certain attributes (like height) at the expense of guys who see the court well and can shoot.
Getting a loi from Jordan isn't a sign that all is well with the program. Nor does it mean the sky is falling.
Things like the makeup of the roster, chemistry, and coaching matter just as much as recruiting ranks. I can be as critical as anyone but you gotta think big picture. And in my mind goals for this offseason go: 1) get D'angelo onboard and in a good place, 2) recruit the hell out of centers and forwards in the '14 class, 3) sign Jordan.
* and I'll add as an aside to re-evaluate the roles of the staff (although I doubt that happens).
-
What I said was true...those 3 players were NOT from the NYC area. Some of them played JUCO or other levels in the NYC area, but are not from there. Aren't Obekpa and Felix from Africa? And Sanchez is from DR. Facts don't seem to matter to some of you...just who's posting them does. Harkless is a VERY good recruit obviously...but like I said Jordan would be the BEST recruit Lavin ever pulled for us if he comes ranking wise. I love Harkless but I think some people overrate him at the college level. He is doing great in the NBA right now, but as a rookie he wasn't amazing. He had a few 30 pt monster games, but he couldn't shoot for his life and Harrison was the clear go to guy even with him here.
There is talk that Jordan will be upgraded to a 5 star prospect now. We have yet to have one under Lavin. All I'm saying is, if he goes to Temple it's a wakeup call that we need to get NYC area's best players i.e. Calhoun, McCollough, Lawrence, etc. to be more loyal. What that takes I don't know, but we have to own NYC's best before we can be dominant again.
Joe, count stars at your leisure;
http://espn.go.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/player/_/id/141635/rysheed-jordan (http://espn.go.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/player/_/id/141635/rysheed-jordan)
Well look at that, he's now 5 stars. If Temple can land one there is no reason we can't. Is that so crazy to say? Especially considering we have a coach well known for his recruiting ability.
You're overstating the importance of a 5 star recruit Joe. Providence had 2 last year, how did that work out for them? Houston had one too, and Pitt has had 2 in recent years, Birch and Adams, and they've been less competitive the last two years than at any other point in this decade. I could go on (Arkansas has a 5star coming in.. etc)
Don't forget Dom Pointer was ranked as high as 24, and Jordan is coming in around 22. The rankings only tell you so much. And they usually over emphasize certain attributes (like height) at the expense of guys who see the court well and can shoot.
Getting a loi from Jordan isn't a sign that all is well with the program. Nor does it mean the sky is falling.
Things like the makeup of the roster, chemistry, and coaching matter just as much as recruiting ranks. I can be as critical as anyone but you gotta think big picture. And in my mind goals for this offseason go: 1) get D'angelo onboard and in a good place, 2) recruit the hell out of centers and forwards in the '14 class, 3) sign Jordan.
* and I'll add as an aside to re-evaluate the roles of the staff (although I doubt that happens).
On the $$ Desco!
-
Getting a 5 star player is a lotto ticket. But the odds are not the same. Your chances of getting a program changer from a 5 star McDonald's AA are much better than your typical 4 star non AA. I know Jordan isn't an AA but I'm just saying...it's the odds of panning out that is better for higher caliber recruits. Sure there are diamonds in the rough but look at the lists of McDonald's AA's. They are legends not just in college but at the NBA level. That's what you aim for. If the highest recruits never panned out, Kentucky, L'Ville, Cuse, Duke, UNC, etc. would always suck. Instead, they are the best programs. That's because they go after the program changers. I know you can't have a team of superstars, but a few 5 star AA's never hurt a fly.
-
I hope we land him but!
coming out of high school would u rather have Amir or Early from witchita
look how they both ended up!
:-X
time will tell what we have (if he signs with STJ's)
I'm sure our ESPN coverage and media outlets are better than Temple
especially after wyatt got caught looking for a hooker on his birthday last season
or we gonna act like that's ok for a top 20 recruit's parents standards????
:angel:
He needs a good catholic school with mega media coverage potential
:uglystupid2:
-
I hope we land him but!
coming out of high school would u rather have Amir or Early from witchita
look how they both ended up!
:-X
time will tell what we have (if he signs with STJ's)
I'm sure our ESPN coverage and media outlets are better than Temple
especially after wyatt got caught looking for a hooker on his birthday last season
or we gonna act like that's ok for a top 20 recruit's parents standards????
:angel:
He needs a good catholic school with mega media coverage potential
:uglystupid2:
Early needed Juco. Like his game but thats the beauty of Juco.
-
And why I hope and expect that we incorporate a few JUCO's for 2014 of that ilk. Since the great 99-00 team, 3 of the 6 best players we have had have been JUCO -- Hatten, Hardy and Brownlee (I put Mo, Dlo and Sampson as the other three).
-
And why I hope and expect that we incorporate a few JUCO's for 2014 of that ilk. Since the great 99-00 team, 3 of the 6 best players we have had have been JUCO -- Hatten, Hardy and Brownlee (I put Mo, Dlo and Sampson as the other three).
Darrick Wood, 3rd times a charm :)
-
Don't know if anyone has mentioned or noticed this but maybe Jordan moved up his announcement date a few days so he can announce on espn recruiting show April 11 6pm espnu. Let's hope it is like a few years ago when several of our guys (Karr, Pelle, another?) all announced on that show. :)
-
Don't know if anyone has mentioned or noticed this but maybe Jordan moved up his announcement date a few days so he can announce on espn recruiting show April 11 6pm espnu. Let's hope it is like a few years ago when several of our guys (Karr, Pelle, another?) all announced on that show. :)
Sampson and Dlo. Don't think Pelle's was telecasted.
-
Early went to Sullivan because he wanted to be with his mom after his older brother passed away in a drowning accident. He was 2 time player of the year.
-
Really hope we can get Rysheed, he is a baller! Will instantly improve our shooting percentages by the amount of open looks he will get people. Can get in the lane with ease, can score at a high level, needs to take less fade away jumpshots, I had to find something to critique because he is the real deal. Needs to be a better on the ball defender but plays passing lanes well. If he comes to St. John's he can have Shane Larkin impact, the reason I preface the statement with can, is based on Jakarr and D-LO returning. Its always something with us, eligibility issues, injuries, suspensions. We are well over due for some good luck and great times! Will forever dislike Scoonie Penn and Michael Redd and that ref that didn't call that damn bump on Barkley!!!
-
Really hope we can get Rysheed, he is a baller! Will instantly improve our shooting percentages by the amount of open looks he will get people. Can get in the lane with ease, can score at a high level, needs to take less fade away jumpshots, I had to find something to critique because he is the real deal. Needs to be a better on the ball defender but plays passing lanes well. If he comes to St. John's he can have Shane Larkin impact, the reason I preface the statement with can, is based on Jakarr and D-LO returning. Its always something with us, eligibility issues, injuries, suspensions. We are well over due for some good luck and great times! Will forever dislike Scoonie Penn and Michael Redd and that ref that didn't call that damn bump on Barkley!!!
He'd also translate to more open looks for Marco or Max - able to penetrate, and still get the ball out to the open shooter when the defense collapses, rather than the Phil Green manuver of keep on penetrating and pray for a blocking call instead of a charge (if he can't get the teardrop off)....
-
I'm slightly confused. For a while everyone was saying basically he's not coming here. Are we considered the favorites to land him at this point?
-
I'm slightly confused. For a while everyone was saying basically he's not coming here. Are we considered the favorites to land him at this point?
Don't be confused. These posts are just the ramblings of fools---yous truly included. Seldom does anynoe "know" anything.
-
I'm slightly confused. For a while everyone was saying basically he's not coming here. Are we considered the favorites to land him at this point?
A lot of folks think the Ben Howland firing at UCLA has greatly increased our chances. Kid hand NYC, & LA and....Temple in his final 3. If UCLA's out of it, St. Johns is the remaining "Big Time" among his choices. The impression I get from the kid (quotes, social media) is that "NBA Future" is incredibly important to him. I'm hoping it's not lost on him that he LAST successful NBA guard from Temple was Guy Rodgers back in 1959 :) - unless you count the 6 pt a game disappointment that was Mark Macon as "successful". To me, it seemed THAT was the common denominator between the two "non-hometow" schools in his final 3 - Steve Lavin sending 6 guards to the NBA in 9 years as a head coach, and Ben Howland sending 9 in 14 years. UCLA itself may still be in play as a launching ground for NBA guards over an A10 school, regardless of the coach. They've sent more guards to the NBA than every A10 school COMBINED (32). But I think it's more likely it's now between SJU and Temple....By the way, tho not so many recently, St. Johns has sent 24 guards to the NBA over the years (14 were pre-1960).
-
I'm slightly confused. For a while everyone was saying basically he's not coming here. Are we considered the favorites to land him at this point?
A lot of folks think the Ben Howland firing at UCLA has greatly increased our chances. Kid hand NYC, & LA and....Temple in his final 3. If UCLA's out of it, St. Johns is the remaining "Big Time" among his choices. The impression I get from the kid (quotes, social media) is that "NBA Future" is incredibly important to him. I'm hoping it's not lost on him that he LAST successful NBA guard from Temple was Guy Rodgers back in 1959 :) - unless you count the 6 pt a game disappointment that was Mark Macon as "successful". To me, it seemed THAT was the common denominator between the two "non-hometow" schools in his final 3 - Steve Lavin sending 6 guards to the NBA in 9 years as a head coach, and Ben Howland sending 9 in 14 years. UCLA itself may still be in play as a launching ground for NBA guards over an A10 school, regardless of the coach. They've sent more guards to the NBA than every A10 school COMBINED (32). But I think it's more likely it's now between SJU and Temple....By the way, tho not so many recently, St. Johns has sent 24 guards to the NBA over the years (14 were pre-1960).
I'm too young to remember him in college, but what about Eddie Jones? Was he not a guard at Temple?
-
I'm slightly confused. For a while everyone was saying basically he's not coming here. Are we considered the favorites to land him at this point?
A lot of folks think the Ben Howland firing at UCLA has greatly increased our chances. Kid hand NYC, & LA and....Temple in his final 3. If UCLA's out of it, St. Johns is the remaining "Big Time" among his choices. The impression I get from the kid (quotes, social media) is that "NBA Future" is incredibly important to him. I'm hoping it's not lost on him that he LAST successful NBA guard from Temple was Guy Rodgers back in 1959 :) - unless you count the 6 pt a game disappointment that was Mark Macon as "successful". To me, it seemed THAT was the common denominator between the two "non-hometow" schools in his final 3 - Steve Lavin sending 6 guards to the NBA in 9 years as a head coach, and Ben Howland sending 9 in 14 years. UCLA itself may still be in play as a launching ground for NBA guards over an A10 school, regardless of the coach. They've sent more guards to the NBA than every A10 school COMBINED (32). But I think it's more likely it's now between SJU and Temple....By the way, tho not so many recently, St. Johns has sent 24 guards to the NBA over the years (14 were pre-1960).
I'm too young to remember him in college, but what about Eddie Jones? Was he not a guard at Temple?
I think he played SF at Temple because McKie was the SG.
-
I'm slightly confused. For a while everyone was saying basically he's not coming here. Are we considered the favorites to land him at this point?
A lot of folks think the Ben Howland firing at UCLA has greatly increased our chances. Kid hand NYC, & LA and....Temple in his final 3. If UCLA's out of it, St. Johns is the remaining "Big Time" among his choices. The impression I get from the kid (quotes, social media) is that "NBA Future" is incredibly important to him. I'm hoping it's not lost on him that he LAST successful NBA guard from Temple was Guy Rodgers back in 1959 :) - unless you count the 6 pt a game disappointment that was Mark Macon as "successful". To me, it seemed THAT was the common denominator between the two "non-hometow" schools in his final 3 - Steve Lavin sending 6 guards to the NBA in 9 years as a head coach, and Ben Howland sending 9 in 14 years. UCLA itself may still be in play as a launching ground for NBA guards over an A10 school, regardless of the coach. They've sent more guards to the NBA than every A10 school COMBINED (32). But I think it's more likely it's now between SJU and Temple....By the way, tho not so many recently, St. Johns has sent 24 guards to the NBA over the years (14 were pre-1960).
I'm too young to remember him in college, but what about Eddie Jones? Was he not a guard at Temple?
I think he played SF at Temple because McKie was the SG.
GREAT player from Temple. But he was 17 pts 7 rebs as a So, and 19 pts 7 rebs as a Jr. forward for the Owls before leaving early for the NBA. Rick Brunson and Aaron McKie were the guards on his Owl teams. I guess due to longevity (12 yrs, but he only scored 29 total pts his last 2 seasons!), you could consider the career 7 pt a game McKie as a successful guard from Temple. Borderline call... Brunson played 9 years in the league, but was a career 3 pt a game guy, 13 minutes a game. That call isn't so borderline. But he did apparently earn over $5 million. So lets say financially successful! And changing my mind on McKie - just checked the financials. $51 mill over 12 years. Definately succesful. Wow - 2006, he played 14 games for the Lakers, scored 0.5 pts per game - and earned $6 million dollars, and the following year 10 games and 2.2 pts per game earned $6.5 million - and the year after, out of basketball, earned $7 mil...from Philly, who'd signed him to a 7 year guaranteed contract in 2002! $4mil, $4.5, $5, $5.5, $6, $6.5 and $7 million from 2002-2008 all from the Philly contract. They signed him at age 28, and figured he'd be solid till 35 or 36. He bottomed out at 32!
-
Add Lynn Greer and Pepe Sanchez to the list of good Temple guards who did nothing in the NBA.
-
I'm slightly confused. For a while everyone was saying basically he's not coming here. Are we considered the favorites to land him at this point?
A lot of folks think the Ben Howland firing at UCLA has greatly increased our chances. Kid hand NYC, & LA and....Temple in his final 3. If UCLA's out of it, St. Johns is the remaining "Big Time" among his choices. The impression I get from the kid (quotes, social media) is that "NBA Future" is incredibly important to him. I'm hoping it's not lost on him that he LAST successful NBA guard from Temple was Guy Rodgers back in 1959 :) - unless you count the 6 pt a game disappointment that was Mark Macon as "successful". To me, it seemed THAT was the common denominator between the two "non-hometow" schools in his final 3 - Steve Lavin sending 6 guards to the NBA in 9 years as a head coach, and Ben Howland sending 9 in 14 years. UCLA itself may still be in play as a launching ground for NBA guards over an A10 school, regardless of the coach. They've sent more guards to the NBA than every A10 school COMBINED (32). But I think it's more likely it's now between SJU and Temple....By the way, tho not so many recently, St. Johns has sent 24 guards to the NBA over the years (14 were pre-1960).
Hmmm. Interesting. I would hope karma would be on our side in this recruitment. How many times have we lost the big local recruit to another program? After losing McCullough, Lawerence, Stephenson etc. it would suck if another big recruit we are going after actually decides to stay home, this time while we are on the wrong end of it.
-
Add Lynn Greer and Pepe Sanchez to the list of good Temple guards who did nothing in the NBA.
One of my pet peeves (the board will get to know them all, eventually) - is the disrespect for a players accomplishements at one level, because of a percieved failure at another - whether it be a high school player who doesn't make a major impact in college, or a college player who doesn't make it in the pros. Tho a lot of similarities, High School, NAIA, D-III, D-II, D-I, NBA and Euro Basketball are DIFFERENT animals. It's why a guy who wasn't a high school star can be a star college player, and why a STAR high school player doesn't make a big impact in college. But it shouldn't impact how he is perceived at the level he WAS successful.
I'm sure St. Johns fans know what I'm talking about. Walter Berry was the Wooden Award winner. The AP College Player of the Year in 1986. He was a GREAT college player. But because he WASN'T a star in the NBA, folks have diminished his accomplishments as a Collegiate. This happens a lot. For SJU there's Mel Davis. LeRoy Ellis - INCREDIBLE college players, who don't get the respect they're due when discussion of great college players comes around because of what they DIDN'T accomplish outside of college. Ask someone in their 50s about a guy named Mel Counts, and they'll tell you about a journeyman, gawky reserve center from the NBA. Ask someone in their SIXTIES, and you MIGHT hear about the Greatest Player EVER in Oregon College history (yeah - greater than Gary Payton) - the TWO time All American, Gold Medal Olympian - the guy who averaged 21 pts and 16 rebs as a Junior, and 27 pts and 17 rebs as a Senior, leading his team to the final four. A truly GREAT collegiate, who in LA is a joke - the player you cite when you want to denigrate someone, because of his years as a backup center for the Celtics.
And it works in reverse. I've had folks tell me Charles Barkley was a GREAT college player. They seem stunned when I point out that his BEST year at Auburn was 15 pts and 9 rebs. And they tend to look at me funny when my all time North Carolina team doesn't include a guy named Jordan - cause to put him there I'd have to omit either Billy Cunningham at SF or Charlie Scott at SG - and he didn't earn THAT till he played in the pros (27 pts 9 rebs, broke the color barrier at UNC for Scott, 26pts 16 rebs for the Kangaroo Kid, Cunningham) - and THAT'S leaving off Lenny Rosenblath, who gave them 27 pts and 11 rebs a game for his 3 year career. I CAN'T justify a 17pt 5 rebs 1.8 assist guy over them. Yes he won a title as a 13 pt frosh - with Perkins and Worthy - but couldn't get them back to the Final Four with Perkins gone....
Oh well. Meds are finally kicking in - 4:30 am - MAYBE I can get some sleep...
-
I'm slightly confused. For a while everyone was saying basically he's not coming here. Are we considered the favorites to land him at this point?
A lot of folks think the Ben Howland firing at UCLA has greatly increased our chances. Kid hand NYC, & LA and....Temple in his final 3. If UCLA's out of it, St. Johns is the remaining "Big Time" among his choices. The impression I get from the kid (quotes, social media) is that "NBA Future" is incredibly important to him. I'm hoping it's not lost on him that he LAST successful NBA guard from Temple was Guy Rodgers back in 1959 :) - unless you count the 6 pt a game disappointment that was Mark Macon as "successful". To me, it seemed THAT was the common denominator between the two "non-hometow" schools in his final 3 - Steve Lavin sending 6 guards to the NBA in 9 years as a head coach, and Ben Howland sending 9 in 14 years. UCLA itself may still be in play as a launching ground for NBA guards over an A10 school, regardless of the coach. They've sent more guards to the NBA than every A10 school COMBINED (32). But I think it's more likely it's now between SJU and Temple....By the way, tho not so many recently, St. Johns has sent 24 guards to the NBA over the years (14 were pre-1960).
I'm too young to remember him in college, but what about Eddie Jones? Was he not a guard at Temple?
Rick Brunson was the pg. that was a strong team.
-
Hopefully we sent a new hat;
“@sheedjordan: Bout to make the biggest decision of my life!!!!!”
“@sheedjordan: COMMITTING THIS WEEK🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥😳😳😳😳”
-
Bored, but assume he has a Temple hat already. Ha!
“@sheedjordan: Goin to get my college hat today🎉🎉🎋🎋🎊🎊🎈🎈🎁🎁”
-
Bored, but assume he has a Temple hat already. Ha!
“@sheedjordan: Goin to get my college hat today”
That's a fair assessment, paultzman. God knows Temple has been providing him with enough swag to fill a small sporting goods store. Would be awesome to see him put on a STJ hat on national TV. Fingers crossed!
-
Another tweet says "did my thing in Philly, that's what people never gonna forget" or something to that effect.
Makes me believe he's leaving Philly.
-
Bored, but assume he has a Temple hat already. Ha!
“@sheedjordan: Goin to get my college hat today🎉🎉🎋🎋🎊🎊🎈🎈🎁🎁”
Our merchandising sucks. Definitely no STJ hats in Philly. Unless he gets a St. Joe's hat and pretends its us.
-
Bored, but assume he has a Temple hat already. Ha!
“@sheedjordan: Goin to get my college hat today🎉🎉🎋🎋🎊🎊🎈🎈🎁🎁”
Our merchandising sucks. Definitely no STJ hats in Philly. Unless he gets a St. Joe's hat and pretends its us.
Poor Chiles, probably racing down Tpike w one of our cheesy lids! Ha!
-
Rumors floating around that Rutgers going to make a strong run at Dunphy...doubt he goes but does that impact this at all? Gotta give this credit, hes getting a tight lip
-
Bored, but assume he has a Temple hat already. Ha!
“@sheedjordan: Goin to get my college hat today🎉🎉🎋🎋🎊🎊🎈🎈🎁🎁”
Our merchandising sucks. Definitely no STJ hats in Philly. Unless he gets a St. Joe's hat and pretends its us.
Actually there were a couple of new hats this year that are signing day worthy. Big improvement over the highway rest stop hat that DLo used for his ESPNU announcement.
-
Bored, but assume he has a Temple hat already. Ha!
“@sheedjordan: Goin to get my college hat today🎉🎉🎋🎋🎊🎊🎈🎈🎁🎁”
Our merchandising sucks. Definitely no STJ hats in Philly. Unless he gets a St. Joe's hat and pretends its us.
Actually there were a couple of new hats this year that are signing day worthy. Big improvement over the highway rest stop hat that DLo used for his ESPNU announcement.
Merch is better definitely. But its not going to be in Philly was my point.
-
I'm just assuming Temple and if he pops for us fantastic. If it is between us and Temple gotta think he knows there are more NBA connections right now in the league with St John's ties. Lavin has sent numerous players to the league, Rico has pro players on campus almost daily over the summer, Ron Ron, Moe and Dunlap, Darrick was involved in front office and played in league, Mullin was a GM and I'm sure still has contacts and Mark Jackson is doing well out in Golden State ( I know he doesn't bleed St J's) but looking at that i gotta say that is way more than Temple's connections. UCLA on the other hand is a different story.
-
Bored, but assume he has a Temple hat already. Ha!
“@sheedjordan: Goin to get my college hat today🎉🎉🎋🎋🎊🎊🎈🎈🎁🎁”
Our merchandising sucks. Definitely no STJ hats in Philly. Unless he gets a St. Joe's hat and pretends its us.
Sucks is kind.
-
Bored, but assume he has a Temple hat already. Ha!
“@sheedjordan: Goin to get my college hat today”
Our merchandising sucks. Definitely no STJ hats in Philly. Unless he gets a St. Joe's hat and pretends its us.
This really cracked me up.
-
Pico's opinion to further get hopes up. No Moose "Doomed" references either.
“@ECoastBias: Hate to put a # on it. Be slightly surprised if he doesn't come to Queens. RT @drcraigrx: @[me] chances the johnnies land rysheed Jordan?”
-
Bored, but assume he has a Temple hat already. Ha!
“@sheedjordan: Goin to get my college hat today🎉🎉🎋🎋🎊🎊🎈🎈🎁🎁”
Our merchandising sucks. Definitely no STJ hats in Philly. Unless he gets a St. Joe's hat and pretends its us.
Actually there were a couple of new hats this year that are signing day worthy. Big improvement over the highway rest stop hat that DLo used for his ESPNU announcement.
Merch is better definitely. But its not going to be in Philly was my point.
Maybe he meant his hat was going to arrive in the mail today.
-
Hes coming...I know I struck out on KA and JL but this kid is in...DONE DEAL ..this is not a random guess or hearsay...DONE DEAL
-
Hes coming...I know I struck out on KA and JL but this kid is in...DONE DEAL ..this is not a random guess or hearsay...DONE DEAL
Good to hear from you '79!
Affirms the chatter of late.
Looking forward to tidbits on '14 and '15 from you!
-
Hes coming...I know I struck out on KA and JL but this kid is in...DONE DEAL ..this is not a random guess or hearsay...DONE DEAL
Appreciate the update, hope you are right. Temple fans seem to think he's coming here 100%
-
Nice 79, much thanks!
-
Hes coming...I know I struck out on KA and JL but this kid is in...DONE DEAL ..this is not a random guess or hearsay...DONE DEAL
As always 79 appreciate the info!
-
Hes coming...I know I struck out on KA and JL but this kid is in...DONE DEAL ..this is not a random guess or hearsay...DONE DEAL
Appreciate the update, hope you are right. Temple fans seem to think he's coming here 100%
Do you have a link to their boards stormy? Thanks.
-
ESPNU has signing day special at 6pm on 4/11
-
The tweet about doing his time in Philly was the first time he tipped his hand. If this comes to fruition I am really excited for next year. We needed a PG. like many was tired of seeing Phil run the point. Lets hope DLO returns w a new attitude.
-
HUge get...we will be a different team if he is as good as advertised
-
Why are we talking about this like he's already committed to us? Why is it that more of you aren't superstitious?
-
Clever, but he will require a size 12 hat. Lol
“@gionysports: In 3 Days @sheedjordan becomes a Johnny. You look good in the Red & White Sheed! #stjbb #NYC #BigEast http://twitter.com/gionysports/status/321293248742182912/photo/1 (http://twitter.com/gionysports/status/321293248742182912/photo/1)”
-
Hes coming...I know I struck out on KA and JL but this kid is in...DONE DEAL ..this is not a random guess or hearsay...DONE DEAL
Appreciate the update, hope you are right. Temple fans seem to think he's coming here 100%
Do you have a link to their boards stormy? Thanks.
This is a pay site. Scout was pretty dead
http://temple.rivals.com/forum.asp (http://temple.rivals.com/forum.asp)
-
Why are we talking about this like he's already committed to us? Why is it that more of you aren't superstitious?
You superstitious or just OCD ;)
-
Hes coming...I know I struck out on KA and JL but this kid is in...DONE DEAL ..this is not a random guess or hearsay...DONE DEAL
Appreciate the update, hope you are right. Temple fans seem to think he's coming here 100%
Do you have a link to their boards stormy? Thanks.
This is a pay site. Scout was pretty dead
http://temple.rivals.com/forum.asp (http://temple.rivals.com/forum.asp)
while i can't read the thread, the headline is pretty clear "Hearing it will be St. John's"
http://temple.rivals.com/barrier_noentry.asp?ReturnTo=&sid=1018&script=showmsg.asp&cid=&fid=789&tid=163870473&mid=163870473&rid= (http://temple.rivals.com/barrier_noentry.asp?ReturnTo=&sid=1018&script=showmsg.asp&cid=&fid=789&tid=163870473&mid=163870473&rid=)
-
I'm just assuming Temple and if he pops for us fantastic. If it is between us and Temple gotta think he knows there are more NBA connections right now in the league with St John's ties. Lavin has sent numerous players to the league, Rico has pro players on campus almost daily over the summer, Ron Ron, Moe and Dunlap, Darrick was involved in front office and played in league, Mullin was a GM and I'm sure still has contacts and Mark Jackson is doing well out in Golden State ( I know he doesn't bleed St J's) but looking at that i gotta say that is way more than Temple's connections. UCLA on the other hand is a different story.
Don't forget CURRENT Golden State GM was one of Steve Lavin's players, and the Clippers Director of Basketball Operations (and former Hornets VP of Player Personnell) is a former Lavin player AND Assistant Coach. :) With Howland gone - if it's the NBA on his mind, and the success his new coach has in getting players to that level, St. John's is a slam Dunk. Fran Dunphy as sent 4 players to the NBA in 23 years as a D-1 Head Coach. New UCLA coach Steve Alford has sent 6 in 18 years of D-1 coaching - only ONE of which ever played 50 games in their NBA career. Then there's Lavin with his his 16 to the league in 10 years as a D-1 coach - 9 of whom played over 250 games in their careers - 6 over 500, and 2 over 800.
If NBA future is a criteria, SJU should be a no brainer. But (isn't there always) Jamal Branch also expects Steve to get HIM to the league. And probably Phil Green thinks that too. But hopefully Steve is telling him about his 1998 team - which had UCLA's #5 all time Assist guy Toby Bailey, UCLA's #4 all time Assist Guy Earl Watson, and perhaps UCLA's BEST PG ever Baron Davis ALL starting in the same 3-guard lineup. :)
-
hopefully this is true. have to wait until thursday.
-
very excited. if we get this kid and harrison comes back...then we will have a big time back court to go along with a strong frontcourt. next year will be sweet. furthermore, it would legitimize lavin as a big time coach and put st johns back among elite programs. can't tell u how big a get this is.
-
Hes coming...I know I struck out on KA and JL but this kid is in...DONE DEAL ..this is not a random guess or hearsay...DONE DEAL
Appreciate the update, hope you are right. Temple fans seem to think he's coming here 100%
Do you have a link to their boards stormy? Thanks.
This is a pay site. Scout was pretty dead
http://temple.rivals.com/forum.asp (http://temple.rivals.com/forum.asp)
while i can't read the thread, the headline is pretty clear "Hearing it will be St. John's"
http://temple.rivals.com/barrier_noentry.asp?ReturnTo=&sid=1018&script=showmsg.asp&cid=&fid=789&tid=163870473&mid=163870473&rid= (http://temple.rivals.com/barrier_noentry.asp?ReturnTo=&sid=1018&script=showmsg.asp&cid=&fid=789&tid=163870473&mid=163870473&rid=)
Thanks guys
-
Hes coming...I know I struck out on KA and JL but this kid is in...DONE DEAL ..this is not a random guess or hearsay...DONE DEAL
Don't apologize and you're right.
I was hinting at this with the potential Temple fan reaction.
-
Saw this on one temple board. I hope no St. John's fans are this dumb.
http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=186&f=3506&t=11450294 (http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=186&f=3506&t=11450294)
-
Why are we talking about this like he's already committed to us? Why is it that more of you aren't superstitious?
I think we are, but afraid to admit it! You have plenty of company here, will believe it when he is on campus, registered and asks his first question in class.
-
Saw this on one temple board. I hope no St. John's fans are this dumb.
http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=186&f=3506&t=11450294 (http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=186&f=3506&t=11450294)
Wow.
-
Saw this on one temple board. I hope no St. John's fans are this dumb.
http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=186&f=3506&t=11450294 (http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=186&f=3506&t=11450294)
Most sports fAns really are sad and pathetic
-
Saw this on one temple board. I hope no St. John's fans are this dumb.
http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=186&f=3506&t=11450294 (http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=186&f=3506&t=11450294)
Most sports fAns really are sad and pathetic
At least the Temple post serves as a reminder for our more rabid fan base why the tweet to Jordan or any prospect is a bad idea: http://johnnyjungle.com/forum/index.php?topic=4733.0 (http://johnnyjungle.com/forum/index.php?topic=4733.0)
-
Saw this on one temple board. I hope no St. John's fans are this dumb.
http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=186&f=3506&t=11450294 (http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=186&f=3506&t=11450294)
Countermove:
Go to his twitter, as anonymous b-ball fan, not St. Johns fan, and criticize Temple homers lie spreading as desperate, innapropriate, and classless.
-
Saw this on one temple board. I hope no St. John's fans are this dumb.
http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=186&f=3506&t=11450294 (http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=186&f=3506&t=11450294)
Countermove:
Go to his twitter, as anonymous b-ball fan, not St. Johns fan, and criticize Temple homers lie spreading as desperate, innapropriate, and classless.
Or just leave the kid alone and let him make his decision.
-
Matt Breen of the Philadelphia Inquirer tweeted something interesting a few days ago asking people to draw their own conclusions:
He basically said that on March 15th Lavin came to see Jordan play sitting right behind the Vaux bench. Two days later Jordan announces he is going to commit in a month on April 15th.
Then just days after Amir Garrett announces he is leaving SJU thus opening a scholarship for SJU Jordan publically pushes up his announcement date to April 11th.
Coincidence????
-
Saw this on one temple board. I hope no St. John's fans are this dumb.
http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=186&f=3506&t=11450294 (http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=186&f=3506&t=11450294)
Countermove:
Go to his twitter, as anonymous b-ball fan, not St. Johns fan, and criticize Temple homers lie spreading as desperate, innapropriate, and classless.
Good joke, as even anonymous post can be traced back to the sender with little technical know-how, and with a subpoena in hand, the so-called anonymous poster is found out in connection with a recruitment violation investigation.
-
Saw this on one temple board. I hope no St. John's fans are this dumb.
http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=186&f=3506&t=11450294 (http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=186&f=3506&t=11450294)
Countermove:
Go to his twitter, as anonymous b-ball fan, not St. Johns fan, and criticize Temple homers lie spreading as desperate, innapropriate, and classless.
Good joke, as even anonymous post can be traced back to the sender with little technical know-how, and with a subpoena in hand, the so-called anonymous poster is found out in connection with a recruitment violation investigation.
Drive down to Philly. Go to the Temple library. Log onto their computers and create awake identity. Tweet Rysheed from there. Smh!
-
This getting crazy. Tweeting in a ski mask next big idea?
-
Hes coming...I know I struck out on KA and JL but this kid is in...DONE DEAL ..this is not a random guess or hearsay...DONE DEAL
Oh Geez, now you've gone and gotten my hopes up ;)
Just kidding, thanks for the insight '79, and you too Fordham, hope you guys are right.
-
Just look at it as a business decision. They are not here to be your best buds, they are here to play well and help us win. Makes it a lot easier that way IMO. There are millions of "nice guys". I want great basketball players who can shoot. He didn't fit that. Good luck to him and in Lavin we trust...get Jordan!
I think we'd want to be careful about calling anything involving unpaid kids making the school millions of dollars a "business decision."
-
Adam Zagoria @AdamZagoria 2h
To reiterate an earlier post, #stjbb is very confident about getting @sheedjordan on Thursday over Temple and UCLA, sources told @SNYtv
-
IF he signs with St Johns. We should be a Final Four team next year. It might be one of the most talent loaded teams in school history.
-
IF he signs with St Johns. We should be a Final Four team next year. It might be one of the most talent loaded teams in school history.
Heroin for lunch?
-
IF he signs with St Johns. We should be a Final Four team next year. It might be one of the most talent loaded teams in school history.
Heroin for lunch?
LOL!!!! Thanks for the great chuckle!!
-
"It might be one of the most talent loaded teams in school history."
If he signs and harrison is back, I agree. This does not mean final four, however. Let's make the tournament first.
Actually, let's see what the roster looks like in the fall first.
-
Somebody that works in a LIDS in philly said he saw sheed buy a johnnies hat. Could be lying but we'll see.
-
Temple fans trying to decipher if the smiley faces in Jordan's tweet:
"Know what school I'm goin too it's locked in my head😃😃😄😊😊☺😉😳😎😎😎..."
spells out Saint_Johns or Templeowls
http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=186&f=3506&t=11437449&p=1 (http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=186&f=3506&t=11437449&p=1)
black jesus @sheedjordan 3h
Goin to get my college hat today🎉🎉🎋🎋🎊🎊🎈🎈🎁🎁
from temple poster: "also spells out Saint Johns (without a space)... crap"
These guys are hilarious
-
IF he signs with St Johns. We should be a Final Four team next year. It might be one of the most talent loaded teams in school history.
This guy is on the opposite end of the spectrum from Poison :)
Let's just get this guy and enjoy the ride next year.
-
Temple fans trying to decipher if the smiley faces in Jordan's tweet:
"Know what school I'm goin too it's locked in my head😃😃😄😊😊☺😉😳😎😎😎..."
spells out Saint_Johns or Templeowls
http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=186&f=3506&t=11437449&p=1 (http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=186&f=3506&t=11437449&p=1)
black jesus @sheedjordan 3h
Goin to get my college hat today🎉🎉🎋🎋🎊🎊🎈🎈🎁🎁
also spells out Saint Johns (without a space)... crap
These guys are hilarious
you can't make this stuff up! hilarious and sad all at the same time! hahahaha
-
Temple fans trying to decipher if the smiley faces in Jordan's tweet:
"Know what school I'm goin too it's locked in my head😃😃😄😊😊☺😉😳😎😎😎..."
spells out Saint_Johns or Templeowls
http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=186&f=3506&t=11437449&p=1 (http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=186&f=3506&t=11437449&p=1)
black jesus @sheedjordan 3h
Goin to get my college hat today🎉🎉🎋🎋🎊🎊🎈🎈🎁🎁
from temple poster: "also spells out Saint Johns (without a space)... crap"
These guys are hilarious
Also spells out UCLABRUINS
SAINTJOHNS
TEMPLEOWLS
-
Just heard again St Johns.... ...No need to speculate about twitter or what hat he bought....hes on board folks.
-
Just heard again St Johns.... ...No need to speculate about twitter or what hat he bought....hes on board folks.
Thank you!!!!!
-
Just heard again St Johns.... ...No need to speculate about twitter or what hat he bought....hes on board folks.
Double confirmation from SJU79...take it to the bank.
-
Just heard again St Johns.... ...No need to speculate about twitter or what hat he bought....hes on board folks.
this coming out today all makes sense given that he's announcing on espn. lots of coordination needs to get done before then.
-
So who here has seen him play in-person, and can offer a scouting report?
-
Just heard again St Johns.... ...No need to speculate about twitter or what hat he bought....hes on board folks.
this coming out today all makes sense given that he's announcing on espn. lots of coordination needs to get done before then.
Has it been announced officially that he will commit on the show?
-
Just heard again St Johns.... ...No need to speculate about twitter or what hat he bought....hes on board folks.
this coming out today all makes sense given that he's announcing on espn. lots of coordination needs to get done before then.
Has it been announced officially that he will commit on the show?
Telep just tweeted @ me that no live commitments on show but who knows things could change...
-
If/when we land him does he automatically slot into the starting lineup for next season over Branch/PGiv? On paper our potential roster would be unbelievably deep and talented....
G-Jordan
G-Harrison
F-Pointer
F-Sampson
F-Sanchez
Bench: Obekpa, PGIV, Branch, GG, Balamou, Jones, Hooper, Bourgault.
You would think at least one of these guys would transfer because I don't see how Lavin could get all of them the PT they would want.
Also Jordan seems like he likes to have the ball in his hands to create (although I've never seen one of his games) Can he and D'Angelo play together?
The pairing of Sampson and him seems to be a match made in heaven as Sampson would be less reliant on making his own offense with Jordan penetrating and creating easy looks for him.
To say the least I'm pretty excited about next year's team. I just hope we keep the entire roster intact and there are no setbacks.
-
If this turns out to be the case I NEVER want to hear how Lavin can't close ect. Guys is a grade A recruiter.Convinced Sampson to come when we reopened, got Harkless , got Obekpa and now it looks like Jordan. We can still disagree on the crappy zone and the weave but recruiting its an open and shut case. And I think his style is honesty unlike alot of others in D-1.
can Jordan run the weave?
-
If this turns out to be the case I NEVER want to hear how Lavin can't close ect. Guys is a grade A recruiter.Convinced Sampson to come when we reopened, got Harkless , got Obekpa and now it looks like Jordan. We can still disagree on the crappy zone and the weave but recruiting its an open and shut case. And I think his style is honesty unlike alot of others in D-1.
can Jordan run the weave?
+1
-
If this turns out to be the case I NEVER want to hear how Lavin can't close ect. Guys is a grade A recruiter.Convinced Sampson to come when we reopened, got Harkless , got Obekpa and now it looks like Jordan. We can still disagree on the crappy zone and the weave but recruiting its an open and shut case. And I think his style is honesty unlike alot of others in D-1.
can Jordan run the weave?
We will run the weave only when Greene is on the floor :)
-
If this turns out to be the case I NEVER want to hear how Lavin can't close ect. Guys is a grade A recruiter.Convinced Sampson to come when we reopened, got Harkless , got Obekpa and now it looks like Jordan. We can still disagree on the crappy zone and the weave but recruiting its an open and shut case. And I think his style is honesty unlike alot of others in D-1.
can Jordan run the weave?
+1000000
-
I am Happy. Lavin is a beast on the recruiting trail.
We Are...back?
-
“@BrandonTierney: Looks as if a program "changer" is headed to Queens...”
-
“@BrandonTierney: Looks as if a program "changer" is headed to Queens...”
This is looking pretty good. Can't wait until Thursday.
-
Get 2 The Game - Rysheed Jordan | @AmFam® (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipQRlz0PAew#ws)
This is the kid I've wanted all along. We need a guard that can break down a defense and score or dish the rock. We instantly become very dangerous with him imo.
-
So who here has seen him play in-person, and can offer a scouting report?
I have seen several full games of him online, kid is a stud
-
So who here has seen him play in-person, and can offer a scouting report?
I have seen several full games of him online, kid is a stud
Same. He can break down a defense, dish the rock and has a pretty good shot.
Here's a game of his: http://www.youtube.com/playlist?annotation_id=annotation_57264&feature=iv&list=PLA6u1EbAQhDUx9db3rNM8Wop7zZy7mvAT&src_vid=syVaIvEb0XE (http://www.youtube.com/playlist?annotation_id=annotation_57264&feature=iv&list=PLA6u1EbAQhDUx9db3rNM8Wop7zZy7mvAT&src_vid=syVaIvEb0XE)
Trying to find some more.
-
If we get Rysheed, You instantly insert him in the starting point guard slot. This kid is the real deal, he is scary good and to be honest I don't understand how he is ranked number 5 among point guards. No chance there are 4 guys better than him at that position, that played HS basketball this year. I really don't get caught up in rankings since trey Burke was like the 25th ranked point guard when he came out but this kid has "it". Poise, toughness, competitiveness, scoring ability, vision, athleticism. I just hope we get him. I'll save my predictions until after he announces where he is signing, but if we do and we get DLO back with no other defections, "oooooooohhhhhhh baaaaaaaaabbbbyyyy" (and 1 announcer voice)
-
I'm trying to temper my expectations, but have we ever heard so strongly like this before hand and not gotten the recruit?
-
Going to be a long 3 days.
-
Bored, but assume he has a Temple hat already. Ha!
“@sheedjordan: Goin to get my college hat today”
Our merchandising sucks. Definitely no STJ hats in Philly. Unless he gets a St. Joe's hat and pretends its us.
Hope this doesn't create eligibility issues and he has to spend a year at St. Joe's. LOL :)
-
Somebody that works in a LIDS in philly said he saw sheed buy a johnnies hat. Could be lying but we'll see.
Doubt it cause as Moose said our merchandise ain't carried in Philly, hard enough to find it around here. Unless this person followed him in a drive to NY.
-
With all of the excitement over the possible Jordan commitment, I'm starting to think how his addition will affect the pt of the existing guards. Who takes the biggest hit? I'd like it to be Greene, but if Harrison doesn't come back, I think Branch loses the most minutes, unless Lavin runs Branch and Jordan at the same time. I think Balamou gets buried on the bench for another year.
-
Matt Breen of the Philadelphia Inquirer tweeted something interesting a few days ago asking people to draw their own conclusions:
He basically said that on March 15th Lavin came to see Jordan play sitting right behind the Vaux bench. Two days later Jordan announces he is going to commit in a month on April 15th.
Then just days after Amir Garrett announces he is leaving SJU thus opening a scholarship for SJU Jordan publically pushes up his announcement date to April 11th.
Coincidence????
First part could have meaning but second part probably coinkydink as moving up those 4 days wouldn't seem to have meaning as to where but probably more related to espn recruiting show although one poster said telep said no live announcements but maybe he just is unaware or they will show video of his announcement.
-
If DLO comes back I'm sure Felix would get redshirted. I don't want him to transfer, i know some are really down on Felix but i love his potential. The SG will be whoever can knock down the most open looks, Which is DLO but I would not be surprised to see branch and Rysheed on the court together against press heavy teams. Only lock starters would be Dom, Jakarr, Rysheed IMO. I would assume Sanchez would start over CO and DLO over anyone else at the 2 but that depends on where he is at psychologically.
-
If DLO comes back I'm sure Felix would get redshirted. I don't want him to transfer, i know some are really down on Felix but i love his potential. The SG will be whoever can knock down the most open looks, Which is DLO but I would not be surprised to see branch and Rysheed on the court together against press heavy teams. Only lock starters would be Dom, Jakarr, Rysheed IMO. I would assume Sanchez would start over CO and DLO over anyone else at the 2 but that depends on where he is at psychologically.
If we get Sheed and everyone else stays, it would be really a great thing if lavin was able to convince Felix and Jones to both redshirt. I doubt that happens.
I do love the upside of both players
-
With all of the excitement over the possible Jordan commitment, I'm starting to think how his addition will affect the pt of the existing guards. Who takes the biggest hit? I'd like it to be Greene, but if Harrison doesn't come back, I think Branch loses the most minutes, unless Lavin runs Branch and Jordan at the same time. I think Balamou gets buried on the bench for another year.
I hope Greene makes all you non believers stop. He improved as the year went on and expect him to improve next year. I admire his mental toughness, he will have to prove it, but I like the odds.
-
With all of the excitement over the possible Jordan commitment, I'm starting to think how his addition will affect the pt of the existing guards. Who takes the biggest hit? I'd like it to be Greene, but if Harrison doesn't come back, I think Branch loses the most minutes, unless Lavin runs Branch and Jordan at the same time. I think Balamou gets buried on the bench for another year.
I hope Greene makes all you non believers stop. He improved as the year went on and expect him to improve next year. I admire his mental toughness, he will have to prove it, but I like the odds.
Greene would be better with less minutes. I too believe he improved a lot last year but a healthy Branch and adding Jordan allowing Greene to play 20-25 minutes would be better for St Johns.
-
Greene defintely wears down over the course of the season. He started strong and finished strong. Not worried at all about Phil. He's going to get minutes. Branch is the suspect guy to me.
-
I love Phil, I think he will flourish by playing with a guy that can get him the ball in favorable positions. I always thought we were a PG and big away, with Sanchez eligible and if we can get Rysheed, we will catch a lot of people by surprise next year. Rysheed will have a Shane Larkin impact if he comes to St. John's.
-
With all of the excitement over the possible Jordan commitment, I'm starting to think how his addition will affect the pt of the existing guards. Who takes the biggest hit? I'd like it to be Greene, but if Harrison doesn't come back, I think Branch loses the most minutes, unless Lavin runs Branch and Jordan at the same time. I think Balamou gets buried on the bench for another year.
I hope Greene makes all you non believers stop. He improved as the year went on and expect him to improve next year. I admire his mental toughness, he will have to prove it, but I like the odds.
It would be nice to see Phil play the 2 instead of the 1. But If DLO gets his head together he should get the bulk of the minutes at the 2. That said, Lavin seems to be in love w Phil. It would be nice to have depth. You never know w injuries ,foul trouble,suspensions, etc. Syracuse and Louisville have these problems every year. Having too many good players is a quality problem I hope we have every year.
-
Great pull by Lavin. I hope this puts an end to those doubting his recruiting. Doubting Lavin's ability to attract recruits is like doubting Bourgault's ability to pickup chicks.
Let's be reasonable with the expectations we cast on the new frosh. Let's also not throw dirt over a competitor like Phil Greene that has busted his arse for two years. I see a ton of three-guard sets in our future and I am hoping that the returning vets will be able to bridge the gap by letting Sheed develop at his pace.
-
Greene defintely wears down over the course of the season. He started strong and finished strong. Not worried at all about Phil. He's going to get minutes. Branch is the suspect guy to me.
+4000
:up:
-
If DLO comes back I'm sure Felix would get redshirted. I don't want him to transfer, i know some are really down on Felix but i love his potential. The SG will be whoever can knock down the most open looks, Which is DLO but I would not be surprised to see branch and Rysheed on the court together against press heavy teams. Only lock starters would be Dom, Jakarr, Rysheed IMO. I would assume Sanchez would start over CO and DLO over anyone else at the 2 but that depends on where he is at psychologically.
If we get Sheed and everyone else stays, it would be really a great thing if lavin was able to convince Felix and Jones to both redshirt. I doubt that happens.
I do love the upside of both players
Neither will redshirt. Minutes are there for both if they develop.
re: Felix is a much more natural, albeit undersized, wing/3. Dom will get into plenty of foul trouble and he can thrive running with two guards on the floor with him.
I was told again today that Gift is the guy who may choose to go elsewhere. Staff wants him back.
-
I was told again today that Gift is the guy who may choose to go elsewhere. Staff wants him back.
I, too, heard again that Gift is going to Harvard. I would love to have him back but if he has that option, I wish him the best.
-
If DLO comes back I'm sure Felix would get redshirted. I don't want him to transfer, i know some are really down on Felix but i love his potential. The SG will be whoever can knock down the most open looks, Which is DLO but I would not be surprised to see branch and Rysheed on the court together against press heavy teams. Only lock starters would be Dom, Jakarr, Rysheed IMO. I would assume Sanchez would start over CO and DLO over anyone else at the 2 but that depends on where he is at psychologically.
If we get Sheed and everyone else stays, it would be really a great thing if lavin was able to convince Felix and Jones to both redshirt. I doubt that happens.
I do love the upside of both players
Neither will redshirt. Minutes are there for both if they develop.
re: Felix is a much more natural, albeit undersized, wing/3. Dom will get into plenty of foul trouble and he can thrive running with two guards on the floor with him.
I was told again today that Gift is the guy who may choose to go elsewhere. Staff wants him back.
Hope he doesn't. Staff can't ignore the need for depth. We just ended the season on fumes.
-
If the rumors of Rysheed's commitment are true, then we are going to be in great shape for next season. With Sampson, Sanchez, D'Lo and Jordan on the floor - that is plenty of offensive fire-power. Any fifth player on the floor should have plenty of open looks. Defenses will have to be able to play us honest.
I'm particularly excited about Jordan's ability to put the ball on the floor and get to the rim. His handle looks awesome. Hopefully he has the ability to dish as well. That will be huge next year to have him along with a fully healed Branch. We should take a lot more free-throws next year.
Dare I say that we might be a solid three point shooting team next year? It seems like a dream, but when you look at the individual pieces it seems like we have some pretty good options: D'Lo stats show he's actually a solid three-point shooter, Jordan seems to have a pretty good three point shot from the you-tube videos, posters have said that Sanchez has a good outside shot... and then add Hooper to the mix.
-
I was told again today that Gift is the guy who may choose to go elsewhere. Staff wants him back.
I, too, heard again that Gift is going to Harvard. I would love to have him back but if he has that option, I wish him the best.
It's hard to begrudge a kid who would want to get an advanced degree at Harvard. Good for him. It's nice to see. It would be nice if he stayed for our basketball purposes however, his muscle would be nice to have to spell the other front-court players.
-
I agree that Gift will likely have a role off the bench, absent big time improvement from Jones in the offseason on his interior game/rebounding. Will be interesting to see how this all plays out.
-
Can afford to lose 1 of the two. Can't lose both.
If the Sr leaves try to plug another 5th yr guy. If the soon to be Soph leaves find a conventional transfer.
-
Can afford to lose 1 of the two. Can't lose both.
If the Sr leaves try to plug another 5th yr guy. If the soon to be Soph leaves find a conventional transfer.
The thing is gift can play center and I don't think Jones can, and I really don't want him to leave.
-
Agree on both points. Gift with an extra two years of maturation can give us a situation where we have platoon with CO/Gift (I guess Sanchez could play there at times if we went really small or against certain teams). But I think Jones has upside. I hope the latter sees the big picture; even if he doesn't play a major role (or even a significant supporting role) next year, he can improve each day playing against good players, and be in a position to log major minutes as a junior with Sanchez/Gift gone, and possibly Sampson (although I still wouldn't rule him out as being a 3 year guy).
-
Think our favorite walk on gives up his number?
-
I think even if Dangelo comes back; nobody's going to play 38mins anymore. Including Jakarr. If we truly want to press and run all game, then there will be minutes available for both Felix and Jones. Maybe not a ton, but there's room for a 10 man rotation if we play uptempo like coach espouses.
Gift, well....best of luck. If rumors are true, then he's getting a year of grad school st Harvard for free, and the chance to play more than he would here.
Also, some of us have been saying since November that Gift would graduate and transfer. So this shouldn't be a complete shock to the members of this board.
-
I think even if Dangelo comes back; nobody's going to play 38mins anymore. Including Jakarr. If we truly want to press and run all game, then there will be minutes available for both Felix and Jones. Maybe not a ton, but there's room for a 10 man rotation if we play uptempo like coach espouses.
Gift, well....best of luck. If rumors are true, then he's getting a year of grad school st Harvard for free, and the chance to play more than he would here.
Also, some of us have been saying since November that Gift would graduate and transfer. So this shouldn't be a complete shock to the members of this board.
If rysheed and Dlo are on the team next year id like to see no one average more than 30 minutes. There's enough talent to spread it out.
-
I think even if Dangelo comes back; nobody's going to play 38mins anymore. Including Jakarr. If we truly want to press and run all game, then there will be minutes available for both Felix and Jones. Maybe not a ton, but there's room for a 10 man rotation if we play uptempo like coach espouses.
Gift, well....best of luck. If rumors are true, then he's getting a year of grad school st Harvard for free, and the chance to play more than he would here.
Also, some of us have been saying since November that Gift would graduate and transfer. So this shouldn't be a complete shock to the members of this board.
Gift is needed this year. Just like he was needed last year. We are not bringing in a center.
-
I think even if Dangelo comes back; nobody's going to play 38mins anymore. Including Jakarr. If we truly want to press and run all game, then there will be minutes available for both Felix and Jones. Maybe not a ton, but there's room for a 10 man rotation if we play uptempo like coach espouses.
Gift, well....best of luck. If rumors are true, then he's getting a year of grad school st Harvard for free, and the chance to play more than he would here.
Also, some of us have been saying since November that Gift would graduate and transfer. So this shouldn't be a complete shock to the members of this board.
If rysheed and Dlo are on the team next year id like to see no one average more than 30 minutes. There's enough talent to spread it out.
Totally agree Mase. I thought there were times this year when Dangelo or Greene didn't have their legs down the stretch because they had played virtually the whole game.
I'd like to see us literally press full court for 40 minutes, and then on offense push the ball up and try to get easy transition buckets.
If we play that way at a high intensity guys will need a breather.
-
I think even if Dangelo comes back; nobody's going to play 38mins anymore. Including Jakarr. If we truly want to press and run all game, then there will be minutes available for both Felix and Jones. Maybe not a ton, but there's room for a 10 man rotation if we play uptempo like coach espouses.
Gift, well....best of luck. If rumors are true, then he's getting a year of grad school st Harvard for free, and the chance to play more than he would here.
Also, some of us have been saying since November that Gift would graduate and transfer. So this shouldn't be a complete shock to the members of this board.
If rysheed and Dlo are on the team next year id like to see no one average more than 30 minutes. There's enough talent to spread it out.
Totally agree Mase. I thought there were times this year when Dangelo or Greene didn't have their legs down the stretch because they had played virtually the whole game.
I'd like to see us literally press full court for 40 minutes, and then on offense push the ball up and try to get easy transition buckets.
If we play that way at a high intensity guys will need a breather.
People thought I was one of the many who ragged on Phil. His production will GO UP with less minutes.
-
I think even if Dangelo comes back; nobody's going to play 38mins anymore. Including Jakarr. If we truly want to press and run all game, then there will be minutes available for both Felix and Jones. Maybe not a ton, but there's room for a 10 man rotation if we play uptempo like coach espouses.
Gift, well....best of luck. If rumors are true, then he's getting a year of grad school st Harvard for free, and the chance to play more than he would here.
Also, some of us have been saying since November that Gift would graduate and transfer. So this shouldn't be a complete shock to the members of this board.
If rysheed and Dlo are on the team next year id like to see no one average more than 30 minutes. There's enough talent to spread it out.
Totally agree Mase. I thought there were times this year when Dangelo or Greene didn't have their legs down the stretch because they had played virtually the whole game.
I'd like to see us literally press full court for 40 minutes, and then on offense push the ball up and try to get easy transition buckets.
If we play that way at a high intensity guys will need a breather.
People thought I was one of the many who ragged on Phil. His production will GO UP with less minutes.
You can't be a PG if you can't pass the ball with confidence. Phil can't be a shooting guard if he can't shoot the ball. So, if he plays, and of course I agree he should play less, what position do you play the guy who doesn't have one?
-
I think even if Dangelo comes back; nobody's going to play 38mins anymore. Including Jakarr. If we truly want to press and run all game, then there will be minutes available for both Felix and Jones. Maybe not a ton, but there's room for a 10 man rotation if we play uptempo like coach espouses.
Gift, well....best of luck. If rumors are true, then he's getting a year of grad school st Harvard for free, and the chance to play more than he would here.
Also, some of us have been saying since November that Gift would graduate and transfer. So this shouldn't be a complete shock to the members of this board.
If rysheed and Dlo are on the team next year id like to see no one average more than 30 minutes. There's enough talent to spread it out.
Totally agree Mase. I thought there were times this year when Dangelo or Greene didn't have their legs down the stretch because they had played virtually the whole game.
I'd like to see us literally press full court for 40 minutes, and then on offense push the ball up and try to get easy transition buckets.
If we play that way at a high intensity guys will need a breather.
People thought I was one of the many who ragged on Phil. His production will GO UP with less minutes.
You can't be a PG if you can't pass the ball with confidence. Phil can't be a shooting guard if he can't shoot the ball. So, if he plays, and of course I agree he should play less, what position do you play the guy who doesn't have one?
I'm not Phil's biggest fan either, but I'll give him this... I think he's our best defender after Dom. People raved about Branch's defense, and Obekpa can block shots like a monster; but Phil plays as good man to man as anyone on the team.
And he's a pest to ball handlers.
There's a role for him on this team. It's Lavins job to find out how to get the most out of him.
But he plays above average D and has a legitimate pro level skill with his floater.
The dribbling, court vision, and outside shooting? That's a different story.
-
I think even if Dangelo comes back; nobody's going to play 38mins anymore. Including Jakarr. If we truly want to press and run all game, then there will be minutes available for both Felix and Jones. Maybe not a ton, but there's room for a 10 man rotation if we play uptempo like coach espouses.
Gift, well....best of luck. If rumors are true, then he's getting a year of grad school st Harvard for free, and the chance to play more than he would here.
Also, some of us have been saying since November that Gift would graduate and transfer. So this shouldn't be a complete shock to the members of this board.
If rysheed and Dlo are on the team next year id like to see no one average more than 30 minutes. There's enough talent to spread it out.
Totally agree Mase. I thought there were times this year when Dangelo or Greene didn't have their legs down the stretch because they had played virtually the whole game.
I'd like to see us literally press full court for 40 minutes, and then on offense push the ball up and try to get easy transition buckets.
If we play that way at a high intensity guys will need a breather.
People thought I was one of the many who ragged on Phil. His production will GO UP with less minutes.
You can't be a PG if you can't pass the ball with confidence. Phil can't be a shooting guard if he can't shoot the ball. So, if he plays, and of course I agree he should play less, what position do you play the guy who doesn't have one?
I'm not Phil's biggest fan either, but I'll give him this... I think he's our best defender after Dom. People raved about Branch's defense, and Obekpa can block shots like a monster; but Phil plays as good man to man as anyone on the team.
And he's a pest to ball handlers.
There's a role for him on this team. It's Lavins job to find out how to get the most out of him.
But he plays above average D and has a legitimate pro level skill with his floater.
The dribbling, court vision, and outside shooting? That's a different story.
He has to work hard this summer on his j. He didn't lose his job yet.
-
Just heard again St Johns.... ...No need to speculate about twitter or what hat he bought....hes on board folks.
This is great news. Our biggest weakness was our PG play. People doubting Lavin eat crow.
-
Someone mentions Gift going to Harvard. Never heard that before. I know I am in the minority here, but I've felt that Gift will suprise people for us next year, that he'll be a bigger contributor than many think. I don't want to see him transfer. Seems like no one ever talks about him here, apart from saying he'll ride the bench. I always felt he never was able to get into a groove, always fearing foul trouble, having to play tentatively. I think it will be a shame if he goes.
-
While Temple is playing the defending the National champion...
next season, Rysheed Jordan will be playing DePaul, Seton Hall the rest of the Big East.
Enjoy your time Black Jesus!
From a Temple board ;D
Man I thought our fans were pretty bad...
Also they've been calling for firing Dunphy. Correct me if I'm wrong but hasn't he been doing a solid job there. They seem to be a tourny team year in and out...
-
Can afford to lose 1 of the two. Can't lose both.
If the Sr leaves try to plug another 5th yr guy. If the soon to be Soph leaves find a conventional transfer.
As far as immediately eligible transfers with connections to NYC go, Kanacevic fits the bill (though he hasn't expressed interest in moving on . . . yet). Martelli was a dick with Todd O'Brien, though.
-
While Temple is playing the defending the National champion...
next season, Rysheed Jordan will be playing DePaul, Seton Hall the rest of the Big East.
Enjoy your time Black Jesus!
From a Temple board ;D
Man I thought our fans were pretty bad...
Also they've been calling for firing Dunphy. Correct me if I'm wrong but hasn't he been doing a solid job there. They seem to be a tourny team year in and out...
I guess that poster doesn't realize that we have a good shot at 6 invites next year to the dance. The America 12 isn't decimated yet but it will be soon enough.
-
Also on a Temple board:
It looks unlikely that well get jordan right now. In a last ditch effort I sent him a tweet saying that Johnnie coaches are bragging aout getting you and they blew your secret. Who knows might piss him off toward Johnnies and cause him to change his mind. Folks go on his twitter and tell him the same thing. Can't hurt.
-
I'm a pretty apathetic fan (and person in general) but I'm getting fairly giddy at the thought of a potential Jordan-Harrison-Sampson-Sanchez-Obekpa lineup down the road somewhere.
Please let everything go good for ONE offseason...
-
Also on a Temple board:
It looks unlikely that well get jordan right now. In a last ditch effort I sent him a tweet saying that Johnnie coaches are bragging aout getting you and they blew your secret. Who knows might piss him off toward Johnnies and cause him to change his mind. Folks go on his twitter and tell him the same thing. Can't hurt.
Lets not.
-
Also on a Temple board:
It looks unlikely that well get jordan right now. In a last ditch effort I sent him a tweet saying that Johnnie coaches are bragging aout getting you and they blew your secret. Who knows might piss him off toward Johnnies and cause him to change his mind. Folks go on his twitter and tell him the same thing. Can't hurt.
Lets not.
Don't engage don't do anything.
Just like when Lawrence decided to go to Cincy don't engage in nonsense or attacks and don't bait Cincy fans.
And now don't bait Temple fans or Rysheed.
You win recruiting battles with class and you lose them the same way.
But this is what I was talking about in terms of Temple board meltdown. Much like RU with Lance Thomas.
-
Just heard again St Johns.... ...No need to speculate about twitter or what hat he bought....hes on board folks.
This is great news. Our biggest weakness was our PG play. People doubting Lavin eat crow.
No one doubts his recruiting....it's his coaching. Now lets see him take this kid and make him a better player a la pitino and his staff with Hancock, Henderson and the big white kid
-
hopefully with this depth and Jordan on board, we can run the press all / most of the game - take some pointers from VCU and Shaka
-
hopefully with this depth and Jordan on board, we can run the press all / most of the game - take some pointers from VCU and Shaka
I hope so
-
hopefully with this depth and Jordan on board, we can run the press all / most of the game - take some pointers from VCU and Shaka
Amen. This was the thing that bothered me the most this year. We have so many long athletes...probably the most athletic team in the country...but we gave a half-assed press. I really liked what I saw the last few games in terms of pressure. No excuse to not press most of the game with another athlete like Sheed who has skill to do some damage in the open court.
I think a combined extra 40-50 pounds of muscle on these boys will really help things out in that department.
-
I was told again today that Gift is the guy who may choose to go elsewhere. Staff wants him back.
I, too, heard again that Gift is going to Harvard. I would love to have him back but if he has that option, I wish him the best.
I would like to see Gift back. If he transfers his redshirting will turn out to be a real fiasco. We could have used him this year. Regardless, I am excited about next year.
-
Russ Smith and Dieng are better examples of guys who seemed to improve by leaps and bounds over the years with Pitino and Co. I don't know where Dieng was ranked coming out of high school, but he was extremely raw as a frosh and now has become a well-rounded player who can not only block shots/defend, but also shoot and pass the ball. I'm pretty sure saw I saw on a prior thread that Smith wasn't by any means a stud recruit either, and he ended up being the best player on the national championship team (although he didn't play well last night, and they were a team that won through contributions from several really good/solid players, as opposed to any one star).
-
I was told again today that Gift is the guy who may choose to go elsewhere. Staff wants him back.
I, too, heard again that Gift is going to Harvard. I would love to have him back but if he has that option, I wish him the best.
I would like to see Gift back. If he transfers his redshirting will turn out to be a real fiasco. We could have used him this year. Regardless, I am excited about next year.
Lavin might be a bimbo as Fun says, but he knows enough to use a player who could help him win.
Gift would not have helped. Dunlap came to that conclusion 2 years ago. Lavin cam to that conclusion this year.
All last summer when coach was heaping praise on everyone, did he ever mention Gift doing well? Nope. He talked about Dom and Harrison and Jones being a sleeper...never said he expected good things from Gift, Just mentioned that he's a good student.
Everyone needs to get over the Gift infatuation. For his size he was a poor defender and rebounder. And that was all he was really being used for anyway.
-
Also on a Temple board:
It looks unlikely that well get jordan right now. In a last ditch effort I sent him a tweet saying that Johnnie coaches are bragging aout getting you and they blew your secret. Who knows might piss him off toward Johnnies and cause him to change his mind. Folks go on his twitter and tell him the same thing. Can't hurt.
Lets not.
Don't engage don't do anything.
Just like when Lawrence decided to go to Cincy don't engage in nonsense or attacks and don't bait Cincy fans.
And now don't bait Temple fans or Rysheed.
You win recruiting battles with class and you lose them the same way.
But this is what I was talking about in terms of Temple board meltdown. Much like RU with Lance Thomas.
Just so there's no confusion, the only part of the post that is my words is "Also on a Temple board:"
I was not advocating going to anyone's twitter or board. Just wanted to show what one poster had written.
-
Agree gift was a poor post defender and rebounder. However he considerably better then the guys we had this year. He is not great, but could have been serviceable. Think we beat nova early on with him. Also would love to have that scholarship this year.
-
Someone mentions Gift going to Harvard. Never heard that before. I know I am in the minority here, but I've felt that Gift will suprise people for us next year, that he'll be a bigger contributor than many think. I don't want to see him transfer. Seems like no one ever talks about him here, apart from saying he'll ride the bench. I always felt he never was able to get into a groove, always fearing foul trouble, having to play tentatively. I think it will be a shame if he goes.
Does Gift to Harvard for next season make ANY sense? The talk of his agreeing to the redshirt this year as a senior is that it gives him an extra year on full athletic scholarship - a Post Grad year paid for. Ivy league schools don't HAVE athletic scholarships.
-
Someone mentions Gift going to Harvard. Never heard that before. I know I am in the minority here, but I've felt that Gift will suprise people for us next year, that he'll be a bigger contributor than many think. I don't want to see him transfer. Seems like no one ever talks about him here, apart from saying he'll ride the bench. I always felt he never was able to get into a groove, always fearing foul trouble, having to play tentatively. I think it will be a shame if he goes.
Does Gift to Harvard for next season make ANY sense? The talk of his agreeing to the redshirt this year as a senior is that it gives him an extra year on full athletic scholarship - a Post Grad year paid for. Ivy league schools don't HAVE athletic scholarships.
Harvard meets 100% of its students needs in financial aid. They calculate what they think your parents (or the student) can afford, and they pick up the rest of the tab.
And yes, it makes perfect sense if coach told him last summer; there's not a lot of playing time here for you, you can transfer now and have to sit out a year, or stay here as a redshirt, graduate, and you can transfer without penalty and you'll have a degree.
-
Wouldn't coach want to use that schollie on an incoming kid, as opposed to just keeping someone around he knew was gone anyway...
-
Someone mentions Gift going to Harvard. Never heard that before. I know I am in the minority here, but I've felt that Gift will suprise people for us next year, that he'll be a bigger contributor than many think. I don't want to see him transfer. Seems like no one ever talks about him here, apart from saying he'll ride the bench. I always felt he never was able to get into a groove, always fearing foul trouble, having to play tentatively. I think it will be a shame if he goes.
Does Gift to Harvard for next season make ANY sense? The talk of his agreeing to the redshirt this year as a senior is that it gives him an extra year on full athletic scholarship - a Post Grad year paid for. Ivy league schools don't HAVE athletic scholarships.
Harvard meets 100% of its students needs in financial aid. They calculate what they think your parents (or the student) can afford, and they pick up the rest of the tab.
And yes, it makes perfect sense if coach told him last summer; there's not a lot of playing time here for you, you can transfer now and have to sit out a year, or stay here as a redshirt, graduate, and you can transfer without penalty and you'll have a degree.
He should go to Stanford and have them pick up 100 percent of bill.
-
Also on a Temple board:
It looks unlikely that well get jordan right now. In a last ditch effort I sent him a tweet saying that Johnnie coaches are bragging aout getting you and they blew your secret. Who knows might piss him off toward Johnnies and cause him to change his mind. Folks go on his twitter and tell him the same thing. Can't hurt.
Lets not.
Don't engage don't do anything.
Just like when Lawrence decided to go to Cincy don't engage in nonsense or attacks and don't bait Cincy fans.
And now don't bait Temple fans or Rysheed.
You win recruiting battles with class and you lose them the same way.
But this is what I was talking about in terms of Temple board meltdown. Much like RU with Lance Thomas.
Just so there's no confusion, the only part of the post that is my words is "Also on a Temple board:"
I was not advocating going to anyone's twitter or board. Just wanted to show what one poster had written.
Fair enough.
-
Someone mentions Gift going to Harvard. Never heard that before. I know I am in the minority here, but I've felt that Gift will suprise people for us next year, that he'll be a bigger contributor than many think. I don't want to see him transfer. Seems like no one ever talks about him here, apart from saying he'll ride the bench. I always felt he never was able to get into a groove, always fearing foul trouble, having to play tentatively. I think it will be a shame if he goes.
Does Gift to Harvard for next season make ANY sense? The talk of his agreeing to the redshirt this year as a senior is that it gives him an extra year on full athletic scholarship - a Post Grad year paid for. Ivy league schools don't HAVE athletic scholarships.
Harvard meets 100% of its students needs in financial aid. They calculate what they think your parents (or the student) can afford, and they pick up the rest of the tab.
And yes, it makes perfect sense if coach told him last summer; there's not a lot of playing time here for you, you can transfer now and have to sit out a year, or stay here as a redshirt, graduate, and you can transfer without penalty and you'll have a degree.
No, they don't. From a Crimson article on recruit Noah Allen, who'll be a freshman at UCLA next year http://www.thecrimson.com/article/2012/10/3/noah-allen-decommits-100212/ (http://www.thecrimson.com/article/2012/10/3/noah-allen-decommits-100212/) :
Harvard men’s basketball recruit Noah Allen rescinded his verbal commitment to the Crimson and reopened his recruitment on Monday, citing financial aid concerns.
“My family can’t afford 60 grand a year, and that’s what the financial aid people told us it would cost,” Allen said. “It broke my heart. I really wanted to go to Harvard, but the numbers didn’t add up.”
Allen, ranked as the 29th best small forward in this year’s senior class by ESPN, fell in love with Harvard early on in the recruiting process.
“It wasn’t even really about basketball,” Allen said. “The prestige, that’s why I committed.”
The current high school senior committed in late July, following a visit to campus.
“I got there and I fell in love with it,” Allen said. “It wasn’t what I expected, but I knew it was where I wanted to go.”
But Allen's quest to attend Harvard was thwarted at roughly the same time by the financial aid office’s projected contribution package.
“One reason I committed [in July] was that [the financial aid office] said it would cost five or ten percent of my family’s income,” Allen said. “And then they came back [asking for] the whole thing and it caught [my family] off guard a little bit. We just can’t do that. My parents can’t go into debt.”
At that point, Allen tried everything he could to get the office to reconsider their estimate, but to no avail.
“They thought they could get [the price] down, but it just didn’t happen,” Allen said. “We tried everything, but they said, ‘No, we can’t give you anything.’”
Allen, who said he has a 3.9 GPA at Palma School in Salinas, Calif., was confident that he would meet the academic requirements needed to get admitted to Harvard.
But due to financial concerns, he and his family finally concluded Monday that his dream wasn’t going to come true. That night, Allen tweeted, “Doing what I just did sucks.”
This isn’t the first time that the Crimson has lost a prized recruit due to issues of financial aid, as the Ivy League does not allow athletic scholarships. In 2009, Rod Odom Jr., a top 100 prospect in the class of 2012, chose to enroll at Arizona rather than Harvard. He later recommitted to Vanderbilt.
“The thing that prevented Harvard from being in the last two was when we got the financial aid indication, which—compared to a full scholarship—couldn’t be a consideration for us,” Rod Odom Sr. told The Crimson in March.
-
Why is everybody chasing Gift out? I don't think he's bad at all. He can help us next year in the post against some teams.
-
Why is everybody chasing Gift out? I don't think he's bad at all. He can help us next year in the post against some teams.
I'm definitely looking forward to him spelling other front court players for the team. He's got a big body and he'll be needed against certain opponents. He'll have quite a bit of time between playing seasons, hopefully he's improve things like free-throw shooting, rebounding, blocking out, etc.
-
Another game: http://www.youtube.com/playlist?annotation_id=annotation_19925&feature=iv&list=PLA6u1EbAQhDWpqoggZxOJaUV_p5kYbCHR&src_vid=CLgOYulGXfA (http://www.youtube.com/playlist?annotation_id=annotation_19925&feature=iv&list=PLA6u1EbAQhDWpqoggZxOJaUV_p5kYbCHR&src_vid=CLgOYulGXfA)
-
Why is everybody chasing Gift out? I don't think he's bad at all. He can help us next year in the post against some teams.
Im definitely not. I like him as a backup big. Can really help us be a little more physical down low.
-
Someone mentions Gift going to Harvard. Never heard that before. I know I am in the minority here, but I've felt that Gift will suprise people for us next year, that he'll be a bigger contributor than many think. I don't want to see him transfer. Seems like no one ever talks about him here, apart from saying he'll ride the bench. I always felt he never was able to get into a groove, always fearing foul trouble, having to play tentatively. I think it will be a shame if he goes.
Does Gift to Harvard for next season make ANY sense? The talk of his agreeing to the redshirt this year as a senior is that it gives him an extra year on full athletic scholarship - a Post Grad year paid for. Ivy league schools don't HAVE athletic scholarships.
Harvard meets 100% of its students needs in financial aid. They calculate what they think your parents (or the student) can afford, and they pick up the rest of the tab.
And yes, it makes perfect sense if coach told him last summer; there's not a lot of playing time here for you, you can transfer now and have to sit out a year, or stay here as a redshirt, graduate, and you can transfer without penalty and you'll have a degree.
No, they don't. From a Crimson article on recruit Noah Allen, who'll be a freshman at UCLA next year http://www.thecrimson.com/article/2012/10/3/noah-allen-decommits-100212/ (http://www.thecrimson.com/article/2012/10/3/noah-allen-decommits-100212/) :
Harvard men’s basketball recruit Noah Allen rescinded his verbal commitment to the Crimson and reopened his recruitment on Monday, citing financial aid concerns.
“My family can’t afford 60 grand a year, and that’s what the financial aid people told us it would cost,” Allen said. “It broke my heart. I really wanted to go to Harvard, but the numbers didn’t add up.”
Allen, ranked as the 29th best small forward in this year’s senior class by ESPN, fell in love with Harvard early on in the recruiting process.
“It wasn’t even really about basketball,” Allen said. “The prestige, that’s why I committed.”
The current high school senior committed in late July, following a visit to campus.
“I got there and I fell in love with it,” Allen said. “It wasn’t what I expected, but I knew it was where I wanted to go.”
But Allen's quest to attend Harvard was thwarted at roughly the same time by the financial aid office’s projected contribution package.
“One reason I committed [in July] was that [the financial aid office] said it would cost five or ten percent of my family’s income,” Allen said. “And then they came back [asking for] the whole thing and it caught [my family] off guard a little bit. We just can’t do that. My parents can’t go into debt.”
At that point, Allen tried everything he could to get the office to reconsider their estimate, but to no avail.
“They thought they could get [the price] down, but it just didn’t happen,” Allen said. “We tried everything, but they said, ‘No, we can’t give you anything.’”
Allen, who said he has a 3.9 GPA at Palma School in Salinas, Calif., was confident that he would meet the academic requirements needed to get admitted to Harvard.
But due to financial concerns, he and his family finally concluded Monday that his dream wasn’t going to come true. That night, Allen tweeted, “Doing what I just did sucks.”
This isn’t the first time that the Crimson has lost a prized recruit due to issues of financial aid, as the Ivy League does not allow athletic scholarships. In 2009, Rod Odom Jr., a top 100 prospect in the class of 2012, chose to enroll at Arizona rather than Harvard. He later recommitted to Vanderbilt.
“The thing that prevented Harvard from being in the last two was when we got the financial aid indication, which—compared to a full scholarship—couldn’t be a consideration for us,” Rod Odom Sr. told The Crimson in March.
If Harvard was telling him it would be 60k then his parents are making over 150k or 160k or something like that.
Lower income earners most definitely get either full rides or almost full rides. I think the number is 60k-70k and under gets full schollie and between that number and the 150k it's between 0 and 10% of your parents income that you have to pay
-
Why is everybody chasing Gift out? I don't think he's bad at all. He can help us next year in the post against some teams.
Agreed. He is not a stiff.
-
Someone mentions Gift going to Harvard. Never heard that before. I know I am in the minority here, but I've felt that Gift will suprise people for us next year, that he'll be a bigger contributor than many think. I don't want to see him transfer. Seems like no one ever talks about him here, apart from saying he'll ride the bench. I always felt he never was able to get into a groove, always fearing foul trouble, having to play tentatively. I think it will be a shame if he goes.
Does Gift to Harvard for next season make ANY sense? The talk of his agreeing to the redshirt this year as a senior is that it gives him an extra year on full athletic scholarship - a Post Grad year paid for. Ivy league schools don't HAVE athletic scholarships.
They are generous w the financial aid. My brother was a wrestler and got into Columbia, would have cost him the same as if he went to a state school. I like the idea of having a strong body w Gift. But he would have been more valuable this year and we would have an extra scholi to restock.
-
Just another guy's opinion FWIW...from "@TheBBallDiary"
"Where is the Philadelphia version of Skip To My Lou AKA Rysheed Jordan going? Guessing Temple then UCLA then St John's."
-
Someone mentions Gift going to Harvard. Never heard that before. I know I am in the minority here, but I've felt that Gift will suprise people for us next year, that he'll be a bigger contributor than many think. I don't want to see him transfer. Seems like no one ever talks about him here, apart from saying he'll ride the bench. I always felt he never was able to get into a groove, always fearing foul trouble, having to play tentatively. I think it will be a shame if he goes.
Does Gift to Harvard for next season make ANY sense? The talk of his agreeing to the redshirt this year as a senior is that it gives him an extra year on full athletic scholarship - a Post Grad year paid for. Ivy league schools don't HAVE athletic scholarships.
Harvard meets 100% of its students needs in financial aid. They calculate what they think your parents (or the student) can afford, and they pick up the rest of the tab.
And yes, it makes perfect sense if coach told him last summer; there's not a lot of playing time here for you, you can transfer now and have to sit out a year, or stay here as a redshirt, graduate, and you can transfer without penalty and you'll have a degree.
No, they don't. From a Crimson article on recruit Noah Allen, who'll be a freshman at UCLA next year http://www.thecrimson.com/article/2012/10/3/noah-allen-decommits-100212/ (http://www.thecrimson.com/article/2012/10/3/noah-allen-decommits-100212/) :
Harvard men’s basketball recruit Noah Allen rescinded his verbal commitment to the Crimson and reopened his recruitment on Monday, citing financial aid concerns.
“My family can’t afford 60 grand a year, and that’s what the financial aid people told us it would cost,” Allen said. “It broke my heart. I really wanted to go to Harvard, but the numbers didn’t add up.”
Allen, ranked as the 29th best small forward in this year’s senior class by ESPN, fell in love with Harvard early on in the recruiting process.
“It wasn’t even really about basketball,” Allen said. “The prestige, that’s why I committed.”
The current high school senior committed in late July, following a visit to campus.
“I got there and I fell in love with it,” Allen said. “It wasn’t what I expected, but I knew it was where I wanted to go.”
But Allen's quest to attend Harvard was thwarted at roughly the same time by the financial aid office’s projected contribution package.
“One reason I committed [in July] was that [the financial aid office] said it would cost five or ten percent of my family’s income,” Allen said. “And then they came back [asking for] the whole thing and it caught [my family] off guard a little bit. We just can’t do that. My parents can’t go into debt.”
At that point, Allen tried everything he could to get the office to reconsider their estimate, but to no avail.
“They thought they could get [the price] down, but it just didn’t happen,” Allen said. “We tried everything, but they said, ‘No, we can’t give you anything.’”
Allen, who said he has a 3.9 GPA at Palma School in Salinas, Calif., was confident that he would meet the academic requirements needed to get admitted to Harvard.
But due to financial concerns, he and his family finally concluded Monday that his dream wasn’t going to come true. That night, Allen tweeted, “Doing what I just did sucks.”
This isn’t the first time that the Crimson has lost a prized recruit due to issues of financial aid, as the Ivy League does not allow athletic scholarships. In 2009, Rod Odom Jr., a top 100 prospect in the class of 2012, chose to enroll at Arizona rather than Harvard. He later recommitted to Vanderbilt.
“The thing that prevented Harvard from being in the last two was when we got the financial aid indication, which—compared to a full scholarship—couldn’t be a consideration for us,” Rod Odom Sr. told The Crimson in March.
If Harvard was telling him it would be 60k then his parents are making over 150k or 160k or something like that.
Lower income earners most definitely get either full rides or almost full rides. I think the number is 60k-70k and under gets full schollie and between that number and the 150k it's between 0 and 10% of your parents income that you have to pay
At this point he is not an undergraduate and it would appear you folks are talking about undergrad policies
-
I was told again today that Gift is the guy who may choose to go elsewhere. Staff wants him back.
I, too, heard again that Gift is going to Harvard. I would love to have him back but if he has that option, I wish him the best.
I would like to see Gift back. If he transfers his redshirting will turn out to be a real fiasco. We could have used him this year. Regardless, I am excited about next year.
Lavin might be a bimbo as Fun says, but he knows enough to use a player who could help him win.
Gift would not have helped. Dunlap came to that conclusion 2 years ago. Lavin cam to that conclusion this year.
All last summer when coach was heaping praise on everyone, did he ever mention Gift doing well? Nope. He talked about Dom and Harrison and Jones being a sleeper...never said he expected good things from Gift, Just mentioned that he's a good student.
Everyone needs to get over the Gift infatuation. For his size he was a poor defender and rebounder. And that was all he was really being used for anyway.
Desco, a few of us had a conversation with Lavin after last year's UCLA game. He was very complimentary of Gifts game and was looking forward to him having a strong senior season. He was confident that he had good front court players coming into the program. He used the strong second half of Evans senior year as a point of comparison. He thought that Gift would be much more effective without having to play forty minutes.
Take it for what it's worth.
-
Can we keep this about Rysheed? He is way more important than Gift and whether he's here or not.
-
I was told again today that Gift is the guy who may choose to go elsewhere. Staff wants him back.
I, too, heard again that Gift is going to Harvard. I would love to have him back but if he has that option, I wish him the best.
I would like to see Gift back. If he transfers his redshirting will turn out to be a real fiasco. We could have used him this year. Regardless, I am excited about next year.
Lavin might be a bimbo as Fun says, but he knows enough to use a player who could help him win.
Gift would not have helped. Dunlap came to that conclusion 2 years ago. Lavin cam to that conclusion this year.
All last summer when coach was heaping praise on everyone, did he ever mention Gift doing well? Nope. He talked about Dom and Harrison and Jones being a sleeper...never said he expected good things from Gift, Just mentioned that he's a good student.
Everyone needs to get over the Gift infatuation. For his size he was a poor defender and rebounder. And that was all he was really being used for anyway.
Desco, a few of us had a conversation with Lavin after last year's UCLA game. He was very complimentary of Gifts game and was looking forward to him having a strong senior season. He was confident that he had good front court players coming into the program. He used the strong second half of Evans senior year as a point of comparison. He thought that Gift would be much more effective without having to play forty minutes.
Take it for what it's worth.
Ok, fair enough. Maybe he is in the plans for next year then. I have my doubts, but it's certainly possible.
And Maher has the details right, Undergrad at Harvard you don't pay a thing if your parents make 65k, above that they ask you to pay 0-10% of your family's yearly income. So no more than 16k at most for those families.
Essentially you pay little or nothing if your coming from a disadvantaged situation.
But Schmerhorn is also right, I wasn't realizing - that policy is for undergrad. Not grad school. Don't have a clue how athletics/financial aid come into play for the cost of that.
But regardless, yes, I stand by the fact that I think Gift transferring makes a lot of sense for him. I could be wrong, and he may be a big contributor. We will see.
Jordan shouldn't affect that decision in any way though.
-
I was told again today that Gift is the guy who may choose to go elsewhere. Staff wants him back.
I, too, heard again that Gift is going to Harvard. I would love to have him back but if he has that option, I wish him the best.
I would like to see Gift back. If he transfers his redshirting will turn out to be a real fiasco. We could have used him this year. Regardless, I am excited about next year.
Lavin might be a bimbo as Fun says, but he knows enough to use a player who could help him win.
Gift would not have helped. Dunlap came to that conclusion 2 years ago. Lavin cam to that conclusion this year.
All last summer when coach was heaping praise on everyone, did he ever mention Gift doing well? Nope. He talked about Dom and Harrison and Jones being a sleeper...never said he expected good things from Gift, Just mentioned that he's a good student.
Everyone needs to get over the Gift infatuation. For his size he was a poor defender and rebounder. And that was all he was really being used for anyway.
Desco, a few of us had a conversation with Lavin after last year's UCLA game. He was very complimentary of Gifts game and was looking forward to him having a strong senior season. He was confident that he had good front court players coming into the program. He used the strong second half of Evans senior year as a point of comparison. He thought that Gift would be much more effective without having to play forty minutes.
Take it for what it's worth.
I don't doubt for a second that Lavin would feel that way, but it ultimately depends on Gift. I'm not sure how Gift would fit in with Harvard's style, though. I think there is room for him in our lineup with Amir gone, but how many minutes he gets will depend upon how smoothly Sampson can play SF. I think Jones will split, so there's five guys up front to rotate between three positions. And I guess Hooper will see some duty up there too if he's really 6'5" or 6'6".
-
Just another guy's opinion FWIW...from "@TheBBallDiary"
"Where is the Philadelphia version of Skip To My Lou AKA Rysheed Jordan going? Guessing Temple then UCLA then St John's."
So he's predicting the kid will tranfer TWICE in his college career? Shades of Trey Zeigler! ;)
-
I was told again today that Gift is the guy who may choose to go elsewhere. Staff wants him back.
I, too, heard again that Gift is going to Harvard. I would love to have him back but if he has that option, I wish him the best.
I would like to see Gift back. If he transfers his redshirting will turn out to be a real fiasco. We could have used him this year. Regardless, I am excited about next year.
Lavin might be a bimbo as Fun says, but he knows enough to use a player who could help him win.
Gift would not have helped. Dunlap came to that conclusion 2 years ago. Lavin cam to that conclusion this year.
All last summer when coach was heaping praise on everyone, did he ever mention Gift doing well? Nope. He talked about Dom and Harrison and Jones being a sleeper...never said he expected good things from Gift, Just mentioned that he's a good student.
Everyone needs to get over the Gift infatuation. For his size he was a poor defender and rebounder. And that was all he was really being used for anyway.
Desco, a few of us had a conversation with Lavin after last year's UCLA game. He was very complimentary of Gifts game and was looking forward to him having a strong senior season. He was confident that he had good front court players coming into the program. He used the strong second half of Evans senior year as a point of comparison. He thought that Gift would be much more effective without having to play forty minutes.
Take it for what it's worth.
I don't doubt for a second that Lavin would feel that way, but it ultimately depends on Gift. I'm not sure how Gift would fit in with Harvard's style, though. I think there is room for him in our lineup with Amir gone, but how many minutes he gets will depend upon how smoothly Sampson can play SF. I think Jones will split, so there's five guys up front to rotate between three positions. And I guess Hooper will see some duty up there too if he's really 6'5" or 6'6".
Definately 6'5 or 6'6. Was considerably bigger than teammates Tyler Lamb and Keala King at Mater Dei - and both of them are legit 6'4 (Lamb sometimes listed at 6'5).
-
Fwiw, Josh told me last week it was SJU in his opinion.
The City of Basketball Love's Josh Verlin has an interesting note about Jordan and his college announcement in the recap:
–Rysheed Jordan is announcing his college decision on Thursday, and told CoBL tonight that he hadn’t yet decided exactly how he’s going to make the decision. He says he knows which school he’s going to and that he made his decision up last week; the 6-foot-4 point guard has been deciding between Temple, St. John’s and UCLA for several months.
That sounds promising, given the rumors that St. John's is in the lead for the 6'4" slashing playmaker. Also positive? Bruins Nation is already upset about new UCLA coach Steve Alford losing a recruit to Steve Lavin.
Rysheed Jordan makes his official decision tomorrow. Will it be to reporters? Via Twitter? Instagram with a team hat? Smoke signals? We'll find out... sometime tomorrow.
“@ECoastBias: How will Rysheed Jordan broadcast his decision tomorrow? (He doesn't know yet.) #stjbb #uclahoops http://sbn.to/10K16ju (http://sbn.to/10K16ju)”
-
Fwiw, Josh told me last week it was SJU in his opinion.
The City of Basketball Love's Josh Verlin has an interesting note about Jordan and his college announcement in the recap:
–Rysheed Jordan is announcing his college decision on Thursday, and told CoBL tonight that he hadn’t yet decided exactly how he’s going to make the decision. He says he knows which school he’s going to and that he made his decision up last week; the 6-foot-4 point guard has been deciding between Temple, St. John’s and UCLA for several months.
That sounds promising, given the rumors that St. John's is in the lead for the 6'4" slashing playmaker. Also positive? Bruins Nation is already upset about new UCLA coach Steve Alford losing a recruit to Steve Lavin.
Rysheed Jordan makes his official decision tomorrow. Will it be to reporters? Via Twitter? Instagram with a team hat? Smoke signals? We'll find out... sometime tomorrow.
“@ECoastBias: How will Rysheed Jordan broadcast his decision tomorrow? (He doesn't know yet.) #stjbb #uclahoops http://sbn.to/10K16ju (http://sbn.to/10K16ju)”
Assuming Rysheed picks us, I think his recruitment is critical towards building momentum for the next several classes. Some might not admit it, but I was getting concerned that Lavin was losing his luster on the recruiting trail after we lost J. Lawrence, and I was also concerned how the suspension of Harrison would be viewed by recruits who might have empathized (albeit unjustifiably) with Harrison. Given the circumstances, getting Rysheed IMO really establishes Lavin as one of the best closers in college BB recruiting, to the extent there was really any doubt. I might question Lavin's in game coaching moves, but I am nevertheless happy he's the coach of STJ.
-
Quite a showman;
“@sheedjordan: Come celebrate my commitment party this Saturday!!! http://twitter.com/sheedjordan/status/321971978271617024/photo/1 (http://twitter.com/sheedjordan/status/321971978271617024/photo/1)”
-
Quite a showman;
“@sheedjordan: Come celebrate my commitment party this Saturday!!! http://twitter.com/sheedjordan/status/321971978271617024/photo/1 (http://twitter.com/sheedjordan/status/321971978271617024/photo/1)”
If he Dosent choose temple will anyone go?
-
Quite a showman;
“@sheedjordan: Come celebrate my commitment party this Saturday!!! http://twitter.com/sheedjordan/status/321971978271617024/photo/1 (http://twitter.com/sheedjordan/status/321971978271617024/photo/1)”
If he Dosent choose temple will anyone go?
It starts at 10 pm, guess Coach Keady will pass.
-
It's my understanding that his mid-range and three point game leave a lot to be desired. Don't get me wrong, we need this kid. However, our glaring weaknesses are not resolved with this (potential) pick up.
-
SJU79 and anyone else who may have sources....
Has anything changed in last day or so? Still a done deal?
-
It's my understanding that his mid-range and three point game leave a lot to be desired. Don't get me wrong, we need this kid. However, our glaring weaknesses are not resolved with this (potential) pick up.
Not to jump off topic too much but our glaring weaknesses were/are outside shooting, scoring, rebounding and depth. Outside Shooting - Hooper; Scoring - Rysheed/Sanchez; Rebounding - Sanchez/Gift; Depth - Hooper, Sanchez, Gift & Rysheed
-
What are the odds Jordan is one and done?
-
What are the odds Jordan is one and done?
i would say he's at least a 3 year player. apparently needs work on his jumper, plus doesn't appear to be very strong. and given the amount of guards we have, i can't see him getting enough minutes this year to consistently showcase his talents.
-
Im not arrogant enough(that and im 0 for my last 2) enough to think Tierny and Zags both used me as their sources so im assuming they heard what I did which is last week he started telling family he had choosen SJU. Now from what I hear about this kid is, well to put it mildly he has a lot of "swagger" so could he be headfaking everybody for more attention? Sure but its unlikley....I have heard nothing other than SJU from three people this week.
-
It's my understanding that his mid-range and three point game leave a lot to be desired. Don't get me wrong, we need this kid. However, our glaring weaknesses are not resolved with this (potential) pick up.
Not to jump off topic too much but our glaring weaknesses were/are outside shooting, scoring, rebounding and depth. Outside Shooting - Hooper; Scoring - Rysheed/Sanchez; Rebounding - Sanchez/Gift; Depth - Hooper, Sanchez, Gift & Rysheed
I would agree. I also think our shooting woes are a product partly of our guards not penetrating. Dangelo and Marco can hit shots if we had guards getting into the lane and kicking it out. More than anything else it seems like Jordan can drive north to south. Thats his best skil right now and thats huge in my opinion. As Choz said during the NIT, our offense is all about that ball screen up top, but Greene, Branch, and Dangelo aren't maestros at turning the corner around the pick. I think Jordan is the kindve expolsive guard who does.
Gets you kickouts to open shots, and dump offs underneath to your forwards and center.
-
It's my understanding that his mid-range and three point game leave a lot to be desired. Don't get me wrong, we need this kid. However, our glaring weaknesses are not resolved with this (potential) pick up.
Not to jump off topic too much but our glaring weaknesses were/are outside shooting, scoring, rebounding and depth. Outside Shooting - Hooper; Scoring - Rysheed/Sanchez; Rebounding - Sanchez/Gift; Depth - Hooper, Sanchez, Gift & Rysheed
I would agree. I also think our shooting woes are a product partly of our guards not penetrating. Dangelo and Marco can hit shots if we had guards getting into the lane and kicking it out. More than anything else it seems like Jordan can drive north to south. Thats his best skil right now and thats huge in my opinion. As Choz said during the NIT, our offense is all about that ball screen up top, but Greene, Branch, and Dangelo aren't maestros at turning the corner around the pick. I think Jordan is the kindve expolsive guard who does.
Gets you kickouts to open shots, and dump offs underneath to your forwards and center.
Maybe Dlo and Hooper can hit outside shots. Marco missed wide open threes. He needs a great deal of improvement just get in a game.
-
Can see Austin getting plenty of time at PC and contender for ROY;
Game One: A late-arriving Brandon Austin was exactly what Team Philly needed. The Providence-bound senior missed the vast majority of the first half and scored all of his 22 points after intermission to help Team Philly pull away in a 101-77 victory over Yellow Jackets.
Team Philly initially surged out to a 12-point first-half lead thanks to Neumann-Goretti junior Troy Harper, who hit four first-half 3-pointers. Harper would finish with a game-high 23 points, showing off his impressive athleticism with a put-back slam in the second half.
Austin made his first appearance with a minute left in the first half and got rolling as soon as the second period started, scoring the first eight points after Team Philly took just a two-point advantage into halftime. Team Philly opened the second half on a 21-2 run and never let Yellow Jackets within 16 from that point forward.
The Jackets were led by Wissahickson junior Chase Wilson with 22 points and eight rebounds. Hatboro-Horsham senior Zack Quattro finished with 16.
For Team Philly, Haverford School sophomore Sean Lloyd finished with 15 points, five rebounds and three blocks in a strong two-way performance, while Imhotep junior Basil Thompson had nine and 10 rebounds and Trayvond Massenberg had eight points and 12 boards. Vaux senior Rysheed Jordan had an off night, finishing with nine points of his own.
“@jmverlin: Minor @sheedjordan update in last night's #DonofrioClassic recap; plus notes on Pitman's Eric Stafford + more: http://cityofbasketballlove.com/2013/04/donofrio-classic-recap-april-9-2013/ (http://cityofbasketballlove.com/2013/04/donofrio-classic-recap-april-9-2013/)”
-
So that's Thursday as in "tomorrow" instead of April 15, Monday ? Hold on to your seatbelts folks.
-
So that's Thursday as in "tomorrow" instead of April 15, Monday ? Hold on to your seatbelts folks.
And Truman defeated Dewey...LOL!!!
That was announced last week.
-
Im not arrogant enough(that and im 0 for my last 2) enough to think Tierny and Zags both used me as their sources so im assuming they heard what I did which is last week he started telling family he had choosen SJU. Now from what I hear about this kid is, well to put it mildly he has a lot of "swagger" so could he be headfaking everybody for more attention? Sure but its unlikley....I have heard nothing other than SJU from three people this week.
Thanks SJU79. I have hope but my gut is still saying temple.
-
From the man himself;
“@DaveKrupinski: Multiple sources from Philly area have said all signs point to #stjbb for Rysheed Jordan. Huge coup for Steve Lavin and co.”
-
This has been one of the strangest recruiting battles for a top 25 players I can remember. Glad it is coming to an end with us on top
-
This has been one of the strangest recruiting battles for a top 25 players I can remember. Glad it is coming to an end with us on top
Why is it strange? The young man took his time making a decision, weighing his options and waited it out. He had to wait to see how the each of his choice teams' rosters and coaching staffs would shake out. If the rumors are true that he is choosing us, we seem like a great fit for him:
We have a very strong front-court and we need help in the back-court. We have a stable coaching situation. We play in the coolest city in the world, we are in a very good basketball conference and we are going to be front and center on a new sports channel that is broadcast to almost the entire country (Fox at 90mm subs, ESPN at 95mm I believe).
-
Recruitment isn't stranger than Obekpa's...or Jakarr's...or Gathers for that matter. As long as we're in the positive end of things, I'm okay with it. We've had plenty of strange recruitments before. This one is run-of-the-mill in comparison methinks.
-
I just found his final 3 weird. Also found that he strung it out this long and never brought in new suitors weird. The kid screamed Florida or Kansas recruit to me. Just found it strange that more big guys weren't in the mix
-
I just found his final 3 weird. Also found that he strung it out this long and never brought in new suitors weird. The kid screamed Florida or Kansas recruit to me. Just found it strange that more big guys weren't in the mix
Thank god you weren't one of his advisors ;)
-
I just found his final 3 weird. Also found that he strung it out this long and never brought in new suitors weird. The kid screamed Florida or Kansas recruit to me. Just found it strange that more big guys weren't in the mix
Well ucla was... That's big. Lots of these schools filled their needs with the guys they wanted. I think it was a bit of luck as well. His timeline wasnt bad if he really was undecided between the 3. It used to be that many more player's waited for spring signing. Just seems like an anomaly now because so many sign early. Us SJU fans have had to wait out a few tough ones, so it makes it seem even more strange.
-
Im not arrogant enough(that and im 0 for my last 2) enough to think Tierny and Zags both used me as their sources so im assuming they heard what I did which is last week he started telling family he had choosen SJU. Now from what I hear about this kid is, well to put it mildly he has a lot of "swagger" so could he be headfaking everybody for more attention? Sure but its unlikley....I have heard nothing other than SJU from three people this week.
We appreciate your input.
-
any concerns about him qualifying?
-
From the man himself;
“@DaveKrupinski: Multiple sources from Philly area have said all signs point to #stjbb for Rysheed Jordan. Huge coup for Steve Lavin and co.”
UCLA board in a tizzy about Alford possibly losing Rysheed to Lavin & St. J's.
All i did was state that Lavin should never be underestimated, and it was enough for that little prick Nestor to delete it. That dude has skin thinner than Joan Rivers.......
That being said, Rysheed knows where the lights shine brightest - in MSG!
-
"Longtime New York recruiting expert Tom Konchalski saw Jordan play Wednesday night at the Donofrio Classic in Conshohocken, Pa.
“Rysheed Jordan is a tremendous athlete who had a great season this year,” Konchalski told SNY.tv. “Scored a ton of points for Vaux but yesterday he showed a disposition to share the ball and play within the team framework.
“He’s a great athlete. In the past sometimes he’s tried to make everything showtime. For Vaux he has to score a lot of points. He had 45 in the city final against Imhotep. He can really score. He’s not a great shooter, he’s a good shooter. He’s an explosive athlete going to the basket. He has great athletic ability and has a good skill set.
“He could be a major, major factor at St. John’s if he goes there. It would be a major acquisition for them.”
“@AdamZagoria: Jordan Could be ‘Major, Major’ Factor at St. John’s http://zagsblog.com/articles/jordan-could-be-major-major-factor-at-st-johns/ (http://zagsblog.com/articles/jordan-could-be-major-major-factor-at-st-johns/)”
-
From the man himself;
“@DaveKrupinski: Multiple sources from Philly area have said all signs point to #stjbb for Rysheed Jordan. Huge coup for Steve Lavin and co.”
UCLA board in a tizzy about Alford possibly losing Rysheed to Lavin & St. J's.
All i did was state that Lavin should never be underestimated, and it was enough for that little prick Nestor to delete it. That dude has skin thinner than Joan Rivers.......
That being said, Rysheed knows where the lights shine brightest - in MSG!
They are delusional
-
From the man himself;
“@DaveKrupinski: Multiple sources from Philly area have said all signs point to #stjbb for Rysheed Jordan. Huge coup for Steve Lavin and co.”
UCLA board in a tizzy about Alford possibly losing Rysheed to Lavin & St. J's.
All i did was state that Lavin should never be underestimated, and it was enough for that little prick Nestor to delete it. That dude has skin thinner than Joan Rivers.......
That being said, Rysheed knows where the lights shine brightest - in MSG!
Look at this website analysis.
I mean come one. I am not an Alford apologist but cut the guy some slack.
As I stated earlier he accepted the job Easter weekend. He was was not formally introduced until Tuesday 4/2. Meanwhile the recruiting calendar simply allowed him almost no time to recruit or perhaps visit with Jordan in addition to meeting with his current players and recruits and assembling a staff.
Exactly how in the hell was he going to develop a relationship with a kid with just 11 days and 8 of them Dead Period and the other 3 Quiet Period?
http://www.rantsports.com/ncaa-basketball/2013/04/10/ucla-bruins-in-ironic-battle-with-st-johns-for-top-prospect-rysheed-jordan/ (http://www.rantsports.com/ncaa-basketball/2013/04/10/ucla-bruins-in-ironic-battle-with-st-johns-for-top-prospect-rysheed-jordan/)
-
It's my understanding that his mid-range and three point game leave a lot to be desired. Don't get me wrong, we need this kid. However, our glaring weaknesses are not resolved with this (potential) pick up.
Not true
-
Rysheed can shoot. He's not a lights out shooter but he has enough of it to make you respect his shot and make some difficult long range shots. Elite ability to get to the rim and finish. Looks for the pass too and gets others involved. Only deficiencies imo is defensive awareness and rebounding. Both which can be minimized here with Obekpa, Jakarr, Sanchez, and GG protecting the rim and rebounding, plus if we play zone.
-
From the man himself;
“@DaveKrupinski: Multiple sources from Philly area have said all signs point to #stjbb for Rysheed Jordan. Huge coup for Steve Lavin and co.”
UCLA board in a tizzy about Alford possibly losing Rysheed to Lavin & St. J's.
All i did was state that Lavin should never be underestimated, and it was enough for that little prick Nestor to delete it. That dude has skin thinner than Joan Rivers.......
That being said, Rysheed knows where the lights shine brightest - in MSG!
Look at this website analysis.
I mean come one. I am not an Alford apologist but cut the guy some slack.
As I stated earlier he accepted the job Easter weekend. He was was not formally introduced until Tuesday 4/2. Meanwhile the recruiting calendar simply allowed him almost no time to recruit or perhaps visit with Jordan in addition to meeting with his current players and recruits and assembling a staff.
Exactly how in the hell was he going to develop a relationship with a kid with just 11 days and 8 of them Dead Period and the other 3 Quiet Period?
http://www.rantsports.com/ncaa-basketball/2013/04/10/ucla-bruins-in-ironic-battle-with-st-johns-for-top-prospect-rysheed-jordan/ (http://www.rantsports.com/ncaa-basketball/2013/04/10/ucla-bruins-in-ironic-battle-with-st-johns-for-top-prospect-rysheed-jordan/)
Yep, they simply ignored these facts even though someone brought this up. You are dead on.
-
Great news that it seems like we are getting RJ but it is a little like finding out what your Christmas present is before actually unrapping it on Christmas eve or morning when you are a kid. But the main thing is just getting him. A welcome addition and even though we have a deep team coming back it is always nice to bring in new blood and somewhat level out the classes. Also helps us claim to be a young team again next year. :)
-
Rysheed is a good shooter that will only get better. Harrison can be a very good shooter. We need him back. Having a penetrator/passer can only help to create better shots for Harrison and others. Harrison's dip in percentage was due to him taking bad shots and later in the season getting distracted. First half of the season, he had lots of games where he caught fire.
-
From the man himself;
“@DaveKrupinski: Multiple sources from Philly area have said all signs point to #stjbb for Rysheed Jordan. Huge coup for Steve Lavin and co.”
UCLA board in a tizzy about Alford possibly losing Rysheed to Lavin & St. J's.
All i did was state that Lavin should never be underestimated, and it was enough for that little prick Nestor to delete it. That dude has skin thinner than Joan Rivers.......
That being said, Rysheed knows where the lights shine brightest - in MSG!
Look at this website analysis.
I mean come one. I am not an Alford apologist but cut the guy some slack.
As I stated earlier he accepted the job Easter weekend. He was was not formally introduced until Tuesday 4/2. Meanwhile the recruiting calendar simply allowed him almost no time to recruit or perhaps visit with Jordan in addition to meeting with his current players and recruits and assembling a staff.
Exactly how in the hell was he going to develop a relationship with a kid with just 11 days and 8 of them Dead Period and the other 3 Quiet Period?
http://www.rantsports.com/ncaa-basketball/2013/04/10/ucla-bruins-in-ironic-battle-with-st-johns-for-top-prospect-rysheed-jordan/ (http://www.rantsports.com/ncaa-basketball/2013/04/10/ucla-bruins-in-ironic-battle-with-st-johns-for-top-prospect-rysheed-jordan/)
They criticized Howland for not recruiting LA and now are critical of Alford for not getting Sheed from Philly....crazy !
-
And some here say our fans are critical? Nothing compared to ucla fans but guess when you have 11 NCs standards are unrealistic high, especially for today's landscape of tremendous competition from other schools.
-
And some here say our fans are critical? Nothing compared to ucla fans but guess when you have 11 NCs standards are unrealistic high, especially for today's landscape of tremendous competition from other schools.
Yes.
All of us know the brutal reality:
Ohio State hasn't won a title in 53 years;
Georgetown hasn't won a title in 29 years;
Louisville hadn't won a title in 27 years;
Indiana hasn't won a title in 26 years;
Michigan hasn't won a title in 24 years;
UCLA hasn't won a title in 18 years....
It's not so easy.
I'll bet St. J's or UMD wins one before UCLA. Love my teams in red.
-
Ugly Start? Is Steve Alford About to Lose a Key UCLA Recruit to Steve Lavin?
http://www.bruinsnation.com/ucla_recruiting/2013/4/9/4207052/ugly-start-is-steve-alford-about-to-lose-a-key-ucla-recruit-to-steve (http://www.bruinsnation.com/ucla_recruiting/2013/4/9/4207052/ugly-start-is-steve-alford-about-to-lose-a-key-ucla-recruit-to-steve)
Please remove if this has already been posted.
-
And some here say our fans are critical? Nothing compared to ucla fans but guess when you have 11 NCs standards are unrealistic high, especially for today's landscape of tremendous competition from other schools.
Yes.
All of us know the brutal reality:
Ohio State hasn't won a title in 53 years;
Georgetown hasn't won a title in 29 years;
Louisville hadn't won a title in 27 years;
Indiana hasn't won a title in 26 years;
Michigan hasn't won a title in 24 years;
UCLA hasn't won a title in 18 years....
It's not so easy.
I'll bet St. J's or UMD wins one before UCLA. Love my teams in red.
We have never won a NC so that may be an unrealistic prediction.
Can you imagine how the city would rock if St Johns won a chip ?
-
Ugly Start? Is Steve Alford About to Lose a Key UCLA Recruit to Steve Lavin?
http://www.bruinsnation.com/ucla_recruiting/2013/4/9/4207052/ugly-start-is-steve-alford-about-to-lose-a-key-ucla-recruit-to-steve (http://www.bruinsnation.com/ucla_recruiting/2013/4/9/4207052/ugly-start-is-steve-alford-about-to-lose-a-key-ucla-recruit-to-steve)
Please remove if this has already been posted.
They call Lavin a fraud coach.
-
Ugly Start? Is Steve Alford About to Lose a Key UCLA Recruit to Steve Lavin?
http://www.bruinsnation.com/ucla_recruiting/2013/4/9/4207052/ugly-start-is-steve-alford-about-to-lose-a-key-ucla-recruit-to-steve (http://www.bruinsnation.com/ucla_recruiting/2013/4/9/4207052/ugly-start-is-steve-alford-about-to-lose-a-key-ucla-recruit-to-steve)
Please remove if this has already been posted.
They call Lavin a fraud coach.
Lol Lavin is a fraud, but the coach who they just hired, who covered up a rape, and is a conceited elitist, who really has accomplished nothing in his coaching career is fine though. That's funny.
-
Ugly Start? Is Steve Alford About to Lose a Key UCLA Recruit to Steve Lavin?
http://www.bruinsnation.com/ucla_recruiting/2013/4/9/4207052/ugly-start-is-steve-alford-about-to-lose-a-key-ucla-recruit-to-steve (http://www.bruinsnation.com/ucla_recruiting/2013/4/9/4207052/ugly-start-is-steve-alford-about-to-lose-a-key-ucla-recruit-to-steve)
Please remove if this has already been posted.
They call Lavin a fraud coach.
Good to see 10 years has softened their tone.
-
Ugly Start? Is Steve Alford About to Lose a Key UCLA Recruit to Steve Lavin?
http://www.bruinsnation.com/ucla_recruiting/2013/4/9/4207052/
Please remove if this has already been posted.
(http://www.bruinsnation.com/ucla_recruiting/2013/4/9/4207052/ugly-start-is-steve-alford-about-to-lose-a-key-ucla-recruit-to-steve)
They call Lavin a fraud coach.
Here too.
-
Back to Rysheed, there are some signs he might choose temple. Go to his twitter feed and look at his latest pictures about his commitment party.
-
Back to Rysheed, there are some signs he might choose temple. Go to his twitter feed and look at his latest pictures about his commitment party.
May be wise to just wait until tomorrow.
-
Recruitment isn't stranger than Obekpa's...or Jakarr's...or Gathers for that matter. As long as we're in the positive end of things, I'm okay with it. We've had plenty of strange recruitments before. This one is run-of-the-mill in comparison methinks.
The only way this moves into "strange" is if the final decision ISN'T one of SJU, UCLA or Temple. The kid cut his list to 3 what, 4 months ago, and has kept the same three the whole time. Actually , guess that IS strange - a normal recruitment would have had that list grow and shrink multiple times given that much time. :)
-
Ugly Start? Is Steve Alford About to Lose a Key UCLA Recruit to Steve Lavin?
http://www.bruinsnation.com/ucla_recruiting/2013/4/9/4207052/ugly-start-is-steve-alford-about-to-lose-a-key-ucla-recruit-to-steve (http://www.bruinsnation.com/ucla_recruiting/2013/4/9/4207052/ugly-start-is-steve-alford-about-to-lose-a-key-ucla-recruit-to-steve)
Please remove if this has already been posted.
They call Lavin a fraud coach.
As Jim Reeves put it 50 years ago, "Welcome To My World".....
-
He seems to like attention. Maybe he'll pull a surprise tomorrow?
-
Back to Rysheed, there are some signs he might choose temple. Go to his twitter feed and look at his latest pictures about his commitment party.
That's a little concerning, but I seriously doubt with all the word and recruiting experts chiming in that he goes elsewhere.
can anyone remember a botched commitment where basically all the experts had someone pegged going somewhere, and they went elsewhere.
-
Jordan has had his list pared down to Temple, St. John's and UCLA for at least the last two months, but Internet rumors and multiple sources have Jordan leaning toward St. John's as his decision approaches tomorrow. SNY.tv's Adam Zagoria reported Wednesday that Jordan is expected to commit to the Red Storm.
Jordan and his AAU coach, Kamal Yard, could not be reached for comment Wednesday. Two sources OwlScoop.com spoke with Wednesday said Jordan and Temple coach Fran Dunphy have continued to talk throughout the week and indicated that Jordan had not informed the Owls' staff of any decision either way.
St. John's, which is coached by Steve Lavin, finished with a 17-16 record and saw its season end in the NIT with a loss to Virginia. Temple advanced to its sixth consecutive NCAA Tournament, where it lost to No. 1 seed Indiana, 58-52, in the third round.
Jordan lives close to Temple's North Philadelphia campus and attended several games at the Liacouras Center this past season. If he does elect to stay home and commit to Temple, Jordan will have an immediate opportunity to make a big impact with a program that saying goodbye to five players in seniors Khalif Wyatt and Rahlir Hollis-Jefferson and graduate students Jake O'Brien, Scootie Randall and TJ DiLeo.
Temple's 2014 recruiting class currently includes two players in guards Josh Brown and Kyle Green. Brown, a 6-2, 180-pound point guard from New Jersey's St. Anthony High School, is rated by Rivals No. 130 overall in the 2014 class, while the 6-4 Green averaged 20.0 points, 9.0 rebounds and 3.0 assists per game for nearby Camden Catholic High School. Both Brown and Green inked national letters of intent with Temple back in November during the NCAA's early signing period.
Temple has four more available scholarships to offer, and the Owls are said by several sources to be involved with 6-7, 225-pound forward Jaylen Bond, a former star at Plymouth Whitemarsh High School who is transferring from Texas, and Mark Williams, a 6-8, 230-pound forward from Montrose Christian Academy who could be coming in for an official visit to Temple this weekend.
“@OwlScoop_com: @sheedjordan Guard Rysheed Jordan will choose between Temple and St. John's tomorrow. http://temple.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1494025 (http://temple.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1494025)”
-
Back to Rysheed, there are some signs he might choose temple. Go to his twitter feed and look at his latest pictures about his commitment party.
what exactly does the picture say or show?
-
Re above article I posted and contact with Dunphy, isn't this a dead period? Conjecture probably wrong.
-
"Put on For My City", but it's a promotional flyer for a party for him Saturday night.
My question is what HS kid has a party at a bar on a Saturday night from 10pm-2am?
https://twitter.com/sheedjordan/status/321971978271617024/photo/1
-
(http://i.imgur.com/btsjCzu.jpg)
-
"Put on For My City", but it's a promotional flyer for a party for him Saturday night.
My question is what HS kid has a party at a bar on a Saturday night from 10pm-2am?
https://twitter.com/sheedjordan/status/321971978271617024/photo/1
i see. i don't think that means anything. the kid has been pretty consistent in being a very proud kid from Philly. if anything, i think it means he reps Philly no matter where he goes.
-
"Put on For My City", but it's a promotional flyer for a party for him Saturday night.
My question is what HS kid has a party at a bar on a Saturday night from 10pm-2am?
https://twitter.com/sheedjordan/status/321971978271617024/photo/1
i see. i don't think that means anything. the kid has been pretty consistent in being a very proud kid from Philly. if anything, i think it means he reps Philly no matter where he goes.
That's what I think too. If anything it's a tribute to him representing the city while he was in HS. I'm not worried. There's too much smoke for there not to be a fire.
-
Philly Inquirer guy;
“@matt_breen: Sorry Temple fans. According to a source, Rysheed Jordan is leaning towards St. John's http://bit.ly/ZHaOXc (http://bit.ly/ZHaOXc)”
-
What time is he announcing?
-
I hope Lavin spun the fact that he is from Philly being pursued by Temple telling him that he can choose to play for Temple, but he can still represent Philly while here at SJ. His friends and family can easily make the 90 mile trip, and he will get much more press and exposure at SJ in the Big East in a much larger city and stage. I would tell him not going to Temple doesn't mean he can't represent Philly and maybe give examples like Steve Novak being a very prideful Wisconsin guy yet on the Knicks. I don't know, I'm rambling...I hope Lavin's way with words sways him! Everyone reporting SJ is getting him, but remember Obekpa? I won't be comfortable until he chooses us officially and is cleared to play.
-
I would tell him not going to Temple doesn't mean he can't represent Philly and maybe give examples like Steve Novak being a very prideful Wisconsin guy yet on the Knicks.
He stayed in Wisconsin for college though. Probably not the best example.
-
I would tell him not going to Temple doesn't mean he can't represent Philly and maybe give examples like Steve Novak being a very prideful Wisconsin guy yet on the Knicks.
He stayed in Wisconsin for college though. Probably not the best example.
Is Marquette in Wisc.? Didn't know that...but technically he still reps Wisconsin hard in NYC with his discount double check a la Rodgers!
-
What are the chances Lavin has a post-dated signed LOI from him in hand?
-
Is Marquette in Wisc.?
I really need to ask where you thought it was.
-
Is Marquette in Wisc.?
I really need to ask where you thought it was.
Sounds like a town on the eastern part of Suffolk county
And joe obviously hasn't seen Wayne's world
-
Philly Inquirer guy;
“@matt_breen: Sorry Temple fans. According to a source, Rysheed Jordan is leaning towards St. John's http://bit.ly/ZHaOXc (http://bit.ly/ZHaOXc)”
Breen is the reporter who I mentioned who brought up the timeline theory and how it seemed more then just a coincidence that it dovetailed with Lavin and SJU.
-
I hope Lavin spun the fact that he is from Philly being pursued by Temple telling him that he can choose to play for Temple, but he can still represent Philly while here at SJ. His friends and family can easily make the 90 mile trip, and he will get much more press and exposure at SJ in the Big East in a much larger city and stage. I would tell him not going to Temple doesn't mean he can't represent Philly and maybe give examples like Steve Novak being a very prideful Wisconsin guy yet on the Knicks. I don't know, I'm rambling...I hope Lavin's way with words sways him! Everyone reporting SJ is getting him, but remember Obekpa? I won't be comfortable until he chooses us officially and is cleared to play.
I have all the confidence in the world Lavin knows what to tell him. But I also would feel better when I hear him announce SJU tomorrow.
-
The thing that makes me worry is the fact that he's throwing a party in Philly...would this really make sense if he weren't going to Temple? Like others have said...many people would not want to go unless he was going to Temple. On the other hand though, and I always think this with hometown kids being recruited by their local school...why wait so long if he was going to pick Temple? If you love Philly so much and want to stay home wouldn't you cut the BS and just announce it right away? We shall see...crossing my fingers...if we land him I have to give Lavin lots of credit because we were the least likely team for a while to land him.
-
The thing that makes me worry is the fact that he's throwing a party in Philly...would this really make sense if he weren't going to Temple? Like others have said...many people would not want to go unless he was going to Temple. On the other hand though, and I always think this with hometown kids being recruited by their local school...why wait so long if he was going to pick Temple? If you love Philly so much and want to stay home wouldn't you cut the BS and just announce it right away? We shall see...crossing my fingers...if we land him I have to give Lavin lots of credit because we were the least likely team for a while to land him.
Could his party be LeBronesque?
-
Rysheed was just waiting for the scholly to open up.
-
When lavin goes to a game to see a kid, does he talk to the kid? I have no idea about the rules and if you can make contact.
-
The thing that makes me worry is the fact that he's throwing a party in Philly...would this really make sense if he weren't going to Temple? Like others have said...many people would not want to go unless he was going to Temple. On the other hand though, and I always think this with hometown kids being recruited by their local school...why wait so long if he was going to pick Temple? If you love Philly so much and want to stay home wouldn't you cut the BS and just announce it right away? We shall see...crossing my fingers...if we land him I have to give Lavin lots of credit because we were the least likely team for a while to land him.
He's throwing a party in Philly because that's where he lives and that's where his friends and family are. You have to remember this kid is in high school, he doesn't have any income. He's gonna wake up at 6:30 Monday morning and have to go to English class.
-
The thing that makes me worry is the fact that he's throwing a party in Philly...would this really make sense if he weren't going to Temple? Like others have said...many people would not want to go unless he was going to Temple. On the other hand though, and I always think this with hometown kids being recruited by their local school...why wait so long if he was going to pick Temple? If you love Philly so much and want to stay home wouldn't you cut the BS and just announce it right away? We shall see...crossing my fingers...if we land him I have to give Lavin lots of credit because we were the least likely team for a while to land him.
Did J. Lawrence travel to Cincy and have his announcement party there?
Just sit back and relax. Let the kid enjoy his big decision.
-
The thing that makes me worry is the fact that he's throwing a party in Philly...would this really make sense if he weren't going to Temple? Like others have said...many people would not want to go unless he was going to Temple. On the other hand though, and I always think this with hometown kids being recruited by their local school...why wait so long if he was going to pick Temple? If you love Philly so much and want to stay home wouldn't you cut the BS and just announce it right away? We shall see...crossing my fingers...if we land him I have to give Lavin lots of credit because we were the least likely team for a while to land him.
Did J. Lawrence travel to Cincy and have his announcement party there?
Just sit back and relax. Let the kid enjoy his big decision.
Does anyone really have to go to Cincinnati, OH to know how awesome it is?
-
The thing that makes me worry is the fact that he's throwing a party in Philly...would this really make sense if he weren't going to Temple? Like others have said...many people would not want to go unless he was going to Temple. On the other hand though, and I always think this with hometown kids being recruited by their local school...why wait so long if he was going to pick Temple? If you love Philly so much and want to stay home wouldn't you cut the BS and just announce it right away? We shall see...crossing my fingers...if we land him I have to give Lavin lots of credit because we were the least likely team for a while to land him.
Did J. Lawrence travel to Cincy and have his announcement party there?
Just sit back and relax. Let the kid enjoy his big decision.
Does anyone really have to go to Cincinnati, OH to know how awesome it is?
It's even better in person!
-
The thing that makes me worry is the fact that he's throwing a party in Philly...would this really make sense if he weren't going to Temple? Like others have said...many people would not want to go unless he was going to Temple.
Friends and family don't give a rats ass were he decided to go to school. He's going off to college to play D1 ball. They are happy for him and will celebrate his decision with him.
-
I heard it's a huge smoke screen and he's committing to LaSalle.
-
I heard it's a huge smoke screen and he's committing to LaSalle.
Personally been looking forward to Baldi's "It's Iona" post. :D
-
Reggie Rankin @ReggieRankin 1m
BREAKING NEWS: I have spoken with @RysheedJordan he has committed to St. John's It's Official Full Story and Analysis coming @RecruitingESPN
-
Reggie Rankin @ReggieRankin 1m
BREAKING NEWS: I have spoken with @RysheedJordan he has committed to St. John's It's Official Full Story and Analysis coming @RecruitingESPN
Sweet to see the words official. Now lets hear the words fully qualified.
-
Well, this is great news.
-
Nice!
-
Reggie Rankin @ReggieRankin 1m
BREAKING NEWS: I have spoken with @RysheedJordan he has committed to St. John's It's Official Full Story and Analysis coming @RecruitingESPN
That's not Rysheed's twitter. Not saying he couldn't have talked to via phone or text message, but I'd wait until its really coming out of Sheeds mouth.
-
“@ECoastBias: BREAKING: per ESPN, dynamic top-100 guard Rysheed Jordan commits to St. John's #stjbb http://sbn.to/10Pusgo (http://sbn.to/10Pusgo)”
"Assuming he takes classes this summer (and is academically eligible - St. John's fans know that's not always a given!), Jordan should also be eligible to play on St. John's foreign tour (locations TBA) this summer."
"Barring any more transfers, the Red Storm are at a solid 13 players, a full complement; but there is still time for more roster motion on the squad. The Rumble will be keeping an eye out for any new developments."
-
ESPN's list of top 100 2013 recruits already lists Rysheed as committed to STJ as of 4/11/2013
http://espn.go.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/playerrankings/_/order/true (http://espn.go.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/playerrankings/_/order/true)
-
Guess the "hat" doesn't matter. Lol Nice job Lavs and Tony!
What does matter, as noted in Rumble in Garden article above, (if correct) is that he completes academic requirements. Btw, one more roster move soon IMO.
-
Welcome Rysheed! We needed some good news around here
-
HUGE commit for us. The kid is a fantastic player. Fills a huge need which we were struggling with. Physically dominant lead guard.
If there is a roster move it better not be D'Lo. Backcourt could be awesome with those 2.
-
Im gone say this only once so listen up and listen well: witout Tony Chiles, we aint even in the game.
That is all.
-
Chiles deserves much kudos here and overall in general.
-
Im gone say this only once so listen up and listen well: witout Tony Chiles, we aint even in the game.
That is all.
Lavin was smart to hire Chiles. Paired with Lavin they're a great recruiting combo.
-
Agree Choz! I hope Tony is well compensated for his hard work.
-
Welcome sheed!!! Has there or will there be a formal announcement by sheed? Would hate to find out some overly aggressive reporter jumped the gun trying to nail a story and ruined his announcement this only come once in a lifetime for a kid
-
His announcement;
“@rumbleSBN: #stjbb RT @pompeysgridlock: Sources says that @sheedjordan will announce that he's going to St John's this morning on twitter.”
-
Plays next week w good competition;
“@Hoopniks: Derby Festival Basketball Classic adds future Kentucky, Louisville and Indiana players http://fb.me/13JO19nwN (http://fb.me/13JO19nwN)”
-
Welcome sheed!!! Has there or will there be a formal announcement by sheed? Would hate to find out some overly aggressive reporter jumped the gun trying to nail a story and ruined his announcement this only come once in a lifetime for a kid
I agree...
-
“@sheedjordan: IM A JOHNNIE!!!!!!
#ichoosestjohns”
-
“@sheedjordan: IM A JOHNNIE!!!!!!
#ichoosestjohns”
Great News! It's Official for all those conspiracy theorists
-
And with that, I am officially elated. My favorite player we were recruiting and a difference maker for us. Lavin and co strike again. Now hopefully we can get DLo back and have no defections and we are poised for a great year (barring major injuries).
-
Welcome sheed!!! Has there or will there be a formal announcement by sheed? Would hate to find out some overly aggressive reporter jumped the gun trying to nail a story and ruined his announcement this only come once in a lifetime for a kid
I agree...
Don't jinx it. It ain't nothing till it's something.
-
Where's Poison or Foad? Oh, there's positive energy I get it....
-
“@sheedjordan: RED STORM BABY!!!!
#Stjohn”
-
Great news, Sheed is a stud. Just hoping the NCAA doesn't mess with him
-
“@Kieran_Lynch: At No. 22, Jordan is the highest ESPNU ranked recruit of the Lavin era. Pointer was No. 25 in 2011. #stjbb”
-
ok back on track....kid is a stud no doubt and will be an immediate impact player....my understanding is he should be eligible this yr...as mentioned props to Tony...they were smart here in how they recruited this kid..big coup
-
ok back on track....kid is a stud no doubt and will be an immediate impact player....my understanding is he should be eligible this yr...as mentioned props to Tony...they were smart here in how they recruited this kid..big coup
As always thanks for the early inside info '79
-
Nice touch Phil!
“@philgreene31: @sheedjordan welcome 2 the fam my dude. You already kno what it is #stjbb”
-
Nice touch Phil!
“@philgreene31: @sheedjordan welcome 2 the fam my dude. You already kno what it is #stjbb”
Nobody better then Phil - great kid
-
Nice touch Phil!
“@philgreene31: @sheedjordan welcome 2 the fam my dude. You already kno what it is #stjbb”
Nobody better then Phil - great kid
Awesome that it's a family. Killer back-court next year. Killer front-court.
Welcome Rysheed!
-
It's official on RM.com. Yeah love multiple sources. Go Sheed. Welcome aboard. Please get your grades up baby.
-
ok back on track....kid is a stud no doubt and will be an immediate impact player....my understanding is he should be eligible this yr...as mentioned props to Tony...they were smart here in how they recruited this kid..big coup
You nailed it. Thank you for your insights.
-
Huuuuuuuuge get for us! Where are the nay Sayers who doubted lavins recruiting now? I think this was a much more impt pickup than Lawrence would have been. Gonna be great to have an elite pg at the helm and gives us even more depth. Elite guards help teams make deep tourney runs - just look at any of the teams in the dance.
Nice job Steve and welcome RYSHEED. I know there is already a recruiting thread but sheed deserves some serious love "in the jungle" on our main board, right?
-
Great get, great job....very good day!
-
I know there is already a recruiting thread but sheed deserves some serious love "in the jungle" on our main board, right?
No.
-
I know there is already a recruiting thread but sheed deserves some serious love "in the jungle" on our main board, right?
No.
Just No? One word responses from FOAD ? Glory be.
-
I know there is already a recruiting thread but sheed deserves some serious love "in the jungle" on our main board, right?
No.
Just No? One word responses from FOAD ? Glory be.
And only one syllable. You must truly be in heaven.
-
ok back on track....kid is a stud no doubt and will be an immediate impact player....my understanding is he should be eligible this yr...as mentioned props to Tony...they were smart here in how they recruited this kid..big coup
His eligibility should be fine. Tremendous get. A potential 5 star kid this late for this team bringing everyone back is tremendous.
He just needs to understand the school name is St. John's not St. John….LOL!!!!
-
Rivals.com/Alex Kline and scout.com with stories up:
http://scouthoops.scout.com/2/1282698.html (http://scouthoops.scout.com/2/1282698.html)
http://recruitscoop.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1494201 (http://recruitscoop.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1494201)
-
“@franfraschilla: Good get. Tough "opportunity" to pass up! RT @EvanDanielsFOX: Rysheed Jordan is headed to St. John's. Major pick up for Steve Lavin.”
“@BSnowScout: By adding Rysheed Jordan, St. John's on paper is a top 25 type team. Now can the talent translate, that is the question going forward”
-
“@obekpa12: A new warrior has arrived. welcome to the squad @sheedjordan #stjbb #spartans”
-
Isaiah Whitehead @Isaiah_W15 59s
Congrats To My Boy @sheedjordan Committed To St.Johns Today #NYC Show Out 👌
-
Great day for the program and Coach Lav. This makes us a legit Top 25 team for next year if we don't lose anybody.
-
Whoever said he couldn't recruit? That is the thing he does better than anything else. Everyone has the one thing they are best at. For me it is with the ladies. For Lavin it is recruiting. If he couldn't recruit he would be Norm. Or working at McDonald's.
-
Out of curiosity. Jordan is the highest rated recruit since Artest? Or is he ranked even higher than Artest? I understand it is only a ranking and it is relative (I am not saying he is as good as any player). Just interested to know.
-
Per ESPN, he is in the 20's. Wasn't Dom around there too?
-
Per ESPN, he is in the 20's. Wasn't Dom around there too?
I think you are right. Only a number but I think he was a couple of slots ahead of Pointer.
-
“@NYPost_Brazille: Huge get for the Johnnies, landing Rysheed Jordan. Tony Chiles continued to get the job done. #stjbb”
-
Per ESPN, he is in the 20's. Wasn't Dom around there too?
He is a few slots ahead of Dom but Dom was grossly overrated by espn
-
How high was Ingram? Wasn't he top 20...somehow?
-
Welcome aboard Rysheed!
-
Welcome Rysheed. Great get.
-
I know there is already a recruiting thread but sheed deserves some serious love "in the jungle" on our main board, right?
No.
Just No? One word responses from FOAD ? Glory be.
And only one syllable. You must truly be in heaven.
Thanks for staying within my comprehension level.
-
Dom is going to be a stud next year. I think he builds off his strong finish. Welcome Ryseed
-
Great job by the staff and welcome Rysheed!!
It has been said by Dave, Choz and others with some of the "inside" knowledge on this board that Tony Chiles is our most important assistant coach.
-
Great job by the staff and welcome Rysheed!!
It has been said by Dave, Choz and others with some of the "inside" knowledge on this board that Tony Chiles is our most important assistant coach.
Everyone other than PMG seems to love Chiles.
-
This is one of the lead stories on ESPN's men's college hoops page:
http://espn.go.com/college-sports/recruiting/basketball/mens/story/_/id/9159371/rysheed-jordan-commits-st-john-red-storm (http://espn.go.com/college-sports/recruiting/basketball/mens/story/_/id/9159371/rysheed-jordan-commits-st-john-red-storm)
Sheed specifically references Obekpa and Phil in the article.
-
Great job by the staff and welcome Rysheed!!
It has been said by Dave, Choz and others with some of the "inside" knowledge on this board that Tony Chiles is our most important assistant coach.
Everyone other than PMG seems to love Chiles.
He's smart, funny and connects well with kids.
Also has connections up and down the seaboard.
Guy was a tremendous hire.
-
FYI
http://espn.go.com/college-sports/recruiting/basketball/mens/story/_/id/9159371/rysheed-jordan-commits-st-john-red-storm (http://espn.go.com/college-sports/recruiting/basketball/mens/story/_/id/9159371/rysheed-jordan-commits-st-john-red-storm)
From Rysheed:
"I really like their style of play, pick and roll and how coach Lavin lets their guards play," Jordan said of St. John's. "On my visit I also built a great relationship with Chris Obekpa and Phil Greene. I liked New York City, and coach [Steve] Lavin is a great coach, just awesome."
-
Now let's go out and get Sina and Severe….LOL!
-
Now let's go out and get Sina and Severe….LOL!
Did you go to Fordham or "I Told You So University"? Lol
-
Now let's go out and get Sina and Severe….LOL!
Did you go to Fordham or "I Told You So University"? Lol
Both.
As the character Sonny said in A Bronx Tale: "Get two educations kid, one from school and one from the street." :)
-
“@RogRubin: NYDN report on Ryaheed Jordan's choice of St. John's over UCLA and Temple. http://nydn.us/Zp5twE. (http://nydn.us/Zp5twE.) #stjbb”
-
Now let's go out and get Sina and Severe….LOL!
Did you go to Fordham or "I Told You So University"? Lol
Both.
As the character Sonny said in A Bronx Tale: "Get two educations kid, one from school and one from the street." :)
Ha! Do give you credit on this one! Nice!
-
“@RogRubin: NYDN report on Ryaheed Jordan's choice of St. John's over UCLA and Temple. http://nydn.us/Zp5twE. (http://nydn.us/Zp5twE.) #stjbb”
There are so many spelling errors in that piece it is a joke. Phiadelphia. accout. Johnies.
-
Saw the staff out at Iguanas last night and knew they must've been celebrating. I'm incredibly excited for what an explosive player like him could mean for our team.
-
Can't wait for signing day with the presser. Yes !
-
“@RogRubin: NYDN report on Ryaheed Jordan's choice of St. John's over UCLA and Temple. http://nydn.us/Zp5twE. (http://nydn.us/Zp5twE.) #stjbb”
There are so many spelling errors in that piece it is a joke. Phiadelphia. accout. Johnies.
You make it sound like he is a professional writer.
-
Maybe we can get mkras to comment on Rubin…
He is not fighting to get a Pulitzer that's for certain.
-
This is one of the lead stories on ESPN's men's college hoops page:
http://espn.go.com/college-sports/recruiting/basketball/mens/story/_/id/9159371/rysheed-jordan-commits-st-john-red-storm (http://espn.go.com/college-sports/recruiting/basketball/mens/story/_/id/9159371/rysheed-jordan-commits-st-john-red-storm)
Sheed specifically references Obekpa and Phil in the article.
He says SJU needed a PG and he can fill that missing piece. If there is one thing everyone on this board agreed on,which is rare, is we needed another quality PG. Branch may turn out to be very good ,but there are question marks w him and he seems injury prone. Its nice to know we are 2 deep w talent at every position,so foul problems,fatique,or injury isn't overly detrimrntal.
-
Those that have seen him play what player would you compare his game to?
-
Great job by the staff and welcome Rysheed!!
It has been said by Dave, Choz and others with some of the "inside" knowledge on this board that Tony Chiles is our most important assistant coach.
Everyone other than PMG seems to love Chiles.
Coach Lavin is and always will be the most important member of this staff. He is the closer.
If Tony Chiles has the assistant that was leading the effort for Jordan then kudos to him and job well done.
-
Maybe we can get mkras to comment on Rubin…
He is not fighting to get a Pulitzer that's for certain.
Why me?
-
Coach Lavin is and always will be the most important member of this staff. He is the closer.
(http://theagileproductowner.files.wordpress.com/2012/08/captain-obvious.jpg)
-
Huuuuuuuuge get for us! Where are the nay Sayers who doubted lavins recruiting now? I think this was a much more impt pickup than Lawrence would have been. Gonna be great to have an elite pg at the helm and gives us even more depth. Elite guards help teams make deep tourney runs - just look at any of the teams in the dance.
Nice job Steve and welcome RYSHEED. I know there is already a recruiting thread but sheed deserves some serious love "in the jungle" on our main board, right?
Naysayer here. Love the taste of crow feathers with my cereal. Starting to save up for tickets once again. Old habits die hard. Now if we can just have a calm year w/o surprises things will be fine......But this is SJU and Lavin - a volatile combo at best. Anyway, this just about makes up for the loss of DLo. Not the way it was done but talentwise it seems like a wash. I have visions of them playing together and having one of the best back courts out there but it will work out either way. Thank you Steve for renewing some faith in the program.
-
Maybe we can get mkras to comment on Rubin…
He is not fighting to get a Pulitzer that's for certain.
Why me?
I just remember during the 2010 search when Rubin all but declared Paul Hewitt was going to be the next HC at SJU and of course that turned out to be false you basically tore him a new one on RM.com…LOL!!!
I believe you called him a "lying *****************…." LOL!!!
-
Huuuuuuuuge get for us! Where are the nay Sayers who doubted lavins recruiting now? I think this was a much more impt pickup than Lawrence would have been. Gonna be great to have an elite pg at the helm and gives us even more depth. Elite guards help teams make deep tourney runs - just look at any of the teams in the dance.
Nice job Steve and welcome RYSHEED. I know there is already a recruiting thread but sheed deserves some serious love "in the jungle" on our main board, right?
[/quot Not saying he is better then Lawrence . But w the addition of Sanchez ,Jorden is a bigger need. That was our problem in the past, non balanced roster. Now Lavin and Chiles can concentrate on getting us a quality big for 14.
-
Maybe we can get mkras to comment on Rubin…
He is not fighting to get a Pulitzer that's for certain.
Why me?
I just remember during the 2010 search when Rubin all but declared Paul Hewitt was going to be the next HC at SJU and of course that turned out to be false you basically tore him a new one on RM.com…LOL!!!
I believe you called him a "lying *****************…." LOL!!!
Oh yeah - who can remember anything from three years ago, hah :)
-
FYI
http://espn.go.com/college-sports/recruiting/basketball/mens/story/_/id/9159371/rysheed-jordan-commits-st-john-red-storm (http://espn.go.com/college-sports/recruiting/basketball/mens/story/_/id/9159371/rysheed-jordan-commits-st-john-red-storm)
From Rysheed:
"I really like their style of play, pick and roll and how coach Lavin lets their guards play," Jordan said of St. John's.
For those complaining about the offense, doesn't seem to be an issue with Jordan. Like i've said, its about the execution. The oppurtunites are there, the players just have to make the plays. Great get by the staff. Welcome aboard Rysheed!
-
Rysheed gives us the very real chance of having ROY for the third year in a row, albeit in a different BE conference next year, but still, freakin impressive.
-
Maybe we can get mkras to comment on Rubin…
He is not fighting to get a Pulitzer that's for certain.
Why me?
I just remember during the 2010 search when Rubin all but declared Paul Hewitt was going to be the next HC at SJU and of course that turned out to be false you basically tore him a new one on RM.com…LOL!!!
I believe you called him a "lying *****************…." LOL!!!
Oh yeah - who can remember anything from three years ago, hah :)
http://redmen.com/arun1/index.php?option=com_jfusion&Itemid=107&jfile=showthread.php&t=41403 (http://redmen.com/arun1/index.php?option=com_jfusion&Itemid=107&jfile=showthread.php&t=41403)
-
Great job by the staff and welcome Rysheed!!
It has been said by Dave, Choz and others with some of the "inside" knowledge on this board that Tony Chiles is our most important assistant coach.
Everyone other than PMG seems to love Chiles.
Coach Lavin is and always will be the most important member of this staff. He is the closer.
If Tony Chiles has the assistant that was leading the effort for Jordan then kudos to him and job well done.
Don't think he was debating the relative importance of Chiles to Lavin, just praising the job TC has done is all.
-
Here it is Fordham - http://redmen.com/arun1/index.php?option=com_jfusion&Itemid=107&jfile=showthread.php&t=41323 (http://redmen.com/arun1/index.php?option=com_jfusion&Itemid=107&jfile=showthread.php&t=41323)
Another one - http://redmen.com/arun1/index.php?option=com_jfusion&Itemid=107&jfile=showthread.php&t=41303 (http://redmen.com/arun1/index.php?option=com_jfusion&Itemid=107&jfile=showthread.php&t=41303)
-
Maybe we can get mkras to comment on Rubin…
He is not fighting to get a Pulitzer that's for certain.
Why me?
I just remember during the 2010 search when Rubin all but declared Paul Hewitt was going to be the next HC at SJU and of course that turned out to be false you basically tore him a new one on RM.com…LOL!!!
I believe you called him a "lying *****************…." LOL!!!
Oh yeah - who can remember anything from three years ago, hah :)
http://redmen.com/arun1/index.php?option=com_jfusion&Itemid=107&jfile=showthread.php&t=41403 (http://redmen.com/arun1/index.php?option=com_jfusion&Itemid=107&jfile=showthread.php&t=41403)
Now Michael will you or anyone doubt me on my memory again??? LOL!!!
Remember when Baldi said under the Masiello thread that Masiello will be riding to the NCAA's next year and SJU and Lavin will be in the NIT again I said I would remember what he wrote?
Bank on it….LOL!!!
-
Joe 3 will have "willy bump" on 5 stars";
“@ebosshoops: Safe bet that Rysheed Jordan climbs up from his current No. 29 overall spot in 2013 Rivals150 and into five-star status.”
-
After reading the news reports it appears Jordan was a STJ lean all along. Which now makes sense why he waited so long to commit as we didn't have a scholi to give. He must have been assured that one would be made available for him. The business of Big time college basketball, not pretty. Just speculation of course.
-
Joe 3 will have "willy bump" on 5 stars";
“@ebosshoops: Safe bet that Rysheed Jordan climbs up from his current No. 29 overall spot in 2013 Rivals150 and into five-star status.”
A little snippet.
April 11, 2013
Big and physical, Jordan is very quick with the dribble and has significantly improved his jump shooting. His bread and butter is still getting into the lane to score and make things happen, but he's also developed into a fine defender and dangerous transition finisher.
Given his overall tools and the way he has played as a senior, Jordan is likely going to make a move up in the final 2013 rankings and be elevated from four to five-star status.
-
SJU is perfect for him.
They will have the athletes to compete and compliment him and will continue to recruit better players and he will love the style of play.
Also the location is perfect. He gets away from Philly which I think he wanted to do but at the same time is close enough that his family will be able to see him play all the time.
Think about it. In addition to the all the NYC games just 1 1/2-2 hours away SJU will play games at Newark-SHU, at Villanova (his hometown of Philly) and at Georgetown (couple hours south in DC).
-
Good points Fordham
-
i am happy but just get him eligible. st. john's is now a pre season top 25 team in d'angelo comes back
-
Those that have seen him play what player would you compare his game to?
A little tyshawn taylor in him.
-
Those that have seen him play what player would you compare his game to?
A little tyshawn taylor in him.
That is the name I keep using
-
“@jeffborzello: With Rysheed Jordan in the fold, St. John's could have the pieces to make a run to the NCAA tournament next season: http://cbsprt.co/11ZEfBL (http://cbsprt.co/11ZEfBL)”
-
i am happy but just get him eligible. st. john's is now a pre season top 25 team in d'angelo comes back
I hear this being brought up...Are there any issues with his eligibility or is this being stated due to our recent track record?
-
Those that have seen him play what player would you compare his game to?
A little tyshawn taylor in him.
Thank you
-
anyone?
“@ReggieRankin: Jordan propels St. John's into contention http://m.espn.go.com/general/blogs/blogpost?blogname=mens-college-basketballrumors&i=TWT&id=3292&w=1csaq&src=desktop (http://m.espn.go.com/general/blogs/blogpost?blogname=mens-college-basketballrumors&i=TWT&id=3292&w=1csaq&src=desktop)”
-
Nothing else to say other than, good work Lavin! He has reaffirmed his reputation (for me anyway) of being a master recruiter. Getting these great late pickups really makes him THE closer! Mariano Lavin anyone?
If anyone wants a good laugh, get some popcorn and peruse the Bruin/Owls boards. Funny how UCLA fans act like Lavin is some bum and he just stole their prized recruit after being fired there hah! Man that has to sting like salt on an open wound. Now let's just pray Harrison stays.
By the way, the poor kid is getting HAMMERED on twitter (not that it wasn't expected). He is even tweeting things like "So you try to put salt on my name like a slug?" and "Some of you Temple fans aren't even from Philly!". He seems so excited to be part of the SJ family...can't wait to see him play.
-
anyone?
“@ReggieRankin: Jordan propels St. John's into contention http://m.espn.go.com/general/blogs/blogpost?blogname=mens-college-basketballrumors&i=TWT&id=3292&w=1csaq&src=desktop (http://m.espn.go.com/general/blogs/blogpost?blogname=mens-college-basketballrumors&i=TWT&id=3292&w=1csaq&src=desktop)”
Five-star point guard Rysheed Jordan (Philadelphia/Vaux), ranked No. 22 in the class of 2013, committed to St. John's this morning. The commitment is a massive pick-up for Steve Lavin and company, especially given that UCLA and Temple were thought to be ahead in the race as recently as two-and-a-half weeks ago.
Because the Red Storm return all their major contributors, scholarships were scarce. To land Jordan with one of them is very impressive and speaks to the job Lavin is doing on the recruiting trail. Juniors will make up most of a team that will be expected to make the NCAA tournament next year but Jordan will greatly help the cause. The Philadelphia native can compete for a starting spot immediately and become a floor leader in his first year. St. John's is in good position to compete near the top of the new Big East in 2013-14.
-
anyone?
“@ReggieRankin: Jordan propels St. John's into contention http://m.espn.go.com/general/blogs/blogpost?blogname=mens-college-basketballrumors&i=TWT&id=3292&w=1csaq&src=desktop (http://m.espn.go.com/general/blogs/blogpost?blogname=mens-college-basketballrumors&i=TWT&id=3292&w=1csaq&src=desktop)”
Five-star point guard Rysheed Jordan (Philadelphia/Vaux), ranked No. 22 in the class of 2013, committed to St. John's this morning. The commitment is a massive pick-up for Steve Lavin and company, especially given that UCLA and Temple were thought to be ahead in the race as recently as two-and-a-half weeks ago.
Because the Red Storm return all their major contributors, scholarships were scarce. To land Jordan with one of them is very impressive and speaks to the job Lavin is doing on the recruiting trail. Juniors will make up most of a team that will be expected to make the NCAA tournament next year but Jordan will greatly help the cause. The Philadelphia native can compete for a starting spot immediately and become a floor leader in his first year. St. John's is in good position to compete near the top of the new Big East in 2013-14.
Thx Mike!
-
“@jeffborzello: With Rysheed Jordan in the fold, St. John's could have the pieces to make a run to the NCAA tournament next season: http://cbsprt.co/11ZEfBL (http://cbsprt.co/11ZEfBL)”
Make a run at?
No make a run in…
Seriously no way with this type of returning talent and with Jordan on board should this team be anything but an NCAA team with thoughts of winning multiple games in the Tourney.
With Jordan, Harrison, Branch, Pointer, Sanchez, Obekpa and Sampson this is the most talent an SJU team has had since those first 2 Jarvis teams.
-
“@JonRothstein: Rysheed Jordan is an impact recruit for Steve Lavin + St. John's. Very similar to Tyshawn Taylor but more of a PG. Explosive scorer.”
-
Another aspect of Rysheed signing with us is that it continues to build the reputation of STJ being a destination program for top recruits. Sampson last year, Moe the year b4 that, now Jordan. Recruits notice who they will be playing with and top recruits want to play with other top players. This program is in good hands.
-
Another aspect of Rysheed signing with us is that it continues to build the reputation of STJ being a destination program for top recruits. Sampson last year, Moe the year b4 that, now Jordan. Recruits notice who they will be playing with and top recruits want to play with other top players. This program is in good hands.
Agreed! Lavin is helping to restore the losing culture here. He is making it somewhat "normal" for 4 and 5 star kids to strongly consider and sometimes sign at SJ. Don't discount the value of that. People notice SJ a lot more in the major headlines with moves like these including possible future recruits. He said "they need a PG there" referring to us, so I'm sure Lavin told him he will have the opportunity to be a major scoring threat from day 1. If Harrison comes back which he should, the only thing that can slow us down is more bad luck i.e. Jordan doesn't qualify or major injuries. God forbid...we are WAY overdue for a great year where everything goes right for a change. Let's hope that's next year.
-
http://instagram.com/p/X-P3X2OYA0/ (http://instagram.com/p/X-P3X2OYA0/)
-
“@JonRothstein: Rysheed Jordan is an impact recruit for Steve Lavin + St. John's. Very similar to Tyshawn Taylor but more of a PG. Explosive scorer.”
Seal of Approval from Uncle Jon.
-
“@DickieV: A great get 4 Steve Lavin- recruiting gems like this creates excitement 4 a program . @LennRobbins @DaveTelep http://espn.go.com/college-sports/recruiting/basketball/mens/story/_/id/9159371/rysheed-jordan-commits-st-john-red-storm (http://espn.go.com/college-sports/recruiting/basketball/mens/story/_/id/9159371/rysheed-jordan-commits-st-john-red-storm)”
-
Is there any concern he may not become eligible this summer? How close is he to qualifying?
-
Another aspect of Rysheed signing with us is that it continues to build the reputation of STJ being a destination program for top recruits. Sampson last year, Moe the year b4 that, now Jordan. Recruits notice who they will be playing with and top recruits want to play with other top players. This program is in good hands.
Don't forget Pelle even though he never suited up. He was in some rankings as high as Top 20
-
Saw something funny on the Temple board. Someone started a thread that they called the official Rysheed Jordan picks St. Johns meltdown thread. We could definitely use a thread like that when we miss out on a recruit.
-
http://instagram.com/p/X-P3X2OYA0/ (http://instagram.com/p/X-P3X2OYA0/)
Good thing I bought that Sheed Jordan jersey 2 years ago (Moe to Christian Jones to Sheed) lol
-
He just tweeted a pic of MSG saying "My new home!". You can't tell me MSG doesn't still act as a major lure for recruits. I remember someone on ESPN New York wrote an article saying it's losing its luster with younger players. Well, he's dead wrong!
-
Welcome Rysheed!!!"
-
Best news since Jakar recommited last year !
-
“@JonRothstein: Rysheed Jordan is an impact recruit for Steve Lavin + St. John's. Very similar to Tyshawn Taylor but more of a PG. Explosive scorer.”
Right-explosive scorer-avg 25-26 pts per game yet NYDN's Roger Rubin's said he is not thought of as a scorer? What's up with that. Very happy to secure his services but he's no Geno! :)
-
Saw something funny on the Temple board. Someone started a thread that they called the official Rysheed Jordan picks St. Johns meltdown thread. We could definitely use a thread like that when we miss out on a recruit.
Go read the nuts on the bruin blog
-
“@NYPost_Brazille: Kamal Yard on Jordan: “He’s definitely the missing piece. They needed somebody to penetrate and get to the lane; that’s what he does best.”
-
“@NYPost_Brazille: Kamal Yard on Jordan: “He’s definitely the missing piece. They needed somebody to penetrate and get to the lane; that’s what he does best.”
Hammer meet nail..
-
“@Kieran_Lynch: Kamal Yard, the director of Philly Pride AAU, said that to his knowledge, Jordan will be taking classes at St. John's this summer. #stjbb”
-
“@Kieran_Lynch: Kamal Yard, the director of Philly Pride AAU, said that to his knowledge, Jordan will be taking classes at St. John's this summer. #stjbb”
Thats standard practice right?
-
Great job by Lavin and Chiles. No debating Jordan has a world of talent. Hoping he brings a strong work ethic and the right attitude to help get us back to the big dance next season.
-
seems to have the exaggerated wrist snap like Reggie Miller.
Rysheed Jordan 45 Point Championship Performance (Broke Wilt Chamberlains Record) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwuisuJJo1Y#ws)
-
“@Kieran_Lynch: Kamal Yard, the director of Philly Pride AAU, said that to his knowledge, Jordan will be taking classes at St. John's this summer. #stjbb”
Thats standard practice right?
Yes
-
Get 2 The Game - Rysheed Jordan | @AmFam® (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipQRlz0PAew#ws)
-
“@Kieran_Lynch: Kamal Yard, the director of Philly Pride AAU, said that to his knowledge, Jordan will be taking classes at St. John's this summer. #stjbb”
Thats standard practice right?
Yes
Yes it is not required to be qualified. In other words as long as he is qualifed coming out of high school (which I am told is not an issue with him) he doesn't necessarily need to go to summer school to enroll in the fall. Summer school is primarily used to get ahead for the coming school year because of the time they miss in class during the school year.
Also enrolling during the summer allows you to work out on campus and with your teammates. Obviously if you don't enroll during the summer you cannot participate in things on campus. And more importantly since the team plans on travelling overseas being enrolled during the summer is a prerequisite to participating in this activity.
-
“@Kieran_Lynch: Kamal Yard, the director of Philly Pride AAU, said that to his knowledge, Jordan will be taking classes at St. John's this summer. #stjbb”
Thats standard practice right?
Yes
Yes it is not required to be qualified. In other words as long as he is qualifed coming out of high school (which I am told is not an issue with him) he doesn't necessarily need to go to summer school to enroll in the fall. Summer school is primarily used to get ahead for the coming school year because of the time they miss in class during the school year.
Also enrolling during the summer allows you to work out on campus and with your teammates. Obviously if you don't enroll during the summer you cannot participate in things on campus. And more importantly since the team plans on travelling overseas being enrolled during the summer is a prerequisite to participating in this activity.
Awesome that is what I thought. Thanks guys!
-
[ ....]Everyone has the one thing they are best at. For me it is with the ladies.
Awesome stuff 8) Nominee for post of the year right there
-
Eric Bossi on the Rivals Board earlier today:
"People should care. Jordan could end up being a great pickup for St. John's. I'm interested to see how they look next year. THere will be no shortage of weapons, they will be very athletic and they will have multiple NBA potential talents. I've got to think at least a Sweet 16 is reasonable expectation of the Red Storm.
Really a huge fan of Jordan. I've always been high on him but felt I had to drop him some after summer because he didn't perform like I'd hoped he would. Looking back, my expectations were possibly a little high and I might have let others knocking him play into my thought process a little too much. Either way, saw him again this winter and loved him. Also looking at what he did, hard not to like him. He's big, he's athletic, he's versatile and he can be a great defender. He's the one guy during the summer that Andrew Harrison was not able to push around."
-
“@QSTJHoops: Just got off the phone with the director of Rysheed Jordan's AAU director. #stjbb”
“@QSTJHoops: Jordan's AAU director: Lavin and Chiles recruited Rysheed hard from the start; relationship with current #stjbb players a huge factor.”
“@QSTJHoops: Jordan's AAU director: Rysheed loves #stjbb's up-tempo style of play and feels that it was the best fit for his game.”
“@QSTJHoops: Jordan's AAU director: Rysheed loves Temple, but wanted to move away "to grow up." #STJBB a good compromise being only two hours from home.”
“@QSTJHoops: Jordan's AAU director: Coaching change at UCLA was a factor because of uncertainty and would have had to develop relationship with Alford.”
-
“@QSTJHoops: Compared Rysheed with Russell Westbrook - maybe even a "better play maker." Could be one of best guards #stjbb has ever seen.”
“@QSTJHoops: Jordan's AAU director: Rysheed is a phenomenal kid - old school morals, stickler for family, yet with tough/inner-city mentality. #stjbb”
“@QSTJHoops: Jordan's AAU director described Rysheed as the type of player whose weaknesses today can easily become strengths three months ahead. #stjbb”
“@QSTJHoops: #STJBB fans want to know if Jordan can shoot. Shot 40% from 3PT this season, including a game in which he made eight. Much improved.”
-
“@QSTJHoops: One more from Jordan's AAU director: Guarantees that Rysheed will provide Harrison, Greene, Sampson, etc. with "cleaner looks." #stjbb”
-
"A year ago Steve Lavin pulled off an 11th hour recruiting coup when he landed spring commitments from Jakarr Sampson and Chris Obekpa. Sampson went on to win Freshman of the Year honors in the Big East while Obekpa led the conference in blocked shots.
Thursday, Lavin was at it again, landing a huge spring commitment from Rysheed Jordan, the No. 22 player in the ESPN 100, who picked St. John's over Temple and UCLA.
Jordan becomes the first player to commit to Lavin in the class of 2013 and has a chance to follow in the footsteps of Sampson and Moe Harkless and become the third straight St. John's product to earn Big East Rookie of the Year honors.
Here's a look at how Jordan might impact the Johnnies next season and beyond.
Rysheed Jordan
Point guard
2013
Committed: St. John's Pos Rk Stars Grade Hometown
NR Philadelphia, PA
Opportunity
St. John's went with a three-guard starting unit for the majority of the second half of the season in Jamal Branch, Phil Greene IV, and D'Angelo Harrison. With all three players set to return next season, Jordan will have to beat out an incumbent starter if he hopes to play with the first five. He may be best utilized off the bench where his size and superior athleticism would allow him the versatility to potentially spell any of the three perimeter positions. Whether he starts or comes off the bench, look for Lavin to go with small and athletic lineups through most of the season and essentially split time in his three-guard line-up between the foursome, while finding some additional minutes for Felix Balamou.
Defensively
Jordan has all the tools to be a great defender. He's long and quick, has instincts to anticipate plays away from the ball and the athleticism to erase mistakes. While those physical tools are ideal for any defensive system, they're exactly the skill set for what St. John's looks for on the perimeter. Lavin continues to rely on the match-up zone defense that was the brainchild of his former associate head coach, Mike Dunlap, who left last year to take the reins of the Charlotte Bobcats. Because the defense demands maximum ball pressure while extending well beyond the 3-point line, it also requires explosive rotations on the weak-side of the floor. Length and athleticism are requisites in order to make those rotations while also preventing straight-line passes, generating deflections and jumping into passing lanes.
Offensively
When it's at its best, St. John's is a team that creates offense from its defense, as the Storm are as aggressive in the open floor as almost any program in the Big East. That's an area of the game where Jordan excels because he's simply too explosive to be contained when allowed to get a head of steam with the basketball. While he's used to playing with the ball in his hands, playing alongside the likes of Branch and Greene should enable him to also get out and fill lanes on the break. That's likely to be a little bit of an adjustment as he'll have to learn when to look for the outlet and when to run ahead of the ball, but once he understands those nuances he'll be especially versatile in the open floor.
Upside
Based on his obvious talent and fit into St. John's style of play, Jordan should be very capable of making an immediate impact next season. But one of the most intriguing things about Jordan is that he's just beginning to scratch the surface of his potential. He's made consistent strides with his game in the last year and certainly become more of a true point guard along the way. He's still got to polish his jump shot from the 3-point line and learn how to play without the ball at times, but what has the potential to truly set him apart is his combination of explosiveness and size at the point guard position. As he learns to efficiently utilize those tools, and continues to build his skills up along the way, he's a guy who should be able to eventually facilitate by playing in pick-and-roll situations, scoring (or passing) over opposing defenders from the midrange area, or even taking smaller guards down to the low post." (Adam Finkelstein, ESPN)
-
The above was an insider article on ESPN, I see Rysheed starting from the beginning. Too talented and works to hard to start on the bench.
-
Thanks for the quotes guys!
-
from watching all the videos, he looks big, and built.
Looks like one to initiate contact with the strength to finish.
hoping this huge step forward isn't followed by 2 steps back.
Also, for all of those Norm vs. Lavin arguments - D'Lo, Rysheed, Sampson, Branch, Pointer, Obekpa.
6 Top 100 players on our roster
-
apparently he's on ESPNU now.
-
apparently he's on ESPNU now.
Of course it is blacked out on espn3
-
I saw it. He actually wasnt on the show but they talked about him for about two minutes and how St. John's should be dangerous next year. Biancardi gave shoutouts to the potential awesome backcourt of Greene, Jordan, Branch, and Harrison.
-
http://instagram.com/p/X-P3X2OYA0/ (http://instagram.com/p/X-P3X2OYA0/)
Good thing I bought that Sheed Jordan jersey 2 years ago (Moe to Christian Jones to Sheed) lol
Sheed will probably request his number to be #23 (like HS). I would think Lipscomb wouldn't mind.
I'm looking forward to seeing him in a St. John's uni no matter which number he wears!
-
Wow. I'm loving this! Thank you Coach Lavin and special thanks to Coach Chiles for not only being the primary on Jordan but also planting seeds for the future while we celebrate this huge addition.
I think Sheed fills some big voids and adds excellent depth to the back court, but let's be reasonable with the expectations we heap on him--at least to start with! The kid will be competing for minutes with juniors that have the two years of college conditioning and big time minutes played--along with the experience and learning that goes with them.
Frosh often struggle with defense, the speed and physicality of the college game, and little things like having a defender set and waiting to draw a charge when they recklessly drive the lane. He'll need some time to work that out, but man are stacked at the guard spots.
-
I would judge "most talented teams" by the number of first round NBA draft picks on the roster. For example, the 1985 team had 4 first round draft picks on that team; Mullin, Berry, Wennington and Jackson.
The 1999, 2000 teams had two first round picks; Artest and Barkley.
The 2014 team, start with JaKarr, Obekpa could be, Sanchez could be, Jordan could be and Dom could be. Time will tell.
-
I would judge "most talented teams" by the number of first round NBA draft picks on the roster. For example, the 1985 team had 4 first round draft picks on that team; Mullin, Berry, Wennington and Jackson.
The 1999, 2000 teams had two first round picks; Artest and Barkley.
The 2014 team, start with JaKarr, Obekpa could be, Sanchez could be, Jordan could be and Dom could be. Time will tell.
Idk. Look at this Louisville team. They probably only have one first rounder and they were extemely talented.
-
Word is he is a good student in the class room, and there haven't been any reports i've seen regarding his ability to get eligible.
I'm just glad we got a kid who is rising, as in, playing well and just won his state title, instead of a guy like Jermaine who just sat out more or less the entire season with an ongoing wrist issue.
Not saying I wouldn't want Jermaine, but there doesn't seem to be many question marks surrounding Rysheed.
-
I was upset we didn't get Lawrence, but Jordan fills the much greater need in my opinion if he can handle PG duties. Even without Garrett, we are deep at the 3/4, and many teams play three guards anyway on a fairly regular basis. If Jordan can play the point, it gives us two really good options. And it allows both Greene and D-Lo to play off-the-ball, where they are both better suited IMO.
-
Lets have a basketball league of the 1985 team, Final 4; the 1991 team, Elite 8; the 2000 team, Elite 8; the 2011 team, 9 seniors made NCAA; and the 2014 team. Who is the best team and who is the most talented?
-
Jermaine can enjoy scenic Cincinnati and the great new AAC. Sanchez every bit as good of a fit and more ready to contribute at this level. Lavin will find a new and improved Jermaine for 2014.
-
Jermaine can enjoy scenic Cincinnati and the great new AAC. Sanchez every bit as good of a fit and more ready to contribute at this level. Lavin will find a new and improved Jermaine for 2014.
Something fishy there.
-
Will Jordan be playing in the Jordan game?
-
Will Jordan be playing in the Jordan game?
No
-
It's obvious to me that all along this recruitment Jordan wanted to comehere to join forces with Sir Dom.
Paultzman and all - great job with all the info. It's nice to see the fan base feeling good.
-
It's obvious to me that all along this recruitment Jordan wanted to comehere to join forces with Sir Dom.
Paultzman and all - great job with all the info. It's nice to see the fan base feeling good.
What makes you say that?
-
Before people jump on me, A) I know highlight tapes only show the good plays and B) He is not known for this, but...I feel many people are undermining his shooting ability. From what I've seen he easily has THE smoothest stroke out of anyone on the team. Jakarr has a weird shot, even Harrison is a bit awkward with it. Jordan has a nice easy motion and that bodes well in the same way MLB teams like pitchers with smooth effortless motions. It's good for consistency and durability. I saw someone else post a stat saying he hit 40% from 3...that speaks for itself. The kid can definitely shoot AND penetrate, scoring with contact. Missing piece indeed. He also seems totally dedicated to the team already bonding with teammates and has his own series on youtube about his progress in hoops. Can't quite put my finger on it, but something tells me this kid is special. I just get that feeling that he was the missing piece, and now we can really ball big time. Just pray Harrison stays and no one notable transfers.
-
Before people jump on me, A) I know highlight tapes only show the good plays and B) He is not known for this, but...I feel many people are undermining his shooting ability. From what I've seen he easily has THE smoothest stroke out of anyone on the team. Jakarr has a weird shot, even Harrison is a bit awkward with it. Jordan has a nice easy motion and that bodes well in the same way MLB teams like pitchers with smooth effortless motions. It's good for consistency and durability. I saw someone else post a stat saying he hit 40% from 3...that speaks for itself. The kid can definitely shoot AND penetrate, scoring with contact. Missing piece indeed. He also seems totally dedicated to the team already bonding with teammates and has his own series on youtube about his progress in hoops. Can't quite put my finger on it, but something tells me this kid is special. I just get that feeling that he was the missing piece, and now we can really ball big time. Just pray Harrison stays and no one notable transfers.
I like his stroke as well. His elevation and release remind me of Russell Westbrookes.
-
Completely agree. I think Rysheed is a special talent. Scary part is that if he had more time he would have been ranked even higher. There is no doubt in my mind that we will have our third consecutive rookie of the year if he takes the court this fall. If all goes accordingly we should be ranked in the preseason top 25. If everyone comes back, we will sneak up on people like MIAMI did this past season.
-
and thanks to Amir for making this all possible
-
If you guys want to watch some of his games:
http://www.youtube.com/playlist?annotation_id=annotation_57264&feature=iv&list=PLA6u1EbAQhDUx9db3rNM8Wop7zZy7mvAT&src_vid=syVaIvEb0XE (http://www.youtube.com/playlist?annotation_id=annotation_57264&feature=iv&list=PLA6u1EbAQhDUx9db3rNM8Wop7zZy7mvAT&src_vid=syVaIvEb0XE)
http://www.youtube.com/playlist?annotation_id=annotation_19925&feature=iv&list=PLA6u1EbAQhDWpqoggZxOJaUV_p5kYbCHR&src_vid=CLgOYulGXfA (http://www.youtube.com/playlist?annotation_id=annotation_19925&feature=iv&list=PLA6u1EbAQhDWpqoggZxOJaUV_p5kYbCHR&src_vid=CLgOYulGXfA)
Vaux HS 78 Comm. Tech 67 PPL Basketball (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_AcSLtexviU#)
Vaux 62 MCS 61 PPL Class A Boys Championship (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_aL28KK4-k#)
Vaux 71 ML King 68 PPL Semi-Finals (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Wn116AfXq4#)
Imhotep 67 Vaux 66 PPL 2013 Boys Championship (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxeeT8f4ysA#)
-
Before people jump on me, A) I know highlight tapes only show the good plays and B) He is not known for this, but...I feel many people are undermining his shooting ability. From what I've seen he easily has THE smoothest stroke out of anyone on the team. Jakarr has a weird shot, even Harrison is a bit awkward with it. Jordan has a nice easy motion and that bodes well in the same way MLB teams like pitchers with smooth effortless motions. It's good for consistency and durability. I saw someone else post a stat saying he hit 40% from 3...that speaks for itself. The kid can definitely shoot AND penetrate, scoring with contact. Missing piece indeed. He also seems totally dedicated to the team already bonding with teammates and has his own series on youtube about his progress in hoops. Can't quite put my finger on it, but something tells me this kid is special. I just get that feeling that he was the missing piece, and now we can really ball big time. Just pray Harrison stays and no one notable transfers.
Agree completely. He needs to improve on his awareness on both sides but he is as ready as a high school player can be imo.
-
Lets have a basketball league of the 1985 team, Final 4; the 1991 team, Elite 8; the 2000 team, Elite 8; the 2011 team, 9 seniors made NCAA; and the 2014 team. Who is the best team and who is the most talented?
'85 best and most talented
-
Completely agree. I think Rysheed is a special talent. Scary part is that if he had more time he would have been ranked even higher. There is no doubt in my mind that we will have our third consecutive rookie of the year if he takes the court this fall. If all goes accordingly we should be ranked in the preseason top 25. If everyone comes back, we will sneak up on people like MIAMI did this past season.
We wont be preseason top 25 because people do not know how good Sanchez is. They dont know who Sanchez is. But a good start and a win against Cuse in december will get us some attention definitely
-
Great get.
-
http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/high_school/pennsylvania/20130412_St__John_s-bound_Rysheed_Jordan_shows_local_fans_what_they_ll_miss.html (http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/high_school/pennsylvania/20130412_St__John_s-bound_Rysheed_Jordan_shows_local_fans_what_they_ll_miss.html)
"He also hit a couple of NBA three-pointers. (There can't be any Owls fans still reading by now.)"
NBA 3's, known for his passing ability, unselfish, 33 Pts and just rave reviews. Described as a "cerebral" player and a "definite pro". This kid really has the makings of something special. Doesn't feel like any recruit we have had in a while. If we can get him to hit 35%+ from 3, penetrate, and pass, this kid is going to be a monster folks.
Also Jordan's family was reportedly very upset with something negative printed in the Inquirer...not sure what exactly it was though because they did not refer to specifics. Philly always was a trash sports town and they are not helping that stereotype now. Here at SJ we are pissed when we lose guys like Lawrence and McCullough but you never see our fans attacking them via Twitter and having nasty things written in papers. Remember, this is the same city where a 40 yr old Phillies fan intentionally threw up on a 13 yr old girl at Citizen's Bank Park and booed Santa at an Eagles game.
-
Just saw that Rysheed changed his twitter name from "black jesus" to "the prince". Wonder if St. John's had anything to do with that lol.
-
Just saw that Rysheed changed his twitter name from "black jesus" to "the prince". Wonder if St. John's had anything to do with that lol.
I noticed too lol...smart move before it really gained traction.
-
The one aspect of his game that isn't mentioned much but I know TC is excited about is how physical he is. Very hard through screens and finishes so strongly.
-
79, 79.
-
The one aspect of his game that isn't mentioned much but I know TC is excited about is how physical he is. Very hard through screens and finishes so strongly.
Great point. Additionally folks in the know, like Tom Konchalski and Philly hoops gurus, point to his maturation. They note he increasingly sees the importance of distributing ball and giving teammates easy scoring opportunities. As he continues to refine his stroke, he will really have a complete game. Psyched!
-
RecruitingNation: Jordan to St. John's (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ci-8yFUfMPU#ws)
-
Newsday: http://www.newsday.com/sports/college/on-campus-1.812060/rysheed-jordan-commit-is-big-st-john-s-win-1.5057049 (http://www.newsday.com/sports/college/on-campus-1.812060/rysheed-jordan-commit-is-big-st-john-s-win-1.5057049)
NYPost:
http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/college/basketball/st_john_snags_elite_philly_pg_ZatgNZZgV1i11rmmK6R1uL?utm_medium=rss&utm_content=Basketball (http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/college/basketball/st_john_snags_elite_philly_pg_ZatgNZZgV1i11rmmK6R1uL?utm_medium=rss&utm_content=Basketball)
By the way...Sheed just changed his twitter background image to the good ol' SJ logo. I love how excited this kid is to come play for us! Really builds our brand too among higher recruits. Phil Greene tweeted that he should come up soon with the team and Sampson was welcoming him. With the exception of Harrison this team has some great chemistry and they really seem like friends off the court. This is why college basketball is so great...it's about the college family, not about money.
More quotes:
"I am looking forward to taking the next steps as a basketball player and in continuing my education at St. John's University," Jordan added. "New York City has great energy and the Garden is a place everyone dreams of playing."
Kamal Yard, Jordan’s travel team director with the Philly Pride AAU team, told the Torch that he is “a tough hombre,” who “doesn’t mind getting dirty.”
-
Some kids are just talented. This kid is a physical specimen with not only the talent, but the motor as well. Not a kid that takes plays off. Very excited about this. Fwiw, Philly is a great region for us to recruit from for all sports. Lacrosse team recruits very heavily from Philly area as lots of Philly kids love playing in NY which is close to home, but still "away" for them. Seems like some of the same facts applied here. Great job by Lavin and Chiles here.
We will have two very good PG's in Jordan and Branch which bodes well for us next season.
-
RYSHEED JORDAN DOUBLE CROSSOVER DUNK (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogW7tr81Yxk#ws)
His cross over is so fast you might not realize what just happened until the ball hits the net!
-
blackjesus_4
Follow my new backcourt partner @philgreene4 we say turn up next year stjohn!!!!!
philgreene4
Yessuh!!! We taking ova next year watch and see 🏀🏀
http://instagram.com/p/YAg2PeuYAo/ (http://instagram.com/p/YAg2PeuYAo/)
-
JaKarr Sampson @KarrSampson14 5h
Welcome to the fam bro! @sheedjordan
-
blackjesus_4
Follow my new backcourt partner @philgreene4 we say turn up next year stjohn!!!!!
philgreene4
Yessuh!!! We taking ova next year watch and see
http://instagram.com/p/YAg2PeuYAo/ (http://instagram.com/p/YAg2PeuYAo/)
The link is broken
-
Love that we got sheed and he seems very talented and can become a great player for us but hope we all show some patience and allow him some time to adapt to a much higher level of basketball. Let's also remember that point guard is probably the toughest position to transition to when you go up another level of competition much like quarterback in football. Great to have an uber talent coming in to play the point and because it is the hardest position to adapt to I fully expect and hope sheed is with us for at least 2 seasons.
-
blackjesus_4
Follow my new backcourt partner @philgreene4 we say turn up next year stjohn!!!!!
philgreene4
Yessuh!!! We taking ova next year watch and see
http://instagram.com/p/YAg2PeuYAo/ (http://instagram.com/p/YAg2PeuYAo/)
The link is broken
you need to have an instagram account.
-
blackjesus_4
Follow my new backcourt partner @philgreene4 we say turn up next year stjohn!!!!!
philgreene4
Yessuh!!! We taking ova next year watch and see
http://instagram.com/p/YAg2PeuYAo/ (http://instagram.com/p/YAg2PeuYAo/)
The link is broken
you need to have an instagram account.
I have one and it doesn't work.
-
blackjesus_4
Follow my new backcourt partner @philgreene4 we say turn up next year stjohn!!!!!
philgreene4
Yessuh!!! We taking ova next year watch and see
http://instagram.com/p/YAg2PeuYAo/ (http://instagram.com/p/YAg2PeuYAo/)
The link is broken
you need to have an instagram account.
I have one and it doesn't work.
Yeah what he said lol...it doesn't matter if you have one or not for some reason it's not working.
-
Love that we got sheed and he seems very talented and can become a great player for us but hope we all show some patience and allow him some time to adapt to a much higher level of basketball. Let's also remember that point guard is probably the toughest position to transition to when you go up another level of competition much like quarterback in football. Great to have an uber talent coming in to play the point and because it is the hardest position to adapt to I fully expect and hope sheed is with us for at least 2 seasons.
Thinking of him as a Jason Kidd/Mike Bibby hybrid is keeping my expectations reasonable, right? ;D
-
Love that we got sheed and he seems very talented and can become a great player for us but hope we all show some patience and allow him some time to adapt to a much higher level of basketball. Let's also remember that point guard is probably the toughest position to transition to when you go up another level of competition much like quarterback in football. Great to have an uber talent coming in to play the point and because it is the hardest position to adapt to I fully expect and hope sheed is with us for at least 2 seasons.
Thinking of him as a Jason Kidd/Mike Bibby hybrid is keeping my expectations reasonable, right? ;D
I'd be happy with a Kendall Williams. But comparing HS senior years, Rysheed is much better. The 6'4 190 lb PG won Mountain West Conference MVP this season as a Junior - 29-5 record, 13-3 in conference, despite the #2 SOS in D-1.
-
CR, have Johnnie's ever beaten Ucla out on a player?
-
CR, have Johnnie's ever beaten Ucla out on a player?
Well, Jim Harrick recruited Felipe (just like everyone else did!). Went hard after 3 players at that position in that class. But he REALLY wanted Ricky Price. "Settled" for 3rd choice Toby Bailey (whom rumor has it was recruited only because he was AAU teammate and friend of Price. Krzyzewski got stuck with the underachieving Price (lots of reasons but after a fine soph season, as a junior Price dropped to 6 pts a game, and only 2 a game off the bench as a Sr). Felipe didn't live up to his hype (no one really could!) but to an outside observer had a pretty decent college career at SJU. Toby didn't have any hype to live up to, but in his 4 years he went the tourney 4 times, a Sweet 16, an Elite 8, and scored 26 pts in the '95 title game, winniing the NCAA Championship. He finished as UCLA's #4 all time scorer, #5 all time assists, #9 all time steals, #15 all time rebounds.
The three players best years:
Felipe: 17.8 pts, 5.7 rebs, 2.8 asst, 1.5 stls, 41.1% FG, 30.1% 3s, 75.3% FTs
Bailey: 17.9 pts, 5.9 rebs, 4.8 asst, 1.4 stls, 48.4% FG, 39.5% 3s, 73.7% FTs
RPrice: 14.2 pts, 3.5 rebs, 1.5 asst, 0.6 stls, 43.9% FG, 39.3% 3s, 71.1% FTs
Felipe's the only one I can think of. I'm sure we had feelers out on several others, but no one else really "targeted" so that you could say one school "beat" the other for the player....
-
Wayne McKoy '77
Everybody and they brother wanted him.
-
Wayne McKoy '77
Everybody and they brother wanted him.
* * * * * * * * * WARNING - DISCUSSION OF UCLA FOLLOWS * * * * * * * * *
Except that they already had 6'10 David Greenwood, 6'8 Kiki Vandweghe, 7'0 Brett Vroman, 6'10 Darrell Alums, 6'8 James Wilkes on the roster thru at least 1979 in the frontcourt (All 5 would reach the NBA), also HS All American center 6'10 Gig Sims had been sigend the year before, and California player of the year 6'7 Chris Lippert was only a soph (neither lived up to their billing). It was a crowded frontcourt. The roster was full. Future NBA guards Roy Hamilton, Brad Hollard, Ray Townsend were also locked in on the roster, as were Marv Thomas, Rennie Kelly and Bill Leonard. Yes, that Bruin squad in 1978 had 8 future NBA players).
Really WANTED Wayne, yes. He'd been targeted as an underclassman. Bjt the timetable got thrown off when 1975 NCAA Tourney MVP Richard Washington became UCLA's first "early entry", and left after the 1976 season. Focus changed from recruiting 1977 bigs like McKoy to be frosh in 1978 to the 1976 class, to fill the roster needs in 1977 - and Allums and Sims were signed.
Then, to top it off, Gene Bartow couldn't take the pressure of following John Wooden and quit after the 1977 season, and former Wooden assistant Gary Cunningham came back to take over in 1978.
"Losing" McKoy was a matter of no scholarships (however as we know that can be "gotten around"), no PT available (McKoy was all world in HS, but he wasn't beating out Greenwood, Vandweghe, Allums, and Vroman - certainly not as a frosh), and the coaching change.
THIS loss (of Rysheed), is the first time the Bruins have lost a player they NEEDED to St Johns. Bruin fans don't realize it yet. They've drunk so much of the local media Kool-Aid (Howland abandoned "local" recruiting in favor of national players and that's what has "destroyed" UCLA basketball) that they seem to think losing 'Sheed is a good thing, as it gives them a better shot with local 2014 PG 6'0 170 Jordan McLaughlin - who's being heavily pimped by the UCLA SCOUT.Com Gurus. They don't get that the 6'4 200 lb Rysheed is likely BETTER - and would CERTAINLY be better as a Soph in 2015 than McLaughlin would be as a frosh that year. Plus, they'd have actually HAD a point guard in 2014. Unless Steve Alford pulls a rabbit out of his hat, UCLA is going to run a freshman Shooting guard at the PG spot next season (albeit REALLY good freshman shooting guards).
-
Wayne McKoy '77
Everybody and they brother wanted him.
* * * * * * * * * WARNING - DISCUSSION OF UCLA FOLLOWS * * * * * * * * *
Except that they already had 6'10 David Greenwood, 6'8 Kiki Vandweghe, 7'0 Brett Vroman, 6'10 Darrell Alums, 6'8 James Wilkes on the roster thru at least 1979 in the frontcourt (All 5 would reach the NBA), also HS All American center 6'10 Gig Sims had been sigend the year before, and California player of the year 6'7 Chris Lippert was only a soph (neither lived up to their billing). It was a crowded frontcourt. The roster was full. Future NBA guards Roy Hamilton, Brad Hollard, Ray Townsend were also locked in on the roster, as were Marv Thomas, Rennie Kelly and Bill Leonard. Yes, that Bruin squad in 1978 had 8 future NBA players).
Really WANTED Wayne, yes. He'd been targeted as an underclassman. Bjt the timetable got thrown off when 1975 NCAA Tourney MVP Richard Washington became UCLA's first "early entry", and left after the 1976 season. Focus changed from recruiting 1977 bigs like McKoy to be frosh in 1978 to the 1976 class, to fill the roster needs in 1977 - and Allums and Sims were signed.
Then, to top it off, Gene Bartow couldn't take the pressure of following John Wooden and quit after the 1977 season, and former Wooden assistant Gary Cunningham came back to take over in 1978.
"Losing" McKoy was a matter of no scholarships (however as we know that can be "gotten around"), no PT available (McKoy was all world in HS, but he wasn't beating out Greenwood, Vandweghe, Allums, and Vroman - certainly not as a frosh), and the coaching change.
THIS loss (of Rysheed), is the first time the Bruins have lost a player they NEEDED to St Johns. Bruin fans don't realize it yet. They've drunk so much of the local media Kool-Aid (Howland abandoned "local" recruiting in favor of national players and that's what has "destroyed" UCLA basketball) that they seem to think losing 'Sheed is a good thing, as it gives them a better shot with local 2014 PG 6'0 170 Jordan McLaughlin - who's being heavily pimped by the UCLA SCOUT.Com Gurus. They don't get that the 6'4 200 lb Rysheed is likely BETTER - and would CERTAINLY be better as a Soph in 2015 than McLaughlin would be as a frosh that year. Plus, they'd have actually HAD a point guard in 2014. Unless Steve Alford pulls a rabbit out of his hat, UCLA is going to run a freshman Shooting guard at the PG spot next season (albeit REALLY good freshman shooting guards).
I disagree I read some of the UCLA posts and they are not happy they lost Jorden and loosing him to Lavin only makes it worse.
-
Based on photos, it looks like Sheed put on a good deal of muscle it the last year. Keep it coming!
-
Based on photos, it looks like Sheed put on a good deal of muscle it the last year. Keep it coming!
Settle down there Scotch :)
-
Based on photos, it looks like Sheed put on a good deal of muscle it the last year. Keep it coming!
Settle down there Scotch :)
Hahaha this got a chuckle out of me.
-
Scotch would have based it on a random encounter on the Vaux Roberts campus, though, and not a photograph.
-
Why was Sheed not invited to the Jordan Classic?
-
Why was Sheed not invited to the Jordan Classic?
Because he didn't commit to Kentucky
-
Why was Sheed not invited to the Jordan Classic?
Only 4 PGs (2 per side) were invited. All four of the PGs ranked ahead of Rysheed in ESPN's top 100 at the time of the invitations (Harrison, Ennis, Williams-Goss, and Hill) all accepted. Subsequently, the rankings were revised, and Rysheed moved ahead of Ennis, but that was too late.
-
Is this saying something about DeAngelo?
blackjesus_4
Follow my new backcourt partner @philgreene4 we say turn up next year stjohn!!!!!
philgreene4
Yessuh!!! We taking ova next year watch and see
-
Is this saying something about DeAngelo?
blackjesus_4
Follow my new backcourt partner @philgreene4 we say turn up next year stjohn!!!!!
philgreene4
Yessuh!!! We taking ova next year watch and see
No
-
Is Rysheed playing in any allstar games?
-
Is Rysheed playing in any allstar games?
Derby Classic next week. Hevwill play on same team as former SJU recruit Jerell Martin.
http://www.thecardinalconnect.com/2013/02/26/2013-kentucky-derby-festival-basketabll-classic-rosters-released/ (http://www.thecardinalconnect.com/2013/02/26/2013-kentucky-derby-festival-basketabll-classic-rosters-released/)
-
Harrison doesn't have twitter. That's probably about all that's saying.
-
Rysheed vs Tyler Ennis in the Derby classic. Preview of next years matchup.
-
Rysheed vs Tyler Ennis in the Derby classic. Preview of next years matchup.
probably our best chance to beat SU since Barkley was running the offense.
-
Any TV boradcast for the game?
-
Rysheed vs Tyler Ennis in the Derby classic. Preview of next years matchup.
probably our best chance to beat SU since Barkley was running the offense.
Was the last time we beat them the game Avery Paterson had the 4 point play late in the game? Wow 7 years.
-
Rysheed vs Tyler Ennis in the Derby classic. Preview of next years matchup.
probably our best chance to beat SU since Barkley was running the offense.
Was the last time we beat them the game Avery Paterson had the 4 point play late in the game? Wow 7 years.
Wasn't that Larry Wright?
-
Rysheed vs Tyler Ennis in the Derby classic. Preview of next years matchup.
probably our best chance to beat SU since Barkley was running the offense.
Was the last time we beat them the game Avery Paterson had the 4 point play late in the game? Wow 7 years.
Wasn't that Larry Wright?
Larry hit one later in the year vs WV when we came back from a big deficit only to lose at the end. I think in OT, and I think the last game of the year as well. Actually come to think about it I think it was the next year because Burrell was on the squad and had his only two points in overtime before fouling out.
All this is just going by my memory so I could easily be wrong but pretty confident it was Patterson who his the one vs cuse. Devendorf was the one who fouled him pretty sure. Think we rushed the court haha
-
Rysheed vs Tyler Ennis in the Derby classic. Preview of next years matchup.
probably our best chance to beat SU since Barkley was running the offense.
Was the last time we beat them the game Avery Paterson had the 4 point play late in the game? Wow 7 years.
Wasn't that Larry Wright?
Larry hit one later in the year vs WV when we came back from a big deficit only to lose at the end. I think in OT, and I think the last game of the year as well. Actually come to think about it I think it was the next year because Burrell was on the squad and had his only two points in overtime before fouling out.
All this is just going by my memory so I could easily be wrong but pretty confident it was Patterson who his the one vs cuse. Devendorf was the one who fouled him pretty sure. Think we rushed the court haha
This is what I was thinking of. It was the next game after Cuse.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/01/23/AR2007012301584_pf.html (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/01/23/AR2007012301584_pf.html)
-
Rysheed vs Tyler Ennis in the Derby classic. Preview of next years matchup.
probably our best chance to beat SU since Barkley was running the offense.
Was the last time we beat them the game Avery Paterson had the 4 point play late in the game? Wow 7 years.
Wasn't that Larry Wright?
Larry hit one later in the year vs WV when we came back from a big deficit only to lose at the end. I think in OT, and I think the last game of the year as well. Actually come to think about it I think it was the next year because Burrell was on the squad and had his only two points in overtime before fouling out.
All this is just going by my memory so I could easily be wrong but pretty confident it was Patterson who his the one vs cuse. Devendorf was the one who fouled him pretty sure. Think we rushed the court haha
This is what I was thinking of. It was the next game after Cuse.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/01/23/AR2007012301584_pf.html (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/01/23/AR2007012301584_pf.html)
Oh yea I remember that one. Great pass by lamont. Think he caught it in the air and got rid of it before he even landed on his feet.
-
Is this high school game Jordan's in going to be on television? Love to watch him play...
-
Is this high school game Jordan's in going to be on television? Love to watch him play...
NM
-
That story is from 2011
-
That story is from 2011
Oops.. My mistake. Thought the link said 13'
-
That story is from 2011
Marcus is a little slow :)
-
That story is from 2011
Marcus is a little slow :)
Lol, in my defense I just got home from a 24 hour shift and have been running on fumes. Refinance house today, new baby tomorrow. I'm not at the top of my posting game. I mean c'mon, Mkras took a year or two off just because he got married! ;)
-
I thought you were moving to North Carolina?
Boy or girl this time?
-
I thought you were moving to North Carolina?
Boy or girl this time?
I still want to move, but delayed slightly what with the new baby. This time a girl. Add that to my 2 boys Avery and Tyler.
-
I thought you were moving to North Carolina?
Boy or girl this time?
I still want to move, but delayed slightly what with the new baby. This time a girl. Add that to my 2 boys Avery and Tyler.
MCNPA- Good luck with #3. The whole ballgame changes. You and your wife need to adjust strategies. No more man to man, time for the matchup zone D...
all the best.
-
That story is from 2011
Marcus is a little slow :)
Lol, in my defense I just got home from a 24 hour shift and have been running on fumes. Refinance house today, new baby tomorrow. I'm not at the top of my posting game. I mean c'mon, Mkras took a year or two off just because he got married! ;)
Hey yesterday I had to battle to battle a hangover, getting to the gym, watching the masters and making it to the driving range. We are all busy, lol. One of these days I will have adult issue to deal with
-
Who gets squeezed out of the rotation? Clearly Jordan, D-lo, Sampson, Dom, Obekpa, Sanchez, Greene, Branch are all going to play significant minutes. That doesn't leave too much room for the rest of them. Guys like Bourgoult, Gift, Jones, Balamou and Hooper are going to have to fight their way. (I'm not sure how to read Hooper. I like what I read, but we'll see when he gets out on the court.)
-
That story is from 2011
Marcus is a little slow :)
Lol, in my defense I just got home from a 24 hour shift and have been running on fumes. Refinance house today, new baby tomorrow. I'm not at the top of my posting game. I mean c'mon, Mkras took a year or two off just because he got married! ;)
I suspect in about a week MCN is texting me to go out for drinks just to get out of the house :)
-
Who gets squeezed out of the rotation? Clearly Jordan, D-lo, Sampson, Dom, Obekpa, Sanchez, Greene, Branch are all going to play significant minutes. That doesn't leave too much room for the rest of them. Guys like Bourgoult, Gift, Jones, Balamou and Hooper are going to have to fight their way. (I'm not sure how to read Hooper. I like what I read, but we'll see when he gets out on the court.)
I have a feeling that Hooper will play against the zone. They'll need him too. And who knows, maybe Bourgault gets better? Hey, it's possible.
-
Who gets squeezed out of the rotation? Clearly Jordan, D-lo, Sampson, Dom, Obekpa, Sanchez, Greene, Branch are all going to play significant minutes. That doesn't leave too much room for the rest of them. Guys like Bourgoult, Gift, Jones, Balamou and Hooper are going to have to fight their way. (I'm not sure how to read Hooper. I like what I read, but we'll see when he gets out on the court.)
I think Green gets squeezed out.
-
Comes in at #20, Severe at #141 fwiw.
“@Corey_Rivals513: Final rankings for the class of 2013. Here's the newest Rivals150 - http://ow.ly/k57A7 (http://ow.ly/k57A7) #BBN”
-
Rhysheed Jordan BREAKS defender with a NASTY CROSSOVER and nails the three!!!!!!! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-johjWXRZw#)
Luckily for Samuels, Rysheed will be playing in a different conference next year.
-
Comes in at #20, Severe at #141 fwiw.
“@Corey_Rivals513: Final rankings for the class of 2013. Here's the newest Rivals150 - http://ow.ly/k57A7 (http://ow.ly/k57A7) #BBN”
If you look at the 4 kids that Lavin targeted this year you have 3 5-star kids (Martin at #13, Jordan at #20 and Lawrence at #26) and a 4 star kid at #55-Wainright.
Tells you what league he wants to play in.
-
Comes in at #20, Severe at #141 fwiw.
“@Corey_Rivals513: Final rankings for the class of 2013. Here's the newest Rivals150 - http://ow.ly/k57A7 (http://ow.ly/k57A7) #BBN”
#3 pg in the class. Think casey hill is great, but think the Harrison twins are a little overrated.
-
Who gets squeezed out of the rotation? Clearly Jordan, D-lo, Sampson, Dom, Obekpa, Sanchez, Greene, Branch are all going to play significant minutes. That doesn't leave too much room for the rest of them. Guys like Bourgoult, Gift, Jones, Balamou and Hooper are going to have to fight their way. (I'm not sure how to read Hooper. I like what I read, but we'll see when he gets out on the court.)
I have a feeling that Hooper will play against the zone. They'll need him too. And who knows, maybe Bourgault gets better? Hey, it's possible.
How can he get better if he won't move. A guy like him gotta know his spot, and get there quick so the other guys know he going to be there. Even on a break, he got to get to the corner so if the other team does go to the middle to stop the ball he's standing in the corner for open look. but he don't get there. Dunlevy did that great for Duke.
-
Who gets squeezed out of the rotation? Clearly Jordan, D-lo, Sampson, Dom, Obekpa, Sanchez, Greene, Branch are all going to play significant minutes. That doesn't leave too much room for the rest of them. Guys like Bourgoult, Gift, Jones, Balamou and Hooper are going to have to fight their way. (I'm not sure how to read Hooper. I like what I read, but we'll see when he gets out on the court.)
I have a feeling that Hooper will play against the zone. They'll need him too. And who knows, maybe Bourgault gets better? Hey, it's possible.
How can he get better if he won't move. A guy like him gotta know his spot, and get there quick so the other guys know he going to be there. Even on a break, he got to get to the corner so if the other team does go to the middle to stop the ball he's standing in the corner for open look. but he don't get there. Dunlevy did that great for Duke.
I agree that doesn't move. It was my first criticism of his game, and actually the one I'd like him work on the most. He's a lolly gagger like Avery Patterson. If he's going to the ball at all this season, he's gonna have work hard and earn it.
Of a the new players last year, he was the least impressive, and he has the farthest to go to being able to compete at the level we need. And while I said its possible, it certainly isn't likely.
That said, maybe his knee wasn't 100%, and maybe he'll be more comfortable next season. Who knows how much a player will improve? I think the player does.
-
That story is from 2011
Marcus is a little slow :)
Lol, in my defense I just got home from a 24 hour shift and have been running on fumes. Refinance house today, new baby tomorrow. I'm not at the top of my posting game. I mean c'mon, Mkras took a year or two off just because he got married! ;)
I suspect in about a week MCN is texting me to go out for drinks just to get out of the house :)
You're probably right... Haven't had a minute to myself and baby isn't even here yet. At least I made time to go to BJJ class tonight. A small reprieve.
-
That story is from 2011
Marcus is a little slow :)
Lol, in my defense I just got home from a 24 hour shift and have been running on fumes. Refinance house today, new baby tomorrow. I'm not at the top of my posting game. I mean c'mon, Mkras took a year or two off just because he got married! ;)
Hey yesterday I had to battle to battle a hangover, getting to the gym, watching the masters and making it to the driving range. We are all busy, lol. One of these days I will have adult issue to deal with
First, Marcus, is that really your boys names? Not that there's anything wrong with them but the STJ connections gave me a chuckle.
And Conor, suggest you settle down with that girlfriend of yours before she smartens up. ;)
-
When does Jordan sign his LOI
-
I thought you were moving to North Carolina?
Boy or girl this time?
I still want to move, but delayed slightly what with the new baby. This time a girl. Add that to my 2 boys Avery and Tyler.
MCNPA- Good luck with #3. The whole ballgame changes. You and your wife need to adjust strategies. No more man to man, time for the matchup zone D...
all the best.
+1
Great analogy Boo.
Best of luck to you, your wife, and your growing family MCN.
-
Tonight;
“@NYDNDickWeiss: jordan has 23, 13 assists, 5 steals as team philly advanced to finals of legendary conshocken classic outside philly”
“@NYDNDickWeiss: little doubt st. john's recruit rysheed jordan should have in mcdonald's game 6-3 pg from philly vaux is fabulous talent”
-
That story is from 2011
Marcus is a little slow :)
Lol, in my defense I just got home from a 24 hour shift and have been running on fumes. Refinance house today, new baby tomorrow. I'm not at the top of my posting game. I mean c'mon, Mkras took a year or two off just because he got married! ;)
Hey yesterday I had to battle to battle a hangover, getting to the gym, watching the masters and making it to the driving range. We are all busy, lol. One of these days I will have adult issue to deal with
First, Marcus, is that really your boys names? Not that there's anything wrong with them but the STJ connections gave me a chuckle.
And Conor, suggest you settle down with that girlfriend of yours before she smartens up. ;)
Conor goes to the opera now with his girlfriend. He's more married than me. At least he dulls the opera with Bourbon afterwards :)
And I actually think he eats out more than me now. A sure sign he's married
But he gets a pass because his gf is awesome ( and the fact Nat likes her means I can just lie and say I'm hanging out with him and I can go out in the city whenever I want. LOL )
-
When does Jordan sign his LOI
I'm pretty sure on April 17th.
-
#3 pg in the class. Think casey hill is great, but think the Harrison twins are a little overrated.
Have you ever seen the Harrison twins play a real game..? What makes you say they are overrated.?
-
Last nights results;
http://cityofbasketballlove.com/2013/04/donofrio-classic-recap-april-15-2013/ (http://cityofbasketballlove.com/2013/04/donofrio-classic-recap-april-15-2013/)
-
When does Jordan sign his LOI
I'm pretty sure on April 17th.
April 17 is the start of the LOI period. It extends into May. No reason he shouldn't be signing on April 17, but he does have a month to do so.
-
pen to paper
Josh Verlin @jmverlin 12m
Rysheed Jordan will host a press conference/NLI signing at 9am tomorrow at Vaux High (2300 Master St, Philadelphia).
-
“@sheedjordan: Leave for Kentucky 2mar✈✈✈
#allstargame!!”
-
#3 pg in the class. Think casey hill is great, but think the Harrison twins are a little overrated.
Have you ever seen the Harrison twins play a real game..? What makes you say they are overrated.?
Saw one on TV, plus all star games and highlights. I think that Andrew is quite a bit better than aaron. I think it's ridiculous how sites seem to always rank twins right near each other ( wear twins and Morris twins for example). I think that Andrew is deserving of a top ten ranking but that rysheed is better than aaron. Just my opinion.
-
ESPN showing A LOT of Johnnie love.
RecruitingNation: Top Big East hoops classes - ESPN Video - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=9164124)
-
This kid can score a little bit. At Donofrio Final tonight;
“@jmverlin: Rysheed Jordan with a DEEP 3. 115-107, I-3, with 2:00 left. Jordan has 43 points.”
He lost but,
“@jmverlin: Championship game MVP goes to Rysheed Jordan, who finished with 45.”
-
This kid has put up MONSTROUS numbers. One thing we needed so badly was for a scoring guard who can find open guys and score at will. We found him. We barely ever turned the ball over this year. Now mix that with more rebounding via Sanchez/Gift/improved Pointer, Obekpa and more scoring with Sanchez and Jordan. Anything less than a 20 win tourney team is an utter disaster.
By the way, anyone know if his press conference is televised at 9AM tomorrow? Really want to see it.
-
By the way, anyone know if his press conference is televised at 9AM tomorrow? Really want to see it.
Yea CBS, NBC, FOX and ABC all televising it.
What part of a kid signing his name to a piece of paper excites you so much?
-
By the way, anyone know if his press conference is televised at 9AM tomorrow? Really want to see it.
Yea CBS, NBC, FOX and ABC all televising it.
What part of a kid signing his name to a piece of paper excites you so much?
Rough day at work Moose? Jeez chill. It's not like he's signing a paper then running away. It's a press conference. You might be the only one on the entire board not interested to see it.
-
By the way, anyone know if his press conference is televised at 9AM tomorrow? Really want to see it.
Yea CBS, NBC, FOX and ABC all televising it.
What part of a kid signing his name to a piece of paper excites you so much?
Rough day at work Moose? Jeez chill. It's not like he's signing a paper then running away. It's a press conference. You might be the only one on the entire board not interested to see it.
You of all people need to know when you leave yourself open to something to take a joke.
What is he going to say tomorrow that he hasn't said or hasn't been said already? I doubt anyone from any of the NY papers will be there. Its a ceremonial thing for him to sign the paper and make it official. No I'm not excited to see it. I was excited to see him verbal. A mere formality like tomorrow doesn't get me all excited.
-
When your favorite team signs a major player usually you have interest in the press conference to hear what the player has to say. You are in the minority IMO. Why not be excited about it? No need to get all sour...this is a special time in the program where we might seriously break through in a major way next year because of him.
-
When your favorite team signs a major player usually you have interest in the press conference to hear what the player has to say. You are in the minority IMO. Why not be excited about it? No need to get all sour...this is a special time in the program where we might seriously break through in a major way next year because of him.
I heard what he and his coaches had to say. Check out the articles from last week. And I am excited. I'll be sure next time to be more excited. Maybe I'll even sign onto the Temple boards and talk trash ;)
-
Interesting Temple article on their recruiting
http://temple-news.com/sports/2013/04/16/cranney-a-new-take-on-recruiting-after-jordan-decision/ (http://temple-news.com/sports/2013/04/16/cranney-a-new-take-on-recruiting-after-jordan-decision/)
http://espn.go.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/index?topId=9160495 (http://espn.go.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/index?topId=9160495) (Made the front page of Recruiting Nation).
Apologies if these have already been posted.
-
Interesting Temple article on their recruiting
http://temple-news.com/sports/2013/04/16/cranney-a-new-take-on-recruiting-after-jordan-decision/ (http://temple-news.com/sports/2013/04/16/cranney-a-new-take-on-recruiting-after-jordan-decision/)
http://espn.go.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/index?topId=9160495 (http://espn.go.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/index?topId=9160495) (Made the front page of Recruiting Nation).
Apologies if these have already been posted.
A Philadelphia native hasn’t committed to play men’s basketball at Temple since Scootie Randall joined the team in 2008.
Sounds like our fans talking about NYC players.
-
Interesting Temple article on their recruiting
http://temple-news.com/sports/2013/04/16/cranney-a-new-take-on-recruiting-after-jordan-decision/ (http://temple-news.com/sports/2013/04/16/cranney-a-new-take-on-recruiting-after-jordan-decision/)
http://espn.go.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/index?topId=9160495 (http://espn.go.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/index?topId=9160495) (Made the front page of Recruiting Nation).
Apologies if these have already been posted.
A Philadelphia native hasn’t committed to play men’s basketball at Temple since Scootie Randall joined the team in 2008.
Sounds like our fans talking about NYC players.
Yea, the idea that our posters don't bad mouth nyc recruits after they sign elsewhere is laughable.
It happens every. single. time.
-
Interesting Temple article on their recruiting
http://temple-news.com/sports/2013/04/16/cranney-a-new-take-on-recruiting-after-jordan-decision/ (http://temple-news.com/sports/2013/04/16/cranney-a-new-take-on-recruiting-after-jordan-decision/)
http://espn.go.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/index?topId=9160495 (http://espn.go.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/index?topId=9160495) (Made the front page of Recruiting Nation).
Apologies if these have already been posted.
A Philadelphia native hasn’t committed to play men’s basketball at Temple since Scootie Randall joined the team in 2008.
Sounds like our fans talking about NYC players.
Yea, the idea that our posters don't bad mouth nyc recruits after they sign elsewhere is laughable.
It happens every. single. time.
Sure it happens, but nowhere near the level of Philly fans. I mean they are literally tweeting an 18 yr old kid tearing him apart. We don't do that with Lawrence or McCullough. Philly is the trashiest sports city and always has been.
-
Interesting Temple article on their recruiting
http://temple-news.com/sports/2013/04/16/cranney-a-new-take-on-recruiting-after-jordan-decision/ (http://temple-news.com/sports/2013/04/16/cranney-a-new-take-on-recruiting-after-jordan-decision/)
http://espn.go.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/index?topId=9160495 (http://espn.go.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/index?topId=9160495) (Made the front page of Recruiting Nation).
Apologies if these have already been posted.
A Philadelphia native hasn’t committed to play men’s basketball at Temple since Scootie Randall joined the team in 2008.
Sounds like our fans talking about NYC players.
Yea, the idea that our posters don't bad mouth nyc recruits after they sign elsewhere is laughable.
It happens every. single. time.
Sure it happens, but nowhere near the level of Philly fans. I mean they are literally tweeting an 18 yr old kid tearing him apart. We don't do that with Lawrence or McCullough. Philly is the trashiest sports city and always has been.
I'm actually going to agree with Joe3, to some extent. Yes, we b!tch everytime we lose a local recruit to another school, but the Temple fans have been screaming from the rooftops over Jordan's decision for days. From all of the boards and comment threads I've read, the Temple fans have been relentless in trashing Jordan, Lavin & STJ over his decision. When we lost J Lawrence, sure, we vented, but not to the same extent the Temple fans have been doing over Jordan, at least from what I have read.
-
Interesting Temple article on their recruiting
http://temple-news.com/sports/2013/04/16/cranney-a-new-take-on-recruiting-after-jordan-decision/ (http://temple-news.com/sports/2013/04/16/cranney-a-new-take-on-recruiting-after-jordan-decision/)
http://espn.go.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/index?topId=9160495 (http://espn.go.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/index?topId=9160495) (Made the front page of Recruiting Nation).
Apologies if these have already been posted.
A Philadelphia native hasn’t committed to play men’s basketball at Temple since Scootie Randall joined the team in 2008.
Sounds like our fans talking about NYC players.
Yea, the idea that our posters don't bad mouth nyc recruits after they sign elsewhere is laughable.
It happens every. single. time.
Sure it happens, but nowhere near the level of Philly fans. I mean they are literally tweeting an 18 yr old kid tearing him apart. We don't do that with Lawrence or McCullough. Philly is the trashiest sports city and always has been.
I'm actually going to agree with Joe3, to some extent. Yes, we b!tch everytime we lose a local recruit to another school, but the Temple fans have been screaming from the rooftops over Jordan's decision for days. From all of the boards and comment threads I've read, the Temple fans have been relentless in trashing Jordan, Lavin & STJ over his decision. When we lost J Lawrence, sure, we vented, but not to the same extent the Temple fans have been doing over Jordan, at least from what I have read.
Because we don't have enough fans that care and/or are social media savvy ;)
-
Interesting Temple article on their recruiting
http://temple-news.com/sports/2013/04/16/cranney-a-new-take-on-recruiting-after-jordan-decision/ (http://temple-news.com/sports/2013/04/16/cranney-a-new-take-on-recruiting-after-jordan-decision/)
http://espn.go.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/index?topId=9160495 (http://espn.go.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/index?topId=9160495) (Made the front page of Recruiting Nation).
Apologies if these have already been posted.
A Philadelphia native hasn’t committed to play men’s basketball at Temple since Scootie Randall joined the team in 2008.
Sounds like our fans talking about NYC players.
Yea, the idea that our posters don't bad mouth nyc recruits after they sign elsewhere is laughable.
It happens every. single. time.
Sure it happens, but nowhere near the level of Philly fans. I mean they are literally tweeting an 18 yr old kid tearing him apart. We don't do that with Lawrence or McCullough. Philly is the trashiest sports city and always has been.
I'm actually going to agree with Joe3, to some extent. Yes, we b!tch everytime we lose a local recruit to another school, but the Temple fans have been screaming from the rooftops over Jordan's decision for days. From all of the boards and comment threads I've read, the Temple fans have been relentless in trashing Jordan, Lavin & STJ over his decision. When we lost J Lawrence, sure, we vented, but not to the same extent the Temple fans have been doing over Jordan, at least from what I have read.
Because we don't have enough fans that care and/or are social media savvy ;)
Funny, and unfortunately, probably true. Our fan base on the whole is currently pretty apathetic. Of course, as a Mets fan, it's my experience that fan apathy usually accompanies a losing team. Maybe when we start winning again, our fans will be as rabid and vituperative as some of the Temple fans.
-
Rysheed is a monster talent. I've been saying it since we started recruiting him. Lavin has "quietly" put together a really talented roster. This season we probably would have made the ncaa's with Harrison. Next year we get back Harrison and add Gift, Hooper, Jordan and Sanchez. Not going to happy times for opponents with a deep and more grizzled roster.
-
Interesting Temple article on their recruiting
http://temple-news.com/sports/2013/04/16/cranney-a-new-take-on-recruiting-after-jordan-decision/ (http://temple-news.com/sports/2013/04/16/cranney-a-new-take-on-recruiting-after-jordan-decision/)
http://espn.go.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/index?topId=9160495 (http://espn.go.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/index?topId=9160495) (Made the front page of Recruiting Nation).
Apologies if these have already been posted.
A Philadelphia native hasn’t committed to play men’s basketball at Temple since Scootie Randall joined the team in 2008.
Sounds like our fans talking about NYC players.
Yea, the idea that our posters don't bad mouth nyc recruits after they sign elsewhere is laughable.
It happens every. single. time.
Sure it happens, but nowhere near the level of Philly fans. I mean they are literally tweeting an 18 yr old kid tearing him apart. We don't do that with Lawrence or McCullough. Philly is the trashiest sports city and always has been.
I'm actually going to agree with Joe3, to some extent. Yes, we b!tch everytime we lose a local recruit to another school, but the Temple fans have been screaming from the rooftops over Jordan's decision for days. From all of the boards and comment threads I've read, the Temple fans have been relentless in trashing Jordan, Lavin & STJ over his decision. When we lost J Lawrence, sure, we vented, but not to the same extent the Temple fans have been doing over Jordan, at least from what I have read.
Because we don't have enough fans that care and/or are social media savvy ;)
Actually, just the other day, SJ's twitter page posted something about having the most active twitter base out of any Big East school. So that theory is not true at least as far as twitter goes. I remember being surprised, but there was some kind of map showing the traffic to prove it. Being totally objective, I haven't seen any insulting posts towards either recent NYC recruit we just recently lost out on. Jordan has gone so far as to tweet stuff like "Ok try putting salt on my name like a slug", "Most of you Temple fans aren't even from Philly anyway!", etc. It's not just their fans either...it's the Philly media including bloggers and journalists for local papers that tore him apart. Sorry, but that does not happen with our base.
-
Interesting Temple article on their recruiting
http://temple-news.com/sports/2013/04/16/cranney-a-new-take-on-recruiting-after-jordan-decision/ (http://temple-news.com/sports/2013/04/16/cranney-a-new-take-on-recruiting-after-jordan-decision/)
http://espn.go.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/index?topId=9160495 (http://espn.go.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/index?topId=9160495) (Made the front page of Recruiting Nation).
Apologies if these have already been posted.
A Philadelphia native hasn’t committed to play men’s basketball at Temple since Scootie Randall joined the team in 2008.
Sounds like our fans talking about NYC players.
Yea, the idea that our posters don't bad mouth nyc recruits after they sign elsewhere is laughable.
It happens every. single. time.
Sure it happens, but nowhere near the level of Philly fans. I mean they are literally tweeting an 18 yr old kid tearing him apart. We don't do that with Lawrence or McCullough. Philly is the trashiest sports city and always has been.
I'm actually going to agree with Joe3, to some extent. Yes, we b!tch everytime we lose a local recruit to another school, but the Temple fans have been screaming from the rooftops over Jordan's decision for days. From all of the boards and comment threads I've read, the Temple fans have been relentless in trashing Jordan, Lavin & STJ over his decision. When we lost J Lawrence, sure, we vented, but not to the same extent the Temple fans have been doing over Jordan, at least from what I have read.
Because we don't have enough fans that care and/or are social media savvy ;)
Actually, just the other day, SJ's twitter page posted something about having the most active twitter base out of any Big East school. So that theory is not true at least as far as twitter goes. I remember being surprised, but there was some kind of map showing the traffic to prove it. Being totally objective, I haven't seen any insulting posts towards either recent NYC recruit we just recently lost out on. Jordan has gone so far as to tweet stuff like "Ok try putting salt on my name like a slug", "Most of you Temple fans aren't even from Philly anyway!", etc. It's not just their fans either...it's the Philly media including bloggers and journalists for local papers that tore him apart. Sorry, but that does not happen with our base.
It is evident from Rysheed Jordan's tweets that he is really catching heat from Philly fans and he is hurting from it. He tweets about not caring what others think, but it's pretty evident that he does. They must be pretty brutal. Good for him to get out of town. SJU fans certainly don't do that, and while our message boards at times can seem harsh, I can assure that most others are much, much worse.
-
Interesting Temple article on their recruiting
http://temple-news.com/sports/2013/04/16/cranney-a-new-take-on-recruiting-after-jordan-decision/ (http://temple-news.com/sports/2013/04/16/cranney-a-new-take-on-recruiting-after-jordan-decision/)
http://espn.go.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/index?topId=9160495 (http://espn.go.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/index?topId=9160495) (Made the front page of Recruiting Nation).
Apologies if these have already been posted.
A Philadelphia native hasn’t committed to play men’s basketball at Temple since Scootie Randall joined the team in 2008.
Sounds like our fans talking about NYC players.
Yea, the idea that our posters don't bad mouth nyc recruits after they sign elsewhere is laughable.
It happens every. single. time.
Sure it happens, but nowhere near the level of Philly fans. I mean they are literally tweeting an 18 yr old kid tearing him apart. We don't do that with Lawrence or McCullough. Philly is the trashiest sports city and always has been.
I'm actually going to agree with Joe3, to some extent. Yes, we b!tch everytime we lose a local recruit to another school, but the Temple fans have been screaming from the rooftops over Jordan's decision for days. From all of the boards and comment threads I've read, the Temple fans have been relentless in trashing Jordan, Lavin & STJ over his decision. When we lost J Lawrence, sure, we vented, but not to the same extent the Temple fans have been doing over Jordan, at least from what I have read.
Because we don't have enough fans that care and/or are social media savvy ;)
Actually, just the other day, SJ's twitter page posted something about having the most active twitter base out of any Big East school. So that theory is not true at least as far as twitter goes. I remember being surprised, but there was some kind of map showing the traffic to prove it. Being totally objective, I haven't seen any insulting posts towards either recent NYC recruit we just recently lost out on. Jordan has gone so far as to tweet stuff like "Ok try putting salt on my name like a slug", "Most of you Temple fans aren't even from Philly anyway!", etc. It's not just their fans either...it's the Philly media including bloggers and journalists for local papers that tore him apart. Sorry, but that does not happen with our base.
My point Joseph is our fans don't Twitter stalk. And I'm happy we don't. Early on me and Dave were quick to point out that in many cases it 'could' be interpreted as violations. Plus the fact that it just looks downright disgusting as we're seeing with Rysheed.
Just because we have 10k Twitter fans and Gtown and Marquette have 8k and Nova has 5k while your beloved Creighton has 6k, that really means squat as we know from our attendance and all around interest. Our athletic dept was one of the first on Twitter and very aggressive in that field and props to them for it.
-
Interesting Temple article on their recruiting
http://temple-news.com/sports/2013/04/16/cranney-a-new-take-on-recruiting-after-jordan-decision/ (http://temple-news.com/sports/2013/04/16/cranney-a-new-take-on-recruiting-after-jordan-decision/)
http://espn.go.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/index?topId=9160495 (http://espn.go.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/index?topId=9160495) (Made the front page of Recruiting Nation).
Apologies if these have already been posted.
A Philadelphia native hasn’t committed to play men’s basketball at Temple since Scootie Randall joined the team in 2008.
Sounds like our fans talking about NYC players.
Yea, the idea that our posters don't bad mouth nyc recruits after they sign elsewhere is laughable.
It happens every. single. time.
Sure it happens, but nowhere near the level of Philly fans. I mean they are literally tweeting an 18 yr old kid tearing him apart. We don't do that with Lawrence or McCullough. Philly is the trashiest sports city and always has been.
I'm actually going to agree with Joe3, to some extent. Yes, we b!tch everytime we lose a local recruit to another school, but the Temple fans have been screaming from the rooftops over Jordan's decision for days. From all of the boards and comment threads I've read, the Temple fans have been relentless in trashing Jordan, Lavin & STJ over his decision. When we lost J Lawrence, sure, we vented, but not to the same extent the Temple fans have been doing over Jordan, at least from what I have read.
Because we don't have enough fans that care and/or are social media savvy ;)
Actually, just the other day, SJ's twitter page posted something about having the most active twitter base out of any Big East school. So that theory is not true at least as far as twitter goes. I remember being surprised, but there was some kind of map showing the traffic to prove it. Being totally objective, I haven't seen any insulting posts towards either recent NYC recruit we just recently lost out on. Jordan has gone so far as to tweet stuff like "Ok try putting salt on my name like a slug", "Most of you Temple fans aren't even from Philly anyway!", etc. It's not just their fans either...it's the Philly media including bloggers and journalists for local papers that tore him apart. Sorry, but that does not happen with our base.
My point Joseph is our fans don't Twitter stalk. And I'm happy we don't. Early on me and Dave were quick to point out that in many cases it 'could' be interpreted as violations. Plus the fact that it just looks downright disgusting as we're seeing with Rysheed.
Just because we have 10k Twitter fans and Gtown and Marquette have 8k and Nova has 5k while your beloved Creighton has 6k, that really means squat as we know from our attendance and all around interest. Our athletic dept was one of the first on Twitter and very aggressive in that field and props to them for it.
We have a very strong twitter following and that's one of the top ways to market this day in age. It will help get the SJ brand name out there and hopefully trending in NY a lot this coming season. I think it just speaks to the fact that there are many SJ fans out there, but they don't want to come out unless the team proves it has truly turned a corner and ready to consistently make the tourney again. The base exists, now the team has to win to bring them out. Pretty damn impressive to have a bigger twitter base than other teams with much more recent success than us. I can only imagine if we made the Elite 8 or something how crazy our twitter footprint would be.
As for Rysheed, even his mother was concerned about all the hate. There have also been threats I heard. As I said, Philly has the reputation of a trashy sports city for a reason. Eagles, Phillies, Flyers, Temple...doesn't matter. They were never known as classy. I think Rysheed will love the NY spotlight and all the love he's getting. By the way he just dropped 45 pts in a game earlier today. The kid is a man child.
-
I'm not really sure how adults can bash an 18 year old kid for making a decision about where he wants to go to college. Why are Phili kids expected to stay in Phili and same for NY? Part of college is going out and experiencing something and someplace new to you. Why should that exclude athletes? Clearly it's nice for the team when a player doesn't want to leave home and you keep him. But he's not getting to experience a huge part of what makes a man grow up, living away from home and mommy and daddy.
-
I'm not really sure how adults can bash an 18 year old kid for making a decision about where he wants to go to college. Why are Phili kids expected to stay in Phili and same for NY? Part of college is going out and experiencing something and someplace new to you. Why should that exclude athletes? Clearly it's nice for the team when a player doesn't want to leave home and you keep him. But he's not getting to experience a huge part of what makes a man grow up, living away from home and mommy and daddy.
You're not wrong, but what puzzles many is the details. Lawrence left NY to go to Cincinnati. Not Florida or California. You do not grow up by going to live in a Midwestern dump.
Durand Scott went to Miami. Ervin Walker went to Florida. What are you gonna do?
-
After morning signing Rysheed off to Kentucky for Derby Classic. Joe 3 hiding in Jordan's gym bag as I speak.
-
Signing day with his STJ Shirt on.
http://distilleryimage1.s3.amazonaws.com/a2d0d94aa77311e296f222000a9f4dd8_7.jpg (http://distilleryimage1.s3.amazonaws.com/a2d0d94aa77311e296f222000a9f4dd8_7.jpg)
-
http://distilleryimage4.s3.amazonaws.com/008475a2a77311e2a6df22000aaa21db_7.jpg (http://distilleryimage4.s3.amazonaws.com/008475a2a77311e2a6df22000aaa21db_7.jpg)
-
I'm not really sure how adults can bash an 18 year old kid for making a decision about where he wants to go to college. Why are Phili kids expected to stay in Phili and same for NY? Part of college is going out and experiencing something and someplace new to you. Why should that exclude athletes? Clearly it's nice for the team when a player doesn't want to leave home and you keep him. But he's not getting to experience a huge part of what makes a man grow up, living away from home and mommy and daddy.
You're not wrong, but what puzzles many is the details. Lawrence left NY to go to Cincinnati. Not Florida or California. You do not grow up by going to live in a Midwestern dump.
Durand Scott went to Miami. Ervin Walker went to Florida. What are you gonna do?
Maybe the kids that leave NYC just don't like it here....
-
When your favorite team signs a major player usually you have interest in the press conference to hear what the player has to say. You are in the minority IMO. Why not be excited about it? No need to get all sour...this is a special time in the program where we might seriously break through in a major way next year because of him.
I heard what he and his coaches had to say. Check out the articles from last week. And I am excited. I'll be sure next time to be more excited. Maybe I'll even sign onto the Temple boards and talk trash ;)
Haha!
-
I'm not really sure how adults can bash an 18 year old kid for making a decision about where he wants to go to college. Why are Phili kids expected to stay in Phili and same for NY? Part of college is going out and experiencing something and someplace new to you. Why should that exclude athletes? Clearly it's nice for the team when a player doesn't want to leave home and you keep him. But he's not getting to experience a huge part of what makes a man grow up, living away from home and mommy and daddy.
You're not wrong, but what puzzles many is the details. Lawrence left NY to go to Cincinnati. Not Florida or California. You do not grow up by going to live in a Midwestern dump.
Durand Scott went to Miami. Ervin Walker went to Florida. What are you gonna do?
Maybe the kids that leave NYC just don't like it here....
I didn't suggest that it wasn't the case. But to go to Cincinnati is senseless.
-
I'm not really sure how adults can bash an 18 year old kid for making a decision about where he wants to go to college. Why are Phili kids expected to stay in Phili and same for NY? Part of college is going out and experiencing something and someplace new to you. Why should that exclude athletes? Clearly it's nice for the team when a player doesn't want to leave home and you keep him. But he's not getting to experience a huge part of what makes a man grow up, living away from home and mommy and daddy.
You're not wrong, but what puzzles many is the details. Lawrence left NY to go to Cincinnati. Not Florida or California. You do not grow up by going to live in a Midwestern dump.
Durand Scott went to Miami. Ervin Walker went to Florida. What are you gonna do?
Maybe the kids that leave NYC just don't like it here....
I didn't suggest that it wasn't the case. But to go to Cincinnati is senseless.
I hope next time we play in the NCAA tournament its in Cincy and Poison has to go.
-
I'm not really sure how adults can bash an 18 year old kid for making a decision about where he wants to go to college. Why are Phili kids expected to stay in Phili and same for NY? Part of college is going out and experiencing something and someplace new to you. Why should that exclude athletes? Clearly it's nice for the team when a player doesn't want to leave home and you keep him. But he's not getting to experience a huge part of what makes a man grow up, living away from home and mommy and daddy.
You're not wrong, but what puzzles many is the details. Lawrence left NY to go to Cincinnati. Not Florida or California. You do not grow up by going to live in a Midwestern dump.
Durand Scott went to Miami. Ervin Walker went to Florida. What are you gonna do?
Maybe the kids that leave NYC just don't like it here....
I didn't suggest that it wasn't the case. But to go to Cincinnati is senseless.
I hope next time we play in the NCAA tournament its in Cincy and Poison has to go.
I have a big TV.
-
http://distilleryimage4.s3.amazonaws.com/008475a2a77311e2a6df22000aaa21db_7.jpg (http://distilleryimage4.s3.amazonaws.com/008475a2a77311e2a6df22000aaa21db_7.jpg)
What's with the gold medal?
-
It will be nice to root for a Jordan #23 and not have my heart ripped out by one.
-
Jordan looks about 6'3 7/8" in the signing picture. :)
-
Press conference article today;
“@jmverlin: First of a few things up this afternoon. @sheedjordan signed his NLI to @STJ_Basketball this morning, CoBL was there: http://cityofbasketballlove.com/2013/04/nli-signing-finalizes-rysheed-jordans-tough-decision/ (http://cityofbasketballlove.com/2013/04/nli-signing-finalizes-rysheed-jordans-tough-decision/)”
-
Don't think this was posted yet. If it was, just ignore...
Brandon Austin & Rysheed Jordan Dominate up Donofrio Classic (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JhfX-2SWzY#ws)
-
Derby Classic is Friday, hopefully its on television
-
http://distilleryimage4.s3.amazonaws.com/008475a2a77311e2a6df22000aaa21db_7.jpg (http://distilleryimage4.s3.amazonaws.com/008475a2a77311e2a6df22000aaa21db_7.jpg)
What's with the gold medal?
"Jordan entered the Roberts Vaux gym at around 9:30 in the morning, wearing a St. John’s shirt, St. John’s hat and his 2013 state championship medal around his neck. "
Damn it was hot in Jordan's bag...he never unzips that thing. :tickedoff:
-
Jordan looks about 6'3 7/8" in the signing picture. :)
Better not be not even 1/8 of an inch under 6'4"
-
http://cityofbasketballlove.com/2013/04/nli-signing-finalizes-rysheed-jordans-tough-decision/ (http://cityofbasketballlove.com/2013/04/nli-signing-finalizes-rysheed-jordans-tough-decision/)
-
“@STJ_Basketball: @sheedjordan also is the highest-rated rookie prospect headed into the new BIG EAST Conference. #stjbb #ThePrince”
“@STJ_Basketball: Ranked 22nd nationally in the final ESPN 100, Jordan is now the highest-rated recruit Lavin has signed since coming to #stjbb.”
-
Formal SJU announcement;
“@STJ_Basketball: IT'S OFFICIAL: @STJCoachLavin Signs Top 5 Point Guard @sheedjordan To NLI For 2013-14 Season: http://www.redstormsports.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/041713aac.html (http://www.redstormsports.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/041713aac.html)”
-
It will be nice to root for a Jordan #23 and not have my heart ripped out by one.
Unless he misses two free throws with a second left trailing by one against Kentucky in the national championship game.
-
New Video
Brandon Austin & Rysheed Jordan Dominate up Donofrio Classic (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JhfX-2SWzY#ws)
(http://i.imgur.com/517PkDP.jpg)
-
Lookin good in red and black! I don't remember too many other recruits this happy to be a Johnnie publicly...very nice to see. It shows our brand is stronger than many think.
-
Lookin good in red and black! I don't remember too many other recruits this happy to be a Johnnie publicly...very nice to see. It shows our brand is stronger than many think.
He just seems like a really passionate kid. Like a leader. I hope he's running our offense this season.
-
Lookin good in red and black! I don't remember too many other recruits this happy to be a Johnnie publicly...very nice to see. It shows our brand is stronger than many think.
He just seems like a really passionate kid. Like a leader. I hope he's running our offense this season.
What offense?
-
Lookin good in red and black! I don't remember too many other recruits this happy to be a Johnnie publicly...very nice to see. It shows our brand is stronger than many think.
He just seems like a really passionate kid. Like a leader. I hope he's running our offense this season.
Kid is our PG without a doubt. He has a motor that doesn't stop. It's a great quality. He certainly has the talent, but not all kids have the motor. Rysheed has both and it's rare. The kid is a big time competitor and doesn't want to lose. I like that in my PG. he's not like anything we have currently on the roster.
-
+1 mcnpa
-
Lookin good in red and black! I don't remember too many other recruits this happy to be a Johnnie publicly...very nice to see. It shows our brand is stronger than many think.
He just seems like a really passionate kid. Like a leader. I hope he's running our offense this season.
Kid is our PG without a doubt. He has a motor that doesn't stop. It's a great quality. He certainly has the talent, but not all kids have the motor. Rysheed has both and it's rare. The kid is a big time competitor and doesn't want to lose. I like that in my PG. he's not like anything we have currently on the roster.
It certainly looks that way. I'm just hesitant to expect him to be great so soon. Talent is certainly there, but a freshman is a freshman, and I've learned my lesson regarding expectations.
-
Hopefully between the summer tour and non-conference games he will be ready to play pretty well in BE play but agree we need to have patience with a fr pt g.
-
Hopefully between the summer tour and non-conference games he will be ready to play pretty well in BE play but agree we need to have patience with a fr pt g.
In fairness, the expectations should be on Branch, who was a top 50 recruit.
-
Growing pains for everybody, but Rysheed is the goods. He is another kid that isn't rattled and is a killer. I think he will be a problem for a lot of teams.
-
Hopefully between the summer tour and non-conference games he will be ready to play pretty well in BE play but agree we need to have patience with a fr pt g.
In fairness, the expectations should be on Branch, who was a top 50 recruit.
You are right and further everyone shouldn't be worried about minutes either. Perhaps stats take a hit such as Dee going down to 15 PPG or Jakarr going down to 12 PPG. Stats don't matter for the most part with the exception of shooting percentage or assists to TO ratio. The kids when they come into games need to be productive and play smart basketball.
I would expect Dee and Sampson to get the most minutes followed by Pointer Sanchez Branch Jordan Obekpa and Greene with Hooper and Gift in the rotation as well. Every one of the top 8 should average over 20 minutes a game.
-
Friday's Derby Classic stream;
http://www.hoosiersportsnation.com/index.php?/topic/7726-derby-festival-classic-stream-7pm-et-41913/ (http://www.hoosiersportsnation.com/index.php?/topic/7726-derby-festival-classic-stream-7pm-et-41913/)
-
Lookin good in red and black! I don't remember too many other recruits this happy to be a Johnnie publicly...very nice to see. It shows our brand is stronger than many think.
He just seems like a really passionate kid. Like a leader. I hope he's running our offense this season.
Kid is our PG without a doubt. He has a motor that doesn't stop. It's a great quality. He certainly has the talent, but not all kids have the motor. Rysheed has both and it's rare. The kid is a big time competitor and doesn't want to lose. I like that in my PG. he's not like anything we have currently on the roster.
It certainly looks that way. I'm just hesitant to expect him to be great so soon. Talent is certainly there, but a freshman is a freshman, and I've learned my lesson regarding expectations.
Absolutely true. The difference is he doesn't have to feel the pressure of having to be great. We have a great blend of star power (Karr and D'Lo ), experienced players( Sir, CO,and Phil ) and other new players on which expectations are equally being placed ( Sanchez) to make this a day at the beach experience for Sheed.
-
Lookin good in red and black! I don't remember too many other recruits this happy to be a Johnnie publicly...very nice to see. It shows our brand is stronger than many think.
He just seems like a really passionate kid. Like a leader. I hope he's running our offense this season.
Kid is our PG without a doubt. He has a motor that doesn't stop. It's a great quality. He certainly has the talent, but not all kids have the motor. Rysheed has both and it's rare. The kid is a big time competitor and doesn't want to lose. I like that in my PG. he's not like anything we have currently on the roster.
It certainly looks that way. I'm just hesitant to expect him to be great so soon. Talent is certainly there, but a freshman is a freshman, and I've learned my lesson regarding expectations.
I feel the same way. I'd love for Jordan to step in and takeover pg duties if he's up for it. But he's still just a freshmen.
I posted this on rm but the last 4 recruits ranked #22 were all point guards or combos, Gives us some context for expectations.
2013 Rysheed Jordan. STJ
2012 Marcus Paige UNC
2011 Nick Johnson. Arizona
2010 Kendall Marshall. UNC
-
Lookin good in red and black! I don't remember too many other recruits this happy to be a Johnnie publicly...very nice to see. It shows our brand is stronger than many think.
He just seems like a really passionate kid. Like a leader. I hope he's running our offense this season.
Kid is our PG without a doubt. He has a motor that doesn't stop. It's a great quality. He certainly has the talent, but not all kids have the motor. Rysheed has both and it's rare. The kid is a big time competitor and doesn't want to lose. I like that in my PG. he's not like anything we have currently on the roster.
It certainly looks that way. I'm just hesitant to expect him to be great so soon. Talent is certainly there, but a freshman is a freshman, and I've learned my lesson regarding expectations.
I feel the same way. I'd love for Jordan to step in and takeover pg duties if he's up for it. But he's still just a freshmen.
I posted this on rm but the last 4 recruits ranked #22 were all point guards or combos, Gives us some context for expectations.
2013 Rysheed Jordan. STJ
2012 Marcus Paige UNC
2011 Nick Johnson. Arizona
2010 Kendall Marshall. UNC
Hope he is better than those three guys. Marshall was a good college, pass first PG. Jordan's scoring ability and being able to get into the paint and draw defensemen is what hopefully will set him apart.
-
Friday's Derby Classic stream;
http://www.hoosiersportsnation.com/index.php?/topic/7726-derby-festival-classic-stream-7pm-et-41913/ (http://www.hoosiersportsnation.com/index.php?/topic/7726-derby-festival-classic-stream-7pm-et-41913/)
Can't wait to see what he does. The Derby Classic always has top notch talent. We had a couple kids playing two years ago. I really hope to see him take over and prove he was worthy of a McDonalds nod.
-
Friday's Derby Classic stream;
http://www.hoosiersportsnation.com/index.php?/topic/7726-derby-festival-classic-stream-7pm-et-41913/ (http://www.hoosiersportsnation.com/index.php?/topic/7726-derby-festival-classic-stream-7pm-et-41913/)
Can't wait to see what he does. The Derby Classic always has top notch talent. We had a couple kids playing two years ago. I really hope to see him take over and prove he was worthy of a McDonalds nod.
Like I said, he'll be matching up against Cuse's Ennis. Would love to see him dominate.
-
Lookin good in red and black! I don't remember too many other recruits this happy to be a Johnnie publicly...very nice to see. It shows our brand is stronger than many think.
He just seems like a really passionate kid. Like a leader. I hope he's running our offense this season.
Kid is our PG without a doubt. He has a motor that doesn't stop. It's a great quality. He certainly has the talent, but not all kids have the motor. Rysheed has both and it's rare. The kid is a big time competitor and doesn't want to lose. I like that in my PG. he's not like anything we have currently on the roster.
It certainly looks that way. I'm just hesitant to expect him to be great so soon. Talent is certainly there, but a freshman is a freshman, and I've learned my lesson regarding expectations.
I feel the same way. I'd love for Jordan to step in and takeover pg duties if he's up for it. But he's still just a freshmen.
I posted this on rm but the last 4 recruits ranked #22 were all point guards or combos, Gives us some context for expectations.
2013 Rysheed Jordan. STJ
2012 Marcus Paige UNC
2011 Nick Johnson. Arizona
2010 Kendall Marshall. UNC
Hope he is better than those three guys. Marshall was a good college, pass first PG. Jordan's scoring ability and being able to get into the paint and draw defensemen is what hopefully will set him apart.
I also think this is the best recruiting class of the 4 with the exception perhaps of 2011.
-
Lookin good in red and black! I don't remember too many other recruits this happy to be a Johnnie publicly...very nice to see. It shows our brand is stronger than many think.
He just seems like a really passionate kid. Like a leader. I hope he's running our offense this season.
Kid is our PG without a doubt. He has a motor that doesn't stop. It's a great quality. He certainly has the talent, but not all kids have the motor. Rysheed has both and it's rare. The kid is a big time competitor and doesn't want to lose. I like that in my PG. he's not like anything we have currently on the roster.
It certainly looks that way. I'm just hesitant to expect him to be great so soon. Talent is certainly there, but a freshman is a freshman, and I've learned my lesson regarding expectations.
I feel the same way. I'd love for Jordan to step in and takeover pg duties if he's up for it. But he's still just a freshmen.
I posted this on rm but the last 4 recruits ranked #22 were all point guards or combos, Gives us some context for expectations.
2013 Rysheed Jordan. STJ
2012 Marcus Paige UNC
2011 Nick Johnson. Arizona
2010 Kendall Marshall. UNC
Hope he is better than those three guys. Marshall was a good college, pass first PG. Jordan's scoring ability and being able to get into the paint and draw defensemen is what hopefully will set him apart.
I also think this is the best recruiting class of the 4 with the exception perhaps of 2011.
On paper this is the best and deepest recruiting class, especially at the top.
nbadraft.net currently has NINE guys from this class projected at first round draft picks in 2014! That's insane. That would mean that Rysheed is one of the top 11 players not projected to be one and done.
http://www.nbadraft.net/2014mock_draft (http://www.nbadraft.net/2014mock_draft)
-
Stream of KDF Classic is on now: http://www.wdrb.com/story/21931172/live-stream-derby-festival-classic (http://www.wdrb.com/story/21931172/live-stream-derby-festival-classic)
-
Stream of KDF Classic is on now: http://www.wdrb.com/story/21931172/live-stream-derby-festival-classic (http://www.wdrb.com/story/21931172/live-stream-derby-festival-classic)
https://mobile.twitter.com/SteveJones_CJ (https://mobile.twitter.com/SteveJones_CJ)
Steve Jones of Courier-Journal will be tweeting live all night.
-
Sheed with two assists on fastbreaks. One after a rebound, one after a steal be him.
-
The first thing I hear after tuning in, "and a bucket by Jordan." Music to my ears!
-
Sheed with two assists on fastbreaks. One after a rebound, one after a steal be him.
You can really see that he enjoys passing the ball.
-
Sheed with two assists on fastbreaks. One after a rebound, one after a steal be him.
You can really see that he enjoys passing the ball.
Yeah, he only took one open just inside the three point line pull up jumper (missed it). Other than that 4 nice passes to open shooters, two converted. Needs to box out though. Not much playing time for him so far though.
Other than him I like Frankamp. Hes under control and a good shooter. Jujuan Johnson looks good all around also. Jerrel Martin cleaning up.
-
Sheed with two assists on fastbreaks. One after a rebound, one after a steal be him.
You can really see that he enjoys passing the ball.
Yeah, he only took one open just inside the three point line pull up jumper (missed it). Other than that 4 nice passes to open shooters, two converted. Needs to box out though. Not much playing time for him so far though.
Other than him I like Frankamp. Hes under control and a good shooter. Jujuan Johnson looks good all around also. Jerrel Martin cleaning up.
Frankamp looks unreal. Not only a shooter. Crafty as well.
-
IDK who #2 in white is and I know this is an all star game, but this guy is a chucker and cannot pass.
Jordan with a chuck from three, but other than that looks under control. 4 assists. 3 on fast break.
-
The first thing I hear after tuning in, "and a bucket by Jordan." Music to my ears!
Of course I just turn it on and he throws up a terrible airball from 3 but he does look good in a uniform and ecstatic to have him. :)
-
My link broke. Anyone elses still working?
Nevermind its back.
-
My link broke. Anyone elses still working?
Nevermind its back.
Same happened to me...just refresh it once in a while when it freezes.
-
My link broke. Anyone elses still working?
Nevermind its back.
Same happened to me...just refresh it once in a while when it freezes.
Thanks. Yeah thats what I did too.
-
Jordan has gotten barely any playing time...I thought a 5 star recruit would get a ton. This is apparently a country basketball showcase for L'Ville, Kentucky, Indiana fans.
And just as I type this here he comes lol
-
Jordan has gotten barely any playing time...I thought a 5 star recruit would get a ton. This is apparently a country basketball showcase for L'Ville, Kentucky, Indiana fans.
And just as I type this here he comes lol
They have made wholesale subs every five minutes. Pretty typical
-
Ok, for everyone (mostly angry Temple fans) who said Jordan was a ball hog, I hope they just saw that last play. Jordan had an EASY fast break where 95% of kids would slam it down for a highlight. Instead, he dished it to Frazier to let him get the highlight dunk. It was almost so unselfish that it was a bad play...he reallys hould have taken that himself.
-
Sheed's shot is really off today. Nothing is falling, but he has around 8 assists with the ball not being in his hands much. Keith Frazier is chucking all the shots for the white team with Jordan in the game.
-
IDK who #2 in white is and I know this is an all star game, but this guy is a chucker and cannot pass.
Jordan with a chuck from three, but other than that looks under control. 4 assists. 3 on fast break.
Jeesh you are not kidding. Pass the ball young man. Hell be playing for SMU next year.
-
IDK who #2 in white is and I know this is an all star game, but this guy is a chucker and cannot pass.
Jordan with a chuck from three, but other than that looks under control. 4 assists. 3 on fast break.
Jeesh you are not kidding. Pass the ball young man. Hell be playing for SMU next year.
Good for him. He'll have plenty of shots to shoot then. ;D
-
Some observations for the future Derby Classics: I understand it's based in Kentucky so there will be biases...even intentional...but if they want this to get bigger, they need to stop only talking country kids and country schools. Ignoring the NYC, Philly, etc. metro areas is stupid. Jordan has racked up assists all day...we know he can dish. What I want to see now is his scoring ability. Passing is great, but there will be plenty of times Jordan will need to be the one to get to the rim.
-
Some observations for the future Derby Classics: I understand it's based in Kentucky so there will be biases...even intentional...but if they want this to get bigger, they need to stop only talking country kids and country schools. Ignoring the NYC, Philly, etc. metro areas is stupid. Jordan has racked up assists all day...we know he can dish. What I want to see now is his scoring ability. Passing is great, but there will be plenty of times Jordan will need to be the one to get to the rim.
From the games I've seen of him those shots usually fall for him. He really is a very good player.
-
This Martin kid is a monster...can't even imagine once he puts tons of muscle on...where is he going?
-
We really recruited some studs this year. Jerrel Martin just hit a three and was really cleaning up rebounds and finishing inside.
-
This Martin kid is a monster...can't even imagine once he puts tons of muscle on...where is he going?
LSU. We were on him.
-
I like Jujuan Johnson's game. This guy is all over the court.
-
Whenever there is a steal by the white team, Jordan is always ready for a fast break and I get excited, then some player coughs it back up to the black team -__-
Ennis is going to be yet another monster for Cuse
-
Whenever there is a steal by the white team, Jordan is always ready for a fast break and I get excited, then some player coughs it back up to the black team -__-
Ennis is going to be yet another monster for Cuse
Ennis really does look good. He'll get the keys to the car right away.
-
you guys are hardcore.. Zoned in on this Boston shit-show and harvey/Strasburg
-
you guys are hardcore.. Zoned in on this Boston shit-show and harvey/Strasburg
One on TV one on computer beer in hand. Multi task boo, multi task.
-
Whenever there is a steal by the white team, Jordan is always ready for a fast break and I get excited, then some player coughs it back up to the black team -__-
Ennis is going to be yet another monster for Cuse
Ennis really does look good. He'll get the keys to the car right away.
Yeah looks good. Too bad. I want Cuse to have a down period right about now.
-
you guys are hardcore.. Zoned in on this Boston shit-show and harvey/Strasburg
One on TV one on computer beer in hand. Multi task boo, multi task.
Same minus beer. I don't watch baseball anymore.
-
Came back on. Couple of nice passes but missed the 3 shots I saw him take and a few sloppy turnovers but game itself was ragged and a chuck fest. He was in a pass first mode. Can't really take anything away from this game on a judgment standpoint but he does look smooth.
-
Came back on. Couple of nice passes but missed the 3 shots I saw him take and a few sloppy turnovers but game itself was ragged and a chuck fest. He was in a pass first mode. Can't really take anything away from this game on a judgment standpoint but he does look smooth.
Agree. Still good to see. Game was competitive for the most part.
-
The first thing I hear after tuning in, "and a bucket by Jordan." Music to my ears!
Of course I just turn it on and he throws up a terrible airball from 3 but he does look good in a uniform and ecstatic to have him. :)
Mush
-
I was watching for Jordan on the laptop, Harvey outdueling Strasburg (awesome) on SNY, and posting on here. Multitasking can be done haha
As I type HOME RUN IKE DAVIS!
-
Kid looked great in the open court. Great athlete and passer. He didn't look to score much at all tonight. He facilitated a ton on the break. He missed a few shots, but didn't take many and the ones he did take we're a bit lazy much like any all star game. Defense isn't something you'll see in an all star game either so can't judge there. Kid will be grest for us and exactly what we need.
-
I was at the Mets game, didn't see the Derby.
How did his handle look? And even though he was looking to dish, did he penetrate? We've heard a lot about rysheed's ability to get to the lane, any evidenc of that tonight?
-
I was at the Mets game, didn't see the Derby.
How did his handle look? And even though he was looking to dish, did he penetrate? We've heard a lot about rysheed's ability to get to the lane, any evidenc of that tonight?
Handle looked good, forced a couple of penetrations and turned it over. Only saw last 6-7 minutes of the first half and all of the second. Wait for mcnpa to weigh in as he will probably say he planned the turnovers as part of some reverse strategy or something. :) ;) But hey it is great to have him and he still looks like a thoroughbred.
-
I was at the Mets game, didn't see the Derby.
How did his handle look? And even though he was looking to dish, did he penetrate? We've heard a lot about rysheed's ability to get to the lane, any evidenc of that tonight?
He really didn't try to penetrate or score much during the game. Most of his assists came on fast breaks and on the perimeter but were impressive none the less. The most impressive thing to me was how unselfish he was. Only took about 4-5 shots and gave up a lot of easy looks for his teammates.
-
Not sure if this is true, but it definitely appeared to me that they had the country kids playing a lot more. It seemed to be a very locally-oriented thing, so Jordan barely saw any time as it was. In the little time he was out there, he missed all his shots, including an air-ball from 3 (or a long 2). He showed athleticism, great court vision, and very good passing ability. He had a few fast break opportunities, but he was very humble and always looked to dish instead of finish with a monster dunk. I was actually surprised given that the kid is a 25 PPG scorer...you would think he'd want to score a bit. He was so selfless it almost made me concerned.
IMO he had a few last second unnecessary passes when he was wide open on a fast break with no one between him and the hoop. It's one of those things that makes you say, "Why pass it? Just take it yourself...". In a real game an unnecessary last second pass can result in a turnover instead of a sure 2 or 3 points. Love to see his humbleness, but he needs to be aggressive for us and penetrate. I think we need him to score more than we need him to pass. Just my 2 cents.
-
Not sure if this is true, but it definitely appeared to me that they had the country kids playing a lot more. It seemed to be a very locally-oriented thing, so Jordan barely saw any time as it was. In the little time he was out there, he missed all his shots, including an air-ball from 3 (or a long 2). He showed athleticism, great court vision, and very good passing ability. He had a few fast break opportunities, but he was very humble and always looked to dish instead of finish with a monster dunk. I was actually surprised given that the kid is a 25 PPG scorer...you would think he'd want to score a bit. He was so selfless it almost made me concerned.
IMO he had a few last second unnecessary passes when he was wide open on a fast break with no one between him and the hoop. It's one of those things that makes you say, "Why pass it? Just take it yourself...". In a real game an unnecessary last second pass can result in a turnover instead of a sure 2 or 3 points. Love to see his humbleness, but he needs to be aggressive for us and penetrate. I think we need him to score more than we need him to pass. Just my 2 cents.
He played have the game. There was 12 people on each team. No one got much more minutes than anyone else.
-
His coach said the difference in Jordan's game when comparing his freshmen year to his senior, was as a freshmen he looked to pass a lot. As he grew, he got into the leader role and took scoring upon himself. This is good for us because we could get 2-4 years out of him if he passes more early in his career.
-
Pretty much what everyone said. Had about 8 assists (but no points) with the ball not being in his hands a lot. Keith Frazier was taking every shot when they were in the game. He did look good in transition making some nice passes. Forced a couple of things and his shot was off yesterday, but still looked good moving around and getting the ball out quickly and accurately to open players. Underrated trait imo.
-
Thanks for the reports guys.
-
Stats for the game:
http://basketball.realgm.com/highschool/derby_classic/Stats (http://basketball.realgm.com/highschool/derby_classic/Stats)
Rysheed had by far the most assists (9 assists, with the next most being 4) and apparently scored 2 points (shot 1-5). 1 steal, 3 rebounds also in 18:00 which was about average (little bit less than average). He was in pass mode basically. Nothing much you can take out of this game.
-
Stats for the game:
http://basketball.realgm.com/highschool/derby_classic/Stats (http://basketball.realgm.com/highschool/derby_classic/Stats)
Rysheed had by far the most assists (9 assists, with the next most being 4) and apparently scored 2 points (shot 1-5). 1 steal, 3 rebounds also in 18:00 which was about average (little bit less than average). He was in pass mode basically. Nothing much you can take out of this game.
He will be our PG. His assists are the best thing we can take away from the game. A facilitator first, scorer second is what we want.
-
Stats for the game:
http://basketball.realgm.com/highschool/derby_classic/Stats (http://basketball.realgm.com/highschool/derby_classic/Stats)
Rysheed had by far the most assists (9 assists, with the next most being 4) and apparently scored 2 points (shot 1-5). 1 steal, 3 rebounds also in 18:00 which was about average (little bit less than average). He was in pass mode basically. Nothing much you can take out of this game.
9 assists and 3 rebs from a pg in EIGHTEEN minutes of action? My friend there is MUCH you can take from that. Lavin played Phil 33 mintues a game this past season and got 2.6 assists and 2.7 rebs. NO ONE on the St. Johns roster had 9 assists in a game last year. Our facilitators got 6 or more only 7 times all season. :)
-
Stats for the game:
http://basketball.realgm.com/highschool/derby_classic/Stats (http://basketball.realgm.com/highschool/derby_classic/Stats)
Rysheed had by far the most assists (9 assists, with the next most being 4) and apparently scored 2 points (shot 1-5). 1 steal, 3 rebounds also in 18:00 which was about average (little bit less than average). He was in pass mode basically. Nothing much you can take out of this game.
9 assists and 3 rebs from a pg in EIGHTEEN minutes of action? My friend there is MUCH you can take from that. Lavin played Phil 33 mintues a game this past season and got 2.6 assists and 2.7 rebs. NO ONE on the St. Johns roster had 9 assists in a game last year. Our facilitators got 6 or more only 7 times all season. :)
I hear you, but its an all star game though and I for one knew he could pass. But I agree his impact on this team will be huge.
-
Stats for the game:
http://basketball.realgm.com/highschool/derby_classic/Stats (http://basketball.realgm.com/highschool/derby_classic/Stats)
Rysheed had by far the most assists (9 assists, with the next most being 4) and apparently scored 2 points (shot 1-5). 1 steal, 3 rebounds also in 18:00 which was about average (little bit less than average). He was in pass mode basically. Nothing much you can take out of this game.
9 assists and 3 rebs from a pg in EIGHTEEN minutes of action? My friend there is MUCH you can take from that. Lavin played Phil 33 mintues a game this past season and got 2.6 assists and 2.7 rebs. NO ONE on the St. Johns roster had 9 assists in a game last year. Our facilitators got 6 or more only 7 times all season. :)
I hear you, but its an all star game though and I for one knew he could pass. But I agree his impact on this team will be huge.
9 is an exceptional number for an All Star game - to do it in 18 minutes is staggering. For instance, Kasey Hill had 1 in the McD Game, Harrison had 4. Looking back at the major HS All Star games the last 3 years (McD, Jordan Brand, Hoop Summit, Deby Classic) - no one BUT Rysheed has totaled 9 assists. Kyle Anderson at the McD last year with 8 came closest. The last I could find to exceed it was at the Hoop Summit in 2009 - some kid named John Wall got 11 - but he played 30 minutes. :)
-
9 is an exceptional number for an All Star game - to do it in 18 minutes is staggering. For instance, Kasey Hill had 1 in the McD Game, Harrison had 4. Looking back at the major HS All Star games the last 3 years (McD, Jordan Brand, Hoop Summit, Deby Classic) - no one BUT Rysheed has totaled 9 assists. Kyle Anderson at the McD last year with 8 came closest. The last I could find to exceed it was at the Hoop Summit in 2009 - some kid named John Wall got 11 - but he played 30 minutes. :)
I agree its fantastic, but could there be a correlation between those guys mostly looking to score in this type of atmosphere while RJ was looking to pass? Not discrediting his work at all and that is a great # for the minutes he got but it is after all an all star game where guys are mainly throwing up shots as soon as the ball touches their hands and defense isn't a major factor. I just personally never take these games seriously. Maybe thats on me.
Ps. that is a fantastic stat crgreen and you never fail to amaze me.
-
Tells me he's a pass first PG. Appears to be a really good one-just what the doctor ordered.
-
Stats for the game:
http://basketball.realgm.com/highschool/derby_classic/Stats (http://basketball.realgm.com/highschool/derby_classic/Stats)
Rysheed had by far the most assists (9 assists, with the next most being 4) and apparently scored 2 points (shot 1-5). 1 steal, 3 rebounds also in 18:00 which was about average (little bit less than average). He was in pass mode basically. Nothing much you can take out of this game.
9 assists and 3 rebs from a pg in EIGHTEEN minutes of action? My friend there is MUCH you can take from that. Lavin played Phil 33 mintues a game this past season and got 2.6 assists and 2.7 rebs. NO ONE on the St. Johns roster had 9 assists in a game last year. Our facilitators got 6 or more only 7 times all season. :)
Disagree. It was an all-star game-no defense. Many of his assists were on 3 on nothing fast breaks, or a simple perimeter pass for a long 3. Not much you can take away from THIS game despite the gaudy stats. That's not to say he isn't the second coming of Magic, Isaiah, or other such diety.
-
Forget about the stats for a second, I would love Jordan to be able to create by driving and either scoring or dishing. We have lacked a guard being able to beat his man off dribble. Hopefully Jordan is that guard freeing up men for the kick out with the weak side help coming to have to guard him. Plus being able to get the lane makes one of the big men for other team to leave his post, freeing up a weak side rebound or dish off to a big for an easy bucket. He can make guys like hopper, Marco and Gift play to their strengths of an open uncontested three or a an easy dump off to Gift for a layup.
-
Forget about the stats for a second, I would love Jordan to be able to create by driving and either scoring or dishing. We have lacked a guard being able to beat his man off dribble. Hopefully Jordan is that guard freeing up men for the kick out with the weak side help coming to have to guard him. Plus being able to get the lane makes one of the big men for other team to leave his post, freeing up a weak side rebound or dish off to a big for an easy bucket. He can make guys like hopper, Marco and Gift play to their strengths of an open uncontested three or a an easy dump off to Gift for a layup.
^^ Bingo
-
Excitement abounds and wit good cause.
But lets remember that PG is the hardest position to master in D1 ball. We only had one frosh who excelled from day one: EB.
Just sayin hope fo the best but keep them expectation in perspective.
-
Excitement abounds and wit good cause.
But lets remember that PG is the hardest position to master in D1 ball. We only had one frosh who excelled from day one: EB.
Just sayin hope fo the best but keep them expectation in perspective.
How do you say El Savior in Philadelphian?
-
Excitement abounds and wit good cause.
But lets remember that PG is the hardest position to master in D1 ball. We only had one frosh who excelled from day one: EB.
Just sayin hope fo the best but keep them expectation in perspective.
Cook?
-
Excitement abounds and wit good cause.
But lets remember that PG is the hardest position to master in D1 ball. We only had one frosh who excelled from day one: EB.
Just sayin hope fo the best but keep them expectation in perspective.
Cook?
I thought Cook was terrific as a freshman. He had a supporting cast of guys who dramatically overrated, out of shape and injury prone. Plus a coach who wasn't very nice.
-
Excitement abounds and wit good cause.
But lets remember that PG is the hardest position to master in D1 ball. We only had one frosh who excelled from day one: EB.
Just sayin hope fo the best but keep them expectation in perspective.
How do you say El Savior in Philadelphian?
cheesesteak
-
Excitement abounds and wit good cause.
But lets remember that PG is the hardest position to master in D1 ball. We only had one frosh who excelled from day one: EB.
Just sayin hope fo the best but keep them expectation in perspective.
Choz, no love for Omar ?
-
I agree, the toughest position is the pg next to a true center, but if lavin visioned yr 3 to be the yr we make the big step, the players next to Jordan should be able to make him a better player as is he, going to make them better.
-
April 28; Ish Wainright playing as well.
The Capital Classic is the longest-running high school all-star basketball game in the country.
Several of the nation's top players will participate in this year's event.
Joining Johnson on the U.S. squad will be recent St. John's commit Rysheed Jordan (Voux,Phila,Pa /St,John's), Pittsburgh recruit Mike Young (St. Benedict's Prep/Newark, N.J.) and Florida State recruit Xavier Rathan-Mayes (Huntington Prep,Huntington, W. Va.) among several others.
The Capital All-Star team includes North Carolina State recruit BeeJay Anya (DeMatha) and a pair of Villanova commits in Josh Hart (Sidwell Friends) and Kris Jenkins (Gonzaga).
http://www.dcbasketball.com/index.php (http://www.dcbasketball.com/index.php)
-
All Discussion of Barkley and Cook has been moved to its own thread on the main board. Please keep this thread on the topic of Rysheed only
-
Lot of great players;
“@MarcusHelton: Capital Classic Rosters | DMVelite | http://dmvelite.com/news/capital-classic-rosters-released#.UXaHWI3mDQ0.twitter (http://dmvelite.com/news/capital-classic-rosters-released#.UXaHWI3mDQ0.twitter) @TakingFlight_23 @TeamNike_Hart @Wainright24 @Quis_Jurell @ShowMeLoveStan”
-
Excitement abounds and wit good cause.
But lets remember that PG is the hardest position to master in D1 ball. We only had one frosh who excelled from day one: EB.
Just sayin hope fo the best but keep them expectation in perspective.
Omar Cook excelled from day 1, imo.
-
https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/540037_421444107952587_330812607_n.jpg
-
Excitement abounds and wit good cause.
But lets remember that PG is the hardest position to master in D1 ball. We only had one frosh who excelled from day one: EB.
Just sayin hope fo the best but keep them expectation in perspective.
Omar Cook excelled from day 1, imo.
Kentucky. Remember what he did to Saul Smith?
-
https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/540037_421444107952587_330812607_n.jpg
I think you made a mistake redmen. This is the Omar Cook thread I believe.
-
April 28; Ish Wainright playing as well.
The Capital Classic is the longest-running high school all-star basketball game in the country.
Several of the nation's top players will participate in this year's event.
Joining Johnson on the U.S. squad will be recent St. John's commit Rysheed Jordan (Voux,Phila,Pa /St,John's), Pittsburgh recruit Mike Young (St. Benedict's Prep/Newark, N.J.) and Florida State recruit Xavier Rathan-Mayes (Huntington Prep,Huntington, W. Va.) among several others.
The Capital All-Star team includes North Carolina State recruit BeeJay Anya (DeMatha) and a pair of Villanova commits in Josh Hart (Sidwell Friends) and Kris Jenkins (Gonzaga).
http://www.dcbasketball.com/index.php (http://www.dcbasketball.com/index.php)
I'll be at the game again this year. I'll give my review of Rysheed and some of the other players. Kris Jenkins will be the MVP, raining threes from all over the arc.
-
It appears that Jordan and two other players were not there. This once respected tourney has really gone down. Once played at Capital Center, it is now held at a HS facility.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/recruiting-insider/wp/2013/04/29/capital-classic-news-and-notes-from-the-40th-annual-all-star-game/ (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/recruiting-insider/wp/2013/04/29/capital-classic-news-and-notes-from-the-40th-annual-all-star-game/)
-
It appears that Jordan and two other players were not there. This once respected tourney has really gone down. Once played at Capital Center, it is now held at a HS facility.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/recruiting-insider/wp/2013/04/29/capital-classic-news-and-notes-from-the-40th-annual-all-star-game/ (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/recruiting-insider/wp/2013/04/29/capital-classic-news-and-notes-from-the-40th-annual-all-star-game/)
I remember that Tourney in the late 80's. As a High School All-American game it was rivaled only by the McD's AA.
I remember the famous class of 1988, considered by many to be one of the great high school class of all time: Mourning, Billy Owens, Laettner, Malik Sealy, Chris Jackson. They all were in the Capital Classic played at the old Cap Center in Landover where the then Washignton Bullets (now Wizards), Capitals and Hoyas use to play.
Now I think the Jordan Classic has sort of surpassed the CC as the "other" premiere high school AA game.
-
The Dapper Dan Roundball Classic was another good one if I recall correctly. Was definitely televised and I remember some big names in there. Not sure if it even exists anymore.
-
It appears that Jordan and two other players were not there. This once respected tourney has really gone down. Once played at Capital Center, it is now held at a HS facility.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/recruiting-insider/wp/2013/04/29/capital-classic-news-and-notes-from-the-40th-annual-all-star-game/ (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/recruiting-insider/wp/2013/04/29/capital-classic-news-and-notes-from-the-40th-annual-all-star-game/)
I remember that Tourney in the late 80's. As a High School All-American game it was rivaled only by the McD's AA.
I remember the famous class of 1988, considered by many to be one of the great high school class of all time: Mourning, Billy Owens, Laettner, Malik Sealy, Chris Jackson. They all were in the Capital Classic played at the old Cap Center in Landover where the then Washignton Bullets (now Wizards), Capitals and Hoyas use to play.
Now I think the Jordan Classic has sort of surpassed the CC as the "other" premiere high school AA game.
Robert Werdann too!
http://articles.philly.com/1988-04-14/sports/26254261_1_temple-program-temple-university-great-expectations (http://articles.philly.com/1988-04-14/sports/26254261_1_temple-program-temple-university-great-expectations)
-
It appears that Jordan and two other players were not there. This once respected tourney has really gone down. Once played at Capital Center, it is now held at a HS facility.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/recruiting-insider/wp/2013/04/29/capital-classic-news-and-notes-from-the-40th-annual-all-star-game/ (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/recruiting-insider/wp/2013/04/29/capital-classic-news-and-notes-from-the-40th-annual-all-star-game/)
The fact that it is held at a High School is not for the reason you indicated. It was originally switched to high schools in the area from Cole Field house because it was thought to give a recruiting advantage for schools to host it on campus.
I was at the Cap Classic from the 90s on through to last year, missing some along the way to other commitments. But I did see LeBron James play at the Verizon Center in 2003, all the Terps recruits last year, as well as many future local HS players committed to the Terps when they played in the 90s.
Last year's classic at TC Williams was a blast. All the Terps commits (5 at the time - SC Jr got Prop Joe'd since then) took photos for Terps fans, and Montrez Harrell was a lot of fun to watch. I was looking forward to Rysheed playing, but alas....
-
It appears that Jordan and two other players were not there. This once respected tourney has really gone down. Once played at Capital Center, it is now held at a HS facility.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/recruiting-insider/wp/2013/04/29/capital-classic-news-and-notes-from-the-40th-annual-all-star-game/ (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/recruiting-insider/wp/2013/04/29/capital-classic-news-and-notes-from-the-40th-annual-all-star-game/)
The fact that it is held at a High School is not for the reason you indicated. It was originally switched to high schools in the area from Cole Field house because it was thought to give a recruiting advantage for schools to host it on campus.
I was at the Cap Classic from the 90s on through to last year, missing some along the way to other commitments. But I did see LeBron James play at the Verizon Center in 2003, all the Terps recruits last year, as well as many future local HS players committed to the Terps when they played in the 90s.
Last year's classic at TC Williams was a blast. All the Terps commits (5 at the time - SC Jr got Prop Joe'd since then) took photos for Terps fans, and Montrez Harrell was a lot of fun to watch. I was looking forward to Rysheed playing, but alas....
Ive seen every episode of the Wire multiple times, but I still can't figure out what you mean when you say a guy was Prop Joe'd. Little help?
-
A lot of optimism here...anyone concerned about him qualifying?
-
A lot of optimism here...anyone concerned about him qualifying?
Come on! Have we ever had such problems?
-
A lot of optimism here...anyone concerned about him qualifying?
Please don't take this wrong - but UCLA was sure they could get him past THEIR admissions office - so I'm not concerned in the least.
-
CR, hope you're right.
-
Does anyone know where Rysheed is spending the summer? When is he getting to St.John's??
-
Does anyone know where Rysheed is spending the summer? When is he getting to St.John's??
He'll be here next month
-
I thought Joe's point about the law of probability was that we would get a recruit qualified without a hiccup. Not much to attack him for.
I'm going to enjoy the summer, and deal with the unexpected bad news this fall.
-
Espn has Jordan as #17 in country, #3 PG
-
Espn has Jordan as #17 in country, #3 PG
Not sure I remember a kid who has climbed this high this late in his high school career. Usually your position is locked by the end of the AAU season after your Junior year. The kind of impact Rysheed's senior year of HIGH SCHOOL has had is like a throwback to the old days of recruiting....
-
Jermaine Lawrence is #35
Jared Sina #91
John Severe Not in top 100
-
From Telep's "10 Toughest Calls"
4. Rysheed Jordan’s position among the elite
One of most drama-filled recruitments of the year belonged to the best prospect out of Philly, point guard Rysheed Jordan. Jordan’s rise was well-documented this season as he added the distribution skills to an already-impressive array of drives and his size at 6-foot-4. There’s an element of both potential and production with his ranking as the No. 3 point guard and No. 17 overall recruit. It was encouraging to see him have such an outstanding senior season coming off the summer of 2012, which didn’t meet his standards. The two most improved point guards this season were Jordan and fifth-year (so not eligible for the rankings) Louisville-bound Terry Rozier.
http://insider.espn.go.com/blog/dave-telep/post?id=3507 (http://insider.espn.go.com/blog/dave-telep/post?id=3507)
-
From Telep's "10 Toughest Calls"
4. Rysheed Jordan’s position among the elite
One of most drama-filled recruitments of the year belonged to the best prospect out of Philly, point guard Rysheed Jordan. Jordan’s rise was well-documented this season as he added the distribution skills to an already-impressive array of drives and his size at 6-foot-4. There’s an element of both potential and production with his ranking as the No. 3 point guard and No. 17 overall recruit. It was encouraging to see him have such an outstanding senior season coming off the summer of 2012, which didn’t meet his standards. The two most improved point guards this season were Jordan and fifth-year (so not eligible for the rankings) Louisville-bound Terry Rozier.
http://insider.espn.go.com/blog/dave-telep/post?id=3507 (http://insider.espn.go.com/blog/dave-telep/post?id=3507)
Interesting. Rozier committed to Louisville in 2011 - when he was a 4 star recruit, and listed as anywhere from the 12th to 15th PG in the class. Scout now has him as a 5 star, the #3 in the class. What's intersting, is that Pitino was able to sign JC transfer Chris Jones - two time first team JC All American, and this year's JC player of the year - a 5'10 PG. With Russ Smith, Wayne Blackshear and Kevin Ware back at the guard spots, and Rozier AND his 4star Hargrave backcourt mate Anton Gill joining the mix as frosh - seems like a bad choice for a kid like Jones, with only 2 years of eligibility remaining. There are any number of top schools where he could have stepped into guaranteed minutes at the 1....
Given his size Russ Smith's future (if any) at the next level is going to have to be at PG - you have to think, in agreeing to come back this season, some promises were made - at least backup minutes at the PG spot.
-
From Telep's "10 Toughest Calls"
4. Rysheed Jordan’s position among the elite
One of most drama-filled recruitments of the year belonged to the best prospect out of Philly, point guard Rysheed Jordan. Jordan’s rise was well-documented this season as he added the distribution skills to an already-impressive array of drives and his size at 6-foot-4. There’s an element of both potential and production with his ranking as the No. 3 point guard and No. 17 overall recruit. It was encouraging to see him have such an outstanding senior season coming off the summer of 2012, which didn’t meet his standards. The two most improved point guards this season were Jordan and fifth-year (so not eligible for the rankings) Louisville-bound Terry Rozier.
http://insider.espn.go.com/blog/dave-telep/post?id=3507 (http://insider.espn.go.com/blog/dave-telep/post?id=3507)
Interesting. Rozier committed to Louisville in 2011 - when he was a 4 star recruit, and listed as anywhere from the 12th to 15th PG in the class. Scout now has him as a 5 star, the #3 in the class. What's intersting, is that Pitino was able to sign JC transfer Chris Jones - two time first team JC All American, and this year's JC player of the year - a 5'10 PG. With Russ Smith, Wayne Blackshear and Kevin Ware back at the guard spots, and Rozier AND his 4star Hargrave backcourt mate Anton Gill joining the mix as frosh - seems like a bad choice for a kid like Jones, with only 2 years of eligibility remaining. There are any number of top schools where he could have stepped into guaranteed minutes at the 1....
Given his size Russ Smith's future (if any) at the next level is going to have to be at PG - you have to think, in agreeing to come back this season, some promises were made - at least backup minutes at the PG spot.
Several scouts believe that Chris Jones is not simply the best JUCO PG coming in but the best PG coming in regardless of high school or JUCO period.
-
From Telep's "10 Toughest Calls"
4. Rysheed Jordan’s position among the elite
One of most drama-filled recruitments of the year belonged to the best prospect out of Philly, point guard Rysheed Jordan. Jordan’s rise was well-documented this season as he added the distribution skills to an already-impressive array of drives and his size at 6-foot-4. There’s an element of both potential and production with his ranking as the No. 3 point guard and No. 17 overall recruit. It was encouraging to see him have such an outstanding senior season coming off the summer of 2012, which didn’t meet his standards. The two most improved point guards this season were Jordan and fifth-year (so not eligible for the rankings) Louisville-bound Terry Rozier.
http://insider.espn.go.com/blog/dave-telep/post?id=3507 (http://insider.espn.go.com/blog/dave-telep/post?id=3507)
Interesting. Rozier committed to Louisville in 2011 - when he was a 4 star recruit, and listed as anywhere from the 12th to 15th PG in the class. Scout now has him as a 5 star, the #3 in the class. What's intersting, is that Pitino was able to sign JC transfer Chris Jones - two time first team JC All American, and this year's JC player of the year - a 5'10 PG. With Russ Smith, Wayne Blackshear and Kevin Ware back at the guard spots, and Rozier AND his 4star Hargrave backcourt mate Anton Gill joining the mix as frosh - seems like a bad choice for a kid like Jones, with only 2 years of eligibility remaining. There are any number of top schools where he could have stepped into guaranteed minutes at the 1....
Given his size Russ Smith's future (if any) at the next level is going to have to be at PG - you have to think, in agreeing to come back this season, some promises were made - at least backup minutes at the PG spot.
Several scouts believe that Chris Jones is not simply the best JUCO PG coming in but the best PG coming in regardless of high school or JUCO period.
Well he's a Jr so yeah I'd give him the leg up on freshman. Plus its not like he was a late bloomer. He was Top 50 kid out of HS who didnt have the grades.
-
From Telep's "10 Toughest Calls"
4. Rysheed Jordan’s position among the elite
One of most drama-filled recruitments of the year belonged to the best prospect out of Philly, point guard Rysheed Jordan. Jordan’s rise was well-documented this season as he added the distribution skills to an already-impressive array of drives and his size at 6-foot-4. There’s an element of both potential and production with his ranking as the No. 3 point guard and No. 17 overall recruit. It was encouraging to see him have such an outstanding senior season coming off the summer of 2012, which didn’t meet his standards. The two most improved point guards this season were Jordan and fifth-year (so not eligible for the rankings) Louisville-bound Terry Rozier.
http://insider.espn.go.com/blog/dave-telep/post?id=3507 (http://insider.espn.go.com/blog/dave-telep/post?id=3507)
Interesting. Rozier committed to Louisville in 2011 - when he was a 4 star recruit, and listed as anywhere from the 12th to 15th PG in the class. Scout now has him as a 5 star, the #3 in the class. What's intersting, is that Pitino was able to sign JC transfer Chris Jones - two time first team JC All American, and this year's JC player of the year - a 5'10 PG. With Russ Smith, Wayne Blackshear and Kevin Ware back at the guard spots, and Rozier AND his 4star Hargrave backcourt mate Anton Gill joining the mix as frosh - seems like a bad choice for a kid like Jones, with only 2 years of eligibility remaining. There are any number of top schools where he could have stepped into guaranteed minutes at the 1....
Given his size Russ Smith's future (if any) at the next level is going to have to be at PG - you have to think, in agreeing to come back this season, some promises were made - at least backup minutes at the PG spot.
Several scouts believe that Chris Jones is not simply the best JUCO PG coming in but the best PG coming in regardless of high school or JUCO period.
Well he's a Jr so yeah I'd give him the leg up on freshman. Plus its not like he was a late bloomer. He was Top 50 kid out of HS who didnt have the grades.
Out of high school, Chris was ranked as the 12 PG in che class, behind Marques Teague, Myke Kabongo, Josiah Turner, BJ Young, Jahii Carson, Quinn Cook, Shannon Scott, Jamal Branch, Tyrone Johnson, Chasson Randle and Tyrone Adams by Scout.Com. (and behind all but Randle and Adams in the RSCI rankings).
Terry Rozier is ranked as Scout's #3 this year, behind only Andrew Harrison and Kasey Hill.
I agree, Jones is exceptional. From the highlights and one full game I've seen, he plays like Jahii Carson Lite. But it's against JC competition. He could be good, or he could be great. There's a good chance Rozier at Hargrave with their elite prep schedule, played with better talent and against SUPERIOR opposition than Jones did at his JC in Florida.
-
From Telep's "10 Toughest Calls"
4. Rysheed Jordan’s position among the elite
One of most drama-filled recruitments of the year belonged to the best prospect out of Philly, point guard Rysheed Jordan. Jordan’s rise was well-documented this season as he added the distribution skills to an already-impressive array of drives and his size at 6-foot-4. There’s an element of both potential and production with his ranking as the No. 3 point guard and No. 17 overall recruit. It was encouraging to see him have such an outstanding senior season coming off the summer of 2012, which didn’t meet his standards. The two most improved point guards this season were Jordan and fifth-year (so not eligible for the rankings) Louisville-bound Terry Rozier.
http://insider.espn.go.com/blog/dave-telep/post?id=3507 (http://insider.espn.go.com/blog/dave-telep/post?id=3507)
Interesting. Rozier committed to Louisville in 2011 - when he was a 4 star recruit, and listed as anywhere from the 12th to 15th PG in the class. Scout now has him as a 5 star, the #3 in the class. What's intersting, is that Pitino was able to sign JC transfer Chris Jones - two time first team JC All American, and this year's JC player of the year - a 5'10 PG. With Russ Smith, Wayne Blackshear and Kevin Ware back at the guard spots, and Rozier AND his 4star Hargrave backcourt mate Anton Gill joining the mix as frosh - seems like a bad choice for a kid like Jones, with only 2 years of eligibility remaining. There are any number of top schools where he could have stepped into guaranteed minutes at the 1....
Given his size Russ Smith's future (if any) at the next level is going to have to be at PG - you have to think, in agreeing to come back this season, some promises were made - at least backup minutes at the PG spot.
Several scouts believe that Chris Jones is not simply the best JUCO PG coming in but the best PG coming in regardless of high school or JUCO period.
Well he's a Jr so yeah I'd give him the leg up on freshman. Plus its not like he was a late bloomer. He was Top 50 kid out of HS who didnt have the grades.
Well experience helps but even with experience that means he is better then Harrison among others. That is still saying a lot.
Also means he will be able to step in for Siva without missing a beat for Ville.
Again it is an aggressive goal but at some point I hope SJU is recruiting like that and helps carry the new league.
-
Alright enough Joe talk, let's keep this on Rysheed.
-
Alright enough Joe talk, let's keep this on Rysheed.
Still just jazzed that Lavin and SJU have landed what is now EPSN's #17 recruit in the entire 2013 class (and Rivals/Yahoo's #20), and how IMPORTANT that is going forward in recruiting. When I first started posting here 3 years ago, I preached about changing the "mindset". This was a school with 2 top 100 recruits in the previous 6 years. One that had't had a 50 recruit in a decade. Now our roster has a PG who was ESPN's #17 recruit (Rysheed). An SG who was Prepstars #28 recruit (D'Lo). An SF who was Dave Teleps #24 recruit (Sir Dom). A PF who was Teleps #31 recruit (Jakarr). A Center who was Van Colemans #50 Recruit (Oblockpa).
Maybe being late to the game, I'm misreading this, but it seems to me our SECOND TEAM would be higher ranked on potential than most of the talent here the decade before the coaching change: 2nd string Point Guard who was Scout.Com's #41 recruit (Jamal). 2nd string SG who was a borderline top 100 player and a 2 year starter at D! (Phil). A 2nd string PF who was a JC All American (Sanchez). A 2nd string Post who was a JC All American who's already put up a 10/6 season in the big East (Gift). Two pure shooters at the SF/SF spots in Bourgalt and Hooper. A potentially outstanding sleeper at the 2/3 in Balamou. And an intriguing athletic enigma at PF in Christian Jones.
But with all that, the #17 ranking is huge - we've cracked the top 20 barrier. Next year, should we try to close in on a Diamond Stone, or an Ivan Rabb, or a Thomas Bryant, or a Jessie Govan, no one's going to laugh and say "those guys are too high ranked for St. Johns"....And more important than recruiting geeks thinking that, it'll be some of those RECRUITS taking us seriously.
-
Alright enough Joe talk, let's keep this on Rysheed.
Still just jazzed that Lavin and SJU have landed what is now EPSN's #17 recruit in the entire 2013 class (and Rivals/Yahoo's #20), and how IMPORTANT that is going forward in recruiting. When I first started posting here 3 years ago, I preached about changing the "mindset". This was a school with 2 top 100 recruits in the previous 6 years. One that had't had a 50 recruit in a decade. Now our roster has a PG who was ESPN's #17 recruit (Rysheed). An SG who was Prepstars #28 recruit (D'Lo). An SF who was Dave Teleps #24 recruit (Sir Dom). A PF who was Teleps #31 recruit (Jakarr). A Center who was Van Colemans #50 Recruit (Oblockpa).
Maybe being late to the game, I'm misreading this, but it seems to me our SECOND TEAM would be higher ranked on potential than most of the talent here the decade before the coaching change: 2nd string Point Guard who was Scout.Com's #41 recruit (Jamal). 2nd string SG who was a borderline top 100 player and a 2 year starter at D! (Phil). A 2nd string PF who was a JC All American (Sanchez). A 2nd string Post who was a JC All American who's already put up a 10/6 season in the big East (Gift). Two pure shooters at the SF/SF spots in Bourgalt and Hooper. A potentially outstanding sleeper at the 2/3 in Balamou. And an intriguing athletic enigma at PF in Christian Jones.
But with all that, the #17 ranking is huge - we've cracked the top 20 barrier. Next year, should we try to close in on a Diamond Stone, or an Ivan Rabb, or a Thomas Bryant, or a Jessie Govan, no one's going to laugh and say "those guys are too high ranked for St. Johns"....And more important than recruiting geeks thinking that, it'll be some of those RECRUITS taking us seriously.
It's hard to compare talent from 8 years ago coached by a complete nice person to the talent now coached by Lavin & Co. I think, and hope the difference will be Jordan. We have been waiting for a top ranked point guard to want St.John's.
Now that Harrington is gone, nothing should stand in the way of the basketball program's success. Still, whether it's my place to or not, I urge all of you to be patient with this player. Lopez and Hamilton went batty under the bright lights. Let's give this kid a chance to be a freshman. Hopefully, guys like Dom, Phil, Jakarr & yes, even DLo can shoulder the burden of the pressure. That's the kind of program I want for us.
-
Agree Poison. Crgreen is right though that the mindset is starting to change and we are really a far cry competitively from where we were a few years ago. Roster has a lot of talent here, and this is only the beginning. Lavin has a chance in this new Big East to set a tone and have a perennial NCAA team. He can really build his name, program and SJU. We certainly have to be patient with Rysheed. That is why we also have Branch and Greene. We have a strong stable in the backcourt. Expectations for players, coaches and fans should certainly be reasonably high this season.. Rysheed will have enough leeway with the guys there, but still has a chance to shine.
-
Agree Poison. Crgreen is right though that the mindset is starting to change and we are really a far cry competitively from where we were a few years ago. Roster has a lot of talent here, and this is only the beginning. Lavin has a chance in this new Big East to set a tone and have a perennial NCAA team. He can really build his name, program and SJU. We certainly have to be patient with Rysheed. That is why we also have Branch and Greene. We have a strong stable in the backcourt. Expectations for players, coaches and fans should certainly be reasonably high this season.. Rysheed will have enough leeway with the guys there, but still has a chance to shine.
I realize I'm a little overexcited over Rysheed. But with pretty good reason. ESPN rankings basically means Dave Telep - and I've been a big fan of Dave's and his very consistent recruiting expertise for a lot of years now. Just to give an example, his #17 in 2007 was Anthony Randolph - his one year at LSU was 15.6 pts, 8.5 rebs, before going as the #14 overall pick. In 2008 it was Iman Shumpert. He was 11 pts 5 assists as a GaTech frosh. 2009 it was Daniel Orton - a first round pick after his frosh season at Kentucky. In 2010 Dave went out on a limb - his #17 was a guy everyone else had mid-30s or worse. But this year Adriene Payne was the interior anchor for Tom Izzo's #9 Michigan State Spartans. In 2011, it was Dorian Finney-Smith, who was Virginia Tech's leading rebounder and 2nd leading scorer AND assist man as a 6'8 frosh (he sat out this past season, transferring to Florida after Seth Greenberg was fired). The 2012 #17 was Sam Dekker - Sam was the 6th man for a veteren Wisconsin team this year that finished #18 in the country - one of 4 players between 9.5 and 11.1 pts per game on an incredibly balanced squad. He WILl be a major star in the Big 10.
What I'm saying is that while I agree there's plenty of leeway to grant to Rysheed, I honestly don't think much will be needed. Folks whose opinions I trust (trust thats been EARNED over many years) tell me this kid is the "real deal". I expect him to have a major impact from the first practice forward.
-
Agree Poison. Crgreen is right though that the mindset is starting to change and we are really a far cry competitively from where we were a few years ago. Roster has a lot of talent here, and this is only the beginning. Lavin has a chance in this new Big East to set a tone and have a perennial NCAA team. He can really build his name, program and SJU. We certainly have to be patient with Rysheed. That is why we also have Branch and Greene. We have a strong stable in the backcourt. Expectations for players, coaches and fans should certainly be reasonably high this season.. Rysheed will have enough leeway with the guys there, but still has a chance to shine.
I've seen us pre season #37, and #40. 4 years ago, we were in the exact same place. The difference is that we are winning recruiting battles that Norm would lose every time, because everyone knew that there was a great chance you'd regress with him as your coach.
What should happen now is our upperclassmen need to carry this program, take us into the top 25, and prepare our younger guys for the following seasons.
-
Returning to the Louisville back court situation.............. SI.com: How good can Chris Jones, your juco guard, be?
RP: He's a great one. He's as good as I've ever recruited in terms of, he's 5-9, 5-10 built like Taquan Dean. He's a fierce competitor. Oh yeah, he's a starter. Hands down. It'll be Russ and him in the backcourt. We have two other freshmen, Terry Rozier and Anton Gill, who are just as good. I think Kevin Ware will be ready. I think.
Read More: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/college-basketball/news/20130503/louisville-rick-pitino/#ixzz2STSbdLSc (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/college-basketball/news/20130503/louisville-rick-pitino/#ixzz2STSbdLSc)
-
Alright enough Joe talk, let's keep this on Rysheed.
Still just jazzed that Lavin and SJU have landed what is now EPSN's #17 recruit in the entire 2013 class (and Rivals/Yahoo's #20), and how IMPORTANT that is going forward in recruiting. When I first started posting here 3 years ago, I preached about changing the "mindset". This was a school with 2 top 100 recruits in the previous 6 years. One that had't had a 50 recruit in a decade. Now our roster has a PG who was ESPN's #17 recruit (Rysheed). An SG who was Prepstars #28 recruit (D'Lo). An SF who was Dave Teleps #24 recruit (Sir Dom). A PF who was Teleps #31 recruit (Jakarr). A Center who was Van Colemans #50 Recruit (Oblockpa).
Maybe being late to the game, I'm misreading this, but it seems to me our SECOND TEAM would be higher ranked on potential than most of the talent here the decade before the coaching change: 2nd string Point Guard who was Scout.Com's #41 recruit (Jamal). 2nd string SG who was a borderline top 100 player and a 2 year starter at D! (Phil). A 2nd string PF who was a JC All American (Sanchez). A 2nd string Post who was a JC All American who's already put up a 10/6 season in the big East (Gift). Two pure shooters at the SF/SF spots in Bourgalt and Hooper. A potentially outstanding sleeper at the 2/3 in Balamou. And an intriguing athletic enigma at PF in Christian Jones.
But with all that, the #17 ranking is huge - we've cracked the top 20 barrier. Next year, should we try to close in on a Diamond Stone, or an Ivan Rabb, or a Thomas Bryant, or a Jessie Govan, no one's going to laugh and say "those guys are too high ranked for St. Johns"....And more important than recruiting geeks thinking that, it'll be some of those RECRUITS taking us seriously.
Rabb's from Oakland & Lavin is a bay area guy so you never know. But seriously the next step to getting the very best recruits is showing them a winning product consistently which we haven't done yet. Hopefully this year gives us some credibility in that regard. Also I agree with Poison, as talented as Jordan is he still will be freshman and will most likely have a few growing pains especially coming from a public school.
-
Not getting Rabb.
-
Not getting Rabb.
We weren't getting Jordan or Obekpa either ;)
-
Not getting Rabb.
We weren't getting Jordan or Obekpa either ;)
But we were on their lists. Not so here. Hope you are right, but we are way behind on this one. It's early I know.
-
Not getting Rabb.
We weren't getting Jordan or Obekpa either ;)
But we were on their lists. Not so here. Hope you are right, but we are way behind on this one. It's early I know.
I'm not right about this. I was just bringing up the idea that Lavin has won battles that many thought he wouldn't.
Maybe UCLA gave their former coach an assist on this one? Either way, he came from behind, and won.
-
Not getting Rabb.
We weren't getting Jordan or Obekpa either ;)
But we were on their lists. Not so here. Hope you are right, but we are way behind on this one. It's early I know.
When Lavin came on board, we weren't on the list of Garrett, Pelle, Sampson, Pointer, Greene and Harkless was committed to UConn. Within a few months, we were competing for their services. For Rabb it is extremely early to say we aren't on his list so we won't land him. That said, not sure how hard we are recruiting him if at all.
-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ipQRlz0PAew# (https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ipQRlz0PAew#)!
-
I was just joking about Rabb. If last week is any indication of the 2, Cheick Diallo might be just as good if not better.
-
“@STJCoachLavin: Congrats to Rysheed Jordan for climbing 2013 recruiting rankings. The newest member of our #Stjbb family is currently No 17 in the country.”
-
Not getting Rabb.
We weren't getting Jordan or Obekpa either ;)
But we were on their lists. Not so here. Hope you are right, but we are way behind on this one. It's early I know.
Believe it or not, this is still early. Jesse Govan's list (per SCOUT) is still just Virginia and George Mason. If we're looking at a Rysheed-like timeframe for these kids decisions, we're still talking 23 Months from now. And we certainly were'nt on D'Lo and Amir and Sir Dom's lists 23 months before THEY signed. :)
-
Not getting Rabb.
We weren't getting Jordan or Obekpa either ;)
But we were on their lists. Not so here. Hope you are right, but we are way behind on this one. It's early I know.
Believe it or not, this is still early. Jesse Govan's list (per SCOUT) is still just Virginia and George Mason. If we're looking at a Rysheed-like timeframe for these kids decisions, we're still talking 23 Months from now. And we certainly were'nt on D'Lo and Amir and Sir Dom's lists 23 months before THEY signed. :)
In my post I noted;"It's early I know". Secondly, was told we are not actively recruiting him.
-
I have friends who live in his neighborhood. If Lavin needs me, I can go over to Rabb's house late at night and hang a St. John's banner from the tree.
-
I had a dream last night and can only hope it's a premonition. We were playing Cuse in front of a sold out MSG crowd and Jordan put up 32 including a few clutch FT's at the end. When I woke up I was pissed because we won the game by 5 >:(
Oh well, guess we have to beat them in real life now.
-
When I woke up I was pissed because we won the game by 5 >:(
That's our Joe
-
When I woke up I was pissed because we won the game by 5 >:(
That's our Joe
Haha, I really meant I was pissed because it wasn't reality. I really think we are so overdue to beat Cuse...won't get a much better chance than this year.
-
#45 in the latest Scout.com rankings.
http://scouthoops.scout.com/a.z?s=75&p=9&c=4&cfg=bb&pid=88&yr=2013 (http://scouthoops.scout.com/a.z?s=75&p=9&c=4&cfg=bb&pid=88&yr=2013)
-
#45 in the latest Scout.com rankings.
http://scouthoops.scout.com/a.z?s=75&p=9&c=4&cfg=bb&pid=88&yr=2013 (http://scouthoops.scout.com/a.z?s=75&p=9&c=4&cfg=bb&pid=88&yr=2013)
Wow - if I was cynical, I'd say West Coast Bias, and "sour grapes for picking St. Johns over UCLA". Not sure when I've seen that huge a gap on a player between ESPN (#17), Rivals (#20) and Scout (#45)
Except for Actual UCLA signee Zach Lavine who Scout has #27, while ESPN has him at #50, and Rivals at #44. :)
-
I had a dream last night and can only hope it's a premonition. We were playing Cuse in front of a sold out MSG crowd and Jordan put up 32 including a few clutch FT's at the end. When I woke up I was pissed because we won the game by 5 >:(
Oh well, guess we have to beat them in real life now.
Jordan is not scoring 30 points as a freshman...just not happening. If we are in a position that he has to, we are serious trouble. If I was a betting man, I'd waiger the kid doesn't eclipse 20 more than a few times if at all.
-
I had a dream last night and can only hope it's a premonition. We were playing Cuse in front of a sold out MSG crowd and Jordan put up 32 including a few clutch FT's at the end. When I woke up I was pissed because we won the game by 5 >:(
Oh well, guess we have to beat them in real life now.
Jordan is not scoring 30 points as a freshman...just not happening. If we are in a position that he has to, we are serious trouble. If I was a betting man, I'd waiger the kid doesn't eclipse 20 more than a few times if at all.
I remember Lopez dropping 35 at the Dome his freshman year, in a loss..
-
I had a dream last night and can only hope it's a premonition. We were playing Cuse in front of a sold out MSG crowd and Jordan put up 32 including a few clutch FT's at the end. When I woke up I was pissed because we won the game by 5 >:(
Oh well, guess we have to beat them in real life now.
Jordan is not scoring 30 points as a freshman...just not happening. If we are in a position that he has to, we are serious trouble. If I was a betting man, I'd waiger the kid doesn't eclipse 20 more than a few times if at all.
FWIW - Last years ESPN top 20 Guards, scoring 20 in a game as frosh:
#20 Rodney Purvis - once, averaged 8.3 for NC State
#15 Archie Goodwin - five times, averaged 14.1 for Kentucky
#12 Rasheed Sulaiman - three times, averaged 11.6 for Duke
#11 Gary Harris - four times, averaged 12.9 for Michigan State
#10 Marcus Smart - nine times, averaged 15.4 for Oklahoma State
#2 Shabazz Muhammad - FOURTEEN times, averaged 17.9 pts for UCLA
-
Didn't some kid named Archie D. Acono torch us for 32 in his first BE game?
-
Ryan Archipelago
-
I had a dream last night and can only hope it's a premonition. We were playing Cuse in front of a sold out MSG crowd and Jordan put up 32 including a few clutch FT's at the end. When I woke up I was pissed because we won the game by 5 >:(
Oh well, guess we have to beat them in real life now.
Jordan is not scoring 30 points as a freshman...just not happening. If we are in a position that he has to, we are serious trouble. If I was a betting man, I'd waiger the kid doesn't eclipse 20 more than a few times if at all.
FWIW - Last years ESPN top 20 Guards, scoring 20 in a game as frosh:
#20 Rodney Purvis - once, averaged 8.3 for NC State
#15 Archie Goodwin - five times, averaged 14.1 for Kentucky
#12 Rasheed Sulaiman - three times, averaged 11.6 for Duke
#11 Gary Harris - four times, averaged 12.9 for Michigan State
#10 Marcus Smart - nine times, averaged 15.4 for Oklahoma State
#2 Shabazz Muhammad - FOURTEEN times, averaged 17.9 pts for UCLA
Just sharing some further research (some wingnut on the Bruin board seems to think Muhammad's contriubutions will be "easily" replaced. Right - god, I hate perceptions vs reality (he SOULD average 20, He SHOULD pull down 10 boards a game. He SHOULD deliver 8 dimes a game - all are FAR rarer than folks perceive).
Since this fit into the discussion of 20 pts from a frosh next year, this is ESPN's 2012 Top 20, their scoring averages as freshmen, and the number of times they SCORED 20 (forget AVERAGING 20!):
#20: Rodney Purvis - 8.3 pts, ONE time
#19: Danuel House - 12.6 pts, six times
#18: Glenn Robinson III - 11.0 pts, three times
#17: Sam Dekker - 9.6 pts, ZERO times
#16: Brandon Ashley - 7.5 pts, one time
#15: Archie Goodwin - 14.1 pts, five times
#14: Dajuan Coleman - 4.8 pts, ZERO times
#13: Alex Poythress - 11.2 pts, six times
#12: Rasheed Suliamon - 11.6 pts, three times
#11: Gary Harris - 12.9 pts, four times
#10: Marcus Smart - 15.4 pts, Nine Times
#9: Grant Jerrett - 5.2 pts, ZERO times
#8: Cameron Ridley - 4.1 pts, ZERO times
#7: Anthonyu Bennett - 16.1 pts, Thirteen Times
#6: Steven Adams - 7.2 pts, ZERO times
#5: Kyle Anderson - 9.7 pts, two times
#4: Kaleb Tarczewski - 6.6 pts, ZERO times
#3: Isiah Austin - 13.0 pts, four times
#2: Shabazz Muhammad - 17.9 pts, 14 times (both led all true frosh)
#1: Nerlens Noel - 10.5 pts, ZERO times.
-
I had a dream last night and can only hope it's a premonition. We were playing Cuse in front of a sold out MSG crowd and Jordan put up 32 including a few clutch FT's at the end. When I woke up I was pissed because we won the game by 5 >:(
Oh well, guess we have to beat them in real life now.
Jordan is not scoring 30 points as a freshman...just not happening. If we are in a position that he has to, we are serious trouble. If I was a betting man, I'd waiger the kid doesn't eclipse 20 more than a few times if at all.
I remember Lopez dropping 35 at the Dome his freshman year, in a loss..
No disrespect to Jordan, but Lopez was the #1 recruit in the country, a future NBA first-rounder, and he was already a man at that point. His head was not too far from his ceiling. He also played for a poor team and was the man. We already have a Batman, D'Angelo Harrison.
We don't need gaudy #'s from him to be very good. I just want him to play heady ball, play tough defense, and get in the lane consistently.
-
I had a dream last night and can only hope it's a premonition. We were playing Cuse in front of a sold out MSG crowd and Jordan put up 32 including a few clutch FT's at the end. When I woke up I was pissed because we won the game by 5 >:(
Oh well, guess we have to beat them in real life now.
Jordan is not scoring 30 points as a freshman...just not happening. If we are in a position that he has to, we are serious trouble. If I was a betting man, I'd waiger the kid doesn't eclipse 20 more than a few times if at all.
I remember Lopez dropping 35 at the Dome his freshman year, in a loss..
No disrespect to Jordan, but Lopez was the #1 recruit in the country, a future NBA first-rounder, and he was already a man at that point. His head was not too far from his ceiling. He also played for a poor team and was the man. We already have a Batman, D'Angelo Harrison.
We don't need gaudy #'s from him to be very good. I just want him to play heady ball, play tough defense, and get in the lane consistently.
I hear you and agree. I do think he is capable of scoring 25-30 on a night where things are going his way. Actually, despite our offensive offense at times, coming into the season we will have 3 guys, IMO, that are capable of dropping 25-30 in a game.. Harrison, Sampson, and (potentially) Jordan. Not saying it will happen, but it's possible.
-
Didn't realize Sheed knows guys like Dion Waiters, Malik Wayns, Scoop Jardine, etc. Supposedly he hoops with them...not a bad group to get tips from IMO!
Also, new vid from a few days ago. Not a highlight vid, just Sheed showing where he's from and you get to know the kid a little better. Really seems like a great kid. I love how he shouted out St. Johns, Steve Lavin, and Tony Chiles LOL. That's right Sheed...get those SJ promotions cooking in Philly for the next recruits! :D
Started From The Bottom - Rysheed Jordan (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_BBAZ1n0YQ#ws)
-
Didn't realize Sheed knows guys like Dion Waiters, Malik Wayns, Scoop Jardine, etc. Supposedly he hoops with them...not a bad group to get tips from IMO!
Also, new vid from a few days ago. Not a highlight vid, just Sheed showing where he's from and you get to know the kid a little better. Really seems like a great kid. I love how he shouted out St. Johns, Steve Lavin, and Tony Chiles LOL. That's right Sheed...get those SJ promotions cooking in Philly for the next recruits! :D
Started From The Bottom - Rysheed Jordan (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_BBAZ1n0YQ#ws)
SMH at the video....
-
I had a dream last night and can only hope it's a premonition. We were playing Cuse in front of a sold out MSG crowd and Jordan put up 32 including a few clutch FT's at the end. When I woke up I was pissed because we won the game by 5 >:(
Oh well, guess we have to beat them in real life now.
Jordan is not scoring 30 points as a freshman...just not happening. If we are in a position that he has to, we are serious trouble. If I was a betting man, I'd waiger the kid doesn't eclipse 20 more than a few times if at all.
I remember Lopez dropping 35 at the Dome his freshman year, in a loss..
No disrespect to Jordan, but Lopez was the #1 recruit in the country, a future NBA first-rounder, and he was already a man at that point. His head was not too far from his ceiling. He also played for a poor team and was the man. We already have a Batman, D'Angelo Harrison.
We don't need gaudy #'s from him to be very good. I just want him to play heady ball, play tough defense, and get in the lane consistently.
Lopez had NBA/top ranked talent (top 100) on his team that neither he nor Hamilton were willing to work with. James Scott, Roshawn McCloud, Charles Minlend, and Rowan Barrett were left out in the cold while Lopez and Hamilton played the role of saviors.
It's not about how much the new guys score. It is only about how they help us gel as a team. There is no worse example of that than the 94-95 season. What a waste it was.
If Jordan can run the offense, I don't care if he scores 8 ppg, as long as we win.
-
And we're supposed to be impressed with this vid?
Didn't realize Sheed knows guys like Dion Waiters, Malik Wayns, Scoop Jardine, etc. Supposedly he hoops with them...not a bad group to get tips from IMO!
Also, new vid from a few days ago. Not a highlight vid, just Sheed showing where he's from and you get to know the kid a little better. Really seems like a great kid. I love how he shouted out St. Johns, Steve Lavin, and Tony Chiles LOL. That's right Sheed...get those SJ promotions cooking in Philly for the next recruits! :D
Started From The Bottom - Rysheed Jordan (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_BBAZ1n0YQ#ws)
-
And we're supposed to be impressed with this vid?
Didn't realize Sheed knows guys like Dion Waiters, Malik Wayns, Scoop Jardine, etc. Supposedly he hoops with them...not a bad group to get tips from IMO!
Also, new vid from a few days ago. Not a highlight vid, just Sheed showing where he's from and you get to know the kid a little better. Really seems like a great kid. I love how he shouted out St. Johns, Steve Lavin, and Tony Chiles LOL. That's right Sheed...get those SJ promotions cooking in Philly for the next recruits! :D
Started From The Bottom - Rysheed Jordan (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_BBAZ1n0YQ#ws)
Don't see anywhere he said you should be impressed. Just a video that shows more about him and where he's from. Hopefully more highlight videos come out after his charity game.
-
Parade All America team annunced this weekend. Congratulations to Rysheed Jordan for making the list!
http://www.parade.com/14852/brianmclaughlin/meet-parades-2013-all-america-basketball-teams/ (http://www.parade.com/14852/brianmclaughlin/meet-parades-2013-all-america-basketball-teams/)
The 2013 All-America High School Basketball Teams
Boys Team
Name Pos. High School Ht. College*
A.J. Jacobson F Shanley (Fargo, N.D.) 6-6 North Dakota St.
Aaron Gordon F Archbishop Mitty (San Jose, Calif.) 6-8 Arizona
Aaron Harrison G Travis (Richmond, Texas) 6-5 Kentucky
Anders Broman G Lakeview Christian Academy (Duluth, Minn.) 6-1 South Dakota St.
Andrew Wiggins F Huntington Prep (Huntington, W.V.) 6-8 Kansas
Austin Nichols F Briarcrest Christian (Eads, Tenn.) 6-8 Memphis
Bobby Portis F Hall (Little Rock, Ark.) 6-10 Arkansas
Brannen Greene G Tift County (Tifton, Ga.) 6-7 Kansas
Bryce Alford G La Cueva (Albuquerque, N.M.) 6-3 UCLA
Chris Walker F Holmes County (Bonifay, Fla.) 6-9 Florida
Conner Frankamp G North (Wichita, Kan.) 6-1 Kansas
Cullen Neal G Eldorado (Albuquerque, N.M.) 6-4 New Mexico
Derrick Walton Jr. G Chandler Park Academy (Harper Woods, Mich.) 6-1 Michigan
De’Runnya Wilson F Wenonah (Birmingham, Ala.) 6-6 Mississippi State
Dominique Hawkins G Madison Central (Richmond, Ky.) 6-1 Kentucky
Garet Beal F Jonesport-Beals (Jonesport, Maine) 6-6 Maine
Isaiah Hicks F J.F. Webb (Oxford, N.C.) 6-8 North Carolina
Jabari Parker F Simeon (Chicago, Ill.) 6-8 Duke
James Young G Rochester (Rochester Hills, Mich.) 6-6 Kentucky
Jarell Martin F Madison Prep Academy (Baton Rouge, La.) 6-8 LSU
Jon Severe G Christ The King (Queens, N.Y.) 6-2 Fordham
Luke Fischer C Germantown (Wis.) 6-10 Indiana
Mamadou Ndiaye C Brethren Christian (Huntington Beach, Calif.) 7-5 Cal-Irvine
Marc Loving F St. John’s (Toledo, Ohio) 6-8 Ohio State
Marcus Allen G Centennial (Las Vegas, Nev.) 6-4 Stanford
Marcus Foster G Hirschi (Wichita Falls (Texas) 6-2 Kansas State
Marcus Lee F Deer Valley (Antioch, Calif.) 6-9 Kentucky
Monte Morris G Beecher (Flint, Mich.) 6-1 Iowa State
Nick King F Memphis East (Memphis, Tenn.) 6-7 Memphis
Nigel Williams-Goss G Findlay Prep (Henderson, Nev.) 6-3 Washington
Peter Jok F Valley (West Des Moines, Iowa) 6-6 Iowa
Ricky Seals-Jones F Sealy (Texas) 6-5 Texas A&M
Roschon Prince G Poly (Long Beach, Cali.) 6-5 USC
Rysheed Jordan G Vaux (Philadelphia) 6-3 St. John’s
Semi Ojeleye F Ottawa (Kan.) 6-6 Duke
Steve Vasturia G St. Joseph’s (Philadelphia, Pa.) 6-5 Notre Dame
Stevie Clark G Douglass (Oklahoma City) 5-10 Oklahoma State
Tyler Ennis G St. Benedict’s Prep (Newark, N.J.) 6-2 Syracuse
Zach LaVine G Bothell (Wash.) 6-4 UCLA
Zak Irvin G Hamilton Southeastern (Fishers, Ind.) 6-6 Michigan
*College selections are subject to change.
-
Jon Severe on the list. No Andrew Harrison.
-
Jon Severe on the list. No Andrew Harrison.
Parade tends to be more of an ACTUAL High School All America list. Most of these top 100 or to 50 lists have evoloved into "Best prospects for the Next Level" - and that can be a very different thing. Imagine - a High School Honor that is actually honoring HIGH SCHOOL ACCOMPLISHMENT, rather than future potential of Pituitary output and genetic fast-twitch muscle response....
-
Jon Severe on the list. No Andrew Harrison.
Parade tends to be more of an ACTUAL High School All America list. Most of these top 100 or to 50 lists have evoloved into "Best prospects for the Next Level" - and that can be a very different thing. Imagine - a High School Honor that is actually honoring HIGH SCHOOL ACCOMPLISHMENT, rather than future potential of Pituitary output and genetic fast-twitch muscle response....
If production alone was an appropriate criteria for All America lists then Momo and his 23ppg would be first team all american, and Victor Oladipo wouldn't even be a candidate.
There are separate lists that celebrate guys with the most points, rebounds, assists, etc
All American status is about more than that.
Production needs to be weighed heavily obviously, but observable talent must be a factor as well.
-
Jon Severe on the list. No Andrew Harrison.
Parade tends to be more of an ACTUAL High School All America list. Most of these top 100 or to 50 lists have evoloved into "Best prospects for the Next Level" - and that can be a very different thing. Imagine - a High School Honor that is actually honoring HIGH SCHOOL ACCOMPLISHMENT, rather than future potential of Pituitary output and genetic fast-twitch muscle response....
If production alone was an appropriate criteria for All America lists then Momo and his 23ppg would be first team all american, and Victor Oladipo wouldn't even be a candidate.
There are separate lists that celebrate guys with the most points, rebounds, assists, etc
All American status is about more than that.
Production needs to be weighed heavily obviously, but observable talent must be a factor as well.
Not necessarily 1st team, but yes - on a 40 man all america (1st team thru 8th) list, a 23 pt a game guard who also led his 20 win D-1 team in assists would certainly make the cut.
-
So wait, Andrew Harrison isn't deserving of this honor? I assumed he had top 10 talent and statistics judging from all the accolades, but Parade makes it seem as if he's just another much less talented twin riding on his brother's coat tails.
-
So wait, Andrew Harrison isn't deserving of this honor? I assumed he had top 10 talent and statistics judging from all the accolades, but Parade makes it seem as if he's just another much less talented twin riding on his brother's coat tails.
Again, Parade's award is for what you've done in high school, not what you project to do in college. Andrew is a terriffic prospect, but he produced only 12 pts and 6 assists a game. Of course a Stevie Clark with 31 pts and 13 assissts a game, a Bryce Alford with 38 pts and 8 assists a game, or an Anders Broman with 42 pts and 9 assists a game (State Championship, State POY) is going to get on this list in front of him.
But can someone explain to me, how he can play with supposedly the #1 Shooting Guard in the country on his team (twin brother Aaron), and only get 6 assists a game?
-
I thought the pg was the better player?
-
I thought the pg was the better player?
Asked around - cause looking at the high school numbers (not just stats - team numbers, wins, production etc) don't support their Rivals/Scout/ESPN/RSCI rankings. Word I get from buds still in the scounting game is they were monsters in AAU ball. Parade doesn't give a flying fig about AAU. It's about High School Scholastic/Athletic achievement.
-
Just checked. Aaron is the SG
-
This is an exclusive to these (JJ & Redmen) message boards only:
Rysheed will be playing in the Mary Kline Classic on Sunday June 2nd at Philadelphia University in the Senior All-Star Game. His addition to the roster will be formally announced next week, but Alex Kline (the organizer of the event) wanted me to get it out there for you guys first. In addition to Rysheed, we have underclassmen recruits Isaiah Whitehead, Jared Terrell and Cheick Diallo playing. It's a great event that benefits cancer research and there is some really good talent in the Underclassmen and Senior games. More info, including rosters, are here:
http://maryklineclassic.com/ (http://maryklineclassic.com/)
-
This is an exclusive to these (JJ & Redmen) message boards only:
Rysheed will be playing in the Mary Kline Classic on Sunday June 2nd at Philadelphia University in the Senior All-Star Game. His addition to the roster will be formally announced next week, but Alex Kline (the organizer of the event) wanted me to get it out there for you guys first. In addition to Rysheed, we have underclassmen recruits Isaiah Whitehead, Jared Terrell and Cheick Diallo playing. It's a great event that benefits cancer research and there is some really good talent in the Underclassmen and Senior games. More info, including rosters, are here:
http://maryklineclassic.com/ (http://maryklineclassic.com/)
Hope Rysheed, Diallo and Whitehead are on the same squad. Let them get a feel for what COULD be! :)
-
So wait, Andrew Harrison isn't deserving of this honor? I assumed he had top 10 talent and statistics judging from all the accolades, but Parade makes it seem as if he's just another much less talented twin riding on his brother's coat tails.
Again, Parade's award is for what you've done in high school, not what you project to do in college. Andrew is a terriffic prospect, but he produced only 12 pts and 6 assists a game. Of course a Stevie Clark with 31 pts and 13 assissts a game, a Bryce Alford with 38 pts and 8 assists a game, or an Anders Broman with 42 pts and 9 assists a game (State Championship, State POY) is going to get on this list in front of him.
But can someone explain to me, how he can play with supposedly the #1 Shooting Guard in the country on his team (twin brother Aaron), and only get 6 assists a game?
Well, there you go. I figured he was averaging about 25 a game to be so highly ranked. He deserves to be left off list with those numbers.
-
So wait, Andrew Harrison isn't deserving of this honor? I assumed he had top 10 talent and statistics judging from all the accolades, but Parade makes it seem as if he's just another much less talented twin riding on his brother's coat tails.
Again, Parade's award is for what you've done in high school, not what you project to do in college. Andrew is a terriffic prospect, but he produced only 12 pts and 6 assists a game. Of course a Stevie Clark with 31 pts and 13 assissts a game, a Bryce Alford with 38 pts and 8 assists a game, or an Anders Broman with 42 pts and 9 assists a game (State Championship, State POY) is going to get on this list in front of him.
But can someone explain to me, how he can play with supposedly the #1 Shooting Guard in the country on his team (twin brother Aaron), and only get 6 assists a game?
Well, there you go. I figured he was averaging about 25 a game to be so highly ranked. He deserves to be left off list with those numbers.
Last post in this thread on the Harrison Bros - this IS Rysheeds thread! :) But do want to point out....
So glad this isn't a Bruin board, where I'd have to be explaining to multiple irate posters that this doesn't mean I'm denigrating the Harrisons - I have no DOUBT they deserve their high rankings ON THE COLLEGE PROSPECT TOP 100 LISTS (Rivals/Scout/ESPN/RSCI, etc.). But Parade is an All America selection - and the two are separate animals. Like college All America Teams are a different list than NBA Draft prospects, where you'll find guys like Steven Adams, with his 7 pts and 5 rebs in the top 10 this year, or Andre Drummond last year - guys who are lotto as prospects, but a couple years of college competition away from being All Americans.....
-
Rysheed comes in at #26 for RSCI compilation of rankings. Jermaine is at #25.
https://sites.google.com/site/rscihoops/home/2013-final
-
Rysheed comes in at #26 for RSCI compilation of rankings. Jermaine is at #25.
https://sites.google.com/site/rscihoops/home/2013-final
What is it with SCOUT and point guards. They've got both Rysheed and McD AA Nigel Willams-Goss 20-30 spots lower than everyone else....
-
Does anyone know if Rysheed has been cleared already and if he is going to be attending the first session of summer classes..?
-
Coming early July
-
Coming early July
And with a PG rating! :) ;)
-
“@sheedjordan: ST JOHNS BOUND!!!!”
“@sheedjordan: @philgreene31 I will be on campus July 5 th for good bro”
-
“@sheedjordan: ST JOHNS BOUND!!!!”
“@sheedjordan: @philgreene31 I will be on campus July 5 th for good bro”
He is going to visit in June a few times and then as he states officially enroll for the 2nd summer session which runs July 11th to August 14th.
Then I think right after that is when they go on their Europe trip.
-
Is their any way to watch Europe games this summer
Would be good PR
For next season!
Hammer to rock Lavs! :P
-
Kline Rosters with lots of StJ recruits in Underclassman group as well.
“@CerasolisGhost: Seton Hall commit @JarenSina is playing in the @MKC2K13 on Sunday in Philly. Fantastic cause & event: http://maryklineclassic.com/senior-roster/ (http://maryklineclassic.com/senior-roster/) #shbb”
-
Kline Rosters with lots of StJ recruits in Underclassman group as well.
“@CerasolisGhost: Seton Hall commit @JarenSina is playing in the @MKC2K13 on Sunday in Philly. Fantastic cause & event: http://maryklineclassic.com/senior-roster/ (http://maryklineclassic.com/senior-roster/) #shbb”
Hope there's a stream of the game. Obviously anxious to see Ryseed play. But also have a morbid curiosity in seeing Canadian wing Mikyle McIntosh. Looked like he was going to commit to Ben Howland's Bruins - but Steve Alford backed off the recruitment when he took over. Secretly hoping this is going to be a "glad we didn't get him Remi Berry" kind of thing. :)
-
Reminder that the Mary Kline Classic is on Sunday in Philly. Rysheed & a number of our underclassmen targets are playing. Is anyone else from here going??
-
“@AdamZagoria: Jordan Envisioning NBA After St. John’s http://zagsblog.com/articles/jordan-envisioning-nba-after-st-johns/ (http://zagsblog.com/articles/jordan-envisioning-nba-after-st-johns/) @sheedjordan #stjbb”
-
“@AdamZagoria: Jordan Envisioning NBA After St. John’s http://zagsblog.com/articles/jordan-envisioning-nba-after-st-johns/ (http://zagsblog.com/articles/jordan-envisioning-nba-after-st-johns/) @sheedjordan #stjbb”
If Rysheed is that good this year, then we will be amazing as a team.
-
“@ECoastBias: Looking ahead: Rysheed Jordan's role for the Johnnies #stjbb http://sbn.to/1aWy2YC (http://sbn.to/1aWy2YC)
Key;
"But with two ball-dominant guards, how will ball-dominant Phil Greene IV fit? And how will point guard Jamal Branch - who struggled at times, but had some sharp games - make an impact?
The summer will start to tell a tale of either depth or discord. Can a creative talent - a player like Rysheed Jordan who can get his shot - make the Johnnies a deadlier scoring squad? Can the four guards form into a relentless, high-pressure, constant attack?"
-
I don't look at D'lo as being "ball dominant". Sure he likes to shoot but he rarely holds on to the ball for too long and usually makes quick decisions and passes. Rysheed seems to enjoy passing just as much as scoring and I don't foresee any problem with him and Rysheed coexisting. If anything I think they will make eachother better.
-
“@AdamZagoria: Jordan Envisioning NBA After St. John’s http://zagsblog.com/articles/jordan-envisioning-nba-after-st-johns/ (http://zagsblog.com/articles/jordan-envisioning-nba-after-st-johns/) @sheedjordan #stjbb”
Was that the first mention that we'e planning 5 exhibitions on the Euro-tour? I asked the question last month, but didn't get an answer. GREAT opportunity for this team to bond. Don't mean to hijack the thread, but does anyone know the timeframe Coach Lavin has set up with Harrison regarding "working his way back to the team? Could D'lo be reinstated in time for the tour?
-
My brother and I went to the Mary Kline classic yesterday, great event, even better cause. Even got to meet Zagoria who was a cool dude and talked to us for a little . In regards to rysheed, do not be concerned about the point total(12). Sheed started but the coach used mass subs at every half quarter to make sure all the kids got equal minutes. It was obvious that made it hard for all the guards to get into a rhythm. Even so sheed's jumper looked very smooth from deep and mid range, very explosive going tithe basket, will be a stud offensively no doubt but we already knew that. My favorite part of his game was how unbelievably active he was defensively, getting out in passing lanes and just generally being a pest. Must've had at least 5 or 6 steals. Talked to a local Philly high school hopes fan who said defense will set sheed apart at next level. Loves to defend and really intense. Also sheed had some awesome passes, great court vision. Probably had 5 or 6 assists and 4 or so more that we're great looks but dropped by the guys on the other end. All in all I came away very impressed and think this kid will be an absolute stud. Saw the underclassman game as well but ill keep this post to sheed as it his thread.
-
My brother and I went to the Mary Kline classic yesterday, great event, even better cause. Even got to meet Zagoria who was a cool dude and talked to us for a little . In regards to rysheed, do not be concerned about the point total(12). Sheed started but the coach used mass subs at every half quarter to make sure all the kids got equal minutes. It was obvious that made it hard for all the guards to get into a rhythm. Even so sheed's jumper looked very smooth from deep and mid range, very explosive going tithe basket, will be a stud offensively no doubt but we already knew that. My favorite part of his game was how unbelievably active he was defensively, getting out in passing lanes and just generally being a pest. Must've had at least 5 or 6 steals. Talked to a local Philly high school hopes fan who said defense will set sheed apart at next level. Loves to defend and really intense. Also sheed had some awesome passes, great court vision. Probably had 5 or 6 assists and 4 or so more that we're great looks but dropped by the guys on the other end. All in all I came away very impressed and think this kid will be an absolute stud. Saw the underclassman game as well but ill keep this post to sheed as it his thread.
Thank you for attending and giving a good synopsis.
-
Thanks for the assessment.
-
My brother and I went to the Mary Kline classic yesterday, great event, even better cause. Even got to meet Zagoria who was a cool dude and talked to us for a little . In regards to rysheed, do not be concerned about the point total(12). Sheed started but the coach used mass subs at every half quarter to make sure all the kids got equal minutes. It was obvious that made it hard for all the guards to get into a rhythm. Even so sheed's jumper looked very smooth from deep and mid range, very explosive going tithe basket, will be a stud offensively no doubt but we already knew that. My favorite part of his game was how unbelievably active he was defensively, getting out in passing lanes and just generally being a pest. Must've had at least 5 or 6 steals. Talked to a local Philly high school hopes fan who said defense will set sheed apart at next level. Loves to defend and really intense. Also sheed had some awesome passes, great court vision. Probably had 5 or 6 assists and 4 or so more that we're great looks but dropped by the guys on the other end. All in all I came away very impressed and think this kid will be an absolute stud. Saw the underclassman game as well but ill keep this post to sheed as it his thread.
Nice recap. If you haven't already done so, I would enjoy reading your assessment of the underclassman game as well.
-
My brother and I went to the Mary Kline classic yesterday, great event, even better cause. Even got to meet Zagoria who was a cool dude and talked to us for a little . In regards to rysheed, do not be concerned about the point total(12). Sheed started but the coach used mass subs at every half quarter to make sure all the kids got equal minutes. It was obvious that made it hard for all the guards to get into a rhythm. Even so sheed's jumper looked very smooth from deep and mid range, very explosive going tithe basket, will be a stud offensively no doubt but we already knew that. My favorite part of his game was how unbelievably active he was defensively, getting out in passing lanes and just generally being a pest. Must've had at least 5 or 6 steals. Talked to a local Philly high school hopes fan who said defense will set sheed apart at next level. Loves to defend and really intense. Also sheed had some awesome passes, great court vision. Probably had 5 or 6 assists and 4 or so more that we're great looks but dropped by the guys on the other end. All in all I came away very impressed and think this kid will be an absolute stud. Saw the underclassman game as well but ill keep this post to sheed as it his thread.
Nice recap. If you haven't already done so, I would enjoy reading your assessment of the underclassman game as well.
Interesting Stat: In 8 full recruiting classes as a head coach, Steve Lavin has had FOUR conference "freshmen of the year" - Baron Davis and Jason Kapono at UCLA, and Mo Harkless and Jakarr Sampson now at St. Johns (8 full, because he got both the UCLA and St. Johns far too late to have any recruiting impact his first year at each school - and you could argue 7, as Ben Howland lost half of Lavin's 2003 signees when he took over). I'm pretty sure that 50% for a career is a pretty remarkable number. Given our lineup, Rysheed has a heckuvan opportunity to get the 5th in 9 classes and bump that to 56%....
-
...and people here still question his recruiting!
-
...and people here still question his recruiting!
Put in perspective, Mike Krzyzewski in 38 years as a head coach has had 3 conference Rookie/Frosh of the year.
Jim Boeheim has had 3 Big East Rookies of the year in 34 years. The ACC has only made the award since 1976 - in his 22 seasons in the ACC that the award was given, Dean Smith had 4.
-
...and people here still question his recruiting!
Put in perspective, Mike Krzyzewski in 38 years as a head coach has had 3 conference Rookie/Frosh of the year.
Jim Boeheim has had 3 Big East Rookies of the year in 34 years. The ACC has only made the award since 1976 - in his 22 seasons in the ACC that the award was given, Dean Smith had 4.
Say it loud, say it strong.
-
...and people here still question his recruiting!
Put in perspective, Mike Krzyzewski in 38 years as a head coach has had 3 conference Rookie/Frosh of the year.
Jim Boeheim has had 3 Big East Rookies of the year in 34 years. The ACC has only made the award since 1976 - in his 22 seasons in the ACC that the award was given, Dean Smith had 4.
I think Lavin's recruiting has been nothing short of amazing, but the question I have would be: Has Lavin had more rookie/frosh of the year due to his teams not being balanced and frosh having to take on a heavier load due to lack of roster balance in terms of upperclassmen?
Just playing devils advocate here.
-
...and people here still question his recruiting!
Put in perspective, Mike Krzyzewski in 38 years as a head coach has had 3 conference Rookie/Frosh of the year.
Jim Boeheim has had 3 Big East Rookies of the year in 34 years. The ACC has only made the award since 1976 - in his 22 seasons in the ACC that the award was given, Dean Smith had 4.
I think Lavin's recruiting has been nothing short of amazing, but the question I have would be: Has Lavin had more rookie/frosh of the year due to his teams not being balanced and frosh having to take on a heavier load due to lack of roster balance in terms of upperclassmen?
Just playing devils advocate here.
I would say the roster imbalance impacted the players minutes but they took full advantage of their opportunity to shine.
-
...and people here still question his recruiting!
Put in perspective, Mike Krzyzewski in 38 years as a head coach has had 3 conference Rookie/Frosh of the year.
Jim Boeheim has had 3 Big East Rookies of the year in 34 years. The ACC has only made the award since 1976 - in his 22 seasons in the ACC that the award was given, Dean Smith had 4.
I think Lavin's recruiting has been nothing short of amazing, but the question I have would be: Has Lavin had more rookie/frosh of the year due to his teams not being balanced and frosh having to take on a heavier load due to lack of roster balance in terms of upperclassmen?
Just playing devils advocate here.
Yes, no doubt Frosh have gotten the opportunity to play here but we have to give credit for his recruiting top players who could take advantage of the PT.
-
...and people here still question his recruiting!
Put in perspective, Mike Krzyzewski in 38 years as a head coach has had 3 conference Rookie/Frosh of the year.
Jim Boeheim has had 3 Big East Rookies of the year in 34 years. The ACC has only made the award since 1976 - in his 22 seasons in the ACC that the award was given, Dean Smith had 4.
I think Lavin's recruiting has been nothing short of amazing, but the question I have would be: Has Lavin had more rookie/frosh of the year due to his teams not being balanced and frosh having to take on a heavier load due to lack of roster balance in terms of upperclassmen?
Just playing devils advocate here.
I think it's more because Lavin ALLOWS frosh to BE "the man", if their talent warrant's it. Then it becomes "chicken or egg" - does he get "rookie of the year" caliber players because he's a great finisher in recruiting, or is he a great finisher in recruiting because he's gotten "rookies of the year"?
Again, it's coaching styles. And situations (where your team is, what's happening with OTHER teams). Without looking it up, you'd probably never GUESS who the three ACC Rookies of the Year Coach K has had. Chris Duhon, Kyle Singler and...Austin Rivers. Heck, you'd probably only get half of Dean Smith's 4 correct: Sam Perkins, Michael Jordaon...and JR Reid and Ed Cota.
Is getting your frosh to win those awards a good or bad sign? The coach with the most conference newcomers of the year (as far as I've been able to find) is Bobby Knight, with 9 at Indiana. And he did okay. :)
-
PMG -- no doubt roster imbalance helped significantly. At Cuse or Duke (the two coaches compared above), many talented freshman have to wait their turn. With that said, it does speak to the qualify of recruits Lavin brought in, because a lot of guys wouldn't have necessarily excelled at a ROY level with increased playing time.
-
You could look at this another way; one of the reasons coach is a great recruiter is because he promises very talented HS kids that they'll start right away and get all the opportunity in the world. He follows through on those promises. Those kids then get awards and often get drafted early, which... makes him an even better recruiter. It's a pretty effective cycle. And I don't have a problem with it.
We all know how well Lou's aversion to playing freshmen worked out at times. Nobody wants to think that kids are promised a starting role; but if that's what you've gotta do to be a competitive recruiter... go for it. There are a lot sketchier ways to recruit than promising minutes.
-
...and people here still question his recruiting!
Put in perspective, Mike Krzyzewski in 38 years as a head coach has had 3 conference Rookie/Frosh of the year.
Jim Boeheim has had 3 Big East Rookies of the year in 34 years. The ACC has only made the award since 1976 - in his 22 seasons in the ACC that the award was given, Dean Smith had 4.
I think Lavin's recruiting has been nothing short of amazing, but the question I have would be: Has Lavin had more rookie/frosh of the year due to his teams not being balanced and frosh having to take on a heavier load due to lack of roster balance in terms of upperclassmen?
Just playing devils advocate here.
I would say the roster imbalance impacted the players minutes but they took full advantage of their opportunity to shine.
I'd say yes and no. When Baron Davis won, he ws joining a team coming off an Elite 8 Season, that returned future NBA'rs Toby Bailey, JR Henderson and Jelani McCoy; Pac 10 leading scorer Kris Johnson, and future Globetrotter star "Special K" - Kevin Daley. And his incoming class included fellow frosh starter Earl Watson.
Jason Kapono came onto a team that retained future NBArs Earl Watson, Dan Gadzuric, Matt Barnes, Jerome Moiso, all Pac 10 Billy Knight, plus former McDs Ray Young & JaRon Rush - and Rico Hines.
So, it's been 50/50 re: balanced/inbalanced squads producing conference ROYs.
But curious - SHOULD Rysheed repeat the feat - becoming the "tie-breaker" - which category would it fit? He's coming onto a team that's returning a jr. two year starter at PG, and has a Jr. former top 50 recruit also at PG - a team for which we were wondering as he was being recruited, where would we find a Scholarship to GIVE him?
-
"The league will get its unofficial start on Friday, July 21 at 8pm with the annual Chosen Game, featuring 16 top players who will play in the league. This year’s rosters are again stacked with talent as the city’s graduating seniors look to remind the underclassmen who’s best before they head off to college.
The Class of 2013 is led by (who else?) St. John’s commit and Vaux grad Rysheed Jordan as well as Imhotep’s Brandon Austin, headed off to Providence. Miles Overton (Wake Forest) and B.J. Johnson (Syracuse) complete the high-major quartet, but they’ll face some stiff opposition on the underclassman squad."
“@jmverlin: The 2013 Chosen Game rosters and Chosen League schedule are out: http://cityofbasketballlove.com/2013/06/2013-chosen-game-rosters-league-schedule-released/ (http://cityofbasketballlove.com/2013/06/2013-chosen-game-rosters-league-schedule-released/) @RTChosenleague @HPWARRIORS @PhillyThreat”
-
hilites from the Donfrio classic. Jordan had 48 in losing effort. Finishes well and some nice passing....2013 Donofrio Classic Official Highlights (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDMzmEIauRw#ws)
-
hilites from the Donfrio classic. Jordan had 48 in losing effort. Finishes well and some nice passing....2013 Donofrio Classic Official Highlights (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDMzmEIauRw#ws)
Kid certainly has no problem finishing thru contact. Have to wait to see how the "new Big East" shakes out, but in the OLD Big East, I'd be worrying about the hard fouls he'd end up taking! :)
-
hilites from the Donfrio classic. Jordan had 48 in losing effort. Finishes well and some nice passing....2013 Donofrio Classic Official Highlights (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDMzmEIauRw#ws)
Kid certainly has no problem finishing thru contact. Have to wait to see how the "new Big East" shakes out, but in the OLD Big East, I'd be worrying about the hard fouls he'd end up taking! :)
Not only is Rysheed tremendous at getting to the hoop but is a tremendous passer and can stick the outside shot. Big, fast and athletic. Rysheed is exactly what this team needed to get to the next level and make everybody better.
-
Some real nice things going on in that video. Looks like the real deal. Great passer, finisher, and can stroke the pull up J.
-
great pic. very cool to see his family so excited about St. John's
https://twitter.com/sheedjordan/status/351361656703549441/photo/1
-
great pic. very cool to see his family so excited about St. John's
https://twitter.com/sheedjordan/status/351361656703549441/photo/1
that's awesome to see
-
great pic. very cool to see his family so excited about St. John's
https://twitter.com/sheedjordan/status/351361656703549441/photo/1
that's awesome to see
Agree, great pic. Great to see.
-
great pic. very cool to see his family so excited about St. John's
https://twitter.com/sheedjordan/status/351361656703549441/photo/1
all in
-
Rough looking neighborhood
-
That's great. I didn't know that many St. John's shirts even existed.
-
That's great. I didn't know that many St. John's shirts even existed.
That's why Joe3 can't find any online.
-
Rough looking neighborhood
Welcome to Philly.
-
Rough looking neighborhood
Welcome to Philly.
Reminds me on 1970's Williamsburg before we moved to Queens
-
great pic. very cool to see his family so excited about St. John's
https://twitter.com/sheedjordan/status/351361656703549441/photo/1
They make up like 50% of our fan base :)
Really cool pic tho
-
great pic. very cool to see his family so excited about St. John's
https://twitter.com/sheedjordan/status/351361656703549441/photo/1
They make up like 50% of our fan base :)
Really cool pic tho
Man, those 5 faces in the middle of the front row are the epitome of why getting Rysheed is such a big deal for St. Johns FUTURE (beyond his playing days here). Somewhere in my mom's things there's a similar picture of me from 1953 with a UCLA T-Shirt - and look what THAT led to!
-
great pic. very cool to see his family so excited about St. John's
https://twitter.com/sheedjordan/status/351361656703549441/photo/1
They make up like 50% of our fan base :)
Really cool pic tho
Man, those 5 faces in the middle of the front row are the epitome of why getting Rysheed is such a big deal for St. Johns FUTURE (beyond his playing days here). Somewhere in my mom's things there's a similar picture of me from 1953 with a UCLA T-Shirt - and look what THAT led to!
Yup. Def a future Johnnie alumn somewhere among the younger ones in that pic. Perhaps even a future member of the basketball team.
-
The neighborhood is what many of these kids grow up in. Ny has plenty of em too. I worked for quite a few years at St. Mary's Hospital in Bed Stuy, which was on Prospect place between Buffalo avenue and Rochester. Difficult neighborhood to say the least. Was one of my favorite places to work, but I was even chased by wild dogs going to my car and quite a few doctors were shot in the parking lot in their time there. No silver spoons for Rysheed.
North Philly isn't known as the best place around. Probably one of the reasons he'd like to get a break from it. I hope he finds his niche at SJU. He should be very comfortable on a campus with tons of urban kids, many of whom come from similar backgrounds.
-
Rough looking neighborhood
Welcome to Philly.
Reminds me on 1970's Williamsburg before we moved to Queens
It also looks like West Oakland.
-
The neighborhood is what many of these kids grow up in. Ny has plenty of em too. I worked for quite a few years at St. Mary's Hospital in Bed Stuy, which was on Prospect place between Buffalo avenue and Rochester. Difficult neighborhood to say the least. Was one of my favorite places to work, but I was even chased by wild dogs going to my car
I gotta admit that this cracked me up for some reason
-
The neighborhood is what many of these kids grow up in. Ny has plenty of em too. I worked for quite a few years at St. Mary's Hospital in Bed Stuy, which was on Prospect place between Buffalo avenue and Rochester. Difficult neighborhood to say the least. Was one of my favorite places to work, but I was even chased by wild dogs going to my car
I gotta admit that this cracked me up for some reason
Never carry pork chops in your back pocket.
-
The neighborhood is what many of these kids grow up in. Ny has plenty of em too. I worked for quite a few years at St. Mary's Hospital in Bed Stuy, which was on Prospect place between Buffalo avenue and Rochester. Difficult neighborhood to say the least. Was one of my favorite places to work, but I was even chased by wild dogs going to my car
I gotta admit that this cracked me up for some reason
Everybody I tell it to thinks it is funny. Wasn't funny to have 10+ dogs chase me on to roof of an SUV one night back then though. Now looking back, it does sound funny but others can tell you of the packs of stray dogs that roam those areas of Brooklyn. Somehow I spooked them on the way to my car.
-
The neighborhood is what many of these kids grow up in. Ny has plenty of em too. I worked for quite a few years at St. Mary's Hospital in Bed Stuy, which was on Prospect place between Buffalo avenue and Rochester. Difficult neighborhood to say the least. Was one of my favorite places to work, but I was even chased by wild dogs going to my car
I gotta admit that this cracked me up for some reason
Everybody I tell it to thinks it is funny. Wasn't funny to have 10+ dogs chase me on to roof of an SUV one night back then though. Now looking back, it does sound funny but others can tell you of the packs of stray dogs that roam those areas of Brooklyn. Somehow I spooked them on the way to my car.
Didnt think it could happen but now your story just got even funnier. lol
-
Rysheed's tweet. Looking to spend no more then 1 or 2 years in college. Very confident kid. Hopefully SJU gets 2 years out of him. Could be 2 deep runs in the NCAA's with this kid.
The Prince @sheedjordan 3h
my dream is to do 1 year or 2 years in college #somethingiwillwordfor
https://twitter.com/sheedjordan
-
Most players in the Top 50 of the rankings probably envision themselves not sticking around for too long.
-
Most players in the Top 50 of the rankings probably envision themselves not sticking around for too long.
Don't think that's necessarily true. But for kids in the top TWENTY, like Rysheed, it most certainly is - with very good reason if you check the draft records against the RSCI top 20 lists going back.
-
2 seasons will be fine with me
-
2 seasons will be fine with me
Or 1 with Whitehead replacing :)
-
Moose, that would be fine too
-
In this case, I would think a Rysheed one and done would help our program immensely.
The Harkless pick both hurt and helped the program, just due to it leaving us shorthanded, but also paved the way for Jakarr to come onboard. If Harkless stayed I doubt we would have gotten Karr.
If Rysheed goes we are still setup for success with our roster and the interest for other guards would be immense.
-
I don't know if I am talking crazy but maybe guys should play at least 1 game before declaring for the draft. Probably just me you know I am goofed up in the head. Funny like a clown here to amuse you...
-
The neighborhood is what many of these kids grow up in. Ny has plenty of em too. I worked for quite a few years at St. Mary's Hospital in Bed Stuy, which was on Prospect place between Buffalo avenue and Rochester. Difficult neighborhood to say the least. Was one of my favorite places to work, but I was even chased by wild dogs going to my car
I gotta admit that this cracked me up for some reason
Everybody I tell it to thinks it is funny. Wasn't funny to have 10+ dogs chase me on to roof of an SUV one night back then though. Now looking back, it does sound funny but others can tell you of the packs of stray dogs that roam those areas of Brooklyn. Somehow I spooked them on the way to my car.
Didnt think it could happen but now your story just got even funnier. lol
LOLOL This is killing me as well.
-
The neighborhood is what many of these kids grow up in. Ny has plenty of em too. I worked for quite a few years at St. Mary's Hospital in Bed Stuy, which was on Prospect place between Buffalo avenue and Rochester. Difficult neighborhood to say the least. Was one of my favorite places to work, but I was even chased by wild dogs going to my car
I gotta admit that this cracked me up for some reason
Everybody I tell it to thinks it is funny. Wasn't funny to have 10+ dogs chase me on to roof of an SUV one night back then though. Now looking back, it does sound funny but others can tell you of the packs of stray dogs that roam those areas of Brooklyn. Somehow I spooked them on the way to my car.
Didnt think it could happen but now your story just got even funnier. lol
LOLOL This is killing me as well.
Like I said. 100% true story.
-
ANDREW ALBERT, Daily News Staff Writer alberta@phillynews.com POSTED: Tuesday, July 9, 2013, 3:01 AM
WHEN THE LIGHTS went on at the playground at 10th and Olney for another round of games in the Chosen League last Wednesday night, an unexpected visitor drew a crowd upon news of his participation. His flow and charisma with the ball, and without, wowed fans, and opposing players alike. Rysheed Jordan scored 26 points in his return to the Chosen League, the only time he will play in the league this summer. The star guard is headed off to spend the summer practicing with his new team, the St. John's Red Storm. He was slated to leave last week, but his departure from Philadelphia was pushed back because of the Fourth of July holiday. That gave Jordan one last opportunity to play in the Chosen League, as he did last summer, and it also served as somewhat of a reunion for him. Out of the five players on his team, three were his teammates at Robert Vaux High School. Jordan was happy to play with those old teammates one last time. "It felt good,"
Jordan said."I wasn't playing for real. I just had to break a sweat, that's all." Jordan showed why he was ranked 17th on the ESPN100 recruiting list, including being the best player in the state of Pennsylvania. He averaged 26 points per game in his senior season at Vaux, possessing a seemingly effortless game, even when he is blowing by would-be defenders and finishing in traffic. Jordan was heavily recruited by St. John's, Temple and UCLA.
While many around the city believed he would stay local and go to Temple - after all, his nickname is "The Prince of North Philly" - Jordan said he wanted the chance to leave Philadelphia, where he has lived all his life. He said UCLA was too far, making St. John's a perfect fit. The 6-4, 185-pound guard believes his game is in a good spot right now, but there is always room for improvement. "I'm working on everything," he said simply. "I think I can play good defense, and I can finish," Jordan added. "I can also pass the ball. I'm working on shooting a lot more." Jordan will have every chance to work on his skills this summer in Queens, N.Y., with St. John's head coach Steve Lavin and his staff. Jordan is the only recruit for the class of 2013, and Lavin has taken the time to motivate his incoming freshman. "We talk everyday," Jordan said about his new coach. "He sends me little quotes and videos. He sends videos of Steph Curry shooting and his ballhandling, stuff like that. He sends me a lot of guys' tapes. [Rajon] Rondo, Chris Paul, all the best point guards in the [NBA]."
Jordan is poised to make an immediate impact for the Red Storm when the season kicks off in November. With the inspiration of Lavin, and a chance to see playing time as a freshman, Jordan, a man of few words, can't wait to get to St. John's. "I'm very excited," he said.
Read more at http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/colleges/20130709_Rysheed_Jordan_draws_crowd_to_summer_league.html#ZHBIQP55tpg7yS3K.99 (http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/colleges/20130709_Rysheed_Jordan_draws_crowd_to_summer_league.html#ZHBIQP55tpg7yS3K.99)
-
“@JonRothstein: Had a Big East assistant tell me this week that Rysheed Jordan could be the "missing piece" for St. John's. Could start at PG. #stjbb”
-
“@JonRothstein: Had a Big East assistant tell me this week that Rysheed Jordan could be the "missing piece" for St. John's. Could start at PG. #stjbb”
Haha really goin out on a limb saying he 'could' start at point guard.
-
“@nybuckets: .@HudsonGiles makes his BAB debut with 9 Big East Rookies to Watch this season: http://nycbuckets.com/2013/08/nine-big-east-rookies-to-watch-in-2013-14/ (http://nycbuckets.com/2013/08/nine-big-east-rookies-to-watch-in-2013-14/)”
Rysheed Jordan, St. John’s: Despite the return of both Jamal Branch and D’Angelo Harrison (suspended from the team in early March, Harrison will accompany the squad on their mid-August overseas trip and will likely suit up for the Red Storm in 2013-14), coach Steve Lavin’s recruiting priority was a point guard. Sir’Dominic Pointer, a 6’5″ wing, was the only SJU player last season to use more than 60 percent of the team’s minutes and record an assist rate over 20 percent, and though Lavin may be loathe to entrust a freshman with distribution duties, Harrison must further his transition to a combo guard to end SJU’s offensive stagnation – the squad finished with a record above .500 but posted an in-conference offensive rating of 91.8. St. John’s needs a guard who can forego his own scoring impulses and concentrate on running the squad’s offensive gameplan. Jordan’s arrival should move Phil Greene IV to the bench, and since Lavin often allows his perimeter players freedom to display their natural attributes, the 6’3″ Jordan could thrive in a role where his propensity for north-to-south drives creates openings for his Red Storm ‘mates (and hopefully then boosts the team’s cellar-scraping assist rate).
-
“@nybuckets: .@HudsonGiles makes his BAB debut with 9 Big East Rookies to Watch this season: http://nycbuckets.com/2013/08/nine-big-east-rookies-to-watch-in-2013-14/ (http://nycbuckets.com/2013/08/nine-big-east-rookies-to-watch-in-2013-14/)”
Rysheed Jordan, St. John’s: Despite the return of both Jamal Branch and D’Angelo Harrison (suspended from the team in early March, Harrison will accompany the squad on their mid-August overseas trip and will likely suit up for the Red Storm in 2013-14), coach Steve Lavin’s recruiting priority was a point guard. Sir’Dominic Pointer, a 6’5″ wing, was the only SJU player last season to use more than 60 percent of the team’s minutes and record an assist rate over 20 percent, and though Lavin may be loathe to entrust a freshman with distribution duties, Harrison must further his transition to a combo guard to end SJU’s offensive stagnation – the squad finished with a record above .500 but posted an in-conference offensive rating of 91.8. St. John’s needs a guard who can forego his own scoring impulses and concentrate on running the squad’s offensive gameplan. Jordan’s arrival should move Phil Greene IV to the bench, and since Lavin often allows his perimeter players freedom to display their natural attributes, the 6’3″ Jordan could thrive in a role where his propensity for north-to-south drives creates openings for his Red Storm ‘mates (and hopefully then boosts the team’s cellar-scraping assist rate).
You got to think Jordan, Dee, Pointer, Sampson, and Sanchez will start with first guys off bench Obekpa, Greene, Branch. Hooper and Gift in rotation and Marco, Jones, and Felix on outside looking in.
I really hope we can redshirt Felix and/or Jones.
-
“@nybuckets: .@HudsonGiles makes his BAB debut with 9 Big East Rookies to Watch this season: http://nycbuckets.com/2013/08/nine-big-east-rookies-to-watch-in-2013-14/ (http://nycbuckets.com/2013/08/nine-big-east-rookies-to-watch-in-2013-14/)”
Rysheed Jordan, St. John’s: Despite the return of both Jamal Branch and D’Angelo Harrison (suspended from the team in early March, Harrison will accompany the squad on their mid-August overseas trip and will likely suit up for the Red Storm in 2013-14), coach Steve Lavin’s recruiting priority was a point guard. Sir’Dominic Pointer, a 6’5″ wing, was the only SJU player last season to use more than 60 percent of the team’s minutes and record an assist rate over 20 percent, and though Lavin may be loathe to entrust a freshman with distribution duties, Harrison must further his transition to a combo guard to end SJU’s offensive stagnation – the squad finished with a record above .500 but posted an in-conference offensive rating of 91.8. St. John’s needs a guard who can forego his own scoring impulses and concentrate on running the squad’s offensive gameplan. Jordan’s arrival should move Phil Greene IV to the bench, and since Lavin often allows his perimeter players freedom to display their natural attributes, the 6’3″ Jordan could thrive in a role where his propensity for north-to-south drives creates openings for his Red Storm ‘mates (and hopefully then boosts the team’s cellar-scraping assist rate).
You got to think Jordan, Dee, Pointer, Sampson, and Sanchez will start with first guys off bench Obekpa, Greene, Branch. Hooper and Gift in rotation and Marco, Jones, and Felix on outside looking in.
I really hope we can redshirt Felix and/or Jones.
Excellent suggestion Ted.
-
“@nybuckets: .@HudsonGiles makes his BAB debut with 9 Big East Rookies to Watch this season: http://nycbuckets.com/2013/08/nine-big-east-rookies-to-watch-in-2013-14/ (http://nycbuckets.com/2013/08/nine-big-east-rookies-to-watch-in-2013-14/)”
Rysheed Jordan, St. John’s: Despite the return of both Jamal Branch and D’Angelo Harrison (suspended from the team in early March, Harrison will accompany the squad on their mid-August overseas trip and will likely suit up for the Red Storm in 2013-14), coach Steve Lavin’s recruiting priority was a point guard. Sir’Dominic Pointer, a 6’5″ wing, was the only SJU player last season to use more than 60 percent of the team’s minutes and record an assist rate over 20 percent, and though Lavin may be loathe to entrust a freshman with distribution duties, Harrison must further his transition to a combo guard to end SJU’s offensive stagnation – the squad finished with a record above .500 but posted an in-conference offensive rating of 91.8. St. John’s needs a guard who can forego his own scoring impulses and concentrate on running the squad’s offensive gameplan. Jordan’s arrival should move Phil Greene IV to the bench, and since Lavin often allows his perimeter players freedom to display their natural attributes, the 6’3″ Jordan could thrive in a role where his propensity for north-to-south drives creates openings for his Red Storm ‘mates (and hopefully then boosts the team’s cellar-scraping assist rate).
You got to think Jordan, Dee, Pointer, Sampson, and Sanchez will start with first guys off bench Obekpa, Greene, Branch. Hooper and Gift in rotation and Marco, Jones, and Felix on outside looking in.
I really hope we can redshirt Felix and/or Jones.
Excellent suggestion Ted.
Won't that cut down on the ability to recruit? I guess the question is are Felix/CJ with a year off going to be better than any potetial recruit(s) from their 5 yr. class?
-
“@StJohnsBBall: Jordan: “It's been a good preseason for me but I'm a little banged up right now." #sjubb #stjbb”
“@StJohnsBBall: Jordan: "Obviously I want to be able to play, but as Coach and the staff told me it's my job to get healthy right now." #sjubb #stjbb”
-
“@StJohnsBBall: Jordan: “It's been a good preseason for me but I'm a little banged up right now." #sjubb #stjbb”
“@StJohnsBBall: Jordan: "Obviously I want to be able to play, but as Coach and the staff told me it's my job to get healthy right now." #sjubb #stjbb”
Sucks that Jordan won't be playing in Europe, but we need him healthy this season.
-
“@nybuckets: .@HudsonGiles makes his BAB debut with 9 Big East Rookies to Watch this season: http://nycbuckets.com/2013/08/nine-big-east-rookies-to-watch-in-2013-14/ (http://nycbuckets.com/2013/08/nine-big-east-rookies-to-watch-in-2013-14/)”
Rysheed Jordan, St. John’s: Despite the return of both Jamal Branch and D’Angelo Harrison (suspended from the team in early March, Harrison will accompany the squad on their mid-August overseas trip and will likely suit up for the Red Storm in 2013-14), coach Steve Lavin’s recruiting priority was a point guard. Sir’Dominic Pointer, a 6’5″ wing, was the only SJU player last season to use more than 60 percent of the team’s minutes and record an assist rate over 20 percent, and though Lavin may be loathe to entrust a freshman with distribution duties, Harrison must further his transition to a combo guard to end SJU’s offensive stagnation – the squad finished with a record above .500 but posted an in-conference offensive rating of 91.8. St. John’s needs a guard who can forego his own scoring impulses and concentrate on running the squad’s offensive gameplan. Jordan’s arrival should move Phil Greene IV to the bench, and since Lavin often allows his perimeter players freedom to display their natural attributes, the 6’3″ Jordan could thrive in a role where his propensity for north-to-south drives creates openings for his Red Storm ‘mates (and hopefully then boosts the team’s cellar-scraping assist rate).
Why in the world would Lavin be "loathe to entrust distribution duties to a freshman"????? He's only done it with Baron Davis, Earl Watson, Cedric Bozeman, and even Phil Greene....
-
Maybe he did it but in a loathsome way. ;) :)
-
When Rysheed Jordan committed to St. John's in the spring, Steve Lavin knew he was adding a dynamic point guard.
The five-star guard out of Roberts Vaux High School in Philadelphia will be the only freshman on Lavin's roster in 2013-14, but is expected to contribute immediately. Without yet having played a college game, Jordan is already making an impact in St. John's workouts.
"Rysheed is a game-changer for me because of his ability to get into the lane, making plays for myself and for others," transfer shooting specialist Max Hooper mentioned on Saturday at the Dribble for the Cure event held at St. John's. "The sky is the limit for him, and there is no limit to the impact that he can have for us."
The addition of Hooper provides St. John's with quite possibly its best perimeter shooter in over a decade, one who will greatly benefit from having a visionary guard on the floor with him. The Red Storm finished last season having converted a woeful 27% of its three-point attempts - an aspect the team must improve on to move up the Big East standings.
St. John's has worked diligently this offseason on improving its perimeter game. Returning offensive weapons and traditional basket-attackers like JaKarr Sampson and Sir`Dominic Pointer are seeking to be options from deep.
"Rysheed is going to be a great young freshman point guard," mentioned Sir'Dom Pointer. "He's already making things easier for us on the floor, as well as getting to the hoop."
Jordan joins a St. John's backcourt that already had potential in Jamal Branch, who suffered a knee sprain in February of last season that debilitated his progression as the team's point guard.
"Rysheed is a special player," said Steve Lavin on Saturday. "What is nice is that he is different [than Branch] and that they complement one another."
Known throughout his high school days as one of the quickest guards in the nation, Jordan gives the Johnnies an element that they missed a year ago. Though Branch also shares a keen ability to anticipate play development, he is more deliberate and works well working in the pick-and-roll set. Jordan, however, can blow past defenders without attracting traffic.
WHAT IS NICE IS THAT HE IS DIFFERENT [THAN BRANCH] AND THAT THEY COMPLEMENT ONE ANOTHER.
-STEVE LAVIN, ON RYSHEED JORDAN
"One thing that jumps out [about Jordan] is that he's as impressive a guy I've ever coached in space, with the ability to create off the bounce and get into the heart of the defense," Lavin continued. "Right now, I feel that [Rysheed] is better without a screen than he is with a screen. Very similar to an option quarterback, he knows when to pitch it and when to hold it. He has that gift."
Jordan possesses the ability to create for others, yet realize when something isn't developing to plan, he can finish over the top of a defender. At 6-foot-3, he utilizes his size to his advantage in a variety of ways.
But perhaps the most advantageous part of adding Jordan to the fold will be diversification of Lavin's options. With a dynamic guard and such a deep roster that can turn into 12- or even 13-man rotations, St. John's will be able to use its best players in their natural positions, which will include keeping D`Angelo Harrison off the ball.
"He and Jamal are both doing an unbelievable job," said Harrison. "It's nice for me now that I don't have to waste a lot of energy doing all of that stuff."
It is still unknown how extensive Rysheed Jordan's impact will be for St. John's as a freshman, but you can bet that it will be felt. The guard will be a key piece to the Red Storm's contention for an NCAA Tournament bid come March.
http://www.rumbleinthegarden.com/st-johns-red-storm-mens-basketball/2013/9/28/4780184/st-johns-red-storm-rysheed-jordan-point-guard-lavin (http://www.rumbleinthegarden.com/st-johns-red-storm-mens-basketball/2013/9/28/4780184/st-johns-red-storm-rysheed-jordan-point-guard-lavin)
-
“@jmverlin: A pair of Philadelphia natives, Rysheed Jordan and Brandon Austin, led the youth movement in the Big East: http://cityofbasketballlove.com/2013/10/jordan-austin-lead-youth-movement-in-big-east/ (http://cityofbasketballlove.com/2013/10/jordan-austin-lead-youth-movement-in-big-east/)”
-
http://nypost.com/2013/11/18/st-johns-upperclassmen-there-for-struggling-jordan/ (http://nypost.com/2013/11/18/st-johns-upperclassmen-there-for-struggling-jordan/)
-
http://nypost.com/2013/11/18/st-johns-upperclassmen-there-for-struggling-jordan/ (http://nypost.com/2013/11/18/st-johns-upperclassmen-there-for-struggling-jordan/)
Fwiw, Cuse's Tyler Ennis has also been pretty poor his first few games. Freshmen take some time. With Jordan, it just looks like a confidence issue to me. I think he's going to be grest when that switch goes off when he realizes he can do what he wants out there. He needs to keep getting minutes.
-
http://nypost.com/2013/11/18/st-johns-upperclassmen-there-for-struggling-jordan/ (http://nypost.com/2013/11/18/st-johns-upperclassmen-there-for-struggling-jordan/)
Fwiw, Cuse's Tyler Ennis has also been pretty poor his first few games. Freshmen take some time. With Jordan, it just looks like a confidence issue to me. I think he's going to be grest when that switch goes off when he realizes he can do what he wants out there. He needs to keep getting minutes.
[/quotehttp://nypost.com/2013/11/18/st-johns-upperclassmen-there-for-struggling-jordan/ (http://nypost.com/2013/11/18/st-johns-upperclassmen-there-for-struggling-jordan/)
Fwiw, Cuse's Tyler Ennis has also been pretty poor his first few games. Freshmen take some time. With Jordan, it just looks like a confidence issue to me. I think he's going to be grest when that switch goes off when he realizes he can do what he wants out there. He needs to keep getting minutes.
Maybe, I haven't followed him but I did see highlights of one of their games and they said he hit 4 threes.
-
http://nypost.com/2013/11/18/st-johns-upperclassmen-there-for-struggling-jordan/ (http://nypost.com/2013/11/18/st-johns-upperclassmen-there-for-struggling-jordan/)
Fwiw, Cuse's Tyler Ennis has also been pretty poor his first few games. Freshmen take some time. With Jordan, it just looks like a confidence issue to me. I think he's going to be grest when that switch goes off when he realizes he can do what he wants out there. He needs to keep getting minutes.
[/quotehttp://nypost.com/2013/11/18/st-johns-upperclassmen-there-for-struggling-jordan/ (http://nypost.com/2013/11/18/st-johns-upperclassmen-there-for-struggling-jordan/)
Fwiw, Cuse's Tyler Ennis has also been pretty poor his first few games. Freshmen take some time. With Jordan, it just looks like a confidence issue to me. I think he's going to be grest when that switch goes off when he realizes he can do what he wants out there. He needs to keep getting minutes.
Maybe, I haven't followed him but I did see highlights of one of their games and they said he hit 4 threes.
I think he's 4/10 in last 2 games. He did have a solid performance against Colgate shooting 4-6 from 3. He isnt a shooting guard though, and has struggled in other areas. Last game though, he was only 1-8 from the field and hasn't been the assist monster they were expecting. Rysheed was killing it for us in exhibition games, but has struggled the last two. I expect Rysheed to get past this without a problem.
-
http://nypost.com/2013/11/18/st-johns-upperclassmen-there-for-struggling-jordan/ (http://nypost.com/2013/11/18/st-johns-upperclassmen-there-for-struggling-jordan/)
Fwiw, Cuse's Tyler Ennis has also been pretty poor his first few games. Freshmen take some time. With Jordan, it just looks like a confidence issue to me. I think he's going to be grest when that switch goes off when he realizes he can do what he wants out there. He needs to keep getting minutes.
He's definitely struggled, but that kid is alone. He's got no Jamal Branch to step if he struggles.